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(group chatter)

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<v ->Members, I'd like to call the meeting</v>

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of the State Board of Education together.

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And first, we will have our invocation

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and Pledge of Allegiance

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by Member Perez.

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<v ->Let us pray.</v>

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Heavenly Father, we come to you today

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humbled as your servants.

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Lord, we thank you for the blessings

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you have bestowed upon our families,

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of food, shelter,

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prosperity,

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stability and love.

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We remember today the greatest commandment

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of your son, Jesus Christ,

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to love one another as He loves us.

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We pray upon your wisdom

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of the Old Testament

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that we are our brother's keeper.

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We ask you heavenly father

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to help us all

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to remember that as our brother's keeper,

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we have a responsibility to care

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for foreigners in our lands,

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to shelter the homeless,

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feed the hungry

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and give drink to those that thirst.

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Lord, we remember the wisdom that you have given us

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to forgive those with whom we quarrel.

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We thank you Lord for the gift of compromise

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that has helped us find common ground

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so that we may truly be servant leaders to our community.

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We raise up

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all members of this State Board of Education

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to you Lord,

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and call upon your divine intervention

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to remind us of God's promise of forgiveness

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and redemption.

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And finally, Lord, we ask that you grant us

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the strength and wisdom

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to forgive those that speak ill of us

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and ask your blessings for students

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going outside of our area

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to pursue higher education.

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Lord grant us the strength and wisdom

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to work together for the benefit of your children.

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In your holy name we pray,

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Amen.

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Buenos dias.

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(laughter)

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Oh, we have to do the pledge too.

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(laughter)

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(microphone cuts out)

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<v ->Okay, members, we'll ask for approval</v>

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of the minutes.

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And we'll do roll call.

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<v Woman>Ms. Perez.</v>

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<v Ms. Perez>I'm here.</v>

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<v ->Mr. Cortez.</v>

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<v Mr. Cortez>Here.</v>

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<v ->Ms. Perez Diaz.</v>

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<v ->Here.</v>

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<v ->Mr. Allen.</v>

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Mr. Mercer.

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Mr. Bradley.

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Mrs. Cargill.

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<v Mrs. Cargill>Here.</v>

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<v ->Dr. Ellis.</v>

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<v Dr. Ellis>Here.</v>

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<v ->Mr. Maynard.</v>

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<v Mr. Maynard>Here.</v>

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<v ->Ms. Hardy.</v>

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<v Ms. Hardy>Here.</v>

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<v ->Mrs. Miller.</v>

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Mrs. Beltron.

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<v Mrs. Beltron>Here.</v>

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<v ->Mrs. Melton- Malone.</v>

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<v ->[Mrs. Melton-Malone] Here.</v>

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<v ->Mr. Rowley.</v>

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<v Mr. Rowley>Here.</v>

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<v ->Mrs. Bahorich.</v>

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<v Mrs. Bahorich>Here.</v>

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<v ->Alright,</v>

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we now have our,

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if there's no,

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is there any objection to the minutes?

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Hearing none, minutes are approved.

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So the first thing we've got this morning is

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an important

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presentation to some of our

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Texas finest teachers.

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I'm gonna talk this morning first

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just to kind of give you a quick overview

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about the Milken Educator Awards.

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For 30 years, the Milken Educator Awards,

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an initiative of the Milken Family Foundation

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have rewarded and inspired excellence

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in the world of education by honoring top educators

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around the country

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with 25,000 dollars

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in unrestricted awards.

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Not an accolade for a lifetime achievement,

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or the proverbial gold watch at the exit door,

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the Milken Educator Awards

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targets early to mid career

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education professionals

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for their already impressive achievement

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and more significantly,

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for the promise of what they will accomplish in the future.

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Today we're honoring the 2017-2018

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school year awardees.

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And our first one, I'm gonna call up to the podium,

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Jennifer Fuller from Arlington Collegiate High School.

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(applause)

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Jennifer played a crucial role

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in the development of Arlington Collegiate High School,

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a unique four year old partnership

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with Terrant County College.

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Designed for students

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who would not otherwise consider attending college,

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the school provides the opportunity

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to earn a high school diploma

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and dual credit,

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up to an associates degree,

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within four years.

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Jennifer continuously

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varies her

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approach to teach the essential elements

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of English to sophomores,

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and now juniors, through group work,

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presentations,

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discussions, and extensive reading and writing.

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Her instruction prompts critical thinking

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and problem solving

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as students explore

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concepts culturally relevant to their development.

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As a result, her classes have received

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the highest end of course exam scores

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in the district for two consecutive years.

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For 2016-17,

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the school earned a 98% passing rate.

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As English department-level leader,

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Jennifer also serves as a site-based

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decision-making committee member,

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student council sponsor,

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and Early College High School Partnership

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Council school representative.

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Always seeking ways to close the achievement gap

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and make college accessible.

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Jennifer was instrumental in the success

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of the African American

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Male Initiative,

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a pilot program started with a grant

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from Abbot that continues to be successful

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on her previous campus today.

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Congratulations.

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<v ->Thank you so much.</v>

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(applause)

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<v ->Absolutely.</v>

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Stand over here for a second.

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<v ->Okay.</v>

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(applause)

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<v Member Bradley>Madam Chair,</v>

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<v ->Yes.</v>

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<v ->I'll also note her parents are here in the room</v>

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and we're very proud in the fact

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that they're from Beaumont.

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(laughter)

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But to show that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree,

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her mother is a 40 year teacher

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who is still in the classroom.

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(applause)

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<v ->Thank you, thank you for bringing that to our attention.</v>

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That's awesome.

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(laughter)

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Our next awardee is Katy Neigen.

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(applause)

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At Slayton Junior High School,

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Katy Neigen is a valuable asset

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to the leadership team,

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working hand in hand

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with fellow master and mentor teachers

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and administrators to move the whole school forward.

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Her role is made possible

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through the implementation of the TAP System

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for Teacher and Student Advancement,

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an initiative of the National Institute

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for Excellence in Teaching

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that provides opportunities for teacher leadership,

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job embedded professional learning,

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educator evaluation and performance based compensation.

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Through her guidance as a TAP master teacher,

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Katy holds weekly professional learning sessions

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aimed at improving instructional practices

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in the classroom.

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These actions have helped every student

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in Katy's teaching are to gain at least

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a year's growth,

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with single-digit gains

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in Reading, and double-digit gains

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in Science for 2016.

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Katy also recognized the need to reform

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the discipline program

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which has aided learning through positive reinforcements.

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Katy is a go-to person

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for staff on campus,

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as well as at the district level,

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where she is a member of the District Ed Council,

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Curriculum Committee,

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and Level Leadership Team for Instruction.

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Her expertise was instrumental

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in a curriculum writing initiative

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that aligned academic goals

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with state standards.

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Congratulations.

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<v ->Thank you.</v>

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(applause)

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<v ->And you have family here as well?</v>

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<v ->I do.</v>

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<v ->My mom's a teacher too.</v>

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<v ->Oh, really.</v>

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So how many years have you taught?

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<v ->22.</v>

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<v ->22 years.</v>

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Wow.

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That's amazing, congratulations.

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(applause)

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Well, congratulations to both of the families

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for being here and supporting

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these very amazing teachers.

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What I love about this award

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is it's just the,

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we're just expecting even more great thing from you guys.

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And so we're pretty excited.

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I love that this is not your

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"thank you," hand out the door

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kind of award.

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It's very exciting to see

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dedicated teachers like you in the classroom

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for our students.

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So thank you guys very much.

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And congratulations.

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(applause)

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(inaudible)

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<v ->Good morning.</v>

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I think we're gonna do the blue ribbon

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at schools.

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Members, today,

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before us is a resolution to honor

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our 2017 Blue Ribbon schools,

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Blue Ribbon School Award winners.

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We're pleased that representatives

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from so many schools are here today.

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We're gonna take it in two phases.

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We're gonna do group one and group two

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because there's so many of them.

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So if I can ask representatives from the following

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to come up to the center.

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And member, if I call out your school,

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if you can join your school in the circle.

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Group one is Banquete Elementary,

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Austin Elementary,

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Austin

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Middle,

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and Gunter Elementary.

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And so I would need

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Member Perez-Diaz,

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Member Bradley,

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Member Ellis.

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There we go, Erika.

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Do you mind?

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Okay.

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Whereas, the National Blue Ribbon Schools Program

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recognizes elementary, middle and high schools

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where students perform at very high levels;

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whereas, the National Blue Ribbon Schools flag

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overhead is a mark of excellence

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in education;

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whereas in 2017,

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Texas nominated 26 to be recognized

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for their students' achievements;

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and whereas, these 26 were then named

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2017 National Blue Ribbon Schools

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by the United States Department of Education;

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now, therefore, be it resolved

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that the State Board of Education

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does hereby extend its congratulations

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to Wittier Elementary,

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in the Amarillo Independent School District;

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to Banquete Elementary,

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in the Banquete Independent School District;

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to Smithfield Elementary,

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in the Birdsville Independent School District;

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to Barack Obama Male Leadership Academy,

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to the Dallas Environmental Science Academy,

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and to the Irma Rangel Young Women's Leadership School,

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in the Dallas Independent School District;

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and be it further resolved

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that the Texas State Board of Education

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does hereby extend its congratulations

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to Austin Elementary

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and Jefferson Elementary School

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in the Edinburg Consolidated Independent School District;

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to Greene Elementary School

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and Sylva Health Magnet

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in the El Paso Independent School District;

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to Austin Middle School

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in the Galveston Independent School District;

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and to Gunter Elementary

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in the Gunter Independent School District

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for being nominated for Texas

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and named by the United States Department of Education

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as National Blue Ribbon Schools.

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And be it further resolved

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that this resolution be presented to the principals

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of the aforementioned schools

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for being recognized

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for excellence of the National Blue Ribbon Schools Program,

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and that a copy be included in the permanent records

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of the State Board of Education.

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Congratulations.

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(applause)

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We do, we have group two.

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Congratulations recipients.

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Thank you for all the outstanding work you're doing

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in our Texas public schools.

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At this time, if I can get

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group two up.

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And we've got Crestview Elementary.

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We've got Jeannie Reed Elementary School,

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Hector J. Garcia Early College High School,

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Lions Elementary School,

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Stanton Smith Elementary School,

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RF Hartman Elementary School.

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And I will need

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Member Mercer,

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Member Cargill,

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Member Perez,

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Member Allen,

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Member Ellis,

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and Member Miller

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in the circle with their recipients.

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(group chatter)

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Alright, here we go.

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Whereas, the National Blue Ribbon Schools Program

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recognizes elementary, middle and high schools

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where students perform at very high levels;

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whereas, a National Blue Ribbon Schools flag

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overhead is a mark of excellence

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in education;

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whereas, in 2017, Texas nominated

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26 schools to be recognized

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for their students' achievements;

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and whereas, these 26 schools were then named

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2017 National Blue Ribbon Schools

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by the United States Department of Education;

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now, therefore, be it resolved

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that the Texas State Board of Education

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does hereby extend its congratulations

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to Eastwood Academy

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and Lions Elementary School

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in the Houston Independent School District;

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to Lawn Elementary School

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in the Jim Ned Consolidated Independent School District;

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to Crestview Elementary

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in the Judson Independent School District;

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to Kip Shine Prep

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of Kip Houston;

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to Jenny Reed

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Elementary School

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in the La Port Independent School District;

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to Hector J. Garcia Elementary School

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in the Laredo Independent School District;

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to Rancho Verde Elementary School

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in the Los Fresnos

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Consolidated Independent School District;

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and be it further resolved

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that the State Board of Education

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does hereby extend its congratulations

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to Montgomery Intermediate School

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in the Montgomery Independent School District;

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to Oakwood Elementary School

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in the Oakwood Independent School District;

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to Travis Early College High School

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in the San Antonio Independent School District;

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to Stanton Smith Elementary School

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in the White House Independent School District;

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to RF Hartman

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Elementary School

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in the Wiley Independent School District;

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and to Via Verde

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Early College High School

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in the East Leta

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Independent School District

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for being nominated

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by Texas

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and named by the United States Department of Education

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as National Blue Ribbon Schools.

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And be it further resolved

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that this resolution be presented

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to the principals

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of the aforementioned

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schools for being recognized for excellence

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through the National Blue Ribbon Schools Program,

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and that a copy be included

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in the permanent records

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of the State Board of Education.

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Congratulations.

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(applause)

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That's it.

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(group chatter)

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Madam Chair, I move for the adoption

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of the Blue Ribbon Schools Resolution.

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<v ->All those in favor, say aye.</v>

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<v Group>Aye.</v>

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<v ->Resolution is adopted.</v>

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<v ->I believe we have one more resolution</v>

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this morning, Madam Chair.

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So this marks the

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fourth year that the State Board recognizes students

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with the Student Heroes Award.

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This award presented to students from elementary schools

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through high school

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who provide outstanding

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charitable or volunteer work

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that benefit their classmates

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or their communities.

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One student is selected from each board district.

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Each year, we learn

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the remarkable acts of kindness

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and generosity through the nominations

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for this award.

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And this year was no exception.

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We present these awards to the students

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at their school rather than asking students to come

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to Austin to receive this award

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because we hope local recognition

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of their good deeds will inspire their classmates

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to preform their own acts of kindness.

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You'll be able to see

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these young heroes in a slide show

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that will run on TV monitors

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as I read this resolution out loud.

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Whereas, the State Board of Education's

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Heroes for Children Award

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recognizes students,

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recognizes Texas public school

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students' achievements

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who engage in unselfish acts of charity

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or service that benefit their fellow students

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or community;

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and whereas, the SBOE received nominations

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and selected 15 students across the state

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as recipients

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of the 2018 Student Heroes Award;

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and whereas,

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Mayely Carrasco,

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a sophomore at Odessa High School

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in Ector County Independent School District,

00:21:24.738 --> 00:21:27.183
provided support and encouragement

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to classmates

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with the creation of a suicide prevention

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support group;

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and whereas, Horacio-Garcia Rojas,

00:21:36.993 --> 00:21:40.459
a junior at IDEA McAllen College Preparatory School,

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has funded 23,000 free

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chemotherapy treatments

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by collecting 23 million caps

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as part of a Caps for Chemo program;

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and whereas, with a simple Christmas wish

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for a blanket for her brother,

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Crystal Pacheco,

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a first grade student at Monte Cristo Elementary

00:22:07.245 --> 00:22:09.105
in Edinburg CISD,

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became the spark that launched a blanket drive

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that raised 1500 blankets;

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whereas, Caleb Elam,

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a junior at Fir High School

00:22:21.378 --> 00:22:22.995
in Houston ISD,

00:22:22.995 --> 00:22:27.252
is involved in nearly a dozen community service projects

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that include food drives,

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mentoring, tutoring,

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and assisting non-profit organizations;

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and whereas, Samantha Sanchez,

00:22:36.411 --> 00:22:39.122
a sophomore at Ronald Reagan High School

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in the North East Independent School District,

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who was so moved

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to provide blankets to homeless children

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that she created a non-profit foundation

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called Sam's Covers

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and to date has delivered 1600 fleece blankets;

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whereas, Hannah Keller,

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a junior at Stratford High School

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in Spring Branch ISD,

00:23:06.654 --> 00:23:10.394
has found a multitude of ways to help

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and befriend refugees

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and under schooled classmates including

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creating the One World Club;

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and whereas, Callie Jourdan,

00:23:22.955 --> 00:23:26.372
a senior at Port Neches Grove High School

00:23:28.631 --> 00:23:30.162
in Port Neches ISD,

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is a Red Cross volunteer

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who exhibited leadership

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and a calm demeanor

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as she helped staff,

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as she helped a staff,

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a shelter after Hurricane Harvey hit the coast,

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and whereas, Katherine Fouch,

00:23:46.980 --> 00:23:49.429
a sixth grade student

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of Pecan Trail Intermediate School

00:23:53.710 --> 00:23:55.256
in College Station ISD,

00:23:55.256 --> 00:23:58.794
created the No One Sits Alone Initiative

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to help all students feel included

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and appreciated;

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whereas, Damiano "DJ" Sanders,

00:24:06.236 --> 00:24:07.766
a fifth grade student

00:24:07.766 --> 00:24:11.526
at Regee Elementary School in Nacodoches ISD,

00:24:11.526 --> 00:24:13.172
takes care of

00:24:13.172 --> 00:24:14.689
others in need,

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whether it is carrying their books

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or giving them a pat on the back

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or providing them encouragement;

00:24:21.361 --> 00:24:22.754
and whereas, Lance White,

00:24:22.754 --> 00:24:24.405
a cancer patient

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and junior at Senior Park High School

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in Leander ISD,

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used his own experience

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as a springboard

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to create Lift Brigade,

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a charity that provides support

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for pediatric cancer patients

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and their families;

00:24:40.948 --> 00:24:43.944
whereas, Ella Pursley, a student

00:24:43.944 --> 00:24:46.299
at North Ridge Middle School

00:24:46.299 --> 00:24:47.492
at Birdville ISD,

00:24:47.492 --> 00:24:50.682
has provided more than 700 hours

00:24:50.682 --> 00:24:52.349
of community service

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hosting birthday parties

00:24:53.324 --> 00:24:54.811
for homeless children

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and serving as a buddy for special needs children;

00:24:58.272 --> 00:25:00.365
and whereas, Braden Munn,

00:25:00.365 --> 00:25:03.396
a senior at Highland Park High School

00:25:03.396 --> 00:25:05.586
in Highland Park ISD.

00:25:05.586 --> 00:25:07.786
heads the Community Service Council,

00:25:07.786 --> 00:25:09.477
provided math tutoring,

00:25:09.477 --> 00:25:11.923
serves as an orientation counselor,

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and is a liaison between the schools

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and communities;

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whereas,

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Eghosa

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Egbenoma,

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a sophomore

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at James Bowie High School

00:25:26.474 --> 00:25:28.462
in Arlington ISD,

00:25:28.462 --> 00:25:30.063
has volunteered

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in every aspect

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of the DFW Metroplex

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Toys for Tots program

00:25:35.265 --> 00:25:37.721
for the past four years;

00:25:37.721 --> 00:25:38.908
whereas, Blake Travis,

00:25:38.908 --> 00:25:40.840
a fifth grade student

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at Dagan Elementary School

00:25:43.084 --> 00:25:44.729
in Lewisville ISD,

00:25:44.729 --> 00:25:47.392
launched and has rapidly grown

00:25:47.392 --> 00:25:49.011
a toy drive

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that provides gifts

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for hospitalized children;

00:25:52.620 --> 00:25:54.273
whereas, Tinsley Drake,

00:25:54.273 --> 00:25:55.931
a fourth grade student

00:25:55.931 --> 00:25:58.874
at Jose S. Rameriz Elementary School

00:25:58.874 --> 00:26:00.590
in Lubbock ISD,

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handcrafts jewelry

00:26:02.126 --> 00:26:04.207
that she sells to raise funds to support

00:26:04.207 --> 00:26:05.858
Open Door,

00:26:05.858 --> 00:26:09.705
a charity that assists homeless people;

00:26:09.705 --> 00:26:11.657
and whereas, these amazing students

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have modeled caring

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and compassion in their communities;

00:26:17.107 --> 00:26:19.900
now, therefore, be it resolved

00:26:19.900 --> 00:26:21.957
that the State Board of Education extends

00:26:21.957 --> 00:26:23.272
its heartfelt thanks

00:26:23.272 --> 00:26:25.945
to each of these kind students

00:26:25.945 --> 00:26:27.830
and commends them

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for their unselfish volunteerism,

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good character,

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and integrity.

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And be it further resolved

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that this resolution be presented

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to each of them

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and that a copy be included

00:26:40.499 --> 00:26:42.201
in the permanent records

00:26:42.201 --> 00:26:44.961
of the State Board of Education.

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Witness our signatures this 15th day

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of June, 2018,

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Austin, Texas.

00:26:51.401 --> 00:26:52.357
Chaired by Donna Bahorich,

00:26:52.357 --> 00:26:54.339
Secretary Ruben Cortez.

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(applause)

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So, this is probably one of the most amazing, I think,

00:27:05.008 --> 00:27:05.884
awards that

00:27:05.884 --> 00:27:07.717
this body has created.

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So just want to commend all these kids.

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Madam Chair, I move

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that we adopt the resolution.

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<v ->All those in favor, say aye.</v>

00:27:20.995 --> 00:27:22.035
<v Group>Aye.</v>

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<v ->Resolution is adopted.</v>

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Thank you.

00:27:25.277 --> 00:27:26.729
<v Mr. Maynard>Madam Chair.</v>

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<v ->Yes.</v>

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Oh sorry.

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Mr. Maynard.

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<v ->I think we would be remiss</v>

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if we didn't just remind ourselves

00:27:36.226 --> 00:27:37.408
that I believe this was,

00:27:37.408 --> 00:27:39.806
this was sort of the vision of

00:27:39.806 --> 00:27:41.917
Barbara Cargill.

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And so,

00:27:44.470 --> 00:27:46.998
what a legacy that is for Barbara,

00:27:46.998 --> 00:27:48.398
and thank you for that.

00:27:48.398 --> 00:27:51.272
And so, in need of perpetuity,

00:27:51.272 --> 00:27:53.290
as we recognize young people

00:27:53.290 --> 00:27:55.555
who have a heart of service

00:27:55.555 --> 00:27:58.055
and thank you for that vision.

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<v ->I'd like to echo that.</v>

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I love doing that cause I always do a surprise

00:28:02.762 --> 00:28:04.373
for my person.

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And I just love that,

00:28:05.800 --> 00:28:07.839
that award because it just really

00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:09.175
exemplifies what you want.

00:28:09.175 --> 00:28:11.159
Cause it's about the character of our kids.

00:28:11.159 --> 00:28:12.475
It's not just what's in their head.

00:28:12.475 --> 00:28:14.317
It's about where there heart is

00:28:14.317 --> 00:28:17.359
and where their attitude of service is

00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:19.077
and who they are as people,

00:28:19.077 --> 00:28:20.758
and folks of integrity.

00:28:20.758 --> 00:28:22.666
So it's just so awesome to see

00:28:22.666 --> 00:28:24.121
how giving the kids are,

00:28:24.121 --> 00:28:26.034
and the creative ways they think of serving

00:28:26.034 --> 00:28:27.599
their fellow students in the community.

00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:30.743
It's just amazing, even from really little bitty ones.

00:28:30.743 --> 00:28:32.599
That's the thing that amazes me.

00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:35.958
If the numbers of entries we get for just little guys

00:28:35.958 --> 00:28:38.411
that are starting out with a heart of service.

00:28:38.411 --> 00:28:41.056
The more we can encourage that,

00:28:41.056 --> 00:28:42.055
the better.

00:28:42.055 --> 00:28:44.317
And so yes, thank you Chair,

00:28:44.317 --> 00:28:45.896
former Chair Cargo,

00:28:45.896 --> 00:28:46.729
Cargill,

00:28:48.229 --> 00:28:50.812
for thinking of this brainchild

00:28:51.831 --> 00:28:53.890
because it really is a wonderful award.

00:28:53.890 --> 00:28:55.672
Thank you so much.

00:28:55.672 --> 00:28:56.687
<v Woman>I thought one of the hardest ones--</v>

00:28:56.687 --> 00:28:57.831
<v ->It is the heart.</v>

00:28:57.831 --> 00:28:59.081
Go ahead, Ms. Melton--

00:29:00.080 --> 00:29:01.949
<v ->That's probably one of the hardest jobs</v>

00:29:01.949 --> 00:29:03.142
that we have

00:29:03.142 --> 00:29:05.465
because as I read through those nominations,

00:29:05.465 --> 00:29:07.798
it's extremely hard to pick.

00:29:09.729 --> 00:29:11.940
And I'm sure I echo for the rest of you too.

00:29:11.940 --> 00:29:15.148
Sometimes, it's just, you know,

00:29:15.148 --> 00:29:17.388
that's the hardest job we do.

00:29:17.388 --> 00:29:20.953
<v ->Yeah, you'd really like to give one to every child,</v>

00:29:20.953 --> 00:29:22.726
that is for sure.

00:29:22.726 --> 00:29:24.318
And congratulations to all these

00:29:24.318 --> 00:29:25.979
student heroes.

00:29:25.979 --> 00:29:28.369
They're really an inspiration to all of us.

00:29:28.369 --> 00:29:29.529
Okay members,

00:29:29.529 --> 00:29:30.577
moving on.

00:29:30.577 --> 00:29:31.843
Public testimony.

00:29:31.843 --> 00:29:35.290
We don't have any persons registered to testify today.

00:29:35.290 --> 00:29:38.926
And so now we'll move on to the Consent Agenda,

00:29:38.926 --> 00:29:41.426
which is in Roman numeral nine

00:29:42.379 --> 00:29:44.279
in your Board Agenda book.

00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.556
And I'll read through the Consent Agenda items.

00:29:47.556 --> 00:29:49.502
Hello Commissioner.

00:29:49.502 --> 00:29:51.531
We just wanted to give you a wave back here.

00:29:51.531 --> 00:29:53.781
(laughter)

00:29:54.814 --> 00:29:57.762
Number one, review an adoption of Long
Term

00:29:57.762 --> 00:29:59.921
Strategic Asset Allocation Plan

00:29:59.921 --> 00:30:02.220
of the Permanent School Fund.

00:30:02.220 --> 00:30:04.466
Item two, review of the report

00:30:04.466 --> 00:30:05.829
on Permanent School Fund

00:30:05.829 --> 00:30:07.638
percentage distribution rates

00:30:07.638 --> 00:30:09.200
under consideration for Fiscal Years

00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:10.367
2020 and 2021.

00:30:12.706 --> 00:30:13.757
Item number three,

00:30:13.757 --> 00:30:15.345
per capita apportionment rate

00:30:15.345 --> 00:30:17.845
for the 2017-2018 school year.

00:30:21.387 --> 00:30:23.446
Number four, ratification of the purchases

00:30:23.446 --> 00:30:25.721
and sales of the investment portfolio

00:30:25.721 --> 00:30:27.386
of the Permanent School Fund

00:30:27.386 --> 00:30:30.805
for the months of March and April, 2018.

00:30:30.805 --> 00:30:33.135
Number five, decision on real estate investments.

00:30:33.135 --> 00:30:37.270
Number six, review of the Permanent School Fund

00:30:37.270 --> 00:30:39.401
Real Estate Annual Tactical Plan.

00:30:39.401 --> 00:30:40.484
Number seven,

00:30:41.355 --> 00:30:42.706
review of the Permanent School Fund

00:30:42.706 --> 00:30:46.281
private equity investment policy and guidelines.

00:30:46.281 --> 00:30:49.739
Number eight was pulled from the agenda.

00:30:49.739 --> 00:30:51.063
It was discussed, as I understand it,

00:30:51.063 --> 00:30:52.692
but pulled from the agenda.

00:30:52.692 --> 00:30:54.025
And number nine,

00:30:54.999 --> 00:30:57.188
that was on the review of the Bond Guarantee Program

00:30:57.188 --> 00:30:59.039
charter capacity.

00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:00.845
That was pulled from the agenda.

00:31:00.845 --> 00:31:02.521
Number nine, adoption of the review

00:31:02.521 --> 00:31:03.354
of 19 TAC

00:31:04.338 --> 00:31:05.495
Chapter 61

00:31:05.495 --> 00:31:06.973
School District Subchapter A,

00:31:06.973 --> 00:31:10.178
Board of Trustees Relationship.

00:31:10.178 --> 00:31:13.879
Is there any objection to approving

00:31:13.879 --> 00:31:15.317
the Consent Agenda?

00:31:15.317 --> 00:31:17.316
Yes, Mrs. Miller.

00:31:17.316 --> 00:31:19.149
(inaudible)

00:31:19.149 --> 00:31:21.913
Okay, Mrs. Miller needs to recuse herself

00:31:21.913 --> 00:31:23.741
from the Real Estate vote.

00:31:23.741 --> 00:31:25.574
Hearing no objections,

00:31:26.793 --> 00:31:29.293
the Consent Agenda is adopted,

00:31:30.399 --> 00:31:31.399
or approved.

00:31:33.851 --> 00:31:35.211
Now, item number three,

00:31:35.211 --> 00:31:37.561
and I believe Ms. Martinez,

00:31:37.561 --> 00:31:39.500
you had something for us

00:31:39.500 --> 00:31:43.304
that you were gonna bring back today.

00:31:43.304 --> 00:31:44.587
You know, should I take just

00:31:44.587 --> 00:31:46.463
like a five minute break?

00:31:46.463 --> 00:31:47.989
Cause I forgot about the pictures back here.

00:31:47.989 --> 00:31:50.463
So we're gonna take just a few minutes

00:31:50.463 --> 00:31:53.193
just you know, let's reassemble at 10 'til,

00:31:53.193 --> 00:31:54.340
how's that?

00:31:54.340 --> 00:31:55.590
10 minutes 'til.

00:32:05.407 --> 00:32:07.553
Members, I'm gonna pull us all back together

00:32:07.553 --> 00:32:09.196
so we can continue with our agenda.

00:32:09.196 --> 00:32:12.196
I know some of us have early planes.

00:32:14.348 --> 00:32:15.520
So on your Board Agenda,

00:32:15.520 --> 00:32:16.853
item I dash one,

00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:19.908
this is Committee of the Full Board minutes.

00:32:19.908 --> 00:32:22.624
And I believe Mr. Rowley has that responsibility.

00:32:22.624 --> 00:32:24.124
Mr. Rowley, where,

00:32:26.124 --> 00:32:27.126
whoops, did I start us off without him?

00:32:27.126 --> 00:32:28.126
Okay, sorry.

00:32:32.327 --> 00:32:34.849
I think somebody's got my COI minutes.

00:32:34.849 --> 00:32:35.937
I think I lent them to somebody.

00:32:35.937 --> 00:32:37.797
Can I get another copy of those?

00:32:37.797 --> 00:32:39.130
Okay, thank you.

00:32:45.002 --> 00:32:46.710
<v ->Are you ready for Committee of the Full Board Minutes?</v>

00:32:46.710 --> 00:32:47.825
Sorry, okay.

00:32:47.825 --> 00:32:51.893
So this is on page one of your minutes.

00:32:51.893 --> 00:32:52.810
It's board,

00:32:53.713 --> 00:32:56.162
it's action item two.

00:32:56.162 --> 00:32:59.245
It's on Board Agenda, page I dash one.

00:33:00.411 --> 00:33:02.494
Board Agenda, I dash one.

00:33:03.707 --> 00:33:08.040
Approval of Proclamation 2020 Questions and Answers.

00:33:14.082 --> 00:33:16.396
And it is recommended that the State Board of Education

00:33:16.396 --> 00:33:20.396
approve Proclamation 2020 Questions and Answers.

00:33:22.855 --> 00:33:23.688
<v Woman>Madam Chair.</v>

00:33:23.688 --> 00:33:24.868
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes.</v>

00:33:24.868 --> 00:33:27.419
So this is Monica.

00:33:27.419 --> 00:33:28.252
<v ->I'm gonna sit back here, if that's okay.</v>

00:33:28.252 --> 00:33:30.073
Just briefly, during your break,

00:33:30.073 --> 00:33:31.890
we did distribute a handout.

00:33:31.890 --> 00:33:33.509
It says 71.

00:33:33.509 --> 00:33:35.326
So during the committee meeting earlier this week,

00:33:35.326 --> 00:33:38.812
we indicated that we would make an adjustment

00:33:38.812 --> 00:33:41.037
to the question about the word search.

00:33:41.037 --> 00:33:43.287
So this proposed adjustment

00:33:45.517 --> 00:33:48.431
would strongly encourage that the word search feature

00:33:48.431 --> 00:33:52.387
be kept in teacher materials for Proclamation 2020.

00:33:52.387 --> 00:33:54.291
So if the board

00:33:54.291 --> 00:33:57.588
is interested, you could amend the proclamation

00:33:57.588 --> 00:33:59.542
before you take the final vote

00:33:59.542 --> 00:34:02.036
to adjust this one question.

00:34:02.036 --> 00:34:03.351
<v ->Would anyone like to make a motion to do so?</v>

00:34:03.351 --> 00:34:04.268
Mr. Rowley.

00:34:05.589 --> 00:34:06.729
(inaudible)

00:34:06.729 --> 00:34:10.096
So the motion is to amend the question,

00:34:10.096 --> 00:34:12.459
the answer if you will,

00:34:12.459 --> 00:34:13.487
to Question 71 in

00:34:13.487 --> 00:34:17.039
the Proclamation 2020 Questions and Answers

00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:19.772
that would say the word search feature

00:34:19.772 --> 00:34:22.974
requirement is specific to pre-adoption samples,

00:34:22.974 --> 00:34:24.672
which are made available to the public

00:34:24.672 --> 00:34:25.987
through TEA's website.

00:34:25.987 --> 00:34:27.691
The feature is used to

00:34:27.691 --> 00:34:30.343
search for specific words and phrases

00:34:30.343 --> 00:34:32.447
within the student and teacher materials.

00:34:32.447 --> 00:34:33.963
Publishers are strongly encouraged

00:34:33.963 --> 00:34:35.727
to include the word search feature

00:34:35.727 --> 00:34:37.114
in the final version

00:34:37.114 --> 00:34:39.229
of teacher materials.

00:34:39.229 --> 00:34:40.767
All those in favor, say aye.

00:34:40.767 --> 00:34:41.787
<v Group>Aye.</v>

00:34:41.787 --> 00:34:42.788
<v ->All those opposed, say no.</v>

00:34:42.788 --> 00:34:44.892
That motion is adopted.

00:34:44.892 --> 00:34:46.337
And now we're back to the

00:34:46.337 --> 00:34:47.605
approval.

00:34:47.605 --> 00:34:48.604
Yeah.

00:34:48.604 --> 00:34:49.788
Yeah, we're back to the main motion.

00:34:49.788 --> 00:34:52.508
And so the main motion before us

00:34:52.508 --> 00:34:54.943
as put forward by Member Rowley

00:34:54.943 --> 00:34:56.689
was to approve Proclamation 2020

00:34:56.689 --> 00:35:00.178
Questions and Answers as amended.

00:35:00.178 --> 00:35:02.102
All those in favor, say aye.

00:35:02.102 --> 00:35:03.092
<v Group>Aye.</v>

00:35:03.092 --> 00:35:04.083
<v ->All those opposed, say no.</v>

00:35:04.083 --> 00:35:05.583
Motion is adopted.

00:35:07.220 --> 00:35:09.276
Now we're on to Texas Certificate

00:35:09.276 --> 00:35:11.385
of High School Equivalency.

00:35:11.385 --> 00:35:13.385
Mr. Rowley, continue on.

00:35:15.705 --> 00:35:16.538
<v ->Okay.</v>

00:35:17.790 --> 00:35:18.820
Texas certificate--

00:35:18.820 --> 00:35:20.418
<v Donna>Yeah, so it was withdrawn,</v>

00:35:20.418 --> 00:35:22.089
but I didn't know if you wanted to--

00:35:22.089 --> 00:35:23.092
<v ->Oh, okay, yeah.</v>

00:35:23.092 --> 00:35:24.140
The committee took no action.

00:35:24.140 --> 00:35:25.169
<v Donna>Took no action, okay.</v>

00:35:25.169 --> 00:35:27.317
<v ->Okay, and then I believe</v>

00:35:27.317 --> 00:35:30.567
items four and five were on the consent

00:35:31.795 --> 00:35:32.962
agenda, right.

00:35:34.815 --> 00:35:36.076
Okay.

00:35:36.076 --> 00:35:37.795
So we're on action item six,

00:35:37.795 --> 00:35:40.462
page three of the board minutes.

00:35:43.884 --> 00:35:45.339
Item six, page three of the board minutes.

00:35:45.339 --> 00:35:48.506
That's on Board Agenda, page I dash 15.

00:35:52.864 --> 00:35:54.594
And it's recommended that the State Board of Education

00:35:54.594 --> 00:35:56.813
approve for second reading and final adoption,

00:35:56.813 --> 00:35:57.646
(clears throat) excuse me,

00:35:58.868 --> 00:36:01.285
propose new 19 TAC Chapter 74,

00:36:02.143 --> 00:36:03.998
Curriculum Requirements, Subchapter C,

00:36:03.998 --> 00:36:05.665
(clears throat) I'm just speechless.

00:36:07.051 --> 00:36:10.084
Other Provisions, Sections 74.39,

00:36:10.084 --> 00:36:13.657
Requirements for Instruction on Proper Interaction

00:36:13.657 --> 00:36:15.167
with Peace Officers,

00:36:15.167 --> 00:36:16.775
and make an affirmative finding

00:36:16.775 --> 00:36:17.993
for the immediate adoption

00:36:17.993 --> 00:36:20.930
of proposed new 19 TAC Chapter 74,

00:36:20.930 --> 00:36:23.248
Curriculum Requirements, Subchapter C,

00:36:23.248 --> 00:36:26.058
under the provisions, Section 74.39,

00:36:26.058 --> 00:36:28.495
Requirements for Instruction

00:36:28.495 --> 00:36:30.148
on Proper Interaction with Peace Officers

00:36:30.148 --> 00:36:31.289
as Necessary

00:36:31.289 --> 00:36:35.539
shall have and effective date of August 27th, 2018.

00:36:37.049 --> 00:36:38.954
<v ->Okay, members,</v>

00:36:38.954 --> 00:36:42.608
because a vote of two-thirds of the members

00:36:42.608 --> 00:36:44.665
of the board is necessary for that earlier effective date,

00:36:44.665 --> 00:36:46.147
I'll ask you for a show of hands.

00:36:46.147 --> 00:36:49.397
All those in favor, hold your hands up.

00:36:51.369 --> 00:36:54.933
All those opposed, hold your hands up.

00:36:54.933 --> 00:36:56.014
Okay, the motion is adopted

00:36:56.014 --> 00:36:58.635
with that earlier effective date

00:36:58.635 --> 00:37:00.805
of August 27th, 2018.

00:37:00.805 --> 00:37:01.905
Okay, moving on.

00:37:01.905 --> 00:37:03.217
<v ->Okay, this is action item seven</v>

00:37:03.217 --> 00:37:04.800
on top of page four

00:37:05.826 --> 00:37:07.659
of your board minutes.

00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:11.662
This is Board Agenda I dash 23.

00:37:12.587 --> 00:37:17.170
And it is recommended that the State Board of Education

00:37:18.034 --> 00:37:19.755
approve for first reading

00:37:19.755 --> 00:37:21.055
and filing authorization

00:37:21.055 --> 00:37:23.359
proposed new 19 TAC Chapter 113,

00:37:23.359 --> 00:37:26.618
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

00:37:26.618 --> 00:37:27.859
for Social Studies,

00:37:27.859 --> 00:37:29.444
Subchapter C,

00:37:29.444 --> 00:37:30.441
High School,

00:37:30.441 --> 00:37:31.691
Section 113.50.

00:37:35.634 --> 00:37:38.430
You know what, I might have been reading the wrong one.

00:37:38.430 --> 00:37:39.435
Well up until that.

00:37:39.435 --> 00:37:40.712
<v Ms. Bahorich>No, that's right.</v>

00:37:40.712 --> 00:37:42.593
<v ->There we go.</v>

00:37:42.593 --> 00:37:43.899
Ethnic Studies, Mexican-American Studies,

00:37:43.899 --> 00:37:48.185
One Credit, as amended by the Committee of the Full Board.

00:37:48.185 --> 00:37:49.189
<v Woman>Madam Chair.</v>

00:37:49.189 --> 00:37:50.232
<v Donna>Yes.</v>

00:37:50.232 --> 00:37:51.232
<v ->So we did,</v>

00:37:52.253 --> 00:37:53.966
we are currently distributing a copy of

00:37:53.966 --> 00:37:57.503
the rule text that includes the amendments

00:37:57.503 --> 00:37:59.337
that are reflected in your minutes.

00:37:59.337 --> 00:38:00.754
We thought you might want to see

00:38:00.754 --> 00:38:02.316
that language

00:38:02.316 --> 00:38:04.399
before you take the vote.

00:38:05.653 --> 00:38:08.163
So the highlighted language

00:38:08.163 --> 00:38:12.746
is what was amended by the Committee of the Full Board.

00:38:13.604 --> 00:38:14.508
<v ->Right, cause we were doing a good job</v>

00:38:14.508 --> 00:38:16.280
on first reading of getting amendments done.

00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:18.556
(laughter)

00:38:18.556 --> 00:38:19.569
Yay.

00:38:19.569 --> 00:38:20.580
Okay.

00:38:20.580 --> 00:38:21.577
So go ahead and look that over.

00:38:21.577 --> 00:38:24.577
Just take a second and look it over.

00:38:27.461 --> 00:38:29.216
And this has been emailed yet or no?

00:38:29.216 --> 00:38:33.966
Okay, well make sure that that gets emailed to everybody.

00:38:39.809 --> 00:38:40.807
Yeah, we just

00:38:40.807 --> 00:38:41.808
had some amendments

00:38:41.808 --> 00:38:42.813
and very few

00:38:42.813 --> 00:38:44.980
cause the course was good.

00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:49.512
Okay.

00:38:50.873 --> 00:38:53.450
So the motion before us was to approve

00:38:53.450 --> 00:38:54.698
for first reading and filing authorization

00:38:54.698 --> 00:38:57.261
for proposed new 19 TAC Chapter 113,

00:38:57.261 --> 00:38:58.693
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

00:38:58.693 --> 00:39:00.341
for Social Studies,

00:39:00.341 --> 00:39:02.094
Subchapter C, High School,

00:39:02.094 --> 00:39:03.344
Chapter 113.50,

00:39:05.223 --> 00:39:06.251
Ethnic Studies,

00:39:06.251 --> 00:39:07.260
Mexican-American Studies,

00:39:07.260 --> 00:39:09.194
One Credit, as amended by the Committee of the Full Board.

00:39:09.194 --> 00:39:10.859
This is voice vote only.

00:39:10.859 --> 00:39:12.741
All those in favor, say aye.

00:39:12.741 --> 00:39:13.747
<v Group>Aye.</v>

00:39:13.747 --> 00:39:14.770
<v ->All those opposed, say no.</v>

00:39:14.770 --> 00:39:17.589
Alright, that motion is adopted.

00:39:17.589 --> 00:39:18.927
<v Mr. Rowley>Madam Chair, I believe</v>

00:39:18.927 --> 00:39:20.242
that's all the action items.

00:39:20.242 --> 00:39:22.081
<v ->On the Committee of the Full Board.</v>

00:39:22.081 --> 00:39:25.007
<v Mr. Rowley>On the Committee of the Full Board.</v>

00:39:25.007 --> 00:39:26.166
<v ->Okay, I believe the next one is</v>

00:39:26.166 --> 00:39:27.183
Committee of Instruction.

00:39:27.183 --> 00:39:28.168
And let me get to it.

00:39:28.168 --> 00:39:29.199
Let's all get to our notes on that.

00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:30.699
Ms. Melton-Malone.

00:39:41.823 --> 00:39:44.254
<v ->Alright, the first,</v>

00:39:44.254 --> 00:39:46.921
the first motion is on page two,

00:39:47.924 --> 00:39:50.341
about the middle of the page.

00:39:51.691 --> 00:39:52.524
This is

00:39:53.541 --> 00:39:55.279
proposed amendment to 19 TAC,

00:39:55.279 --> 00:39:56.679
Chapter 74,

00:39:56.679 --> 00:39:58.162
Curriculum Requirements,

00:39:58.162 --> 00:39:59.165
Subchapter C,

00:39:59.165 --> 00:40:00.167
Other Provisions,

00:40:00.167 --> 00:40:02.855
74.24, Credit by Examination.

00:40:02.855 --> 00:40:05.202
This is for second reading

00:40:05.202 --> 00:40:06.373
and filing adoption

00:40:06.373 --> 00:40:07.830
and is in your Board Agenda book

00:40:07.830 --> 00:40:08.747
on two one.

00:40:11.293 --> 00:40:13.321
Madam Chair, on behalf of the Committee on Instruction,

00:40:13.321 --> 00:40:15.996
I move that the State Board of Education

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approve for second reading and filing adoption

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the proposed amendment

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to 19 TAC

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Chapter 74,

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Curriculum Requirements,

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Subchapter C,

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Other Provisions

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74.24, Credit by Examination,

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as substituted

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and make an affirmative finding

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that immediate adoption of the proposed amendment

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to 19 TAC Chapter 74,

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Curriculum Requirements

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Subchapter C,

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Other Provisions,

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74.24, Credit by Examination,

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is necessary and shall have an effective date

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of August 27th, 2018.

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(inaudible)

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It's on page two.

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(inaudible)

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Sorry members,</v>

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I was on the wrong agenda item here.

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Alright.

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Yes.

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Yes, Mr. Rowley.

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<v ->Discussion and some</v>

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additions, proposed additions

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with regard to this.

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay, terrific.</v>

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<v ->Okay.</v>

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(inaudible)

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I think we just,

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let Mr. Rowley

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see what he wants to recommend here.

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Go ahead, Mr. Rowley.

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<v ->Well it may be that,</v>

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are those the changes from the original text?

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<v ->Yes.</v>

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<v ->Okay.</v>

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<v ->Madam Chair,</v>

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attachment A in your minutes

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is what the committee

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voted on yesterday.

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<v ->I think that's really important to look</v>

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at what was

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because we amended as of yesterday,

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so I want to make sure everybody's looking

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at the right document

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if we passed this other document out.

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<v ->[Ms. Melton-Malone] It's on page five.</v>

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(group chatter)

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<v ->Yes.</v>

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Also in the email.

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<v ->Okay, and members,</v>

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I guess I'm asking for your indulgence here

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this morning.

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I know typically on Friday, we don't

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take up more weighty matters like this,

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but this Credit by Examination

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affects,

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or the changes to this rule,

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affects Texas Tech University

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and also UT Austin,

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who are the

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preparers, I guess,

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of these credits by examination

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as well as local school districts.

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Some of us maybe,

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I don't know how many, have been,

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have been contacted by email

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also from TASA

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with regard to some changes that they

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had proposed.

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I think everyone was

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at the committee meeting yesterday.

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And all of this was fully discussed.

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But early this morning,

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I was provided with

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some additional proposed changes

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to the text of this rule.

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So if possible, what I would like to do

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is to ask maybe Ms. Martinez

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to maybe address

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some of these

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because I know by the way

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Ms. Martinez and others have

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been involved in extensive conversations

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with all of the interested parties

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in an attempt to arrive

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at a rule that is

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workable for everyone.

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So it's been really a big effort

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and everyone's worked very hard to do that.

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It's my understanding that TASA

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has some additional proposed changes

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this morning even to the latest text.

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Okay.

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So what I'm going to do

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is to raise those.

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I guess about the only way to do it

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parliamentary wise

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in the form of a motion to amend.

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And then I will allow,

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ask Ms. Martinez to address these.

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And then we can vote from there.

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Is that permissible, Madam Chair?

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<v Ms. Bahorich>Yeah.</v>

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I think that's the only way we can do that.

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<v ->Okay.</v>

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<v Ms. Bahorich>But I think we should pass out,</v>

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go ahead and pass out the things

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that Marty's gonna be reading off of,

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it seems like.

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Is that what you'd like?

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<v ->Yes please.</v>

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That would be helpful.

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Cause it's gonna get pretty complicated.

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And for the most part, I'm just like that.

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I've got one, thank you.

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I'd like to just hear Ms. Martinez

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give an explanation for these

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and then at least I would have proposed

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them to the group.

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<v ->Okay, I want to make sure.</v>

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Has everybody got their,

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the attachment?

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Is it on the right page for the latest?

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'cause we amended pretty heavily yesterday

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in committee.

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So I just want to make sure that we're.

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(inaudible)

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Attached to the minutes.

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Yeah, if you've got that one, you're in good shape.

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<v ->Yeah, and just by way of further explanation,</v>

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there were

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a number of substantive amendments

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that took place yesterday in the committee.

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And so this is at first blush,

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or the first presentation of this rule text

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as it exists today.

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So that's why we're having to have a conversation

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this morning.

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But even to take it one step further,

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my understanding is

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that if we do not act on the rule today,

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then essentially the prior rule

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goes into effect,

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or stays in effect,

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which then, I don't think is acceptable to TEA

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because this is all about

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raising the level of accountability

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and validity, validation,

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of the rules

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for Credit by Examination.

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<v Mr. Maynard>Point of information.</v>

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<v ->That's everything I know.</v>

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<v ->I'm looking at the,</v>

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I'm looking at this draft in the minutes

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and so the, what is underlined and,

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well, what is bold-faced,

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are those the amendments from yesterday?

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<v ->So Mr. Maynard,</v>

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some of the,

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and that's a very good question.

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So some of the language that is in bold

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with a double underline

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is our recommended changes since

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what was posted for first reading.

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So, many of these adjustments were made

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in response to public comment.

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And in many instances,

00:46:11.522 --> 00:46:14.533
incorporate recommendations that were made by

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TASA and others.

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There were some additional amendments that were made

00:46:20.745 --> 00:46:23.693
by the committee yesterday,

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and I can walk you through

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and point out what the additional changes

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that were made by the committee.

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So the first one is going to be on

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B1.

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It should be the first page, I believe.

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No, yeah.

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Bottom of page one

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where it says the Board of Trustees

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shall approve an audit process

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to be completed for assessments

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for acceleration.

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So that was added by the committee yesterday.

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On the next page, C1,

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you'll see comparable language.

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The Board of Trustees shall approve an audit process

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to be completed for examinations

00:47:04.933 --> 00:47:08.642
under subparagraph B3 of this paragraph.

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If you look down,

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I'm sorry, on the next page,

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3B,

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there was a reference to some language,

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and the committee felt like it made more sense

00:47:25.289 --> 00:47:27.402
to reference paragraph 2D

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to ensure consistency.

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So that change was made by the committee.

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And then four B three,

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the committee asked staff to take a look at

00:47:44.426 --> 00:47:46.833
that language that had said

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yield comparable results

00:47:48.332 --> 00:47:49.249
among test,

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among subgroups.

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What we tried to do here was, again,

00:47:53.650 --> 00:47:55.067
to make sure that

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the language was both reasonable

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and met the expectation of ensuring high quality,

00:48:04.082 --> 00:48:06.134
valid and reliable assessments.

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And so the language was adjusted to clarify

00:48:09.099 --> 00:48:11.016
that the expectation is

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for comparable distribution of results

00:48:16.870 --> 00:48:18.910
across tested subgroups.

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And the idea here is to make clear

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that if a school district

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doesn't have certain subgroups

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that they're testing,

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then there wouldn't be an expectation

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that they addressed results for those subgroups.

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It's only for the students that they test.

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And so we feel like

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this also helps

00:48:36.176 --> 00:48:37.998
within the school districts

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to make sure that we've got a clear and

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reasonable expectation there.

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And then, language in number five,

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it had said the, approval

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by the Texas Education Agency.

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This says if

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a test provider needs additional time,

00:49:05.435 --> 00:49:07.576
so this wouldn't be an explicit requirement,

00:49:07.576 --> 00:49:08.493
but should,

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and we think that this is really applicable

00:49:11.687 --> 00:49:13.209
to potentially to

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one or both of the universities.

00:49:14.631 --> 00:49:16.321
If they needed additional time

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to address the comparable distribution of results,

00:49:19.718 --> 00:49:22.096
then they could come and get approval from you,

00:49:22.096 --> 00:49:23.887
the State Board of Education,

00:49:23.887 --> 00:49:25.740
for that additional time.

00:49:25.740 --> 00:49:27.884
So that was a change that the committee made.

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And then finally,

00:49:28.894 --> 00:49:31.674
at the request of the testifiers,

00:49:31.674 --> 00:49:33.195
6d,

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they ask that some language be added

00:49:35.395 --> 00:49:38.145
related to results and to specify

00:49:40.312 --> 00:49:42.270
that there's a difference between students

00:49:42.270 --> 00:49:44.789
who take the test, having had prior instruction,

00:49:44.789 --> 00:49:45.992
and students who didn't.

00:49:45.992 --> 00:49:48.347
I think in the comments you received,

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there are terms to include credit recovery

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and acceleration.

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We didn't use those terms in the rule

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because that's not

00:49:55.991 --> 00:49:59.891
the terminology that we use in the rule.

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So we tried our best to capture what

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the request was in that new 6d.

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<v ->Madam Chair,</v>

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just a follow up on my point of information,

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and just to make sure that

00:50:15.010 --> 00:50:16.483
if I can ask staff

00:50:16.483 --> 00:50:17.897
is that, so

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the intent of the revision

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was to do what?

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Just overall, just give me the,

00:50:25.084 --> 00:50:27.084
just a 30,000 foot view.

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And then the objection

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that kind of came from the field,

00:50:34.086 --> 00:50:36.010
how would you, just in general,

00:50:36.010 --> 00:50:37.072
sort of characterize that?

00:50:37.072 --> 00:50:38.202
What is sort of the philosophical

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or the practical tension

00:50:39.731 --> 00:50:41.335
between what was originally proposed

00:50:41.335 --> 00:50:43.668
and what the discussion was?

00:50:46.021 --> 00:50:48.904
<v ->So, in terms of the reason that you're considering</v>

00:50:48.904 --> 00:50:50.573
these rule amendments today,

00:50:50.573 --> 00:50:52.066
several years ago,

00:50:52.066 --> 00:50:53.867
the legislature passed a law

00:50:53.867 --> 00:50:57.120
that requires districts to exempt students from

00:50:57.120 --> 00:50:59.742
end of course assessments

00:50:59.742 --> 00:51:03.483
if they take and earn credit through Credit by Exam.

00:51:03.483 --> 00:51:06.619
At that time, the board took action

00:51:06.619 --> 00:51:10.289
to build in additional requirements for CBE

00:51:10.289 --> 00:51:12.630
to ensure that we had appropriate

00:51:12.630 --> 00:51:14.898
validity and reliability.

00:51:14.898 --> 00:51:17.840
You gave all test providers

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a number of years to implement that requirement.

00:51:21.795 --> 00:51:24.144
The requirement needs to go into place

00:51:24.144 --> 00:51:26.996
beginning with the 2018-19 school year

00:51:26.996 --> 00:51:30.177
according to the current rule, if you take no action.

00:51:30.177 --> 00:51:31.594
We did learn that

00:51:33.080 --> 00:51:35.446
we had reason to believe

00:51:35.446 --> 00:51:37.969
that there were not going to be test providers

00:51:37.969 --> 00:51:39.111
under the current rule

00:51:39.111 --> 00:51:40.522
who would be able to meet

00:51:40.522 --> 00:51:41.895
all requirements to make exams available.

00:51:41.895 --> 00:51:43.407
So staff

00:51:43.407 --> 00:51:46.199
placed this item on your agenda.

00:51:46.199 --> 00:51:48.599
We tried to take a look at where

00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:50.349
the challenges were

00:51:50.349 --> 00:51:51.876
and made some recommendations

00:51:51.876 --> 00:51:54.848
to decrease the requirements

00:51:54.848 --> 00:51:56.851
that are in the current rule.

00:51:56.851 --> 00:51:58.877
So that was the initial proposal

00:51:58.877 --> 00:51:59.993
that was brought to you

00:51:59.993 --> 00:52:01.527
for discussion

00:52:01.527 --> 00:52:04.527
when we first brought this issue up.

00:52:05.415 --> 00:52:06.516
After that discussion,

00:52:06.516 --> 00:52:08.667
we received some feedback that

00:52:08.667 --> 00:52:12.260
the recommendations were not clear.

00:52:12.260 --> 00:52:13.262
So at first reading,

00:52:13.262 --> 00:52:17.058
we did our best to try to provide that clarification.

00:52:17.058 --> 00:52:18.505
We referenced a document

00:52:18.505 --> 00:52:19.755
that the agency

00:52:20.657 --> 00:52:23.914
has as part of their technical digest for assessments

00:52:23.914 --> 00:52:25.719
that we thought would be helpful.

00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:27.298
We learned that we were wrong

00:52:27.298 --> 00:52:29.318
and that that was not helpful.

00:52:29.318 --> 00:52:31.037
In fact, that created more confusion,

00:52:31.037 --> 00:52:32.494
which was not our intent.

00:52:32.494 --> 00:52:36.704
You had already taken a vote for first reading

00:52:36.704 --> 00:52:38.029
filing authorization.

00:52:38.029 --> 00:52:40.660
But we did, at the request of the chair,

00:52:40.660 --> 00:52:43.320
continue to work to try to make sure

00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:45.718
that the proposal included

00:52:45.718 --> 00:52:47.778
reasonable expectations

00:52:47.778 --> 00:52:49.218
and as was mentioned,

00:52:49.218 --> 00:52:50.274
we had several conversations

00:52:50.274 --> 00:52:52.341
that resulted in

00:52:52.341 --> 00:52:55.082
most of the language that you see in bold.

00:52:55.082 --> 00:52:57.249
I do not want to speak for

00:52:59.259 --> 00:53:02.176
the intent of anyone who is come to

00:53:03.020 --> 00:53:04.870
raise any concerns to you.

00:53:04.870 --> 00:53:07.408
What I can tell you is that there were

00:53:07.408 --> 00:53:09.072
comments that we received

00:53:09.072 --> 00:53:10.673
during the official public comment period.

00:53:10.673 --> 00:53:12.476
And is often the case,

00:53:12.476 --> 00:53:16.455
we will suggest that you consider certain changes.

00:53:16.455 --> 00:53:20.288
But we don't always agree that the changes are

00:53:22.517 --> 00:53:24.703
the most appropriate direction to take with the rule.

00:53:24.703 --> 00:53:26.289
And that's what happened here.

00:53:26.289 --> 00:53:29.078
We tried our very best to incorporate

00:53:29.078 --> 00:53:32.786
as many of the adjustments as we felt

00:53:32.786 --> 00:53:33.805
were reasonable.

00:53:33.805 --> 00:53:35.055
We did receive,

00:53:36.037 --> 00:53:38.272
I received some informal feedback from

00:53:38.272 --> 00:53:40.485
at least one entity that while

00:53:40.485 --> 00:53:41.568
I think they,

00:53:43.572 --> 00:53:45.683
it wouldn't be their preference,

00:53:45.683 --> 00:53:47.273
they felt like what we were

00:53:47.273 --> 00:53:49.106
presenting was doable.

00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:53.587
That was not, I don't think a consistent message.

00:53:53.587 --> 00:53:55.985
And I think there was not complete agreement

00:53:55.985 --> 00:53:58.000
in all of the comments that we received.

00:53:58.000 --> 00:53:59.531
And so we tried to do our best

00:53:59.531 --> 00:54:00.904
to work through all of that

00:54:00.904 --> 00:54:02.260
to give you a proposal

00:54:02.260 --> 00:54:04.524
that we feel is a sound proposal.

00:54:04.524 --> 00:54:06.691
<v Mr. Maynard>Thank you.</v>

00:54:08.198 --> 00:54:09.428
Mr. Rowley still has the floor, I believe,

00:54:09.428 --> 00:54:10.980
actually.

00:54:10.980 --> 00:54:13.630
<v Ms. Bahorich>Ms. Beltran,</v>

00:54:13.630 --> 00:54:14.840
why don't you speak and then Ms. Hardy.

00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:16.996
<v ->I just had a question</v>

00:54:16.996 --> 00:54:18.577
for Monica as a followup for background.

00:54:18.577 --> 00:54:19.666
So how much time

00:54:19.666 --> 00:54:21.879
have these entities had to

00:54:21.879 --> 00:54:22.712
prepare,

00:54:23.787 --> 00:54:25.954
how much time has gone by?

00:54:27.630 --> 00:54:29.335
<v ->So you approved the,</v>

00:54:29.335 --> 00:54:31.927
you adopted the rules in 2014.

00:54:31.927 --> 00:54:33.638
The original rule.

00:54:33.638 --> 00:54:34.471
Probably,

00:54:35.998 --> 00:54:39.748
we'll say a little over three years probably.

00:54:41.688 --> 00:54:43.331
So the rule was adopted

00:54:43.331 --> 00:54:45.122
so that folks could begin this process

00:54:45.122 --> 00:54:46.205
back in 2014.

00:54:47.789 --> 00:54:50.976
And it actually goes into effect in terms of being

00:54:50.976 --> 00:54:52.695
able to offer exams for students

00:54:52.695 --> 00:54:55.862
at the start of the 18-19 school year.

00:54:58.447 --> 00:55:00.371
<v ->So the rules were adopted,</v>

00:55:00.371 --> 00:55:02.533
but then, there's sometimes we put stuff way ahead

00:55:02.533 --> 00:55:04.768
so that there's a lot of preparation.

00:55:04.768 --> 00:55:06.940
People know exactly what you're trying to do.

00:55:06.940 --> 00:55:09.183
<v ->Alright, just as a followup,</v>

00:55:09.183 --> 00:55:12.529
and so all the entities have had

00:55:12.529 --> 00:55:13.779
lots of notice,

00:55:14.827 --> 00:55:16.707
some sort of understanding.

00:55:16.707 --> 00:55:18.038
There was still

00:55:18.038 --> 00:55:19.315
a threshold that

00:55:19.315 --> 00:55:20.857
we felt, they felt they couldn't meet,

00:55:20.857 --> 00:55:22.948
which is part of the changes that we're doing now.

00:55:22.948 --> 00:55:25.073
But the entities have had,

00:55:25.073 --> 00:55:27.493
since 2014 at least,

00:55:27.493 --> 00:55:30.726
those have been understood as the expectations.

00:55:30.726 --> 00:55:31.907
<v ->Yes, ma'am, that's correct.</v>

00:55:31.907 --> 00:55:33.627
<v ->To be made, okay.</v>

00:55:33.627 --> 00:55:35.297
<v ->Well, and I understand there's been</v>

00:55:35.297 --> 00:55:37.483
a long standing attempt

00:55:37.483 --> 00:55:39.685
to try to see how to do exactly what was in

00:55:39.685 --> 00:55:41.587
the rule that was passed in 2014.

00:55:41.587 --> 00:55:43.443
Then the complications came up, and so

00:55:43.443 --> 00:55:47.192
that's been the response we've gotten.

00:55:47.192 --> 00:55:49.942
(microphone cuts out)

00:55:52.914 --> 00:55:54.516
<v ->I just have a quick question.</v>

00:55:54.516 --> 00:55:56.730
I want to make sure that what we're talking about here

00:55:56.730 --> 00:55:58.980
effects the Credit by Exams

00:56:01.134 --> 00:56:03.090
that are the STAAR,

00:56:03.090 --> 00:56:04.757
or EOC tested areas.

00:56:05.787 --> 00:56:07.154
<v ->I believe those are the amendments</v>

00:56:07.154 --> 00:56:09.669
that Mr. Rowley are going to offer, I think.

00:56:09.669 --> 00:56:10.923
We haven't talked about them yet,

00:56:10.923 --> 00:56:12.012
but I believe so.

00:56:12.012 --> 00:56:13.255
<v ->Madam Chair,</v>

00:56:13.255 --> 00:56:14.358
if I may clarify.

00:56:14.358 --> 00:56:15.515
I think that's an important distinction.

00:56:15.515 --> 00:56:18.848
So there are requirements for all exams.

00:56:19.845 --> 00:56:22.347
The requirements for the five courses

00:56:22.347 --> 00:56:25.502
that have EOC's are the more stringent.

00:56:25.502 --> 00:56:28.696
And I think that is what has garnered the bulk

00:56:28.696 --> 00:56:30.033
of the conversation

00:56:30.033 --> 00:56:31.616
since this came up.

00:56:33.565 --> 00:56:34.565
<v Ms. Bahorich>Mr. Rowley.</v>

00:56:34.565 --> 00:56:37.398
<v ->So the sections to which I have,</v>

00:56:39.474 --> 00:56:42.057
that I've been asked to address

00:56:43.652 --> 00:56:46.052
is section four, first Monica,

00:56:46.052 --> 00:56:47.351
if I could--

00:56:47.351 --> 00:56:49.268
Four B, Romanette three,

00:56:51.004 --> 00:56:52.171
in particular.

00:56:54.458 --> 00:56:56.922
And that does, Member Hardy, deal with

00:56:56.922 --> 00:56:58.523
end of course exams.

00:56:58.523 --> 00:57:00.885
And maybe a question for clarification

00:57:00.885 --> 00:57:01.718
for staff.

00:57:02.762 --> 00:57:04.034
And then I'll determine

00:57:04.034 --> 00:57:07.648
how much further I move forward on this.

00:57:07.648 --> 00:57:08.910
And that is

00:57:08.910 --> 00:57:10.829
when you say that

00:57:10.829 --> 00:57:13.912
an exam has been externally validated

00:57:15.045 --> 00:57:17.060
and determined to,

00:57:17.060 --> 00:57:19.116
this is four B,

00:57:19.116 --> 00:57:20.173
has been externally validated

00:57:20.173 --> 00:57:21.269
and determined to

00:57:21.269 --> 00:57:23.549
yield comparable distribution

00:57:23.549 --> 00:57:24.382
of results

00:57:25.223 --> 00:57:27.223
across tested subgroups.

00:57:28.983 --> 00:57:32.233
What does distribution of results mean?

00:57:36.081 --> 00:57:37.440
<v ->So Dr. Schwinn is here today</v>

00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:39.942
to assist us with the explanations

00:57:39.942 --> 00:57:42.694
so that I don't misspeak

00:57:42.694 --> 00:57:43.852
and get any of this--

00:57:43.852 --> 00:57:44.971
<v ->Called in the big guns.</v>

00:57:44.971 --> 00:57:46.026
<v Ms. Martinez>I did.</v>

00:57:46.026 --> 00:57:47.733
(laughter)

00:57:47.733 --> 00:57:48.887
<v ->Yeah, okay.</v>

00:57:48.887 --> 00:57:49.987
<v ->We'll temper expectations a little.</v>

00:57:49.987 --> 00:57:53.562
So I think that the whole wording on that

00:57:53.562 --> 00:57:55.236
was intended to reflect

00:57:55.236 --> 00:57:56.373
that the distribution of how students perform

00:57:56.373 --> 00:57:58.165
on these assessments

00:57:58.165 --> 00:58:00.107
should look relatively similar

00:58:00.107 --> 00:58:02.736
to the distribution that you would see on the STAAR.

00:58:02.736 --> 00:58:05.229
So the expectations aren't overly ambitious

00:58:05.229 --> 00:58:07.386
so that you're expecting more out of students

00:58:07.386 --> 00:58:08.898
then they would naturally perform on a STAAR assessment.

00:58:08.898 --> 00:58:11.259
And that you're not lowering expectations

00:58:11.259 --> 00:58:12.926
so that everyone gets a grade

00:58:12.926 --> 00:58:14.271
that they wouldn't naturally earn.

00:58:14.271 --> 00:58:15.875
So you should see the same distribution

00:58:15.875 --> 00:58:17.315
of performance.

00:58:17.315 --> 00:58:18.339
<v ->Okay.</v>

00:58:18.339 --> 00:58:19.384
And then the other

00:58:19.384 --> 00:58:22.599
amendment or change, I'm sorry.

00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:24.117
<v ->Okay, yeah, let's answer that.</v>

00:58:24.117 --> 00:58:26.591
I had a question on that.

00:58:26.591 --> 00:58:27.591
<v ->I'm sorry.</v>

00:58:30.779 --> 00:58:32.974
External validation.

00:58:32.974 --> 00:58:35.042
Is the question who would be determining that?

00:58:35.042 --> 00:58:36.873
It would be external validations.

00:58:36.873 --> 00:58:38.561
So you would be able to have access

00:58:38.561 --> 00:58:40.320
to what the distribution looks like

00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:41.330
on our STAAR assessment

00:58:41.330 --> 00:58:43.791
for the same population or a similar population.

00:58:43.791 --> 00:58:45.646
It would be similar to how you would do equating

00:58:45.646 --> 00:58:47.056
on a normal STAAR.

00:58:47.056 --> 00:58:48.324
You could see here's what we would look at.

00:58:48.324 --> 00:58:49.511
Here's external validations

00:58:49.511 --> 00:58:51.393
to say that this is approximately the same.

00:58:51.393 --> 00:58:52.783
It wouldn't have to be a perfect match.

00:58:52.783 --> 00:58:54.533
You could say this generally shows

00:58:54.533 --> 00:58:56.294
that the level of distribution

00:58:56.294 --> 00:59:00.102
indicates some comparability between assessments.

00:59:00.102 --> 00:59:01.956
<v ->Okay, so basically in doing that,</v>

00:59:01.956 --> 00:59:03.433
what you're saying is

00:59:03.433 --> 00:59:06.790
if I took the Credit by Exam from Texas Tech for

00:59:06.790 --> 00:59:07.790
biology one,

00:59:09.484 --> 00:59:10.651
that that test

00:59:11.558 --> 00:59:13.921
would be comparable to the

00:59:13.921 --> 00:59:15.599
scores that the kids made

00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:18.837
if they took the regular STAAR test.

00:59:18.837 --> 00:59:20.554
<v Dr. Schwinn>That the distribution would be the same.</v>

00:59:20.554 --> 00:59:21.566
<v ->The distribution.</v>

00:59:21.566 --> 00:59:23.614
<v ->Yeah, so you would see,</v>

00:59:23.614 --> 00:59:24.711
so let's say,

00:59:24.711 --> 00:59:25.781
let's do a biracial group,

00:59:25.781 --> 00:59:26.958
racial student population.

00:59:26.958 --> 00:59:28.296
You would say on this,

00:59:28.296 --> 00:59:31.105
on a normal distribution for that specific district

00:59:31.105 --> 00:59:31.938
or area,

00:59:33.257 --> 00:59:35.671
you have 60% of students from this particular student group

00:59:35.671 --> 00:59:37.247
perform at this level.

00:59:37.247 --> 00:59:39.436
You have something relatively similar

00:59:39.436 --> 00:59:41.314
on this Credit by Exam test.

00:59:41.314 --> 00:59:45.135
That you'd have some level of comparability there.

00:59:45.135 --> 00:59:46.318
It wouldn't necessarily mean

00:59:46.318 --> 00:59:47.473
the proficiency levels are the same.

00:59:47.473 --> 00:59:49.263
We wouldn't have the ability to do that kind of study.

00:59:49.263 --> 00:59:51.353
But we would be able to say as an approximation

00:59:51.353 --> 00:59:53.035
if the performance,

00:59:53.035 --> 00:59:55.418
if the graphs of the performance approximately match.

00:59:55.418 --> 00:59:57.650
That that's a good indicator

00:59:57.650 --> 01:00:00.021
that the test is treating all students equally,

01:00:00.021 --> 01:00:02.225
that it's not making it too hard for some students

01:00:02.225 --> 01:00:03.839
and too easy for others.

01:00:03.839 --> 01:00:06.001
<v ->And these, whether it's Texas Tech</v>

01:00:06.001 --> 01:00:07.978
or whether it's Cypress Fairbanks,

01:00:07.978 --> 01:00:09.938
they would send this information to you guys

01:00:09.938 --> 01:00:11.413
and you all would look at it

01:00:11.413 --> 01:00:13.744
and relative to each other.

01:00:13.744 --> 01:00:16.631
<v ->I'm looking at Monica to see about from process</v>

01:00:16.631 --> 01:00:18.145
whether they would send it to us

01:00:18.145 --> 01:00:19.886
or what level of data they would send to us.

01:00:19.886 --> 01:00:21.462
But there would be kind of a,

01:00:21.462 --> 01:00:23.304
we wouldn't be the ones doing the external validation.

01:00:23.304 --> 01:00:24.951
I can say that.

01:00:24.951 --> 01:00:27.168
That would have to be,

01:00:27.168 --> 01:00:28.712
that would be done elsewhere.

01:00:28.712 --> 01:00:30.019
<v ->So the way that this is set up is that</v>

01:00:30.019 --> 01:00:31.692
we just say external validation.

01:00:31.692 --> 01:00:32.911
So in other words,

01:00:32.911 --> 01:00:33.994
the folks who are developing the test

01:00:33.994 --> 01:00:36.133
should then be going in

01:00:36.133 --> 01:00:38.300
and taking a look at

01:00:38.300 --> 01:00:41.314
whether they need these expectations.

01:00:41.314 --> 01:00:42.231
We weren't,

01:00:43.331 --> 01:00:46.298
we didn't specify that they didn't have to get

01:00:46.298 --> 01:00:48.152
a certain group to do this

01:00:48.152 --> 01:00:50.451
to give them the flexibility

01:00:50.451 --> 01:00:53.281
to make those kinds of determinations.

01:00:53.281 --> 01:00:54.745
But the idea would just be

01:00:54.745 --> 01:00:56.491
that if I'm writing the test,

01:00:56.491 --> 01:00:58.056
I shouldn't be the one that

01:00:58.056 --> 01:00:59.557
then goes in to verify

01:00:59.557 --> 01:01:02.277
that it meets these expectations.

01:01:02.277 --> 01:01:03.572
<v ->Well, I certainly understand that,</v>

01:01:03.572 --> 01:01:06.907
but then necessitates another expense

01:01:06.907 --> 01:01:10.496
or what on the part of the person giving the test,

01:01:10.496 --> 01:01:12.496
on the validation thing.

01:01:14.117 --> 01:01:15.553
<v ->So it doesn't necessarily need to</v>

01:01:15.553 --> 01:01:18.599
in and of itself generate an expense.

01:01:18.599 --> 01:01:22.358
There are any number of ways that this could be done.

01:01:22.358 --> 01:01:24.671
I think part of conversations that I recall is

01:01:24.671 --> 01:01:27.588
it may be that two school districts

01:01:28.724 --> 01:01:31.024
could review each others.

01:01:31.024 --> 01:01:32.520
That would be external.

01:01:32.520 --> 01:01:34.907
There was a question, I think,

01:01:34.907 --> 01:01:35.911
in the conversation yesterday

01:01:35.911 --> 01:01:37.727
about an education service center doing that review.

01:01:37.727 --> 01:01:39.988
So as long as there was,

01:01:39.988 --> 01:01:41.376
they identified

01:01:41.376 --> 01:01:42.615
an individual,

01:01:42.615 --> 01:01:43.896
and I think that's where the committee

01:01:43.896 --> 01:01:45.737
was looking to

01:01:45.737 --> 01:01:48.312
build in some language that says

01:01:48.312 --> 01:01:49.620
the school district board of trustees

01:01:49.620 --> 01:01:51.331
should be making these decisions about

01:01:51.331 --> 01:01:53.331
the appropriate entities

01:01:54.418 --> 01:01:56.514
and the appropriate processes.

01:01:56.514 --> 01:01:59.014
<v Ms. Hardy>Okay, thank you.</v>

01:02:00.033 --> 01:02:01.581
<v ->I do have a question to follow up on that.</v>

01:02:01.581 --> 01:02:04.220
I want to make sure, because we did talk about that.

01:02:04.220 --> 01:02:05.931
I didn't quite see it captured,

01:02:05.931 --> 01:02:07.112
but maybe I'm just missing it.

01:02:07.112 --> 01:02:09.155
That the school board of trustees,

01:02:09.155 --> 01:02:11.883
because we said in the audit process,

01:02:11.883 --> 01:02:14.293
but we didn't really

01:02:14.293 --> 01:02:15.492
draw attention to that.

01:02:15.492 --> 01:02:16.551
And maybe I'm just missing it,

01:02:16.551 --> 01:02:18.686
where the school board trustees

01:02:18.686 --> 01:02:21.075
about the development process,

01:02:21.075 --> 01:02:23.232
you know, that they would approve that.

01:02:23.232 --> 01:02:26.171
That's the only thing that I was wondering

01:02:26.171 --> 01:02:28.254
if I'm just missing that.

01:02:30.118 --> 01:02:30.951
<v ->So, my,</v>

01:02:35.506 --> 01:02:36.964
<v Ms. Bahorich>We talked about development</v>

01:02:36.964 --> 01:02:38.622
and an audit--

01:02:38.622 --> 01:02:39.773
<v ->There are a couple of different places.</v>

01:02:39.773 --> 01:02:40.690
So, A four,

01:02:42.114 --> 01:02:43.231
says a school district,

01:02:43.231 --> 01:02:44.381
this is current rule,

01:02:44.381 --> 01:02:45.875
this has been in place for a very long time.

01:02:45.875 --> 01:02:47.581
A school district must have the approval

01:02:47.581 --> 01:02:49.019
of the school district board of trustees

01:02:49.019 --> 01:02:51.357
to develop its own tests

01:02:51.357 --> 01:02:52.679
or to purchase examinations

01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:54.920
that thoroughly test the essential knowledge and skills

01:02:54.920 --> 01:02:58.337
in the applicable grade level or subject.

01:02:59.608 --> 01:03:00.627
So that,

01:03:00.627 --> 01:03:01.970
<v Ms. Bahorich>But I don't know that that says--</v>

01:03:01.970 --> 01:03:04.479
<v ->If you wanted to add the development process,</v>

01:03:04.479 --> 01:03:07.173
you could probably do that in B one.

01:03:07.173 --> 01:03:08.927
I didn't have that in my notes.

01:03:08.927 --> 01:03:11.882
What I had in my notes was the process for auditing.

01:03:11.882 --> 01:03:13.727
<v ->Yeah, I think that would, to me,</v>

01:03:13.727 --> 01:03:16.619
get at having the school board

01:03:16.619 --> 01:03:17.952
kind of oversee.

01:03:19.805 --> 01:03:21.436
Like what does that look like

01:03:21.436 --> 01:03:22.641
for external development,

01:03:22.641 --> 01:03:23.794
you know, the whole development,

01:03:23.794 --> 01:03:24.627
like what are we expecting there,

01:03:24.627 --> 01:03:25.658
I mean to me?

01:03:25.658 --> 01:03:27.442
Am I missing that?

01:03:27.442 --> 01:03:28.870
Okay.

01:03:28.870 --> 01:03:31.165
So that would be the right place to put that,

01:03:31.165 --> 01:03:32.645
to develop its own tests.

01:03:32.645 --> 01:03:35.412
Develop its own test or purchase examinations,

01:03:35.412 --> 01:03:38.245
to develop and approve the process

01:03:39.084 --> 01:03:40.543
to develop its own tests.

01:03:40.543 --> 01:03:43.960
So we add that as an amendment, possibly?

01:03:48.944 --> 01:03:51.123
Because we had great agreement on that yesterday

01:03:51.123 --> 01:03:53.135
within the committee when we were talking about that.

01:03:53.135 --> 01:03:55.283
And so I was expecting it in the notes, that's all.

01:03:55.283 --> 01:03:57.116
Okay, no, that's fine.

01:04:00.834 --> 01:04:02.530
Okay, before I offer that amendment,

01:04:02.530 --> 01:04:04.278
or maybe somebody,

01:04:04.278 --> 01:04:05.455
I don't know if somebody else

01:04:05.455 --> 01:04:06.523
wants to offer that amendment or not.

01:04:06.523 --> 01:04:08.216
Or can I, should I--

01:04:08.216 --> 01:04:09.227
I have a follow-up question before we get away from that.

01:04:09.227 --> 01:04:10.756
Yeah.

01:04:10.756 --> 01:04:11.589
Yeah.

01:04:12.715 --> 01:04:13.799
Okay, absolutely.

01:04:13.799 --> 01:04:15.077
Go ahead.

01:04:15.077 --> 01:04:16.252
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:04:16.252 --> 01:04:18.002
So that I understand,

01:04:19.048 --> 01:04:20.058
(inaudible) or Monica,

01:04:20.058 --> 01:04:20.975
either one.

01:04:21.864 --> 01:04:23.860
So prior to the first administration

01:04:23.860 --> 01:04:26.061
of the exam, right,

01:04:26.061 --> 01:04:27.601
so before it's even offered.

01:04:27.601 --> 01:04:29.307
So between now and 2018,

01:04:29.307 --> 01:04:30.390
or 2019-2020.

01:04:32.718 --> 01:04:35.885
That's when this is going into effect.

01:04:37.949 --> 01:04:39.532
Here's my question.

01:04:40.733 --> 01:04:44.657
Can a provider of the Credit by Examination,

01:04:44.657 --> 01:04:47.657
such as oh, Texas Tech, for example,

01:04:49.365 --> 01:04:51.569
are they going to have access

01:04:51.569 --> 01:04:54.797
to the distribution of test results

01:04:54.797 --> 01:04:56.297
for STAAR subgroups

01:04:57.742 --> 01:05:01.825
and in advance of when this rule goes into effect

01:05:03.314 --> 01:05:05.585
so that they can have an external validation

01:05:05.585 --> 01:05:07.501
of their exam?

01:05:07.501 --> 01:05:09.375
Or is this going to take

01:05:09.375 --> 01:05:11.402
Texas Tech, or maybe even UT,

01:05:11.402 --> 01:05:12.629
I don't know,

01:05:12.629 --> 01:05:13.789
but certainly Texas Tech,

01:05:13.789 --> 01:05:15.541
out of the market for a year

01:05:15.541 --> 01:05:16.708
until they can

01:05:17.868 --> 01:05:19.425
get this

01:05:19.425 --> 01:05:20.758
validation done?

01:05:22.214 --> 01:05:23.381
<v ->So that was,</v>

01:05:24.513 --> 01:05:25.623
that's a very good question, Mr. Rowley,

01:05:25.623 --> 01:05:28.526
and that was the reason for that new number five.

01:05:28.526 --> 01:05:30.574
It is my understanding

01:05:30.574 --> 01:05:32.477
that for Texas Tech,

01:05:32.477 --> 01:05:35.144
that B3 was the last piece,

01:05:36.355 --> 01:05:38.750
so they have been working on this.

01:05:38.750 --> 01:05:40.020
And I think to Ms. Beltran's point,

01:05:40.020 --> 01:05:41.671
they've been working through this

01:05:41.671 --> 01:05:43.444
for some time.

01:05:43.444 --> 01:05:45.022
My understanding was that B3

01:05:45.022 --> 01:05:47.863
was that the piece that was the hangup

01:05:47.863 --> 01:05:51.116
and that was the reason to say in number five

01:05:51.116 --> 01:05:52.841
that they could get approval

01:05:52.841 --> 01:05:53.674
to do that

01:05:55.561 --> 01:05:57.978
over a longer period of time.

01:05:59.023 --> 01:06:02.669
And we could certainly adjust that language.

01:06:02.669 --> 01:06:05.840
This should all happen before they administer the exam,

01:06:05.840 --> 01:06:08.401
but if you wanted to allow them to go ahead

01:06:08.401 --> 01:06:09.764
and administer the exams

01:06:09.764 --> 01:06:11.765
that had met all the other requirements

01:06:11.765 --> 01:06:13.458
while they work on this,

01:06:13.458 --> 01:06:15.541
then that felt like a way

01:06:16.550 --> 01:06:18.883
to help address both issues.

01:06:20.614 --> 01:06:22.665
<v ->I'm in favor of that.</v>

01:06:22.665 --> 01:06:23.733
Okay.

01:06:23.733 --> 01:06:25.256
So am I gonna have to come up with rule change language

01:06:25.256 --> 01:06:26.673
today to do that?

01:06:27.621 --> 01:06:29.200
<v ->Well, so that's,</v>

01:06:29.200 --> 01:06:31.220
that's what was intended by number five.

01:06:31.220 --> 01:06:33.764
I think there's one of two things that you could do.

01:06:33.764 --> 01:06:35.959
You could either clarify number five

01:06:35.959 --> 01:06:39.154
or as the board chair has asked,

01:06:39.154 --> 01:06:41.708
the agency can put out an FAQ for you

01:06:41.708 --> 01:06:44.875
to clarify, as we often do with rules,

01:06:46.578 --> 01:06:48.662
because we just can't possibly capture

01:06:48.662 --> 01:06:50.580
every possible detail

01:06:50.580 --> 01:06:51.668
in a rule.

01:06:51.668 --> 01:06:55.835
So I think it's really up to the will of the board

01:06:56.890 --> 01:07:00.245
how you'd like to address that.

01:07:00.245 --> 01:07:01.396
<v ->Okay, just so to clarify that,</v>

01:07:01.396 --> 01:07:03.530
so if there's an FAQ,

01:07:03.530 --> 01:07:04.778
frequently asked question,

01:07:04.778 --> 01:07:06.528
and you say, TEA says

01:07:07.670 --> 01:07:09.920
that a provider of the test

01:07:11.375 --> 01:07:14.708
can, if it meets all the other criteria,

01:07:18.528 --> 01:07:20.734
then with regard to 4B,

01:07:20.734 --> 01:07:23.640
romanette three, I guess is what we're talking about

01:07:23.640 --> 01:07:27.307
that they would have a longer period of time

01:07:28.158 --> 01:07:30.939
within which to meet that criteria?

01:07:30.939 --> 01:07:31.969
<v Monica>Correct.</v>

01:07:31.969 --> 01:07:33.293
<v ->And you can do that by clarification</v>

01:07:33.293 --> 01:07:35.526
and not by rule change.

01:07:35.526 --> 01:07:37.752
<v ->Well that's what number five attempted to say.</v>

01:07:37.752 --> 01:07:40.419
So if you were more comfortable,

01:07:41.277 --> 01:07:43.492
certainly you could adjust the language in five

01:07:43.492 --> 01:07:44.325
to try to

01:07:47.022 --> 01:07:48.638
say what you just said,

01:07:48.638 --> 01:07:50.697
because we may not have done it as eloquently

01:07:50.697 --> 01:07:51.982
as you just did.

01:07:51.982 --> 01:07:54.715
But that was the intent of number five.

01:07:54.715 --> 01:07:56.566
<v ->And just to understand that,</v>

01:07:56.566 --> 01:07:59.149
so then they would need to have

01:08:00.893 --> 01:08:02.832
in the September SBOE meeting,

01:08:02.832 --> 01:08:04.938
so for what school year does this go into effect?

01:08:04.938 --> 01:08:07.092
<v Monica>18-19.</v>

01:08:07.092 --> 01:08:08.355
<v ->Like now, right.</v>

01:08:08.355 --> 01:08:11.522
And so in our September board meeting,

01:08:12.745 --> 01:08:15.111
they would have, Tech would have to come before us

01:08:15.111 --> 01:08:15.944
and get

01:08:17.050 --> 01:08:19.883
kind of an exemption or at least a

01:08:22.154 --> 01:08:24.428
some type of waiver,

01:08:24.428 --> 01:08:25.427
there you go,

01:08:25.427 --> 01:08:26.928
a waiver for

01:08:26.928 --> 01:08:28.355
with regard to that particular point.

01:08:28.355 --> 01:08:30.148
But they would have to do it in September.

01:08:30.148 --> 01:08:32.434
And they're already given the credits by exam

01:08:32.434 --> 01:08:34.184
by then, aren't they?

01:08:37.443 --> 01:08:39.250
Ms. Ramos, can you shed some light on that subject?

01:08:39.250 --> 01:08:41.121
<v Ms. Ramos>So Mr. Rowley,</v>

01:08:41.121 --> 01:08:43.215
your current rules are more stringent

01:08:43.215 --> 01:08:44.329
than these.

01:08:44.329 --> 01:08:46.792
They don't meet those criteria currently.

01:08:46.792 --> 01:08:47.952
<v ->But my understanding--</v>

01:08:47.952 --> 01:08:49.569
<v ->So they're not offering the Credit by Exams</v>

01:08:49.569 --> 01:08:51.341
for the end of course.

01:08:51.341 --> 01:08:52.642
<v Mr. Rowley>In their opinion,</v>

01:08:52.642 --> 01:08:53.751
it's impossible to meet those.

01:08:53.751 --> 01:08:54.584
<v ->That's correct.</v>

01:08:54.584 --> 01:08:55.417
That's what they shared with us yesterday.

01:08:55.417 --> 01:08:56.339
<v ->Alright.</v>

01:08:56.339 --> 01:08:58.427
And so it's not it's not physically possible

01:08:58.427 --> 01:08:59.517
for them to do that.

01:08:59.517 --> 01:09:01.210
<v Ms. Ramos>That's correct.</v>

01:09:01.210 --> 01:09:02.043
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:09:03.570 --> 01:09:05.687
Well, alright, so what I'm hearing then,

01:09:05.687 --> 01:09:07.545
and sorry members to belabor this,

01:09:07.545 --> 01:09:08.965
but I don't know any other way to do it.

01:09:08.965 --> 01:09:10.721
<v ->Mr. Rowley,</v>

01:09:10.721 --> 01:09:13.388
here's some possible language.

01:09:13.388 --> 01:09:16.555
So we would add approval may authorize

01:09:17.476 --> 01:09:18.741
use of the assessment

01:09:18.741 --> 01:09:21.023
if the assessment meets all other criteria

01:09:21.023 --> 01:09:23.231
during the period authorized

01:09:23.231 --> 01:09:24.654
by the State Board of Education

01:09:24.654 --> 01:09:26.468
to achieve the comparable results.

01:09:26.468 --> 01:09:27.838
<v Mr. Rowley>So moved.</v>

01:09:27.838 --> 01:09:30.079
(laughter)

01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:31.327
<v Ms. Bahorich>Do I have a second on that?</v>

01:09:31.327 --> 01:09:32.726
<v Woman>I'll second it.</v>

01:09:32.726 --> 01:09:34.479
<v ->Okay, any other discussion</v>

01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:35.529
on that particular

01:09:35.529 --> 01:09:37.587
motion to amend?

01:09:37.587 --> 01:09:39.107
All those in favor, say aye.

01:09:39.107 --> 01:09:40.118
<v Group>Aye.</v>

01:09:40.118 --> 01:09:41.125
<v ->All those opposed, say no.</v>

01:09:41.125 --> 01:09:43.279
Motion is adopted.

01:09:43.279 --> 01:09:44.615
Okay, members, I do have another amendment

01:09:44.615 --> 01:09:46.477
I'd like to offer.

01:09:46.477 --> 01:09:48.293
And Mr. Rowley may have some other ones.

01:09:48.293 --> 01:09:50.049
I just want to go ahead and finish addressing.

01:09:50.049 --> 01:09:52.190
And Dr. Ellis, did you want to say something

01:09:52.190 --> 01:09:54.075
before I do this amendment?

01:09:54.075 --> 01:09:55.074
<v ->Well I had a question on</v>

01:09:55.074 --> 01:09:56.123
B3?

01:09:56.123 --> 01:09:57.226
I don't know where that's falling in

01:09:57.226 --> 01:09:58.465
on what you're about to propose,

01:09:58.465 --> 01:10:01.737
on the comparable distribution.

01:10:01.737 --> 01:10:02.919
<v Ms. Bahorich>I'm sorry.</v>

01:10:02.919 --> 01:10:04.188
<v ->On four B three,</v>

01:10:04.188 --> 01:10:07.030
about the comparable distribution results.

01:10:07.030 --> 01:10:08.958
Is that where you're going?

01:10:08.958 --> 01:10:10.181
<v Ms. Bahorich>No, no, I was talking</v>

01:10:10.181 --> 01:10:11.323
about development news.

01:10:11.323 --> 01:10:12.393
<v ->Okay, so let me,</v>

01:10:12.393 --> 01:10:13.636
and Dr. Schwinn, I want to ask you this question

01:10:13.636 --> 01:10:16.829
about that part on four B three,

01:10:16.829 --> 01:10:19.066
which is yield comparable distribution results

01:10:19.066 --> 01:10:20.824
across tested subgroups.

01:10:20.824 --> 01:10:22.957
As was brought out yesterday at a hearing,

01:10:22.957 --> 01:10:25.545
the population taking this exam

01:10:25.545 --> 01:10:26.928
is very bimodal.

01:10:26.928 --> 01:10:28.750
You have the accelerated student group

01:10:28.750 --> 01:10:30.386
who's gonna perform typically higher.

01:10:30.386 --> 01:10:31.930
And you're gonna have the remediation

01:10:31.930 --> 01:10:34.084
student group, which is gonna typically

01:10:34.084 --> 01:10:35.212
perform maybe a little lower.

01:10:35.212 --> 01:10:37.002
Are we comparing that against

01:10:37.002 --> 01:10:39.646
the entire student population

01:10:39.646 --> 01:10:41.803
that would take an EOC or STAAR test?

01:10:41.803 --> 01:10:45.305
And if so, how do you get a comparable distribution

01:10:45.305 --> 01:10:47.228
when they're really different student subsets?

01:10:47.228 --> 01:10:48.682
Does that make sense?

01:10:48.682 --> 01:10:49.803
<v ->It does make sense.</v>

01:10:49.803 --> 01:10:51.752
So it's similar to if we were looking

01:10:51.752 --> 01:10:53.122
at like online testing,

01:10:53.122 --> 01:10:55.535
which doesn't have the same distribution state wide

01:10:55.535 --> 01:10:57.221
as paper testing on STAAR.

01:10:57.221 --> 01:10:59.748
So we would look at who actually takes the test.

01:10:59.748 --> 01:11:02.018
What is the characterization

01:11:02.018 --> 01:11:03.317
of that student population?

01:11:03.317 --> 01:11:05.855
Ann you would compare that to a like group.

01:11:05.855 --> 01:11:08.736
So if you had kind of outlier groups, for example,

01:11:08.736 --> 01:11:10.029
on either end,

01:11:10.029 --> 01:11:11.888
then you would essentially take

01:11:11.888 --> 01:11:13.041
a similar population

01:11:13.041 --> 01:11:14.253
and you'd create what's essentially

01:11:14.253 --> 01:11:15.935
like a mock student group

01:11:15.935 --> 01:11:17.411
and compare those results together,

01:11:17.411 --> 01:11:18.927
which we can do.

01:11:18.927 --> 01:11:20.248
We can look at prior performance.

01:11:20.248 --> 01:11:22.011
We can look at prior performance of those students

01:11:22.011 --> 01:11:22.995
on the STAAR.

01:11:22.995 --> 01:11:24.598
And we can look at similar student groups

01:11:24.598 --> 01:11:25.970
to see how they perform.

01:11:25.970 --> 01:11:27.412
So let's say you take a,

01:11:27.412 --> 01:11:29.322
you look at all the demographic indicators

01:11:29.322 --> 01:11:30.903
of a particular group of students.

01:11:30.903 --> 01:11:32.149
You look at who took that.

01:11:32.149 --> 01:11:33.927
You look at how those students in Texas

01:11:33.927 --> 01:11:35.057
performed on the STAAR.

01:11:35.057 --> 01:11:36.705
You can see similar distribution models.

01:11:36.705 --> 01:11:38.436
So there's a couple of different ways

01:11:38.436 --> 01:11:39.438
you can get at that,

01:11:39.438 --> 01:11:41.129
but that's part of what the analysis would be.

01:11:41.129 --> 01:11:43.185
<v ->That's what I wanted to make sure</v>

01:11:43.185 --> 01:11:44.843
is the agency had the ability to do that.

01:11:44.843 --> 01:11:46.336
<v ->It is possible</v>

01:11:46.336 --> 01:11:47.739
for it to be done.

01:11:47.739 --> 01:11:49.043
I don't think it's the agency who would be doing that work,

01:11:49.043 --> 01:11:51.012
but it would take a groups of, I think,

01:11:51.012 --> 01:11:52.428
very brilliant psychometricians

01:11:52.428 --> 01:11:54.589
who would be able to look at that.

01:11:54.589 --> 01:11:55.941
So if you have external validation,

01:11:55.941 --> 01:11:58.907
then there's quite a few people

01:11:58.907 --> 01:12:00.360
who could do that work.

01:12:00.360 --> 01:12:01.913
The agency would also be able to look at those results

01:12:01.913 --> 01:12:03.433
and determine whether or not that makes sense,

01:12:03.433 --> 01:12:05.530
how it was done.

01:12:05.530 --> 01:12:06.560
<v Dr. Ellis>Okay, thank you.</v>

01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:07.925
<v ->Yeah, it's like (inaudible) job.</v>

01:12:07.925 --> 01:12:10.592
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes, Ms. Hardy.</v>

01:12:14.179 --> 01:12:15.012
<v ->I'm trying to,</v>

01:12:15.012 --> 01:12:15.981
as everyone is,

01:12:15.981 --> 01:12:17.288
to understand this.

01:12:17.288 --> 01:12:19.779
But what, and I commend the

01:12:19.779 --> 01:12:22.482
agency if this is the way,

01:12:22.482 --> 01:12:24.121
what they are doing.

01:12:24.121 --> 01:12:25.898
They are making sure

01:12:25.898 --> 01:12:27.524
that whatever test

01:12:27.524 --> 01:12:29.137
that kids are expected to take,

01:12:29.137 --> 01:12:31.188
this body of five tests.

01:12:31.188 --> 01:12:34.588
So it has nothing to do with the other

01:12:34.588 --> 01:12:37.762
Credit by Exams that people take for different things

01:12:37.762 --> 01:12:38.850
all the time,

01:12:38.850 --> 01:12:40.332
whether it's to make up

01:12:40.332 --> 01:12:41.594
for missing a class

01:12:41.594 --> 01:12:42.853
or to move ahead.

01:12:42.853 --> 01:12:45.760
But these five need to have

01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:46.885
a set of criteria

01:12:46.885 --> 01:12:50.135
that is very, very stringently observed

01:12:51.962 --> 01:12:53.967
because otherwise,

01:12:53.967 --> 01:12:56.109
you will open yourself,

01:12:56.109 --> 01:12:58.220
the districts will open themselves up to

01:12:58.220 --> 01:12:59.053
a,

01:13:00.406 --> 01:13:01.713
I guess a test,

01:13:01.713 --> 01:13:04.463
like they have those puppy mills,

01:13:05.766 --> 01:13:07.284
a test mill

01:13:07.284 --> 01:13:08.633
so that they could

01:13:08.633 --> 01:13:09.966
very easily get,

01:13:12.148 --> 01:13:15.045
not have to take the five core tests.

01:13:15.045 --> 01:13:16.842
So this is what, this is like

01:13:16.842 --> 01:13:18.985
extra protection

01:13:18.985 --> 01:13:20.649
so that those,

01:13:20.649 --> 01:13:22.388
it will not be a

01:13:22.388 --> 01:13:24.408
way for people to not take the test

01:13:24.408 --> 01:13:27.197
that other students are expected to take.

01:13:27.197 --> 01:13:28.292
Is that the bottom line?

01:13:28.292 --> 01:13:30.542
<v Dr. Schwinn>Yes ma'am.</v>

01:13:31.423 --> 01:13:32.427
<v ->And since the legislature says</v>

01:13:32.427 --> 01:13:33.444
that they can,

01:13:33.444 --> 01:13:36.777
that Credit by Exams has to be accepted,

01:13:40.835 --> 01:13:41.668
that's fine.

01:13:41.668 --> 01:13:43.373
But if there's not a provider for that test,

01:13:43.373 --> 01:13:46.304
or that test doesn't meet the criteria,

01:13:46.304 --> 01:13:48.221
then that won't happen.

01:13:49.352 --> 01:13:50.973
But that's not,

01:13:50.973 --> 01:13:52.510
that's not the problem here

01:13:52.510 --> 01:13:55.459
because it's not your concern

01:13:55.459 --> 01:13:57.143
whether or not that test is available.

01:13:57.143 --> 01:13:59.981
It's just that if those tests call themselves available,

01:13:59.981 --> 01:14:03.457
you want them to make sure they meet that high criteria.

01:14:03.457 --> 01:14:05.404
<v Dr. Schwinn>Correct.</v>

01:14:05.404 --> 01:14:06.389
Yes.

01:14:06.389 --> 01:14:07.401
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:14:07.401 --> 01:14:08.423
<v ->I also just want to make a really quick point</v>

01:14:08.423 --> 01:14:09.482
of clarification.

01:14:09.482 --> 01:14:11.317
There's the state law, that federal law

01:14:11.317 --> 01:14:13.256
still requires students to take three assessments,

01:14:13.256 --> 01:14:16.625
an english, a math, and a science in high school.

01:14:16.625 --> 01:14:19.431
So we have a list of substitute assessments

01:14:19.431 --> 01:14:20.962
that students can take.

01:14:20.962 --> 01:14:23.392
But it's not, the state law doesn't waive them

01:14:23.392 --> 01:14:24.945
from the federal requirement on that.

01:14:24.945 --> 01:14:26.441
So we're really talking about two assessments

01:14:26.441 --> 01:14:28.538
that would be part of this window.

01:14:28.538 --> 01:14:29.859
And that's social studies

01:14:29.859 --> 01:14:31.202
and one of the english assessments.

01:14:31.202 --> 01:14:33.020
So that's, otherwise they have to

01:14:33.020 --> 01:14:34.321
take a substitute assessment anyway.

01:14:34.321 --> 01:14:35.404
So that's kind of,

01:14:35.404 --> 01:14:37.208
from an accountability perspective.

01:14:37.208 --> 01:14:39.625
I would also just share that.

01:14:41.222 --> 01:14:42.796
<v Ms. Bahorich>Mr. Rowley.</v>

01:14:42.796 --> 01:14:44.358
<v ->And to springboard somewhat</v>

01:14:44.358 --> 01:14:46.493
off of Dr. Ellis' comment,

01:14:46.493 --> 01:14:50.871
I'd like to draw attention to 6d as well.

01:14:50.871 --> 01:14:54.038
And 6d now deals with the reporting

01:14:56.196 --> 01:14:59.815
and not the validation approval, right.

01:14:59.815 --> 01:15:02.506
Okay, and so with regard to 6d,

01:15:02.506 --> 01:15:06.248
when it says results for all tested subgroups,

01:15:06.248 --> 01:15:10.564
disaggregated by students who received prior instruction

01:15:10.564 --> 01:15:14.182
and students with no prior instruction.

01:15:14.182 --> 01:15:16.039
Is that intended to reference

01:15:16.039 --> 01:15:17.706
accelerated students

01:15:18.609 --> 01:15:20.526
versus credit recovery?

01:15:21.761 --> 01:15:23.015
Is that the right word for the other students?

01:15:23.015 --> 01:15:24.017
<v ->Yes sir.</v>

01:15:24.017 --> 01:15:25.016
Yeah, we were just trying to

01:15:25.016 --> 01:15:26.121
be consistent with the language

01:15:26.121 --> 01:15:27.864
that is used in the--

01:15:27.864 --> 01:15:29.019
<v ->Okay, just so we know,</v>

01:15:29.019 --> 01:15:31.450
when this goes into the legislative intent,

01:15:31.450 --> 01:15:33.065
okay, right,

01:15:33.065 --> 01:15:34.073
into the record,

01:15:34.073 --> 01:15:35.799
and that is that

01:15:35.799 --> 01:15:38.163
really what you're looking for there is

01:15:38.163 --> 01:15:40.272
a reporting with regard to

01:15:40.272 --> 01:15:41.876
how students are doing

01:15:41.876 --> 01:15:44.034
and the distribution of those results

01:15:44.034 --> 01:15:46.048
for students who are accelerated,

01:15:46.048 --> 01:15:48.356
and also as another group,

01:15:48.356 --> 01:15:51.020
those who are taking the test for

01:15:51.020 --> 01:15:52.510
credit recovery purposes.

01:15:52.510 --> 01:15:54.700
<v ->So this is language again</v>

01:15:54.700 --> 01:15:56.617
that was recommended to the committee

01:15:56.617 --> 01:15:58.943
by a testifier yesterday.

01:15:58.943 --> 01:16:01.447
We did make the adjustment.

01:16:01.447 --> 01:16:04.702
They referred to acceleration and credit recovery.

01:16:04.702 --> 01:16:07.458
Those are are not terms that we use in the rule,

01:16:07.458 --> 01:16:09.152
which is why we use the other terminology.

01:16:09.152 --> 01:16:11.915
But I honestly cannot speak to

01:16:11.915 --> 01:16:13.211
the intent

01:16:13.211 --> 01:16:16.309
of that additional requirement.

01:16:16.309 --> 01:16:18.251
That is not something that came from the agency.

01:16:18.251 --> 01:16:21.078
<v ->The only thing that I would say</v>

01:16:21.078 --> 01:16:23.380
in an FAQ, it may be appropriate

01:16:23.380 --> 01:16:25.574
because of the objection that was raised,

01:16:25.574 --> 01:16:26.824
has to do with,

01:16:27.686 --> 01:16:29.469
well what if that instruction

01:16:29.469 --> 01:16:31.173
was outside the school somehow?

01:16:31.173 --> 01:16:34.307
That it really wasn't at the school,

01:16:34.307 --> 01:16:36.156
but they did have prior instruction

01:16:36.156 --> 01:16:39.120
in something from somewhere else.

01:16:39.120 --> 01:16:41.236
And then they wanted to take the test.

01:16:41.236 --> 01:16:42.069
And so,

01:16:44.123 --> 01:16:45.424
that's why, you know,

01:16:45.424 --> 01:16:47.078
okay, so which category?

01:16:47.078 --> 01:16:48.725
I mean I think that could be handled

01:16:48.725 --> 01:16:49.781
on an FAQ.

01:16:49.781 --> 01:16:50.971
That's all I'm saying.

01:16:50.971 --> 01:16:52.758
So the distinction between prior instruction

01:16:52.758 --> 01:16:53.958
and no prior instruction

01:16:53.958 --> 01:16:55.916
is something that was introduced in board rule

01:16:55.916 --> 01:16:58.929
and has been in place for many years.

01:16:58.929 --> 01:17:01.739
This is not actually a statutory requirement

01:17:01.739 --> 01:17:03.008
or distinction.

01:17:03.008 --> 01:17:05.489
Basically what you have said in your rules is

01:17:05.489 --> 01:17:07.340
that if a student has prior instruction,

01:17:07.340 --> 01:17:08.543
the student

01:17:08.543 --> 01:17:11.389
can earn credit with a 70%

01:17:11.389 --> 01:17:14.207
as opposed to a student who has no prior instruction.

01:17:14.207 --> 01:17:15.985
You used to say that they had to

01:17:15.985 --> 01:17:17.485
achieve 90%.

01:17:18.344 --> 01:17:20.720
The legislature decided that they wanted that to be 80%.

01:17:20.720 --> 01:17:23.137
So there is that distinction.

01:17:24.283 --> 01:17:26.865
But the actual state statue

01:17:26.865 --> 01:17:30.365
does not include this additional provision

01:17:31.838 --> 01:17:34.225
with a differentiation for students

01:17:34.225 --> 01:17:36.178
who've received prior instruction.

01:17:36.178 --> 01:17:38.474
<v ->With that clarification,</v>

01:17:38.474 --> 01:17:39.840
I'm great.

01:17:39.840 --> 01:17:42.227
And just to understand then

01:17:42.227 --> 01:17:43.560
we are modifying

01:17:46.371 --> 01:17:47.490
five or four B three,

01:17:47.490 --> 01:17:49.729
or whatever with that additional language

01:17:49.729 --> 01:17:52.686
that we added earlier, right.

01:17:52.686 --> 01:17:54.808
Thank you members.

01:17:54.808 --> 01:17:56.760
<v ->Okay, did you,</v>

01:17:56.760 --> 01:17:59.163
yes, Dr. Ellis and then Ms. Beltran.

01:17:59.163 --> 01:18:00.453
<v ->In one more followup to Dr. Schwinn</v>

01:18:00.453 --> 01:18:02.891
for my comment I made.

01:18:02.891 --> 01:18:04.960
You said there's psychometricians

01:18:04.960 --> 01:18:06.347
who would analyzed this.

01:18:06.347 --> 01:18:08.000
And I'm understanding that this would be

01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:09.548
for school districts

01:18:09.548 --> 01:18:13.037
who are validating their texts, correct?

01:18:13.037 --> 01:18:14.786
<v ->Whoever, it would be for whichever,</v>

01:18:14.786 --> 01:18:16.337
whatever the test is.

01:18:16.337 --> 01:18:18.525
So we would look at the test unit of the test.

01:18:18.525 --> 01:18:20.112
<v ->The question is from a practical standpoint,</v>

01:18:20.112 --> 01:18:21.560
are there pools of

01:18:21.560 --> 01:18:22.941
psychometricians can find

01:18:22.941 --> 01:18:25.335
and practically reach out to

01:18:25.335 --> 01:18:26.793
or afford to do this?

01:18:26.793 --> 01:18:28.626
Would this make it

01:18:28.626 --> 01:18:29.459
practical?

01:18:30.749 --> 01:18:32.503
<v ->So I think that there's probably two answers</v>

01:18:32.503 --> 01:18:33.649
to your questions,

01:18:33.649 --> 01:18:34.651
not to complicate it.

01:18:34.651 --> 01:18:35.649
I think one, the short answer is yes.

01:18:35.649 --> 01:18:37.094
I think that what we could do as an agency

01:18:37.094 --> 01:18:39.002
to get to the second part of the question

01:18:39.002 --> 01:18:40.399
is we could certainly help

01:18:40.399 --> 01:18:42.319
to identify who those people are.

01:18:42.319 --> 01:18:44.903
So that way it doesn't take as much work

01:18:44.903 --> 01:18:46.642
for individual school districts to identify

01:18:46.642 --> 01:18:47.953
those people.

01:18:47.953 --> 01:18:49.426
We could certainly do like an agency recommended list

01:18:49.426 --> 01:18:50.259
that they could pull from

01:18:50.259 --> 01:18:51.899
as a way to keep the process a lot

01:18:51.899 --> 01:18:54.072
more helpful for them.

01:18:54.072 --> 01:18:56.160
So that's certainly a way that we could be of support.

01:18:56.160 --> 01:18:58.185
<v Dr. Ellis>Okay.</v>

01:18:58.185 --> 01:19:00.268
<v ->Yes, Ms. Melton-Malone.</v>

01:19:01.191 --> 01:19:02.271
Oh, sorry, Ms. Beltran,

01:19:02.271 --> 01:19:03.382
then Ms. Melton-Malone.

01:19:03.382 --> 01:19:04.391
Sorry, I missed

01:19:04.391 --> 01:19:05.715
Ms. Beltran.

01:19:05.715 --> 01:19:06.734
<v ->Thank you, Madam Chair.</v>

01:19:06.734 --> 01:19:08.838
And just to clarify,

01:19:08.838 --> 01:19:09.671
it would be the school district or a provider.

01:19:09.671 --> 01:19:11.984
So it wouldn't only be a school district.

01:19:11.984 --> 01:19:14.920
(inaudible)

01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:17.002
<v Ms. Bahorich>Okay, so that's your comment?</v>

01:19:17.002 --> 01:19:19.878
<v ->Well, my comment to that too is</v>

01:19:19.878 --> 01:19:20.889
the service centers

01:19:20.889 --> 01:19:22.469
provide that for,

01:19:22.469 --> 01:19:23.701
a lot of the service centers do

01:19:23.701 --> 01:19:25.282
provide that

01:19:25.282 --> 01:19:26.768
for the school districts.

01:19:26.768 --> 01:19:29.435
So that would be another option.

01:19:30.961 --> 01:19:33.299
<v Ms. Beltran>This may be a stupid question,</v>

01:19:33.299 --> 01:19:35.358
and you may have answered this already,

01:19:35.358 --> 01:19:36.749
there's no such thing as a--

01:19:36.749 --> 01:19:38.071
<v ->Yeah, there's no such thing as a stupid question.</v>

01:19:38.071 --> 01:19:39.404
Okay, well here,

01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:42.609
why would a student

01:19:42.609 --> 01:19:44.861
not just be able to take an end of course exam

01:19:44.861 --> 01:19:46.361
for course credit?

01:19:47.407 --> 01:19:49.240
Why does it have to be

01:19:51.567 --> 01:19:52.914
a CBE?

01:19:52.914 --> 01:19:53.747
<v ->So</v>

01:19:55.659 --> 01:19:57.409
the STAAR assessments,

01:19:58.292 --> 01:20:00.036
as I think many of you

01:20:00.036 --> 01:20:01.913
are well aware,

01:20:01.913 --> 01:20:05.580
do not test every single assessable standard

01:20:07.021 --> 01:20:09.828
at every single administration.

01:20:09.828 --> 01:20:11.622
So we've got a variety of limitations.

01:20:11.622 --> 01:20:14.621
The most recent of which was that there is

01:20:14.621 --> 01:20:16.681
a statutorily required time,

01:20:16.681 --> 01:20:19.567
amount of time that a student,

01:20:19.567 --> 01:20:21.863
a time limit on how long

01:20:21.863 --> 01:20:23.083
the student takes the test.

01:20:23.083 --> 01:20:26.013
So I think many of you have heard of

01:20:26.013 --> 01:20:28.479
readiness versus supporting standards.

01:20:28.479 --> 01:20:29.901
And the way that those standards

01:20:29.901 --> 01:20:31.904
are assessed on the STAAR assessment

01:20:31.904 --> 01:20:33.404
would include EOC.

01:20:34.567 --> 01:20:36.320
So the idea of Credit by Exam

01:20:36.320 --> 01:20:39.245
and this issue, I think, came up yesterday

01:20:39.245 --> 01:20:40.872
in the committee discussion was

01:20:40.872 --> 01:20:43.424
it is a more comprehensive test

01:20:43.424 --> 01:20:44.913
because it is intended to cover

01:20:44.913 --> 01:20:46.895
more of the content

01:20:46.895 --> 01:20:48.925
than what we currently cover

01:20:48.925 --> 01:20:50.941
in our end of course assessments.

01:20:50.941 --> 01:20:52.157
So there is,

01:20:52.157 --> 01:20:53.559
there is a distinction

01:20:53.559 --> 01:20:54.559
in that way.

01:20:56.313 --> 01:20:57.146
Yeah.

01:20:58.874 --> 01:21:00.814
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes, Ms. Cargill.</v>

01:21:00.814 --> 01:21:02.168
<v ->Did we ever get back to the motion</v>

01:21:02.168 --> 01:21:04.224
you wanted to insert?

01:21:04.224 --> 01:21:05.057
<v Ms. Bahorich>Not yet.</v>
<v ->What was that?</v>

01:21:05.057 --> 01:21:06.025
<v Ms. Bahorich>I just wanted to make sure this</v>

01:21:06.025 --> 01:21:07.361
had been cleared up before

01:21:07.361 --> 01:21:08.360
cause mine's kind of

01:21:08.360 --> 01:21:09.709
a little different.

01:21:09.709 --> 01:21:10.711
<v ->Forget that.</v>

01:21:10.711 --> 01:21:11.828
Okay.

01:21:11.828 --> 01:21:13.561
<v ->Okay, so the motion that I figured out</v>

01:21:13.561 --> 01:21:15.454
that we could insert

01:21:15.454 --> 01:21:16.934
that I believe would address it

01:21:16.934 --> 01:21:18.379
and please correct me if I'm wrong,

01:21:18.379 --> 01:21:20.019
if we're on the first page.

01:21:20.019 --> 01:21:21.679
It's A four,

01:21:21.679 --> 01:21:24.085
that it would now say

01:21:24.085 --> 01:21:25.483
a school district must have the approval

01:21:25.483 --> 01:21:28.460
of the school district board of trustees

01:21:28.460 --> 01:21:31.116
and insert for the development

01:21:31.116 --> 01:21:33.011
and use of it's own tests.

01:21:33.011 --> 01:21:33.844
Sorry.

01:21:35.406 --> 01:21:36.771
I guess the insert.

01:21:36.771 --> 01:21:38.808
Well, I'll just read the whole thing.

01:21:38.808 --> 01:21:39.808
Did you see.

01:21:39.808 --> 01:21:40.831
Okay.

01:21:40.831 --> 01:21:41.872
Sorry.

01:21:41.872 --> 01:21:42.918
Let me do a restart.

01:21:42.918 --> 01:21:44.469
That's what I get for making my own amendments right now.

01:21:44.469 --> 01:21:46.881
So A five would say,

01:21:46.881 --> 01:21:48.886
A four would say

01:21:48.886 --> 01:21:50.821
a school district must have the approval

01:21:50.821 --> 01:21:52.861
of the school district board of trustees

01:21:52.861 --> 01:21:54.271
for the development

01:21:54.271 --> 01:21:55.828
and use of it's own tests,

01:21:55.828 --> 01:21:58.181
or to purchase examinations

01:21:58.181 --> 01:21:59.777
that thoroughly

01:21:59.777 --> 01:22:01.637
test the essential knowledge and skills

01:22:01.637 --> 01:22:03.623
in the applicable grade level

01:22:03.623 --> 01:22:05.468
or subject area.

01:22:05.468 --> 01:22:06.958
So the insertion is

01:22:06.958 --> 01:22:09.541
for the development and use of.

01:22:11.710 --> 01:22:13.110
(inaudible)

01:22:13.110 --> 01:22:14.193
That's right.

01:22:15.196 --> 01:22:17.029
As strike two develop.

01:22:20.387 --> 01:22:21.549
(inaudible)

01:22:21.549 --> 01:22:22.466
Any second?

01:22:24.928 --> 01:22:26.381
Okay.

01:22:26.381 --> 01:22:27.865
Yeah, absolutely.

01:22:27.865 --> 01:22:28.883
(inaudible)

01:22:28.883 --> 01:22:29.963
Yeah, yeah.

01:22:29.963 --> 01:22:31.353
<v Woman>Okay.</v>

01:22:31.353 --> 01:22:32.671
<v ->Ms. Perez.</v>

01:22:32.671 --> 01:22:33.504
<v ->So,</v>

01:22:35.010 --> 01:22:36.417
I know that we're gonna go in another circle here,

01:22:36.417 --> 01:22:39.015
but what I'm hearing is that

01:22:39.015 --> 01:22:41.164
our trustees are gonna make decisions

01:22:41.164 --> 01:22:41.997
that,

01:22:44.378 --> 01:22:45.791
and I've never been a trustee,

01:22:45.791 --> 01:22:47.332
so I don't mean to speak for them but,

01:22:47.332 --> 01:22:50.260
do our trustees feel comfortable

01:22:50.260 --> 01:22:51.967
making these kinds of decisions?

01:22:51.967 --> 01:22:53.772
And if this is something that TEA does

01:22:53.772 --> 01:22:55.462
and they want psychometricians involved,

01:22:55.462 --> 01:22:56.663
and they want validation,

01:22:56.663 --> 01:22:57.752
and they want audit,

01:22:57.752 --> 01:22:59.237
and et cetera, et cetera.

01:22:59.237 --> 01:23:03.162
If there's this kind of weight on it on one side,

01:23:03.162 --> 01:23:07.245
why is it not equally weighted on the other side?

01:23:08.645 --> 01:23:09.770
And if that's the case,

01:23:09.770 --> 01:23:10.868
then maybe it doesn't need to be so heavy

01:23:10.868 --> 01:23:12.118
on either side.

01:23:15.168 --> 01:23:16.167
<v Ms. Bahorich>I guess I'm</v>

01:23:16.167 --> 01:23:17.569
not sure what you,

01:23:17.569 --> 01:23:19.652
what you're saying there.

01:23:24.727 --> 01:23:25.812
<v ->In A four, you're saying</v>

01:23:25.812 --> 01:23:27.334
trustees approve

01:23:27.334 --> 01:23:30.293
(interposing voices speaking)

01:23:30.293 --> 01:23:32.770
<v ->It's an external validation</v>

01:23:32.770 --> 01:23:36.009
cause we're asking them to do external validation.

01:23:36.009 --> 01:23:37.914
And so it seems like to me

01:23:37.914 --> 01:23:39.545
that the board of trustees

01:23:39.545 --> 01:23:40.571
would be interested.

01:23:40.571 --> 01:23:41.693
If you're gonna approve the use of the test,

01:23:41.693 --> 01:23:42.941
they would be involved in that

01:23:42.941 --> 01:23:45.845
process of how are we gonna meet the rules of this test

01:23:45.845 --> 01:23:47.262
according to the,

01:23:48.308 --> 01:23:50.227
be involved in that development too.

01:23:50.227 --> 01:23:52.572
<v ->So on one side, we're saying do you approve this.</v>

01:23:52.572 --> 01:23:54.429
I think probably people are comfortable

01:23:54.429 --> 01:23:56.364
saying yes, we approve our district

01:23:56.364 --> 01:23:57.666
doing something like that.

01:23:57.666 --> 01:23:58.754
But on the other side,

01:23:58.754 --> 01:24:00.293
we're asking trustees to approve an audit process

01:24:00.293 --> 01:24:03.067
to be completed for assessment,

01:24:03.067 --> 01:24:05.265
assessments for acceleration.

01:24:05.265 --> 01:24:06.682
And I'm wondering

01:24:07.850 --> 01:24:09.842
do, I mean we have two, I know of,

01:24:09.842 --> 01:24:11.315
at least two trustees sitting here.

01:24:11.315 --> 01:24:14.114
Do our trustees feel comfortable saying

01:24:14.114 --> 01:24:15.455
yes, this is a good audit process

01:24:15.455 --> 01:24:18.243
that we should be using?

01:24:18.243 --> 01:24:20.496
Because our districts are saying psychometricians

01:24:20.496 --> 01:24:22.548
are not the easiest people to get to.

01:24:22.548 --> 01:24:23.381
It's not,

01:24:24.292 --> 01:24:25.835
it's not always accessible.

01:24:25.835 --> 01:24:27.778
It does cause a delay.

01:24:27.778 --> 01:24:29.647
It is an extra step that,

01:24:29.647 --> 01:24:31.897
that perhaps is not needed.

01:24:33.282 --> 01:24:35.346
And so it feels very light on one side

01:24:35.346 --> 01:24:37.388
and very heavy on another.

01:24:37.388 --> 01:24:38.839
<v ->Ms. Madam,</v>

01:24:38.839 --> 01:24:40.326
(interposing voices speaking)

01:24:40.326 --> 01:24:42.993
let me see if this helps at all.

01:24:44.145 --> 01:24:45.968
Just for the members of the board

01:24:45.968 --> 01:24:47.536
who were not in the committee meeting yesterday,

01:24:47.536 --> 01:24:51.717
this language was the result of a conversation.

01:24:51.717 --> 01:24:53.525
So there was a recommendation made

01:24:53.525 --> 01:24:54.442
that, okay.

01:24:55.688 --> 01:24:57.873
So we're gonna have to go back a little bit.

01:24:57.873 --> 01:25:00.373
On A three, this audit process

01:25:01.399 --> 01:25:03.290
was added to the rule

01:25:03.290 --> 01:25:05.935
and it was specific to Texas Tech University

01:25:05.935 --> 01:25:07.228
and the University of Texas at Austin

01:25:07.228 --> 01:25:10.802
as a result of some concerns that were raised

01:25:10.802 --> 01:25:13.469
around the appropriate alignment

01:25:14.352 --> 01:25:16.408
to essential knowledge and skills.

01:25:16.408 --> 01:25:19.206
At the time that those concerns were raised,

01:25:19.206 --> 01:25:21.956
the board decided to require those two entities

01:25:21.956 --> 01:25:24.330
to complete an external audit

01:25:24.330 --> 01:25:27.041
of 20% of their exams every year

01:25:27.041 --> 01:25:29.719
and send that information to the agency.

01:25:29.719 --> 01:25:31.444
One of the things I do want to clarify

01:25:31.444 --> 01:25:32.751
is they send that to us.

01:25:32.751 --> 01:25:33.950
We provide it to you.

01:25:33.950 --> 01:25:34.966
We don't approve, disapprove.

01:25:34.966 --> 01:25:36.829
We don't comment on it.

01:25:36.829 --> 01:25:39.816
We receive it and we give it to you.

01:25:39.816 --> 01:25:44.108
There was a recommendation during the public comment period

01:25:44.108 --> 01:25:47.072
that all districts who develop their own exams

01:25:47.072 --> 01:25:51.239
be required to meet that same audit requirement

01:25:51.239 --> 01:25:54.192
that is currently in place for the two universities.

01:25:54.192 --> 01:25:56.340
The committee, after discussion,

01:25:56.340 --> 01:26:00.673
decided as opposed to requiring everyone to complete

01:26:01.684 --> 01:26:03.794
that same audit and send that to us

01:26:03.794 --> 01:26:04.948
to hand off to you,

01:26:04.948 --> 01:26:05.865
that it was

01:26:10.394 --> 01:26:12.274
the desire to ask the Board of Trustees

01:26:12.274 --> 01:26:13.828
to make sure that the district

01:26:13.828 --> 01:26:16.846
has completed some sort of auditing process.

01:26:16.846 --> 01:26:19.580
So there is a distinction

01:26:19.580 --> 01:26:21.378
between that and everything else

01:26:21.378 --> 01:26:22.758
that we've been talking about.

01:26:22.758 --> 01:26:24.308
But that's the reason that that language,

01:26:24.308 --> 01:26:25.502
as I understand it,

01:26:25.502 --> 01:26:28.262
was added by the committee.

01:26:28.262 --> 01:26:29.794
<v ->It was more about the local control,</v>

01:26:29.794 --> 01:26:32.635
of them going through this process,

01:26:32.635 --> 01:26:34.393
not having the agency do that.

01:26:34.393 --> 01:26:36.487
But that there are certain expectations

01:26:36.487 --> 01:26:38.040
in the development,

01:26:38.040 --> 01:26:39.115
in the exam,

01:26:39.115 --> 01:26:40.537
the auditing of the exam,

01:26:40.537 --> 01:26:41.900
that need to be paid attention to,

01:26:41.900 --> 01:26:43.317
external validity

01:26:44.319 --> 01:26:46.965
as required in the rules right now

01:26:46.965 --> 01:26:48.578
would be one of those

01:26:48.578 --> 01:26:50.359
components as part as the development piece.

01:26:50.359 --> 01:26:51.276
Mr. Cortez.

01:26:53.449 --> 01:26:56.573
<v ->And I guess my question on all that is,</v>

01:26:56.573 --> 01:26:58.361
in terms of that auditing,

01:26:58.361 --> 01:26:59.845
is that auditing,

01:26:59.845 --> 01:27:01.557
is the expectation that it's gonna happen in house

01:27:01.557 --> 01:27:03.736
or that we're gonna use one of these psychometricians

01:27:03.736 --> 01:27:05.379
that we are talking about.

01:27:05.379 --> 01:27:06.957
I guess are we saying that we're going,

01:27:06.957 --> 01:27:09.297
that through this language,

01:27:09.297 --> 01:27:10.832
we're gonna impose an unfunded mandate

01:27:10.832 --> 01:27:12.245
on school districts

01:27:12.245 --> 01:27:13.522
is what I want to know.

01:27:13.522 --> 01:27:15.093
Cause that's one of the things that

01:27:15.093 --> 01:27:16.770
as a school trustee,

01:27:16.770 --> 01:27:18.338
I argued about all the time.

01:27:18.338 --> 01:27:19.524
<v ->Yeah, that's not my understanding.</v>

01:27:19.524 --> 01:27:21.169
And I think that was the reason that

01:27:21.169 --> 01:27:24.734
instead of accepting the recommendation

01:27:24.734 --> 01:27:27.831
that they complete the same audit that we have here,

01:27:27.831 --> 01:27:30.081
that it be left to the district

01:27:30.081 --> 01:27:33.382
to decide the most appropriate way

01:27:33.382 --> 01:27:35.878
to complete an auditing process.

01:27:35.878 --> 01:27:38.071
So I think it was

01:27:38.071 --> 01:27:40.132
to try to minimize

01:27:40.132 --> 01:27:42.349
exactly what you just said

01:27:42.349 --> 01:27:44.098
which would likely be the case

01:27:44.098 --> 01:27:45.592
if they were added into

01:27:45.592 --> 01:27:47.175
number three above.

01:27:52.749 --> 01:27:54.690
<v ->Again, trying to say the school district</v>

01:27:54.690 --> 01:27:56.387
can determine what that looks like,

01:27:56.387 --> 01:27:57.387
both the development,

01:27:57.387 --> 01:27:58.410
the use of,

01:27:58.410 --> 01:28:00.036
as well as the auditing process.

01:28:00.036 --> 01:28:01.036
That's all--

01:28:01.036 --> 01:28:02.180
<v ->And I would add,</v>

01:28:02.180 --> 01:28:03.888
just it's probably worth mentioning

01:28:03.888 --> 01:28:07.435
that this is for districts that choose to develop

01:28:07.435 --> 01:28:09.189
their own exams.

01:28:09.189 --> 01:28:11.199
Districts who choose to use

01:28:11.199 --> 01:28:12.774
an exam from one of the universities

01:28:12.774 --> 01:28:15.441
wouldn't have to do any of this.

01:28:19.037 --> 01:28:20.059
<v ->Yeah, what are,</v>

01:28:20.059 --> 01:28:22.029
do we have any idea of numbers at all?

01:28:22.029 --> 01:28:23.488
<v ->We don't.</v>

01:28:23.488 --> 01:28:24.851
And I think we've heard,

01:28:24.851 --> 01:28:26.528
again, we've received different comments.

01:28:26.528 --> 01:28:27.763
We've heard some comments

01:28:27.763 --> 01:28:30.010
that the majority of small rural schools

01:28:30.010 --> 01:28:32.060
will use UT and Texas Tech.

01:28:32.060 --> 01:28:33.728
We've also heard that there are thousands

01:28:33.728 --> 01:28:36.167
who create their own exams.

01:28:36.167 --> 01:28:38.000
So I really can't say.

01:28:41.414 --> 01:28:42.398
(inaudible)

01:28:42.398 --> 01:28:43.640
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes, Mr. Maynard.</v>

01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:45.734
<v Mr. Maynard>Can a school district purchase a</v>

01:28:45.734 --> 01:28:48.567
test from another school district?

01:28:51.482 --> 01:28:52.978
(inaudible)

01:28:52.978 --> 01:28:54.347
<v ->So your rules says</v>

01:28:54.347 --> 01:28:56.176
that a district must have the approval

01:28:56.176 --> 01:28:57.523
of the district board of trustees

01:28:57.523 --> 01:29:01.237
to develop its own test or to purchase

01:29:01.237 --> 01:29:02.606
exams that thoroughly test

01:29:02.606 --> 01:29:04.001
essential knowledge and skills.

01:29:04.001 --> 01:29:05.627
So I would assume from this rule

01:29:05.627 --> 01:29:07.692
that if another district has a test,

01:29:07.692 --> 01:29:09.245
that that would be an option.

01:29:09.245 --> 01:29:10.243
<v ->Right.</v>

01:29:10.243 --> 01:29:11.076
Very good.

01:29:13.721 --> 01:29:14.795
<v ->Any other discussion</v>

01:29:14.795 --> 01:29:17.295
about that amendment?

01:29:17.295 --> 01:29:19.000
All those in favor, say aye.

01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:20.012
<v Group>Aye.</v>

01:29:20.012 --> 01:29:21.019
<v ->All those opposed, say no.</v>

01:29:21.019 --> 01:29:23.138
Motion is adopted.

01:29:23.138 --> 01:29:24.899
Any other recommendations for changes

01:29:24.899 --> 01:29:25.919
to the rules in front of us?

01:29:25.919 --> 01:29:27.586
Mr. Rowley, did you?

01:29:28.616 --> 01:29:29.949
That's it.

01:29:29.949 --> 01:29:31.553
Okay, now we're back.

01:29:31.553 --> 01:29:33.720
Let me find my place here.

01:29:36.568 --> 01:29:38.371
Now we're back to the motion before us

01:29:38.371 --> 01:29:39.204
which is

01:29:40.293 --> 01:29:41.848
to approve for second reading

01:29:41.848 --> 01:29:43.782
and final adoption for proposed amendments

01:29:43.782 --> 01:29:45.823
to 19 TAC Chapter 74,

01:29:45.823 --> 01:29:47.537
Curriculum Requirements, Subchapter C,

01:29:47.537 --> 01:29:48.590
Other Provisions,

01:29:48.590 --> 01:29:50.198
74.24

01:29:50.198 --> 01:29:51.581
Credit by Examination,

01:29:51.581 --> 01:29:52.928
as substituted and amended,

01:29:52.928 --> 01:29:55.600
and make an affirmative finding that

01:29:55.600 --> 01:29:58.856
immediate adoption of the proposed amendments

01:29:58.856 --> 01:30:00.352
19 TAC

01:30:00.352 --> 01:30:01.873
Chapter 74,

01:30:01.873 --> 01:30:02.892
Curriculum Requirements,

01:30:02.892 --> 01:30:03.893
Subchapter C,

01:30:03.893 --> 01:30:04.896
Other Provisions,

01:30:04.896 --> 01:30:05.896
74.24,

01:30:05.896 --> 01:30:06.913
Credit by Examination,

01:30:06.913 --> 01:30:09.087
is necessary and shall have an effective date

01:30:09.087 --> 01:30:11.002
of August 27th,

01:30:11.002 --> 01:30:11.835
2018.

01:30:13.413 --> 01:30:16.042
And we'll need to do that by a show of hands.

01:30:16.042 --> 01:30:19.625
All those in favor, please raise your hand.

01:30:22.574 --> 01:30:26.623
All those opposed, please raise your hand.

01:30:26.623 --> 01:30:27.642
Okay, the motion is adopted

01:30:27.642 --> 01:30:29.672
with the earlier effective date.

01:30:29.672 --> 01:30:31.931
Alright, moving on.

01:30:31.931 --> 01:30:33.118
<v ->[Ms. Melton-Malone] Alright.</v>

01:30:33.118 --> 01:30:34.558
And just a quick comment,

01:30:34.558 --> 01:30:36.871
we talked about yesterday.

01:30:36.871 --> 01:30:38.390
If we find out that this doesn't work,

01:30:38.390 --> 01:30:40.089
if there's some major problems

01:30:40.089 --> 01:30:41.421
in it somewhere,

01:30:41.421 --> 01:30:42.905
it's not set in concrete

01:30:42.905 --> 01:30:44.287
so we can always come back to it

01:30:44.287 --> 01:30:46.204
and work if we need to.

01:30:47.714 --> 01:30:49.214
<v ->And I think too,</v>

01:30:50.100 --> 01:30:51.840
to just support that point

01:30:51.840 --> 01:30:55.199
we made the board an active participant

01:30:55.199 --> 01:30:57.947
in this process through this rule adoption.

01:30:57.947 --> 01:30:59.344
So yes, Ms. Hardy.

01:30:59.344 --> 01:31:01.150
<v ->As an added comment to this,</v>

01:31:01.150 --> 01:31:02.776
you might think,

01:31:02.776 --> 01:31:04.129
or people listening might think

01:31:04.129 --> 01:31:05.735
that this is much ado about nothing,

01:31:05.735 --> 01:31:07.280
but I will tell you that about

01:31:07.280 --> 01:31:08.582
12 years ago,

01:31:08.582 --> 01:31:10.337
just by happenstance,

01:31:10.337 --> 01:31:14.197
we discovered that one of the entities

01:31:14.197 --> 01:31:16.135
giving the test

01:31:16.135 --> 01:31:17.481
gave to the students

01:31:17.481 --> 01:31:18.564
the old TEKS

01:31:20.955 --> 01:31:22.763
to study for the test.

01:31:22.763 --> 01:31:24.294
When you went online

01:31:24.294 --> 01:31:26.440
to find out what you're supposed to study for the test,

01:31:26.440 --> 01:31:30.105
they were using the wrong test of TEKS,

01:31:30.105 --> 01:31:31.445
which told you

01:31:31.445 --> 01:31:33.534
that they had never updated that stuff

01:31:33.534 --> 01:31:34.985
with the new TEKS.

01:31:34.985 --> 01:31:38.155
And so a lot of what is happening here

01:31:38.155 --> 01:31:40.995
is to make sure everybody stays on board

01:31:40.995 --> 01:31:43.007
with what's current

01:31:43.007 --> 01:31:44.579
in the way of

01:31:44.579 --> 01:31:45.558
standards,

01:31:45.558 --> 01:31:47.344
tests as well as standards,

01:31:47.344 --> 01:31:49.289
or standards as well as tests.

01:31:49.289 --> 01:31:50.291
It did happen.

01:31:50.291 --> 01:31:51.300
I'm positive.

01:31:51.300 --> 01:31:53.534
<v Ms. Bahorich>Good point.</v>

01:31:53.534 --> 01:31:55.946
<v ->Alright, on to page three</v>

01:31:55.946 --> 01:31:57.243
in your

01:31:57.243 --> 01:31:59.204
minutes for the Committee on Instruction.

01:31:59.204 --> 01:32:00.537
Top of the page.

01:32:02.807 --> 01:32:03.640
This is

01:32:06.029 --> 01:32:07.835
proposed amendment to 19 TAC

01:32:07.835 --> 01:32:09.000
Chapter 74,

01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:10.062
Curriculum Requirements,

01:32:10.062 --> 01:32:11.208
Subchapter C,

01:32:11.208 --> 01:32:12.613
Other Provisions,

01:32:12.613 --> 01:32:13.446
74.28,

01:32:14.453 --> 01:32:16.637
Students with Dyslexia and Related Disorders.

01:32:16.637 --> 01:32:19.007
It is your board addendum book

01:32:19.007 --> 01:32:20.007
on page 211.

01:32:22.574 --> 01:32:25.195
There is also an attachment in your minutes.

01:32:25.195 --> 01:32:26.612
It's on page nine

01:32:28.432 --> 01:32:32.497
of the changes that we added yesterday.

01:32:32.497 --> 01:32:35.595
Basically they were just kind of,

01:32:35.595 --> 01:32:38.928
there were things that just needed to be

01:32:39.811 --> 01:32:41.452
addressed and it was very

01:32:41.452 --> 01:32:42.535
minor things,

01:32:43.536 --> 01:32:44.369
such as on

01:32:45.632 --> 01:32:47.049
F, at the bottom,

01:32:51.360 --> 01:32:54.449
the team that's working on the

01:32:54.449 --> 01:32:55.661
dyslexia handbook requested,

01:32:55.661 --> 01:32:59.477
they had said identification or evaluation.

01:32:59.477 --> 01:33:01.952
And they wanted that switch

01:33:01.952 --> 01:33:04.224
from evaluation or identification.

01:33:04.224 --> 01:33:06.517
So it's just a very minor change.

01:33:06.517 --> 01:33:08.131
And some of it was just,

01:33:08.131 --> 01:33:10.964
there was one instance, I believe,

01:33:14.031 --> 01:33:15.363
where

01:33:15.363 --> 01:33:19.006
we had forgotten to put in response to intervention.

01:33:19.006 --> 01:33:20.328
So they were very minor changes.

01:33:20.328 --> 01:33:21.930
And

01:33:21.930 --> 01:33:26.776
the testifiers were very acceptable to the changes.

01:33:26.776 --> 01:33:28.699
So, on behalf of the Committee on Instruction,

01:33:28.699 --> 01:33:30.888
I move that the State Board of Education

01:33:30.888 --> 01:33:32.370
approve for second reading

01:33:32.370 --> 01:33:33.873
and filing adoption the proposed amendment

01:33:33.873 --> 01:33:34.706
to 19 TAC,

01:33:35.600 --> 01:33:37.187
Chapter 74,

01:33:37.187 --> 01:33:38.246
Curriculum Requirements,

01:33:38.246 --> 01:33:39.336
Subchapter C,

01:33:39.336 --> 01:33:40.347
Other Provisions,

01:33:40.347 --> 01:33:41.180
74.28,

01:33:42.113 --> 01:33:45.224
Students with Dyslexia and Related Disorders,

01:33:45.224 --> 01:33:46.372
as substituted,

01:33:46.372 --> 01:33:48.146
and make an affirmative finding

01:33:48.146 --> 01:33:49.976
that immediate adoption

01:33:49.976 --> 01:33:51.227
of the proposed amendment to 19 TAC,

01:33:51.227 --> 01:33:52.144
Chapter 74,

01:33:53.375 --> 01:33:54.801
Curriculum Requirements,

01:33:54.801 --> 01:33:56.150
Subchapter C,

01:33:56.150 --> 01:33:57.447
Other Provisions,

01:33:57.447 --> 01:33:58.280
74.28,

01:33:59.450 --> 01:34:01.931
Students with Dyslexia and Related Disorders

01:34:01.931 --> 01:34:04.997
is necessary and shall have an effective date

01:34:04.997 --> 01:34:06.747
of August 27th, 2018.

01:34:11.778 --> 01:34:13.118
<v ->So the motion before us</v>

01:34:13.118 --> 01:34:14.951
needs a show of hands.

01:34:16.580 --> 01:34:21.005
So all those in favor, please raise your hand.

01:34:21.005 --> 01:34:23.653
All those opposed, raise your hand.

01:34:23.653 --> 01:34:25.251
The motion is adopted with the

01:34:25.251 --> 01:34:27.554
earlier effective date.

01:34:27.554 --> 01:34:28.766
Alright.

01:34:28.766 --> 01:34:30.011
<v Monica>Madam chair.</v>

01:34:30.011 --> 01:34:31.198
<v ->Sorry.</v>

01:34:31.198 --> 01:34:33.558
<v ->If I may, I just wanted to provide one clarification</v>

01:34:33.558 --> 01:34:36.141
for, again members of the board

01:34:37.051 --> 01:34:38.649
who were not in the committee yesterday.

01:34:38.649 --> 01:34:40.482
So concurrent with the

01:34:41.506 --> 01:34:43.744
amendments to the dyslexia rules,

01:34:43.744 --> 01:34:45.484
as I think you're all aware,

01:34:45.484 --> 01:34:47.171
we are working with some committees

01:34:47.171 --> 01:34:49.406
to update the dyslexia handbook.

01:34:49.406 --> 01:34:51.355
There were several comments

01:34:51.355 --> 01:34:52.947
that were received

01:34:52.947 --> 01:34:54.508
and testimony that was provided

01:34:54.508 --> 01:34:56.127
that asked the board to consider

01:34:56.127 --> 01:34:58.590
incorporating the handbook

01:34:58.590 --> 01:35:01.060
into the administrative rule.

01:35:01.060 --> 01:35:03.605
Currently, it is just a separate document.

01:35:03.605 --> 01:35:06.469
My understanding is that there's some support

01:35:06.469 --> 01:35:08.370
for that notion

01:35:08.370 --> 01:35:10.408
by the Committee on Instruction.

01:35:10.408 --> 01:35:13.142
But we wanted to make sure that

01:35:13.142 --> 01:35:14.635
you had an opportunity

01:35:14.635 --> 01:35:17.341
to approve the updates to the handbook

01:35:17.341 --> 01:35:22.053
before considering incorporating that into the rules

01:35:22.053 --> 01:35:24.099
so that the more recent language

01:35:24.099 --> 01:35:25.749
would be in the rule.

01:35:25.749 --> 01:35:29.906
And so we will be taking steps to finalize this

01:35:29.906 --> 01:35:32.991
and are anticipating that this item

01:35:32.991 --> 01:35:35.015
will likely come back onto your agenda

01:35:35.015 --> 01:35:36.327
in the near future

01:35:36.327 --> 01:35:39.810
so that you can consider that additional adjustment.

01:35:39.810 --> 01:35:42.281
I just didn't want folks to think that that was

01:35:42.281 --> 01:35:44.720
something that was glossed over.

01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:49.163
We're just trying to work out the right timing for that.

01:35:49.163 --> 01:35:51.208
<v Ms. Bahorich>Alright, next one.</v>

01:35:51.208 --> 01:35:52.549
<v ->Alright.</v>

01:35:52.549 --> 01:35:55.132
And number three on page three.

01:35:58.217 --> 01:36:00.630
This is the proposed repeal of 19 TAC

01:36:00.630 --> 01:36:01.969
Chapter 113,

01:36:01.969 --> 01:36:03.833
Texas Essential Knowledge

01:36:03.833 --> 01:36:05.007
and Skills for Social Studies,

01:36:05.007 --> 01:36:06.188
Subchapter D,

01:36:06.188 --> 01:36:07.196
Other Social Studies Courses,

01:36:07.196 --> 01:36:08.029
113.69,

01:36:08.933 --> 01:36:11.148
Other Courses for Which Students

01:36:11.148 --> 01:36:12.775
May Receive Social Studies Credit,

01:36:12.775 --> 01:36:14.353
and 113.70, Concurrent Enrollment

01:36:14.353 --> 01:36:16.149
in College Courses.

01:36:16.149 --> 01:36:17.704
It's in your Board Agenda book

01:36:17.704 --> 01:36:18.537
on 219.

01:36:20.357 --> 01:36:22.390
Madam Chair, on behalf of the Committee on Instruction,

01:36:22.390 --> 01:36:24.002
I move that the State Board of Education

01:36:24.002 --> 01:36:25.646
suspend the board operating procedures

01:36:25.646 --> 01:36:27.146
in accordance with

01:36:28.108 --> 01:36:29.605
5.2A to allow consideration

01:36:29.605 --> 01:36:32.638
at first reading and filing authorization

01:36:32.638 --> 01:36:36.026
and approve for first reading and filing authorization

01:36:36.026 --> 01:36:38.919
the proposed repeal of 19 TAC,

01:36:38.919 --> 01:36:40.684
Chapter 113,

01:36:40.684 --> 01:36:42.124
Texas Essential Knowledge,

01:36:42.124 --> 01:36:44.816
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

01:36:44.816 --> 01:36:45.947
for Social Studies,

01:36:45.947 --> 01:36:47.166
Subchapter D,

01:36:47.166 --> 01:36:50.407
Other Social Studies Courses, 113.69,

01:36:50.407 --> 01:36:54.346
Other Courses for Which Students May Receive

01:36:54.346 --> 01:36:55.750
Social Studies Credit,

01:36:55.750 --> 01:36:57.151
and 113.70,

01:36:57.151 --> 01:37:01.191
Concurrent Enrollment in College Courses.

01:37:01.191 --> 01:37:03.147
<v ->And members, we will need a show of hands on this</v>

01:37:03.147 --> 01:37:04.502
and need two thirds vote

01:37:04.502 --> 01:37:07.714
because we are suspending the board operating procedures.

01:37:07.714 --> 01:37:09.062
All those in favor, please,

01:37:09.062 --> 01:37:11.345
I'm sorry, Ms. Hardy.

01:37:11.345 --> 01:37:13.391
<v ->Could I ask an explanation</v>

01:37:13.391 --> 01:37:16.080
of what exactly it's saying?

01:37:16.080 --> 01:37:18.754
(laughter)

01:37:18.754 --> 01:37:19.820
<v ->Yes, Ms. Hardy.</v>

01:37:19.820 --> 01:37:21.994
So staff has realized that there's a need

01:37:21.994 --> 01:37:24.343
for cleanup in your social studies TEKS.

01:37:24.343 --> 01:37:26.706
In particular, there's a reference.

01:37:26.706 --> 01:37:28.939
The first section that we recommend repealing,

01:37:28.939 --> 01:37:31.432
there's a reference to a Languages

01:37:31.432 --> 01:37:33.035
Other Than English course

01:37:33.035 --> 01:37:34.295
that was eliminated

01:37:34.295 --> 01:37:36.699
during the review a few years back.

01:37:36.699 --> 01:37:38.441
And then the second section

01:37:38.441 --> 01:37:41.274
is specifying the amount of credit

01:37:42.143 --> 01:37:44.357
that can be awarded for a dual credit,

01:37:44.357 --> 01:37:45.903
or a concurrent enrollment course.

01:37:45.903 --> 01:37:47.534
And it actually

01:37:47.534 --> 01:37:50.637
contradicts your rules on award of credit.

01:37:50.637 --> 01:37:53.432
And so to avoid that contradiction,

01:37:53.432 --> 01:37:55.161
we recommend repealing that.

01:37:55.161 --> 01:37:56.306
<v ->It's just simply a cleanup of--</v>

01:37:56.306 --> 01:37:57.349
<v Ms. Ramos>Yes ma'am.</v>

01:37:57.349 --> 01:37:58.849
<v ->Okay, thank you.</v>

01:38:02.173 --> 01:38:04.521
(laughter)

01:38:04.521 --> 01:38:06.258
<v ->Absolutely.</v>

01:38:06.258 --> 01:38:08.217
And so all those in favor

01:38:08.217 --> 01:38:11.517
of the motion, please raise your hand.

01:38:11.517 --> 01:38:13.451
All those opposed, please your hands.

01:38:13.451 --> 01:38:14.951
Motion is adopted.

01:38:17.623 --> 01:38:18.681
<v ->[Ms. Melton-Malone] That's all I have, Madam Chair.</v>

01:38:18.681 --> 01:38:19.997
<v ->Okay, thanks.</v>

01:38:19.997 --> 01:38:21.259
Suspend board rules.

01:38:21.259 --> 01:38:22.319
Okay.

01:38:22.319 --> 01:38:23.654
Next, Committee on School Finance,

01:38:23.654 --> 01:38:25.487
Permanent School Fund.

01:38:26.465 --> 01:38:27.906
<v ->Thank you, Madam Chair.</v>

01:38:27.906 --> 01:38:32.114
Pretty much everything went on the Consent Agenda

01:38:32.114 --> 01:38:34.369
except for one item,

01:38:34.369 --> 01:38:36.636
which I'm gonna save at the end.

01:38:36.636 --> 01:38:38.816
Just a little clarification and some information.

01:38:38.816 --> 01:38:41.983
Board, we have been diligently working

01:38:42.910 --> 01:38:46.678
on funding our real estate portfolio,

01:38:46.678 --> 01:38:50.078
which is one of the asset classes within the fund.

01:38:50.078 --> 01:38:52.571
And apparently, we're working at a rate

01:38:52.571 --> 01:38:55.321
of about 75 to 100 million a pop.

01:38:56.669 --> 01:38:58.175
Big numbers.

01:38:58.175 --> 01:39:01.971
We did authorize, and it was on your Consent Agenda,

01:39:01.971 --> 01:39:04.597
75 million into one fund

01:39:04.597 --> 01:39:08.048
and 19 to complement another one.

01:39:08.048 --> 01:39:10.268
What was interesting is our fund

01:39:10.268 --> 01:39:14.136
is now participating in a project in Europe.

01:39:14.136 --> 01:39:16.625
And this is an English company.

01:39:16.625 --> 01:39:19.458
We're investing 51 million pounds,

01:39:20.903 --> 01:39:22.999
so we had to change our language.

01:39:22.999 --> 01:39:24.395
Euros, I'm sorry.

01:39:24.395 --> 01:39:26.019
Euros.

01:39:26.019 --> 01:39:28.602
That third currency over there.

01:39:29.462 --> 01:39:32.665
It's kind of an interesting investment.

01:39:32.665 --> 01:39:35.859
This group is going to be working

01:39:35.859 --> 01:39:38.730
strictly in student housing.

01:39:38.730 --> 01:39:40.008
Now we're all familiar with it

01:39:40.008 --> 01:39:41.967
because we have dormitories across the street.

01:39:41.967 --> 01:39:43.725
And we have student apartments

01:39:43.725 --> 01:39:45.721
and even more recently,

01:39:45.721 --> 01:39:48.578
student housing now is they'll build an apartment complex

01:39:48.578 --> 01:39:50.687
and put in four bedrooms and four baths

01:39:50.687 --> 01:39:54.696
with common living areas and kitchen areas.

01:39:54.696 --> 01:39:57.538
And you actually just lease out the bedrooms.

01:39:57.538 --> 01:39:58.787
It's common over here.

01:39:58.787 --> 01:40:00.133
Over there, they were telling us

01:40:00.133 --> 01:40:01.337
that it's not.

01:40:01.337 --> 01:40:02.525
Traditionally,

01:40:02.525 --> 01:40:04.713
everybody lives in single family homes

01:40:04.713 --> 01:40:05.835
or with families,

01:40:05.835 --> 01:40:07.432
rent bedrooms.

01:40:07.432 --> 01:40:08.891
The issue that they're having over there

01:40:08.891 --> 01:40:09.958
with the universities

01:40:09.958 --> 01:40:11.637
is they're having a lot of foreign students

01:40:11.637 --> 01:40:13.299
that are traveling into Europe

01:40:13.299 --> 01:40:15.123
to attend the universities.

01:40:15.123 --> 01:40:17.527
And there are no families and cousins

01:40:17.527 --> 01:40:19.170
and relatives.

01:40:19.170 --> 01:40:20.531
And so they see an opportunity.

01:40:20.531 --> 01:40:21.587
Only three,

01:40:21.587 --> 01:40:22.587
what was it?

01:40:23.773 --> 01:40:24.777
3% of the housing

01:40:24.777 --> 01:40:27.018
is available off campus.

01:40:27.018 --> 01:40:29.585
So apparently this investor group

01:40:29.585 --> 01:40:31.921
sees an opportunity to get into that market.

01:40:31.921 --> 01:40:34.337
So we're going to participate

01:40:34.337 --> 01:40:36.840
to the tune of 51 million Euros.

01:40:36.840 --> 01:40:39.840
We're gonna be a leader on that one.

01:40:41.151 --> 01:40:43.340
Additionally, fund guarantee program,

01:40:43.340 --> 01:40:47.119
I think we're proud of the fact that our charters

01:40:47.119 --> 01:40:50.778
are now saving something like 10 to 11 million dollars

01:40:50.778 --> 01:40:54.695
in interest costs by using our bond guarantees.

01:40:55.948 --> 01:40:56.957
Those are dollars that are staying in the classroom

01:40:56.957 --> 01:41:00.823
and not going in the pockets of Wall Street.

01:41:00.823 --> 01:41:03.347
By default, our bond guarantee program

01:41:03.347 --> 01:41:06.901
has increased its capacity by 20%

01:41:06.901 --> 01:41:08.869
we have the ability to veto that,

01:41:08.869 --> 01:41:10.873
but no recommendation was made,

01:41:10.873 --> 01:41:12.496
so the bond guarantee program

01:41:12.496 --> 01:41:14.896
has expanded it's capacity.

01:41:14.896 --> 01:41:16.924
I don't think we'll be revisiting this issue

01:41:16.924 --> 01:41:18.091
any time soon.

01:41:19.584 --> 01:41:21.667
Last item is an action item.

01:41:21.667 --> 01:41:24.630
And I'm going to hand that off to

01:41:24.630 --> 01:41:26.963
our vice chair, Mr. Maynard.

01:41:30.076 --> 01:41:32.094
<v ->Thank you Mr. Chair.</v>

01:41:32.094 --> 01:41:34.952
Last session, we had some discussion about

01:41:34.952 --> 01:41:37.035
sort of a branding issue.

01:41:38.597 --> 01:41:40.339
One of the things that we've discovered,

01:41:40.339 --> 01:41:41.740
and I think that many of you discovered

01:41:41.740 --> 01:41:43.622
as you travel about,

01:41:43.622 --> 01:41:45.391
that the vast majority of Texans

01:41:45.391 --> 01:41:46.984
really don't know very much about

01:41:46.984 --> 01:41:49.290
the Permanent School Fund.

01:41:49.290 --> 01:41:51.203
And I think one of our issues is

01:41:51.203 --> 01:41:53.668
that when we post things out on social media,

01:41:53.668 --> 01:41:55.343
when we do things

01:41:55.343 --> 01:41:59.199
is that there's just not any sort of brand or logo

01:41:59.199 --> 01:42:01.803
that really is associated with that.

01:42:01.803 --> 01:42:03.487
It's somehow sort of embedded

01:42:03.487 --> 01:42:04.904
somewhere in TEA.

01:42:06.188 --> 01:42:09.524
And people don't necessarily identify it

01:42:09.524 --> 01:42:12.273
with being part of the State Board of Education.

01:42:12.273 --> 01:42:13.274
And so,

01:42:13.274 --> 01:42:16.110
as we discussed last time,

01:42:16.110 --> 01:42:19.318
is that one of the things that we thought

01:42:19.318 --> 01:42:20.342
that we would do is

01:42:20.342 --> 01:42:22.559
that we needed to have something that represented

01:42:22.559 --> 01:42:24.726
the Permanent School Fund.

01:42:25.786 --> 01:42:28.459
And if nothing else, when you go into their offices,

01:42:28.459 --> 01:42:30.724
there's just this type of Permanent School Fund.

01:42:30.724 --> 01:42:31.891
There's no art work.

01:42:31.891 --> 01:42:33.094
I go into a lot of other offices,

01:42:33.094 --> 01:42:34.744
there's a big logo on the wall

01:42:34.744 --> 01:42:35.750
or something like that.

01:42:35.750 --> 01:42:36.807
That sort of identifies that.

01:42:36.807 --> 01:42:39.743
Certainly, we could employ

01:42:39.743 --> 01:42:42.576
the services of some professional,

01:42:43.843 --> 01:42:46.327
but I would tell you that there are

01:42:46.327 --> 01:42:49.267
thousands of aspiring young artists

01:42:49.267 --> 01:42:51.054
who are in our classrooms

01:42:51.054 --> 01:42:52.415
across the state of Texas.

01:42:52.415 --> 01:42:54.547
And why not have a student competition

01:42:54.547 --> 01:42:57.290
and give a student the opportunity

01:42:57.290 --> 01:42:59.006
to leave a legacy,

01:42:59.006 --> 01:43:00.242
here in Austin

01:43:00.242 --> 01:43:02.489
and in the state,

01:43:02.489 --> 01:43:05.943
and to get a leg up on their career.

01:43:05.943 --> 01:43:09.467
So this is the Brand the Fund student competition.

01:43:09.467 --> 01:43:12.217
And you should find this document

01:43:13.102 --> 01:43:14.852
that is on your desk.

01:43:18.065 --> 01:43:19.257
So the thing that we need to do today,

01:43:19.257 --> 01:43:21.471
this board does need to, there's some procedures

01:43:21.471 --> 01:43:22.721
and some rules.

01:43:23.720 --> 01:43:26.005
And so the board does need to adopt those

01:43:26.005 --> 01:43:27.338
to be officially

01:43:28.593 --> 01:43:31.463
part of what we're doing on the board.

01:43:31.463 --> 01:43:32.954
And I just,

01:43:32.954 --> 01:43:35.066
I'm not gonna read through all of these,

01:43:35.066 --> 01:43:36.904
but I'm gonna kind of run through to hit the highlights

01:43:36.904 --> 01:43:39.612
and a few of the things that we need to get done.

01:43:39.612 --> 01:43:41.175
Okay.

01:43:41.175 --> 01:43:44.865
The first item behind the Brand the Fund logo

01:43:44.865 --> 01:43:47.466
is the procedural document.

01:43:47.466 --> 01:43:49.033
The first thing

01:43:49.033 --> 01:43:49.950
is is that,

01:43:51.918 --> 01:43:54.501
is the 3,000 dollar cash award.

01:43:55.630 --> 01:43:58.066
And when we first began this discussion,

01:43:58.066 --> 01:43:59.741
we really began it

01:43:59.741 --> 01:44:02.433
in the context of a scholarship.

01:44:02.433 --> 01:44:05.217
One thing that I have discovered,

01:44:05.217 --> 01:44:07.273
and over the years of running

01:44:07.273 --> 01:44:08.742
a student programs,

01:44:08.742 --> 01:44:10.457
is the teachers get really excited

01:44:10.457 --> 01:44:13.142
when their students have the opportunity

01:44:13.142 --> 01:44:14.848
to receive scholarships.

01:44:14.848 --> 01:44:16.508
It does a lot to validate

01:44:16.508 --> 01:44:18.925
the work that they are doing.

01:44:20.097 --> 01:44:21.864
So we started

01:44:21.864 --> 01:44:23.364
with that premise,

01:44:24.505 --> 01:44:26.160
but later in the discussion,

01:44:26.160 --> 01:44:28.537
I think that where the discussion went is

01:44:28.537 --> 01:44:30.179
that well if you have a student,

01:44:30.179 --> 01:44:33.413
maybe you have a student who is concurrently

01:44:33.413 --> 01:44:34.960
earning an associates degree

01:44:34.960 --> 01:44:38.728
and they intend to go into the workforce directly

01:44:38.728 --> 01:44:39.727
after high school,

01:44:39.727 --> 01:44:41.662
if they go into the military,

01:44:41.662 --> 01:44:43.639
there could be a lot of complications where

01:44:43.639 --> 01:44:45.904
perhaps that student wouldn't necessarily

01:44:45.904 --> 01:44:47.659
have the opportunity to claim

01:44:47.659 --> 01:44:48.576
that prize.

01:44:49.521 --> 01:44:51.442
And so we have converted that to a

01:44:51.442 --> 01:44:53.666
3,000 dollar cash award.

01:44:53.666 --> 01:44:55.628
They can use it for college.

01:44:55.628 --> 01:44:57.116
The other benefit of that is

01:44:57.116 --> 01:44:58.520
that if,

01:44:58.520 --> 01:45:01.408
if we did that in a form of a scholarship,

01:45:01.408 --> 01:45:05.741
that conceivably a sophomore student could win it,

01:45:05.741 --> 01:45:07.163
and someone is gonna have to keep that

01:45:07.163 --> 01:45:08.442
on their balance sheet

01:45:08.442 --> 01:45:09.843
for multiple years

01:45:09.843 --> 01:45:11.319
and be part of their audit.

01:45:11.319 --> 01:45:13.544
And so by making it a cash award,

01:45:13.544 --> 01:45:14.991
it becomes a lot cleaner.

01:45:14.991 --> 01:45:17.697
And the term of that becomes a lot shorter.

01:45:17.697 --> 01:45:19.291
So we collect the money.

01:45:19.291 --> 01:45:21.024
And we disperse the money

01:45:21.024 --> 01:45:22.946
in February 1st

01:45:22.946 --> 01:45:24.026
of 2019,

01:45:24.026 --> 01:45:27.233
and the deal is done and the account is closed.

01:45:27.233 --> 01:45:29.285
Now, the other wrinkle in that is

01:45:29.285 --> 01:45:31.305
that where do we find the money?

01:45:31.305 --> 01:45:32.941
Well we can't actually

01:45:32.941 --> 01:45:35.587
use state funds or public funds to do that.

01:45:35.587 --> 01:45:38.166
So it would be incumbent that

01:45:38.166 --> 01:45:41.133
on this board then to raise the money.

01:45:41.133 --> 01:45:42.149
And by the way,

01:45:42.149 --> 01:45:44.088
where we raise the money does matter.

01:45:44.088 --> 01:45:45.945
We cannot solicit funds from

01:45:45.945 --> 01:45:48.771
someone who does business in front of this board.

01:45:48.771 --> 01:45:50.104
For instance, Pearson Publishing

01:45:50.104 --> 01:45:51.584
would not be eligible to

01:45:51.584 --> 01:45:52.784
contribute that.

01:45:52.784 --> 01:45:54.194
They have business in

01:45:54.194 --> 01:45:55.443
front of the board.

01:45:55.443 --> 01:45:58.461
And so what we are hoping is that,

01:45:58.461 --> 01:45:59.750
and by the way,

01:45:59.750 --> 01:46:01.520
now we started at a 3,000 dollar cash award,

01:46:01.520 --> 01:46:03.906
pursuant to the committee.

01:46:03.906 --> 01:46:05.748
Yesterday, we decided to go ahead

01:46:05.748 --> 01:46:08.563
and put a 1,000 dollar runner up award.

01:46:08.563 --> 01:46:09.896
And that gives--

01:46:11.029 --> 01:46:13.226
(inaudible)

01:46:13.226 --> 01:46:15.318
it doubles their chances, that sort of thing.

01:46:15.318 --> 01:46:16.151
And so,

01:46:17.025 --> 01:46:20.096
so it would be up to us to raise about

01:46:20.096 --> 01:46:21.263
4,000 dollars.

01:46:23.287 --> 01:46:25.535
There is an issue of excess funds.

01:46:25.535 --> 01:46:27.383
And if this thing goes well,

01:46:27.383 --> 01:46:28.970
and we have some excess funds.

01:46:28.970 --> 01:46:32.033
One thing we did put some provision in there

01:46:32.033 --> 01:46:33.736
is now the Texas Leader Center,

01:46:33.736 --> 01:46:35.725
which is an arm,

01:46:35.725 --> 01:46:37.558
the 501C3 arm of TASA,

01:46:41.373 --> 01:46:42.733
has agreed to house the funds.

01:46:42.733 --> 01:46:44.316
And so it is 501C3.

01:46:45.624 --> 01:46:47.361
So if somebody makes a contribution to a C3,

01:46:47.361 --> 01:46:51.247
it is my understanding that it would be tax deductible.

01:46:51.247 --> 01:46:52.761
It would be a charitable gift.

01:46:52.761 --> 01:46:53.844
We have also,

01:46:55.179 --> 01:46:57.351
if there are excess funds is that

01:46:57.351 --> 01:46:59.263
we've given them the opportunity

01:46:59.263 --> 01:47:00.989
to retain a little bit of that,

01:47:00.989 --> 01:47:02.061
up to,

01:47:02.061 --> 01:47:03.980
no more than 250 dollars,

01:47:03.980 --> 01:47:05.300
and they may or may not do that,

01:47:05.300 --> 01:47:06.583
for staff costs

01:47:06.583 --> 01:47:09.715
and just in banking fees and things that might be

01:47:09.715 --> 01:47:11.805
associated with that.

01:47:11.805 --> 01:47:13.157
If we do raise

01:47:13.157 --> 01:47:15.057
more additional funds,

01:47:15.057 --> 01:47:17.541
this board could possibly

01:47:17.541 --> 01:47:20.729
route some of that money back to some of the art programs,

01:47:20.729 --> 01:47:21.892
or something like that,

01:47:21.892 --> 01:47:23.365
or one of the programs

01:47:23.365 --> 01:47:25.831
from which maybe our finalists come from.

01:47:25.831 --> 01:47:29.519
But we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

01:47:29.519 --> 01:47:33.001
The funds will be dispersed directly to the student

01:47:33.001 --> 01:47:34.236
February 1st, 2019.

01:47:34.236 --> 01:47:37.337
We are also working on some collateral material

01:47:37.337 --> 01:47:38.929
and some promotional materials,

01:47:38.929 --> 01:47:39.762
a flyer.

01:47:41.221 --> 01:47:43.398
One of the things that I,

01:47:43.398 --> 01:47:45.688
and those of you who spend some time in the classroom,

01:47:45.688 --> 01:47:48.262
understand that when people ask you

01:47:48.262 --> 01:47:49.582
to do something

01:47:49.582 --> 01:47:50.637
that requires a lot of work

01:47:50.637 --> 01:47:51.996
and requires you to do something

01:47:51.996 --> 01:47:53.902
beyond what you normally do,

01:47:53.902 --> 01:47:55.525
a lot of people,

01:47:55.525 --> 01:47:57.232
they'll look at that and say,

01:47:57.232 --> 01:47:58.320
oh, that's interesting.

01:47:58.320 --> 01:47:59.939
Oh, what do I have to do here.

01:47:59.939 --> 01:48:02.026
And then it kind of migrates to the corner

01:48:02.026 --> 01:48:03.131
of your desk

01:48:03.131 --> 01:48:05.315
until you clean off your desk.

01:48:05.315 --> 01:48:06.537
What we want to do is we want to make this

01:48:06.537 --> 01:48:08.506
as clean as possible

01:48:08.506 --> 01:48:09.782
to where

01:48:09.782 --> 01:48:11.344
teachers

01:48:11.344 --> 01:48:12.802
will have materials

01:48:12.802 --> 01:48:14.829
when they initiate that project.

01:48:14.829 --> 01:48:17.739
Well they can have that discussion in their classrooms.

01:48:17.739 --> 01:48:19.020
And what we'd like to do

01:48:19.020 --> 01:48:20.819
is create some video content,

01:48:20.819 --> 01:48:22.696
some downloadable video content

01:48:22.696 --> 01:48:24.379
that explains the fund.

01:48:24.379 --> 01:48:26.116
And then maybe some follow up questions

01:48:26.116 --> 01:48:28.344
for teachers to facilitate a discussion afterwards,

01:48:28.344 --> 01:48:29.636
that sort of thing.

01:48:29.636 --> 01:48:30.619
And that way

01:48:30.619 --> 01:48:32.051
the students will know the purpose of the fund,

01:48:32.051 --> 01:48:33.138
the mission,

01:48:33.138 --> 01:48:36.510
and the history, how we got there from here.

01:48:36.510 --> 01:48:38.180
I am working on a script.

01:48:38.180 --> 01:48:40.223
And I'm in the process of soliciting

01:48:40.223 --> 01:48:42.723
a very recognizable celebrity,

01:48:44.681 --> 01:48:47.264
possibly, to narrate the video.

01:48:48.252 --> 01:48:50.290
And we figure that that would be kind of cool

01:48:50.290 --> 01:48:53.114
if someone that is of celebrity status

01:48:53.114 --> 01:48:55.977
who's a Texan, who has ties to education

01:48:55.977 --> 01:48:58.213
would narrate that

01:48:58.213 --> 01:49:00.839
and kids would be excited about listening to a video--

01:49:00.839 --> 01:49:03.172
(inaudible)

01:49:04.692 --> 01:49:08.045
(group chatter)

01:49:08.045 --> 01:49:09.062
Well.

01:49:09.062 --> 01:49:11.773
(group chatter)

01:49:11.773 --> 01:49:15.106
I'm gonna make a pitch to George Strait.

01:49:16.981 --> 01:49:17.814
Yes.

01:49:17.814 --> 01:49:19.627
George Strait's dad was a teacher.

01:49:19.627 --> 01:49:20.946
And George is actually a certified teacher.

01:49:20.946 --> 01:49:23.416
A lot of people don't realize

01:49:23.416 --> 01:49:26.285
is that he's a certified Ag teacher.

01:49:26.285 --> 01:49:27.118
Yes.

01:49:29.118 --> 01:49:30.308
Judging,

01:49:30.308 --> 01:49:31.469
next page,

01:49:31.469 --> 01:49:32.302
just

01:49:33.175 --> 01:49:34.511
how we want to do that is that

01:49:34.511 --> 01:49:35.951
the State Board,

01:49:35.951 --> 01:49:38.417
we're gonna have a judging panel

01:49:38.417 --> 01:49:41.819
consisting of one member from this body,

01:49:41.819 --> 01:49:43.768
a member of the PSF staff.

01:49:43.768 --> 01:49:45.312
We want to make sure that the PSF staff

01:49:45.312 --> 01:49:46.506
does have some,

01:49:46.506 --> 01:49:48.414
got some ownership of that.

01:49:48.414 --> 01:49:50.142
And make sure that we wind up with something

01:49:50.142 --> 01:49:51.513
that they can be okay with.

01:49:51.513 --> 01:49:53.668
And then three professionals

01:49:53.668 --> 01:49:55.327
who are graphic artists,

01:49:55.327 --> 01:49:56.923
advertising folks, that sort of thing

01:49:56.923 --> 01:49:57.943
that really have a good,

01:49:57.943 --> 01:50:00.169
good feel for that.

01:50:00.169 --> 01:50:03.169
The judging will be a blind judging.

01:50:04.429 --> 01:50:06.337
Is that nobody will know

01:50:06.337 --> 01:50:07.946
where that came from,

01:50:07.946 --> 01:50:09.298
if it came from,

01:50:09.298 --> 01:50:10.301
what district,

01:50:10.301 --> 01:50:12.119
or came from an ISD or a charter school,

01:50:12.119 --> 01:50:14.374
or what sort of program it came from.

01:50:14.374 --> 01:50:16.278
It's gonna be a blind judging.

01:50:16.278 --> 01:50:18.941
And nobody will know the identity of those entries

01:50:18.941 --> 01:50:20.988
until the very end.

01:50:20.988 --> 01:50:22.929
We're also gonna engage the services,

01:50:22.929 --> 01:50:25.319
the volunteer services of a professional graphic artist

01:50:25.319 --> 01:50:27.555
to act as an advisor and facilitator

01:50:27.555 --> 01:50:29.638
and to advise the process

01:50:31.043 --> 01:50:32.923
and to facilitate the process.

01:50:32.923 --> 01:50:34.906
Madam Chair, I believe that one of the things

01:50:34.906 --> 01:50:36.475
that we wanted to talk about here

01:50:36.475 --> 01:50:38.066
is that if anybody had,

01:50:38.066 --> 01:50:39.158
I do have one

01:50:39.158 --> 01:50:41.679
that has submitted her,

01:50:41.679 --> 01:50:43.012
her credentials.

01:50:44.309 --> 01:50:45.748
And I would recommend,

01:50:45.748 --> 01:50:47.025
and if somebody else has one,

01:50:47.025 --> 01:50:49.198
we would certainly consider that.

01:50:49.198 --> 01:50:51.643
I would suppose is that the power of appointment

01:50:51.643 --> 01:50:53.494
actually belongs,

01:50:53.494 --> 01:50:56.419
always rests with the Chair.

01:50:56.419 --> 01:50:59.813
And so that would be up to you.

01:50:59.813 --> 01:51:01.344
The TEA staff will recheck selected artwork

01:51:01.344 --> 01:51:04.187
to make sure that there's no infringement issues.

01:51:04.187 --> 01:51:05.966
And by the way,

01:51:05.966 --> 01:51:08.010
when we get into the rules,

01:51:08.010 --> 01:51:11.129
that there are, certainly, a student,

01:51:11.129 --> 01:51:12.358
very innocently,

01:51:12.358 --> 01:51:14.793
could replicate something that they saw

01:51:14.793 --> 01:51:16.197
and thought was really neat

01:51:16.197 --> 01:51:18.948
and not really remember where they saw that

01:51:18.948 --> 01:51:20.653
for the first time.

01:51:20.653 --> 01:51:21.900
And we could,

01:51:21.900 --> 01:51:23.359
it's possible that we could wind up

01:51:23.359 --> 01:51:25.411
with a piece of artwork that we could not trademark

01:51:25.411 --> 01:51:26.419
because it is confusingly similar

01:51:26.419 --> 01:51:28.836
to somebody else's trademark.

01:51:30.262 --> 01:51:32.530
And so that's one of the things

01:51:32.530 --> 01:51:35.158
we got to be real, real careful.

01:51:35.158 --> 01:51:37.003
(inaudible)

01:51:37.003 --> 01:51:38.592
The final rendering,

01:51:38.592 --> 01:51:40.130
the trademark filing will be completed by the staff.

01:51:40.130 --> 01:51:41.493
We'll create the wall art.

01:51:41.493 --> 01:51:44.378
And we'll have an unveiling here,

01:51:44.378 --> 01:51:46.128
February 1st of 2019.

01:51:47.170 --> 01:51:48.943
And so we will,

01:51:48.943 --> 01:51:50.000
we do have a vendor

01:51:50.000 --> 01:51:51.816
that has told us that they can execute

01:51:51.816 --> 01:51:53.057
that within our timeline

01:51:53.057 --> 01:51:54.959
and actually have the executed the wall art here

01:51:54.959 --> 01:51:56.362
to put on an easel,

01:51:56.362 --> 01:51:57.503
covered up

01:51:57.503 --> 01:51:58.857
and have a dramatic, I don't know,

01:51:58.857 --> 01:52:00.049
maybe a drum roll

01:52:00.049 --> 01:52:02.750
and some dramatic music or something like that.

01:52:02.750 --> 01:52:05.808
And so, if you'll just turn the page

01:52:05.808 --> 01:52:07.808
and what we have next is,

01:52:08.681 --> 01:52:09.848
are the rules.

01:52:11.502 --> 01:52:12.882
And I'm just gonna run through these

01:52:12.882 --> 01:52:14.274
very, very quickly.

01:52:14.274 --> 01:52:15.439
And you can read,

01:52:15.439 --> 01:52:16.945
I won't belabor reading these.

01:52:16.945 --> 01:52:18.347
There's the purpose,

01:52:18.347 --> 01:52:19.347
first the eligibility.

01:52:19.347 --> 01:52:21.764
Now, there is a disqualifier,

01:52:22.896 --> 01:52:24.813
is that we believe that,

01:52:26.404 --> 01:52:27.821
just to avoid the

01:52:28.912 --> 01:52:30.062
appearance of impropriety

01:52:30.062 --> 01:52:31.360
or conflicts of interest,

01:52:31.360 --> 01:52:33.674
is that children and grandchildren

01:52:33.674 --> 01:52:35.865
of current State Board of Education members

01:52:35.865 --> 01:52:38.057
and children and grandchildren of PSF staff

01:52:38.057 --> 01:52:40.557
are ineligible to participate.

01:52:42.699 --> 01:52:44.649
That could be a possible,

01:52:44.649 --> 01:52:46.666
just the optics of that,

01:52:46.666 --> 01:52:47.813
could be negative.

01:52:47.813 --> 01:52:49.214
Entry fees,

01:52:49.214 --> 01:52:51.854
deadline is November 1st.

01:52:51.854 --> 01:52:55.696
We are gonna receive everything online.

01:52:55.696 --> 01:52:57.645
If there's an issue on

01:52:57.645 --> 01:52:59.637
eligibility or submission,

01:52:59.637 --> 01:53:01.652
we're gonna task the state board,

01:53:01.652 --> 01:53:03.416
the chair of the board

01:53:03.416 --> 01:53:05.333
with sorting those out.

01:53:07.071 --> 01:53:09.112
Item number five is how things are submitted.

01:53:09.112 --> 01:53:10.695
And in what format.

01:53:14.105 --> 01:53:16.112
We intend to make that live

01:53:16.112 --> 01:53:18.981
no later than October 1st.

01:53:18.981 --> 01:53:21.647
Number six is the criteria for judging.

01:53:21.647 --> 01:53:23.956
And certainly, I think that's very helpful.

01:53:23.956 --> 01:53:25.706
Certainly as they go,

01:53:26.710 --> 01:53:28.721
they understand how they're gonna be evaluated.

01:53:28.721 --> 01:53:31.880
We did not go as far as to create a rubric.

01:53:31.880 --> 01:53:33.884
We felt like that the panel can do that,

01:53:33.884 --> 01:53:35.750
that they can kind of sort that out

01:53:35.750 --> 01:53:37.834
and come up with that.

01:53:37.834 --> 01:53:38.833
The judging process,

01:53:38.833 --> 01:53:41.127
we've referenced it earlier.

01:53:41.127 --> 01:53:42.449
But at the end of the day,

01:53:42.449 --> 01:53:43.638
it says that

01:53:43.638 --> 01:53:45.430
the panel is going to select no more

01:53:45.430 --> 01:53:46.629
than 10,

01:53:46.629 --> 01:53:47.629
no more than 10.

01:53:47.629 --> 01:53:50.039
They may select five,

01:53:50.039 --> 01:53:51.132
or seven.

01:53:51.132 --> 01:53:53.765
I think we'll just leave it to them.

01:53:53.765 --> 01:53:55.916
And ultimately, this board

01:53:55.916 --> 01:53:58.447
will decide the winner.

01:53:58.447 --> 01:54:01.114
And they will be on display here.

01:54:01.114 --> 01:54:02.831
Now we won't know who's they are.

01:54:02.831 --> 01:54:04.688
But they will be on display here

01:54:04.688 --> 01:54:05.996
in November.

01:54:05.996 --> 01:54:08.231
And this board with then

01:54:08.231 --> 01:54:09.981
go through a process.

01:54:10.947 --> 01:54:12.407
It depends on how many we have,

01:54:12.407 --> 01:54:15.143
and there may be a runoff and some things like that.

01:54:15.143 --> 01:54:16.703
So there could be some high drama.

01:54:16.703 --> 01:54:17.786
And then in--

01:54:18.966 --> 01:54:20.739
(inaudible)

01:54:20.739 --> 01:54:23.184
Some wine drinking, yes, right, yes.

01:54:23.184 --> 01:54:24.184
It could be.

01:54:25.105 --> 01:54:26.894
Like at an art show, that's right.

01:54:26.894 --> 01:54:28.995
We could, and then,

01:54:28.995 --> 01:54:30.346
by the way,

01:54:30.346 --> 01:54:33.228
the last week of January,

01:54:33.228 --> 01:54:34.778
when we convene,

01:54:34.778 --> 01:54:37.267
the last week of January for the February 1st meeting,

01:54:37.267 --> 01:54:39.173
we will go ahead and redisplay those finalists

01:54:39.173 --> 01:54:41.501
where we know who they are,

01:54:41.501 --> 01:54:44.258
and recognize them in that fashion.

01:54:44.258 --> 01:54:45.551
All the finalists,

01:54:45.551 --> 01:54:47.492
even if they are not the winner,

01:54:47.492 --> 01:54:49.034
but they will receive

01:54:49.034 --> 01:54:50.450
a certificate of some kind.

01:54:50.450 --> 01:54:52.303
Because I think a young person

01:54:52.303 --> 01:54:54.018
who is aspiring to be an artist,

01:54:54.018 --> 01:54:56.029
I think that that would be

01:54:56.029 --> 01:54:57.140
kind of a feather in their cap

01:54:57.140 --> 01:54:58.766
in that they were, at least, a finalist.

01:54:58.766 --> 01:55:02.621
Notification, the originality of work.

01:55:02.621 --> 01:55:04.313
We're gonna ask them to just to sign

01:55:04.313 --> 01:55:05.791
a statement of originality.

01:55:05.791 --> 01:55:09.689
Transfer of rights, is that they're gonna have to transfer

01:55:09.689 --> 01:55:10.863
the rights.

01:55:10.863 --> 01:55:13.695
And then here's the piece about the recognition.

01:55:13.695 --> 01:55:14.745
We've already talked about that.

01:55:14.745 --> 01:55:16.495
And then the last item is

01:55:16.495 --> 01:55:18.184
that one of the,

01:55:18.184 --> 01:55:19.017
the items

01:55:20.201 --> 01:55:22.507
that our graphic artists will do,

01:55:22.507 --> 01:55:24.959
we don't know how we're gonna get these.

01:55:24.959 --> 01:55:28.140
I mean, if it comes out of a CTE program

01:55:28.140 --> 01:55:29.558
that does graphic art,

01:55:29.558 --> 01:55:31.297
they may have a vector file.

01:55:31.297 --> 01:55:33.710
But we also may get a sketch.

01:55:33.710 --> 01:55:37.293
We may get a scanned oil on canvas painting

01:55:38.516 --> 01:55:39.681
for all we know.

01:55:39.681 --> 01:55:40.910
We don't know what we're gonna get

01:55:40.910 --> 01:55:42.378
because it can come to us as a PDF.

01:55:42.378 --> 01:55:43.941
But ultimately,

01:55:43.941 --> 01:55:48.077
somebody has to convert that into a usable form.

01:55:48.077 --> 01:55:49.997
And so that would be our volunteer

01:55:49.997 --> 01:55:51.664
graphic artist would

01:55:52.808 --> 01:55:55.438
then be responsible for doing that.

01:55:55.438 --> 01:55:56.458
And that, by the way,

01:55:56.458 --> 01:55:59.362
takes a few hours work, generally.

01:55:59.362 --> 01:56:02.461
And so, Debbie, can you pass out that.

01:56:02.461 --> 01:56:05.543
And I just wanted to make a recommendation.

01:56:05.543 --> 01:56:06.376
I have

01:56:07.935 --> 01:56:09.102
a young person

01:56:10.176 --> 01:56:12.696
who is a constituent of Ms. Cargill.

01:56:12.696 --> 01:56:14.531
The group is a constituent of Mr. Bradley

01:56:14.531 --> 01:56:17.031
that lives in College Station.

01:56:18.044 --> 01:56:19.965
And, but Marty Rowley,

01:56:19.965 --> 01:56:22.039
she graduated from Texas Tech.

01:56:22.039 --> 01:56:23.184
And so--

01:56:23.184 --> 01:56:25.851
(group chatter)

01:56:32.223 --> 01:56:34.556
<v Ms. Bahorich>Ms. Miller.</v>

01:56:35.878 --> 01:56:37.672
<v Ms. Miller>It sounds like a wonderful project.</v>

01:56:37.672 --> 01:56:39.339
I was just thinking,

01:56:40.470 --> 01:56:41.619
in the Permanent School Fund,

01:56:41.619 --> 01:56:42.941
don't they,

01:56:42.941 --> 01:56:43.958
aren't they housed up the street

01:56:43.958 --> 01:56:45.170
in a separate building?

01:56:45.170 --> 01:56:46.172
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes.</v>

01:56:46.172 --> 01:56:48.587
<v ->Okay, what about once you get the</v>

01:56:48.587 --> 01:56:50.501
to the end of all this,

01:56:50.501 --> 01:56:53.000
that we put a plaque

01:56:53.000 --> 01:56:54.572
of the logo

01:56:54.572 --> 01:56:55.405
on to,

01:56:56.740 --> 01:56:58.219
outside of the building

01:56:58.219 --> 01:56:59.274
of the Permanent School Fund?

01:56:59.274 --> 01:57:00.283
<v Mr. Maynard>We could do that.</v>

01:57:00.283 --> 01:57:02.451
In fact, we could put another one in here.

01:57:02.451 --> 01:57:04.023
<v ->Yeah, but.</v>

01:57:04.023 --> 01:57:05.417
<v Ms. Bahorich>But she's talking something big</v>

01:57:05.417 --> 01:57:06.620
and noticeable.

01:57:06.620 --> 01:57:08.631
(laughter)

01:57:08.631 --> 01:57:09.998
<v ->Anyway, just a thought.</v>

01:57:09.998 --> 01:57:11.267
<v Ms. Bahorich>Like street branding, yeah.</v>

01:57:11.267 --> 01:57:12.402
Exactly.

01:57:12.402 --> 01:57:15.819
<v Mr. Maynard>Let me offer up a motion.</v>

01:57:16.802 --> 01:57:18.230
<v ->I just want to make sure.</v>

01:57:18.230 --> 01:57:20.321
So this is the graphic artist person

01:57:20.321 --> 01:57:22.450
who's gonna volunteer time

01:57:22.450 --> 01:57:23.950
to kind of get it back in order.

01:57:23.950 --> 01:57:25.435
Is that who this person is?

01:57:25.435 --> 01:57:27.520
<v Mr. Maynard>Yes.</v>

01:57:27.520 --> 01:57:28.661
To be,

01:57:28.661 --> 01:57:30.540
to be a facilitator to the process

01:57:30.540 --> 01:57:32.445
and advisor to the committee.

01:57:32.445 --> 01:57:33.278
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:57:35.552 --> 01:57:36.714
I mean I think this is terrific.

01:57:36.714 --> 01:57:38.375
But I just want to be open

01:57:38.375 --> 01:57:40.616
that if somebody had another volunteer

01:57:40.616 --> 01:57:41.861
who's like to help with that,

01:57:41.861 --> 01:57:43.795
feel free to offer

01:57:43.795 --> 01:57:45.962
and then I'll choose among

01:57:46.862 --> 01:57:48.393
the worthy applicants.

01:57:48.393 --> 01:57:49.606
<v Mr. Maynard>Well,</v>

01:57:49.606 --> 01:57:51.156
later we'll pick the judging panel.

01:57:51.156 --> 01:57:53.009
We'll need some for the judging panel.

01:57:53.009 --> 01:57:54.790
And certainly, if you've got some for those.

01:57:54.790 --> 01:57:56.079
<v ->Kind of yeah,</v>

01:57:56.079 --> 01:57:57.241
help with the coordination

01:57:57.241 --> 01:57:58.826
and final,

01:57:58.826 --> 01:57:59.879
but it's volunteer work, so.

01:57:59.879 --> 01:58:01.953
Yes, Mr. Cortez.

01:58:01.953 --> 01:58:03.167
<v ->Yeah, Madam Chair,</v>

01:58:03.167 --> 01:58:04.167
Mr. Maynard,

01:58:07.712 --> 01:58:09.066
good job, brother, good job.

01:58:09.066 --> 01:58:10.983
What I wanted to ask is

01:58:13.129 --> 01:58:15.184
you talked about how the money would be housed

01:58:15.184 --> 01:58:17.105
with a non-profit.

01:58:17.105 --> 01:58:19.522
And I just wanted to speak to

01:58:22.275 --> 01:58:23.108
the issue

01:58:23.108 --> 01:58:23.996
of the possibility

01:58:23.996 --> 01:58:28.175
of in the event that we raised above 4,000 dollars,

01:58:28.175 --> 01:58:30.827
obviously they get to keep 250.

01:58:30.827 --> 01:58:33.410
What if we raise way, way more?

01:58:34.735 --> 01:58:36.637
Is there something in here that we can add

01:58:36.637 --> 01:58:39.719
where we can, rather than go to an art program,

01:58:39.719 --> 01:58:41.944
give it back to the winner and the runner up?

01:58:41.944 --> 01:58:42.944
I mean cause

01:58:43.906 --> 01:58:47.958
that kind of changes things a little bit

01:58:47.958 --> 01:58:49.959
and I can probably now go back and ask

01:58:49.959 --> 01:58:51.515
a lot of people

01:58:51.515 --> 01:58:52.624
in south Texas

01:58:52.624 --> 01:58:55.466
that wouldn't mind giving money for something like this.

01:58:55.466 --> 01:58:59.966
And so we were to raise several thousand dollars more,

01:59:00.990 --> 01:59:02.132
what can we do in terms of giving

01:59:02.132 --> 01:59:04.348
the winner and the runner up.

01:59:04.348 --> 01:59:05.910
Just a thought.

01:59:05.910 --> 01:59:07.605
And the other question,

01:59:07.605 --> 01:59:09.094
and I think that was all I had,

01:59:09.094 --> 01:59:11.808
was on the eligibility.

01:59:11.808 --> 01:59:14.141
It is just the PSF and FBOE,

01:59:15.014 --> 01:59:18.087
or will it also extend to all those listed

01:59:18.087 --> 01:59:19.170
that would be

01:59:21.008 --> 01:59:22.102
on number six

01:59:22.102 --> 01:59:23.602
of the first page?

01:59:25.247 --> 01:59:26.260
<v Mr. Maynard>No.</v>

01:59:26.260 --> 01:59:27.633
<v ->For the restrictions.</v>

01:59:27.633 --> 01:59:28.466
<v ->No, sir.</v>

01:59:29.366 --> 01:59:30.983
All we're doing there

01:59:30.983 --> 01:59:33.278
is we're just using some of those

01:59:33.278 --> 01:59:35.517
as a platform to promote it.

01:59:35.517 --> 01:59:36.517
<v Mr. Cortez>Oh, just to promote it,</v>

01:59:36.517 --> 01:59:37.516
not for judging.

01:59:37.516 --> 01:59:38.559
<v ->No, no, no, they're not judging.</v>

01:59:38.559 --> 01:59:40.114
We're just promoting.

01:59:40.114 --> 01:59:41.112
<v Mr. Cortez>Alright.</v>

01:59:41.112 --> 01:59:42.116
Then I only had one question.

01:59:42.116 --> 01:59:42.949
<v ->Yep.</v>

01:59:44.671 --> 01:59:46.120
<v ->Let's go ahead and put the motion again on the floor.</v>

01:59:46.120 --> 01:59:47.522
I don't know if you actually,

01:59:47.522 --> 01:59:48.570
you were explaining it.

01:59:48.570 --> 01:59:49.861
I don't think the motion's actually been presented.

01:59:49.861 --> 01:59:50.864
Or did it?

01:59:50.864 --> 01:59:51.877
Did I miss it?

01:59:51.877 --> 01:59:53.259
<v Mr. Bradley>I'll give you a motion.</v>

01:59:53.259 --> 01:59:54.945
<v ->Cause I wanted to see if there's any further discussion.</v>

01:59:54.945 --> 01:59:56.512
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:59:56.512 --> 01:59:58.191
Madam Chair,

01:59:58.191 --> 01:59:59.619
recommended by the committee

01:59:59.619 --> 02:00:02.339
and we move that the State Board of Education

02:00:02.339 --> 02:00:05.447
approve the procedures and rules for the PSF

02:00:05.447 --> 02:00:07.476
logo art contest

02:00:07.476 --> 02:00:09.947
to include a 3,000 dollar first place award,

02:00:09.947 --> 02:00:12.864
and a 1,000 dollar runner up award.

02:00:16.859 --> 02:00:19.247
<v ->Okay, so the committee's recommending</v>

02:00:19.247 --> 02:00:20.830
the approval of the

02:00:21.833 --> 02:00:24.215
PSF logo art contest is on the floor.

02:00:24.215 --> 02:00:25.743
Any further discussion

02:00:25.743 --> 02:00:27.437
about that?

02:00:27.437 --> 02:00:28.627
(inaudible)

02:00:28.627 --> 02:00:29.631
Yeah, just a,

02:00:29.631 --> 02:00:30.632
yeah.

02:00:30.632 --> 02:00:31.641
Mr. Bradley.

02:00:31.641 --> 02:00:32.967
<v ->Well, I'd like to address it.</v>

02:00:32.967 --> 02:00:35.215
Certainly there's nothing wrong with us amending

02:00:35.215 --> 02:00:37.895
the amount of the award that we give to

02:00:37.895 --> 02:00:40.823
or expand the number of recipients of the award

02:00:40.823 --> 02:00:42.528
if we have additional funds.

02:00:42.528 --> 02:00:43.653
Maybe every runner up will

02:00:43.653 --> 02:00:45.736
get some type of stipend.

02:00:47.579 --> 02:00:49.367
(inaudible)

02:00:49.367 --> 02:00:50.366
<v ->Yeah, and Madam Chair,</v>

02:00:50.366 --> 02:00:51.717
I'll just say if that happens,

02:00:51.717 --> 02:00:54.259
and to address Mr. Cortez's question,

02:00:54.259 --> 02:00:56.124
is it's certainly if that happens,

02:00:56.124 --> 02:00:57.866
we can always come back

02:00:57.866 --> 02:01:00.563
and amend the procedure.

02:01:00.563 --> 02:01:02.246
And then to do that, I would certainly

02:01:02.246 --> 02:01:04.192
have no objection to that.

02:01:04.192 --> 02:01:05.470
(inaudible)

02:01:05.470 --> 02:01:06.471
That's the kind of problem we have.

02:01:06.471 --> 02:01:07.603
<v ->I'd love to have that problem.</v>

02:01:07.603 --> 02:01:09.315
That'd be great.

02:01:09.315 --> 02:01:10.369
(inaudible)

02:01:10.369 --> 02:01:12.026
I do want to mention just one thing.

02:01:12.026 --> 02:01:14.548
Mrs. Miller had an excellent suggestion.

02:01:14.548 --> 02:01:17.775
I don't know that we can do something

02:01:17.775 --> 02:01:18.812
on a building.

02:01:18.812 --> 02:01:21.230
Can we do something on a building?

02:01:21.230 --> 02:01:22.929
Like the PSF building?

02:01:22.929 --> 02:01:25.678
<v ->So we don't actually control the buildings.</v>

02:01:25.678 --> 02:01:28.009
Those are controlled by another

02:01:28.009 --> 02:01:29.189
agency.

02:01:29.189 --> 02:01:32.484
So anything like that, we'd have to work with that agency.

02:01:32.484 --> 02:01:35.118
But I think in your proposed rules,

02:01:35.118 --> 02:01:36.429
it's already setting out to

02:01:36.429 --> 02:01:38.318
have it placed on the wall

02:01:38.318 --> 02:01:41.568
of the PSF with a plaque on it

02:01:41.568 --> 02:01:44.268
attributing it to the artist.

02:01:44.268 --> 02:01:46.376
And we can explore

02:01:46.376 --> 02:01:48.414
other options as well,

02:01:48.414 --> 02:01:49.414
whether it's

02:01:50.639 --> 02:01:51.964
put within here or

02:01:51.964 --> 02:01:54.464
if you wanted to be more august,

02:01:54.464 --> 02:01:55.964
we would just have to

02:01:55.964 --> 02:01:58.362
consult with the facilities commission on that.

02:01:58.362 --> 02:02:00.446
<v ->I would really like to pursue</v>

02:02:00.446 --> 02:02:02.244
what Mrs. Miller's suggesting.

02:02:02.244 --> 02:02:03.325
If we're gonna do this,

02:02:03.325 --> 02:02:07.075
and this could be a really prominent building

02:02:09.397 --> 02:02:10.455
display

02:02:10.455 --> 02:02:12.386
that would really highlight it driving through town.

02:02:12.386 --> 02:02:13.756
So I think that's worth

02:02:13.756 --> 02:02:15.668
looking into.

02:02:15.668 --> 02:02:17.256
And just finding out how much it would be

02:02:17.256 --> 02:02:18.773
and if we could even do it.

02:02:18.773 --> 02:02:19.900
<v ->I should also mention.</v>

02:02:19.900 --> 02:02:21.765
I think that building is not a state owned building.

02:02:21.765 --> 02:02:23.891
I think that is where--

02:02:23.891 --> 02:02:25.915
yeah, the space is leased, which--

02:02:25.915 --> 02:02:27.870
(inaudible)

02:02:27.870 --> 02:02:30.100
<v ->Yeah, we can talk to some folks.</v>

02:02:30.100 --> 02:02:31.710
So I think it's just worth checking out.

02:02:31.710 --> 02:02:33.557
That's all that I think,

02:02:33.557 --> 02:02:35.548
I think that's an excellent suggestion.

02:02:35.548 --> 02:02:36.642
I'm sorry, Mr. Cortez,

02:02:36.642 --> 02:02:38.606
you had something else.

02:02:38.606 --> 02:02:39.968
<v ->The last audit, in terms of funding</v>

02:02:39.968 --> 02:02:41.385
we had initially talked about

02:02:41.385 --> 02:02:42.996
how maybe

02:02:42.996 --> 02:02:45.080
this body would fund it.

02:02:45.080 --> 02:02:46.330
But in light of

02:02:47.789 --> 02:02:49.411
the 501C3 information,

02:02:49.411 --> 02:02:50.828
there's a couple people

02:02:50.828 --> 02:02:52.528
that I'd like to ask.

02:02:52.528 --> 02:02:55.289
But are we gonna just kind of break it up into 15

02:02:55.289 --> 02:02:57.330
and say each of you's responsible

02:02:57.330 --> 02:02:58.947
to identify at least

02:02:58.947 --> 02:03:00.182
X dollar amount

02:03:00.182 --> 02:03:01.974
for this project?

02:03:01.974 --> 02:03:03.479
<v ->And when are we trying to get this done?</v>

02:03:03.479 --> 02:03:04.562
By what date?

02:03:06.013 --> 02:03:07.544
(inaudible)

02:03:07.544 --> 02:03:10.773
<v Mr. Maynard>Well, next meeting would be great.</v>

02:03:10.773 --> 02:03:13.120
<v ->September meeting or November?</v>

02:03:13.120 --> 02:03:14.207
Or what?

02:03:14.207 --> 02:03:15.914
<v Mr. Maynard>By the September meeting.</v>

02:03:15.914 --> 02:03:17.147
<v ->September meeting.</v>

02:03:17.147 --> 02:03:18.326
Okay, okay.

02:03:18.326 --> 02:03:19.837
What'd you say Mr. Maynard?

02:03:19.837 --> 02:03:21.593
<v ->I have my check.</v>

02:03:21.593 --> 02:03:22.426
So.

02:03:25.640 --> 02:03:30.640
(laughter)
(group chatter)

02:03:34.765 --> 02:03:36.594
<v ->I thought you were gonna do the first prize winner.</v>

02:03:36.594 --> 02:03:38.927
(inaudible)

02:03:44.705 --> 02:03:46.392
Yes, would you like to pass a collection plate

02:03:46.392 --> 02:03:47.709
is what we'd like to do at this moment.

02:03:47.709 --> 02:03:50.180
<v Woman>Who does one make the check out to?</v>

02:03:50.180 --> 02:03:52.478
<v ->Yeah, you make it payable to?</v>

02:03:52.478 --> 02:03:55.146
<v Man>The Tom Maynard College--</v>

02:03:55.146 --> 02:03:57.685
<v ->No, no, we'll collect the checks today.</v>

02:03:57.685 --> 02:03:59.840
If you all have checks, let's take them today.

02:03:59.840 --> 02:04:00.905
What is it?

02:04:00.905 --> 02:04:02.146
<v Woman>Texas Leadership Council.</v>

02:04:02.146 --> 02:04:05.227
<v ->Texas Leadership Council.</v>

02:04:05.227 --> 02:04:07.101
So if you would--

02:04:07.101 --> 02:04:08.265
<v Mr. Maynard>Texas Leadership Center.</v>

02:04:08.265 --> 02:04:09.332
<v ->Oh, center.</v>

02:04:09.332 --> 02:04:10.590
Texas Leadership Center.

02:04:10.590 --> 02:04:13.074
So please feel free to donate

02:04:13.074 --> 02:04:14.996
as the plate is passed.

02:04:14.996 --> 02:04:18.724
<v ->And then put in the memo line PSF student contest.</v>

02:04:18.724 --> 02:04:21.057
(inaudible)

02:04:22.189 --> 02:04:23.168
<v Man>Send us an email.</v>

02:04:23.168 --> 02:04:26.377
<v Mr. Cortez>Yeah, and in addition to the email,</v>

02:04:26.377 --> 02:04:28.231
could you send us like a form letter

02:04:28.231 --> 02:04:29.940
with what the program is.

02:04:29.940 --> 02:04:31.708
There's a few non-profits that I think

02:04:31.708 --> 02:04:34.503
might be generous, at least in my area,

02:04:34.503 --> 02:04:37.203
that I'd just love to share it with.

02:04:37.203 --> 02:04:39.690
And they may surprise us and give us some.

02:04:39.690 --> 02:04:41.989
<v Ms. Bahorich>That would be great.</v>

02:04:41.989 --> 02:04:43.509
<v Mr. Cortez>Yeah.</v>

02:04:43.509 --> 02:04:45.192
<v Ms. Bahorich>Go ahead Ms. Perez-Diaz.</v>

02:04:45.192 --> 02:04:46.270
<v ->Thank you, Madam Chair.</v>

02:04:46.270 --> 02:04:47.814
So I guess if we're gonna do that

02:04:47.814 --> 02:04:49.503
and solicit to different people,

02:04:49.503 --> 02:04:51.090
is it possible to get a Tax ID number

02:04:51.090 --> 02:04:51.923
for--

02:04:53.177 --> 02:04:55.687
does it work with the organization

02:04:55.687 --> 02:04:57.003
that we're writing?

02:04:57.003 --> 02:04:58.168
<v Mr. Maynard>Yeah, the Leadership Center would.</v>

02:04:58.168 --> 02:04:59.288
<v ->So we can get that,</v>

02:04:59.288 --> 02:05:00.527
that we can share?

02:05:00.527 --> 02:05:01.360
Thank you.

02:05:06.918 --> 02:05:10.501
<v ->Alright, any other comments or questions?</v>

02:05:11.916 --> 02:05:13.540
I gotta say,

02:05:13.540 --> 02:05:15.098
Mr. Maynard this was,

02:05:15.098 --> 02:05:15.931
this was--

02:05:18.046 --> 02:05:20.002
(applause)

02:05:20.002 --> 02:05:21.049
Excellent job.

02:05:21.049 --> 02:05:22.059
Yeah, Ms. Cargill,

02:05:22.059 --> 02:05:23.062
did you have a question?

02:05:23.062 --> 02:05:24.216
<v Ms. Cargill>I just wanted to thank him.</v>

02:05:24.216 --> 02:05:25.543
<v ->Oh no, it's pretty remarkable.</v>

02:05:25.543 --> 02:05:27.543
He kept working and working,

02:05:27.543 --> 02:05:28.816
had several phone calls,

02:05:28.816 --> 02:05:29.811
met with people.

02:05:29.811 --> 02:05:31.046
I mean this has been

02:05:31.046 --> 02:05:32.049
a pretty--

02:05:32.049 --> 02:05:33.050
How many months have you been working on this?

02:05:33.050 --> 02:05:34.362
I forget.

02:05:34.362 --> 02:05:35.364
It's been a long time.

02:05:35.364 --> 02:05:36.364
You talked to me about this a long time ago.

02:05:36.364 --> 02:05:37.992
<v ->Yeah,</v>

02:05:37.992 --> 02:05:40.505
and also staff of Von,

02:05:40.505 --> 02:05:41.690
Von Bayer,

02:05:41.690 --> 02:05:44.009
a.k.a. David Bradley.

02:05:44.009 --> 02:05:46.888
(inaudible)

02:05:46.888 --> 02:05:47.721
Yes.

02:05:49.642 --> 02:05:50.743
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yeah.</v>

02:05:50.743 --> 02:05:51.801
<v ->And Chris Maska</v>

02:05:51.801 --> 02:05:53.306
and the PSF staff.

02:05:53.306 --> 02:05:54.852
So yeah, a lot of,

02:05:54.852 --> 02:05:56.265
<v ->And Debbie was great</v>

02:05:56.265 --> 02:05:58.182
keeping us all together

02:05:59.195 --> 02:06:00.197
and setting up stuff.

02:06:00.197 --> 02:06:01.402
<v Mr. Maynard>Yeah.</v>

02:06:01.402 --> 02:06:02.434
<v ->Yeah, it was good.</v>

02:06:02.434 --> 02:06:06.025
Okay, so the motion for us to approve procedures and rules

02:06:06.025 --> 02:06:08.159
for the PSF logo art contest

02:06:08.159 --> 02:06:10.706
to include 3,000 dollar scholarship,

02:06:10.706 --> 02:06:11.900
first place award.

02:06:11.900 --> 02:06:15.016
I'm sorry, 3,000 dollars, first place award,

02:06:15.016 --> 02:06:17.700
and a 1,000 dollar runner up award.

02:06:17.700 --> 02:06:19.924
And this is just a voice vote.

02:06:19.924 --> 02:06:21.416
All those in favor, say aye.

02:06:21.416 --> 02:06:22.575
<v Group>Aye.</v>

02:06:22.575 --> 02:06:23.686
<v ->All those opposed, say no.</v>

02:06:23.686 --> 02:06:25.293
Motion's adopted.

02:06:25.293 --> 02:06:28.850
And now, I'd like to take just a 10 minute break

02:06:28.850 --> 02:06:30.867
cause it's already 11:30.

02:06:30.867 --> 02:06:31.960
We need to

02:06:31.960 --> 02:06:34.377
do that, and we'll come back.

02:06:38.424 --> 02:06:39.424
Committee on School Initiatives.

02:06:42.083 --> 02:06:44.794
And, I believe Heather Mose

02:06:44.794 --> 02:06:46.191
will be up first,

02:06:46.191 --> 02:06:47.358
and then we'll

02:06:49.104 --> 02:06:52.187
actually have the motions after that.

02:06:57.257 --> 02:06:58.672
<v ->Good morning Madam Chair,</v>

02:06:58.672 --> 02:07:00.422
members of the board.

02:07:01.823 --> 02:07:05.752
It is a beautiful day in the neighborhood today.

02:07:05.752 --> 02:07:07.799
As part of the application process,

02:07:07.799 --> 02:07:11.979
we have invited the proposed Generation 23 charter founders

02:07:11.979 --> 02:07:13.873
and their board representatives

02:07:13.873 --> 02:07:15.995
to Austin to share with you

02:07:15.995 --> 02:07:17.596
their passion and vision

02:07:17.596 --> 02:07:21.239
for operating a Texas public charter school.

02:07:21.239 --> 02:07:23.493
Going in alphabetical order,

02:07:23.493 --> 02:07:25.214
I will be inviting

02:07:25.214 --> 02:07:27.587
those representatives up.

02:07:27.587 --> 02:07:31.198
Here today representing Bloom Academy Charter School

02:07:31.198 --> 02:07:33.507
proposing in Houston,

02:07:33.507 --> 02:07:35.554
we have Superintendent Courtney Sales

02:07:35.554 --> 02:07:38.304
and Board President Sarah Ingram.

02:07:53.727 --> 02:07:54.751
<v ->Good morning,</v>

02:07:54.751 --> 02:07:55.732
and thank you for having us here today.

02:07:55.732 --> 02:07:57.698
We're incredibly humble and grateful

02:07:57.698 --> 02:07:59.665
to be able to present our proposal to you.

02:07:59.665 --> 02:08:01.193
My name is Courtney Sales

02:08:01.193 --> 02:08:02.956
and I'm the proposed head of school

02:08:02.956 --> 02:08:04.388
of Bloom Academy.

02:08:04.388 --> 02:08:06.324
And alongside myself is Ms. Sarah Ibriham,

02:08:06.324 --> 02:08:08.481
who's a proposed board chair

02:08:08.481 --> 02:08:09.934
of the Bloom Academy board.

02:08:09.934 --> 02:08:12.024
Bloom Academy is designed

02:08:12.024 --> 02:08:13.470
for the Sunnyside community

02:08:13.470 --> 02:08:16.235
by the Sunnyside community in Houston.

02:08:16.235 --> 02:08:17.844
Our mission is very ambitious.

02:08:17.844 --> 02:08:19.913
It's to prepare all kindergarten

02:08:19.913 --> 02:08:21.253
through fifth grade students

02:08:21.253 --> 02:08:23.208
for success in middle school, high school

02:08:23.208 --> 02:08:25.457
and ultimately college.

02:08:25.457 --> 02:08:28.068
And to lead lives of impact in their community.

02:08:28.068 --> 02:08:31.038
We intend on doing this by providing a rigorous curriculum,

02:08:31.038 --> 02:08:32.788
a joyful environment,

02:08:34.391 --> 02:08:39.167
and a specific emphasis on character development.

02:08:39.167 --> 02:08:41.917
In order to reach this ambitious mission,

02:08:41.917 --> 02:08:43.904
we knew that we needed to have a very ambitious vision.

02:08:43.904 --> 02:08:46.329
And it's one that we're proud to present today

02:08:46.329 --> 02:08:48.497
because it was influenced by the feedback

02:08:48.497 --> 02:08:50.682
and community conversations

02:08:50.682 --> 02:08:53.627
that we've had with key stakeholders in the community.

02:08:53.627 --> 02:08:54.460
When we

02:08:56.032 --> 02:08:57.269
meet with community members,

02:08:57.269 --> 02:08:58.672
and when we meet with stakeholders,

02:08:58.672 --> 02:08:59.934
what they routinely say

02:08:59.934 --> 02:09:01.541
is that they'd like

02:09:01.541 --> 02:09:03.039
schools to go back to the basics,

02:09:03.039 --> 02:09:04.433
that they want children and students

02:09:04.433 --> 02:09:06.181
who can read really well,

02:09:06.181 --> 02:09:07.659
do math really well,

02:09:07.659 --> 02:09:10.771
and have high grades in science.

02:09:10.771 --> 02:09:12.862
Additionally, what was consistently emphasized

02:09:12.862 --> 02:09:14.994
when we spoke to people in the community

02:09:14.994 --> 02:09:16.942
is that it's not enough for students

02:09:16.942 --> 02:09:19.420
to be academically ready for the world,

02:09:19.420 --> 02:09:22.728
but that they also have to be great people.

02:09:22.728 --> 02:09:24.564
In addition to both our mission

02:09:24.564 --> 02:09:25.987
and our vision really being crafted

02:09:25.987 --> 02:09:27.170
by the input of the community,

02:09:27.170 --> 02:09:30.217
our innovation is also very community specific.

02:09:30.217 --> 02:09:33.155
Sunnyside is a historically African American community

02:09:33.155 --> 02:09:35.695
where lots of things have happened to Sunnyside

02:09:35.695 --> 02:09:37.703
instead of with Sunnyside.

02:09:37.703 --> 02:09:39.350
It has a rich legacy of

02:09:39.350 --> 02:09:41.609
advocacy and self advocacy.

02:09:41.609 --> 02:09:43.998
To that end, our innovation

02:09:43.998 --> 02:09:45.383
is the intentional development

02:09:45.383 --> 02:09:46.482
of student voice

02:09:46.482 --> 02:09:48.507
at every single grade level at Bloom.

02:09:48.507 --> 02:09:50.111
What this will ultimately look like

02:09:50.111 --> 02:09:51.509
is in third through fifth grade,

02:09:51.509 --> 02:09:53.697
students will engage in Socratic seminars,

02:09:53.697 --> 02:09:54.858
in debate,

02:09:54.858 --> 02:09:57.722
and also engage in a culminating social justice project

02:09:57.722 --> 02:10:00.596
in which they identify a problem in their community

02:10:00.596 --> 02:10:02.384
and propose a solution.

02:10:02.384 --> 02:10:04.106
So we, as a founding team,

02:10:04.106 --> 02:10:05.299
are really excited

02:10:05.299 --> 02:10:07.765
to see the student heroes today.

02:10:07.765 --> 02:10:11.059
Because just like your vision is to have

02:10:11.059 --> 02:10:13.995
children have deep character values,

02:10:13.995 --> 02:10:17.294
that's our vision for every single student at Bloom.

02:10:17.294 --> 02:10:19.951
I have a personal commitment and passion for this work.

02:10:19.951 --> 02:10:22.311
I myself was raised in the inner city Bronx

02:10:22.311 --> 02:10:24.707
in a single parent household

02:10:24.707 --> 02:10:26.726
and faced a number of challenges as a child,

02:10:26.726 --> 02:10:29.085
including having to move to shelter to shelter

02:10:29.085 --> 02:10:30.971
at a very young age.

02:10:30.971 --> 02:10:32.872
On a professional level,

02:10:32.872 --> 02:10:34.469
because of my personal experiences,

02:10:34.469 --> 02:10:36.069
I was prompted to spend

02:10:36.069 --> 02:10:37.492
the entirety of my professional career

02:10:37.492 --> 02:10:39.639
working on behalf of students and families

02:10:39.639 --> 02:10:40.816
in some capacity,

02:10:40.816 --> 02:10:42.888
primarily black and brown students

02:10:42.888 --> 02:10:44.883
who have been historically disenfranchised.

02:10:44.883 --> 02:10:46.661
I served as a traditional public school teacher

02:10:46.661 --> 02:10:48.515
teaching fifth grade in the Bronx

02:10:48.515 --> 02:10:51.789
and experienced great academic success

02:10:51.789 --> 02:10:52.790
with my students.

02:10:52.790 --> 02:10:54.694
I also then became an attorney

02:10:54.694 --> 02:10:56.677
and represented students as a public defender

02:10:56.677 --> 02:10:58.584
in their criminal proceedings.

02:10:58.584 --> 02:11:00.280
I've also represented students

02:11:00.280 --> 02:11:02.359
with special needs against their school districts.

02:11:02.359 --> 02:11:04.239
I'm very, very passionate about students with special needs.

02:11:04.239 --> 02:11:06.206
I've represented children

02:11:06.206 --> 02:11:07.934
in their abuse and neglect proceedings,

02:11:07.934 --> 02:11:09.922
and children aging out of foster care.

02:11:09.922 --> 02:11:11.579
In addition to my expertise,

02:11:11.579 --> 02:11:13.144
I'm incredibly proud

02:11:13.144 --> 02:11:15.060
of the team that we've been able to

02:11:15.060 --> 02:11:16.666
create in our board.

02:11:16.666 --> 02:11:19.357
Our board has a lot of great expertise

02:11:19.357 --> 02:11:21.934
and I will turn it over to Ms. Sarah Ibriham

02:11:21.934 --> 02:11:24.137
to speak about that.

02:11:24.137 --> 02:11:25.135
<v ->Good morning.</v>

02:11:25.135 --> 02:11:26.230
My name is Sarah Ibriham.

02:11:26.230 --> 02:11:27.531
I'm the deputy managing attorney

02:11:27.531 --> 02:11:30.668
of the public law practice group

02:11:30.668 --> 02:11:32.219
at Harris County Attorney's Office.

02:11:32.219 --> 02:11:34.480
And I'm the proposed chair

02:11:34.480 --> 02:11:35.897
of Bloom Academy.

02:11:36.805 --> 02:11:38.570
I spent a number of years teaching

02:11:38.570 --> 02:11:40.186
in Sunnyside.

02:11:40.186 --> 02:11:42.628
And I'm here today to represent the board.

02:11:42.628 --> 02:11:44.640
Our board is comprised

02:11:44.640 --> 02:11:46.639
of highly educated

02:11:46.639 --> 02:11:48.345
and diverse individuals

02:11:48.345 --> 02:11:51.276
who are all mission and vision aligned.

02:11:51.276 --> 02:11:53.170
We, the board,

02:11:53.170 --> 02:11:54.575
and Ms. Sales,

02:11:54.575 --> 02:11:58.200
spent hours with the Sunnyside community

02:11:58.200 --> 02:12:00.830
talking to them about their needs.

02:12:00.830 --> 02:12:02.576
We took that information

02:12:02.576 --> 02:12:04.576
and we used it to create

02:12:06.002 --> 02:12:07.169
Bloom Academy.

02:12:08.027 --> 02:12:09.469
We are so happy

02:12:09.469 --> 02:12:11.025
and proud

02:12:11.025 --> 02:12:13.030
to represent Sunnyside.

02:12:13.030 --> 02:12:14.945
And on behalf of the board,

02:12:14.945 --> 02:12:18.112
thank you so much for having us today.

02:12:26.622 --> 02:12:28.925
<v ->Thank you very much ladies.</v>

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From Elementary School for Education Innovation

02:12:31.383 --> 02:12:32.907
in Lubbock,

02:12:32.907 --> 02:12:34.235
we have Superintendent,

02:12:34.235 --> 02:12:36.641
Proposed Superintendent Miranda Condra

02:12:36.641 --> 02:12:38.808
and board member Gary Fry.

02:12:52.027 --> 02:12:53.098
<v ->Members of the State Board,</v>

02:12:53.098 --> 02:12:55.997
we are just so pleased to be here.

02:12:55.997 --> 02:12:59.747
I say this as someone who has been on this journey

02:12:59.747 --> 02:13:00.914
for six years.

02:13:02.038 --> 02:13:04.543
We have worked very hard

02:13:04.543 --> 02:13:06.191
to get where we are today

02:13:06.191 --> 02:13:09.406
for one very important purpose

02:13:09.406 --> 02:13:12.783
and that is to serve the children in our community.

02:13:12.783 --> 02:13:14.843
What we propose is the Elementary School

02:13:14.843 --> 02:13:16.292
for Education Innovation,

02:13:16.292 --> 02:13:18.167
it is borne out of need.

02:13:18.167 --> 02:13:21.177
It's borne out of frustration

02:13:21.177 --> 02:13:23.427
and it's borne out of hope.

02:13:24.285 --> 02:13:26.019
We are looking to serve our children

02:13:26.019 --> 02:13:27.571
who suffer from dyslexia, ADHD,

02:13:27.571 --> 02:13:31.646
and other language based learning disabilities.

02:13:31.646 --> 02:13:33.729
What we seek to do is

02:13:33.729 --> 02:13:35.903
provide all of our students

02:13:35.903 --> 02:13:37.810
with intensive intervention

02:13:37.810 --> 02:13:40.896
for as long as we have them.

02:13:40.896 --> 02:13:43.573
And then help them transition into the more traditional

02:13:43.573 --> 02:13:45.493
school districts.

02:13:45.493 --> 02:13:47.086
We don't want to take them forever.

02:13:47.086 --> 02:13:48.541
We want to give them what they need

02:13:48.541 --> 02:13:49.804
to be successful,

02:13:49.804 --> 02:13:52.012
and give them the knowledge that they have worth

02:13:52.012 --> 02:13:54.218
and that they're smart.

02:13:54.218 --> 02:13:55.819
Research shows these children

02:13:55.819 --> 02:13:57.884
are smarter than the rest of us.

02:13:57.884 --> 02:13:59.172
They're creative.

02:13:59.172 --> 02:14:00.333
They're out of the box thinkers.

02:14:00.333 --> 02:14:01.367
They're entrepreneurs

02:14:01.367 --> 02:14:02.867
and inverters, and

02:14:06.031 --> 02:14:08.689
change makers of our world.

02:14:08.689 --> 02:14:12.645
And we want to let them do everything they can do.

02:14:12.645 --> 02:14:15.186
We started, as I said, six years ago.

02:14:15.186 --> 02:14:17.965
And we started because I have

02:14:17.965 --> 02:14:19.322
two beautiful daughters,

02:14:19.322 --> 02:14:20.239
one of whom

02:14:21.446 --> 02:14:23.279
has dyslexia and ADHD.

02:14:24.832 --> 02:14:25.841
And I will tell you,

02:14:25.841 --> 02:14:27.067
when we started.

02:14:27.067 --> 02:14:28.245
I'm an attorney

02:14:28.245 --> 02:14:30.359
and I adopted both of my daughters

02:14:30.359 --> 02:14:31.359
from Russia.

02:14:33.515 --> 02:14:34.536
I brought them home.

02:14:34.536 --> 02:14:35.564
And I will tell you,

02:14:35.564 --> 02:14:36.801
I did all the research you're supposed to do.

02:14:36.801 --> 02:14:37.930
I mean I,

02:14:37.930 --> 02:14:38.994
I talked, I cuddled,

02:14:38.994 --> 02:14:40.494
I had interaction.

02:14:41.853 --> 02:14:44.803
And my oldest daughter, Emma,

02:14:44.803 --> 02:14:47.305
was at the Child Development Research Center

02:14:47.305 --> 02:14:48.310
at Tech,

02:14:48.310 --> 02:14:50.727
which is the Cadillac of care

02:14:51.928 --> 02:14:53.048
in Lubbock, Texas.

02:14:53.048 --> 02:14:55.265
And they told me she's gonna be great in school.

02:14:55.265 --> 02:14:56.399
She's gonna do wonderful.

02:14:56.399 --> 02:14:58.268
It's gonna be fantastic.

02:14:58.268 --> 02:15:00.965
And they told me that for two years

02:15:00.965 --> 02:15:02.514
before she got to kindergarten.

02:15:02.514 --> 02:15:05.004
We started kindergarten

02:15:05.004 --> 02:15:06.976
and it wasn't beautiful,

02:15:06.976 --> 02:15:09.206
and it wasn't fantastic.

02:15:09.206 --> 02:15:11.437
And she didn't do well.

02:15:11.437 --> 02:15:13.999
And I didn't know why.

02:15:13.999 --> 02:15:15.764
And I did everything.

02:15:15.764 --> 02:15:17.847
I talked to her teachers.

02:15:19.088 --> 02:15:20.922
I said I don't understand.

02:15:20.922 --> 02:15:23.954
They said you need to go home and work with her.

02:15:23.954 --> 02:15:24.871
And I said,

02:15:26.458 --> 02:15:28.710
you're a trained professional educator

02:15:28.710 --> 02:15:31.955
and you don't know what to do.

02:15:31.955 --> 02:15:34.401
And you want her to go home and work with her lawyer.

02:15:34.401 --> 02:15:37.131
(laughter)

02:15:37.131 --> 02:15:38.464
I see a problem.

02:15:39.552 --> 02:15:40.681
And I will tell you,

02:15:40.681 --> 02:15:43.910
I finally had her tested for dyslexia.

02:15:43.910 --> 02:15:44.911
I will be honest,

02:15:44.911 --> 02:15:47.371
I did not believe she had dyslexia.

02:15:47.371 --> 02:15:49.115
But I prayed she did

02:15:49.115 --> 02:15:51.662
cause then I might know something to do.

02:15:51.662 --> 02:15:54.474
I couldn't get her tested in Lubbock, Texas.

02:15:54.474 --> 02:15:56.227
I had to take her to Dallas

02:15:56.227 --> 02:15:58.164
to the Scottish Rite Hospital.

02:15:58.164 --> 02:16:00.695
And I pulled every masonic string I had,

02:16:00.695 --> 02:16:02.112
and I have a lot.

02:16:04.404 --> 02:16:07.475
It still took me six months to get her in.

02:16:07.475 --> 02:16:08.914
I got her tested.

02:16:08.914 --> 02:16:11.554
They said well, we think she's probably got dyslexia

02:16:11.554 --> 02:16:12.878
but her ADHD is so bad

02:16:12.878 --> 02:16:14.045
we can't tell.

02:16:16.306 --> 02:16:18.462
My daughter's never in trouble at school,

02:16:18.462 --> 02:16:19.295
ever.

02:16:20.508 --> 02:16:22.208
They said we're sure she's not.

02:16:22.208 --> 02:16:24.076
She's a delightful child.

02:16:24.076 --> 02:16:26.011
And then I started to understand

02:16:26.011 --> 02:16:27.960
that ADHD often looks different in girls

02:16:27.960 --> 02:16:29.631
than it does in boys.

02:16:29.631 --> 02:16:30.921
That's the inattentive type.

02:16:30.921 --> 02:16:33.211
They said we can't give you a diagnosis.

02:16:33.211 --> 02:16:34.829
You're gonna have to take her back to Lubbock

02:16:34.829 --> 02:16:36.051
and you bring her back in a year,

02:16:36.051 --> 02:16:38.915
and we'll test her again.

02:16:38.915 --> 02:16:39.960
So I went back to Lubbock

02:16:39.960 --> 02:16:42.130
and I still couldn't get her any services

02:16:42.130 --> 02:16:44.824
because I didn't have a diagnosis.

02:16:44.824 --> 02:16:46.313
And all of my teacher friends,

02:16:46.313 --> 02:16:48.147
all of my parent friends were telling me

02:16:48.147 --> 02:16:49.619
you can't work with her,

02:16:49.619 --> 02:16:51.651
you've got to let her get behind.

02:16:51.651 --> 02:16:53.079
Because if you work with her,

02:16:53.079 --> 02:16:55.405
she can't get services.

02:16:55.405 --> 02:16:57.816
I traveled around the world twice

02:16:57.816 --> 02:16:59.491
to bring this baby home.

02:16:59.491 --> 02:17:02.324
I wasn't gonna let her get behind.

02:17:03.319 --> 02:17:04.152
So I,

02:17:05.578 --> 02:17:06.868
I was doing more research

02:17:06.868 --> 02:17:08.573
and I was able to get a grant.

02:17:08.573 --> 02:17:10.323
And we started a program,

02:17:10.323 --> 02:17:11.568
the Institute for Creative Learners

02:17:11.568 --> 02:17:13.780
where we did dyslexia intervention.

02:17:13.780 --> 02:17:15.179
We didn't require a diagnosis,

02:17:15.179 --> 02:17:16.863
we just helped kids.

02:17:16.863 --> 02:17:18.213
And we were able to do intervention

02:17:18.213 --> 02:17:19.699
at Wright Elementary School

02:17:19.699 --> 02:17:22.032
where we helped a lot of kids.

02:17:22.032 --> 02:17:23.635
And we were able to help them read better

02:17:23.635 --> 02:17:25.489
and beyond target,

02:17:25.489 --> 02:17:27.371
and go from tier,

02:17:27.371 --> 02:17:29.420
tier three readers

02:17:29.420 --> 02:17:31.129
to tier one readers

02:17:31.129 --> 02:17:32.129
by February.

02:17:33.949 --> 02:17:37.027
We figured out that there's a lot we could do.

02:17:37.027 --> 02:17:39.132
And we, again, continued to work and said

02:17:39.132 --> 02:17:40.689
how are we gonna help more kids?

02:17:40.689 --> 02:17:42.530
We can't help just these few kids.

02:17:42.530 --> 02:17:44.418
And a friend of mine said,

02:17:44.418 --> 02:17:46.118
well wouldn't it just be easier to get Emma a tutor.

02:17:46.118 --> 02:17:49.701
I said yeah, but what about the other kids.

02:17:50.557 --> 02:17:52.504
What are we gonna do about them?

02:17:52.504 --> 02:17:54.108
And so, the more we talked in the community,

02:17:54.108 --> 02:17:56.058
the more we found out that there were others

02:17:56.058 --> 02:17:57.565
who were having the same frustration,

02:17:57.565 --> 02:17:58.585
the same challenges,

02:17:58.585 --> 02:18:02.449
and their children were dying inside.

02:18:02.449 --> 02:18:04.256
And so we started to bring together

02:18:04.256 --> 02:18:05.599
community organizations.

02:18:05.599 --> 02:18:07.271
We worked with the Y.

02:18:07.271 --> 02:18:08.562
We worked with the Boys and Girls Club.

02:18:08.562 --> 02:18:10.657
We worked with the Lubbock Home School Association.

02:18:10.657 --> 02:18:12.790
We worked with the Lubbock Arts Alliance.

02:18:12.790 --> 02:18:14.963
We worked with every community organization

02:18:14.963 --> 02:18:16.894
that would talk to us.

02:18:16.894 --> 02:18:18.556
And we brought together Texas Tech University,

02:18:18.556 --> 02:18:20.784
professors from Texas Tech University

02:18:20.784 --> 02:18:22.600
and West Texas A&M University.

02:18:22.600 --> 02:18:25.092
And we came together and said

02:18:25.092 --> 02:18:26.602
how can we help the kids in our community.

02:18:26.602 --> 02:18:28.852
And we came upon a charter.

02:18:31.488 --> 02:18:33.277
And that's how we can do it.

02:18:33.277 --> 02:18:34.763
And we knew we could bring together

02:18:34.763 --> 02:18:36.536
all of our different organizations,

02:18:36.536 --> 02:18:37.701
we could work together

02:18:37.701 --> 02:18:39.311
and we could serve the children

02:18:39.311 --> 02:18:40.310
in our community.

02:18:40.310 --> 02:18:41.957
We epitomize the charter school movement.

02:18:41.957 --> 02:18:42.790
We are it.

02:18:44.197 --> 02:18:46.468
We are individuals in our community

02:18:46.468 --> 02:18:49.907
who have identified a need in our community

02:18:49.907 --> 02:18:54.157
and we seek to serve the children in our community.

02:18:55.047 --> 02:18:57.957
And we ask for your help.

02:18:57.957 --> 02:19:00.269
We are ready and available to answer any questions,

02:19:00.269 --> 02:19:02.203
and provide whatever information we can

02:19:02.203 --> 02:19:05.165
to this body and we thank you so much

02:19:05.165 --> 02:19:08.332
for taking the time to look into this.

02:19:10.007 --> 02:19:11.007
<v ->And I'm Gary Fry.</v>

02:19:11.007 --> 02:19:12.519
I'm representing the board.

02:19:12.519 --> 02:19:14.451
Miranda reached out to me because

02:19:14.451 --> 02:19:16.452
I do the pesky things.

02:19:16.452 --> 02:19:18.099
If you notice the money tie

02:19:18.099 --> 02:19:20.359
of generating non-traditional sources for

02:19:20.359 --> 02:19:22.256
public schools,

02:19:22.256 --> 02:19:23.506
work at Maynard

02:19:25.461 --> 02:19:26.350
in oh lord,

02:19:26.350 --> 02:19:27.183
early 90s.

02:19:29.060 --> 02:19:31.748
I was Lubbock Cooper's math teacher

02:19:31.748 --> 02:19:32.909
who wrote a grant

02:19:32.909 --> 02:19:36.498
who then became the dyslexia coordinator

02:19:36.498 --> 02:19:38.081
slash grant writer.

02:19:39.278 --> 02:19:41.518
Generated enough cash quickly

02:19:41.518 --> 02:19:45.716
that they said we could hire good teachers now,

02:19:45.716 --> 02:19:48.452
so you just go get more money, and so forth.

02:19:48.452 --> 02:19:50.708
17 years, I had a three word job description.

02:19:50.708 --> 02:19:54.161
This is an area that is also like Miranda,

02:19:54.161 --> 02:19:56.221
not quite as passionate

02:19:56.221 --> 02:19:58.321
because well it was my youngest son

02:19:58.321 --> 02:20:01.070
and he's an interestingly doubly gifted

02:20:01.070 --> 02:20:02.487
GT and LD student

02:20:04.650 --> 02:20:07.567
who tries the patience of teachers.

02:20:09.691 --> 02:20:13.878
And then my oldest son is a special ed teacher.

02:20:13.878 --> 02:20:15.308
So that's always been fun,

02:20:15.308 --> 02:20:17.474
but as Miranda said,

02:20:17.474 --> 02:20:19.115
we're here to do this.

02:20:19.115 --> 02:20:20.875
I've had a passion for this

02:20:20.875 --> 02:20:24.513
and I have permission to use one student

02:20:24.513 --> 02:20:25.625
that I had at Spade, Texas

02:20:25.625 --> 02:20:29.767
where I started as a migrant special ed teacher, Rocky.

02:20:29.767 --> 02:20:31.806
Rocky was a kid

02:20:31.806 --> 02:20:34.658
that was remarkably smart,

02:20:34.658 --> 02:20:36.825
and could not read a lick.

02:20:40.160 --> 02:20:42.243
So he knew he was stupid.

02:20:43.925 --> 02:20:46.029
I finally convinced him after about two years,

02:20:46.029 --> 02:20:48.821
if we didn't have this reading,

02:20:48.821 --> 02:20:50.566
you'd be the smartest person

02:20:50.566 --> 02:20:52.514
cause you can tear any machine down,

02:20:52.514 --> 02:20:53.525
put it back together

02:20:53.525 --> 02:20:56.321
and if need be, build the parts.

02:20:56.321 --> 02:20:58.359
And I still remember when he got

02:20:58.359 --> 02:21:01.705
the first Kurzweil 3000 reading machine.

02:21:01.705 --> 02:21:03.541
Rocky looked and went,

02:21:03.541 --> 02:21:05.485
I can go to college

02:21:05.485 --> 02:21:06.772
cause I can build a computer

02:21:06.772 --> 02:21:08.374
and it'll read to me.

02:21:08.374 --> 02:21:09.990
(laughter)

02:21:09.990 --> 02:21:11.739
And so I was glad when Miranda reached out to me

02:21:11.739 --> 02:21:13.469
and we put this together.

02:21:13.469 --> 02:21:16.478
I greatly appreciate the board considering us

02:21:16.478 --> 02:21:17.895
for this charter.

02:21:21.252 --> 02:21:22.696
He's actually in Little

02:21:22.696 --> 02:21:26.216
(microphone cuts out)

02:21:26.216 --> 02:21:28.867
In Littlefield, Texas.

02:21:28.867 --> 02:21:31.830
I've reminded him that the three business

02:21:31.830 --> 02:21:34.779
he owns, he should be giving me 10%

02:21:34.779 --> 02:21:37.236
cause that's only religious.

02:21:37.236 --> 02:21:38.726
But no, he's doing quite well

02:21:38.726 --> 02:21:40.352
and it's just amazing

02:21:40.352 --> 02:21:43.769
because he finally realized he was smart.

02:21:47.176 --> 02:21:48.637
<v Ms. Bahorich>We'll have time for some question</v>

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if some folks have them.

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Did you have something,

02:21:51.035 --> 02:21:53.380
or just some remark you wanted to make?

02:21:53.380 --> 02:21:54.427
What's that?

02:21:54.427 --> 02:21:56.760
(inaudible)

02:21:59.514 --> 02:22:00.520
<v ->I'm so excited.</v>

02:22:00.520 --> 02:22:02.422
I'm tearing up.

02:22:02.422 --> 02:22:04.755
(inaudible)

02:22:07.990 --> 02:22:10.740
(microphone cuts out)

02:22:12.880 --> 02:22:14.757
Charter schools started

02:22:14.757 --> 02:22:17.852
that I had a dream that maybe

02:22:17.852 --> 02:22:19.987
somebody eventually,

02:22:19.987 --> 02:22:22.113
we would get a charter school for

02:22:22.113 --> 02:22:24.281
the dyslexic, okay,

02:22:24.281 --> 02:22:25.862
and ADHD.

02:22:25.862 --> 02:22:26.894
God bless you.

02:22:26.894 --> 02:22:28.180
I am thrilled,

02:22:28.180 --> 02:22:29.905
absolutely thrilled.

02:22:29.905 --> 02:22:32.405
<v Miranda>Thank you so much.</v>

02:22:43.912 --> 02:22:45.822
<v ->What I'm gonna do, members,</v>

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is just kind of go through

02:22:46.951 --> 02:22:48.133
the other two,

02:22:48.133 --> 02:22:49.814
and if there are some specific questions

02:22:49.814 --> 02:22:51.836
that anybody had.

02:22:51.836 --> 02:22:54.169
(inaudible)

02:22:56.343 --> 02:22:57.345
<v ->Thank you both.</v>

02:22:57.345 --> 02:22:58.178
I'm sorry.

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The next two representatives we have

02:23:01.638 --> 02:23:04.507
are representatives from Promesa Academy Charter School

02:23:04.507 --> 02:23:06.350
in San Antonio.

02:23:06.350 --> 02:23:09.055
And actually we have four representatives,

02:23:09.055 --> 02:23:11.429
but we have Proposed Superintendent

02:23:11.429 --> 02:23:12.889
Ambica Donny.

02:23:12.889 --> 02:23:16.246
We have board president, Sally Aguilar Robertson.

02:23:16.246 --> 02:23:19.434
And they are also accompanied by two board members,

02:23:19.434 --> 02:23:21.519
Ariana Rodriguez

02:23:21.519 --> 02:23:23.102
and Molly Campbell.

02:23:29.499 --> 02:23:30.500
<v ->Good morning.</v>

02:23:30.500 --> 02:23:31.696
I think we're just five minutes away

02:23:31.696 --> 02:23:33.066
from the afternoon.

02:23:33.066 --> 02:23:34.899
My name is Ambica Donny

02:23:34.899 --> 02:23:36.551
and I am the Proposed Superintendent

02:23:36.551 --> 02:23:38.258
of Promesa Academy,

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a kindergarten through fifth grade charter school

02:23:40.323 --> 02:23:42.644
for San Antonio's inner city west side.

02:23:42.644 --> 02:23:44.587
I want to begin by thanking you all,

02:23:44.587 --> 02:23:46.062
the SBOE members for giving us the opportunity

02:23:46.062 --> 02:23:48.166
to be here today

02:23:48.166 --> 02:23:50.276
and to speak to you about the vision

02:23:50.276 --> 02:23:51.548
for Promesa Academy.

02:23:51.548 --> 02:23:52.982
And also to thank the TEA

02:23:52.982 --> 02:23:54.247
for their due diligence

02:23:54.247 --> 02:23:55.365
throughout this process,

02:23:55.365 --> 02:23:56.710
and their support and guidance

02:23:56.710 --> 02:23:58.061
as we apply for a charter

02:23:58.061 --> 02:23:59.642
in the state of Texas.

02:23:59.642 --> 02:24:01.442
Ms. Mose said this already,

02:24:01.442 --> 02:24:03.640
but today is truly a beautiful day.

02:24:03.640 --> 02:24:06.215
It is a day that the founding team

02:24:06.215 --> 02:24:08.161
of Promesa Academy has been waiting for

02:24:08.161 --> 02:24:09.716
since we submitted our application

02:24:09.716 --> 02:24:12.389
on December 4, 2017.

02:24:12.389 --> 02:24:14.643
We also recognize that this is an important day

02:24:14.643 --> 02:24:15.846
for all of you.

02:24:15.846 --> 02:24:17.920
It is a day where you have the immense responsibility

02:24:17.920 --> 02:24:21.176
of granting new charters in the state of Texas.

02:24:21.176 --> 02:24:24.347
And we know that decision does not come lightly.

02:24:24.347 --> 02:24:25.969
Mr. Rowley articulated

02:24:25.969 --> 02:24:27.495
this beautifully yesterday

02:24:27.495 --> 02:24:28.815
in the committee session,

02:24:28.815 --> 02:24:30.424
as he said there are three things

02:24:30.424 --> 02:24:31.677
we truly have to demonstrate

02:24:31.677 --> 02:24:33.626
to be able to be granted a new charter.

02:24:33.626 --> 02:24:35.799
A need in our community.

02:24:35.799 --> 02:24:37.996
Innovation as a new charter.

02:24:37.996 --> 02:24:40.663
And the capacity to deliver the vision

02:24:40.663 --> 02:24:43.337
that we have written in our charter.

02:24:43.337 --> 02:24:45.203
So if I could speak to those three areas

02:24:45.203 --> 02:24:47.153
to use the the full board to convince you

02:24:47.153 --> 02:24:49.450
of what we are promising to do

02:24:49.450 --> 02:24:51.320
in the city of San Antonio.

02:24:51.320 --> 02:24:54.073
Let me begin by discussing the need in our community

02:24:54.073 --> 02:24:56.276
because before this founding team

02:24:56.276 --> 02:24:58.072
decided to propose a charter,

02:24:58.072 --> 02:24:59.925
we wanted to make sure that there was a need

02:24:59.925 --> 02:25:01.416
for what we were proposing.

02:25:01.416 --> 02:25:03.748
And we are choosing to locate in the inner city

02:25:03.748 --> 02:25:05.433
west side of San Antonia.

02:25:05.433 --> 02:25:06.583
More specifically,

02:25:06.583 --> 02:25:08.418
the 78207 zip code of San Antonio.

02:25:08.418 --> 02:25:11.758
It is a region where over 90% of children

02:25:11.758 --> 02:25:15.865
come from economically disadvantaged families.

02:25:15.865 --> 02:25:17.673
It is also a region where the median income

02:25:17.673 --> 02:25:21.216
is 20,000 dollars below San Antonio's median income.

02:25:21.216 --> 02:25:23.173
When you couple that demographic data

02:25:23.173 --> 02:25:26.832
with a lack of access to quality public education

02:25:26.832 --> 02:25:28.038
in that zip code,

02:25:28.038 --> 02:25:30.151
you will see that it is incredibly hard

02:25:30.151 --> 02:25:32.593
for a child growing up in that community

02:25:32.593 --> 02:25:34.162
to have the same opportunities

02:25:34.162 --> 02:25:35.937
that many of us have had.

02:25:35.937 --> 02:25:37.509
Currently in that specific zip code,

02:25:37.509 --> 02:25:39.837
out of the nine elementary schools,

02:25:39.837 --> 02:25:41.646
there are four that are ranked

02:25:41.646 --> 02:25:42.928
as improvement required.

02:25:42.928 --> 02:25:46.317
And only 18%, on average, of third graders

02:25:46.317 --> 02:25:48.453
are meeting or mastering

02:25:48.453 --> 02:25:52.102
third grade STAAR reading standards.

02:25:52.102 --> 02:25:53.667
And I'll let that sink in for a second

02:25:53.667 --> 02:25:55.067
because we're talking about

02:25:55.067 --> 02:25:56.817
18% of students.

02:25:57.938 --> 02:25:58.932
The second thing that I'd like to bring up

02:25:58.932 --> 02:26:00.349
is our innovation

02:26:01.254 --> 02:26:03.311
and this is something that our team is incredibly

02:26:03.311 --> 02:26:04.574
excited about.

02:26:04.574 --> 02:26:06.582
We are ready to push the bar

02:26:06.582 --> 02:26:07.997
for what is possible

02:26:07.997 --> 02:26:09.432
in the elementary years.

02:26:09.432 --> 02:26:11.875
I used to be a middle and high school math teacher

02:26:11.875 --> 02:26:13.324
for over six years.

02:26:13.324 --> 02:26:15.413
And I constantly saw that my students

02:26:15.413 --> 02:26:17.544
coming to me in middle school

02:26:17.544 --> 02:26:20.391
had oftentimes a very negative opinion of mathematics.

02:26:20.391 --> 02:26:22.943
But they also lacked the foundational knowledge

02:26:22.943 --> 02:26:25.017
to truly master the subject

02:26:25.017 --> 02:26:26.772
at the level they're capable of.

02:26:26.772 --> 02:26:28.916
And so I decided to go into the elementary years

02:26:28.916 --> 02:26:30.866
and to start teaching elementary math.

02:26:30.866 --> 02:26:32.379
And as I did that,

02:26:32.379 --> 02:26:34.371
I saw such incredible power

02:26:34.371 --> 02:26:36.836
of being an individual in the elementary classroom

02:26:36.836 --> 02:26:38.920
with the content knowledge

02:26:38.920 --> 02:26:41.366
to truly challenge our youngest learners.

02:26:41.366 --> 02:26:43.191
So what we are proposing to do

02:26:43.191 --> 02:26:46.042
is to start departmentalizing starting in kindergarten

02:26:46.042 --> 02:26:47.932
so that our youngest, most passionate,

02:26:47.932 --> 02:26:49.918
most inquisitive learners

02:26:49.918 --> 02:26:52.142
have the teachers in front of them

02:26:52.142 --> 02:26:54.421
who are capable to answer the beautiful questions

02:26:54.421 --> 02:26:55.419
they ask

02:26:55.419 --> 02:26:57.134
and to truly challenge them to the levels

02:26:57.134 --> 02:26:58.923
that they are capable of being challenged.

02:26:58.923 --> 02:27:01.449
And finally, as we look at the founding team,

02:27:01.449 --> 02:27:03.788
some of whom are here in front of you today,

02:27:03.788 --> 02:27:08.324
we have a board of eight incredible San Antonio residents

02:27:08.324 --> 02:27:11.136
who are deeply committed to the vision of Promesa

02:27:11.136 --> 02:27:13.319
and who are also deeply committed to the student

02:27:13.319 --> 02:27:15.167
of the west side of our city.

02:27:15.167 --> 02:27:16.867
They come with a range of expertise

02:27:16.867 --> 02:27:18.579
and most importantly,

02:27:18.579 --> 02:27:20.469
a commitment to ensuring that

02:27:20.469 --> 02:27:24.142
every child has access to the education they deserve.

02:27:24.142 --> 02:27:27.045
I myself am an educator for over eight years now.

02:27:27.045 --> 02:27:30.113
And I'm truly excited for this opportunity

02:27:30.113 --> 02:27:31.885
and believe that we can bring something

02:27:31.885 --> 02:27:32.950
to San Antonio

02:27:32.950 --> 02:27:34.111
that doesn't exist.

02:27:34.111 --> 02:27:35.875
And that together, we can ensure

02:27:35.875 --> 02:27:38.099
that more students in our city

02:27:38.099 --> 02:27:39.888
have access to the public education they deserve.

02:27:39.888 --> 02:27:42.378
Thank you again for having us here today.

02:27:42.378 --> 02:27:44.031
And I'd like to give my board members

02:27:44.031 --> 02:27:47.281
an opportunity to introduce themselves.

02:27:50.128 --> 02:27:51.549
<v ->Thank you Ms. Donny.</v>

02:27:51.549 --> 02:27:53.174
My name is Sally Aguilar Robertson

02:27:53.174 --> 02:27:54.777
and I am the proposed chair

02:27:54.777 --> 02:27:56.494
for Promesa Academy.

02:27:56.494 --> 02:27:57.939
I will also be serving

02:27:57.939 --> 02:28:01.383
in the fiance and the governance committee.

02:28:01.383 --> 02:28:03.098
First I would like to thank you

02:28:03.098 --> 02:28:04.986
for allowing us to be here today.

02:28:04.986 --> 02:28:07.634
We are truly grateful for the opportunity

02:28:07.634 --> 02:28:08.888
that you've given us

02:28:08.888 --> 02:28:10.558
in allowing us to present to you

02:28:10.558 --> 02:28:11.891
Promesa Academy.

02:28:13.273 --> 02:28:16.422
We are eight San Antonia residents.

02:28:16.422 --> 02:28:18.755
We came together as a board.

02:28:21.139 --> 02:28:24.306
And we have a wide array of expertise.

02:28:25.150 --> 02:28:28.354
But we got together because we want to serve

02:28:28.354 --> 02:28:29.521
the community.

02:28:31.335 --> 02:28:32.816
We have a thorough understanding

02:28:32.816 --> 02:28:35.802
of the work, the commitment,

02:28:35.802 --> 02:28:36.813
the responsibility

02:28:36.813 --> 02:28:40.053
that we are taking into our hands.

02:28:40.053 --> 02:28:42.053
And we acknowledge that.

02:28:43.337 --> 02:28:44.735
All of us strongly believe

02:28:44.735 --> 02:28:46.452
in the vision that we have set

02:28:46.452 --> 02:28:47.987
for Promesa Academy,

02:28:47.987 --> 02:28:51.204
the vision that we have set for ourselves.

02:28:51.204 --> 02:28:52.300
Our goal as a group

02:28:52.300 --> 02:28:54.346
is to be able to make

02:28:54.346 --> 02:28:55.899
a positive impact

02:28:55.899 --> 02:28:59.399
in the lives of children in our community.

02:29:00.878 --> 02:29:01.711
Thank you.

02:29:05.818 --> 02:29:06.896
<v ->Hello, my name is Molly Campbell.</v>

02:29:06.896 --> 02:29:09.150
Professionally, I am a

02:29:09.150 --> 02:29:11.042
commercial transactions attorney

02:29:11.042 --> 02:29:12.892
serving as corporate counsel to

02:29:12.892 --> 02:29:15.975
a number of large commercial clients.

02:29:16.909 --> 02:29:18.946
But personally, I am a foster parent

02:29:18.946 --> 02:29:20.259
who has seen

02:29:20.259 --> 02:29:21.800
first hand, really, the vast differences

02:29:21.800 --> 02:29:22.967
that exist for

02:29:24.096 --> 02:29:26.552
educational opportunities for my birth

02:29:26.552 --> 02:29:27.721
and adopted children

02:29:27.721 --> 02:29:30.201
and those that are in my home only for a season

02:29:30.201 --> 02:29:32.157
in the foster care system.

02:29:32.157 --> 02:29:35.260
And so that is one reason why I am exceptionally passionate

02:29:35.260 --> 02:29:37.723
about education equality

02:29:37.723 --> 02:29:40.011
and about the mission of Promesa Academy.

02:29:40.011 --> 02:29:41.852
And I am so excited to any any questions

02:29:41.852 --> 02:29:43.852
that you may have today.

02:29:46.086 --> 02:29:47.153
<v ->Hi everyone.</v>

02:29:47.153 --> 02:29:48.237
My name is Ariana Rodriguez.

02:29:48.237 --> 02:29:50.261
And I am the proposed secretary of Promesa Academy.

02:29:50.261 --> 02:29:53.202
I will also serve as a member of the development committee.

02:29:53.202 --> 02:29:54.456
I am extremely honored

02:29:54.456 --> 02:29:56.608
and I'm really humbled to be a founding board member

02:29:56.608 --> 02:29:57.618
of Promesa Academy

02:29:57.618 --> 02:29:58.764
because I truly reflect

02:29:58.764 --> 02:30:00.440
and I see myself in the,

02:30:00.440 --> 02:30:01.747
and our future students.

02:30:01.747 --> 02:30:03.154
I too grew up in a low income community

02:30:03.154 --> 02:30:04.287
by immigrant parents,

02:30:04.287 --> 02:30:06.296
parents that came to this country

02:30:06.296 --> 02:30:07.858
because they wanted a better future

02:30:07.858 --> 02:30:08.856
for their children.

02:30:08.856 --> 02:30:10.345
So I, you know,

02:30:10.345 --> 02:30:12.200
I'm so excited that I'm giving back to my community.

02:30:12.200 --> 02:30:14.001
For the past nine years,

02:30:14.001 --> 02:30:16.014
I've been serving the San Antonio community

02:30:16.014 --> 02:30:17.710
in various ways.

02:30:17.710 --> 02:30:20.152
I've serve as a digital marketing manager,

02:30:20.152 --> 02:30:22.595
currently, for a non-profit organization.

02:30:22.595 --> 02:30:24.432
And I've also been a big sister

02:30:24.432 --> 02:30:27.712
through Big Brothers, Big Sisters Program.

02:30:27.712 --> 02:30:28.782
So I'm extremely excited.

02:30:28.782 --> 02:30:30.141
I'm excited to be here

02:30:30.141 --> 02:30:31.210
and I look forward to

02:30:31.210 --> 02:30:33.181
what Promesa can do for our future student

02:30:33.181 --> 02:30:35.848
on the west side of San Antonio.

02:30:40.887 --> 02:30:42.780
<v ->Thank you, ladies.</v>

02:30:42.780 --> 02:30:45.671
And finally from Rev Preparatory Charter School

02:30:45.671 --> 02:30:46.860
in Houston,

02:30:46.860 --> 02:30:48.296
we have Proposed Superintendent

02:30:48.296 --> 02:30:49.730
Tracy Tibido

02:30:49.730 --> 02:30:51.295
and proposed board president,

02:30:51.295 --> 02:30:52.212
Eric Gomez.

02:30:59.797 --> 02:31:00.850
<v ->Good morning, everyone.</v>

02:31:00.850 --> 02:31:02.704
Thank you again for the opportunity to be here

02:31:02.704 --> 02:31:04.228
and address this State Board

02:31:04.228 --> 02:31:06.012
and also thanks to the TEA

02:31:06.012 --> 02:31:07.365
for being able to

02:31:07.365 --> 02:31:09.555
go through this rigorous process

02:31:09.555 --> 02:31:11.037
and get to this step.

02:31:11.037 --> 02:31:12.499
As introduced, my name is Tracy Tibido.

02:31:12.499 --> 02:31:14.318
I am a native Houstonian.

02:31:14.318 --> 02:31:17.053
And actually spent a significant amount of time

02:31:17.053 --> 02:31:19.349
growing up in our proposed community.

02:31:19.349 --> 02:31:22.932
My story is one of education is everything.

02:31:23.997 --> 02:31:25.742
Education changed the whole trajectory

02:31:25.742 --> 02:31:27.023
I had in life.

02:31:27.023 --> 02:31:28.865
And that was determined by my mother

02:31:28.865 --> 02:31:30.458
making a decision early on of

02:31:30.458 --> 02:31:33.677
making sure that we had the highest

02:31:33.677 --> 02:31:35.927
quality of education, K-12.

02:31:36.968 --> 02:31:38.789
She made a decision

02:31:38.789 --> 02:31:40.901
that attending the schools in our neighborhood

02:31:40.901 --> 02:31:41.964
that we were zoned to

02:31:41.964 --> 02:31:43.161
were actually not going to give us

02:31:43.161 --> 02:31:44.340
the best opportunity.

02:31:44.340 --> 02:31:46.012
And so though I attended public schools in Houston,

02:31:46.012 --> 02:31:48.421
I attended schools that were actually

02:31:48.421 --> 02:31:50.576
upwards of an hour away

02:31:50.576 --> 02:31:52.821
that were in wealthier neighborhoods.

02:31:52.821 --> 02:31:54.386
And I will definitely look back and say

02:31:54.386 --> 02:31:55.822
because of that opportunity,

02:31:55.822 --> 02:31:56.971
my whole life

02:31:56.971 --> 02:31:57.971
was changed.

02:31:58.821 --> 02:32:01.318
I was a proud graduate of the University of Texas

02:32:01.318 --> 02:32:02.319
here in Austin.

02:32:02.319 --> 02:32:04.455
And from there, I was able to go get an MBA

02:32:04.455 --> 02:32:05.810
from the University of Michigan,

02:32:05.810 --> 02:32:07.814
and have been involved in education

02:32:07.814 --> 02:32:09.026
and corporate sector

02:32:09.026 --> 02:32:10.558
for over 13 years.

02:32:10.558 --> 02:32:13.674
I wanted to say that because it leads into the need

02:32:13.674 --> 02:32:15.193
that we have identified

02:32:15.193 --> 02:32:16.618
for Rev Preparatory Charter School

02:32:16.618 --> 02:32:18.177
in the central southwest area of Houston.

02:32:18.177 --> 02:32:20.344
Number one, unfortunately,

02:32:21.228 --> 02:32:23.414
things have not changed that much since when

02:32:23.414 --> 02:32:24.886
I was a pre-teen.

02:32:24.886 --> 02:32:27.173
And the educational opportunities

02:32:27.173 --> 02:32:29.669
are either the same or actually worse

02:32:29.669 --> 02:32:31.690
for the students that are zoned

02:32:31.690 --> 02:32:33.154
in that community.

02:32:33.154 --> 02:32:34.660
Some of the

02:32:34.660 --> 02:32:35.925
strongest data that I've seen

02:32:35.925 --> 02:32:38.073
is that nearly 40% of students

02:32:38.073 --> 02:32:40.781
are actually taking the same route

02:32:40.781 --> 02:32:42.008
that I did as a child,

02:32:42.008 --> 02:32:43.864
and actually transferring out of the zone

02:32:43.864 --> 02:32:45.368
to attend either other public schools,

02:32:45.368 --> 02:32:46.627
other district schools in Houston,

02:32:46.627 --> 02:32:49.717
or other charters outside of the neighborhood.

02:32:49.717 --> 02:32:52.487
This is one of those primary areas that

02:32:52.487 --> 02:32:55.040
I understand that story.

02:32:55.040 --> 02:32:56.273
I understand that journey.

02:32:56.273 --> 02:32:57.483
And I understand

02:32:57.483 --> 02:32:58.613
how hard it is for a child

02:32:58.613 --> 02:33:00.421
to have to wake up

02:33:00.421 --> 02:33:02.074
an hour or two earlier every morning

02:33:02.074 --> 02:33:04.071
and not get home until an hour or two

02:33:04.071 --> 02:33:05.498
later than their peers

02:33:05.498 --> 02:33:07.261
because of travel.

02:33:07.261 --> 02:33:10.585
Additionally, when we started this journey,

02:33:10.585 --> 02:33:11.418
I'm sorry.

02:33:12.315 --> 02:33:13.477
I should have introduced him earlier,

02:33:13.477 --> 02:33:15.482
our proposed board chair, Eric Gomez

02:33:15.482 --> 02:33:17.338
is also here with us.

02:33:17.338 --> 02:33:19.079
But as we start this journey,

02:33:19.079 --> 02:33:21.730
our team really wanted to identify

02:33:21.730 --> 02:33:23.899
ways that we could really create a program

02:33:23.899 --> 02:33:25.258
that stood out

02:33:25.258 --> 02:33:27.262
in our community.

02:33:27.262 --> 02:33:29.135
Some of those ways that we've identified

02:33:29.135 --> 02:33:31.326
for kindergarten through eighth grade school

02:33:31.326 --> 02:33:33.434
is a two teacher model

02:33:33.434 --> 02:33:35.505
in our kindergarten through second grade classes.

02:33:35.505 --> 02:33:37.299
This is something that does not currently exist

02:33:37.299 --> 02:33:38.346
in the community,

02:33:38.346 --> 02:33:40.375
but we believe it further drives our mission,

02:33:40.375 --> 02:33:41.743
especially in literacy,

02:33:41.743 --> 02:33:43.868
to make sure that students have individualized supports

02:33:43.868 --> 02:33:46.870
and a lower student to teacher ratio

02:33:46.870 --> 02:33:48.521
in those early years,

02:33:48.521 --> 02:33:49.895
which we think make the

02:33:49.895 --> 02:33:51.725
huge difference in making sure that students

02:33:51.725 --> 02:33:54.026
are able to read on or above grade level

02:33:54.026 --> 02:33:56.044
by the time they reach third grade.

02:33:56.044 --> 02:33:58.220
Additionally, one thing we were

02:33:58.220 --> 02:34:00.283
very excited to implement

02:34:00.283 --> 02:34:01.906
and that we've seen a lot of positive feedback

02:34:01.906 --> 02:34:02.934
from the community

02:34:02.934 --> 02:34:04.482
in terms of sharing this with parents,

02:34:04.482 --> 02:34:05.986
is the Spanish for all initiative.

02:34:05.986 --> 02:34:09.782
So this exists in some schools in Houston,

02:34:09.782 --> 02:34:11.493
but we just really wanted to reiterate

02:34:11.493 --> 02:34:12.713
starting in kindergarten

02:34:12.713 --> 02:34:14.143
all the way through eighth grade,

02:34:14.143 --> 02:34:15.236
all of our students

02:34:15.236 --> 02:34:17.077
will have the opportunity to take

02:34:17.077 --> 02:34:18.909
at least 30 to 60 minutes of Spanish.

02:34:18.909 --> 02:34:21.986
And another real reason we think that's gonna be

02:34:21.986 --> 02:34:24.133
huge in terms of getting our students prepared

02:34:24.133 --> 02:34:25.881
to go to the top high schools in Houston,

02:34:25.881 --> 02:34:28.023
and additionally the top colleges

02:34:28.023 --> 02:34:30.085
is the opportunity that

02:34:30.085 --> 02:34:32.142
the students who are native Spanish speakers,

02:34:32.142 --> 02:34:33.860
which we believe will be a significant

02:34:33.860 --> 02:34:35.340
portion of our,

02:34:35.340 --> 02:34:37.356
our student demographic,

02:34:37.356 --> 02:34:40.985
getting proficient in their native language, in Spanish,

02:34:40.985 --> 02:34:42.864
actually will allow them to become more proficient

02:34:42.864 --> 02:34:43.966
quicker in English.

02:34:43.966 --> 02:34:47.029
Additionally, for our native English speakers,

02:34:47.029 --> 02:34:50.176
being bilingual and adding a secondary language

02:34:50.176 --> 02:34:53.392
only further allows them to be more competitive

02:34:53.392 --> 02:34:55.092
when it comes to high schools and colleges.

02:34:55.092 --> 02:34:57.424
And we've seen a lot of positive feedback

02:34:57.424 --> 02:34:59.434
from both native Spanish speakers

02:34:59.434 --> 02:35:00.533
and non-native Spanish speakers

02:35:00.533 --> 02:35:01.977
in the community.

02:35:01.977 --> 02:35:03.943
Though a final innovation that I'll talk about is

02:35:03.943 --> 02:35:05.170
actually looping.

02:35:05.170 --> 02:35:07.130
And so this is something that, again,

02:35:07.130 --> 02:35:08.781
is not in existent in our current community,

02:35:08.781 --> 02:35:10.824
but we believe in the kindergarten

02:35:10.824 --> 02:35:12.006
through second grade years,

02:35:12.006 --> 02:35:13.328
again maximizing our time

02:35:13.328 --> 02:35:15.738
and making sure that students and families

02:35:15.738 --> 02:35:17.634
cultivate a very strong relationship

02:35:17.634 --> 02:35:19.806
so that they're not wasting time at the beginning

02:35:19.806 --> 02:35:21.406
of each year trying to get to know

02:35:21.406 --> 02:35:23.200
what the strengths and weaknesses are

02:35:23.200 --> 02:35:24.243
of each student.

02:35:24.243 --> 02:35:25.772
That's something that they'll already be aware of

02:35:25.772 --> 02:35:27.908
and be able to just jump in to the next year

02:35:27.908 --> 02:35:29.060
very strongly.

02:35:29.060 --> 02:35:32.855
Additionally, I want to pass it to Eric

02:35:32.855 --> 02:35:34.849
and share a little bit on behalf of our

02:35:34.849 --> 02:35:37.021
very successful board

02:35:37.021 --> 02:35:41.126
and how they believe they can support this school.

02:35:41.126 --> 02:35:42.530
<v ->Thank you Tracy.</v>

02:35:42.530 --> 02:35:43.556
My name is Eric Gomez.

02:35:43.556 --> 02:35:45.513
And on behalf of the board of Rev Prep,

02:35:45.513 --> 02:35:47.397
I'm extremely honored here

02:35:47.397 --> 02:35:48.549
to represent the board.

02:35:48.549 --> 02:35:50.755
As Tracy said, I'm a native Houstonian as well too.

02:35:50.755 --> 02:35:53.207
And I strongly believe

02:35:53.207 --> 02:35:55.090
that education is the great equalizer.

02:35:55.090 --> 02:35:56.926
I also believe I'm a great example of that.

02:35:56.926 --> 02:35:59.433
As the child of immigrant parents,

02:35:59.433 --> 02:36:01.958
my mother had less than the equivalent

02:36:01.958 --> 02:36:03.591
of a sixth grade education.

02:36:03.591 --> 02:36:05.837
But it was her desire for a quality

02:36:05.837 --> 02:36:07.294
early childhood education

02:36:07.294 --> 02:36:09.865
and instilling the seed in my mind

02:36:09.865 --> 02:36:11.958
of a university education as well

02:36:11.958 --> 02:36:13.764
that got me to where I am today,

02:36:13.764 --> 02:36:16.319
eventually graduating from the University of Houston.

02:36:16.319 --> 02:36:18.669
And then I went on pursuing my MBA

02:36:18.669 --> 02:36:20.320
at the University of Michigan.

02:36:20.320 --> 02:36:21.929
Being able to come back to Houston,

02:36:21.929 --> 02:36:23.043
my hometown,

02:36:23.043 --> 02:36:24.748
and be able to provide support

02:36:24.748 --> 02:36:26.782
for an initiative, something like this,

02:36:26.782 --> 02:36:28.204
that is needed within the community.

02:36:28.204 --> 02:36:30.514
Going out to the community events

02:36:30.514 --> 02:36:32.313
and participating in this community events

02:36:32.313 --> 02:36:33.409
about a year ago

02:36:33.409 --> 02:36:34.503
when we began this process,

02:36:34.503 --> 02:36:36.125
I saw the need

02:36:36.125 --> 02:36:37.413
from the parents,

02:36:37.413 --> 02:36:38.555
their struggles,

02:36:38.555 --> 02:36:39.549
their challenges.

02:36:39.549 --> 02:36:41.204
And it reminded me of my parents

02:36:41.204 --> 02:36:42.419
and their struggles,

02:36:42.419 --> 02:36:43.863
and their challenges that they had

02:36:43.863 --> 02:36:46.207
as I was a child growing up in inner city Houston.

02:36:46.207 --> 02:36:47.565
With that in mind,

02:36:47.565 --> 02:36:50.499
we have put together a very strong, cohesive board

02:36:50.499 --> 02:36:52.218
that is 100% independent

02:36:52.218 --> 02:36:54.496
and 100% aligned

02:36:54.496 --> 02:36:57.009
with seeing the mission and the vision

02:36:57.009 --> 02:36:58.138
of Rev Prep

02:36:58.138 --> 02:37:00.233
successfully executed in this community.

02:37:00.233 --> 02:37:01.600
And we thank you for your time

02:37:01.600 --> 02:37:03.472
and we look forward to your support.

02:37:03.472 --> 02:37:04.305
Thank you.

02:37:08.880 --> 02:37:10.545
<v ->Thank you very much, both of you.</v>

02:37:10.545 --> 02:37:13.319
All four of these women and their boards

02:37:13.319 --> 02:37:14.763
have gone through a rigorous and,

02:37:14.763 --> 02:37:16.523
if you ask them, I imagine they'd say

02:37:16.523 --> 02:37:20.083
arduous process to get to this point in time.

02:37:20.083 --> 02:37:21.583
This point in time

02:37:23.048 --> 02:37:24.770
is a moment of your discernment

02:37:24.770 --> 02:37:27.187
and so I hand it back to you.

02:37:29.554 --> 02:37:32.439
<v ->I wanted to make sure that</v>

02:37:32.439 --> 02:37:33.272
while the charters were here,

02:37:33.272 --> 02:37:34.105
if there were any lingering questions

02:37:34.105 --> 02:37:35.096
that people might have had.

02:37:35.096 --> 02:37:36.205
If they wanted to ask them any specific

02:37:36.205 --> 02:37:37.854
question on any specific charter.

02:37:37.854 --> 02:37:38.687
<v Mr. Cortez>Madam Chair.</v>

02:37:38.687 --> 02:37:39.931
<v ->Yes, Mr. Cortez.</v>

02:37:39.931 --> 02:37:41.689
<v ->As someone who</v>

02:37:41.689 --> 02:37:44.036
got to sit through both days of interviews and

02:37:44.036 --> 02:37:46.463
I already had an exchange with them

02:37:46.463 --> 02:37:47.752
on that day,

02:37:47.752 --> 02:37:49.301
as I did yesterday.

02:37:49.301 --> 02:37:51.211
I don't have any questions of them, but

02:37:51.211 --> 02:37:53.524
at the end of the process prior to the vote,

02:37:53.524 --> 02:37:55.630
I did just kind of want to make some comments

02:37:55.630 --> 02:37:57.841
to the board about my thoughts on all this

02:37:57.841 --> 02:38:01.008
as prior to deciding on some of these.

02:38:01.852 --> 02:38:05.935
Rather than get into another exchange of dialogue

02:38:06.927 --> 02:38:08.964
with the applicants,

02:38:08.964 --> 02:38:10.571
I think that would be the easiest thing for

02:38:10.571 --> 02:38:11.488
me anyways.

02:38:13.195 --> 02:38:14.196
<v ->Any other comments</v>

02:38:14.196 --> 02:38:15.271
anybody would like to,

02:38:15.271 --> 02:38:17.070
or sorry, any questions that you have

02:38:17.070 --> 02:38:18.608
while we've got our charter applicants here?

02:38:18.608 --> 02:38:20.514
Lingering thoughts or questions.

02:38:20.514 --> 02:38:21.931
Yes, Ms. Beltran.

02:38:22.796 --> 02:38:24.942
<v ->Thank you for all the presentations.</v>

02:38:24.942 --> 02:38:26.388
I was curious,

02:38:26.388 --> 02:38:27.596
just for clarification,

02:38:27.596 --> 02:38:28.971
and this is just,

02:38:28.971 --> 02:38:30.195
I don't know how this works for the

02:38:30.195 --> 02:38:33.182
Elementary School for Social Innovation,

02:38:33.182 --> 02:38:36.182
which is for students with dyslexia,

02:38:37.262 --> 02:38:38.322
ADHD,

02:38:38.322 --> 02:38:39.780
how is that school,

02:38:39.780 --> 02:38:41.871
how do you like,

02:38:41.871 --> 02:38:43.180
isn't it,

02:38:43.180 --> 02:38:44.568
aren't all public schools required to serve

02:38:44.568 --> 02:38:46.835
all children and so is it,

02:38:46.835 --> 02:38:48.418
how does that work?

02:38:49.639 --> 02:38:51.170
Just curious.

02:38:51.170 --> 02:38:52.396
You guys may have answered.

02:38:52.396 --> 02:38:53.885
<v Ms. Bahorich>Heather, I think that (inaudible).</v>

02:38:53.885 --> 02:38:56.617
<v ->So when we reviewed the applications,</v>

02:38:56.617 --> 02:38:58.536
obviously we look at their education plan.

02:38:58.536 --> 02:39:01.249
And this particular charter proposal

02:39:01.249 --> 02:39:02.416
looks to serve

02:39:04.638 --> 02:39:06.348
through that lens.

02:39:06.348 --> 02:39:08.023
So as an open enrollment charter school,

02:39:08.023 --> 02:39:10.298
they will serve all students that come to their school.

02:39:10.298 --> 02:39:12.016
But through the lens of,

02:39:12.016 --> 02:39:13.618
and I think you heard Ms. Condra

02:39:13.618 --> 02:39:16.320
speak to her Creative Learnings Institute

02:39:16.320 --> 02:39:17.653
and the focus of

02:39:18.652 --> 02:39:20.485
teaching all students.

02:39:21.380 --> 02:39:25.032
So I hope that addresses your question.

02:39:25.032 --> 02:39:27.418
But that's the approach that we took

02:39:27.418 --> 02:39:29.193
and I think the approach that

02:39:29.193 --> 02:39:31.459
we will see a year from now,

02:39:31.459 --> 02:39:34.126
should you approve that charter.

02:39:35.083 --> 02:39:37.057
<v ->I think, the way I interpreted--</v>

02:39:37.057 --> 02:39:39.787
(inaudible)

02:39:39.787 --> 02:39:41.073
you know, you get a reputation

02:39:41.073 --> 02:39:43.369
of being effective.

02:39:43.369 --> 02:39:45.127
And so kids self select

02:39:45.127 --> 02:39:46.515
because they can choose to

02:39:46.515 --> 02:39:47.815
go win the lottery

02:39:47.815 --> 02:39:48.960
or whatever

02:39:48.960 --> 02:39:52.273
if there's an over subscription.

02:39:52.273 --> 02:39:54.607
Or just be accepted into the school.

02:39:54.607 --> 02:39:55.812
So that's what I'm imagining

02:39:55.812 --> 02:39:57.760
that by putting out a strong message

02:39:57.760 --> 02:39:59.483
that is the attempt.

02:39:59.483 --> 02:40:00.829
It is what

02:40:00.829 --> 02:40:01.895
I interpreted.

02:40:01.895 --> 02:40:04.759
Mr. Maynard, then Mr. Rowley.

02:40:04.759 --> 02:40:07.092
<v ->Maybe some of you received</v>

02:40:08.184 --> 02:40:10.084
the same barrage of emails that I received.

02:40:10.084 --> 02:40:14.277
And the term, out of state charters kept coming up.

02:40:14.277 --> 02:40:16.688
And listening to them

02:40:16.688 --> 02:40:18.712
and looking at the documents

02:40:18.712 --> 02:40:20.361
that have been submitted to us,

02:40:20.361 --> 02:40:21.838
it does not appear to me

02:40:21.838 --> 02:40:23.286
that there's an out of state charter

02:40:23.286 --> 02:40:24.453
in this bunch.

02:40:25.853 --> 02:40:27.649
Can you address that,

02:40:27.649 --> 02:40:29.749
and why in any of these

02:40:29.749 --> 02:40:33.512
would be perceived as out of state charters?

02:40:33.512 --> 02:40:35.342
<v ->I'm not sure why the misinformation</v>

02:40:35.342 --> 02:40:37.650
about an out of state charter

02:40:37.650 --> 02:40:39.283
is on the table.

02:40:39.283 --> 02:40:41.632
We have four of our applicants

02:40:41.632 --> 02:40:44.032
who have participated in a training program,

02:40:44.032 --> 02:40:46.633
a year long fellowship program,

02:40:46.633 --> 02:40:48.633
that is not an operator,

02:40:50.503 --> 02:40:52.183
is not an authorizor,

02:40:52.183 --> 02:40:53.976
is not a charter management organization.

02:40:53.976 --> 02:40:55.726
It provides training.

02:40:56.646 --> 02:40:59.491
And I think there was a misconception

02:40:59.491 --> 02:41:02.658
about what role they would have

02:41:02.658 --> 02:41:05.740
in the operation of these Texas charters

02:41:05.740 --> 02:41:07.536
with Texas boards

02:41:07.536 --> 02:41:10.193
that operate independently of any

02:41:10.193 --> 02:41:12.044
vendor, if you will,

02:41:12.044 --> 02:41:15.331
or another appropriate metaphor, I think would be.

02:41:15.331 --> 02:41:16.725
If you go to college,

02:41:16.725 --> 02:41:18.708
and we all go to the same college,

02:41:18.708 --> 02:41:21.958
and then we all go into the same field,

02:41:22.806 --> 02:41:24.118
the way that

02:41:24.118 --> 02:41:26.777
manifests in our particular fields,

02:41:26.777 --> 02:41:28.834
it may look very different.

02:41:28.834 --> 02:41:30.185
So three of our applicants

02:41:30.185 --> 02:41:32.672
attended training, fellowship training,

02:41:32.672 --> 02:41:33.953
fellowship training.

02:41:33.953 --> 02:41:37.117
<v ->Well, thank you for that clarification.</v>

02:41:37.117 --> 02:41:39.192
I think that needed to be said.

02:41:39.192 --> 02:41:40.025
Thank you.

02:41:44.453 --> 02:41:47.112
<v Ms. Bahorich>Mr. Rowley.</v>

02:41:47.112 --> 02:41:48.511
<v ->I was just gonna speak to Ms. Beltran,</v>

02:41:48.511 --> 02:41:49.844
Member Beltran's

02:41:50.928 --> 02:41:52.151
question.

02:41:52.151 --> 02:41:52.984
And that came up yesterday.

02:41:52.984 --> 02:41:55.689
And I think Miranda may be able to speak to it as well.

02:41:55.689 --> 02:41:57.904
But she talked in terms of flipping the mainstream.

02:41:57.904 --> 02:42:00.795
And so it will be an open enrollment charter,

02:42:00.795 --> 02:42:01.628
but

02:42:05.302 --> 02:42:06.371
their

02:42:06.371 --> 02:42:07.373
interest,

02:42:07.373 --> 02:42:08.375
their ability, their focus,

02:42:08.375 --> 02:42:09.549
proficiency even

02:42:09.549 --> 02:42:12.390
will be on those students with learning disabilities,

02:42:12.390 --> 02:42:13.514
but at the same time,

02:42:13.514 --> 02:42:15.039
it would also benefit

02:42:15.039 --> 02:42:16.706
mainstream students.

02:42:19.574 --> 02:42:20.566
<v ->If I may interject,</v>

02:42:20.566 --> 02:42:21.835
that particular model

02:42:21.835 --> 02:42:23.502
has in it a pull out

02:42:24.697 --> 02:42:28.160
that students will be able to access

02:42:28.160 --> 02:42:29.685
should they need it.

02:42:29.685 --> 02:42:32.887
And so out of, there's 45 minute general instruction,

02:42:32.887 --> 02:42:34.387
and then the lens,

02:42:35.736 --> 02:42:38.788
dependent upon the needs of the child,

02:42:38.788 --> 02:42:41.873
would be addressed in a pull out program.

02:42:41.873 --> 02:42:42.790
And also to

02:42:44.755 --> 02:42:46.653
provide you additional information,

02:42:46.653 --> 02:42:49.653
because of her involvement with CLE,

02:42:51.635 --> 02:42:52.607
Creative Learners Institute,

02:42:52.607 --> 02:42:55.799
I think Ms. Condra has already established

02:42:55.799 --> 02:42:57.853
some very strong relationships.

02:42:57.853 --> 02:43:00.304
And so in terms of recruitment,

02:43:00.304 --> 02:43:03.261
if there was any concern about craning,

02:43:03.261 --> 02:43:05.402
I think there's gonna be

02:43:05.402 --> 02:43:08.125
an obvious attraction to that charter

02:43:08.125 --> 02:43:10.606
through the individuals who are already

02:43:10.606 --> 02:43:12.914
participating in CLE.

02:43:12.914 --> 02:43:16.581
Also, her relationship with Lubbock ISD too.

02:43:21.038 --> 02:43:22.637
<v ->Heather, I actually have a question</v>

02:43:22.637 --> 02:43:24.208
since I'm not in the committee.

02:43:24.208 --> 02:43:27.625
You know, it was super obvious to me that

02:43:30.623 --> 02:43:33.637
the boards that showed up for the

02:43:33.637 --> 02:43:35.663
boards, for the interview

02:43:35.663 --> 02:43:36.496
were

02:43:40.363 --> 02:43:41.196
at the

02:43:42.217 --> 02:43:44.429
higher level than we have seen over the years.

02:43:44.429 --> 02:43:45.953
Cause I've been at every charter interview.

02:43:45.953 --> 02:43:47.541
This is the only year I have not been.

02:43:47.541 --> 02:43:48.758
So I'm just kind of wondering,

02:43:48.758 --> 02:43:50.085
is that something that the training

02:43:50.085 --> 02:43:51.186
that you're doing

02:43:51.186 --> 02:43:53.265
on the prep early side

02:43:53.265 --> 02:43:54.344
is encouraging

02:43:54.344 --> 02:43:57.194
because it was remarkable to me this year.

02:43:57.194 --> 02:43:58.424
I just was wondering

02:43:58.424 --> 02:43:59.341
from your--

02:44:01.926 --> 02:44:04.084
<v ->Sorry, I wish I could take credit for it.</v>

02:44:04.084 --> 02:44:06.430
(laughter)

02:44:06.430 --> 02:44:07.983
I also had that moment

02:44:07.983 --> 02:44:09.646
when I was reading the applications

02:44:09.646 --> 02:44:11.288
and reading

02:44:11.288 --> 02:44:12.121
the

02:44:12.990 --> 02:44:14.787
degreed individuals and the successful enterprises

02:44:14.787 --> 02:44:17.580
that they had engaged in.

02:44:17.580 --> 02:44:20.466
We have masters and doctorate degrees.

02:44:20.466 --> 02:44:22.567
We have folks who have started their own startups

02:44:22.567 --> 02:44:23.893
or several startups.

02:44:23.893 --> 02:44:25.143
The folks that,

02:44:26.655 --> 02:44:27.488
and I'll,

02:44:28.541 --> 02:44:33.133
I'll split it because Miranda applied last year

02:44:33.133 --> 02:44:34.685
and part of our conversations

02:44:34.685 --> 02:44:37.685
last year after that application was

02:44:38.556 --> 02:44:40.539
we needed to see

02:44:40.539 --> 02:44:43.710
folks who had been involved in education.

02:44:43.710 --> 02:44:45.835
Her, as she said,

02:44:45.835 --> 02:44:47.444
background was in law.

02:44:47.444 --> 02:44:48.277
And

02:44:49.323 --> 02:44:51.104
clearly had a passion for it,

02:44:51.104 --> 02:44:53.431
but we had some questions about

02:44:53.431 --> 02:44:56.098
educational prowess of her team.

02:44:57.279 --> 02:44:58.547
She took that to heart

02:44:58.547 --> 02:45:01.852
and she connected with some very

02:45:01.852 --> 02:45:04.532
seasoned and degreed individuals

02:45:04.532 --> 02:45:06.639
in the field of education.

02:45:06.639 --> 02:45:10.206
And that was reflected in her board this year,

02:45:10.206 --> 02:45:11.536
and proposed board.

02:45:11.536 --> 02:45:13.148
The other three entities,

02:45:13.148 --> 02:45:14.685
sponsoring entities,

02:45:14.685 --> 02:45:16.984
who participated in the BES training,

02:45:16.984 --> 02:45:18.734
part of that training

02:45:20.011 --> 02:45:21.511
is how to attract,

02:45:23.544 --> 02:45:25.076
how to recruit

02:45:25.076 --> 02:45:27.159
a highly competent board.

02:45:28.054 --> 02:45:30.265
I believe one of the applicants told me they

02:45:30.265 --> 02:45:32.682
spoke to over 400 individuals

02:45:33.721 --> 02:45:37.471
to try to determine who would be the best fit

02:45:38.710 --> 02:45:40.003
for their board.

02:45:40.003 --> 02:45:41.086
That's--

02:45:41.086 --> 02:45:42.096
<v Ms. Bahorich>400?</v>

02:45:42.096 --> 02:45:43.217
<v ->400.</v>

02:45:43.217 --> 02:45:44.364
And I'm sorry, I can't remember which of you told me that,

02:45:44.364 --> 02:45:45.853
but, oh, Ambica.

02:45:45.853 --> 02:45:46.686
So, so,

02:45:50.011 --> 02:45:52.203
although I'd like to claim credit,

02:45:52.203 --> 02:45:55.184
and that is an area that we are looking at

02:45:55.184 --> 02:45:57.684
internally as we move forward.

02:45:58.621 --> 02:46:01.056
Those are the reasonings behind

02:46:01.056 --> 02:46:02.620
these stellar boards that we saw.

02:46:02.620 --> 02:46:04.026
<v ->Well, I just, you know,</v>

02:46:04.026 --> 02:46:05.361
that's always been

02:46:05.361 --> 02:46:07.929
a source of concern for me

02:46:07.929 --> 02:46:11.461
is that we have strong school leaders proposing,

02:46:11.461 --> 02:46:14.094
but not as strong boards

02:46:14.094 --> 02:46:16.808
that are at the interviews and things sometimes.

02:46:16.808 --> 02:46:19.504
And so if there's any message I can send out

02:46:19.504 --> 02:46:20.912
for any potential applicants,

02:46:20.912 --> 02:46:24.912
that strength of the board really says capacity.

02:46:25.912 --> 02:46:27.552
I can carry out this vision

02:46:27.552 --> 02:46:29.090
cause I've got some help to do it.

02:46:29.090 --> 02:46:31.278
It's not just me with this great passion and vision.

02:46:31.278 --> 02:46:33.462
It's a lot of people who are standing beside me

02:46:33.462 --> 02:46:34.923
who are professionals

02:46:34.923 --> 02:46:37.756
who know what they're also capable

02:46:38.610 --> 02:46:39.878
of helping me with this vision too.

02:46:39.878 --> 02:46:40.971
So I just,

02:46:40.971 --> 02:46:42.790
it was notable this year.

02:46:42.790 --> 02:46:44.075
I just wanted to ask

02:46:44.075 --> 02:46:46.026
what we're doing a little differently.

02:46:46.026 --> 02:46:47.490
So Ms. Hardy and then Mr. Rowley.

02:46:47.490 --> 02:46:49.480
<v Ms. Hardy>I just want to make this comment.</v>

02:46:49.480 --> 02:46:51.182
I don't believe I've ever heard

02:46:51.182 --> 02:46:53.574
more articulate group

02:46:53.574 --> 02:46:56.051
of charter school applicants

02:46:56.051 --> 02:46:59.264
in all of my years of hearing charter schools.

02:46:59.264 --> 02:47:01.199
There's usually one or two

02:47:01.199 --> 02:47:03.283
that will kind of get to you

02:47:03.283 --> 02:47:05.075
and you think oh.

02:47:05.075 --> 02:47:07.242
These people, and they are all,

02:47:07.242 --> 02:47:09.328
up to the last one,

02:47:09.328 --> 02:47:11.428
extremely articulate.

02:47:11.428 --> 02:47:13.812
And all have a beautiful story to tell.

02:47:13.812 --> 02:47:15.802
And I'm just really proud

02:47:15.802 --> 02:47:17.389
and happy for them

02:47:17.389 --> 02:47:18.771
and I hope this all works out

02:47:18.771 --> 02:47:21.521
because they are very impressive.

02:47:23.922 --> 02:47:25.145
<v ->Just echoing that,</v>

02:47:25.145 --> 02:47:26.477
as Ms. Hardy said,

02:47:26.477 --> 02:47:27.518
I heard them yesterday in committee as well

02:47:27.518 --> 02:47:29.143
and then today.

02:47:29.143 --> 02:47:31.128
It also came out just the fact that there is

02:47:31.128 --> 02:47:33.711
such a blend of qualifications,

02:47:34.974 --> 02:47:35.807
expertise,

02:47:37.410 --> 02:47:39.108
but also passion,

02:47:39.108 --> 02:47:40.578
and a personal experience.

02:47:40.578 --> 02:47:42.308
I love the idea

02:47:42.308 --> 02:47:46.341
that all four really are going back into areas

02:47:46.341 --> 02:47:49.378
in which they had a personal experience,

02:47:49.378 --> 02:47:52.257
but they're doing so with a qualified board,

02:47:52.257 --> 02:47:54.809
with their own experience and expertise.

02:47:54.809 --> 02:47:57.079
And not to mention the fact,

02:47:57.079 --> 02:47:58.399
I think it's,

02:47:58.399 --> 02:48:01.307
it's a reflection on hopefully our system

02:48:01.307 --> 02:48:03.479
that we have four very qualified women

02:48:03.479 --> 02:48:05.751
who are stepping up into these

02:48:05.751 --> 02:48:07.160
leadership roles.

02:48:07.160 --> 02:48:09.252
And I think that's worth noting

02:48:09.252 --> 02:48:11.585
in the great state of Texas.

02:48:15.165 --> 02:48:17.703
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yes, Ms. Miller.</v>

02:48:17.703 --> 02:48:19.518
<v ->May I ask,</v>

02:48:19.518 --> 02:48:21.233
I noticed that Lubbock,

02:48:21.233 --> 02:48:22.606
there in Lubbock,

02:48:22.606 --> 02:48:23.439
are they,

02:48:24.287 --> 02:48:26.164
will they be working with the Lubbock

02:48:26.164 --> 02:48:28.057
Scottish Rite?

02:48:28.057 --> 02:48:30.261
Cause I know Scottish Rite's out there in Lubbock.

02:48:30.261 --> 02:48:31.380
(group chatter)

02:48:31.380 --> 02:48:33.400
Okay, alright, good.

02:48:33.400 --> 02:48:35.649
Cause don't they still have their training program.

02:48:35.649 --> 02:48:38.158
<v Woman>Yes ma'am, they do.</v>

02:48:38.158 --> 02:48:39.317
Okay.

02:48:39.317 --> 02:48:40.405
<v Heather>That was outlined in their application</v>

02:48:40.405 --> 02:48:44.516
that there would be some participation.

02:48:44.516 --> 02:48:45.951
<v ->Yes, Mr. Bradley,</v>

02:48:45.951 --> 02:48:47.304
any other questions.

02:48:47.304 --> 02:48:50.335
<v ->Just real briefly to Member Beltran's concerns</v>

02:48:50.335 --> 02:48:52.362
about limiting enrollment.

02:48:52.362 --> 02:48:54.709
We had an instance probably a decade ago,

02:48:54.709 --> 02:48:57.007
the Bob Hope Charter,

02:48:57.007 --> 02:48:59.651
it's called the Huen Center in Port Arthur, applied.

02:48:59.651 --> 02:49:01.525
And during the interview process,

02:49:01.525 --> 02:49:05.294
I was able to really drill down into it.

02:49:05.294 --> 02:49:06.658
They were wanting to serve

02:49:06.658 --> 02:49:08.227
a very specific population.

02:49:08.227 --> 02:49:09.436
We could use dyslexias,

02:49:09.436 --> 02:49:11.493
but these kids were all severely disabled.

02:49:11.493 --> 02:49:13.336
They were in house, residential care

02:49:13.336 --> 02:49:15.408
with this foundation,

02:49:15.408 --> 02:49:17.325
living there on campus.

02:49:18.674 --> 02:49:21.586
The couldn't get educational opportunities

02:49:21.586 --> 02:49:23.417
out of the Port Arthur district.

02:49:23.417 --> 02:49:25.303
These kids would be put in their wheelchairs

02:49:25.303 --> 02:49:26.883
and put in the back of a classroom

02:49:26.883 --> 02:49:27.883
and ignored.

02:49:29.383 --> 02:49:30.855
So anyway, we offered them the charter,

02:49:30.855 --> 02:49:32.221
but I cautioned the operator,

02:49:32.221 --> 02:49:34.437
as much as concerns came today.

02:49:34.437 --> 02:49:35.811
Well if we're gonna limit it to just

02:49:35.811 --> 02:49:37.735
this select community,

02:49:37.735 --> 02:49:39.484
what about--

02:49:39.484 --> 02:49:40.964
So I explained to them,

02:49:40.964 --> 02:49:43.026
you're an open charter school,

02:49:43.026 --> 02:49:44.792
and you're geographic region,

02:49:44.792 --> 02:49:46.629
if anybody wants to come in

02:49:46.629 --> 02:49:47.695
and knock on the door,

02:49:47.695 --> 02:49:48.760
you will accept them

02:49:48.760 --> 02:49:50.344
and you also risk with a lottery situation

02:49:50.344 --> 02:49:52.154
that you may not

02:49:52.154 --> 02:49:53.706
have the capacity

02:49:53.706 --> 02:49:55.589
where all of your in house kids

02:49:55.589 --> 02:49:57.315
can get in.

02:49:57.315 --> 02:49:58.461
The odds are that

02:49:58.461 --> 02:50:00.353
only 50% will.

02:50:00.353 --> 02:50:02.049
And so what the solution to it was

02:50:02.049 --> 02:50:04.845
is that actually expanded their enrollment

02:50:04.845 --> 02:50:05.845
expectations

02:50:06.750 --> 02:50:09.454
and that assured that there certainly was

02:50:09.454 --> 02:50:10.742
a place for all.

02:50:10.742 --> 02:50:12.170
Today, in Port Arthur,

02:50:12.170 --> 02:50:13.844
it is booming.

02:50:13.844 --> 02:50:15.404
They're on a building boom.

02:50:15.404 --> 02:50:16.949
They've outgrown their facility.

02:50:16.949 --> 02:50:19.509
It has become the school of choice

02:50:19.509 --> 02:50:21.201
for the Hispanic community

02:50:21.201 --> 02:50:22.561
in Port Arthur.

02:50:22.561 --> 02:50:23.911
And they've made it their own.

02:50:23.911 --> 02:50:25.644
And I believe we've got an expansion.

02:50:25.644 --> 02:50:27.376
They've purchased land in Beaumont

02:50:27.376 --> 02:50:30.209
and are building out a new campus.

02:50:31.506 --> 02:50:32.506
<v ->Any other,</v>

02:50:34.829 --> 02:50:36.826
yes, Mr. Mercer.

02:50:36.826 --> 02:50:37.863
<v ->I just wanted to chime in</v>

02:50:37.863 --> 02:50:39.466
because I was blessed to be the State chair

02:50:39.466 --> 02:50:40.657
two years ago of charters,

02:50:40.657 --> 02:50:42.058
and watching, you hear the

02:50:42.058 --> 02:50:43.513
journeys.

02:50:43.513 --> 02:50:44.954
Thank you for sharing that.

02:50:44.954 --> 02:50:46.060
Ms. Hardy, Mr. Rowley mentioned

02:50:46.060 --> 02:50:47.564
the journeys you had.

02:50:47.564 --> 02:50:48.603
There's an expression

02:50:48.603 --> 02:50:49.719
iron sharpens iron.

02:50:49.719 --> 02:50:50.931
And you feel like well, yeah,

02:50:50.931 --> 02:50:52.671
but am I through getting sharpened yet, right.

02:50:52.671 --> 02:50:54.950
And your journey's brought you this far.

02:50:54.950 --> 02:50:56.272
Thank you for never giving up.

02:50:56.272 --> 02:50:57.796
Thank you for having that passion.

02:50:57.796 --> 02:50:58.924
Thank you for,

02:50:58.924 --> 02:51:00.207
it's been journey after journey

02:51:00.207 --> 02:51:01.698
after journey that have brought you here today.

02:51:01.698 --> 02:51:03.969
Thank you so much.

02:51:03.969 --> 02:51:05.018
<v ->Well said, Mr. Mercer.</v>

02:51:05.018 --> 02:51:08.911
Any questions specifically of Heather.

02:51:08.911 --> 02:51:10.162
Cause I'm gonna let her go

02:51:10.162 --> 02:51:12.037
unless you have some questions of Heather.

02:51:12.037 --> 02:51:13.287
But stay around

02:51:14.310 --> 02:51:16.125
because maybe something pops up.

02:51:16.125 --> 02:51:17.542
Okay, Mr. Cortez.

02:51:20.180 --> 02:51:21.451
<v ->So I just, you know,</v>

02:51:21.451 --> 02:51:24.167
took a lot of notes from all the different questions

02:51:24.167 --> 02:51:25.421
that I asked.

02:51:25.421 --> 02:51:27.173
And I even had some questions of

02:51:27.173 --> 02:51:28.343
commissioner when he was here.

02:51:28.343 --> 02:51:30.038
And rather than belabor

02:51:30.038 --> 02:51:33.514
and engage again with the applicants,

02:51:33.514 --> 02:51:35.070
I thought I'd just share with you guys,

02:51:35.070 --> 02:51:36.705
since at the end of the day,

02:51:36.705 --> 02:51:38.135
we're the ones that are gonna vote.

02:51:38.135 --> 02:51:40.052
But having attended the

02:51:41.366 --> 02:51:42.699
hearings in May,

02:51:43.620 --> 02:51:46.419
and having gone through that exchange

02:51:46.419 --> 02:51:47.804
and yesterday,

02:51:47.804 --> 02:51:50.983
what I heard in our discussion in committee,

02:51:50.983 --> 02:51:53.862
well I do support the Lubbock charter,

02:51:53.862 --> 02:51:56.162
and a lot of good things we're hearing

02:51:56.162 --> 02:51:57.680
out of Lubbock this week.

02:51:57.680 --> 02:51:59.484
Marty, congratulations.

02:51:59.484 --> 02:52:01.792
Things are going well up there.

02:52:01.792 --> 02:52:05.375
It's clear that that particular charter had

02:52:06.537 --> 02:52:08.787
was born out of a necessity

02:52:09.721 --> 02:52:11.500
and a clear community outcry

02:52:11.500 --> 02:52:12.417
and a need.

02:52:13.618 --> 02:52:16.368
And I fully support that charter.

02:52:17.237 --> 02:52:19.370
However, I did have serious questions

02:52:19.370 --> 02:52:21.889
and concerns about the other three

02:52:21.889 --> 02:52:23.887
applicants that are part of

02:52:23.887 --> 02:52:26.985
the Building Excellent Schools network.

02:52:26.985 --> 02:52:30.823
I just felt that some of these concerns,

02:52:30.823 --> 02:52:33.406
I guess, needed to be raised to

02:52:34.870 --> 02:52:38.315
this body prior to making the vote.

02:52:38.315 --> 02:52:39.713
I know that

02:52:39.713 --> 02:52:41.332
the three founders

02:52:41.332 --> 02:52:42.835
that have spoken

02:52:42.835 --> 02:52:44.502
are very articulate.

02:52:45.442 --> 02:52:48.178
And I don't want to take that away from them.

02:52:48.178 --> 02:52:49.861
And they're obviously,

02:52:49.861 --> 02:52:50.944
they've been,

02:52:52.678 --> 02:52:56.101
came out of this 2017 Fellows program

02:52:56.101 --> 02:52:57.701
with Building Excellent Schools.

02:52:57.701 --> 02:53:00.228
And it appears that they're gonna have

02:53:00.228 --> 02:53:02.749
the support and the framework

02:53:02.749 --> 02:53:04.249
that's required to

02:53:05.232 --> 02:53:06.918
set up the foundation of how they're gonna run

02:53:06.918 --> 02:53:08.592
their schools

02:53:08.592 --> 02:53:11.980
as the framework that Building Excellent Schools

02:53:11.980 --> 02:53:15.691
offers their fellows in the first three years

02:53:15.691 --> 02:53:17.239
of operation.

02:53:17.239 --> 02:53:19.139
As they've outlined in their budgets,

02:53:19.139 --> 02:53:20.844
the 10,000 dollar annual expense

02:53:20.844 --> 02:53:23.427
for Building Excellent Schools.

02:53:27.481 --> 02:53:31.253
So, I only assume that it's a fair question to ask,

02:53:31.253 --> 02:53:33.585
well how are other Building Excellent Schools doing

02:53:33.585 --> 02:53:35.090
across the country.

02:53:35.090 --> 02:53:39.271
One of the concerns is that Building Excellent Schools

02:53:39.271 --> 02:53:42.822
fellows that have been planted in over

02:53:42.822 --> 02:53:46.061
100 new start up charter schools across the country,

02:53:46.061 --> 02:53:48.627
and while they're all independent

02:53:48.627 --> 02:53:51.089
in and of themselves,

02:53:51.089 --> 02:53:54.891
it's still Building Excellent Schools

02:53:54.891 --> 02:53:56.635
has this network of information

02:53:56.635 --> 02:53:57.981
that they put out to

02:53:57.981 --> 02:53:59.180
their organizations.

02:53:59.180 --> 02:54:00.964
And as one of the testifiers yesterday

02:54:00.964 --> 02:54:02.199
talked about,

02:54:02.199 --> 02:54:03.649
they send them all this information

02:54:03.649 --> 02:54:04.812
about best practices from

02:54:04.812 --> 02:54:07.355
Building Excellent Schools network schools

02:54:07.355 --> 02:54:09.401
across the country.

02:54:09.401 --> 02:54:10.744
And the commissioner

02:54:10.744 --> 02:54:12.741
on Wednesday said that

02:54:12.741 --> 02:54:15.402
one of the big reasons that he was in full support

02:54:15.402 --> 02:54:16.642
is because he wanted

02:54:16.642 --> 02:54:17.809
more A schools

02:54:19.135 --> 02:54:20.687
in these neighborhoods.

02:54:20.687 --> 02:54:21.931
Well, in fact,

02:54:21.931 --> 02:54:22.963
Building Excellent Schools,

02:54:22.963 --> 02:54:24.096
and you can go to the state of,

02:54:24.096 --> 02:54:26.096
the state education websites

02:54:26.096 --> 02:54:28.588
in some of these states

02:54:28.588 --> 02:54:30.080
where Building Excellent Schools are,

02:54:30.080 --> 02:54:31.602
and you're gonna see that only about half

02:54:31.602 --> 02:54:33.703
of Building Excellent Schools

02:54:33.703 --> 02:54:34.870
are performing

02:54:37.045 --> 02:54:38.295
above standard.

02:54:39.198 --> 02:54:40.781
You had some listed

02:54:43.872 --> 02:54:45.106
with a C rating.

02:54:45.106 --> 02:54:46.966
Others in D in Louisiana.

02:54:46.966 --> 02:54:48.466
D and F's in Ohio.

02:54:49.869 --> 02:54:51.172
And all this information's available

02:54:51.172 --> 02:54:52.354
on the state education

02:54:52.354 --> 02:54:53.362
websites.

02:54:53.362 --> 02:54:54.785
But I didn't want to just point that out

02:54:54.785 --> 02:54:55.868
to this body.

02:54:58.536 --> 02:55:00.034
And again, even though

02:55:00.034 --> 02:55:02.828
the founders and their boards

02:55:02.828 --> 02:55:05.565
seem to be well intentioned and well spoken,

02:55:05.565 --> 02:55:06.648
none of them,

02:55:08.450 --> 02:55:09.981
not a single one of them

02:55:09.981 --> 02:55:13.018
had experience ever opening an campus,

02:55:13.018 --> 02:55:14.768
evaluating a teacher,

02:55:17.529 --> 02:55:19.321
with school safety issue,

02:55:19.321 --> 02:55:20.590
which in today's society

02:55:20.590 --> 02:55:23.862
and today's environment is critical.

02:55:23.862 --> 02:55:25.723
And so those are things that

02:55:25.723 --> 02:55:27.723
I was concerned about.

02:55:27.723 --> 02:55:29.366
I was very concerned about the fact that

02:55:29.366 --> 02:55:31.130
within these three

02:55:31.130 --> 02:55:32.560
applicants,

02:55:32.560 --> 02:55:33.961
there are only a few dozen

02:55:33.961 --> 02:55:36.492
participants showed up to their community

02:55:36.492 --> 02:55:38.231
conversations,

02:55:38.231 --> 02:55:40.475
which at least to me,

02:55:40.475 --> 02:55:41.775
didn't demonstrate

02:55:41.775 --> 02:55:43.155
a clear desire

02:55:43.155 --> 02:55:44.812
by these communities

02:55:44.812 --> 02:55:46.395
for these campuses.

02:55:47.488 --> 02:55:48.771
I didn't see any evidence,

02:55:48.771 --> 02:55:50.716
and at least in one of the sessions,

02:55:50.716 --> 02:55:53.810
there were only three participants

02:55:53.810 --> 02:55:54.994
that showed up.

02:55:54.994 --> 02:55:55.827
But yet

02:55:57.795 --> 02:55:59.432
we're gonna give these schools,

02:55:59.432 --> 02:56:01.635
potentially, if they get awarded

02:56:01.635 --> 02:56:04.666
about 164 million dollars over the course

02:56:04.666 --> 02:56:05.725
of the next decade,

02:56:05.725 --> 02:56:08.427
assuming that they don't ask for expansion amendments

02:56:08.427 --> 02:56:10.998
and at capacity with what they're asking for.

02:56:10.998 --> 02:56:11.831
And based,

02:56:13.239 --> 02:56:14.592
and again, all this based on

02:56:14.592 --> 02:56:17.009
what in the interview process

02:56:18.275 --> 02:56:20.355
was a very limited

02:56:20.355 --> 02:56:21.982
community

02:56:21.982 --> 02:56:22.982
involvement.

02:56:24.023 --> 02:56:25.554
So I'm concerned about that.

02:56:25.554 --> 02:56:27.068
The other things

02:56:27.068 --> 02:56:28.085
that I was concerned about,

02:56:28.085 --> 02:56:29.146
and I raised this yesterday,

02:56:29.146 --> 02:56:30.860
not single one of them

02:56:30.860 --> 02:56:33.389
has budgeted for library or librarian.

02:56:33.389 --> 02:56:36.610
Not a single one budgeted for a counselor.

02:56:36.610 --> 02:56:40.933
None of them had budget for school safety.

02:56:40.933 --> 02:56:42.094
These are all things

02:56:42.094 --> 02:56:43.098
that should concern

02:56:43.098 --> 02:56:43.931
all of us.

02:56:45.060 --> 02:56:47.270
And I just wanted to raise those points.

02:56:47.270 --> 02:56:49.187
I'm also concerned that

02:56:50.173 --> 02:56:51.673
the percentages of

02:56:53.009 --> 02:56:54.301
students that they're going to serve,

02:56:54.301 --> 02:56:55.867
and I know I shared them with,

02:56:55.867 --> 02:56:58.407
I shared some of them with you.

02:56:58.407 --> 02:56:59.767
I didn't write them on my notes here,

02:56:59.767 --> 02:57:01.043
cause I didn't want to go over that whole thing again.

02:57:01.043 --> 02:57:02.219
But the percentages

02:57:02.219 --> 02:57:03.486
of some of the populations,

02:57:03.486 --> 02:57:05.080
especially populations of kids

02:57:05.080 --> 02:57:06.575
they are gonna serve versus

02:57:06.575 --> 02:57:08.542
their neighborhood schools,

02:57:08.542 --> 02:57:10.136
in addition to the fact that

02:57:10.136 --> 02:57:11.263
most to the neighborhood schools

02:57:11.263 --> 02:57:13.578
in the specific zip codes that wanted

02:57:13.578 --> 02:57:15.911
operating did meet standard.

02:57:16.941 --> 02:57:18.713
The majority of them did.

02:57:18.713 --> 02:57:19.713
In some instances,

02:57:19.713 --> 02:57:23.937
as many as 75% of the schools met standards.

02:57:23.937 --> 02:57:25.140
I'm concerned about

02:57:25.140 --> 02:57:26.774
one of them that talked about

02:57:26.774 --> 02:57:28.472
there was gonna be a one to 30

02:57:28.472 --> 02:57:29.971
student teacher ratio.

02:57:29.971 --> 02:57:33.644
So those are some of the issues that I had.

02:57:33.644 --> 02:57:35.928
And again, I raise them to you all

02:57:35.928 --> 02:57:37.498
because we're all gonna make this vote in a moment.

02:57:37.498 --> 02:57:39.270
I'm concerned that

02:57:39.270 --> 02:57:41.886
with such a limited state funding

02:57:41.886 --> 02:57:44.921
that we're using these state dollars

02:57:44.921 --> 02:57:46.239
inefficiently.

02:57:46.239 --> 02:57:50.116
Because by opening up these new facilities,

02:57:50.116 --> 02:57:51.809
they're gonna hire new campus,

02:57:51.809 --> 02:57:52.833
new staff,

02:57:52.833 --> 02:57:54.074
new campuses

02:57:54.074 --> 02:57:55.427
when we already have many neighborhood,

02:57:55.427 --> 02:57:57.498
lots of neighborhood schools located within,

02:57:57.498 --> 02:57:58.831
within this area

02:58:01.774 --> 02:58:04.367
that meet state standards.

02:58:04.367 --> 02:58:06.700
But one of the big concerns,

02:58:07.916 --> 02:58:09.669
and again, I don't live in the Houston area,

02:58:09.669 --> 02:58:11.626
so those of you that are Houstonians,

02:58:11.626 --> 02:58:16.013
you can speak to this probably better than I.

02:58:16.013 --> 02:58:18.420
But again, my decisions don't just impact

02:58:18.420 --> 02:58:19.710
district two.

02:58:19.710 --> 02:58:22.146
My actions impact all of Texas,

02:58:22.146 --> 02:58:24.139
just like each and every one of you.

02:58:24.139 --> 02:58:25.654
I may get voted in one district,

02:58:25.654 --> 02:58:27.773
but our actions represent all.

02:58:27.773 --> 02:58:32.601
Opening these two new charters in Houston area specifically,

02:58:32.601 --> 02:58:35.995
has an impact on Houston ISD kids.

02:58:35.995 --> 02:58:38.479
These schools will increase

02:58:38.479 --> 02:58:41.479
local tax payer dollar contributions

02:58:43.033 --> 02:58:44.831
through a recapture.

02:58:44.831 --> 02:58:46.366
Houston's already giving back

02:58:46.366 --> 02:58:48.616
233 million dollars a year.

02:58:50.218 --> 02:58:52.451
That's about a thousand dollars per student

02:58:52.451 --> 02:58:53.951
that comes out of,

02:58:55.176 --> 02:58:56.425
out of HISD.

02:58:56.425 --> 02:58:59.166
And so this hurts Houston ISD kids

02:58:59.166 --> 02:59:01.004
when we do these things.

02:59:01.004 --> 02:59:02.950
We heard yesterday from a teacher

02:59:02.950 --> 02:59:04.928
that drove all the way from Houston.

02:59:04.928 --> 02:59:06.964
She was employed from the Houston school district.

02:59:06.964 --> 02:59:08.559
She drove all the way down here to Austin

02:59:08.559 --> 02:59:09.999
to come talk to us about

02:59:09.999 --> 02:59:11.448
how in her school,

02:59:11.448 --> 02:59:13.073
they were gonna cut math specialists next year

02:59:13.073 --> 02:59:15.020
because of budget shortfalls.

02:59:15.020 --> 02:59:17.272
And their struggling students

02:59:17.272 --> 02:59:20.710
may not be able to receive interventions.

02:59:20.710 --> 02:59:22.550
And she talked about another school

02:59:22.550 --> 02:59:23.821
that they may cut

02:59:23.821 --> 02:59:25.374
six teachers

02:59:25.374 --> 02:59:28.428
and after school enrichment programs.

02:59:28.428 --> 02:59:29.722
I point this out

02:59:29.722 --> 02:59:31.227
because this is obviously a big concern.

02:59:31.227 --> 02:59:34.257
While we don't control what happens across the street,

02:59:34.257 --> 02:59:37.457
it seems to me that until the school finance

02:59:37.457 --> 02:59:39.235
issues are addressed,

02:59:39.235 --> 02:59:40.684
we shouldn't continue to

02:59:40.684 --> 02:59:42.173
penalize

02:59:42.173 --> 02:59:44.924
students within these school systems

02:59:44.924 --> 02:59:46.924
of Chapter 41 districts.

02:59:47.957 --> 02:59:51.185
And in essence, our actions to potentially approve

02:59:51.185 --> 02:59:52.783
some of these charters today

02:59:52.783 --> 02:59:54.548
could do that because we're gonna take

02:59:54.548 --> 02:59:56.215
more money away from

02:59:57.074 --> 02:59:58.241
these schools.

03:00:00.510 --> 03:00:01.593
So, you know,

03:00:03.792 --> 03:00:04.625
I think,

03:00:06.439 --> 03:00:08.376
I can go on and on,

03:00:08.376 --> 03:00:11.080
but I'm just gonna leave it at that and

03:00:11.080 --> 03:00:14.604
just tell you all I do have some deep concerns.

03:00:14.604 --> 03:00:15.922
I have a lot more notes, but

03:00:15.922 --> 03:00:17.385
I've gone through a lot of this

03:00:17.385 --> 03:00:18.669
over the last few days.

03:00:18.669 --> 03:00:19.990
Some of you have listened to the testimony.

03:00:19.990 --> 03:00:21.448
You might have heard

03:00:21.448 --> 03:00:22.636
my line of questioning.

03:00:22.636 --> 03:00:25.882
And so I'll leave it at that.

03:00:25.882 --> 03:00:27.033
If anybody has any questions

03:00:27.033 --> 03:00:28.180
of anything I just said,

03:00:28.180 --> 03:00:29.881
I'd be happy to answer.

03:00:29.881 --> 03:00:31.486
Otherwise, I just wanted to at least

03:00:31.486 --> 03:00:33.533
put my comments out.

03:00:33.533 --> 03:00:35.574
So thank you guys.

03:00:35.574 --> 03:00:36.842
<v Ms. Cargill>Would you like the motions?</v>

03:00:36.842 --> 03:00:38.825
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yeah, let's go ahead and do that, okay.</v>

03:00:38.825 --> 03:00:40.849
<v Ms. Cargill>Okay, and I would.</v>

03:00:40.849 --> 03:00:42.928
(inaudible)

03:00:42.928 --> 03:00:45.463
(interposing voices speaking)

03:00:45.463 --> 03:00:46.576
<v Ms. Bahorich>We want to make sure and do it</v>

03:00:46.576 --> 03:00:47.578
like you all voted.

03:00:47.578 --> 03:00:49.112
<v ->And I would encourage those of you</v>

03:00:49.112 --> 03:00:50.303
that want to hear the answers

03:00:50.303 --> 03:00:51.464
to a lot of Mr. Cortez's concerns

03:00:51.464 --> 03:00:52.602
to listen to the tapes

03:00:52.602 --> 03:00:55.092
from yesterday from our committee meeting.

03:00:55.092 --> 03:00:56.601
So board members, on page two

03:00:56.601 --> 03:00:58.165
of the Committee on School Initiatives notes

03:00:58.165 --> 03:00:59.332
is the motion.

03:01:00.979 --> 03:01:02.229
And the item is

03:01:06.370 --> 03:01:07.481
of course

03:01:07.481 --> 03:01:09.157
whether to award these charters or not.

03:01:09.157 --> 03:01:10.604
So in speaking to our parliamentarian

03:01:10.604 --> 03:01:12.111
because we did have

03:01:12.111 --> 03:01:13.943
a committee member, Mr. Cortez,

03:01:13.943 --> 03:01:16.395
who did want the question divided.

03:01:16.395 --> 03:01:17.655
So to save us time,

03:01:17.655 --> 03:01:19.204
we've gone ahead and done that.

03:01:19.204 --> 03:01:21.073
So the first motion is this.

03:01:21.073 --> 03:01:23.998
And this is on page four dash 15 of your

03:01:23.998 --> 03:01:25.814
agenda notebook.

03:01:25.814 --> 03:01:26.647
It was

03:01:27.554 --> 03:01:28.831
recommended unanimously

03:01:28.831 --> 03:01:30.046
that the State Board of Education

03:01:30.046 --> 03:01:31.658
take no action

03:01:31.658 --> 03:01:33.602
on the commissioner's proposed generation 23

03:01:33.602 --> 03:01:35.316
open enrollment charter school,

03:01:35.316 --> 03:01:37.553
Elementary School for Education Innovation,

03:01:37.553 --> 03:01:39.720
which would be in Lubbock.

03:01:42.099 --> 03:01:43.150
<v ->So again,</v>

03:01:43.150 --> 03:01:45.215
this is always a weird motion.

03:01:45.215 --> 03:01:48.259
The vote is to take no action, basically.

03:01:48.259 --> 03:01:52.432
And so I would like you to raise your hands.

03:01:52.432 --> 03:01:54.310
<v Mr. Cortez>It requires us to take any action.</v>

03:01:54.310 --> 03:01:56.643
<v ->That charter goes forward.</v>

03:01:57.916 --> 03:01:59.173
<v Ms. Cargill>If you want the charter,</v>

03:01:59.173 --> 03:02:00.356
you vote yes.

03:02:00.356 --> 03:02:01.767
<v ->If you want the charter, raise your hand</v>

03:02:01.767 --> 03:02:04.184
in favor of taking no action.

03:02:05.116 --> 03:02:06.517
<v Ms. Cargill>Right.</v>

03:02:06.517 --> 03:02:07.731
<v ->Okay.</v>

03:02:07.731 --> 03:02:09.438
So all those in favor of taking no action on

03:02:09.438 --> 03:02:12.482
Elementary School for Education Innovation

03:02:12.482 --> 03:02:15.482
in Lubbock, raise your hands please.

03:02:31.417 --> 03:02:33.557
I just want to make sure we captured the vote.

03:02:33.557 --> 03:02:35.164
We captured the vote, okay.

03:02:35.164 --> 03:02:35.997
All those

03:02:37.180 --> 03:02:38.571
in favor of,

03:02:38.571 --> 03:02:40.425
well, did we,

03:02:40.425 --> 03:02:41.482
opposed

03:02:41.482 --> 03:02:42.751
to taking no action.

03:02:42.751 --> 03:02:44.308
All those opposed to taking no action,

03:02:44.308 --> 03:02:46.225
please raise your hand.

03:02:50.889 --> 03:02:52.431
You got it?

03:02:52.431 --> 03:02:53.429
Okay.

03:02:53.429 --> 03:02:54.262
So,

03:02:55.885 --> 03:02:57.316
that motion passes

03:02:57.316 --> 03:02:58.937
and Elementary School for Education Innovation

03:02:58.937 --> 03:03:01.044
will be given a charter.

03:03:01.044 --> 03:03:03.251
Okay, next motion, Ms. Cargill.

03:03:03.251 --> 03:03:05.331
<v ->In the middle of page two,</v>

03:03:05.331 --> 03:03:08.975
it was recommended that the State Board of Education

03:03:08.975 --> 03:03:11.500
take no action on three of the commissioners

03:03:11.500 --> 03:03:13.412
proposed generation 23,

03:03:13.412 --> 03:03:15.083
open enrollment charter schools,

03:03:15.083 --> 03:03:18.381
Bloom Academy Charter School of Houston,

03:03:18.381 --> 03:03:20.699
Promesa Academy Charter School,

03:03:20.699 --> 03:03:22.546
which would be in San Antonio,

03:03:22.546 --> 03:03:25.796
and Rev Preparatory Academy of Houston.

03:03:28.451 --> 03:03:29.687
<v Ms. Bahorich>Any further discussion on this</v>

03:03:29.687 --> 03:03:32.061
before we take a vote?

03:03:32.061 --> 03:03:34.080
All those in favor of taking no action

03:03:34.080 --> 03:03:35.596
on the three

03:03:35.596 --> 03:03:36.429
proposals,

03:03:37.713 --> 03:03:39.021
Bloom Academy Charter School,

03:03:39.021 --> 03:03:40.875
Promesa Academy Charter

03:03:40.875 --> 03:03:43.615
and Rev, I hope I say that--

03:03:43.615 --> 03:03:44.654
<v ->Rev.</v>

03:03:44.654 --> 03:03:45.673
<v ->Rev, okay.</v>

03:03:45.673 --> 03:03:48.220
Rev Preparatory Academy.

03:03:48.220 --> 03:03:49.310
Raise your hands.

03:03:49.310 --> 03:03:50.622
So favor, if you're in favor of taking no action,

03:03:50.622 --> 03:03:52.622
please raise your hands.

03:04:01.913 --> 03:04:03.663
Did staff catch that?

03:04:05.023 --> 03:04:07.841
Okay, all those not in favor

03:04:07.841 --> 03:04:08.910
of taking no action,

03:04:08.910 --> 03:04:10.910
please raise your hands.

03:04:13.151 --> 03:04:14.771
Got that?

03:04:14.771 --> 03:04:18.403
Okay, so all of the commissioners proposed charters

03:04:18.403 --> 03:04:19.570
were approved.

03:04:20.858 --> 03:04:23.108
(applause)

03:04:27.263 --> 03:04:28.708
Alright members, we only really have one more

03:04:28.708 --> 03:04:31.378
and then just a personal catch up

03:04:31.378 --> 03:04:32.634
with whoever

03:04:32.634 --> 03:04:34.370
in the room.

03:04:34.370 --> 03:04:35.765
So development of a long range plan

03:04:35.765 --> 03:04:36.886
for public education.

03:04:36.886 --> 03:04:39.172
I believe Ms. Cargill will bring us up to date on that.

03:04:39.172 --> 03:04:40.671
<v ->Right, I will.</v>

03:04:40.671 --> 03:04:42.493
And thank you charter school staff.

03:04:42.493 --> 03:04:45.076
You all are awesome, as always.

03:04:46.968 --> 03:04:47.801
Okay, board members,

03:04:47.801 --> 03:04:49.060
this is on page two of the minutes as well

03:04:49.060 --> 03:04:50.586
and in your Board Agenda book,

03:04:50.586 --> 03:04:51.669
four dash 19.

03:04:52.783 --> 03:04:54.841
You also in the minutes have a copy of

03:04:54.841 --> 03:04:57.144
the long range plan.

03:04:57.144 --> 03:04:59.439
So it was recommended

03:04:59.439 --> 03:05:01.008
that the State Board of Education

03:05:01.008 --> 03:05:03.222
authorize the Texas Comprehensive Center

03:05:03.222 --> 03:05:05.984
and the Texas Education Agency staff

03:05:05.984 --> 03:05:07.790
to move forward

03:05:07.790 --> 03:05:10.027
with drafting a long range plan

03:05:10.027 --> 03:05:11.112
for public education

03:05:11.112 --> 03:05:12.912
based on the vision and recommendations

03:05:12.912 --> 03:05:17.162
proposed by the long range plan steering committee.

03:05:21.259 --> 03:05:22.264
<v ->Okay.</v>

03:05:22.264 --> 03:05:23.575
Any discussions about the long range plan

03:05:23.575 --> 03:05:24.619
or any just,

03:05:24.619 --> 03:05:25.686
bring it up to date,

03:05:25.686 --> 03:05:26.776
like where we are,

03:05:26.776 --> 03:05:27.831
just kind of to let everybody know.

03:05:27.831 --> 03:05:29.429
<v ->Right.</v>

03:05:29.429 --> 03:05:31.369
Okay, I'd like to just mention a couple of things

03:05:31.369 --> 03:05:33.577
we did have Lynette Greenhoff,

03:05:33.577 --> 03:05:34.945
the vice chair of the committee

03:05:34.945 --> 03:05:38.104
come and speak to the Committee on School Initiatives

03:05:38.104 --> 03:05:38.937
yesterday.

03:05:40.062 --> 03:05:42.127
And I think Gary Davis from AIR might be around here

03:05:42.127 --> 03:05:42.960
somewhere.

03:05:43.843 --> 03:05:45.043
(inaudible)

03:05:45.043 --> 03:05:46.073
Oh, there you are.

03:05:46.073 --> 03:05:47.080
No wonder I didn't see you.

03:05:47.080 --> 03:05:48.689
I do want to recognize Gary.

03:05:48.689 --> 03:05:50.489
He's been fantastic.

03:05:50.489 --> 03:05:52.736
The whole staff has been fantastic

03:05:52.736 --> 03:05:54.365
with AIR.

03:05:54.365 --> 03:05:56.237
And then of course Debbie

03:05:56.237 --> 03:05:58.162
has been wonderful.

03:05:58.162 --> 03:05:59.372
Debbie, you wear a lot of hats,

03:05:59.372 --> 03:06:01.285
so thank you for your hard work on this.

03:06:01.285 --> 03:06:04.468
But the Steering Committee would like to thank

03:06:04.468 --> 03:06:07.287
the board members who did provide input.

03:06:07.287 --> 03:06:08.943
We were all given a chance,

03:06:08.943 --> 03:06:11.076
whether you were on the Steering Committee or not,

03:06:11.076 --> 03:06:12.942
to provide input.

03:06:12.942 --> 03:06:15.027
And that opportunity does still exist.

03:06:15.027 --> 03:06:16.985
Mr. Cortez talked about

03:06:16.985 --> 03:06:19.573
meeting with superintendents and others

03:06:19.573 --> 03:06:20.838
in his district,

03:06:20.838 --> 03:06:21.950
and so this summer,

03:06:21.950 --> 03:06:23.318
and when did we decide,

03:06:23.318 --> 03:06:26.148
when did we want that input to be sent in

03:06:26.148 --> 03:06:28.330
if theirs still input, Debbie?

03:06:28.330 --> 03:06:29.689
(inaudible)

03:06:29.689 --> 03:06:30.728
Mid-August, thank you.

03:06:30.728 --> 03:06:31.730
Okay.

03:06:31.730 --> 03:06:34.063
(inaudible)

03:06:35.424 --> 03:06:37.329
What was that?

03:06:37.329 --> 03:06:38.491
<v ->I was just saying,</v>

03:06:38.491 --> 03:06:39.726
so we're gonna publish whatever was,

03:06:39.726 --> 03:06:41.777
or maybe it's already out.

03:06:41.777 --> 03:06:42.893
Is that already out,

03:06:42.893 --> 03:06:44.852
what the committee looked at yesterday?

03:06:44.852 --> 03:06:47.301
(inaudible)

03:06:47.301 --> 03:06:48.960
<v Woman>It's not online,</v>

03:06:48.960 --> 03:06:51.139
but we said we'd do a PowerPoint

03:06:51.139 --> 03:06:52.874
and share that with the board

03:06:52.874 --> 03:06:55.744
in case you wanted to share it with community groups.

03:06:55.744 --> 03:06:57.218
<v ->But we have to vote on this first</v>

03:06:57.218 --> 03:06:58.680
before they wanted to, yeah.

03:06:58.680 --> 03:07:01.180
So basically, this is a brief.

03:07:03.329 --> 03:07:05.150
So the document that you have,

03:07:05.150 --> 03:07:06.731
or a white paper,

03:07:06.731 --> 03:07:08.224
you could call it that.

03:07:08.224 --> 03:07:10.110
And so it has the crucial

03:07:10.110 --> 03:07:13.146
points of the research that was done,

03:07:13.146 --> 03:07:13.979
resources,

03:07:15.197 --> 03:07:16.857
highlights from community conversations,

03:07:16.857 --> 03:07:18.613
and from the survey,

03:07:18.613 --> 03:07:21.242
and a description of the committee's process.

03:07:21.242 --> 03:07:22.405
So that's what that is.

03:07:22.405 --> 03:07:23.856
And then after the summer,

03:07:23.856 --> 03:07:25.459
and after gathering more input,

03:07:25.459 --> 03:07:26.971
if board members have more input,

03:07:26.971 --> 03:07:28.970
we will get the longer version

03:07:28.970 --> 03:07:30.918
that would then be sent to us

03:07:30.918 --> 03:07:32.894
that we could carry, hopefully,

03:07:32.894 --> 03:07:34.144
to legislators,

03:07:35.006 --> 03:07:36.760
and to service centers,

03:07:36.760 --> 03:07:37.866
and to school boards.

03:07:37.866 --> 03:07:39.598
And we're just gonna need

03:07:39.598 --> 03:07:42.984
as much of the State Board's help as possible

03:07:42.984 --> 03:07:45.706
to make a plan actionable.

03:07:45.706 --> 03:07:47.203
And that's a keyword that we have always said.

03:07:47.203 --> 03:07:50.357
So, the Steering Committee also said

03:07:50.357 --> 03:07:53.258
that they are very willing and ready and able to help

03:07:53.258 --> 03:07:55.781
State Board members from their communities.

03:07:55.781 --> 03:07:57.880
So if you need help from any Steering Committee members,

03:07:57.880 --> 03:08:00.058
they're just, they're very proud

03:08:00.058 --> 03:08:01.309
of the work they've done.

03:08:01.309 --> 03:08:03.521
And they would be ready to help with the rollout

03:08:03.521 --> 03:08:08.354
once the entire long range plan is finished and completed.

03:08:10.567 --> 03:08:13.304
<v ->I would just recommend that</v>

03:08:13.304 --> 03:08:14.685
if we're continuing,

03:08:14.685 --> 03:08:17.022
you know, as we put this out and wanting to gather

03:08:17.022 --> 03:08:18.367
feedback that we

03:08:18.367 --> 03:08:20.160
cut that off about August first,

03:08:20.160 --> 03:08:22.683
because by the time you

03:08:22.683 --> 03:08:25.257
get it, then you got to assemble it

03:08:25.257 --> 03:08:26.575
and figure out how to organize it.

03:08:26.575 --> 03:08:27.969
And by the time it gets out to us,

03:08:27.969 --> 03:08:31.170
I mean that's gonna take a little while

03:08:31.170 --> 03:08:32.629
once you try to assemble

03:08:32.629 --> 03:08:33.900
and do the feedback.

03:08:33.900 --> 03:08:36.692
And if the committee wants to get on a conference call

03:08:36.692 --> 03:08:37.762
or something,

03:08:37.762 --> 03:08:39.187
and kind of talk over some of the feedback

03:08:39.187 --> 03:08:40.296
that was received or whatever

03:08:40.296 --> 03:08:41.922
before doing the final recommendations,

03:08:41.922 --> 03:08:44.762
I mean it would at least lend itself to that

03:08:44.762 --> 03:08:46.868
because you'd have a bit of some time there.

03:08:46.868 --> 03:08:48.007
That's my recommendation.

03:08:48.007 --> 03:08:50.079
<v ->We had talked about it's a little bit hard</v>

03:08:50.079 --> 03:08:52.039
to catch superintendents

03:08:52.039 --> 03:08:53.658
and education folks right now

03:08:53.658 --> 03:08:55.206
because they're all leaving

03:08:55.206 --> 03:08:56.660
to go on a much deserved vacation.

03:08:56.660 --> 03:08:57.743
But we could,

03:08:58.642 --> 03:09:00.899
yeah, if there's no objection from

03:09:00.899 --> 03:09:02.613
fellow board members,

03:09:02.613 --> 03:09:03.918
I'm fine with first of August.

03:09:03.918 --> 03:09:05.640
<v ->I just want to make sure that we get</v>

03:09:05.640 --> 03:09:07.776
plenty of time to get that feedback

03:09:07.776 --> 03:09:09.398
and then say oh, well we need to,

03:09:09.398 --> 03:09:10.842
here is what was pointed out,

03:09:10.842 --> 03:09:12.097
a glaring whatever,

03:09:12.097 --> 03:09:14.279
by several people.

03:09:14.279 --> 03:09:16.371
So I just would like to give just a little more cushion.

03:09:16.371 --> 03:09:18.368
<v Ms. Cargill>Okay, is everybody okay with that?</v>

03:09:18.368 --> 03:09:19.454
<v ->Is everybody okay with that?</v>

03:09:19.454 --> 03:09:20.818
<v Ms. Cargill>August first</v>

03:09:20.818 --> 03:09:21.869
instead of mid-August?

03:09:21.869 --> 03:09:22.874
<v ->Yeah, August first.</v>

03:09:22.874 --> 03:09:23.881
Yeah, yeah.

03:09:23.881 --> 03:09:24.966
Just to get,

03:09:24.966 --> 03:09:26.659
give us some cushion

03:09:26.659 --> 03:09:27.930
that if we need to adjust anything

03:09:27.930 --> 03:09:29.460
based on the feedback.

03:09:29.460 --> 03:09:31.793
(inaudible)

03:09:33.164 --> 03:09:34.234
<v ->The only thought I have</v>

03:09:34.234 --> 03:09:36.651
is professional development

03:09:36.651 --> 03:09:38.919
doesn't begin until

03:09:38.919 --> 03:09:40.664
probably second week of August.

03:09:40.664 --> 03:09:42.802
I mean in some cases, first week of August.

03:09:42.802 --> 03:09:46.385
And that's also an additional opportunity--

03:09:48.672 --> 03:09:49.675
<v Ms. Bahorich>For?</v>

03:09:49.675 --> 03:09:53.080
<v ->For this PowerPoint and going back</v>

03:09:53.080 --> 03:09:55.616
and visiting with area educators.

03:09:55.616 --> 03:09:59.172
I know if I'm on several people's calendars

03:09:59.172 --> 03:10:00.546
to do like

03:10:00.546 --> 03:10:02.217
back to school welcomes.

03:10:02.217 --> 03:10:04.476
And they're gonna be modified to

03:10:04.476 --> 03:10:07.691
be long range plan conversations.

03:10:07.691 --> 03:10:08.524
So--

03:10:11.028 --> 03:10:12.825
<v ->Do you have a way</v>

03:10:12.825 --> 03:10:14.628
of contacting people earlier in the process

03:10:14.628 --> 03:10:16.569
to make sure that they're--

03:10:16.569 --> 03:10:18.043
cause even if you present it then,

03:10:18.043 --> 03:10:19.043
and getting it back--

03:10:19.043 --> 03:10:23.273
(interposing voices speaking)

03:10:23.273 --> 03:10:24.273
I'm just trying to get some cushion

03:10:24.273 --> 03:10:25.322
because our meeting is September 11th,

03:10:25.322 --> 03:10:26.155
that week.

03:10:27.858 --> 03:10:29.019
<v Mr. Cortez>When do you have to finalize</v>

03:10:29.019 --> 03:10:30.027
your agenda,

03:10:30.027 --> 03:10:31.072
the agenda?

03:10:31.072 --> 03:10:32.895
<v Ms. Timmons>Mid-August.</v>

03:10:32.895 --> 03:10:34.525
The last point.

03:10:34.525 --> 03:10:36.697
<v ->That's the concern that I have</v>

03:10:36.697 --> 03:10:38.248
is that the feedback won't have been received

03:10:38.248 --> 03:10:40.081
in time to process it.

03:10:41.548 --> 03:10:42.550
That's the problem.

03:10:42.550 --> 03:10:43.556
Cause once you get it,

03:10:43.556 --> 03:10:44.560
you got to assemble it.

03:10:44.560 --> 03:10:46.607
You got to put it in a way that's usable.

03:10:46.607 --> 03:10:49.679
Otherwise, why take the feedback.

03:10:49.679 --> 03:10:51.195
So I just don't,

03:10:51.195 --> 03:10:52.643
I want to be able to make any adjustments,

03:10:52.643 --> 03:10:54.085
that's all.

03:10:54.085 --> 03:10:55.085
<v ->I just wanted to</v>

03:10:55.085 --> 03:10:57.189
remind the board that you have received input

03:10:57.189 --> 03:10:59.241
from about 12,000 Texans

03:10:59.241 --> 03:11:00.939
through your survey

03:11:00.939 --> 03:11:03.176
and the community meetings that you hosted.

03:11:03.176 --> 03:11:04.837
We're happy to get more,

03:11:04.837 --> 03:11:06.937
but you've gotten a tremendous amount of input already

03:11:06.937 --> 03:11:10.218
that shaped your recommendations and visions.

03:11:10.218 --> 03:11:11.723
<v ->But this will be the first time</v>

03:11:11.723 --> 03:11:13.255
that they really had a chance to see

03:11:13.255 --> 03:11:14.485
the actual output

03:11:14.485 --> 03:11:16.093
that is proposed.

03:11:16.093 --> 03:11:17.738
So that's why I would really,

03:11:17.738 --> 03:11:21.002
I would really like to give us some cushion in there

03:11:21.002 --> 03:11:23.820
because I want us to consider that public feedback.

03:11:23.820 --> 03:11:25.730
That'll give us just two more weeks to--

03:11:25.730 --> 03:11:27.597
<v - Member Cortez> First of August?

03:11:27.597 --> 03:11:28.594
August first.

03:11:28.594 --> 03:11:29.700
August first.

03:11:29.700 --> 03:11:30.783
August first.

03:11:36.488 --> 03:11:37.520
Okay, that would be great

03:11:37.520 --> 03:11:38.686
because I really,

03:11:38.686 --> 03:11:40.149
I hate getting stuff so late

03:11:40.149 --> 03:11:41.659
that you don't know what to do with it

03:11:41.659 --> 03:11:42.858
and there's no time to do it.

03:11:42.858 --> 03:11:46.136
I really like to have cushions for consideration.

03:11:46.136 --> 03:11:48.060
(inaudible)

03:11:48.060 --> 03:11:48.893
Yeah.

03:11:49.937 --> 03:11:51.040
Well, you're gonna have to,

03:11:51.040 --> 03:11:52.741
what is it today?

03:11:52.741 --> 03:11:53.743
The 15th,

03:11:53.743 --> 03:11:55.258
so you got two weeks

03:11:55.258 --> 03:11:57.508
(laughter)

03:11:58.792 --> 03:11:59.959
to get it out.

03:12:01.194 --> 03:12:02.897
That'll stress him out, that's right.

03:12:02.897 --> 03:12:05.397
Any other comments about that?

03:12:06.832 --> 03:12:10.292
So, so the recommendation before us

03:12:10.292 --> 03:12:12.581
is to authorize the Texas Comprehensive Center,

03:12:12.581 --> 03:12:14.649
the Texas Education Agency staff

03:12:14.649 --> 03:12:16.186
to move forward with the drafting,

03:12:16.186 --> 03:12:18.252
a long range plan for public education

03:12:18.252 --> 03:12:19.698
based on the vision and recommendations

03:12:19.698 --> 03:12:21.561
proposed by the long range plans Steering Committee

03:12:21.561 --> 03:12:24.817
as presented to the Committee on School Initiatives

03:12:24.817 --> 03:12:26.540
the other day,

03:12:26.540 --> 03:12:28.098
and then in your hands.

03:12:28.098 --> 03:12:29.676
And this is just a voice vote.

03:12:29.676 --> 03:12:31.017
All those in favor, say aye.

03:12:31.017 --> 03:12:32.030
<v Group>Aye.</v>

03:12:32.030 --> 03:12:33.031
<v ->All those opposed, say no.</v>

03:12:33.031 --> 03:12:34.515
Thank you members.

03:12:34.515 --> 03:12:36.779
That motion passes as well.

03:12:36.779 --> 03:12:38.362
And now, do we have

03:12:39.799 --> 03:12:40.839
any other,

03:12:40.839 --> 03:12:42.275
that's it on the agenda.

03:12:42.275 --> 03:12:44.897
So any, I want to make sure we cover any personal

03:12:44.897 --> 03:12:47.693
achievements or recognitions.

03:12:47.693 --> 03:12:48.882
I know some of you guys

03:12:48.882 --> 03:12:50.293
received different recognitions

03:12:50.293 --> 03:12:51.416
recently.

03:12:51.416 --> 03:12:53.078
So Mr. Mercer,

03:12:53.078 --> 03:12:54.480
then Mr. Cortez.

03:12:54.480 --> 03:12:57.474
<v ->Just one recognition and one achievement.</v>

03:12:57.474 --> 03:12:59.466
One recognition for the board,

03:12:59.466 --> 03:13:01.152
we've talked about it for years.

03:13:01.152 --> 03:13:02.265
We talked about this.

03:13:02.265 --> 03:13:03.266
I would like to see it.

03:13:03.266 --> 03:13:04.322
I want to help,

03:13:04.322 --> 03:13:06.314
but this September, as a prelude

03:13:06.314 --> 03:13:07.996
to our contest, Mr. Maynard,

03:13:07.996 --> 03:13:10.370
we do that 2.5 billion check

03:13:10.370 --> 03:13:12.259
for the 2018-2019 millennia.

03:13:12.259 --> 03:13:14.132
We invite the governor,

03:13:14.132 --> 03:13:15.297
lieutenant governor here.

03:13:15.297 --> 03:13:16.458
It's a five minute thing.

03:13:16.458 --> 03:13:17.754
But as a great prelude

03:13:17.754 --> 03:13:19.325
to a contest to say hey,

03:13:19.325 --> 03:13:20.407
this is what we do.

03:13:20.407 --> 03:13:21.638
People don't know that,

03:13:21.638 --> 03:13:22.658
but I would encourage,

03:13:22.658 --> 03:13:23.708
I would be willing to work with staff

03:13:23.708 --> 03:13:25.201
to do that check

03:13:25.201 --> 03:13:27.566
of 2.5 billion dollars.

03:13:27.566 --> 03:13:29.879
And we've been given about 11 or 12 billion

03:13:29.879 --> 03:13:31.372
in the last 10 years.

03:13:31.372 --> 03:13:32.730
But we've talked about it for years.

03:13:32.730 --> 03:13:34.321
I think it's the Nike time.

03:13:34.321 --> 03:13:35.525
Let's just do it and make it a big item.

03:13:35.525 --> 03:13:37.817
And the second thing,

03:13:37.817 --> 03:13:38.918
personal,

03:13:38.918 --> 03:13:41.613
I always talk about journeys

03:13:41.613 --> 03:13:43.178
and iron sharpens iron.

03:13:43.178 --> 03:13:45.255
That's just my theme, and I appreciate that.

03:13:45.255 --> 03:13:47.088
I apologize if I miss,

03:13:51.650 --> 03:13:53.983
(inaudible)

03:13:55.514 --> 03:13:57.285
for the Mercers and (inaudible),

03:13:57.285 --> 03:13:59.111
we've had a lot of journeys.

03:13:59.111 --> 03:14:01.992
A lot of times, when iron,

03:14:01.992 --> 03:14:04.717
(crying)

03:14:04.717 --> 03:14:05.754
sorry.

03:14:05.754 --> 03:14:07.770
It's sharpened iron.

03:14:07.770 --> 03:14:10.672
My daughter will be going to Stanford Law School.

03:14:10.672 --> 03:14:12.922
(applause)

03:14:14.216 --> 03:14:16.883
(group chatter)

03:14:22.147 --> 03:14:23.160
<v Ms. Bahorich>That's right.</v>

03:14:23.160 --> 03:14:24.298
Mr. Cortez.

03:14:24.298 --> 03:14:25.340
And then Ms. Perez-Diaz,

03:14:25.340 --> 03:14:27.085
I think you had a hand up, right.

03:14:27.085 --> 03:14:28.231
Okay.

03:14:28.231 --> 03:14:29.977
Mr. Cortez.

03:14:29.977 --> 03:14:31.817
<v ->Just gonna ask for that information for</v>

03:14:31.817 --> 03:14:32.900
the branding,

03:14:34.291 --> 03:14:35.718
the branding fund.

03:14:35.718 --> 03:14:37.714
If the agency can give us

03:14:37.714 --> 03:14:40.453
the name and if there's a Tax ID number,

03:14:40.453 --> 03:14:42.360
and maybe a letter that we can attach.

03:14:42.360 --> 03:14:44.415
<v Ms. Bahorich>We do need a letter.</v>

03:14:44.415 --> 03:14:45.585
<v ->That is maybe signed by--</v>

03:14:45.585 --> 03:14:46.743
<v Ms. Bahorich>That's a really good idea.</v>

03:14:46.743 --> 03:14:47.754
<v ->Maybe signed by the chair of the board</v>

03:14:47.754 --> 03:14:50.896
asking entities that are involved

03:14:50.896 --> 03:14:52.144
saying this is a non-profit

03:14:52.144 --> 03:14:53.487
and tax deductible

03:14:53.487 --> 03:14:56.477
because I think this is a great idea, Tom.

03:14:56.477 --> 03:14:58.648
So thank you for your leadership on that.

03:14:58.648 --> 03:15:01.851
<v Ms. Bahorich>Ms. Beltran,</v>

03:15:01.851 --> 03:15:03.293
did you have your hand up?

03:15:03.293 --> 03:15:05.150
Or Ms. Melton-Malone, okay.

03:15:05.150 --> 03:15:06.650
Ms. Melton-Malone.

03:15:07.650 --> 03:15:09.052
(inaudible)

03:15:09.052 --> 03:15:10.088
Yeah.

03:15:10.088 --> 03:15:11.211
No, go ahead.

03:15:11.211 --> 03:15:12.313
We're just--

03:15:12.313 --> 03:15:13.381
<v ->I waited until now.</v>

03:15:13.381 --> 03:15:14.837
I wish I done it sooner,

03:15:14.837 --> 03:15:15.857
cause Shelly's not here.

03:15:15.857 --> 03:15:17.313
But I just wanted to say a special thank you

03:15:17.313 --> 03:15:18.951
to Monica and Shelly

03:15:18.951 --> 03:15:21.355
for all the work they did in our meeting yesterday.

03:15:21.355 --> 03:15:22.605
I don't know,

03:15:22.605 --> 03:15:25.365
the rest of you didn't have a chance to be there,

03:15:25.365 --> 03:15:27.272
but we were still on item agenda number one

03:15:27.272 --> 03:15:28.855
at 12:15 yesterday.

03:15:30.406 --> 03:15:31.908
<v Ms. Bahorich>Yeah, we were.</v>

03:15:31.908 --> 03:15:33.114
<v ->We were.</v>

03:15:33.114 --> 03:15:34.715
And Monica and Shelly

03:15:34.715 --> 03:15:38.462
were so wonderful about explaining things

03:15:38.462 --> 03:15:39.629
and telling us

03:15:40.920 --> 03:15:43.449
why we could or could not do something.

03:15:43.449 --> 03:15:45.809
And they had put in so many hours of work

03:15:45.809 --> 03:15:49.470
before that to try to get everything covered.

03:15:49.470 --> 03:15:53.198
And I just wanted to say a special thank you to them

03:15:53.198 --> 03:15:54.347
for all that they did,

03:15:54.347 --> 03:15:56.379
beforehand and for the way

03:15:56.379 --> 03:15:58.441
they helped in our meeting yesterday.

03:15:58.441 --> 03:15:59.691
<v ->I would like to echo that.</v>

03:15:59.691 --> 03:16:01.293
I've been on multiple calls

03:16:01.293 --> 03:16:02.842
with Ms. Martinez.

03:16:02.842 --> 03:16:04.509
Yeah, let's do this.

03:16:07.445 --> 03:16:08.453
And really tried to help

03:16:08.453 --> 03:16:09.988
pull the stakeholders in.

03:16:09.988 --> 03:16:12.747
Let's try to hammer this out as closely as we can get it

03:16:12.747 --> 03:16:14.093
to come together.

03:16:14.093 --> 03:16:16.901
An so that's something our board has worked super hard on

03:16:16.901 --> 03:16:20.007
on just about tons of topics.

03:16:20.007 --> 03:16:22.070
How do we move closer

03:16:22.070 --> 03:16:23.800
together with the folks who

03:16:23.800 --> 03:16:24.855
have a stake in this

03:16:24.855 --> 03:16:27.345
as best we can do that.

03:16:27.345 --> 03:16:29.960
Can't always get right meeting in the middle,

03:16:29.960 --> 03:16:31.507
but you can get closer together

03:16:31.507 --> 03:16:32.846
and that's something that

03:16:32.846 --> 03:16:34.472
has been a value on this board.

03:16:34.472 --> 03:16:37.476
And I greatly appreciate that.

03:16:37.476 --> 03:16:40.143
Ms. Hardy, and then Mr. Maynard.

03:16:42.054 --> 03:16:43.053
<v ->In regard to that, I want to say,</v>

03:16:43.053 --> 03:16:45.141
thank you so much for

03:16:45.141 --> 03:16:48.340
working out the new plan for the

03:16:48.340 --> 03:16:49.507
social studies

03:16:50.458 --> 03:16:51.541
streamlining.

03:16:53.381 --> 03:16:54.958
I actually got to come to one of the meetings,

03:16:54.958 --> 03:16:57.847
and if you can afford that time to do that,

03:16:57.847 --> 03:16:59.213
it's very valuable.

03:16:59.213 --> 03:17:00.512
Those teachers are very sincere

03:17:00.512 --> 03:17:01.536
in what they're doing

03:17:01.536 --> 03:17:02.780
and they're working very hard.

03:17:02.780 --> 03:17:05.480
And I like the idea of us

03:17:05.480 --> 03:17:07.596
revisiting some things

03:17:07.596 --> 03:17:08.708
that we had questions about,

03:17:08.708 --> 03:17:10.243
ahead of time,

03:17:10.243 --> 03:17:12.257
before it comes a first reading.

03:17:12.257 --> 03:17:14.562
I think that's going to resolve a lot of our

03:17:14.562 --> 03:17:16.850
problems with that.

03:17:16.850 --> 03:17:18.415
And I'm hoping for a very smooth

03:17:18.415 --> 03:17:19.903
first reading.

03:17:19.903 --> 03:17:21.202
But the fact is

03:17:21.202 --> 03:17:23.907
the new plan, I think, might be working.

03:17:23.907 --> 03:17:25.541
We hope so.

03:17:25.541 --> 03:17:27.919
And I appreciate the long range

03:17:27.919 --> 03:17:29.896
looking at all that.

03:17:29.896 --> 03:17:30.919
<v ->Well, I appreciate that, Ms. Hardy.</v>

03:17:30.919 --> 03:17:32.553
After every time we do

03:17:32.553 --> 03:17:34.703
curriculum standards,

03:17:34.703 --> 03:17:37.654
adoption of going through that whole process,

03:17:37.654 --> 03:17:38.754
we always revise.

03:17:38.754 --> 03:17:40.205
And we did a major revision last year

03:17:40.205 --> 03:17:42.257
in the interest of transparency

03:17:42.257 --> 03:17:43.749
and including more people.

03:17:43.749 --> 03:17:46.638
And with those kinds of changes,

03:17:46.638 --> 03:17:48.619
when you go through a,

03:17:48.619 --> 03:17:50.706
you know, a significant process change,

03:17:50.706 --> 03:17:52.245
it's always a little trixy.

03:17:52.245 --> 03:17:54.104
You know, did you make the right move.

03:17:54.104 --> 03:17:55.264
How do you--

03:17:55.264 --> 03:17:57.913
I think all the documents we got this week

03:17:57.913 --> 03:17:59.407
were incredibly helpful.

03:17:59.407 --> 03:18:00.651
All the feedback

03:18:00.651 --> 03:18:02.096
and everything we got.

03:18:02.096 --> 03:18:04.625
Assembling that whole notebook thing

03:18:04.625 --> 03:18:06.757
was a huge deal.

03:18:06.757 --> 03:18:08.020
And just thinking that through.

03:18:08.020 --> 03:18:09.419
This is the first time we've ever done it this way.

03:18:09.419 --> 03:18:11.820
And including all the feedback from the ESC's,

03:18:11.820 --> 03:18:14.824
you know, education service centers.

03:18:14.824 --> 03:18:16.659
I mean we've just never gathered

03:18:16.659 --> 03:18:17.926
on any curriculum review

03:18:17.926 --> 03:18:19.757
the extent that we have.

03:18:19.757 --> 03:18:21.197
As you'll recall,

03:18:21.197 --> 03:18:23.273
the English organizations

03:18:23.273 --> 03:18:24.657
helped us with the last one

03:18:24.657 --> 03:18:25.841
when we did English,

03:18:25.841 --> 03:18:27.118
but they were kind of doing

03:18:27.118 --> 03:18:28.762
that assembling and putting people together.

03:18:28.762 --> 03:18:30.927
We saw a lot of value for that.

03:18:30.927 --> 03:18:33.378
We changed our process to get a lot more people involved.

03:18:33.378 --> 03:18:35.608
But that put a lot of work on staff

03:18:35.608 --> 03:18:37.248
to try to figure out how that,

03:18:37.248 --> 03:18:38.779
what that looks like.

03:18:38.779 --> 03:18:40.157
And how do we pull that stuff in.

03:18:40.157 --> 03:18:42.060
So we greatly appreciate it.

03:18:42.060 --> 03:18:44.634
Because it's been a monumental hill to climb

03:18:44.634 --> 03:18:48.016
with what we've asked to increase our transparency

03:18:48.016 --> 03:18:49.256
and inclusions.

03:18:49.256 --> 03:18:52.063
Both with, and with interest groups as well.

03:18:52.063 --> 03:18:53.405
They met with interest groups.

03:18:53.405 --> 03:18:55.478
We've never done a formal meeting of interest groups

03:18:55.478 --> 03:18:57.033
way early on either.

03:18:57.033 --> 03:18:59.017
There's just been a big outreach

03:18:59.017 --> 03:19:01.164
with our social studies streamlining.

03:19:01.164 --> 03:19:02.904
Mr. Maynard.

03:19:02.904 --> 03:19:05.321
<v ->Just to real quick comment,</v>

03:19:07.143 --> 03:19:08.217
and people ask me sometimes,

03:19:08.217 --> 03:19:10.450
do you enjoy serving on the board.

03:19:10.450 --> 03:19:11.283
And I do.

03:19:12.133 --> 03:19:13.501
I really enjoy the work

03:19:13.501 --> 03:19:15.736
and I enjoy working with the people on the board.

03:19:15.736 --> 03:19:19.299
I have to believe that this board

03:19:19.299 --> 03:19:22.045
has done a lot to engender

03:19:22.045 --> 03:19:24.532
a lot of public confidence.

03:19:24.532 --> 03:19:26.232
And just thank you for that.

03:19:26.232 --> 03:19:27.341
But I also need to,

03:19:27.341 --> 03:19:28.387
I would be remiss

03:19:28.387 --> 03:19:30.108
if I didn't mention that the long suffering

03:19:30.108 --> 03:19:31.398
Mrs. Maynard is in the audience.

03:19:31.398 --> 03:19:33.408
Back here behind me.

03:19:33.408 --> 03:19:35.201
(laughter)

03:19:35.201 --> 03:19:37.451
(applause)

03:19:38.764 --> 03:19:39.857
And I'd also like to introduce

03:19:39.857 --> 03:19:41.364
Sam Mills,

03:19:41.364 --> 03:19:42.794
who is enjoying his,

03:19:42.794 --> 03:19:43.899
he's from Wisconsin

03:19:43.899 --> 03:19:46.409
by way of Oklahoma State University

03:19:46.409 --> 03:19:48.486
and is enjoying his first

03:19:48.486 --> 03:19:50.492
hot Texas summer.

03:19:50.492 --> 03:19:52.640
(laughter)

03:19:52.640 --> 03:19:55.985
<v Woman>Don't stretch the truth.</v>

03:19:55.985 --> 03:19:57.300
<v ->Mr. Rowley and Dr. Ellis.</v>

03:19:57.300 --> 03:19:58.536
<v ->While we're giving out staff accolades,</v>

03:19:58.536 --> 03:20:02.222
I want to mention our executive director,

03:20:02.222 --> 03:20:03.803
Debbie Radcliffe.

03:20:03.803 --> 03:20:06.767
I've had several issues come up

03:20:06.767 --> 03:20:09.054
recently with regard to

03:20:09.054 --> 03:20:11.143
needing to contact TEA folks

03:20:11.143 --> 03:20:14.570
and Debbie's just been phenomenal about that

03:20:14.570 --> 03:20:17.363
as well as a perfect referral source

03:20:17.363 --> 03:20:19.090
whenever people call you and say

03:20:19.090 --> 03:20:20.714
what about this.

03:20:20.714 --> 03:20:22.642
And the answer is, that's not our jurisdiction.

03:20:22.642 --> 03:20:24.368
I send them to Debbie,

03:20:24.368 --> 03:20:25.857
and she handles that.

03:20:25.857 --> 03:20:27.877
Thank you Debbie, for all you do as well.

03:20:27.877 --> 03:20:30.127
(applause)

03:20:31.015 --> 03:20:32.211
(inaudible)

03:20:32.211 --> 03:20:33.598
<v ->And Lenny.</v>

03:20:33.598 --> 03:20:35.110
Those are our two powerhouses

03:20:35.110 --> 03:20:37.820
holding down the State Board office.

03:20:37.820 --> 03:20:38.822
(laughter)

03:20:38.822 --> 03:20:40.142
(inaudible)

03:20:40.142 --> 03:20:41.147
And Megan keeping us straight

03:20:41.147 --> 03:20:42.804
in Monica's office too.

03:20:42.804 --> 03:20:43.721
Absolutely.

03:20:44.690 --> 03:20:46.207
Any other comments?

03:20:46.207 --> 03:20:47.337
Yeah, Dr. Ellis, sorry.

03:20:47.337 --> 03:20:48.644
Sorry, Dr. Ellis.

03:20:48.644 --> 03:20:49.693
I crossed you off already.

03:20:49.693 --> 03:20:50.773
Sorry.

03:20:50.773 --> 03:20:51.804
<v ->I didn't get my chance yet.</v>

03:20:51.804 --> 03:20:52.823
I'm gonna follow along the same lines of

03:20:52.823 --> 03:20:54.028
Member Mercer

03:20:54.028 --> 03:20:56.659
and talk about my family and a proud moment.

03:20:56.659 --> 03:20:57.761
So about a month ago,

03:20:57.761 --> 03:20:58.929
on May 11th,

03:20:58.929 --> 03:21:00.521
I had my twins, Jacob and Katie,

03:21:00.521 --> 03:21:02.223
graduate from Texas A&M University.

03:21:02.223 --> 03:21:04.922
A very, very proud moment.

03:21:04.922 --> 03:21:06.303
And then eight days later,

03:21:06.303 --> 03:21:08.049
my daughter brought my wife and I a son-in-law.

03:21:08.049 --> 03:21:09.795
<v Ms. Bahorich>That's wonderful.</v>

03:21:09.795 --> 03:21:10.924
<v ->So she was married the next weekend.</v>

03:21:10.924 --> 03:21:12.312
And so it's been a busy

03:21:12.312 --> 03:21:13.629
time around the Ellis household.

03:21:13.629 --> 03:21:16.277
But lots of great memories and times.

03:21:16.277 --> 03:21:17.906
<v ->Absolutely.</v>

03:21:17.906 --> 03:21:19.277
And speaking of family,

03:21:19.277 --> 03:21:21.119
I would encourage anyone interested

03:21:21.119 --> 03:21:22.284
in looking at Marisa,

03:21:22.284 --> 03:21:23.714
Member Perez's,

03:21:23.714 --> 03:21:26.275
Perez-Diaz's pictures of her son

03:21:26.275 --> 03:21:28.403
turning one year old here pretty quick.

03:21:28.403 --> 03:21:32.895
And all the amazing stuff she put together for his party.

03:21:32.895 --> 03:21:34.267
It's very cute.

03:21:34.267 --> 03:21:36.164
(laughter)

03:21:36.164 --> 03:21:38.027
So any, yeah, Ms. Cargill.

03:21:38.027 --> 03:21:39.700
<v ->In the same spirit,</v>

03:21:39.700 --> 03:21:41.233
don't we love to get happy texts.

03:21:41.233 --> 03:21:44.022
So my son in Los Angeles just texted,

03:21:44.022 --> 03:21:46.100
I am a new member

03:21:46.100 --> 03:21:47.851
of the Rhode Theater Company.

03:21:47.851 --> 03:21:49.429
He had auditioned for this theater

03:21:49.429 --> 03:21:51.356
in Los Angeles.

03:21:51.356 --> 03:21:53.160
And you get a lot of nos when you're in acting,

03:21:53.160 --> 03:21:55.306
as Tincy and Marty

03:21:55.306 --> 03:21:56.805
and those of us who have fine arts children know,

03:21:56.805 --> 03:21:59.247
and so he had been pretty stressed about this,

03:21:59.247 --> 03:22:00.688
the audition last week.

03:22:00.688 --> 03:22:02.565
And he just texted that he got it.

03:22:02.565 --> 03:22:04.291
So I'm so proud of him

03:22:04.291 --> 03:22:05.393
and happy for him.

03:22:05.393 --> 03:22:06.415
(applause)

03:22:06.415 --> 03:22:07.563
Love fine arts, don't we.

03:22:07.563 --> 03:22:08.396
Yeah.

03:22:09.816 --> 03:22:12.566
(microphone cuts out)

03:22:14.385 --> 03:22:17.272
Mr. Rowley knows about that with his daughter.

03:22:17.272 --> 03:22:18.586
(laughter)

03:22:18.586 --> 03:22:21.146
Starving artist, yeah.

03:22:21.146 --> 03:22:22.353
And so members today,

03:22:22.353 --> 03:22:23.819
I don't like to talk about agenda stuff here,

03:22:23.819 --> 03:22:25.858
but I want to thank you for your votes,

03:22:25.858 --> 03:22:27.040
pulling together again

03:22:27.040 --> 03:22:28.506
on the Mexican American studies.

03:22:28.506 --> 03:22:30.749
We heard from a lot of the public

03:22:30.749 --> 03:22:32.351
and I think we did a great job

03:22:32.351 --> 03:22:33.421
of coming together, again,

03:22:33.421 --> 03:22:36.231
around an issue that sometimes can be difficult.

03:22:36.231 --> 03:22:38.453
We've done this over and over on this board

03:22:38.453 --> 03:22:39.982
and I'm very proud of that.

03:22:39.982 --> 03:22:42.068
I say that to every group that I talk to

03:22:42.068 --> 03:22:43.423
about how hard we try to work,

03:22:43.423 --> 03:22:45.106
pull together,

03:22:45.106 --> 03:22:46.457
let's move forward,

03:22:46.457 --> 03:22:48.506
because we got so many things to work on.

03:22:48.506 --> 03:22:50.396
And so I greatly appreciate

03:22:50.396 --> 03:22:52.866
all the work that folks put into that.

03:22:52.866 --> 03:22:55.738
And also, the activists that came

03:22:55.738 --> 03:22:57.606
and the people who care deeply about this issue.

03:22:57.606 --> 03:22:59.194
I think this is very important

03:22:59.194 --> 03:23:01.728
that we have an open, welcoming environment here

03:23:01.728 --> 03:23:03.460
at the State Board of Education

03:23:03.460 --> 03:23:05.091
for all those people who care about a lot of issues

03:23:05.091 --> 03:23:07.896
and make them feel at home.

03:23:07.896 --> 03:23:08.988
And I think we do a pretty good job.

03:23:08.988 --> 03:23:10.153
We don't always get it perfect,

03:23:10.153 --> 03:23:11.376
but I think we do a pretty good job

03:23:11.376 --> 03:23:12.997
of making people feel welcome.

03:23:12.997 --> 03:23:14.360
So I want to continue in that spirit

03:23:14.360 --> 03:23:16.718
every time we have a meeting.

03:23:16.718 --> 03:23:17.926
The other thing is,

03:23:17.926 --> 03:23:19.701
I just want to encourage you

03:23:19.701 --> 03:23:20.703
to do your homework

03:23:20.703 --> 03:23:21.863
and come ready on that first reading

03:23:21.863 --> 03:23:23.304
and the September meeting

03:23:23.304 --> 03:23:24.801
with what you're gonna try to do

03:23:24.801 --> 03:23:25.807
for Social Studies.

03:23:25.807 --> 03:23:27.046
People we do not want to get

03:23:27.046 --> 03:23:28.257
into a second reading.

03:23:28.257 --> 03:23:29.883
We've tried to

03:23:29.883 --> 03:23:32.017
wean ourselves off of second reading

03:23:32.017 --> 03:23:33.227
as best we can.

03:23:33.227 --> 03:23:34.511
I mean you can't get it perfect.

03:23:34.511 --> 03:23:35.528
You're still gonna have a few.

03:23:35.528 --> 03:23:37.029
But let's move toward that first reading

03:23:37.029 --> 03:23:39.517
on any changes that we try to do

03:23:39.517 --> 03:23:41.455
for any of these curriculum standards.

03:23:41.455 --> 03:23:44.465
And I really, I'm concerned

03:23:44.465 --> 03:23:47.292
after going through everybody's concerns.

03:23:47.292 --> 03:23:49.099
And I think that's perfectly fine.

03:23:49.099 --> 03:23:50.254
We did the right thing.

03:23:50.254 --> 03:23:51.468
We punted it back to the committee.

03:23:51.468 --> 03:23:52.817
We definitely did the right thing.

03:23:52.817 --> 03:23:55.605
But we've got a lot of standards

03:23:55.605 --> 03:23:57.614
in eighth grade

03:23:57.614 --> 03:23:59.741
US History and World History.

03:23:59.741 --> 03:24:01.548
So if you want to,

03:24:01.548 --> 03:24:02.641
as a matter of fact,

03:24:02.641 --> 03:24:04.103
Mr. Maynard and I were talking about

03:24:04.103 --> 03:24:06.074
how do we, as a board,

03:24:06.074 --> 03:24:08.166
kind of look at essential knowledge

03:24:08.166 --> 03:24:10.463
versus wow, this is so great.

03:24:10.463 --> 03:24:11.731
This is a great story.

03:24:11.731 --> 03:24:12.883
We love this.

03:24:12.883 --> 03:24:14.132
This is such a neat thing to say.

03:24:14.132 --> 03:24:17.014
Kind of trying to call through

03:24:17.014 --> 03:24:18.815
and look at what we've,

03:24:18.815 --> 03:24:20.936
we've still got heavy, heavy, heavy material

03:24:20.936 --> 03:24:22.368
in all three of those grades.

03:24:22.368 --> 03:24:23.824
And I would love to see,

03:24:23.824 --> 03:24:25.681
think of a ratings system or something,

03:24:25.681 --> 03:24:28.616
essential, don't get rid of this.

03:24:28.616 --> 03:24:31.333
And over to zero, which is like, eh,

03:24:31.333 --> 03:24:32.788
you know, that's great.

03:24:32.788 --> 03:24:34.657
But I just think we need to get

03:24:34.657 --> 03:24:35.961
a little more serious about it

03:24:35.961 --> 03:24:37.139
before we do the first reading.

03:24:37.139 --> 03:24:38.193
That's all.

03:24:38.193 --> 03:24:39.273
And I'm encouraging you individually to look at that.

03:24:39.273 --> 03:24:42.974
And look at the surveys that we got

03:24:42.974 --> 03:24:45.834
back in November, I want to say,

03:24:45.834 --> 03:24:46.667
from--

03:24:47.863 --> 03:24:48.867
(inaudible)

03:24:48.867 --> 03:24:49.894
yeah, we get,

03:24:49.894 --> 03:24:51.050
no I think we got them in November.

03:24:51.050 --> 03:24:52.461
You might want to send those out again,

03:24:52.461 --> 03:24:53.591
the survey responses.

03:24:53.591 --> 03:24:54.722
They were on Excel worksheet,

03:24:54.722 --> 03:24:56.027
or Excel sheets.

03:24:56.027 --> 03:24:58.965
<v Monica>And the work group A information</v>

03:24:58.965 --> 03:25:00.849
that's in your binder is

03:25:00.849 --> 03:25:04.332
a summary of those surveys as well.

03:25:04.332 --> 03:25:05.832
<v ->So it's in your,</v>

03:25:06.884 --> 03:25:07.884
so look through your binders

03:25:07.884 --> 03:25:09.550
and take those home and spend some time.

03:25:09.550 --> 03:25:11.872
But I think we've got some more work to do

03:25:11.872 --> 03:25:14.666
on what is known as streamlining.

03:25:14.666 --> 03:25:16.492
I think we just really got

03:25:16.492 --> 03:25:17.651
to get a little more serious about it.

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So members, thank you for the amazing meeting this week.

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I appreciate each and every one of you.

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You all bring unique

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and wonderful perspectives to the board.

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And have a great summer.

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We'll see you in September.