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(classical orchestral music)
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Welcome
to the California
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Public Utilities Commission.
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This is a wildfire Safety
Advisory Board meeting scheduled
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for this day, Wednesday,
March 3rd, 2021.
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Ms. Edwards, you may begin.
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Hello. Thank you.
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I think we'll start
with Catherine.
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Go ahead.
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Thank you.
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This is the first virtual
public meeting of 2021
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for the, this is the first
quarterly board meeting.
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We are going to spend
the next few minutes
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going over the technology to be used
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during the meeting so that
we can all start today's meeting
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understanding the technology.
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And so that we're all on the same page.
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A summary of the different
ways that you can participate
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in this meeting can be found
on the power on the PowerPoint
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which can be accessed
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through the website cpuc.ca.gov/wsab
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This meeting will be live broadcast
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with the normal CPUC
live broadcast location
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adminmonitor.com/ca/cpuc
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and it will be recorded for the future
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if you, if you miss any
part of the meeting.
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To interact with the
board during this meeting,
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we have a phone number
and an operator on standby
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to cue the phone line.
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We'll have an opening and
closing public comment period.
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The calling number is listed
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on the agenda and the phone
number is 1-800-857-1917.
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And the passcode is 1767567.
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When the joint, when you joined the call
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you'll be in listen only mode.
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If you'd like to participate
during public comment
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press * 1 on the phone,
and you will be added
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to the public comment
queue and called upon
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during the meeting by the
chair with the assistance
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of the operator.
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Public comment will also be received
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in the Wildfire Safety
Advisory Board email inbox.
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The email address is
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WildfireSafetyAdvisoryBoard@cpuc.ca.gov.
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Comments received here
will be read into the record.
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If they can't, if it can be
read in under three minutes.
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All comments will receive will be posted
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to the Wildfire Safety Advisory
Board web Board website
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after the meeting.
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In addition, the CPSC
public advisor is on standby
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if you're having any
additional technical problems
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please do not hesitate to
reach out to the public advisor
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either by email or phone
public.advisor@cpuc.ca.gov.
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And that phone number is (866) 849-8390.
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And with that, I'll pass it back to you.
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Chair Edwards.
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Thank you, Katherine.
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All right.
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Let's see.
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Today is March 3rd, 2021.
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It's the first meeting
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the Wildfire Safety
Advisory Board of 2021.
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My name is Marcie Edwards.
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I'm the chair of this meeting.
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I'd like to begin as always
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by thanking my fellow board members
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for taking the time to
not only participate today
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that they do a tremendous
amount of work offline.
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And so I'm very appreciative.
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Speaking of additional work I'd like to
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congratulate board members,
Jessica Block, Alexandra Syphard
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and Ralph Armstrong for running a very
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successful vegetation
management workshop yesterday.
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I think the modeling
tools offered there are very
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cutting edge, and I
hope we consider some
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of those tools going forward.
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I hope we sparked some ideas
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within the utility community.
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Visitation management is
an area we really need to
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examine not only what we're doing,
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but why we are doing it
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and the impact potentially
of other alternatives.
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So we appreciate the audience
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in yesterday's veg management,
that too was recorded.
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And so you'll have
an opportunity to play it
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at your leisure.
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If you were not in attendance.
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In addition
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I would like to welcome
Leah Harrower to our group.
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She is new with us
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and I was hoping without
it people losing their minds
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can we do 30 seconds
Leah, on where you came from
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and your background
so that not only the board
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but the audience is
more familiar with you.
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I'm, sure chair Edwards.
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I Joined The California Public
Utilities Commission in March
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and I was on (indistinct) to
the wildfire Safety division
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before joining the,
before joining the board.
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Prior to that, I was a supervisor
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at the California Energy Commission
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in the office of Compliance
Assistance and Enforcement.
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And prior to that
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I was also a supervisor
in the supervising
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a small team who were
providing compliance assistance
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and enforcement of the
title 24 building standards.
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And before that, I was lecturing history
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of politics at the university
of Sterling in Scotland.
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Excellent. Thank you so much.
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And we very much
appreciate you choosing to
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to team up with us.
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It's it's an, it's an exciting board.
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All right.
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Speaking of Beth, could you lead us
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in the pledge of allegiance please?
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Thank you chair Edwards.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag
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of the United States of America and
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to the Republic for which it stands
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one nation under God
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indivisible with Liberty
and justice for all.
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Now I will turn the meeting
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over to Katherine Stockton
for our safety announcements.
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Thank you.
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As the COVID-19 pandemic continues, most
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of us face more stress than ever before.
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Many of us work from home.
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So the boundaries
between our home lives and
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our work lives have blurred.
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Recognizing these challenges,
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I just like to take a couple of moments,
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to invite everyone to take a deep breath
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and try to let go of any
of the stress you may feel
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in this moment.
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Thank you.
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And so onto the next slide please.
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the materials for the
meeting today are available
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on our website and
that's cpuc.ca.gov/wsab
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And on there, you'll find the minutes
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from the December 9th meeting
the agenda for today's meeting
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and the PowerPoint
presentation that is running
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during this meeting.
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Back to chair Edwards.
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Thank you, Katherine.
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I appreciate it.
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All right, let's go over today's
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meeting agenda very quickly.
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We are going to start
with public comments.
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After public comments, we will discuss
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and vote on the December
9th meeting minutes.
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Subsequently we'll have presentations
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from the CMUA utilities
association on the 2021
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publicly owned utility
wildfire mitigation plan update.
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Then we'll hear from the
Wildfire Safety Division
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on their activities.
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After these presentations
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we're going to take
a quick stretch break.
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And after the break
we'll have presentations
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from the Investor Owned Utilities,
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providing overview of their WMP updates,
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and then we'll open the lines
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for final round of public comments
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and then subsequently adjourn.
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That having been said
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if we can start the meeting
with public comments.
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I think we need to
bump me up a slide or no.
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Okay.
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As mentioned, if
you'd like to participate
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in today's public comment,
phone number is 1-800-857-1917,
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with passcode of 17 67 567.
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Please press * 1 on your phone to get
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in the queue operator is the line open?
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The public
comment line is now open, yes.
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Thank you very much.
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First, let's get started.
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Let's check the Wildfire Safety
Advisory Board email box.
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Katherine spots in.
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Do we have any email communications?
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We have no email
communications at this time.
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Thank you.
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Now I'd like to check with
our telephone operator.
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Do we have any public
comment on the phone line?
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[Telephone Operator] We
have no comments at this time,
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but again, as a reminder
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for those on the phone, if you
would like to make a comment
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please unmute your phone, press * 1
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and record your first and last
name clearly when prompted.
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So I may introduce you and that is * 1.
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I appreciate that.
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I do wanna remind the audience.
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Public comment is a
critical part of our process.
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We are always anxious to
hear from you in your perspective
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I'm gonna give it another 10, 15 seconds
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in case anyone was
thinking about joining
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and decided they want to say something
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and I'll ask the operator
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one more time in a few minutes.
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We'll see if anybody joined
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Operator do we have anyone on the line.
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I show no one
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in the public comment
queue with it at this time.
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Thank you operator.
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This closes public comment.
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I'm moving to the December
9th meeting minutes.
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The meeting minutes can be found
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on Wildfire Safety
Advisory Board website.
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I'm sure that all the board members have
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had an opportunity to read the minutes.
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Do we have any edits or
additions to the meeting minutes
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at this time, board members?
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I move adoption of the minutes.
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You have a motion.
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Second.
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It's been moved and seconded
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that we adopt the meeting minutes as is.
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Do we have any, no vote?
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Then this passes unanimously.
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Thank you for that.
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Moving to our next segment.
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I would, again like to
thank our, our presenters.
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Sometimes I think people
don't realize particularly
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when it comes to associations,
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what a load, these people carry.
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Not only are they
assisting in the development
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of the presentations to us
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and to the structure that is
required or needed, rather,
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they also work with the IOUs to ensure
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that what they bring
forward is representative
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of the group as a whole.
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And that level of have level
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of occurrence can be challenging.
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And I specifically like to tease out
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Barry Moline for his
work and also in CTA
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for the California
public power association
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certainly Sacramento
municipal utility district
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and the (indistinct) state cooperatives,
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as well as the other publicly
owned utility partners.
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Thank you again for all of your work.
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With that I would like to turn it
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over to Barry Moline,
CMUA Executive Director.
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Well, thank you, chair
Edwards and board members
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for the opportunity
to be with you today.
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As you said, the,
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work that I'm presenting today is a
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a collaborative effort
on everybody's part.
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So everybody that you mentioned, and
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I appreciate your, your
understanding and the
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of the process that we go
through that we sometimes
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you know, call it herding cats,
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but we're getting a lot of people's
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ideas together, you know,
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50 to 60 utilities and,
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you know, it's an interesting challenge.
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And, and that's what I'm here to do to
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present with you today.
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Thank you Barry.
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The publicly-owned utilities
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and the electric cooperative, or sorry
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the utility and electric
cooperative associations
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created an informational
response template
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to help consumer on utilities
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provide an appropriate response
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to the board's guidance
that you all provided
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to us in December of 2020.
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And this template has three parts to it.
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And Joe, leave that page on,
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just where we are right now.
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And then I'll let you know
when to go to the next page.
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The template has three parts
and I'm gonna name them
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and then describe each one briefly.
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So the first part is table one
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which is the context
setting information.
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The second part is table two
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which is cross-references
to statutory requirements.
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And then the third part
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is what we call section three
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which is the response
to the board's guidance,
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advisory opinion recommendations.
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So, Joe, if you would
go to the next page and
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which is table one a
little bit further down there
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where you can see the
beginning of table one and,
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that's perfect table
one does start here.
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It goes onto the next
page, but for the sake
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of this conversation,
we'll just keep it here
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and then I'll ask you Joe to
move it down just a little bit.
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So table one, this is the
context setting information.
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This includes 15 descriptors
that give the board a picture
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of each utility and the
defining characteristics
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as they pertain to wildfire mitigation.
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So where it's possible,
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the descriptors are
presented in percentages
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so that the board and
staff can see the extent
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of various elements.
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We did that rather than,
than have checkboxes
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suggesting the presence
of a particular characteristic
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like high fire, high fire threat area,
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medium fire threat area.
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but to show what the
service territory in that area.
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Yes, ma'am Quick
clarifying question.
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Is it a percentage of the
number of customers served
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or the percentage of the
population within service
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territory?
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Actually, I think the,
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that's a good question.
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We would probably look
at that as a percentage
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of the square mileage of the,
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of the service territory.
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Mm, interesting, okay.
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Yeah.
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We probably need
to get that clarified
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so everybody's gonna
use the same framework.
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That is a good question.
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And I,
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so it's, if we go down to the,
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to that's
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yeah, like service territory
is in these location area
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like one that you see on the screen.
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So it's specified in each section.
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So if we scroll
through a little bit, the
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the type of characteristic,
thank you Joe
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is identified by the (indistinct)
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So like service territory that's in,
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based on total area.
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So that would be a landmass
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as opposed to customers affected.
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Okay?
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Right.
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So basically what
we're trying to do here
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is show the level of the presence
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of a particular descriptor.
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So that moving through
this section to the next table
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that would be the next page, Joe.
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And that would be table two
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and table two is fairly straightforward.
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This is a cross-reference of the parts
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of the wildfire mitigation plan
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to the statutory requirements.
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And this will help the board,
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will help reviewers to
find information quickly.
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So we just have that in there
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if you're looking for
a particular section
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and it may not be easy to
see in the table of contents
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defined there by the
statutory requirements.
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That's very helpful.
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I'm hopeful that its,
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because what I found last time
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in reading the plans is
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that sometime they would make mention
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of it two or three times
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and I had to keep
rereading it to find them all.
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But my hope is that
when they list the location
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in their wildfire mitigation plan
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that they do consider the list.
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Every time they bring
it up, that's meaningful.
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It's not just a listing of, you know,
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that doesn't matter
but if it's meaningful,
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please list the additional section page.
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Okay?
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Okay.
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So, so when there
are multiple references
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identify those multiple locations.
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Right?
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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And then moving to section three.
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So Joe, now scroll
a little bit further and
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keep going.
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This is starts at the
bottom here on the right.
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This is generally the area right here.
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Okay.
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So this is, you
can stop there, Joe,
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but this section is multiple pages
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and this is just a sample.
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This is a narrative segment
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and it reflects the 14 recommendations
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from the boards advisory opinion.
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So each of the 14 sections
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allows the electric utility
to provide a narrative
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and a narrative response basically.
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So each utility would provide
information as appropriate
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to their local circumstances
and also relative
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to the content of their 2020
wildfire management plan.
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So, so that has already been filed.
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Wow!
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So that's where the meat of the
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of the response would take place.
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And so I conclude the, you know
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the POU and electric
cooperative associations
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we're going to be working
with our utility members
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and encouraging them
to submit this informational
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updated with their wildfire
mitigation plan update.
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And that'll be transmitted
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to the board by July 1st of this year.
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So that concludes my summary.
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And I welcome your questions, thanks.
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I I'd, I'd again,
like to comment on,
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I'm well aware how difficult this is
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in such a group of
non-regulated freethinkers.
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Who've done an amazing job on their own,
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but to kind of think as a group
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and pull themselves into this structure
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to help the board is truly appreciated.
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I wanna ask my fellow board members,
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what do you think?
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I mean, I happen to like,
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this is really my first time doing it,
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but I love the one at
the beginning where
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it does all the sorts.
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So I don't know about you,
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but I would spent hours trying to
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find that information on the utility.
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I like the cross-referencing
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and I love the specific
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approach to each recommendation.
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We don't need to search it out.
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It's right there.
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So, Chris, did you have a comment?
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Yeah, sure I would.
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I do like the point you made
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it's in multiple locations,
there were general references,
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and then specific explanations,
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delineating what would
be generally addressed.
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And then what specifics
are to address each
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statutory requirement that,
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that would help us in
the examination of all 50
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that we look at the updates.
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It's important.
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But this is a much improved template
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because it actually allows the
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the POUs to create a dialogue
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to address the statutory
requirements and give us context
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that we then can evaluate,
you know, in a more
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in-depth matter.
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Much, much better where, where
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they're giving us a real
look at their unique qualities.
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Each one percentage.
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I was very, I, when I
reviewed reviewed it very,
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very happy with it.
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Yeah, no, I was, I was too.
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Prior to going to the vice chair.
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Can we scroll down again to the bottom
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of the first section, Joe.
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You got the table, take
me to the bottom of the table
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for the last kind of grouping.
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Yeah, stop right there.
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I wonder if it's valuable
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and it may not be to differentiate
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if you have to shed
load due to an IOU PSPS
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or if you get a call from
the Call ISO telling you
00:22:32.417 --> 00:22:35.510
and if I noticed it
different ways last time
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(indistinct) notified a
potential loss of service.
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Okay, so the last question
there is perspective
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the notified, but it didn't
happen or it did happen.
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I'm not sure the intent
of that last question.
00:22:51.040 --> 00:22:52.590
What are you trying to tell me?
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Barry are you, are you hooked up?
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Yeah, I'm
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the, this is just simply the
communication element.
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Are they in touch with
their investor and utilities?
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Have they been notified that they may
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there there's a lot of
communication that goes on
00:23:13.500 --> 00:23:14.333
between investor-owned utilities
00:23:14.333 --> 00:23:17.573
and their customers
just letting them know,
00:23:18.660 --> 00:23:20.660
looks like the wind's picking up
00:23:20.660 --> 00:23:23.780
these this next three days
00:23:23.780 --> 00:23:27.110
could be a difficult
timeframe, be prepared.
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And it it's a reflection of,
00:23:30.300 --> 00:23:31.840
have you been notified
00:23:31.840 --> 00:23:36.030
by your investor on utility to
be prepared that (indistinct)
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Yeah, this was obviously
been a big topic as well
00:23:39.980 --> 00:23:41.410
within the IOU community,
00:23:41.410 --> 00:23:43.080
because they hate to tell you that
00:23:43.080 --> 00:23:45.890
no, it's not gonna
happen, then it happens.
00:23:45.890 --> 00:23:47.590
I mean and if you think about it
00:23:47.590 --> 00:23:49.560
the public's experienced similar things.
00:23:49.560 --> 00:23:51.604
People want information
00:23:51.604 --> 00:23:53.628
and it's difficult because it changes
00:23:53.628 --> 00:23:55.440
and all you need is a
change in wind speed
00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:58.810
or direction to completely
wipe out what you just said.
00:23:58.810 --> 00:23:59.760
So, all right.
00:23:59.760 --> 00:24:03.060
So this is communication related only
00:24:03.060 --> 00:24:06.323
and the one above it
is actually lost service.
00:24:07.600 --> 00:24:08.830
Right?
00:24:08.830 --> 00:24:09.910
Okay.
00:24:09.910 --> 00:24:13.990
Yeah, I wonder, of course
it probably only applies
00:24:13.990 --> 00:24:14.959
to a few utilities,
00:24:14.959 --> 00:24:19.817
ones that are ordered
separately outside of the IOUs,
00:24:19.817 --> 00:24:21.910
because we have what's mud and LA
00:24:21.910 --> 00:24:25.450
and IID and ones that may
have been ordered to shed load
00:24:25.450 --> 00:24:29.230
but not through an
investor owned utility per se.
00:24:29.230 --> 00:24:31.470
I wonder if they need a box
or if there's so few of them
00:24:31.470 --> 00:24:32.940
we can just remember that.
00:24:34.500 --> 00:24:35.996
Only that important.
00:24:35.996 --> 00:24:38.863
Diane, you had a question or a comment.
00:24:40.260 --> 00:24:42.410
Thanks chair Edwards.
00:24:42.410 --> 00:24:47.330
Barry, again extend our
appreciation to all of your members.
00:24:47.330 --> 00:24:49.500
This is fantastic.
00:24:49.500 --> 00:24:51.950
I wanna follow up on the line
00:24:51.950 --> 00:24:56.950
of inquiry that chair
Edwards was just raising.
00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:01.480
And this is something
in my area of review.
00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:06.480
And I'm noticing as we go
through the IOU 2021 updates
00:25:07.630 --> 00:25:11.210
the communication with the customer
00:25:13.551 --> 00:25:16.770
their customers is highly defined.
00:25:16.770 --> 00:25:20.290
And also there are indications
of their communication
00:25:20.290 --> 00:25:22.410
with the local government.
00:25:22.410 --> 00:25:25.970
And one area that we
00:25:25.970 --> 00:25:28.657
the a POU (indistinct)
the communication mind
00:25:36.050 --> 00:25:40.280
between the POUs and the IOUs.
00:25:40.280 --> 00:25:43.810
And we'll also include
the CCAs in there as well
00:25:43.810 --> 00:25:46.550
because it seemed that
00:25:46.550 --> 00:25:51.550
this feedback wasn't
necessarily getting reported.
00:25:51.910 --> 00:25:52.950
And we wanna make sure
00:25:52.950 --> 00:25:56.990
that there are smooth and
timely lines of communication.
00:25:56.990 --> 00:26:01.193
So having these particular
sections is really helpful.
00:26:02.390 --> 00:26:03.223
So, thanks.
00:26:07.290 --> 00:26:08.343
I appreciate that.
00:26:09.514 --> 00:26:11.330
I appreciate that observation.
00:26:11.330 --> 00:26:12.163
It is.
00:26:12.163 --> 00:26:16.760
It's fascinating to me because
when I was a city manager
00:26:16.760 --> 00:26:18.640
the police and fire tell the utility
00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:20.580
while we want 15 minutes notice for this
00:26:20.580 --> 00:26:22.290
we want two hours notice for this.
00:26:22.290 --> 00:26:24.223
And before utility has gone up,
00:26:25.230 --> 00:26:29.950
okay I'm telling you it's
a strong maybe which
00:26:29.950 --> 00:26:32.280
definitely makes
it difficult for report.
00:26:32.280 --> 00:26:35.343
I understand where the eyes are are at.
00:26:37.380 --> 00:26:39.640
Diane you were having
some communication difficulty.
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:41.213
Did I cut you off too early?
00:26:46.290 --> 00:26:47.453
Diane, can you hear me?
00:26:55.887 --> 00:26:56.923
Hmm, hang on.
00:26:56.923 --> 00:26:58.183
I'm texting her real quick.
00:27:02.170 --> 00:27:03.003
Okay.
00:27:03.003 --> 00:27:04.000
Well Diane will raise her hand
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:08.310
if she has something else
or I cut her off too, too quickly.
00:27:08.310 --> 00:27:11.090
Let me go through
pictures of the board and see
00:27:11.090 --> 00:27:14.193
if there's anyone else that
has questions on the template.
00:27:16.870 --> 00:27:19.070
Okay, seeing none.
00:27:19.070 --> 00:27:22.830
I'm assuming Barry, that
as we put this into use
00:27:22.830 --> 00:27:25.950
if we find areas of confusion or a hole
00:27:25.950 --> 00:27:29.090
that the (indistinct) community
could just fall back and
00:27:29.090 --> 00:27:30.490
and straighten it out
00:27:30.490 --> 00:27:31.710
because we're not gonna vote on this.
00:27:31.710 --> 00:27:34.489
This is just something
that the POU is so
00:27:34.489 --> 00:27:37.393
gracious enough to provide
us to help in the assessment.
00:27:39.254 --> 00:27:43.030
And so if we, if they'll just
be amenable to changes,
00:27:43.030 --> 00:27:46.030
that would be great.
00:27:46.030 --> 00:27:46.863
Okay.
00:27:46.863 --> 00:27:48.160
Iterative process, yes.
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:49.580
It all is.
00:27:49.580 --> 00:27:51.823
I think I have Diane back again,
00:27:52.690 --> 00:27:54.380
chair, vice-chair Fellman.
00:27:54.380 --> 00:27:56.930
Did you get a chance to
finish or was there more to that.
00:27:56.930 --> 00:27:58.890
Seemed like there was more.
00:27:58.890 --> 00:27:59.760
There was, there is.
00:27:59.760 --> 00:28:00.593
Thank you.
00:28:01.638 --> 00:28:06.040
And I think I missed the
due to technical difficulties.
00:28:06.040 --> 00:28:07.440
I missed the discussion
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.430
but I think it follows in
with where we are now.
00:28:10.430 --> 00:28:12.960
And Mr. Moline, I was wondering
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:16.740
if you could give us a
ring through our advisors
00:28:16.740 --> 00:28:20.090
give us feedback on
what you found helpful
00:28:20.090 --> 00:28:23.560
and how we can improve
the communication directly
00:28:23.560 --> 00:28:25.810
with the POUs in coming up
00:28:26.988 --> 00:28:29.290
with mechanisms to fulfill our
00:28:29.290 --> 00:28:32.520
statutory responsibilities as well as
00:28:34.380 --> 00:28:35.890
completing, you know, and
00:28:35.890 --> 00:28:40.890
and recognizing the PLU responsibilities
00:28:40.890 --> 00:28:43.010
and governing board activities.
00:28:43.010 --> 00:28:44.110
So thank you for that.
00:28:46.350 --> 00:28:47.590
Sure, my pleasure.
00:28:47.590 --> 00:28:50.593
So you're, are you asking me
00:28:50.593 --> 00:28:53.693
if there's anything that
we want from the board?
00:28:56.190 --> 00:28:57.023
Yes,
00:28:58.243 --> 00:29:03.243
Probably the, one thing
that I think were all aware
00:29:04.660 --> 00:29:09.660
of is I is the individual
utilities are interested in
00:29:09.950 --> 00:29:13.830
getting feedback on their
plans, their individual plans.
00:29:13.830 --> 00:29:18.510
I know that's on your,
your long list of things to do
00:29:18.510 --> 00:29:20.330
and there's a lot of plans.
00:29:20.330 --> 00:29:23.450
And I know you've been
engaged in, doing that.
00:29:23.450 --> 00:29:26.643
And that's probably the only thing that
00:29:26.643 --> 00:29:28.853
that they would like to see over time.
00:29:30.620 --> 00:29:31.720
Thank you very much.
00:29:32.690 --> 00:29:35.523
We, we certainly agree.
00:29:36.700 --> 00:29:40.980
Part of our challenge now
is we only have so much staff
00:29:40.980 --> 00:29:43.350
in the individual reports will take
00:29:44.540 --> 00:29:48.100
much greater focus on
their part and on and on ours
00:29:48.100 --> 00:29:51.170
but it is absolutely something
we want to do to ensure
00:29:51.170 --> 00:29:53.100
that the work product is,
00:29:53.100 --> 00:29:55.130
is not just valuable, you know
00:29:55.130 --> 00:29:56.386
schematically across the group,
00:29:56.386 --> 00:29:59.490
but that individual utilities
00:29:59.490 --> 00:30:04.490
have their own commentary
that they can either support or
00:30:04.530 --> 00:30:05.893
or refuse no immune.
00:30:06.910 --> 00:30:09.860
Alright, if no one
else has any questions
00:30:09.860 --> 00:30:11.370
on this particular segment
00:30:11.370 --> 00:30:13.430
I would like to thank very, very much
00:30:13.430 --> 00:30:14.800
not only for his work on this,
00:30:14.800 --> 00:30:17.380
but his work in presentation.
00:30:17.380 --> 00:30:21.450
And I would like to move to
the Wildfire Safety Division.
00:30:21.450 --> 00:30:23.683
We're was Koko able to join us.
00:30:25.870 --> 00:30:28.180
I am here, if you can hear me
00:30:28.180 --> 00:30:29.570
Aha!, there you are.
00:30:29.570 --> 00:30:31.803
I didn't see your picture up to now.
00:30:32.870 --> 00:30:36.710
We would like to welcome Koko Tommasian.
00:30:36.710 --> 00:30:41.450
He's gonna discuss the
wildfire safety divisions activity.
00:30:41.450 --> 00:30:42.810
And again, Koko, thank you
00:30:42.810 --> 00:30:44.300
for taking the time to be here today.
00:30:44.300 --> 00:30:45.133
Go ahead.
00:30:46.560 --> 00:30:49.290
Now, thanks for the
board for inviting us
00:30:49.290 --> 00:30:52.780
and definitely appreciate
providing an update
00:30:52.780 --> 00:30:55.363
on the various
activities that I'll cover
00:30:55.363 --> 00:30:58.760
that the wildfire safety
division has been doing
00:30:58.760 --> 00:31:01.570
over the last several months to do.
00:31:01.570 --> 00:31:04.600
Before I get started want
to apologize ahead of time.
00:31:04.600 --> 00:31:06.720
If I get some ambient noise.
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:08.260
This is one of the handful
00:31:08.260 --> 00:31:10.817
of days that we get rain
here in Southern California.
00:31:10.817 --> 00:31:13.279
And I, my puppy woke up
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:14.930
from a nap and I can't put them outside.
00:31:14.930 --> 00:31:16.890
So I get some ambient noise.
00:31:16.890 --> 00:31:18.480
I will try my best to work through it
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:19.980
but I apologize ahead of time.
00:31:21.320 --> 00:31:23.680
With that, if we can move forward
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:25.410
I don't know who's advancing the slides,
00:31:25.410 --> 00:31:27.453
but next slide,
00:31:28.980 --> 00:31:30.930
we can get into the next slide as well.
00:31:32.950 --> 00:31:35.330
So I'll provide you guys an update
00:31:35.330 --> 00:31:37.880
on various activities from the
00:31:39.140 --> 00:31:44.993
WSC perspective, and I
will cover several things.
00:31:45.933 --> 00:31:49.170
One is an update on
our compliance process
00:31:49.170 --> 00:31:50.833
and operational protocols.
00:31:51.740 --> 00:31:53.560
Another is the safety culture
00:31:53.560 --> 00:31:56.040
assessment requirements and process.
00:31:56.040 --> 00:31:59.343
And then finally, I will
cover a couple of things.
00:32:00.179 --> 00:32:03.550
One is the division's
transition to the office
00:32:03.550 --> 00:32:05.700
of energy infrastructure safety,
00:32:05.700 --> 00:32:07.960
and finally a request
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.960
from the division to the board
for comments on 2021 WMP.
00:32:13.060 --> 00:32:14.763
So with that next slide, please.
00:32:17.978 --> 00:32:20.890
So I'll cover the WSD compliance process
00:32:20.890 --> 00:32:23.303
and operational protocols here.
00:32:25.090 --> 00:32:26.424
There are a lot, there's
a lot to cover here
00:32:26.424 --> 00:32:30.190
and I'm going to provide
a really high level briefing
00:32:31.580 --> 00:32:34.800
and welcome any questions
and happy to point folks
00:32:36.364 --> 00:32:40.360
into additional resources
as for further information.
00:32:40.360 --> 00:32:45.360
So by AB 1054, the
division is required to develop
00:32:45.530 --> 00:32:50.530
and adopt and approve a WMP
compliance process annually.
00:32:51.490 --> 00:32:54.653
And so next slide, please.
00:32:57.760 --> 00:33:00.410
With the issuance
00:33:00.410 --> 00:33:04.400
this past November of resolution WSD-012
00:33:06.736 --> 00:33:10.790
the WSD actually issued our
first annual compliance process.
00:33:10.790 --> 00:33:14.610
And in that resolution, WSD-012
00:33:14.610 --> 00:33:16.700
we provide a high level overview
00:33:16.700 --> 00:33:20.030
of the components and the
WMP compliance process.
00:33:21.080 --> 00:33:23.070
And this is in order
to provide utilities
00:33:23.070 --> 00:33:26.270
with more detail on what
they're expected to report
00:33:26.270 --> 00:33:29.503
to WSD for compliance
purposes, as well as the
00:33:31.176 --> 00:33:35.150
the WSC prepared a
compliance operational protocols
00:33:35.150 --> 00:33:38.850
which was released this
past February last month
00:33:38.850 --> 00:33:41.900
to provide some additional details on
00:33:41.900 --> 00:33:44.100
for the utilities on that as well.
00:33:44.100 --> 00:33:45.740
Next slide, please.
00:33:45.740 --> 00:33:48.413
Hey Koko, can I
ask a quick question?
00:33:48.413 --> 00:33:52.040
On the previous slide is all
00:33:52.040 --> 00:33:55.160
of that information and the,
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:57.920
the quantifiable aspects of,
00:33:57.920 --> 00:33:59.190
the operational protocols
00:33:59.190 --> 00:34:00.780
is that all available online?
00:34:00.780 --> 00:34:05.780
Can the publicly-owned
agencies and the, the co-op see it?
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:07.553
Absolutely.
00:34:07.553 --> 00:34:08.604
So resolution WSD-012,
00:34:08.604 --> 00:34:13.604
as well as any attachments
are all posted on the WS
00:34:14.460 --> 00:34:15.440
can be accessed through
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:20.153
the Wildfire Safety Division
webpage cpuc.ca.gov/wsab
00:34:25.040 --> 00:34:26.290
And then from that page
00:34:26.290 --> 00:34:29.350
you can get to the compliance webpage
00:34:29.350 --> 00:34:33.050
which has all the operational
protocols and so forth.
00:34:33.050 --> 00:34:34.770
Okay, so that
has it literally like
00:34:34.770 --> 00:34:36.680
in a chart form that people can
00:34:36.680 --> 00:34:40.490
can arguably compare where
comparisons are appropriate
00:34:41.560 --> 00:34:43.600
Right, and we are also,
00:34:43.600 --> 00:34:45.180
the division does publish
00:34:45.180 --> 00:34:47.610
or we just began a monthly
00:34:47.610 --> 00:34:49.410
kind of division reports
00:34:49.410 --> 00:34:51.880
which include some outcomes
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:52.893
and statistics relevant
to our compliance work,
00:34:52.893 --> 00:34:57.755
as well as our mitigation
work, but it's compliance as well.
00:34:57.755 --> 00:34:58.588
Okay.
00:34:58.588 --> 00:34:59.690
I would, I would ask quickly
00:34:59.690 --> 00:35:02.920
and I hope Barry that
you're still on somewhere.
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:04.810
You know, ultimately the discussion
00:35:04.810 --> 00:35:07.790
of compliance with
operational protocols is going to
00:35:07.790 --> 00:35:12.790
bridge the investor owned
and publicly owned community.
00:35:13.090 --> 00:35:15.700
And I would respectfully request
00:35:15.700 --> 00:35:18.580
that they be publicly owned utilities
00:35:18.580 --> 00:35:21.160
start taking a look at the IOUs and
00:35:21.160 --> 00:35:25.640
and thinking through what
compliance thresholds are
00:35:25.640 --> 00:35:29.290
in potentially aren't
appropriate given the types
00:35:29.290 --> 00:35:31.610
of systems that, that
all of you are running
00:35:31.610 --> 00:35:33.680
but it's a good time to start looking
00:35:33.680 --> 00:35:36.440
at this rather than, than later.
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:39.290
So, sorry that Koko, please go ahead.
00:35:39.290 --> 00:35:41.590
No, absolutely, you're
welcome, any questions?
00:35:41.590 --> 00:35:42.423
Thanks for that.
00:35:43.590 --> 00:35:48.140
So, WSD-012, it was
kept pretty high level.
00:35:48.140 --> 00:35:51.480
It detailed components of
the overall compliance process
00:35:52.490 --> 00:35:54.350
and those are compliance assessments
00:35:54.350 --> 00:35:57.373
and then essentially
consequences for non-compliance.
00:35:58.580 --> 00:36:00.400
The compliance assessments include
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:04.100
both annual and ongoing assessments.
00:36:04.100 --> 00:36:05.500
So the WSD is required
00:36:05.500 --> 00:36:09.480
by statute to produce an annual report
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:12.370
on compliance or what we call an ARC.
00:36:12.370 --> 00:36:14.353
And that's an annual assessment
00:36:14.353 --> 00:36:16.930
of each utility's
compliance with their WMP.
00:36:16.930 --> 00:36:18.400
And then in addition to that,
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:21.020
we also do an annual audit
00:36:21.020 --> 00:36:23.560
of utility substantial
veg management work
00:36:23.560 --> 00:36:26.803
which is required by statute as well.
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:29.317
In addition to that
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:32.630
there are ongoing
assessments that take place
00:36:32.630 --> 00:36:34.350
which are conducted throughout the year
00:36:34.350 --> 00:36:37.076
and those are happening in the form
00:36:37.076 --> 00:36:39.790
of both field inspections and audits
00:36:39.790 --> 00:36:42.485
and the results of
those we share publicly
00:36:42.485 --> 00:36:45.020
via our monthly performance reports,
00:36:45.020 --> 00:36:46.840
which I was alluding to in response
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:48.090
to the previous question.
00:36:49.330 --> 00:36:50.420
Yeah. Part of, part
00:36:50.420 --> 00:36:52.720
of what I'm trying to
think, not think through
00:36:53.835 --> 00:36:55.410
I'm trying to kind of
advanced communicate
00:36:55.410 --> 00:36:58.120
without having vetted this
through the balance of the board.
00:36:58.120 --> 00:36:59.340
So please excuse me.
00:36:59.340 --> 00:37:02.910
But the, the municipal being
00:37:02.910 --> 00:37:07.710
non-jurisdictional entities
are separate from this review.
00:37:07.710 --> 00:37:12.360
And my, my hope is that
they will also surface instances
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.040
of potential non-compliance
and then discuss
00:37:15.040 --> 00:37:18.120
to what extent that is reviewed
00:37:18.120 --> 00:37:20.370
or any enforcement
actions that are taken
00:37:20.370 --> 00:37:23.293
via their own boards and city councils.
00:37:24.270 --> 00:37:27.258
But I think it's very useful,
the level of oversight.
00:37:27.258 --> 00:37:30.690
I just want to ensure
munies are looking at
00:37:30.690 --> 00:37:33.060
potentially replicating something where
00:37:33.957 --> 00:37:35.518
they do have oversight
00:37:35.518 --> 00:37:37.318
and reporting responsibility outside
00:37:38.210 --> 00:37:40.050
of the utility itself.
00:37:40.050 --> 00:37:42.690
And I, I know that
certainly some do already
00:37:42.690 --> 00:37:46.500
but specific to wildfire
management would be
00:37:46.500 --> 00:37:47.690
would be very viable.
00:37:47.690 --> 00:37:49.810
And again, Koko sorry,
I'm stepping on you.
00:37:49.810 --> 00:37:50.980
Go ahead.
00:37:50.980 --> 00:37:52.740
No, not at all.
00:37:52.740 --> 00:37:54.570
I'm actually taking
notes as you're speaking.
00:37:54.570 --> 00:37:57.770
So I appreciate the input and insight.
00:37:57.770 --> 00:38:02.770
And then finally, just as far
as it goes to consequences
00:38:03.270 --> 00:38:06.330
the WFD is also responsible
for working with utilities to
00:38:06.330 --> 00:38:09.970
resolve instances of
non-compliance with the WMP.
00:38:09.970 --> 00:38:13.100
And this effort is done
in close coordination
00:38:13.100 --> 00:38:16.800
with the safety enforcement
division of the CPC.
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:20.330
Should there be any sort of
potential enforcement action
00:38:20.330 --> 00:38:24.150
that the WSC would would like to pursue.
00:38:24.150 --> 00:38:25.883
So with that next slide.
00:38:30.940 --> 00:38:33.510
So the compliance operational protocols
00:38:33.510 --> 00:38:35.810
those were released in February
00:38:35.810 --> 00:38:39.350
and that document
really provides the utilities
00:38:39.350 --> 00:38:42.563
with more detailed
instructions regarding reporting,
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:47.563
as well as sorry, we've
already compliance reporting.
00:38:48.627 --> 00:38:51.690
And the goal of that in
the detailed instruction is to
00:38:51.690 --> 00:38:56.690
improve standardization
and improve quality of data
00:38:57.270 --> 00:39:00.620
and communication between
the division and utilities
00:39:00.620 --> 00:39:02.430
as well as streamline those efforts.
00:39:02.430 --> 00:39:07.420
So as to not create as
many kind of back and forth
00:39:07.420 --> 00:39:08.810
or unnecessary back and forth.
00:39:08.810 --> 00:39:12.020
And so we have some
clear lines of expectations
00:39:12.020 --> 00:39:14.420
and communications,
and obviously, you know
00:39:14.420 --> 00:39:17.660
these processes are really
in their nascent stages.
00:39:17.660 --> 00:39:22.260
And so they're being developed
and fleshed out in real time.
00:39:22.260 --> 00:39:23.980
But, and this is just happened
00:39:23.980 --> 00:39:26.520
you know, in the last several weeks.
00:39:26.520 --> 00:39:28.460
Yeah, now everybody
is working on the plane
00:39:28.460 --> 00:39:30.350
while they're flying it.
00:39:30.350 --> 00:39:31.370
Absolutely.
00:39:31.370 --> 00:39:35.126
That's one of our go-to
mottos here in WSP.
00:39:35.126 --> 00:39:38.083
So next slide please.
00:39:41.490 --> 00:39:44.600
And so here is just an overview of kind
00:39:44.600 --> 00:39:47.600
of some of the reporting
requirements that are found
00:39:47.600 --> 00:39:51.270
in the responsive to
the compliance process.
00:39:51.270 --> 00:39:54.160
You have the quarterly advice letter
00:39:54.160 --> 00:39:57.123
which is a statutorily mandated,
00:39:58.610 --> 00:39:59.443
and it provides updates
00:39:59.443 --> 00:40:04.340
on WMP initiative
implementation as well as
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:09.603
is a requirement for
a safety certificate.
00:40:10.670 --> 00:40:12.170
In addition to that
00:40:12.170 --> 00:40:15.290
we have the quarterly initiative update
00:40:15.290 --> 00:40:19.860
which is an aggregated Excel format,
00:40:19.860 --> 00:40:23.280
annual targets both
quantitative and qualitative
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:26.050
of all the initiatives in the WMP
00:40:26.050 --> 00:40:28.610
and then expected quarterly progress
00:40:28.610 --> 00:40:30.830
with those quarterly submissions along
00:40:30.830 --> 00:40:35.540
with cumulative progress
throughout the year.
00:40:35.540 --> 00:40:37.670
In addition to that, and I know I've
00:40:39.876 --> 00:40:40.709
I've brief at least a subset
00:40:42.098 --> 00:40:44.970
of the board on our efforts
on our quarterly data reports
00:40:44.970 --> 00:40:49.410
which contain both our spatial
and non spatial data table.
00:40:49.410 --> 00:40:52.870
And that really is intended
to provide additional
00:40:52.870 --> 00:40:56.470
context relative to WMP initiative,
00:40:56.470 --> 00:40:57.540
both in progress
00:40:57.540 --> 00:41:01.193
and also kind of geospatial
location or information.
00:41:02.630 --> 00:41:04.810
And then finally, as I mentioned earlier
00:41:04.810 --> 00:41:09.120
you have the additional
statutorily mandated reporting
00:41:09.120 --> 00:41:11.890
on annual report for compliance.
00:41:11.890 --> 00:41:14.260
And that's just an annual
summary of the field
00:41:14.260 --> 00:41:16.563
of compliance with its WMP.
00:41:18.170 --> 00:41:20.393
Well, we can go on to
the next slide please.
00:41:23.142 --> 00:41:24.920
Before we hit
the safety culture
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.572
before we hit the safety
culture assessments
00:41:27.572 --> 00:41:30.796
we could back up one, just a reminder
00:41:30.796 --> 00:41:31.920
to those that are not
familiar with the role
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:36.430
of the board who were
created statutorily to provide
00:41:36.430 --> 00:41:39.810
on the one hand, advice to
the Wildfire Safety Division
00:41:39.810 --> 00:41:42.430
with respect to the
investor-owned utilities
00:41:42.430 --> 00:41:44.490
and their wildfire plan
00:41:44.490 --> 00:41:49.490
and separately to provide
advice directly to the municipal
00:41:49.580 --> 00:41:54.580
and co-op sectors on their
wildfire mitigation plans,
00:41:55.890 --> 00:41:57.763
which we have been doing.
00:41:58.720 --> 00:42:02.550
I do believe that to the extent
00:42:02.550 --> 00:42:06.510
of publicly-owned utilities
create their own review
00:42:07.625 --> 00:42:10.040
and potential enforcement structure
00:42:10.040 --> 00:42:13.140
that they can use
with their policy bodies.
00:42:13.140 --> 00:42:14.660
I think that will help in
00:42:15.520 --> 00:42:17.570
precluding someone coming in and saying,
00:42:17.570 --> 00:42:19.250
oh, you know what you need to do.
00:42:19.250 --> 00:42:22.890
I think it's better than
utilities get their own
00:42:22.890 --> 00:42:25.770
in place and this does
provide a great template
00:42:26.610 --> 00:42:29.080
and similar to geos, which, you know,
00:42:29.080 --> 00:42:32.800
publicly-owned utilities are
arguably not jurisdictional too
00:42:33.650 --> 00:42:36.370
but some of them are
(indistinct) good ideas.
00:42:36.370 --> 00:42:37.960
So it's similar to that.
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:40.880
I just want to encourage
the POU sector again,
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:43.060
to look at what's in place
00:42:43.060 --> 00:42:45.840
and consider what their
interpretation would be
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:48.260
in potentially how to put that in place.
00:42:48.260 --> 00:42:49.163
Thanks Koko.
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:51.793
Thank you.
00:42:52.730 --> 00:42:56.610
So we can advance, we
can go forward two slides.
00:42:56.610 --> 00:42:59.850
I'll kind of cover safety
culture assessments
00:43:00.967 --> 00:43:02.515
or you'll hear me or us refer
00:43:02.515 --> 00:43:04.065
to them often as SCA for short.
00:43:06.660 --> 00:43:08.330
So the final safety culture
assessment requirements
00:43:08.330 --> 00:43:12.310
were finalized and
released in January of 2021.
00:43:12.310 --> 00:43:15.900
So once again, all relatively fresh
00:43:15.900 --> 00:43:17.240
just like I was mentioning
00:43:18.631 --> 00:43:21.720
with the compliance
operational protocols.
00:43:21.720 --> 00:43:26.720
And the WSD's goal really
with the SCA requirements
00:43:26.720 --> 00:43:29.590
is to ensure that safety
culture is embedded
00:43:29.590 --> 00:43:33.580
in situations most
relevant to wildfire risks.
00:43:33.580 --> 00:43:38.340
And furthermore, the
WSD's SCA really aims to
00:43:38.340 --> 00:43:41.750
set a new standard for SCA
via sharing of best practices
00:43:41.750 --> 00:43:45.270
which is something we
consider an important aspect
00:43:45.270 --> 00:43:49.190
of driving forward improvement in
00:43:49.190 --> 00:43:51.513
in this space in the utility sector.
00:43:52.549 --> 00:43:55.880
Are the investor
utilities required to have
00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:58.217
safety committees by the PUC?
00:44:00.120 --> 00:44:05.120
Yeah, so there are as
part of the safety culture
00:44:05.190 --> 00:44:07.890
or I'm sorry, safety
certificate requirements.
00:44:07.890 --> 00:44:11.750
There are a board of
directors level reporting
00:44:11.750 --> 00:44:15.470
on with safety committee
and safety progress
00:44:16.660 --> 00:44:19.607
as well and I was
actually gonna cover this
00:44:19.607 --> 00:44:21.240
in the next slide.
00:44:21.240 --> 00:44:24.800
There is separate from this WSD's
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:27.203
annual safety culture process.
00:44:28.330 --> 00:44:32.450
There is also another
statutorily mandated safety
00:44:32.450 --> 00:44:36.520
culture assessment process
that's done on a five-year cycle.
00:44:36.520 --> 00:44:40.090
That really looks (dog bucks)
00:44:40.090 --> 00:44:42.173
(laughs)
00:44:44.656 --> 00:44:48.220
that really looks more
holistically at the culture process.
00:44:48.220 --> 00:44:50.070
(dog bucks)
00:44:50.070 --> 00:44:52.070
Yeah, I would like
to comment on this,
00:44:53.587 --> 00:44:55.240
the DWP put a lot of money
00:44:55.240 --> 00:44:57.890
and effort into safety,
culture assessments,
00:44:57.890 --> 00:45:00.240
and I hope that there
was some communication
00:45:00.240 --> 00:45:02.391
back and forth with them
00:45:02.391 --> 00:45:03.620
and your developmental phases,
00:45:03.620 --> 00:45:05.750
because just, they put
00:45:05.750 --> 00:45:07.100
they just put a ton into it.
00:45:07.100 --> 00:45:09.480
And I think there's
lessons learned from that,
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:13.760
that the division might benefit from.
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:15.023
So just think about that.
00:45:18.600 --> 00:45:19.850
No, we appreciate that.
00:45:21.650 --> 00:45:24.190
(dog bucks)
00:45:24.190 --> 00:45:26.890
And my apologies for the
00:45:26.890 --> 00:45:28.940
the ambient noise in
the background here.
00:45:30.010 --> 00:45:31.150
I'll be (indistinct)
With it Koko
00:45:31.150 --> 00:45:32.210
Don't worry about it.
00:45:32.210 --> 00:45:33.043
Believe me.
00:45:35.401 --> 00:45:37.650
Yeah, it was fortuitous timing
00:45:37.650 --> 00:45:40.913
as someone rang the
doorbell which set the dog up.
00:45:42.190 --> 00:45:43.503
Okay, next slide please.
00:45:46.450 --> 00:45:48.700
And so this is what I
was mentioning earlier
00:45:48.700 --> 00:45:52.980
with the distinction
of safety culture efforts
00:45:55.100 --> 00:45:58.280
for the WSD you know,
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:01.810
one of the important things
is general safety culture
00:46:01.810 --> 00:46:05.910
processes may not necessarily
always cover all wildfire
00:46:05.910 --> 00:46:08.550
specific instances adequately.
00:46:08.550 --> 00:46:12.180
And so the goal of our FDA
process is really ensured
00:46:12.180 --> 00:46:15.010
that wildfire safety is
prioritized by focusing
00:46:15.010 --> 00:46:19.050
on instances like raising
wildfire hazard concern.
00:46:19.050 --> 00:46:23.300
And so those are really our efforts.
00:46:23.300 --> 00:46:26.120
And this has been an
ongoing process in collaboration
00:46:26.120 --> 00:46:29.053
with the CPC division
to work on this as well.
00:46:30.537 --> 00:46:33.100
It's really figuring
out how to reciprocate
00:46:33.100 --> 00:46:35.940
and focus our safety culture assessments
00:46:35.940 --> 00:46:38.840
which happen at a
much more frequent clip
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:42.541
right annually compared
to the five year CPC effort
00:46:42.541 --> 00:46:46.507
but as well as fit into
the broader process
00:46:46.507 --> 00:46:49.330
and not to necessarily
reinvent the wheel.
00:46:49.330 --> 00:46:50.223
Next slide.
00:46:53.380 --> 00:46:56.230
And so an important aspect
of that is to really recognize
00:46:57.193 --> 00:47:00.930
that not everything really
applies to all the utilities.
00:47:00.930 --> 00:47:05.930
And so I will talk about
this kind of generally
00:47:06.010 --> 00:47:10.062
but we've broken out kind
of requirements across.
00:47:10.062 --> 00:47:13.710
We've got the large, IOUs,
PGD Edison, San Diego
00:47:13.710 --> 00:47:16.160
we're presenting here
to the board today.
00:47:16.160 --> 00:47:19.450
And then we have our,
what we call SMJU small
00:47:19.450 --> 00:47:22.300
and multi-jurisdictional
utilities that consists
00:47:22.300 --> 00:47:27.210
of Pacific Corp Liberty and
bear Valley North to South.
00:47:27.210 --> 00:47:29.820
And then we have our
independent transmission operators.
00:47:29.820 --> 00:47:33.090
And so we've tried to not
00:47:34.900 --> 00:47:36.200
have blanket requirements
00:47:36.200 --> 00:47:37.930
that apply equally to everyone
00:47:37.930 --> 00:47:39.210
and try to be considerate
00:47:39.210 --> 00:47:41.810
of resources and expectations
00:47:41.810 --> 00:47:43.660
and operational capabilities
00:47:43.660 --> 00:47:46.990
of the different companies
that we're regulating.
00:47:46.990 --> 00:47:51.630
And so, as you see
here, the four components
00:47:51.630 --> 00:47:55.200
workforce survey
self-assessment and plan summary
00:47:55.200 --> 00:47:59.680
supporting documentation
applies to everyone or
00:48:00.700 --> 00:48:05.700
to all the large IOUs,
the small utilities are
00:48:05.940 --> 00:48:08.090
exempted currently
from the self assessment
00:48:09.044 --> 00:48:10.500
and plan a plan summary.
00:48:10.500 --> 00:48:13.450
And the ICO's currently
we're really focusing
00:48:13.450 --> 00:48:16.810
on trying to get
appropriate documentation.
00:48:16.810 --> 00:48:19.260
And then one of the
processes that's still kind
00:48:19.260 --> 00:48:24.260
of TBD is figuring out
interviews and how to potentially
00:48:24.700 --> 00:48:27.070
incorporate that into our
00:48:27.070 --> 00:48:28.820
culture assessment process as well.
00:48:30.250 --> 00:48:33.330
And so those are be kind
of on an as needed basis
00:48:33.330 --> 00:48:35.270
as determined by the division
00:48:35.270 --> 00:48:38.890
as a process, kind of
begins to unfold and
00:48:38.890 --> 00:48:39.723
be implemented.
00:48:40.770 --> 00:48:41.987
Next slide, please
00:48:43.370 --> 00:48:46.034
With that, I just want
to show you guys kind of
00:48:46.034 --> 00:48:47.990
this will be the last slide
I cover on safety culture
00:48:47.990 --> 00:48:52.010
but this is an overview
of the directional timeline.
00:48:52.010 --> 00:48:53.650
We released the final requirements
00:48:53.650 --> 00:48:58.000
in January of this year, in
late spring, this the deadline
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:00.700
for the electrical corporations
to submit responses
00:49:00.700 --> 00:49:05.700
to the requirements and
then in the summer of this year.
00:49:05.970 --> 00:49:10.740
So coming right off the
heels of our WMP reviews
00:49:10.740 --> 00:49:12.510
the we'll start beginning
00:49:13.379 --> 00:49:15.833
to conducting our first annual
safety culture assessment.
00:49:17.870 --> 00:49:19.087
Next slide please.
00:49:20.270 --> 00:49:23.210
And so with that, I
think this is an opportune
00:49:23.210 --> 00:49:25.070
like where is the safety culture process
00:49:25.070 --> 00:49:28.700
and really takes us into
this transitional period
00:49:28.700 --> 00:49:32.180
for the division, which
I'll talk about next.
00:49:32.180 --> 00:49:33.920
And I just want to
cover it kind of briefly
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:35.893
if we can go to the next slide please.
00:49:37.860 --> 00:49:41.287
And so per our enabling
legislation, AB 1054
00:49:41.287 --> 00:49:43.600
the division is scheduled to transition
00:49:43.600 --> 00:49:46.310
to the office of energy
infrastructure safety
00:49:46.310 --> 00:49:48.910
under the natural resources agency
00:49:48.910 --> 00:49:50.553
on July 1st of this year,
00:49:51.640 --> 00:49:53.240
as would be expected.
00:49:53.240 --> 00:49:55.960
This transition process
is extremely complex
00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:57.720
and it requires broad
00:49:57.720 --> 00:50:01.900
and extensive coordination
among a variety of stakeholders.
00:50:01.900 --> 00:50:06.350
And WSC is actively
engaged in discussions
00:50:06.350 --> 00:50:09.690
and partnerships with all
the relevant stakeholders.
00:50:09.690 --> 00:50:12.400
And currently we are expecting to be
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.490
on track to ensure a successful
00:50:15.490 --> 00:50:20.187
and complete transition
in July of this year to OES.
00:50:21.370 --> 00:50:25.860
And so I wanted to underscore
that as an important aspect
00:50:25.860 --> 00:50:30.467
of the work that we're currently
undertaking because 2021.
00:50:30.467 --> 00:50:35.467
And we knew that dating
back to 2020 was going to be a
00:50:35.560 --> 00:50:37.250
an odd year for us halfway
00:50:37.250 --> 00:50:39.720
through the year we
transitioned to another agency.
00:50:39.720 --> 00:50:42.870
We've been making
preparations to support that
00:50:42.870 --> 00:50:44.510
for many months in advance.
00:50:44.510 --> 00:50:46.650
And we're hopeful that all
00:50:46.650 --> 00:50:49.277
of those advanced efforts will lead
00:50:49.277 --> 00:50:52.990
to a very successful
transition in the coming month.
00:50:52.990 --> 00:50:54.053
So next slide.
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:02.320
One thing that I do want to
also cover is I'm sure obviously
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:05.460
the board is well aware
that we had the large
00:51:05.460 --> 00:51:06.990
electrical corporations file,
00:51:06.990 --> 00:51:10.980
their 2021 WMP update on February 5th.
00:51:10.980 --> 00:51:15.980
And we received supplemental
filings from the large IOUs
00:51:16.470 --> 00:51:19.270
last Friday, February 26th.
00:51:19.270 --> 00:51:20.440
The division is currently
00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:24.917
processing and analyzing
and evaluating those 2021
00:51:25.919 --> 00:51:26.752
WMP submissions.
00:51:26.752 --> 00:51:28.710
We're working closely with Cal Fire
00:51:29.660 --> 00:51:31.500
our Cal Fire colleagues we're also
00:51:31.500 --> 00:51:34.770
actively engaging with the utilities to
00:51:34.770 --> 00:51:37.430
resolve any open
questions or get clarification
00:51:38.871 --> 00:51:40.420
on various matters.
00:51:40.420 --> 00:51:43.830
And with that, you know,
the division really greatly
00:51:43.830 --> 00:51:46.990
values the board's input and
guidance on these matters.
00:51:46.990 --> 00:51:50.631
And so I would like to
take this opportunity to
00:51:50.631 --> 00:51:55.631
formally request the board
input on the 2021 WMT updates
00:51:57.450 --> 00:52:00.230
for our consideration as we move forward
00:52:00.230 --> 00:52:03.487
with our evaluation
in, in coming forward
00:52:03.487 --> 00:52:06.793
And like a week and
a half to review them.
00:52:07.713 --> 00:52:10.300
I mean, it's, it's eight
inches of solid paper.
00:52:10.300 --> 00:52:15.300
Not that I printed out my do,
but, but Catherine or Aaliyah
00:52:15.560 --> 00:52:18.123
do you know what the
deadline is for us to respond?
00:52:20.940 --> 00:52:22.840
The Wildfire
wildfire Safety Division
00:52:23.937 --> 00:52:25.520
has requested the end of March.
00:52:25.520 --> 00:52:29.320
And so we have, you know, let them know
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:32.670
we will have a draft by then and the,
00:52:32.670 --> 00:52:35.820
you know, and not, we
haven't announced this yet,
00:52:35.820 --> 00:52:38.080
but the, we're planning on having
00:52:38.080 --> 00:52:40.093
a board meeting on April 7th.
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:44.310
And so that would be the date that the
00:52:45.364 --> 00:52:48.113
hopefully the board
would vote on the final.
00:52:49.628 --> 00:52:53.460
And do you have a deadline
to the board on when you need
00:52:53.460 --> 00:52:56.610
you and me need their
feedback to be completed
00:52:56.610 --> 00:53:00.083
so that you can organize
it, et cetera, et cetera.
00:53:01.220 --> 00:53:02.053
Yes.
00:53:04.822 --> 00:53:06.547
What is that date?
00:53:06.547 --> 00:53:07.510
(laughs)
00:53:07.510 --> 00:53:12.510
So we had, we requested
any written feedback by this week
00:53:13.810 --> 00:53:17.030
for board members, and then
we'll be scheduling meetings
00:53:17.030 --> 00:53:21.223
with the individual (indistinct)
groups for next week.
00:53:22.710 --> 00:53:27.240
Okay, just wanted to
underscore the board that you're
00:53:27.240 --> 00:53:29.720
you should be spending your
free time reading those things
00:53:29.720 --> 00:53:32.370
and getting your comments
ready for your (indistinct) groups
00:53:32.370 --> 00:53:35.020
and any highlights you need to,
00:53:35.020 --> 00:53:36.940
you need to move forward.
00:53:36.940 --> 00:53:38.870
I also want to give it a little bit
00:53:38.870 --> 00:53:41.470
on KoKo's comments about the transition.
00:53:41.470 --> 00:53:43.170
It does beg the question.
00:53:43.170 --> 00:53:45.063
What about the wildfire
Safety Advisory Board?
00:53:45.063 --> 00:53:46.263
What are you guys doing?
00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:50.300
We believe that we were going
00:53:50.300 --> 00:53:54.000
along with the Wildfire
Safety Division to,
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:55.493
oh, yeah, yeah.
00:53:56.940 --> 00:54:00.960
There are discussions about
the placement of the board.
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:05.620
It has been not a concern.
00:54:05.620 --> 00:54:06.720
It has been an issue.
00:54:06.720 --> 00:54:08.750
Certainly the vice chair has brought it
00:54:08.750 --> 00:54:11.970
up about maintaining the
independence of the board.
00:54:11.970 --> 00:54:13.663
And so it's important
00:54:13.663 --> 00:54:17.730
that we not get too
far buried into the BSB.
00:54:17.730 --> 00:54:20.780
Though, we always appreciate
their help and support and
00:54:20.780 --> 00:54:22.683
and capabilities that they
00:54:22.683 --> 00:54:25.210
that they have in reviewing
all this information.
00:54:25.210 --> 00:54:28.417
But we do want to ensure
that people look at us as,
00:54:28.417 --> 00:54:32.860
as an independent resource
providing suggestions and
00:54:32.860 --> 00:54:34.450
and input.
00:54:34.450 --> 00:54:36.923
And the second thing we
ask is like many agencies.
00:54:36.923 --> 00:54:40.060
We have the two analysts and so much
00:54:40.060 --> 00:54:42.717
of our work has been
done by the board members.
00:54:42.717 --> 00:54:45.550
And it's really appreciated,
but it's been quite extensive.
00:54:45.550 --> 00:54:48.110
We have asked for additional staff.
00:54:48.110 --> 00:54:51.280
I don't know if that will
come to fruition or not
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:52.620
but we have requested it.
00:54:52.620 --> 00:54:53.743
So those are the two.
00:54:54.610 --> 00:54:58.150
And of course we don't have
any money for the move at all
00:54:58.150 --> 00:55:00.870
because that was never
anything that was allocated to us.
00:55:00.870 --> 00:55:04.340
And so we are working on that too.
00:55:04.340 --> 00:55:07.360
These I know are all
administrative issues
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:10.450
that the audience is perhaps
not all that interested in
00:55:10.450 --> 00:55:11.750
but I did want you to know
00:55:13.186 --> 00:55:15.853
about the aspects of
the board transition.
00:55:17.290 --> 00:55:20.379
Let's see, do we,
Koko where are you?
00:55:20.379 --> 00:55:22.550
Are you wrapping up or did I cut you up?
00:55:22.550 --> 00:55:26.770
No, my, my last next
slide is a thank you slide.
00:55:26.770 --> 00:55:29.375
And I thought I would
like to thank the board
00:55:29.375 --> 00:55:32.440
for your time and
opportunity to present here
00:55:33.819 --> 00:55:34.740
to you today is the board will oblige.
00:55:34.740 --> 00:55:37.870
I would like to make
one last announcement
00:55:37.870 --> 00:55:42.550
and that's to note that
our program manager
00:55:42.550 --> 00:55:43.870
Melissa Spencer will be
00:55:43.870 --> 00:55:46.520
on leave for the next several months.
00:55:46.520 --> 00:55:50.950
And so temporarily filling
her role while Melissa is out
00:55:50.950 --> 00:55:53.840
will be our new acting program manager.
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:55.180
Her name is Lucy Morgan
00:55:56.260 --> 00:55:59.100
and I'm sure you will
all get to know her better
00:55:59.100 --> 00:55:59.933
in the coming months,
00:55:59.933 --> 00:56:01.437
but I just didn't want to put that
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:03.153
on the board's radar as well.
00:56:04.200 --> 00:56:06.050
Great, so she's
an interim for that.
00:56:06.050 --> 00:56:08.230
And then Melissa should theoretically
00:56:08.230 --> 00:56:10.363
regain her spot when she gets back.
00:56:11.210 --> 00:56:14.970
Correct, we're expecting
the list of back in October.
00:56:14.970 --> 00:56:17.440
Okay, wonderful, wonderful.
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:18.970
I wanna see if the board members
00:56:18.970 --> 00:56:21.490
have any questions or
comments with respect
00:56:21.490 --> 00:56:22.963
to the presentation.
00:56:24.810 --> 00:56:26.493
Looking through here quickly.
00:56:30.240 --> 00:56:33.190
I don't see that they have
any additional questions
00:56:33.190 --> 00:56:35.560
Koko we really
appreciate it, particularly
00:56:35.560 --> 00:56:38.230
because so much of our
information is incremental.
00:56:38.230 --> 00:56:40.990
That it's very helpful sometimes
to get a broader picture
00:56:40.990 --> 00:56:42.853
of what's happening.
00:56:44.145 --> 00:56:45.190
And we certainly appreciate that.
00:56:45.190 --> 00:56:47.390
So thank you very much.
00:56:47.390 --> 00:56:49.963
Thank you chair, I
appreciate the time.
00:56:53.140 --> 00:56:56.600
Moving all the way
to our stretch break.
00:56:56.600 --> 00:56:57.433
Leah.
00:56:59.080 --> 00:57:00.760
Thank you chair Edwards.
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:02.390
Welcome to our stretch break.
00:57:02.390 --> 00:57:04.270
I encourage everyone to stand
00:57:04.270 --> 00:57:07.650
up to turn off your video
stretch, move around
00:57:07.650 --> 00:57:12.650
should get some water
and we will return at 2:15.
00:57:17.068 --> 00:57:19.250
2:15, excellent.
00:57:19.250 --> 00:57:22.570
I will again remind the board
to hit mute on your phones
00:57:22.570 --> 00:57:25.910
and turn your cameras
off for the period of time.
00:57:25.910 --> 00:57:28.050
And I will see you
all back here at 2:15.
00:57:33.590 --> 00:57:35.290
Please press star one
00:57:36.206 --> 00:57:38.700
on your phone and record
your name and organization.
00:57:38.700 --> 00:57:41.190
Clearly when prompted,
you will be placed
00:57:41.190 --> 00:57:45.040
into a queue in the order that
you have identified yourself.
00:57:45.040 --> 00:57:47.210
When it comes time for you to speak
00:57:47.210 --> 00:57:50.370
I will announce your name
and I will open your line.
00:57:50.370 --> 00:57:53.070
You will have one and
a half minutes to speak
00:57:53.070 --> 00:57:56.300
to withdraw your
question, press star two.
00:57:56.300 --> 00:57:59.411
Please note that we are
expecting a high volume of callers.
00:57:59.411 --> 00:58:02.594
If we do not get to you
right away to take your name
00:58:02.594 --> 00:58:05.338
please be patient and stay on line.
00:58:05.338 --> 00:58:07.921
(upbeat music)
00:59:03.240 --> 00:59:04.073
Thank you ladies.
00:59:04.073 --> 00:59:05.320
I appreciate that.
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:07.540
I'm going to move to
our next agenda item
00:59:08.580 --> 00:59:11.270
and I would like to welcome
investor and utilities.
00:59:11.270 --> 00:59:16.270
And again, thank all of
them for, for joining us today.
00:59:16.530 --> 00:59:17.750
We're gonna have representatives
00:59:17.750 --> 00:59:20.330
from San Diego gas
and electric, Pacific gas
00:59:21.991 --> 00:59:23.900
and electric and
Southern California Edison
00:59:23.900 --> 00:59:28.620
on overviews of their 2021 WMT updates.
00:59:28.620 --> 00:59:31.870
We hope that this will be
useful information for all
00:59:31.870 --> 00:59:34.743
of the interested stakeholders.
00:59:35.950 --> 00:59:37.343
For our board members.
00:59:38.615 --> 00:59:40.240
(indistinct) clarifying question.
00:59:40.240 --> 00:59:43.270
Obviously I'm talking to
myself more than anyone
00:59:43.270 --> 00:59:45.880
and if you have more
questions after the presentation
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:47.820
we can write them down
00:59:47.820 --> 00:59:50.540
and ensure that they are
transmitted to the utility.
00:59:50.540 --> 00:59:54.133
So we'll make sure we get
all of your questions answered.
00:59:55.030 --> 00:59:59.210
And, and Jonathan, I
always water your name.
00:59:59.210 --> 01:00:00.550
So I'm going to leave it to you
01:00:00.550 --> 01:00:02.050
to correctly pronounce your name
01:00:02.050 --> 01:00:04.810
as a Director with Wildfire
Mitigation & Vegetation
01:00:04.810 --> 01:00:07.353
Management, San Diego Gas and Electric.
01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:10.563
You're there Jonathan.
01:00:11.460 --> 01:00:13.914
I'm here thank
you chair Edwards.
01:00:13.914 --> 01:00:14.760
I appreciate the introduction.
01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:17.027
My name is Jonathan Waldermariam,
01:00:17.868 --> 01:00:19.318
Waldermariam, Waldermariam.
01:00:20.690 --> 01:00:22.304
I get it.
01:00:22.304 --> 01:00:23.137
Yeah, that's good.
01:00:23.137 --> 01:00:23.970
Thank you.
01:00:25.210 --> 01:00:28.100
Well, I'm really honored to be part
01:00:28.100 --> 01:00:30.930
of this meeting this
afternoon to present the
01:00:30.930 --> 01:00:34.497
wildfire mitigation
program for SDG and E.
01:00:34.497 --> 01:00:37.060
And we'll start with
the first slide here
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:42.380
and talk about how we've developed
01:00:42.380 --> 01:00:46.400
a wildfire mitigation plan for 2021
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:48.530
and some of the updates
that we've included
01:00:48.530 --> 01:00:50.370
in the next slide, please.
01:00:50.370 --> 01:00:52.510
We have broken it down
01:00:52.510 --> 01:00:55.940
into four areas that I'm
going to present this afternoon
01:00:55.940 --> 01:00:59.770
the risk assessment piece,
which I want to share with you
01:00:59.770 --> 01:01:02.840
how we've looked at and
developed some models
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:06.440
for risk assessment and
in vegetation management
01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:10.044
how we've looked at our,
especially in our strategy
01:01:10.044 --> 01:01:12.077
and some of the advancements
we're making there.
01:01:12.077 --> 01:01:15.179
And then the grid
hardening, what are some
01:01:15.179 --> 01:01:18.050
of the ways we're prioritizing
our hardening program
01:01:18.050 --> 01:01:20.118
and then PSPS, how are we looking
01:01:20.118 --> 01:01:23.980
at reducing impacts in
scale scope and frequency?
01:01:23.980 --> 01:01:25.243
And so with that in our next slide
01:01:25.243 --> 01:01:27.830
I just want to start off with high level
01:01:27.830 --> 01:01:32.830
cost of the program for SDG
and E and the, you know,
01:01:33.650 --> 01:01:38.190
2020 through 2022 total
expenditures that we're looking
01:01:38.190 --> 01:01:41.300
at is close to 1.9 billion.
01:01:41.300 --> 01:01:44.170
And this includes the 2020 actuals.
01:01:44.170 --> 01:01:46.540
And what we see here is
01:01:46.540 --> 01:01:50.490
that grid design and system
hardening takes the top marks
01:01:50.490 --> 01:01:52.820
for the amount of spend.
01:01:52.820 --> 01:01:55.760
So that makes sense,
because we are putting a lot
01:01:55.760 --> 01:01:58.010
of investments in our infrastructure.
01:01:58.010 --> 01:02:00.760
We have next the asset
management inspections,
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:02.640
as well as vegetation management
01:02:02.640 --> 01:02:05.010
are the other high spenders.
01:02:05.010 --> 01:02:07.260
And, and we do, I did
want to highlight too
01:02:07.260 --> 01:02:09.530
that in the data governance area
01:02:09.530 --> 01:02:14.530
we did jump to a significant
increase in spend as well.
01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:21.537
So we're going to really
explore more in that area.
01:02:24.266 --> 01:02:26.100
Again as we go into the next slide,
01:02:26.100 --> 01:02:28.790
I wanted to start off now
with the risk modeling
01:02:28.790 --> 01:02:31.680
and assessment piece that we looked at,
01:02:31.680 --> 01:02:35.440
and we've always had a model
01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:39.070
that we've developed back in 2015
01:02:39.070 --> 01:02:39.917
called the warm model,
01:02:39.917 --> 01:02:41.750
the Wildfire Risk Reduction Model
01:02:41.750 --> 01:02:43.400
that we've used in the past
01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:46.100
to look at asset level risk
01:02:46.100 --> 01:02:50.420
and put plans together for
grid hardening and reducing risk.
01:02:50.420 --> 01:02:53.950
What we've done in 2020
is developed a wings model
01:02:53.950 --> 01:02:58.050
which is stands for Wildfire
Next Generation System.
01:02:58.050 --> 01:02:59.090
And on the left
01:02:59.090 --> 01:03:01.410
you'll see that we're
looking at the likelihood
01:03:01.410 --> 01:03:05.140
and consequence for wildfire
risk as we've always done
01:03:05.140 --> 01:03:07.947
but now included the PSGs risk as well
01:03:07.947 --> 01:03:10.257
the likelihood and
consequence from that.
01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:12.940
And then we take this model
01:03:12.940 --> 01:03:15.560
and it allows us to look at
alternative analysis, right?
01:03:15.560 --> 01:03:18.610
What kind of mitigation
initiatives should we apply
01:03:18.610 --> 01:03:19.754
to the various segments of line
01:03:19.754 --> 01:03:24.754
so that we are able to get
the highest reduction of risk
01:03:24.917 --> 01:03:28.533
both for wildfire and PSPS risk.
01:03:28.533 --> 01:03:31.100
And then we can aggregate the solutions
01:03:31.100 --> 01:03:34.140
at a portfolio level,
which helps us to look
01:03:34.140 --> 01:03:38.470
at the combination of
mitigation that we put together
01:03:38.470 --> 01:03:42.060
for the various segments
and look at the entire program
01:03:42.060 --> 01:03:45.130
and see what are the
total benefits that we get
01:03:45.130 --> 01:03:48.720
for the cost that we put into
and the types of mitigation.
01:03:48.720 --> 01:03:52.270
So that's the approach that
the new model allows us to take.
01:03:52.270 --> 01:03:54.883
And then the next
slide, I'll share a little bit
01:03:55.826 --> 01:03:59.840
about the details within the
inputs for wildfire and PSPS.
01:03:59.840 --> 01:04:02.220
So we wildfire, this is
01:04:02.220 --> 01:04:05.709
these are things that we've
always looked at, right the,
01:04:05.709 --> 01:04:06.542
you know, what are
the historic ignitions
01:04:06.542 --> 01:04:10.031
that we've had the wind
speeds for the various segments
01:04:10.031 --> 01:04:13.390
and the various vegetation
densities that we have.
01:04:13.390 --> 01:04:15.640
And so we take all of that information
01:04:15.640 --> 01:04:18.170
to help us understand the risk
01:04:18.170 --> 01:04:22.060
and the PSPS area and the model.
01:04:22.060 --> 01:04:25.680
We look at the historic
wind speed patterns
01:04:25.680 --> 01:04:27.240
similar to wildfire risk
01:04:27.240 --> 01:04:30.170
but we also look at the
impacts to customers, right?
01:04:30.170 --> 01:04:32.280
How many customers
are in these segments?
01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:34.110
What are the types of customers, right?
01:04:34.110 --> 01:04:37.870
We have medical baseline
or sensitive customers
01:04:37.870 --> 01:04:41.920
and commercial and
industrial or residential as well.
01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:43.070
So we look at the type
01:04:43.070 --> 01:04:45.920
of customers and we look at the history
01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:49.283
of the RSW it's as well,
the red flag warnings.
01:04:50.210 --> 01:04:54.060
And so we're looking at
all this in order to now look
01:04:54.060 --> 01:04:57.550
at the output side on
the right where we look at
01:04:57.550 --> 01:05:01.140
allows us to rank the risks,
those segments by risk
01:05:01.140 --> 01:05:03.660
by which segments
might have the highest risk
01:05:03.660 --> 01:05:05.620
based on the inputs.
01:05:05.620 --> 01:05:09.240
And then take the risk,
the analysis free segment
01:05:09.240 --> 01:05:12.330
and have a ranking for the
risk of inefficiency as well.
01:05:12.330 --> 01:05:15.660
And the RSC or the
risk spend deficiency.
01:05:15.660 --> 01:05:20.180
All it is, is a look at the
initial risk that we started
01:05:20.180 --> 01:05:23.460
with and how much we
were able to reduce it by
01:05:23.460 --> 01:05:25.940
and then over the total
cost of the mitigation.
01:05:25.940 --> 01:05:27.350
So we take each mitigation
01:05:27.350 --> 01:05:30.256
and have a risk
beneficiary score for it.
01:05:30.256 --> 01:05:32.710
And then finally, the,
the graph on the bottom
01:05:32.710 --> 01:05:35.330
on the right shows, the
portfolio level analysis, right?
01:05:35.330 --> 01:05:38.280
We now graph the various we bunch
01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:41.223
or aggregate the mitigations
and the various risks.
01:05:41.223 --> 01:05:43.260
And, and then we look at what are
01:05:44.275 --> 01:05:45.900
what's the best combination
or the best portfolio
01:05:45.900 --> 01:05:49.223
that we we can have from this analysis.
01:05:50.460 --> 01:05:52.133
Jonathan, a quick question.
01:05:54.700 --> 01:05:57.837
I'm trying to understand
from the PSPS portion
01:05:59.310 --> 01:06:01.157
to the extent it feeds into the risks
01:06:01.157 --> 01:06:04.450
and analysis, when you're
not the one necessarily
01:06:04.450 --> 01:06:06.690
spending the, spending the money
01:06:06.690 --> 01:06:10.410
I, I'm trying to understand
how the customer implications
01:06:10.410 --> 01:06:15.410
from a PSPS, the loss of,
you know, dialysis clinics.
01:06:15.640 --> 01:06:19.220
And how does that feed
into the wristband analysis?
01:06:19.220 --> 01:06:22.910
Or is it, is it so difficult to
quantify it's not in there?
01:06:22.910 --> 01:06:24.723
Or how does that work?
01:06:25.950 --> 01:06:28.630
Yeah, so we, we
have a dollar amount,
01:06:28.630 --> 01:06:31.220
average dollar amount for the
01:06:31.220 --> 01:06:33.270
customers from the
customer's point of view.
01:06:33.270 --> 01:06:34.590
Right, and what kind
01:06:34.590 --> 01:06:37.053
of losses are customers
experiencing, alright.
01:06:37.053 --> 01:06:38.883
Because it appear a yes action.
01:06:41.160 --> 01:06:44.170
Yeah, and that's how we're
adding that to the model.
01:06:44.170 --> 01:06:46.730
I'd be interesting
as the inputs to that
01:06:46.730 --> 01:06:48.360
but let's not spend too much time.
01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:50.160
I'm sorry, somebody else.
01:06:50.160 --> 01:06:51.310
Oh, that was me.
01:06:51.310 --> 01:06:52.530
Mr. Porter?
01:06:52.530 --> 01:06:53.820
Yes, chair (indistinct)
01:06:53.820 --> 01:06:55.630
I'm sorry.
01:06:55.630 --> 01:06:59.690
Actually, how do you
quantify the actual cost to the
01:07:01.388 --> 01:07:03.470
to the customer right there?
01:07:03.470 --> 01:07:04.778
Yeah, go ahead.
01:07:04.778 --> 01:07:06.073
Sorry.
01:07:07.010 --> 01:07:08.160
No, no, no, I'm done.
01:07:09.060 --> 01:07:12.633
Okay, yeah, so there's
some industry level standards
01:07:12.633 --> 01:07:17.100
that take a look at the
reliability in, you know
01:07:17.100 --> 01:07:18.430
impacts to customers, right?
01:07:18.430 --> 01:07:20.780
Outages and what, you
know, what are some
01:07:20.780 --> 01:07:23.940
of the average customer
impacts that have occurred?
01:07:23.940 --> 01:07:26.670
And we take that and
look at the dollar amounts.
01:07:26.670 --> 01:07:28.310
We also look at safety risks.
01:07:28.310 --> 01:07:31.250
There's the financial impacts,
the safety impacts, right?
01:07:31.250 --> 01:07:33.653
And as well as, you know, the,
01:07:36.414 --> 01:07:38.116
the environmental type impact.
01:07:38.116 --> 01:07:39.750
So those are the
things that we're looking
01:07:40.964 --> 01:07:42.120
at when we're considering that.
01:07:42.120 --> 01:07:44.430
And maybe, maybe we
can come back with a more
01:07:44.430 --> 01:07:49.010
detailed presentation that
shares a little bit more detail
01:07:49.010 --> 01:07:50.210
how those are developed.
01:07:51.230 --> 01:07:53.330
I would appreciate
that Jonathan (indistinct)
01:07:53.330 --> 01:07:56.940
without asking for too
much work, it's a real area
01:07:56.940 --> 01:08:00.380
of interest for the board as
far as how the implications
01:08:00.380 --> 01:08:05.380
of PSPS are being
gathered and, and quantified.
01:08:05.790 --> 01:08:08.430
So we would in fact be curious
01:08:09.540 --> 01:08:12.010
Okay, and, you know,
just to highlight too,
01:08:12.010 --> 01:08:13.810
we will take that as an action item,
01:08:14.812 --> 01:08:16.283
but to highlight too,
these are you know,
01:08:17.734 --> 01:08:18.875
things are constantly being developed
01:08:18.875 --> 01:08:20.443
and will continue to develop as well.
01:08:22.218 --> 01:08:23.622
So in our next slide,
01:08:23.622 --> 01:08:26.420
I'd now like to discuss
the grid hardening portion.
01:08:26.420 --> 01:08:30.997
And this starts off
with a look at our top
01:08:30.997 --> 01:08:33.510
10 distribution risk drivers.
01:08:33.510 --> 01:08:35.810
So I've just Commissioned
system on what are
01:08:35.810 --> 01:08:37.080
the best drivers,
01:08:37.080 --> 01:08:40.570
the vehicle contacts rise to the top
01:08:40.570 --> 01:08:42.250
as well as vegetation contacts
01:08:42.250 --> 01:08:44.060
and lightening arrestor damage,
01:08:44.060 --> 01:08:45.920
and the list continues down that way.
01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:49.200
And so these are kind
of specific risk drivers
01:08:49.200 --> 01:08:52.290
or incidents that have
occurred on our system
01:08:52.290 --> 01:08:53.830
at a higher level than others.
01:08:53.830 --> 01:08:57.500
Right, and so we, we take a
look at that and consider what
01:08:57.500 --> 01:09:02.170
are the mitigations that we
are currently taking, right?
01:09:02.170 --> 01:09:04.420
What are the programs that
we have, and can these programs
01:09:04.420 --> 01:09:06.550
help mitigate for these risks?
01:09:06.550 --> 01:09:10.350
Or do we need additional
initiatives that we want to
01:09:10.350 --> 01:09:12.900
consider to take care
of some of these and
01:09:12.900 --> 01:09:16.248
in the next slide, we'll
talk another input that we
01:09:16.248 --> 01:09:19.923
use and look at some of
those risks drivers as well.
01:09:21.894 --> 01:09:24.350
So, going on to the next
slide, please, the other
01:09:24.350 --> 01:09:27.638
Jonathan quick, a quick
question, a quick question
01:09:27.638 --> 01:09:31.830
on the last one is the, is
the fact that lightning arrestor
01:09:31.830 --> 01:09:36.370
failure is so high a reflection of its
01:09:36.370 --> 01:09:38.400
of its ignition rate being high.
01:09:38.400 --> 01:09:40.903
I just was surprised to
see that at number three.
01:09:42.530 --> 01:09:44.740
Yeah, so the lightning
arrestor damage or failure
01:09:44.740 --> 01:09:48.030
isn't what we're looking at is the
01:09:49.769 --> 01:09:51.760
the ignition average ignitions caused
01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:55.293
by the equipment as the main ranking.
01:09:56.875 --> 01:09:58.270
So that third column there.
01:09:58.270 --> 01:10:00.170
Yeah, that's how we rank it.
01:10:00.170 --> 01:10:02.650
We do have, you
know, in the first column
01:10:02.650 --> 01:10:05.740
the average outages
caused by these events.
01:10:05.740 --> 01:10:08.930
And then we have the average
ignition rate per the event.
01:10:08.930 --> 01:10:12.650
So some of these have
a higher admission rate.
01:10:12.650 --> 01:10:14.420
For example the vegetation contact,
01:10:14.420 --> 01:10:15.950
have a higher admission rate
01:10:15.950 --> 01:10:17.530
than does the vehicle contact
01:10:17.530 --> 01:10:19.980
or the lightning arrestor
01:10:19.980 --> 01:10:23.580
but average the number of admissions.
01:10:23.580 --> 01:10:26.160
That's how we're also
ranking these risks.
01:10:26.160 --> 01:10:28.000
Okay, okay, I got it now.
01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:29.200
Thank you.
01:10:29.200 --> 01:10:32.063
Okay, sorry, I should have
been more explanatory there.
01:10:34.170 --> 01:10:37.010
Then in the next slide
with the other input that we
01:10:37.010 --> 01:10:40.730
use is the efficacy
of a wildfire mitigation.
01:10:40.730 --> 01:10:44.030
So, so far, right, as we've
gone through over a decade
01:10:44.030 --> 01:10:48.300
of mitigation, what are
some of the effects, right?
01:10:48.300 --> 01:10:50.310
What are some of the
gains that we've had
01:10:50.310 --> 01:10:51.710
as a result of this?
01:10:51.710 --> 01:10:56.500
And just as an
example of the left there,
01:10:56.500 --> 01:10:58.830
the bullets on the
bulleted items, transmission
01:10:58.830 --> 01:11:01.090
hardening, distribution,
hardening, and so on.
01:11:01.090 --> 01:11:04.400
These are the efficacy
studies that we ran in 2020
01:11:04.400 --> 01:11:08.690
and on the right there, the bar
chart shows the transmission
01:11:08.690 --> 01:11:10.030
and distribution heartbeat.
01:11:10.030 --> 01:11:12.930
So the before and
after hardening impacts.
01:11:12.930 --> 01:11:16.410
So on the transmission
side, we, you know
01:11:16.410 --> 01:11:19.960
have had the incidents, if you will
01:11:19.960 --> 01:11:23.090
or the faults that we refer to, right?
01:11:23.090 --> 01:11:26.560
These are, these are failures
that have caused an outage
01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:28.010
not necessarily any condition
01:11:28.900 --> 01:11:31.390
but we've had about six per year,
01:11:31.390 --> 01:11:33.400
per hundred circuit miles.
01:11:33.400 --> 01:11:35.460
We wanted to normalize it, right?
01:11:35.460 --> 01:11:38.160
Not just take general numbers
01:11:38.160 --> 01:11:40.330
because the numbers
can be so small, right.
01:11:40.330 --> 01:11:42.650
We're trying to make
sure we have a good way
01:11:42.650 --> 01:11:44.530
of sharing needs.
01:11:44.530 --> 01:11:45.430
And when you look
01:11:45.430 --> 01:11:48.060
at the Taft or hardening
on the transmission level
01:11:48.060 --> 01:11:53.060
it goes below one,
right per circuit miles.
01:11:54.060 --> 01:11:56.330
And on the distribution system,
01:11:56.330 --> 01:11:58.970
we had before hardening, right.
01:11:58.970 --> 01:12:01.440
We had about 12 events
01:12:01.440 --> 01:12:04.077
per year per a hundred circuit miles.
01:12:04.077 --> 01:12:05.780
And that came all the way down
01:12:05.780 --> 01:12:09.800
to six per year, per
hundred second mile.
01:12:09.800 --> 01:12:12.090
So almost a 50% reduction
01:12:12.090 --> 01:12:15.280
in fault, on the distribution system.
01:12:15.280 --> 01:12:20.280
So this is another factor
that helps us understand how
01:12:20.780 --> 01:12:23.500
effective our mitigation programs are.
01:12:23.500 --> 01:12:25.930
and be able to then apply it
01:12:25.930 --> 01:12:28.030
to that RSE scoring
that I've talked about
01:12:29.047 --> 01:12:30.520
the risks spend efficiency,
because if you remember
01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:34.170
the numerator is how much
risk reduction you're able to get
01:12:34.170 --> 01:12:36.440
over the cost is the denominator.
01:12:36.440 --> 01:12:38.090
And so that's the risk beneficent see
01:12:38.090 --> 01:12:43.090
and allows us to now,
you know, articulate
01:12:43.210 --> 01:12:46.150
and explain how we're
arriving at these mitigations
01:12:46.150 --> 01:12:49.563
but also allows us to collect,
calibrate our RSC scores.
01:12:51.410 --> 01:12:54.560
And so in our next
slide, we take two inputs
01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:57.060
the risk ranking and the RCS, right?
01:12:57.060 --> 01:13:00.970
And you, you see what this results in
01:13:00.970 --> 01:13:03.930
is our ability to then have RSE scores
01:13:03.930 --> 01:13:06.240
for the different mitigation programs.
01:13:06.240 --> 01:13:07.460
So on the right
01:13:07.460 --> 01:13:10.150
we have a table that
shows Recloser Protocols
01:13:11.310 --> 01:13:12.720
is our top RSE score.
01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:16.530
Along with the various
items that we have there.
01:13:16.530 --> 01:13:20.270
On the left, we showed the
hardening programs that we have.
01:13:20.270 --> 01:13:23.010
These are more the
programmatic approaches, right?
01:13:23.010 --> 01:13:26.220
They don't have a high
RSE because they're
01:13:26.220 --> 01:13:27.630
they're a different program.
01:13:27.630 --> 01:13:30.680
They're not as, you know,
more direct to the asset
01:13:31.530 --> 01:13:34.440
but they do provide a
high level of RSE returns
01:13:34.440 --> 01:13:37.594
and (indistinct) kind of that number
01:13:37.594 --> 01:13:38.570
that we use to you know
01:13:38.570 --> 01:13:41.233
the threshold for whether
an RSE is good or not.
01:13:43.250 --> 01:13:44.560
So now
01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:47.450
What is it you're doing
the sensitive fast protection?
01:13:47.450 --> 01:13:52.170
Are you, are you
just, are you using it to
01:13:52.170 --> 01:13:54.220
reclose the basis that
might've been too sensitive?
01:13:54.220 --> 01:13:56.400
I'm curious why that's there.
01:13:56.400 --> 01:13:59.540
Yeah, so what we're
doing there is just
01:13:59.540 --> 01:14:05.480
before a PSPS event,
we changed the settings
01:14:05.480 --> 01:14:08.480
on our sectionalizing
switches and devices
01:14:08.480 --> 01:14:12.960
out in the circuits to
a faster trip setting.
01:14:12.960 --> 01:14:16.150
What that means is
that if there's any fault
01:14:16.150 --> 01:14:19.700
the device is gonna de-energize or turn
01:14:19.700 --> 01:14:23.053
off the power faster than
it would normally would.
01:14:24.350 --> 01:14:26.850
So if we did that
under normal conditions
01:14:26.850 --> 01:14:28.490
there'd be a lot more outages
01:14:28.490 --> 01:14:31.460
and impacts to customers,
but for, you know
01:14:31.460 --> 01:14:34.260
high risk events, like,
you know, high winds
01:14:34.260 --> 01:14:35.490
Santa Ana winds.
01:14:35.490 --> 01:14:37.460
We're able to change the settings
01:14:37.460 --> 01:14:41.520
and take that risk of having
a nuisance outage, if you will
01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:44.410
but still, you know, that's
better than having a wildfire.
01:14:44.410 --> 01:14:47.233
And it allows us to have
these, these protections.
01:14:48.140 --> 01:14:51.050
Well, even if you haven't,
I'll, use your phraseology
01:14:51.904 --> 01:14:55.324
but as I loosened relay,
those people would remain
01:14:55.324 --> 01:14:58.300
out until you, until
you patrol that circuit.
01:14:58.300 --> 01:15:01.470
Correct, they will
remain out until we patrol it.
01:15:01.470 --> 01:15:02.722
And have
01:15:02.722 --> 01:15:05.300
It seems like there's
room there for some
01:15:05.300 --> 01:15:07.741
I don't know, prioritize something.
01:15:07.741 --> 01:15:09.524
It's just, I hate to take people
01:15:09.524 --> 01:15:11.020
out when they don't need to.
01:15:11.020 --> 01:15:15.480
I understand the additional
protection in the impact
01:15:15.480 --> 01:15:20.480
to the RSE, but, but it just
seems that, I don't know.
01:15:22.549 --> 01:15:24.032
Go ahead.
01:15:24.032 --> 01:15:25.849
I do have one quick question.
01:15:25.849 --> 01:15:26.766
Go ahead.
01:15:28.910 --> 01:15:31.118
Same with the
sensitive protections,
01:15:31.118 --> 01:15:33.550
because that one's very
intriguing to me as well,
01:15:33.550 --> 01:15:35.310
because of, you know
01:15:35.310 --> 01:15:37.550
I know it's set up for
a red flag warning,
01:15:37.550 --> 01:15:39.515
you know high wind events,
01:15:39.515 --> 01:15:41.510
but it also, when we started looking
01:15:41.510 --> 01:15:43.880
at protection to worker, so, so did he
01:15:43.880 --> 01:15:45.310
settings had changed only those events
01:15:45.310 --> 01:15:48.470
or any time to reclosers
are taken out of service?
01:15:48.470 --> 01:15:51.720
Cause I'm looking at it
from a safety perspective
01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:54.293
of the individuals working on the line.
01:15:55.450 --> 01:15:57.950
No, of these protection
settings where things
01:15:57.950 --> 01:16:00.904
relay a lot quicker,
you know, with lower the
01:16:00.904 --> 01:16:05.870
the fault at the location
where people are working.
01:16:05.870 --> 01:16:08.760
So it's almost standard
protocols that it's people
01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:10.870
are working online.
01:16:10.870 --> 01:16:13.123
They would take the, the reclosers out.
01:16:13.990 --> 01:16:16.972
If those, if those settings
were set at the same time
01:16:16.972 --> 01:16:18.610
without additional
protection to those workers
01:16:18.610 --> 01:16:20.010
is that a correct statement?
01:16:21.440 --> 01:16:22.300
So, yeah.
01:16:22.300 --> 01:16:25.656
Let me, let me just
walk through the process.
01:16:25.656 --> 01:16:28.680
So for reclosing right.
01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:31.560
We take out our reclosers
and reclosers are used
01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:36.090
for putting things back
in service quicker, right?
01:16:36.090 --> 01:16:38.340
If there's an intimate assault
01:16:38.340 --> 01:16:41.280
the equipment will close
back in and you know
01:16:41.280 --> 01:16:42.810
half service back in.
01:16:42.810 --> 01:16:45.920
So what we do in the high fire district
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:47.950
our practice is to take
01:16:47.950 --> 01:16:50.513
out the reclosing capability altogether.
01:16:51.580 --> 01:16:54.440
Now for the assessed
and protective settings.
01:16:54.440 --> 01:16:57.950
We only enact that,
as you said, for some
01:16:57.950 --> 01:17:01.170
an employee working, if
there's a plant plant work,
01:17:01.170 --> 01:17:04.160
we'll put the sense to
protection settings on
01:17:04.160 --> 01:17:06.380
because we don't want
an employee to infer.
01:17:06.380 --> 01:17:07.940
If they're working at hot
01:17:07.940 --> 01:17:10.640
we don't want anyone to be injured.
01:17:10.640 --> 01:17:13.710
So we take and put faster settings
01:17:13.710 --> 01:17:15.840
so that employees are working safely.
01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:18.150
But during wind events too
01:17:18.150 --> 01:17:20.330
when there's no one working on the lines
01:17:20.330 --> 01:17:24.100
we also have it set so
that if there are events right
01:17:24.100 --> 01:17:27.930
three contacts or other
faults that occur on the system
01:17:27.930 --> 01:17:31.363
that the segment of
circuit can trip faster.
01:17:33.307 --> 01:17:37.178
Yeah, that was just, I thought
I'd do something, you know
01:17:37.178 --> 01:17:41.660
that if they work together
under, under the protocols
01:17:41.660 --> 01:17:43.010
that it would add, you know
01:17:44.556 --> 01:17:45.389
lower the ball current on,
in certain sections aligned
01:17:45.389 --> 01:17:48.600
which would help I'm looking more
01:17:48.600 --> 01:17:50.140
from an ARC flash perspective.
01:17:50.140 --> 01:17:52.190
And then the second
part to that would be
01:17:54.389 --> 01:17:56.170
when the sensitive, I mean if something
01:17:58.002 --> 01:17:58.835
were to make a contact in the line
01:17:58.835 --> 01:18:01.290
even with the settings quicker,
01:18:01.290 --> 01:18:04.672
it would (indistinct)
01:18:04.672 --> 01:18:06.010
are we saying that it
eliminates all sparks
01:18:06.010 --> 01:18:08.833
or where the Soviet
spark it's just not as much.
01:18:09.810 --> 01:18:13.564
It would, it would have
been any fault on the system,
01:18:13.564 --> 01:18:17.310
it would, it would not be
as much, but also it turn it off
01:18:17.310 --> 01:18:18.530
turn off the power much quicker
01:18:18.530 --> 01:18:22.110
so that it wouldn't have
the chance to, to, you know
01:18:22.110 --> 01:18:23.310
grow into a bigger fire.
01:18:24.290 --> 01:18:25.840
So it'd be snuffed out quicker.
01:18:27.260 --> 01:18:28.800
Thank you.
01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:30.480
Okay, board member Porter
01:18:30.480 --> 01:18:32.280
Did you have a question?
01:18:32.280 --> 01:18:34.710
No, actually Ralph covered it.
01:18:34.710 --> 01:18:38.500
It's going to reduce the, the fault duty
01:18:38.500 --> 01:18:42.280
which is going to actually
reduce the risk of ignition
01:18:42.280 --> 01:18:46.040
but it, but it trips faster again,
01:18:46.040 --> 01:18:49.323
eliminating the
possibility of it pumping in,
01:18:50.273 --> 01:18:52.090
pumping fault into the ground
01:18:52.090 --> 01:18:55.550
igniting grass or any other vegetation.
01:18:55.550 --> 01:18:59.620
So just wanted to understand exactly why
01:18:59.620 --> 01:19:01.480
they were doing that.
01:19:01.480 --> 01:19:02.313
Okay.
01:19:03.180 --> 01:19:05.690
I, I just have to
make a point here
01:19:05.690 --> 01:19:08.080
that doesn't actually
lower the fault duty.
01:19:08.080 --> 01:19:10.060
It, it's still the same fault duty.
01:19:10.060 --> 01:19:13.460
It just lowers the
total amount of energy.
01:19:13.460 --> 01:19:16.330
That is a party to the topography
01:19:16.330 --> 01:19:17.790
because it's shortened the period
01:19:17.790 --> 01:19:20.760
of time that the system has faulty.
01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:22.418
Yeah, correct.
01:19:22.418 --> 01:19:23.950
Yeah, that's what I heard
01:19:25.250 --> 01:19:26.083
So, okay.
01:19:29.410 --> 01:19:31.070
Any other questions
on this point?
01:19:31.070 --> 01:19:32.740
Or can we move forward?
01:19:32.740 --> 01:19:33.880
Well, I do have a question
01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:37.213
on PSPS expected
reductions are occluded.
01:19:40.559 --> 01:19:43.610
Because I also saw the presentation
01:19:43.610 --> 01:19:45.230
by Southern California Edison
01:19:45.230 --> 01:19:48.740
to President Batjer
during the CPC hearing
01:19:50.130 --> 01:19:55.130
where they had linked
hardening to PSPS reductions.
01:19:55.990 --> 01:19:59.600
And so that means that there
has been some analysis done
01:20:01.027 --> 01:20:03.280
on the amount of risk reduction
because of the mitigations
01:20:03.280 --> 01:20:07.170
and therefore the being
able to prepare for that
01:20:07.170 --> 01:20:10.193
that they're being able to
operate at a higher wind speed.
01:20:11.440 --> 01:20:14.640
Is that included in this
presentation or how you're
01:20:14.640 --> 01:20:16.640
how you're doing it, that that's in line
01:20:17.796 --> 01:20:18.629
with one of the recommendations
01:20:18.629 --> 01:20:21.053
issued by the board last year.
01:20:23.220 --> 01:20:25.870
Yeah, so, as I
was saying earlier
01:20:25.870 --> 01:20:28.057
we're looking at wildfire
risk and PSPS risk.
01:20:28.057 --> 01:20:30.090
And what we're not really talking
01:20:30.090 --> 01:20:31.930
about here is not
necessarily the threshold
01:20:31.930 --> 01:20:34.640
but you know, the mitigations, like
01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:37.360
you know, applying
undergrounding, for example, right.
01:20:37.360 --> 01:20:41.430
Eliminating some of the PSPS
that would occur otherwise
01:20:41.430 --> 01:20:44.954
if we underground and even
covered conductor and, and using
01:20:44.954 --> 01:20:49.954
you know, our risk reduction
model to estimate what kind
01:20:50.260 --> 01:20:52.170
of risk reductions we'd have on, on
01:20:52.170 --> 01:20:54.823
or what kind of PSPS
deductions we'd have.
01:20:58.090 --> 01:21:01.680
We would love to follow up
and discuss that in more detail
01:21:01.680 --> 01:21:05.465
in the methodologies
that in a couple of years
01:21:05.465 --> 01:21:07.933
some is using, I mean,
SDG is using, sorry.
01:21:10.249 --> 01:21:11.082
Got the one utility.
01:21:11.082 --> 01:21:13.900
(laughs)
01:21:13.900 --> 01:21:15.354
Okay.
01:21:15.354 --> 01:21:16.878
I watch who you're
picking on there.
01:21:16.878 --> 01:21:18.165
Right, right.
01:21:18.165 --> 01:21:19.523
You can certainly follow up.
01:21:21.270 --> 01:21:22.103
All right.
01:21:22.103 --> 01:21:23.100
Anybody else?
01:21:23.100 --> 01:21:24.483
Okay, let's move forward.
01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:28.200
Thanks for the questions.
01:21:28.200 --> 01:21:29.240
Our next slide here.
01:21:29.240 --> 01:21:32.520
We'll keep going on the hardening.
01:21:32.520 --> 01:21:36.680
And so we're taking these
inputs and refining a hardening
01:21:36.680 --> 01:21:38.820
starting with the traditional hardening.
01:21:38.820 --> 01:21:41.920
This is something that
we've done for over a decade.
01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:44.040
Now, what we've focused on small wire
01:21:44.040 --> 01:21:47.260
and changing from wood
to steel poles to make sure
01:21:47.260 --> 01:21:49.512
that our structures
withstand high winds.
01:21:49.512 --> 01:21:51.620
We have a program called prime
01:21:51.620 --> 01:21:53.840
which looks at pole loading and looking
01:21:53.840 --> 01:21:56.950
at our areas where we have
the highest risk and HFTD.
01:21:57.913 --> 01:21:59.530
And then the Cleveland
national forest was a focus
01:21:59.530 --> 01:22:04.310
where we did a lot of work
on to harden the system.
01:22:04.310 --> 01:22:06.550
As we went through the
Cleveland national forest areas
01:22:06.550 --> 01:22:09.500
because of the high risk impact
01:22:09.500 --> 01:22:13.110
with this program, we are, we, we did
01:22:13.110 --> 01:22:18.000
over 200 miles in 2020,
and in 2021 and 2022
01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:21.500
our numbers will come down
because we're going to shift
01:22:21.500 --> 01:22:23.250
to a different initiative, right.
01:22:23.250 --> 01:22:25.420
A different methodology
covered conductor
01:22:25.420 --> 01:22:27.500
in particular and undergrounding.
01:22:27.500 --> 01:22:30.243
So just wanted to start off with that.
01:22:30.243 --> 01:22:31.480
And I'll go into more detail
01:22:31.480 --> 01:22:34.400
as we look at the other mitigations.
01:22:34.400 --> 01:22:35.233
Yeah.
01:22:36.847 --> 01:22:38.750
And the next slide,
we'll talk about some
01:22:38.750 --> 01:22:40.770
of the other hardening
programs that we have
01:22:40.770 --> 01:22:43.121
and on inspections.
01:22:43.121 --> 01:22:44.650
And this particular slide talks
01:22:44.650 --> 01:22:48.070
about the additional
inspections we have.
01:22:48.070 --> 01:22:50.070
We have our regular
inspections that we do
01:22:50.070 --> 01:22:52.580
for detailed inspection patrols.
01:22:52.580 --> 01:22:55.800
We have specific additional
inspections that we have
01:22:55.800 --> 01:22:58.000
for the high fire threat district
01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:00.820
but we introduced two new inspections.
01:23:00.820 --> 01:23:03.890
In 2021 is our drone inspection program.
01:23:03.890 --> 01:23:07.640
We looked at all of the tier three poles
01:23:07.640 --> 01:23:12.640
in the HFTD and took about
on average 40 pictures per pole.
01:23:14.200 --> 01:23:16.720
We were using this as kind
of a learning opportunity to
01:23:16.720 --> 01:23:20.220
to look at, you know, what
the right mix of photos was
01:23:20.220 --> 01:23:23.697
but also used our fire fault
by legible workers, right.
01:23:23.697 --> 01:23:26.583
To review the photos and
prioritize them pre mediations.
01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:29.190
And so with that, we recovered
01:23:29.190 --> 01:23:32.113
over 37,000 poles in 2020.
01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:35.300
Going forward into 2021, 2022.
01:23:35.300 --> 01:23:39.090
We're going to look at
tier two and, you know
01:23:39.090 --> 01:23:40.180
spent that over two years
01:23:40.180 --> 01:23:44.713
and cover the inspections
for the through using drums.
01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:46.760
Another new program that we did
01:23:46.760 --> 01:23:48.150
with distribution and for inspections.
01:23:48.150 --> 01:23:50.090
Now, we've always
used infrared inspections
01:23:50.090 --> 01:23:54.240
on our transmission
system, but we now try in
01:23:54.240 --> 01:23:59.090
2020 highlighting the tier
three inspections using infrared.
01:23:59.090 --> 01:24:01.010
And we're going to continue our work
01:24:01.010 --> 01:24:06.010
in tier two now and see
what these inspections result
01:24:06.010 --> 01:24:09.727
in our tier three inspections.
01:24:09.727 --> 01:24:12.740
We didn't find a whole
lot, but we, we view this
01:24:12.740 --> 01:24:16.180
as a very low cost way
to look at additional risks.
01:24:16.180 --> 01:24:18.673
So we're going to
continue that in tier two.
01:24:19.640 --> 01:24:23.290
In our next slide we'll talk
about some additional equipment
01:24:23.290 --> 01:24:26.730
hardening that we're doing
and, and asset specific programs
01:24:26.730 --> 01:24:29.300
besides just the general grid, you know
01:24:29.300 --> 01:24:32.170
overall overhead hardening
program that I talked about
01:24:32.170 --> 01:24:36.140
we have the specific
equipment mitigations,
01:24:36.140 --> 01:24:38.480
expulsion fuses, hotline clamps,
01:24:38.480 --> 01:24:40.260
SCADA Capacitors, lightning arrestor.
01:24:40.260 --> 01:24:41.353
And this is based on that risk ranking
01:24:41.353 --> 01:24:43.110
that we talked about
right over the years
01:24:43.110 --> 01:24:46.700
different items have come
up higher on the risk ranking.
01:24:46.700 --> 01:24:49.910
Lightning arresters are
pretty high this time around.
01:24:49.910 --> 01:24:53.543
And so we have a program
in 2021, 2022 for that.
01:24:54.971 --> 01:24:55.804
And our next slide
01:24:55.804 --> 01:24:58.120
we'll talk about the
coverage conductor program.
01:24:58.120 --> 01:25:01.060
And this is what I talked about earlier
01:25:01.060 --> 01:25:03.990
where instead of just
doing bare conductor
01:25:03.990 --> 01:25:07.510
we're now shifting over
to coverage conductor.
01:25:07.510 --> 01:25:09.430
It, it took us a little while in
01:25:09.430 --> 01:25:12.650
in 2020 to look at the methodology
01:25:12.650 --> 01:25:15.590
for installing covered
conductor as a new technology
01:25:15.590 --> 01:25:18.810
as well as the standards,
construction standards for us.
01:25:18.810 --> 01:25:21.490
And so that helped us
develop it using the two
01:25:22.544 --> 01:25:24.611
miles that we did that we're ramping
01:25:24.611 --> 01:25:26.650
up to 80 miles over the next two years
01:25:26.650 --> 01:25:29.723
and using that as one of our
main ways to harden our system.
01:25:31.759 --> 01:25:34.659
And then next we'll talk about
our undergrounding program.
01:25:35.780 --> 01:25:39.540
And we did 30 miles in 2020,
01:25:39.540 --> 01:25:42.420
and those 30 miles were specifically
01:25:42.420 --> 01:25:44.710
in high-five third district
01:25:44.710 --> 01:25:48.970
and helped us to really
refine our methodology.
01:25:48.970 --> 01:25:51.612
Because some of the
areas that we're dealing
01:25:51.612 --> 01:25:52.560
with is difficult terrain.
01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:54.840
There's new easements
that we have to acquire.
01:25:54.840 --> 01:25:57.510
We really can't follow
the overhead lines.
01:25:57.510 --> 01:26:00.330
And in our routing
for the undergrounding
01:26:00.330 --> 01:26:03.840
we have to go through
the areas where roads go
01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:05.570
and get additional
easements around that.
01:26:05.570 --> 01:26:08.580
So it's helped us kind of
streamline our process.
01:26:08.580 --> 01:26:10.380
And in the next two
years, we're going to do
01:26:10.380 --> 01:26:14.402
over a hundred miles
worth of undergrounding
01:26:14.402 --> 01:26:17.040
and make that a major
part of our mitigation.
01:26:17.040 --> 01:26:19.880
And this will help also
with reducing PSPS
01:26:19.880 --> 01:26:21.233
not just wildfire risk.
01:26:24.320 --> 01:26:26.710
So as we go into our next slide
01:26:26.710 --> 01:26:30.210
we'll talk about the
Microgrids that we put
01:26:30.210 --> 01:26:33.750
in place in 2020, and these four
01:26:33.750 --> 01:26:36.710
on the left Ramona Air
Attack Base, Cameron Corners,
01:26:36.710 --> 01:26:39.834
Butterfield, Shelter Valley
where ones that we used,
01:26:39.834 --> 01:26:44.834
we energized to help
keep customers in power
01:26:46.570 --> 01:26:48.560
during PSPS events,
01:26:48.560 --> 01:26:51.150
and the Ramona Air Attack Base,
01:26:51.150 --> 01:26:53.380
one customer, but
it is real critical one
01:26:53.380 --> 01:26:57.070
where Cal Fire uses
that base for air support.
01:26:57.070 --> 01:27:00.450
And so we felt it really
important to keep that
01:27:00.450 --> 01:27:05.450
energized using now we use
conventional generators in 2020
01:27:05.660 --> 01:27:09.200
but we have plans to
put renewable resources
01:27:09.200 --> 01:27:11.230
on all four of these sites,
01:27:11.230 --> 01:27:14.343
energy storage and solar in 2021.
01:27:15.240 --> 01:27:18.120
On the far right South
Campo and Sherilton Valley.
01:27:18.120 --> 01:27:21.350
These are future
developments starting in 2021.
01:27:21.350 --> 01:27:23.270
We're going to have
some additional sites
01:27:23.270 --> 01:27:24.750
that we will put in place.
01:27:24.750 --> 01:27:27.213
And these are communities
01:27:27.213 --> 01:27:29.753
that we can keep energized
during PSPS events
01:27:29.753 --> 01:27:32.450
The regular service that they have
01:27:32.450 --> 01:27:35.253
from overhead lines to
traverse across, you know
01:27:35.253 --> 01:27:36.770
a high fire threat district.
01:27:36.770 --> 01:27:38.680
So they are de-energized
01:27:38.680 --> 01:27:41.840
but when it comes to the PSPS events
01:27:41.840 --> 01:27:44.620
because they're outside
in the desert communities
01:27:44.620 --> 01:27:47.110
and not immediately in
the high-five third district
01:27:47.110 --> 01:27:50.913
we're able to keep them
powered using Microgrids.
01:27:51.930 --> 01:27:56.240
And so that's been a benefit
to the communities there.
01:27:56.240 --> 01:28:00.400
In our next slide we'll talk
about our generator program
01:28:00.400 --> 01:28:02.764
and the Generator Grant Program
01:28:02.764 --> 01:28:05.560
on the far left is basically
a Bower of battery power
01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:09.320
or energy storage that we
supply as our medical baseline.
01:28:09.320 --> 01:28:12.550
And in 2020, we gave, you know
01:28:12.550 --> 01:28:17.080
close to 2000 grants for our customers
01:28:17.080 --> 01:28:20.330
or to our customers and
including some Amazon customers.
01:28:20.330 --> 01:28:24.040
And the second column there,
the Mobile Home Park Project
01:28:24.040 --> 01:28:28.660
this is really a way to
keep the community centers
01:28:28.660 --> 01:28:32.420
or the clubhouses in the
multiple parks energized
01:28:32.420 --> 01:28:35.380
through our generator power cell.
01:28:35.380 --> 01:28:40.070
And what this will do
is help customers go
01:28:41.413 --> 01:28:42.340
to the community center or the
01:28:43.303 --> 01:28:45.700
the sub house to get,
you know, to power their
01:28:45.700 --> 01:28:47.290
through charge their cell phones,
01:28:47.290 --> 01:28:50.410
or get information if they
have a radio or TV there
01:28:50.410 --> 01:28:54.113
as well as really, you know,
a way to kind of shelter.
01:28:55.600 --> 01:28:57.690
Next in our generator systems program.
01:28:57.690 --> 01:29:00.490
These, this is a re rebate
program for customers.
01:29:00.490 --> 01:29:04.590
The customers about 1,250
customers took advantage
01:29:04.590 --> 01:29:06.470
of the rebates and were
able to get generators
01:29:06.470 --> 01:29:09.275
from home (indistinct)
01:29:09.275 --> 01:29:10.740
and we expect that program to continue
01:29:10.740 --> 01:29:12.920
in 2021 and 2022.
01:29:12.920 --> 01:29:14.890
The fixed backup power.
01:29:14.890 --> 01:29:17.290
We were able to energize
about 80 customers
01:29:17.290 --> 01:29:21.530
with a fixed generator,
meaning a fixed installment, right?
01:29:21.530 --> 01:29:25.220
And these customers were
selected based on the high number
01:29:25.220 --> 01:29:28.010
of PSPS events they
experienced in the past.
01:29:28.010 --> 01:29:29.620
And so we'll continue that program
01:29:29.620 --> 01:29:32.203
with over 400 installations this year.
01:29:33.200 --> 01:29:36.650
I, excuse me, this
is vice-chair Fellman.
01:29:36.650 --> 01:29:38.860
Just quickly on
Microgrids and Generators.
01:29:38.860 --> 01:29:40.340
Are all these costs recovered
01:29:40.340 --> 01:29:42.810
in your rates and approved already
01:29:42.810 --> 01:29:45.493
or are your approvals pending?
01:29:47.040 --> 01:29:49.970
These are newer programs,
so the approvals are pending.
01:29:49.970 --> 01:29:52.707
They said they will be
submitted to the next GRC.
01:29:53.734 --> 01:29:56.145
Thank you.
01:29:56.145 --> 01:29:57.145
Thank you.
01:29:58.190 --> 01:30:00.360
On our next slide, we'll now talk
01:30:00.360 --> 01:30:03.660
about the PSPS events in 2020 and some
01:30:03.660 --> 01:30:07.060
of the mitigations we
have for those events.
01:30:07.060 --> 01:30:10.820
Now in, I wanna highlight
that there were, you know
01:30:10.820 --> 01:30:14.370
11 red flag warning and
PSPS events for the season.
01:30:14.370 --> 01:30:19.370
We were able to avoid
PSPS action for a lot of these
01:30:19.660 --> 01:30:23.790
but there were four
major ones that have, yes
01:30:23.790 --> 01:30:26.074
we have some backs to our customers.
01:30:26.074 --> 01:30:27.610
I want to focus on that area where
01:30:27.610 --> 01:30:30.310
we highlighted December 2nd to the 4th.
01:30:30.310 --> 01:30:34.530
That was where we have
70 over 73,000 customers
01:30:34.530 --> 01:30:36.280
that we had to de-energize
01:30:36.280 --> 01:30:38.850
or take a power shot off.
01:30:38.850 --> 01:30:43.850
And that was a very high event
time where we had, you know
01:30:45.150 --> 01:30:47.860
wind gusts up to 71 miles per hour
01:30:47.860 --> 01:30:52.860
43 of our 220 wind
stations or weather stations
01:30:53.360 --> 01:30:56.770
experienced peak
records of high wind speeds
01:30:57.710 --> 01:31:02.003
some reaching 94, you
know, over 94 miles per hour.
01:31:02.850 --> 01:31:06.640
And I want to highlight that
we use the 99th percentile
01:31:06.640 --> 01:31:10.710
or 95th percentile gauge
for how high wind speeds get
01:31:10.710 --> 01:31:13.870
on our weather stations
and 126 of the 2020
01:31:13.870 --> 01:31:17.060
weather stations reached
the 99th percentile level.
01:31:17.060 --> 01:31:18.100
So, you know
01:31:18.100 --> 01:31:21.620
they reached their highest
wind speeds, you know, that that
01:31:21.620 --> 01:31:24.950
that they would reach
in a lot in the record.
01:31:24.950 --> 01:31:28.410
So a lot of, a lot of activity there
01:31:28.410 --> 01:31:29.920
and our community resource centers,
01:31:29.920 --> 01:31:32.000
we opened up 10 of them.
01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:34.250
And there were what we did was
01:31:34.250 --> 01:31:36.610
half drive-through
service for customers.
01:31:36.610 --> 01:31:41.010
And over 2,600 customers
drove through cars
01:31:41.010 --> 01:31:41.980
drove through and were able
01:31:41.980 --> 01:31:43.983
to get a service and health fair.
01:31:45.410 --> 01:31:50.090
In our next slide, we'll talk
about some of the impacts
01:31:50.090 --> 01:31:51.080
in a different way.
01:31:51.080 --> 01:31:52.340
And I just want to highlight
01:31:52.340 --> 01:31:55.670
the December 2nd through
4th events that you see there
01:31:55.670 --> 01:32:00.320
with peak winds and the
circuit segments, you know
01:32:00.320 --> 01:32:03.100
the 73,000 customers we've talked about
01:32:03.100 --> 01:32:06.240
we're about 80 segments
of de-energization.
01:32:06.240 --> 01:32:09.143
is what that is on the
middle bar bar chart.
01:32:10.150 --> 01:32:12.470
The damages and hazards found, you know
01:32:12.470 --> 01:32:17.470
over 12 damaged hazards
found as after our patrols
01:32:17.810 --> 01:32:19.423
right before we started service.
01:32:20.490 --> 01:32:24.210
And then the average outage duration is
01:32:24.210 --> 01:32:28.360
over 30 hours there for the
December 2nd to 4th event.
01:32:28.360 --> 01:32:30.230
And normally we're able to keep these
01:32:30.230 --> 01:32:35.230
at 24 hours max for, for the events.
01:32:35.940 --> 01:32:38.680
But the past year
was very, very eventful.
01:32:38.680 --> 01:32:40.663
2020 was definitely a peak year.
01:32:41.720 --> 01:32:42.900
And our next slide, we'll talk
01:32:42.900 --> 01:32:45.910
about some of the mitigation
measures that we took.
01:32:45.910 --> 01:32:49.030
And this is a combination
of undergrounding
01:32:49.030 --> 01:32:50.770
the generators that we talk about
01:32:50.770 --> 01:32:53.133
especially the whole house generator
01:32:53.133 --> 01:32:54.560
because that's what keeps
the entire home energized
01:32:54.560 --> 01:32:56.762
during PSPs events,
not the rebate program
01:32:56.762 --> 01:33:00.710
which is more of a portable
generator that only keeps part
01:33:00.710 --> 01:33:03.810
of the home energized or the,
you know, the battery power
01:33:03.810 --> 01:33:06.980
for a medical baseline
only keeps, you know
01:33:06.980 --> 01:33:08.918
a single equipment energized
01:33:08.918 --> 01:33:11.660
the Microgrid, the projects
that we talked about,
01:33:11.660 --> 01:33:13.890
the load transfer which
means that we took a segment
01:33:13.890 --> 01:33:15.720
of the circuit that would
have been de-energized
01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:18.810
and put it on a circuit adjacent, right.
01:33:18.810 --> 01:33:21.070
We transferred the customers
over to a different circuit
01:33:21.070 --> 01:33:23.130
so that we could keep
the lights on for those
01:33:23.130 --> 01:33:25.200
particular customers, you know, with
01:33:25.200 --> 01:33:28.000
with the fact that they
were in a different area,
01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:30.500
sectualizing meaning that
additional switches that we put
01:33:30.500 --> 01:33:32.790
on were able to be more surgical
01:33:32.790 --> 01:33:35.150
and use the weather station information
01:33:35.150 --> 01:33:37.670
on that segment to understand, you know
01:33:37.670 --> 01:33:40.400
how much of that circuit
we needed to de-energize
01:33:40.400 --> 01:33:41.900
or shut the power off.
01:33:41.900 --> 01:33:45.320
So taking all of that,
we were able to save,
01:33:45.320 --> 01:33:49.440
you know, 70 over 7,300
customers from PSPS events, right?
01:33:49.440 --> 01:33:51.960
There was 73,000
customers that were impacted
01:33:51.960 --> 01:33:54.193
but it would have been higher
01:33:54.193 --> 01:33:55.500
had it not been for some
of the mitigations that we put
01:33:55.500 --> 01:33:57.960
in place in 2020, and
each event is different.
01:33:57.960 --> 01:33:59.620
So the event on the left there
01:33:59.620 --> 01:34:01.592
or the pie chart on the left shows
01:34:01.592 --> 01:34:04.657
that what we were able to
save and the December 2nd
01:34:04.657 --> 01:34:08.882
to the 4th event, but on
the right, the December 7th
01:34:08.882 --> 01:34:10.500
through the 9th event
is different, right?
01:34:10.500 --> 01:34:14.250
Different areas, different
sectionalizing areas and
01:34:14.250 --> 01:34:15.710
different customers.
01:34:15.710 --> 01:34:18.192
You know, there were
some repeat customers
01:34:18.192 --> 01:34:22.120
but over 1700 customers were
saved in that smaller events.
01:34:22.120 --> 01:34:24.900
So again, some ways that we were
01:34:26.527 --> 01:34:27.801
able to save some customers.
01:34:27.801 --> 01:34:29.858
And then the next slide
we summarize just some
01:34:29.858 --> 01:34:33.810
of the ways that we're
able to mitigate it just based
01:34:33.810 --> 01:34:37.360
on the micro grades or
the customer generators
01:34:37.360 --> 01:34:39.180
but also using our weather station
01:34:40.060 --> 01:34:42.130
30 second grid capability.
01:34:42.130 --> 01:34:44.707
So I'll use the December 2nd
01:34:44.707 --> 01:34:47.960
to the 4th event on the left again.
01:34:47.960 --> 01:34:50.950
We talked about the 73,000 customers
01:34:50.950 --> 01:34:53.080
that were de-energized in the blue.
01:34:53.080 --> 01:34:55.720
We also talked about the gray
01:34:55.720 --> 01:34:57.880
where the PSPS
engineering solutions, right?
01:34:57.880 --> 01:35:02.720
The 7,300 customers that
were saved from PSPS impact.
01:35:02.720 --> 01:35:07.637
In the middle that, that
middle bar, the 5,899
01:35:08.810 --> 01:35:11.040
those were saved as a result
01:35:11.040 --> 01:35:13.570
of the 30 second reads
that we're able to gain
01:35:13.570 --> 01:35:14.750
from our weather stations.
01:35:14.750 --> 01:35:18.210
And with that capability
was in house this past year.
01:35:18.210 --> 01:35:19.780
And what that allows us to do is
01:35:19.780 --> 01:35:21.480
because of the 30 second reads, right?
01:35:21.480 --> 01:35:22.800
Instead of the 10 minute reads
01:35:22.800 --> 01:35:24.970
that we were having previously,
01:35:24.970 --> 01:35:28.720
we're able to look at more
detail of the wind gusts
01:35:28.720 --> 01:35:31.010
and able to to know that whether
01:35:31.010 --> 01:35:32.910
wind gusts is gonna be sustained
01:35:32.910 --> 01:35:34.180
whether it's gonna stay
01:35:34.180 --> 01:35:37.320
or whether it's going to blip and drop.
01:35:37.320 --> 01:35:40.390
Right? So, so with that,
because we were able to
01:35:40.390 --> 01:35:44.050
see more closely on how
the winds were behaving
01:35:44.050 --> 01:35:49.050
we were able to avoid PSPS
impacts to over 5,800 customers.
01:35:50.240 --> 01:35:52.730
And that repeated itself
on the December 7th
01:35:52.730 --> 01:35:54.320
through 9th event.
01:35:54.320 --> 01:35:56.390
On the December 23rd, through the 24th
01:35:57.335 --> 01:36:00.200
the 19,000 customers
that we're able to save
01:36:00.200 --> 01:36:03.460
as a result of the FBI,
the fire potential on that.
01:36:03.460 --> 01:36:04.930
What that allowed us to do was even
01:36:04.930 --> 01:36:06.680
though there was a red flag warning
01:36:07.579 --> 01:36:09.860
we'd had a rain event just prior to that
01:36:09.860 --> 01:36:14.590
and our FTI was low, so it
wasn't elevated or extreme.
01:36:14.590 --> 01:36:16.890
And therefore we were
able to save customers
01:36:16.890 --> 01:36:19.350
because of the fact that
we have that FPI index
01:36:19.350 --> 01:36:21.773
otherwise we would have
hurt the PSPS customers.
01:36:21.773 --> 01:36:25.060
And, and so that was
another method that we use to
01:36:26.209 --> 01:36:27.309
to reduce the impacts.
01:36:30.030 --> 01:36:31.360
Okay.
01:36:31.360 --> 01:36:32.723
Okay, next slide.
01:36:33.830 --> 01:36:36.890
In 2021, we're going to use
some of the same mitigation
01:36:36.890 --> 01:36:39.930
the sectionalizing, the
standby power programs
01:36:39.930 --> 01:36:42.744
as well as micro Gates
and undergrounding to
01:36:42.744 --> 01:36:46.970
to get to about 3000 to
7,500 customers saved.
01:36:46.970 --> 01:36:49.390
And the reason why there's
a range, as I said earlier
01:36:49.390 --> 01:36:51.793
is that each event is different.
01:36:51.793 --> 01:36:53.314
Each wind event is different.
01:36:53.314 --> 01:36:55.990
So we may be able to one
event to save 3000 customers
01:36:55.990 --> 01:36:57.893
and another event, 7,000 customers.
01:36:59.059 --> 01:36:59.892
So this is the last slide
01:36:59.892 --> 01:37:03.060
and I just want to end up
with, you know, our mitigations
01:37:03.060 --> 01:37:06.200
weren't just focused on
the engineering solutions,
01:37:06.200 --> 01:37:07.820
but also on the customer solutions
01:37:07.820 --> 01:37:11.980
where we we've had
a customer focus team,
01:37:11.980 --> 01:37:13.310
come up with some solutions
01:37:13.310 --> 01:37:15.270
on how to communicate
better with customers
01:37:15.270 --> 01:37:18.030
and help customers,
including, you know, putting
01:37:18.030 --> 01:37:22.260
out a PSPS App that helps give customers
01:37:22.260 --> 01:37:24.210
more information during events, as well
01:37:24.210 --> 01:37:26.690
as signage electronic
signboards that we put out
01:37:26.690 --> 01:37:28.800
in the communities
where there was traffic,
01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:32.160
so that people people could
understand what communities were
01:37:32.160 --> 01:37:35.470
going to be impacted from
PSPS events and other tools.
01:37:35.470 --> 01:37:38.660
So with that all, thank
you for your attention
01:37:38.660 --> 01:37:41.900
and I'll look forward to
some questions later on.
01:37:41.900 --> 01:37:42.733
Thank you, Jonathan.
01:37:42.733 --> 01:37:43.960
I'm sure there will be some.
01:37:43.960 --> 01:37:47.420
That was an information
pack presentation,
01:37:47.420 --> 01:37:50.700
and I personally and
again, the board as well,
01:37:50.700 --> 01:37:53.140
we appreciate your focus on
01:37:53.140 --> 01:37:56.200
the PSPS and the
potential mitigation activities.
01:37:56.200 --> 01:38:00.740
And I think particularly
I like going to the
01:38:02.577 --> 01:38:04.513
the shorter term wind gusts
01:38:04.513 --> 01:38:05.346
as sort of a last minute indicator.
01:38:05.346 --> 01:38:07.553
I think that's a really useful strategy.
01:38:08.555 --> 01:38:12.400
So thank you again, moving
to SIPI gas and electric.
01:38:12.400 --> 01:38:15.367
Christina, Louie is a principal
01:38:15.367 --> 01:38:16.300
in the Wildfire Safety Program.
01:38:16.300 --> 01:38:17.450
Kristina, are you here?
01:38:20.580 --> 01:38:21.900
Yep, I'm here.
01:38:21.900 --> 01:38:23.903
Let me go ahead and share my video.
01:38:32.480 --> 01:38:34.273
Can you all see me yet?
01:38:38.270 --> 01:38:40.570
Okay, (indistinct)
01:38:40.570 --> 01:38:42.363
I can, we can
certainly hear you.
01:38:46.360 --> 01:38:48.905
I don't see anything.
01:38:48.905 --> 01:38:51.260
Did you submit a presentation to the
01:38:52.950 --> 01:38:55.050
for the guys to put up?
01:38:55.050 --> 01:38:56.123
Yup, okay.
01:38:57.847 --> 01:39:01.098
Can you see, can you
see everything okay now?
01:39:01.098 --> 01:39:01.931
Yep,
01:39:01.931 --> 01:39:02.764
Okay, perfect.
01:39:02.764 --> 01:39:04.232
Great, thank you.
01:39:04.232 --> 01:39:06.783
So hallo everyone, my
name is Kristina Louie,
01:39:09.536 --> 01:39:10.369
as chair mentioned, I mean
01:39:10.369 --> 01:39:11.810
I am a Principal Program Manager
01:39:11.810 --> 01:39:14.570
with the Community
Wildfire Safety Program team
01:39:14.570 --> 01:39:15.580
at PGE
01:39:16.450 --> 01:39:17.440
First I want to start off
01:39:17.440 --> 01:39:19.960
by thanking the Wildfire
Safety Advisory Board
01:39:19.960 --> 01:39:23.950
for the opportunity to give a
very high-level presentation
01:39:23.950 --> 01:39:26.187
of our 2021 WMP.
01:39:27.941 --> 01:39:30.140
If you could just
scroll to the next slide.
01:39:30.140 --> 01:39:32.520
Okay, so I'll start the presentation
01:39:32.520 --> 01:39:35.232
by setting the stage of
the, with some context.
01:39:35.232 --> 01:39:39.020
The 2020 wildfire season was historic.
01:39:39.020 --> 01:39:41.790
Five out of the six largest
wildfires in California
01:39:41.790 --> 01:39:45.690
history were all located
in PG&E service territory.
01:39:45.690 --> 01:39:48.640
As you can see on the
right, on the map on the right
01:39:50.090 --> 01:39:52.500
over 50% of our service
territory is covered
01:39:52.500 --> 01:39:57.070
by the CPC high fires
sub district HFTD map
01:39:57.070 --> 01:40:00.400
which is a significant
portion of our territory.
01:40:00.400 --> 01:40:02.110
And then in the table on the side
01:40:02.110 --> 01:40:04.220
you can also see that nearly one-third
01:40:04.220 --> 01:40:08.140
of our overhead power
lines are NHSTD and
01:40:08.140 --> 01:40:10.460
over half a million meter customers
01:40:10.460 --> 01:40:12.763
that we serve are also in HFTD.
01:40:14.120 --> 01:40:16.820
Wildfire risk only continues to grow
01:40:16.820 --> 01:40:19.740
and it really requires a
continuous focus effort to
01:40:19.740 --> 01:40:22.310
mitigate these risks, to
protect our communities
01:40:22.310 --> 01:40:24.903
and customers across
our service territory.
01:40:27.610 --> 01:40:29.160
You can advance the next slide.
01:40:31.470 --> 01:40:35.580
So our 2021 sub BNP
outlined the strategic plan
01:40:35.580 --> 01:40:38.210
and approach that PG&E is undertaking to
01:40:38.210 --> 01:40:40.690
mitigate these wildfire risks.
01:40:40.690 --> 01:40:45.147
The 2021 WMP is mainly
an update to last year's WMP.
01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:49.860
The wildfire Mitigation Activities
01:40:49.860 --> 01:40:52.760
that we're undertaking
largely remain consistent
01:40:52.760 --> 01:40:55.350
with the three-year
plan that was submitted.
01:40:55.350 --> 01:40:57.500
So the pillars of our
plan remained the same
01:40:57.500 --> 01:41:01.420
which includes reducing ignition risk,
01:41:01.420 --> 01:41:03.700
enhancing situational awareness
01:41:03.700 --> 01:41:06.263
and reducing the impact of PSPS events.
01:41:07.200 --> 01:41:11.560
Within the three colors for our 2021 WMP
01:41:11.560 --> 01:41:15.190
PG&E has also substantially
upgraded our risk quantification
01:41:15.190 --> 01:41:18.700
and prioritization to
help us best target and
01:41:18.700 --> 01:41:22.483
optimize the critical work
streams to reduce the most risk.
01:41:23.430 --> 01:41:26.990
And then in addition in our 2021 WMP
01:41:26.990 --> 01:41:29.020
we discussed the key learnings
01:41:29.861 --> 01:41:30.694
from our experiences
01:41:30.694 --> 01:41:33.260
and progress towards
improvements every year.
01:41:33.260 --> 01:41:35.680
And we also share that
we continue to perceive
01:41:35.680 --> 01:41:39.160
new technologies that could
have the significant benefit
01:41:39.160 --> 01:41:40.593
in reducing wildfire risks.
01:41:45.878 --> 01:41:47.150
And the next couple
of slides I'll be going
01:41:47.150 --> 01:41:51.563
through each of the
three pillars of our WMP.
01:41:54.850 --> 01:41:57.020
So starting with the first pillar
01:41:57.020 --> 01:42:00.710
which is reducing
wildfire ignition risks.
01:42:00.710 --> 01:42:03.560
This table highlights
the key system upgrades
01:42:03.560 --> 01:42:07.160
and changes that we're
making to reduce ignition risks
01:42:07.160 --> 01:42:10.483
and increase the operational
flexibility of our grid.
01:42:11.550 --> 01:42:13.440
There are a lot of numbers on this page.
01:42:13.440 --> 01:42:15.340
So folks can read through this in detail
01:42:15.340 --> 01:42:17.690
but I just want to call
your attention to a few
01:42:18.680 --> 01:42:19.550
as you can see
01:42:19.550 --> 01:42:22.723
we continue to do enhanced
vegetation management.
01:42:23.610 --> 01:42:28.610
We have a goal of 1800
miles each for 2021 and 2022
01:42:28.650 --> 01:42:30.250
and this is fairly consistent
01:42:31.778 --> 01:42:33.970
to our numbers from 2019 and 2020.
01:42:33.970 --> 01:42:36.590
We also continue to
perform some heartening
01:42:36.590 --> 01:42:40.740
with the goal of 180
high risk miles in 2021.
01:42:40.740 --> 01:42:42.416
This is a drop from previous years
01:42:42.416 --> 01:42:44.930
but that's largely driven by the fact
01:42:44.930 --> 01:42:48.210
that we do have a new
distribution risk model
01:42:48.210 --> 01:42:49.740
and that did change our focus
01:42:49.740 --> 01:42:52.986
on hardening projects for 2021.
01:42:52.986 --> 01:42:55.050
For 2022, though we will be back on pace
01:42:55.050 --> 01:42:56.330
to refill that pipeline
01:42:56.330 --> 01:42:57.880
up to some heartening projects.
01:42:59.460 --> 01:43:02.010
And finally, we also
plan to replace thousands
01:43:02.010 --> 01:43:04.650
of pieces of equipment
throughout our system
01:43:04.650 --> 01:43:08.410
including surge arrester
and fuse replacements.
01:43:08.410 --> 01:43:11.310
And we have a goal of
installing eight Microgrids in 2021.
01:43:14.220 --> 01:43:15.053
Next slide
01:43:18.270 --> 01:43:20.780
For the second pillar of our WMP
01:43:20.780 --> 01:43:24.160
which is focused on enhancing
situational awareness.
01:43:24.160 --> 01:43:26.100
We have a number of activities here
01:43:26.100 --> 01:43:30.450
including operating our
wildfire safety operation center.
01:43:30.450 --> 01:43:32.090
That's the WSOC.
01:43:32.090 --> 01:43:35.290
The WSOC serves as a coordination
01:43:35.290 --> 01:43:38.500
facilitation and communication
hub for wildfire activities
01:43:38.500 --> 01:43:41.993
including using weather
data to monitor the fire set.
01:43:43.130 --> 01:43:46.247
It also coordinates PG&ES (indistinct)
01:43:46.247 --> 01:43:49.130
at first would be appropriate
operational personnel
01:43:49.130 --> 01:43:51.480
and local first responders
or safety officials.
01:43:52.790 --> 01:43:54.750
In addition to the WSOP
01:43:54.750 --> 01:43:58.890
we also are planning to
deploy more weather stations
01:43:58.890 --> 01:44:03.560
with the goal of installing
1300 by the end of 2021.
01:44:03.560 --> 01:44:06.400
And we also plan to
install more HD cameras
01:44:06.400 --> 01:44:09.120
about 135 in 2021.
01:44:09.120 --> 01:44:12.770
The goal of covering more
than 90% of our high fires
01:44:12.770 --> 01:44:15.003
but areas by the end of 2022.
01:44:16.410 --> 01:44:17.243
And then finally
01:44:17.243 --> 01:44:20.610
we continue to upgrade
our meteorology tools
01:44:20.610 --> 01:44:21.460
and leverage state
01:44:21.460 --> 01:44:23.753
of the art satellite
fire detection tools.
01:44:24.730 --> 01:44:27.840
PG&E has partnered
with the space science
01:44:27.840 --> 01:44:30.770
and engineering center from
the university of Wisconsin
01:44:31.720 --> 01:44:32.553
which provides us
01:44:32.553 --> 01:44:36.040
with customized granular
feed of fire detection
01:44:36.040 --> 01:44:39.373
from the next generation of
geosynchronous satellites.
01:44:41.710 --> 01:44:42.543
Next slide.
01:44:47.107 --> 01:44:52.070
For the third pillar of
reducing PSPS impacts in 2020
01:44:52.070 --> 01:44:55.610
we met our goals and made huge strides
01:44:55.610 --> 01:45:00.520
by making PSPS events
in 2020, 55% smaller
01:45:00.520 --> 01:45:04.963
and more than 40% shorter than
they would have been in 2018.
01:45:06.067 --> 01:45:10.250
We were able to keep over
628,000 customers energized
01:45:10.250 --> 01:45:12.060
because of various enhancements
01:45:12.060 --> 01:45:14.003
to our electric grid technology.
01:45:15.010 --> 01:45:17.240
And then in terms of
support to our customers
01:45:17.240 --> 01:45:21.310
we made a concerted effort
to provide greater support.
01:45:21.310 --> 01:45:23.320
So some of the support included offering
01:45:23.320 --> 01:45:25.290
community resource centers.
01:45:25.290 --> 01:45:28.823
Last year, we had over
50,000 visitors to our CRC.
01:45:30.110 --> 01:45:32.320
We deliver PSPS modifications
01:45:32.320 --> 01:45:36.400
do various communication
channels across multiple languages.
01:45:36.400 --> 01:45:39.770
We also provided over
30,000 food packages
01:45:39.770 --> 01:45:42.403
and distributed over 6,000
batteries to customers.
01:45:43.910 --> 01:45:47.390
And we also received some
positive feedback where 60%
01:45:47.390 --> 01:45:49.750
of customers reported an improvement
01:45:49.750 --> 01:45:53.093
in how PG&E handled PSPS in 2020.
01:45:55.960 --> 01:45:57.380
Next slide.
01:45:57.380 --> 01:45:59.700
Oh, excuse me again.
01:45:59.700 --> 01:46:01.320
This is, this is based your comment.
01:46:01.320 --> 01:46:05.210
I just wanted to say that
this is such a great slide
01:46:05.210 --> 01:46:08.890
and it's something
we've been looking for,
01:46:08.890 --> 01:46:11.670
the communicates the
metrics and the improvements.
01:46:11.670 --> 01:46:13.610
So thank you very much for including it.
01:46:13.610 --> 01:46:17.170
I think this sums
everything up with respect
01:46:17.170 --> 01:46:19.787
to what PG&E goals have been
01:46:19.787 --> 01:46:23.723
and how meaningfully you've
been accomplishing them.
01:46:25.490 --> 01:46:26.470
Thank You for that feedback.
01:46:26.470 --> 01:46:28.320
That's, that's, that's great to hear.
01:46:31.820 --> 01:46:36.237
So we are focused on continuing
to improve our PSPS program
01:46:36.237 --> 01:46:38.981
and reduce the impact on customers.
01:46:38.981 --> 01:46:41.330
And as the site shows
01:46:41.330 --> 01:46:45.660
we started the PSTF program back in 2018
01:46:45.660 --> 01:46:49.040
we expanded it significantly in 2019
01:46:49.040 --> 01:46:51.710
in recognition of the
growing up by risks
01:46:51.710 --> 01:46:54.180
but then also learned a lot of lessons
01:46:54.180 --> 01:46:56.280
about how to improve execution
01:46:56.280 --> 01:46:57.883
and better support customers.
01:46:59.100 --> 01:46:59.933
And then as mentioned
01:46:59.933 --> 01:47:02.281
in the previous slide, you know,
in 2020, we made a number
01:47:02.281 --> 01:47:05.060
of significant improvements
to reduce the impact
01:47:05.060 --> 01:47:08.240
and better support our
customers do Vegas channels
01:47:08.240 --> 01:47:09.550
like the CRC
01:47:10.450 --> 01:47:12.260
and the food packages and,
01:47:12.260 --> 01:47:15.630
and batteries distribution.
01:47:15.630 --> 01:47:18.430
And then finally for 2021
01:47:18.430 --> 01:47:22.240
we are focused on
incorporating a vegetation
01:47:22.240 --> 01:47:26.370
and tree risks into our
distribution PSPS scoping.
01:47:26.370 --> 01:47:29.020
And then we are also
focused on opportunities to
01:47:29.020 --> 01:47:30.150
support our customers that
01:47:30.150 --> 01:47:33.800
are repeatedly impacted by PSPS events.
01:47:33.800 --> 01:47:36.790
So that could be through
backup power rebates
01:47:36.790 --> 01:47:39.323
or we'll tell about chairs
or replacements soon.
01:47:42.040 --> 01:47:42.873
Next slide
01:47:45.710 --> 01:47:48.699
So as I mentioned
earlier in the presentation
01:47:48.699 --> 01:47:52.946
our 2021 WMP is
informed by a substantially
01:47:52.946 --> 01:47:53.950
updated risk model.
01:47:53.950 --> 01:47:55.710
Some of the improvements that we've made
01:47:55.710 --> 01:47:58.770
to the model include
using machine learning
01:47:58.770 --> 01:48:03.230
and field expertise to inform a
dynamic consequence model.
01:48:03.230 --> 01:48:06.810
We also made updates
to the ignition probability,
01:48:06.810 --> 01:48:07.970
variable and consequence.
01:48:07.970 --> 01:48:11.820
I used the better target
key wildfire safety measures
01:48:11.820 --> 01:48:15.130
and then our new models
also placed a greater importance
01:48:15.130 --> 01:48:18.753
on the consequence of
wildfires over potential ignition.
01:48:19.890 --> 01:48:23.251
And then finally our
quantitative wildfire risk models
01:48:23.251 --> 01:48:27.100
are supplemented by the
underground intelligence
01:48:27.100 --> 01:48:30.700
from our public safety specialist team.
01:48:30.700 --> 01:48:33.930
The specialists are
generally former fire officials
01:48:33.930 --> 01:48:36.260
from Cal Fire and other agencies
01:48:36.260 --> 01:48:39.450
who have extensive experience knowledge
01:48:39.450 --> 01:48:41.650
and local familiarity that can further
01:48:41.650 --> 01:48:42.940
inform our understanding
01:48:42.940 --> 01:48:45.290
of the various risk
factors and local concerns.
01:48:49.303 --> 01:48:50.253
And the last slide.
01:48:52.670 --> 01:48:55.653
So lastly, in addition
to the many activities
01:48:55.653 --> 01:48:58.660
that we are focused
on delivering in 2021
01:48:59.495 --> 01:49:03.010
we are also pursuing set
of technologies that have
01:49:03.010 --> 01:49:05.720
potential to substantially
reduce fire risk
01:49:06.580 --> 01:49:09.120
including the first two
that are listed on the stage
01:49:09.120 --> 01:49:13.941
which are the Rapid Earth
Current Limiter and DTS
01:49:13.941 --> 01:49:17.160
Technology, which we are installing
01:49:17.160 --> 01:49:20.830
in HFTD portions of
our system to learn more
01:49:20.830 --> 01:49:24.483
about how they perform in
reducing harvest in real time.
01:49:25.810 --> 01:49:29.680
We will continue to
leverage our technology to
01:49:29.680 --> 01:49:32.830
give us greater
visibility in our system.
01:49:32.830 --> 01:49:36.640
And then now uses outputs from eight
01:49:36.640 --> 01:49:38.300
of a personalization model,
01:49:38.300 --> 01:49:40.260
which divides fire propagation
01:49:40.260 --> 01:49:41.970
and consequence outcomes
01:49:41.970 --> 01:49:44.560
based on available fields and weather,
01:49:44.560 --> 01:49:47.230
and actually helps to inform the
01:49:47.230 --> 01:49:49.810
risk event consequences components
01:49:49.810 --> 01:49:52.563
of our 2021 distribution of risk model.
01:49:54.060 --> 01:49:57.020
So with the combination
of mitigation activities
01:49:57.020 --> 01:50:01.966
within the WMP as well
as update service modeling
01:50:01.966 --> 01:50:02.799
and pursuit of new technologies,
01:50:02.799 --> 01:50:07.220
you know we can see
them take this seriously
01:50:07.220 --> 01:50:09.270
and are committed to
mitigating these risks
01:50:09.270 --> 01:50:12.201
across our exhibits(indistinct)
01:50:12.201 --> 01:50:14.110
And with that, I'll wrap it up.
01:50:14.110 --> 01:50:16.790
You have any questions
really want to thank you all
01:50:16.790 --> 01:50:19.890
for the time and the
opportunity to give an overview
01:50:19.890 --> 01:50:21.117
of our 2021 WMP.
01:50:23.770 --> 01:50:25.200
We appreciate it Kristina.
01:50:25.200 --> 01:50:28.510
I just have one quick question and that
01:50:28.510 --> 01:50:30.910
is when you have a circuit out
01:50:30.910 --> 01:50:34.043
on PSPS expediting it's frustration.
01:50:37.730 --> 01:50:39.000
Is it personnel?
01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:39.835
Is it?
01:50:39.835 --> 01:50:43.680
What do you think is
the biggest detractor
01:50:43.680 --> 01:50:45.693
from getting them back very quickly.
01:50:50.420 --> 01:50:55.420
So I am not the expert
on what, you know
01:50:57.706 --> 01:51:00.627
our restoration protocols
and, you know, the
01:51:00.627 --> 01:51:03.960
the various conditions
that affect our ability to
01:51:03.960 --> 01:51:08.270
restore the power, but I'm
happy to, you know, check in
01:51:08.270 --> 01:51:09.680
with the appropriate needs and,
01:51:09.680 --> 01:51:11.684
and get a sense from them.
01:51:11.684 --> 01:51:15.570
Like what are the, the
main limiting factors to,
01:51:15.570 --> 01:51:17.443
to the restoration component?
01:51:18.282 --> 01:51:19.880
I'd, I'd appreciate the follow-up.
01:51:19.880 --> 01:51:21.887
Is there any other questions
01:51:21.887 --> 01:51:22.810
for the board before we move
01:51:22.810 --> 01:51:25.183
to the next presentation quarter?
01:51:26.130 --> 01:51:28.760
Yeah, (indistinct)
01:51:28.760 --> 01:51:33.760
The reasoning behind only
annually inspecting structures
01:51:36.920 --> 01:51:41.920
in tier three zone, one
areas, and then going to a
01:51:42.120 --> 01:51:45.750
every three year inspection
in tier two, what is the
01:51:45.750 --> 01:51:48.993
what is the data or, or
what determined that,
01:51:50.674 --> 01:51:51.841
that schedule.
01:51:52.720 --> 01:51:53.870
What was used for that?
01:51:55.320 --> 01:51:59.100
Well, was the, you mean,
what was the rationale for that?
01:51:59.100 --> 01:51:59.933
Yeah, yeah.
01:52:01.530 --> 01:52:02.858
Okay.
01:52:02.858 --> 01:52:07.090
Again, not, not the
inspection's expert here
01:52:07.090 --> 01:52:11.103
but I'm also happy to take
that back to the team and
01:52:11.103 --> 01:52:16.103
and try to figure out how we
came up with that cadence.
01:52:17.690 --> 01:52:21.240
I do know that it's
been part of our plan
01:52:21.240 --> 01:52:25.329
and from last year's at
BNP, as well as this year
01:52:25.329 --> 01:52:30.010
but I am not privy
to the exact rationale
01:52:30.010 --> 01:52:33.933
for how we determined
that scheduling cadence.
01:52:35.850 --> 01:52:36.683
That's right.
01:52:36.683 --> 01:52:38.032
If you would take that back
01:52:38.032 --> 01:52:39.603
for follow-up we'd really appreciate it.
01:52:39.603 --> 01:52:41.703
Do we have any other
questions from the board?
01:52:43.070 --> 01:52:44.750
I see none, thank you.
01:52:44.750 --> 01:52:48.063
Kristina we really
appreciate your, your input.
01:52:49.120 --> 01:52:51.990
And moving on to Bill.
01:52:51.990 --> 01:52:54.410
I want to say Bill too,
but please correct me.
01:52:54.410 --> 01:52:55.930
The Managing Director of System
01:52:55.930 --> 01:52:59.490
and Asset strategy for
Southern California Edison.
01:52:59.490 --> 01:53:00.323
Bill?
01:53:01.451 --> 01:53:02.284
All right.
01:53:02.284 --> 01:53:03.117
That's right.
01:53:03.117 --> 01:53:03.950
You got it right.
01:53:03.950 --> 01:53:04.783
Thank you.
01:53:06.530 --> 01:53:07.670
Put on my headphones.
01:53:07.670 --> 01:53:09.823
So hopefully you get a better audio.
01:53:12.060 --> 01:53:13.223
Audio is good I hope?
01:53:14.510 --> 01:53:15.720
Great.
01:53:15.720 --> 01:53:16.553
All right, great.
01:53:16.553 --> 01:53:17.470
Thank you.
01:53:17.470 --> 01:53:18.560
Good afternoon, everyone.
01:53:18.560 --> 01:53:22.000
It's really a privilege for me
to be sharing some thoughts
01:53:22.000 --> 01:53:25.283
on our WMP with the
Safety Advisory Board.
01:53:26.662 --> 01:53:28.030
And I think in my
discussion this afternoon.
01:53:28.030 --> 01:53:30.840
I thought I'd take a
slightly different approach
01:53:30.840 --> 01:53:33.770
and focus more on the how
01:53:33.770 --> 01:53:36.720
and the why rather than just the why?.
01:53:36.720 --> 01:53:39.390
I think the, what part of
our WMP it's pretty well
01:53:39.390 --> 01:53:42.390
laid out in our recent updated filing.
01:53:42.390 --> 01:53:45.490
And you can certainly read
about that at your own leisure
01:53:45.490 --> 01:53:47.670
although it's, it's quite voluminous,
01:53:47.670 --> 01:53:50.200
it's 540 pages plus
01:53:50.200 --> 01:53:53.980
but there isn't a nice executive
summary about 10 pages.
01:53:53.980 --> 01:53:56.020
And if you're looking
for a condensed version
01:53:56.020 --> 01:53:59.120
that gives you a good
sense of, of what's in the plan.
01:53:59.120 --> 01:54:02.460
So I thought I would
reflect a bit on the
01:54:02.460 --> 01:54:04.271
the how and the why, and then, you know
01:54:04.271 --> 01:54:06.160
hopefully that'd be a value add.
01:54:06.160 --> 01:54:07.490
So would that preamble maybe
01:54:07.490 --> 01:54:08.840
if we go to the next slide,
01:54:09.888 --> 01:54:11.650
let's begin our conversation.
01:54:11.650 --> 01:54:14.690
So really reflecting back
01:54:14.690 --> 01:54:16.880
on the recent years
where we really stepped up
01:54:16.880 --> 01:54:20.620
this much more aggressive
wildfire risk mitigation approach.
01:54:20.620 --> 01:54:23.960
Our strategy fundamentally
had remained consistent
01:54:23.960 --> 01:54:27.220
with what we have laid out in late 2018.
01:54:27.220 --> 01:54:29.590
When we found what
we call the grid safety
01:54:29.590 --> 01:54:32.240
and resiliency program firing.
01:54:32.240 --> 01:54:34.220
There are three key elements
01:54:34.220 --> 01:54:37.190
as you probably all recognize
to the fire triangle and
01:54:37.190 --> 01:54:41.170
that corresponds to the
three key pillars of our strategy.
01:54:41.170 --> 01:54:44.080
First is the grid hardening
measures to reduce
01:54:44.080 --> 01:54:45.150
and eliminate the sources
01:54:45.150 --> 01:54:47.820
of ignition associated
with our power line.
01:54:47.820 --> 01:54:50.610
And then second really
it's the bolstering our
01:54:50.610 --> 01:54:53.340
situational awareness
capability to be better
01:54:53.340 --> 01:54:56.640
prepared to preemptively
address the incoming
01:54:56.640 --> 01:55:00.020
weather conditions that are
more conducive to wildfire.
01:55:00.020 --> 01:55:01.580
We started in aggressive approach
01:55:01.580 --> 01:55:03.940
on deployment of the
high definition cameras
01:55:03.940 --> 01:55:07.110
and weather stations
that are now expanding
01:55:07.110 --> 01:55:10.920
into sophisticated weather
modeling and predictions.
01:55:10.920 --> 01:55:12.920
And the third pillar
of our strategy really
01:55:12.920 --> 01:55:15.670
is around enhancing our
operational practices to go
01:55:15.670 --> 01:55:18.307
beyond the traditional
compliance requirements.
01:55:18.307 --> 01:55:21.940
So for example, on the
vegetation line clearing to
01:55:21.940 --> 01:55:24.560
further reduce the burnable
fuel that are adjacent
01:55:24.560 --> 01:55:25.840
to our power lines
01:55:25.840 --> 01:55:28.740
and things like inspection
and remediation.
01:55:28.740 --> 01:55:30.450
And I heard a lot about PSPS
01:55:30.450 --> 01:55:33.910
obviously we're continuing
to refine that protocol
01:55:33.910 --> 01:55:36.450
and we'll talk more
about that, that later
01:55:37.307 --> 01:55:39.200
if we believe this
strategy has served as well
01:55:39.200 --> 01:55:40.950
and we're seeing the positive results
01:55:40.950 --> 01:55:42.890
on the risk reduction perspective.
01:55:42.890 --> 01:55:44.530
So we are continuing this path
01:55:45.630 --> 01:55:47.940
but we're making
adjustments along the way.
01:55:47.940 --> 01:55:50.456
And our most recent 2020
01:55:50.456 --> 01:55:54.070
and 2021 updates
include included a number
01:55:54.070 --> 01:55:57.373
of key differentiators that
you see here on this slide.
01:55:58.660 --> 01:56:01.450
I would say just maybe
quickly highlight how
01:56:01.450 --> 01:56:03.730
we have evolved our plan.
01:56:03.730 --> 01:56:06.860
In this past year, we had
made significant improvements
01:56:06.860 --> 01:56:10.550
on our overall risk analysis
and risk quantification.
01:56:10.550 --> 01:56:14.410
I think that's really
foundational to continuously
01:56:14.410 --> 01:56:18.750
get better at risk reduction
and enable the prioritization
01:56:18.750 --> 01:56:22.030
of the various program
measures that we have in place
01:56:22.030 --> 01:56:24.970
by leveraging the available resources.
01:56:24.970 --> 01:56:29.040
The whole idea is to
maximize the risk reduction
01:56:29.040 --> 01:56:31.763
in the most expedient way possible.
01:56:33.220 --> 01:56:36.860
Second is expending on
our risk inform inspection
01:56:36.860 --> 01:56:38.890
and remediation program.
01:56:38.890 --> 01:56:41.210
And the third pillar that
it's understanding well
01:56:41.210 --> 01:56:45.110
PSPS it's an effective
mitigation measure.
01:56:45.110 --> 01:56:49.180
We fully recognize the
impact and frankly, hardship
01:56:49.180 --> 01:56:52.570
to our customers and the
communities and have been very
01:56:52.570 --> 01:56:54.920
actively working further
reducing the scope
01:56:54.920 --> 01:56:57.210
and the impact of PSPS.
01:56:57.210 --> 01:57:00.130
An exam for that is the finding ways
01:57:00.130 --> 01:57:02.940
to accelerate the
system hardening effort,
01:57:02.940 --> 01:57:04.930
looking at circuit reconfiguration to
01:57:04.930 --> 01:57:07.170
reduce the number of customers impacted
01:57:08.200 --> 01:57:10.450
extending on a broad set of efforts
01:57:10.450 --> 01:57:11.907
and add reducing the impact
01:57:11.907 --> 01:57:14.890
of the PSPS to our customers,
01:57:14.890 --> 01:57:16.490
including customer care program,
01:57:17.350 --> 01:57:19.860
to further mitigate these impact.
01:57:19.860 --> 01:57:22.880
And last but not least really
it's advancing the application
01:57:22.880 --> 01:57:27.590
of new technology and also
in developing new technologies
01:57:27.590 --> 01:57:30.870
such as artificial
intelligence machine learning
01:57:30.870 --> 01:57:33.790
that PG&E also reference
and think San Diego also are
01:57:33.790 --> 01:57:35.400
on this path as well.
01:57:35.400 --> 01:57:39.290
Then deploying system
sensor, events system sensor
01:57:39.290 --> 01:57:42.970
that are able to monitor
the condition of our grid
01:57:42.970 --> 01:57:45.980
and allow us to
preemptively address potential
01:57:45.980 --> 01:57:47.530
or developing issues that were,
01:57:48.515 --> 01:57:50.523
that we could be seeing on the grid.
01:57:51.610 --> 01:57:55.720
So, In terms of 2021, I
see here on the right column
01:57:55.720 --> 01:57:58.340
these are some of the
key differentiator building
01:57:58.340 --> 01:58:00.233
on the previous successes we have.
01:58:01.690 --> 01:58:03.540
First and foremost is the
01:58:03.540 --> 01:58:08.540
the risk analysis
factoring the PSPS risk.
01:58:08.560 --> 01:58:10.780
There was a lot of
discussion about this already
01:58:10.780 --> 01:58:14.010
but the idea here is to provide
a more level playing field
01:58:14.010 --> 01:58:18.650
in terms of waiting the,
the priorities, a sequence
01:58:18.650 --> 01:58:22.160
of system hardening measures
by factoring in the safety
01:58:22.160 --> 01:58:27.040
reliability, and financial impact
of PSPS to our customers.
01:58:27.040 --> 01:58:30.380
We've also involved evolve
our inspection strategy
01:58:30.380 --> 01:58:34.020
and planning and also the readiness
01:58:34.020 --> 01:58:36.240
for potential additional inspection.
01:58:36.240 --> 01:58:40.140
So think of it as a strive
team that go out there and find
01:58:40.140 --> 01:58:43.480
and fix problems that
are specifically targeting
01:58:43.480 --> 01:58:46.280
potential areas is a concern
that could be the result
01:58:47.156 --> 01:58:49.640
of weather dependent
outcomes in the coming months.
01:58:49.640 --> 01:58:51.610
If we don't get enough rain
01:58:51.610 --> 01:58:54.580
sort of the dry condition
continued to persist.
01:58:54.580 --> 01:58:56.623
What are some of the areas
01:58:56.623 --> 01:58:58.500
of concern that have
the greatest risk to us?
01:58:58.500 --> 01:58:59.960
The idea here is to be ready
01:58:59.960 --> 01:59:02.570
to be able to deploy these type of
01:59:02.570 --> 01:59:05.070
find and fix activity very quickly.
01:59:05.070 --> 01:59:07.823
As we get closer to the
peak of the fire seasons.
01:59:09.300 --> 01:59:11.260
We have grouped our high fire risk area
01:59:11.260 --> 01:59:13.010
into 11 climate zones.
01:59:13.010 --> 01:59:15.179
And these zones are defined
01:59:15.179 --> 01:59:16.850
by areas that have
similar vegetation types,
01:59:16.850 --> 01:59:19.560
similar weather conditions, typography
01:59:19.560 --> 01:59:22.280
and past fire history
01:59:23.280 --> 01:59:25.570
in the area system, hardening measures.
01:59:25.570 --> 01:59:28.440
We're also taking proactive
steps to have targeted
01:59:28.440 --> 01:59:31.323
mitigation measures based
on learning from our peers.
01:59:32.160 --> 01:59:34.500
Example of these are
focused on our power lines
01:59:34.500 --> 01:59:37.730
in the transmission
and transmission areas
01:59:37.730 --> 01:59:41.420
and specifically aiming at
the targeting particular type
01:59:41.420 --> 01:59:44.070
of hardware or replacing a type
01:59:44.070 --> 01:59:47.060
of switch that are our
sub transmission lines
01:59:47.060 --> 01:59:50.750
that are more susceptible
to mechanical misalignment
01:59:50.750 --> 01:59:54.450
due to the aging or warping
of the Nanking course arms.
01:59:54.450 --> 01:59:57.640
We are also significantly
making investments
01:59:57.640 --> 02:00:00.630
in information and data management.
02:00:00.630 --> 02:00:01.970
There are massive amount
02:00:01.970 --> 02:00:05.220
of wildfire risks related
data from our operations.
02:00:05.220 --> 02:00:08.230
Some are inspections
system hardening measures,
02:00:08.230 --> 02:00:10.930
agitation, inventory, et cetera
02:00:10.930 --> 02:00:13.620
and having a robust set of
data management technology
02:00:13.620 --> 02:00:15.420
platform will really pay dividends
02:00:15.420 --> 02:00:18.860
for us as we continue
to advance our program.
02:00:18.860 --> 02:00:21.140
And finally, one of the
other key differentiator
02:00:21.140 --> 02:00:24.430
for this year is a religion
to expand our partnership
02:00:24.430 --> 02:00:26.910
in supporting fires,
suppression resources
02:00:26.910 --> 02:00:30.660
in our service area, by
supplementing additional areas
02:00:30.660 --> 02:00:33.600
of suppression resources
that are so critical to
02:00:33.600 --> 02:00:35.470
prevent early onset of fire
02:00:35.470 --> 02:00:38.620
from growing into one,
that's hard to contain.
02:00:38.620 --> 02:00:41.598
Now, this largely draws
upon our experience we have
02:00:41.598 --> 02:00:44.160
with orange County fire authority
02:00:44.160 --> 02:00:47.720
in 2019 and 2020 timeframe.
02:00:47.720 --> 02:00:51.600
This year in 2021, we are
looking to identify a number
02:00:51.600 --> 02:00:54.680
of strategic locations where
we could position these areas
02:00:54.680 --> 02:00:56.950
of suppression capability as part
02:00:56.950 --> 02:00:59.970
of the so-called quick reaction force.
02:00:59.970 --> 02:01:02.560
Something that's unique in
Southern California in terms
02:01:02.560 --> 02:01:05.890
of fire suppression is
that five of the six counties
02:01:05.890 --> 02:01:10.080
that's how fire contracted
with, to provide firefighting
02:01:10.080 --> 02:01:12.070
in the state
responsibility area actually
02:01:12.070 --> 02:01:14.230
within Southern California.
02:01:14.230 --> 02:01:16.930
And the fact that these
are contract counties
02:01:16.930 --> 02:01:19.700
means that they have the
authority to act independently
02:01:19.700 --> 02:01:22.910
or in this case as a
collective to make changes
02:01:22.910 --> 02:01:26.670
in the process such as
ordering and deploying resources.
02:01:26.670 --> 02:01:29.610
So the creation of
the quick reaction force
02:01:29.610 --> 02:01:32.870
of air assets proposed
is aligned with the change
02:01:32.870 --> 02:01:35.610
in resource ordering, which
have been implemented.
02:01:35.610 --> 02:01:37.470
So we really appreciate the partnership
02:01:37.470 --> 02:01:39.420
with our fire suppression partners
02:01:39.420 --> 02:01:42.360
and these additional
aerial resources could be
02:01:42.360 --> 02:01:46.293
very significant in reducing
the fire risk consequences.
02:01:47.706 --> 02:01:49.006
Take it on the next slide.
02:01:51.000 --> 02:01:54.370
Alright, so this next slide here really
02:01:55.287 --> 02:01:56.430
is to give you a broader view
02:01:56.430 --> 02:01:59.940
of some of the foundational
key mitigation deployment
02:01:59.940 --> 02:02:02.350
and it's laid out in just highlighting
02:02:02.350 --> 02:02:04.620
the three categories of our strategy,
02:02:04.620 --> 02:02:07.750
infrastructure hardening
enhance operational practices
02:02:07.750 --> 02:02:10.080
and situational awareness.
02:02:10.080 --> 02:02:13.887
And so real quickly, I think
the numbers speaks for itself.
02:02:13.887 --> 02:02:18.510
Obviously we are, you can
see, we have continued to
02:02:18.510 --> 02:02:21.090
accelerate our cover
conducted deployment
02:02:21.090 --> 02:02:25.930
and expanded the coverage
by over 960 circuit miles
02:02:25.930 --> 02:02:30.300
in 2020 and going into 2021,
02:02:30.300 --> 02:02:33.273
we plan to install at
least a thousand miles,
02:02:34.600 --> 02:02:35.980
hopefully more.
02:02:35.980 --> 02:02:40.763
And the target for 2022,
it's around 1600 circuit miles.
02:02:41.620 --> 02:02:43.350
It's definitely a stretch
02:02:43.350 --> 02:02:48.330
that this is a situation for
us all, all hands on deck.
02:02:48.330 --> 02:02:52.360
We feel this is a
really important system
02:02:52.360 --> 02:02:54.580
hardening measure, and
could really make a difference.
02:02:54.580 --> 02:02:57.500
That's why, why we're
going all out on this.
02:02:57.500 --> 02:02:59.080
In terms of undergrounding,
02:02:59.080 --> 02:03:00.950
we're undergrounding circuit segments
02:03:00.950 --> 02:03:02.280
based on several factors
02:03:02.280 --> 02:03:04.930
that include the PSPS history
02:03:04.930 --> 02:03:08.820
look at areas with limited
egress routes, terrain
02:03:08.820 --> 02:03:10.003
and community feedback.
02:03:11.010 --> 02:03:13.750
In the area of inspection,
we're performing inspection
02:03:13.750 --> 02:03:17.280
on nearly a 200,000
distribution structure
02:03:18.180 --> 02:03:22.640
and 335,000 transmission structures
02:03:22.640 --> 02:03:24.350
in our high risk area.
02:03:24.350 --> 02:03:27.333
And then we are actively
remediating these findings.
02:03:28.990 --> 02:03:32.190
So as I mentioned, you know, we're
02:03:32.190 --> 02:03:35.660
we're also adding additional
system hardening measures.
02:03:35.660 --> 02:03:39.960
So I won't go over these in
too much detail, but just again
02:03:39.960 --> 02:03:43.650
building on the lessons
learned we have in 19 and 20
02:03:44.740 --> 02:03:48.270
and then obviously a
big area for us to focus
02:03:48.270 --> 02:03:51.550
on this year is finding
ways to reduce the impact
02:03:51.550 --> 02:03:56.550
of PSPS and actively looking for ways to
02:03:56.566 --> 02:04:01.440
truly eliminate the potential for PSPS.
02:04:01.440 --> 02:04:06.347
In fact, part of our plan
is not only to reduce the
02:04:07.226 --> 02:04:08.360
probability of PSPS
02:04:09.281 --> 02:04:10.610
but through system hardening measures
02:04:10.610 --> 02:04:13.470
do other type of
circuits and configuration
02:04:13.470 --> 02:04:15.870
looking for opportunity to remove
02:04:15.870 --> 02:04:18.890
a sub-set of those
customer completely away
02:04:18.890 --> 02:04:22.573
from ever being impacted
by PSPS again in the future.
02:04:23.970 --> 02:04:26.780
We're continuing to
explain our weather fleet
02:04:27.700 --> 02:04:30.480
and the pace that we're
anticipating is somewhere
02:04:30.480 --> 02:04:35.020
in the range of 375 to 475
weather stations per year.
02:04:35.020 --> 02:04:37.910
At this point, we have over
a thousand weather stations
02:04:37.910 --> 02:04:40.630
that are actively
monitoring the conditions
02:04:40.630 --> 02:04:43.420
and all of this information
are being ingested
02:04:43.420 --> 02:04:46.580
into our more advanced
modeling supercomputers.
02:04:46.580 --> 02:04:49.300
And the whole idea is we
wanted to get much better
02:04:49.300 --> 02:04:53.110
at weather forecasting and prediction
02:04:53.110 --> 02:04:54.860
and that would be a tremendous help
02:04:56.080 --> 02:04:59.120
for us to be able to
be much more precise
02:04:59.120 --> 02:05:02.313
in terms of operating
PSPS in the future.
02:05:04.600 --> 02:05:06.193
We could go to the next slide.
02:05:10.010 --> 02:05:10.843
On a second?
02:05:12.886 --> 02:05:15.410
Who is talking please?
02:05:15.410 --> 02:05:16.840
Excuse me.
02:05:16.840 --> 02:05:19.020
Who is talking
please, I can't quite hear.
02:05:19.020 --> 02:05:20.280
It's Ralph
02:05:20.280 --> 02:05:21.630
Oh, okay Ralph, go ahead.
02:05:22.470 --> 02:05:24.230
But just a real quick
clarifying question
02:05:24.230 --> 02:05:27.990
under looking at the cupboard
conductor replacement
02:05:27.990 --> 02:05:30.610
it sates a thousand circuit miles,
02:05:30.610 --> 02:05:32.920
circuit miles versus line miles.
02:05:32.920 --> 02:05:35.263
That, can you expand on that?
02:05:35.263 --> 02:05:37.189
Just for clarification.
02:05:37.189 --> 02:05:38.993
Yeah, thank you for that.
02:05:38.993 --> 02:05:41.130
That's essentially the
same, the differences
02:05:41.130 --> 02:05:46.120
in some areas with a
circuit consists of two phases
02:05:46.120 --> 02:05:49.060
majority of the circuits
are three phased circuits,
02:05:49.060 --> 02:05:50.810
so there are three phase conductors
02:05:51.880 --> 02:05:52.713
and we call that a circuit miles.
02:05:52.713 --> 02:05:55.200
And in some areas there
may be only two phases.
02:05:55.200 --> 02:05:56.670
It's a single pay service,
02:05:56.670 --> 02:05:58.707
only two to conductor (indistinct),
02:05:59.586 --> 02:06:02.300
we also consider that as a circuit mile.
02:06:02.300 --> 02:06:06.000
So, so just to make
it simple, if there was
02:06:06.000 --> 02:06:08.650
a thousand circle miles
that contain two conductors
02:06:08.650 --> 02:06:11.653
it would be theoretically
500 line miles?
02:06:12.730 --> 02:06:17.320
No, that will be theoretically
2000 conductor miles
02:06:17.320 --> 02:06:19.413
a thousand line miles.
02:06:20.750 --> 02:06:21.810
Okay, thank you.
02:06:21.810 --> 02:06:23.653
Yeah, so the, the
numbers we're showing here
02:06:23.653 --> 02:06:26.340
a thousand circuit miles, if it's
02:06:26.340 --> 02:06:30.000
if all the circuits based
on our prioritization
02:06:30.000 --> 02:06:33.680
of the risk model results
are all three phases.
02:06:33.680 --> 02:06:37.540
That will be 3000 conductor miles.
02:06:37.540 --> 02:06:38.373
Okay.
02:06:38.373 --> 02:06:40.110
Equivalent, if you will.
02:06:40.110 --> 02:06:41.330
Thanks for the clarification.
02:06:41.330 --> 02:06:43.720
I just know some,
somebody who's in line miles
02:06:45.641 --> 02:06:47.193
somebody who's in
your SEU circuit miles.
02:06:48.504 --> 02:06:50.830
And just one note, there's a difference.
02:06:50.830 --> 02:06:52.730
Yeah. It's an
indicator in this case
02:06:53.568 --> 02:06:56.182
it's a really somewhat interchangeable.
02:06:56.182 --> 02:06:58.260
Thanks for that question.
02:06:58.260 --> 02:07:00.083
Bill, this is board
member Porter.
02:07:00.928 --> 02:07:05.770
Did you have any, or have
you experienced any constraints
02:07:05.770 --> 02:07:09.003
on re-acquiring this covered conductor?
02:07:10.730 --> 02:07:12.770
Because I know in the
beginning when this was
02:07:12.770 --> 02:07:16.173
truly an initiative to go through and,
02:07:17.283 --> 02:07:21.053
and start re-conductoring
with this tree wire.
02:07:22.050 --> 02:07:22.883
Yep, yep, yep.
02:07:22.883 --> 02:07:25.631
It was a difficult
time for all three
02:07:25.631 --> 02:07:28.853
of the big IOUs to acquire it.
02:07:29.909 --> 02:07:30.760
Good, good question.
02:07:30.760 --> 02:07:34.520
We actually have not had difficulties
02:07:34.520 --> 02:07:36.820
because we recognize early on
02:07:36.820 --> 02:07:40.640
that this is going to be a
potential supplier constraints.
02:07:40.640 --> 02:07:45.640
So we search the globe for
covered conductor supplier.
02:07:46.470 --> 02:07:50.390
And at this point we
have a fairly robust set
02:07:50.390 --> 02:07:53.650
of production capacity
that had lined up in, in
02:07:53.650 --> 02:07:56.330
in all of our aggressive execution.
02:07:56.330 --> 02:07:57.490
So far, we have not run
02:07:57.490 --> 02:08:00.720
into cover conductor, being a constraint
02:08:00.720 --> 02:08:03.060
a supply to cover
conductor, being a constraint,
02:08:03.060 --> 02:08:03.893
would be well.
02:08:05.726 --> 02:08:06.559
Okay, thank you.
02:08:06.559 --> 02:08:07.550
Yeah. Okay.
02:08:07.550 --> 02:08:11.810
I had one and it's a
similar question to earlier.
02:08:11.810 --> 02:08:16.030
We're talking about PSPS
and in 2019, I get that.
02:08:16.030 --> 02:08:18.530
And 2020 actually does the same thing,
02:08:18.530 --> 02:08:23.020
2021, I get the circuits
specific mitigation plans
02:08:23.020 --> 02:08:25.680
in the more either section analyzers
02:08:25.680 --> 02:08:27.550
or switches you can do to
02:08:28.726 --> 02:08:32.171
carve people off from
being exposed to PSPS.
02:08:32.171 --> 02:08:36.490
There's now a movement
that disclosure is required.
02:08:36.490 --> 02:08:38.780
If you're trying to sell your house
02:08:38.780 --> 02:08:41.630
that you are exposed to PSPS, and
02:08:41.630 --> 02:08:44.200
that ramification is
going to be fairly negative
02:08:45.234 --> 02:08:46.430
to homeowners at large.
02:08:46.430 --> 02:08:47.863
So, but my question being is,
02:08:47.863 --> 02:08:52.863
I get were doing the same approach
02:08:53.230 --> 02:08:56.380
with some mitigation and
new customer care programs.
02:08:56.380 --> 02:09:00.120
Is there anything
being done to expedite,
02:09:00.120 --> 02:09:04.890
to carve out those circuits
that were taken out so PSPS
02:09:04.890 --> 02:09:08.530
and if it's safe,
expedite their inspection
02:09:08.530 --> 02:09:10.960
and return to service.
02:09:10.960 --> 02:09:11.840
Just trying to figure out
02:09:11.840 --> 02:09:14.690
if we have to take them out,
can we get them back faster?
02:09:15.620 --> 02:09:17.190
Yeah, absolutely.
02:09:17.190 --> 02:09:20.260
So let me first address
the first question
02:09:20.260 --> 02:09:23.950
in terms of accelerating
the mitigation so
02:09:23.950 --> 02:09:28.240
that we could remove them
from possible future PSPS.
02:09:28.240 --> 02:09:30.880
We were very actively looking
02:09:30.880 --> 02:09:31.945
at that and it's part of our overall
02:09:31.945 --> 02:09:36.945
PSPS action plan that
we have recently filed with,
02:09:38.910 --> 02:09:41.473
with the CQC as well.
02:09:43.867 --> 02:09:45.467
And in terms of restorations, I think
02:09:45.467 --> 02:09:48.290
that also heard the question earlier
02:09:48.290 --> 02:09:50.110
during the discussion with PG&E.
02:09:50.110 --> 02:09:52.330
I think one of the volt
blocks that we have
02:09:52.330 --> 02:09:57.330
is obviously post event inspection.
02:09:58.220 --> 02:10:01.860
And in some cases that
say the wind has subsided
02:10:01.860 --> 02:10:03.623
at two o'clock in the morning,
02:10:04.830 --> 02:10:08.160
the having adequate daylight
02:10:08.160 --> 02:10:11.170
to perform the inspection safely
02:10:11.170 --> 02:10:14.390
it could be a factor in
delaying the restoration.
02:10:14.390 --> 02:10:17.860
And in some cases we simply
are not able to deploy resources
02:10:17.860 --> 02:10:21.440
in the middle of night because
the safety concern for them
02:10:21.440 --> 02:10:23.690
typically, you know,
if it's safe to do so
02:10:23.690 --> 02:10:27.170
we will deployed
resources for the inspection
02:10:28.120 --> 02:10:30.170
but to be effective in some
02:10:30.170 --> 02:10:32.970
of these more treacherous
terrain conditions
02:10:34.150 --> 02:10:36.840
to daylight it's best
to perform these type
02:10:36.840 --> 02:10:39.230
of inspection and always
will get a better assessment
02:10:39.230 --> 02:10:41.477
of what's actually out there.
02:10:41.477 --> 02:10:43.750
So that could be a potential delay.
02:10:43.750 --> 02:10:47.329
We are also exploring drone
technologies to do these type
02:10:47.329 --> 02:10:50.520
of posts, restoration patrol
02:10:50.520 --> 02:10:53.370
but this is a really
important safety factor for us.
02:10:53.370 --> 02:10:55.900
We must make sure the lines are safe
02:10:55.900 --> 02:10:57.310
before we can reenergize them.
02:10:57.310 --> 02:10:59.682
So lots of effort or looking
02:10:59.682 --> 02:11:03.353
at what can we do to accelerate
the restoration process.
02:11:06.026 --> 02:11:09.320
And this is, this is board
member Porter again.
02:11:09.320 --> 02:11:11.300
And when you say deploying resources
02:11:11.300 --> 02:11:14.610
have you had any issues with the amount,
02:11:14.610 --> 02:11:18.040
or the number of resources you can
02:11:18.040 --> 02:11:22.100
called upon to do after event or
02:11:24.160 --> 02:11:26.803
pre-energization patrols?
02:11:28.850 --> 02:11:33.520
We have not run
into that situation yet
02:11:33.520 --> 02:11:36.720
and keep in mind most
of our events or the scale
02:11:36.720 --> 02:11:41.000
the size of it by relative
comparison to our overall
02:11:41.000 --> 02:11:44.520
sort of customer population
insight is relatively small
02:11:44.520 --> 02:11:46.760
and we intend to keep it that way.
02:11:46.760 --> 02:11:50.100
In fact, we on a
trajectory to further reduce
02:11:50.100 --> 02:11:51.590
that in a meaningful ways.
02:11:51.590 --> 02:11:55.602
So at least I don't
see that in the calculus,
02:11:55.602 --> 02:11:58.863
in the near future, based
on the trajectory that we're on.
02:12:00.810 --> 02:12:04.480
Again, we, we have examined
the deployment of different
02:12:04.480 --> 02:12:07.750
types of resources
instead of the traditional
02:12:07.750 --> 02:12:10.454
Lyman and trouble many of you,
02:12:10.454 --> 02:12:12.524
well, we may be able to deploy some
02:12:12.524 --> 02:12:15.020
of our more experienced
service planner that will also
02:12:15.020 --> 02:12:17.800
conduct these type of
inspection to speed up the cycle.
02:12:17.800 --> 02:12:20.900
And in some cases
where access is difficult, we
02:12:20.900 --> 02:12:24.880
would deploy air patrol to
be able to do this very quickly
02:12:24.880 --> 02:12:27.310
and having service in thin commender
02:12:27.310 --> 02:12:29.290
as myself and some of these events.
02:12:29.290 --> 02:12:32.310
Sometimes we'll queue up
the resources in the middle
02:12:32.310 --> 02:12:35.165
of the night, say for
example, it's three o'clock
02:12:35.165 --> 02:12:38.640
in the morning, knowing
that the surrogate could come
02:12:38.640 --> 02:12:41.040
out of the wind
conditions, come daylight
02:12:41.040 --> 02:12:44.090
we're marshaling the
resources ready to go
02:12:44.090 --> 02:12:45.530
at the first break of daylight.
02:12:45.530 --> 02:12:48.773
So we could start the
restoration inspection process.
02:12:51.510 --> 02:12:54.110
Board member Mader, you
had a comment or question.
02:12:54.950 --> 02:12:58.800
Yeah. I just really wanted
to call out that, you know
02:12:58.800 --> 02:13:03.370
it's been a big change
from, you know, presentation
02:13:03.370 --> 02:13:08.370
in February of 2020 in
that now the sort of, couple
02:13:09.380 --> 02:13:12.760
of unison is considering
hardening as a factor to
02:13:12.760 --> 02:13:17.720
increase the wind speeds
that they can leave a circuit
02:13:17.720 --> 02:13:20.863
in power and not engage in the PSPS.
02:13:22.070 --> 02:13:24.360
You know, this is in keeping
with one of the recommendations
02:13:24.360 --> 02:13:26.980
of the board, and I look
forward to the opportunity to
02:13:26.980 --> 02:13:29.630
follow up and learn more in detail,
02:13:29.630 --> 02:13:33.550
how you've been able to
make those calculations
02:13:33.550 --> 02:13:35.170
to be able to determine when it's safe
02:13:35.170 --> 02:13:37.420
to be able to raise the
wind speed threshold.
02:13:39.040 --> 02:13:40.700
It sounds like a
question that we can put
02:13:40.700 --> 02:13:43.410
on our followup list bill
rather than answer right now
02:13:43.410 --> 02:13:45.310
but I think it's an excellent inquiry.
02:13:46.380 --> 02:13:47.213
Certainly.
02:13:47.213 --> 02:13:48.850
Okay, do we have
any other comments?
02:13:52.150 --> 02:13:53.220
Okay.
02:13:53.220 --> 02:13:57.790
Okay, so maybe we'll
advance to the next slide.
02:13:57.790 --> 02:14:00.990
And this is the one I think it's kind
02:14:00.990 --> 02:14:03.440
of the important slide is,
02:14:03.440 --> 02:14:05.890
this really sort of the foundation
02:14:05.890 --> 02:14:09.320
of our overall wildfire
risk mitigation approach.
02:14:09.320 --> 02:14:12.070
And, and I think it's really
important that we started
02:14:12.070 --> 02:14:14.690
with a very good understanding
of what are the driver
02:14:14.690 --> 02:14:17.380
of the sources of
ignition that we're seeing.
02:14:17.380 --> 02:14:21.250
And this is accomplished
through detailed risk analysis.
02:14:21.250 --> 02:14:25.780
Fundamentally, when we
look at initially associated
02:14:25.780 --> 02:14:27.540
with power lines, there
are two key factors.
02:14:27.540 --> 02:14:30.730
One is the wind-driven
whether events and
02:14:30.730 --> 02:14:33.780
the other are the fuel
conditions that are on the ground.
02:14:33.780 --> 02:14:37.420
So that's incorporated into
the weather events, if you will.
02:14:37.420 --> 02:14:40.183
So these are the two
key areas that we have.
02:14:41.300 --> 02:14:42.220
And in order for us to tackle this
02:14:42.220 --> 02:14:43.620
we really need to understand
02:14:44.628 --> 02:14:46.260
what's driving these type of ignition.
02:14:46.260 --> 02:14:49.190
So historically the pie
chart here give you a sense
02:14:49.190 --> 02:14:51.790
of what is causing the majority
02:14:51.790 --> 02:14:54.380
of ignition in our service area.
02:14:54.380 --> 02:14:56.692
And so looking at the
five-year average, this chart
02:14:56.692 --> 02:15:01.692
has been recently updated
to include the 2020 data.
02:15:02.500 --> 02:15:06.310
And so you see the two biggest portions
02:15:06.310 --> 02:15:08.157
here is the context
02:15:08.157 --> 02:15:10.830
on the object and the
equipment and facility failures.
02:15:10.830 --> 02:15:13.780
And this is why the cover
conductor program is
02:15:13.780 --> 02:15:16.220
such a foundational
mitigation activity that we
02:15:16.220 --> 02:15:17.883
thought was so important to do.
02:15:19.100 --> 02:15:21.550
Keeping in mind, a cover
conductor program is not
02:15:21.550 --> 02:15:23.440
just replacing the cover conductor.
02:15:23.440 --> 02:15:26.450
It includes additional
assessment of, pole loading.
02:15:26.450 --> 02:15:29.850
It includes replacement with Kloss arm
02:15:29.850 --> 02:15:32.690
with composite class arms,
whether it's equipment involved.
02:15:32.690 --> 02:15:35.430
We upgrade those to
the latest design standards
02:15:36.520 --> 02:15:39.310
not only applying
copper conductor, but also
02:15:39.310 --> 02:15:44.190
we essentially are covering
all the bare exposed parts.
02:15:44.190 --> 02:15:47.850
The splices, the jumper
leads the transformer bushings.
02:15:47.850 --> 02:15:50.380
So essentially the entire
poor head assembly
02:15:50.380 --> 02:15:52.360
are being completely covered.
02:15:52.360 --> 02:15:55.390
So it not just address
the pie that's associated
02:15:55.390 --> 02:15:59.030
with the contacts on object,
but also cover a big portion
02:15:59.030 --> 02:16:02.510
of the issue with that are
under the sort of the yellow PI
02:16:02.510 --> 02:16:05.553
under the equipment,
the facility failure as well.
02:16:05.553 --> 02:16:06.386
Right?
02:16:06.386 --> 02:16:10.000
So now, now that we know
how to address the issue
02:16:10.000 --> 02:16:12.930
the challenge is how do
we apply the resources
02:16:12.930 --> 02:16:16.080
so that we can drive down
the risks most expeditiously
02:16:16.080 --> 02:16:20.612
and that's where this risk
prioritization model comes in.
02:16:20.612 --> 02:16:22.790
And I think you heard
about that from a little bit
02:16:22.790 --> 02:16:26.260
from PG&E in San Diego
as well, but in our case
02:16:26.260 --> 02:16:27.970
we really have poured in a lot
02:16:27.970 --> 02:16:32.970
of energy and effort or
two events, these analysis
02:16:33.320 --> 02:16:36.100
and basically considers two parts
02:16:36.100 --> 02:16:39.140
is the probability and
the consequence portion.
02:16:39.140 --> 02:16:42.310
And the way we looked at
probability is be able to map
02:16:42.310 --> 02:16:45.853
each of these type of fault events to,
02:16:47.077 --> 02:16:49.360
to the actual asset level at the circuit
02:16:49.360 --> 02:16:51.610
or sub circuit at the segment level.
02:16:51.610 --> 02:16:53.770
So we can understand
what are the contribution
02:16:53.770 --> 02:16:58.030
from that particular circuit
segment based on the condition
02:16:58.030 --> 02:17:02.460
of the infrastructure itself,
based on the type of history
02:17:02.460 --> 02:17:05.150
and the type of falls that
we've seen in the past
02:17:05.150 --> 02:17:08.700
and applying a machine
learning model to really
02:17:08.700 --> 02:17:12.440
advance these prediction capability
02:17:12.440 --> 02:17:16.500
just to give you an example,
we've developed these models
02:17:16.500 --> 02:17:19.610
for each type or each class
that equipment transformers
02:17:19.610 --> 02:17:23.790
overhead conductors
switches and so forth.
02:17:23.790 --> 02:17:27.130
I'll take, take the overhead
conductor as an example.
02:17:27.130 --> 02:17:31.100
Using machine learning model,
we're able to predict the type
02:17:31.100 --> 02:17:35.483
of potential failures up to
four times, radar accuracy
02:17:36.630 --> 02:17:41.090
then the traditional subject
matter engineering expertise
02:17:41.090 --> 02:17:41.923
if you will.
02:17:41.923 --> 02:17:44.390
And so this has actually
been validated using
02:17:44.390 --> 02:17:45.860
our historical data.
02:17:45.860 --> 02:17:48.730
And so this is a tremendous
advance that we have.
02:17:48.730 --> 02:17:51.550
So that's just one half of the equation.
02:17:51.550 --> 02:17:54.030
The other half of the
equation is truly understand
02:17:54.030 --> 02:17:55.890
if you have a ignition that happens
02:17:55.890 --> 02:17:59.230
at a particular location, what
are the potential outcome
02:17:59.230 --> 02:18:01.900
of that ignition as
a result of that fire?
02:18:01.900 --> 02:18:04.680
And a lot of factor goes into that.
02:18:04.680 --> 02:18:08.550
Obviously yesterday's
panel discussion got
02:18:08.550 --> 02:18:10.473
into great detail and role modeling.
02:18:11.530 --> 02:18:14.260
This is an area that we
have a lot of confidence in
02:18:14.260 --> 02:18:17.560
and we're also are open
02:18:17.560 --> 02:18:20.780
to learning and continuously improve.
02:18:20.780 --> 02:18:22.440
But the fundamental engine
02:18:22.440 --> 02:18:25.390
behind this is the fire
propagation model,
02:18:25.390 --> 02:18:28.630
truly understand you know, what are the
02:18:28.630 --> 02:18:29.970
once the ignition star,
02:18:29.970 --> 02:18:31.690
how would that fire propagate?
02:18:31.690 --> 02:18:34.600
How would that fire
grow based on topography
02:18:34.600 --> 02:18:35.664
based on wind direction, speed,
02:18:35.664 --> 02:18:39.580
based on historical
weather pattern that we see
02:18:39.580 --> 02:18:43.710
at that particular location
and all of this is layering
02:18:43.710 --> 02:18:47.930
in the high fire risk area,
that the circuits that we have
02:18:47.930 --> 02:18:49.470
the fuel conditions that we know
02:18:49.470 --> 02:18:52.090
about based on the
datasets that we gathered
02:18:52.090 --> 02:18:54.800
the population density
and the structural density.
02:18:54.800 --> 02:18:57.850
So we could model if an ignition occurs
02:18:57.850 --> 02:18:59.810
in a particular circuit segment.
02:18:59.810 --> 02:19:02.570
What is the outcome of that ignition
02:19:02.570 --> 02:19:04.640
in six hours and eight hours
02:19:04.640 --> 02:19:07.000
or even longer beyond that,
02:19:07.000 --> 02:19:08.910
that serves as the basis
02:19:08.910 --> 02:19:13.030
combining both the probability
and the consequences
02:19:13.030 --> 02:19:16.240
give us a sense of the
true exposure, risk exposure
02:19:16.240 --> 02:19:17.650
and what we're doing is using
02:19:17.650 --> 02:19:20.440
that as the prioritization
method for us to deploy.
02:19:20.440 --> 02:19:22.320
So when we talked about earlier
02:19:22.320 --> 02:19:26.670
we plan on doing a
thousand circuit miles in 2021.
02:19:26.670 --> 02:19:28.300
the art is to select
02:19:28.300 --> 02:19:31.730
which are the next thousand
circuit miles to apply.
02:19:31.730 --> 02:19:34.340
And so this model is really a sort
02:19:34.340 --> 02:19:36.330
of a key two key ingredient
02:19:36.330 --> 02:19:39.303
to our overall risk reduction efforts.
02:19:40.810 --> 02:19:43.210
Hopefully they'll give you a
sense of a little bit of a peek
02:19:43.210 --> 02:19:45.973
behind the sort of the
analysis engine that we have.
02:19:47.777 --> 02:19:49.923
We could maybe go to the next slide.
02:19:50.830 --> 02:19:51.950
Yeah, so this is the area
02:19:51.950 --> 02:19:54.430
obviously a lot of interest in PSPS.
02:19:54.430 --> 02:19:57.980
And again, I just wanted
to really emphasize
02:19:57.980 --> 02:20:02.770
that even though PSPS is
an effective mitigation measure
02:20:02.770 --> 02:20:04.980
we completely understand the hardship
02:20:04.980 --> 02:20:07.320
that this has resulted for our customer.
02:20:07.320 --> 02:20:08.940
And we are very actively working
02:20:08.940 --> 02:20:12.463
on further reducing the impact of PSPS.
02:20:13.410 --> 02:20:15.960
In fact, maybe just the anecdotal story.
02:20:15.960 --> 02:20:19.530
I just recently led I
triply resilience task force
02:20:19.530 --> 02:20:21.680
and develop a white
paper around resilience
02:20:22.819 --> 02:20:24.900
so only understand and appreciate
02:20:24.900 --> 02:20:27.760
how important electric service is
02:20:27.760 --> 02:20:29.240
to our modern day society.
02:20:29.240 --> 02:20:30.410
Everybody depends on it.
02:20:30.410 --> 02:20:32.403
It's basically a life necessity.
02:20:34.040 --> 02:20:36.810
Maybe just to talk a little
bit about some key principle
02:20:36.810 --> 02:20:39.453
of how SCE applies PSPS.
02:20:40.420 --> 02:20:42.440
First and foremost is we apply.
02:20:42.440 --> 02:20:44.950
What's called the incident
management system
02:20:44.950 --> 02:20:47.330
with well trained incident
management team to
02:20:47.330 --> 02:20:50.640
conduct all operations relating to PSPS
02:20:50.640 --> 02:20:54.260
whether it be initial onset
of customer notification
02:20:54.260 --> 02:20:56.592
in the moment decision-making,
02:20:56.592 --> 02:20:58.970
the operational assessments
02:20:58.970 --> 02:21:01.454
deployment of resources that we have
02:21:01.454 --> 02:21:03.910
to pre patrol prior to
02:21:03.910 --> 02:21:05.570
an actual incoming weather events
02:21:06.790 --> 02:21:08.240
monitoring the conditions
02:21:08.240 --> 02:21:10.320
at the circuits
monitoring the condition of
02:21:10.320 --> 02:21:12.400
the weather that are being reported
02:21:12.400 --> 02:21:14.500
on the weather station real time
02:21:14.500 --> 02:21:17.640
doing a PSPS events
that are all managed on the
02:21:17.640 --> 02:21:22.080
this incident command
system with IMT members
02:21:22.080 --> 02:21:24.040
in the management team
members that are trained
02:21:24.040 --> 02:21:25.680
in their specific task.
02:21:25.680 --> 02:21:28.380
So that's key differentiator number one.
02:21:28.380 --> 02:21:30.960
Second one is the
decision making in terms
02:21:30.960 --> 02:21:34.610
of whether to actually
be energized is based
02:21:34.610 --> 02:21:36.920
on actual grid and weather conditions
02:21:36.920 --> 02:21:40.003
for individual circuits
or sub circuit level.
02:21:41.060 --> 02:21:44.330
We do not make these decisions
based on forecasted whether.
02:21:44.330 --> 02:21:47.230
So this is obviously an area
02:21:47.230 --> 02:21:49.460
of potential confusion
for our customer, because
02:21:49.460 --> 02:21:53.510
in some cases we will
provide the events notification
02:21:53.510 --> 02:21:56.330
that there's a likelihood a
customer may be de-energized
02:21:56.330 --> 02:21:58.950
but we don't want to de-energize just
02:21:58.950 --> 02:22:01.750
because we send out
those events notification.
02:22:01.750 --> 02:22:04.730
We only de-energize the
field, the conditions are right
02:22:04.730 --> 02:22:07.790
at the moment where we
felt there's an imminent danger
02:22:07.790 --> 02:22:10.630
to the particular location
and the community involved.
02:22:10.630 --> 02:22:12.930
And that's when we exercise that.
02:22:12.930 --> 02:22:15.620
Beyond that we've invested a lot
02:22:16.718 --> 02:22:19.340
of automation and
sectionalizing technology
02:22:19.340 --> 02:22:22.820
and we're using light using
that to its full advantage
02:22:22.820 --> 02:22:26.070
to be able to isolate
only a small of the circuit.
02:22:26.070 --> 02:22:28.683
So that has greatly limited
the number of customers
02:22:28.683 --> 02:22:32.800
that are being impacted each
time we need to de-energize.
02:22:32.800 --> 02:22:34.770
But all that being said
02:22:34.770 --> 02:22:37.500
we recognize need to
continuously improve.
02:22:37.500 --> 02:22:41.850
And, and this really falls
in, in two buckets events
02:22:41.850 --> 02:22:44.700
in customer care program
that I mentioned about briefly
02:22:44.700 --> 02:22:47.580
this include, for example,
we learn about there
02:22:47.580 --> 02:22:50.060
are customer that are on well water.
02:22:50.060 --> 02:22:53.290
And so we're providing a
generator, a rebate for customer
02:22:53.290 --> 02:22:55.493
on well water and high fire risk area.
02:22:56.410 --> 02:22:59.480
And also looking at targeted
deployment of system
02:22:59.480 --> 02:23:03.730
hardening where we
biweekly increase or elevate the
02:23:03.730 --> 02:23:07.384
threshold where we need
to actually exercise PSPS.
02:23:07.384 --> 02:23:12.000
And example of that is we may
be through our risk modeling.
02:23:12.000 --> 02:23:15.000
We, the you're only
looking at the fire risk
02:23:15.000 --> 02:23:18.460
but going forward, we're
combining PSPS risk
02:23:18.460 --> 02:23:22.130
as overall equation in
evaluating and prioritizing the
02:23:22.130 --> 02:23:26.460
deployment of the system party measured.
02:23:26.460 --> 02:23:29.970
And that's a result of,
of our concerted effort
02:23:29.970 --> 02:23:32.780
particularly in the PSP as action plan.
02:23:32.780 --> 02:23:36.730
We're looking at circuit that
have been frequently impacted
02:23:36.730 --> 02:23:40.330
and diving in and
understand what are some
02:23:40.330 --> 02:23:43.557
of the tangible actions that
we can take between now
02:23:43.557 --> 02:23:47.650
and the onset of this upcoming
fire season to aggressively
02:23:47.650 --> 02:23:50.090
deploy some of the
medication measures so that we
02:23:50.090 --> 02:23:54.470
could reduce the chance of
needing to call upon PSPS
02:23:54.470 --> 02:23:57.130
for those particular segments
02:23:57.130 --> 02:23:58.723
of customers that are involved.
02:23:59.700 --> 02:24:03.350
So our PSPS action
plan focus on five areas,
02:24:03.350 --> 02:24:05.730
reduce the use the PSPS,
02:24:05.730 --> 02:24:07.710
providing transparency in a decision
02:24:07.710 --> 02:24:12.220
making process, mitigating
the impacts of PSPS
02:24:12.220 --> 02:24:16.870
keeping our customers and
partners informed of the process.
02:24:16.870 --> 02:24:20.603
And, and I'll finally last
but not least enhance
02:24:20.603 --> 02:24:22.170
and improve our post event reporting.
02:24:22.170 --> 02:24:25.500
This is part of the
ESRBA a reporting App
02:24:25.500 --> 02:24:27.751
to each event that we have.
02:24:27.751 --> 02:24:30.587
On the upper right here of
the little dialog box here that
02:24:30.587 --> 02:24:35.240
shows give you some stats
of comparing 2020 results
02:24:35.240 --> 02:24:37.433
versus 2019 results.
02:24:38.910 --> 02:24:41.210
There is some, there
are some pluses and there
02:24:42.168 --> 02:24:45.100
are some minuses of
overall in comparing to 2019
02:24:45.100 --> 02:24:48.560
we are improving in the outage duration
02:24:48.560 --> 02:24:51.350
33% reduction, 18 hours.
02:24:51.350 --> 02:24:55.550
Average is what we saw
last year versus prior year.
02:24:55.550 --> 02:24:58.297
So that's 33% improvement.
02:24:58.297 --> 02:25:03.297
In the 2021 year, our commitment
is to, to have meaningful
02:25:04.680 --> 02:25:08.090
and significant reduction
on PSPS impact.
02:25:08.090 --> 02:25:11.830
We looking at 20% or greater
reduction in terms of number
02:25:11.830 --> 02:25:15.350
of circuits or segments
being de-energized,
02:25:15.350 --> 02:25:19.763
looking at reducing the
duration 35% or greater.
02:25:20.670 --> 02:25:23.470
Looking at reducing the number
of customers that are being
02:25:23.470 --> 02:25:27.180
impacted by PSPS by 15% or greater.
02:25:27.180 --> 02:25:29.640
And that's a commitment that we've made
02:25:29.640 --> 02:25:33.913
and we're very actively
working towards that goal.
02:25:36.154 --> 02:25:38.850
Maybe if we could go
to the next slide like it
02:25:40.650 --> 02:25:41.900
how are we doing on time?
02:25:42.748 --> 02:25:44.350
Yeah, I see we're coming up on time.
02:25:44.350 --> 02:25:46.246
Just maybe provide a bit more
02:25:46.246 --> 02:25:49.360
in terms of how we're thinking
about applying technology to
02:25:51.420 --> 02:25:54.660
to help accelerate and
increase the effectiveness
02:25:54.660 --> 02:25:56.970
of our wifi medication measures.
02:25:56.970 --> 02:25:59.203
And this is really
quite an exciting area.
02:26:01.460 --> 02:26:04.250
So what you're seeing here
are some example across
02:26:04.250 --> 02:26:05.710
the various different domains
02:26:05.710 --> 02:26:08.410
of wildfire risk mitigation measures.
02:26:08.410 --> 02:26:11.210
These ranges from the
latest sensors and cutting edge
02:26:11.210 --> 02:26:14.860
imaging capability to
artificial intelligence machine
02:26:14.860 --> 02:26:17.763
learning to big data analytics.
02:26:18.600 --> 02:26:22.010
I'll just kind of go walk
you through this real briefly.
02:26:22.010 --> 02:26:24.025
It shouldn't take very long.
02:26:24.025 --> 02:26:26.510
So inspection technology
on the upper left
02:26:26.510 --> 02:26:27.723
Left, for example,
02:26:29.110 --> 02:26:30.880
which you see here is a
02:26:30.880 --> 02:26:34.090
multispectral image camera that is down
02:26:34.090 --> 02:26:38.080
to the online helicopters,
the imagers clockwise
02:26:38.080 --> 02:26:40.180
in the top left, as
you're looking at them
02:26:41.069 --> 02:26:46.040
or a Sony 64 mega pixel
was still imager right next to it.
02:26:46.040 --> 02:26:48.570
It's a high definition video imager,
02:26:48.570 --> 02:26:53.270
right below it is the video
metrics, infrared imager.
02:26:53.270 --> 02:26:57.490
And then there is a laser
range finder and then sort of
02:26:57.490 --> 02:27:00.910
around the clock, if
you will is the decor,
02:27:00.910 --> 02:27:03.340
UV corona imagery
that are able to pick up
02:27:05.140 --> 02:27:08.873
corona activity or
ultraviolet discharges.
02:27:09.880 --> 02:27:12.560
And then the image below
the camera lenses give you
02:27:13.440 --> 02:27:15.570
a visual rendering of
the data being captured to
02:27:15.570 --> 02:27:17.720
determine the
clearances of this distance
02:27:17.720 --> 02:27:20.977
between nearby vegetation
and our power line.
02:27:20.977 --> 02:27:23.050
And these can be displayed and situated
02:27:23.050 --> 02:27:25.700
to give our veggie
team a very quick view
02:27:25.700 --> 02:27:28.720
of the potential area
that needs attention.
02:27:28.720 --> 02:27:30.270
In a top center we talk about
02:27:30.270 --> 02:27:31.933
artificial intelligence
and machine learning.
02:27:31.933 --> 02:27:35.330
Here is another example
we're applying this.
02:27:35.330 --> 02:27:37.290
Then earlier I talked
about using machine
02:27:37.290 --> 02:27:39.650
learning to determine the probability
02:27:39.650 --> 02:27:42.700
of ignition as part of
our overall risk model.
02:27:42.700 --> 02:27:44.950
Here is another example
where using machine
02:27:44.950 --> 02:27:47.430
learning to advance our capability
02:27:47.430 --> 02:27:49.643
of detecting potential problems.
02:27:51.950 --> 02:27:53.980
We're using these high-tech image
02:27:53.980 --> 02:27:56.850
to capture and assess the condition
02:27:56.850 --> 02:27:58.920
of the infrastructure that we're seeing.
02:27:58.920 --> 02:28:02.890
But so far, at least
previous to this advancement
02:28:02.890 --> 02:28:05.340
would be lying in subject
matter expertise to pull
02:28:05.340 --> 02:28:08.320
up the images one by
one, looking at the condition
02:28:08.320 --> 02:28:10.300
and determining
whether there's additional
02:28:10.300 --> 02:28:12.260
action that are necessary.
02:28:12.260 --> 02:28:13.650
That takes time.
02:28:13.650 --> 02:28:16.010
And plus there is literally millions
02:28:16.010 --> 02:28:18.260
of these pictures are coming in
02:28:18.260 --> 02:28:22.083
just think about each one of
these at 50, 60 mega pixels.
02:28:23.130 --> 02:28:26.140
The infrastructure that's
required to make this happen.
02:28:26.140 --> 02:28:29.110
It's it's not insignificant at all.
02:28:29.110 --> 02:28:32.030
So we're advancing analogy
02:28:32.030 --> 02:28:34.890
an analytical capability
to be able to quickly
02:28:34.890 --> 02:28:38.190
assess the condition of the image it
02:28:38.190 --> 02:28:41.150
within hours and days rather than weeks.
02:28:41.150 --> 02:28:44.570
So we can very quickly
identify potential areas
02:28:44.570 --> 02:28:48.408
of concern and get
that in the work order list
02:28:48.408 --> 02:28:50.173
of activities and get to the
02:28:51.290 --> 02:28:52.763
remediation much quicker.
02:28:53.890 --> 02:28:56.670
Moving to the top, right of this picture
02:28:56.670 --> 02:28:59.930
applying sensor and
protective relay technology.
02:28:59.930 --> 02:29:01.740
I think you heard about some
02:29:02.785 --> 02:29:05.100
of that earlier, from our peers
02:29:05.100 --> 02:29:07.596
but a couple of areas
that are really exciting
02:29:07.596 --> 02:29:10.280
for us is the distribution
fall anticipation technology
02:29:10.280 --> 02:29:13.630
and what we call the early
fault detection technology.
02:29:13.630 --> 02:29:15.160
So these are a combination
02:29:15.160 --> 02:29:16.840
of the sector, essentially looking
02:29:16.840 --> 02:29:19.570
at electric magnetic signatures
02:29:19.570 --> 02:29:22.637
and trying to understand
what's going on on the circuit.
02:29:22.637 --> 02:29:24.690
Are there pre-fall conditions?
02:29:24.690 --> 02:29:26.270
What you see here is a picture
02:29:26.270 --> 02:29:29.510
of defects that are picked
up by early fault detection.
02:29:29.510 --> 02:29:33.060
It's basically a gunshot when
on the overhead conductor.
02:29:33.060 --> 02:29:34.700
Those typically will not get picked
02:29:34.700 --> 02:29:38.100
up by conventional
protective relay technology.
02:29:38.100 --> 02:29:40.000
But in this case early fall detection
02:29:40.000 --> 02:29:42.640
are able to pick up the discharge
02:29:42.640 --> 02:29:45.440
they know as a result that
the broken conductor strands
02:29:47.024 --> 02:29:49.690
and as a result of this, we
can deploy the resources to
02:29:49.690 --> 02:29:51.053
to fix that right away.
02:29:51.930 --> 02:29:53.530
Lower left hand corner there,
02:29:53.530 --> 02:29:56.188
looking at fire suppression applications
02:29:56.188 --> 02:29:59.100
deployment of fire retardants, and
02:29:59.100 --> 02:30:01.410
and also obviously a little further out
02:30:01.410 --> 02:30:04.927
are there some features
state where automated drone
02:30:04.927 --> 02:30:08.800
could help to deploy
fire suppression agents
02:30:08.800 --> 02:30:10.530
by very quickly, number one
02:30:10.530 --> 02:30:12.810
detecting the location that the ignition
02:30:12.810 --> 02:30:15.373
and snuck them out very quickly.
02:30:16.750 --> 02:30:19.860
Lowers center (indistinct)
early fire detection
02:30:19.860 --> 02:30:21.640
data management.
02:30:21.640 --> 02:30:24.260
Looking at combining not just the images
02:30:24.260 --> 02:30:25.890
from our high definition camera,
02:30:25.890 --> 02:30:27.930
but also satellite images
02:30:27.930 --> 02:30:31.090
and using these all different
sources to triangulate
02:30:31.090 --> 02:30:33.687
and pinpoint source
of ignition very early on.
02:30:33.687 --> 02:30:36.340
And the whole idea here is
to be able to get a headstart
02:30:36.340 --> 02:30:38.620
in case there is the emission.
02:30:38.620 --> 02:30:40.170
In the lower right-hand corner here
02:30:40.170 --> 02:30:42.733
it's big data and analytics.
02:30:44.030 --> 02:30:46.310
We have made some
advancement in our smart meter
02:30:46.310 --> 02:30:49.250
algorithm to be able to
detect energized wire down
02:30:49.250 --> 02:30:52.260
and particularly the
so-called low side energized
02:30:52.260 --> 02:30:54.060
wire down that are very difficult to
02:30:56.032 --> 02:30:58.020
detect using traditional
protection technology.
02:30:58.020 --> 02:30:59.900
And we're extending that to
02:30:59.900 --> 02:31:02.540
to look for other
possibilities where there
02:31:02.540 --> 02:31:05.750
may be other sensors that are designed
02:31:05.750 --> 02:31:09.600
for detecting potential
home wiring problems.
02:31:09.600 --> 02:31:13.520
And (indistinct) big
data may be an indication
02:31:13.520 --> 02:31:16.090
of water network issues.
02:31:16.090 --> 02:31:17.971
We're still very early
02:31:17.971 --> 02:31:19.510
in the stage of
exploring this capability.
02:31:19.510 --> 02:31:20.660
These are some examples
02:31:21.760 --> 02:31:23.410
of the various different
technology that,
02:31:24.785 --> 02:31:26.227
that we're looking at to advance
02:31:26.227 --> 02:31:27.060
our wildfire mitigation efforts.
02:31:28.080 --> 02:31:31.430
That sort of wraps up my
presentation, but maybe just
02:31:31.430 --> 02:31:34.370
the very quickly run through
a few slides in the appendix.
02:31:34.370 --> 02:31:37.470
So that just you aware of what's there,
02:31:37.470 --> 02:31:39.530
that's if we could go to the next slide.
02:31:39.530 --> 02:31:42.450
In the appendix section is the
02:31:43.729 --> 02:31:46.160
this overall progress report.
02:31:46.160 --> 02:31:48.154
Lots of number there.
02:31:48.154 --> 02:31:50.142
Obviously you could take a look at that.
02:31:50.142 --> 02:31:53.030
These are the key activities
that we have accomplished
02:31:53.030 --> 02:31:55.060
since the beginning of the program.
02:31:55.060 --> 02:31:56.260
We go to the next slide.
02:31:58.980 --> 02:32:01.330
Next two slides really
is to give you a sense
02:32:01.330 --> 02:32:03.920
of how we looking at this longer term
02:32:03.920 --> 02:32:06.080
right beyond the more immediate years
02:32:06.080 --> 02:32:08.320
what is the longer term trajectory
02:32:08.320 --> 02:32:11.068
of being able to continue to drive
02:32:11.068 --> 02:32:11.901
down the wildfire risk reduction
02:32:11.901 --> 02:32:14.070
looking at big data risk analysis?
02:32:14.070 --> 02:32:17.090
How do we optimize the
resources we have if we go
02:32:17.090 --> 02:32:18.520
to the next slide
02:32:19.923 --> 02:32:22.460
with hardening operational practices
02:32:22.460 --> 02:32:23.840
and situational awareness.
02:32:23.840 --> 02:32:28.090
So the current focus between
now and 2022 and sort
02:32:28.090 --> 02:32:31.890
of the future potential focus
that we have longer term.
02:32:31.890 --> 02:32:34.597
And finally last but not least the slide
02:32:34.597 --> 02:32:36.770
at the end is to give you a view
02:32:37.829 --> 02:32:40.040
of all the different
activities that we have
02:32:40.040 --> 02:32:42.250
in working with WSD.
02:32:42.250 --> 02:32:43.617
And as you can see here
02:32:44.455 --> 02:32:47.096
there's lots of reporting requirements
02:32:47.096 --> 02:32:49.350
and this may be a potential
opportunity for us to look
02:32:49.350 --> 02:32:52.277
at how do we streamline the
reporting process that we have
02:32:52.277 --> 02:32:54.375
across the board to, I guess at the end
02:32:54.375 --> 02:32:57.886
of the day, across the
state, there is limited number
02:32:57.886 --> 02:33:00.689
of resources that we
have working on this.
02:33:00.689 --> 02:33:04.970
So thinking about how do we
optimize the resource we have
02:33:04.970 --> 02:33:06.203
I think will also help.
02:33:07.110 --> 02:33:08.007
So thank you so much
02:33:08.007 --> 02:33:11.050
for the time then I hopefully
that provides some insights
02:33:11.050 --> 02:33:12.733
for you on what SCE is doing.
02:33:14.220 --> 02:33:15.053
Thank you, Bill.
02:33:15.053 --> 02:33:17.500
Do we have any quick questions
from the board members?
02:33:19.620 --> 02:33:20.875
Okay.
02:33:20.875 --> 02:33:22.510
Seeing none I'd like
to thank not only Bill,
02:33:22.510 --> 02:33:24.593
but Kristina and Jonathan.
02:33:29.610 --> 02:33:31.373
Sorry for the ambient noise.
02:33:32.687 --> 02:33:35.190
I just thank all of you for presenting.
02:33:35.190 --> 02:33:37.990
I would like Katherine to
inquire of the presenters.
02:33:37.990 --> 02:33:42.420
If these presentations are
such, we could put them
02:33:42.420 --> 02:33:43.410
on our website.
02:33:43.410 --> 02:33:45.477
I'd like to have them available.
02:33:45.477 --> 02:33:47.250
They answer a lot of questions.
02:33:47.250 --> 02:33:49.270
Obviously that'll be
up to the respective.
02:33:49.270 --> 02:33:51.406
I'll use like Katherine,
you could pursue that.
02:33:51.406 --> 02:33:53.830
I would appreciate it.
02:33:53.830 --> 02:33:55.980
They are already up.
02:33:55.980 --> 02:33:58.018
So hopefully there's no pronouns.
02:33:58.018 --> 02:33:59.246
Wow!, I'm impressed.
02:33:59.246 --> 02:34:00.770
That's like psychic.
02:34:00.770 --> 02:34:01.823
Wow!, okay.
02:34:02.945 --> 02:34:05.670
Excellent, okay.
02:34:05.670 --> 02:34:07.360
Again, my thanks to all of you.
02:34:07.360 --> 02:34:11.000
And I would like to now
go to one of our advisors
02:34:11.000 --> 02:34:13.600
Katherine Stockton, to
give us a high level overview
02:34:14.781 --> 02:34:16.183
of the board's work this year.
02:34:17.080 --> 02:34:18.610
Katherine, if we are to
make up a little time since
02:34:19.507 --> 02:34:21.110
most of this is all going to
be in writing and published
02:34:21.110 --> 02:34:23.350
please feel free to
just hit the highlight.
02:34:23.350 --> 02:34:24.183
Go ahead.
02:34:25.194 --> 02:34:26.643
Next slide please.
02:34:27.880 --> 02:34:31.060
So, as we discussed earlier
at the beginning of the meeting
02:34:31.060 --> 02:34:34.040
the board is planning
on releasing the draft
02:34:34.040 --> 02:34:39.040
of its recommendations on
the large IOU WMPs, March 31st
02:34:40.140 --> 02:34:44.210
or earlier with a board
meeting planned at this point
02:34:44.210 --> 02:34:47.750
but it's not set in
stone yet for April 7th.
02:34:47.750 --> 02:34:52.750
And then now, since the
WSP has staggered the
02:34:53.800 --> 02:34:57.440
wildfire mitigation plan
deadlines, we have an opportunity.
02:34:57.440 --> 02:34:59.910
The board has an
opportunity to review the small
02:34:59.910 --> 02:35:03.660
investor owned utility and
independent transmission
02:35:03.660 --> 02:35:06.490
operator wildfire mitigation plan.
02:35:06.490 --> 02:35:09.100
And the goal would be
02:35:09.100 --> 02:35:12.600
to publish those recommendations,
02:35:12.600 --> 02:35:15.310
but at the end of
April, beginning of may
02:35:15.310 --> 02:35:17.866
after that the wildfire
safety division has requested
02:35:17.866 --> 02:35:20.060
that the recommendations
02:35:20.060 --> 02:35:23.400
on the investor owned
utility wildfire mitigation
02:35:23.400 --> 02:35:27.460
plan guidelines for 2022
02:35:27.460 --> 02:35:29.483
be provided by the end of May.
02:35:30.510 --> 02:35:32.860
So we'll see what we can
do to accommodate that
02:35:33.740 --> 02:35:37.640
that request if possible,
we are not machines.
02:35:37.640 --> 02:35:41.533
And then after that,
02:35:42.950 --> 02:35:45.050
there's no statutory deadline
02:35:45.050 --> 02:35:47.690
but the wildfire mitigation plans
02:35:47.690 --> 02:35:50.690
from the publicly
owned utilities come in
02:35:50.690 --> 02:35:52.323
on July 1st, 2021.
02:35:56.115 --> 02:35:59.450
And you know, there's
so there's no deadline
02:35:59.450 --> 02:36:00.913
but the sooner the better.
02:36:02.324 --> 02:36:04.790
So staff at this point, we're
recommending, you know
02:36:04.790 --> 02:36:07.620
late third quarter or late September
02:36:07.620 --> 02:36:11.490
for the advisory opinions
02:36:11.490 --> 02:36:15.230
on the individual
wildfire mitigation plans.
02:36:15.230 --> 02:36:17.390
But like you had indicated Marcie,
02:36:17.390 --> 02:36:18.550
whether that, you know
02:36:19.771 --> 02:36:21.430
the individual plans
is feasible, it depends
02:36:22.322 --> 02:36:24.733
on among other things
that transition to OIS
02:36:26.130 --> 02:36:28.793
Whether the board gets
another staff member and
02:36:30.540 --> 02:36:32.163
and other outside factors.
02:36:33.060 --> 02:36:33.893
Understood.
02:36:34.800 --> 02:36:37.020
Is there any questions on this?
02:36:37.020 --> 02:36:39.253
This is a very broad timeline.
02:36:40.585 --> 02:36:42.312
And for the board, of course
02:36:42.312 --> 02:36:44.123
we will have lots of internal deadlines.
02:36:46.140 --> 02:36:47.723
We will release to the board.
02:36:49.087 --> 02:36:50.254
Any questions?
02:36:52.020 --> 02:36:54.670
This is vice-chair Fellman.
02:36:54.670 --> 02:36:58.510
And I just want to underscore
02:36:58.510 --> 02:37:03.510
that the staff has set a schedule
02:37:04.600 --> 02:37:08.820
as a rather ambitious timeline.
02:37:08.820 --> 02:37:13.820
And we are very much engaged
in meeting the WSD deadlines
02:37:16.030 --> 02:37:18.730
as well as the request of
the publicly owned utilities
02:37:18.730 --> 02:37:20.840
which we've heard discussed earlier.
02:37:20.840 --> 02:37:25.103
So thank you to capture it and
Leah for keeping us on truck.
02:37:28.140 --> 02:37:29.080
Of course.
02:37:29.080 --> 02:37:30.490
Okay.
02:37:30.490 --> 02:37:31.323
All right.
02:37:31.323 --> 02:37:34.070
Hearing no further questions
from the board members
02:37:34.070 --> 02:37:36.163
I'm gonna move forward.
02:37:37.420 --> 02:37:39.330
As we end, today's
meeting with a final round
02:37:39.330 --> 02:37:40.420
of public comment,
02:37:40.420 --> 02:37:42.380
like to take this opportunity to thank
02:37:42.380 --> 02:37:45.650
both utilities and the
public for their participation.
02:37:45.650 --> 02:37:47.950
Again, if you'd like to
participate in this final round
02:37:47.950 --> 02:37:52.950
of public comments on
numbers, 1-808-857-1917
02:37:53.497 --> 02:37:56.940
passcode of 1767567
02:37:56.940 --> 02:38:00.650
and you press * 1 on your
phone to get on the queue.
02:38:00.650 --> 02:38:01.830
So let's start
02:38:03.130 --> 02:38:06.450
by checking our Wildfire
Safety Advisory Board email box.
02:38:06.450 --> 02:38:08.100
Katherine, do we have any emails?
02:38:10.820 --> 02:38:11.653
One moment?
02:38:13.640 --> 02:38:15.440
Hang on just a second.
02:38:16.660 --> 02:38:17.493
No emails.
02:38:20.060 --> 02:38:21.723
Okay. No email.
02:38:23.320 --> 02:38:25.120
Can we check with
the telephone operator?
02:38:25.120 --> 02:38:27.470
Do we have any public
comment on the phone line
02:38:28.660 --> 02:38:30.107
[Telephone Operator] We do.
02:38:30.107 --> 02:38:31.970
Our first is from Nancy Macy.
02:38:31.970 --> 02:38:33.820
If you would state your organization.
02:38:35.410 --> 02:38:37.426
Yes. Thank you.
02:38:37.426 --> 02:38:38.670
I hope you can hear me okay.
02:38:38.670 --> 02:38:40.310
My name is Nancy Macy.
02:38:40.310 --> 02:38:42.960
I am chair of the Valley Women's clubs
02:38:42.960 --> 02:38:46.820
environmental committee
for the south Lorenzo Valley
02:38:46.820 --> 02:38:48.960
the Valley women's club has been active
02:38:48.960 --> 02:38:51.330
for 43 years in our community
02:38:51.330 --> 02:38:54.850
and salmon in the Santa Cruz
mountains, Santa Cruz County.
02:38:54.850 --> 02:38:56.807
We are on nationally
02:38:56.807 --> 02:38:59.670
and state honored five Oh
one C3 organization involved
02:38:59.670 --> 02:39:02.950
in a wide range of community
issues and concerns.
02:39:02.950 --> 02:39:05.910
We network with a wide range of people
02:39:05.910 --> 02:39:10.910
in forested areas, over
these issues, especially related
02:39:11.060 --> 02:39:14.770
to PG&E's enhanced vegetation management
02:39:14.770 --> 02:39:16.653
and the problems caused they're in.
02:39:17.610 --> 02:39:18.443
You should know.
02:39:18.443 --> 02:39:19.890
And probably you do because some
02:39:19.890 --> 02:39:22.120
of you are very familiar with this area.
02:39:22.120 --> 02:39:23.800
That power outages are routine
02:39:23.800 --> 02:39:25.680
for residents in the Santa Cruz,
02:39:25.680 --> 02:39:28.660
coastal mountains especially in winter.
02:39:28.660 --> 02:39:29.640
In good measure, due to
02:39:29.640 --> 02:39:33.750
decades old antiquated bear
distribution lines for decades.
02:39:33.750 --> 02:39:35.920
PG&E has been known
for pressuring property
02:39:35.920 --> 02:39:38.900
owners to allow trees to be
cut down, to reduce the need
02:39:38.900 --> 02:39:41.960
for legally required
routine annual trimming.
02:39:41.960 --> 02:39:45.300
This has been a problem
for a long, long, long time.
02:39:45.300 --> 02:39:48.220
And the rights of property owners
02:39:48.220 --> 02:39:50.473
and homeowners have been ignored.
02:39:52.140 --> 02:39:54.600
We strongly feel it is very important
02:39:54.600 --> 02:39:57.890
that all ignition
sources be addressed to
02:39:57.890 --> 02:40:00.430
reduce all consequences of wildfires
02:40:01.560 --> 02:40:04.950
and not to mention other problems
02:40:04.950 --> 02:40:07.963
such as power outages and electrocution.
02:40:09.856 --> 02:40:14.320
PG&E has overall through
its wildfire mitigation plans,
02:40:14.320 --> 02:40:16.910
it's earlier wildfire safety plans,
02:40:16.910 --> 02:40:19.600
it's enhanced vegetation management
02:40:19.600 --> 02:40:22.343
has overall failed to do so.
02:40:23.870 --> 02:40:28.420
The massive investment of rate
payer funds and tree removals
02:40:28.420 --> 02:40:31.930
as a major part of its vegetation
management cannot promise
02:40:31.930 --> 02:40:35.180
to prevent trees remain
to packing power lines.
02:40:35.180 --> 02:40:38.370
It's very expensive
around $2 billion a year
02:40:38.370 --> 02:40:41.160
and it is environmentally destructive
02:40:41.160 --> 02:40:46.160
with millions of trees being
cut over the next few decades.
02:40:47.380 --> 02:40:49.070
And they're talking, they
originally were talking
02:40:49.070 --> 02:40:50.860
about 30 million trees over 30 years,
02:40:50.860 --> 02:40:52.523
so that's a lot of trees.
02:40:54.240 --> 02:40:57.920
That is only going to
address around 25%,
02:40:57.920 --> 02:40:59.850
according to their own charts
02:40:59.850 --> 02:41:03.200
of reported ignitions due to vegetation,
02:41:03.200 --> 02:41:06.160
only by upgrading infrastructure
at a much faster rate
02:41:06.160 --> 02:41:10.470
will we be protected from
the other 75% of 5% of fires
02:41:10.470 --> 02:41:14.290
along with those
vegetation fires specifically
02:41:14.290 --> 02:41:19.290
to upgrade the 7,000 miles
of barrier gauge copper wire
02:41:19.800 --> 02:41:21.220
and high fire areas
02:41:22.140 --> 02:41:26.030
that was reported back in 2013.
02:41:26.030 --> 02:41:27.900
This is a real problem
throughout the system.
02:41:27.900 --> 02:41:31.220
Over 22,000 miles of this wire exist
02:41:31.220 --> 02:41:34.580
and it is severely outdated,
02:41:34.580 --> 02:41:38.460
unsafe, and should be replaced.
02:41:38.460 --> 02:41:39.810
We don't even know how many
02:41:41.158 --> 02:41:44.060
of miles in Santa Cruz
County exist of, of that 7,000
02:41:44.060 --> 02:41:49.060
but we're told we have
researched very thoroughly
02:41:49.330 --> 02:41:51.650
the issues, and this is a major problem.
02:41:51.650 --> 02:41:52.880
We want to see that replaced.
02:41:52.880 --> 02:41:55.220
Southern California Edison is doing it.
02:41:55.220 --> 02:41:57.600
They recognize the
problem about data conductor
02:41:57.600 --> 02:42:02.010
and are replacing it at
least four times the rate.
02:42:02.010 --> 02:42:04.540
It's really disturbing how slowly
02:42:04.540 --> 02:42:07.053
PG&E is undertaking this problem.
02:42:09.030 --> 02:42:13.140
I wanted to also point
out that the other issue
02:42:13.140 --> 02:42:15.970
is that would help make a
big difference would be to
02:42:15.970 --> 02:42:19.640
actually install
computerized circuit breakers
02:42:20.730 --> 02:42:22.893
along the system.
02:42:23.843 --> 02:42:26.180
There are various kinds available now.
02:42:26.180 --> 02:42:29.340
A number of them are
off the shelf, ready to go.
02:42:29.340 --> 02:42:31.615
Let's get those up there and,
02:42:31.615 --> 02:42:34.060
and get them working.
02:42:34.060 --> 02:42:35.280
San Diego gas and electric
02:42:35.280 --> 02:42:37.630
has actually undertaken to do that.
02:42:37.630 --> 02:42:40.760
And one of the major problems is
02:42:40.760 --> 02:42:44.140
that the California public
utilities Commission doesn't even
02:42:46.087 --> 02:42:48.340
have any requirements related
to circuit breakers anywhere.
02:42:48.340 --> 02:42:53.340
And its regulations geo
95 is is bereft of mention of,
02:42:54.380 --> 02:42:56.830
any such equipment.
02:42:56.830 --> 02:43:01.250
And that is a major failing
on the part of the CPC.
02:43:01.250 --> 02:43:04.143
You might want to mention
that in your in your comments.
02:43:05.174 --> 02:43:08.110
Speaking of fires, you know
02:43:09.012 --> 02:43:12.890
we have been dealing
with the CCU lightening fire
02:43:12.890 --> 02:43:16.440
and it really is
important that this board,
02:43:16.440 --> 02:43:18.750
because of your extraordinary,
02:43:18.750 --> 02:43:22.610
extraordinary ability to evaluate
02:43:22.610 --> 02:43:25.590
and inform the wildfire safety division
02:43:25.590 --> 02:43:30.590
and the public that you
understand that right now
02:43:31.040 --> 02:43:35.710
PG&E is under notice by Cal Fire
02:43:35.710 --> 02:43:38.070
for five notices of violations
02:43:38.070 --> 02:43:40.880
with hundreds of violations
02:43:40.880 --> 02:43:42.550
because they have literally been
02:43:42.550 --> 02:43:45.010
clear-cutting thousands of trees
02:43:45.010 --> 02:43:48.150
post-fire and post emergency repairs
02:43:48.150 --> 02:43:49.510
not only in there right away,
02:43:49.510 --> 02:43:52.220
but far onto private property.
02:43:52.220 --> 02:43:53.990
No notice was given
02:43:53.990 --> 02:43:57.300
to landowner landowners
who had evacuated.
02:43:57.300 --> 02:43:58.380
We were all gone.
02:43:58.380 --> 02:44:01.240
70,000 of us had to evacuate.
02:44:01.240 --> 02:44:04.540
So no notice was given
to all the fire victims.
02:44:04.540 --> 02:44:08.277
There were about 1000
homes destroyed most
02:44:09.570 --> 02:44:12.380
of them in Santa Cruz
County and in this fire
02:44:14.394 --> 02:44:17.313
and the people who came home to houses
02:44:18.181 --> 02:44:20.261
but still had everything
around them burned
02:44:20.261 --> 02:44:25.170
were and equally just, you
know, difficult situations.
02:44:27.000 --> 02:44:30.110
They didn't remove trees
just from their right of way
02:44:30.110 --> 02:44:32.490
but far onto private property.
02:44:32.490 --> 02:44:36.653
And when homeowners were turned and,
02:44:38.687 --> 02:44:41.270
and came to groves of Redwood
trees cut down on memory lane
02:44:41.270 --> 02:44:46.270
and 200 trees taken down
on a little over an acre property.
02:44:46.519 --> 02:44:49.485
And all these trees removed in the,
02:44:49.485 --> 02:44:52.190
in the Bonny Doon area
02:44:53.390 --> 02:44:58.390
you know, gorgeous,
huge heritage, Oak trees,
02:44:59.050 --> 02:45:02.090
70 feet and 120 feet from there.
02:45:02.090 --> 02:45:04.350
I guess they were just 70 feet Oak trees
02:45:04.350 --> 02:45:07.340
from the right of way were cut down.
02:45:07.340 --> 02:45:10.880
In spite of the fact that they
had green leaves, thousands
02:45:10.880 --> 02:45:15.590
of the trees were cut down
after the landowners returned
02:45:15.590 --> 02:45:20.245
and they had the, an erosion
control specialists coming and
02:45:20.245 --> 02:45:23.220
and telling them, leave the trees.
02:45:23.220 --> 02:45:25.990
You need them to, to retain the soil.
02:45:25.990 --> 02:45:27.480
Many of them will be restored.
02:45:27.480 --> 02:45:29.553
They're gonna come back unless they are
02:45:30.496 --> 02:45:34.430
in no explicit danger to
your homes or to your lands
02:45:34.430 --> 02:45:36.570
sites where you want
to rebuild your homes.
02:45:36.570 --> 02:45:38.060
You should leave.
02:45:38.060 --> 02:45:40.360
If I could ask you to
wrap up your comments.
02:45:40.360 --> 02:45:41.193
I'm sorry.
02:45:41.193 --> 02:45:42.732
Thank you.
02:45:42.732 --> 02:45:46.330
So what I'm hoping I wanted
to, you know, that we'll be
02:45:46.330 --> 02:45:48.410
sending written comments
and we hope you will have
02:45:48.410 --> 02:45:51.807
the opportunity to look
them over and we will be
02:45:51.807 --> 02:45:54.180
including the notices
of violation so that you
02:45:54.180 --> 02:45:59.180
can evaluate how that
kind of activity, illegal activity
02:45:59.480 --> 02:46:04.000
can be mitigated through your comments.
02:46:04.000 --> 02:46:06.230
Thank you very much for
the opportunity to speak.
02:46:06.230 --> 02:46:08.180
And I'm sorry, I talk so long.
02:46:08.180 --> 02:46:09.870
I appreciate your timeframe.
02:46:09.870 --> 02:46:11.340
Thank you.
02:46:11.340 --> 02:46:12.810
Thank you.
02:46:12.810 --> 02:46:15.622
Operator, do we have any further public
02:46:15.622 --> 02:46:17.107
comment on the phone line?
02:46:17.107 --> 02:46:18.821
[Telephone Operator]
We do have another,
02:46:18.821 --> 02:46:19.870
and that is from Dan Courtney.
02:46:19.870 --> 02:46:22.748
If you would please
state your organization.
02:46:22.748 --> 02:46:23.962
Thank you.
02:46:23.962 --> 02:46:25.983
My name is Dan Courtney
of LA Jolla, California.
02:46:26.934 --> 02:46:28.950
I'm a member of the Sierra club
02:46:28.950 --> 02:46:32.240
utility wildfire prevention task force.
02:46:32.240 --> 02:46:36.460
I'm also a resident and property
owner in Twomey County.
02:46:36.460 --> 02:46:40.430
Similar to the last speaker
we hadn't experienced
02:46:40.430 --> 02:46:43.810
during the rim fire and fire
burned through our, our area.
02:46:43.810 --> 02:46:46.420
And we have a collection
02:46:46.420 --> 02:46:50.990
of small cabins surrounded
by Stanislav national forest
02:46:50.990 --> 02:46:53.285
just five miles outside of the entrance
02:46:53.285 --> 02:46:56.600
into U of 70 national park
with old growth, Cedar incense
02:46:56.600 --> 02:47:01.240
Cedar that is Oak
Ponderosa pine and so forth.
02:47:01.240 --> 02:47:06.240
And during the rim fire, I
was escorted in by, by for
02:47:06.833 --> 02:47:11.150
for wildfire check by
deputies and found PG&E
02:47:11.150 --> 02:47:13.560
actively cutting every tree tall enough
02:47:14.551 --> 02:47:16.540
to the power line, even
unburned trees, dropping them
02:47:16.540 --> 02:47:19.249
into areas where
there was still stumped,
02:47:19.249 --> 02:47:20.460
fires, burning and so forth.
02:47:20.460 --> 02:47:22.450
The Sheriff's department stopped them
02:47:22.450 --> 02:47:25.440
but it's similar to what
we hear in Santa Cruz.
02:47:25.440 --> 02:47:30.440
My real concern is in
hearing that PGE is going to
02:47:31.280 --> 02:47:33.880
do actually less line
hardening this year
02:47:33.880 --> 02:47:36.800
than they had initially looked into.
02:47:36.800 --> 02:47:38.970
I'm looking now at
the wildfire community
02:47:38.970 --> 02:47:40.880
wildfire safety program
02:47:40.880 --> 02:47:44.277
winter 2020 progress report from PG&E.
02:47:44.277 --> 02:47:46.520
And I see that the County
02:47:46.520 --> 02:47:51.520
in 2019 had zero miles of
system hardening completed.
02:47:52.070 --> 02:47:57.070
They had planned for 47
miles in 2020, only got 15
02:47:57.140 --> 02:48:02.140
yet 261 miles of enhanced
vegetation management
02:48:02.450 --> 02:48:06.780
in 18 and 19, another 86 and 2020.
02:48:08.260 --> 02:48:12.530
So 22 and a half times as
many line miles were done
02:48:12.530 --> 02:48:14.470
with an answer vegetation management
02:48:14.470 --> 02:48:16.363
as we're done with the line hardening.
02:48:17.472 --> 02:48:19.180
And the issue with
the lines is in this area.
02:48:19.180 --> 02:48:21.190
For example, by my house
02:48:21.190 --> 02:48:24.607
we have the old bear
uninsulated wires, the line
02:48:24.607 --> 02:48:28.423
the span right by my
house has 14 splices.
02:48:29.543 --> 02:48:32.290
It's still the burnt
short wind power poles
02:48:32.290 --> 02:48:35.040
the orbit by the room fire
and probably previous fires.
02:48:36.030 --> 02:48:39.630
I actually offered to chip in
money towards undergrounding.
02:48:39.630 --> 02:48:44.061
I was told the PG&E would
not match funds if you know
02:48:44.061 --> 02:48:47.550
taken from savings in
vegetation management
02:48:47.550 --> 02:48:49.410
over future years in winter maintenance
02:48:49.410 --> 02:48:51.220
that would be totally
eliminated obviously
02:48:51.220 --> 02:48:53.170
by undergrounding.
02:48:53.170 --> 02:48:55.730
I couldn't figure out
why do some research
02:48:55.730 --> 02:48:57.185
and it appears it's
02:48:57.185 --> 02:48:59.750
because the vegetation
management costs get passed
02:48:59.750 --> 02:49:01.750
on to the rate payers or
02:49:01.750 --> 02:49:06.520
to FEMA in the case of
these post-fire burn area
02:49:06.520 --> 02:49:08.430
clear cutting that they're doing
02:49:08.430 --> 02:49:11.120
and the equivalent costs apparently come
02:49:11.120 --> 02:49:13.200
out of the bottom line off the profits.
02:49:13.200 --> 02:49:15.720
So that's a possible rationale.
02:49:15.720 --> 02:49:19.160
The only one I could see that
it makes any business sense.
02:49:19.160 --> 02:49:22.850
The CPC, I think really has to step
02:49:23.982 --> 02:49:28.070
up and start requiring PG&E
to do a system hardening.
02:49:28.070 --> 02:49:30.460
And it doesn't have
to be all underground.
02:49:30.460 --> 02:49:32.820
They could just use the space
02:49:32.820 --> 02:49:36.549
or wire that so-called had
to send an STG is using
02:49:36.549 --> 02:49:40.020
they really have to do something
02:49:40.020 --> 02:49:43.890
and they have to get
this to be a safer situation
02:49:43.890 --> 02:49:47.870
for all before the next
several disasters happen.
02:49:47.870 --> 02:49:51.740
On a different note related there's.
02:49:51.740 --> 02:49:53.290
So PG&E needs aggressive
02:49:53.290 --> 02:49:55.720
enhanced vegetation
management means basically
02:49:55.720 --> 02:49:58.630
marking any Tretorn if, if a power line
02:50:00.149 --> 02:50:01.990
regardless of how far it
is outside the right of way.
02:50:01.990 --> 02:50:05.340
And they use very aggressive,
hard ball tactics to do that
02:50:05.340 --> 02:50:08.330
including threats and coming
in with law enforcement
02:50:08.330 --> 02:50:11.200
threatening to cut
off power and so forth.
02:50:11.200 --> 02:50:12.220
And in most cases
02:50:12.220 --> 02:50:14.870
at least the ones we've
looked at most of these trees
02:50:16.426 --> 02:50:18.303
quite a few of these trees
were healthy, old growth trees.
02:50:20.120 --> 02:50:25.120
So PRC 4040 or was
it you guys all probably
02:50:26.526 --> 02:50:27.835
know this 4795?
02:50:27.835 --> 02:50:30.590
I think it is point B does
give them the right to cut
02:50:30.590 --> 02:50:33.780
down trees outside there right away.
02:50:33.780 --> 02:50:37.510
However, it does not
exempt them from damages.
02:50:37.510 --> 02:50:41.480
Also the property owner
is where he is allowed
02:50:41.480 --> 02:50:43.710
or the grant to have the right
02:50:43.710 --> 02:50:46.270
to advanced notice and
also a right to be heard.
02:50:46.270 --> 02:50:48.530
Currently. There's
no mechanism for that.
02:50:48.530 --> 02:50:52.010
I hired an arborist with long experience
02:50:52.010 --> 02:50:53.990
and tree mortality to look at the trees
02:50:53.990 --> 02:50:56.690
to PG&E are marked by 14 acres.
02:50:56.690 --> 02:50:58.820
He concluded that 85%
of them were healthy
02:50:59.799 --> 02:51:02.360
and would live at
least another 25 years.
02:51:02.360 --> 02:51:06.279
With this report, I then
contacted the CPS CPC
02:51:06.279 --> 02:51:07.610
and said okay, I mean, I wanna go
02:51:07.610 --> 02:51:10.420
into refusal and have
somebody to look at this.
02:51:10.420 --> 02:51:12.693
And apparently there's no proof.
02:51:12.693 --> 02:51:15.630
I was told that the PG&E
vegetation area manager
02:51:15.630 --> 02:51:19.370
would be the one to consider
the report and the objections.
02:51:19.370 --> 02:51:21.270
However, that's the same person
02:51:21.270 --> 02:51:22.550
in this case who put the flags
02:51:22.550 --> 02:51:25.380
on the trees and Mark them to be cut.
02:51:25.380 --> 02:51:27.100
So there seems to be a void
02:51:27.100 --> 02:51:31.300
in terms of having
an objective third party
02:51:31.300 --> 02:51:34.370
qualified government agency involved
02:51:34.370 --> 02:51:38.450
in a process for the
more than noticing process
02:51:38.450 --> 02:51:42.730
is lax in that a lot of
times people come home
02:51:42.730 --> 02:51:44.400
or they get up and their
02:51:44.400 --> 02:51:46.530
their trees are down and
maybe there was a door hanger
02:51:46.530 --> 02:51:48.080
or there was a little, you know
02:51:49.038 --> 02:51:50.480
fine print thing in the
envelope with the bill
02:51:50.480 --> 02:51:53.620
but there has to be really,
you know, direct notification
02:51:53.620 --> 02:51:55.589
and then probably 30 days
02:51:55.589 --> 02:51:57.570
to inspect the trees
prior to them being cut,
02:51:57.570 --> 02:52:00.330
as well as the process where if they
02:52:00.330 --> 02:52:03.220
if the property owner so desires
02:52:03.220 --> 02:52:04.780
there is an objective party to review
02:52:04.780 --> 02:52:07.310
that also some entities that go
02:52:09.004 --> 02:52:10.980
to regarding damages claims for damages
02:52:10.980 --> 02:52:14.878
which are troubled damages because the,
02:52:14.878 --> 02:52:18.660
the courts rule that you
must first exhaust your,
02:52:18.660 --> 02:52:22.410
your regulatory recourse.
02:52:22.410 --> 02:52:23.530
Anyway, I've talked long enough.
02:52:23.530 --> 02:52:26.200
I appreciate your time
and all that you're doing.
02:52:26.200 --> 02:52:29.380
And I really hope that you
will make recommendations
02:52:29.380 --> 02:52:32.710
to strengthen the the line heartening
02:52:32.710 --> 02:52:34.100
because that's the only real solution
02:52:34.100 --> 02:52:39.100
by the way, this, this system
of clearing large tunnels
02:52:39.310 --> 02:52:42.200
through the forest might
be counterproductive
02:52:42.200 --> 02:52:43.240
for what I'm hearing in terms
02:52:43.240 --> 02:52:44.820
of the creating the wind shear
02:52:44.820 --> 02:52:47.260
the wind tunnels and
accelerating the rate
02:52:47.260 --> 02:52:50.660
of speed that the flaming
brands are traveling
02:52:50.660 --> 02:52:53.050
which is spread of
the fire is so far out
02:52:53.050 --> 02:52:55.569
advance where the firefighters can get
02:52:55.569 --> 02:52:57.150
to at such high rates of speed.
02:52:57.150 --> 02:53:00.080
So line hardening line
hardening line hardening.
02:53:00.080 --> 02:53:00.913
Thank you.
02:53:02.290 --> 02:53:04.260
Thank you for your comments.
02:53:04.260 --> 02:53:06.539
Do we have a, telephone operator
02:53:06.539 --> 02:53:09.233
Do we have any other public
comment on the phone line?
02:53:09.233 --> 02:53:10.066
[Telephone Operator]
There are no other
02:53:10.066 --> 02:53:11.263
commenters at this time.
02:53:12.210 --> 02:53:13.403
Thank you operator.
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We appreciate everyone's commentary
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and this closes the public
comment session section
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excuse me,
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chair Edwards, this is Jessica.
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I just would like to say
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I should acknowledge
our public commentors, Mr.
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Courtney and Ms. Macy.
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They made comments to our vegetation
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management workshop yesterday
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and I just want to thank them
both for, for their comments.
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So I appreciate that.
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I'd like to thank everyone
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for participating in this
virtual board meeting.
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Again, we're here to
serve the better interests
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of the state.
02:53:48.723 --> 02:53:50.770
And so we appreciate the opportunity
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of hearing from you,
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hearing a different perspective.
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I would like to make a special shout out
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to both Robert Stanford
and Joe Haggar and our team
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of IT professionals, for
making this meeting box.
02:54:02.170 --> 02:54:05.066
Well, making sure we
could all get connected.
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They do a lot of work
that you can't really see,
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but they do it pretty.
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They do it very professionally.
02:54:11.800 --> 02:54:15.130
And finally, I would like to
thank Governor Newsome
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for continuing to keep wildfire
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as a high priority in the state.
02:54:20.560 --> 02:54:23.610
You know, his support
has continued inquiry
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certainly demonstrate to me
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that this is something he
wants to continue to see.
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A very dynamic progress made on.
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And with that, do I have
any closing comments
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from any members of the board?
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Take a quick look here and
make sure I got everybody.
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I don't see any hands or inquiries.
02:54:51.760 --> 02:54:56.760
So with that, I would like
to have a motion to adjourn
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or you'll stay here.
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(laughs)
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I like to make a
motion to adjourn.
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Thank you, second.
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Second.
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Thank you.
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Are there any objections?
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Hearing none, I would like to
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adjourn this board member, and again
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thank you very much
for your participation.