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Call the meeting to order.
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Yep, Miss Mosay, yes.
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Okay, Miss Mosay, call the next contestant.
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Good afternoon board.
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Our next proposal is Royal Public Schools,
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whose proposed superintendent Doctor Soner Tarim
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is a fellow with the Pahara-Aspen Leadership Institute
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and has the distinction of designing
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and leading the most academically successful
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charter school network here in Texas.
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The innovative curriculum of the proposed application
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seeks to marry STEM education with a heavy emphasis
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on reading and social and emotional learning.
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We are recommending Royal Academy
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for four campuses in the Austin and Houston area
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to serve students in grades K through 12.
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Here today is the proposed superintendent
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Doctor Soner Tarim and board member Doctor Pascal.
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Okay, Doctor Tarim or Dr. Pascal,
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whoever wants to go first.
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And just, if you, would make sure that
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your microphone is activated and speak up.
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Oh, I guess.
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I'm sorry.
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We probably need to go ahead and make the motion now.
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Let's do that.
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If you gentlemen can just stay right there.
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But Miss Cargill, you wanna make the motion?
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Okay, members, we're on page six at the very bottom
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of the Committee on School Initiatives minutes.
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It's recommended by the Committee on School Initiatives
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that the State Board of Education veto Royal Public Schools
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Austin and Houston scheduled to open
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in the 2021 school year.
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You can see the vote on the bottom of page six
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with three members voting yes and two members voting no.
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Okay, thank you, Miss Cargill.
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Gentlemen, you may proceed.
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Okay, members of the board,
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thank you for giving us the opportunity.
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Sorry, oh my God.
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Yes, I'll do my best.
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Mister chairman, members of the board,
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thank you for giving us opportunity to speak before you.
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So, I've been doing this many, many years.
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But I'm so nervous.
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I put down some notes.
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I'm gonna read from my notes.
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I apologize.
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I am the founder and proposed CEO of Royal Public Schools.
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I was also the founder and former CEO
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of Harmony Public Schools.
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Which is one of the highest performing
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charter schools in Texas.
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When I left Harmony in 2017,
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we had 54 schools and were serving nearly 34000 students.
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That placed Harmony in
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the top 50 large school system in Texas.
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My charter school journey begin
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while I was working on my PhD at Texas A&M University,
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which is one of the finest
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higher education institution in Texas.
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While I was teaching undergrad students
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science-related courses,
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I discovered that students who came to Texas A&M
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lack interest in math and science.
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So, with the help of a professor at Texas A&M
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who was running a charter school in College Station,
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I started exploring how I can establish
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a charter school system that can impact
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the students who want to study STEM education.
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So, we wrote our first charter application
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and submitted to TEA
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and it was approved in April 2000.
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Within five months, we opened our door in Houston
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with 200 students.
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And, two years later, we opened our second location
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here in Austin on Rundberg Lane.
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And then our third location was in 2004
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was in Dallas, Texas.
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Right around 2003, 2004 school years,
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Texas started paying attention to STEM education.
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And, as part of private-public partnership,
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the Texas High School Project Initiative was launched
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by the governor's office, TEA, Dell Foundation,
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Gates Foundation, and many others.
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Harmony was the early grand recipient from this initiative.
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Through Texas High School Project,
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we received over $14 million
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from the Gates Foundation, Dell Foundation,
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and several other foundations.
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Not only we receive funding for our schools,
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but they also hire a business consulting firm
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to teach us how to incubate and replicate
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a successful school program.
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They also provided a scholarship
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for me to attend Harvard Business School business program
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to learn business practices.
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As a result, we began replicating
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our schools in all major cities in Texas.
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Fast forward.
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Several years ago, I was nominated for
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and completed a two year fellowship program
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at the prestigious Aspen Institute.
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In that program, as part of the fellowship project,
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I started doing research on social and emotional learning.
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I realized that social and emotional learning
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could be a game changer in our public education.
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So, I decided to incorporate what I know the most, STEM,
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and incorporate SEL to STEM education.
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So, I phrase the work STREAMS-360.
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I have to tell you that,
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when we started the STEM education back in 2000,
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I don't claim that we invented STEM.
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But we were the only school system in Texas
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doing STEM education when STEM wasn't cool.
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In 2017, while I was doing my STREAMS-360 research,
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I decided to step down being CEO
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and devoted my full time on
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this Royal Charter School application.
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After leaving Harmony, I established an LLC,
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a consulting and measurement firm, to pay the bills.
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Since I have done 50 plus charter schools
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incubation and replication,
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I wanted to use my expertise
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while I was working on my nonprofit Royal Public Schools.
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In 2017, just before I left Harmony,
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I was also selected for
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the charter school of the year in Texas.
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I was also nominated to be a Broad Foundation fellow.
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Due to my workload during that year,
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I delayed and started my Broad Fellowship just this year.
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In closing, 19 years ago,
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I came before this board group, just like today,
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and I promised numbers that,
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if I am granted a charter, I would not let you down
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and create one of the most highest performing
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charter schools in this state.
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I think I kept my promise.
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And I intend to do so today.
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So, I'm gonna take some time.
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My time back to Pascal.
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Yes, it's a privilege to stand before you
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on behalf of Royal Public Schools.
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I'm a lifelong educator.
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My two daughters are teachers.
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My master's degree is in education.
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As is my doctorate from UCLA.
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As chief academic officer at the Art Institute of Houston,
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I visited Harmony Schools about eight years ago.
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And I met Doctor Tarim.
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I was astounded at the persistence, day-to-day,
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that they had.
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And the graduation rates that they had.
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But what most impressed.
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What impressed me the most was walking around
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visiting classrooms, going into some of the computer labs,
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and even popping my head into
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the lunchroom area to see these students.
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The vitality, their upbeat body language.
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There's really a positive, nurturing culture at Harmony.
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That image stuck in my mind.
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So, a number of years later.
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Actually, two years ago, I had the opportunity
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to join with a new venture, an adventure,
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to build on the past success
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and experience of Doctor Soner Tarim
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in 20 years in the charter school field
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as a leader and someone who is gotten quality results
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wherever he's been.
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So, I just want to note that
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the Royal School Board is a mix of
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business people, legal backgrounds, and also educators.
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And we have total confidence in the leadership
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of our CEO, Doctor Soner Tarim.
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And we expect to build on past successes and research
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and experience to build a brighter future
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for the children of the great state of Texas.
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Thank you, gentlemen.
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Any questions?
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Miss Hardy.
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Yes, I have a couple of questions for Doctor Tarim.
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First one is social and emotional learning.
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Can you summarize what that means to you?
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Social and emotional learning.
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Yes, ma'am.
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So, as I mentioned during the first interview,
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there's a lot of misuse.
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Since it's a buzzword these days,
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there's are lots of different use.
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So, in our.
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First of all, what I would describe
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is social and emotional learning start with the definition.
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Basically, it is the capacity to gain
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skills, attitudes, and behaviors
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to deal effectively and ethically
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with the daily task of challenges.
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So, in the Royal Academy, we believe that
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social and emotional learning
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will support all aspects of our education.
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Not just we're gonna teach as a course level.
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But what we're trying to incorporate.
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And it's a challenge.
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I mean, you heard yesterday some of the ISD folks
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that they have provide social and emotional learning.
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But it's a very challenging.
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When you try to incorporate this in every subject area.
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So, we have created a Royal teaching framework
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that really incorporates this social and emotional learning
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in all aspect area.
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So, we're gonna utilize, basically,
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five component of social and emotional learning
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into our program.
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Including self-awareness, self-management,
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responsible decision making, relationship skills,
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and also social awareness.
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Those are the five components that
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we feel they will utilize in our program.
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Thank you.
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The other question I have is.
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I know that you have developed a certain curriculum.
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And I want to know if the basis of that curriculum.
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Is it Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills?
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Or is it Common Core?
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From everything I've read about the resources.
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I have them in front of me here.
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The Share My Lesson, which is based on Common Core.
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And the Teaching Channel, which is based on Common Core.
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And what's this other one?
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The great teachers demonstrate moving to deeper learning
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is based on Common Core.
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And I know you've written a curriculum
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that is used nationwide.
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A lot of states have Common Core.
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But we don't in Texas.
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And whatever is used in Alabama in your school.
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They said that it would be replicated,
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the same curriculum, in Texas.
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And I want to know how you're doing that
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without having in be Common Core.
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Yes, ma'am.
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Miss Hardy, I can assure you.
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And I have said this before.
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When we, several years ago.
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About five years ago, we received one of the largest grant
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while I was CEO at Harmony.
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$30 million grant from the federal government.
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And, at the time, a lot of people thought that
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this was only given to schools who actually do Common Core.
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Which is not true.
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And I sent a letter to.
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I believe it was to Miss Cargill.
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At the time, she was the chairman.
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And assured her that everything we do at Harmony
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and what we're going to do at Royal is TEKS-based.
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We do not.
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I can assure you that we do not use
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that word anywhere in our program or in our curriculum.
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It's all TEKS-based curriculum.
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I did write charter application for other states.
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Did you mention?
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And it's actually based on our program.
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It's not based on their program.
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So, they are using our program pretty much.
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But all these resources,
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which are listed in your application
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that you would be using, are Common Core-based.
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Most of those resources are used
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in many other schools, also, in Texas.
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But they are sold in different places.
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Basically, we look at those.
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Everything is aligned to Texas standards.
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You were talking about the federal program.
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It was my understanding, as well, that.
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And I never saw it any other place.
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That you could even be considered for that money
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unless you were a Common Core entity.
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No, ma'am.
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We clearly identify and told it "This is a TEKS school.
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We are TEKS school.
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We're not gonna use anything else."
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Okay, thank you.
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Doctor Tarim, can you speak on
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the social and emotional learning?
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Carry it a little bit further
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with what Miss Hardy was mentioning.
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Who will coordinate the SEL program
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on each of your campuses?
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So, we will have counselors in our schools.
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And we're gonna teach.
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Basically train every one of our teachers as part of.
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Because this is a schoolwide program.
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And our goal is to integrate this
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social and emotional learning in every subject.
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So, to a counselor, assistant principal, and lead principal,
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basically, we're gonna utilize this in every subject.
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That's what I thought.
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That it was counselors. But correct me if I'm wrong.
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But was there any money budgeted for counselors?
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Yes, sir.
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Yes, definitely.
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It's in the budget.
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It's there.
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It's sad to hear that.
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I saw some people who have commented that
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we have no counselor in our school budget.
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Second question I have is that
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I understand that the agency
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has changed your proposal from
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granting you eight campuses to four.
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There's gonna be two elementaries, a middle,
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and a high school in north Austin.
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And then also one near
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the Alief Independent School District.
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With that changing to four,
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can you give us some guidance on
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what your plan will be with the change
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in number of campuses.
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Sure, so, based on my research, the ideal school.
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If we are talking about a 21st century.
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Preparing our kids for college.
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What I discovered over the past 19 years.
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The best high school model is to have
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600 student plus or minus.
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600 students for a high school.
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Ideal size to really provide a lot of AP courses,
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elective courses we can do dual credit.
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So, that's my research.
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And it's scientific research.
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The ideal size high school is 600 to 900.
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No more than.
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So, what I design, in my proposal,
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with the first school that I requested for each series,
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is, if you take the high school 600,
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then, to have 600 kids, you have to have
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elementary school with 576 students.
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And then you have to have two elementary school
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that support that high school
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to have healthy population, financially viable.
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There's a lot of schools.
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If you have less than 600 high school kids,
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you cannot financially be viable.
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So, I call it cluster schools.
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Four schools.
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Two elementary, one middle, one high school
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creates 2396 kids in one cluster.
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But the agency took it down to two.
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Which I have to basically go back
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and look at and study.
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And then create the ideal model to make sure
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financially viable continually.
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So, have you made any projections
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on will it be two elementaries in Houston
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and two in Austin?
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Or do you still plan to do.
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So, I start with K-2, sir.
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K-2 grades with 280 students.
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And everything is based on 19 years experience.
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And then.
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I guess my question is do you anticipate
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you moving all your campuses to one of those two cities
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or still starting elementary schools in each one
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with the changes in the proposal?
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Yes, sir.
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Two separate places.
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And you're still anticipating to be
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in the Blanton Elementary?
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Or just middle and elementary school?
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Burnet.
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Burnet, I'm sorry.
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In Austin.
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Is that correct?
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Do you still anticipate to be
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in Alief Independent School District in Houston?
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Well, I think there's some pushback from Alief ISD.
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I mean, again, I have to say this.
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I'm a public school product.
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And charter schools are public school.
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People who know me.
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I will never speak against public schools.
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But, as part of our charter application.
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And the question ask.
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Demonstrate there's a need there.
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Demonstrate school need.
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I have to put numbers there based on the TEA data.
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The data available to me.
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And I've studied.
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I mean, I've been studying Houston, Austin, major cities.
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I have done this for Harmony many, many years.
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I identify the need area.
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But I understand that superintendent of Alief ISD
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is not happy that I'm gonna be there.
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And I told agency, "If you want me to add a location."
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Which I have identified many location in Houston
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that there's a need.
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Lots of bad schools.
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I'm happy to do so.
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And I know I can't.
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You have to do this with your board and so forth.
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But can you give us some idea of,
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if it's not in Alief, what are some of
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those other target areas of Houston that
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you might potentially get to?
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So, my second backup location,
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which I did not put in the application.
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I'm happy to share this with the agency
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and with the members.
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That it's the northwest side.
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Which is bordered with the Spring Branch ISD
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and Houston ISD.
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This actual location.
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It's not exactly Alief ISD.
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It's the border between Alief and Houston ISD.
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And the second backup location that I have is right on I-10
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and between Spring Branch ISD and Houston ISD.
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And there are five schools that are identified
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within three miles that have F rating
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based on Children at Risk report in Houston.
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And one last clarifying question.
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And I know we've kind of talked about this.
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And you heard it in some of the other ones.
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But on clarity of what the designations were.
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I think, in part of your application,
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you said that Texas Education Agency
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had described these campuses within a four mile radius
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as failing campuses.
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There are no failing campuses
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in the TEA accountability system.
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As there are failing districts.
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But there's not a failing campus.
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I just would like you to maybe make note that
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there's not, by the TEA system, a failing campus.
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That is correct, sir.
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Thank you for asking.
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So, in my application, if you'll look at the handouts,
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it clearly says it's based on the Children at Risk report.
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Those credential.
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If they were rated based on what we know,
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those campus will get that rating.
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But, yes, that's correct.
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Last year, only district had a letter rating.
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And campus will receive that rating later on.
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But my definition is based on Children at Risk.
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I also mention in the application that
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those are improvement required campuses.
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So, kind of like.
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Clearly defined it, yes.
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Okay, thank you.
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Mister Maynard, Miss Davis, Mister Allen,
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Miss Perez, and Miss Hardy a second time.
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Lots of questions.
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Lots of questions.
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And I represent half of Travis County.
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And so, do you recognize this?
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What's been your conversation with Austin ISD?
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What's been the interaction with Austin ISD?
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Not part of the process?
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You didn't do anything?
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But you're proposing to occupy Austin ISD?
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But you've not had any interaction?
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(response too faint to hear clearly)
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Okay.
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And I'm just asking where.
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This presentation says failing schools, Austin.
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And so, when I talk to their trustees
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and I talk to their leadership,
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they say these are not failing schools.
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Sorry.
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I provided handouts based on Children at Risk
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for very reliable data that I rely on.
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And those are.
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So, what's your.
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If I can drill down into what you're saying is that
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you are specifically looking at
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at risk students as a subpopulation.
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That is correct, sir.
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I will also add that those.
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In my application, I identified which one
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are possible F schools.
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I also looked at most recent.
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In the handout, you will see most recent data by TEA.
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ISD data itself.
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Actually on their website.
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It shows that Burnet.
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We were talking about Burnet Elementary.
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I mean, I hate to talk about this in public.
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But it shows improve required.
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What they claimed yesterday was not accurate.
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And especially in student growth and student achievement.
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Both Burnet Elementary School is improve required.
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It's in the TEA website, 2018, and also ISD website.
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And you got a copy in the handout.
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I do kind of have concerns with.
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And, particularly, when we take a subpopulation,
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we understand that certain subpopulations
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in certain schools struggle.
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Particularly students who are socioeconomically challenged.
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But that doesn't necessarily mean that
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that's a failing school.
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The definition is not my definition.
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When I wrote the charter, really,
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I rely on the resources.
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I provided every resource reference in the application.
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So, yes.
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And, to be clear, I think that you're trying to
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promote a particular position.
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That is correct, sir.
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I get that.
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It's a little bit of salesmanship.
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And, frankly, the school district
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is defending their position.
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That is correct.
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You know, the truth of most things,
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it's probably somewhere in between.
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It's not exactly as black and white as you say it is
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or that they say it is.
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That is correct.
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I mean, I agree.
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I apologize, again, for making this public.
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But this was in the application.
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It's public information.
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If the schools are rated next year based on these numbers,
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they are gonna be rated with the letters.
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Okay, when I looked into the overview
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of anticipated need,
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when we got down to the English language learners
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that's on page nine of the application,
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I see a Royal Academy Houston 25% anticipated.
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I see Alief ISD at 22.8.
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Houston, I see four.
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I don't see anything for Austin.
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I'm glad that you asked, sir.
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So, unfortunately, in the application,
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the application format that we have,
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there is no place for the second school.
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So, since I am applying two locations,
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I asked the agency.
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"So, I have only one place for Royal Houston.
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What about opening a school in Austin?
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Can I have another column?"
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It's impossible to insert column there.
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It's part of the technical difficulty.
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00:24:32.147 --> 00:24:34.260
So, I choose one location.
544
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And those numbers represent the average of.
545
00:24:39.130 --> 00:24:42.933
And I understand, if I put school in any neighborhood,
546
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it will 99% reflect the neighborhood school.
547
00:24:47.100 --> 00:24:49.690
So, these numbers are not Austin ISD numbers.
548
00:24:49.690 --> 00:24:51.603
I mean, I just.
549
00:24:53.120 --> 00:24:54.320
I don't represent Houston.
550
00:24:54.320 --> 00:24:55.227
I represent Austin.
551
00:24:55.227 --> 00:24:57.150
And so, here's my concern is that.
552
00:24:58.720 --> 00:25:01.770
I'm assuming, then, that you have looked at that.
553
00:25:01.770 --> 00:25:03.953
Do you understand what the need is for ELL?
554
00:25:03.953 --> 00:25:04.869
That is correct.
555
00:25:04.869 --> 00:25:05.702
Can you tell me what it is?
556
00:25:05.702 --> 00:25:08.730
Well, it varies from school to school.
557
00:25:08.730 --> 00:25:12.190
But, when I open school in that area,
558
00:25:12.190 --> 00:25:14.930
it's gonna be exact same numbers.
559
00:25:14.930 --> 00:25:15.980
You don't know what the number is?
560
00:25:15.980 --> 00:25:18.834
I know it's about 50% ELL.
561
00:25:18.834 --> 00:25:21.110
I mean, we've got, in some cases,
562
00:25:21.110 --> 00:25:23.190
it's closer to 90%.
563
00:25:23.190 --> 00:25:24.320
Sir, I have several schools.
564
00:25:24.320 --> 00:25:25.573
I was a.
565
00:25:27.860 --> 00:25:28.693
You need my vote.
566
00:25:28.693 --> 00:25:29.947
I represent Austin, right?
567
00:25:31.149 --> 00:25:35.670
So, you've left out part of my constituency.
568
00:25:35.670 --> 00:25:37.232
It's not up to me.
569
00:25:37.232 --> 00:25:38.083
It was.
570
00:25:38.083 --> 00:25:41.935
You know, as clever as you are,
571
00:25:41.935 --> 00:25:45.263
I think that there's a way to overcome the.
572
00:25:45.263 --> 00:25:49.223
If it were me, I would find a way to articulate it.
573
00:25:50.530 --> 00:25:53.270
Certainly, I mean, I articulate in the text section.
574
00:25:53.270 --> 00:25:54.500
But not in the table section.
575
00:25:54.500 --> 00:25:57.063
Because, again, table did not allow me to insert.
576
00:26:01.131 --> 00:26:04.900
I articulated in the text portion.
577
00:26:04.900 --> 00:26:06.350
But not in the table portion.
578
00:26:08.670 --> 00:26:10.913
I don't have any further questions at this time.
579
00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:15.840
Miss Davis, then Mister Allen, then Miss Perez,
580
00:26:15.840 --> 00:26:19.170
then Miss Hardy and Doctor Ellis.
581
00:26:19.170 --> 00:26:20.500
And it's their second turn.
582
00:26:20.500 --> 00:26:24.298
So, someone else might get ahead of you guys.
583
00:26:24.298 --> 00:26:25.131
Thank you.
584
00:26:25.131 --> 00:26:28.340
So, you mention that you got pushback from Alief.
585
00:26:28.340 --> 00:26:31.620
And so, you more than likely are gonna
586
00:26:31.620 --> 00:26:33.170
reevaluate whether or not
587
00:26:33.170 --> 00:26:35.790
you're gonna move to that area, correct?
588
00:26:35.790 --> 00:26:40.280
If agency or this body asked me to do so, I'm happy.
589
00:26:40.280 --> 00:26:41.700
Yes, ma'am.
590
00:26:41.700 --> 00:26:45.020
My goal is to serve the children of Texas.
591
00:26:45.020 --> 00:26:46.271
Where there's a need.
592
00:26:46.271 --> 00:26:48.210
And I have done so.
593
00:26:48.210 --> 00:26:52.337
This is my commitment to State Board of Education members
594
00:26:52.337 --> 00:26:54.090
and the agency.
595
00:26:54.090 --> 00:26:55.360
Just reflecting on what you said
596
00:26:55.360 --> 00:26:57.860
about maybe not building in Alief,
597
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like you had originally proposed.
598
00:27:00.110 --> 00:27:01.010
You said you got some pushback.
599
00:27:01.010 --> 00:27:03.210
And so, that made you reflect on
600
00:27:03.210 --> 00:27:04.580
whether or not you were going to
601
00:27:04.580 --> 00:27:07.240
go ahead and move forward with the Alief.
602
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:09.140
No, agency asked me.
603
00:27:09.140 --> 00:27:11.650
So, I will honor that, yes.
604
00:27:11.650 --> 00:27:14.890
All right, so, I guess I'm asking you that particularly
605
00:27:14.890 --> 00:27:17.200
because it seems like you value
606
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what the community says about your schools.
607
00:27:19.520 --> 00:27:22.129
And it seems like Austin community
608
00:27:22.129 --> 00:27:24.070
wasn't too happy about it.
609
00:27:24.070 --> 00:27:25.910
Just like the community in Alabama
610
00:27:25.910 --> 00:27:27.580
hasn't been too happy about it.
611
00:27:27.580 --> 00:27:29.910
So, I'm just wondering if you would consider
612
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what they've asked for.
613
00:27:32.320 --> 00:27:35.490
And that's for you not to be in their communities.
614
00:27:35.490 --> 00:27:36.790
If you consider that at all.
615
00:27:36.790 --> 00:27:38.702
Because you said you hadn't had many conversations
616
00:27:38.702 --> 00:27:41.503
with Austin leadership.
617
00:27:44.300 --> 00:27:46.848
Are you asking Austin, I assume?
618
00:27:46.848 --> 00:27:48.030
Yes.
619
00:27:48.030 --> 00:27:51.276
So, I mean, so far, what I heard.
620
00:27:51.276 --> 00:27:54.700
The testimony from yesterday from the Austin leadership.
621
00:27:54.700 --> 00:27:56.120
I have great respect for them.
622
00:27:56.120 --> 00:27:57.770
What they do in the school system.
623
00:27:57.770 --> 00:27:58.603
No question.
624
00:27:58.603 --> 00:28:03.560
You know how hard it is to run school and open schools.
625
00:28:03.560 --> 00:28:04.393
It's difficult.
626
00:28:04.393 --> 00:28:06.940
Especially large school district like Austin, Houston.
627
00:28:06.940 --> 00:28:08.200
It's not easy.
628
00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:11.510
But, obviously, nobody wants competition.
629
00:28:11.510 --> 00:28:13.433
Nobody will like competition.
630
00:28:15.620 --> 00:28:16.908
Even if I have conversation.
631
00:28:16.908 --> 00:28:17.741
Which I had conversation with
632
00:28:17.741 --> 00:28:19.700
many school district in the past.
633
00:28:19.700 --> 00:28:21.010
District leaders.
634
00:28:21.010 --> 00:28:22.590
And I actually, last year.
635
00:28:22.590 --> 00:28:26.993
It was intended to put an agreement through SB-82.
636
00:28:29.300 --> 00:28:30.290
1882.
637
00:28:30.290 --> 00:28:32.753
And I couldn't find any school district
638
00:28:32.753 --> 00:28:35.120
that would actually allow us to be partner
639
00:28:35.120 --> 00:28:36.764
and have a school in their district.
640
00:28:36.764 --> 00:28:38.300
I don't want to say failing.
641
00:28:38.300 --> 00:28:40.450
But struggling schools.
642
00:28:40.450 --> 00:28:43.630
So, it goes both ways.
643
00:28:43.630 --> 00:28:46.027
But they were allowing other charters
644
00:28:46.027 --> 00:28:46.860
to establish those partnerships.
645
00:28:46.860 --> 00:28:48.607
Just not you, correct?
646
00:28:48.607 --> 00:28:51.080
I don't know if any other charter school
647
00:28:51.080 --> 00:28:53.670
was allowed in Austin ISD.
648
00:28:53.670 --> 00:28:55.289
No, no, you said Texas.
649
00:28:55.289 --> 00:28:56.320
You said you didn't find anybody.
650
00:28:56.320 --> 00:28:58.870
Only one school that I know, last year,
651
00:28:58.870 --> 00:29:01.000
was allowed to be partnership in a rural area.
652
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:02.020
That's all I know.
653
00:29:02.020 --> 00:29:04.252
Just one out of 1200 districts.
654
00:29:04.252 --> 00:29:06.159
Oh, we have one in my area in Grand Prairie.
655
00:29:06.159 --> 00:29:07.783
You should look into that.
656
00:29:07.783 --> 00:29:08.616
Thank you.
657
00:29:08.616 --> 00:29:09.557
That's one of them, yes.
658
00:29:09.557 --> 00:29:13.480
Okay, I have a couple other questions.
659
00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:15.770
So, let's say my son.
660
00:29:15.770 --> 00:29:16.603
I don't have kids.
661
00:29:16.603 --> 00:29:18.160
But this is my hypothetical son.
662
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:20.330
My son has a discipline record.
663
00:29:20.330 --> 00:29:22.560
He's been in ISS a few times.
664
00:29:22.560 --> 00:29:24.640
I'll tell you why in just a little bit.
665
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:26.240
But could you describe the process
666
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:27.810
of how you would exclude my son
667
00:29:27.810 --> 00:29:30.040
and make sure he can't enroll in your school?
668
00:29:30.040 --> 00:29:31.360
And how you would deny him
669
00:29:31.360 --> 00:29:33.513
his free and appropriate public education?
670
00:29:34.840 --> 00:29:37.540
Miss Davis, your son will be welcome to our schools.
671
00:29:37.540 --> 00:29:41.737
As we welcome from private school all the time.
672
00:29:41.737 --> 00:29:43.777
We had that conversation at the first interview.
673
00:29:43.777 --> 00:29:45.410
And it says in your application that
674
00:29:45.410 --> 00:29:48.240
you won't allow a student with a disciplinary record.
675
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:49.490
No, ma'am.
676
00:29:49.490 --> 00:29:51.340
Let me rephrase that correctly again.
677
00:29:52.320 --> 00:29:54.780
As part of the Texas charter school law,
678
00:29:54.780 --> 00:29:57.122
charter schools are not allowed to enroll
679
00:29:57.122 --> 00:30:00.640
student with demonstrated discipline issues,
680
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.983
like if they had guns, violence.
681
00:30:06.356 --> 00:30:08.090
If they have criminal records,
682
00:30:08.090 --> 00:30:10.910
charter schools have option not to enroll them.
683
00:30:10.910 --> 00:30:13.100
But, if they have an in school suspension,
684
00:30:13.100 --> 00:30:15.960
out of school suspension, anything,
685
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:18.710
we don't ask those in application.
686
00:30:18.710 --> 00:30:21.770
The only thing we ask is name, parents' name,
687
00:30:21.770 --> 00:30:24.300
and what grade level they're asking.
688
00:30:24.300 --> 00:30:25.150
That's all we ask.
689
00:30:25.150 --> 00:30:27.375
So, you will not ask for disciplinary records?
690
00:30:27.375 --> 00:30:28.208
No, ma'am.
691
00:30:28.208 --> 00:30:29.357
Not all the charter schools ask.
692
00:30:29.357 --> 00:30:33.840
Again, 19 years I have been doing this.
693
00:30:33.840 --> 00:30:36.260
We have never exclude any student with discipline issues.
694
00:30:36.260 --> 00:30:37.093
Not even actual.
695
00:30:37.093 --> 00:30:40.480
We have never asked anybody if they had criminal background.
696
00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:41.650
We don't do that.
697
00:30:41.650 --> 00:30:43.930
Even if we say in an application.
698
00:30:43.930 --> 00:30:46.730
I don't remember any time during the 35000 kids
699
00:30:46.730 --> 00:30:49.510
that we asked somebody to leave the school.
700
00:30:49.510 --> 00:30:50.343
Never.
701
00:30:52.116 --> 00:30:53.377
Okay, and one more.
702
00:30:53.377 --> 00:30:56.343
Can you describe your teacher recruitment plan?
703
00:30:57.460 --> 00:30:58.293
Yes, ma'am.
704
00:30:58.293 --> 00:31:02.830
So, there are multiple phases for teacher recruitment.
705
00:31:02.830 --> 00:31:04.430
First and foremost, obviously,
706
00:31:04.430 --> 00:31:09.430
our partnership with local education service centers.
707
00:31:10.345 --> 00:31:12.450
Minotem has great certification program.
708
00:31:12.450 --> 00:31:15.440
I was a board member for six years.
709
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:17.422
So, I know what kind of program they run.
710
00:31:17.422 --> 00:31:19.670
So, we go ask.
711
00:31:19.670 --> 00:31:21.200
Basically try to hire.
712
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:22.910
Recruit people from there.
713
00:31:22.910 --> 00:31:26.025
And, first thing first, we take resumes.
714
00:31:26.025 --> 00:31:29.210
And, based on the resume review screening,
715
00:31:29.210 --> 00:31:32.800
we call them for in person or a phone interview.
716
00:31:32.800 --> 00:31:34.110
And, as a result of phone interview,
717
00:31:34.110 --> 00:31:35.200
we call them in person interview.
718
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:36.840
There are multiple phase.
719
00:31:36.840 --> 00:31:38.130
Following in person interview,
720
00:31:38.130 --> 00:31:41.330
we have mock teaching practice for each teacher.
721
00:31:41.330 --> 00:31:42.910
And then, following that,
722
00:31:42.910 --> 00:31:44.513
we have a group of people.
723
00:31:44.513 --> 00:31:46.696
Just not one person.
724
00:31:46.696 --> 00:31:49.244
But principal, a STEM principal,
725
00:31:49.244 --> 00:31:50.860
and one of the subject matter teacher
726
00:31:50.860 --> 00:31:52.733
will agree and hire this person.
727
00:31:54.650 --> 00:31:56.720
A hiring plan. I was just wondering about recruitment.
728
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:58.460
Like where will you be finding your teachers from?
729
00:31:58.460 --> 00:32:00.770
Teachers From America, local universities.
730
00:32:00.770 --> 00:32:03.463
Oh, yeah, most of the teachers that we hire,
731
00:32:03.463 --> 00:32:05.770
ma'am, is from Houston area or Austin area.
732
00:32:05.770 --> 00:32:09.540
And we go with job fairs and universities,
733
00:32:09.540 --> 00:32:11.440
alternative program, education service center.
734
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:15.181
I mean, every other people that go find teachers,
735
00:32:15.181 --> 00:32:17.523
we pretty much follow the same pattern.
736
00:32:22.070 --> 00:32:22.923
Mister Allen.
737
00:32:22.923 --> 00:32:24.303
Then Miss Perez.
738
00:32:25.610 --> 00:32:27.380
And Doctor Ellis.
739
00:32:27.380 --> 00:32:30.470
No, it's your first time, isn't it?
740
00:32:30.470 --> 00:32:32.703
Okay, then you're after Miss Perez.
741
00:32:33.590 --> 00:32:35.300
Doctor Soner, I don't want to pretend
742
00:32:35.300 --> 00:32:37.050
like I don't know that I'm asking you
743
00:32:37.050 --> 00:32:39.620
questions that we haven't been
744
00:32:39.620 --> 00:32:41.430
talking for the last 10 years.
745
00:32:41.430 --> 00:32:42.730
Because we have.
746
00:32:42.730 --> 00:32:45.320
And I have been probably to every campus that you have
747
00:32:45.320 --> 00:32:46.587
had leadership over.
748
00:32:46.587 --> 00:32:48.635
And we walked those campuses.
749
00:32:48.635 --> 00:32:50.370
And we've had conversations about
750
00:32:50.370 --> 00:32:53.760
some of this stuff that appeared on my desk over the years
751
00:32:53.760 --> 00:32:55.719
in terms of Turkey and what have you.
752
00:32:55.719 --> 00:32:58.094
So, I just want to apologize for that,
753
00:32:58.094 --> 00:32:59.520
because I know the work that's been done
754
00:32:59.520 --> 00:33:00.780
to make sure that children are getting
755
00:33:00.780 --> 00:33:02.670
a quality education under your leadership
756
00:33:02.670 --> 00:33:04.120
while you were there.
757
00:33:04.120 --> 00:33:05.235
But my question is.
758
00:33:05.235 --> 00:33:08.486
And this was my concern 16 years ago.
759
00:33:08.486 --> 00:33:11.020
Today, you must be doing pretty good,
760
00:33:11.020 --> 00:33:14.530
'cause you requested eight schools.
761
00:33:14.530 --> 00:33:17.930
And right now we're discussing four.
762
00:33:17.930 --> 00:33:19.343
I want to hear from you what is
763
00:33:19.343 --> 00:33:21.263
your five and your 10 year plan?
764
00:33:22.220 --> 00:33:27.220
So, as I said in my previous charter life, Harmony,
765
00:33:29.542 --> 00:33:32.297
I told this body and the agency,
766
00:33:32.297 --> 00:33:34.173
"As long as schools are successful,
767
00:33:35.830 --> 00:33:37.480
we're going to continue replicate
768
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:39.610
in a place where there's a need."
769
00:33:39.610 --> 00:33:41.920
And I cannot predict right now.
770
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:45.550
Because the reason I choose four schools
771
00:33:45.550 --> 00:33:48.040
clustered in two cities.
772
00:33:48.040 --> 00:33:51.200
I want to demonstrate this cluster level work really work.
773
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:52.670
And then, once it works,
774
00:33:52.670 --> 00:33:54.090
the agency will make a determination
775
00:33:54.090 --> 00:33:56.370
on whether I need to replicate or not.
776
00:33:56.370 --> 00:33:59.090
And the demand from the parents.
777
00:33:59.090 --> 00:34:02.478
So far, what I have done at Harmony.
778
00:34:02.478 --> 00:34:03.890
I mean, there's.
779
00:34:03.890 --> 00:34:07.160
Any place that we open school, there's a huge demand.
780
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:11.010
When I left Harmony, in addition to 35000 students,
781
00:34:11.010 --> 00:34:15.090
we had 25000 applications every year.
782
00:34:15.090 --> 00:34:16.503
Only 2000 gets in.
783
00:34:18.040 --> 00:34:23.040
So, I mean, right now, my five year projection
784
00:34:23.220 --> 00:34:26.710
is what I describe in this application.
785
00:34:26.710 --> 00:34:30.200
And, beyond that, it's up to the agency
786
00:34:30.200 --> 00:34:32.780
to continue to give me charter to replicate.
787
00:34:32.780 --> 00:34:35.250
Whereas I believe in your ability to lead campuses,
788
00:34:35.250 --> 00:34:38.230
I came here today because I was thinking that
789
00:34:38.230 --> 00:34:40.190
we were establishing this school in third ward
790
00:34:40.190 --> 00:34:42.026
and I was against that.
791
00:34:42.026 --> 00:34:42.859
I was totally against that.
792
00:34:42.859 --> 00:34:45.340
I stated earlier about third ward.
793
00:34:45.340 --> 00:34:47.880
And maybe people don't realize that
794
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:50.660
30% of Alief is in my district.
795
00:34:50.660 --> 00:34:53.250
And I'm always concerned about the impact.
796
00:34:53.250 --> 00:34:55.150
And you've addressed that to some degree.
797
00:34:55.150 --> 00:34:57.122
So, I wanted to go on record in saying that
798
00:34:57.122 --> 00:35:00.791
the third ward is a no for me.
799
00:35:00.791 --> 00:35:02.530
And just consider that.
800
00:35:02.530 --> 00:35:04.040
And the consideration on looking
801
00:35:04.040 --> 00:35:07.217
where you are planning your campuses is important.
802
00:35:07.217 --> 00:35:10.320
If you do plan to go into Alief, I would appreciate a call.
803
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:11.420
If you are successful.
804
00:35:14.290 --> 00:35:15.123
Let's see.
805
00:35:15.123 --> 00:35:16.283
It is Miss Perez.
806
00:35:18.680 --> 00:35:19.530
Good afternoon.
807
00:35:21.180 --> 00:35:23.780
I have six pages of questions for you.
808
00:35:26.260 --> 00:35:29.100
Your original application specifically stated that
809
00:35:29.100 --> 00:35:32.990
the Royal facilities would be located in Alief ISD.
810
00:35:32.990 --> 00:35:34.803
Because there were six low performing schools
811
00:35:34.803 --> 00:35:38.750
in a four mile radius of Sneed Elementary.
812
00:35:38.750 --> 00:35:43.750
In 2017-18, three of those schools were not rated
813
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because of Harvey.
814
00:35:44.783 --> 00:35:46.920
And three met standard.
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00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:49.757
In 2016-17, five met standard
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00:35:49.757 --> 00:35:52.697
and only Sneed was low performing.
817
00:35:52.697 --> 00:35:56.220
So, I'm assuming that was an oversight, error,
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00:35:56.220 --> 00:35:58.523
accident on your application.
819
00:36:00.475 --> 00:36:04.480
Miss Perez, again, my numbers I put in the application.
820
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:05.840
At the time when I wrote this application,
821
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:07.190
whatever data available to me.
822
00:36:07.190 --> 00:36:09.220
And I provide references.
823
00:36:09.220 --> 00:36:10.720
And I put those numbers.
824
00:36:10.720 --> 00:36:13.787
So, I go by what I read in
825
00:36:13.787 --> 00:36:17.180
the credible resources that's available.
826
00:36:17.180 --> 00:36:20.640
Whether TEA or Children at Risk in Houston.
827
00:36:20.640 --> 00:36:22.530
And those are the data that I will say.
828
00:36:22.530 --> 00:36:24.670
I don't change numbers.
829
00:36:24.670 --> 00:36:28.433
I just put whatever is in the, you know, source.
830
00:36:29.370 --> 00:36:32.303
Well, I will tell you my resource is TEA.
831
00:36:33.404 --> 00:36:35.560
So, it appears that, perhaps.
832
00:36:35.560 --> 00:36:38.453
And, again, correct me if I'm misstating this.
833
00:36:39.720 --> 00:36:44.430
Royal has created a personal Royal-specific rating system
834
00:36:44.430 --> 00:36:48.410
based on student data, your own parental survey,
835
00:36:48.410 --> 00:36:51.940
a wait list that has not quite been clarified as to how,
836
00:36:51.940 --> 00:36:54.090
if students are on multiple wait lists
837
00:36:54.090 --> 00:36:56.193
for a variety of charter schools.
838
00:36:57.217 --> 00:36:59.310
It has not been quantified.
839
00:36:59.310 --> 00:37:01.500
There's school rating data.
840
00:37:01.500 --> 00:37:04.040
And I believe our data,
841
00:37:04.040 --> 00:37:06.663
your application and my information, don't match.
842
00:37:07.900 --> 00:37:10.070
The available space to build a school
843
00:37:10.070 --> 00:37:11.470
and a limited number of schools
844
00:37:11.470 --> 00:37:14.410
within the STREAM-360 program.
845
00:37:14.410 --> 00:37:17.040
The application also included Houston ISD
846
00:37:17.040 --> 00:37:18.300
with an overall boundary.
847
00:37:18.300 --> 00:37:22.470
But is specific to where the school would be located
848
00:37:22.470 --> 00:37:23.870
based on need.
849
00:37:23.870 --> 00:37:28.320
And, again, based on a Royal-specific rating system.
850
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:30.970
Rather than the state's accountability system.
851
00:37:30.970 --> 00:37:33.017
So, for the record, I would like to know
852
00:37:33.017 --> 00:37:35.950
how exactly was the application amended
853
00:37:35.950 --> 00:37:37.528
and how did we get to a point where,
854
00:37:37.528 --> 00:37:40.587
when it was submitted, it was considering Alief
855
00:37:40.587 --> 00:37:42.590
and now it's not considering Alief?
856
00:37:42.590 --> 00:37:47.493
And this happened in just the last fewer than 24 hours.
857
00:37:48.520 --> 00:37:51.110
Miss Perez, I have not amended any application.
858
00:37:51.110 --> 00:37:53.503
This was just a discussion.
859
00:37:54.530 --> 00:37:55.954
This was just a discussion.
860
00:37:55.954 --> 00:38:00.680
But, again, as I stated earlier, I am happy to.
861
00:38:00.680 --> 00:38:03.910
The direction that I receive from this board
862
00:38:03.910 --> 00:38:07.310
and the agency that I can relocate.
863
00:38:07.310 --> 00:38:11.083
I have backup places that shows secondary schools.
864
00:38:14.255 --> 00:38:15.840
Right, if I could just clarify.
865
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:20.223
That direction came from our office, from the agency.
866
00:38:21.254 --> 00:38:23.523
And not from Doctor Tarim.
867
00:38:24.410 --> 00:38:26.210
Okay, so, the agency is now saying
868
00:38:26.210 --> 00:38:28.270
you cannot go into Alief?
869
00:38:28.270 --> 00:38:30.300
Any reason why?
870
00:38:30.300 --> 00:38:31.530
Or you're recommending that.
871
00:38:31.530 --> 00:38:33.800
The recommendation for the four campuses
872
00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:37.040
was based on the feeder patterns
873
00:38:37.040 --> 00:38:39.310
and based on initial projections.
874
00:38:39.310 --> 00:38:42.360
If you look back at the recommendations that
875
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.880
the commissioners made over the past at least seven years,
876
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:50.400
we don't provide expensive numbers of campuses
877
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:52.010
in that initial application,
878
00:38:52.010 --> 00:38:53.740
because we want to make sure that
879
00:38:53.740 --> 00:38:57.800
our applicants demonstrate academic and financial viability.
880
00:38:57.800 --> 00:38:59.990
The other thing we do in the application process
881
00:38:59.990 --> 00:39:03.400
is we take into consideration all those impact statements.
882
00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:06.660
And, late in the process,
883
00:39:06.660 --> 00:39:09.650
we did receive a letter correspondence that
884
00:39:09.650 --> 00:39:11.750
the commissioner forwarded on to me
885
00:39:11.750 --> 00:39:13.633
that we took into consideration
886
00:39:13.633 --> 00:39:17.520
from Mister Chambers from Alief ISD.
887
00:39:17.520 --> 00:39:20.533
And that occurred in the last 24 hours?
888
00:39:21.497 --> 00:39:24.803
This has not just been the last 24 hours.
889
00:39:26.100 --> 00:39:26.933
No ma'am.
890
00:39:27.810 --> 00:39:30.610
Could I ask for a clarification of that just one second?
891
00:39:30.610 --> 00:39:34.820
And so, Miss Mosay, when the agency
892
00:39:34.820 --> 00:39:35.920
apparently made the suggestion
893
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:37.230
to go from eight to four,
894
00:39:37.230 --> 00:39:39.210
the recommendation to go from eight to four,
895
00:39:39.210 --> 00:39:42.850
did that also include the locations
896
00:39:42.850 --> 00:39:46.290
or just the number from eight to four?
897
00:39:46.290 --> 00:39:49.540
So, the initial conversation was from eight to four.
898
00:39:49.540 --> 00:39:51.725
And then, when we got subsequent information
899
00:39:51.725 --> 00:39:54.630
from the impact statements,
900
00:39:54.630 --> 00:39:59.630
we mentioned that there is a lot of pushback
901
00:39:59.720 --> 00:40:03.154
in the Alief ISD area.
902
00:40:03.154 --> 00:40:07.480
As I've said many times, these proposals are proposals
903
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.910
and premature applicants are not in positions
904
00:40:10.910 --> 00:40:14.110
where they are able to solidify locations.
905
00:40:14.110 --> 00:40:17.520
The research they do is based on
906
00:40:17.520 --> 00:40:19.970
the data that's available to them.
907
00:40:19.970 --> 00:40:21.900
And so, I mentioned.
908
00:40:21.900 --> 00:40:26.900
And so, Doctor Tarim has agreed to look
909
00:40:27.390 --> 00:40:29.700
outside of the Alief area.
910
00:40:29.700 --> 00:40:30.660
Okay, thank you.
911
00:40:30.660 --> 00:40:32.820
Miss Perez, you can continue.
912
00:40:32.820 --> 00:40:37.820
So, just to add a bit to Miss Mosay's comments.
913
00:40:39.118 --> 00:40:44.118
Again, I could be misquoting, summarizing here.
914
00:40:44.210 --> 00:40:46.540
There was quite a bit of pushback from Alief,
915
00:40:46.540 --> 00:40:47.590
the Alief community.
916
00:40:47.590 --> 00:40:51.730
So, therefore, the locations have been revised.
917
00:40:51.730 --> 00:40:53.860
But there was quite a bit of pushback from Judson.
918
00:40:53.860 --> 00:40:56.400
There's quite a bit of pushback from Austin.
919
00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:58.455
There's been quite a bit of pushback from Houston.
920
00:40:58.455 --> 00:40:59.960
There's been quite a bit of pushback from everybody.
921
00:40:59.960 --> 00:41:03.180
But it seems odd to me that only the Alief location
922
00:41:03.180 --> 00:41:04.533
has been adjusted.
923
00:41:05.713 --> 00:41:07.670
Alief superintendent is the only one that
924
00:41:07.670 --> 00:41:10.570
sent us an extensive correspondence
925
00:41:10.570 --> 00:41:12.343
that we took into consideration.
926
00:41:13.550 --> 00:41:16.010
Only because H.D. Chambers communicated with you?
927
00:41:16.010 --> 00:41:18.900
And not any other superintendent communicated with you?
928
00:41:18.900 --> 00:41:20.650
From the list that I just repeated?
929
00:41:21.610 --> 00:41:23.200
Would that be an accurate statement?
930
00:41:23.200 --> 00:41:24.500
No, it would not.
931
00:41:24.500 --> 00:41:27.500
I could not testify absolutely.
932
00:41:27.500 --> 00:41:31.310
The impact statements have information
933
00:41:31.310 --> 00:41:34.537
where you can checkbox this is going to impact ADA.
934
00:41:34.537 --> 00:41:36.070
I would have to look at my notes.
935
00:41:36.070 --> 00:41:38.830
I know that we received impact statements
936
00:41:38.830 --> 00:41:41.723
stating it's going to impact ADA.
937
00:41:41.723 --> 00:41:44.640
I'll remind the board that,
938
00:41:44.640 --> 00:41:47.730
when students do leave a traditional ISD
939
00:41:47.730 --> 00:41:50.740
and go to a charter school, as been discussed,
940
00:41:50.740 --> 00:41:52.803
it does impact ADA.
941
00:41:52.803 --> 00:41:57.260
What we received from Superintendent Chambers
942
00:41:57.260 --> 00:42:00.570
was a much more extensive response
943
00:42:00.570 --> 00:42:02.120
that highlighted concerns.
944
00:42:02.120 --> 00:42:03.770
And so, there was more information
945
00:42:03.770 --> 00:42:05.360
to take into consideration.
946
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:09.230
That does not mean that was the only one received.
947
00:42:09.230 --> 00:42:12.680
Okay, so, our superintendents need to have
948
00:42:12.680 --> 00:42:15.100
a much more extensive response.
949
00:42:15.100 --> 00:42:17.103
Okay, my next questions.
950
00:42:20.690 --> 00:42:21.773
English learners.
951
00:42:25.050 --> 00:42:28.280
I'm asking these questions because, on your application.
952
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:30.650
And, again, this is numbers that I could be mistaken.
953
00:42:30.650 --> 00:42:32.130
So, please correct me.
954
00:42:32.130 --> 00:42:34.493
Your projection is 25%.
955
00:42:36.420 --> 00:42:37.900
Many of the locations that.
956
00:42:37.900 --> 00:42:39.557
I'm gonna go with the original application.
957
00:42:39.557 --> 00:42:41.320
And not the recent adjustments
958
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:45.113
due to extensive communication with one superintendent.
959
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:50.150
In Austin ISD, there is campuses ranging
960
00:42:50.150 --> 00:42:53.160
from 42% climbing as high as 80%.
961
00:42:53.160 --> 00:42:54.230
Same with Alief.
962
00:42:54.230 --> 00:42:55.967
Same with Houston ISD.
963
00:42:55.967 --> 00:42:56.800
So, I'm wondering.
964
00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:00.510
If you have a projection of 25% on your application,
965
00:43:00.510 --> 00:43:03.740
is this inferring to an intended cap
966
00:43:03.740 --> 00:43:05.070
on this particular demographic?
967
00:43:05.070 --> 00:43:07.450
Or is that a mistake on your application?
968
00:43:07.450 --> 00:43:08.283
No, ma'am.
969
00:43:08.283 --> 00:43:09.230
This is.
970
00:43:09.230 --> 00:43:13.343
In the application, I think page seven or nine,
971
00:43:14.200 --> 00:43:16.956
the agency asked us to list
972
00:43:16.956 --> 00:43:20.970
the school district that you were targeting first.
973
00:43:20.970 --> 00:43:22.970
And then two more adjacent school district.
974
00:43:22.970 --> 00:43:26.730
And they ask us to find out what is their demographics.
975
00:43:26.730 --> 00:43:27.570
And, based on that,
976
00:43:27.570 --> 00:43:30.370
what is your anticipated student enrollment?
977
00:43:30.370 --> 00:43:32.450
Or demographics?
978
00:43:32.450 --> 00:43:34.250
What are its African American, Hispanic ratios?
979
00:43:34.250 --> 00:43:37.186
So, what I did in the application.
980
00:43:37.186 --> 00:43:38.570
This is only for Houston.
981
00:43:38.570 --> 00:43:40.090
It doesn't include Austin.
982
00:43:40.090 --> 00:43:42.270
Unfortunately, as I said, there is no place
983
00:43:42.270 --> 00:43:47.260
to put another column here to identify Austin area.
984
00:43:47.260 --> 00:43:49.320
So, these are Houston numbers.
985
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:50.360
Those are anticipated numbers.
986
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:51.193
Not cap numbers.
987
00:43:51.193 --> 00:43:52.740
We cannot cap.
988
00:43:52.740 --> 00:43:55.600
Once the school start, as far as anybody show up,
989
00:43:55.600 --> 00:43:59.260
we may have 90% African American or 10% African American.
990
00:43:59.260 --> 00:44:03.130
Or 90% ELS students or maybe 10%.
991
00:44:03.130 --> 00:44:05.504
So, we don't know until we start
992
00:44:05.504 --> 00:44:07.660
enrollment or application process.
993
00:44:07.660 --> 00:44:10.163
Well, I will tell you that Piney Point in Houston ISD
994
00:44:10.163 --> 00:44:12.031
is 77% English learner enrollment.
995
00:44:12.031 --> 00:44:15.182
So, let's move on to special needs.
996
00:44:15.182 --> 00:44:16.949
May I make a correction?
997
00:44:16.949 --> 00:44:17.782
So, these are ISD numbers.
998
00:44:17.782 --> 00:44:20.950
These are not the campus.
999
00:44:20.950 --> 00:44:22.907
Right, so, my ISD numbers start at 42%
1000
00:44:22.907 --> 00:44:25.417
and climb as high as 80%.
1001
00:44:25.417 --> 00:44:26.790
But your application lists 25%.
1002
00:44:26.790 --> 00:44:28.490
So, quite a bit of variance.
1003
00:44:28.490 --> 00:44:30.720
So, let's go on to special needs.
1004
00:44:30.720 --> 00:44:32.406
Your application projects
1005
00:44:32.406 --> 00:44:35.023
student with special needs enrollment at 7%.
1006
00:44:36.680 --> 00:44:39.320
The Austin middle schools that you reference
1007
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:41.380
in your application are both over 17%.
1008
00:44:41.380 --> 00:44:43.720
While the high school is over 13%.
1009
00:44:43.720 --> 00:44:45.190
And I want to note that,
1010
00:44:45.190 --> 00:44:46.955
while you were CEO of Harmony,
1011
00:44:46.955 --> 00:44:50.320
Harmony was cited by the Civil Rights Office
1012
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:52.049
of the US Department of Education in 2014
1013
00:44:52.049 --> 00:44:55.180
for not serving the proportionate percentage
1014
00:44:55.180 --> 00:44:57.190
of English learners and children with special needs
1015
00:44:57.190 --> 00:45:00.000
compared to schools in close proximity.
1016
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.010
And so, what I'm wondering, then, is,
1017
00:45:03.010 --> 00:45:05.540
rather than saying we'll deal with all of that
1018
00:45:05.540 --> 00:45:07.560
once you hold your lottery
1019
00:45:07.560 --> 00:45:09.680
and we'll see which students enroll,
1020
00:45:09.680 --> 00:45:11.420
I'd like to see a more comprehensive plan
1021
00:45:11.420 --> 00:45:14.430
in your application of exactly how you intend to do this.
1022
00:45:14.430 --> 00:45:16.876
Rather than we'll wait and see.
1023
00:45:16.876 --> 00:45:19.650
You want to explain those disparities
1024
00:45:19.650 --> 00:45:21.470
specifically to Austin?
1025
00:45:21.470 --> 00:45:24.267
So, again, this application doesn't include Austin.
1026
00:45:24.267 --> 00:45:27.443
And, as I mentioned before,
1027
00:45:28.630 --> 00:45:33.130
the percentages, the ratios of ELL, ESL,
1028
00:45:33.130 --> 00:45:35.530
and special ed populations in Austin ISD.
1029
00:45:35.530 --> 00:45:37.120
I have seven schools, as I mentioned,
1030
00:45:37.120 --> 00:45:38.640
in north and south side.
1031
00:45:38.640 --> 00:45:42.930
So, we are ready to take any challenges that we have.
1032
00:45:42.930 --> 00:45:46.470
I mean, if we have student with heavy disability,
1033
00:45:46.470 --> 00:45:47.960
then that's what we need to do.
1034
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:48.999
We have done it.
1035
00:45:48.999 --> 00:45:53.331
So, I assure you that we will have comprehensive plan.
1036
00:45:53.331 --> 00:45:56.480
And I'm happy to provide additional information,
1037
00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:57.313
if you need to.
1038
00:45:57.313 --> 00:45:59.540
But, based on the question in the application,
1039
00:45:59.540 --> 00:46:01.650
we have a limited 100 pages.
1040
00:46:01.650 --> 00:46:05.140
I have 140 pages long response.
1041
00:46:05.140 --> 00:46:06.860
I have to actually eliminate some of those.
1042
00:46:06.860 --> 00:46:08.680
I can write 500 pages.
1043
00:46:08.680 --> 00:46:11.560
But there's a capped number of pages in the application.
1044
00:46:11.560 --> 00:46:13.003
So, that's all that we can put there.
1045
00:46:15.700 --> 00:46:19.410
I want to move on now to diversity and representation.
1046
00:46:19.410 --> 00:46:22.604
There are no Latino or African American board members
1047
00:46:22.604 --> 00:46:25.620
on your board.
1048
00:46:25.620 --> 00:46:27.881
And you're proposing to move into a community
1049
00:46:27.881 --> 00:46:31.023
where 98% of the students are Latino and African American.
1050
00:46:31.970 --> 00:46:35.320
The existing board members, your existing board members,
1051
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:37.930
voted to open a school in a city
1052
00:46:37.930 --> 00:46:40.391
without having any representation from that city.
1053
00:46:40.391 --> 00:46:41.500
And your application.
1054
00:46:41.500 --> 00:46:45.210
And I'm talking about the one that the public has seen.
1055
00:46:45.210 --> 00:46:48.259
Lists only two Austin residents of the 22 individuals
1056
00:46:48.259 --> 00:46:50.870
that you've spoken with.
1057
00:46:50.870 --> 00:46:53.770
And these individuals are in northeast.
1058
00:46:53.770 --> 00:46:56.430
They are not from the northeast Austin community.
1059
00:46:56.430 --> 00:47:00.660
And one of the two individuals is one of your funders.
1060
00:47:00.660 --> 00:47:02.350
Most of your letters of support
1061
00:47:02.350 --> 00:47:04.690
are exclusively from Houston.
1062
00:47:04.690 --> 00:47:08.060
And your community meetings.
1063
00:47:08.060 --> 00:47:10.500
As few as seven people attended one of them.
1064
00:47:10.500 --> 00:47:13.690
And, the second one, only 34 people attended.
1065
00:47:13.690 --> 00:47:14.840
And, in my opinion,
1066
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:18.400
that is very limited community participation.
1067
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:20.610
And, perhaps, it is an illustration
1068
00:47:20.610 --> 00:47:23.310
of very limited community interest.
1069
00:47:23.310 --> 00:47:26.120
In more than 20 years of your leadership at Harmony,
1070
00:47:26.120 --> 00:47:28.130
the 16 top leadership positions
1071
00:47:28.130 --> 00:47:30.250
have always been held by only men
1072
00:47:30.250 --> 00:47:32.990
and only of Turkish national origin.
1073
00:47:32.990 --> 00:47:36.800
The Royal board of directors has no members from Austin.
1074
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:37.700
No Latino.
1075
00:47:37.700 --> 00:47:39.800
No African American members.
1076
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:41.790
Meanwhile, the students, again,
1077
00:47:41.790 --> 00:47:44.610
are 98% Latino and African American.
1078
00:47:44.610 --> 00:47:46.700
So, what is your plan to ensure that
1079
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your board, your leadership, and your staff
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are of representation of the community
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where you are applying to serve?
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Yes, I will refer to my board chair.
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00:47:58.900 --> 00:48:00.500
We've had discussions about
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00:48:00.500 --> 00:48:03.090
expanding the membership on the board.
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00:48:03.090 --> 00:48:07.620
And we're fully aware of trying to add
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00:48:08.970 --> 00:48:13.970
membership from the Austin area that we propose to serve.
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00:48:14.420 --> 00:48:15.970
And also we're taking a look at
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00:48:15.970 --> 00:48:19.616
some of the issues of adding,
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00:48:19.616 --> 00:48:24.616
perhaps, an African American and/or Latino members
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00:48:25.026 --> 00:48:25.980
to the board.
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00:48:25.980 --> 00:48:29.280
So, we've started that process.
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00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:31.143
And it will continue.
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00:48:32.160 --> 00:48:34.160
Okay, I didn't hear anything you said.
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00:48:41.489 --> 00:48:43.637
So, you agree with the statement,
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00:48:43.637 --> 00:48:47.410
but you're in the process of starting to look for others?
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00:48:47.410 --> 00:48:50.900
Yes, we're planning to expand the board.
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00:48:50.900 --> 00:48:55.560
Both with geographical representation in the Austin area
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00:48:55.560 --> 00:48:59.940
and including members of the board
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00:48:59.940 --> 00:49:02.189
that more accurately reflect
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the populations we intend to serve.
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00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:07.490
So, is that something you will be
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00:49:07.490 --> 00:49:09.950
amending on your application?
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00:49:09.950 --> 00:49:12.819
To be reflective of the community?
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00:49:12.819 --> 00:49:16.343
So, ma'am, it's part of our board that will open.
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00:49:16.343 --> 00:49:17.870
That we included in our board application.
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00:49:17.870 --> 00:49:21.410
That we're gonna engage with a national board trainer
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00:49:21.410 --> 00:49:22.810
to train our boards.
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00:49:22.810 --> 00:49:24.782
And to include, basically.
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00:49:24.782 --> 00:49:28.310
I used to be a board certified trainer.
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00:49:28.310 --> 00:49:29.920
And what I look at when I.
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00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:31.453
Basically, we want to make sure that
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there's diversity in gender.
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00:49:34.580 --> 00:49:36.750
Diversity in ethnicity.
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00:49:36.750 --> 00:49:38.620
Diversity in race and profession
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00:49:38.620 --> 00:49:40.270
So, once we.
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Upon approval, we're gonna continue to expand,
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00:49:42.450 --> 00:49:44.770
as my board chair mentioned,
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00:49:44.770 --> 00:49:47.203
include people from Austin area.
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00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:50.221
As well as wherever we serve.
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00:49:50.221 --> 00:49:53.330
But you didn't accomplish that in the last 20 years.
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00:49:53.330 --> 00:49:55.353
You're gonna start that now?
1122
00:49:56.561 --> 00:49:58.280
Thank you for asking.
1123
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:02.940
In my capacity interview,
1124
00:50:02.940 --> 00:50:05.710
I specifically mention, it's in the record,
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00:50:05.710 --> 00:50:07.760
that one of the reason that I stepped down.
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00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:10.400
I have done everything in Harmony Public Schools
1127
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:11.840
to improve every single bit.
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00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:15.460
Starting with 200 kids to 34000.
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00:50:15.460 --> 00:50:16.660
We have really developed.
1130
00:50:16.660 --> 00:50:18.830
Except, unfortunately, my board.
1131
00:50:18.830 --> 00:50:21.530
And I could not introduce term limits.
1132
00:50:21.530 --> 00:50:24.177
So, that's one of the reason I stepped down from that.
1133
00:50:24.177 --> 00:50:26.000
Thank you for mentioning that.
1134
00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:27.816
Thank you for that clarification.
1135
00:50:27.816 --> 00:50:29.750
And I will.
1136
00:50:29.750 --> 00:50:33.424
If you're successful today, I'll help you do that.
1137
00:50:33.424 --> 00:50:36.510
So, let's move on to conflict of interest.
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00:50:36.510 --> 00:50:39.140
According to the Unity School Service website,
1139
00:50:39.140 --> 00:50:41.160
you created a charter management organization
1140
00:50:41.160 --> 00:50:42.750
called Unity School Services that
1141
00:50:42.750 --> 00:50:44.630
will operate two charters in Alabama
1142
00:50:44.630 --> 00:50:46.880
while providing services to facilities
1143
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:48.805
in Arkansas, Florida, Louisiana,
1144
00:50:48.805 --> 00:50:50.810
Georgia, Maryland, Missouri, New York,
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00:50:50.810 --> 00:50:52.610
New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina,
1146
00:50:52.610 --> 00:50:55.120
South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas,
1147
00:50:55.120 --> 00:50:58.310
Washington, DC, Mexico, Qatar, and Hong Kong.
1148
00:50:58.310 --> 00:50:59.143
You also sit on
1149
00:50:59.143 --> 00:51:00.500
the Board of International Leadership
1150
00:51:00.500 --> 00:51:02.260
of Texas Charter Schools.
1151
00:51:02.260 --> 00:51:04.520
Will you please tell us how many charters
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00:51:04.520 --> 00:51:06.820
Unity is currently managing
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00:51:06.820 --> 00:51:10.054
or providing services to in each of these locations?
1154
00:51:10.054 --> 00:51:12.734
Because I'm wondering which conflicts of interest you have
1155
00:51:12.734 --> 00:51:16.230
with these identified and these concurrent roles
1156
00:51:16.230 --> 00:51:19.270
and how you have time to be the CEO
1157
00:51:19.270 --> 00:51:21.942
of between four and eight charters
1158
00:51:21.942 --> 00:51:23.960
that are on the current application.
1159
00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:25.110
Thank you, ma'am.
1160
00:51:25.973 --> 00:51:27.460
Let me clarify.
1161
00:51:27.460 --> 00:51:31.360
So, Unity School Services is the consulting LLC formed,
1162
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:33.310
as I mentioned in the introduction,
1163
00:51:33.310 --> 00:51:36.860
established in 2017 after I stepped down from Harmony
1164
00:51:36.860 --> 00:51:38.880
to basically pay the bills.
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00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:42.090
And, in the website, it talks about
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00:51:42.090 --> 00:51:45.720
those cities and states which I have, in the past,
1167
00:51:45.720 --> 00:51:48.127
provided guidance, help.
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00:51:48.127 --> 00:51:50.310
There is no school in any one of those places
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00:51:50.310 --> 00:51:51.600
that we actually manage.
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00:51:51.600 --> 00:51:53.490
Except Alabama.
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00:51:53.490 --> 00:51:57.470
And I have mentioned and talked to this agency that
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00:51:57.470 --> 00:51:59.100
I am helping.
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00:51:59.100 --> 00:52:01.270
It's helped by three applications.
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00:52:01.270 --> 00:52:02.980
Both of them are approved.
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00:52:02.980 --> 00:52:06.090
One of them because of the pushback.
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00:52:06.090 --> 00:52:09.070
Again, the school in Alabama is
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00:52:09.070 --> 00:52:10.610
not included with Royal Public Schools.
1178
00:52:10.610 --> 00:52:11.530
It's a separate entity.
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00:52:11.530 --> 00:52:13.230
There's a local board formed
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00:52:13.230 --> 00:52:16.400
by a local businessman and parents.
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00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:19.153
Unfortunately, you have heard yesterday.
1182
00:52:19.153 --> 00:52:21.640
Two person showed up from Alabama.
1183
00:52:21.640 --> 00:52:24.100
They were adamantly against.
1184
00:52:24.100 --> 00:52:26.210
Because they worked for the school districts.
1185
00:52:26.210 --> 00:52:27.550
I mean, the same debate.
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00:52:27.550 --> 00:52:31.260
This is the initial charter school in Alabama.
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00:52:31.260 --> 00:52:32.093
They are learning.
1188
00:52:32.093 --> 00:52:33.434
They are going through the process.
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00:52:33.434 --> 00:52:36.900
And there's a pushback from the local community.
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00:52:36.900 --> 00:52:38.380
It has nothing to do with me, really.
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00:52:38.380 --> 00:52:39.600
It's not my school.
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00:52:39.600 --> 00:52:41.938
I just provide guidance, help.
1193
00:52:41.938 --> 00:52:45.356
But, two weeks ago, last week,
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00:52:45.356 --> 00:52:49.591
the school receive a one year extension
1195
00:52:49.591 --> 00:52:50.890
because they couldn't get
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00:52:50.890 --> 00:52:53.790
the facility permit in place on time.
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00:52:53.790 --> 00:52:58.440
And so, other location that I mention,
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00:52:58.440 --> 00:52:59.940
I provide counseling.
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00:52:59.940 --> 00:53:01.890
And I was aboard member at
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00:53:01.890 --> 00:53:03.360
the International Leadership of Texas,
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00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:05.870
which is one of the fastest growing charter school
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00:53:05.870 --> 00:53:06.960
in Dallas area.
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00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:10.054
And I'm a volunteer there.
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00:53:10.054 --> 00:53:11.163
And so, you don't believe that
1205
00:53:11.163 --> 00:53:13.210
there's any conflict of interest
1206
00:53:13.210 --> 00:53:15.429
with all of these concurrent roles?
1207
00:53:15.429 --> 00:53:19.920
You know, again, Royal Public School is,
1208
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:22.780
basically, my, along with my board.
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00:53:22.780 --> 00:53:23.950
Is our product.
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00:53:23.950 --> 00:53:27.130
My oath to Texas.
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00:53:27.130 --> 00:53:27.963
This is my place.
1212
00:53:27.963 --> 00:53:28.930
This is my organization.
1213
00:53:28.930 --> 00:53:31.170
This is our new initiative.
1214
00:53:31.170 --> 00:53:34.210
So, upon approval, basically my focus is going to be
1215
00:53:34.210 --> 00:53:36.218
Royal Public Schools.
1216
00:53:36.218 --> 00:53:37.953
So, is that a no?
1217
00:53:37.953 --> 00:53:38.786
Yes, ma'am.
1218
00:53:38.786 --> 00:53:39.860
Okay, so, you believe that
1219
00:53:39.860 --> 00:53:42.000
you'll have plenty of time to be the full time CEO
1220
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:44.711
of between four and eight charters on the Royal application
1221
00:53:44.711 --> 00:53:48.540
plus everything that you just listed, correct?
1222
00:53:48.540 --> 00:53:49.930
Ma'am, I am not.
1223
00:53:49.930 --> 00:53:52.206
As I said, I don't have any schools in any other place.
1224
00:53:52.206 --> 00:53:54.158
And Royal is the only one.
1225
00:53:54.158 --> 00:53:59.023
I mentioned that I run 54 schools as of 2017.
1226
00:54:02.620 --> 00:54:05.940
And I had 4000 employees at Harmony Public Schools.
1227
00:54:05.940 --> 00:54:09.400
So, for me to run four or eight schools,
1228
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:12.250
it's not a difficult task.
1229
00:54:12.250 --> 00:54:13.083
I'm sorry.
1230
00:54:13.083 --> 00:54:14.888
It's not a what?
It's not a difficult task.
1231
00:54:14.888 --> 00:54:17.780
Okay, so, I would like to move now
1232
00:54:17.780 --> 00:54:20.883
to students with disciplinary histories or records.
1233
00:54:25.090 --> 00:54:26.470
Again, correct me if I'm wrong
1234
00:54:26.470 --> 00:54:28.870
or if this has also been amended.
1235
00:54:28.870 --> 00:54:31.227
Your Royal student application states
1236
00:54:31.227 --> 00:54:33.500
the school shall exclude from enrollment
1237
00:54:33.500 --> 00:54:36.430
those students who have a documented history
1238
00:54:36.430 --> 00:54:38.870
of a criminal offense, a juvenile court adjudication,
1239
00:54:38.870 --> 00:54:40.130
or other discipline problems
1240
00:54:40.130 --> 00:54:43.690
under subchapter A, chapter 37
1241
00:54:43.690 --> 00:54:46.230
of the Education Code page 232.
1242
00:54:46.230 --> 00:54:48.690
However, on your student application,
1243
00:54:48.690 --> 00:54:51.990
it does say that disciplinary history is required.
1244
00:54:51.990 --> 00:54:53.990
And I believe, just a few minutes ago,
1245
00:54:53.990 --> 00:54:57.650
you said that is something you're not doing.
1246
00:54:57.650 --> 00:54:58.483
No, ma'am, we are not doing.
1247
00:54:58.483 --> 00:55:01.370
I don't know which application you're referring.
1248
00:55:01.370 --> 00:55:02.423
But we don't.
1249
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:04.800
I said we were gonna exclude
1250
00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:09.240
if the children had disciplinary, criminal history.
1251
00:55:09.240 --> 00:55:11.760
It's part of our charter application requirement.
1252
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:13.170
I said yes.
1253
00:55:13.170 --> 00:55:16.730
But we have never ask anybody, in my history of 19 years,
1254
00:55:16.730 --> 00:55:18.380
if they had any records.
1255
00:55:18.380 --> 00:55:20.130
Let's differentiate.
1256
00:55:20.130 --> 00:55:23.290
Disciplinary issue's different from criminal history.
1257
00:55:23.290 --> 00:55:26.160
You don't want to have a child in your school,
1258
00:55:26.160 --> 00:55:28.980
in a small school, with a history
1259
00:55:28.980 --> 00:55:30.880
of gun violence, sexual abuse.
1260
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:33.160
You don't want those kids in your school.
1261
00:55:33.160 --> 00:55:34.100
Do you?
1262
00:55:34.100 --> 00:55:34.933
I mean, that's the.
1263
00:55:34.933 --> 00:55:37.240
I will tell you, sir, for more than a decade,
1264
00:55:37.240 --> 00:55:39.730
I taught students in juvenile probation.
1265
00:55:39.730 --> 00:55:43.590
And so, no, I would absolutely teach students
1266
00:55:43.590 --> 00:55:45.780
just like the ones that you're describing
1267
00:55:45.780 --> 00:55:46.713
that you don't want.
1268
00:55:46.713 --> 00:55:49.020
So, I just want to be clear.
1269
00:55:49.020 --> 00:55:51.290
You checked yes.
1270
00:55:51.290 --> 00:55:53.656
That you shall exclude students
1271
00:55:53.656 --> 00:55:58.000
with a documented history of criminal offenses.
1272
00:55:58.000 --> 00:55:59.010
You will exclude them?
1273
00:55:59.010 --> 00:56:00.080
But not discipline issues.
1274
00:56:00.080 --> 00:56:02.140
I differentiated the answer.
1275
00:56:02.140 --> 00:56:03.140
Okay, fair enough.
1276
00:56:06.570 --> 00:56:07.960
So, now I would like to move on
1277
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:10.990
to the social and emotional learning innovation.
1278
00:56:10.990 --> 00:56:14.490
Your application depicts a need for SEL
1279
00:56:14.490 --> 00:56:17.260
in the aforementioned schools' communities.
1280
00:56:17.260 --> 00:56:19.790
And I'm gonna stick with the anywhere between four and eight
1281
00:56:19.790 --> 00:56:24.790
and anywhere between the three listed school ISDs.
1282
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:27.070
Because I don't know that any of us in here
1283
00:56:27.070 --> 00:56:28.190
are clear on where you're going
1284
00:56:28.190 --> 00:56:30.060
or where you're not going.
1285
00:56:30.060 --> 00:56:32.570
Austin ISD offers SEL for
1286
00:56:32.570 --> 00:56:35.004
all of their schools in their district.
1287
00:56:35.004 --> 00:56:36.560
And that program began eight years ago.
1288
00:56:36.560 --> 00:56:37.900
Your application says that
1289
00:56:37.900 --> 00:56:40.080
you intend to blend SEL with STEM.
1290
00:56:40.080 --> 00:56:43.210
But I do not see where you're listing
1291
00:56:43.210 --> 00:56:45.330
how this will be accomplished.
1292
00:56:45.330 --> 00:56:47.060
And so, what I'm wondering is how is
1293
00:56:47.060 --> 00:56:49.780
social and emotional learning innovative in Austin
1294
00:56:49.780 --> 00:56:52.480
if Austin ISD has this at all of its campuses
1295
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:55.383
and has had it at all of its campuses for eight years?
1296
00:56:57.560 --> 00:57:01.760
So, again, I'm very happy that
1297
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:05.780
Austin ISD and many ISDs are offering SEL.
1298
00:57:05.780 --> 00:57:06.780
I have no objection.
1299
00:57:06.780 --> 00:57:08.870
I think this is great.
1300
00:57:08.870 --> 00:57:12.290
But what they are offering is not what I am offering.
1301
00:57:12.290 --> 00:57:15.140
They are not combining STEM and SEL together.
1302
00:57:15.140 --> 00:57:19.100
But, again, as a public charter school,
1303
00:57:19.100 --> 00:57:21.700
we have a lot to learn from school system
1304
00:57:21.700 --> 00:57:24.840
in implementing and doing this successfully.
1305
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:28.389
But there is no public schools that
1306
00:57:28.389 --> 00:57:31.800
has offered the STEM-SEL combination.
1307
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:33.200
It's brand new.
1308
00:57:33.200 --> 00:57:34.850
It's a new idea.
1309
00:57:34.850 --> 00:57:39.850
And, again, what I say, Miss Perez, is.
1310
00:57:40.540 --> 00:57:42.960
I mean, just not SEL.
1311
00:57:42.960 --> 00:57:45.440
Just look at any other subject area.
1312
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:46.273
We teach math.
1313
00:57:46.273 --> 00:57:48.950
I don't want to name ISDs,
1314
00:57:48.950 --> 00:57:50.410
because I get a lot of feed.
1315
00:57:50.410 --> 00:57:53.570
But let's say you're in a large school district.
1316
00:57:53.570 --> 00:57:56.400
Here, Houston, or any other place.
1317
00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:59.100
Every one of us, whether charter school, public school,
1318
00:57:59.100 --> 00:58:02.140
we use same adopted textbook list.
1319
00:58:02.140 --> 00:58:03.460
To use the same textbook.
1320
00:58:03.460 --> 00:58:05.340
Same TEKS curriculum.
1321
00:58:05.340 --> 00:58:07.410
But some of our school within same district.
1322
00:58:07.410 --> 00:58:09.610
If you look at the east side and west side.
1323
00:58:09.610 --> 00:58:11.730
There's total differences.
1324
00:58:11.730 --> 00:58:12.967
Why?
1325
00:58:12.967 --> 00:58:13.800
Within the same school district,
1326
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:14.633
we have three failing.
1327
00:58:15.603 --> 00:58:17.392
I don't want to say failing. Struggling schools.
1328
00:58:17.392 --> 00:58:18.482
As well as successful school
1329
00:58:18.482 --> 00:58:19.474
within the same school district.
1330
00:58:19.474 --> 00:58:21.210
They do the same thing.
1331
00:58:21.210 --> 00:58:22.210
It goes the same.
1332
00:58:22.210 --> 00:58:23.890
It's how you deliver it.
1333
00:58:23.890 --> 00:58:26.570
How innovative you are to really engage students
1334
00:58:26.570 --> 00:58:28.950
in the neighborhood to be successful.
1335
00:58:28.950 --> 00:58:33.950
So, I have no objection for any ISD to offer SEL.
1336
00:58:34.370 --> 00:58:35.880
But it doesn't hurt to have
1337
00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:39.124
additional STEM-SEL combination.
1338
00:58:39.124 --> 00:58:40.790
You're right. It doesn't hurt to have that.
1339
00:58:40.790 --> 00:58:44.080
So, why do you not include in your application
1340
00:58:44.080 --> 00:58:46.320
exactly how you will accomplish that?
1341
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:47.940
Because there's not enough space.
1342
00:58:47.940 --> 00:58:48.940
Again with the space.
1343
00:58:48.940 --> 00:58:50.740
Yes, I have a.
1344
00:58:50.740 --> 00:58:53.340
We went through this in the initial interview.
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00:58:53.340 --> 00:58:54.540
The first interview.
1346
00:58:54.540 --> 00:58:56.960
We have a Royal Public School
1347
00:58:56.960 --> 00:58:58.610
teaching and learning framework.
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00:58:58.610 --> 00:59:00.620
I can sit down and explain two hours.
1349
00:59:00.620 --> 00:59:02.780
I have chief academic officer here with me.
1350
00:59:02.780 --> 00:59:05.860
We can train teachers how to implement this
1351
00:59:05.860 --> 00:59:07.073
in every subject area.
1352
00:59:08.260 --> 00:59:11.034
So, we did a session for that.
1353
00:59:11.034 --> 00:59:13.300
Okay, so, since you brought up
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00:59:13.300 --> 00:59:15.683
teachers teaching a variety of subjects,
1355
00:59:17.200 --> 00:59:18.390
And I'm gonna assume this.
1356
00:59:18.390 --> 00:59:20.513
But please correct me if I'm wrong again.
1357
00:59:21.520 --> 00:59:24.330
You do not have any ESBET credentials yourself?
1358
00:59:24.330 --> 00:59:25.243
No, ma'am.
1359
00:59:27.160 --> 00:59:30.590
Basically, when I started in 2000, my first charter,
1360
00:59:30.590 --> 00:59:32.640
I was teaching at university.
1361
00:59:32.640 --> 00:59:35.861
And I started with public schools as a foundation.
1362
00:59:35.861 --> 00:59:38.280
And five of us.
1363
00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:39.630
We had five board members.
1364
00:59:39.630 --> 00:59:43.450
And I pulled a short stick and became the principal.
1365
00:59:43.450 --> 00:59:44.760
I have no principal experience.
1366
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:46.883
No principal certification in my life.
1367
00:59:46.883 --> 00:59:50.640
I've never been as a certified teacher
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00:59:50.640 --> 00:59:52.660
in schools in the United States.
1369
00:59:52.660 --> 00:59:57.520
But, with hard work, dedication, we pulled off.
1370
00:59:57.520 --> 01:00:00.580
From 200 students, we reached 35000.
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01:00:00.580 --> 01:00:03.540
I mean, I believe in credential and experience.
1372
01:00:03.540 --> 01:00:05.560
But also we give a lot of opportunities
1373
01:00:05.560 --> 01:00:07.933
to non-certified teachers who are qualified.
1374
01:00:10.218 --> 01:00:12.470
Basically highly qualified who can come and teach.
1375
01:00:12.470 --> 01:00:15.293
That's kind of beauty of charter school system.
1376
01:00:15.293 --> 01:00:19.410
That we can bring a lot of new talents into education.
1377
01:00:19.410 --> 01:00:21.040
I was one of them.
1378
01:00:21.040 --> 01:00:24.180
So, just so I'm clear, you said that
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01:00:24.180 --> 01:00:26.950
it's the charter responsibility
1380
01:00:26.950 --> 01:00:31.950
to quantify who's appropriate, qualified to teach,
1381
01:00:32.240 --> 01:00:34.467
but you do believe in ESBET credentials?
1382
01:00:34.467 --> 01:00:36.560
I do believe in ESBET credentials.
1383
01:00:36.560 --> 01:00:38.260
Certification is important.
1384
01:00:38.260 --> 01:00:41.197
But we also have mixed people that come into education
1385
01:00:41.197 --> 01:00:43.020
with highly qualified.
1386
01:00:43.020 --> 01:00:44.040
Maybe they are retired engineers.
1387
01:00:44.040 --> 01:00:45.970
They are retired teachers.
1388
01:00:45.970 --> 01:00:49.040
Or retired engineers or professions
1389
01:00:49.040 --> 01:00:52.926
who have enough number of hours in the subject they teach.
1390
01:00:52.926 --> 01:00:56.420
They are qualified to teach in charter schools.
1391
01:00:56.420 --> 01:00:58.260
And then, eventually, we push them to
1392
01:00:58.260 --> 01:00:59.790
become certified teachers.
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01:00:59.790 --> 01:01:03.040
At Harmony, we almost have 78% certified teachers.
1394
01:01:03.040 --> 01:01:05.897
They come in non-certified but highly qualified.
1395
01:01:05.897 --> 01:01:08.477
And we put them in certification program.
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01:01:08.477 --> 01:01:10.027
And they receive certification.
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01:01:11.100 --> 01:01:11.933
ASBET certification?
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01:01:11.933 --> 01:01:12.766
Yes, ma'am.
1399
01:01:12.766 --> 01:01:13.730
They get higher pay, yes.
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01:01:13.730 --> 01:01:16.340
Okay, and so, there's 78% at Harmony.
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01:01:16.340 --> 01:01:19.383
What is the projected percentage at Royal?
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01:01:19.383 --> 01:01:21.938
The same?
1403
01:01:21.938 --> 01:01:23.190
It could be same or higher.
1404
01:01:23.190 --> 01:01:24.310
It could be the same or higher?
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01:01:24.310 --> 01:01:25.931
So, is that in your application?
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01:01:25.931 --> 01:01:26.878
No, ma'am.
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01:01:26.878 --> 01:01:27.711
It's not in the application.
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01:01:27.711 --> 01:01:28.911
Would you amend it?
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01:01:28.911 --> 01:01:29.744
I don't know.
1410
01:01:29.744 --> 01:01:30.577
If it's required.
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01:01:30.577 --> 01:01:33.340
But, I mean, our goal is to get everybody certified.
1412
01:01:33.340 --> 01:01:34.990
But I cannot promise right now
1413
01:01:34.990 --> 01:01:36.790
that everybody's gonna be certified.
1414
01:01:39.370 --> 01:01:41.530
So, then, let's move on to counselors.
1415
01:01:41.530 --> 01:01:43.775
Miss Perez, could I ask one question?
1416
01:01:43.775 --> 01:01:46.660
In the interest of allowing those
1417
01:01:46.660 --> 01:01:48.500
who have not had an opportunity yet
1418
01:01:48.500 --> 01:01:51.370
to even ask any questions,
1419
01:01:51.370 --> 01:01:54.892
are you at a point where you could maybe
1420
01:01:54.892 --> 01:01:58.790
take a short break and let another person ask a question
1421
01:01:58.790 --> 01:01:59.964
who's not asked any
1422
01:01:59.964 --> 01:02:02.090
and then we can come back to you for a second time?
1423
01:02:02.090 --> 01:02:02.923
Very well.
1424
01:02:02.923 --> 01:02:03.756
Okay, Miss Cargill.
1425
01:02:03.756 --> 01:02:05.070
Would it be proper parliamentary inquiry
1426
01:02:05.070 --> 01:02:06.533
to ask what page she's on?
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01:02:06.533 --> 01:02:08.123
(laughter)
1428
01:02:08.123 --> 01:02:10.770
It might be fair to ask what page we're on.
1429
01:02:10.770 --> 01:02:12.920
I was about to begin page five.
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01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:15.063
Oh, okay, in that case, Miss Cargill.
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01:02:16.750 --> 01:02:20.640
Okay, she covered a couple of my questions.
1432
01:02:20.640 --> 01:02:23.760
But, Soner, during.
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01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:25.160
First of all, thank you for.
1434
01:02:26.880 --> 01:02:28.020
You're doing great.
1435
01:02:28.020 --> 01:02:29.446
So, just hang in there.
1436
01:02:29.446 --> 01:02:30.570
Drink the water.
1437
01:02:30.570 --> 01:02:31.799
Stay hydrated.
1438
01:02:31.799 --> 01:02:34.520
(laughter)
1439
01:02:34.520 --> 01:02:35.980
We need a spotlight.
1440
01:02:35.980 --> 01:02:37.190
A police interrogation.
1441
01:02:37.190 --> 01:02:39.170
But I do want to thank you.
1442
01:02:39.170 --> 01:02:41.280
I've visited several of your schools, as well.
1443
01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:42.113
I tell you.
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01:02:42.113 --> 01:02:43.590
The kids are happy.
1445
01:02:43.590 --> 01:02:44.590
They're well mannered.
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01:02:44.590 --> 01:02:46.670
They're happy to see you.
1447
01:02:46.670 --> 01:02:49.360
There's not a child that goes by, practically,
1448
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:51.160
that doesn't reach out to shake your hand.
1449
01:02:51.160 --> 01:02:53.870
So, you've got a lot of great things going on.
1450
01:02:53.870 --> 01:02:54.900
During the interviews, though,
1451
01:02:54.900 --> 01:02:57.293
you were asked specifically about
1452
01:02:57.293 --> 01:03:00.263
the teachers that you hire.
1453
01:03:03.210 --> 01:03:04.790
I know that there was a lot of publicity
1454
01:03:04.790 --> 01:03:05.830
surrounding the fact that
1455
01:03:05.830 --> 01:03:07.290
a lot of your teachers were from Turkey.
1456
01:03:07.290 --> 01:03:08.450
And you addressed that.
1457
01:03:08.450 --> 01:03:11.160
So, I wanted you to address that now.
1458
01:03:11.160 --> 01:03:12.900
Bring us up to date on that.
1459
01:03:12.900 --> 01:03:14.810
Because I think you took action.
1460
01:03:14.810 --> 01:03:17.900
You listened to the public and whoever else.
1461
01:03:17.900 --> 01:03:19.257
And so.
1462
01:03:19.257 --> 01:03:20.580
So, I mean, yes.
1463
01:03:20.580 --> 01:03:22.583
I'm glad that you asked that question.
1464
01:03:23.540 --> 01:03:28.190
I mean, last 19 years of my life was in the public eye.
1465
01:03:28.190 --> 01:03:29.400
Some of you know.
1466
01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:32.368
And Mister Lawrence Allen mentioned that
1467
01:03:32.368 --> 01:03:37.368
we had a lot of nonsense accusation to our organization
1468
01:03:38.017 --> 01:03:39.470
and to myself personally.
1469
01:03:39.470 --> 01:03:41.900
You have heard some of them yesterday.
1470
01:03:41.900 --> 01:03:42.910
And I'll come to that.
1471
01:03:42.910 --> 01:03:45.700
But, so, when I started my first charter school.
1472
01:03:45.700 --> 01:03:47.520
I mentioned I was a graduate student
1473
01:03:47.520 --> 01:03:49.698
doing my PhD at Texas A&M.
1474
01:03:49.698 --> 01:03:50.531
And, at the same time,
1475
01:03:50.531 --> 01:03:52.450
I was the head of the Turkish Association.
1476
01:03:52.450 --> 01:03:54.657
Yes, and I tell public the many times,
1477
01:03:54.657 --> 01:03:55.990
"Yes, I am from Turkey.
1478
01:03:55.990 --> 01:03:59.870
I came from Turkey in 1990 to help my brother,
1479
01:03:59.870 --> 01:04:02.100
who was a cancer patient at Anderson.
1480
01:04:02.100 --> 01:04:04.070
And, eventually, I ended up at Texas A&M,
1481
01:04:04.070 --> 01:04:06.677
pursued my PhD, and stayed here."
1482
01:04:07.600 --> 01:04:08.560
Became a citizen.
1483
01:04:08.560 --> 01:04:12.530
One of my proudest moment when I became a citizen.
1484
01:04:12.530 --> 01:04:15.240
Along with many other of my colleagues at Harmony.
1485
01:04:15.240 --> 01:04:17.630
But, because, when I was at Texas A&M,
1486
01:04:17.630 --> 01:04:19.910
I was the head of the Turkish Association.
1487
01:04:19.910 --> 01:04:22.200
So, I knew a lot of graduate students.
1488
01:04:22.200 --> 01:04:23.756
It was easy for me.
1489
01:04:23.756 --> 01:04:25.470
Because I am starting a STEM program.
1490
01:04:25.470 --> 01:04:26.880
So, I tapped in that resource.
1491
01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:28.540
I told some of my colleagues
1492
01:04:28.540 --> 01:04:30.460
who were working on master's and PhD.
1493
01:04:30.460 --> 01:04:32.280
I said, "You want a job?
1494
01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:33.884
You want to teach in math and science?
1495
01:04:33.884 --> 01:04:38.884
We'll hire you and provide H1 visa for three years."
1496
01:04:39.093 --> 01:04:39.926
It is public.
1497
01:04:39.926 --> 01:04:41.740
I'm not hiding that fact.
1498
01:04:41.740 --> 01:04:43.130
And so, initial years,
1499
01:04:43.130 --> 01:04:45.100
I relied on a lot of graduate students
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01:04:45.100 --> 01:04:48.030
who were studying either UT, A&M, and Rice University.
1501
01:04:48.030 --> 01:04:49.940
If you look at their resumes, you will see them.
1502
01:04:49.940 --> 01:04:52.840
They are from Turkey, but they receive degrees
1503
01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:55.270
in one of the prestigious schools in Texas.
1504
01:04:55.270 --> 01:04:59.700
So, eventually, I got a lot of pushback from people.
1505
01:04:59.700 --> 01:05:01.497
At one time, I was interviewed by New York Times.
1506
01:05:01.497 --> 01:05:04.720
Actually, I made headline at New York Times in 2011
1507
01:05:04.720 --> 01:05:06.700
because of these issues.
1508
01:05:06.700 --> 01:05:08.897
And I never forget, actually.
1509
01:05:08.897 --> 01:05:13.897
When reporter came to Harmony in 2011 at the time,
1510
01:05:13.917 --> 01:05:16.550
Rod Paige, who was the former secretary of education,
1511
01:05:16.550 --> 01:05:18.540
was visiting our school.
1512
01:05:18.540 --> 01:05:21.337
And so, New York Times reported for me.
1513
01:05:21.337 --> 01:05:23.610
"There is a lot of people are fired by Houston ISD.
1514
01:05:23.610 --> 01:05:24.720
Why don't you hire them?
1515
01:05:24.720 --> 01:05:27.773
Why do you hire Turkish graduate students here?"
1516
01:05:27.773 --> 01:05:30.960
And I told her, "So, you're telling me that
1517
01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:34.085
I have to hire people who were fired from a school district?
1518
01:05:34.085 --> 01:05:36.940
And those are maybe the worst."
1519
01:05:36.940 --> 01:05:37.840
I don't want to say.
1520
01:05:37.840 --> 01:05:39.240
I mean, why they fire them?
1521
01:05:39.240 --> 01:05:41.150
And why I should hire them?
1522
01:05:41.150 --> 01:05:43.080
If you run a business, you will understand that
1523
01:05:43.080 --> 01:05:44.180
that's not what you do.
1524
01:05:44.180 --> 01:05:47.050
But, so, that actually really told me a lot.
1525
01:05:47.050 --> 01:05:48.630
So, in 2011, we start
1526
01:05:48.630 --> 01:05:51.127
our Grow Your Own Teacher Program at Harmony.
1527
01:05:51.127 --> 01:05:54.630
And there is that we are asking our students,
1528
01:05:54.630 --> 01:05:56.230
if they want to be teachers,
1529
01:05:56.230 --> 01:05:57.890
especially in math and science.
1530
01:05:57.890 --> 01:06:00.350
We told them that we were gonna hire you as a teacher.
1531
01:06:00.350 --> 01:06:04.260
Right now, of the $20000 on scholarship, four years,
1532
01:06:04.260 --> 01:06:06.200
for those students who are Harmony students.
1533
01:06:06.200 --> 01:06:07.160
Finish Harmony.
1534
01:06:07.160 --> 01:06:08.560
If they want to study math and science,
1535
01:06:08.560 --> 01:06:10.050
we pay their tuition.
1536
01:06:10.050 --> 01:06:11.360
But the catch is they have to come back
1537
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:12.970
and teach for us for two years.
1538
01:06:12.970 --> 01:06:14.827
That really helped us to improve
1539
01:06:14.827 --> 01:06:17.220
our diversity in our schools.
1540
01:06:17.220 --> 01:06:21.440
Also, at the time of this complaining, 2011,
1541
01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:24.750
we had about 18% H1 visa holders.
1542
01:06:24.750 --> 01:06:28.950
Right now, the number is less than, I would say, 2%.
1543
01:06:28.950 --> 01:06:30.000
Or 2.2%.
1544
01:06:30.930 --> 01:06:33.351
So, we are really taking an important step.
1545
01:06:33.351 --> 01:06:34.280
I say we.
1546
01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:37.880
I feel, still, Harmony is part of me.
1547
01:06:37.880 --> 01:06:40.895
So, lesson learned from those experiences.
1548
01:06:40.895 --> 01:06:42.410
And listen people.
1549
01:06:42.410 --> 01:06:46.800
And, right now, I would say we have maybe 100 students
1550
01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:50.070
who went to Harmony system and became teachers.
1551
01:06:50.070 --> 01:06:52.880
Also, there are 230 students in pipeline
1552
01:06:52.880 --> 01:06:56.600
to become Harmony teachers within next few years.
1553
01:06:56.600 --> 01:07:01.600
So, that's the thing that I've been dealing with.
1554
01:07:04.430 --> 01:07:05.263
Very good job.
1555
01:07:05.263 --> 01:07:07.610
Miss Hardy, you're up for the second time.
1556
01:07:07.610 --> 01:07:11.083
And then Doctor Ellis and Miss Perez chapter two.
1557
01:07:14.033 --> 01:07:15.250
I actually have two questions.
1558
01:07:15.250 --> 01:07:16.350
But they're real quick.
1559
01:07:16.350 --> 01:07:17.183
One question.
1560
01:07:17.183 --> 01:07:18.016
One comment.
1561
01:07:18.016 --> 01:07:20.300
One question is have you considered
1562
01:07:20.300 --> 01:07:22.333
moving your school to La Marque?
1563
01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:24.930
La Marque?
1564
01:07:24.930 --> 01:07:27.460
Yeah, they had to close the whole school district
1565
01:07:27.460 --> 01:07:29.220
and take it over and all that stuff.
1566
01:07:29.220 --> 01:07:31.330
Seems like they're desperately in need.
1567
01:07:31.330 --> 01:07:33.618
And you seem like you have mobility.
1568
01:07:33.618 --> 01:07:37.070
I just think that would be a great consideration.
1569
01:07:37.070 --> 01:07:38.853
Miss Hardy, I think people who know me here.
1570
01:07:38.853 --> 01:07:40.153
They they know me.
1571
01:07:42.490 --> 01:07:47.490
In 2004 or '05, when I started replicating schools,
1572
01:07:48.650 --> 01:07:50.260
multiple schools, I had to come
1573
01:07:50.260 --> 01:07:51.680
before this board multiple times.
1574
01:07:51.680 --> 01:07:53.440
Some of you remember.
1575
01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:58.440
And, whether it's a Republican or Democrat, I was asked.
1576
01:07:58.660 --> 01:08:00.460
I remember Mister Nunez from El Paso.
1577
01:08:00.460 --> 01:08:02.660
He said, "Why don't you open a school in El Paso?"
1578
01:08:02.660 --> 01:08:04.922
I said, "I don't know anybody in El Paso."
1579
01:08:04.922 --> 01:08:07.200
He said, "You know me now.
1580
01:08:07.200 --> 01:08:08.033
Come to El Paso.
1581
01:08:08.033 --> 01:08:09.310
So, you'll put a school in El Paso?"
1582
01:08:09.310 --> 01:08:11.677
Same thing in Odessa.
1583
01:08:11.677 --> 01:08:13.618
And other places.
1584
01:08:13.618 --> 01:08:18.618
I mean, right now, our proposed plan is to
1585
01:08:19.110 --> 01:08:20.980
stay in a larger area.
1586
01:08:20.980 --> 01:08:23.210
I don't want. If I go to La Marque,
1587
01:08:23.210 --> 01:08:25.520
I understand there is no more close by.
1588
01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:28.210
We're gonna total effect the school district.
1589
01:08:28.210 --> 01:08:29.043
And I will probably see
1590
01:08:29.043 --> 01:08:32.620
the same opposition from local ISD folks.
1591
01:08:32.620 --> 01:08:34.003
No, they don't exist.
1592
01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:37.503
They ceased to exist in La Marque.
1593
01:08:38.590 --> 01:08:41.800
Okay, this is something else that we talked about.
1594
01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:43.980
The Race to the Top money.
1595
01:08:43.980 --> 01:08:44.900
I looked this up.
1596
01:08:44.900 --> 01:08:47.570
And it said the federal Department of Education
1597
01:08:47.570 --> 01:08:49.420
used executive earmarks to create
1598
01:08:49.420 --> 01:08:51.320
the fund Race to the Top Program.
1599
01:08:51.320 --> 01:08:52.830
A federal grant competition that
1600
01:08:52.830 --> 01:08:56.525
invited the states and various people to apply
1601
01:08:56.525 --> 01:09:01.030
in the department's competition scheme.
1602
01:09:01.030 --> 01:09:02.280
While this federal government
1603
01:09:02.280 --> 01:09:05.628
could not get past the Common Core,
1604
01:09:05.628 --> 01:09:09.770
by offering the money to Race to the Top,
1605
01:09:09.770 --> 01:09:14.770
you had to commit to adopting Common Core standards.
1606
01:09:15.140 --> 01:09:19.327
Race to the Top effect on push for Common Core circulation
1607
01:09:19.327 --> 01:09:22.762
and working set education standards before
1608
01:09:22.762 --> 01:09:27.480
that had to be set in order to get the money
1609
01:09:27.480 --> 01:09:29.580
for Race to the Top.
1610
01:09:29.580 --> 01:09:31.630
The pros and cons of that was one of the problem.
1611
01:09:31.630 --> 01:09:35.000
I just wanted to say that's why I was under the impression
1612
01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:38.840
that Race to the Top was connected to Common Core.
1613
01:09:38.840 --> 01:09:40.380
You had to be teaching Common Core.
1614
01:09:40.380 --> 01:09:42.000
Yes, ma'am, in the website, they say that.
1615
01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:43.300
But, remember, Common Core.
1616
01:09:43.300 --> 01:09:45.945
I mean, our teaching grant was received by
1617
01:09:45.945 --> 01:09:50.945
IDEA, Houston ISD, Harmony, and maybe one other school.
1618
01:09:51.170 --> 01:09:55.453
We never use that word or that program at all.
1619
01:09:55.453 --> 01:09:56.450
I mean, it was a TEKS-based.
1620
01:09:56.450 --> 01:09:58.650
It's impossible for Houston ISD to use Common Core.
1621
01:09:58.650 --> 01:10:01.015
I mean, and I said I.
1622
01:10:01.015 --> 01:10:01.900
I don't know that anything's
1623
01:10:01.900 --> 01:10:03.353
impossible for Houston ISD.
1624
01:10:06.580 --> 01:10:07.413
That's it.
1625
01:10:07.413 --> 01:10:08.246
They wouldn't, because they use
1626
01:10:08.246 --> 01:10:11.170
most of their funding from state. So, we're a TEKS school.
1627
01:10:11.170 --> 01:10:13.330
So, Mister Cortez actually has not spoken
1628
01:10:13.330 --> 01:10:14.823
for the first time in this.
1629
01:10:16.030 --> 01:10:17.530
Soner, it's good to see you.
1630
01:10:18.380 --> 01:10:23.380
And, you know, let me start by congratulating you
1631
01:10:24.660 --> 01:10:25.883
for making it this far.
1632
01:10:28.340 --> 01:10:32.860
Obviously, as you've heard from the capacity hearings
1633
01:10:32.860 --> 01:10:35.510
and what's going on yesterday, what's going on today,
1634
01:10:38.420 --> 01:10:41.040
of all the applicants that have come up,
1635
01:10:41.040 --> 01:10:43.120
I continue to have the same concern.
1636
01:10:43.120 --> 01:10:46.620
And I have been into many of your charter schools.
1637
01:10:46.620 --> 01:10:48.770
Some of the Harmony campuses.
1638
01:10:48.770 --> 01:10:51.161
Some of them with you.
1639
01:10:51.161 --> 01:10:53.620
And some of them back home.
1640
01:10:53.620 --> 01:10:56.963
They exist in my hometown of Brownsville.
1641
01:10:59.950 --> 01:11:04.950
My concern, outside of some of the things that
1642
01:11:06.046 --> 01:11:08.420
you're being asked today,
1643
01:11:08.420 --> 01:11:09.990
is the same concern that I shared with
1644
01:11:09.990 --> 01:11:14.150
every other charter that's coming up before us.
1645
01:11:14.150 --> 01:11:16.033
The commissioner of education,
1646
01:11:18.460 --> 01:11:21.940
between the three month period of charter amendments,
1647
01:11:21.940 --> 01:11:26.940
has taken action from the end of March through June 12.
1648
01:11:27.230 --> 01:11:30.140
I guess two days ago.
1649
01:11:30.140 --> 01:11:31.830
And, during that timeframe,
1650
01:11:31.830 --> 01:11:36.810
has awarded 27558 additional seats
1651
01:11:36.810 --> 01:11:40.580
to be created in Texas in our local charter schools.
1652
01:11:40.580 --> 01:11:44.640
He's approved or allowed the expansion
1653
01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:48.448
of over three dozen new campus sites
1654
01:11:48.448 --> 01:11:51.733
within the same three month period.
1655
01:11:53.150 --> 01:11:56.780
And, as I've been listening to some of the testimony
1656
01:11:56.780 --> 01:11:57.613
and some of the people
1657
01:11:57.613 --> 01:12:00.660
and the surrounding and affected communities,
1658
01:12:00.660 --> 01:12:03.647
I have a very difficult time supporting
1659
01:12:07.350 --> 01:12:10.223
the creation of any new charters.
1660
01:12:14.523 --> 01:12:18.553
And so, it's just one of those situations for me where,
1661
01:12:21.610 --> 01:12:25.220
knowing that we have this 10 year budget
1662
01:12:25.220 --> 01:12:27.660
that they gave us that says
1663
01:12:27.660 --> 01:12:31.420
it's gonna be about $350 million over a decade
1664
01:12:31.420 --> 01:12:32.593
that's taken out of.
1665
01:12:34.730 --> 01:12:38.693
Reallocated, I guess, is what the conversation was before.
1666
01:12:40.890 --> 01:12:42.995
It just seems very difficult for me
1667
01:12:42.995 --> 01:12:46.682
to wrap my head around supporting
1668
01:12:46.682 --> 01:12:50.240
an additional charter being created in Texas.
1669
01:12:50.240 --> 01:12:53.506
I will tell you what I have told everybody else.
1670
01:12:53.506 --> 01:12:56.900
This round, and in previous rounds.
1671
01:12:56.900 --> 01:13:01.750
As I've gone through this process for several years now.
1672
01:13:01.750 --> 01:13:03.583
And I tell them the same thing.
1673
01:13:05.102 --> 01:13:09.080
My position on this is I can't support it.
1674
01:13:09.080 --> 01:13:11.050
I can't support the creation of a new charter.
1675
01:13:11.050 --> 01:13:12.390
But, if, for some reason,
1676
01:13:12.390 --> 01:13:14.470
you make it to the end of this process,
1677
01:13:14.470 --> 01:13:16.984
the minute you have Texas children in your schools,
1678
01:13:16.984 --> 01:13:19.840
my role has then changed.
1679
01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:23.520
And I have no other alternative
1680
01:13:24.940 --> 01:13:29.940
than to be part of a team of 15 that,
1681
01:13:30.470 --> 01:13:31.620
when we create policy,
1682
01:13:31.620 --> 01:13:35.230
we create policy that continues to
1683
01:13:35.230 --> 01:13:38.220
support and nourish thriving education
1684
01:13:38.220 --> 01:13:40.570
for the over 5.4 million kids.
1685
01:13:40.570 --> 01:13:43.310
But, today, I'm just not inclined to
1686
01:13:43.310 --> 01:13:46.690
be able to support the expansion of that charter.
1687
01:13:46.690 --> 01:13:49.540
But I do want to congratulate you for making it this far.
1688
01:13:55.490 --> 01:13:57.264
I really appreciate your candid comments
1689
01:13:57.264 --> 01:13:59.170
throughout this process.
1690
01:13:59.170 --> 01:14:00.003
I appreciate that.
1691
01:14:00.003 --> 01:14:02.030
I know you are a supporter of charter school,
1692
01:14:02.030 --> 01:14:04.050
because you've been in many charter schools,
1693
01:14:04.050 --> 01:14:05.480
including Harmony.
1694
01:14:05.480 --> 01:14:07.830
So, I have great respect for that decision.
1695
01:14:07.830 --> 01:14:08.943
So, I mean.
1696
01:14:10.160 --> 01:14:12.250
And I would just close with this.
1697
01:14:12.250 --> 01:14:15.637
I support every student in Texas public schools.
1698
01:14:15.637 --> 01:14:18.650
But we have an obligation today to decide
1699
01:14:18.650 --> 01:14:21.320
whether these five go forward.
1700
01:14:21.320 --> 01:14:23.860
And you've seen, as you've been sitting out there,
1701
01:14:23.860 --> 01:14:25.610
how I have voted on the previous ones.
1702
01:14:25.610 --> 01:14:26.720
And my vote won't change
1703
01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:29.430
between this one and the one after you.
1704
01:14:29.430 --> 01:14:32.440
But what I have told them I'm gonna tell you.
1705
01:14:32.440 --> 01:14:37.300
If you're authorized, once you move forward, that changes.
1706
01:14:37.300 --> 01:14:38.133
But.
1707
01:14:43.570 --> 01:14:46.940
Right now, this is kind of the time for questions.
1708
01:14:46.940 --> 01:14:48.070
Well, I just wanted to make a statement,
1709
01:14:48.070 --> 01:14:50.170
'cause I already know what I'm doing, mister chair.
1710
01:14:50.170 --> 01:14:53.303
And I just want to put that out there, because.
1711
01:14:53.303 --> 01:14:54.280
I know I'm going to make the same statement
1712
01:14:54.280 --> 01:14:55.920
to the next group that comes up, as well.
1713
01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:57.190
As I have to the past groups.
1714
01:14:57.190 --> 01:14:59.690
Miss Little has not spoken yet.
1715
01:14:59.690 --> 01:15:02.490
Mister chair, I'd like to call for a vote.
1716
01:15:02.490 --> 01:15:05.340
Okay, previous question, call for the question.
1717
01:15:05.340 --> 01:15:06.240
Is there a second?
1718
01:15:07.430 --> 01:15:09.450
Okay, it's been made and seconded that
1719
01:15:09.450 --> 01:15:11.540
we call for the vote.
1720
01:15:11.540 --> 01:15:13.240
Previous question.
1721
01:15:13.240 --> 01:15:15.417
That is debatable.
1722
01:15:15.417 --> 01:15:16.250
Not debatable.
1723
01:15:16.250 --> 01:15:17.133
Excuse me.
1724
01:15:17.133 --> 01:15:17.966
Not debatable.
1725
01:15:17.966 --> 01:15:18.799
Not amendable.
1726
01:15:18.799 --> 01:15:20.220
It takes a 2/3 vote.
1727
01:15:20.220 --> 01:15:22.390
So, if you're in favor of
1728
01:15:23.670 --> 01:15:26.120
cutting off discussion at this point
1729
01:15:26.120 --> 01:15:28.360
and proceeding to a vote,
1730
01:15:28.360 --> 01:15:30.670
then you would vote in favor of this motion.
1731
01:15:30.670 --> 01:15:32.535
If not, then vote the other way.
1732
01:15:32.535 --> 01:15:33.840
It takes a 2/3 vote.
1733
01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:35.320
So, all in favor.
1734
01:15:35.320 --> 01:15:36.270
I'm sorry.
1735
01:15:36.270 --> 01:15:37.680
I was just gonna say a show of hands.
1736
01:15:37.680 --> 01:15:39.132
Oh, yeah, I was gonna say.
1737
01:15:39.132 --> 01:15:39.965
2/3 vote.
1738
01:15:39.965 --> 01:15:44.230
All in favor of halting discussion and moving to a vote,
1739
01:15:44.230 --> 01:15:46.380
signify by raising your right hand, please.
1740
01:15:48.748 --> 01:15:50.720
I'm only counting the right hands.
1741
01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:52.750
One, two, three, four, five, six,
1742
01:15:52.750 --> 01:15:57.210
seven, right, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13.
1743
01:15:57.210 --> 01:15:58.043
Oh, sorry.
1744
01:15:58.043 --> 01:16:00.400
Motion carries.
1745
01:16:00.400 --> 01:16:04.370
Thank you, gentlemen, for your time and your testimony.
1746
01:16:04.370 --> 01:16:06.510
We'll now proceed to a vote.
1747
01:16:06.510 --> 01:16:11.180
The motion currently before us is to veto
1748
01:16:11.180 --> 01:16:16.180
the Royal Public Schools Austin slash Houston.
1749
01:16:17.100 --> 01:16:19.260
So, if you're in favor of vetoing,
1750
01:16:19.260 --> 01:16:20.620
obviously, you vote in favor of this.
1751
01:16:20.620 --> 01:16:24.050
If you're opposed to vetoing, you vote no.
1752
01:16:24.050 --> 01:16:25.730
Roll call vote again, I'm assuming.
1753
01:16:25.730 --> 01:16:27.930
I think that's the standing order right now.
1754
01:16:35.038 --> 01:16:37.705
Okay, well, Mister Mercer, okay.
1755
01:16:43.160 --> 01:16:44.990
Well, we're pretty much gonna have to vote
1756
01:16:44.990 --> 01:16:46.640
with who we have here.
1757
01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:48.520
'Cause the vote's been called.
1758
01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:51.113
So, okay, so, we'll proceed with the roll call.
1759
01:16:55.780 --> 01:16:56.773
Miss Perez.
1760
01:16:58.700 --> 01:16:59.587
Okay, tell me.
1761
01:16:59.587 --> 01:17:00.893
I vote no for.
1762
01:17:01.940 --> 01:17:03.741
Vote yes if you want to veto.
1763
01:17:03.741 --> 01:17:05.540
Yes.
1764
01:17:05.540 --> 01:17:06.653
Mister Cortez.
1765
01:17:08.250 --> 01:17:09.180
Miss Perez-Diaz.
1766
01:17:09.180 --> 01:17:10.800
Yes.
1767
01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:12.120
Mister Allen.
1768
01:17:12.120 --> 01:17:13.620
No.
1769
01:17:13.620 --> 01:17:14.720
Mister Mercer.
1770
01:17:15.590 --> 01:17:17.426
Doctor Robinson.
1771
01:17:17.426 --> 01:17:18.426
No.
1772
01:17:20.270 --> 01:17:21.320
Mrs. Cargill.
1773
01:17:23.483 --> 01:17:25.322
Yes for action.
1774
01:17:25.322 --> 01:17:27.170
To veto.
1775
01:17:27.170 --> 01:17:28.053
To veto.
1776
01:17:28.053 --> 01:17:29.636
Oh, no.
1777
01:17:35.480 --> 01:17:37.430
Was that your no, Doctor Ellis?
1778
01:17:38.470 --> 01:17:39.920
Okay, so, now it's your turn.
1779
01:17:41.680 --> 01:17:42.623
Mister Maynard.
1780
01:17:44.070 --> 01:17:44.903
Miss Hardy.
1781
01:17:44.903 --> 01:17:45.736
Yes.
1782
01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:51.353
I'm sorry, Miss Hardy, did you say.
1783
01:17:52.980 --> 01:17:54.130
Mrs. Little.
1784
01:17:54.130 --> 01:17:54.963
Yes.
1785
01:17:55.800 --> 01:17:56.633
Miss Davis.
1786
01:17:56.633 --> 01:17:57.466
Yes.
1787
01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:00.527
Mrs. Melton-Malone.
1788
01:18:00.527 --> 01:18:01.604
Yes.
1789
01:18:01.604 --> 01:18:02.459
Mister Rowley.
1790
01:18:02.459 --> 01:18:03.292
Yes.
1791
01:18:06.187 --> 01:18:09.187
So, I have eight yeses and five nos.
1792
01:18:11.170 --> 01:18:12.570
Yes, that's correct.
1793
01:18:13.450 --> 01:18:14.900
And two absent.
1794
01:18:14.900 --> 01:18:16.760
Okay, so, eight yeses and five nos.
1795
01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:20.353
So, the motion to veto passed.
1796
01:18:22.660 --> 01:18:25.513
That was a motion to veto passed.
1797
01:18:28.690 --> 01:18:29.523
Excuse me.
1798
01:18:31.220 --> 01:18:35.570
No charter awarded by an eight to five vote.
1799
01:18:36.604 --> 01:18:38.830
Okay, so, the next item.
1800
01:18:38.830 --> 01:18:40.363
The next applicant, please.
1801
01:18:47.010 --> 01:18:51.890
Final applicant of the day is Houston Classical.
1802
01:18:51.890 --> 01:18:55.030
Whose proposed superintendent, Davis Salazar,
1803
01:18:55.030 --> 01:18:57.150
has a track record of launching and leading
1804
01:18:57.150 --> 01:18:58.690
a successful school that serves
1805
01:18:58.690 --> 01:19:02.370
special population students particularly well.
1806
01:19:02.370 --> 01:19:05.340
On a personal note, last legislative session,
1807
01:19:05.340 --> 01:19:07.959
when our legislatures were looking to
1808
01:19:07.959 --> 01:19:12.286
approve some state law that would allow for
1809
01:19:12.286 --> 01:19:15.510
charter schools to serve special populations,
1810
01:19:15.510 --> 01:19:19.500
I actually was put in touch with Mister Salazar,
1811
01:19:19.500 --> 01:19:21.810
who runs a successful model.
1812
01:19:21.810 --> 01:19:23.480
Their proposed school model will bring
1813
01:19:23.480 --> 01:19:26.690
the great books to K through eight student population
1814
01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:29.210
in the Alief area.
1815
01:19:29.210 --> 01:19:32.760
Here, today, the proposed superintendent Davis Salazar
1816
01:19:32.760 --> 01:19:34.830
and board member Chris Smith
1817
01:19:34.830 --> 01:19:36.370
will present for five minutes
1818
01:19:36.370 --> 01:19:39.493
and be available for questions and answers.
1819
01:19:40.390 --> 01:19:43.210
Okay, and so, again, it's Mister Salazar
1820
01:19:44.180 --> 01:19:45.920
and Mister Chrispin.
1821
01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:46.950
Chris Smith.
1822
01:19:46.950 --> 01:19:48.503
Chris Smith.
1823
01:19:48.503 --> 01:19:49.830
Oh, Mister Smith, okay.
1824
01:19:49.830 --> 01:19:51.263
There you go.
1825
01:19:52.240 --> 01:19:53.270
Well, good morning.
1826
01:19:53.270 --> 01:19:55.334
Good afternoon, everyone.
1827
01:19:55.334 --> 01:19:58.030
I just want to say that we're very humbled
1828
01:19:58.030 --> 01:19:59.210
to be here today.
1829
01:19:59.210 --> 01:20:02.160
And that it has been a very long process.
1830
01:20:02.160 --> 01:20:04.410
We're humbled at the opportunity of,
1831
01:20:04.410 --> 01:20:07.853
perhaps, being approved and open a successful school.
1832
01:20:09.700 --> 01:20:11.470
We're excited and humbled to speak to you
1833
01:20:11.470 --> 01:20:13.560
about my background a little bit today,
1834
01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:15.460
the need for Houston Classical,
1835
01:20:15.460 --> 01:20:17.220
and how we can plan to address the needs
1836
01:20:17.220 --> 01:20:19.240
through our approach.
1837
01:20:19.240 --> 01:20:20.730
Again, my name is Davis Salazar.
1838
01:20:20.730 --> 01:20:22.270
And I'm the proposed head of school
1839
01:20:22.270 --> 01:20:24.250
of Houston Classical Charter School
1840
01:20:24.250 --> 01:20:25.650
for the families in Houston.
1841
01:20:26.690 --> 01:20:28.730
As an immigrant, we move to this country
1842
01:20:28.730 --> 01:20:30.365
to pursue the American dream.
1843
01:20:30.365 --> 01:20:33.400
My family understands the only way to achieve
1844
01:20:33.400 --> 01:20:35.809
the American dream was through hard work
1845
01:20:35.809 --> 01:20:38.383
and a focus on education.
1846
01:20:39.420 --> 01:20:41.883
I have held to that dream my entire life.
1847
01:20:41.883 --> 01:20:43.973
And I still do today.
1848
01:20:46.060 --> 01:20:48.900
Thus, I became an educator and a leader
1849
01:20:48.900 --> 01:20:51.483
to help others achieve their dreams.
1850
01:20:52.380 --> 01:20:54.590
In my previous role in co-founder
1851
01:20:54.590 --> 01:20:56.002
and head of school of
1852
01:20:56.002 --> 01:20:56.860
The Neighborhood Charter School of Harlem.
1853
01:20:56.860 --> 01:20:59.210
I led the number one independent charter school
1854
01:20:59.210 --> 01:21:01.760
in the English language arts and in mathematics.
1855
01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:04.070
This was done with 30% of my population
1856
01:21:04.070 --> 01:21:05.343
being special education.
1857
01:21:07.170 --> 01:21:08.590
I'd also founded and erected
1858
01:21:08.590 --> 01:21:11.943
a specialized program for students on the autism spectrum.
1859
01:21:13.010 --> 01:21:14.854
The belief that all students can learn
1860
01:21:14.854 --> 01:21:17.260
and have a great education no matter
1861
01:21:17.260 --> 01:21:19.360
their history, language, or their designation
1862
01:21:19.360 --> 01:21:21.840
is embedded into Houston Classical.
1863
01:21:21.840 --> 01:21:23.453
We are an inclusive school.
1864
01:21:24.670 --> 01:21:26.880
Our entire founding team believes that
1865
01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:28.958
all students can achieve.
1866
01:21:28.958 --> 01:21:33.958
As a team, combined, we have over 40 years in education.
1867
01:21:34.120 --> 01:21:35.700
We have a robust local board
1868
01:21:35.700 --> 01:21:38.950
with diverse backgrounds and composition.
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01:21:38.950 --> 01:21:40.950
Additionally, our Houston-based board
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is deeply committed to the education
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and the overall improvement of the community.
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In fact, some of our board members
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were raised in southwest Houston.
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In writing the charter,
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we identify Alief as a community in need.
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Alief does have successful schools.
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And we look forward to learning from their best practices.
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However, it is not enough.
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There's a large subset of the community that is not.
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And I am referencing the 2018 STAAR Assessment.
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In fact, in 2018, the average elementary school in AISD
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averages 33% of students meeting standards in ELA
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and 41% in mathematics.
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One of those schools where 900 students attend
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had 26% of students meet standards in English language arts.
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Additionally, we noted that the subgroups,
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such as ELL students, like myself,
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had an 18% passing rate in the ELA STAAR assessment.
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With the last year, my board and I have spoken
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to over 300 families and community members
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who are excited and expressed their excitement
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of our school and approach.
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Our focus on teaching reading, writing, computing, math
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begins in kindergarten day one.
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We know this is pivotal and foundational.
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In order to meet the urgent need,
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Houston Classical ensures that students
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are learning at an optimal level,
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receive proper supports, and then mold the next generation
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of the American dreamers, like I am.
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We're gonna do this by four components.
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We are a classical school and a charter.
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We're gonna focus on literacy skills and literature.
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In Houston and Alief, in particular,
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there are a high number of scholars
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that are not reading at grade level.
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Thus we aim to remedy that by focusing on literacy
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beginning in kindergarten with read alouds every day
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and whole class novel beginning in third grade.
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Number two, critical thinking.
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We believe in developing students
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to only not read great books,
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but to critically think about themes, ideas,
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and their points of view.
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We strongly believe in teaching scholars how to think,
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as opposed to what to think.
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Number three, oral development and Socratic seminars.
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Research have demonstrated that,
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to ensure ELL scholars' acquisition of English,
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oral development must be addressed.
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Those modern schools depend on
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building oral development strategies
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throughout the day.
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This is something that I've experienced
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in my own life as a recent immigrant as a third grader.
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And something that I had in my old school, as well.
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The teaching of values.
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We believe in preparing our scholars not just for college,
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but for life.
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We believe in equal importance of academic achievement
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and character development.
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For example, we will teach values
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through our daily read alouds, lessons,
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and conversations with scholars.
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And, lastly, I have dedicated my entire life,
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12 years of education,
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to the pursuit of all scholars
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have equal access to a great education in their communities.
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I also will proclaim today that
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I'm a very smart man.
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Because I married a Texan.
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And we moved to Texas to establish a school
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and raise my family.
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As my wife and I now decide
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what school my daughter should go to.
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My 21 month old daughter to attend.
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We have the luxury of having options.
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And that is amazing, because we live in this country,
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to have options.
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However, there are other families in Houston
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and the greater Houston area
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that do not have that opportunity.
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It's also our responsibility, as a charter,
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to be innovative in the community we try to operate.
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Therefore, Houston Classical will be
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the only classical education school
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that will address poor students in the Houston area.
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Thank you.
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Sure, just, again, thank the board
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for the opportunity to be here today.
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My name is Chris Smith.
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I'm currently the CFO and COO
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of the Windmaker Partnership in Houston.
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I'm a native Texan.
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Actually grew up just up the road in Belton.
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Really excited to be here today.
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Firmly believe in the power of education
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and in the vision of Houston Classical.
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And just excited to represent the board here today.
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Very good.
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Thank you, gentlemen.
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Any questions of these gentlemen?
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Miss Perez.
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Oh, will you allow Doctor Robinson to go first?
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There you go.
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Thank y'all for coming here.
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01:26:13.420 --> 01:26:17.360
And so, you lived in Texas for a year or two?
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This is my first year.
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Your first year.
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And you have experience in New York City?
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Yes.
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Teaching and leading school and founding a school.
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Well, a couple points.
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You know, on the last vote.
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And what I've been saying all day is
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I don't feel comfortable taking gamble
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with taxpayers' money on something that is
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what I consider high risk.
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And, obviously, Soner Tarim has
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a long experience and everything.
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But, in this, the two points here is,
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first of all, in Alief ISD,
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there are at least nine charter campuses
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within Alief ISD right now.
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Some of their schools are doing kind of marginal
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or on the poor side.
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But they have quite a bit of variety
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in terms of programs they offer.
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Mandarin immersion they offer.
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That's just one of the most unusual things.
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Dual language.
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They have a lot of offerings there.
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And so, I'm not sure if there's really a need there.
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And I don't know if.
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And, again, as I've said before,
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starting up a school from scratch
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is even more difficult than
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assuming a superintendent position.
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And in an area that's demographically challenging.
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01:27:53.494 --> 01:27:58.440
Being a classroom teacher or even being assistant principal
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is quite a bit different than running a whole school.
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01:28:01.240 --> 01:28:05.200
And doing it in an area where you're not.
2013
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Your wife might have familiarity,
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but you don't have as much familiarity.
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So, that would be my concern.
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But I appreciate, again.
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As I said before, you obviously have a passion
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for teaching kids.
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And I hope you continue regardless in that effort.
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01:28:20.862 --> 01:28:21.695
I just wanted.
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01:28:21.695 --> 01:28:23.520
If I can add, Doctor Robinson.
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01:28:23.520 --> 01:28:28.520
So, being in Texas and knowing that I needed
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01:28:28.590 --> 01:28:32.550
some background in the TEKS and Texas education,
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01:28:32.550 --> 01:28:34.070
I have two board members.
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01:28:34.070 --> 01:28:36.887
One was a turnaround principal at the ISD level
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01:28:36.887 --> 01:28:37.720
and on my board.
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01:28:37.720 --> 01:28:41.110
He's now the current principal of Saint Thomas in Houston.
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01:28:41.110 --> 01:28:44.670
And also I have a founding assistant principal
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01:28:44.670 --> 01:28:46.410
from KIPP who's also on my board.
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01:28:46.410 --> 01:28:48.410
And then, lastly, I do want to say that,
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01:28:49.480 --> 01:28:53.170
in 2012, I did co-found a charter school from scratch.
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01:28:53.170 --> 01:28:55.840
And we started together from handing out,
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01:28:55.840 --> 01:28:58.610
canvasing the streets on Saturdays and Sundays,
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01:28:58.610 --> 01:29:00.890
to building an amazing building now
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01:29:00.890 --> 01:29:01.723
where it's just gonna.
2036
01:29:01.723 --> 01:29:04.120
It's gonna double to become a second school.
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01:29:04.120 --> 01:29:05.450
So, I do have experience in
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building my own from the beginning.
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01:29:08.800 --> 01:29:12.130
And I do understand your points in regards to Alief.
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01:29:12.130 --> 01:29:13.670
We do also try to.
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01:29:13.670 --> 01:29:16.140
We're going to teach Latin beginning in fifth grade.
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01:29:16.140 --> 01:29:17.750
So, we're also gonna have that component.
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01:29:17.750 --> 01:29:20.160
And that goes directly to our classical model.
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01:29:20.160 --> 01:29:23.430
But I hear what you're saying in regards to Alief.
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01:29:23.430 --> 01:29:24.600
There are nine schools.
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01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:26.130
And a lot of those schools are
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01:29:26.130 --> 01:29:29.820
actually also middle schools.
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01:29:29.820 --> 01:29:31.810
So, there's still a need for elementary schools,
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01:29:31.810 --> 01:29:34.700
as I mentioned in my introduction.
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01:29:34.700 --> 01:29:36.167
But thank you for your.
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01:29:40.140 --> 01:29:42.607
It's actually Miss Perez and then Miss Davis.
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01:29:42.607 --> 01:29:44.400
Unless Miss Perez will choose to
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01:29:44.400 --> 01:29:46.443
yield the floor to you, Miss Davis.
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01:29:48.020 --> 01:29:48.853
Thank you.
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01:29:50.910 --> 01:29:52.140
During your first interview,
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01:29:52.140 --> 01:29:55.000
you guys described pre-service training
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01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:57.190
for your teachers for 28 days, correct?
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01:29:57.190 --> 01:29:58.023
Yes, ma'am.
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01:29:58.023 --> 01:30:00.220
You also mentioned that you may or may not
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01:30:00.220 --> 01:30:03.200
be able to pay those teachers for that 28 days, correct?
2061
01:30:03.200 --> 01:30:04.033
Yes.
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01:30:04.033 --> 01:30:05.650
Have you been able to reflect on that anymore?
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'Cause I would hate for a teacher
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01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:09.820
to have to work for 28 days without getting paid.
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01:30:09.820 --> 01:30:11.820
I don't even know if that's legal to do.
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01:30:13.240 --> 01:30:16.670
One thing is it's common practice in charter schools.
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Especially the ones I've worked before.
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01:30:18.730 --> 01:30:20.650
And, secondly, we will pay our teachers.
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01:30:20.650 --> 01:30:22.020
We're not going to have our teachers
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01:30:22.020 --> 01:30:24.600
come for professional development and not pay them.
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01:30:24.600 --> 01:30:26.060
And, like I mentioned, also,
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we also have flexible schedules. So, it's not going to be
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01:30:28.230 --> 01:30:31.070
eight hours of professional development.
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We may have half a day of professional development
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01:30:33.370 --> 01:30:36.334
and also feed them and also celebrate.
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01:30:36.334 --> 01:30:39.350
Because starting a school from scratch,
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01:30:39.350 --> 01:30:42.290
your first year, you need to build a foundation
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01:30:42.290 --> 01:30:43.123
from the beginning.
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01:30:43.123 --> 01:30:44.250
So, we need the days.
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And the days are going to be about
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01:30:45.819 --> 01:30:48.480
first building culture.
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01:30:48.480 --> 01:30:50.300
What is Houston Classical's culture?
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01:30:50.300 --> 01:30:51.330
How do we execute our.
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01:30:51.330 --> 01:30:53.166
And what I'm also proposing.
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01:30:53.166 --> 01:30:55.360
It's a very difficult task.
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01:30:55.360 --> 01:30:57.060
Because it's the language that we use
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01:30:57.060 --> 01:30:58.405
in order to address students.
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01:30:58.405 --> 01:31:01.410
I'm just worried about how you're going to pay them.
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01:31:01.410 --> 01:31:02.569
So, we're actually.
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01:31:02.569 --> 01:31:06.170
If approved, we will go in through a marketing campaign.
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01:31:06.170 --> 01:31:08.100
A fundraising campaign, I should say.
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01:31:08.100 --> 01:31:09.410
We're gonna raise our own private funds
2093
01:31:09.410 --> 01:31:11.280
to be able to pay our teachers.
2094
01:31:11.280 --> 01:31:13.160
And, if you don't raise it?
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01:31:13.160 --> 01:31:15.353
We're very confident we'll raise our money.
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01:31:20.610 --> 01:31:21.660
Miss Perez.
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01:31:24.180 --> 01:31:27.890
Just for my clarification, I'm gonna reiterate.
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01:31:27.890 --> 01:31:30.410
Did you just say you're confident that
2099
01:31:30.410 --> 01:31:33.270
you're gonna fundraise in order to pay your teachers
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01:31:33.270 --> 01:31:34.743
and, because of fundraising
2101
01:31:34.743 --> 01:31:36.870
is how you're gonna pay your teachers?
2102
01:31:36.870 --> 01:31:38.540
No, it's actually included in our budget
2103
01:31:38.540 --> 01:31:39.830
that we're gonna pay our teachers.
2104
01:31:39.830 --> 01:31:42.170
But, in order to.
2105
01:31:42.170 --> 01:31:43.260
In submitting the application,
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you have a very tight budget.
2107
01:31:45.163 --> 01:31:46.510
A very conservative budget.
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01:31:46.510 --> 01:31:47.570
So, we have to.
2109
01:31:47.570 --> 01:31:49.930
And, giving the per people allocation,
2110
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you have to be very conservative.
2111
01:31:51.830 --> 01:31:54.650
Now, knowing that, we still allocate moneys
2112
01:31:54.650 --> 01:31:57.200
for teachers to be paid in the summer.
2113
01:31:57.200 --> 01:32:00.570
But, if, for some reason, our budget doesn't work,
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01:32:00.570 --> 01:32:04.106
we have the backups of fundraising to be able to do that.
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01:32:04.106 --> 01:32:04.939
Understood.
2116
01:32:04.939 --> 01:32:05.772
Thank you.
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01:32:05.772 --> 01:32:07.080
Would you please, both of you in leadership,
2118
01:32:07.080 --> 01:32:10.410
would you please list all of your ESBET credentials for me?
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01:32:10.410 --> 01:32:13.078
I currently do not have credentials.
2120
01:32:13.078 --> 01:32:13.911
You have no ESBET credentials
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01:32:13.911 --> 01:32:16.660
as teachers, principals, superintendents, nothing?
2122
01:32:16.660 --> 01:32:17.493
I have my experience.
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01:32:17.493 --> 01:32:19.670
Okay, will you tell me how many
2124
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of your projected teachers will have.
2125
01:32:22.380 --> 01:32:23.470
Will you be teaching dual language
2126
01:32:23.470 --> 01:32:25.860
and will they have their bilingual certifications?
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01:32:25.860 --> 01:32:28.080
If we meet the 20 rule, yes.
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We'll have a dual language program.
2129
01:32:31.298 --> 01:32:34.330
But, in our first year, we will have.
2130
01:32:34.330 --> 01:32:35.650
In our application, we put that we would have
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40% of our students being English language learners.
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01:32:38.370 --> 01:32:41.320
So, we're gonna hire a ELL coordinator.
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In each grade, we'll have an ELL certified teacher
2134
01:32:43.193 --> 01:32:45.410
to be able to address the needs of the students.
2135
01:32:45.410 --> 01:32:47.894
And ELL certification is what exactly?
2136
01:32:47.894 --> 01:32:48.727
I'm sorry.
2137
01:32:48.727 --> 01:32:49.560
An ESL certification.
2138
01:32:49.560 --> 01:32:50.393
I apologize.
2139
01:32:50.393 --> 01:32:52.290
So, not a bilingual certification?
2140
01:32:52.290 --> 01:32:54.440
Only if we meet the 20 rule.
2141
01:32:54.440 --> 01:32:56.713
But you're projecting that you'll have 40?
2142
01:32:56.713 --> 01:32:58.296
40%.
2143
01:32:59.556 --> 01:33:00.389
Okay.
2144
01:33:02.980 --> 01:33:07.980
What about reading, writing, math, and science?
2145
01:33:08.090 --> 01:33:10.240
Are you projecting that your teachers
2146
01:33:10.240 --> 01:33:11.390
will have ESBET credentials
2147
01:33:11.390 --> 01:33:13.520
for those content areas, as well?
2148
01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:15.180
So, first, we'll follow the law.
2149
01:33:15.180 --> 01:33:16.013
Social studies.
2150
01:33:16.013 --> 01:33:17.680
Thank you.
We will follow the law.
2151
01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:18.940
Whatever the law says in regards to.
2152
01:33:18.940 --> 01:33:21.060
Sorry, I'm not asking you to follow the law.
2153
01:33:21.060 --> 01:33:22.280
I am sure you'll follow the law.
2154
01:33:22.280 --> 01:33:23.610
What I'm asking is if you'll have
2155
01:33:23.610 --> 01:33:25.460
ESBET credentialed teachers.
2156
01:33:25.460 --> 01:33:27.038
It is not required for us to have.
2157
01:33:27.038 --> 01:33:27.871
I know it's not required.
2158
01:33:27.871 --> 01:33:29.633
But I'm asking you if you will.
2159
01:33:32.960 --> 01:33:33.793
I'm sorry.
2160
01:33:33.793 --> 01:33:36.220
So, we will not require that.
2161
01:33:36.220 --> 01:33:38.810
But, if they do have it, it's a plus.
2162
01:33:38.810 --> 01:33:39.643
I agree.
2163
01:33:39.643 --> 01:33:40.476
Thank you.
2164
01:33:43.080 --> 01:33:44.020
Miss Hardy.
2165
01:33:44.020 --> 01:33:45.880
I'd like to call a vote.
2166
01:33:45.880 --> 01:33:46.713
Okay.
2167
01:33:47.980 --> 01:33:49.529
Is there a second?
2168
01:33:49.529 --> 01:33:50.362
Second.
2169
01:33:50.362 --> 01:33:52.766
Okay, motion's been made and seconded
2170
01:33:52.766 --> 01:33:54.843
to call for a vote previous question.
2171
01:33:55.890 --> 01:33:56.723
Not debatable.
2172
01:33:56.723 --> 01:33:57.804
Not amendable.
2173
01:33:57.804 --> 01:33:59.392
Requires a 2/3 vote.
2174
01:33:59.392 --> 01:34:01.573
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 10.
2175
01:34:04.850 --> 01:34:06.335
Cut off debate.
2176
01:34:06.335 --> 01:34:07.630
Okay, so, there's 10 of us.
2177
01:34:07.630 --> 01:34:08.853
So, it would take.
2178
01:34:11.776 --> 01:34:12.980
And then decide.
2179
01:34:12.980 --> 01:34:15.400
All in favor of calling for the question
2180
01:34:15.400 --> 01:34:17.343
signify by raising your right hand.
2181
01:34:21.140 --> 01:34:22.420
Cutting off discussion.
2182
01:34:22.420 --> 01:34:23.450
Yes, we do.
2183
01:34:23.450 --> 01:34:24.393
We have a quorum.
2184
01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:31.320
Nine, 10.
2185
01:34:31.320 --> 01:34:33.070
All opposed, raise your right hand.
2186
01:34:34.230 --> 01:34:36.070
Motion carries.
2187
01:34:36.070 --> 01:34:37.350
Discussion is ended.
2188
01:34:37.350 --> 01:34:39.160
Gentlemen, thank you very much.
2189
01:34:39.160 --> 01:34:40.793
We'll now proceed to a vote.
2190
01:34:42.480 --> 01:34:44.535
We will now proceed to a vote.
2191
01:34:44.535 --> 01:34:47.419
(laughter)
2192
01:34:47.419 --> 01:34:50.080
Okay, so, yes means we agree with the veto.
2193
01:34:50.080 --> 01:34:51.570
This is a motion to veto.
2194
01:34:51.570 --> 01:34:52.403
That's correct.
2195
01:34:52.403 --> 01:34:53.400
Motion to veto.
2196
01:34:53.400 --> 01:34:56.163
So, yes is a veto.
2197
01:35:02.056 --> 01:35:04.920
Probably so.
2198
01:35:04.920 --> 01:35:06.050
Are we taking a break?
2199
01:35:06.050 --> 01:35:07.490
Are we at recess?
2200
01:35:07.490 --> 01:35:09.210
Knock on the door.
2201
01:35:09.210 --> 01:35:12.000
I'm thinking.
2202
01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:13.550
I'm thinking about voting.
2203
01:35:13.550 --> 01:35:14.988
I'm thinking about voting.
2204
01:35:14.988 --> 01:35:17.478
No, sir, we don't get to think about voting.
2205
01:35:17.478 --> 01:35:19.121
Call the vote.
2206
01:35:19.121 --> 01:35:20.140
We got a quorum.
2207
01:35:20.140 --> 01:35:21.163
Do we now?
2208
01:35:22.770 --> 01:35:25.030
All right, call for the vote.
2209
01:35:25.030 --> 01:35:26.130
Roll call, please.
2210
01:35:26.130 --> 01:35:27.280
Miss Perez.
2211
01:35:27.280 --> 01:35:28.390
Yes.
2212
01:35:28.390 --> 01:35:29.900
Mister Cortez.
2213
01:35:29.900 --> 01:35:31.053
Miss Perez-Diaz.
2214
01:35:33.880 --> 01:35:35.247
Yes, Miss Cargill.
2215
01:35:35.247 --> 01:35:36.700
I haven't read the motion.
2216
01:35:36.700 --> 01:35:38.352
I thought you had.
2217
01:35:38.352 --> 01:35:40.125
I asked Kay if you did and she thought you did.
2218
01:35:40.125 --> 01:35:41.424
Okay, in that case,
2219
01:35:41.424 --> 01:35:43.485
let's put the motion forward.
2220
01:35:43.485 --> 01:35:45.152
All right.
2221
01:35:50.251 --> 01:35:53.540
The motion was made by the business on page six.
2222
01:35:53.540 --> 01:35:55.759
Members of your committee.
2223
01:35:55.759 --> 01:35:56.592
It was.
2224
01:35:58.342 --> 01:35:59.403
Sorry.
2225
01:35:59.403 --> 01:36:02.370
On page six of the minutes that
2226
01:36:02.370 --> 01:36:05.401
was recommended by the Committee on School Initiatives
2227
01:36:05.401 --> 01:36:10.401
that the SBOE veto Houston Classical School-Houston
2228
01:36:10.610 --> 01:36:14.176
scheduled to open in the '20-'21 school year.
2229
01:36:14.176 --> 01:36:16.547
You can look on page three.
2230
01:36:16.547 --> 01:36:18.823
I mean, page six to see that three members voted yes
2231
01:36:18.823 --> 01:36:20.583
and two voted no.
2232
01:36:24.829 --> 01:36:26.410
Okay, go proceed to the vote, right?
2233
01:36:26.410 --> 01:36:27.894
As if the previous question.
2234
01:36:27.894 --> 01:36:32.130
Okay, all right, so, then roll call vote, please.
2235
01:36:32.130 --> 01:36:35.070
A yes means you're in favor of a veto.
2236
01:36:35.070 --> 01:36:38.093
No means that you're not in favor of a veto.
2237
01:36:40.420 --> 01:36:42.440
So, I think, technically, I should start again.
2238
01:36:42.440 --> 01:36:43.500
So, Miss Perez.
2239
01:36:43.500 --> 01:36:44.800
Yes.
2240
01:36:44.800 --> 01:36:46.070
Mister Cortez.
2241
01:36:46.070 --> 01:36:47.915
Miss Perez-Diaz.
2242
01:36:47.915 --> 01:36:48.748
Yes.
2243
01:36:48.748 --> 01:36:49.581
Mister Allen.
2244
01:36:49.581 --> 01:36:50.930
No.
2245
01:36:50.930 --> 01:36:51.850
Mister Mercer.
2246
01:36:51.850 --> 01:36:53.020
Mrs. Bahorich.
2247
01:36:53.020 --> 01:36:54.536
Doctor Robinson.
2248
01:36:54.536 --> 01:36:56.080
Yes.
2249
01:36:56.080 --> 01:36:57.060
Mrs. Cargill.
2250
01:36:57.060 --> 01:36:57.910
Yeah.
2251
01:36:58.840 --> 01:36:59.673
Doctor Ellis.
2252
01:36:59.673 --> 01:37:00.890
No.
2253
01:37:00.890 --> 01:37:01.890
Mister Maynard.
2254
01:37:01.890 --> 01:37:03.076
Nay.
2255
01:37:03.076 --> 01:37:04.570
Miss Hardy.
2256
01:37:04.570 --> 01:37:05.970
No.
2257
01:37:05.970 --> 01:37:06.970
Miss Little.
2258
01:37:08.880 --> 01:37:09.713
Miss Davis.
2259
01:37:09.713 --> 01:37:11.200
Yes.
2260
01:37:11.200 --> 01:37:12.430
Mrs. Melton-Malone.
2261
01:37:12.430 --> 01:37:13.346
No.
2262
01:37:13.346 --> 01:37:14.740
Mister Rowley.
2263
01:37:14.740 --> 01:37:15.573
No.
2264
01:37:16.930 --> 01:37:19.787
Okay, so, the motion fails.
2265
01:37:19.787 --> 01:37:23.385
Three to seven.
2266
01:37:23.385 --> 01:37:24.833
Four to seven.
2267
01:37:25.830 --> 01:37:26.900
I keep missing that.
2268
01:37:26.900 --> 01:37:28.640
Okay, four to seven.
2269
01:37:28.640 --> 01:37:29.473
Motion fails.
2270
01:37:29.473 --> 01:37:30.306
Chairman.
2271
01:37:30.306 --> 01:37:31.330
Yes, Doctor Ellis.
2272
01:37:31.330 --> 01:37:33.413
I'd like to make a motion that
2273
01:37:33.413 --> 01:37:37.580
we take no action on Houston Classical
2274
01:37:37.580 --> 01:37:41.480
for the 2020-2021 school year.
2275
01:37:41.480 --> 01:37:43.500
Is there a second? Okay, motion's been made and seconded
2276
01:37:43.500 --> 01:37:45.400
that we take no action.
2277
01:37:45.400 --> 01:37:46.653
Any discussion?
2278
01:37:48.250 --> 01:37:49.150
Ready for a vote?
2279
01:37:49.150 --> 01:37:50.650
Just explain the vote.
2280
01:37:51.580 --> 01:37:53.100
In this, it's the other way around.
2281
01:37:53.100 --> 01:37:58.100
If you are in favor of the charter going forward,
2282
01:37:58.540 --> 01:38:01.100
you vote yes on this one.
2283
01:38:01.100 --> 01:38:04.970
If you are opposed to the charter being awarded,
2284
01:38:04.970 --> 01:38:06.023
then you vote no.
2285
01:38:06.860 --> 01:38:07.930
Roll call vote.
2286
01:38:07.930 --> 01:38:09.010
Miss Perez.
2287
01:38:09.010 --> 01:38:10.250
No.
2288
01:38:10.250 --> 01:38:11.580
Mister Cortez.
2289
01:38:11.580 --> 01:38:13.194
Miss Perez-Diaz.
2290
01:38:13.194 --> 01:38:14.027
No.
2291
01:38:14.027 --> 01:38:14.940
Mister Allen.
2292
01:38:14.940 --> 01:38:16.200
Yes.
2293
01:38:16.200 --> 01:38:17.300
Mister Mercer.
2294
01:38:18.294 --> 01:38:19.670
Miss Bahorich.
2295
01:38:19.670 --> 01:38:21.180
Doctor Robinson.
2296
01:38:21.180 --> 01:38:22.640
No.
2297
01:38:22.640 --> 01:38:23.473
Miss Cargill.
2298
01:38:23.473 --> 01:38:24.620
Yes.
2299
01:38:24.620 --> 01:38:25.540
Doctor Ellis.
2300
01:38:25.540 --> 01:38:26.530
Yes.
2301
01:38:26.530 --> 01:38:27.422
Mister Maynard.
2302
01:38:27.422 --> 01:38:28.820
Aye.
2303
01:38:28.820 --> 01:38:29.690
Miss Hardy.
2304
01:38:29.690 --> 01:38:30.905
Yes.
2305
01:38:30.905 --> 01:38:32.430
Miss Little.
2306
01:38:32.430 --> 01:38:33.658
Miss Davis.
2307
01:38:33.658 --> 01:38:34.970
No.
2308
01:38:34.970 --> 01:38:36.130
Mrs. Melton-Malone.
2309
01:38:36.130 --> 01:38:37.460
Yes.
2310
01:38:37.460 --> 01:38:38.750
And Mister Rowley.
2311
01:38:38.750 --> 01:38:39.583
Yes.
2312
01:38:40.770 --> 01:38:43.193
Okay, so, that motion carried.
2313
01:38:45.512 --> 01:38:48.403
(applause)
2314
01:38:48.403 --> 01:38:49.903
What was the vote?
2315
01:38:53.236 --> 01:38:54.725
Seven to four.
2316
01:38:54.725 --> 01:38:55.558
Seven to four.
2317
01:38:55.558 --> 01:38:56.391
Seven in favor.
2318
01:38:56.391 --> 01:38:57.224
Four against.
2319
01:38:57.224 --> 01:38:58.057
So, that motion carries.
2320
01:38:58.057 --> 01:39:01.983
Okay, members, I think that takes care of that agenda item.
2321
01:39:02.940 --> 01:39:05.360
So, oh, there are other items
2322
01:39:05.360 --> 01:39:07.183
on the Committee for Initiatives.
2323
01:39:08.460 --> 01:39:10.350
Can we thank staff for a job well done?
2324
01:39:10.350 --> 01:39:12.567
Thank you, Heather and team.
2325
01:39:12.567 --> 01:39:13.400
Did awesome.
2326
01:39:13.400 --> 01:39:15.860
(applause)
2327
01:39:15.860 --> 01:39:17.951
I wanna say thank you to board members.
2328
01:39:17.951 --> 01:39:21.636
I know this has been a rigorous, very rigorous process
2329
01:39:21.636 --> 01:39:24.420
for our applicants, as well as you.
2330
01:39:24.420 --> 01:39:26.390
I appreciate your discernment, as well.
2331
01:39:26.390 --> 01:39:28.090
Thank you for recognizing my staff.
2332
01:39:28.090 --> 01:39:28.923
I appreciate that.
2333
01:39:28.923 --> 01:39:29.756
Absolutely.
2334
01:39:30.940 --> 01:39:33.780
Okay, members, we're on page two of the minutes
2335
01:39:33.780 --> 01:39:35.987
for the Committee on School Initiatives.
2336
01:39:35.987 --> 01:39:38.720
Agenda item number four.
2337
01:39:38.720 --> 01:39:42.270
Review of proposed new TAC chapter 235,
2338
01:39:42.270 --> 01:39:45.960
classroom teacher certification standards, subchapter F,
2339
01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:48.823
supplemental certificate standards.
2340
01:39:50.150 --> 01:39:53.280
And it was recommended unanimously
2341
01:39:53.280 --> 01:39:55.610
to recommend that the State Board of Education
2342
01:39:55.610 --> 01:39:57.600
take no action on the proposed amendment
2343
01:39:57.600 --> 01:40:00.470
to 19TAC chapter 235,
2344
01:40:00.470 --> 01:40:02.900
classroom teacher certification standards,
2345
01:40:02.900 --> 01:40:05.970
subchapter F, supplemental certification standards.
2346
01:40:05.970 --> 01:40:10.470
Okay, any discussion on that agenda item?
2347
01:40:11.650 --> 01:40:13.420
Are we ready for a vote?
2348
01:40:13.420 --> 01:40:16.000
All in favor signify by saying aye.
2349
01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:17.001
Aye.
2350
01:40:17.001 --> 01:40:18.411
All opposed, no.
2351
01:40:18.411 --> 01:40:19.244
Nay.
2352
01:40:19.244 --> 01:40:20.093
Motion carries.
2353
01:40:20.093 --> 01:40:20.926
Agenda item five.
2354
01:40:20.926 --> 01:40:23.900
The motion is found on the top of page three.
2355
01:40:23.900 --> 01:40:26.417
It was carried unanimously to recommend that
2356
01:40:26.417 --> 01:40:30.260
the state Board of Education take no action
2357
01:40:30.260 --> 01:40:34.250
on the proposed amendments to 19TAC chapter 241,
2358
01:40:34.250 --> 01:40:36.780
certification as principal, subchapter B,
2359
01:40:36.780 --> 01:40:41.563
principal certificate, section 241.41, general provisions.
2360
01:40:44.240 --> 01:40:46.473
Any discussion on that item?
2361
01:40:47.380 --> 01:40:48.920
Ready for a vote?
2362
01:40:48.920 --> 01:40:51.080
All in favor, signify by saying aye.
2363
01:40:51.080 --> 01:40:51.913
Aye.
2364
01:40:51.913 --> 01:40:53.244
All opposed, no.
2365
01:40:53.244 --> 01:40:54.077
Nay.
2366
01:40:54.077 --> 01:40:54.910
Motion carries.
2367
01:40:54.910 --> 01:40:59.320
The last one is agenda item six found on page three.
2368
01:41:01.950 --> 01:41:06.270
It was moved and seconded to recommend that
2369
01:41:06.270 --> 01:41:09.230
the State Board of Education approve for first reading
2370
01:41:09.230 --> 01:41:11.510
a filing authorization the proposed amendment
2371
01:41:12.484 --> 01:41:15.330
to 19TAC chapter 157, hearings and appeals,
2372
01:41:15.330 --> 01:41:17.713
subchapter D, independent hearing examiners,
2373
01:41:19.020 --> 01:41:23.240
section 157.41, certification criteria
2374
01:41:23.240 --> 01:41:26.120
for independent hearing examiners.
2375
01:41:26.120 --> 01:41:27.823
Any discussion on that item?
2376
01:41:29.450 --> 01:41:30.590
Ready for a vote?
2377
01:41:30.590 --> 01:41:32.965
All in favor, signify by saying aye.
2378
01:41:32.965 --> 01:41:33.798
Aye.
2379
01:41:33.798 --> 01:41:34.925
All opposed, no.
2380
01:41:34.925 --> 01:41:36.670
Motion carries.
2381
01:41:36.670 --> 01:41:37.503
I'm done.
2382
01:41:37.503 --> 01:41:38.649
Thank you.
2383
01:41:38.649 --> 01:41:40.040
Thank you, Miss Cargill.
2384
01:41:40.040 --> 01:41:44.010
Now I've asked Mister Maynard to take up
2385
01:41:44.010 --> 01:41:49.010
the Committee of the Full Board minutes and those items.
2386
01:41:49.760 --> 01:41:52.050
Do we do the item that was taken off consent
2387
01:41:52.050 --> 01:41:53.712
first or last or does it matter?
2388
01:41:53.712 --> 01:41:55.370
I don't think it matters.
2389
01:41:55.370 --> 01:41:58.860
Except that Mister Cortez has to have it removed and solved
2390
01:41:58.860 --> 01:42:00.427
for him to be in the room.
2391
01:42:00.427 --> 01:42:01.897
He's gone.
2392
01:42:01.897 --> 01:42:04.230
In that case, do it.
2393
01:42:06.282 --> 01:42:07.563
I'd like to call the vote.
2394
01:42:07.563 --> 01:42:09.330
(laughter)
2395
01:42:09.330 --> 01:42:12.610
Well, I'll tell you what, Sue, let's.
2396
01:42:13.837 --> 01:42:15.910
Let him know I tried hard to get the room to do it.
2397
01:42:15.910 --> 01:42:17.180
Well, let's just take them in order.
2398
01:42:17.180 --> 01:42:20.218
We'll take the consent item last and go from there.
2399
01:42:20.218 --> 01:42:22.720
So, okay, Mister Maynard, please.
2400
01:42:22.720 --> 01:42:25.764
All right, mister chairman, if you take your minutes,
2401
01:42:25.764 --> 01:42:28.140
the first action item is proposed revisions
2402
01:42:28.140 --> 01:42:30.230
to 19TAC chapter 110,
2403
01:42:30.230 --> 01:42:31.970
TEKS central knowledge and skills
2404
01:42:31.970 --> 01:42:34.550
for English language arts and reading,
2405
01:42:34.550 --> 01:42:37.020
and 19TAC chapter 128,
2406
01:42:37.020 --> 01:42:39.300
TEKS central knowledge and skills
2407
01:42:39.300 --> 01:42:41.420
for Spanish language arts and reading
2408
01:42:41.420 --> 01:42:42.950
and English as a second language.
2409
01:42:42.950 --> 01:42:44.620
Second reading, final adoption.
2410
01:42:44.620 --> 01:42:47.243
Members, the motion is found on page two.
2411
01:42:48.959 --> 01:42:51.230
And, therefore, on behalf of
2412
01:42:51.230 --> 01:42:53.117
the Committee of the Full Board,
2413
01:42:53.117 --> 01:42:56.770
I move that the State Board of Education
2414
01:42:56.770 --> 01:42:58.310
approve for second reading and the final adoption
2415
01:42:58.310 --> 01:43:01.710
of proposed revisions to 19TAC chapter 110,
2416
01:43:01.710 --> 01:43:03.980
TEKS essential knowledge and skills
2417
01:43:03.980 --> 01:43:05.910
for English language arts and reading,
2418
01:43:05.910 --> 01:43:10.846
and 19TAC chapter 128, TEKS essential knowledge and skills
2419
01:43:10.846 --> 01:43:13.520
for Spanish language arts and reading
2420
01:43:13.520 --> 01:43:15.950
and English as a second language.
2421
01:43:15.950 --> 01:43:17.720
And to make an affirmed finding that
2422
01:43:17.720 --> 01:43:20.070
immediate adoption of the proposed revisions
2423
01:43:20.070 --> 01:43:22.553
to 19TAC chapter 110,
2424
01:43:22.553 --> 01:43:24.300
TEKS essential knowledge and skills for
2425
01:43:24.300 --> 01:43:26.240
English language arts and reading,
2426
01:43:26.240 --> 01:43:29.320
and 19TAC chapter 128,
2427
01:43:29.320 --> 01:43:31.130
TEKS essential knowledge and skills
2428
01:43:31.130 --> 01:43:32.477
for Spanish language arts and reading
2429
01:43:32.477 --> 01:43:34.370
and English as a second language,
2430
01:43:34.370 --> 01:43:36.646
is necessary and shall have an effective date
2431
01:43:36.646 --> 01:43:38.970
of 20 days after found as adopted
2432
01:43:38.970 --> 01:43:40.710
by the Texas Register.
2433
01:43:40.710 --> 01:43:43.320
And, mister chairman, this requires a 2/3 vote
2434
01:43:43.320 --> 01:43:45.170
of the members present and voting.
2435
01:43:45.170 --> 01:43:47.500
Okay, thank you, Mister Maynard.
2436
01:43:47.500 --> 01:43:50.030
Miss Ramos, is this the one that we need to add?
2437
01:43:50.030 --> 01:43:51.970
It's not.
2438
01:43:51.970 --> 01:43:52.880
So, we're good.
2439
01:43:52.880 --> 01:43:55.853
Okay, so, any discussion about this item?
2440
01:43:57.080 --> 01:43:58.170
We ready for a vote?
2441
01:43:58.170 --> 01:44:01.660
All in favor, signify by.
2442
01:44:01.660 --> 01:44:05.393
Is this the part where we make that clarification?
2443
01:44:05.393 --> 01:44:06.433
That's what I was asking.
2444
01:44:06.433 --> 01:44:07.648
I'm sorry.
2445
01:44:07.648 --> 01:44:09.360
So, we do need, we believe, for you to make
2446
01:44:09.360 --> 01:44:11.866
some adjustments to the CCRS alignment document.
2447
01:44:11.866 --> 01:44:15.200
It is my understanding that you don't intend
2448
01:44:15.200 --> 01:44:16.600
to make any other amendments
2449
01:44:17.665 --> 01:44:18.869
based on feedback that you've received.
2450
01:44:18.869 --> 01:44:20.032
Okay, but this is an agenda item
2451
01:44:20.032 --> 01:44:22.687
where we needed to talk about the CCRS crosswalk?
2452
01:44:22.687 --> 01:44:23.997
No, this is not the item.
2453
01:44:23.997 --> 01:44:25.921
You're just raising that for our future.
2454
01:44:25.921 --> 01:44:26.800
She was.
2455
01:44:26.800 --> 01:44:28.960
Some of you received some comments last night.
2456
01:44:28.960 --> 01:44:31.820
And she was just asking if there were any intentions
2457
01:44:31.820 --> 01:44:33.940
to make any additional amendments.
2458
01:44:33.940 --> 01:44:35.260
Gotcha, okay, all right.
2459
01:44:35.260 --> 01:44:38.339
So, we're voting on this motion as stated, then.
2460
01:44:38.339 --> 01:44:39.730
We ready for a vote?
2461
01:44:39.730 --> 01:44:42.130
All in favor, signify by raising your left hand.
2462
01:44:46.930 --> 01:44:47.913
All opposed?
2463
01:44:48.980 --> 01:44:50.410
Motion carries.
2464
01:44:50.410 --> 01:44:53.223
Okay, Mister Maynard, if you'll continue.
2465
01:44:53.223 --> 01:44:55.248
A moment to just.
2466
01:44:55.248 --> 01:44:58.869
There's nothing else that I would need to.
2467
01:44:58.869 --> 01:45:00.093
There's not another motion there we need to.
2468
01:45:00.093 --> 01:45:01.590
There's several motions there.
2469
01:45:01.590 --> 01:45:03.414
But I think we're done with that.
2470
01:45:03.414 --> 01:45:07.870
I'm assuming that you did not want to
2471
01:45:07.870 --> 01:45:10.760
make any changes to what you did on Wednesday.
2472
01:45:10.760 --> 01:45:12.177
Just making sure.
2473
01:45:12.177 --> 01:45:13.956
Monica, just keep us straight, okay?
2474
01:45:13.956 --> 01:45:17.770
I'm not sure that I can, at this point.
2475
01:45:17.770 --> 01:45:19.360
All right, item three.
2476
01:45:19.360 --> 01:45:24.100
Proposed repeal and new 19TAC chapter 126.
2477
01:45:24.100 --> 01:45:25.830
And that's item number three.
2478
01:45:25.830 --> 01:45:30.830
So, mister chair, I move that the State Board of Education
2479
01:45:32.310 --> 01:45:34.350
approve for second reading and final adoption
2480
01:45:34.350 --> 01:45:39.350
proposed repeal and new 19TAC chapter 126,
2481
01:45:39.833 --> 01:45:41.393
TEKS essential knowledge and skills
2482
01:45:41.393 --> 01:45:43.530
for technology applications,
2483
01:45:43.530 --> 01:45:46.805
subchapter C, high school, 126.36,
2484
01:45:46.805 --> 01:45:49.410
digital forensic for one credit
2485
01:45:49.410 --> 01:45:52.160
beginning with school year 2019 and '20.
2486
01:45:52.160 --> 01:45:54.573
And making an affirmative finding that
2487
01:45:55.630 --> 01:45:57.702
immediate option of the proposed appeal
2488
01:45:57.702 --> 01:46:01.193
and new 19TAC chapter 126,
2489
01:46:01.193 --> 01:46:03.260
TEKS essential knowledge and skills
2490
01:46:03.260 --> 01:46:06.300
for technology applications, subchapter C, high school,
2491
01:46:06.300 --> 01:46:10.130
126.36, digital forensics for one credit
2492
01:46:10.130 --> 01:46:13.073
beginning with school year 2019 and 2020,
2493
01:46:14.420 --> 01:46:16.820
is necessary and shall have an effective date
2494
01:46:16.820 --> 01:46:20.270
of August 1, 2019.
2495
01:46:20.270 --> 01:46:22.366
2/3 vote required on this.
2496
01:46:22.366 --> 01:46:24.633
Any further discussion?
2497
01:46:25.770 --> 01:46:26.773
Ready for a vote?
2498
01:46:27.690 --> 01:46:28.980
Oh, you're ready to vote.
2499
01:46:28.980 --> 01:46:31.990
Okay, all right, all in favor. It does take a 2/3 vote.
2500
01:46:31.990 --> 01:46:34.273
All in favor, raise the hand of your choice.
2501
01:46:36.652 --> 01:46:37.875
Do we have a quorum?
2502
01:46:37.875 --> 01:46:39.147
Yes, we do.
2503
01:46:40.231 --> 01:46:42.470
Counting the votes, I imagine.
2504
01:46:42.470 --> 01:46:43.710
We good?
2505
01:46:43.710 --> 01:46:45.060
Okay, there was a 2/3 vote.
2506
01:46:46.587 --> 01:46:48.370
In fact, it was unanimous members voting.
2507
01:46:48.370 --> 01:46:50.567
And that passes.
2508
01:46:50.567 --> 01:46:53.170
Okay, Mister Maynard.
2509
01:46:53.170 --> 01:46:54.520
Okay, we're on page four.
2510
01:46:56.550 --> 01:47:00.370
Next, we're gonna go to the proposed amendments
2511
01:47:00.370 --> 01:47:03.260
to 19TAC chapter 74.
2512
01:47:03.260 --> 01:47:04.093
Still on page four.
2513
01:47:04.093 --> 01:47:05.850
Item number four.
2514
01:47:05.850 --> 01:47:08.940
Mister chair, I move that the State Board of Education
2515
01:47:08.940 --> 01:47:10.780
approve for second reading and final adoption
2516
01:47:10.780 --> 01:47:14.460
proposed amendments to 19TAC chapter 74,
2517
01:47:14.460 --> 01:47:16.680
curriculum requirements, subchapter B,
2518
01:47:16.680 --> 01:47:17.870
graduation requirements,
2519
01:47:17.870 --> 01:47:21.290
74.12, foundation high school program,
2520
01:47:21.290 --> 01:47:23.960
and 74.13, endorsements,
2521
01:47:23.960 --> 01:47:25.690
and make an affirmative finding that
2522
01:47:25.690 --> 01:47:28.580
immediate adoption of the proposed amendments
2523
01:47:28.580 --> 01:47:32.230
to 19TAC chapter 74, curriculum requirements,
2524
01:47:32.230 --> 01:47:34.510
subchapter B, graduation requirements,
2525
01:47:34.510 --> 01:47:38.020
74.12, foundation high school program,
2526
01:47:38.020 --> 01:47:41.170
and 74.13, endorsements, is necessary
2527
01:47:41.170 --> 01:47:44.150
and shall have an effective date of August 1, 2019.
2528
01:47:47.250 --> 01:47:48.333
Any discussion?
2529
01:47:49.300 --> 01:47:50.540
Ready for the vote?
2530
01:47:50.540 --> 01:47:53.203
All in favor, signify by raising your right hand.
2531
01:47:55.930 --> 01:47:57.393
All opposed, same sign.
2532
01:47:58.840 --> 01:48:00.903
Unanimous, 2/3 vote passes.
2533
01:48:03.720 --> 01:48:04.881
All right, mister chair,
2534
01:48:04.881 --> 01:48:09.881
the next item is related to proclamation 2021.
2535
01:48:13.480 --> 01:48:17.170
On behalf of the Committee of the Full Board,
2536
01:48:17.170 --> 01:48:18.660
move that the State Board of Education
2537
01:48:18.660 --> 01:48:21.150
approve proclamation 2021
2538
01:48:21.150 --> 01:48:22.290
of the State Board of Education
2539
01:48:22.290 --> 01:48:25.263
advertising bids for instructional materials as amended.
2540
01:48:27.900 --> 01:48:30.810
Okay, and just for purposes that
2541
01:48:30.810 --> 01:48:32.678
are listing on our posted agenda,
2542
01:48:32.678 --> 01:48:37.180
proclamation 2020, no action was taken on that item.
2543
01:48:37.180 --> 01:48:40.980
So, we're now talking about proclamation 2021.
2544
01:48:40.980 --> 01:48:42.440
Motion's been made.
2545
01:48:42.440 --> 01:48:44.100
Recommendations have been made.
2546
01:48:44.100 --> 01:48:45.333
Any discussion?
2547
01:48:46.740 --> 01:48:49.363
All in favor, signify by saying aye.
2548
01:48:49.363 --> 01:48:50.196
Aye.
2549
01:48:50.196 --> 01:48:51.694
All opposed?
2550
01:48:51.694 --> 01:48:53.667
Motion carries.
2551
01:48:53.667 --> 01:48:56.100
And then I guess we can take up the consent item,
2552
01:48:56.100 --> 01:48:58.527
which is number seven right there below that, then.
2553
01:48:58.527 --> 01:49:00.730
So, mister chair, I'm going to.
2554
01:49:01.930 --> 01:49:03.440
I'm going to move the original motion that
2555
01:49:03.440 --> 01:49:04.680
this is coming out of committee.
2556
01:49:04.680 --> 01:49:06.950
And then it will be the pleasure of the board
2557
01:49:06.950 --> 01:49:10.430
to amend as they see fit.
2558
01:49:10.430 --> 01:49:11.944
So, mister chair, I move.
2559
01:49:11.944 --> 01:49:16.170
On behalf of the Committee of the Full Board,
2560
01:49:16.170 --> 01:49:17.650
I move that the State Board of Education
2561
01:49:17.650 --> 01:49:21.593
submit the names of David Corpus and Ysrael Valencia
2562
01:49:23.330 --> 01:49:24.830
to the governor for consideration
2563
01:49:24.830 --> 01:49:26.470
for appointment to the board of trustees
2564
01:49:26.470 --> 01:49:28.900
of the Teacher Retirement System of Texas
2565
01:49:28.900 --> 01:49:32.880
for a term expiring August 31 of 2025.
2566
01:49:32.880 --> 01:49:34.680
I think, Mister Maynard,
2567
01:49:34.680 --> 01:49:36.680
Miss Ingraham, Nella Ingraham, was also.
2568
01:49:37.534 --> 01:49:40.180
I see what the original.
2569
01:49:40.180 --> 01:49:41.260
I'm seeing here now.
2570
01:49:41.260 --> 01:49:44.550
So, if I can go ahead and make that correction.
2571
01:49:44.550 --> 01:49:48.793
Also, then, to add, behind Mister Valencia,
2572
01:49:50.460 --> 01:49:53.180
the name of Nellie Ingraham.
2573
01:49:53.180 --> 01:49:55.190
If I could make that correction to the motion, please.
2574
01:49:55.190 --> 01:49:56.173
Thank you for that.
2575
01:49:57.170 --> 01:50:00.473
Okay, any discussion on this item?
2576
01:50:02.170 --> 01:50:04.031
Yes, Miss Perez-Diaz.
2577
01:50:04.031 --> 01:50:04.864
I'd like to make.
2578
01:50:04.864 --> 01:50:07.140
I'd like to make an amendment to the motion.
2579
01:50:07.140 --> 01:50:08.918
Is this the appropriate time to do that?
2580
01:50:08.918 --> 01:50:09.751
Yes.
2581
01:50:09.751 --> 01:50:11.950
Okay, I'd like to amend the motion
2582
01:50:11.950 --> 01:50:16.767
to add back in Miss Christine Ardis.
2583
01:50:16.767 --> 01:50:21.767
Without going back into the minutes, or the agenda,
2584
01:50:22.120 --> 01:50:24.007
how do you spell that?
2585
01:50:24.007 --> 01:50:24.840
Tell us that again.
2586
01:50:24.840 --> 01:50:28.060
Christine, C-h-r-i-s-t-i-n-e.
2587
01:50:28.060 --> 01:50:30.200
Last name is Ardis.
2588
01:50:30.200 --> 01:50:32.150
A-r-d-i-s.
2589
01:50:32.150 --> 01:50:33.050
A-r-d-i-s.
2590
01:50:33.050 --> 01:50:33.950
Okay.
2591
01:50:33.950 --> 01:50:34.850
Is there a second?
2592
01:50:37.650 --> 01:50:39.049
Calling.
2593
01:50:39.049 --> 01:50:39.882
Okay, so, there's a second.
2594
01:50:39.882 --> 01:50:41.190
Motion's been made and seconded
2595
01:50:41.190 --> 01:50:45.553
to amend the recommendation to add Christine Ardis.
2596
01:50:46.650 --> 01:50:48.290
Any discussion?
2597
01:50:48.290 --> 01:50:49.440
Mister Chair.
2598
01:50:51.700 --> 01:50:53.250
Miss Hardy first and then Doctor Ellis.
2599
01:50:53.250 --> 01:50:55.810
I thought the reason that we went with
2600
01:50:55.810 --> 01:50:57.770
the names that we did was that
2601
01:50:57.770 --> 01:51:01.200
the names that we put forth had education
2602
01:51:01.200 --> 01:51:05.797
and financial expertise.
2603
01:51:07.830 --> 01:51:10.880
And that was why we selected the ones that we did.
2604
01:51:10.880 --> 01:51:11.773
Is that correct?
2605
01:51:12.730 --> 01:51:14.114
That's my recollection.
2606
01:51:14.114 --> 01:51:15.240
Okay.
2607
01:51:15.240 --> 01:51:16.160
Doctor Ellis.
2608
01:51:16.160 --> 01:51:18.440
I'd actually say it wasn't because they had education.
2609
01:51:18.440 --> 01:51:20.960
There's actually separate seats on the board for educators.
2610
01:51:20.960 --> 01:51:22.950
These specific seats that we have
2611
01:51:22.950 --> 01:51:25.140
are for people with business, financial,
2612
01:51:25.140 --> 01:51:27.810
and, specifically, investment experience.
2613
01:51:27.810 --> 01:51:28.980
And I think that's why.
2614
01:51:28.980 --> 01:51:31.707
And, to the maker of the amendment.
2615
01:51:31.707 --> 01:51:34.820
I know that Mister Cortez was maybe the one that
2616
01:51:34.820 --> 01:51:35.690
was bringing this forward.
2617
01:51:35.690 --> 01:51:36.523
So, you may not know.
2618
01:51:36.523 --> 01:51:38.780
But can you outline specifically how you feel
2619
01:51:38.780 --> 01:51:40.030
they meet those criteria?
2620
01:51:42.500 --> 01:51:45.440
Yes, I feel as though this individual,
2621
01:51:45.440 --> 01:51:47.280
though they don't have, I guess,
2622
01:51:47.280 --> 01:51:48.550
the level that we were looking for
2623
01:51:48.550 --> 01:51:50.750
in terms of the investment background,
2624
01:51:50.750 --> 01:51:53.248
we also had another individual, Miss Nellie Ingraham,
2625
01:51:53.248 --> 01:51:56.971
who's an educator and who has some experience.
2626
01:51:56.971 --> 01:51:59.660
I would say we were looking to send a list
2627
01:51:59.660 --> 01:52:00.890
over to the governor's office.
2628
01:52:00.890 --> 01:52:03.200
And so, you know, ultimately,
2629
01:52:03.200 --> 01:52:04.520
the State Board of Education doesn't have
2630
01:52:04.520 --> 01:52:06.360
any authority over this decision.
2631
01:52:06.360 --> 01:52:07.193
I'd just like to make sure that
2632
01:52:07.193 --> 01:52:10.270
we're being inclusive of the different individuals
2633
01:52:10.270 --> 01:52:11.670
that were being recommended.
2634
01:52:14.677 --> 01:52:17.053
Any further discussion?
2635
01:52:18.650 --> 01:52:19.613
Ready for a vote?
2636
01:52:21.118 --> 01:52:24.230
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10.
2637
01:52:24.230 --> 01:52:25.431
Okay, we've got 10.
2638
01:52:25.431 --> 01:52:26.590
Vote on the amendment.
2639
01:52:26.590 --> 01:52:27.750
I was counting how many we have.
2640
01:52:27.750 --> 01:52:29.381
11, 12.
2641
01:52:29.381 --> 01:52:31.530
Okay, the motion before the floor
2642
01:52:31.530 --> 01:52:36.410
is an amendment to add Christine Ardis to the list.
2643
01:52:36.410 --> 01:52:39.980
Or Ardis to the list of recommended seats
2644
01:52:41.480 --> 01:52:42.480
for the Teacher Retirement.
2645
01:52:42.480 --> 01:52:44.060
We vote yes if we want to add her in?
2646
01:52:44.060 --> 01:52:45.520
Yes, that's correct.
2647
01:52:45.520 --> 01:52:48.759
Okay, all in favor, signify by saying aye.
2648
01:52:48.759 --> 01:52:49.592
Aye.
2649
01:52:49.592 --> 01:52:50.765
All opposed, no.
2650
01:52:50.765 --> 01:52:51.870
No.
2651
01:52:51.870 --> 01:52:54.140
Okay, show of hands.
2652
01:52:54.140 --> 01:52:56.270
All in favor, signify by raising your hand.
2653
01:52:56.270 --> 01:52:57.833
Mister Rowley.
2654
01:52:57.833 --> 01:52:58.738
What?
2655
01:52:58.738 --> 01:52:59.930
Which hand would you like?
2656
01:52:59.930 --> 01:53:02.450
The hand of your choice.
2657
01:53:02.450 --> 01:53:05.433
All in favor, signify by raising the hand of your choice.
2658
01:53:07.360 --> 01:53:08.193
One, two.
2659
01:53:09.290 --> 01:53:11.880
Those were a very vocal two people.
2660
01:53:11.880 --> 01:53:13.230
Okay, two.
2661
01:53:13.230 --> 01:53:16.170
All opposed, signify by raising the hand of your choice.
2662
01:53:16.170 --> 01:53:20.340
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
2663
01:53:20.340 --> 01:53:23.810
Okay, so, the motion fails.
2664
01:53:23.810 --> 01:53:25.050
It's not amended.
2665
01:53:25.050 --> 01:53:29.130
So, now currently before us is the recommendation
2666
01:53:29.130 --> 01:53:32.973
of David Corpus, Ysrael Valencia, Nellie Ingraham,
2667
01:53:34.320 --> 01:53:38.410
as recommended by the Committee of the Full Board.
2668
01:53:38.410 --> 01:53:39.713
Any further discussion?
2669
01:53:40.660 --> 01:53:41.570
Ready to vote.
2670
01:53:41.570 --> 01:53:43.850
All in favor signify by saying aye.
2671
01:53:43.850 --> 01:53:44.683
Aye.
2672
01:53:44.683 --> 01:53:45.516
All opposed, no.
2673
01:53:46.810 --> 01:53:47.643
Motion carries.
2674
01:53:47.643 --> 01:53:50.400
That takes care, I believe,
2675
01:53:50.400 --> 01:53:52.290
of the Committee of the Full Board.
2676
01:53:52.290 --> 01:53:54.100
Correct, Mister Maynard?
2677
01:53:54.100 --> 01:53:55.640
Okay, Committee on Instruction.
2678
01:53:55.640 --> 01:53:57.573
Miss Melton-Malone, please.
2679
01:53:58.910 --> 01:53:59.743
Yes, sir.
2680
01:53:59.743 --> 01:54:00.670
Thank you, mister chair.
2681
01:54:01.590 --> 01:54:03.060
If you'll get out your minutes
2682
01:54:03.060 --> 01:54:04.987
for the Committee on Instruction,
2683
01:54:04.987 --> 01:54:09.763
the first one is on page one.
2684
01:54:13.220 --> 01:54:15.200
On behalf of the Committee on Instruction,
2685
01:54:15.200 --> 01:54:17.100
I move that the State Board of Education
2686
01:54:17.100 --> 01:54:19.607
approve for second reading and final adoption
2687
01:54:19.607 --> 01:54:23.390
the proposed amendment to 19TAC chapter 74,
2688
01:54:23.390 --> 01:54:27.440
curriculum requirements, subchapter A, required curriculum,
2689
01:54:27.440 --> 01:54:30.870
74.6, college and career readiness
2690
01:54:30.870 --> 01:54:33.649
and TEKS essential knowledge and skills alignment,
2691
01:54:33.649 --> 01:54:36.570
and make an affirmative finding that
2692
01:54:36.570 --> 01:54:38.960
immediate adoption of the proposed amendment
2693
01:54:38.960 --> 01:54:43.180
to 19TAC chapter 74, curriculum requirements,
2694
01:54:43.180 --> 01:54:45.650
subchapter A, required curriculum,
2695
01:54:45.650 --> 01:54:48.898
74.6, college and career readiness
2696
01:54:48.898 --> 01:54:51.810
and TEKS essential knowledge and skills alignment,
2697
01:54:51.810 --> 01:54:54.750
is necessary and shall have an effective date
2698
01:54:54.750 --> 01:54:58.736
of 20 days after filing as adopted with the Texas Register.
2699
01:54:58.736 --> 01:55:00.544
Okay, thank you, Miss Melton-Malone.
2700
01:55:00.544 --> 01:55:01.510
I'm sorry.
2701
01:55:01.510 --> 01:55:04.960
Can we have 60 seconds to get organized for this item?
2702
01:55:04.960 --> 01:55:05.793
Certainly.
2703
01:55:05.793 --> 01:55:06.790
Thank you.
2704
01:55:06.790 --> 01:55:09.510
And, while that's being done,
2705
01:55:09.510 --> 01:55:10.710
those of you who have signed up
2706
01:55:10.710 --> 01:55:13.190
for the open testimony,
2707
01:55:13.190 --> 01:55:15.858
I apologize for all the time that we've taken.
2708
01:55:15.858 --> 01:55:17.390
But we will get to you here.
2709
01:55:17.390 --> 01:55:19.520
It won't be but just a few minutes.
2710
01:55:19.520 --> 01:55:21.995
And we'll have you.
2711
01:55:21.995 --> 01:55:23.930
I don't think we've got enough time to insert you right now.
2712
01:55:23.930 --> 01:55:26.730
So, it'll just be a few minutes.
2713
01:55:29.555 --> 01:55:32.805
Okay, I thought there was someone else.
2714
01:56:28.820 --> 01:56:31.530
Mister chair, while we're in this little thing.
2715
01:56:31.530 --> 01:56:32.363
Yes.
2716
01:56:32.363 --> 01:56:34.000
The lady that.
2717
01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:36.810
We have this information on Lyme disease on our desk.
2718
01:56:36.810 --> 01:56:39.753
And the lady that was going to speak,
2719
01:56:39.753 --> 01:56:41.200
because she lost he daughter to Lyme disease,
2720
01:56:41.200 --> 01:56:42.490
she had to leave.
2721
01:56:42.490 --> 01:56:44.780
So, I think it'd be courteous for us to read this.
2722
01:56:44.780 --> 01:56:48.080
And maybe make sure the health committee's take a look.
2723
01:56:48.080 --> 01:56:48.913
Because.
2724
01:56:49.938 --> 01:56:50.862
It's very important to her.
2725
01:56:50.862 --> 01:56:53.035
I thought it was very sweet that she was here.
2726
01:56:53.035 --> 01:56:54.720
But she had to go.
2727
01:56:54.720 --> 01:56:57.230
Thank you for pointing that out.
2728
01:56:58.282 --> 01:57:00.137
Yes, Miss Hardy.
2729
01:57:00.137 --> 01:57:02.804
(sound cut out)
2730
01:57:08.990 --> 01:57:10.560
On the increase.
2731
01:57:10.560 --> 01:57:13.030
And it's one of those things that
2732
01:57:13.030 --> 01:57:15.327
very few people know about.
2733
01:57:15.327 --> 01:57:17.610
And, in her situation,
2734
01:57:17.610 --> 01:57:19.230
if the teacher had just known to
2735
01:57:19.230 --> 01:57:20.650
send the child to the nurse,
2736
01:57:20.650 --> 01:57:23.750
that would have been all the difference in the world.
2737
01:57:23.750 --> 01:57:26.040
But I would hope.
2738
01:57:26.040 --> 01:57:28.440
And I will be talking to people from my district
2739
01:57:28.440 --> 01:57:29.830
who are gonna be on the health committee,
2740
01:57:29.830 --> 01:57:32.280
somehow or another, to get that in, too.
2741
01:57:32.280 --> 01:57:34.490
So that people can be aware.
2742
01:57:34.490 --> 01:57:37.000
And, also, I've been trying to encourage her
2743
01:57:37.000 --> 01:57:40.240
to get in touch with Tasby,
2744
01:57:40.240 --> 01:57:43.960
because they do an intro at the beginning of school
2745
01:57:43.960 --> 01:57:45.520
to make people aware of things.
2746
01:57:45.520 --> 01:57:48.274
And I'm hoping that that'll fit into that, too.
2747
01:57:48.274 --> 01:57:49.107
Very important.
2748
01:57:49.107 --> 01:57:51.583
Okay, so, are we ready to proceed with this item?
2749
01:57:52.690 --> 01:57:54.356
Yes, sir, we are. Thank you very much.
2750
01:57:54.356 --> 01:57:56.230
Okay, so, are there any amendments?
2751
01:57:56.230 --> 01:57:58.000
Or we're taking it as is?
2752
01:57:58.000 --> 01:57:58.833
Miss Perez.
2753
01:58:00.410 --> 01:58:02.740
I move to amend the English language arts alignment chart
2754
01:58:02.740 --> 01:58:05.100
to reflect feedback from TCTELA and CREST
2755
01:58:05.100 --> 01:58:08.480
regarding CCRS standards 2D-2 and 2D-3.
2756
01:58:08.480 --> 01:58:10.810
Only student expectations and authorized staff
2757
01:58:10.810 --> 01:58:12.193
to make technical edits.
2758
01:58:13.044 --> 01:58:15.173
Okay, is there a second?
2759
01:58:15.173 --> 01:58:16.006
Second.
2760
01:58:16.006 --> 01:58:19.590
Okay, any discussion on that?
2761
01:58:19.590 --> 01:58:21.020
Maybe a brief explanation.
2762
01:58:21.020 --> 01:58:24.890
I think the idea was that there were CCRS standards
2763
01:58:24.890 --> 01:58:28.810
on the crosswalk alignment document that were blank.
2764
01:58:28.810 --> 01:58:32.090
But that there was feedback provided via email
2765
01:58:32.090 --> 01:58:34.450
from the testifiers that we had on Wednesday
2766
01:58:34.450 --> 01:58:37.290
to fill in the student expectations
2767
01:58:37.290 --> 01:58:40.560
that line up with the CCRS.
2768
01:58:40.560 --> 01:58:41.652
That's it.
2769
01:58:41.652 --> 01:58:42.523
That's exactly.
2770
01:58:42.523 --> 01:58:45.440
And that's what Miss Perez's motion entails.
2771
01:58:45.440 --> 01:58:46.990
Okay, any discussion?
2772
01:58:46.990 --> 01:58:49.767
Further conversation about that.
2773
01:58:49.767 --> 01:58:51.290
Okay, all in favor of that amendment,
2774
01:58:51.290 --> 01:58:52.813
signify by saying aye.
2775
01:58:52.813 --> 01:58:53.646
Aye.
2776
01:58:53.646 --> 01:58:54.693
All opposed, no.
2777
01:58:55.750 --> 01:58:57.130
Okay, let's see.
2778
01:58:57.130 --> 01:58:59.730
This is a 2/3 vote.
2779
01:58:59.730 --> 01:59:01.223
So, the motion before us then
2780
01:59:01.223 --> 01:59:04.231
was the one stated by Miss Melton-Malone.
2781
01:59:04.231 --> 01:59:06.587
Reiterate it.
2782
01:59:06.587 --> 01:59:10.780
Okay, any further discussion on it?
2783
01:59:10.780 --> 01:59:13.513
All in favor, signify by raising your hand.
2784
01:59:14.595 --> 01:59:15.428
Any hand.
2785
01:59:17.090 --> 01:59:20.820
All opposed, same sign.
2786
01:59:20.820 --> 01:59:23.320
Okay, motion unanimously passed.
2787
01:59:23.320 --> 01:59:24.500
So, there was a 2/3 vote.
2788
01:59:24.500 --> 01:59:25.830
Okay, Miss Melton-Malone.
2789
01:59:25.830 --> 01:59:27.910
Yes, so, page number two.
2790
01:59:27.910 --> 01:59:29.320
Item number two.
2791
01:59:29.320 --> 01:59:31.030
On behalf of the Committee on Instruction,
2792
01:59:31.030 --> 01:59:32.453
I move that the State Board of Education
2793
01:59:32.453 --> 01:59:34.812
approve for second reading and filing adoption
2794
01:59:34.812 --> 01:59:38.940
the proposed amendment to 19TAC chapter 74,
2795
01:59:38.940 --> 01:59:40.540
curriculum requirements,
2796
01:59:40.540 --> 01:59:43.000
subchapter B, graduation requirements,
2797
01:59:43.000 --> 01:59:46.610
74.11, high school graduation requirements,
2798
01:59:46.610 --> 01:59:49.170
and make an affirmative finding that
2799
01:59:49.170 --> 01:59:51.460
immediate adoption of the proposed amendment
2800
01:59:51.460 --> 01:59:55.750
to 19TAC chapter 74, curriculum requirements,
2801
01:59:55.750 --> 01:59:58.220
subchapter B, graduation requirements,
2802
01:59:58.220 --> 02:00:02.570
74.11, high school graduation requirements,
2803
02:00:02.570 --> 02:00:04.930
is necessary and shall have an effective date
2804
02:00:04.930 --> 02:00:07.253
of August 26, 2019.
2805
02:00:08.780 --> 02:00:10.713
Any further discussion on this item?
2806
02:00:12.580 --> 02:00:14.363
Hearing none, we'll proceed to a vote.
2807
02:00:14.363 --> 02:00:16.150
This takes a 2/3 vote.
2808
02:00:16.150 --> 02:00:17.370
So, all in favor of that,
2809
02:00:17.370 --> 02:00:20.981
signify by putting your head down on your desk.
2810
02:00:20.981 --> 02:00:21.843
No, I'm kidding.
2811
02:00:21.843 --> 02:00:22.970
(laughter)
2812
02:00:22.970 --> 02:00:24.550
Raise your right hand.
2813
02:00:26.330 --> 02:00:27.163
Actually, we can do that.
2814
02:00:27.163 --> 02:00:27.996
Can't we, Kay?
2815
02:00:27.996 --> 02:00:29.102
You can do any way you want.
2816
02:00:29.102 --> 02:00:31.327
I thought that's right.
2817
02:00:31.327 --> 02:00:33.790
Yeah, any sign you want.
2818
02:00:33.790 --> 02:00:36.190
As long as he tells you what it is.
2819
02:00:36.190 --> 02:00:37.023
And I did.
2820
02:00:37.023 --> 02:00:37.990
But the motion passed.
2821
02:00:37.990 --> 02:00:39.500
There was a unanimous.
2822
02:00:39.500 --> 02:00:40.333
Okay.
2823
02:00:43.030 --> 02:00:43.930
Could be anything.
2824
02:00:46.086 --> 02:00:48.063
All in favor, do this.
2825
02:00:49.200 --> 02:00:51.960
All right, so, Miss Melton-Malone.
2826
02:00:51.960 --> 02:00:53.250
The bottom of page two.
2827
02:00:53.250 --> 02:00:54.240
Item number three.
2828
02:00:54.240 --> 02:00:55.970
On behalf of the Committee on Instruction,
2829
02:00:55.970 --> 02:00:57.767
I move that the State Board of Education
2830
02:00:57.767 --> 02:01:00.640
approve for second reading and filing adoption
2831
02:01:00.640 --> 02:01:04.620
proposed revisions to 19TAC chapter 111,
2832
02:01:04.620 --> 02:01:07.070
TEKS essential knowledge and skills for mathematics,
2833
02:01:07.070 --> 02:01:10.690
subchapter D, other high school mathematics courses,
2834
02:01:10.690 --> 02:01:12.470
and make an affirmative finding that
2835
02:01:12.470 --> 02:01:16.070
immediate adoption of proposed revisions to 19TAC
2836
02:01:16.070 --> 02:01:18.790
chapter 111, TEKS essential knowledge
2837
02:01:18.790 --> 02:01:20.150
and skills for mathematics,
2838
02:01:20.150 --> 02:01:23.580
subchapter D, other high school mathematics courses,
2839
02:01:23.580 --> 02:01:26.810
is necessary and shall have an effective date
2840
02:01:26.810 --> 02:01:28.160
of August 1, 2019.
2841
02:01:30.534 --> 02:01:33.150
Okay, any discussion on this item?
2842
02:01:33.150 --> 02:01:34.400
Takes a 2/3 vote.
2843
02:01:34.400 --> 02:01:37.813
All in favor, signify by standing where you are.
2844
02:01:39.211 --> 02:01:41.461
(laughter)
2845
02:01:42.970 --> 02:01:46.630
Okay, all right, motion passes unanimously.
2846
02:01:46.630 --> 02:01:48.468
2/3 vote, very good.
2847
02:01:48.468 --> 02:01:49.853
Okay.
2848
02:01:49.853 --> 02:01:50.686
Member Rowley.
2849
02:01:50.686 --> 02:01:51.683
Yes.
2850
02:01:51.683 --> 02:01:52.730
Excuse me.
2851
02:01:52.730 --> 02:01:54.280
It's Acting Chairperson Rowley.
2852
02:01:55.451 --> 02:01:57.440
Okay, Miss Melton-Malone.
2853
02:01:57.440 --> 02:01:58.350
Please continue.
2854
02:01:58.350 --> 02:02:00.259
Page three, item number four.
2855
02:02:00.259 --> 02:02:02.920
On behalf of the Committee on Instruction,
2856
02:02:02.920 --> 02:02:04.313
I move that the State Board of Education
2857
02:02:04.313 --> 02:02:06.811
approve for second reading and filing adoption
2858
02:02:06.811 --> 02:02:09.710
the proposed amendment to 19TAC
2859
02:02:09.710 --> 02:02:12.660
chapter 114, TEKS essential knowledge
2860
02:02:12.660 --> 02:02:14.940
and skills for languages other than English,
2861
02:02:14.940 --> 02:02:16.867
subchapter C, high school,
2862
02:02:16.867 --> 02:02:20.560
114.53, advanced language for
2863
02:02:20.560 --> 02:02:22.560
career applications one credit,
2864
02:02:22.560 --> 02:02:25.050
and make an affirmative finding that
2865
02:02:25.050 --> 02:02:27.210
immediate adoption of the proposed amendment
2866
02:02:27.210 --> 02:02:29.780
to 19TAC chapter 114,
2867
02:02:29.780 --> 02:02:31.870
TEKS essential knowledge and skills
2868
02:02:31.870 --> 02:02:33.480
for languages other than English,
2869
02:02:33.480 --> 02:02:35.630
subchapter C, high school,
2870
02:02:35.630 --> 02:02:38.840
114.53, advanced language for
2871
02:02:38.840 --> 02:02:40.790
career applications one credit,
2872
02:02:40.790 --> 02:02:43.270
is necessary and shall have an effective date
2873
02:02:43.270 --> 02:02:45.990
of August 26, 2019.
2874
02:02:45.990 --> 02:02:48.577
Okay, any discussion on this item?
2875
02:02:48.577 --> 02:02:52.333
All in favor, signify by waving at the chair.
2876
02:02:55.540 --> 02:02:57.270
All opposed.
2877
02:02:57.270 --> 02:02:58.620
Motion carries by 2/3 vote.
2878
02:03:00.410 --> 02:03:01.460
Thank you, Miss Melton-Malone.
2879
02:03:01.460 --> 02:03:02.293
Is that all your items?
2880
02:03:02.293 --> 02:03:03.900
No, I'm not doe yet.
2881
02:03:06.100 --> 02:03:09.763
Page four, item number six.
2882
02:03:10.740 --> 02:03:12.740
On behalf of the Committee on Instruction,
2883
02:03:12.740 --> 02:03:14.620
I move that the State Board of Education
2884
02:03:14.620 --> 02:03:16.610
suspend the board operating procedures
2885
02:03:16.610 --> 02:03:21.160
in accordance with 5.2a to allow consideration
2886
02:03:21.160 --> 02:03:23.410
and a first reading and filing authorization
2887
02:03:23.410 --> 02:03:26.091
and approve for first reading and filing authorization
2888
02:03:26.091 --> 02:03:29.310
the proposed amendment to 19TAC
2889
02:03:29.310 --> 02:03:32.240
chapter 74, curriculum requirements,
2890
02:03:32.240 --> 02:03:34.370
subchapter C, other provisions,
2891
02:03:34.370 --> 02:03:39.370
74.28, students with dyslexia and related disorders.
2892
02:03:39.800 --> 02:03:41.540
So, it does take a 2/3 vote
2893
02:03:41.540 --> 02:03:44.660
to suspend our board operating procedures.
2894
02:03:44.660 --> 02:03:46.170
Do we vote on all of that at once?
2895
02:03:46.170 --> 02:03:47.840
The suspension and the motion?
2896
02:03:47.840 --> 02:03:50.280
Okay, any discussion on that?
2897
02:03:50.280 --> 02:03:53.230
All in favor, signify by raising your hand.
2898
02:03:53.230 --> 02:03:54.230
'Cause we're boring.
2899
02:03:55.110 --> 02:03:56.650
All opposed.
2900
02:03:56.650 --> 02:03:58.023
Motion passes.
2901
02:03:59.296 --> 02:04:00.850
All right, still on page four.
2902
02:04:00.850 --> 02:04:02.522
Item number seven.
2903
02:04:02.522 --> 02:04:04.920
On behalf of the Committee on Instruction,
2904
02:04:04.920 --> 02:04:06.543
I move that the State Board of Education
2905
02:04:06.543 --> 02:04:08.892
approve the following innovative courses
2906
02:04:08.892 --> 02:04:11.950
that do not fall within any of the subject areas
2907
02:04:11.950 --> 02:04:14.900
of the foundation or enrichment curriculum.
2908
02:04:14.900 --> 02:04:16.550
Community transportation,
2909
02:04:16.550 --> 02:04:19.270
to be approved for a period of two years,
2910
02:04:19.270 --> 02:04:20.560
and peer assistance for
2911
02:04:20.560 --> 02:04:23.240
students with disabilities one and two,
2912
02:04:23.240 --> 02:04:26.420
to be approved for a renewal period of three years.
2913
02:04:26.420 --> 02:04:29.293
Okay, any discussion on this item?
2914
02:04:30.680 --> 02:04:33.305
All in favor, signify by saying aye.
2915
02:04:33.305 --> 02:04:34.170
Aye.
2916
02:04:34.170 --> 02:04:35.865
All opposed.
2917
02:04:35.865 --> 02:04:36.883
Motion carries.
2918
02:04:37.999 --> 02:04:39.773
I got two more.
2919
02:04:40.979 --> 02:04:43.400
It starts on the bottom of page four.
2920
02:04:43.400 --> 02:04:44.620
It's item number eight.
2921
02:04:44.620 --> 02:04:46.577
On behalf of the Committee on Instruction,
2922
02:04:46.577 --> 02:04:49.180
I move that the State Board of Education
2923
02:04:49.180 --> 02:04:51.590
approve the request from ThinkCERCA
2924
02:04:51.590 --> 02:04:55.720
to update ThinkCERCA Texas Edition Grade Six,
2925
02:04:55.720 --> 02:04:58.830
ThinkCERCA Texas Edition Grade Seven,
2926
02:04:58.830 --> 02:05:02.830
and ThinkCERCA Teas Edition Grade Eight.
2927
02:05:02.830 --> 02:05:07.680
Adopted in November 2018 under proclamation 2019.
2928
02:05:07.680 --> 02:05:10.630
Provided that members of the Committee on Instruction
2929
02:05:10.630 --> 02:05:13.718
are provided access to the online materials
2930
02:05:13.718 --> 02:05:16.950
and that the matter be placed on the September agenda
2931
02:05:16.950 --> 02:05:20.500
to allow the committee to confirm that changes were made.
2932
02:05:20.500 --> 02:05:22.690
Okay, an explanation of that, Miss Melton.
2933
02:05:22.690 --> 02:05:24.650
Yes, this is company.
2934
02:05:24.650 --> 02:05:29.550
It came to us back in April, I believe.
2935
02:05:29.550 --> 02:05:33.950
And submitted some material that was very inappropriate
2936
02:05:33.950 --> 02:05:35.790
in the reading selections.
2937
02:05:35.790 --> 02:05:39.840
And, at that time, we decided to ask them
2938
02:05:39.840 --> 02:05:41.880
to update their information
2939
02:05:41.880 --> 02:05:43.780
and get us some new material.
2940
02:05:43.780 --> 02:05:45.890
And make sure that we thought
2941
02:05:45.890 --> 02:05:49.620
everything was developmentally and age appropriate.
2942
02:05:49.620 --> 02:05:53.970
And they sent us in some other material
2943
02:05:53.970 --> 02:05:56.253
for this particular meeting.
2944
02:05:58.290 --> 02:06:00.260
We're a little skeptical about it.
2945
02:06:00.260 --> 02:06:02.400
The material looked good.
2946
02:06:02.400 --> 02:06:05.167
The problem that we're thinking of is that
2947
02:06:06.710 --> 02:06:08.890
we want to be sure that they're going to
2948
02:06:08.890 --> 02:06:11.270
make the changes that we've asked them to make.
2949
02:06:11.270 --> 02:06:13.730
And we have no assurance of that.
2950
02:06:13.730 --> 02:06:18.570
And we had asked the people who testified in April
2951
02:06:18.570 --> 02:06:20.280
to send us information so that
2952
02:06:20.280 --> 02:06:21.890
we could go onto the website.
2953
02:06:21.890 --> 02:06:24.283
And we did not get it.
2954
02:06:24.283 --> 02:06:26.990
And so, we were skeptical,
2955
02:06:26.990 --> 02:06:31.500
because we want to be sure those changes get made.
2956
02:06:31.500 --> 02:06:35.597
And that the material in the text
2957
02:06:37.390 --> 02:06:40.520
is appropriate for our school age children.
2958
02:06:40.520 --> 02:06:41.353
Very good.
2959
02:06:41.353 --> 02:06:42.556
So, it will be placed on
2960
02:06:42.556 --> 02:06:45.083
the Committee of Instruction agenda in September.
2961
02:06:45.083 --> 02:06:46.428
In September, right.
2962
02:06:46.428 --> 02:06:48.380
Any questions or comments?
2963
02:06:48.380 --> 02:06:49.833
Discussion about that item?
2964
02:06:50.950 --> 02:06:53.020
All in favor, signify by saying aye.
2965
02:06:53.020 --> 02:06:53.853
Aye.
2966
02:06:53.853 --> 02:06:55.057
Opposed, no.
2967
02:06:55.057 --> 02:06:56.800
Motion carries.
2968
02:06:56.800 --> 02:06:58.060
And one last one.
2969
02:06:58.060 --> 02:07:00.850
On page five, number nine.
2970
02:07:00.850 --> 02:07:03.020
On behalf of the Committee on Instruction,
2971
02:07:03.020 --> 02:07:04.980
I move that the State Board of Education
2972
02:07:04.980 --> 02:07:07.120
approve the updates to the Texas State Plan
2973
02:07:07.120 --> 02:07:10.414
for the Education of Gifted Talented Students.
2974
02:07:10.414 --> 02:07:13.270
Any questions or discussion?
2975
02:07:13.270 --> 02:07:15.349
All in favor, signify by saying aye.
2976
02:07:15.349 --> 02:07:16.182
Aye.
2977
02:07:16.182 --> 02:07:17.870
Opposed, no.
2978
02:07:17.870 --> 02:07:18.703
Motion carried.
2979
02:07:18.703 --> 02:07:19.620
That's all I have.
2980
02:07:19.620 --> 02:07:21.040
Thank you, Miss Melton-Malone.
2981
02:07:21.040 --> 02:07:25.150
Mister Maynard, permanent school fund finance.
2982
02:07:27.490 --> 02:07:31.515
Mister chair, we have got one finance item.
2983
02:07:31.515 --> 02:07:32.978
If you find.
2984
02:07:32.978 --> 02:07:36.830
Our minutes are usually split.
2985
02:07:36.830 --> 02:07:39.273
Find one that says school finance item.
2986
02:07:40.290 --> 02:07:44.220
And, on behalf of the Committee on School Finance
2987
02:07:44.220 --> 02:07:45.520
and Permanent School Fund,
2988
02:07:47.440 --> 02:07:49.300
move that the State Board of Education
2989
02:07:49.300 --> 02:07:51.400
approve for second reading and final adoption
2990
02:07:51.400 --> 02:07:53.920
the proposed amendment to 19TAC
2991
02:07:53.920 --> 02:07:57.010
chapter 109, budgeting, accounting, and auditing,
2992
02:07:57.010 --> 02:07:59.310
subchapter C, adoptions by reference,
2993
02:07:59.310 --> 02:08:02.570
109.41, financial accountability
2994
02:08:02.570 --> 02:08:03.670
system resource guide,
2995
02:08:03.670 --> 02:08:06.060
and make an affirmative finding that
2996
02:08:06.060 --> 02:08:08.010
immediate adoption of the proposed amendment
2997
02:08:08.010 --> 02:08:13.010
to 19TAC chapter 109, budgeting, accounting, and auditing,
2998
02:08:13.410 --> 02:08:17.020
subchapter C, adoptions by reference,
2999
02:08:17.020 --> 02:08:20.390
109.41, financial accountability system resource guide
3000
02:08:20.390 --> 02:08:23.180
is necessary and shall have an effective date
3001
02:08:23.180 --> 02:08:27.073
of 20 days after filing as adopted with the Texas Register.
3002
02:08:28.013 --> 02:08:29.523
Any discussion?
3003
02:08:30.610 --> 02:08:31.763
Questions about that?
3004
02:08:33.160 --> 02:08:34.030
All in favor.
3005
02:08:34.030 --> 02:08:34.920
Takes a 2/3 vote.
3006
02:08:34.920 --> 02:08:37.410
Signify by raising both hands.
3007
02:08:37.410 --> 02:08:38.603
Like I surrender.
3008
02:08:39.696 --> 02:08:42.100
(laughter)
3009
02:08:42.100 --> 02:08:44.330
Everybody's surrendered?
3010
02:08:44.330 --> 02:08:46.263
Motion passes by 2/3 vote.
3011
02:08:47.239 --> 02:08:52.150
Mister chairman, just a few things are just worth noting,
3012
02:08:52.150 --> 02:08:55.540
because most of what we did went on the consent agenda.
3013
02:08:55.540 --> 02:09:00.009
But we did have a discussion about
3014
02:09:00.009 --> 02:09:03.363
emerging and diverse managers.
3015
02:09:04.530 --> 02:09:07.800
And, actually, that's an important discussion,
3016
02:09:07.800 --> 02:09:10.620
because, as it turns out, it's really good business.
3017
02:09:10.620 --> 02:09:15.140
Sometimes, big funds, we tend to get into a lane,
3018
02:09:15.140 --> 02:09:16.420
into a groove.
3019
02:09:16.420 --> 02:09:19.673
And, as it turns out, a lot of the smaller ones,
3020
02:09:19.673 --> 02:09:24.673
smaller, emerging managers, are a little hungrier.
3021
02:09:25.192 --> 02:09:27.090
More aggressive.
3022
02:09:27.090 --> 02:09:29.380
I'd just encourage the members to look at that,
3023
02:09:29.380 --> 02:09:32.573
because we put it on the very front end of our meeting.
3024
02:09:33.482 --> 02:09:37.360
Secondly is that we began the implementation
3025
02:09:37.360 --> 02:09:38.851
of the liquid fund.
3026
02:09:38.851 --> 02:09:41.160
At least the early piece of that.
3027
02:09:41.160 --> 02:09:43.890
To address the cash drag on the school land board.
3028
02:09:43.890 --> 02:09:44.723
And so that's something.
3029
02:09:44.723 --> 02:09:46.450
And then also worth noting.
3030
02:09:46.450 --> 02:09:47.922
We always talk about the school.
3031
02:09:47.922 --> 02:09:50.576
The bond guarantee program.
3032
02:09:50.576 --> 02:09:54.910
And, currently, we've been at 117 billion for some time,
3033
02:09:54.910 --> 02:09:57.183
'cause that's what the IRS allows us to do.
3034
02:09:58.090 --> 02:10:00.140
It takes about two years to expand that.
3035
02:10:00.140 --> 02:10:02.370
And so, we're about to begin that process
3036
02:10:02.370 --> 02:10:05.151
of looking to expand that.
3037
02:10:05.151 --> 02:10:08.740
There was a discussion on asset allocation.
3038
02:10:08.740 --> 02:10:09.940
We took no action on that.
3039
02:10:09.940 --> 02:10:13.180
We have a more formal review of that in about a year.
3040
02:10:13.180 --> 02:10:14.910
Okay, very good.
3041
02:10:14.910 --> 02:10:16.500
Thank you, Mister Maynard.
3042
02:10:16.500 --> 02:10:19.763
We have testifiers who have come from general session.
3043
02:10:21.980 --> 02:10:24.041
Jeanette Lafevers.
3044
02:10:24.041 --> 02:10:27.453
Lafevers, there you go.
3045
02:10:28.520 --> 02:10:31.050
And then Robert Satchel.
3046
02:10:31.050 --> 02:10:32.563
Is Mister Satchel here?
3047
02:10:34.360 --> 02:10:39.360
Okay, then, Sandra West would follow Miss Lafevers.
3048
02:10:41.560 --> 02:10:44.260
Thank you for having me here today.
3049
02:10:45.344 --> 02:10:47.560
And thank you for the actions that you've taken on behalf of
3050
02:10:47.560 --> 02:10:49.560
the international baccalaureate students
3051
02:10:49.560 --> 02:10:51.230
in the state of Texas.
3052
02:10:51.230 --> 02:10:55.440
I am handing out to you just a quick reminder
3053
02:10:55.440 --> 02:10:57.597
of the remaining issue that we have.
3054
02:10:57.597 --> 02:11:01.120
And that has to do with the fine arts,
3055
02:11:01.120 --> 02:11:03.100
the IB fine arts other than film.
3056
02:11:03.100 --> 02:11:05.990
And I have them listed for you on the front of this page.
3057
02:11:05.990 --> 02:11:08.420
And then what we believe needs.
3058
02:11:08.420 --> 02:11:12.110
What actions need to still be taking place.
3059
02:11:12.110 --> 02:11:14.040
These are the only IB courses that
3060
02:11:14.040 --> 02:11:16.500
have not been granted the two credits.
3061
02:11:16.500 --> 02:11:18.768
I also notice, in the rule text,
3062
02:11:18.768 --> 02:11:22.957
that there was language in chapter 117
3063
02:11:22.957 --> 02:11:26.300
that talks about some prerequisites that
3064
02:11:26.300 --> 02:11:29.990
the IB courses do not have prerequisites for.
3065
02:11:29.990 --> 02:11:33.290
And I've given some proposed languages.
3066
02:11:33.290 --> 02:11:36.560
Some proposed language that could be used
3067
02:11:36.560 --> 02:11:38.720
on the pages that follow.
3068
02:11:38.720 --> 02:11:41.286
And, in chapter 74, it would need to be updated
3069
02:11:41.286 --> 02:11:46.286
to list these IB fine arts courses
3070
02:11:46.460 --> 02:11:49.110
as meeting graduation requirements
3071
02:11:49.110 --> 02:11:51.490
and then how it applies to endorsements.
3072
02:11:51.490 --> 02:11:54.220
So, we believe that this is truly
3073
02:11:54.220 --> 02:11:58.110
the end of the issues that we have
3074
02:11:58.110 --> 02:12:00.550
that we can identify at this point.
3075
02:12:02.670 --> 02:12:04.650
I just love your company so much.
3076
02:12:04.650 --> 02:12:06.463
We invent things to come back.
3077
02:12:06.463 --> 02:12:08.608
And you stayed for the duration today.
3078
02:12:08.608 --> 02:12:10.191
That is impressive.
3079
02:12:11.473 --> 02:12:13.460
Yes, it took me longer to get up here
3080
02:12:13.460 --> 02:12:15.430
than it did to get from Munich, Germany.
3081
02:12:15.430 --> 02:12:17.950
(laughter)
3082
02:12:17.950 --> 02:12:18.783
That's right.
3083
02:12:18.783 --> 02:12:21.160
And we didn't serve peanuts here.
3084
02:12:21.160 --> 02:12:23.240
Okay, so, members, recall.
3085
02:12:23.240 --> 02:12:24.640
This is not posted for discussion.
3086
02:12:24.640 --> 02:12:26.580
You can ask questions.
3087
02:12:26.580 --> 02:12:28.110
But, beyond that,
3088
02:12:28.110 --> 02:12:30.423
that's about the extent of our participation.
3089
02:12:31.290 --> 02:12:32.123
Mister chair.
3090
02:12:32.123 --> 02:12:32.956
Yes, Mister Maynard.
3091
02:12:32.956 --> 02:12:33.930
If we address all the issues,
3092
02:12:33.930 --> 02:12:35.680
we won't get to see you anymore.
3093
02:12:35.680 --> 02:12:37.112
I'll come back every now and then
3094
02:12:37.112 --> 02:12:38.770
just to see what's going on.
3095
02:12:38.770 --> 02:12:39.980
Okay, thank you, Miss Lafevers.
3096
02:12:39.980 --> 02:12:41.458
Thank you.
3097
02:12:41.458 --> 02:12:44.340
Mister Satchel we decided is not here.
3098
02:12:44.340 --> 02:12:45.343
Robert Satchel.
3099
02:12:46.410 --> 02:12:47.463
Doctor West.
3100
02:13:01.040 --> 02:13:01.873
Is it on?
3101
02:13:01.873 --> 02:13:02.783
Oh, now it is, okay.
3102
02:13:04.670 --> 02:13:06.370
I'm Sandra West.
3103
02:13:06.370 --> 02:13:08.822
Thank you for your due diligence.
3104
02:13:08.822 --> 02:13:11.520
Y'all are absolutely amazing.
3105
02:13:11.520 --> 02:13:12.450
My brain.
3106
02:13:12.450 --> 02:13:15.350
I have a headache right now listening to all of this today
3107
02:13:15.350 --> 02:13:17.700
and trying to actually keep up with some of it.
3108
02:13:18.870 --> 02:13:19.830
What I have for you
3109
02:13:19.830 --> 02:13:22.770
is a very pitiful piece of documentation.
3110
02:13:22.770 --> 02:13:23.603
I'm sorry.
3111
02:13:23.603 --> 02:13:25.820
That was the best I could do from a hotel last night.
3112
02:13:25.820 --> 02:13:27.517
The clerk was very helpful to me.
3113
02:13:27.517 --> 02:13:31.530
But I thought you needed this information in writing.
3114
02:13:31.530 --> 02:13:33.960
I do better when things are in writing in front of me.
3115
02:13:33.960 --> 02:13:38.440
I have eight topics I'd like to address very briefly.
3116
02:13:38.440 --> 02:13:39.940
And I'd like to skip number two,
3117
02:13:39.940 --> 02:13:41.510
because it goes with the handout
3118
02:13:41.510 --> 02:13:43.840
that's on the back of your half page.
3119
02:13:43.840 --> 02:13:44.845
The first one.
3120
02:13:44.845 --> 02:13:47.228
Of course, I'm talking about science TEKS
3121
02:13:47.228 --> 02:13:50.830
need a complete rewrite.
3122
02:13:50.830 --> 02:13:52.220
I know we call them revision.
3123
02:13:52.220 --> 02:13:54.460
But I'd like to say we need innovation.
3124
02:13:54.460 --> 02:13:56.100
Not just a revision.
3125
02:13:56.100 --> 02:13:58.350
The science TEKS are lacking in many areas.
3126
02:13:58.350 --> 02:14:01.030
And thus the need for innovation
3127
02:14:01.030 --> 02:14:04.200
rather than just editing is needed.
3128
02:14:04.200 --> 02:14:06.320
Some work has been done to identify holes.
3129
02:14:06.320 --> 02:14:09.220
And I actually shared some of those with you previously.
3130
02:14:09.220 --> 02:14:12.410
But this may not be the most effective or efficient way.
3131
02:14:12.410 --> 02:14:14.370
But, however, it's probably likely
3132
02:14:14.370 --> 02:14:17.970
to provide evidence for the need of a major revision.
3133
02:14:17.970 --> 02:14:20.980
The third bullet, merge practices with content,
3134
02:14:20.980 --> 02:14:25.610
and not separate processes as we currently do in our TEKS.
3135
02:14:25.610 --> 02:14:27.253
We need that for a better understanding of
3136
02:14:27.253 --> 02:14:29.970
authentic science content and practices.
3137
02:14:29.970 --> 02:14:34.120
And as guidance for our teachers.
3138
02:14:34.120 --> 02:14:35.867
The next bullet, lost instructional time.
3139
02:14:35.867 --> 02:14:37.850
I want to remind you of the research
3140
02:14:37.850 --> 02:14:40.810
that was done by STAT where teachers reported
3141
02:14:40.810 --> 02:14:43.280
they lost 21 instructional days.
3142
02:14:43.280 --> 02:14:47.244
However, only 11 plus days were due to state testing.
3143
02:14:47.244 --> 02:14:49.498
Nine plus days were lost to
3144
02:14:49.498 --> 02:14:53.623
pep rallies, iPad distribution, et cetera.
3145
02:14:55.030 --> 02:14:58.570
We have heard that there might be practice STAAR
3146
02:14:58.570 --> 02:15:00.830
that might be coming in the middle of the semester.
3147
02:15:00.830 --> 02:15:02.857
So, we are really concerned that
3148
02:15:02.857 --> 02:15:05.250
we are gonna be losing more instructional days
3149
02:15:05.250 --> 02:15:06.960
with the practice STAAR in addition
3150
02:15:06.960 --> 02:15:11.800
to the required assessment times.
3151
02:15:11.800 --> 02:15:15.320
Also, we would like for the committee to consider
3152
02:15:15.320 --> 02:15:18.720
not having math problems on a STAAR science test.
3153
02:15:18.720 --> 02:15:20.450
If it's going to assess math,
3154
02:15:20.450 --> 02:15:22.350
then it needs to be in the math STAAR.
3155
02:15:23.270 --> 02:15:24.527
We would also suggest that
3156
02:15:24.527 --> 02:15:27.480
there be an alignment with math.
3157
02:15:27.480 --> 02:15:31.360
And I've testified probably numerous times on this before.
3158
02:15:31.360 --> 02:15:33.170
That, even though the math may be
3159
02:15:33.170 --> 02:15:34.540
taught in that grade level,
3160
02:15:34.540 --> 02:15:36.211
it is not necessarily taught
3161
02:15:36.211 --> 02:15:37.044
(ding)
3162
02:15:37.044 --> 02:15:38.243
when the science teachers need it.
3163
02:15:39.790 --> 02:15:41.238
Is that my ding?
3164
02:15:41.238 --> 02:15:42.071
30 more seconds.
3165
02:15:42.071 --> 02:15:43.550
Okay, quick.
3166
02:15:43.550 --> 02:15:45.610
That the alignment with math
3167
02:15:45.610 --> 02:15:48.800
be from the math from the previous year.
3168
02:15:48.800 --> 02:15:50.890
Also, is there going to be a limit
3169
02:15:50.890 --> 02:15:53.290
to the number of TEKS again, as we had?
3170
02:15:53.290 --> 02:15:58.140
And can the science leadership have input
3171
02:15:58.140 --> 02:16:01.230
into the survey that the state's going to put out.
3172
02:16:01.230 --> 02:16:03.060
And back up to the second bullet.
3173
02:16:03.060 --> 02:16:04.723
The organization and structure of the TEKS
3174
02:16:04.723 --> 02:16:06.601
does not support science learning
3175
02:16:06.601 --> 02:16:09.338
and artificially limits the clear understanding.
3176
02:16:09.338 --> 02:16:10.956
(ding)
3177
02:16:10.956 --> 02:16:11.789
I have presented to you.
3178
02:16:11.789 --> 02:16:13.587
Middle of a sentence here.
3179
02:16:13.587 --> 02:16:17.900
Presented to you what I hope is an example
3180
02:16:17.900 --> 02:16:21.560
of where the holes are in the structure of the TEKS,
3181
02:16:21.560 --> 02:16:24.076
not the concept or content,
3182
02:16:24.076 --> 02:16:27.140
and how it should be according to
3183
02:16:27.140 --> 02:16:29.394
the National Science Education standards
3184
02:16:29.394 --> 02:16:31.380
that science teachers and scientists
3185
02:16:31.380 --> 02:16:33.883
have developed over the years.
3186
02:16:35.130 --> 02:16:37.080
Any questions of Doctor West?
3187
02:16:38.230 --> 02:16:39.063
Thank you very much.
3188
02:16:39.063 --> 02:16:39.980
We look forward to.
3189
02:16:39.980 --> 02:16:41.306
Oh, Miss Cargill.
3190
02:16:41.306 --> 02:16:42.820
(too faint to hear)
3191
02:16:42.820 --> 02:16:46.140
No, there's nothing from the NTSS on here.
3192
02:16:46.140 --> 02:16:46.973
I'm sorry.
3193
02:16:46.973 --> 02:16:48.320
It doesn't show up very well.
3194
02:16:48.320 --> 02:16:49.940
But the left column are TEKS.
3195
02:16:50.890 --> 02:16:52.570
So, the left column are TEKS.
3196
02:16:52.570 --> 02:16:54.270
The right column is from the framework
3197
02:16:54.270 --> 02:16:56.460
for K-12 science education.
3198
02:16:56.460 --> 02:16:58.623
There's nothing on here from NTSS.
3199
02:17:00.540 --> 02:17:01.373
Thank you.
3200
02:17:01.373 --> 02:17:03.280
Look forward to working with you, Doctor West.
3201
02:17:03.280 --> 02:17:05.240
Science rolls around.
3202
02:17:05.240 --> 02:17:07.090
Okay, members, I think that's
3203
02:17:07.090 --> 02:17:10.260
all we have to cover agenda-wise.
3204
02:17:10.260 --> 02:17:12.483
Points of personal privilege?
3205
02:17:14.090 --> 02:17:15.770
Yes, Miss Melton-Malone.
3206
02:17:15.770 --> 02:17:18.920
Not me, but we need to say congratulations
3207
02:17:18.920 --> 02:17:21.270
to Doctor Ellis for his award that he received.
3208
02:17:25.932 --> 02:17:28.182
(applause)
3209
02:17:30.000 --> 02:17:32.100
Doctor Ellis always has your back.
3210
02:17:39.120 --> 02:17:40.900
Even in Donna's absence,
3211
02:17:40.900 --> 02:17:41.850
I'd like to say publicly
3212
02:17:41.850 --> 02:17:43.900
and thank her for her service as the board chair.
3213
02:17:43.900 --> 02:17:46.331
I think she's done a fantastic job.
3214
02:17:46.331 --> 02:17:48.581
(applause)
3215
02:17:50.590 --> 02:17:52.180
I have one.
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02:17:52.180 --> 02:17:54.800
We recently lost somebody who was
3217
02:17:54.800 --> 02:17:57.019
very, very instrumental in making sure that
3218
02:17:57.019 --> 02:18:00.310
our teacher force was diverse in Texas.
3219
02:18:00.310 --> 02:18:02.290
And that was Doctor Elaine Bailey.
3220
02:18:02.290 --> 02:18:04.270
She was in the Houston area.
3221
02:18:04.270 --> 02:18:07.212
And she started teaching, I think, around the '50s.
3222
02:18:07.212 --> 02:18:10.560
When there wasn't many African American teachers at all.
3223
02:18:10.560 --> 02:18:12.390
And not only did she increase
3224
02:18:12.390 --> 02:18:13.830
the number of African American teachers
3225
02:18:13.830 --> 02:18:15.170
through her advocacy,
3226
02:18:15.170 --> 02:18:17.430
she wanted to make sure that all teachers that
3227
02:18:17.430 --> 02:18:19.870
taught Black students had the tools they needed
3228
02:18:19.870 --> 02:18:21.960
for those students to be successful.
3229
02:18:21.960 --> 02:18:25.480
And she's affected thousands of teachers across the country.
3230
02:18:25.480 --> 02:18:26.610
Mostly here in Texas.
3231
02:18:26.610 --> 02:18:28.530
And she passed away last week.
3232
02:18:28.530 --> 02:18:30.090
So, I did want to use my time
3233
02:18:30.090 --> 02:18:32.710
to publicly say thank you, Doctor Bailey,
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02:18:32.710 --> 02:18:33.923
for everything you've done
3235
02:18:33.923 --> 02:18:36.840
in shaping Texas the way it is.
3236
02:18:36.840 --> 02:18:38.370
A diverse teacher force where
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02:18:38.370 --> 02:18:40.700
everybody can serve every student.
3238
02:18:40.700 --> 02:18:42.140
We have a lot of that to thank for her.
3239
02:18:42.140 --> 02:18:44.530
She's like a little hidden hero.
3240
02:18:44.530 --> 02:18:45.363
Very good.
3241
02:18:45.363 --> 02:18:46.196
Very good.
3242
02:18:46.196 --> 02:18:47.029
Thank you, Miss Davis.
3243
02:18:47.029 --> 02:18:47.903
(applause)
3244
02:18:47.903 --> 02:18:48.736
Any further?
3245
02:18:48.736 --> 02:18:49.973
Mister Maynard.
3246
02:18:49.973 --> 02:18:52.038
I'd just like to remind folks, also.
3247
02:18:52.038 --> 02:18:57.038
Doctor Keven Ellis also made a huge commitment
3248
02:18:57.190 --> 02:18:59.464
to the school finance commission.
3249
02:18:59.464 --> 02:19:02.640
And really did a lot of work on that.
3250
02:19:02.640 --> 02:19:03.473
Thank you for that.
3251
02:19:03.473 --> 02:19:04.927
That was certainly above and beyond.
3252
02:19:04.927 --> 02:19:07.483
I understand that the pay scale is about the same.
3253
02:19:08.439 --> 02:19:10.182
Very good.
3254
02:19:10.182 --> 02:19:11.554
(applause)
3255
02:19:11.554 --> 02:19:13.895
And I'd also like to remind all the members that,
3256
02:19:13.895 --> 02:19:17.010
if you've not picked up some peaches, we have plenty.
3257
02:19:17.010 --> 02:19:22.010
So, those are raised in Blumenthal, Texas
3258
02:19:22.200 --> 02:19:23.790
between Stonewall and Fredericksburg
3259
02:19:23.790 --> 02:19:25.800
by my good friend Russ Studebaker.
3260
02:19:25.800 --> 02:19:27.530
And he's a great farmer.
3261
02:19:27.530 --> 02:19:30.610
And so, there are plenty.
3262
02:19:30.610 --> 02:19:32.561
We run out in there, I have more in the truck.
3263
02:19:32.561 --> 02:19:34.800
(laughter)
3264
02:19:34.800 --> 02:19:35.633
Very good.
3265
02:19:35.633 --> 02:19:37.030
Anything further?
3266
02:19:37.030 --> 02:19:38.430
Yes, Miss Davis.
3267
02:19:38.430 --> 02:19:40.190
We have an education day in the district
3268
02:19:40.190 --> 02:19:41.550
in Dallas in September.
3269
02:19:41.550 --> 02:19:43.390
I'll be sending you guys invitations.
3270
02:19:43.390 --> 02:19:48.050
I want to connect K-12 leaders, school board members,
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02:19:48.050 --> 02:19:51.100
higher ed entities, nonprofits.
3272
02:19:51.100 --> 02:19:53.070
Anybody to come together to help kids.
3273
02:19:53.070 --> 02:19:55.510
And, of course, I would love for you guys to be there.
3274
02:19:55.510 --> 02:19:57.160
And I'll be sending you guys more information about that.
3275
02:19:57.160 --> 02:19:58.345
Very good.
3276
02:19:58.345 --> 02:19:59.800
Anything further?
3277
02:19:59.800 --> 02:20:00.633
We're adjourned.