WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.981 --> 00:00:03.973 Call the meeting to order. 2 00:00:06.360 --> 00:00:08.290 Yep, Miss Mosay, yes. 3 00:00:11.980 --> 00:00:15.853 Okay, Miss Mosay, call the next contestant. 4 00:00:18.560 --> 00:00:19.917 Good afternoon board. 5 00:00:19.917 --> 00:00:23.110 Our next proposal is Royal Public Schools, 6 00:00:23.110 --> 00:00:25.900 whose proposed superintendent Doctor Soner Tarim 7 00:00:25.900 --> 00:00:30.140 is a fellow with the Pahara-Aspen Leadership Institute 8 00:00:30.140 --> 00:00:32.370 and has the distinction of designing 9 00:00:32.370 --> 00:00:35.150 and leading the most academically successful 10 00:00:35.150 --> 00:00:38.660 charter school network here in Texas. 11 00:00:38.660 --> 00:00:41.550 The innovative curriculum of the proposed application 12 00:00:41.550 --> 00:00:45.217 seeks to marry STEM education with a heavy emphasis 13 00:00:45.217 --> 00:00:48.720 on reading and social and emotional learning. 14 00:00:48.720 --> 00:00:51.710 We are recommending Royal Academy 15 00:00:51.710 --> 00:00:55.750 for four campuses in the Austin and Houston area 16 00:00:55.750 --> 00:00:58.870 to serve students in grades K through 12. 17 00:00:58.870 --> 00:01:01.780 Here today is the proposed superintendent 18 00:01:01.780 --> 00:01:04.903 Doctor Soner Tarim and board member Doctor Pascal. 19 00:01:09.190 --> 00:01:11.460 Okay, Doctor Tarim or Dr. Pascal, 20 00:01:11.460 --> 00:01:12.935 whoever wants to go first. 21 00:01:12.935 --> 00:01:14.240 And just, if you, would make sure that 22 00:01:14.240 --> 00:01:18.620 your microphone is activated and speak up. 23 00:01:18.620 --> 00:01:19.453 Oh, I guess. 24 00:01:19.453 --> 00:01:20.548 I'm sorry. 25 00:01:20.548 --> 00:01:24.450 We probably need to go ahead and make the motion now. 26 00:01:24.450 --> 00:01:25.630 Let's do that. 27 00:01:25.630 --> 00:01:26.950 If you gentlemen can just stay right there. 28 00:01:26.950 --> 00:01:28.940 But Miss Cargill, you wanna make the motion? 29 00:01:28.940 --> 00:01:33.940 Okay, members, we're on page six at the very bottom 30 00:01:34.730 --> 00:01:39.033 of the Committee on School Initiatives minutes. 31 00:01:40.089 --> 00:01:43.220 It's recommended by the Committee on School Initiatives 32 00:01:43.220 --> 00:01:46.710 that the State Board of Education veto Royal Public Schools 33 00:01:46.710 --> 00:01:49.240 Austin and Houston scheduled to open 34 00:01:49.240 --> 00:01:51.383 in the 2021 school year. 35 00:01:51.383 --> 00:01:54.550 You can see the vote on the bottom of page six 36 00:01:54.550 --> 00:01:58.990 with three members voting yes and two members voting no. 37 00:01:58.990 --> 00:02:00.740 Okay, thank you, Miss Cargill. 38 00:02:00.740 --> 00:02:02.060 Gentlemen, you may proceed. 39 00:02:02.060 --> 00:02:03.719 Okay, members of the board, 40 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:07.320 thank you for giving us the opportunity. 41 00:02:07.320 --> 00:02:11.881 Sorry, oh my God. 42 00:02:11.881 --> 00:02:14.393 Yes, I'll do my best. 43 00:02:15.530 --> 00:02:17.290 Mister chairman, members of the board, 44 00:02:17.290 --> 00:02:20.183 thank you for giving us opportunity to speak before you. 45 00:02:21.870 --> 00:02:23.373 So, I've been doing this many, many years. 46 00:02:23.373 --> 00:02:24.420 But I'm so nervous. 47 00:02:24.420 --> 00:02:25.360 I put down some notes. 48 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:26.450 I'm gonna read from my notes. 49 00:02:26.450 --> 00:02:27.840 I apologize. 50 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:31.290 I am the founder and proposed CEO of Royal Public Schools. 51 00:02:31.290 --> 00:02:33.290 I was also the founder and former CEO 52 00:02:33.290 --> 00:02:34.840 of Harmony Public Schools. 53 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:36.380 Which is one of the highest performing 54 00:02:36.380 --> 00:02:38.600 charter schools in Texas. 55 00:02:38.600 --> 00:02:41.541 When I left Harmony in 2017, 56 00:02:41.541 --> 00:02:46.541 we had 54 schools and were serving nearly 34000 students. 57 00:02:47.540 --> 00:02:48.730 That placed Harmony in 58 00:02:48.730 --> 00:02:52.203 the top 50 large school system in Texas. 59 00:02:53.410 --> 00:02:55.284 My charter school journey begin 60 00:02:55.284 --> 00:02:59.280 while I was working on my PhD at Texas A&M University, 61 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:00.480 which is one of the finest 62 00:03:00.480 --> 00:03:03.560 higher education institution in Texas. 63 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:05.510 While I was teaching undergrad students 64 00:03:05.510 --> 00:03:07.397 science-related courses, 65 00:03:07.397 --> 00:03:10.627 I discovered that students who came to Texas A&M 66 00:03:10.627 --> 00:03:13.540 lack interest in math and science. 67 00:03:13.540 --> 00:03:16.440 So, with the help of a professor at Texas A&M 68 00:03:16.440 --> 00:03:18.640 who was running a charter school in College Station, 69 00:03:18.640 --> 00:03:21.400 I started exploring how I can establish 70 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:24.005 a charter school system that can impact 71 00:03:24.005 --> 00:03:26.983 the students who want to study STEM education. 72 00:03:28.160 --> 00:03:30.230 So, we wrote our first charter application 73 00:03:30.230 --> 00:03:31.720 and submitted to TEA 74 00:03:31.720 --> 00:03:34.280 and it was approved in April 2000. 75 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:38.290 Within five months, we opened our door in Houston 76 00:03:38.290 --> 00:03:39.670 with 200 students. 77 00:03:39.670 --> 00:03:43.520 And, two years later, we opened our second location 78 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.640 here in Austin on Rundberg Lane. 79 00:03:46.640 --> 00:03:49.480 And then our third location was in 2004 80 00:03:49.480 --> 00:03:51.143 was in Dallas, Texas. 81 00:03:52.350 --> 00:03:55.840 Right around 2003, 2004 school years, 82 00:03:55.840 --> 00:03:59.180 Texas started paying attention to STEM education. 83 00:03:59.180 --> 00:04:01.783 And, as part of private-public partnership, 84 00:04:02.634 --> 00:04:04.270 the Texas High School Project Initiative was launched 85 00:04:04.270 --> 00:04:08.390 by the governor's office, TEA, Dell Foundation, 86 00:04:08.390 --> 00:04:10.420 Gates Foundation, and many others. 87 00:04:10.420 --> 00:04:14.280 Harmony was the early grand recipient from this initiative. 88 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:16.640 Through Texas High School Project, 89 00:04:16.640 --> 00:04:19.190 we received over $14 million 90 00:04:19.190 --> 00:04:20.590 from the Gates Foundation, Dell Foundation, 91 00:04:20.590 --> 00:04:23.070 and several other foundations. 92 00:04:23.070 --> 00:04:26.380 Not only we receive funding for our schools, 93 00:04:26.380 --> 00:04:29.150 but they also hire a business consulting firm 94 00:04:29.150 --> 00:04:31.554 to teach us how to incubate and replicate 95 00:04:31.554 --> 00:04:33.473 a successful school program. 96 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:36.210 They also provided a scholarship 97 00:04:36.210 --> 00:04:39.240 for me to attend Harvard Business School business program 98 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:41.040 to learn business practices. 99 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:43.650 As a result, we began replicating 100 00:04:43.650 --> 00:04:47.500 our schools in all major cities in Texas. 101 00:04:47.500 --> 00:04:49.128 Fast forward. 102 00:04:49.128 --> 00:04:51.817 Several years ago, I was nominated for 103 00:04:51.817 --> 00:04:55.130 and completed a two year fellowship program 104 00:04:55.130 --> 00:04:57.490 at the prestigious Aspen Institute. 105 00:04:57.490 --> 00:05:00.890 In that program, as part of the fellowship project, 106 00:05:00.890 --> 00:05:03.833 I started doing research on social and emotional learning. 107 00:05:04.830 --> 00:05:06.700 I realized that social and emotional learning 108 00:05:06.700 --> 00:05:10.320 could be a game changer in our public education. 109 00:05:10.320 --> 00:05:14.960 So, I decided to incorporate what I know the most, STEM, 110 00:05:14.960 --> 00:05:18.160 and incorporate SEL to STEM education. 111 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:21.640 So, I phrase the work STREAMS-360. 112 00:05:21.640 --> 00:05:22.677 I have to tell you that, 113 00:05:22.677 --> 00:05:25.800 when we started the STEM education back in 2000, 114 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:27.900 I don't claim that we invented STEM. 115 00:05:27.900 --> 00:05:29.615 But we were the only school system in Texas 116 00:05:29.615 --> 00:05:33.153 doing STEM education when STEM wasn't cool. 117 00:05:34.150 --> 00:05:39.030 In 2017, while I was doing my STREAMS-360 research, 118 00:05:39.030 --> 00:05:41.030 I decided to step down being CEO 119 00:05:41.030 --> 00:05:42.900 and devoted my full time on 120 00:05:42.900 --> 00:05:45.800 this Royal Charter School application. 121 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:49.030 After leaving Harmony, I established an LLC, 122 00:05:49.030 --> 00:05:52.550 a consulting and measurement firm, to pay the bills. 123 00:05:52.550 --> 00:05:55.350 Since I have done 50 plus charter schools 124 00:05:55.350 --> 00:05:57.150 incubation and replication, 125 00:05:57.150 --> 00:05:59.020 I wanted to use my expertise 126 00:05:59.020 --> 00:06:02.073 while I was working on my nonprofit Royal Public Schools. 127 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:06.680 In 2017, just before I left Harmony, 128 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:07.810 I was also selected for 129 00:06:07.810 --> 00:06:10.300 the charter school of the year in Texas. 130 00:06:10.300 --> 00:06:13.920 I was also nominated to be a Broad Foundation fellow. 131 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:16.150 Due to my workload during that year, 132 00:06:16.150 --> 00:06:20.340 I delayed and started my Broad Fellowship just this year. 133 00:06:20.340 --> 00:06:23.890 In closing, 19 years ago, 134 00:06:23.890 --> 00:06:28.890 I came before this board group, just like today, 135 00:06:28.900 --> 00:06:31.100 and I promised numbers that, 136 00:06:31.100 --> 00:06:35.220 if I am granted a charter, I would not let you down 137 00:06:35.220 --> 00:06:37.800 and create one of the most highest performing 138 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:39.863 charter schools in this state. 139 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:42.860 I think I kept my promise. 140 00:06:42.860 --> 00:06:45.420 And I intend to do so today. 141 00:06:45.420 --> 00:06:47.730 So, I'm gonna take some time. 142 00:06:47.730 --> 00:06:49.850 My time back to Pascal. 143 00:06:49.850 --> 00:06:52.207 Yes, it's a privilege to stand before you 144 00:06:52.207 --> 00:06:54.700 on behalf of Royal Public Schools. 145 00:06:54.700 --> 00:06:56.820 I'm a lifelong educator. 146 00:06:56.820 --> 00:06:58.443 My two daughters are teachers. 147 00:06:58.443 --> 00:07:01.810 My master's degree is in education. 148 00:07:01.810 --> 00:07:04.263 As is my doctorate from UCLA. 149 00:07:06.530 --> 00:07:10.104 As chief academic officer at the Art Institute of Houston, 150 00:07:10.104 --> 00:07:14.960 I visited Harmony Schools about eight years ago. 151 00:07:14.960 --> 00:07:17.233 And I met Doctor Tarim. 152 00:07:18.320 --> 00:07:23.320 I was astounded at the persistence, day-to-day, 153 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:24.377 that they had. 154 00:07:24.377 --> 00:07:28.895 And the graduation rates that they had. 155 00:07:28.895 --> 00:07:30.399 But what most impressed. 156 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:34.910 What impressed me the most was walking around 157 00:07:34.910 --> 00:07:38.690 visiting classrooms, going into some of the computer labs, 158 00:07:38.690 --> 00:07:40.430 and even popping my head into 159 00:07:40.430 --> 00:07:45.430 the lunchroom area to see these students. 160 00:07:45.740 --> 00:07:50.740 The vitality, their upbeat body language. 161 00:07:50.840 --> 00:07:55.840 There's really a positive, nurturing culture at Harmony. 162 00:07:57.740 --> 00:07:59.530 That image stuck in my mind. 163 00:07:59.530 --> 00:08:01.728 So, a number of years later. 164 00:08:01.728 --> 00:08:06.670 Actually, two years ago, I had the opportunity 165 00:08:06.670 --> 00:08:11.670 to join with a new venture, an adventure, 166 00:08:12.970 --> 00:08:15.970 to build on the past success 167 00:08:15.970 --> 00:08:20.280 and experience of Doctor Soner Tarim 168 00:08:20.280 --> 00:08:23.220 in 20 years in the charter school field 169 00:08:23.220 --> 00:08:27.900 as a leader and someone who is gotten quality results 170 00:08:27.900 --> 00:08:29.113 wherever he's been. 171 00:08:30.290 --> 00:08:34.967 So, I just want to note that 172 00:08:34.967 --> 00:08:39.050 the Royal School Board is a mix of 173 00:08:39.050 --> 00:08:44.050 business people, legal backgrounds, and also educators. 174 00:08:45.390 --> 00:08:50.140 And we have total confidence in the leadership 175 00:08:50.140 --> 00:08:55.140 of our CEO, Doctor Soner Tarim. 176 00:08:55.360 --> 00:09:00.360 And we expect to build on past successes and research 177 00:09:01.250 --> 00:09:04.500 and experience to build a brighter future 178 00:09:04.500 --> 00:09:07.743 for the children of the great state of Texas. 179 00:09:09.350 --> 00:09:10.270 Thank you, gentlemen. 180 00:09:10.270 --> 00:09:11.260 Any questions? 181 00:09:11.260 --> 00:09:12.093 Miss Hardy. 182 00:09:13.980 --> 00:09:16.687 Yes, I have a couple of questions for Doctor Tarim. 183 00:09:16.687 --> 00:09:20.450 First one is social and emotional learning. 184 00:09:20.450 --> 00:09:23.440 Can you summarize what that means to you? 185 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:25.970 Social and emotional learning. 186 00:09:25.970 --> 00:09:27.110 Yes, ma'am. 187 00:09:27.110 --> 00:09:32.110 So, as I mentioned during the first interview, 188 00:09:34.243 --> 00:09:37.064 there's a lot of misuse. 189 00:09:37.064 --> 00:09:39.340 Since it's a buzzword these days, 190 00:09:39.340 --> 00:09:42.410 there's are lots of different use. 191 00:09:42.410 --> 00:09:44.940 So, in our. 192 00:09:44.940 --> 00:09:48.510 First of all, what I would describe 193 00:09:48.510 --> 00:09:52.600 is social and emotional learning start with the definition. 194 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:54.670 Basically, it is the capacity to gain 195 00:09:55.606 --> 00:09:57.000 skills, attitudes, and behaviors 196 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:58.960 to deal effectively and ethically 197 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:00.950 with the daily task of challenges. 198 00:10:00.950 --> 00:10:03.980 So, in the Royal Academy, we believe that 199 00:10:03.980 --> 00:10:04.813 social and emotional learning 200 00:10:04.813 --> 00:10:07.110 will support all aspects of our education. 201 00:10:07.110 --> 00:10:10.010 Not just we're gonna teach as a course level. 202 00:10:10.010 --> 00:10:12.030 But what we're trying to incorporate. 203 00:10:12.030 --> 00:10:12.900 And it's a challenge. 204 00:10:12.900 --> 00:10:14.830 I mean, you heard yesterday some of the ISD folks 205 00:10:14.830 --> 00:10:19.830 that they have provide social and emotional learning. 206 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:22.470 But it's a very challenging. 207 00:10:22.470 --> 00:10:25.600 When you try to incorporate this in every subject area. 208 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:30.350 So, we have created a Royal teaching framework 209 00:10:30.350 --> 00:10:32.810 that really incorporates this social and emotional learning 210 00:10:32.810 --> 00:10:33.720 in all aspect area. 211 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:36.530 So, we're gonna utilize, basically, 212 00:10:36.530 --> 00:10:38.620 five component of social and emotional learning 213 00:10:38.620 --> 00:10:41.210 into our program. 214 00:10:41.210 --> 00:10:43.410 Including self-awareness, self-management, 215 00:10:43.410 --> 00:10:46.267 responsible decision making, relationship skills, 216 00:10:46.267 --> 00:10:48.170 and also social awareness. 217 00:10:48.170 --> 00:10:49.770 Those are the five components that 218 00:10:49.770 --> 00:10:53.060 we feel they will utilize in our program. 219 00:10:53.060 --> 00:10:54.370 Thank you. 220 00:10:54.370 --> 00:10:55.910 The other question I have is. 221 00:10:55.910 --> 00:11:00.910 I know that you have developed a certain curriculum. 222 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:06.380 And I want to know if the basis of that curriculum. 223 00:11:06.380 --> 00:11:08.440 Is it Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills? 224 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:10.240 Or is it Common Core? 225 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:13.180 From everything I've read about the resources. 226 00:11:13.180 --> 00:11:14.570 I have them in front of me here. 227 00:11:14.570 --> 00:11:17.720 The Share My Lesson, which is based on Common Core. 228 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:22.720 And the Teaching Channel, which is based on Common Core. 229 00:11:23.010 --> 00:11:26.223 And what's this other one? 230 00:11:28.210 --> 00:11:31.820 The great teachers demonstrate moving to deeper learning 231 00:11:31.820 --> 00:11:33.660 is based on Common Core. 232 00:11:33.660 --> 00:11:36.230 And I know you've written a curriculum 233 00:11:36.230 --> 00:11:39.610 that is used nationwide. 234 00:11:39.610 --> 00:11:41.750 A lot of states have Common Core. 235 00:11:41.750 --> 00:11:43.400 But we don't in Texas. 236 00:11:43.400 --> 00:11:48.400 And whatever is used in Alabama in your school. 237 00:11:48.500 --> 00:11:50.590 They said that it would be replicated, 238 00:11:50.590 --> 00:11:53.860 the same curriculum, in Texas. 239 00:11:53.860 --> 00:11:55.870 And I want to know how you're doing that 240 00:11:55.870 --> 00:11:58.800 without having in be Common Core. 241 00:11:58.800 --> 00:11:59.890 Yes, ma'am. 242 00:11:59.890 --> 00:12:01.130 Miss Hardy, I can assure you. 243 00:12:01.130 --> 00:12:02.813 And I have said this before. 244 00:12:02.813 --> 00:12:06.240 When we, several years ago. 245 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:09.188 About five years ago, we received one of the largest grant 246 00:12:09.188 --> 00:12:10.997 while I was CEO at Harmony. 247 00:12:10.997 --> 00:12:13.970 $30 million grant from the federal government. 248 00:12:13.970 --> 00:12:16.370 And, at the time, a lot of people thought that 249 00:12:16.370 --> 00:12:19.750 this was only given to schools who actually do Common Core. 250 00:12:19.750 --> 00:12:20.670 Which is not true. 251 00:12:20.670 --> 00:12:22.630 And I sent a letter to. 252 00:12:22.630 --> 00:12:25.000 I believe it was to Miss Cargill. 253 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:27.820 At the time, she was the chairman. 254 00:12:27.820 --> 00:12:30.690 And assured her that everything we do at Harmony 255 00:12:30.690 --> 00:12:34.350 and what we're going to do at Royal is TEKS-based. 256 00:12:34.350 --> 00:12:35.560 We do not. 257 00:12:35.560 --> 00:12:38.000 I can assure you that we do not use 258 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:42.100 that word anywhere in our program or in our curriculum. 259 00:12:42.100 --> 00:12:44.674 It's all TEKS-based curriculum. 260 00:12:44.674 --> 00:12:48.130 I did write charter application for other states. 261 00:12:48.130 --> 00:12:49.280 Did you mention? 262 00:12:49.280 --> 00:12:51.070 And it's actually based on our program. 263 00:12:51.070 --> 00:12:52.920 It's not based on their program. 264 00:12:52.920 --> 00:12:55.070 So, they are using our program pretty much. 265 00:12:56.040 --> 00:12:57.270 But all these resources, 266 00:12:57.270 --> 00:12:59.520 which are listed in your application 267 00:12:59.520 --> 00:13:02.833 that you would be using, are Common Core-based. 268 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:05.540 Most of those resources are used 269 00:13:05.540 --> 00:13:07.770 in many other schools, also, in Texas. 270 00:13:07.770 --> 00:13:10.850 But they are sold in different places. 271 00:13:10.850 --> 00:13:12.572 Basically, we look at those. 272 00:13:12.572 --> 00:13:17.277 Everything is aligned to Texas standards. 273 00:13:18.401 --> 00:13:23.401 You were talking about the federal program. 274 00:13:23.470 --> 00:13:25.970 It was my understanding, as well, that. 275 00:13:25.970 --> 00:13:27.700 And I never saw it any other place. 276 00:13:27.700 --> 00:13:31.690 That you could even be considered for that money 277 00:13:31.690 --> 00:13:34.650 unless you were a Common Core entity. 278 00:13:34.650 --> 00:13:36.043 No, ma'am. 279 00:13:36.043 --> 00:13:38.680 We clearly identify and told it "This is a TEKS school. 280 00:13:38.680 --> 00:13:39.513 We are TEKS school. 281 00:13:40.611 --> 00:13:42.361 We're not gonna use anything else." 282 00:13:43.950 --> 00:13:46.253 Okay, thank you. 283 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:52.590 Doctor Tarim, can you speak on 284 00:13:52.590 --> 00:13:53.530 the social and emotional learning? 285 00:13:53.530 --> 00:13:54.363 Carry it a little bit further 286 00:13:54.363 --> 00:13:56.260 with what Miss Hardy was mentioning. 287 00:13:56.260 --> 00:13:58.380 Who will coordinate the SEL program 288 00:13:58.380 --> 00:14:00.520 on each of your campuses? 289 00:14:00.520 --> 00:14:05.060 So, we will have counselors in our schools. 290 00:14:05.060 --> 00:14:06.330 And we're gonna teach. 291 00:14:06.330 --> 00:14:09.099 Basically train every one of our teachers as part of. 292 00:14:09.099 --> 00:14:10.850 Because this is a schoolwide program. 293 00:14:10.850 --> 00:14:12.280 And our goal is to integrate this 294 00:14:12.280 --> 00:14:14.140 social and emotional learning in every subject. 295 00:14:14.140 --> 00:14:18.520 So, to a counselor, assistant principal, and lead principal, 296 00:14:18.520 --> 00:14:21.639 basically, we're gonna utilize this in every subject. 297 00:14:21.639 --> 00:14:22.472 That's what I thought. 298 00:14:22.472 --> 00:14:24.138 That it was counselors. But correct me if I'm wrong. 299 00:14:24.138 --> 00:14:26.097 But was there any money budgeted for counselors? 300 00:14:26.097 --> 00:14:27.010 Yes, sir. 301 00:14:27.010 --> 00:14:28.490 Yes, definitely. 302 00:14:28.490 --> 00:14:29.518 It's in the budget. 303 00:14:29.518 --> 00:14:30.579 It's there. 304 00:14:30.579 --> 00:14:33.243 It's sad to hear that. 305 00:14:33.243 --> 00:14:35.000 I saw some people who have commented that 306 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:38.360 we have no counselor in our school budget. 307 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:39.193 Second question I have is that 308 00:14:39.193 --> 00:14:41.030 I understand that the agency 309 00:14:41.030 --> 00:14:44.690 has changed your proposal from 310 00:14:44.690 --> 00:14:47.310 granting you eight campuses to four. 311 00:14:47.310 --> 00:14:48.370 There's gonna be two elementaries, a middle, 312 00:14:48.370 --> 00:14:49.938 and a high school in north Austin. 313 00:14:49.938 --> 00:14:51.490 And then also one near 314 00:14:51.490 --> 00:14:54.240 the Alief Independent School District. 315 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:55.710 With that changing to four, 316 00:14:55.710 --> 00:14:57.210 can you give us some guidance on 317 00:14:57.210 --> 00:15:01.460 what your plan will be with the change 318 00:15:01.460 --> 00:15:03.580 in number of campuses. 319 00:15:03.580 --> 00:15:06.320 Sure, so, based on my research, the ideal school. 320 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:09.604 If we are talking about a 21st century. 321 00:15:09.604 --> 00:15:11.565 Preparing our kids for college. 322 00:15:11.565 --> 00:15:14.940 What I discovered over the past 19 years. 323 00:15:14.940 --> 00:15:17.310 The best high school model is to have 324 00:15:17.310 --> 00:15:19.410 600 student plus or minus. 325 00:15:19.410 --> 00:15:21.960 600 students for a high school. 326 00:15:21.960 --> 00:15:25.310 Ideal size to really provide a lot of AP courses, 327 00:15:25.310 --> 00:15:27.200 elective courses we can do dual credit. 328 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:28.120 So, that's my research. 329 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:29.640 And it's scientific research. 330 00:15:29.640 --> 00:15:32.570 The ideal size high school is 600 to 900. 331 00:15:32.570 --> 00:15:33.490 No more than. 332 00:15:33.490 --> 00:15:35.730 So, what I design, in my proposal, 333 00:15:35.730 --> 00:15:38.300 with the first school that I requested for each series, 334 00:15:38.300 --> 00:15:41.950 is, if you take the high school 600, 335 00:15:41.950 --> 00:15:44.293 then, to have 600 kids, you have to have 336 00:15:44.293 --> 00:15:47.660 elementary school with 576 students. 337 00:15:47.660 --> 00:15:49.230 And then you have to have two elementary school 338 00:15:49.230 --> 00:15:50.330 that support that high school 339 00:15:50.330 --> 00:15:53.690 to have healthy population, financially viable. 340 00:15:53.690 --> 00:15:55.090 There's a lot of schools. 341 00:15:55.090 --> 00:15:57.540 If you have less than 600 high school kids, 342 00:15:57.540 --> 00:15:59.490 you cannot financially be viable. 343 00:15:59.490 --> 00:16:01.650 So, I call it cluster schools. 344 00:16:01.650 --> 00:16:02.740 Four schools. 345 00:16:02.740 --> 00:16:04.530 Two elementary, one middle, one high school 346 00:16:04.530 --> 00:16:09.530 creates 2396 kids in one cluster. 347 00:16:10.230 --> 00:16:12.920 But the agency took it down to two. 348 00:16:12.920 --> 00:16:14.640 Which I have to basically go back 349 00:16:14.640 --> 00:16:16.630 and look at and study. 350 00:16:16.630 --> 00:16:18.710 And then create the ideal model to make sure 351 00:16:18.710 --> 00:16:20.443 financially viable continually. 352 00:16:21.391 --> 00:16:23.180 So, have you made any projections 353 00:16:23.180 --> 00:16:26.177 on will it be two elementaries in Houston 354 00:16:26.177 --> 00:16:27.410 and two in Austin? 355 00:16:27.410 --> 00:16:28.759 Or do you still plan to do. 356 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:30.440 So, I start with K-2, sir. 357 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:33.400 K-2 grades with 280 students. 358 00:16:33.400 --> 00:16:37.058 And everything is based on 19 years experience. 359 00:16:37.058 --> 00:16:38.140 And then. 360 00:16:38.140 --> 00:16:40.060 I guess my question is do you anticipate 361 00:16:40.060 --> 00:16:42.810 you moving all your campuses to one of those two cities 362 00:16:42.810 --> 00:16:45.343 or still starting elementary schools in each one 363 00:16:45.343 --> 00:16:46.920 with the changes in the proposal? 364 00:16:46.920 --> 00:16:47.753 Yes, sir. 365 00:16:47.753 --> 00:16:48.730 Two separate places. 366 00:16:48.730 --> 00:16:50.820 And you're still anticipating to be 367 00:16:50.820 --> 00:16:52.510 in the Blanton Elementary? 368 00:16:52.510 --> 00:16:54.837 Or just middle and elementary school? 369 00:16:54.837 --> 00:16:55.670 Burnet. 370 00:16:55.670 --> 00:16:56.503 Burnet, I'm sorry. 371 00:16:56.503 --> 00:16:57.336 In Austin. 372 00:16:57.336 --> 00:16:58.169 Is that correct? 373 00:16:58.169 --> 00:16:59.470 Do you still anticipate to be 374 00:16:59.470 --> 00:17:01.870 in Alief Independent School District in Houston? 375 00:17:01.870 --> 00:17:05.844 Well, I think there's some pushback from Alief ISD. 376 00:17:05.844 --> 00:17:09.406 I mean, again, I have to say this. 377 00:17:09.406 --> 00:17:12.810 I'm a public school product. 378 00:17:12.810 --> 00:17:14.907 And charter schools are public school. 379 00:17:14.907 --> 00:17:16.370 People who know me. 380 00:17:16.370 --> 00:17:19.270 I will never speak against public schools. 381 00:17:19.270 --> 00:17:21.160 But, as part of our charter application. 382 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:23.540 And the question ask. 383 00:17:23.540 --> 00:17:25.080 Demonstrate there's a need there. 384 00:17:25.080 --> 00:17:26.720 Demonstrate school need. 385 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:29.780 I have to put numbers there based on the TEA data. 386 00:17:29.780 --> 00:17:32.053 The data available to me. 387 00:17:32.053 --> 00:17:35.500 And I've studied. 388 00:17:35.500 --> 00:17:38.800 I mean, I've been studying Houston, Austin, major cities. 389 00:17:38.800 --> 00:17:40.640 I have done this for Harmony many, many years. 390 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:43.110 I identify the need area. 391 00:17:43.110 --> 00:17:47.450 But I understand that superintendent of Alief ISD 392 00:17:47.450 --> 00:17:50.030 is not happy that I'm gonna be there. 393 00:17:50.030 --> 00:17:54.520 And I told agency, "If you want me to add a location." 394 00:17:54.520 --> 00:17:57.100 Which I have identified many location in Houston 395 00:17:57.100 --> 00:17:58.452 that there's a need. 396 00:17:58.452 --> 00:18:00.210 Lots of bad schools. 397 00:18:00.210 --> 00:18:01.517 I'm happy to do so. 398 00:18:01.517 --> 00:18:03.260 And I know I can't. 399 00:18:03.260 --> 00:18:05.210 You have to do this with your board and so forth. 400 00:18:05.210 --> 00:18:06.620 But can you give us some idea of, 401 00:18:06.620 --> 00:18:08.330 if it's not in Alief, what are some of 402 00:18:08.330 --> 00:18:11.040 those other target areas of Houston that 403 00:18:11.040 --> 00:18:12.729 you might potentially get to? 404 00:18:12.729 --> 00:18:14.360 So, my second backup location, 405 00:18:14.360 --> 00:18:16.150 which I did not put in the application. 406 00:18:16.150 --> 00:18:18.780 I'm happy to share this with the agency 407 00:18:18.780 --> 00:18:20.900 and with the members. 408 00:18:20.900 --> 00:18:22.401 That it's the northwest side. 409 00:18:22.401 --> 00:18:25.310 Which is bordered with the Spring Branch ISD 410 00:18:25.310 --> 00:18:26.520 and Houston ISD. 411 00:18:26.520 --> 00:18:27.513 This actual location. 412 00:18:27.513 --> 00:18:30.550 It's not exactly Alief ISD. 413 00:18:30.550 --> 00:18:33.630 It's the border between Alief and Houston ISD. 414 00:18:33.630 --> 00:18:38.490 And the second backup location that I have is right on I-10 415 00:18:40.010 --> 00:18:44.029 and between Spring Branch ISD and Houston ISD. 416 00:18:44.029 --> 00:18:45.530 And there are five schools that are identified 417 00:18:45.530 --> 00:18:47.720 within three miles that have F rating 418 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:50.537 based on Children at Risk report in Houston. 419 00:18:50.537 --> 00:18:52.500 And one last clarifying question. 420 00:18:52.500 --> 00:18:54.332 And I know we've kind of talked about this. 421 00:18:54.332 --> 00:18:55.165 And you heard it in some of the other ones. 422 00:18:55.165 --> 00:18:58.990 But on clarity of what the designations were. 423 00:18:58.990 --> 00:19:01.057 I think, in part of your application, 424 00:19:01.057 --> 00:19:03.030 you said that Texas Education Agency 425 00:19:03.030 --> 00:19:05.850 had described these campuses within a four mile radius 426 00:19:05.850 --> 00:19:07.380 as failing campuses. 427 00:19:07.380 --> 00:19:08.710 There are no failing campuses 428 00:19:08.710 --> 00:19:11.220 in the TEA accountability system. 429 00:19:11.220 --> 00:19:12.870 As there are failing districts. 430 00:19:12.870 --> 00:19:14.240 But there's not a failing campus. 431 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:16.800 I just would like you to maybe make note that 432 00:19:16.800 --> 00:19:20.810 there's not, by the TEA system, a failing campus. 433 00:19:20.810 --> 00:19:22.340 That is correct, sir. 434 00:19:22.340 --> 00:19:23.850 Thank you for asking. 435 00:19:23.850 --> 00:19:27.496 So, in my application, if you'll look at the handouts, 436 00:19:27.496 --> 00:19:31.230 it clearly says it's based on the Children at Risk report. 437 00:19:31.230 --> 00:19:32.063 Those credential. 438 00:19:32.063 --> 00:19:34.023 If they were rated based on what we know, 439 00:19:34.023 --> 00:19:36.683 those campus will get that rating. 440 00:19:38.610 --> 00:19:39.850 But, yes, that's correct. 441 00:19:39.850 --> 00:19:43.400 Last year, only district had a letter rating. 442 00:19:43.400 --> 00:19:46.270 And campus will receive that rating later on. 443 00:19:46.270 --> 00:19:50.200 But my definition is based on Children at Risk. 444 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:51.980 I also mention in the application that 445 00:19:51.980 --> 00:19:54.690 those are improvement required campuses. 446 00:19:54.690 --> 00:19:57.087 So, kind of like. 447 00:19:57.087 --> 00:20:00.993 Clearly defined it, yes. 448 00:20:02.140 --> 00:20:03.333 Okay, thank you. 449 00:20:06.320 --> 00:20:10.000 Mister Maynard, Miss Davis, Mister Allen, 450 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:12.580 Miss Perez, and Miss Hardy a second time. 451 00:20:12.580 --> 00:20:13.623 Lots of questions. 452 00:20:14.955 --> 00:20:15.788 Lots of questions. 453 00:20:15.788 --> 00:20:18.116 And I represent half of Travis County. 454 00:20:18.116 --> 00:20:20.673 And so, do you recognize this? 455 00:20:22.147 --> 00:20:24.780 What's been your conversation with Austin ISD? 456 00:20:24.780 --> 00:20:27.537 What's been the interaction with Austin ISD? 457 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:33.900 Not part of the process? 458 00:20:33.900 --> 00:20:35.050 You didn't do anything? 459 00:20:36.142 --> 00:20:40.577 But you're proposing to occupy Austin ISD? 460 00:20:41.744 --> 00:20:44.060 But you've not had any interaction? 461 00:20:44.060 --> 00:20:48.477 (response too faint to hear clearly) 462 00:20:51.070 --> 00:20:52.529 Okay. 463 00:20:52.529 --> 00:20:56.483 And I'm just asking where. 464 00:20:57.650 --> 00:21:01.133 This presentation says failing schools, Austin. 465 00:21:02.090 --> 00:21:05.060 And so, when I talk to their trustees 466 00:21:05.060 --> 00:21:06.820 and I talk to their leadership, 467 00:21:06.820 --> 00:21:08.923 they say these are not failing schools. 468 00:21:15.550 --> 00:21:16.383 Sorry. 469 00:21:16.383 --> 00:21:19.570 I provided handouts based on Children at Risk 470 00:21:19.570 --> 00:21:23.430 for very reliable data that I rely on. 471 00:21:23.430 --> 00:21:24.483 And those are. 472 00:21:25.934 --> 00:21:27.767 So, what's your. 473 00:21:27.767 --> 00:21:31.347 If I can drill down into what you're saying is that 474 00:21:32.650 --> 00:21:35.030 you are specifically looking at 475 00:21:35.030 --> 00:21:37.640 at risk students as a subpopulation. 476 00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:38.900 That is correct, sir. 477 00:21:38.900 --> 00:21:42.810 I will also add that those. 478 00:21:42.810 --> 00:21:45.311 In my application, I identified which one 479 00:21:45.311 --> 00:21:48.940 are possible F schools. 480 00:21:48.940 --> 00:21:52.150 I also looked at most recent. 481 00:21:52.150 --> 00:21:56.373 In the handout, you will see most recent data by TEA. 482 00:21:57.335 --> 00:21:59.490 ISD data itself. 483 00:21:59.490 --> 00:22:00.870 Actually on their website. 484 00:22:00.870 --> 00:22:02.280 It shows that Burnet. 485 00:22:02.280 --> 00:22:03.510 We were talking about Burnet Elementary. 486 00:22:03.510 --> 00:22:05.810 I mean, I hate to talk about this in public. 487 00:22:05.810 --> 00:22:09.023 But it shows improve required. 488 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:12.730 What they claimed yesterday was not accurate. 489 00:22:13.960 --> 00:22:17.391 And especially in student growth and student achievement. 490 00:22:17.391 --> 00:22:19.690 Both Burnet Elementary School is improve required. 491 00:22:19.690 --> 00:22:24.690 It's in the TEA website, 2018, and also ISD website. 492 00:22:25.890 --> 00:22:28.620 And you got a copy in the handout. 493 00:22:28.620 --> 00:22:31.863 I do kind of have concerns with. 494 00:22:33.050 --> 00:22:35.810 And, particularly, when we take a subpopulation, 495 00:22:35.810 --> 00:22:37.752 we understand that certain subpopulations 496 00:22:37.752 --> 00:22:41.003 in certain schools struggle. 497 00:22:42.030 --> 00:22:47.030 Particularly students who are socioeconomically challenged. 498 00:22:48.610 --> 00:22:50.070 But that doesn't necessarily mean that 499 00:22:50.070 --> 00:22:51.629 that's a failing school. 500 00:22:51.629 --> 00:22:53.950 The definition is not my definition. 501 00:22:53.950 --> 00:22:55.730 When I wrote the charter, really, 502 00:22:55.730 --> 00:22:57.870 I rely on the resources. 503 00:22:57.870 --> 00:23:00.460 I provided every resource reference in the application. 504 00:23:00.460 --> 00:23:02.883 So, yes. 505 00:23:04.092 --> 00:23:09.092 And, to be clear, I think that you're trying to 506 00:23:10.020 --> 00:23:11.650 promote a particular position. 507 00:23:11.650 --> 00:23:12.921 That is correct, sir. 508 00:23:12.921 --> 00:23:13.754 I get that. 509 00:23:13.754 --> 00:23:14.890 It's a little bit of salesmanship. 510 00:23:14.890 --> 00:23:16.470 And, frankly, the school district 511 00:23:16.470 --> 00:23:17.590 is defending their position. 512 00:23:17.590 --> 00:23:18.600 That is correct. 513 00:23:18.600 --> 00:23:19.810 You know, the truth of most things, 514 00:23:19.810 --> 00:23:21.980 it's probably somewhere in between. 515 00:23:21.980 --> 00:23:24.840 It's not exactly as black and white as you say it is 516 00:23:24.840 --> 00:23:26.288 or that they say it is. 517 00:23:26.288 --> 00:23:27.121 That is correct. 518 00:23:27.121 --> 00:23:28.070 I mean, I agree. 519 00:23:28.070 --> 00:23:30.830 I apologize, again, for making this public. 520 00:23:30.830 --> 00:23:32.860 But this was in the application. 521 00:23:32.860 --> 00:23:34.569 It's public information. 522 00:23:34.569 --> 00:23:39.569 If the schools are rated next year based on these numbers, 523 00:23:39.830 --> 00:23:42.987 they are gonna be rated with the letters. 524 00:23:42.987 --> 00:23:47.270 Okay, when I looked into the overview 525 00:23:47.270 --> 00:23:48.773 of anticipated need, 526 00:23:50.010 --> 00:23:53.010 when we got down to the English language learners 527 00:23:53.010 --> 00:23:54.973 that's on page nine of the application, 528 00:23:56.468 --> 00:24:01.468 I see a Royal Academy Houston 25% anticipated. 529 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:05.250 I see Alief ISD at 22.8. 530 00:24:05.250 --> 00:24:06.090 Houston, I see four. 531 00:24:06.090 --> 00:24:09.020 I don't see anything for Austin. 532 00:24:09.020 --> 00:24:10.070 I'm glad that you asked, sir. 533 00:24:10.070 --> 00:24:12.720 So, unfortunately, in the application, 534 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:14.390 the application format that we have, 535 00:24:14.390 --> 00:24:16.710 there is no place for the second school. 536 00:24:16.710 --> 00:24:20.240 So, since I am applying two locations, 537 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:21.627 I asked the agency. 538 00:24:21.627 --> 00:24:24.487 "So, I have only one place for Royal Houston. 539 00:24:24.487 --> 00:24:27.160 What about opening a school in Austin? 540 00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:28.080 Can I have another column?" 541 00:24:28.080 --> 00:24:30.390 It's impossible to insert column there. 542 00:24:30.390 --> 00:24:32.147 It's part of the technical difficulty. 543 00:24:32.147 --> 00:24:34.260 So, I choose one location. 544 00:24:34.260 --> 00:24:39.130 And those numbers represent the average of. 545 00:24:39.130 --> 00:24:42.933 And I understand, if I put school in any neighborhood, 546 00:24:44.450 --> 00:24:47.100 it will 99% reflect the neighborhood school. 547 00:24:47.100 --> 00:24:49.690 So, these numbers are not Austin ISD numbers. 548 00:24:49.690 --> 00:24:51.603 I mean, I just. 549 00:24:53.120 --> 00:24:54.320 I don't represent Houston. 550 00:24:54.320 --> 00:24:55.227 I represent Austin. 551 00:24:55.227 --> 00:24:57.150 And so, here's my concern is that. 552 00:24:58.720 --> 00:25:01.770 I'm assuming, then, that you have looked at that. 553 00:25:01.770 --> 00:25:03.953 Do you understand what the need is for ELL? 554 00:25:03.953 --> 00:25:04.869 That is correct. 555 00:25:04.869 --> 00:25:05.702 Can you tell me what it is? 556 00:25:05.702 --> 00:25:08.730 Well, it varies from school to school. 557 00:25:08.730 --> 00:25:12.190 But, when I open school in that area, 558 00:25:12.190 --> 00:25:14.930 it's gonna be exact same numbers. 559 00:25:14.930 --> 00:25:15.980 You don't know what the number is? 560 00:25:15.980 --> 00:25:18.834 I know it's about 50% ELL. 561 00:25:18.834 --> 00:25:21.110 I mean, we've got, in some cases, 562 00:25:21.110 --> 00:25:23.190 it's closer to 90%. 563 00:25:23.190 --> 00:25:24.320 Sir, I have several schools. 564 00:25:24.320 --> 00:25:25.573 I was a. 565 00:25:27.860 --> 00:25:28.693 You need my vote. 566 00:25:28.693 --> 00:25:29.947 I represent Austin, right? 567 00:25:31.149 --> 00:25:35.670 So, you've left out part of my constituency. 568 00:25:35.670 --> 00:25:37.232 It's not up to me. 569 00:25:37.232 --> 00:25:38.083 It was. 570 00:25:38.083 --> 00:25:41.935 You know, as clever as you are, 571 00:25:41.935 --> 00:25:45.263 I think that there's a way to overcome the. 572 00:25:45.263 --> 00:25:49.223 If it were me, I would find a way to articulate it. 573 00:25:50.530 --> 00:25:53.270 Certainly, I mean, I articulate in the text section. 574 00:25:53.270 --> 00:25:54.500 But not in the table section. 575 00:25:54.500 --> 00:25:57.063 Because, again, table did not allow me to insert. 576 00:26:01.131 --> 00:26:04.900 I articulated in the text portion. 577 00:26:04.900 --> 00:26:06.350 But not in the table portion. 578 00:26:08.670 --> 00:26:10.913 I don't have any further questions at this time. 579 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:15.840 Miss Davis, then Mister Allen, then Miss Perez, 580 00:26:15.840 --> 00:26:19.170 then Miss Hardy and Doctor Ellis. 581 00:26:19.170 --> 00:26:20.500 And it's their second turn. 582 00:26:20.500 --> 00:26:24.298 So, someone else might get ahead of you guys. 583 00:26:24.298 --> 00:26:25.131 Thank you. 584 00:26:25.131 --> 00:26:28.340 So, you mention that you got pushback from Alief. 585 00:26:28.340 --> 00:26:31.620 And so, you more than likely are gonna 586 00:26:31.620 --> 00:26:33.170 reevaluate whether or not 587 00:26:33.170 --> 00:26:35.790 you're gonna move to that area, correct? 588 00:26:35.790 --> 00:26:40.280 If agency or this body asked me to do so, I'm happy. 589 00:26:40.280 --> 00:26:41.700 Yes, ma'am. 590 00:26:41.700 --> 00:26:45.020 My goal is to serve the children of Texas. 591 00:26:45.020 --> 00:26:46.271 Where there's a need. 592 00:26:46.271 --> 00:26:48.210 And I have done so. 593 00:26:48.210 --> 00:26:52.337 This is my commitment to State Board of Education members 594 00:26:52.337 --> 00:26:54.090 and the agency. 595 00:26:54.090 --> 00:26:55.360 Just reflecting on what you said 596 00:26:55.360 --> 00:26:57.860 about maybe not building in Alief, 597 00:26:57.860 --> 00:27:00.110 like you had originally proposed. 598 00:27:00.110 --> 00:27:01.010 You said you got some pushback. 599 00:27:01.010 --> 00:27:03.210 And so, that made you reflect on 600 00:27:03.210 --> 00:27:04.580 whether or not you were going to 601 00:27:04.580 --> 00:27:07.240 go ahead and move forward with the Alief. 602 00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:09.140 No, agency asked me. 603 00:27:09.140 --> 00:27:11.650 So, I will honor that, yes. 604 00:27:11.650 --> 00:27:14.890 All right, so, I guess I'm asking you that particularly 605 00:27:14.890 --> 00:27:17.200 because it seems like you value 606 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:19.520 what the community says about your schools. 607 00:27:19.520 --> 00:27:22.129 And it seems like Austin community 608 00:27:22.129 --> 00:27:24.070 wasn't too happy about it. 609 00:27:24.070 --> 00:27:25.910 Just like the community in Alabama 610 00:27:25.910 --> 00:27:27.580 hasn't been too happy about it. 611 00:27:27.580 --> 00:27:29.910 So, I'm just wondering if you would consider 612 00:27:29.910 --> 00:27:32.320 what they've asked for. 613 00:27:32.320 --> 00:27:35.490 And that's for you not to be in their communities. 614 00:27:35.490 --> 00:27:36.790 If you consider that at all. 615 00:27:36.790 --> 00:27:38.702 Because you said you hadn't had many conversations 616 00:27:38.702 --> 00:27:41.503 with Austin leadership. 617 00:27:44.300 --> 00:27:46.848 Are you asking Austin, I assume? 618 00:27:46.848 --> 00:27:48.030 Yes. 619 00:27:48.030 --> 00:27:51.276 So, I mean, so far, what I heard. 620 00:27:51.276 --> 00:27:54.700 The testimony from yesterday from the Austin leadership. 621 00:27:54.700 --> 00:27:56.120 I have great respect for them. 622 00:27:56.120 --> 00:27:57.770 What they do in the school system. 623 00:27:57.770 --> 00:27:58.603 No question. 624 00:27:58.603 --> 00:28:03.560 You know how hard it is to run school and open schools. 625 00:28:03.560 --> 00:28:04.393 It's difficult. 626 00:28:04.393 --> 00:28:06.940 Especially large school district like Austin, Houston. 627 00:28:06.940 --> 00:28:08.200 It's not easy. 628 00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:11.510 But, obviously, nobody wants competition. 629 00:28:11.510 --> 00:28:13.433 Nobody will like competition. 630 00:28:15.620 --> 00:28:16.908 Even if I have conversation. 631 00:28:16.908 --> 00:28:17.741 Which I had conversation with 632 00:28:17.741 --> 00:28:19.700 many school district in the past. 633 00:28:19.700 --> 00:28:21.010 District leaders. 634 00:28:21.010 --> 00:28:22.590 And I actually, last year. 635 00:28:22.590 --> 00:28:26.993 It was intended to put an agreement through SB-82. 636 00:28:29.300 --> 00:28:30.290 1882. 637 00:28:30.290 --> 00:28:32.753 And I couldn't find any school district 638 00:28:32.753 --> 00:28:35.120 that would actually allow us to be partner 639 00:28:35.120 --> 00:28:36.764 and have a school in their district. 640 00:28:36.764 --> 00:28:38.300 I don't want to say failing. 641 00:28:38.300 --> 00:28:40.450 But struggling schools. 642 00:28:40.450 --> 00:28:43.630 So, it goes both ways. 643 00:28:43.630 --> 00:28:46.027 But they were allowing other charters 644 00:28:46.027 --> 00:28:46.860 to establish those partnerships. 645 00:28:46.860 --> 00:28:48.607 Just not you, correct? 646 00:28:48.607 --> 00:28:51.080 I don't know if any other charter school 647 00:28:51.080 --> 00:28:53.670 was allowed in Austin ISD. 648 00:28:53.670 --> 00:28:55.289 No, no, you said Texas. 649 00:28:55.289 --> 00:28:56.320 You said you didn't find anybody. 650 00:28:56.320 --> 00:28:58.870 Only one school that I know, last year, 651 00:28:58.870 --> 00:29:01.000 was allowed to be partnership in a rural area. 652 00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:02.020 That's all I know. 653 00:29:02.020 --> 00:29:04.252 Just one out of 1200 districts. 654 00:29:04.252 --> 00:29:06.159 Oh, we have one in my area in Grand Prairie. 655 00:29:06.159 --> 00:29:07.783 You should look into that. 656 00:29:07.783 --> 00:29:08.616 Thank you. 657 00:29:08.616 --> 00:29:09.557 That's one of them, yes. 658 00:29:09.557 --> 00:29:13.480 Okay, I have a couple other questions. 659 00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:15.770 So, let's say my son. 660 00:29:15.770 --> 00:29:16.603 I don't have kids. 661 00:29:16.603 --> 00:29:18.160 But this is my hypothetical son. 662 00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:20.330 My son has a discipline record. 663 00:29:20.330 --> 00:29:22.560 He's been in ISS a few times. 664 00:29:22.560 --> 00:29:24.640 I'll tell you why in just a little bit. 665 00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:26.240 But could you describe the process 666 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:27.810 of how you would exclude my son 667 00:29:27.810 --> 00:29:30.040 and make sure he can't enroll in your school? 668 00:29:30.040 --> 00:29:31.360 And how you would deny him 669 00:29:31.360 --> 00:29:33.513 his free and appropriate public education? 670 00:29:34.840 --> 00:29:37.540 Miss Davis, your son will be welcome to our schools. 671 00:29:37.540 --> 00:29:41.737 As we welcome from private school all the time. 672 00:29:41.737 --> 00:29:43.777 We had that conversation at the first interview. 673 00:29:43.777 --> 00:29:45.410 And it says in your application that 674 00:29:45.410 --> 00:29:48.240 you won't allow a student with a disciplinary record. 675 00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:49.490 No, ma'am. 676 00:29:49.490 --> 00:29:51.340 Let me rephrase that correctly again. 677 00:29:52.320 --> 00:29:54.780 As part of the Texas charter school law, 678 00:29:54.780 --> 00:29:57.122 charter schools are not allowed to enroll 679 00:29:57.122 --> 00:30:00.640 student with demonstrated discipline issues, 680 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.983 like if they had guns, violence. 681 00:30:06.356 --> 00:30:08.090 If they have criminal records, 682 00:30:08.090 --> 00:30:10.910 charter schools have option not to enroll them. 683 00:30:10.910 --> 00:30:13.100 But, if they have an in school suspension, 684 00:30:13.100 --> 00:30:15.960 out of school suspension, anything, 685 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:18.710 we don't ask those in application. 686 00:30:18.710 --> 00:30:21.770 The only thing we ask is name, parents' name, 687 00:30:21.770 --> 00:30:24.300 and what grade level they're asking. 688 00:30:24.300 --> 00:30:25.150 That's all we ask. 689 00:30:25.150 --> 00:30:27.375 So, you will not ask for disciplinary records? 690 00:30:27.375 --> 00:30:28.208 No, ma'am. 691 00:30:28.208 --> 00:30:29.357 Not all the charter schools ask. 692 00:30:29.357 --> 00:30:33.840 Again, 19 years I have been doing this. 693 00:30:33.840 --> 00:30:36.260 We have never exclude any student with discipline issues. 694 00:30:36.260 --> 00:30:37.093 Not even actual. 695 00:30:37.093 --> 00:30:40.480 We have never asked anybody if they had criminal background. 696 00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:41.650 We don't do that. 697 00:30:41.650 --> 00:30:43.930 Even if we say in an application. 698 00:30:43.930 --> 00:30:46.730 I don't remember any time during the 35000 kids 699 00:30:46.730 --> 00:30:49.510 that we asked somebody to leave the school. 700 00:30:49.510 --> 00:30:50.343 Never. 701 00:30:52.116 --> 00:30:53.377 Okay, and one more. 702 00:30:53.377 --> 00:30:56.343 Can you describe your teacher recruitment plan? 703 00:30:57.460 --> 00:30:58.293 Yes, ma'am. 704 00:30:58.293 --> 00:31:02.830 So, there are multiple phases for teacher recruitment. 705 00:31:02.830 --> 00:31:04.430 First and foremost, obviously, 706 00:31:04.430 --> 00:31:09.430 our partnership with local education service centers. 707 00:31:10.345 --> 00:31:12.450 Minotem has great certification program. 708 00:31:12.450 --> 00:31:15.440 I was a board member for six years. 709 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:17.422 So, I know what kind of program they run. 710 00:31:17.422 --> 00:31:19.670 So, we go ask. 711 00:31:19.670 --> 00:31:21.200 Basically try to hire. 712 00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:22.910 Recruit people from there. 713 00:31:22.910 --> 00:31:26.025 And, first thing first, we take resumes. 714 00:31:26.025 --> 00:31:29.210 And, based on the resume review screening, 715 00:31:29.210 --> 00:31:32.800 we call them for in person or a phone interview. 716 00:31:32.800 --> 00:31:34.110 And, as a result of phone interview, 717 00:31:34.110 --> 00:31:35.200 we call them in person interview. 718 00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:36.840 There are multiple phase. 719 00:31:36.840 --> 00:31:38.130 Following in person interview, 720 00:31:38.130 --> 00:31:41.330 we have mock teaching practice for each teacher. 721 00:31:41.330 --> 00:31:42.910 And then, following that, 722 00:31:42.910 --> 00:31:44.513 we have a group of people. 723 00:31:44.513 --> 00:31:46.696 Just not one person. 724 00:31:46.696 --> 00:31:49.244 But principal, a STEM principal, 725 00:31:49.244 --> 00:31:50.860 and one of the subject matter teacher 726 00:31:50.860 --> 00:31:52.733 will agree and hire this person. 727 00:31:54.650 --> 00:31:56.720 A hiring plan. I was just wondering about recruitment. 728 00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:58.460 Like where will you be finding your teachers from? 729 00:31:58.460 --> 00:32:00.770 Teachers From America, local universities. 730 00:32:00.770 --> 00:32:03.463 Oh, yeah, most of the teachers that we hire, 731 00:32:03.463 --> 00:32:05.770 ma'am, is from Houston area or Austin area. 732 00:32:05.770 --> 00:32:09.540 And we go with job fairs and universities, 733 00:32:09.540 --> 00:32:11.440 alternative program, education service center. 734 00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:15.181 I mean, every other people that go find teachers, 735 00:32:15.181 --> 00:32:17.523 we pretty much follow the same pattern. 736 00:32:22.070 --> 00:32:22.923 Mister Allen. 737 00:32:22.923 --> 00:32:24.303 Then Miss Perez. 738 00:32:25.610 --> 00:32:27.380 And Doctor Ellis. 739 00:32:27.380 --> 00:32:30.470 No, it's your first time, isn't it? 740 00:32:30.470 --> 00:32:32.703 Okay, then you're after Miss Perez. 741 00:32:33.590 --> 00:32:35.300 Doctor Soner, I don't want to pretend 742 00:32:35.300 --> 00:32:37.050 like I don't know that I'm asking you 743 00:32:37.050 --> 00:32:39.620 questions that we haven't been 744 00:32:39.620 --> 00:32:41.430 talking for the last 10 years. 745 00:32:41.430 --> 00:32:42.730 Because we have. 746 00:32:42.730 --> 00:32:45.320 And I have been probably to every campus that you have 747 00:32:45.320 --> 00:32:46.587 had leadership over. 748 00:32:46.587 --> 00:32:48.635 And we walked those campuses. 749 00:32:48.635 --> 00:32:50.370 And we've had conversations about 750 00:32:50.370 --> 00:32:53.760 some of this stuff that appeared on my desk over the years 751 00:32:53.760 --> 00:32:55.719 in terms of Turkey and what have you. 752 00:32:55.719 --> 00:32:58.094 So, I just want to apologize for that, 753 00:32:58.094 --> 00:32:59.520 because I know the work that's been done 754 00:32:59.520 --> 00:33:00.780 to make sure that children are getting 755 00:33:00.780 --> 00:33:02.670 a quality education under your leadership 756 00:33:02.670 --> 00:33:04.120 while you were there. 757 00:33:04.120 --> 00:33:05.235 But my question is. 758 00:33:05.235 --> 00:33:08.486 And this was my concern 16 years ago. 759 00:33:08.486 --> 00:33:11.020 Today, you must be doing pretty good, 760 00:33:11.020 --> 00:33:14.530 'cause you requested eight schools. 761 00:33:14.530 --> 00:33:17.930 And right now we're discussing four. 762 00:33:17.930 --> 00:33:19.343 I want to hear from you what is 763 00:33:19.343 --> 00:33:21.263 your five and your 10 year plan? 764 00:33:22.220 --> 00:33:27.220 So, as I said in my previous charter life, Harmony, 765 00:33:29.542 --> 00:33:32.297 I told this body and the agency, 766 00:33:32.297 --> 00:33:34.173 "As long as schools are successful, 767 00:33:35.830 --> 00:33:37.480 we're going to continue replicate 768 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:39.610 in a place where there's a need." 769 00:33:39.610 --> 00:33:41.920 And I cannot predict right now. 770 00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:45.550 Because the reason I choose four schools 771 00:33:45.550 --> 00:33:48.040 clustered in two cities. 772 00:33:48.040 --> 00:33:51.200 I want to demonstrate this cluster level work really work. 773 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:52.670 And then, once it works, 774 00:33:52.670 --> 00:33:54.090 the agency will make a determination 775 00:33:54.090 --> 00:33:56.370 on whether I need to replicate or not. 776 00:33:56.370 --> 00:33:59.090 And the demand from the parents. 777 00:33:59.090 --> 00:34:02.478 So far, what I have done at Harmony. 778 00:34:02.478 --> 00:34:03.890 I mean, there's. 779 00:34:03.890 --> 00:34:07.160 Any place that we open school, there's a huge demand. 780 00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:11.010 When I left Harmony, in addition to 35000 students, 781 00:34:11.010 --> 00:34:15.090 we had 25000 applications every year. 782 00:34:15.090 --> 00:34:16.503 Only 2000 gets in. 783 00:34:18.040 --> 00:34:23.040 So, I mean, right now, my five year projection 784 00:34:23.220 --> 00:34:26.710 is what I describe in this application. 785 00:34:26.710 --> 00:34:30.200 And, beyond that, it's up to the agency 786 00:34:30.200 --> 00:34:32.780 to continue to give me charter to replicate. 787 00:34:32.780 --> 00:34:35.250 Whereas I believe in your ability to lead campuses, 788 00:34:35.250 --> 00:34:38.230 I came here today because I was thinking that 789 00:34:38.230 --> 00:34:40.190 we were establishing this school in third ward 790 00:34:40.190 --> 00:34:42.026 and I was against that. 791 00:34:42.026 --> 00:34:42.859 I was totally against that. 792 00:34:42.859 --> 00:34:45.340 I stated earlier about third ward. 793 00:34:45.340 --> 00:34:47.880 And maybe people don't realize that 794 00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:50.660 30% of Alief is in my district. 795 00:34:50.660 --> 00:34:53.250 And I'm always concerned about the impact. 796 00:34:53.250 --> 00:34:55.150 And you've addressed that to some degree. 797 00:34:55.150 --> 00:34:57.122 So, I wanted to go on record in saying that 798 00:34:57.122 --> 00:35:00.791 the third ward is a no for me. 799 00:35:00.791 --> 00:35:02.530 And just consider that. 800 00:35:02.530 --> 00:35:04.040 And the consideration on looking 801 00:35:04.040 --> 00:35:07.217 where you are planning your campuses is important. 802 00:35:07.217 --> 00:35:10.320 If you do plan to go into Alief, I would appreciate a call. 803 00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:11.420 If you are successful. 804 00:35:14.290 --> 00:35:15.123 Let's see. 805 00:35:15.123 --> 00:35:16.283 It is Miss Perez. 806 00:35:18.680 --> 00:35:19.530 Good afternoon. 807 00:35:21.180 --> 00:35:23.780 I have six pages of questions for you. 808 00:35:26.260 --> 00:35:29.100 Your original application specifically stated that 809 00:35:29.100 --> 00:35:32.990 the Royal facilities would be located in Alief ISD. 810 00:35:32.990 --> 00:35:34.803 Because there were six low performing schools 811 00:35:34.803 --> 00:35:38.750 in a four mile radius of Sneed Elementary. 812 00:35:38.750 --> 00:35:43.750 In 2017-18, three of those schools were not rated 813 00:35:43.950 --> 00:35:44.783 because of Harvey. 814 00:35:44.783 --> 00:35:46.920 And three met standard. 815 00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:49.757 In 2016-17, five met standard 816 00:35:49.757 --> 00:35:52.697 and only Sneed was low performing. 817 00:35:52.697 --> 00:35:56.220 So, I'm assuming that was an oversight, error, 818 00:35:56.220 --> 00:35:58.523 accident on your application. 819 00:36:00.475 --> 00:36:04.480 Miss Perez, again, my numbers I put in the application. 820 00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:05.840 At the time when I wrote this application, 821 00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:07.190 whatever data available to me. 822 00:36:07.190 --> 00:36:09.220 And I provide references. 823 00:36:09.220 --> 00:36:10.720 And I put those numbers. 824 00:36:10.720 --> 00:36:13.787 So, I go by what I read in 825 00:36:13.787 --> 00:36:17.180 the credible resources that's available. 826 00:36:17.180 --> 00:36:20.640 Whether TEA or Children at Risk in Houston. 827 00:36:20.640 --> 00:36:22.530 And those are the data that I will say. 828 00:36:22.530 --> 00:36:24.670 I don't change numbers. 829 00:36:24.670 --> 00:36:28.433 I just put whatever is in the, you know, source. 830 00:36:29.370 --> 00:36:32.303 Well, I will tell you my resource is TEA. 831 00:36:33.404 --> 00:36:35.560 So, it appears that, perhaps. 832 00:36:35.560 --> 00:36:38.453 And, again, correct me if I'm misstating this. 833 00:36:39.720 --> 00:36:44.430 Royal has created a personal Royal-specific rating system 834 00:36:44.430 --> 00:36:48.410 based on student data, your own parental survey, 835 00:36:48.410 --> 00:36:51.940 a wait list that has not quite been clarified as to how, 836 00:36:51.940 --> 00:36:54.090 if students are on multiple wait lists 837 00:36:54.090 --> 00:36:56.193 for a variety of charter schools. 838 00:36:57.217 --> 00:36:59.310 It has not been quantified. 839 00:36:59.310 --> 00:37:01.500 There's school rating data. 840 00:37:01.500 --> 00:37:04.040 And I believe our data, 841 00:37:04.040 --> 00:37:06.663 your application and my information, don't match. 842 00:37:07.900 --> 00:37:10.070 The available space to build a school 843 00:37:10.070 --> 00:37:11.470 and a limited number of schools 844 00:37:11.470 --> 00:37:14.410 within the STREAM-360 program. 845 00:37:14.410 --> 00:37:17.040 The application also included Houston ISD 846 00:37:17.040 --> 00:37:18.300 with an overall boundary. 847 00:37:18.300 --> 00:37:22.470 But is specific to where the school would be located 848 00:37:22.470 --> 00:37:23.870 based on need. 849 00:37:23.870 --> 00:37:28.320 And, again, based on a Royal-specific rating system. 850 00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:30.970 Rather than the state's accountability system. 851 00:37:30.970 --> 00:37:33.017 So, for the record, I would like to know 852 00:37:33.017 --> 00:37:35.950 how exactly was the application amended 853 00:37:35.950 --> 00:37:37.528 and how did we get to a point where, 854 00:37:37.528 --> 00:37:40.587 when it was submitted, it was considering Alief 855 00:37:40.587 --> 00:37:42.590 and now it's not considering Alief? 856 00:37:42.590 --> 00:37:47.493 And this happened in just the last fewer than 24 hours. 857 00:37:48.520 --> 00:37:51.110 Miss Perez, I have not amended any application. 858 00:37:51.110 --> 00:37:53.503 This was just a discussion. 859 00:37:54.530 --> 00:37:55.954 This was just a discussion. 860 00:37:55.954 --> 00:38:00.680 But, again, as I stated earlier, I am happy to. 861 00:38:00.680 --> 00:38:03.910 The direction that I receive from this board 862 00:38:03.910 --> 00:38:07.310 and the agency that I can relocate. 863 00:38:07.310 --> 00:38:11.083 I have backup places that shows secondary schools. 864 00:38:14.255 --> 00:38:15.840 Right, if I could just clarify. 865 00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:20.223 That direction came from our office, from the agency. 866 00:38:21.254 --> 00:38:23.523 And not from Doctor Tarim. 867 00:38:24.410 --> 00:38:26.210 Okay, so, the agency is now saying 868 00:38:26.210 --> 00:38:28.270 you cannot go into Alief? 869 00:38:28.270 --> 00:38:30.300 Any reason why? 870 00:38:30.300 --> 00:38:31.530 Or you're recommending that. 871 00:38:31.530 --> 00:38:33.800 The recommendation for the four campuses 872 00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:37.040 was based on the feeder patterns 873 00:38:37.040 --> 00:38:39.310 and based on initial projections. 874 00:38:39.310 --> 00:38:42.360 If you look back at the recommendations that 875 00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.880 the commissioners made over the past at least seven years, 876 00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:50.400 we don't provide expensive numbers of campuses 877 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:52.010 in that initial application, 878 00:38:52.010 --> 00:38:53.740 because we want to make sure that 879 00:38:53.740 --> 00:38:57.800 our applicants demonstrate academic and financial viability. 880 00:38:57.800 --> 00:38:59.990 The other thing we do in the application process 881 00:38:59.990 --> 00:39:03.400 is we take into consideration all those impact statements. 882 00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:06.660 And, late in the process, 883 00:39:06.660 --> 00:39:09.650 we did receive a letter correspondence that 884 00:39:09.650 --> 00:39:11.750 the commissioner forwarded on to me 885 00:39:11.750 --> 00:39:13.633 that we took into consideration 886 00:39:13.633 --> 00:39:17.520 from Mister Chambers from Alief ISD. 887 00:39:17.520 --> 00:39:20.533 And that occurred in the last 24 hours? 888 00:39:21.497 --> 00:39:24.803 This has not just been the last 24 hours. 889 00:39:26.100 --> 00:39:26.933 No ma'am. 890 00:39:27.810 --> 00:39:30.610 Could I ask for a clarification of that just one second? 891 00:39:30.610 --> 00:39:34.820 And so, Miss Mosay, when the agency 892 00:39:34.820 --> 00:39:35.920 apparently made the suggestion 893 00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:37.230 to go from eight to four, 894 00:39:37.230 --> 00:39:39.210 the recommendation to go from eight to four, 895 00:39:39.210 --> 00:39:42.850 did that also include the locations 896 00:39:42.850 --> 00:39:46.290 or just the number from eight to four? 897 00:39:46.290 --> 00:39:49.540 So, the initial conversation was from eight to four. 898 00:39:49.540 --> 00:39:51.725 And then, when we got subsequent information 899 00:39:51.725 --> 00:39:54.630 from the impact statements, 900 00:39:54.630 --> 00:39:59.630 we mentioned that there is a lot of pushback 901 00:39:59.720 --> 00:40:03.154 in the Alief ISD area. 902 00:40:03.154 --> 00:40:07.480 As I've said many times, these proposals are proposals 903 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.910 and premature applicants are not in positions 904 00:40:10.910 --> 00:40:14.110 where they are able to solidify locations. 905 00:40:14.110 --> 00:40:17.520 The research they do is based on 906 00:40:17.520 --> 00:40:19.970 the data that's available to them. 907 00:40:19.970 --> 00:40:21.900 And so, I mentioned. 908 00:40:21.900 --> 00:40:26.900 And so, Doctor Tarim has agreed to look 909 00:40:27.390 --> 00:40:29.700 outside of the Alief area. 910 00:40:29.700 --> 00:40:30.660 Okay, thank you. 911 00:40:30.660 --> 00:40:32.820 Miss Perez, you can continue. 912 00:40:32.820 --> 00:40:37.820 So, just to add a bit to Miss Mosay's comments. 913 00:40:39.118 --> 00:40:44.118 Again, I could be misquoting, summarizing here. 914 00:40:44.210 --> 00:40:46.540 There was quite a bit of pushback from Alief, 915 00:40:46.540 --> 00:40:47.590 the Alief community. 916 00:40:47.590 --> 00:40:51.730 So, therefore, the locations have been revised. 917 00:40:51.730 --> 00:40:53.860 But there was quite a bit of pushback from Judson. 918 00:40:53.860 --> 00:40:56.400 There's quite a bit of pushback from Austin. 919 00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:58.455 There's been quite a bit of pushback from Houston. 920 00:40:58.455 --> 00:40:59.960 There's been quite a bit of pushback from everybody. 921 00:40:59.960 --> 00:41:03.180 But it seems odd to me that only the Alief location 922 00:41:03.180 --> 00:41:04.533 has been adjusted. 923 00:41:05.713 --> 00:41:07.670 Alief superintendent is the only one that 924 00:41:07.670 --> 00:41:10.570 sent us an extensive correspondence 925 00:41:10.570 --> 00:41:12.343 that we took into consideration. 926 00:41:13.550 --> 00:41:16.010 Only because H.D. Chambers communicated with you? 927 00:41:16.010 --> 00:41:18.900 And not any other superintendent communicated with you? 928 00:41:18.900 --> 00:41:20.650 From the list that I just repeated? 929 00:41:21.610 --> 00:41:23.200 Would that be an accurate statement? 930 00:41:23.200 --> 00:41:24.500 No, it would not. 931 00:41:24.500 --> 00:41:27.500 I could not testify absolutely. 932 00:41:27.500 --> 00:41:31.310 The impact statements have information 933 00:41:31.310 --> 00:41:34.537 where you can checkbox this is going to impact ADA. 934 00:41:34.537 --> 00:41:36.070 I would have to look at my notes. 935 00:41:36.070 --> 00:41:38.830 I know that we received impact statements 936 00:41:38.830 --> 00:41:41.723 stating it's going to impact ADA. 937 00:41:41.723 --> 00:41:44.640 I'll remind the board that, 938 00:41:44.640 --> 00:41:47.730 when students do leave a traditional ISD 939 00:41:47.730 --> 00:41:50.740 and go to a charter school, as been discussed, 940 00:41:50.740 --> 00:41:52.803 it does impact ADA. 941 00:41:52.803 --> 00:41:57.260 What we received from Superintendent Chambers 942 00:41:57.260 --> 00:42:00.570 was a much more extensive response 943 00:42:00.570 --> 00:42:02.120 that highlighted concerns. 944 00:42:02.120 --> 00:42:03.770 And so, there was more information 945 00:42:03.770 --> 00:42:05.360 to take into consideration. 946 00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:09.230 That does not mean that was the only one received. 947 00:42:09.230 --> 00:42:12.680 Okay, so, our superintendents need to have 948 00:42:12.680 --> 00:42:15.100 a much more extensive response. 949 00:42:15.100 --> 00:42:17.103 Okay, my next questions. 950 00:42:20.690 --> 00:42:21.773 English learners. 951 00:42:25.050 --> 00:42:28.280 I'm asking these questions because, on your application. 952 00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:30.650 And, again, this is numbers that I could be mistaken. 953 00:42:30.650 --> 00:42:32.130 So, please correct me. 954 00:42:32.130 --> 00:42:34.493 Your projection is 25%. 955 00:42:36.420 --> 00:42:37.900 Many of the locations that. 956 00:42:37.900 --> 00:42:39.557 I'm gonna go with the original application. 957 00:42:39.557 --> 00:42:41.320 And not the recent adjustments 958 00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:45.113 due to extensive communication with one superintendent. 959 00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:50.150 In Austin ISD, there is campuses ranging 960 00:42:50.150 --> 00:42:53.160 from 42% climbing as high as 80%. 961 00:42:53.160 --> 00:42:54.230 Same with Alief. 962 00:42:54.230 --> 00:42:55.967 Same with Houston ISD. 963 00:42:55.967 --> 00:42:56.800 So, I'm wondering. 964 00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:00.510 If you have a projection of 25% on your application, 965 00:43:00.510 --> 00:43:03.740 is this inferring to an intended cap 966 00:43:03.740 --> 00:43:05.070 on this particular demographic? 967 00:43:05.070 --> 00:43:07.450 Or is that a mistake on your application? 968 00:43:07.450 --> 00:43:08.283 No, ma'am. 969 00:43:08.283 --> 00:43:09.230 This is. 970 00:43:09.230 --> 00:43:13.343 In the application, I think page seven or nine, 971 00:43:14.200 --> 00:43:16.956 the agency asked us to list 972 00:43:16.956 --> 00:43:20.970 the school district that you were targeting first. 973 00:43:20.970 --> 00:43:22.970 And then two more adjacent school district. 974 00:43:22.970 --> 00:43:26.730 And they ask us to find out what is their demographics. 975 00:43:26.730 --> 00:43:27.570 And, based on that, 976 00:43:27.570 --> 00:43:30.370 what is your anticipated student enrollment? 977 00:43:30.370 --> 00:43:32.450 Or demographics? 978 00:43:32.450 --> 00:43:34.250 What are its African American, Hispanic ratios? 979 00:43:34.250 --> 00:43:37.186 So, what I did in the application. 980 00:43:37.186 --> 00:43:38.570 This is only for Houston. 981 00:43:38.570 --> 00:43:40.090 It doesn't include Austin. 982 00:43:40.090 --> 00:43:42.270 Unfortunately, as I said, there is no place 983 00:43:42.270 --> 00:43:47.260 to put another column here to identify Austin area. 984 00:43:47.260 --> 00:43:49.320 So, these are Houston numbers. 985 00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:50.360 Those are anticipated numbers. 986 00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:51.193 Not cap numbers. 987 00:43:51.193 --> 00:43:52.740 We cannot cap. 988 00:43:52.740 --> 00:43:55.600 Once the school start, as far as anybody show up, 989 00:43:55.600 --> 00:43:59.260 we may have 90% African American or 10% African American. 990 00:43:59.260 --> 00:44:03.130 Or 90% ELS students or maybe 10%. 991 00:44:03.130 --> 00:44:05.504 So, we don't know until we start 992 00:44:05.504 --> 00:44:07.660 enrollment or application process. 993 00:44:07.660 --> 00:44:10.163 Well, I will tell you that Piney Point in Houston ISD 994 00:44:10.163 --> 00:44:12.031 is 77% English learner enrollment. 995 00:44:12.031 --> 00:44:15.182 So, let's move on to special needs. 996 00:44:15.182 --> 00:44:16.949 May I make a correction? 997 00:44:16.949 --> 00:44:17.782 So, these are ISD numbers. 998 00:44:17.782 --> 00:44:20.950 These are not the campus. 999 00:44:20.950 --> 00:44:22.907 Right, so, my ISD numbers start at 42% 1000 00:44:22.907 --> 00:44:25.417 and climb as high as 80%. 1001 00:44:25.417 --> 00:44:26.790 But your application lists 25%. 1002 00:44:26.790 --> 00:44:28.490 So, quite a bit of variance. 1003 00:44:28.490 --> 00:44:30.720 So, let's go on to special needs. 1004 00:44:30.720 --> 00:44:32.406 Your application projects 1005 00:44:32.406 --> 00:44:35.023 student with special needs enrollment at 7%. 1006 00:44:36.680 --> 00:44:39.320 The Austin middle schools that you reference 1007 00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:41.380 in your application are both over 17%. 1008 00:44:41.380 --> 00:44:43.720 While the high school is over 13%. 1009 00:44:43.720 --> 00:44:45.190 And I want to note that, 1010 00:44:45.190 --> 00:44:46.955 while you were CEO of Harmony, 1011 00:44:46.955 --> 00:44:50.320 Harmony was cited by the Civil Rights Office 1012 00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:52.049 of the US Department of Education in 2014 1013 00:44:52.049 --> 00:44:55.180 for not serving the proportionate percentage 1014 00:44:55.180 --> 00:44:57.190 of English learners and children with special needs 1015 00:44:57.190 --> 00:45:00.000 compared to schools in close proximity. 1016 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.010 And so, what I'm wondering, then, is, 1017 00:45:03.010 --> 00:45:05.540 rather than saying we'll deal with all of that 1018 00:45:05.540 --> 00:45:07.560 once you hold your lottery 1019 00:45:07.560 --> 00:45:09.680 and we'll see which students enroll, 1020 00:45:09.680 --> 00:45:11.420 I'd like to see a more comprehensive plan 1021 00:45:11.420 --> 00:45:14.430 in your application of exactly how you intend to do this. 1022 00:45:14.430 --> 00:45:16.876 Rather than we'll wait and see. 1023 00:45:16.876 --> 00:45:19.650 You want to explain those disparities 1024 00:45:19.650 --> 00:45:21.470 specifically to Austin? 1025 00:45:21.470 --> 00:45:24.267 So, again, this application doesn't include Austin. 1026 00:45:24.267 --> 00:45:27.443 And, as I mentioned before, 1027 00:45:28.630 --> 00:45:33.130 the percentages, the ratios of ELL, ESL, 1028 00:45:33.130 --> 00:45:35.530 and special ed populations in Austin ISD. 1029 00:45:35.530 --> 00:45:37.120 I have seven schools, as I mentioned, 1030 00:45:37.120 --> 00:45:38.640 in north and south side. 1031 00:45:38.640 --> 00:45:42.930 So, we are ready to take any challenges that we have. 1032 00:45:42.930 --> 00:45:46.470 I mean, if we have student with heavy disability, 1033 00:45:46.470 --> 00:45:47.960 then that's what we need to do. 1034 00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:48.999 We have done it. 1035 00:45:48.999 --> 00:45:53.331 So, I assure you that we will have comprehensive plan. 1036 00:45:53.331 --> 00:45:56.480 And I'm happy to provide additional information, 1037 00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:57.313 if you need to. 1038 00:45:57.313 --> 00:45:59.540 But, based on the question in the application, 1039 00:45:59.540 --> 00:46:01.650 we have a limited 100 pages. 1040 00:46:01.650 --> 00:46:05.140 I have 140 pages long response. 1041 00:46:05.140 --> 00:46:06.860 I have to actually eliminate some of those. 1042 00:46:06.860 --> 00:46:08.680 I can write 500 pages. 1043 00:46:08.680 --> 00:46:11.560 But there's a capped number of pages in the application. 1044 00:46:11.560 --> 00:46:13.003 So, that's all that we can put there. 1045 00:46:15.700 --> 00:46:19.410 I want to move on now to diversity and representation. 1046 00:46:19.410 --> 00:46:22.604 There are no Latino or African American board members 1047 00:46:22.604 --> 00:46:25.620 on your board. 1048 00:46:25.620 --> 00:46:27.881 And you're proposing to move into a community 1049 00:46:27.881 --> 00:46:31.023 where 98% of the students are Latino and African American. 1050 00:46:31.970 --> 00:46:35.320 The existing board members, your existing board members, 1051 00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:37.930 voted to open a school in a city 1052 00:46:37.930 --> 00:46:40.391 without having any representation from that city. 1053 00:46:40.391 --> 00:46:41.500 And your application. 1054 00:46:41.500 --> 00:46:45.210 And I'm talking about the one that the public has seen. 1055 00:46:45.210 --> 00:46:48.259 Lists only two Austin residents of the 22 individuals 1056 00:46:48.259 --> 00:46:50.870 that you've spoken with. 1057 00:46:50.870 --> 00:46:53.770 And these individuals are in northeast. 1058 00:46:53.770 --> 00:46:56.430 They are not from the northeast Austin community. 1059 00:46:56.430 --> 00:47:00.660 And one of the two individuals is one of your funders. 1060 00:47:00.660 --> 00:47:02.350 Most of your letters of support 1061 00:47:02.350 --> 00:47:04.690 are exclusively from Houston. 1062 00:47:04.690 --> 00:47:08.060 And your community meetings. 1063 00:47:08.060 --> 00:47:10.500 As few as seven people attended one of them. 1064 00:47:10.500 --> 00:47:13.690 And, the second one, only 34 people attended. 1065 00:47:13.690 --> 00:47:14.840 And, in my opinion, 1066 00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:18.400 that is very limited community participation. 1067 00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:20.610 And, perhaps, it is an illustration 1068 00:47:20.610 --> 00:47:23.310 of very limited community interest. 1069 00:47:23.310 --> 00:47:26.120 In more than 20 years of your leadership at Harmony, 1070 00:47:26.120 --> 00:47:28.130 the 16 top leadership positions 1071 00:47:28.130 --> 00:47:30.250 have always been held by only men 1072 00:47:30.250 --> 00:47:32.990 and only of Turkish national origin. 1073 00:47:32.990 --> 00:47:36.800 The Royal board of directors has no members from Austin. 1074 00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:37.700 No Latino. 1075 00:47:37.700 --> 00:47:39.800 No African American members. 1076 00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:41.790 Meanwhile, the students, again, 1077 00:47:41.790 --> 00:47:44.610 are 98% Latino and African American. 1078 00:47:44.610 --> 00:47:46.700 So, what is your plan to ensure that 1079 00:47:46.700 --> 00:47:48.800 your board, your leadership, and your staff 1080 00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:52.490 are of representation of the community 1081 00:47:52.490 --> 00:47:54.930 where you are applying to serve? 1082 00:47:54.930 --> 00:47:56.830 Yes, I will refer to my board chair. 1083 00:47:58.900 --> 00:48:00.500 We've had discussions about 1084 00:48:00.500 --> 00:48:03.090 expanding the membership on the board. 1085 00:48:03.090 --> 00:48:07.620 And we're fully aware of trying to add 1086 00:48:08.970 --> 00:48:13.970 membership from the Austin area that we propose to serve. 1087 00:48:14.420 --> 00:48:15.970 And also we're taking a look at 1088 00:48:15.970 --> 00:48:19.616 some of the issues of adding, 1089 00:48:19.616 --> 00:48:24.616 perhaps, an African American and/or Latino members 1090 00:48:25.026 --> 00:48:25.980 to the board. 1091 00:48:25.980 --> 00:48:29.280 So, we've started that process. 1092 00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:31.143 And it will continue. 1093 00:48:32.160 --> 00:48:34.160 Okay, I didn't hear anything you said. 1094 00:48:41.489 --> 00:48:43.637 So, you agree with the statement, 1095 00:48:43.637 --> 00:48:47.410 but you're in the process of starting to look for others? 1096 00:48:47.410 --> 00:48:50.900 Yes, we're planning to expand the board. 1097 00:48:50.900 --> 00:48:55.560 Both with geographical representation in the Austin area 1098 00:48:55.560 --> 00:48:59.940 and including members of the board 1099 00:48:59.940 --> 00:49:02.189 that more accurately reflect 1100 00:49:02.189 --> 00:49:05.960 the populations we intend to serve. 1101 00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:07.490 So, is that something you will be 1102 00:49:07.490 --> 00:49:09.950 amending on your application? 1103 00:49:09.950 --> 00:49:12.819 To be reflective of the community? 1104 00:49:12.819 --> 00:49:16.343 So, ma'am, it's part of our board that will open. 1105 00:49:16.343 --> 00:49:17.870 That we included in our board application. 1106 00:49:17.870 --> 00:49:21.410 That we're gonna engage with a national board trainer 1107 00:49:21.410 --> 00:49:22.810 to train our boards. 1108 00:49:22.810 --> 00:49:24.782 And to include, basically. 1109 00:49:24.782 --> 00:49:28.310 I used to be a board certified trainer. 1110 00:49:28.310 --> 00:49:29.920 And what I look at when I. 1111 00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:31.453 Basically, we want to make sure that 1112 00:49:31.453 --> 00:49:34.580 there's diversity in gender. 1113 00:49:34.580 --> 00:49:36.750 Diversity in ethnicity. 1114 00:49:36.750 --> 00:49:38.620 Diversity in race and profession 1115 00:49:38.620 --> 00:49:40.270 So, once we. 1116 00:49:40.270 --> 00:49:42.450 Upon approval, we're gonna continue to expand, 1117 00:49:42.450 --> 00:49:44.770 as my board chair mentioned, 1118 00:49:44.770 --> 00:49:47.203 include people from Austin area. 1119 00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:50.221 As well as wherever we serve. 1120 00:49:50.221 --> 00:49:53.330 But you didn't accomplish that in the last 20 years. 1121 00:49:53.330 --> 00:49:55.353 You're gonna start that now? 1122 00:49:56.561 --> 00:49:58.280 Thank you for asking. 1123 00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:02.940 In my capacity interview, 1124 00:50:02.940 --> 00:50:05.710 I specifically mention, it's in the record, 1125 00:50:05.710 --> 00:50:07.760 that one of the reason that I stepped down. 1126 00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:10.400 I have done everything in Harmony Public Schools 1127 00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:11.840 to improve every single bit. 1128 00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:15.460 Starting with 200 kids to 34000. 1129 00:50:15.460 --> 00:50:16.660 We have really developed. 1130 00:50:16.660 --> 00:50:18.830 Except, unfortunately, my board. 1131 00:50:18.830 --> 00:50:21.530 And I could not introduce term limits. 1132 00:50:21.530 --> 00:50:24.177 So, that's one of the reason I stepped down from that. 1133 00:50:24.177 --> 00:50:26.000 Thank you for mentioning that. 1134 00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:27.816 Thank you for that clarification. 1135 00:50:27.816 --> 00:50:29.750 And I will. 1136 00:50:29.750 --> 00:50:33.424 If you're successful today, I'll help you do that. 1137 00:50:33.424 --> 00:50:36.510 So, let's move on to conflict of interest. 1138 00:50:36.510 --> 00:50:39.140 According to the Unity School Service website, 1139 00:50:39.140 --> 00:50:41.160 you created a charter management organization 1140 00:50:41.160 --> 00:50:42.750 called Unity School Services that 1141 00:50:42.750 --> 00:50:44.630 will operate two charters in Alabama 1142 00:50:44.630 --> 00:50:46.880 while providing services to facilities 1143 00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:48.805 in Arkansas, Florida, Louisiana, 1144 00:50:48.805 --> 00:50:50.810 Georgia, Maryland, Missouri, New York, 1145 00:50:50.810 --> 00:50:52.610 New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, 1146 00:50:52.610 --> 00:50:55.120 South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, 1147 00:50:55.120 --> 00:50:58.310 Washington, DC, Mexico, Qatar, and Hong Kong. 1148 00:50:58.310 --> 00:50:59.143 You also sit on 1149 00:50:59.143 --> 00:51:00.500 the Board of International Leadership 1150 00:51:00.500 --> 00:51:02.260 of Texas Charter Schools. 1151 00:51:02.260 --> 00:51:04.520 Will you please tell us how many charters 1152 00:51:04.520 --> 00:51:06.820 Unity is currently managing 1153 00:51:06.820 --> 00:51:10.054 or providing services to in each of these locations? 1154 00:51:10.054 --> 00:51:12.734 Because I'm wondering which conflicts of interest you have 1155 00:51:12.734 --> 00:51:16.230 with these identified and these concurrent roles 1156 00:51:16.230 --> 00:51:19.270 and how you have time to be the CEO 1157 00:51:19.270 --> 00:51:21.942 of between four and eight charters 1158 00:51:21.942 --> 00:51:23.960 that are on the current application. 1159 00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:25.110 Thank you, ma'am. 1160 00:51:25.973 --> 00:51:27.460 Let me clarify. 1161 00:51:27.460 --> 00:51:31.360 So, Unity School Services is the consulting LLC formed, 1162 00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:33.310 as I mentioned in the introduction, 1163 00:51:33.310 --> 00:51:36.860 established in 2017 after I stepped down from Harmony 1164 00:51:36.860 --> 00:51:38.880 to basically pay the bills. 1165 00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:42.090 And, in the website, it talks about 1166 00:51:42.090 --> 00:51:45.720 those cities and states which I have, in the past, 1167 00:51:45.720 --> 00:51:48.127 provided guidance, help. 1168 00:51:48.127 --> 00:51:50.310 There is no school in any one of those places 1169 00:51:50.310 --> 00:51:51.600 that we actually manage. 1170 00:51:51.600 --> 00:51:53.490 Except Alabama. 1171 00:51:53.490 --> 00:51:57.470 And I have mentioned and talked to this agency that 1172 00:51:57.470 --> 00:51:59.100 I am helping. 1173 00:51:59.100 --> 00:52:01.270 It's helped by three applications. 1174 00:52:01.270 --> 00:52:02.980 Both of them are approved. 1175 00:52:02.980 --> 00:52:06.090 One of them because of the pushback. 1176 00:52:06.090 --> 00:52:09.070 Again, the school in Alabama is 1177 00:52:09.070 --> 00:52:10.610 not included with Royal Public Schools. 1178 00:52:10.610 --> 00:52:11.530 It's a separate entity. 1179 00:52:11.530 --> 00:52:13.230 There's a local board formed 1180 00:52:13.230 --> 00:52:16.400 by a local businessman and parents. 1181 00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:19.153 Unfortunately, you have heard yesterday. 1182 00:52:19.153 --> 00:52:21.640 Two person showed up from Alabama. 1183 00:52:21.640 --> 00:52:24.100 They were adamantly against. 1184 00:52:24.100 --> 00:52:26.210 Because they worked for the school districts. 1185 00:52:26.210 --> 00:52:27.550 I mean, the same debate. 1186 00:52:27.550 --> 00:52:31.260 This is the initial charter school in Alabama. 1187 00:52:31.260 --> 00:52:32.093 They are learning. 1188 00:52:32.093 --> 00:52:33.434 They are going through the process. 1189 00:52:33.434 --> 00:52:36.900 And there's a pushback from the local community. 1190 00:52:36.900 --> 00:52:38.380 It has nothing to do with me, really. 1191 00:52:38.380 --> 00:52:39.600 It's not my school. 1192 00:52:39.600 --> 00:52:41.938 I just provide guidance, help. 1193 00:52:41.938 --> 00:52:45.356 But, two weeks ago, last week, 1194 00:52:45.356 --> 00:52:49.591 the school receive a one year extension 1195 00:52:49.591 --> 00:52:50.890 because they couldn't get 1196 00:52:50.890 --> 00:52:53.790 the facility permit in place on time. 1197 00:52:53.790 --> 00:52:58.440 And so, other location that I mention, 1198 00:52:58.440 --> 00:52:59.940 I provide counseling. 1199 00:52:59.940 --> 00:53:01.890 And I was aboard member at 1200 00:53:01.890 --> 00:53:03.360 the International Leadership of Texas, 1201 00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:05.870 which is one of the fastest growing charter school 1202 00:53:05.870 --> 00:53:06.960 in Dallas area. 1203 00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:10.054 And I'm a volunteer there. 1204 00:53:10.054 --> 00:53:11.163 And so, you don't believe that 1205 00:53:11.163 --> 00:53:13.210 there's any conflict of interest 1206 00:53:13.210 --> 00:53:15.429 with all of these concurrent roles? 1207 00:53:15.429 --> 00:53:19.920 You know, again, Royal Public School is, 1208 00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:22.780 basically, my, along with my board. 1209 00:53:22.780 --> 00:53:23.950 Is our product. 1210 00:53:23.950 --> 00:53:27.130 My oath to Texas. 1211 00:53:27.130 --> 00:53:27.963 This is my place. 1212 00:53:27.963 --> 00:53:28.930 This is my organization. 1213 00:53:28.930 --> 00:53:31.170 This is our new initiative. 1214 00:53:31.170 --> 00:53:34.210 So, upon approval, basically my focus is going to be 1215 00:53:34.210 --> 00:53:36.218 Royal Public Schools. 1216 00:53:36.218 --> 00:53:37.953 So, is that a no? 1217 00:53:37.953 --> 00:53:38.786 Yes, ma'am. 1218 00:53:38.786 --> 00:53:39.860 Okay, so, you believe that 1219 00:53:39.860 --> 00:53:42.000 you'll have plenty of time to be the full time CEO 1220 00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:44.711 of between four and eight charters on the Royal application 1221 00:53:44.711 --> 00:53:48.540 plus everything that you just listed, correct? 1222 00:53:48.540 --> 00:53:49.930 Ma'am, I am not. 1223 00:53:49.930 --> 00:53:52.206 As I said, I don't have any schools in any other place. 1224 00:53:52.206 --> 00:53:54.158 And Royal is the only one. 1225 00:53:54.158 --> 00:53:59.023 I mentioned that I run 54 schools as of 2017. 1226 00:54:02.620 --> 00:54:05.940 And I had 4000 employees at Harmony Public Schools. 1227 00:54:05.940 --> 00:54:09.400 So, for me to run four or eight schools, 1228 00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:12.250 it's not a difficult task. 1229 00:54:12.250 --> 00:54:13.083 I'm sorry. 1230 00:54:13.083 --> 00:54:14.888 It's not a what? It's not a difficult task. 1231 00:54:14.888 --> 00:54:17.780 Okay, so, I would like to move now 1232 00:54:17.780 --> 00:54:20.883 to students with disciplinary histories or records. 1233 00:54:25.090 --> 00:54:26.470 Again, correct me if I'm wrong 1234 00:54:26.470 --> 00:54:28.870 or if this has also been amended. 1235 00:54:28.870 --> 00:54:31.227 Your Royal student application states 1236 00:54:31.227 --> 00:54:33.500 the school shall exclude from enrollment 1237 00:54:33.500 --> 00:54:36.430 those students who have a documented history 1238 00:54:36.430 --> 00:54:38.870 of a criminal offense, a juvenile court adjudication, 1239 00:54:38.870 --> 00:54:40.130 or other discipline problems 1240 00:54:40.130 --> 00:54:43.690 under subchapter A, chapter 37 1241 00:54:43.690 --> 00:54:46.230 of the Education Code page 232. 1242 00:54:46.230 --> 00:54:48.690 However, on your student application, 1243 00:54:48.690 --> 00:54:51.990 it does say that disciplinary history is required. 1244 00:54:51.990 --> 00:54:53.990 And I believe, just a few minutes ago, 1245 00:54:53.990 --> 00:54:57.650 you said that is something you're not doing. 1246 00:54:57.650 --> 00:54:58.483 No, ma'am, we are not doing. 1247 00:54:58.483 --> 00:55:01.370 I don't know which application you're referring. 1248 00:55:01.370 --> 00:55:02.423 But we don't. 1249 00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:04.800 I said we were gonna exclude 1250 00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:09.240 if the children had disciplinary, criminal history. 1251 00:55:09.240 --> 00:55:11.760 It's part of our charter application requirement. 1252 00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:13.170 I said yes. 1253 00:55:13.170 --> 00:55:16.730 But we have never ask anybody, in my history of 19 years, 1254 00:55:16.730 --> 00:55:18.380 if they had any records. 1255 00:55:18.380 --> 00:55:20.130 Let's differentiate. 1256 00:55:20.130 --> 00:55:23.290 Disciplinary issue's different from criminal history. 1257 00:55:23.290 --> 00:55:26.160 You don't want to have a child in your school, 1258 00:55:26.160 --> 00:55:28.980 in a small school, with a history 1259 00:55:28.980 --> 00:55:30.880 of gun violence, sexual abuse. 1260 00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:33.160 You don't want those kids in your school. 1261 00:55:33.160 --> 00:55:34.100 Do you? 1262 00:55:34.100 --> 00:55:34.933 I mean, that's the. 1263 00:55:34.933 --> 00:55:37.240 I will tell you, sir, for more than a decade, 1264 00:55:37.240 --> 00:55:39.730 I taught students in juvenile probation. 1265 00:55:39.730 --> 00:55:43.590 And so, no, I would absolutely teach students 1266 00:55:43.590 --> 00:55:45.780 just like the ones that you're describing 1267 00:55:45.780 --> 00:55:46.713 that you don't want. 1268 00:55:46.713 --> 00:55:49.020 So, I just want to be clear. 1269 00:55:49.020 --> 00:55:51.290 You checked yes. 1270 00:55:51.290 --> 00:55:53.656 That you shall exclude students 1271 00:55:53.656 --> 00:55:58.000 with a documented history of criminal offenses. 1272 00:55:58.000 --> 00:55:59.010 You will exclude them? 1273 00:55:59.010 --> 00:56:00.080 But not discipline issues. 1274 00:56:00.080 --> 00:56:02.140 I differentiated the answer. 1275 00:56:02.140 --> 00:56:03.140 Okay, fair enough. 1276 00:56:06.570 --> 00:56:07.960 So, now I would like to move on 1277 00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:10.990 to the social and emotional learning innovation. 1278 00:56:10.990 --> 00:56:14.490 Your application depicts a need for SEL 1279 00:56:14.490 --> 00:56:17.260 in the aforementioned schools' communities. 1280 00:56:17.260 --> 00:56:19.790 And I'm gonna stick with the anywhere between four and eight 1281 00:56:19.790 --> 00:56:24.790 and anywhere between the three listed school ISDs. 1282 00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:27.070 Because I don't know that any of us in here 1283 00:56:27.070 --> 00:56:28.190 are clear on where you're going 1284 00:56:28.190 --> 00:56:30.060 or where you're not going. 1285 00:56:30.060 --> 00:56:32.570 Austin ISD offers SEL for 1286 00:56:32.570 --> 00:56:35.004 all of their schools in their district. 1287 00:56:35.004 --> 00:56:36.560 And that program began eight years ago. 1288 00:56:36.560 --> 00:56:37.900 Your application says that 1289 00:56:37.900 --> 00:56:40.080 you intend to blend SEL with STEM. 1290 00:56:40.080 --> 00:56:43.210 But I do not see where you're listing 1291 00:56:43.210 --> 00:56:45.330 how this will be accomplished. 1292 00:56:45.330 --> 00:56:47.060 And so, what I'm wondering is how is 1293 00:56:47.060 --> 00:56:49.780 social and emotional learning innovative in Austin 1294 00:56:49.780 --> 00:56:52.480 if Austin ISD has this at all of its campuses 1295 00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:55.383 and has had it at all of its campuses for eight years? 1296 00:56:57.560 --> 00:57:01.760 So, again, I'm very happy that 1297 00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:05.780 Austin ISD and many ISDs are offering SEL. 1298 00:57:05.780 --> 00:57:06.780 I have no objection. 1299 00:57:06.780 --> 00:57:08.870 I think this is great. 1300 00:57:08.870 --> 00:57:12.290 But what they are offering is not what I am offering. 1301 00:57:12.290 --> 00:57:15.140 They are not combining STEM and SEL together. 1302 00:57:15.140 --> 00:57:19.100 But, again, as a public charter school, 1303 00:57:19.100 --> 00:57:21.700 we have a lot to learn from school system 1304 00:57:21.700 --> 00:57:24.840 in implementing and doing this successfully. 1305 00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:28.389 But there is no public schools that 1306 00:57:28.389 --> 00:57:31.800 has offered the STEM-SEL combination. 1307 00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:33.200 It's brand new. 1308 00:57:33.200 --> 00:57:34.850 It's a new idea. 1309 00:57:34.850 --> 00:57:39.850 And, again, what I say, Miss Perez, is. 1310 00:57:40.540 --> 00:57:42.960 I mean, just not SEL. 1311 00:57:42.960 --> 00:57:45.440 Just look at any other subject area. 1312 00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:46.273 We teach math. 1313 00:57:46.273 --> 00:57:48.950 I don't want to name ISDs, 1314 00:57:48.950 --> 00:57:50.410 because I get a lot of feed. 1315 00:57:50.410 --> 00:57:53.570 But let's say you're in a large school district. 1316 00:57:53.570 --> 00:57:56.400 Here, Houston, or any other place. 1317 00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:59.100 Every one of us, whether charter school, public school, 1318 00:57:59.100 --> 00:58:02.140 we use same adopted textbook list. 1319 00:58:02.140 --> 00:58:03.460 To use the same textbook. 1320 00:58:03.460 --> 00:58:05.340 Same TEKS curriculum. 1321 00:58:05.340 --> 00:58:07.410 But some of our school within same district. 1322 00:58:07.410 --> 00:58:09.610 If you look at the east side and west side. 1323 00:58:09.610 --> 00:58:11.730 There's total differences. 1324 00:58:11.730 --> 00:58:12.967 Why? 1325 00:58:12.967 --> 00:58:13.800 Within the same school district, 1326 00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:14.633 we have three failing. 1327 00:58:15.603 --> 00:58:17.392 I don't want to say failing. Struggling schools. 1328 00:58:17.392 --> 00:58:18.482 As well as successful school 1329 00:58:18.482 --> 00:58:19.474 within the same school district. 1330 00:58:19.474 --> 00:58:21.210 They do the same thing. 1331 00:58:21.210 --> 00:58:22.210 It goes the same. 1332 00:58:22.210 --> 00:58:23.890 It's how you deliver it. 1333 00:58:23.890 --> 00:58:26.570 How innovative you are to really engage students 1334 00:58:26.570 --> 00:58:28.950 in the neighborhood to be successful. 1335 00:58:28.950 --> 00:58:33.950 So, I have no objection for any ISD to offer SEL. 1336 00:58:34.370 --> 00:58:35.880 But it doesn't hurt to have 1337 00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:39.124 additional STEM-SEL combination. 1338 00:58:39.124 --> 00:58:40.790 You're right. It doesn't hurt to have that. 1339 00:58:40.790 --> 00:58:44.080 So, why do you not include in your application 1340 00:58:44.080 --> 00:58:46.320 exactly how you will accomplish that? 1341 00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:47.940 Because there's not enough space. 1342 00:58:47.940 --> 00:58:48.940 Again with the space. 1343 00:58:48.940 --> 00:58:50.740 Yes, I have a. 1344 00:58:50.740 --> 00:58:53.340 We went through this in the initial interview. 1345 00:58:53.340 --> 00:58:54.540 The first interview. 1346 00:58:54.540 --> 00:58:56.960 We have a Royal Public School 1347 00:58:56.960 --> 00:58:58.610 teaching and learning framework. 1348 00:58:58.610 --> 00:59:00.620 I can sit down and explain two hours. 1349 00:59:00.620 --> 00:59:02.780 I have chief academic officer here with me. 1350 00:59:02.780 --> 00:59:05.860 We can train teachers how to implement this 1351 00:59:05.860 --> 00:59:07.073 in every subject area. 1352 00:59:08.260 --> 00:59:11.034 So, we did a session for that. 1353 00:59:11.034 --> 00:59:13.300 Okay, so, since you brought up 1354 00:59:13.300 --> 00:59:15.683 teachers teaching a variety of subjects, 1355 00:59:17.200 --> 00:59:18.390 And I'm gonna assume this. 1356 00:59:18.390 --> 00:59:20.513 But please correct me if I'm wrong again. 1357 00:59:21.520 --> 00:59:24.330 You do not have any ESBET credentials yourself? 1358 00:59:24.330 --> 00:59:25.243 No, ma'am. 1359 00:59:27.160 --> 00:59:30.590 Basically, when I started in 2000, my first charter, 1360 00:59:30.590 --> 00:59:32.640 I was teaching at university. 1361 00:59:32.640 --> 00:59:35.861 And I started with public schools as a foundation. 1362 00:59:35.861 --> 00:59:38.280 And five of us. 1363 00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:39.630 We had five board members. 1364 00:59:39.630 --> 00:59:43.450 And I pulled a short stick and became the principal. 1365 00:59:43.450 --> 00:59:44.760 I have no principal experience. 1366 00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:46.883 No principal certification in my life. 1367 00:59:46.883 --> 00:59:50.640 I've never been as a certified teacher 1368 00:59:50.640 --> 00:59:52.660 in schools in the United States. 1369 00:59:52.660 --> 00:59:57.520 But, with hard work, dedication, we pulled off. 1370 00:59:57.520 --> 01:00:00.580 From 200 students, we reached 35000. 1371 01:00:00.580 --> 01:00:03.540 I mean, I believe in credential and experience. 1372 01:00:03.540 --> 01:00:05.560 But also we give a lot of opportunities 1373 01:00:05.560 --> 01:00:07.933 to non-certified teachers who are qualified. 1374 01:00:10.218 --> 01:00:12.470 Basically highly qualified who can come and teach. 1375 01:00:12.470 --> 01:00:15.293 That's kind of beauty of charter school system. 1376 01:00:15.293 --> 01:00:19.410 That we can bring a lot of new talents into education. 1377 01:00:19.410 --> 01:00:21.040 I was one of them. 1378 01:00:21.040 --> 01:00:24.180 So, just so I'm clear, you said that 1379 01:00:24.180 --> 01:00:26.950 it's the charter responsibility 1380 01:00:26.950 --> 01:00:31.950 to quantify who's appropriate, qualified to teach, 1381 01:00:32.240 --> 01:00:34.467 but you do believe in ESBET credentials? 1382 01:00:34.467 --> 01:00:36.560 I do believe in ESBET credentials. 1383 01:00:36.560 --> 01:00:38.260 Certification is important. 1384 01:00:38.260 --> 01:00:41.197 But we also have mixed people that come into education 1385 01:00:41.197 --> 01:00:43.020 with highly qualified. 1386 01:00:43.020 --> 01:00:44.040 Maybe they are retired engineers. 1387 01:00:44.040 --> 01:00:45.970 They are retired teachers. 1388 01:00:45.970 --> 01:00:49.040 Or retired engineers or professions 1389 01:00:49.040 --> 01:00:52.926 who have enough number of hours in the subject they teach. 1390 01:00:52.926 --> 01:00:56.420 They are qualified to teach in charter schools. 1391 01:00:56.420 --> 01:00:58.260 And then, eventually, we push them to 1392 01:00:58.260 --> 01:00:59.790 become certified teachers. 1393 01:00:59.790 --> 01:01:03.040 At Harmony, we almost have 78% certified teachers. 1394 01:01:03.040 --> 01:01:05.897 They come in non-certified but highly qualified. 1395 01:01:05.897 --> 01:01:08.477 And we put them in certification program. 1396 01:01:08.477 --> 01:01:10.027 And they receive certification. 1397 01:01:11.100 --> 01:01:11.933 ASBET certification? 1398 01:01:11.933 --> 01:01:12.766 Yes, ma'am. 1399 01:01:12.766 --> 01:01:13.730 They get higher pay, yes. 1400 01:01:13.730 --> 01:01:16.340 Okay, and so, there's 78% at Harmony. 1401 01:01:16.340 --> 01:01:19.383 What is the projected percentage at Royal? 1402 01:01:19.383 --> 01:01:21.938 The same? 1403 01:01:21.938 --> 01:01:23.190 It could be same or higher. 1404 01:01:23.190 --> 01:01:24.310 It could be the same or higher? 1405 01:01:24.310 --> 01:01:25.931 So, is that in your application? 1406 01:01:25.931 --> 01:01:26.878 No, ma'am. 1407 01:01:26.878 --> 01:01:27.711 It's not in the application. 1408 01:01:27.711 --> 01:01:28.911 Would you amend it? 1409 01:01:28.911 --> 01:01:29.744 I don't know. 1410 01:01:29.744 --> 01:01:30.577 If it's required. 1411 01:01:30.577 --> 01:01:33.340 But, I mean, our goal is to get everybody certified. 1412 01:01:33.340 --> 01:01:34.990 But I cannot promise right now 1413 01:01:34.990 --> 01:01:36.790 that everybody's gonna be certified. 1414 01:01:39.370 --> 01:01:41.530 So, then, let's move on to counselors. 1415 01:01:41.530 --> 01:01:43.775 Miss Perez, could I ask one question? 1416 01:01:43.775 --> 01:01:46.660 In the interest of allowing those 1417 01:01:46.660 --> 01:01:48.500 who have not had an opportunity yet 1418 01:01:48.500 --> 01:01:51.370 to even ask any questions, 1419 01:01:51.370 --> 01:01:54.892 are you at a point where you could maybe 1420 01:01:54.892 --> 01:01:58.790 take a short break and let another person ask a question 1421 01:01:58.790 --> 01:01:59.964 who's not asked any 1422 01:01:59.964 --> 01:02:02.090 and then we can come back to you for a second time? 1423 01:02:02.090 --> 01:02:02.923 Very well. 1424 01:02:02.923 --> 01:02:03.756 Okay, Miss Cargill. 1425 01:02:03.756 --> 01:02:05.070 Would it be proper parliamentary inquiry 1426 01:02:05.070 --> 01:02:06.533 to ask what page she's on? 1427 01:02:06.533 --> 01:02:08.123 (laughter) 1428 01:02:08.123 --> 01:02:10.770 It might be fair to ask what page we're on. 1429 01:02:10.770 --> 01:02:12.920 I was about to begin page five. 1430 01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:15.063 Oh, okay, in that case, Miss Cargill. 1431 01:02:16.750 --> 01:02:20.640 Okay, she covered a couple of my questions. 1432 01:02:20.640 --> 01:02:23.760 But, Soner, during. 1433 01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:25.160 First of all, thank you for. 1434 01:02:26.880 --> 01:02:28.020 You're doing great. 1435 01:02:28.020 --> 01:02:29.446 So, just hang in there. 1436 01:02:29.446 --> 01:02:30.570 Drink the water. 1437 01:02:30.570 --> 01:02:31.799 Stay hydrated. 1438 01:02:31.799 --> 01:02:34.520 (laughter) 1439 01:02:34.520 --> 01:02:35.980 We need a spotlight. 1440 01:02:35.980 --> 01:02:37.190 A police interrogation. 1441 01:02:37.190 --> 01:02:39.170 But I do want to thank you. 1442 01:02:39.170 --> 01:02:41.280 I've visited several of your schools, as well. 1443 01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:42.113 I tell you. 1444 01:02:42.113 --> 01:02:43.590 The kids are happy. 1445 01:02:43.590 --> 01:02:44.590 They're well mannered. 1446 01:02:44.590 --> 01:02:46.670 They're happy to see you. 1447 01:02:46.670 --> 01:02:49.360 There's not a child that goes by, practically, 1448 01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:51.160 that doesn't reach out to shake your hand. 1449 01:02:51.160 --> 01:02:53.870 So, you've got a lot of great things going on. 1450 01:02:53.870 --> 01:02:54.900 During the interviews, though, 1451 01:02:54.900 --> 01:02:57.293 you were asked specifically about 1452 01:02:57.293 --> 01:03:00.263 the teachers that you hire. 1453 01:03:03.210 --> 01:03:04.790 I know that there was a lot of publicity 1454 01:03:04.790 --> 01:03:05.830 surrounding the fact that 1455 01:03:05.830 --> 01:03:07.290 a lot of your teachers were from Turkey. 1456 01:03:07.290 --> 01:03:08.450 And you addressed that. 1457 01:03:08.450 --> 01:03:11.160 So, I wanted you to address that now. 1458 01:03:11.160 --> 01:03:12.900 Bring us up to date on that. 1459 01:03:12.900 --> 01:03:14.810 Because I think you took action. 1460 01:03:14.810 --> 01:03:17.900 You listened to the public and whoever else. 1461 01:03:17.900 --> 01:03:19.257 And so. 1462 01:03:19.257 --> 01:03:20.580 So, I mean, yes. 1463 01:03:20.580 --> 01:03:22.583 I'm glad that you asked that question. 1464 01:03:23.540 --> 01:03:28.190 I mean, last 19 years of my life was in the public eye. 1465 01:03:28.190 --> 01:03:29.400 Some of you know. 1466 01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:32.368 And Mister Lawrence Allen mentioned that 1467 01:03:32.368 --> 01:03:37.368 we had a lot of nonsense accusation to our organization 1468 01:03:38.017 --> 01:03:39.470 and to myself personally. 1469 01:03:39.470 --> 01:03:41.900 You have heard some of them yesterday. 1470 01:03:41.900 --> 01:03:42.910 And I'll come to that. 1471 01:03:42.910 --> 01:03:45.700 But, so, when I started my first charter school. 1472 01:03:45.700 --> 01:03:47.520 I mentioned I was a graduate student 1473 01:03:47.520 --> 01:03:49.698 doing my PhD at Texas A&M. 1474 01:03:49.698 --> 01:03:50.531 And, at the same time, 1475 01:03:50.531 --> 01:03:52.450 I was the head of the Turkish Association. 1476 01:03:52.450 --> 01:03:54.657 Yes, and I tell public the many times, 1477 01:03:54.657 --> 01:03:55.990 "Yes, I am from Turkey. 1478 01:03:55.990 --> 01:03:59.870 I came from Turkey in 1990 to help my brother, 1479 01:03:59.870 --> 01:04:02.100 who was a cancer patient at Anderson. 1480 01:04:02.100 --> 01:04:04.070 And, eventually, I ended up at Texas A&M, 1481 01:04:04.070 --> 01:04:06.677 pursued my PhD, and stayed here." 1482 01:04:07.600 --> 01:04:08.560 Became a citizen. 1483 01:04:08.560 --> 01:04:12.530 One of my proudest moment when I became a citizen. 1484 01:04:12.530 --> 01:04:15.240 Along with many other of my colleagues at Harmony. 1485 01:04:15.240 --> 01:04:17.630 But, because, when I was at Texas A&M, 1486 01:04:17.630 --> 01:04:19.910 I was the head of the Turkish Association. 1487 01:04:19.910 --> 01:04:22.200 So, I knew a lot of graduate students. 1488 01:04:22.200 --> 01:04:23.756 It was easy for me. 1489 01:04:23.756 --> 01:04:25.470 Because I am starting a STEM program. 1490 01:04:25.470 --> 01:04:26.880 So, I tapped in that resource. 1491 01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:28.540 I told some of my colleagues 1492 01:04:28.540 --> 01:04:30.460 who were working on master's and PhD. 1493 01:04:30.460 --> 01:04:32.280 I said, "You want a job? 1494 01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:33.884 You want to teach in math and science? 1495 01:04:33.884 --> 01:04:38.884 We'll hire you and provide H1 visa for three years." 1496 01:04:39.093 --> 01:04:39.926 It is public. 1497 01:04:39.926 --> 01:04:41.740 I'm not hiding that fact. 1498 01:04:41.740 --> 01:04:43.130 And so, initial years, 1499 01:04:43.130 --> 01:04:45.100 I relied on a lot of graduate students 1500 01:04:45.100 --> 01:04:48.030 who were studying either UT, A&M, and Rice University. 1501 01:04:48.030 --> 01:04:49.940 If you look at their resumes, you will see them. 1502 01:04:49.940 --> 01:04:52.840 They are from Turkey, but they receive degrees 1503 01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:55.270 in one of the prestigious schools in Texas. 1504 01:04:55.270 --> 01:04:59.700 So, eventually, I got a lot of pushback from people. 1505 01:04:59.700 --> 01:05:01.497 At one time, I was interviewed by New York Times. 1506 01:05:01.497 --> 01:05:04.720 Actually, I made headline at New York Times in 2011 1507 01:05:04.720 --> 01:05:06.700 because of these issues. 1508 01:05:06.700 --> 01:05:08.897 And I never forget, actually. 1509 01:05:08.897 --> 01:05:13.897 When reporter came to Harmony in 2011 at the time, 1510 01:05:13.917 --> 01:05:16.550 Rod Paige, who was the former secretary of education, 1511 01:05:16.550 --> 01:05:18.540 was visiting our school. 1512 01:05:18.540 --> 01:05:21.337 And so, New York Times reported for me. 1513 01:05:21.337 --> 01:05:23.610 "There is a lot of people are fired by Houston ISD. 1514 01:05:23.610 --> 01:05:24.720 Why don't you hire them? 1515 01:05:24.720 --> 01:05:27.773 Why do you hire Turkish graduate students here?" 1516 01:05:27.773 --> 01:05:30.960 And I told her, "So, you're telling me that 1517 01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:34.085 I have to hire people who were fired from a school district? 1518 01:05:34.085 --> 01:05:36.940 And those are maybe the worst." 1519 01:05:36.940 --> 01:05:37.840 I don't want to say. 1520 01:05:37.840 --> 01:05:39.240 I mean, why they fire them? 1521 01:05:39.240 --> 01:05:41.150 And why I should hire them? 1522 01:05:41.150 --> 01:05:43.080 If you run a business, you will understand that 1523 01:05:43.080 --> 01:05:44.180 that's not what you do. 1524 01:05:44.180 --> 01:05:47.050 But, so, that actually really told me a lot. 1525 01:05:47.050 --> 01:05:48.630 So, in 2011, we start 1526 01:05:48.630 --> 01:05:51.127 our Grow Your Own Teacher Program at Harmony. 1527 01:05:51.127 --> 01:05:54.630 And there is that we are asking our students, 1528 01:05:54.630 --> 01:05:56.230 if they want to be teachers, 1529 01:05:56.230 --> 01:05:57.890 especially in math and science. 1530 01:05:57.890 --> 01:06:00.350 We told them that we were gonna hire you as a teacher. 1531 01:06:00.350 --> 01:06:04.260 Right now, of the $20000 on scholarship, four years, 1532 01:06:04.260 --> 01:06:06.200 for those students who are Harmony students. 1533 01:06:06.200 --> 01:06:07.160 Finish Harmony. 1534 01:06:07.160 --> 01:06:08.560 If they want to study math and science, 1535 01:06:08.560 --> 01:06:10.050 we pay their tuition. 1536 01:06:10.050 --> 01:06:11.360 But the catch is they have to come back 1537 01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:12.970 and teach for us for two years. 1538 01:06:12.970 --> 01:06:14.827 That really helped us to improve 1539 01:06:14.827 --> 01:06:17.220 our diversity in our schools. 1540 01:06:17.220 --> 01:06:21.440 Also, at the time of this complaining, 2011, 1541 01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:24.750 we had about 18% H1 visa holders. 1542 01:06:24.750 --> 01:06:28.950 Right now, the number is less than, I would say, 2%. 1543 01:06:28.950 --> 01:06:30.000 Or 2.2%. 1544 01:06:30.930 --> 01:06:33.351 So, we are really taking an important step. 1545 01:06:33.351 --> 01:06:34.280 I say we. 1546 01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:37.880 I feel, still, Harmony is part of me. 1547 01:06:37.880 --> 01:06:40.895 So, lesson learned from those experiences. 1548 01:06:40.895 --> 01:06:42.410 And listen people. 1549 01:06:42.410 --> 01:06:46.800 And, right now, I would say we have maybe 100 students 1550 01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:50.070 who went to Harmony system and became teachers. 1551 01:06:50.070 --> 01:06:52.880 Also, there are 230 students in pipeline 1552 01:06:52.880 --> 01:06:56.600 to become Harmony teachers within next few years. 1553 01:06:56.600 --> 01:07:01.600 So, that's the thing that I've been dealing with. 1554 01:07:04.430 --> 01:07:05.263 Very good job. 1555 01:07:05.263 --> 01:07:07.610 Miss Hardy, you're up for the second time. 1556 01:07:07.610 --> 01:07:11.083 And then Doctor Ellis and Miss Perez chapter two. 1557 01:07:14.033 --> 01:07:15.250 I actually have two questions. 1558 01:07:15.250 --> 01:07:16.350 But they're real quick. 1559 01:07:16.350 --> 01:07:17.183 One question. 1560 01:07:17.183 --> 01:07:18.016 One comment. 1561 01:07:18.016 --> 01:07:20.300 One question is have you considered 1562 01:07:20.300 --> 01:07:22.333 moving your school to La Marque? 1563 01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:24.930 La Marque? 1564 01:07:24.930 --> 01:07:27.460 Yeah, they had to close the whole school district 1565 01:07:27.460 --> 01:07:29.220 and take it over and all that stuff. 1566 01:07:29.220 --> 01:07:31.330 Seems like they're desperately in need. 1567 01:07:31.330 --> 01:07:33.618 And you seem like you have mobility. 1568 01:07:33.618 --> 01:07:37.070 I just think that would be a great consideration. 1569 01:07:37.070 --> 01:07:38.853 Miss Hardy, I think people who know me here. 1570 01:07:38.853 --> 01:07:40.153 They they know me. 1571 01:07:42.490 --> 01:07:47.490 In 2004 or '05, when I started replicating schools, 1572 01:07:48.650 --> 01:07:50.260 multiple schools, I had to come 1573 01:07:50.260 --> 01:07:51.680 before this board multiple times. 1574 01:07:51.680 --> 01:07:53.440 Some of you remember. 1575 01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:58.440 And, whether it's a Republican or Democrat, I was asked. 1576 01:07:58.660 --> 01:08:00.460 I remember Mister Nunez from El Paso. 1577 01:08:00.460 --> 01:08:02.660 He said, "Why don't you open a school in El Paso?" 1578 01:08:02.660 --> 01:08:04.922 I said, "I don't know anybody in El Paso." 1579 01:08:04.922 --> 01:08:07.200 He said, "You know me now. 1580 01:08:07.200 --> 01:08:08.033 Come to El Paso. 1581 01:08:08.033 --> 01:08:09.310 So, you'll put a school in El Paso?" 1582 01:08:09.310 --> 01:08:11.677 Same thing in Odessa. 1583 01:08:11.677 --> 01:08:13.618 And other places. 1584 01:08:13.618 --> 01:08:18.618 I mean, right now, our proposed plan is to 1585 01:08:19.110 --> 01:08:20.980 stay in a larger area. 1586 01:08:20.980 --> 01:08:23.210 I don't want. If I go to La Marque, 1587 01:08:23.210 --> 01:08:25.520 I understand there is no more close by. 1588 01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:28.210 We're gonna total effect the school district. 1589 01:08:28.210 --> 01:08:29.043 And I will probably see 1590 01:08:29.043 --> 01:08:32.620 the same opposition from local ISD folks. 1591 01:08:32.620 --> 01:08:34.003 No, they don't exist. 1592 01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:37.503 They ceased to exist in La Marque. 1593 01:08:38.590 --> 01:08:41.800 Okay, this is something else that we talked about. 1594 01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:43.980 The Race to the Top money. 1595 01:08:43.980 --> 01:08:44.900 I looked this up. 1596 01:08:44.900 --> 01:08:47.570 And it said the federal Department of Education 1597 01:08:47.570 --> 01:08:49.420 used executive earmarks to create 1598 01:08:49.420 --> 01:08:51.320 the fund Race to the Top Program. 1599 01:08:51.320 --> 01:08:52.830 A federal grant competition that 1600 01:08:52.830 --> 01:08:56.525 invited the states and various people to apply 1601 01:08:56.525 --> 01:09:01.030 in the department's competition scheme. 1602 01:09:01.030 --> 01:09:02.280 While this federal government 1603 01:09:02.280 --> 01:09:05.628 could not get past the Common Core, 1604 01:09:05.628 --> 01:09:09.770 by offering the money to Race to the Top, 1605 01:09:09.770 --> 01:09:14.770 you had to commit to adopting Common Core standards. 1606 01:09:15.140 --> 01:09:19.327 Race to the Top effect on push for Common Core circulation 1607 01:09:19.327 --> 01:09:22.762 and working set education standards before 1608 01:09:22.762 --> 01:09:27.480 that had to be set in order to get the money 1609 01:09:27.480 --> 01:09:29.580 for Race to the Top. 1610 01:09:29.580 --> 01:09:31.630 The pros and cons of that was one of the problem. 1611 01:09:31.630 --> 01:09:35.000 I just wanted to say that's why I was under the impression 1612 01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:38.840 that Race to the Top was connected to Common Core. 1613 01:09:38.840 --> 01:09:40.380 You had to be teaching Common Core. 1614 01:09:40.380 --> 01:09:42.000 Yes, ma'am, in the website, they say that. 1615 01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:43.300 But, remember, Common Core. 1616 01:09:43.300 --> 01:09:45.945 I mean, our teaching grant was received by 1617 01:09:45.945 --> 01:09:50.945 IDEA, Houston ISD, Harmony, and maybe one other school. 1618 01:09:51.170 --> 01:09:55.453 We never use that word or that program at all. 1619 01:09:55.453 --> 01:09:56.450 I mean, it was a TEKS-based. 1620 01:09:56.450 --> 01:09:58.650 It's impossible for Houston ISD to use Common Core. 1621 01:09:58.650 --> 01:10:01.015 I mean, and I said I. 1622 01:10:01.015 --> 01:10:01.900 I don't know that anything's 1623 01:10:01.900 --> 01:10:03.353 impossible for Houston ISD. 1624 01:10:06.580 --> 01:10:07.413 That's it. 1625 01:10:07.413 --> 01:10:08.246 They wouldn't, because they use 1626 01:10:08.246 --> 01:10:11.170 most of their funding from state. So, we're a TEKS school. 1627 01:10:11.170 --> 01:10:13.330 So, Mister Cortez actually has not spoken 1628 01:10:13.330 --> 01:10:14.823 for the first time in this. 1629 01:10:16.030 --> 01:10:17.530 Soner, it's good to see you. 1630 01:10:18.380 --> 01:10:23.380 And, you know, let me start by congratulating you 1631 01:10:24.660 --> 01:10:25.883 for making it this far. 1632 01:10:28.340 --> 01:10:32.860 Obviously, as you've heard from the capacity hearings 1633 01:10:32.860 --> 01:10:35.510 and what's going on yesterday, what's going on today, 1634 01:10:38.420 --> 01:10:41.040 of all the applicants that have come up, 1635 01:10:41.040 --> 01:10:43.120 I continue to have the same concern. 1636 01:10:43.120 --> 01:10:46.620 And I have been into many of your charter schools. 1637 01:10:46.620 --> 01:10:48.770 Some of the Harmony campuses. 1638 01:10:48.770 --> 01:10:51.161 Some of them with you. 1639 01:10:51.161 --> 01:10:53.620 And some of them back home. 1640 01:10:53.620 --> 01:10:56.963 They exist in my hometown of Brownsville. 1641 01:10:59.950 --> 01:11:04.950 My concern, outside of some of the things that 1642 01:11:06.046 --> 01:11:08.420 you're being asked today, 1643 01:11:08.420 --> 01:11:09.990 is the same concern that I shared with 1644 01:11:09.990 --> 01:11:14.150 every other charter that's coming up before us. 1645 01:11:14.150 --> 01:11:16.033 The commissioner of education, 1646 01:11:18.460 --> 01:11:21.940 between the three month period of charter amendments, 1647 01:11:21.940 --> 01:11:26.940 has taken action from the end of March through June 12. 1648 01:11:27.230 --> 01:11:30.140 I guess two days ago. 1649 01:11:30.140 --> 01:11:31.830 And, during that timeframe, 1650 01:11:31.830 --> 01:11:36.810 has awarded 27558 additional seats 1651 01:11:36.810 --> 01:11:40.580 to be created in Texas in our local charter schools. 1652 01:11:40.580 --> 01:11:44.640 He's approved or allowed the expansion 1653 01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:48.448 of over three dozen new campus sites 1654 01:11:48.448 --> 01:11:51.733 within the same three month period. 1655 01:11:53.150 --> 01:11:56.780 And, as I've been listening to some of the testimony 1656 01:11:56.780 --> 01:11:57.613 and some of the people 1657 01:11:57.613 --> 01:12:00.660 and the surrounding and affected communities, 1658 01:12:00.660 --> 01:12:03.647 I have a very difficult time supporting 1659 01:12:07.350 --> 01:12:10.223 the creation of any new charters. 1660 01:12:14.523 --> 01:12:18.553 And so, it's just one of those situations for me where, 1661 01:12:21.610 --> 01:12:25.220 knowing that we have this 10 year budget 1662 01:12:25.220 --> 01:12:27.660 that they gave us that says 1663 01:12:27.660 --> 01:12:31.420 it's gonna be about $350 million over a decade 1664 01:12:31.420 --> 01:12:32.593 that's taken out of. 1665 01:12:34.730 --> 01:12:38.693 Reallocated, I guess, is what the conversation was before. 1666 01:12:40.890 --> 01:12:42.995 It just seems very difficult for me 1667 01:12:42.995 --> 01:12:46.682 to wrap my head around supporting 1668 01:12:46.682 --> 01:12:50.240 an additional charter being created in Texas. 1669 01:12:50.240 --> 01:12:53.506 I will tell you what I have told everybody else. 1670 01:12:53.506 --> 01:12:56.900 This round, and in previous rounds. 1671 01:12:56.900 --> 01:13:01.750 As I've gone through this process for several years now. 1672 01:13:01.750 --> 01:13:03.583 And I tell them the same thing. 1673 01:13:05.102 --> 01:13:09.080 My position on this is I can't support it. 1674 01:13:09.080 --> 01:13:11.050 I can't support the creation of a new charter. 1675 01:13:11.050 --> 01:13:12.390 But, if, for some reason, 1676 01:13:12.390 --> 01:13:14.470 you make it to the end of this process, 1677 01:13:14.470 --> 01:13:16.984 the minute you have Texas children in your schools, 1678 01:13:16.984 --> 01:13:19.840 my role has then changed. 1679 01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:23.520 And I have no other alternative 1680 01:13:24.940 --> 01:13:29.940 than to be part of a team of 15 that, 1681 01:13:30.470 --> 01:13:31.620 when we create policy, 1682 01:13:31.620 --> 01:13:35.230 we create policy that continues to 1683 01:13:35.230 --> 01:13:38.220 support and nourish thriving education 1684 01:13:38.220 --> 01:13:40.570 for the over 5.4 million kids. 1685 01:13:40.570 --> 01:13:43.310 But, today, I'm just not inclined to 1686 01:13:43.310 --> 01:13:46.690 be able to support the expansion of that charter. 1687 01:13:46.690 --> 01:13:49.540 But I do want to congratulate you for making it this far. 1688 01:13:55.490 --> 01:13:57.264 I really appreciate your candid comments 1689 01:13:57.264 --> 01:13:59.170 throughout this process. 1690 01:13:59.170 --> 01:14:00.003 I appreciate that. 1691 01:14:00.003 --> 01:14:02.030 I know you are a supporter of charter school, 1692 01:14:02.030 --> 01:14:04.050 because you've been in many charter schools, 1693 01:14:04.050 --> 01:14:05.480 including Harmony. 1694 01:14:05.480 --> 01:14:07.830 So, I have great respect for that decision. 1695 01:14:07.830 --> 01:14:08.943 So, I mean. 1696 01:14:10.160 --> 01:14:12.250 And I would just close with this. 1697 01:14:12.250 --> 01:14:15.637 I support every student in Texas public schools. 1698 01:14:15.637 --> 01:14:18.650 But we have an obligation today to decide 1699 01:14:18.650 --> 01:14:21.320 whether these five go forward. 1700 01:14:21.320 --> 01:14:23.860 And you've seen, as you've been sitting out there, 1701 01:14:23.860 --> 01:14:25.610 how I have voted on the previous ones. 1702 01:14:25.610 --> 01:14:26.720 And my vote won't change 1703 01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:29.430 between this one and the one after you. 1704 01:14:29.430 --> 01:14:32.440 But what I have told them I'm gonna tell you. 1705 01:14:32.440 --> 01:14:37.300 If you're authorized, once you move forward, that changes. 1706 01:14:37.300 --> 01:14:38.133 But. 1707 01:14:43.570 --> 01:14:46.940 Right now, this is kind of the time for questions. 1708 01:14:46.940 --> 01:14:48.070 Well, I just wanted to make a statement, 1709 01:14:48.070 --> 01:14:50.170 'cause I already know what I'm doing, mister chair. 1710 01:14:50.170 --> 01:14:53.303 And I just want to put that out there, because. 1711 01:14:53.303 --> 01:14:54.280 I know I'm going to make the same statement 1712 01:14:54.280 --> 01:14:55.920 to the next group that comes up, as well. 1713 01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:57.190 As I have to the past groups. 1714 01:14:57.190 --> 01:14:59.690 Miss Little has not spoken yet. 1715 01:14:59.690 --> 01:15:02.490 Mister chair, I'd like to call for a vote. 1716 01:15:02.490 --> 01:15:05.340 Okay, previous question, call for the question. 1717 01:15:05.340 --> 01:15:06.240 Is there a second? 1718 01:15:07.430 --> 01:15:09.450 Okay, it's been made and seconded that 1719 01:15:09.450 --> 01:15:11.540 we call for the vote. 1720 01:15:11.540 --> 01:15:13.240 Previous question. 1721 01:15:13.240 --> 01:15:15.417 That is debatable. 1722 01:15:15.417 --> 01:15:16.250 Not debatable. 1723 01:15:16.250 --> 01:15:17.133 Excuse me. 1724 01:15:17.133 --> 01:15:17.966 Not debatable. 1725 01:15:17.966 --> 01:15:18.799 Not amendable. 1726 01:15:18.799 --> 01:15:20.220 It takes a 2/3 vote. 1727 01:15:20.220 --> 01:15:22.390 So, if you're in favor of 1728 01:15:23.670 --> 01:15:26.120 cutting off discussion at this point 1729 01:15:26.120 --> 01:15:28.360 and proceeding to a vote, 1730 01:15:28.360 --> 01:15:30.670 then you would vote in favor of this motion. 1731 01:15:30.670 --> 01:15:32.535 If not, then vote the other way. 1732 01:15:32.535 --> 01:15:33.840 It takes a 2/3 vote. 1733 01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:35.320 So, all in favor. 1734 01:15:35.320 --> 01:15:36.270 I'm sorry. 1735 01:15:36.270 --> 01:15:37.680 I was just gonna say a show of hands. 1736 01:15:37.680 --> 01:15:39.132 Oh, yeah, I was gonna say. 1737 01:15:39.132 --> 01:15:39.965 2/3 vote. 1738 01:15:39.965 --> 01:15:44.230 All in favor of halting discussion and moving to a vote, 1739 01:15:44.230 --> 01:15:46.380 signify by raising your right hand, please. 1740 01:15:48.748 --> 01:15:50.720 I'm only counting the right hands. 1741 01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:52.750 One, two, three, four, five, six, 1742 01:15:52.750 --> 01:15:57.210 seven, right, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13. 1743 01:15:57.210 --> 01:15:58.043 Oh, sorry. 1744 01:15:58.043 --> 01:16:00.400 Motion carries. 1745 01:16:00.400 --> 01:16:04.370 Thank you, gentlemen, for your time and your testimony. 1746 01:16:04.370 --> 01:16:06.510 We'll now proceed to a vote. 1747 01:16:06.510 --> 01:16:11.180 The motion currently before us is to veto 1748 01:16:11.180 --> 01:16:16.180 the Royal Public Schools Austin slash Houston. 1749 01:16:17.100 --> 01:16:19.260 So, if you're in favor of vetoing, 1750 01:16:19.260 --> 01:16:20.620 obviously, you vote in favor of this. 1751 01:16:20.620 --> 01:16:24.050 If you're opposed to vetoing, you vote no. 1752 01:16:24.050 --> 01:16:25.730 Roll call vote again, I'm assuming. 1753 01:16:25.730 --> 01:16:27.930 I think that's the standing order right now. 1754 01:16:35.038 --> 01:16:37.705 Okay, well, Mister Mercer, okay. 1755 01:16:43.160 --> 01:16:44.990 Well, we're pretty much gonna have to vote 1756 01:16:44.990 --> 01:16:46.640 with who we have here. 1757 01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:48.520 'Cause the vote's been called. 1758 01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:51.113 So, okay, so, we'll proceed with the roll call. 1759 01:16:55.780 --> 01:16:56.773 Miss Perez. 1760 01:16:58.700 --> 01:16:59.587 Okay, tell me. 1761 01:16:59.587 --> 01:17:00.893 I vote no for. 1762 01:17:01.940 --> 01:17:03.741 Vote yes if you want to veto. 1763 01:17:03.741 --> 01:17:05.540 Yes. 1764 01:17:05.540 --> 01:17:06.653 Mister Cortez. 1765 01:17:08.250 --> 01:17:09.180 Miss Perez-Diaz. 1766 01:17:09.180 --> 01:17:10.800 Yes. 1767 01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:12.120 Mister Allen. 1768 01:17:12.120 --> 01:17:13.620 No. 1769 01:17:13.620 --> 01:17:14.720 Mister Mercer. 1770 01:17:15.590 --> 01:17:17.426 Doctor Robinson. 1771 01:17:17.426 --> 01:17:18.426 No. 1772 01:17:20.270 --> 01:17:21.320 Mrs. Cargill. 1773 01:17:23.483 --> 01:17:25.322 Yes for action. 1774 01:17:25.322 --> 01:17:27.170 To veto. 1775 01:17:27.170 --> 01:17:28.053 To veto. 1776 01:17:28.053 --> 01:17:29.636 Oh, no. 1777 01:17:35.480 --> 01:17:37.430 Was that your no, Doctor Ellis? 1778 01:17:38.470 --> 01:17:39.920 Okay, so, now it's your turn. 1779 01:17:41.680 --> 01:17:42.623 Mister Maynard. 1780 01:17:44.070 --> 01:17:44.903 Miss Hardy. 1781 01:17:44.903 --> 01:17:45.736 Yes. 1782 01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:51.353 I'm sorry, Miss Hardy, did you say. 1783 01:17:52.980 --> 01:17:54.130 Mrs. Little. 1784 01:17:54.130 --> 01:17:54.963 Yes. 1785 01:17:55.800 --> 01:17:56.633 Miss Davis. 1786 01:17:56.633 --> 01:17:57.466 Yes. 1787 01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:00.527 Mrs. Melton-Malone. 1788 01:18:00.527 --> 01:18:01.604 Yes. 1789 01:18:01.604 --> 01:18:02.459 Mister Rowley. 1790 01:18:02.459 --> 01:18:03.292 Yes. 1791 01:18:06.187 --> 01:18:09.187 So, I have eight yeses and five nos. 1792 01:18:11.170 --> 01:18:12.570 Yes, that's correct. 1793 01:18:13.450 --> 01:18:14.900 And two absent. 1794 01:18:14.900 --> 01:18:16.760 Okay, so, eight yeses and five nos. 1795 01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:20.353 So, the motion to veto passed. 1796 01:18:22.660 --> 01:18:25.513 That was a motion to veto passed. 1797 01:18:28.690 --> 01:18:29.523 Excuse me. 1798 01:18:31.220 --> 01:18:35.570 No charter awarded by an eight to five vote. 1799 01:18:36.604 --> 01:18:38.830 Okay, so, the next item. 1800 01:18:38.830 --> 01:18:40.363 The next applicant, please. 1801 01:18:47.010 --> 01:18:51.890 Final applicant of the day is Houston Classical. 1802 01:18:51.890 --> 01:18:55.030 Whose proposed superintendent, Davis Salazar, 1803 01:18:55.030 --> 01:18:57.150 has a track record of launching and leading 1804 01:18:57.150 --> 01:18:58.690 a successful school that serves 1805 01:18:58.690 --> 01:19:02.370 special population students particularly well. 1806 01:19:02.370 --> 01:19:05.340 On a personal note, last legislative session, 1807 01:19:05.340 --> 01:19:07.959 when our legislatures were looking to 1808 01:19:07.959 --> 01:19:12.286 approve some state law that would allow for 1809 01:19:12.286 --> 01:19:15.510 charter schools to serve special populations, 1810 01:19:15.510 --> 01:19:19.500 I actually was put in touch with Mister Salazar, 1811 01:19:19.500 --> 01:19:21.810 who runs a successful model. 1812 01:19:21.810 --> 01:19:23.480 Their proposed school model will bring 1813 01:19:23.480 --> 01:19:26.690 the great books to K through eight student population 1814 01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:29.210 in the Alief area. 1815 01:19:29.210 --> 01:19:32.760 Here, today, the proposed superintendent Davis Salazar 1816 01:19:32.760 --> 01:19:34.830 and board member Chris Smith 1817 01:19:34.830 --> 01:19:36.370 will present for five minutes 1818 01:19:36.370 --> 01:19:39.493 and be available for questions and answers. 1819 01:19:40.390 --> 01:19:43.210 Okay, and so, again, it's Mister Salazar 1820 01:19:44.180 --> 01:19:45.920 and Mister Chrispin. 1821 01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:46.950 Chris Smith. 1822 01:19:46.950 --> 01:19:48.503 Chris Smith. 1823 01:19:48.503 --> 01:19:49.830 Oh, Mister Smith, okay. 1824 01:19:49.830 --> 01:19:51.263 There you go. 1825 01:19:52.240 --> 01:19:53.270 Well, good morning. 1826 01:19:53.270 --> 01:19:55.334 Good afternoon, everyone. 1827 01:19:55.334 --> 01:19:58.030 I just want to say that we're very humbled 1828 01:19:58.030 --> 01:19:59.210 to be here today. 1829 01:19:59.210 --> 01:20:02.160 And that it has been a very long process. 1830 01:20:02.160 --> 01:20:04.410 We're humbled at the opportunity of, 1831 01:20:04.410 --> 01:20:07.853 perhaps, being approved and open a successful school. 1832 01:20:09.700 --> 01:20:11.470 We're excited and humbled to speak to you 1833 01:20:11.470 --> 01:20:13.560 about my background a little bit today, 1834 01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:15.460 the need for Houston Classical, 1835 01:20:15.460 --> 01:20:17.220 and how we can plan to address the needs 1836 01:20:17.220 --> 01:20:19.240 through our approach. 1837 01:20:19.240 --> 01:20:20.730 Again, my name is Davis Salazar. 1838 01:20:20.730 --> 01:20:22.270 And I'm the proposed head of school 1839 01:20:22.270 --> 01:20:24.250 of Houston Classical Charter School 1840 01:20:24.250 --> 01:20:25.650 for the families in Houston. 1841 01:20:26.690 --> 01:20:28.730 As an immigrant, we move to this country 1842 01:20:28.730 --> 01:20:30.365 to pursue the American dream. 1843 01:20:30.365 --> 01:20:33.400 My family understands the only way to achieve 1844 01:20:33.400 --> 01:20:35.809 the American dream was through hard work 1845 01:20:35.809 --> 01:20:38.383 and a focus on education. 1846 01:20:39.420 --> 01:20:41.883 I have held to that dream my entire life. 1847 01:20:41.883 --> 01:20:43.973 And I still do today. 1848 01:20:46.060 --> 01:20:48.900 Thus, I became an educator and a leader 1849 01:20:48.900 --> 01:20:51.483 to help others achieve their dreams. 1850 01:20:52.380 --> 01:20:54.590 In my previous role in co-founder 1851 01:20:54.590 --> 01:20:56.002 and head of school of 1852 01:20:56.002 --> 01:20:56.860 The Neighborhood Charter School of Harlem. 1853 01:20:56.860 --> 01:20:59.210 I led the number one independent charter school 1854 01:20:59.210 --> 01:21:01.760 in the English language arts and in mathematics. 1855 01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:04.070 This was done with 30% of my population 1856 01:21:04.070 --> 01:21:05.343 being special education. 1857 01:21:07.170 --> 01:21:08.590 I'd also founded and erected 1858 01:21:08.590 --> 01:21:11.943 a specialized program for students on the autism spectrum. 1859 01:21:13.010 --> 01:21:14.854 The belief that all students can learn 1860 01:21:14.854 --> 01:21:17.260 and have a great education no matter 1861 01:21:17.260 --> 01:21:19.360 their history, language, or their designation 1862 01:21:19.360 --> 01:21:21.840 is embedded into Houston Classical. 1863 01:21:21.840 --> 01:21:23.453 We are an inclusive school. 1864 01:21:24.670 --> 01:21:26.880 Our entire founding team believes that 1865 01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:28.958 all students can achieve. 1866 01:21:28.958 --> 01:21:33.958 As a team, combined, we have over 40 years in education. 1867 01:21:34.120 --> 01:21:35.700 We have a robust local board 1868 01:21:35.700 --> 01:21:38.950 with diverse backgrounds and composition. 1869 01:21:38.950 --> 01:21:40.950 Additionally, our Houston-based board 1870 01:21:40.950 --> 01:21:42.800 is deeply committed to the education 1871 01:21:42.800 --> 01:21:45.170 and the overall improvement of the community. 1872 01:21:45.170 --> 01:21:47.220 In fact, some of our board members 1873 01:21:47.220 --> 01:21:49.193 were raised in southwest Houston. 1874 01:21:50.870 --> 01:21:51.703 In writing the charter, 1875 01:21:51.703 --> 01:21:54.300 we identify Alief as a community in need. 1876 01:21:55.881 --> 01:21:58.190 Alief does have successful schools. 1877 01:21:58.190 --> 01:22:01.490 And we look forward to learning from their best practices. 1878 01:22:01.490 --> 01:22:03.673 However, it is not enough. 1879 01:22:04.750 --> 01:22:07.350 There's a large subset of the community that is not. 1880 01:22:07.350 --> 01:22:10.720 And I am referencing the 2018 STAAR Assessment. 1881 01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:14.950 In fact, in 2018, the average elementary school in AISD 1882 01:22:14.950 --> 01:22:18.520 averages 33% of students meeting standards in ELA 1883 01:22:18.520 --> 01:22:21.053 and 41% in mathematics. 1884 01:22:22.780 --> 01:22:25.280 One of those schools where 900 students attend 1885 01:22:25.280 --> 01:22:28.943 had 26% of students meet standards in English language arts. 1886 01:22:30.040 --> 01:22:32.040 Additionally, we noted that the subgroups, 1887 01:22:32.040 --> 01:22:34.910 such as ELL students, like myself, 1888 01:22:34.910 --> 01:22:37.510 had an 18% passing rate in the ELA STAAR assessment. 1889 01:22:38.670 --> 01:22:41.220 With the last year, my board and I have spoken 1890 01:22:42.596 --> 01:22:44.460 to over 300 families and community members 1891 01:22:44.460 --> 01:22:47.090 who are excited and expressed their excitement 1892 01:22:48.251 --> 01:22:49.570 of our school and approach. 1893 01:22:49.570 --> 01:22:53.030 Our focus on teaching reading, writing, computing, math 1894 01:22:53.030 --> 01:22:55.230 begins in kindergarten day one. 1895 01:22:55.230 --> 01:22:58.670 We know this is pivotal and foundational. 1896 01:22:58.670 --> 01:23:00.010 In order to meet the urgent need, 1897 01:23:00.010 --> 01:23:02.050 Houston Classical ensures that students 1898 01:23:02.050 --> 01:23:03.660 are learning at an optimal level, 1899 01:23:03.660 --> 01:23:07.510 receive proper supports, and then mold the next generation 1900 01:23:07.510 --> 01:23:09.363 of the American dreamers, like I am. 1901 01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:12.760 We're gonna do this by four components. 1902 01:23:12.760 --> 01:23:16.830 We are a classical school and a charter. 1903 01:23:16.830 --> 01:23:19.620 We're gonna focus on literacy skills and literature. 1904 01:23:19.620 --> 01:23:21.330 In Houston and Alief, in particular, 1905 01:23:21.330 --> 01:23:22.480 there are a high number of scholars 1906 01:23:22.480 --> 01:23:24.830 that are not reading at grade level. 1907 01:23:24.830 --> 01:23:27.820 Thus we aim to remedy that by focusing on literacy 1908 01:23:27.820 --> 01:23:31.173 beginning in kindergarten with read alouds every day 1909 01:23:31.173 --> 01:23:33.653 and whole class novel beginning in third grade. 1910 01:23:34.850 --> 01:23:36.400 Number two, critical thinking. 1911 01:23:36.400 --> 01:23:37.994 We believe in developing students 1912 01:23:37.994 --> 01:23:40.297 to only not read great books, 1913 01:23:40.297 --> 01:23:42.560 but to critically think about themes, ideas, 1914 01:23:42.560 --> 01:23:43.590 and their points of view. 1915 01:23:43.590 --> 01:23:47.350 We strongly believe in teaching scholars how to think, 1916 01:23:47.350 --> 01:23:48.750 as opposed to what to think. 1917 01:23:49.670 --> 01:23:52.700 Number three, oral development and Socratic seminars. 1918 01:23:52.700 --> 01:23:55.470 Research have demonstrated that, 1919 01:23:55.470 --> 01:23:57.770 to ensure ELL scholars' acquisition of English, 1920 01:23:57.770 --> 01:24:00.160 oral development must be addressed. 1921 01:24:00.160 --> 01:24:01.660 Those modern schools depend on 1922 01:24:01.660 --> 01:24:03.210 building oral development strategies 1923 01:24:03.210 --> 01:24:04.480 throughout the day. 1924 01:24:04.480 --> 01:24:05.950 This is something that I've experienced 1925 01:24:05.950 --> 01:24:09.770 in my own life as a recent immigrant as a third grader. 1926 01:24:09.770 --> 01:24:12.320 And something that I had in my old school, as well. 1927 01:24:13.690 --> 01:24:15.160 The teaching of values. 1928 01:24:15.160 --> 01:24:17.927 We believe in preparing our scholars not just for college, 1929 01:24:17.927 --> 01:24:19.230 but for life. 1930 01:24:19.230 --> 01:24:21.830 We believe in equal importance of academic achievement 1931 01:24:21.830 --> 01:24:23.540 and character development. 1932 01:24:23.540 --> 01:24:25.820 For example, we will teach values 1933 01:24:25.820 --> 01:24:27.260 through our daily read alouds, lessons, 1934 01:24:27.260 --> 01:24:29.170 and conversations with scholars. 1935 01:24:29.170 --> 01:24:32.355 And, lastly, I have dedicated my entire life, 1936 01:24:32.355 --> 01:24:35.410 12 years of education, 1937 01:24:35.410 --> 01:24:36.323 to the pursuit of all scholars 1938 01:24:36.323 --> 01:24:39.437 have equal access to a great education in their communities. 1939 01:24:39.437 --> 01:24:41.022 I also will proclaim today that 1940 01:24:41.022 --> 01:24:43.050 I'm a very smart man. 1941 01:24:43.050 --> 01:24:44.810 Because I married a Texan. 1942 01:24:44.810 --> 01:24:49.370 And we moved to Texas to establish a school 1943 01:24:49.370 --> 01:24:51.330 and raise my family. 1944 01:24:51.330 --> 01:24:52.892 As my wife and I now decide 1945 01:24:52.892 --> 01:24:54.670 what school my daughter should go to. 1946 01:24:54.670 --> 01:24:57.030 My 21 month old daughter to attend. 1947 01:24:57.030 --> 01:24:59.200 We have the luxury of having options. 1948 01:24:59.200 --> 01:25:00.870 And that is amazing, because we live in this country, 1949 01:25:00.870 --> 01:25:02.410 to have options. 1950 01:25:02.410 --> 01:25:04.560 However, there are other families in Houston 1951 01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:05.443 and the greater Houston area 1952 01:25:05.443 --> 01:25:07.423 that do not have that opportunity. 1953 01:25:08.350 --> 01:25:12.290 It's also our responsibility, as a charter, 1954 01:25:12.290 --> 01:25:15.450 to be innovative in the community we try to operate. 1955 01:25:15.450 --> 01:25:18.010 Therefore, Houston Classical will be 1956 01:25:18.010 --> 01:25:20.499 the only classical education school 1957 01:25:20.499 --> 01:25:24.380 that will address poor students in the Houston area. 1958 01:25:24.380 --> 01:25:25.213 Thank you. 1959 01:25:28.780 --> 01:25:30.840 Sure, just, again, thank the board 1960 01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:33.200 for the opportunity to be here today. 1961 01:25:33.200 --> 01:25:34.210 My name is Chris Smith. 1962 01:25:34.210 --> 01:25:36.607 I'm currently the CFO and COO 1963 01:25:36.607 --> 01:25:39.190 of the Windmaker Partnership in Houston. 1964 01:25:39.190 --> 01:25:40.023 I'm a native Texan. 1965 01:25:40.023 --> 01:25:42.826 Actually grew up just up the road in Belton. 1966 01:25:42.826 --> 01:25:45.307 Really excited to be here today. 1967 01:25:45.307 --> 01:25:47.830 Firmly believe in the power of education 1968 01:25:47.830 --> 01:25:49.687 and in the vision of Houston Classical. 1969 01:25:49.687 --> 01:25:53.100 And just excited to represent the board here today. 1970 01:25:53.100 --> 01:25:53.933 Very good. 1971 01:25:53.933 --> 01:25:55.037 Thank you, gentlemen. 1972 01:25:55.037 --> 01:25:57.483 Any questions of these gentlemen? 1973 01:26:00.010 --> 01:26:03.460 Miss Perez. 1974 01:26:03.460 --> 01:26:07.313 Oh, will you allow Doctor Robinson to go first? 1975 01:26:08.413 --> 01:26:09.496 There you go. 1976 01:26:11.950 --> 01:26:13.420 Thank y'all for coming here. 1977 01:26:13.420 --> 01:26:17.360 And so, you lived in Texas for a year or two? 1978 01:26:17.360 --> 01:26:18.369 This is my first year. 1979 01:26:18.369 --> 01:26:19.254 Your first year. 1980 01:26:19.254 --> 01:26:21.560 And you have experience in New York City? 1981 01:26:21.560 --> 01:26:22.393 Yes. 1982 01:26:22.393 --> 01:26:24.600 Teaching and leading school and founding a school. 1983 01:26:26.660 --> 01:26:28.586 Well, a couple points. 1984 01:26:28.586 --> 01:26:31.203 You know, on the last vote. 1985 01:26:33.240 --> 01:26:35.537 And what I've been saying all day is 1986 01:26:35.537 --> 01:26:39.650 I don't feel comfortable taking gamble 1987 01:26:39.650 --> 01:26:43.220 with taxpayers' money on something that is 1988 01:26:43.220 --> 01:26:45.120 what I consider high risk. 1989 01:26:45.120 --> 01:26:48.010 And, obviously, Soner Tarim has 1990 01:26:48.010 --> 01:26:50.270 a long experience and everything. 1991 01:26:50.270 --> 01:26:55.270 But, in this, the two points here is, 1992 01:26:55.290 --> 01:26:58.450 first of all, in Alief ISD, 1993 01:26:58.450 --> 01:27:01.470 there are at least nine charter campuses 1994 01:27:01.470 --> 01:27:03.403 within Alief ISD right now. 1995 01:27:04.760 --> 01:27:08.540 Some of their schools are doing kind of marginal 1996 01:27:08.540 --> 01:27:11.067 or on the poor side. 1997 01:27:11.067 --> 01:27:14.810 But they have quite a bit of variety 1998 01:27:14.810 --> 01:27:16.723 in terms of programs they offer. 1999 01:27:17.880 --> 01:27:20.060 Mandarin immersion they offer. 2000 01:27:20.060 --> 01:27:22.386 That's just one of the most unusual things. 2001 01:27:22.386 --> 01:27:24.143 Dual language. 2002 01:27:25.090 --> 01:27:28.210 They have a lot of offerings there. 2003 01:27:28.210 --> 01:27:33.210 And so, I'm not sure if there's really a need there. 2004 01:27:37.486 --> 01:27:40.650 And I don't know if. 2005 01:27:40.650 --> 01:27:42.160 And, again, as I've said before, 2006 01:27:42.160 --> 01:27:44.950 starting up a school from scratch 2007 01:27:44.950 --> 01:27:46.270 is even more difficult than 2008 01:27:46.270 --> 01:27:48.700 assuming a superintendent position. 2009 01:27:48.700 --> 01:27:52.183 And in an area that's demographically challenging. 2010 01:27:53.494 --> 01:27:58.440 Being a classroom teacher or even being assistant principal 2011 01:27:58.440 --> 01:28:01.240 is quite a bit different than running a whole school. 2012 01:28:01.240 --> 01:28:05.200 And doing it in an area where you're not. 2013 01:28:05.200 --> 01:28:07.040 Your wife might have familiarity, 2014 01:28:07.040 --> 01:28:09.250 but you don't have as much familiarity. 2015 01:28:09.250 --> 01:28:11.840 So, that would be my concern. 2016 01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:13.020 But I appreciate, again. 2017 01:28:13.020 --> 01:28:15.710 As I said before, you obviously have a passion 2018 01:28:15.710 --> 01:28:16.740 for teaching kids. 2019 01:28:16.740 --> 01:28:19.823 And I hope you continue regardless in that effort. 2020 01:28:20.862 --> 01:28:21.695 I just wanted. 2021 01:28:21.695 --> 01:28:23.520 If I can add, Doctor Robinson. 2022 01:28:23.520 --> 01:28:28.520 So, being in Texas and knowing that I needed 2023 01:28:28.590 --> 01:28:32.550 some background in the TEKS and Texas education, 2024 01:28:32.550 --> 01:28:34.070 I have two board members. 2025 01:28:34.070 --> 01:28:36.887 One was a turnaround principal at the ISD level 2026 01:28:36.887 --> 01:28:37.720 and on my board. 2027 01:28:37.720 --> 01:28:41.110 He's now the current principal of Saint Thomas in Houston. 2028 01:28:41.110 --> 01:28:44.670 And also I have a founding assistant principal 2029 01:28:44.670 --> 01:28:46.410 from KIPP who's also on my board. 2030 01:28:46.410 --> 01:28:48.410 And then, lastly, I do want to say that, 2031 01:28:49.480 --> 01:28:53.170 in 2012, I did co-found a charter school from scratch. 2032 01:28:53.170 --> 01:28:55.840 And we started together from handing out, 2033 01:28:55.840 --> 01:28:58.610 canvasing the streets on Saturdays and Sundays, 2034 01:28:58.610 --> 01:29:00.890 to building an amazing building now 2035 01:29:00.890 --> 01:29:01.723 where it's just gonna. 2036 01:29:01.723 --> 01:29:04.120 It's gonna double to become a second school. 2037 01:29:04.120 --> 01:29:05.450 So, I do have experience in 2038 01:29:05.450 --> 01:29:07.863 building my own from the beginning. 2039 01:29:08.800 --> 01:29:12.130 And I do understand your points in regards to Alief. 2040 01:29:12.130 --> 01:29:13.670 We do also try to. 2041 01:29:13.670 --> 01:29:16.140 We're going to teach Latin beginning in fifth grade. 2042 01:29:16.140 --> 01:29:17.750 So, we're also gonna have that component. 2043 01:29:17.750 --> 01:29:20.160 And that goes directly to our classical model. 2044 01:29:20.160 --> 01:29:23.430 But I hear what you're saying in regards to Alief. 2045 01:29:23.430 --> 01:29:24.600 There are nine schools. 2046 01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:26.130 And a lot of those schools are 2047 01:29:26.130 --> 01:29:29.820 actually also middle schools. 2048 01:29:29.820 --> 01:29:31.810 So, there's still a need for elementary schools, 2049 01:29:31.810 --> 01:29:34.700 as I mentioned in my introduction. 2050 01:29:34.700 --> 01:29:36.167 But thank you for your. 2051 01:29:40.140 --> 01:29:42.607 It's actually Miss Perez and then Miss Davis. 2052 01:29:42.607 --> 01:29:44.400 Unless Miss Perez will choose to 2053 01:29:44.400 --> 01:29:46.443 yield the floor to you, Miss Davis. 2054 01:29:48.020 --> 01:29:48.853 Thank you. 2055 01:29:50.910 --> 01:29:52.140 During your first interview, 2056 01:29:52.140 --> 01:29:55.000 you guys described pre-service training 2057 01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:57.190 for your teachers for 28 days, correct? 2058 01:29:57.190 --> 01:29:58.023 Yes, ma'am. 2059 01:29:58.023 --> 01:30:00.220 You also mentioned that you may or may not 2060 01:30:00.220 --> 01:30:03.200 be able to pay those teachers for that 28 days, correct? 2061 01:30:03.200 --> 01:30:04.033 Yes. 2062 01:30:04.033 --> 01:30:05.650 Have you been able to reflect on that anymore? 2063 01:30:05.650 --> 01:30:06.960 'Cause I would hate for a teacher 2064 01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:09.820 to have to work for 28 days without getting paid. 2065 01:30:09.820 --> 01:30:11.820 I don't even know if that's legal to do. 2066 01:30:13.240 --> 01:30:16.670 One thing is it's common practice in charter schools. 2067 01:30:16.670 --> 01:30:18.730 Especially the ones I've worked before. 2068 01:30:18.730 --> 01:30:20.650 And, secondly, we will pay our teachers. 2069 01:30:20.650 --> 01:30:22.020 We're not going to have our teachers 2070 01:30:22.020 --> 01:30:24.600 come for professional development and not pay them. 2071 01:30:24.600 --> 01:30:26.060 And, like I mentioned, also, 2072 01:30:26.060 --> 01:30:28.230 we also have flexible schedules. So, it's not going to be 2073 01:30:28.230 --> 01:30:31.070 eight hours of professional development. 2074 01:30:31.070 --> 01:30:33.370 We may have half a day of professional development 2075 01:30:33.370 --> 01:30:36.334 and also feed them and also celebrate. 2076 01:30:36.334 --> 01:30:39.350 Because starting a school from scratch, 2077 01:30:39.350 --> 01:30:42.290 your first year, you need to build a foundation 2078 01:30:42.290 --> 01:30:43.123 from the beginning. 2079 01:30:43.123 --> 01:30:44.250 So, we need the days. 2080 01:30:44.250 --> 01:30:45.819 And the days are going to be about 2081 01:30:45.819 --> 01:30:48.480 first building culture. 2082 01:30:48.480 --> 01:30:50.300 What is Houston Classical's culture? 2083 01:30:50.300 --> 01:30:51.330 How do we execute our. 2084 01:30:51.330 --> 01:30:53.166 And what I'm also proposing. 2085 01:30:53.166 --> 01:30:55.360 It's a very difficult task. 2086 01:30:55.360 --> 01:30:57.060 Because it's the language that we use 2087 01:30:57.060 --> 01:30:58.405 in order to address students. 2088 01:30:58.405 --> 01:31:01.410 I'm just worried about how you're going to pay them. 2089 01:31:01.410 --> 01:31:02.569 So, we're actually. 2090 01:31:02.569 --> 01:31:06.170 If approved, we will go in through a marketing campaign. 2091 01:31:06.170 --> 01:31:08.100 A fundraising campaign, I should say. 2092 01:31:08.100 --> 01:31:09.410 We're gonna raise our own private funds 2093 01:31:09.410 --> 01:31:11.280 to be able to pay our teachers. 2094 01:31:11.280 --> 01:31:13.160 And, if you don't raise it? 2095 01:31:13.160 --> 01:31:15.353 We're very confident we'll raise our money. 2096 01:31:20.610 --> 01:31:21.660 Miss Perez. 2097 01:31:24.180 --> 01:31:27.890 Just for my clarification, I'm gonna reiterate. 2098 01:31:27.890 --> 01:31:30.410 Did you just say you're confident that 2099 01:31:30.410 --> 01:31:33.270 you're gonna fundraise in order to pay your teachers 2100 01:31:33.270 --> 01:31:34.743 and, because of fundraising 2101 01:31:34.743 --> 01:31:36.870 is how you're gonna pay your teachers? 2102 01:31:36.870 --> 01:31:38.540 No, it's actually included in our budget 2103 01:31:38.540 --> 01:31:39.830 that we're gonna pay our teachers. 2104 01:31:39.830 --> 01:31:42.170 But, in order to. 2105 01:31:42.170 --> 01:31:43.260 In submitting the application, 2106 01:31:43.260 --> 01:31:45.163 you have a very tight budget. 2107 01:31:45.163 --> 01:31:46.510 A very conservative budget. 2108 01:31:46.510 --> 01:31:47.570 So, we have to. 2109 01:31:47.570 --> 01:31:49.930 And, giving the per people allocation, 2110 01:31:49.930 --> 01:31:51.830 you have to be very conservative. 2111 01:31:51.830 --> 01:31:54.650 Now, knowing that, we still allocate moneys 2112 01:31:54.650 --> 01:31:57.200 for teachers to be paid in the summer. 2113 01:31:57.200 --> 01:32:00.570 But, if, for some reason, our budget doesn't work, 2114 01:32:00.570 --> 01:32:04.106 we have the backups of fundraising to be able to do that. 2115 01:32:04.106 --> 01:32:04.939 Understood. 2116 01:32:04.939 --> 01:32:05.772 Thank you. 2117 01:32:05.772 --> 01:32:07.080 Would you please, both of you in leadership, 2118 01:32:07.080 --> 01:32:10.410 would you please list all of your ESBET credentials for me? 2119 01:32:10.410 --> 01:32:13.078 I currently do not have credentials. 2120 01:32:13.078 --> 01:32:13.911 You have no ESBET credentials 2121 01:32:13.911 --> 01:32:16.660 as teachers, principals, superintendents, nothing? 2122 01:32:16.660 --> 01:32:17.493 I have my experience. 2123 01:32:17.493 --> 01:32:19.670 Okay, will you tell me how many 2124 01:32:19.670 --> 01:32:22.380 of your projected teachers will have. 2125 01:32:22.380 --> 01:32:23.470 Will you be teaching dual language 2126 01:32:23.470 --> 01:32:25.860 and will they have their bilingual certifications? 2127 01:32:25.860 --> 01:32:28.080 If we meet the 20 rule, yes. 2128 01:32:28.080 --> 01:32:31.298 We'll have a dual language program. 2129 01:32:31.298 --> 01:32:34.330 But, in our first year, we will have. 2130 01:32:34.330 --> 01:32:35.650 In our application, we put that we would have 2131 01:32:35.650 --> 01:32:38.370 40% of our students being English language learners. 2132 01:32:38.370 --> 01:32:41.320 So, we're gonna hire a ELL coordinator. 2133 01:32:41.320 --> 01:32:43.193 In each grade, we'll have an ELL certified teacher 2134 01:32:43.193 --> 01:32:45.410 to be able to address the needs of the students. 2135 01:32:45.410 --> 01:32:47.894 And ELL certification is what exactly? 2136 01:32:47.894 --> 01:32:48.727 I'm sorry. 2137 01:32:48.727 --> 01:32:49.560 An ESL certification. 2138 01:32:49.560 --> 01:32:50.393 I apologize. 2139 01:32:50.393 --> 01:32:52.290 So, not a bilingual certification? 2140 01:32:52.290 --> 01:32:54.440 Only if we meet the 20 rule. 2141 01:32:54.440 --> 01:32:56.713 But you're projecting that you'll have 40? 2142 01:32:56.713 --> 01:32:58.296 40%. 2143 01:32:59.556 --> 01:33:00.389 Okay. 2144 01:33:02.980 --> 01:33:07.980 What about reading, writing, math, and science? 2145 01:33:08.090 --> 01:33:10.240 Are you projecting that your teachers 2146 01:33:10.240 --> 01:33:11.390 will have ESBET credentials 2147 01:33:11.390 --> 01:33:13.520 for those content areas, as well? 2148 01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:15.180 So, first, we'll follow the law. 2149 01:33:15.180 --> 01:33:16.013 Social studies. 2150 01:33:16.013 --> 01:33:17.680 Thank you. We will follow the law. 2151 01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:18.940 Whatever the law says in regards to. 2152 01:33:18.940 --> 01:33:21.060 Sorry, I'm not asking you to follow the law. 2153 01:33:21.060 --> 01:33:22.280 I am sure you'll follow the law. 2154 01:33:22.280 --> 01:33:23.610 What I'm asking is if you'll have 2155 01:33:23.610 --> 01:33:25.460 ESBET credentialed teachers. 2156 01:33:25.460 --> 01:33:27.038 It is not required for us to have. 2157 01:33:27.038 --> 01:33:27.871 I know it's not required. 2158 01:33:27.871 --> 01:33:29.633 But I'm asking you if you will. 2159 01:33:32.960 --> 01:33:33.793 I'm sorry. 2160 01:33:33.793 --> 01:33:36.220 So, we will not require that. 2161 01:33:36.220 --> 01:33:38.810 But, if they do have it, it's a plus. 2162 01:33:38.810 --> 01:33:39.643 I agree. 2163 01:33:39.643 --> 01:33:40.476 Thank you. 2164 01:33:43.080 --> 01:33:44.020 Miss Hardy. 2165 01:33:44.020 --> 01:33:45.880 I'd like to call a vote. 2166 01:33:45.880 --> 01:33:46.713 Okay. 2167 01:33:47.980 --> 01:33:49.529 Is there a second? 2168 01:33:49.529 --> 01:33:50.362 Second. 2169 01:33:50.362 --> 01:33:52.766 Okay, motion's been made and seconded 2170 01:33:52.766 --> 01:33:54.843 to call for a vote previous question. 2171 01:33:55.890 --> 01:33:56.723 Not debatable. 2172 01:33:56.723 --> 01:33:57.804 Not amendable. 2173 01:33:57.804 --> 01:33:59.392 Requires a 2/3 vote. 2174 01:33:59.392 --> 01:34:01.573 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 10. 2175 01:34:04.850 --> 01:34:06.335 Cut off debate. 2176 01:34:06.335 --> 01:34:07.630 Okay, so, there's 10 of us. 2177 01:34:07.630 --> 01:34:08.853 So, it would take. 2178 01:34:11.776 --> 01:34:12.980 And then decide. 2179 01:34:12.980 --> 01:34:15.400 All in favor of calling for the question 2180 01:34:15.400 --> 01:34:17.343 signify by raising your right hand. 2181 01:34:21.140 --> 01:34:22.420 Cutting off discussion. 2182 01:34:22.420 --> 01:34:23.450 Yes, we do. 2183 01:34:23.450 --> 01:34:24.393 We have a quorum. 2184 01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:31.320 Nine, 10. 2185 01:34:31.320 --> 01:34:33.070 All opposed, raise your right hand. 2186 01:34:34.230 --> 01:34:36.070 Motion carries. 2187 01:34:36.070 --> 01:34:37.350 Discussion is ended. 2188 01:34:37.350 --> 01:34:39.160 Gentlemen, thank you very much. 2189 01:34:39.160 --> 01:34:40.793 We'll now proceed to a vote. 2190 01:34:42.480 --> 01:34:44.535 We will now proceed to a vote. 2191 01:34:44.535 --> 01:34:47.419 (laughter) 2192 01:34:47.419 --> 01:34:50.080 Okay, so, yes means we agree with the veto. 2193 01:34:50.080 --> 01:34:51.570 This is a motion to veto. 2194 01:34:51.570 --> 01:34:52.403 That's correct. 2195 01:34:52.403 --> 01:34:53.400 Motion to veto. 2196 01:34:53.400 --> 01:34:56.163 So, yes is a veto. 2197 01:35:02.056 --> 01:35:04.920 Probably so. 2198 01:35:04.920 --> 01:35:06.050 Are we taking a break? 2199 01:35:06.050 --> 01:35:07.490 Are we at recess? 2200 01:35:07.490 --> 01:35:09.210 Knock on the door. 2201 01:35:09.210 --> 01:35:12.000 I'm thinking. 2202 01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:13.550 I'm thinking about voting. 2203 01:35:13.550 --> 01:35:14.988 I'm thinking about voting. 2204 01:35:14.988 --> 01:35:17.478 No, sir, we don't get to think about voting. 2205 01:35:17.478 --> 01:35:19.121 Call the vote. 2206 01:35:19.121 --> 01:35:20.140 We got a quorum. 2207 01:35:20.140 --> 01:35:21.163 Do we now? 2208 01:35:22.770 --> 01:35:25.030 All right, call for the vote. 2209 01:35:25.030 --> 01:35:26.130 Roll call, please. 2210 01:35:26.130 --> 01:35:27.280 Miss Perez. 2211 01:35:27.280 --> 01:35:28.390 Yes. 2212 01:35:28.390 --> 01:35:29.900 Mister Cortez. 2213 01:35:29.900 --> 01:35:31.053 Miss Perez-Diaz. 2214 01:35:33.880 --> 01:35:35.247 Yes, Miss Cargill. 2215 01:35:35.247 --> 01:35:36.700 I haven't read the motion. 2216 01:35:36.700 --> 01:35:38.352 I thought you had. 2217 01:35:38.352 --> 01:35:40.125 I asked Kay if you did and she thought you did. 2218 01:35:40.125 --> 01:35:41.424 Okay, in that case, 2219 01:35:41.424 --> 01:35:43.485 let's put the motion forward. 2220 01:35:43.485 --> 01:35:45.152 All right. 2221 01:35:50.251 --> 01:35:53.540 The motion was made by the business on page six. 2222 01:35:53.540 --> 01:35:55.759 Members of your committee. 2223 01:35:55.759 --> 01:35:56.592 It was. 2224 01:35:58.342 --> 01:35:59.403 Sorry. 2225 01:35:59.403 --> 01:36:02.370 On page six of the minutes that 2226 01:36:02.370 --> 01:36:05.401 was recommended by the Committee on School Initiatives 2227 01:36:05.401 --> 01:36:10.401 that the SBOE veto Houston Classical School-Houston 2228 01:36:10.610 --> 01:36:14.176 scheduled to open in the '20-'21 school year. 2229 01:36:14.176 --> 01:36:16.547 You can look on page three. 2230 01:36:16.547 --> 01:36:18.823 I mean, page six to see that three members voted yes 2231 01:36:18.823 --> 01:36:20.583 and two voted no. 2232 01:36:24.829 --> 01:36:26.410 Okay, go proceed to the vote, right? 2233 01:36:26.410 --> 01:36:27.894 As if the previous question. 2234 01:36:27.894 --> 01:36:32.130 Okay, all right, so, then roll call vote, please. 2235 01:36:32.130 --> 01:36:35.070 A yes means you're in favor of a veto. 2236 01:36:35.070 --> 01:36:38.093 No means that you're not in favor of a veto. 2237 01:36:40.420 --> 01:36:42.440 So, I think, technically, I should start again. 2238 01:36:42.440 --> 01:36:43.500 So, Miss Perez. 2239 01:36:43.500 --> 01:36:44.800 Yes. 2240 01:36:44.800 --> 01:36:46.070 Mister Cortez. 2241 01:36:46.070 --> 01:36:47.915 Miss Perez-Diaz. 2242 01:36:47.915 --> 01:36:48.748 Yes. 2243 01:36:48.748 --> 01:36:49.581 Mister Allen. 2244 01:36:49.581 --> 01:36:50.930 No. 2245 01:36:50.930 --> 01:36:51.850 Mister Mercer. 2246 01:36:51.850 --> 01:36:53.020 Mrs. Bahorich. 2247 01:36:53.020 --> 01:36:54.536 Doctor Robinson. 2248 01:36:54.536 --> 01:36:56.080 Yes. 2249 01:36:56.080 --> 01:36:57.060 Mrs. Cargill. 2250 01:36:57.060 --> 01:36:57.910 Yeah. 2251 01:36:58.840 --> 01:36:59.673 Doctor Ellis. 2252 01:36:59.673 --> 01:37:00.890 No. 2253 01:37:00.890 --> 01:37:01.890 Mister Maynard. 2254 01:37:01.890 --> 01:37:03.076 Nay. 2255 01:37:03.076 --> 01:37:04.570 Miss Hardy. 2256 01:37:04.570 --> 01:37:05.970 No. 2257 01:37:05.970 --> 01:37:06.970 Miss Little. 2258 01:37:08.880 --> 01:37:09.713 Miss Davis. 2259 01:37:09.713 --> 01:37:11.200 Yes. 2260 01:37:11.200 --> 01:37:12.430 Mrs. Melton-Malone. 2261 01:37:12.430 --> 01:37:13.346 No. 2262 01:37:13.346 --> 01:37:14.740 Mister Rowley. 2263 01:37:14.740 --> 01:37:15.573 No. 2264 01:37:16.930 --> 01:37:19.787 Okay, so, the motion fails. 2265 01:37:19.787 --> 01:37:23.385 Three to seven. 2266 01:37:23.385 --> 01:37:24.833 Four to seven. 2267 01:37:25.830 --> 01:37:26.900 I keep missing that. 2268 01:37:26.900 --> 01:37:28.640 Okay, four to seven. 2269 01:37:28.640 --> 01:37:29.473 Motion fails. 2270 01:37:29.473 --> 01:37:30.306 Chairman. 2271 01:37:30.306 --> 01:37:31.330 Yes, Doctor Ellis. 2272 01:37:31.330 --> 01:37:33.413 I'd like to make a motion that 2273 01:37:33.413 --> 01:37:37.580 we take no action on Houston Classical 2274 01:37:37.580 --> 01:37:41.480 for the 2020-2021 school year. 2275 01:37:41.480 --> 01:37:43.500 Is there a second? Okay, motion's been made and seconded 2276 01:37:43.500 --> 01:37:45.400 that we take no action. 2277 01:37:45.400 --> 01:37:46.653 Any discussion? 2278 01:37:48.250 --> 01:37:49.150 Ready for a vote? 2279 01:37:49.150 --> 01:37:50.650 Just explain the vote. 2280 01:37:51.580 --> 01:37:53.100 In this, it's the other way around. 2281 01:37:53.100 --> 01:37:58.100 If you are in favor of the charter going forward, 2282 01:37:58.540 --> 01:38:01.100 you vote yes on this one. 2283 01:38:01.100 --> 01:38:04.970 If you are opposed to the charter being awarded, 2284 01:38:04.970 --> 01:38:06.023 then you vote no. 2285 01:38:06.860 --> 01:38:07.930 Roll call vote. 2286 01:38:07.930 --> 01:38:09.010 Miss Perez. 2287 01:38:09.010 --> 01:38:10.250 No. 2288 01:38:10.250 --> 01:38:11.580 Mister Cortez. 2289 01:38:11.580 --> 01:38:13.194 Miss Perez-Diaz. 2290 01:38:13.194 --> 01:38:14.027 No. 2291 01:38:14.027 --> 01:38:14.940 Mister Allen. 2292 01:38:14.940 --> 01:38:16.200 Yes. 2293 01:38:16.200 --> 01:38:17.300 Mister Mercer. 2294 01:38:18.294 --> 01:38:19.670 Miss Bahorich. 2295 01:38:19.670 --> 01:38:21.180 Doctor Robinson. 2296 01:38:21.180 --> 01:38:22.640 No. 2297 01:38:22.640 --> 01:38:23.473 Miss Cargill. 2298 01:38:23.473 --> 01:38:24.620 Yes. 2299 01:38:24.620 --> 01:38:25.540 Doctor Ellis. 2300 01:38:25.540 --> 01:38:26.530 Yes. 2301 01:38:26.530 --> 01:38:27.422 Mister Maynard. 2302 01:38:27.422 --> 01:38:28.820 Aye. 2303 01:38:28.820 --> 01:38:29.690 Miss Hardy. 2304 01:38:29.690 --> 01:38:30.905 Yes. 2305 01:38:30.905 --> 01:38:32.430 Miss Little. 2306 01:38:32.430 --> 01:38:33.658 Miss Davis. 2307 01:38:33.658 --> 01:38:34.970 No. 2308 01:38:34.970 --> 01:38:36.130 Mrs. Melton-Malone. 2309 01:38:36.130 --> 01:38:37.460 Yes. 2310 01:38:37.460 --> 01:38:38.750 And Mister Rowley. 2311 01:38:38.750 --> 01:38:39.583 Yes. 2312 01:38:40.770 --> 01:38:43.193 Okay, so, that motion carried. 2313 01:38:45.512 --> 01:38:48.403 (applause) 2314 01:38:48.403 --> 01:38:49.903 What was the vote? 2315 01:38:53.236 --> 01:38:54.725 Seven to four. 2316 01:38:54.725 --> 01:38:55.558 Seven to four. 2317 01:38:55.558 --> 01:38:56.391 Seven in favor. 2318 01:38:56.391 --> 01:38:57.224 Four against. 2319 01:38:57.224 --> 01:38:58.057 So, that motion carries. 2320 01:38:58.057 --> 01:39:01.983 Okay, members, I think that takes care of that agenda item. 2321 01:39:02.940 --> 01:39:05.360 So, oh, there are other items 2322 01:39:05.360 --> 01:39:07.183 on the Committee for Initiatives. 2323 01:39:08.460 --> 01:39:10.350 Can we thank staff for a job well done? 2324 01:39:10.350 --> 01:39:12.567 Thank you, Heather and team. 2325 01:39:12.567 --> 01:39:13.400 Did awesome. 2326 01:39:13.400 --> 01:39:15.860 (applause) 2327 01:39:15.860 --> 01:39:17.951 I wanna say thank you to board members. 2328 01:39:17.951 --> 01:39:21.636 I know this has been a rigorous, very rigorous process 2329 01:39:21.636 --> 01:39:24.420 for our applicants, as well as you. 2330 01:39:24.420 --> 01:39:26.390 I appreciate your discernment, as well. 2331 01:39:26.390 --> 01:39:28.090 Thank you for recognizing my staff. 2332 01:39:28.090 --> 01:39:28.923 I appreciate that. 2333 01:39:28.923 --> 01:39:29.756 Absolutely. 2334 01:39:30.940 --> 01:39:33.780 Okay, members, we're on page two of the minutes 2335 01:39:33.780 --> 01:39:35.987 for the Committee on School Initiatives. 2336 01:39:35.987 --> 01:39:38.720 Agenda item number four. 2337 01:39:38.720 --> 01:39:42.270 Review of proposed new TAC chapter 235, 2338 01:39:42.270 --> 01:39:45.960 classroom teacher certification standards, subchapter F, 2339 01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:48.823 supplemental certificate standards. 2340 01:39:50.150 --> 01:39:53.280 And it was recommended unanimously 2341 01:39:53.280 --> 01:39:55.610 to recommend that the State Board of Education 2342 01:39:55.610 --> 01:39:57.600 take no action on the proposed amendment 2343 01:39:57.600 --> 01:40:00.470 to 19TAC chapter 235, 2344 01:40:00.470 --> 01:40:02.900 classroom teacher certification standards, 2345 01:40:02.900 --> 01:40:05.970 subchapter F, supplemental certification standards. 2346 01:40:05.970 --> 01:40:10.470 Okay, any discussion on that agenda item? 2347 01:40:11.650 --> 01:40:13.420 Are we ready for a vote? 2348 01:40:13.420 --> 01:40:16.000 All in favor signify by saying aye. 2349 01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:17.001 Aye. 2350 01:40:17.001 --> 01:40:18.411 All opposed, no. 2351 01:40:18.411 --> 01:40:19.244 Nay. 2352 01:40:19.244 --> 01:40:20.093 Motion carries. 2353 01:40:20.093 --> 01:40:20.926 Agenda item five. 2354 01:40:20.926 --> 01:40:23.900 The motion is found on the top of page three. 2355 01:40:23.900 --> 01:40:26.417 It was carried unanimously to recommend that 2356 01:40:26.417 --> 01:40:30.260 the state Board of Education take no action 2357 01:40:30.260 --> 01:40:34.250 on the proposed amendments to 19TAC chapter 241, 2358 01:40:34.250 --> 01:40:36.780 certification as principal, subchapter B, 2359 01:40:36.780 --> 01:40:41.563 principal certificate, section 241.41, general provisions. 2360 01:40:44.240 --> 01:40:46.473 Any discussion on that item? 2361 01:40:47.380 --> 01:40:48.920 Ready for a vote? 2362 01:40:48.920 --> 01:40:51.080 All in favor, signify by saying aye. 2363 01:40:51.080 --> 01:40:51.913 Aye. 2364 01:40:51.913 --> 01:40:53.244 All opposed, no. 2365 01:40:53.244 --> 01:40:54.077 Nay. 2366 01:40:54.077 --> 01:40:54.910 Motion carries. 2367 01:40:54.910 --> 01:40:59.320 The last one is agenda item six found on page three. 2368 01:41:01.950 --> 01:41:06.270 It was moved and seconded to recommend that 2369 01:41:06.270 --> 01:41:09.230 the State Board of Education approve for first reading 2370 01:41:09.230 --> 01:41:11.510 a filing authorization the proposed amendment 2371 01:41:12.484 --> 01:41:15.330 to 19TAC chapter 157, hearings and appeals, 2372 01:41:15.330 --> 01:41:17.713 subchapter D, independent hearing examiners, 2373 01:41:19.020 --> 01:41:23.240 section 157.41, certification criteria 2374 01:41:23.240 --> 01:41:26.120 for independent hearing examiners. 2375 01:41:26.120 --> 01:41:27.823 Any discussion on that item? 2376 01:41:29.450 --> 01:41:30.590 Ready for a vote? 2377 01:41:30.590 --> 01:41:32.965 All in favor, signify by saying aye. 2378 01:41:32.965 --> 01:41:33.798 Aye. 2379 01:41:33.798 --> 01:41:34.925 All opposed, no. 2380 01:41:34.925 --> 01:41:36.670 Motion carries. 2381 01:41:36.670 --> 01:41:37.503 I'm done. 2382 01:41:37.503 --> 01:41:38.649 Thank you. 2383 01:41:38.649 --> 01:41:40.040 Thank you, Miss Cargill. 2384 01:41:40.040 --> 01:41:44.010 Now I've asked Mister Maynard to take up 2385 01:41:44.010 --> 01:41:49.010 the Committee of the Full Board minutes and those items. 2386 01:41:49.760 --> 01:41:52.050 Do we do the item that was taken off consent 2387 01:41:52.050 --> 01:41:53.712 first or last or does it matter? 2388 01:41:53.712 --> 01:41:55.370 I don't think it matters. 2389 01:41:55.370 --> 01:41:58.860 Except that Mister Cortez has to have it removed and solved 2390 01:41:58.860 --> 01:42:00.427 for him to be in the room. 2391 01:42:00.427 --> 01:42:01.897 He's gone. 2392 01:42:01.897 --> 01:42:04.230 In that case, do it. 2393 01:42:06.282 --> 01:42:07.563 I'd like to call the vote. 2394 01:42:07.563 --> 01:42:09.330 (laughter) 2395 01:42:09.330 --> 01:42:12.610 Well, I'll tell you what, Sue, let's. 2396 01:42:13.837 --> 01:42:15.910 Let him know I tried hard to get the room to do it. 2397 01:42:15.910 --> 01:42:17.180 Well, let's just take them in order. 2398 01:42:17.180 --> 01:42:20.218 We'll take the consent item last and go from there. 2399 01:42:20.218 --> 01:42:22.720 So, okay, Mister Maynard, please. 2400 01:42:22.720 --> 01:42:25.764 All right, mister chairman, if you take your minutes, 2401 01:42:25.764 --> 01:42:28.140 the first action item is proposed revisions 2402 01:42:28.140 --> 01:42:30.230 to 19TAC chapter 110, 2403 01:42:30.230 --> 01:42:31.970 TEKS central knowledge and skills 2404 01:42:31.970 --> 01:42:34.550 for English language arts and reading, 2405 01:42:34.550 --> 01:42:37.020 and 19TAC chapter 128, 2406 01:42:37.020 --> 01:42:39.300 TEKS central knowledge and skills 2407 01:42:39.300 --> 01:42:41.420 for Spanish language arts and reading 2408 01:42:41.420 --> 01:42:42.950 and English as a second language. 2409 01:42:42.950 --> 01:42:44.620 Second reading, final adoption. 2410 01:42:44.620 --> 01:42:47.243 Members, the motion is found on page two. 2411 01:42:48.959 --> 01:42:51.230 And, therefore, on behalf of 2412 01:42:51.230 --> 01:42:53.117 the Committee of the Full Board, 2413 01:42:53.117 --> 01:42:56.770 I move that the State Board of Education 2414 01:42:56.770 --> 01:42:58.310 approve for second reading and the final adoption 2415 01:42:58.310 --> 01:43:01.710 of proposed revisions to 19TAC chapter 110, 2416 01:43:01.710 --> 01:43:03.980 TEKS essential knowledge and skills 2417 01:43:03.980 --> 01:43:05.910 for English language arts and reading, 2418 01:43:05.910 --> 01:43:10.846 and 19TAC chapter 128, TEKS essential knowledge and skills 2419 01:43:10.846 --> 01:43:13.520 for Spanish language arts and reading 2420 01:43:13.520 --> 01:43:15.950 and English as a second language. 2421 01:43:15.950 --> 01:43:17.720 And to make an affirmed finding that 2422 01:43:17.720 --> 01:43:20.070 immediate adoption of the proposed revisions 2423 01:43:20.070 --> 01:43:22.553 to 19TAC chapter 110, 2424 01:43:22.553 --> 01:43:24.300 TEKS essential knowledge and skills for 2425 01:43:24.300 --> 01:43:26.240 English language arts and reading, 2426 01:43:26.240 --> 01:43:29.320 and 19TAC chapter 128, 2427 01:43:29.320 --> 01:43:31.130 TEKS essential knowledge and skills 2428 01:43:31.130 --> 01:43:32.477 for Spanish language arts and reading 2429 01:43:32.477 --> 01:43:34.370 and English as a second language, 2430 01:43:34.370 --> 01:43:36.646 is necessary and shall have an effective date 2431 01:43:36.646 --> 01:43:38.970 of 20 days after found as adopted 2432 01:43:38.970 --> 01:43:40.710 by the Texas Register. 2433 01:43:40.710 --> 01:43:43.320 And, mister chairman, this requires a 2/3 vote 2434 01:43:43.320 --> 01:43:45.170 of the members present and voting. 2435 01:43:45.170 --> 01:43:47.500 Okay, thank you, Mister Maynard. 2436 01:43:47.500 --> 01:43:50.030 Miss Ramos, is this the one that we need to add? 2437 01:43:50.030 --> 01:43:51.970 It's not. 2438 01:43:51.970 --> 01:43:52.880 So, we're good. 2439 01:43:52.880 --> 01:43:55.853 Okay, so, any discussion about this item? 2440 01:43:57.080 --> 01:43:58.170 We ready for a vote? 2441 01:43:58.170 --> 01:44:01.660 All in favor, signify by. 2442 01:44:01.660 --> 01:44:05.393 Is this the part where we make that clarification? 2443 01:44:05.393 --> 01:44:06.433 That's what I was asking. 2444 01:44:06.433 --> 01:44:07.648 I'm sorry. 2445 01:44:07.648 --> 01:44:09.360 So, we do need, we believe, for you to make 2446 01:44:09.360 --> 01:44:11.866 some adjustments to the CCRS alignment document. 2447 01:44:11.866 --> 01:44:15.200 It is my understanding that you don't intend 2448 01:44:15.200 --> 01:44:16.600 to make any other amendments 2449 01:44:17.665 --> 01:44:18.869 based on feedback that you've received. 2450 01:44:18.869 --> 01:44:20.032 Okay, but this is an agenda item 2451 01:44:20.032 --> 01:44:22.687 where we needed to talk about the CCRS crosswalk? 2452 01:44:22.687 --> 01:44:23.997 No, this is not the item. 2453 01:44:23.997 --> 01:44:25.921 You're just raising that for our future. 2454 01:44:25.921 --> 01:44:26.800 She was. 2455 01:44:26.800 --> 01:44:28.960 Some of you received some comments last night. 2456 01:44:28.960 --> 01:44:31.820 And she was just asking if there were any intentions 2457 01:44:31.820 --> 01:44:33.940 to make any additional amendments. 2458 01:44:33.940 --> 01:44:35.260 Gotcha, okay, all right. 2459 01:44:35.260 --> 01:44:38.339 So, we're voting on this motion as stated, then. 2460 01:44:38.339 --> 01:44:39.730 We ready for a vote? 2461 01:44:39.730 --> 01:44:42.130 All in favor, signify by raising your left hand. 2462 01:44:46.930 --> 01:44:47.913 All opposed? 2463 01:44:48.980 --> 01:44:50.410 Motion carries. 2464 01:44:50.410 --> 01:44:53.223 Okay, Mister Maynard, if you'll continue. 2465 01:44:53.223 --> 01:44:55.248 A moment to just. 2466 01:44:55.248 --> 01:44:58.869 There's nothing else that I would need to. 2467 01:44:58.869 --> 01:45:00.093 There's not another motion there we need to. 2468 01:45:00.093 --> 01:45:01.590 There's several motions there. 2469 01:45:01.590 --> 01:45:03.414 But I think we're done with that. 2470 01:45:03.414 --> 01:45:07.870 I'm assuming that you did not want to 2471 01:45:07.870 --> 01:45:10.760 make any changes to what you did on Wednesday. 2472 01:45:10.760 --> 01:45:12.177 Just making sure. 2473 01:45:12.177 --> 01:45:13.956 Monica, just keep us straight, okay? 2474 01:45:13.956 --> 01:45:17.770 I'm not sure that I can, at this point. 2475 01:45:17.770 --> 01:45:19.360 All right, item three. 2476 01:45:19.360 --> 01:45:24.100 Proposed repeal and new 19TAC chapter 126. 2477 01:45:24.100 --> 01:45:25.830 And that's item number three. 2478 01:45:25.830 --> 01:45:30.830 So, mister chair, I move that the State Board of Education 2479 01:45:32.310 --> 01:45:34.350 approve for second reading and final adoption 2480 01:45:34.350 --> 01:45:39.350 proposed repeal and new 19TAC chapter 126, 2481 01:45:39.833 --> 01:45:41.393 TEKS essential knowledge and skills 2482 01:45:41.393 --> 01:45:43.530 for technology applications, 2483 01:45:43.530 --> 01:45:46.805 subchapter C, high school, 126.36, 2484 01:45:46.805 --> 01:45:49.410 digital forensic for one credit 2485 01:45:49.410 --> 01:45:52.160 beginning with school year 2019 and '20. 2486 01:45:52.160 --> 01:45:54.573 And making an affirmative finding that 2487 01:45:55.630 --> 01:45:57.702 immediate option of the proposed appeal 2488 01:45:57.702 --> 01:46:01.193 and new 19TAC chapter 126, 2489 01:46:01.193 --> 01:46:03.260 TEKS essential knowledge and skills 2490 01:46:03.260 --> 01:46:06.300 for technology applications, subchapter C, high school, 2491 01:46:06.300 --> 01:46:10.130 126.36, digital forensics for one credit 2492 01:46:10.130 --> 01:46:13.073 beginning with school year 2019 and 2020, 2493 01:46:14.420 --> 01:46:16.820 is necessary and shall have an effective date 2494 01:46:16.820 --> 01:46:20.270 of August 1, 2019. 2495 01:46:20.270 --> 01:46:22.366 2/3 vote required on this. 2496 01:46:22.366 --> 01:46:24.633 Any further discussion? 2497 01:46:25.770 --> 01:46:26.773 Ready for a vote? 2498 01:46:27.690 --> 01:46:28.980 Oh, you're ready to vote. 2499 01:46:28.980 --> 01:46:31.990 Okay, all right, all in favor. It does take a 2/3 vote. 2500 01:46:31.990 --> 01:46:34.273 All in favor, raise the hand of your choice. 2501 01:46:36.652 --> 01:46:37.875 Do we have a quorum? 2502 01:46:37.875 --> 01:46:39.147 Yes, we do. 2503 01:46:40.231 --> 01:46:42.470 Counting the votes, I imagine. 2504 01:46:42.470 --> 01:46:43.710 We good? 2505 01:46:43.710 --> 01:46:45.060 Okay, there was a 2/3 vote. 2506 01:46:46.587 --> 01:46:48.370 In fact, it was unanimous members voting. 2507 01:46:48.370 --> 01:46:50.567 And that passes. 2508 01:46:50.567 --> 01:46:53.170 Okay, Mister Maynard. 2509 01:46:53.170 --> 01:46:54.520 Okay, we're on page four. 2510 01:46:56.550 --> 01:47:00.370 Next, we're gonna go to the proposed amendments 2511 01:47:00.370 --> 01:47:03.260 to 19TAC chapter 74. 2512 01:47:03.260 --> 01:47:04.093 Still on page four. 2513 01:47:04.093 --> 01:47:05.850 Item number four. 2514 01:47:05.850 --> 01:47:08.940 Mister chair, I move that the State Board of Education 2515 01:47:08.940 --> 01:47:10.780 approve for second reading and final adoption 2516 01:47:10.780 --> 01:47:14.460 proposed amendments to 19TAC chapter 74, 2517 01:47:14.460 --> 01:47:16.680 curriculum requirements, subchapter B, 2518 01:47:16.680 --> 01:47:17.870 graduation requirements, 2519 01:47:17.870 --> 01:47:21.290 74.12, foundation high school program, 2520 01:47:21.290 --> 01:47:23.960 and 74.13, endorsements, 2521 01:47:23.960 --> 01:47:25.690 and make an affirmative finding that 2522 01:47:25.690 --> 01:47:28.580 immediate adoption of the proposed amendments 2523 01:47:28.580 --> 01:47:32.230 to 19TAC chapter 74, curriculum requirements, 2524 01:47:32.230 --> 01:47:34.510 subchapter B, graduation requirements, 2525 01:47:34.510 --> 01:47:38.020 74.12, foundation high school program, 2526 01:47:38.020 --> 01:47:41.170 and 74.13, endorsements, is necessary 2527 01:47:41.170 --> 01:47:44.150 and shall have an effective date of August 1, 2019. 2528 01:47:47.250 --> 01:47:48.333 Any discussion? 2529 01:47:49.300 --> 01:47:50.540 Ready for the vote? 2530 01:47:50.540 --> 01:47:53.203 All in favor, signify by raising your right hand. 2531 01:47:55.930 --> 01:47:57.393 All opposed, same sign. 2532 01:47:58.840 --> 01:48:00.903 Unanimous, 2/3 vote passes. 2533 01:48:03.720 --> 01:48:04.881 All right, mister chair, 2534 01:48:04.881 --> 01:48:09.881 the next item is related to proclamation 2021. 2535 01:48:13.480 --> 01:48:17.170 On behalf of the Committee of the Full Board, 2536 01:48:17.170 --> 01:48:18.660 move that the State Board of Education 2537 01:48:18.660 --> 01:48:21.150 approve proclamation 2021 2538 01:48:21.150 --> 01:48:22.290 of the State Board of Education 2539 01:48:22.290 --> 01:48:25.263 advertising bids for instructional materials as amended. 2540 01:48:27.900 --> 01:48:30.810 Okay, and just for purposes that 2541 01:48:30.810 --> 01:48:32.678 are listing on our posted agenda, 2542 01:48:32.678 --> 01:48:37.180 proclamation 2020, no action was taken on that item. 2543 01:48:37.180 --> 01:48:40.980 So, we're now talking about proclamation 2021. 2544 01:48:40.980 --> 01:48:42.440 Motion's been made. 2545 01:48:42.440 --> 01:48:44.100 Recommendations have been made. 2546 01:48:44.100 --> 01:48:45.333 Any discussion? 2547 01:48:46.740 --> 01:48:49.363 All in favor, signify by saying aye. 2548 01:48:49.363 --> 01:48:50.196 Aye. 2549 01:48:50.196 --> 01:48:51.694 All opposed? 2550 01:48:51.694 --> 01:48:53.667 Motion carries. 2551 01:48:53.667 --> 01:48:56.100 And then I guess we can take up the consent item, 2552 01:48:56.100 --> 01:48:58.527 which is number seven right there below that, then. 2553 01:48:58.527 --> 01:49:00.730 So, mister chair, I'm going to. 2554 01:49:01.930 --> 01:49:03.440 I'm going to move the original motion that 2555 01:49:03.440 --> 01:49:04.680 this is coming out of committee. 2556 01:49:04.680 --> 01:49:06.950 And then it will be the pleasure of the board 2557 01:49:06.950 --> 01:49:10.430 to amend as they see fit. 2558 01:49:10.430 --> 01:49:11.944 So, mister chair, I move. 2559 01:49:11.944 --> 01:49:16.170 On behalf of the Committee of the Full Board, 2560 01:49:16.170 --> 01:49:17.650 I move that the State Board of Education 2561 01:49:17.650 --> 01:49:21.593 submit the names of David Corpus and Ysrael Valencia 2562 01:49:23.330 --> 01:49:24.830 to the governor for consideration 2563 01:49:24.830 --> 01:49:26.470 for appointment to the board of trustees 2564 01:49:26.470 --> 01:49:28.900 of the Teacher Retirement System of Texas 2565 01:49:28.900 --> 01:49:32.880 for a term expiring August 31 of 2025. 2566 01:49:32.880 --> 01:49:34.680 I think, Mister Maynard, 2567 01:49:34.680 --> 01:49:36.680 Miss Ingraham, Nella Ingraham, was also. 2568 01:49:37.534 --> 01:49:40.180 I see what the original. 2569 01:49:40.180 --> 01:49:41.260 I'm seeing here now. 2570 01:49:41.260 --> 01:49:44.550 So, if I can go ahead and make that correction. 2571 01:49:44.550 --> 01:49:48.793 Also, then, to add, behind Mister Valencia, 2572 01:49:50.460 --> 01:49:53.180 the name of Nellie Ingraham. 2573 01:49:53.180 --> 01:49:55.190 If I could make that correction to the motion, please. 2574 01:49:55.190 --> 01:49:56.173 Thank you for that. 2575 01:49:57.170 --> 01:50:00.473 Okay, any discussion on this item? 2576 01:50:02.170 --> 01:50:04.031 Yes, Miss Perez-Diaz. 2577 01:50:04.031 --> 01:50:04.864 I'd like to make. 2578 01:50:04.864 --> 01:50:07.140 I'd like to make an amendment to the motion. 2579 01:50:07.140 --> 01:50:08.918 Is this the appropriate time to do that? 2580 01:50:08.918 --> 01:50:09.751 Yes. 2581 01:50:09.751 --> 01:50:11.950 Okay, I'd like to amend the motion 2582 01:50:11.950 --> 01:50:16.767 to add back in Miss Christine Ardis. 2583 01:50:16.767 --> 01:50:21.767 Without going back into the minutes, or the agenda, 2584 01:50:22.120 --> 01:50:24.007 how do you spell that? 2585 01:50:24.007 --> 01:50:24.840 Tell us that again. 2586 01:50:24.840 --> 01:50:28.060 Christine, C-h-r-i-s-t-i-n-e. 2587 01:50:28.060 --> 01:50:30.200 Last name is Ardis. 2588 01:50:30.200 --> 01:50:32.150 A-r-d-i-s. 2589 01:50:32.150 --> 01:50:33.050 A-r-d-i-s. 2590 01:50:33.050 --> 01:50:33.950 Okay. 2591 01:50:33.950 --> 01:50:34.850 Is there a second? 2592 01:50:37.650 --> 01:50:39.049 Calling. 2593 01:50:39.049 --> 01:50:39.882 Okay, so, there's a second. 2594 01:50:39.882 --> 01:50:41.190 Motion's been made and seconded 2595 01:50:41.190 --> 01:50:45.553 to amend the recommendation to add Christine Ardis. 2596 01:50:46.650 --> 01:50:48.290 Any discussion? 2597 01:50:48.290 --> 01:50:49.440 Mister Chair. 2598 01:50:51.700 --> 01:50:53.250 Miss Hardy first and then Doctor Ellis. 2599 01:50:53.250 --> 01:50:55.810 I thought the reason that we went with 2600 01:50:55.810 --> 01:50:57.770 the names that we did was that 2601 01:50:57.770 --> 01:51:01.200 the names that we put forth had education 2602 01:51:01.200 --> 01:51:05.797 and financial expertise. 2603 01:51:07.830 --> 01:51:10.880 And that was why we selected the ones that we did. 2604 01:51:10.880 --> 01:51:11.773 Is that correct? 2605 01:51:12.730 --> 01:51:14.114 That's my recollection. 2606 01:51:14.114 --> 01:51:15.240 Okay. 2607 01:51:15.240 --> 01:51:16.160 Doctor Ellis. 2608 01:51:16.160 --> 01:51:18.440 I'd actually say it wasn't because they had education. 2609 01:51:18.440 --> 01:51:20.960 There's actually separate seats on the board for educators. 2610 01:51:20.960 --> 01:51:22.950 These specific seats that we have 2611 01:51:22.950 --> 01:51:25.140 are for people with business, financial, 2612 01:51:25.140 --> 01:51:27.810 and, specifically, investment experience. 2613 01:51:27.810 --> 01:51:28.980 And I think that's why. 2614 01:51:28.980 --> 01:51:31.707 And, to the maker of the amendment. 2615 01:51:31.707 --> 01:51:34.820 I know that Mister Cortez was maybe the one that 2616 01:51:34.820 --> 01:51:35.690 was bringing this forward. 2617 01:51:35.690 --> 01:51:36.523 So, you may not know. 2618 01:51:36.523 --> 01:51:38.780 But can you outline specifically how you feel 2619 01:51:38.780 --> 01:51:40.030 they meet those criteria? 2620 01:51:42.500 --> 01:51:45.440 Yes, I feel as though this individual, 2621 01:51:45.440 --> 01:51:47.280 though they don't have, I guess, 2622 01:51:47.280 --> 01:51:48.550 the level that we were looking for 2623 01:51:48.550 --> 01:51:50.750 in terms of the investment background, 2624 01:51:50.750 --> 01:51:53.248 we also had another individual, Miss Nellie Ingraham, 2625 01:51:53.248 --> 01:51:56.971 who's an educator and who has some experience. 2626 01:51:56.971 --> 01:51:59.660 I would say we were looking to send a list 2627 01:51:59.660 --> 01:52:00.890 over to the governor's office. 2628 01:52:00.890 --> 01:52:03.200 And so, you know, ultimately, 2629 01:52:03.200 --> 01:52:04.520 the State Board of Education doesn't have 2630 01:52:04.520 --> 01:52:06.360 any authority over this decision. 2631 01:52:06.360 --> 01:52:07.193 I'd just like to make sure that 2632 01:52:07.193 --> 01:52:10.270 we're being inclusive of the different individuals 2633 01:52:10.270 --> 01:52:11.670 that were being recommended. 2634 01:52:14.677 --> 01:52:17.053 Any further discussion? 2635 01:52:18.650 --> 01:52:19.613 Ready for a vote? 2636 01:52:21.118 --> 01:52:24.230 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10. 2637 01:52:24.230 --> 01:52:25.431 Okay, we've got 10. 2638 01:52:25.431 --> 01:52:26.590 Vote on the amendment. 2639 01:52:26.590 --> 01:52:27.750 I was counting how many we have. 2640 01:52:27.750 --> 01:52:29.381 11, 12. 2641 01:52:29.381 --> 01:52:31.530 Okay, the motion before the floor 2642 01:52:31.530 --> 01:52:36.410 is an amendment to add Christine Ardis to the list. 2643 01:52:36.410 --> 01:52:39.980 Or Ardis to the list of recommended seats 2644 01:52:41.480 --> 01:52:42.480 for the Teacher Retirement. 2645 01:52:42.480 --> 01:52:44.060 We vote yes if we want to add her in? 2646 01:52:44.060 --> 01:52:45.520 Yes, that's correct. 2647 01:52:45.520 --> 01:52:48.759 Okay, all in favor, signify by saying aye. 2648 01:52:48.759 --> 01:52:49.592 Aye. 2649 01:52:49.592 --> 01:52:50.765 All opposed, no. 2650 01:52:50.765 --> 01:52:51.870 No. 2651 01:52:51.870 --> 01:52:54.140 Okay, show of hands. 2652 01:52:54.140 --> 01:52:56.270 All in favor, signify by raising your hand. 2653 01:52:56.270 --> 01:52:57.833 Mister Rowley. 2654 01:52:57.833 --> 01:52:58.738 What? 2655 01:52:58.738 --> 01:52:59.930 Which hand would you like? 2656 01:52:59.930 --> 01:53:02.450 The hand of your choice. 2657 01:53:02.450 --> 01:53:05.433 All in favor, signify by raising the hand of your choice. 2658 01:53:07.360 --> 01:53:08.193 One, two. 2659 01:53:09.290 --> 01:53:11.880 Those were a very vocal two people. 2660 01:53:11.880 --> 01:53:13.230 Okay, two. 2661 01:53:13.230 --> 01:53:16.170 All opposed, signify by raising the hand of your choice. 2662 01:53:16.170 --> 01:53:20.340 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. 2663 01:53:20.340 --> 01:53:23.810 Okay, so, the motion fails. 2664 01:53:23.810 --> 01:53:25.050 It's not amended. 2665 01:53:25.050 --> 01:53:29.130 So, now currently before us is the recommendation 2666 01:53:29.130 --> 01:53:32.973 of David Corpus, Ysrael Valencia, Nellie Ingraham, 2667 01:53:34.320 --> 01:53:38.410 as recommended by the Committee of the Full Board. 2668 01:53:38.410 --> 01:53:39.713 Any further discussion? 2669 01:53:40.660 --> 01:53:41.570 Ready to vote. 2670 01:53:41.570 --> 01:53:43.850 All in favor signify by saying aye. 2671 01:53:43.850 --> 01:53:44.683 Aye. 2672 01:53:44.683 --> 01:53:45.516 All opposed, no. 2673 01:53:46.810 --> 01:53:47.643 Motion carries. 2674 01:53:47.643 --> 01:53:50.400 That takes care, I believe, 2675 01:53:50.400 --> 01:53:52.290 of the Committee of the Full Board. 2676 01:53:52.290 --> 01:53:54.100 Correct, Mister Maynard? 2677 01:53:54.100 --> 01:53:55.640 Okay, Committee on Instruction. 2678 01:53:55.640 --> 01:53:57.573 Miss Melton-Malone, please. 2679 01:53:58.910 --> 01:53:59.743 Yes, sir. 2680 01:53:59.743 --> 01:54:00.670 Thank you, mister chair. 2681 01:54:01.590 --> 01:54:03.060 If you'll get out your minutes 2682 01:54:03.060 --> 01:54:04.987 for the Committee on Instruction, 2683 01:54:04.987 --> 01:54:09.763 the first one is on page one. 2684 01:54:13.220 --> 01:54:15.200 On behalf of the Committee on Instruction, 2685 01:54:15.200 --> 01:54:17.100 I move that the State Board of Education 2686 01:54:17.100 --> 01:54:19.607 approve for second reading and final adoption 2687 01:54:19.607 --> 01:54:23.390 the proposed amendment to 19TAC chapter 74, 2688 01:54:23.390 --> 01:54:27.440 curriculum requirements, subchapter A, required curriculum, 2689 01:54:27.440 --> 01:54:30.870 74.6, college and career readiness 2690 01:54:30.870 --> 01:54:33.649 and TEKS essential knowledge and skills alignment, 2691 01:54:33.649 --> 01:54:36.570 and make an affirmative finding that 2692 01:54:36.570 --> 01:54:38.960 immediate adoption of the proposed amendment 2693 01:54:38.960 --> 01:54:43.180 to 19TAC chapter 74, curriculum requirements, 2694 01:54:43.180 --> 01:54:45.650 subchapter A, required curriculum, 2695 01:54:45.650 --> 01:54:48.898 74.6, college and career readiness 2696 01:54:48.898 --> 01:54:51.810 and TEKS essential knowledge and skills alignment, 2697 01:54:51.810 --> 01:54:54.750 is necessary and shall have an effective date 2698 01:54:54.750 --> 01:54:58.736 of 20 days after filing as adopted with the Texas Register. 2699 01:54:58.736 --> 01:55:00.544 Okay, thank you, Miss Melton-Malone. 2700 01:55:00.544 --> 01:55:01.510 I'm sorry. 2701 01:55:01.510 --> 01:55:04.960 Can we have 60 seconds to get organized for this item? 2702 01:55:04.960 --> 01:55:05.793 Certainly. 2703 01:55:05.793 --> 01:55:06.790 Thank you. 2704 01:55:06.790 --> 01:55:09.510 And, while that's being done, 2705 01:55:09.510 --> 01:55:10.710 those of you who have signed up 2706 01:55:10.710 --> 01:55:13.190 for the open testimony, 2707 01:55:13.190 --> 01:55:15.858 I apologize for all the time that we've taken. 2708 01:55:15.858 --> 01:55:17.390 But we will get to you here. 2709 01:55:17.390 --> 01:55:19.520 It won't be but just a few minutes. 2710 01:55:19.520 --> 01:55:21.995 And we'll have you. 2711 01:55:21.995 --> 01:55:23.930 I don't think we've got enough time to insert you right now. 2712 01:55:23.930 --> 01:55:26.730 So, it'll just be a few minutes. 2713 01:55:29.555 --> 01:55:32.805 Okay, I thought there was someone else. 2714 01:56:28.820 --> 01:56:31.530 Mister chair, while we're in this little thing. 2715 01:56:31.530 --> 01:56:32.363 Yes. 2716 01:56:32.363 --> 01:56:34.000 The lady that. 2717 01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:36.810 We have this information on Lyme disease on our desk. 2718 01:56:36.810 --> 01:56:39.753 And the lady that was going to speak, 2719 01:56:39.753 --> 01:56:41.200 because she lost he daughter to Lyme disease, 2720 01:56:41.200 --> 01:56:42.490 she had to leave. 2721 01:56:42.490 --> 01:56:44.780 So, I think it'd be courteous for us to read this. 2722 01:56:44.780 --> 01:56:48.080 And maybe make sure the health committee's take a look. 2723 01:56:48.080 --> 01:56:48.913 Because. 2724 01:56:49.938 --> 01:56:50.862 It's very important to her. 2725 01:56:50.862 --> 01:56:53.035 I thought it was very sweet that she was here. 2726 01:56:53.035 --> 01:56:54.720 But she had to go. 2727 01:56:54.720 --> 01:56:57.230 Thank you for pointing that out. 2728 01:56:58.282 --> 01:57:00.137 Yes, Miss Hardy. 2729 01:57:00.137 --> 01:57:02.804 (sound cut out) 2730 01:57:08.990 --> 01:57:10.560 On the increase. 2731 01:57:10.560 --> 01:57:13.030 And it's one of those things that 2732 01:57:13.030 --> 01:57:15.327 very few people know about. 2733 01:57:15.327 --> 01:57:17.610 And, in her situation, 2734 01:57:17.610 --> 01:57:19.230 if the teacher had just known to 2735 01:57:19.230 --> 01:57:20.650 send the child to the nurse, 2736 01:57:20.650 --> 01:57:23.750 that would have been all the difference in the world. 2737 01:57:23.750 --> 01:57:26.040 But I would hope. 2738 01:57:26.040 --> 01:57:28.440 And I will be talking to people from my district 2739 01:57:28.440 --> 01:57:29.830 who are gonna be on the health committee, 2740 01:57:29.830 --> 01:57:32.280 somehow or another, to get that in, too. 2741 01:57:32.280 --> 01:57:34.490 So that people can be aware. 2742 01:57:34.490 --> 01:57:37.000 And, also, I've been trying to encourage her 2743 01:57:37.000 --> 01:57:40.240 to get in touch with Tasby, 2744 01:57:40.240 --> 01:57:43.960 because they do an intro at the beginning of school 2745 01:57:43.960 --> 01:57:45.520 to make people aware of things. 2746 01:57:45.520 --> 01:57:48.274 And I'm hoping that that'll fit into that, too. 2747 01:57:48.274 --> 01:57:49.107 Very important. 2748 01:57:49.107 --> 01:57:51.583 Okay, so, are we ready to proceed with this item? 2749 01:57:52.690 --> 01:57:54.356 Yes, sir, we are. Thank you very much. 2750 01:57:54.356 --> 01:57:56.230 Okay, so, are there any amendments? 2751 01:57:56.230 --> 01:57:58.000 Or we're taking it as is? 2752 01:57:58.000 --> 01:57:58.833 Miss Perez. 2753 01:58:00.410 --> 01:58:02.740 I move to amend the English language arts alignment chart 2754 01:58:02.740 --> 01:58:05.100 to reflect feedback from TCTELA and CREST 2755 01:58:05.100 --> 01:58:08.480 regarding CCRS standards 2D-2 and 2D-3. 2756 01:58:08.480 --> 01:58:10.810 Only student expectations and authorized staff 2757 01:58:10.810 --> 01:58:12.193 to make technical edits. 2758 01:58:13.044 --> 01:58:15.173 Okay, is there a second? 2759 01:58:15.173 --> 01:58:16.006 Second. 2760 01:58:16.006 --> 01:58:19.590 Okay, any discussion on that? 2761 01:58:19.590 --> 01:58:21.020 Maybe a brief explanation. 2762 01:58:21.020 --> 01:58:24.890 I think the idea was that there were CCRS standards 2763 01:58:24.890 --> 01:58:28.810 on the crosswalk alignment document that were blank. 2764 01:58:28.810 --> 01:58:32.090 But that there was feedback provided via email 2765 01:58:32.090 --> 01:58:34.450 from the testifiers that we had on Wednesday 2766 01:58:34.450 --> 01:58:37.290 to fill in the student expectations 2767 01:58:37.290 --> 01:58:40.560 that line up with the CCRS. 2768 01:58:40.560 --> 01:58:41.652 That's it. 2769 01:58:41.652 --> 01:58:42.523 That's exactly. 2770 01:58:42.523 --> 01:58:45.440 And that's what Miss Perez's motion entails. 2771 01:58:45.440 --> 01:58:46.990 Okay, any discussion? 2772 01:58:46.990 --> 01:58:49.767 Further conversation about that. 2773 01:58:49.767 --> 01:58:51.290 Okay, all in favor of that amendment, 2774 01:58:51.290 --> 01:58:52.813 signify by saying aye. 2775 01:58:52.813 --> 01:58:53.646 Aye. 2776 01:58:53.646 --> 01:58:54.693 All opposed, no. 2777 01:58:55.750 --> 01:58:57.130 Okay, let's see. 2778 01:58:57.130 --> 01:58:59.730 This is a 2/3 vote. 2779 01:58:59.730 --> 01:59:01.223 So, the motion before us then 2780 01:59:01.223 --> 01:59:04.231 was the one stated by Miss Melton-Malone. 2781 01:59:04.231 --> 01:59:06.587 Reiterate it. 2782 01:59:06.587 --> 01:59:10.780 Okay, any further discussion on it? 2783 01:59:10.780 --> 01:59:13.513 All in favor, signify by raising your hand. 2784 01:59:14.595 --> 01:59:15.428 Any hand. 2785 01:59:17.090 --> 01:59:20.820 All opposed, same sign. 2786 01:59:20.820 --> 01:59:23.320 Okay, motion unanimously passed. 2787 01:59:23.320 --> 01:59:24.500 So, there was a 2/3 vote. 2788 01:59:24.500 --> 01:59:25.830 Okay, Miss Melton-Malone. 2789 01:59:25.830 --> 01:59:27.910 Yes, so, page number two. 2790 01:59:27.910 --> 01:59:29.320 Item number two. 2791 01:59:29.320 --> 01:59:31.030 On behalf of the Committee on Instruction, 2792 01:59:31.030 --> 01:59:32.453 I move that the State Board of Education 2793 01:59:32.453 --> 01:59:34.812 approve for second reading and filing adoption 2794 01:59:34.812 --> 01:59:38.940 the proposed amendment to 19TAC chapter 74, 2795 01:59:38.940 --> 01:59:40.540 curriculum requirements, 2796 01:59:40.540 --> 01:59:43.000 subchapter B, graduation requirements, 2797 01:59:43.000 --> 01:59:46.610 74.11, high school graduation requirements, 2798 01:59:46.610 --> 01:59:49.170 and make an affirmative finding that 2799 01:59:49.170 --> 01:59:51.460 immediate adoption of the proposed amendment 2800 01:59:51.460 --> 01:59:55.750 to 19TAC chapter 74, curriculum requirements, 2801 01:59:55.750 --> 01:59:58.220 subchapter B, graduation requirements, 2802 01:59:58.220 --> 02:00:02.570 74.11, high school graduation requirements, 2803 02:00:02.570 --> 02:00:04.930 is necessary and shall have an effective date 2804 02:00:04.930 --> 02:00:07.253 of August 26, 2019. 2805 02:00:08.780 --> 02:00:10.713 Any further discussion on this item? 2806 02:00:12.580 --> 02:00:14.363 Hearing none, we'll proceed to a vote. 2807 02:00:14.363 --> 02:00:16.150 This takes a 2/3 vote. 2808 02:00:16.150 --> 02:00:17.370 So, all in favor of that, 2809 02:00:17.370 --> 02:00:20.981 signify by putting your head down on your desk. 2810 02:00:20.981 --> 02:00:21.843 No, I'm kidding. 2811 02:00:21.843 --> 02:00:22.970 (laughter) 2812 02:00:22.970 --> 02:00:24.550 Raise your right hand. 2813 02:00:26.330 --> 02:00:27.163 Actually, we can do that. 2814 02:00:27.163 --> 02:00:27.996 Can't we, Kay? 2815 02:00:27.996 --> 02:00:29.102 You can do any way you want. 2816 02:00:29.102 --> 02:00:31.327 I thought that's right. 2817 02:00:31.327 --> 02:00:33.790 Yeah, any sign you want. 2818 02:00:33.790 --> 02:00:36.190 As long as he tells you what it is. 2819 02:00:36.190 --> 02:00:37.023 And I did. 2820 02:00:37.023 --> 02:00:37.990 But the motion passed. 2821 02:00:37.990 --> 02:00:39.500 There was a unanimous. 2822 02:00:39.500 --> 02:00:40.333 Okay. 2823 02:00:43.030 --> 02:00:43.930 Could be anything. 2824 02:00:46.086 --> 02:00:48.063 All in favor, do this. 2825 02:00:49.200 --> 02:00:51.960 All right, so, Miss Melton-Malone. 2826 02:00:51.960 --> 02:00:53.250 The bottom of page two. 2827 02:00:53.250 --> 02:00:54.240 Item number three. 2828 02:00:54.240 --> 02:00:55.970 On behalf of the Committee on Instruction, 2829 02:00:55.970 --> 02:00:57.767 I move that the State Board of Education 2830 02:00:57.767 --> 02:01:00.640 approve for second reading and filing adoption 2831 02:01:00.640 --> 02:01:04.620 proposed revisions to 19TAC chapter 111, 2832 02:01:04.620 --> 02:01:07.070 TEKS essential knowledge and skills for mathematics, 2833 02:01:07.070 --> 02:01:10.690 subchapter D, other high school mathematics courses, 2834 02:01:10.690 --> 02:01:12.470 and make an affirmative finding that 2835 02:01:12.470 --> 02:01:16.070 immediate adoption of proposed revisions to 19TAC 2836 02:01:16.070 --> 02:01:18.790 chapter 111, TEKS essential knowledge 2837 02:01:18.790 --> 02:01:20.150 and skills for mathematics, 2838 02:01:20.150 --> 02:01:23.580 subchapter D, other high school mathematics courses, 2839 02:01:23.580 --> 02:01:26.810 is necessary and shall have an effective date 2840 02:01:26.810 --> 02:01:28.160 of August 1, 2019. 2841 02:01:30.534 --> 02:01:33.150 Okay, any discussion on this item? 2842 02:01:33.150 --> 02:01:34.400 Takes a 2/3 vote. 2843 02:01:34.400 --> 02:01:37.813 All in favor, signify by standing where you are. 2844 02:01:39.211 --> 02:01:41.461 (laughter) 2845 02:01:42.970 --> 02:01:46.630 Okay, all right, motion passes unanimously. 2846 02:01:46.630 --> 02:01:48.468 2/3 vote, very good. 2847 02:01:48.468 --> 02:01:49.853 Okay. 2848 02:01:49.853 --> 02:01:50.686 Member Rowley. 2849 02:01:50.686 --> 02:01:51.683 Yes. 2850 02:01:51.683 --> 02:01:52.730 Excuse me. 2851 02:01:52.730 --> 02:01:54.280 It's Acting Chairperson Rowley. 2852 02:01:55.451 --> 02:01:57.440 Okay, Miss Melton-Malone. 2853 02:01:57.440 --> 02:01:58.350 Please continue. 2854 02:01:58.350 --> 02:02:00.259 Page three, item number four. 2855 02:02:00.259 --> 02:02:02.920 On behalf of the Committee on Instruction, 2856 02:02:02.920 --> 02:02:04.313 I move that the State Board of Education 2857 02:02:04.313 --> 02:02:06.811 approve for second reading and filing adoption 2858 02:02:06.811 --> 02:02:09.710 the proposed amendment to 19TAC 2859 02:02:09.710 --> 02:02:12.660 chapter 114, TEKS essential knowledge 2860 02:02:12.660 --> 02:02:14.940 and skills for languages other than English, 2861 02:02:14.940 --> 02:02:16.867 subchapter C, high school, 2862 02:02:16.867 --> 02:02:20.560 114.53, advanced language for 2863 02:02:20.560 --> 02:02:22.560 career applications one credit, 2864 02:02:22.560 --> 02:02:25.050 and make an affirmative finding that 2865 02:02:25.050 --> 02:02:27.210 immediate adoption of the proposed amendment 2866 02:02:27.210 --> 02:02:29.780 to 19TAC chapter 114, 2867 02:02:29.780 --> 02:02:31.870 TEKS essential knowledge and skills 2868 02:02:31.870 --> 02:02:33.480 for languages other than English, 2869 02:02:33.480 --> 02:02:35.630 subchapter C, high school, 2870 02:02:35.630 --> 02:02:38.840 114.53, advanced language for 2871 02:02:38.840 --> 02:02:40.790 career applications one credit, 2872 02:02:40.790 --> 02:02:43.270 is necessary and shall have an effective date 2873 02:02:43.270 --> 02:02:45.990 of August 26, 2019. 2874 02:02:45.990 --> 02:02:48.577 Okay, any discussion on this item? 2875 02:02:48.577 --> 02:02:52.333 All in favor, signify by waving at the chair. 2876 02:02:55.540 --> 02:02:57.270 All opposed. 2877 02:02:57.270 --> 02:02:58.620 Motion carries by 2/3 vote. 2878 02:03:00.410 --> 02:03:01.460 Thank you, Miss Melton-Malone. 2879 02:03:01.460 --> 02:03:02.293 Is that all your items? 2880 02:03:02.293 --> 02:03:03.900 No, I'm not doe yet. 2881 02:03:06.100 --> 02:03:09.763 Page four, item number six. 2882 02:03:10.740 --> 02:03:12.740 On behalf of the Committee on Instruction, 2883 02:03:12.740 --> 02:03:14.620 I move that the State Board of Education 2884 02:03:14.620 --> 02:03:16.610 suspend the board operating procedures 2885 02:03:16.610 --> 02:03:21.160 in accordance with 5.2a to allow consideration 2886 02:03:21.160 --> 02:03:23.410 and a first reading and filing authorization 2887 02:03:23.410 --> 02:03:26.091 and approve for first reading and filing authorization 2888 02:03:26.091 --> 02:03:29.310 the proposed amendment to 19TAC 2889 02:03:29.310 --> 02:03:32.240 chapter 74, curriculum requirements, 2890 02:03:32.240 --> 02:03:34.370 subchapter C, other provisions, 2891 02:03:34.370 --> 02:03:39.370 74.28, students with dyslexia and related disorders. 2892 02:03:39.800 --> 02:03:41.540 So, it does take a 2/3 vote 2893 02:03:41.540 --> 02:03:44.660 to suspend our board operating procedures. 2894 02:03:44.660 --> 02:03:46.170 Do we vote on all of that at once? 2895 02:03:46.170 --> 02:03:47.840 The suspension and the motion? 2896 02:03:47.840 --> 02:03:50.280 Okay, any discussion on that? 2897 02:03:50.280 --> 02:03:53.230 All in favor, signify by raising your hand. 2898 02:03:53.230 --> 02:03:54.230 'Cause we're boring. 2899 02:03:55.110 --> 02:03:56.650 All opposed. 2900 02:03:56.650 --> 02:03:58.023 Motion passes. 2901 02:03:59.296 --> 02:04:00.850 All right, still on page four. 2902 02:04:00.850 --> 02:04:02.522 Item number seven. 2903 02:04:02.522 --> 02:04:04.920 On behalf of the Committee on Instruction, 2904 02:04:04.920 --> 02:04:06.543 I move that the State Board of Education 2905 02:04:06.543 --> 02:04:08.892 approve the following innovative courses 2906 02:04:08.892 --> 02:04:11.950 that do not fall within any of the subject areas 2907 02:04:11.950 --> 02:04:14.900 of the foundation or enrichment curriculum. 2908 02:04:14.900 --> 02:04:16.550 Community transportation, 2909 02:04:16.550 --> 02:04:19.270 to be approved for a period of two years, 2910 02:04:19.270 --> 02:04:20.560 and peer assistance for 2911 02:04:20.560 --> 02:04:23.240 students with disabilities one and two, 2912 02:04:23.240 --> 02:04:26.420 to be approved for a renewal period of three years. 2913 02:04:26.420 --> 02:04:29.293 Okay, any discussion on this item? 2914 02:04:30.680 --> 02:04:33.305 All in favor, signify by saying aye. 2915 02:04:33.305 --> 02:04:34.170 Aye. 2916 02:04:34.170 --> 02:04:35.865 All opposed. 2917 02:04:35.865 --> 02:04:36.883 Motion carries. 2918 02:04:37.999 --> 02:04:39.773 I got two more. 2919 02:04:40.979 --> 02:04:43.400 It starts on the bottom of page four. 2920 02:04:43.400 --> 02:04:44.620 It's item number eight. 2921 02:04:44.620 --> 02:04:46.577 On behalf of the Committee on Instruction, 2922 02:04:46.577 --> 02:04:49.180 I move that the State Board of Education 2923 02:04:49.180 --> 02:04:51.590 approve the request from ThinkCERCA 2924 02:04:51.590 --> 02:04:55.720 to update ThinkCERCA Texas Edition Grade Six, 2925 02:04:55.720 --> 02:04:58.830 ThinkCERCA Texas Edition Grade Seven, 2926 02:04:58.830 --> 02:05:02.830 and ThinkCERCA Teas Edition Grade Eight. 2927 02:05:02.830 --> 02:05:07.680 Adopted in November 2018 under proclamation 2019. 2928 02:05:07.680 --> 02:05:10.630 Provided that members of the Committee on Instruction 2929 02:05:10.630 --> 02:05:13.718 are provided access to the online materials 2930 02:05:13.718 --> 02:05:16.950 and that the matter be placed on the September agenda 2931 02:05:16.950 --> 02:05:20.500 to allow the committee to confirm that changes were made. 2932 02:05:20.500 --> 02:05:22.690 Okay, an explanation of that, Miss Melton. 2933 02:05:22.690 --> 02:05:24.650 Yes, this is company. 2934 02:05:24.650 --> 02:05:29.550 It came to us back in April, I believe. 2935 02:05:29.550 --> 02:05:33.950 And submitted some material that was very inappropriate 2936 02:05:33.950 --> 02:05:35.790 in the reading selections. 2937 02:05:35.790 --> 02:05:39.840 And, at that time, we decided to ask them 2938 02:05:39.840 --> 02:05:41.880 to update their information 2939 02:05:41.880 --> 02:05:43.780 and get us some new material. 2940 02:05:43.780 --> 02:05:45.890 And make sure that we thought 2941 02:05:45.890 --> 02:05:49.620 everything was developmentally and age appropriate. 2942 02:05:49.620 --> 02:05:53.970 And they sent us in some other material 2943 02:05:53.970 --> 02:05:56.253 for this particular meeting. 2944 02:05:58.290 --> 02:06:00.260 We're a little skeptical about it. 2945 02:06:00.260 --> 02:06:02.400 The material looked good. 2946 02:06:02.400 --> 02:06:05.167 The problem that we're thinking of is that 2947 02:06:06.710 --> 02:06:08.890 we want to be sure that they're going to 2948 02:06:08.890 --> 02:06:11.270 make the changes that we've asked them to make. 2949 02:06:11.270 --> 02:06:13.730 And we have no assurance of that. 2950 02:06:13.730 --> 02:06:18.570 And we had asked the people who testified in April 2951 02:06:18.570 --> 02:06:20.280 to send us information so that 2952 02:06:20.280 --> 02:06:21.890 we could go onto the website. 2953 02:06:21.890 --> 02:06:24.283 And we did not get it. 2954 02:06:24.283 --> 02:06:26.990 And so, we were skeptical, 2955 02:06:26.990 --> 02:06:31.500 because we want to be sure those changes get made. 2956 02:06:31.500 --> 02:06:35.597 And that the material in the text 2957 02:06:37.390 --> 02:06:40.520 is appropriate for our school age children. 2958 02:06:40.520 --> 02:06:41.353 Very good. 2959 02:06:41.353 --> 02:06:42.556 So, it will be placed on 2960 02:06:42.556 --> 02:06:45.083 the Committee of Instruction agenda in September. 2961 02:06:45.083 --> 02:06:46.428 In September, right. 2962 02:06:46.428 --> 02:06:48.380 Any questions or comments? 2963 02:06:48.380 --> 02:06:49.833 Discussion about that item? 2964 02:06:50.950 --> 02:06:53.020 All in favor, signify by saying aye. 2965 02:06:53.020 --> 02:06:53.853 Aye. 2966 02:06:53.853 --> 02:06:55.057 Opposed, no. 2967 02:06:55.057 --> 02:06:56.800 Motion carries. 2968 02:06:56.800 --> 02:06:58.060 And one last one. 2969 02:06:58.060 --> 02:07:00.850 On page five, number nine. 2970 02:07:00.850 --> 02:07:03.020 On behalf of the Committee on Instruction, 2971 02:07:03.020 --> 02:07:04.980 I move that the State Board of Education 2972 02:07:04.980 --> 02:07:07.120 approve the updates to the Texas State Plan 2973 02:07:07.120 --> 02:07:10.414 for the Education of Gifted Talented Students. 2974 02:07:10.414 --> 02:07:13.270 Any questions or discussion? 2975 02:07:13.270 --> 02:07:15.349 All in favor, signify by saying aye. 2976 02:07:15.349 --> 02:07:16.182 Aye. 2977 02:07:16.182 --> 02:07:17.870 Opposed, no. 2978 02:07:17.870 --> 02:07:18.703 Motion carried. 2979 02:07:18.703 --> 02:07:19.620 That's all I have. 2980 02:07:19.620 --> 02:07:21.040 Thank you, Miss Melton-Malone. 2981 02:07:21.040 --> 02:07:25.150 Mister Maynard, permanent school fund finance. 2982 02:07:27.490 --> 02:07:31.515 Mister chair, we have got one finance item. 2983 02:07:31.515 --> 02:07:32.978 If you find. 2984 02:07:32.978 --> 02:07:36.830 Our minutes are usually split. 2985 02:07:36.830 --> 02:07:39.273 Find one that says school finance item. 2986 02:07:40.290 --> 02:07:44.220 And, on behalf of the Committee on School Finance 2987 02:07:44.220 --> 02:07:45.520 and Permanent School Fund, 2988 02:07:47.440 --> 02:07:49.300 move that the State Board of Education 2989 02:07:49.300 --> 02:07:51.400 approve for second reading and final adoption 2990 02:07:51.400 --> 02:07:53.920 the proposed amendment to 19TAC 2991 02:07:53.920 --> 02:07:57.010 chapter 109, budgeting, accounting, and auditing, 2992 02:07:57.010 --> 02:07:59.310 subchapter C, adoptions by reference, 2993 02:07:59.310 --> 02:08:02.570 109.41, financial accountability 2994 02:08:02.570 --> 02:08:03.670 system resource guide, 2995 02:08:03.670 --> 02:08:06.060 and make an affirmative finding that 2996 02:08:06.060 --> 02:08:08.010 immediate adoption of the proposed amendment 2997 02:08:08.010 --> 02:08:13.010 to 19TAC chapter 109, budgeting, accounting, and auditing, 2998 02:08:13.410 --> 02:08:17.020 subchapter C, adoptions by reference, 2999 02:08:17.020 --> 02:08:20.390 109.41, financial accountability system resource guide 3000 02:08:20.390 --> 02:08:23.180 is necessary and shall have an effective date 3001 02:08:23.180 --> 02:08:27.073 of 20 days after filing as adopted with the Texas Register. 3002 02:08:28.013 --> 02:08:29.523 Any discussion? 3003 02:08:30.610 --> 02:08:31.763 Questions about that? 3004 02:08:33.160 --> 02:08:34.030 All in favor. 3005 02:08:34.030 --> 02:08:34.920 Takes a 2/3 vote. 3006 02:08:34.920 --> 02:08:37.410 Signify by raising both hands. 3007 02:08:37.410 --> 02:08:38.603 Like I surrender. 3008 02:08:39.696 --> 02:08:42.100 (laughter) 3009 02:08:42.100 --> 02:08:44.330 Everybody's surrendered? 3010 02:08:44.330 --> 02:08:46.263 Motion passes by 2/3 vote. 3011 02:08:47.239 --> 02:08:52.150 Mister chairman, just a few things are just worth noting, 3012 02:08:52.150 --> 02:08:55.540 because most of what we did went on the consent agenda. 3013 02:08:55.540 --> 02:09:00.009 But we did have a discussion about 3014 02:09:00.009 --> 02:09:03.363 emerging and diverse managers. 3015 02:09:04.530 --> 02:09:07.800 And, actually, that's an important discussion, 3016 02:09:07.800 --> 02:09:10.620 because, as it turns out, it's really good business. 3017 02:09:10.620 --> 02:09:15.140 Sometimes, big funds, we tend to get into a lane, 3018 02:09:15.140 --> 02:09:16.420 into a groove. 3019 02:09:16.420 --> 02:09:19.673 And, as it turns out, a lot of the smaller ones, 3020 02:09:19.673 --> 02:09:24.673 smaller, emerging managers, are a little hungrier. 3021 02:09:25.192 --> 02:09:27.090 More aggressive. 3022 02:09:27.090 --> 02:09:29.380 I'd just encourage the members to look at that, 3023 02:09:29.380 --> 02:09:32.573 because we put it on the very front end of our meeting. 3024 02:09:33.482 --> 02:09:37.360 Secondly is that we began the implementation 3025 02:09:37.360 --> 02:09:38.851 of the liquid fund. 3026 02:09:38.851 --> 02:09:41.160 At least the early piece of that. 3027 02:09:41.160 --> 02:09:43.890 To address the cash drag on the school land board. 3028 02:09:43.890 --> 02:09:44.723 And so that's something. 3029 02:09:44.723 --> 02:09:46.450 And then also worth noting. 3030 02:09:46.450 --> 02:09:47.922 We always talk about the school. 3031 02:09:47.922 --> 02:09:50.576 The bond guarantee program. 3032 02:09:50.576 --> 02:09:54.910 And, currently, we've been at 117 billion for some time, 3033 02:09:54.910 --> 02:09:57.183 'cause that's what the IRS allows us to do. 3034 02:09:58.090 --> 02:10:00.140 It takes about two years to expand that. 3035 02:10:00.140 --> 02:10:02.370 And so, we're about to begin that process 3036 02:10:02.370 --> 02:10:05.151 of looking to expand that. 3037 02:10:05.151 --> 02:10:08.740 There was a discussion on asset allocation. 3038 02:10:08.740 --> 02:10:09.940 We took no action on that. 3039 02:10:09.940 --> 02:10:13.180 We have a more formal review of that in about a year. 3040 02:10:13.180 --> 02:10:14.910 Okay, very good. 3041 02:10:14.910 --> 02:10:16.500 Thank you, Mister Maynard. 3042 02:10:16.500 --> 02:10:19.763 We have testifiers who have come from general session. 3043 02:10:21.980 --> 02:10:24.041 Jeanette Lafevers. 3044 02:10:24.041 --> 02:10:27.453 Lafevers, there you go. 3045 02:10:28.520 --> 02:10:31.050 And then Robert Satchel. 3046 02:10:31.050 --> 02:10:32.563 Is Mister Satchel here? 3047 02:10:34.360 --> 02:10:39.360 Okay, then, Sandra West would follow Miss Lafevers. 3048 02:10:41.560 --> 02:10:44.260 Thank you for having me here today. 3049 02:10:45.344 --> 02:10:47.560 And thank you for the actions that you've taken on behalf of 3050 02:10:47.560 --> 02:10:49.560 the international baccalaureate students 3051 02:10:49.560 --> 02:10:51.230 in the state of Texas. 3052 02:10:51.230 --> 02:10:55.440 I am handing out to you just a quick reminder 3053 02:10:55.440 --> 02:10:57.597 of the remaining issue that we have. 3054 02:10:57.597 --> 02:11:01.120 And that has to do with the fine arts, 3055 02:11:01.120 --> 02:11:03.100 the IB fine arts other than film. 3056 02:11:03.100 --> 02:11:05.990 And I have them listed for you on the front of this page. 3057 02:11:05.990 --> 02:11:08.420 And then what we believe needs. 3058 02:11:08.420 --> 02:11:12.110 What actions need to still be taking place. 3059 02:11:12.110 --> 02:11:14.040 These are the only IB courses that 3060 02:11:14.040 --> 02:11:16.500 have not been granted the two credits. 3061 02:11:16.500 --> 02:11:18.768 I also notice, in the rule text, 3062 02:11:18.768 --> 02:11:22.957 that there was language in chapter 117 3063 02:11:22.957 --> 02:11:26.300 that talks about some prerequisites that 3064 02:11:26.300 --> 02:11:29.990 the IB courses do not have prerequisites for. 3065 02:11:29.990 --> 02:11:33.290 And I've given some proposed languages. 3066 02:11:33.290 --> 02:11:36.560 Some proposed language that could be used 3067 02:11:36.560 --> 02:11:38.720 on the pages that follow. 3068 02:11:38.720 --> 02:11:41.286 And, in chapter 74, it would need to be updated 3069 02:11:41.286 --> 02:11:46.286 to list these IB fine arts courses 3070 02:11:46.460 --> 02:11:49.110 as meeting graduation requirements 3071 02:11:49.110 --> 02:11:51.490 and then how it applies to endorsements. 3072 02:11:51.490 --> 02:11:54.220 So, we believe that this is truly 3073 02:11:54.220 --> 02:11:58.110 the end of the issues that we have 3074 02:11:58.110 --> 02:12:00.550 that we can identify at this point. 3075 02:12:02.670 --> 02:12:04.650 I just love your company so much. 3076 02:12:04.650 --> 02:12:06.463 We invent things to come back. 3077 02:12:06.463 --> 02:12:08.608 And you stayed for the duration today. 3078 02:12:08.608 --> 02:12:10.191 That is impressive. 3079 02:12:11.473 --> 02:12:13.460 Yes, it took me longer to get up here 3080 02:12:13.460 --> 02:12:15.430 than it did to get from Munich, Germany. 3081 02:12:15.430 --> 02:12:17.950 (laughter) 3082 02:12:17.950 --> 02:12:18.783 That's right. 3083 02:12:18.783 --> 02:12:21.160 And we didn't serve peanuts here. 3084 02:12:21.160 --> 02:12:23.240 Okay, so, members, recall. 3085 02:12:23.240 --> 02:12:24.640 This is not posted for discussion. 3086 02:12:24.640 --> 02:12:26.580 You can ask questions. 3087 02:12:26.580 --> 02:12:28.110 But, beyond that, 3088 02:12:28.110 --> 02:12:30.423 that's about the extent of our participation. 3089 02:12:31.290 --> 02:12:32.123 Mister chair. 3090 02:12:32.123 --> 02:12:32.956 Yes, Mister Maynard. 3091 02:12:32.956 --> 02:12:33.930 If we address all the issues, 3092 02:12:33.930 --> 02:12:35.680 we won't get to see you anymore. 3093 02:12:35.680 --> 02:12:37.112 I'll come back every now and then 3094 02:12:37.112 --> 02:12:38.770 just to see what's going on. 3095 02:12:38.770 --> 02:12:39.980 Okay, thank you, Miss Lafevers. 3096 02:12:39.980 --> 02:12:41.458 Thank you. 3097 02:12:41.458 --> 02:12:44.340 Mister Satchel we decided is not here. 3098 02:12:44.340 --> 02:12:45.343 Robert Satchel. 3099 02:12:46.410 --> 02:12:47.463 Doctor West. 3100 02:13:01.040 --> 02:13:01.873 Is it on? 3101 02:13:01.873 --> 02:13:02.783 Oh, now it is, okay. 3102 02:13:04.670 --> 02:13:06.370 I'm Sandra West. 3103 02:13:06.370 --> 02:13:08.822 Thank you for your due diligence. 3104 02:13:08.822 --> 02:13:11.520 Y'all are absolutely amazing. 3105 02:13:11.520 --> 02:13:12.450 My brain. 3106 02:13:12.450 --> 02:13:15.350 I have a headache right now listening to all of this today 3107 02:13:15.350 --> 02:13:17.700 and trying to actually keep up with some of it. 3108 02:13:18.870 --> 02:13:19.830 What I have for you 3109 02:13:19.830 --> 02:13:22.770 is a very pitiful piece of documentation. 3110 02:13:22.770 --> 02:13:23.603 I'm sorry. 3111 02:13:23.603 --> 02:13:25.820 That was the best I could do from a hotel last night. 3112 02:13:25.820 --> 02:13:27.517 The clerk was very helpful to me. 3113 02:13:27.517 --> 02:13:31.530 But I thought you needed this information in writing. 3114 02:13:31.530 --> 02:13:33.960 I do better when things are in writing in front of me. 3115 02:13:33.960 --> 02:13:38.440 I have eight topics I'd like to address very briefly. 3116 02:13:38.440 --> 02:13:39.940 And I'd like to skip number two, 3117 02:13:39.940 --> 02:13:41.510 because it goes with the handout 3118 02:13:41.510 --> 02:13:43.840 that's on the back of your half page. 3119 02:13:43.840 --> 02:13:44.845 The first one. 3120 02:13:44.845 --> 02:13:47.228 Of course, I'm talking about science TEKS 3121 02:13:47.228 --> 02:13:50.830 need a complete rewrite. 3122 02:13:50.830 --> 02:13:52.220 I know we call them revision. 3123 02:13:52.220 --> 02:13:54.460 But I'd like to say we need innovation. 3124 02:13:54.460 --> 02:13:56.100 Not just a revision. 3125 02:13:56.100 --> 02:13:58.350 The science TEKS are lacking in many areas. 3126 02:13:58.350 --> 02:14:01.030 And thus the need for innovation 3127 02:14:01.030 --> 02:14:04.200 rather than just editing is needed. 3128 02:14:04.200 --> 02:14:06.320 Some work has been done to identify holes. 3129 02:14:06.320 --> 02:14:09.220 And I actually shared some of those with you previously. 3130 02:14:09.220 --> 02:14:12.410 But this may not be the most effective or efficient way. 3131 02:14:12.410 --> 02:14:14.370 But, however, it's probably likely 3132 02:14:14.370 --> 02:14:17.970 to provide evidence for the need of a major revision. 3133 02:14:17.970 --> 02:14:20.980 The third bullet, merge practices with content, 3134 02:14:20.980 --> 02:14:25.610 and not separate processes as we currently do in our TEKS. 3135 02:14:25.610 --> 02:14:27.253 We need that for a better understanding of 3136 02:14:27.253 --> 02:14:29.970 authentic science content and practices. 3137 02:14:29.970 --> 02:14:34.120 And as guidance for our teachers. 3138 02:14:34.120 --> 02:14:35.867 The next bullet, lost instructional time. 3139 02:14:35.867 --> 02:14:37.850 I want to remind you of the research 3140 02:14:37.850 --> 02:14:40.810 that was done by STAT where teachers reported 3141 02:14:40.810 --> 02:14:43.280 they lost 21 instructional days. 3142 02:14:43.280 --> 02:14:47.244 However, only 11 plus days were due to state testing. 3143 02:14:47.244 --> 02:14:49.498 Nine plus days were lost to 3144 02:14:49.498 --> 02:14:53.623 pep rallies, iPad distribution, et cetera. 3145 02:14:55.030 --> 02:14:58.570 We have heard that there might be practice STAAR 3146 02:14:58.570 --> 02:15:00.830 that might be coming in the middle of the semester. 3147 02:15:00.830 --> 02:15:02.857 So, we are really concerned that 3148 02:15:02.857 --> 02:15:05.250 we are gonna be losing more instructional days 3149 02:15:05.250 --> 02:15:06.960 with the practice STAAR in addition 3150 02:15:06.960 --> 02:15:11.800 to the required assessment times. 3151 02:15:11.800 --> 02:15:15.320 Also, we would like for the committee to consider 3152 02:15:15.320 --> 02:15:18.720 not having math problems on a STAAR science test. 3153 02:15:18.720 --> 02:15:20.450 If it's going to assess math, 3154 02:15:20.450 --> 02:15:22.350 then it needs to be in the math STAAR. 3155 02:15:23.270 --> 02:15:24.527 We would also suggest that 3156 02:15:24.527 --> 02:15:27.480 there be an alignment with math. 3157 02:15:27.480 --> 02:15:31.360 And I've testified probably numerous times on this before. 3158 02:15:31.360 --> 02:15:33.170 That, even though the math may be 3159 02:15:33.170 --> 02:15:34.540 taught in that grade level, 3160 02:15:34.540 --> 02:15:36.211 it is not necessarily taught 3161 02:15:36.211 --> 02:15:37.044 (ding) 3162 02:15:37.044 --> 02:15:38.243 when the science teachers need it. 3163 02:15:39.790 --> 02:15:41.238 Is that my ding? 3164 02:15:41.238 --> 02:15:42.071 30 more seconds. 3165 02:15:42.071 --> 02:15:43.550 Okay, quick. 3166 02:15:43.550 --> 02:15:45.610 That the alignment with math 3167 02:15:45.610 --> 02:15:48.800 be from the math from the previous year. 3168 02:15:48.800 --> 02:15:50.890 Also, is there going to be a limit 3169 02:15:50.890 --> 02:15:53.290 to the number of TEKS again, as we had? 3170 02:15:53.290 --> 02:15:58.140 And can the science leadership have input 3171 02:15:58.140 --> 02:16:01.230 into the survey that the state's going to put out. 3172 02:16:01.230 --> 02:16:03.060 And back up to the second bullet. 3173 02:16:03.060 --> 02:16:04.723 The organization and structure of the TEKS 3174 02:16:04.723 --> 02:16:06.601 does not support science learning 3175 02:16:06.601 --> 02:16:09.338 and artificially limits the clear understanding. 3176 02:16:09.338 --> 02:16:10.956 (ding) 3177 02:16:10.956 --> 02:16:11.789 I have presented to you. 3178 02:16:11.789 --> 02:16:13.587 Middle of a sentence here. 3179 02:16:13.587 --> 02:16:17.900 Presented to you what I hope is an example 3180 02:16:17.900 --> 02:16:21.560 of where the holes are in the structure of the TEKS, 3181 02:16:21.560 --> 02:16:24.076 not the concept or content, 3182 02:16:24.076 --> 02:16:27.140 and how it should be according to 3183 02:16:27.140 --> 02:16:29.394 the National Science Education standards 3184 02:16:29.394 --> 02:16:31.380 that science teachers and scientists 3185 02:16:31.380 --> 02:16:33.883 have developed over the years. 3186 02:16:35.130 --> 02:16:37.080 Any questions of Doctor West? 3187 02:16:38.230 --> 02:16:39.063 Thank you very much. 3188 02:16:39.063 --> 02:16:39.980 We look forward to. 3189 02:16:39.980 --> 02:16:41.306 Oh, Miss Cargill. 3190 02:16:41.306 --> 02:16:42.820 (too faint to hear) 3191 02:16:42.820 --> 02:16:46.140 No, there's nothing from the NTSS on here. 3192 02:16:46.140 --> 02:16:46.973 I'm sorry. 3193 02:16:46.973 --> 02:16:48.320 It doesn't show up very well. 3194 02:16:48.320 --> 02:16:49.940 But the left column are TEKS. 3195 02:16:50.890 --> 02:16:52.570 So, the left column are TEKS. 3196 02:16:52.570 --> 02:16:54.270 The right column is from the framework 3197 02:16:54.270 --> 02:16:56.460 for K-12 science education. 3198 02:16:56.460 --> 02:16:58.623 There's nothing on here from NTSS. 3199 02:17:00.540 --> 02:17:01.373 Thank you. 3200 02:17:01.373 --> 02:17:03.280 Look forward to working with you, Doctor West. 3201 02:17:03.280 --> 02:17:05.240 Science rolls around. 3202 02:17:05.240 --> 02:17:07.090 Okay, members, I think that's 3203 02:17:07.090 --> 02:17:10.260 all we have to cover agenda-wise. 3204 02:17:10.260 --> 02:17:12.483 Points of personal privilege? 3205 02:17:14.090 --> 02:17:15.770 Yes, Miss Melton-Malone. 3206 02:17:15.770 --> 02:17:18.920 Not me, but we need to say congratulations 3207 02:17:18.920 --> 02:17:21.270 to Doctor Ellis for his award that he received. 3208 02:17:25.932 --> 02:17:28.182 (applause) 3209 02:17:30.000 --> 02:17:32.100 Doctor Ellis always has your back. 3210 02:17:39.120 --> 02:17:40.900 Even in Donna's absence, 3211 02:17:40.900 --> 02:17:41.850 I'd like to say publicly 3212 02:17:41.850 --> 02:17:43.900 and thank her for her service as the board chair. 3213 02:17:43.900 --> 02:17:46.331 I think she's done a fantastic job. 3214 02:17:46.331 --> 02:17:48.581 (applause) 3215 02:17:50.590 --> 02:17:52.180 I have one. 3216 02:17:52.180 --> 02:17:54.800 We recently lost somebody who was 3217 02:17:54.800 --> 02:17:57.019 very, very instrumental in making sure that 3218 02:17:57.019 --> 02:18:00.310 our teacher force was diverse in Texas. 3219 02:18:00.310 --> 02:18:02.290 And that was Doctor Elaine Bailey. 3220 02:18:02.290 --> 02:18:04.270 She was in the Houston area. 3221 02:18:04.270 --> 02:18:07.212 And she started teaching, I think, around the '50s. 3222 02:18:07.212 --> 02:18:10.560 When there wasn't many African American teachers at all. 3223 02:18:10.560 --> 02:18:12.390 And not only did she increase 3224 02:18:12.390 --> 02:18:13.830 the number of African American teachers 3225 02:18:13.830 --> 02:18:15.170 through her advocacy, 3226 02:18:15.170 --> 02:18:17.430 she wanted to make sure that all teachers that 3227 02:18:17.430 --> 02:18:19.870 taught Black students had the tools they needed 3228 02:18:19.870 --> 02:18:21.960 for those students to be successful. 3229 02:18:21.960 --> 02:18:25.480 And she's affected thousands of teachers across the country. 3230 02:18:25.480 --> 02:18:26.610 Mostly here in Texas. 3231 02:18:26.610 --> 02:18:28.530 And she passed away last week. 3232 02:18:28.530 --> 02:18:30.090 So, I did want to use my time 3233 02:18:30.090 --> 02:18:32.710 to publicly say thank you, Doctor Bailey, 3234 02:18:32.710 --> 02:18:33.923 for everything you've done 3235 02:18:33.923 --> 02:18:36.840 in shaping Texas the way it is. 3236 02:18:36.840 --> 02:18:38.370 A diverse teacher force where 3237 02:18:38.370 --> 02:18:40.700 everybody can serve every student. 3238 02:18:40.700 --> 02:18:42.140 We have a lot of that to thank for her. 3239 02:18:42.140 --> 02:18:44.530 She's like a little hidden hero. 3240 02:18:44.530 --> 02:18:45.363 Very good. 3241 02:18:45.363 --> 02:18:46.196 Very good. 3242 02:18:46.196 --> 02:18:47.029 Thank you, Miss Davis. 3243 02:18:47.029 --> 02:18:47.903 (applause) 3244 02:18:47.903 --> 02:18:48.736 Any further? 3245 02:18:48.736 --> 02:18:49.973 Mister Maynard. 3246 02:18:49.973 --> 02:18:52.038 I'd just like to remind folks, also. 3247 02:18:52.038 --> 02:18:57.038 Doctor Keven Ellis also made a huge commitment 3248 02:18:57.190 --> 02:18:59.464 to the school finance commission. 3249 02:18:59.464 --> 02:19:02.640 And really did a lot of work on that. 3250 02:19:02.640 --> 02:19:03.473 Thank you for that. 3251 02:19:03.473 --> 02:19:04.927 That was certainly above and beyond. 3252 02:19:04.927 --> 02:19:07.483 I understand that the pay scale is about the same. 3253 02:19:08.439 --> 02:19:10.182 Very good. 3254 02:19:10.182 --> 02:19:11.554 (applause) 3255 02:19:11.554 --> 02:19:13.895 And I'd also like to remind all the members that, 3256 02:19:13.895 --> 02:19:17.010 if you've not picked up some peaches, we have plenty. 3257 02:19:17.010 --> 02:19:22.010 So, those are raised in Blumenthal, Texas 3258 02:19:22.200 --> 02:19:23.790 between Stonewall and Fredericksburg 3259 02:19:23.790 --> 02:19:25.800 by my good friend Russ Studebaker. 3260 02:19:25.800 --> 02:19:27.530 And he's a great farmer. 3261 02:19:27.530 --> 02:19:30.610 And so, there are plenty. 3262 02:19:30.610 --> 02:19:32.561 We run out in there, I have more in the truck. 3263 02:19:32.561 --> 02:19:34.800 (laughter) 3264 02:19:34.800 --> 02:19:35.633 Very good. 3265 02:19:35.633 --> 02:19:37.030 Anything further? 3266 02:19:37.030 --> 02:19:38.430 Yes, Miss Davis. 3267 02:19:38.430 --> 02:19:40.190 We have an education day in the district 3268 02:19:40.190 --> 02:19:41.550 in Dallas in September. 3269 02:19:41.550 --> 02:19:43.390 I'll be sending you guys invitations. 3270 02:19:43.390 --> 02:19:48.050 I want to connect K-12 leaders, school board members, 3271 02:19:48.050 --> 02:19:51.100 higher ed entities, nonprofits. 3272 02:19:51.100 --> 02:19:53.070 Anybody to come together to help kids. 3273 02:19:53.070 --> 02:19:55.510 And, of course, I would love for you guys to be there. 3274 02:19:55.510 --> 02:19:57.160 And I'll be sending you guys more information about that. 3275 02:19:57.160 --> 02:19:58.345 Very good. 3276 02:19:58.345 --> 02:19:59.800 Anything further? 3277 02:19:59.800 --> 02:20:00.633 We're adjourned.