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(gentle music)
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Welcome
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to the California Public
Utilities Commission,
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Joint IOU PSS workshop.
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President Batjer, you may begin.
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Thank you operator and I want
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to welcome everyone this morning.
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Good morning.
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I'd like to thank the
leaders of our sister agency,
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CAL FIRE and Cal OES as
well as my fellow Commissioners
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for joining us today
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for this really important
public meeting.
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Before we begin, I would
like to cover information
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on the public population
in today's meeting.
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The meeting is live streamed
on the CPUC website.
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You can view the
meeting@www.adminmonitor.com/ca/cpuc
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admin monitor is all one word.
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events and make comments
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during the public comment
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Participants listening in
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on a mute in listen only mode
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Once the public comment
portion of the meeting begins,
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participants may dial *1
when they wish to speak
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to be placed in a queue by the operator.
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If you encounter difficulty calling
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into the public telephone line,
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please contact the CPUC's public advisor
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at public.advisor@cpuc.ca.gov
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or call our toll free number 8668498390.
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The public may also
make written comments
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that will be reviewed
following today's meeting
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by the following link in today's agenda,
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which will take them to the
docket for PSPS proceeding
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and clicking on the add
public comment button,
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you can begin your comment.
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With that, turning to today's
very important subject.
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When it comes to the
decision to shut off power
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to customers,
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utilities must execute
Public Safety Power Shutoff,
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PSPS events in a manner
that places the well-being
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of the people and the
communities they serve first.
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We are holding today's meeting as part
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of our ongoing actions
to reduce the impact
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of investor-owned utilities PSPS events.
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Today, during the first
half of the day we will hear
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from PacifiCorp, San Diego
Gas and Electric Company
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and Pacific Gas and Electric Company.
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But their PSPS performance during
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to hear from them about
their PSPS performance
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in the 2020 wildfire season
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and their lessons learned in
advance of the 2021 season.
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During the second half of the day,
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we will have the opportunity
to hear from the people
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and communities who are
impacted by the utilities' decision
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to shut off the power.
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We will have have a round
table with the representatives
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from the access and functional
needs community on engagement
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from the utilities before
and during the events
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and how this can be improved.
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Following that we
will have a round table
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with representatives of the
local governments and tribes
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from across the state who have
been impacted by PSPS events
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to understand what was
working better this past season
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and where there remains
room for improvement.
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Both in the morning session
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and the afternoon session we
will have opportunities to hear
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from the public.
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To me, the afternoon
panels are the most important
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and critical for our objectives
of reducing the impacts
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of PSPS events.
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We, as the regulator need to listen
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and learn about the real impacts
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and more importantly utilities
need to listen and learn.
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That is why I have asked
top leadership from the utilities
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to attend today and to
stay and listen intently
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to the afternoon panel.
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It is critical they hear
and internalize the impacts
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to people and communities
they have the privilege to serve
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so they can translate
what they learn today
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into real actions at
their organizations.
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We are at a point in the
year where there's still time,
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little time, still time to
incorporate lessons learned
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from last year into
planning and execution
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for this year's fire season.
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This afternoon's panel
are a valuable opportunity
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for utility leadership to
take the field feedback
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and translate it into real changes.
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In terms of the order
of this morning session,
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we will hear first from
PacifiCorp then SDG&E
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and finally PG&E, followed
by public comments.
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We heard earlier this
winter from Edison,
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so they will not be
attending today as speakers,
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I'm hoping that they are
indeed listening intently.
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In the afternoon, we
will first hear from access
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and functional needs community
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and then impacted local
governments and tribes
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followed again by public comments.
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With that, I'd like to turn to
my colleagues on the dais.
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Chief Porter from CAL FIRE first
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and then we'll turn to
Chief Deputy Director Curry
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from Cal OES.
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Chief Porter.
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Thank you President Batjer
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and thank you all for
this important hearing.
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It is something that is
important to us looking at
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what potentially could be
with the drought conditions
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that we seem to be going
in another challenging year.
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Of course, some of the
weather is not this far out able
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to be predicted is wind,
which is the primary driver
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for PSPS and so we'll see
what the summer brings,
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but I look forward to hearing
how everybody's doing
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in their preparations and getting ready
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for this coming season.
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Thank you.
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Thank you Chief Porter.
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Chief Deputy Director
Curry from Cal OES.
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Good morning.
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Hi, good morning President
Batjer, Commissioners,
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Chief Porter and IOU partners.
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My name again is Tina
Curry, chief deputy at Cal OES
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and I too appreciate the opportunity
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to have this discussion
today and invitation to join
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to talk about the 2020
PSPS power or I'm sorry,
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Public Safety Power
Shutoff events or PSPS.
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This was the new
thing for us in California,
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of course, a couple of
years ago and it's imperative
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for Cal OES as the
overarching coordinator
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of all things disasters and
emergencies for the state
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to work closely with
the CPUC and CAL FIRE
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as well as our IOU partners to
prepare for PSPS and ensure
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that our communities receive reliable
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and timely notifications
prior to events.
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And I do wanna note
that overall there's,
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we saw a lot of improvements
from 2019 to 2020
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and just to really
appreciate the partnership
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and the engagement to look critically
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at where things went well
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but also where things can be improved
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and certainly that's what
we're here to do today,
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is talk about that small
window like you said president
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with which we have
to prepare to make sure
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that not only are we
sustaining the things
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that are going well or what
we've reached a consistency
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and kind of a regularity
in terms of our protocols
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but also where we still have
areas where we can improve.
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Really it's our,
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we're counting on this
continued positive engagement
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that we've seen thus
far to plan for and prepare
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and to continuously improve on the PSPS
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but more importantly, our
communities are counting on us
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to make sure California and
many others have contended
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with a lot in 2020, historic
fire season that followed
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and certainly some PSPS
events were included in that.
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But again, look forward
to the discussion today
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and thoughtful input on
how we can do even better
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and be better prepared.
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So thank you so much for
the opportunity to participate.
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Thank you very much
Chief Deputy Curry.
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And now I will turn to
my fellow Commissioners.
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Commissioner Guzman Aceves,
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would you like to make
any remarks today?
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Thank you President Batjer.
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I just maybe will give a
highlight of a particular focus
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that I would like the
speakers to touch upon,
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particularly the IOUs
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in hearing from their greater
preparation and coordination
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with the telecommunications sector
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and the water providers in their areas.
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I think given this time
where they could be prepared
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and coordinating some
of the critical facilities
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that each of them depend
upon for continuation of service
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and what kind of planning
has been done to really ensure
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that those services stay
unaffected during these shutoffs.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you Commissioner
Guzman Aceves.
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Commissioner Shiroma, would
you like to make some remarks?
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Yes, thank you President Batjer
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and to you (indistinct)
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the wildfire safety
and enforcement staff
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for today's workshop
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for your work on the
wildfire proceedings.
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Also many thanks to CAL FIRE and Cal OES
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for this sister agency partnership.
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I look forward to hearing
the presentations today
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from the investor-owned utilities
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about what they are doing,
what has worked for them,
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what lessons learned to share.
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Also looking forward to
hearing about their engagement
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with the access and
functional needs community
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and to hear more about the
outreach and survey efforts
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in this afternoon session.
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As you outlined President
Batjer, it's very important
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that the investor-owned utilities
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not only internally reflect
but also pay attention
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to the work of the other IOUs
and to learn from each other.
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So I'll look forward to
the presentation today
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and learning myself.
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Thank you.
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Thank you Commissioner Shiroma.
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Commissioner Houck, would you like
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to make some opening remarks?
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Thank you President Batjer.
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I'd like to thank you,
the safety policy division,
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the safety and enforcement division
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and wildfire safety division
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along with our executive
director, Rachel Peterson,
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for your leadership on the
wildfire and PSPS matters
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for the CPUS, I'm concerned
about the impacts of PSPS
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on ratepayers
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in particular our most
vulnerable ratepayers,
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as well as the possibility of wildfire
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in the absence of PSPS.
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These events cannot occur
without attention to consequences
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and I understand that the
balance is difficult to strike and
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that PSPS events seem to be increasing
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as climate change is worsening.
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So with those comments in
mind, I look forward to listening
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and learning from today's presentation
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and thank you to everyone
participating in today's workshop.
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Again, I'm looking forward
especially to the round tables.
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Thank you Commissioner Houck.
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Has Commissioner
Rechtschaffen joined us?
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Yes, I have President Batjer.
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Great, would you like
to make any comments?
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Thank you.
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I want to acknowledge
as President Batjer outlined
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that there has been work
done to reduce the size
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and the scope of PSPS as in
there have been improvements.
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Nonetheless, it's critical
that we continue to improve
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and have the utilities continue
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to fine tune their processes,
make improvements.
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President Batjer has been
adopting the guidelines each year
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to make sure that we
learn from prior years
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and we look forward to continuing
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to make these events happen,
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not just as infrequently as possible
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but as smoothly as possible.
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And as President Batjer indicated,
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I also am very much looking forward
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to this afternoon session
where we can hear
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from stakeholders.
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I wanna thank and acknowledge
all the incredible engagement
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so far that we've had
from local governments,
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tribal governments,
community-based organizations,
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advocates and individual customers.
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Your engagement has been
our most important means
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of understanding the impacts
of PSPSs so we can continue
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to respond with new
guidelines and I look forward
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to this afternoon's discussion
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as well as the morning discussion,
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but in particularly hearing
from our stakeholders
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in the public.
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Thank you very much
Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
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Okay, we will now turn
to our presentations.
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First this morning, we
will hear from PacifiCorp
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and we will be hearing
from the president and CEO,
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Stefan Bird.
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We will have about 20
minutes total for the presentation
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and discussion with members of the dais.
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My fellow dais members,
please feel free to ask questions
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as they come up.
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Sorry that we will be
interrupting the presentation
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but we have found that
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that's probably the best
interactive way to stay on top
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of our questions in a timely manner.
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I will again remind people,
we're gonna be on a clock.
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So please remember that as
you're asking your questions
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and PacifiCorp as you're
answering and responding.
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Thank you very much,
President and CEO Bird.
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Thank you very much.
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Good morning and
thank you President Batjer
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for the opportunity to be here today.
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Again for the record I'm Stefan Bird,
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president and CEO of Pacific Power.
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I'd also like to extend my appreciation
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to Commissioner Guzman Aceves,
Commissioner Rechtschaffen,
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Commissioner Shiroma
and Commissioner Houck
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as well as the CAL FIRE Chief Porter
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and Chief Deputy Director
Curry who joined us today,
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as well as Daniel Berlin for
co-hosting today's meeting.
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We're honored to be here
with our industry colleagues
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and partners today from
San Diego Gas and Electric
00:15:08.660 --> 00:15:12.190
and Pacific Gas and
Electric to share best practices
00:15:12.190 --> 00:15:13.023
and lessons learned
00:15:13.023 --> 00:15:16.210
from last year's Public
Safety Power Shutoff events
00:15:16.210 --> 00:15:20.507
and to listen to feedback
from regulators and the public.
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Pacific Power is an
organization that's committed
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to continuous improvement and we share
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in the Commission's
desire to reduce the impacts
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of Public Safety Power Shutoffs.
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One way that we're achieving that aim is
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through our direct
partnership in community.
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Through our community resiliency
program we started in 2019,
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we're working with local
emergency managers
00:15:41.380 --> 00:15:45.160
to identify key projects to
uphold critical infrastructure
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during any time there's
a service interruption
00:15:47.880 --> 00:15:49.680
and that includes things
from energy stores,
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technical assessments to
portable backup generation grants.
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Includes a portfolio of resources
for communities seeking
00:15:56.090 --> 00:15:57.820
to enhance their emergency management
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and disaster preparedness capabilities.
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It's partnerships and programs like this
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that are a key aspect
of a resilient community.
00:16:06.290 --> 00:16:08.440
We certainly understand
it's no small matter
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to consider turning the power
off for an entire community
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to ensure they have
the support they need
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if such an event were to occur.
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I'm gonna now turn over to
my colleague, David Lucas,
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who serves as the
vice-president of wildfire safety
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for Pacific Power
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and he will give you a more
comprehensive summary
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of our 2020 PSPS actions
and post event analysis.
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Thank you.
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Yes, thank you Stefan.
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Good morning, President Batjer,
members of the Commission,
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representatives from
CAL FIRE and Cal OES.
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As mentioned, my name is David Lucas.
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I'm the Vice President
of Wildfire Safety.
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Recognizing we only have
20 minutes for the presentation
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and the Q&A session today,
I'll attempt to be thorough
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but yet quickly move through
our slides to allow for time
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for questions at the
end of the presentation.
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So next slide please.
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So real quickly,
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just to highlight the
PacifiCorp's service territory
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in Northern California.
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The territory extends across
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approximately 11,000
square miles where we serve
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roughly 45,000 customers
with 63 substations,
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2,520 miles of distribution
line and 800 miles
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of transmission line.
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Of that, approximately 1200
miles or approximately 36%
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of the overhead lines are located
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within the high fire threat
district that correlates
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to roughly 850 miles of
overhead distribution line
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and 350 miles of transmission line.
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Next slide please.
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So current PSPS plans
at PacifiCorp are limited
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to the tier three areas.
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And as you can see on graphic
on the left side of this slide
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it is further broken down
into five specific PSPS zones.
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The reason we break it
down into further five zones
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or further into five zones is
to minimize customer impact.
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And if you look at the
table on the right side
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of this slide, you can see
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that we have approximately
10,000 customers
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within the identified PSPS
areas with the majority
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of those customers located
in the Mount Shasta area
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but also a significant portion,
over 2000 customers located
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in the Weed area.
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And that's important
for today's discussion
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as we look back at the results
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in 2020, which I will touch
on with the next slide please.
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So similar to all of our
colleagues in the utility industry,
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we attempt to use the PSPS
as a measure of last resort.
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We have protocols in
place too that are designed
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to minimize the frequency
and impact on our customers
00:18:50.010 --> 00:18:51.653
from PSPS events.
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We notify our customers
based on forecast though
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yet we make decisions
to de-energize based
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on actual real-time conditions.
00:19:00.740 --> 00:19:03.330
We've also created circuit
segmentation plans for all
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of our tier three circuits and
prior to making any decision
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to execute a PSPS, we review
current system conditions,
00:19:10.560 --> 00:19:13.260
vegetation work plans and we engage
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with our critical customers.
00:19:14.510 --> 00:19:18.060
We understand local
suppression that may be available,
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understand any conditions
that may be present
00:19:19.747 --> 00:19:21.800
in the communities that we serve
00:19:21.800 --> 00:19:24.050
from an emergency responder perspective
00:19:24.050 --> 00:19:27.040
that would potentially
influence our decision.
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So if we look back at 2020,
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we effectively had three
public facing events.
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Two of which were, I guess,
00:19:35.260 --> 00:19:37.490
for lack of a better
description were false positives
00:19:37.490 --> 00:19:40.260
with one event on September 13,
00:19:40.260 --> 00:19:43.443
actually ending up in a
de-energization event.
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The de-energization event
on September 13th affected
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approximately 3000
customers with a total duration
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of just under eight hours.
00:19:53.100 --> 00:19:56.670
And this event affected
two distribution circuits
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that I'll provide a little
more detail on the next slide.
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So the two circuits impacted in 2020
00:20:04.060 --> 00:20:09.060
by the PSPS were circuit
5G83 and circuit 5G45
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and as you can see on
the left side of the slide,
00:20:11.460 --> 00:20:16.460
circuit 5G83 impacted 1,976
customers with just under 17,000
00:20:18.425 --> 00:20:21.620
or 1700 of those
customers being residential,
00:20:21.620 --> 00:20:25.670
approximately 263 being
commercial/industrial,
00:20:25.670 --> 00:20:30.190
three, medically sensitive
and 17 in other classifications.
00:20:30.190 --> 00:20:33.500
Circuit 5G45, there was
a total customer impact
00:20:33.500 --> 00:20:36.400
of 581 with 444
00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:40.467
of those customers being
the residential classification.
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President Batjer,
could I ask him.
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Next slide please.
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Yes
Yes please, go on.
00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:47.140
Go ahead, please.
00:20:47.140 --> 00:20:49.530
Okay, I'm reminded
of the question
00:20:49.530 --> 00:20:53.010
that you asked Southern
California Edison and I'll ask
00:20:53.010 --> 00:20:57.570
it here and that is,
just briefly step through
00:20:57.570 --> 00:21:02.023
the actual protocols that
you go through to decide
00:21:03.420 --> 00:21:05.693
that a PSPS must be invoked.
00:21:09.930 --> 00:21:13.330
Okay, I think I may
actually cover off on that a bit
00:21:13.330 --> 00:21:15.080
in one of the other slides.
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Or actually, let me see here.
00:21:17.300 --> 00:21:21.560
Maybe we back up to the
previous slide that had the.
00:21:21.560 --> 00:21:25.290
Just to get that
more granular insight,
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here's what happens.
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Yeah, one more please.
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So one more please.
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Right there, okay.
00:21:33.080 --> 00:21:37.670
So with respect to actually
enacting a PSPS event,
00:21:37.670 --> 00:21:40.580
similar to our
colleagues in the industry,
00:21:40.580 --> 00:21:44.580
we have developed
certain indices based on
00:21:44.580 --> 00:21:47.513
nationally recognized fire indexes.
00:21:48.820 --> 00:21:51.840
And we look at those along
with the weather forecast
00:21:53.140 --> 00:21:55.840
and determine based on that forecast
00:21:55.840 --> 00:21:57.770
and that's the
challenge for all utilities
00:21:57.770 --> 00:22:01.430
in that it is actually a
forecast, a weather forecast,
00:22:01.430 --> 00:22:03.980
but we evaluate those indices.
00:22:03.980 --> 00:22:07.530
We also review our
internal system status,
00:22:07.530 --> 00:22:09.670
our vegetation work plans.
00:22:09.670 --> 00:22:12.580
We engage with local
emergency responders.
00:22:12.580 --> 00:22:15.130
We evaluate historiCAL FIRE history.
00:22:15.130 --> 00:22:19.340
We look at any current
emergencies or situations
00:22:19.340 --> 00:22:23.260
in the communities in which
we are contemplating a PSPS
00:22:23.260 --> 00:22:26.430
to ensure that we don't
make the situation worse
00:22:26.430 --> 00:22:30.120
by de-energizing the
power during that timeframe.
00:22:30.120 --> 00:22:32.550
So all of those factors are evaluated
00:22:32.550 --> 00:22:35.250
and then we have
additional internal discussions
00:22:35.250 --> 00:22:39.330
and then as the time nears,
contingent upon feedback we get
00:22:39.330 --> 00:22:42.600
from local field
resources that we deploy
00:22:42.600 --> 00:22:45.660
as well as continuous
feedback we receive
00:22:45.660 --> 00:22:48.650
from the local emergency
response community,
00:22:48.650 --> 00:22:51.720
that's what leads us to
ultimately make the decision as to
00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:55.680
whether or not a
de-energization will occur.
00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:58.500
The challenge here
for us and for everyone
00:22:58.500 --> 00:23:01.900
in the industry is
that our initial planning
00:23:01.900 --> 00:23:04.950
and decision-making is
based on a weather forecast
00:23:04.950 --> 00:23:08.650
as touched on early
on by President Batjer.
00:23:08.650 --> 00:23:10.830
Is that helpful and answer
your question, Commissioner?
00:23:10.830 --> 00:23:14.918
Yes, thank you.
00:23:14.918 --> 00:23:15.751
Thank you.
00:23:15.751 --> 00:23:16.584
So maybe now.
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So lessons learned and
this is appropriate timing
00:23:24.800 --> 00:23:27.460
with respect to this hearing today.
00:23:27.460 --> 00:23:29.010
The biggest lessons that we took away
00:23:29.010 --> 00:23:31.250
from those three public facing events
00:23:31.250 --> 00:23:36.010
in 2020 is really about
communication and it's communication
00:23:36.010 --> 00:23:38.760
that we have with local
emergency services,
00:23:38.760 --> 00:23:40.420
community stakeholders
00:23:40.420 --> 00:23:43.203
as well as the actual end use customers.
00:23:44.066 --> 00:23:46.580
And from those lessons, we do have plans
00:23:46.580 --> 00:23:49.220
to continue, improve
upon our notification
00:23:49.220 --> 00:23:51.820
and documentation of events to increase
00:23:51.820 --> 00:23:54.400
that communication amongst
the various departments
00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:58.090
within the company and
with our external stakeholders.
00:23:58.090 --> 00:23:59.710
Access to GIS data
00:23:59.710 --> 00:24:01.790
through shape files
will be made available
00:24:01.790 --> 00:24:05.250
during notification to
public safety partners
00:24:05.250 --> 00:24:08.050
and we plan to improve
upon the company website
00:24:08.050 --> 00:24:09.830
to include weather forecast data,
00:24:09.830 --> 00:24:14.400
to improve transparency
on a potential PSPS event.
00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:17.770
And then my next several
slides I'll provide more detail
00:24:17.770 --> 00:24:21.230
on a couple of other areas
around continuous improvement,
00:24:21.230 --> 00:24:23.040
both on emergency management front
00:24:23.040 --> 00:24:26.000
as well as our weather
forecasting capability.
00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:27.073
So next slide please.
00:24:29.650 --> 00:24:31.280
So if I can draw your
attention to this slide,
00:24:31.280 --> 00:24:35.330
I mean, really it has been
a journey starting in 2019.
00:24:35.330 --> 00:24:37.740
We are committed at Pacific Power
00:24:37.740 --> 00:24:41.050
to deploy a continuous
improvement model,
00:24:41.050 --> 00:24:43.770
both as it relates to our
ability to communicate
00:24:43.770 --> 00:24:46.910
with the affected stakeholders
as well as our ability
00:24:46.910 --> 00:24:51.050
to more accurately and
precisely predict the situations
00:24:51.050 --> 00:24:54.470
in which a PSPS event may be required.
00:24:54.470 --> 00:24:58.390
And so on that front, if I can
get you to look at the 2021,
00:24:58.390 --> 00:25:00.710
we are making material advancements
00:25:00.710 --> 00:25:03.980
in our weather prediction capability.
00:25:03.980 --> 00:25:08.980
We recently brought on board
a chief meteorologist in 2021
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:11.420
with extensive utility experience
00:25:12.810 --> 00:25:17.040
in predictive weather
capability and PSPS forecasting.
00:25:17.040 --> 00:25:20.500
We also will be adding
additional meteorologists
00:25:20.500 --> 00:25:25.270
to the staff and we will
have an operation prior
00:25:25.270 --> 00:25:30.270
to the 2021 wildfire season,
a wildfire or the WRF model
00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:32.150
for better prediction capabilities.
00:25:33.090 --> 00:25:35.770
And then going forward in 2022,
00:25:35.770 --> 00:25:40.080
recognizing that this is a
continuous improvement journey,
00:25:40.080 --> 00:25:42.040
we will have in service,
00:25:42.040 --> 00:25:45.940
a high-performance computing
cluster so that we will be able
00:25:45.940 --> 00:25:49.860
to leverage machine learning
and impacts based forecasting.
00:25:49.860 --> 00:25:50.780
And then we'll be on
00:25:50.780 --> 00:25:52.830
that same continuous improvement journey
00:25:52.830 --> 00:25:55.690
and refinement about
potential fire indices
00:25:55.690 --> 00:25:59.580
and improve weather forecasting
by expanding the Mesonet
00:25:59.580 --> 00:26:02.560
that we will be utilizing
to predict the most
00:26:02.560 --> 00:26:06.740
and more extreme events
that may result in a PSPS event.
00:26:06.740 --> 00:26:08.910
I mean, at the end of the
day, our goal is to minimize
00:26:08.910 --> 00:26:12.700
to the greatest extent possible
the disruption that results
00:26:12.700 --> 00:26:15.360
from false positives while
continuing to take steps
00:26:15.360 --> 00:26:19.433
to protect public safety
utilizing this tool of last resort.
00:26:20.750 --> 00:26:21.703
Next slide please.
00:26:27.262 --> 00:26:28.790
So going back to stakeholder engagement
00:26:28.790 --> 00:26:32.000
and further improvements,
we also brought
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:35.240
into the organization a new director
00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:36.440
of emergency management,
00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:38.890
brought in just this month, actually.
00:26:38.890 --> 00:26:40.980
This individual is gonna be responsible
00:26:40.980 --> 00:26:44.690
for PacifiCorp's overall
strategy to improve training,
00:26:44.690 --> 00:26:49.420
communication and response
to PSPS event coordination.
00:26:49.420 --> 00:26:53.320
We also plan to further expand
our emergency management team
00:26:53.320 --> 00:26:57.280
in 2021 to provide
additional community outreach
00:26:57.280 --> 00:27:00.650
and 24/7 monitoring capability.
00:27:00.650 --> 00:27:03.450
And then lastly, we plan
to identify communities
00:27:03.450 --> 00:27:06.250
beyond the tier two
and tier three areas,
00:27:06.250 --> 00:27:08.154
to identify locations
00:27:08.154 --> 00:27:11.853
to hold additional wildfire
preparedness workshops.
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:14.350
Next slide, please.
00:27:14.350 --> 00:27:16.580
I have a quick
question, Marybel .
00:27:16.580 --> 00:27:17.730
Sorry to interrupt you.
00:27:18.670 --> 00:27:23.060
As you're adding to your
team, have you considered,
00:27:23.060 --> 00:27:28.060
has the company considered
hiring also a individual
00:27:28.250 --> 00:27:32.360
or an individual who has the
whole, the sole responsibility,
00:27:32.360 --> 00:27:36.737
excuse me, of working
with the AFN communities
00:27:36.737 --> 00:27:40.147
and medically, the Medical
Baseline community,
00:27:40.147 --> 00:27:41.913
the critical care facilities.
00:27:43.120 --> 00:27:46.060
I know this is a great
concern of the communities
00:27:46.060 --> 00:27:49.920
that all too often in
the IOUs we've seen
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:54.820
that there is a person who
has perhaps that responsibility
00:27:54.820 --> 00:27:56.900
but that person wears many hats.
00:27:56.900 --> 00:28:01.900
So it's not a devoted
person or FTE's specifically.
00:28:03.460 --> 00:28:05.510
Have you given any
consideration to that?
00:28:06.990 --> 00:28:09.130
Not specifically
President Batjer.
00:28:09.130 --> 00:28:11.810
However, as I mentioned when we,
00:28:11.810 --> 00:28:14.670
as we bring this new
individual on and we continue
00:28:14.670 --> 00:28:16.660
to assess our internal capabilities,
00:28:16.660 --> 00:28:18.500
I mean, we do have, as you mentioned,
00:28:18.500 --> 00:28:21.410
certain full-time employees
within the organization
00:28:21.410 --> 00:28:25.310
that typically are dedicated
to our AFN type customers
00:28:25.310 --> 00:28:29.300
and to my knowledge,
they did do a fairly decent job
00:28:29.300 --> 00:28:32.480
at least based on the feedback
we got last year in engaging
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:34.120
with that community.
00:28:34.120 --> 00:28:36.090
But certainly as we look
00:28:36.090 --> 00:28:39.373
to improve upon our plans
going forward, that's something
00:28:39.373 --> 00:28:42.470
that we would certainly
take under consideration.
00:28:42.470 --> 00:28:43.980
I would appreciate that.
00:28:43.980 --> 00:28:47.140
One final question from me.
00:28:47.140 --> 00:28:49.190
And that is you talked about,
00:28:49.190 --> 00:28:52.430
described your
fragmentation of your circuitry
00:28:52.430 --> 00:28:55.483
and some of your efforts
to harden the circuits.
00:28:56.390 --> 00:28:59.570
What kind of backup
power do you currently use
00:28:59.570 --> 00:29:00.793
at your substations.
00:29:03.290 --> 00:29:07.093
That would primarily be
battery DC power at substations.
00:29:08.350 --> 00:29:10.950
Battery DC power, okay.
00:29:10.950 --> 00:29:13.057
Correct.
Okay, thank you.
00:29:14.120 --> 00:29:15.003
Please continue.
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:18.113
Okay, next slide please.
00:29:24.110 --> 00:29:28.150
So, and this touches a bit
on that topic, President Batjer
00:29:28.150 --> 00:29:32.510
with respect to limiting or
reducing the customer impact.
00:29:32.510 --> 00:29:33.720
Pacific power
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:36.580
does currently have a
community resiliency program
00:29:36.580 --> 00:29:38.650
that includes a portfolio of resources
00:29:38.650 --> 00:29:41.610
and currently it's really
two specific areas,
00:29:41.610 --> 00:29:42.670
technical assessments
00:29:42.670 --> 00:29:45.210
to help the communities
evaluate potential costs
00:29:45.210 --> 00:29:48.380
and benefits of adding energy storage
00:29:48.380 --> 00:29:51.630
or associated technologies
to critical facilities.
00:29:51.630 --> 00:29:55.080
Applications are currently
being accepted for that portion
00:29:55.080 --> 00:29:57.800
of the program and then
assessments are going
00:29:57.800 --> 00:30:01.340
to be initiated on a first
come first serve basis.
00:30:01.340 --> 00:30:04.740
The second program to
help minimize that impact
00:30:04.740 --> 00:30:07.540
on the community that
we were discussing is really
00:30:07.540 --> 00:30:09.500
around grants that are
available for the purchase
00:30:09.500 --> 00:30:12.840
of portable renewable backup
generators and installation
00:30:12.840 --> 00:30:15.203
of energy storage
at critical facilities.
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:19.750
Currently the grant requests
are going to be accepted
00:30:19.750 --> 00:30:22.580
through July through
November of this year.
00:30:22.580 --> 00:30:27.580
We have approximately $400,000
of available funding in 2021
00:30:28.100 --> 00:30:31.740
and we will continue to work
with local emergency management
00:30:31.740 --> 00:30:35.140
through our service territory
to identify potential projects
00:30:35.140 --> 00:30:37.380
But one of the forms that we utilize for
00:30:37.380 --> 00:30:40.450
that process is the wildfire
safety advisory board,
00:30:40.450 --> 00:30:43.170
which we have folks
from our organization
00:30:43.170 --> 00:30:48.170
as well as all the other
external stakeholders involved
00:30:48.170 --> 00:30:52.110
during those discussions to
help identify specific locations
00:30:52.110 --> 00:30:54.550
that these types of
programs may help address
00:30:54.550 --> 00:30:57.107
or minimize some of those impacts.
00:30:57.107 --> 00:31:01.740
Can we drill down just a
minute there on two things?
00:31:01.740 --> 00:31:04.940
What is the per unit
cost of the batteries
00:31:04.940 --> 00:31:06.760
like the one that's shown there
00:31:06.760 --> 00:31:10.533
and how much of the
grant will cover that cost?
00:31:11.520 --> 00:31:14.520
And is that your only backup
battery that you're offering
00:31:14.520 --> 00:31:15.603
to your customers?
00:31:17.330 --> 00:31:18.450
That is one.
00:31:18.450 --> 00:31:20.980
So, I mean, just quite frankly,
00:31:20.980 --> 00:31:25.150
I mean, we're still at the
early stages of this aspect
00:31:25.150 --> 00:31:27.780
of our wildfire mitigation plan.
00:31:27.780 --> 00:31:29.570
The grants will cover some
00:31:29.570 --> 00:31:33.270
of those battery type
backup power that are shown
00:31:33.270 --> 00:31:34.930
on this slide.
00:31:34.930 --> 00:31:36.730
I do not, I'll have to get back to you.
00:31:36.730 --> 00:31:38.330
I do not have the specific cost
00:31:38.330 --> 00:31:40.930
on a dollar per kilowatt
basis for example
00:31:40.930 --> 00:31:43.450
of what those cost.
00:31:43.450 --> 00:31:45.950
Mostly targeting though,
towards the low income
00:31:45.950 --> 00:31:48.210
or the care customers within the PDZs
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:54.680
Just concerned about,
$400,000 is a bucket of money
00:31:54.840 --> 00:31:59.080
but you have 5,000 folks
in part of your territory
00:31:59.080 --> 00:32:00.090
that were turned off.
00:32:00.090 --> 00:32:02.070
You have 2000, I don't recall
00:32:02.070 --> 00:32:05.800
on this slide, the Medical
Baseline but it seems to me
00:32:05.800 --> 00:32:10.800
just intuitively that $400,000
isn't gonna go very far.
00:32:11.770 --> 00:32:14.460
So I was just wondering
what the per unit cost is.
00:32:14.460 --> 00:32:16.920
The other thing I'm a
little concerned about is
00:32:18.120 --> 00:32:21.280
how long does it take to get
one of these backup batteries
00:32:21.280 --> 00:32:26.030
to a customer because applying
in July through November,
00:32:26.030 --> 00:32:28.340
that's the height of fire season.
00:32:28.340 --> 00:32:30.560
So they would be
applying at the same time,
00:32:30.560 --> 00:32:33.060
they might be getting shut off.
00:32:33.060 --> 00:32:35.210
So how long will the distribution,
00:32:35.210 --> 00:32:38.773
the supply chain and
the distribution take?
00:32:40.580 --> 00:32:41.926
Correct, we'll have
to get back to you
00:32:41.926 --> 00:32:44.950
on those specific questions
around the supply chain.
00:32:44.950 --> 00:32:47.390
Recognizing that this is a 2021 pilot.
00:32:47.390 --> 00:32:49.720
I would however like to direct,
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:50.850
if we look at the table on the top right
00:32:50.850 --> 00:32:54.110
of this particular slide,
as I mentioned on some
00:32:54.110 --> 00:32:57.677
of the other material, we
have roughly 10,000 customers
00:32:57.677 --> 00:33:01.690
in the PDZ zones that
may potentially be affected
00:33:01.690 --> 00:33:03.590
and then you can see a
breakout of the total number
00:33:03.590 --> 00:33:06.390
of customers based on
low-income life support,
00:33:06.390 --> 00:33:08.130
medical or AFN.
00:33:08.130 --> 00:33:11.060
So, although I certainly
understand the concern you express
00:33:11.060 --> 00:33:15.100
around the overall total
funding level, I think our scope
00:33:15.100 --> 00:33:17.470
and scale with the customers
00:33:17.470 --> 00:33:20.850
that may need this assistance
most, may be smaller
00:33:20.850 --> 00:33:24.930
for Pacific Power than
some of the other utilities.
00:33:24.930 --> 00:33:26.780
But certainly great
questions that we'll need
00:33:26.780 --> 00:33:28.640
to get back to you on.
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.180
And thank you for bringing
my attention to the chart.
00:33:31.180 --> 00:33:32.250
It's pretty small.
00:33:32.250 --> 00:33:34.932
So I'm squinting my eyes to
see it but thank you for that.
00:33:34.932 --> 00:33:36.663
I apologize for that.
00:33:36.663 --> 00:33:40.310
I would like to know your
timeframe for distribution
00:33:40.310 --> 00:33:43.420
of backup batteries and
how long that logistics,
00:33:43.420 --> 00:33:46.510
if you will, will take
between PacifiCorp
00:33:46.510 --> 00:33:50.640
and their customers because you operate
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:54.490
in a very high fire danger
area as we all know well.
00:33:54.490 --> 00:33:56.102
So thank you.
00:33:56.102 --> 00:33:57.397
And President Batjer,
00:33:58.770 --> 00:34:00.303
David, if I could pile on this.
00:34:00.303 --> 00:34:02.470
This is Commissioner Rechtschaffen,
00:34:02.470 --> 00:34:04.120
the questions you're responding to,
00:34:04.120 --> 00:34:07.580
just in addition to that,
when you do respond,
00:34:07.580 --> 00:34:12.190
if you could tell us that
the type of backup devices
00:34:12.190 --> 00:34:13.860
that you have in mind are these ones
00:34:13.860 --> 00:34:17.920
that provide backup power
for an appliance for a few hours
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:20.420
or they're storage
systems that provide backup
00:34:20.420 --> 00:34:22.110
for an entire home
00:34:22.110 --> 00:34:26.913
or what kinds of backup
batteries are we talking about?
00:34:29.530 --> 00:34:31.390
So if I understand the
question, we'll get back to you
00:34:31.390 --> 00:34:34.810
on the actual capacity
of the emergency devices
00:34:34.810 --> 00:34:36.060
that we're talking about.
00:34:36.060 --> 00:34:37.500
Right, because
there's a variety.
00:34:37.500 --> 00:34:40.610
Some are designed just to
provide backup power for two
00:34:40.610 --> 00:34:43.300
or three hours at enough capacity
00:34:43.300 --> 00:34:46.510
to keep an appliance
running like an oxygen tank
00:34:46.510 --> 00:34:47.850
or a CPAP or something
00:34:47.850 --> 00:34:52.850
and others provide much
greater capacity for home
00:34:52.870 --> 00:34:57.040
or major appliances in a
home for several hours.
00:34:57.040 --> 00:34:58.730
So that would be interesting
00:34:58.730 --> 00:35:00.630
that we would wanna know that as well.
00:35:02.080 --> 00:35:02.933
Correct, okay.
00:35:07.570 --> 00:35:10.440
Any other questions or I
think I only have one slide left.
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:11.960
So if there are no other questions,
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:13.100
I guess we can move to this.
00:35:13.100 --> 00:35:15.490
Yes, you can continue.
00:35:15.490 --> 00:35:16.950
Okay, excellent, thank you.
00:35:16.950 --> 00:35:20.240
So I won't read through
all of the bullets on this slide
00:35:20.240 --> 00:35:22.360
but really what it's
intended to convey is
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:25.230
that Pacific Power
plans to continue its focus
00:35:25.230 --> 00:35:27.130
on its wildfire mitigation plan,
00:35:27.130 --> 00:35:30.020
specifically the plan that was
approved by the Commission
00:35:30.020 --> 00:35:34.200
in 2020 with the
overall effort and goals
00:35:34.200 --> 00:35:39.200
to minimize both scope and
scale of potential PSPS events
00:35:39.410 --> 00:35:42.130
and that can only occur
through continued focus
00:35:42.130 --> 00:35:45.060
on customer preparedness,
situational awareness,
00:35:45.060 --> 00:35:47.710
asset inspections and grid hardening.
00:35:47.710 --> 00:35:49.910
Again, won't read
through each of the bullets
00:35:49.910 --> 00:35:53.500
but you can see that we
are focusing on in 2021
00:35:53.500 --> 00:35:56.840
and the future, replacement
of bare conductor
00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:58.230
with covered conductor,
00:35:58.230 --> 00:36:01.320
replacement or
reinforcement of wood poles,
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:05.040
installation of additional
system automation equipment
00:36:05.040 --> 00:36:08.440
and replacement of small
diameter conductor beginning
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:09.603
in 2022.
00:36:12.070 --> 00:36:15.080
And so that concludes my presentation
00:36:15.080 --> 00:36:16.820
and we'll turn it back to the Commission
00:36:16.820 --> 00:36:19.080
for any further questions.
00:36:19.080 --> 00:36:22.870
I think there is a question
that hasn't been answered yet,
00:36:22.870 --> 00:36:26.480
David, that Commissioner
Guzman Aceves started with
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.047
and I won't repeat it for her,
00:36:28.047 --> 00:36:33.047
has to do with your communications
with the telco companies
00:36:33.450 --> 00:36:38.450
as well as servicing the
water and municipalities.
00:36:40.340 --> 00:36:43.860
Martha, do you wanna
not re-ask your question?
00:36:43.860 --> 00:36:45.030
Oh, thank you,
President Batjer.
00:36:45.030 --> 00:36:49.390
Yes, it's just looking
at that last slide actually
00:36:51.340 --> 00:36:54.870
that you did talk about, but
it is not quite covered there.
00:36:54.870 --> 00:36:57.640
Is this planning and coordination
00:36:57.640 --> 00:37:00.960
with the critical
facilities in your area
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:03.193
and the first responders.
00:37:04.050 --> 00:37:08.050
And in particularly
with the focus of today
00:37:08.050 --> 00:37:12.070
in the AFN community, the
need has been really reiterated.
00:37:12.070 --> 00:37:15.553
In addition, obviously to having
that in-home backup power,
00:37:15.553 --> 00:37:17.410
there's a needed to actually be able
00:37:17.410 --> 00:37:19.580
to continue to communicate.
00:37:19.580 --> 00:37:23.440
And can you talk about
what you're doing to really be
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:26.873
in coordination with your local
telecommunication providers?
00:37:29.060 --> 00:37:31.730
So in our previous efforts
and I guess first, let me say,
00:37:31.730 --> 00:37:34.930
I may not be able to
provide a specific response
00:37:34.930 --> 00:37:36.570
to that question on,
00:37:36.570 --> 00:37:39.860
regarding a specific
provider or a specific location
00:37:39.860 --> 00:37:44.410
but what I can say is that
during the 2019/2020 timeframe,
00:37:44.410 --> 00:37:45.960
we held numerous public meetings
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:47.560
both with the local
emergency responders.
00:37:47.560 --> 00:37:51.700
We held workshops, we
reached out directly to those types
00:37:51.700 --> 00:37:55.380
of providers in the community,
getting them to engage
00:37:55.380 --> 00:37:56.550
on the topic.
00:37:56.550 --> 00:38:00.520
And as I hopefully highlighted
in the presentation today,
00:38:00.520 --> 00:38:04.870
we plan to make continued
improvement on that front
00:38:04.870 --> 00:38:08.620
by the addition of additional
resources within Pacific Power
00:38:08.620 --> 00:38:11.960
to continue that outreach,
to continue that coordination
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:14.350
and I believe that through enhancement
00:38:14.350 --> 00:38:16.420
of the emergency
management organization,
00:38:16.420 --> 00:38:19.790
along with enhancement
of our weather forecasting,
00:38:19.790 --> 00:38:23.293
that will hopefully close
that gap if there is any gap.
00:38:27.410 --> 00:38:30.843
Okay, we are at 9:45.
00:38:32.020 --> 00:38:36.863
Are there any other, or
is there a final question?
00:38:41.328 --> 00:38:43.640
I just wanted to,
00:38:43.640 --> 00:38:46.040
others who haven't asked
a question yet, thanks.
00:38:49.394 --> 00:38:51.490
This is Darcie Houck.
00:38:51.490 --> 00:38:52.520
I just wanted to ask
00:38:52.520 --> 00:38:55.490
if you could briefly talk
about your tribal coordination
00:38:55.490 --> 00:38:58.763
and consultation with
the tribes in your territory.
00:39:01.130 --> 00:39:02.250
Okay, good question.
00:39:02.250 --> 00:39:07.250
Yeah, so we did make outreach
earlier during this process
00:39:07.730 --> 00:39:11.700
and it's my understanding
that we do have members
00:39:11.700 --> 00:39:13.480
of the tribe as part
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:16.720
of our wildfire safety
advisory board committees,
00:39:16.720 --> 00:39:19.030
where they hold routine meetings
00:39:19.030 --> 00:39:22.330
and I don't have any other
specific feedback or concerns
00:39:22.330 --> 00:39:25.583
at this time with respect to
that particular stakeholder.
00:39:27.430 --> 00:39:29.940
Thank you.
I think it would be helpful
00:39:29.940 --> 00:39:32.830
if you, when you're
giving us other information
00:39:32.830 --> 00:39:35.770
that we've asked for, Mr. Lucas,
00:39:35.770 --> 00:39:37.750
if you could also give
us some more detail
00:39:37.750 --> 00:39:40.340
about your communication with the tribes
00:39:40.340 --> 00:39:45.090
and any individual
consultation that you're having
00:39:45.090 --> 00:39:49.720
with the tribes, not just the
overall PSPS meetings and
00:39:49.720 --> 00:39:53.330
of the larger group but
specifically what are you doing
00:39:53.330 --> 00:39:56.263
with the individual tribes
in your service territory?
00:39:58.402 --> 00:39:59.652
Okay.
Okay.
00:40:02.810 --> 00:40:04.750
Any other final questions?
00:40:04.750 --> 00:40:07.330
Chief Deputy Curry or Chief Porter,
00:40:07.330 --> 00:40:08.793
any questions to PacifiCorp?
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:12.800
Nothing from me, this is Tina.
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:15.290
Thank you so much for the presentation.
00:40:15.290 --> 00:40:16.830
You bet, okay.
00:40:16.830 --> 00:40:19.987
With that, thank you very
much PacificCorp (indistinct).
00:40:23.700 --> 00:40:26.360
From CAL
FIRE had his hand up.
00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:27.550
I couldn't see it.
00:40:27.550 --> 00:40:29.793
Okay, please go forward, please.
00:40:33.259 --> 00:40:35.370
(indistinct) hardening, do
you have any percentages
00:40:35.370 --> 00:40:36.880
of the replacement that
you've already done?
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.430
You gave some targets for 2021 numbers,
00:40:39.430 --> 00:40:41.800
but for pole replacements, for example,
00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:45.500
your target addition is
only 3% of the overall target.
00:40:45.500 --> 00:40:47.760
So just curious how
much you've already done
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:49.160
and then the second part related
00:40:49.160 --> 00:40:51.140
to the infrastructure hardening is,
00:40:51.140 --> 00:40:53.260
do you include asset health and the age
00:40:53.260 --> 00:40:56.893
of the infrastructure in
your PSPS decision-making.
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:03.303
So first question, I don't
have the specific numbers on.
00:41:05.050 --> 00:41:06.213
Getting some feedback.
00:41:07.948 --> 00:41:09.302
So I apologize for that.
00:41:09.302 --> 00:41:12.200
So I don't have the specific
numbers on percent complete.
00:41:12.200 --> 00:41:13.930
I mean, I think initially,
00:41:13.930 --> 00:41:17.420
given that we are operating
under our second approved plan
00:41:17.420 --> 00:41:20.300
and as we've continued
to enhance our capability
00:41:20.300 --> 00:41:24.360
to assess the risk and develop
risk models like highlighted
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:27.620
in the most recent 2021 update filing,
00:41:27.620 --> 00:41:29.420
there has been some
shifting in priorities
00:41:29.420 --> 00:41:31.310
with respect to hardening.
00:41:31.310 --> 00:41:32.720
It has taken a little bit
00:41:32.720 --> 00:41:35.253
of time get those programs up to speed.
00:41:37.860 --> 00:41:40.550
One of the other efforts not
highlighted here today though
00:41:40.550 --> 00:41:43.100
in our 2021 update filing,
00:41:43.100 --> 00:41:45.820
we do point out all of
those specific numbers
00:41:45.820 --> 00:41:48.780
that you were asking about and
we can go back and pull some
00:41:48.780 --> 00:41:50.810
of those out if that would be helpful.
00:41:50.810 --> 00:41:53.110
Now, with respect to the last question.
00:41:53.110 --> 00:41:55.130
As I mentioned earlier
in the presentation,
00:41:55.130 --> 00:41:57.520
when we began to evaluate a PSPS based
00:41:57.520 --> 00:42:00.130
on a longer term weather
forecast, we do look
00:42:00.130 --> 00:42:02.550
at overall asset health,
00:42:02.550 --> 00:42:04.970
a number of outstanding
system conditions,
00:42:04.970 --> 00:42:07.680
status of vegetation work on the system,
00:42:07.680 --> 00:42:11.040
as well as those other
items that I highlighted
00:42:11.040 --> 00:42:13.650
in ultimately making that decision.
00:42:13.650 --> 00:42:17.690
Recognizing that a number of
the risks that we're attempting
00:42:17.690 --> 00:42:21.200
to mitigate are very challenging,
00:42:21.200 --> 00:42:23.483
especially in the context of vegetation.
00:42:30.858 --> 00:42:34.025
Is there any
followup Chief Berlant?
00:42:36.138 --> 00:42:36.971
Folks are gonna have to speak up
00:42:36.971 --> 00:42:40.780
because I can't see
everybody on like landscape.
00:42:40.780 --> 00:42:42.113
Okay, with that.
00:42:43.557 --> 00:42:45.760
Sorry, President
Batjer, just real quickly on
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:48.150
that last point that Mr. Lucas made
00:42:48.150 --> 00:42:49.800
on the status of vegetation.
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:53.710
Do you have more specific
examples that obviously,
00:42:53.710 --> 00:42:56.850
that's a big focus
for all of us right now.
00:42:56.850 --> 00:43:01.850
Are you saying you look
at putting additional areas
00:43:03.330 --> 00:43:07.500
into shut off if there
vegetation management has
00:43:07.500 --> 00:43:09.253
not met a certain threshold?
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:13.230
No
Commissioner, (indistinct).
00:43:13.230 --> 00:43:15.170
Yeah.
Sorry about that.
00:43:15.170 --> 00:43:16.950
No, my comment was in the context
00:43:16.950 --> 00:43:19.500
or relative to the PSPS zones
00:43:19.500 --> 00:43:21.943
that I highlighted in the presentation.
00:43:26.650 --> 00:43:28.490
Right, I'm just
trying to connect it to,
00:43:28.490 --> 00:43:30.933
when you say you're
using the vegetation,
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:35.020
your status on vegetation management,
00:43:35.020 --> 00:43:37.883
can you give an example of
how you're using that input?
00:43:39.500 --> 00:43:40.333
Sure, yes.
00:43:40.333 --> 00:43:42.130
I mean, so when we think
about vegetation management
00:43:42.130 --> 00:43:43.740
across a very large system.
00:43:43.740 --> 00:43:48.530
It's an ongoing continuous
effort or work effort to ensure
00:43:48.530 --> 00:43:51.170
that vegetation is
not only in compliance
00:43:51.170 --> 00:43:55.260
with the regulatory obligations
but also in a situation
00:43:55.260 --> 00:43:59.440
or in a condition that
minimizes the overall wildfire risk.
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:02.460
It's not, as I'm sure
you're aware something
00:44:02.460 --> 00:44:05.980
that can be completed and
then you can forget about it.
00:44:05.980 --> 00:44:10.550
So for my example, if we
believe we may be at risk
00:44:10.550 --> 00:44:15.450
in an area of a PSPS implementation,
00:44:15.450 --> 00:44:19.150
we dispatch additional
vegetation crews to the field
00:44:19.150 --> 00:44:22.150
to begin, I hate to use the
word last minute evaluation
00:44:22.150 --> 00:44:25.830
but pre-event evaluation
of the vegetation
00:44:25.830 --> 00:44:28.070
because those things can change relative
00:44:28.070 --> 00:44:30.460
to the last time the
scheduled work was performed.
00:44:30.460 --> 00:44:32.163
So that's what intended to convey.
00:44:37.160 --> 00:44:38.487
Okay, thank you.
00:44:38.487 --> 00:44:40.540
And this is Chief Porter.
00:44:40.540 --> 00:44:42.940
Just to confirm, that's not in lieu
00:44:42.940 --> 00:44:46.900
of doing the proactive
vegetation management work
00:44:46.900 --> 00:44:48.660
that is ongoing, correct.
00:44:48.660 --> 00:44:53.660
It's just a response to an
event that may be happening
00:44:54.053 --> 00:44:56.730
and further tuning your process.
00:44:56.730 --> 00:45:01.283
Is that a fair assessment?
00:45:02.460 --> 00:45:06.457
That is correct.
Thank you.
00:45:06.457 --> 00:45:08.610
And thank you, chief Berlant.
00:45:08.610 --> 00:45:11.323
Thank you, President
Batjer for indulging us.
00:45:12.530 --> 00:45:14.350
Absolutely, that's
what we're all here
00:45:14.350 --> 00:45:16.143
for today Chief Porter.
00:45:17.160 --> 00:45:19.700
Any final questions before we move on
00:45:19.700 --> 00:45:21.183
to our next presentation?
00:45:24.098 --> 00:45:27.070
President Batjer,
just an observation
00:45:27.070 --> 00:45:28.703
in the grid hardening.
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:34.800
4,326 poles that are identified
as needing replacement
00:45:35.820 --> 00:45:40.820
in 2021, only replacing 128 poles.
00:45:41.710 --> 00:45:46.710
And so even the
follow on from the utility
00:45:47.238 --> 00:45:49.750
do you have a better
understanding of the context
00:45:50.780 --> 00:45:52.170
of that number.
00:45:52.170 --> 00:45:54.980
I imagine there's a risk
assessment that's done
00:45:54.980 --> 00:45:57.677
for the panoply of
things that are being done
00:45:57.677 --> 00:46:00.180
and we've heard about some of that today
00:46:00.180 --> 00:46:03.030
but it just looked like such
a small number compared
00:46:03.030 --> 00:46:06.063
to the magnitude of the
poles that need replacing.
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:12.450
It is recognizing that
we're still fairly early
00:46:12.450 --> 00:46:14.930
in the overall wildfire
mitigation planning
00:46:14.930 --> 00:46:16.830
and scoping process.
00:46:16.830 --> 00:46:21.830
We recently, as submitted in
our 2021 update have improved
00:46:22.620 --> 00:46:26.120
upon our overall risk
assessment and mapping
00:46:26.120 --> 00:46:29.000
that will guide us and direct us
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:31.760
on the asset hardening type projects
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:34.960
that we'll complete
over the next two, three
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:36.973
and six years, for example.
00:46:41.250 --> 00:46:44.690
Okay, with that, I
think we will move on
00:46:44.690 --> 00:46:45.790
to our next presentation.
00:46:45.790 --> 00:46:49.900
I want to thank PacifiCorp
for your presentation
00:46:49.900 --> 00:46:54.380
and we look very much
forward to the follow-up answers
00:46:54.380 --> 00:46:55.610
to some of our questions.
00:46:55.610 --> 00:46:59.490
So thank you, Stefan and David.
00:46:59.490 --> 00:47:00.633
Thank you very much.
00:47:01.624 --> 00:47:02.457
Thank you President Batjer.
Thank you
00:47:04.080 --> 00:47:07.920
Okay, well, we're running
a little bit behind now.
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:10.823
We are now going to be,
00:47:12.660 --> 00:47:16.900
the presentation will
now be turned to SDG&E
00:47:16.900 --> 00:47:19.460
and President Bruce
Folkmann will be giving
00:47:19.460 --> 00:47:20.570
that presentation.
00:47:20.570 --> 00:47:22.900
We have about 30
minutes for the presentation
00:47:22.900 --> 00:47:23.840
and discussion.
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:26.100
So just want everyone
to be mindful of that.
00:47:26.100 --> 00:47:27.840
We're running a little
bit behind already.
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:30.820
Thank you, President Folkmann.
00:47:30.820 --> 00:47:33.540
Okay, Thank you
President Batjer.
00:47:33.540 --> 00:47:34.373
Good morning.
00:47:34.373 --> 00:47:35.320
My name is Bruce Folkmann.
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:37.180
I'm the president and
chief financial officer
00:47:37.180 --> 00:47:39.090
for San Diego Gas and Electric.
00:47:39.090 --> 00:47:41.330
Thank you for the opportunity
to come before you today
00:47:41.330 --> 00:47:46.330
to address SDG&E's
execution of 2020 PSPS events.
00:47:47.520 --> 00:47:50.640
John Jenkins, our vice
president of operations,
00:47:50.640 --> 00:47:54.420
will provide more details
regarding last year's events
00:47:54.420 --> 00:47:57.310
and the specific
circumstances we observed,
00:47:57.310 --> 00:47:59.000
impacts on our system
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:02.100
but I'll provide a little bit
of background if I may,
00:48:02.100 --> 00:48:05.283
in particular, how we prepare
for an upcoming season.
00:48:06.120 --> 00:48:08.820
The extreme weather
events our region experienced
00:48:08.820 --> 00:48:11.210
last year were relatively unprecedented.
00:48:11.210 --> 00:48:14.490
We had 11 Santa Ana
wind events that resulted
00:48:14.490 --> 00:48:18.653
in red flag warnings of which
five required a PSPS response.
00:48:19.850 --> 00:48:23.520
In executing PSPS, the safety
of our customers, employees
00:48:23.520 --> 00:48:26.940
and the communities we serve
is always our highest priority.
00:48:26.940 --> 00:48:31.940
And the way we prepare for
those events can be broken
00:48:32.130 --> 00:48:34.280
into four categories really.
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:39.120
We prepare assets, we
prepare ourselves at SDG&E,
00:48:39.120 --> 00:48:41.350
we prepare our community safety partners
00:48:41.350 --> 00:48:43.463
and above all, we prepare our customers.
00:48:44.890 --> 00:48:47.030
Let me touch on preparing our assets.
00:48:47.030 --> 00:48:48.490
As I think all of you are aware,
00:48:48.490 --> 00:48:52.240
we have an extensive weather
monitoring station system
00:48:52.240 --> 00:48:53.960
in our service territory.
00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:56.800
We've added about 30
additional weather stations
00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:58.810
over the past year,
00:48:58.810 --> 00:49:00.553
but I think the particular
improvement I'd like
00:49:00.553 --> 00:49:02.850
to highlight there is
that we've also moved
00:49:02.850 --> 00:49:05.900
to a 3O second sampling interval
00:49:05.900 --> 00:49:08.690
and this gives us much
more detailed information.
00:49:08.690 --> 00:49:10.640
And for example, we can distinguish
00:49:10.640 --> 00:49:13.500
between a limited gust situation
00:49:13.500 --> 00:49:16.183
versus continuous high wind situations.
00:49:17.080 --> 00:49:21.130
We are using artificial
intelligence based predictive models
00:49:21.130 --> 00:49:23.890
to increase the
accuracy of our forecasts.
00:49:23.890 --> 00:49:27.023
We continue to enhance
our vegetation risk index.
00:49:28.140 --> 00:49:30.370
We are using human factors, engineering
00:49:30.370 --> 00:49:33.190
and human machine
interface to help integrate all
00:49:33.190 --> 00:49:36.630
of this information into
our PSPS management
00:49:38.790 --> 00:49:40.460
and we think all of that adds up
00:49:40.460 --> 00:49:44.323
to a much more successful
ability to respond to an event.
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:47.280
When I look at our fixed assets,
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:49.340
I did wanna highlight a few changes
00:49:49.340 --> 00:49:51.290
that we've made that we think are
00:49:51.290 --> 00:49:55.680
also very significant
risk mitigation factors.
00:49:55.680 --> 00:49:59.510
We under grounded about
30 miles in 2020 for wildfire
00:49:59.510 --> 00:50:02.973
and PSPS mitigation
purposes exclusively.
00:50:03.990 --> 00:50:06.990
This is at the end of the
day, the only way to really,
00:50:06.990 --> 00:50:09.432
we believe achieve
nearly 100% confidence
00:50:09.432 --> 00:50:12.640
that we've eliminated
the risk of wildfire
00:50:12.640 --> 00:50:17.430
but we use kind of a
cost-based approach in our,
00:50:17.430 --> 00:50:20.900
the way we invest in
falling conductor protections,
00:50:20.900 --> 00:50:24.933
covered conductors, our
traditional fire hardening.
00:50:26.640 --> 00:50:29.260
Our own private LTE
network is being built out
00:50:29.260 --> 00:50:31.260
to improve communications.
00:50:31.260 --> 00:50:32.970
We're doing all of these things
00:50:32.970 --> 00:50:36.880
to help ensure our infrastructure
is as safe as possible.
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:39.297
One area that we've
particularly pioneered recently
00:50:39.297 --> 00:50:43.000
is the use of drones
to inspect our assets.
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.940
It gives us an entirely
different perspective
00:50:45.940 --> 00:50:47.800
and I'm particularly excited
about this one because
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:50.270
of the way we've been
able to leverage technology
00:50:50.270 --> 00:50:55.010
and use automated image
processing to eventually we hope,
00:50:55.010 --> 00:50:57.080
eliminate human intervention
00:50:57.080 --> 00:51:00.193
in evaluating what these photos reveal.
00:51:01.690 --> 00:51:03.860
In the next category I wanted
00:51:03.860 --> 00:51:06.433
to talk about preparing ourselves.
00:51:07.600 --> 00:51:10.030
The COVID pandemic was pretty unique.
00:51:10.030 --> 00:51:12.920
So the main thing that we
focused on here was kind
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.190
of having a level one,
two, three approach
00:51:15.190 --> 00:51:18.950
to level one, 100% virtual EOC.
00:51:18.950 --> 00:51:21.410
Level two, where individuals can report
00:51:21.410 --> 00:51:25.220
to a company location if they're
having connectivity issues.
00:51:25.220 --> 00:51:28.070
Level three, certain key
positions respond in person
00:51:28.070 --> 00:51:30.190
to an EOC physically to manage events
00:51:30.190 --> 00:51:32.653
if the circumstances ever warrant.
00:51:33.580 --> 00:51:35.009
In particular, our training
00:51:35.009 --> 00:51:40.009
and exercise plan included
two commander trainings
00:51:40.630 --> 00:51:41.870
and workshops,
00:51:41.870 --> 00:51:44.840
seven emergency operation
center responder trainings
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:47.400
and three tabletop exercises.
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:48.960
We believe that sets us up very well
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:50.300
for success this past season
00:51:50.300 --> 00:51:52.500
and we'll use a similar
model going forward.
00:51:54.620 --> 00:51:55.670
The third category
00:51:55.670 --> 00:51:58.253
is preparing our
community safety partners.
00:51:59.230 --> 00:52:03.240
We hosted four public safety
power workshops with attendance
00:52:03.240 --> 00:52:06.010
from fire chiefs, emergency
management agencies
00:52:06.010 --> 00:52:09.770
in San Diego County
focused on PSPS, wildfire
00:52:09.770 --> 00:52:12.870
and COVID-19 response plans.
00:52:12.870 --> 00:52:14.260
We continue to partner.
00:52:14.260 --> 00:52:16.720
I'm very excited about our
partnership with CAL FIRE
00:52:16.720 --> 00:52:20.330
and the San Diego Sheriff's
Department and provided training
00:52:20.330 --> 00:52:22.190
in concert with those organizations
00:52:22.190 --> 00:52:26.640
for standardized evacuation
plans and protocols county wide.
00:52:26.640 --> 00:52:30.190
We coordinate weekly with
the leadership of Cal OES,
00:52:30.190 --> 00:52:34.703
CAL FIRE and CPUC in
preparation for wildfire seasons.
00:52:35.610 --> 00:52:39.150
The third category, I'm
sorry, the fourth category
00:52:39.150 --> 00:52:42.873
and most important is
preparing our customers.
00:52:43.870 --> 00:52:46.950
Prior to last year's fire season,
00:52:46.950 --> 00:52:49.770
we developed a few technology tools,
00:52:49.770 --> 00:52:54.010
a PSPS mobile application,
mobile phone alerts,
00:52:54.010 --> 00:52:58.200
electronic roadside
signage in PSPS areas,
00:52:58.200 --> 00:53:01.940
radio spots for real-time
updates and other techniques
00:53:01.940 --> 00:53:04.400
to help ensure that we had
the best partnership model
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.300
with our customers so they
can understand what was coming.
00:53:09.500 --> 00:53:14.450
All Medical Baseline customers
who experienced a PSPS event
00:53:14.450 --> 00:53:19.400
in 2019 were offered a
portable renewable generator
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:22.110
and an additional 1200
customers were subsidized
00:53:22.110 --> 00:53:24.863
by SDG&E in the HFTD.
00:53:26.300 --> 00:53:29.530
We continue to use these
advanced stakeholder communications
00:53:29.530 --> 00:53:32.870
remote emergency operation
center tours and outreach events
00:53:32.870 --> 00:53:34.680
to align preparedness
00:53:34.680 --> 00:53:38.490
and it includes four
webinars this past season
00:53:38.490 --> 00:53:40.380
to inform customers how to be prepared
00:53:40.380 --> 00:53:41.730
for the threat of wildfire.
00:53:43.060 --> 00:53:44.320
Over a dozen stakeholders
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:46.810
in the wildfire community
organized five drive
00:53:46.810 --> 00:53:50.680
through wildfire safety
fairs to communicate
00:53:50.680 --> 00:53:52.630
for those most prone to PSPS
00:53:54.110 --> 00:53:58.090
and we implemented drive
through community resource centers
00:53:58.090 --> 00:54:00.730
to operate safely during PSPS
00:54:00.730 --> 00:54:03.403
in combination with
the COVID-19 pandemic.
00:54:04.240 --> 00:54:06.500
Maintaining a close
collaboration with the county
00:54:06.500 --> 00:54:08.080
of the office of emergency services
00:54:08.080 --> 00:54:11.340
and county health
departments is also a priority.
00:54:11.340 --> 00:54:14.940
We continue to integrate feedback
from our community leaders
00:54:14.940 --> 00:54:17.923
through our wildfire safety
community advisory council.
00:54:18.860 --> 00:54:21.490
In closing, I wanted to assure
you that our commitment
00:54:21.490 --> 00:54:22.567
to the safety of our customers
00:54:22.567 --> 00:54:25.250
and the communities
we serve is unwavering.
00:54:25.250 --> 00:54:28.010
We continue to work with
state leaders, yourselves,
00:54:28.010 --> 00:54:30.410
agencies and other
customers to help identify
00:54:30.410 --> 00:54:33.070
and implement the right
solutions to adequately address
00:54:33.070 --> 00:54:35.870
and minimize the impacts of PSPS.
00:54:35.870 --> 00:54:38.840
Continuous innovation and
improvement are a hallmark
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:41.760
of our company culture and
will continue to be certainly
00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:43.800
as long as I'm with the company.
00:54:43.800 --> 00:54:45.507
I look forward to answering
any questions you may have
00:54:45.507 --> 00:54:47.670
and hearing from members of the public
00:54:47.670 --> 00:54:49.860
and now we can either
take a couple of questions
00:54:49.860 --> 00:54:51.199
or I'll turn it over to John Jenkins
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:55.825
for a more specific analysis
of 2020 PSPS events.
00:54:55.825 --> 00:54:57.740
Bruce, I have a couple
of questions real quickly
00:54:57.740 --> 00:54:59.163
before we move on.
00:55:00.260 --> 00:55:05.260
You said you underground
30 miles was the lines,
00:55:05.530 --> 00:55:08.084
I think that I heard that correctly.
00:55:08.084 --> 00:55:10.450
Right.
Do you for the next,
00:55:10.450 --> 00:55:14.320
for 2021, 2022 and this might be
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:17.160
in your wildfire mitigation
plan, I'm not certain
00:55:17.160 --> 00:55:20.853
but how many more miles of
under grounding do you plan for?
00:55:22.900 --> 00:55:24.300
We will continue
to underground.
00:55:24.300 --> 00:55:26.950
It being a relatively new program,
00:55:26.950 --> 00:55:30.360
I think we're anticipating completing
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:34.700
actually somewhat fewer
miles, about 25 miles in 2021
00:55:34.700 --> 00:55:37.940
as we ramp this up but
80 miles in the next year.
00:55:37.940 --> 00:55:39.430
I think that's approximately
what we're targeting
00:55:39.430 --> 00:55:40.453
in our WMP.
00:55:42.030 --> 00:55:43.480
Okay, thank you.
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:47.830
And on the Medical Baseline customers
00:55:47.830 --> 00:55:52.830
that you provided portable
remote backup generation to,
00:55:53.890 --> 00:55:55.910
have you completed the full list
00:55:55.910 --> 00:56:00.910
that I know you all have
testified before us on before?
00:56:01.540 --> 00:56:04.330
Have you completed the full list
00:56:04.330 --> 00:56:07.250
of Medical Baseline
customers that have asked for
00:56:07.250 --> 00:56:11.223
or would like to have some
kind of backup for their home?
00:56:13.010 --> 00:56:15.470
I appreciate the
question Commissioner.
00:56:15.470 --> 00:56:19.150
I'll let John speak to the
details, but I will tell you,
00:56:19.150 --> 00:56:21.600
we did offer a generator.
00:56:21.600 --> 00:56:23.952
Many of our customers
actually don't take it
00:56:23.952 --> 00:56:26.860
because they already had
alternate facilities aligned.
00:56:26.860 --> 00:56:29.760
So there's a range of approaches
that may be appropriate
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:31.040
but maybe I'll let John touch
00:56:31.040 --> 00:56:34.650
on your more detailed questions
with regard to completeness.
00:56:34.650 --> 00:56:36.120
Okay, thank you.
00:56:36.120 --> 00:56:39.150
I'll turn the mic over to
others for any questions
00:56:39.150 --> 00:56:41.820
that you might have of Bruce.
00:56:41.820 --> 00:56:42.850
Yes, Mr. Rechtschaffen.
00:56:42.850 --> 00:56:45.740
If I could enter, just
on that one, when John,
00:56:45.740 --> 00:56:48.660
when you answer, I heard
Bruce and just to follow up
00:56:48.660 --> 00:56:50.650
on what President Batjer said,
00:56:50.650 --> 00:56:51.680
I thought I heard you say
00:56:51.680 --> 00:56:56.397
that you provided a renewable generator,
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:01.850
a backup generator to all
customers who were affected
00:57:01.850 --> 00:57:03.870
by PSPS events
00:57:03.870 --> 00:57:06.723
and then you were
subsidizing an additional 1200.
00:57:06.723 --> 00:57:08.013
Is that correct?
00:57:09.690 --> 00:57:11.078
Yes, that is correct.
00:57:11.078 --> 00:57:13.070
We offered renewable generation
00:57:13.070 --> 00:57:15.840
to all the Medical Baseline affected.
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:18.210
Not all of them accepted it
because I think they already had
00:57:18.210 --> 00:57:22.040
potentially other backup means but yes,
00:57:22.040 --> 00:57:27.040
and 1200 generators were
subsidized among the HFTD.
00:57:27.290 --> 00:57:31.760
I don't think that 1200 includes
situations where we have,
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:34.100
for example, outstanding rebates now.
00:57:34.100 --> 00:57:35.350
So we're aware
00:57:35.350 --> 00:57:38.480
of how many customers
have downloaded the document
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:39.650
that's necessary.
00:57:39.650 --> 00:57:42.550
Some of those may still be
pending in terms of processing.
00:57:43.602 --> 00:57:46.730
Is this a rolling list?
00:57:46.730 --> 00:57:51.550
In other words, you had
five events in this last year.
00:57:51.550 --> 00:57:56.070
Do you expand the list of
everyone you're outreaching to
00:57:56.070 --> 00:57:59.530
to include that broader set of
customers who were affected
00:57:59.530 --> 00:58:00.623
in 2020?
00:58:02.700 --> 00:58:04.433
Am I clear about that question?
00:58:06.720 --> 00:58:07.660
You are clear.
00:58:07.660 --> 00:58:09.700
I'll let John speak to
it in a little bit of detail,
00:58:09.700 --> 00:58:11.040
but I think it's probably fair
00:58:11.040 --> 00:58:16.040
to say we also revisit the
design of these programs
00:58:16.050 --> 00:58:17.770
as we move forward
to help ensure they are
00:58:17.770 --> 00:58:19.970
as effective as possible.
00:58:19.970 --> 00:58:21.570
It may not necessarily mean that
00:58:22.980 --> 00:58:24.750
that's the perfect approach.
00:58:24.750 --> 00:58:26.680
If you've ever been
affected, you receive an offer
00:58:26.680 --> 00:58:29.080
but it's certainly a place to start.
00:58:29.080 --> 00:58:32.520
I would just say and
then I'll move on is
00:58:32.520 --> 00:58:37.150
it's worth responding or
outreaching multiple times,
00:58:37.150 --> 00:58:40.600
even if a customer might
not pick up on the offer
00:58:40.600 --> 00:58:43.350
in one year before continuing to make
00:58:43.350 --> 00:58:44.933
that offer available going forward
00:58:44.933 --> 00:58:47.180
because they may be
in a different situation
00:58:47.180 --> 00:58:48.190
in the next year.
00:58:48.190 --> 00:58:50.631
Sure, we completely agree.
00:58:50.631 --> 00:58:51.464
We agree.
00:58:54.930 --> 00:58:56.580
Speak up if you haven't.
With that perhaps I'll.
00:58:56.580 --> 00:58:59.913
If the dais has any
other questions of Bruce?
00:59:02.910 --> 00:59:04.110
Okay
Oh.
00:59:04.110 --> 00:59:06.580
I just have one quick
question going back.
00:59:06.580 --> 00:59:09.670
Also, if you can touch
on tribal consultation
00:59:09.670 --> 00:59:12.490
as well as how you address customers
00:59:12.490 --> 00:59:14.930
that may need electricity
for pumping water,
00:59:14.930 --> 00:59:15.980
if they use wells,
00:59:15.980 --> 00:59:18.530
whether they were
provided backup generation
00:59:18.530 --> 00:59:22.860
or how you were able to
coordinate with those customers
00:59:22.860 --> 00:59:26.386
that again, needed
electricity to pump water.
00:59:26.386 --> 00:59:29.480
Of course, we'll
speak to that as we go
00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:30.880
through John's presentation.
00:59:32.910 --> 00:59:34.790
Okay, good.
00:59:34.790 --> 00:59:37.563
Well with that, let's move
on to John's presentation.
00:59:39.560 --> 00:59:40.393
Thank you.
All right,
00:59:40.393 --> 00:59:42.220
just wanna do a quick sound check.
00:59:42.220 --> 00:59:44.120
Can people hear me?
00:59:44.120 --> 00:59:45.910
Yes, we can hear you fine.
00:59:45.910 --> 00:59:50.210
Okay, thank you very
much and there we go.
00:59:50.210 --> 00:59:52.730
As Bruce mentioned,
my name is John Jenkins,
00:59:52.730 --> 00:59:55.320
I'm San Diego Gas and
Electric's vice-president
00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:58.490
of electric system operations
and wildfire mitigation
00:59:58.490 --> 01:00:00.330
and we'll go ahead
and jump right in here
01:00:00.330 --> 01:00:01.360
in the essence of time.
01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:03.010
So go to the first slide, please.
01:00:04.050 --> 01:00:07.830
As Bruce mentioned, we
had 11 red flag warning events
01:00:07.830 --> 01:00:11.550
in what was our 2020 fire season,
01:00:11.550 --> 01:00:13.390
even though it extended into 2021.
01:00:13.390 --> 01:00:16.550
There's a lot of unique
things about this,
01:00:16.550 --> 01:00:18.110
one is that the number.
01:00:18.110 --> 01:00:19.640
We typically average around three
01:00:19.640 --> 01:00:22.490
to four red flag warning
events in a season.
01:00:22.490 --> 01:00:24.900
So this was obviously
a much larger number
01:00:24.900 --> 01:00:26.620
than we're used to.
01:00:26.620 --> 01:00:29.570
In addition to that, the
first couple of events started
01:00:29.570 --> 01:00:32.262
in September and then
finished up with a couple
01:00:32.262 --> 01:00:34.700
of events in mid January.
01:00:34.700 --> 01:00:37.250
This is a longer period
than we're used to as well.
01:00:37.250 --> 01:00:40.910
We're traditionally late
October, early November
01:00:40.910 --> 01:00:42.553
for red flag warning events.
01:00:43.660 --> 01:00:46.640
The wildfires in 2003 were in October.
01:00:46.640 --> 01:00:49.470
The wildfires in 2007 were October.
01:00:49.470 --> 01:00:54.470
Our largest PSPS event up to
2020 was October 31st of 2019.
01:00:54.970 --> 01:00:57.770
So it is odd for us to
have events in September
01:00:57.770 --> 01:00:58.713
through January.
01:00:59.650 --> 01:01:01.480
One more unique thing
and it'll be the focus
01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:03.190
for the rest of the discussion
01:01:03.190 --> 01:01:06.120
on this slide is the December 2nd
01:01:06.120 --> 01:01:08.700
through 4th event ended
up being our largest event
01:01:08.700 --> 01:01:10.320
by far that we've ever had
01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:15.340
and SDG&E hasn't changed
its decision-making parameters
01:01:15.340 --> 01:01:17.600
or expanded the scope of PSPS.
01:01:17.600 --> 01:01:21.430
It's simply due to the
magnitude of the event and going
01:01:21.430 --> 01:01:24.540
through some of the
statistics related to this event.
01:01:24.540 --> 01:01:27.130
If you look at, we have
220 weather stations
01:01:27.130 --> 01:01:28.690
in our service territory in the,
01:01:28.690 --> 01:01:31.960
most in the high fire
threat district, obviously.
01:01:31.960 --> 01:01:34.620
If you look at the 20 weather stations
01:01:34.620 --> 01:01:36.050
that saw the highest gust,
01:01:36.050 --> 01:01:39.070
if you take the average
of the gusts that were seen
01:01:39.070 --> 01:01:39.903
at those weather stations,
01:01:39.903 --> 01:01:42.360
the average was 71 miles per hour.
01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:43.960
This is an extremely strong event.
01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:46.340
We had 60 mile an hour winds at Del Mar
01:01:46.340 --> 01:01:47.890
for those of you
familiar with San Diego,
01:01:47.890 --> 01:01:49.490
just to put that in perspective.
01:01:50.710 --> 01:01:54.250
Of our 220 weather
stations, 126, so over half
01:01:54.250 --> 01:01:57.400
of them experienced their
99th percentile wind speed,
01:01:57.400 --> 01:02:00.000
meaning they only see that
wind speed 1% of the time
01:02:00.940 --> 01:02:03.220
and then probably this is
the most impressive statistic
01:02:03.220 --> 01:02:05.050
that a lot of these weather
stations have been around
01:02:05.050 --> 01:02:07.800
for the better part of
a decade, 43 of them.
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:12.800
So 20% saw their records
broke on that particular wind event
01:02:13.180 --> 01:02:16.130
So very, very strong
wind event with peaks of,
01:02:16.130 --> 01:02:18.430
a peak gust of 94 miles an hour
01:02:18.430 --> 01:02:20.900
at our Sill Hill weather station.
01:02:20.900 --> 01:02:24.040
Prior to the event, we
notified 95,000 customers.
01:02:24.040 --> 01:02:27.530
We ended up de-energizing
73,000 customers.
01:02:27.530 --> 01:02:30.820
We opened up 10
community resource centers
01:02:30.820 --> 01:02:35.820
and provided information and
services to almost 2,700 cars
01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:38.260
in the drive through
format due to the pandemic.
01:02:38.260 --> 01:02:40.720
So extremely proud of
the team with our ability
01:02:40.720 --> 01:02:42.350
to set this up and execute
01:02:42.350 --> 01:02:45.460
on the community resource
centers, given the conditions.
01:02:45.460 --> 01:02:46.410
Next slide, please.
01:02:48.620 --> 01:02:50.820
Some additional statistics
related to the events.
01:02:50.820 --> 01:02:53.040
You can see the peak
winds on the top left.
01:02:53.040 --> 01:02:56.010
So there's obviously
strong winds in every event
01:02:56.010 --> 01:02:59.170
but to give you an idea
of the widespread nature
01:02:59.170 --> 01:03:01.150
of the December 2nd through 4th event,
01:03:01.150 --> 01:03:03.420
going over one graph to the right there.
01:03:03.420 --> 01:03:06.957
73,000 customers ended
up being de-energized
01:03:06.957 --> 01:03:11.957
and you can see the other
four events were 49, 395.
01:03:12.343 --> 01:03:16.060
15.3 was our kind of our
typical strong event in the past
01:03:16.060 --> 01:03:18.580
that was more of a event
representative of what's happened
01:03:18.580 --> 01:03:22.620
in years past but we did
find 14 things that needed
01:03:22.620 --> 01:03:24.470
to be corrected or repaired prior
01:03:24.470 --> 01:03:26.600
to safely re energizing the circuits
01:03:26.600 --> 01:03:29.137
on that December 2nd through 4th event
01:03:29.137 --> 01:03:31.680
and a handful of other issues
01:03:31.680 --> 01:03:34.823
in the other two events in
the later part of December.
01:03:36.700 --> 01:03:38.390
The average outage duration,
01:03:38.390 --> 01:03:42.440
SDG&E really makes these
decisions to de-energize customers
01:03:42.440 --> 01:03:45.810
on a segment by segment basis.
01:03:45.810 --> 01:03:47.770
So looking at the top graph up there,
01:03:47.770 --> 01:03:51.640
took 80 segments to
de-energize the 73,000 customers.
01:03:51.640 --> 01:03:53.700
So around 900 customers per segment,
01:03:53.700 --> 01:03:55.450
so we look at each individual segment.
01:03:55.450 --> 01:03:57.340
We look at the wind speeds.
01:03:57.340 --> 01:04:00.080
We take observer reports,
any other information
01:04:00.080 --> 01:04:03.000
that we have related to
that area to make a decision
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:06.870
so we can really take customers
off at the appropriate time
01:04:06.870 --> 01:04:10.060
to mitigate the risk and keep them out
01:04:10.060 --> 01:04:11.440
as little time as possible.
01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:15.530
And then we use the same
sort of methodology with looking
01:04:15.530 --> 01:04:17.550
in the segment by
segment by segment basis
01:04:17.550 --> 01:04:19.670
to reenergize the customers.
01:04:19.670 --> 01:04:21.680
So this kept the
average outage duration,
01:04:21.680 --> 01:04:23.150
even though it was a three-day event,
01:04:23.150 --> 01:04:28.150
the average customer was out
34 hours on the largest event.
01:04:28.410 --> 01:04:31.650
Our typical events in the past
have been around 24 hours
01:04:31.650 --> 01:04:32.923
for larger events.
01:04:34.120 --> 01:04:36.370
And then in our higher
elevations, we have customers
01:04:36.370 --> 01:04:38.040
that will be the first to see the winds
01:04:38.040 --> 01:04:39.590
but there will also be the last
01:04:39.590 --> 01:04:41.380
to have the winds leave the area
01:04:41.380 --> 01:04:44.430
and so there's a very small
population of customers
01:04:44.430 --> 01:04:47.380
that end up being the
longest duration outages
01:04:47.380 --> 01:04:50.203
and for that largest event,
it was just over 60 hours.
01:04:51.690 --> 01:04:52.713
Next slide please.
01:04:55.460 --> 01:05:00.090
One more thing that we would
like to show the group here is,
01:05:00.090 --> 01:05:02.590
we are seeing an unfortunate trend.
01:05:02.590 --> 01:05:05.520
These are three of
our typical windy areas.
01:05:05.520 --> 01:05:08.750
So prone to PSPS events.
01:05:08.750 --> 01:05:10.580
They're in the communities
of Valley Center, Alpine
01:05:10.580 --> 01:05:12.220
and Cuyamaca.
01:05:12.220 --> 01:05:15.230
Going back to again, the
weather data that we've had
01:05:15.230 --> 01:05:17.600
for nearly a decade at
these weather stations,
01:05:17.600 --> 01:05:19.950
looking at the number of occurrences
01:05:19.950 --> 01:05:24.705
of high wind events, we are
seeing an increasing trend
01:05:24.705 --> 01:05:28.170
and thus the 11 red flag
warning events in 2020.
01:05:28.170 --> 01:05:30.210
But looking back over time,
01:05:30.210 --> 01:05:33.010
you can see the red lines are
the trend lines for the number
01:05:33.010 --> 01:05:36.010
of occurrences that we're
seeing at some of our windy areas.
01:05:37.260 --> 01:05:38.253
Next slide, please.
01:05:40.100 --> 01:05:42.790
What are we doing to
mitigate the impacts?
01:05:42.790 --> 01:05:45.560
Obviously we've been
doing system hardening
01:05:45.560 --> 01:05:49.090
for the past 10 plus years
with our transmission system
01:05:49.090 --> 01:05:50.920
and distribution system.
01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:55.920
In 2020, we hardened 246
miles of electric transmission
01:05:56.820 --> 01:05:58.163
and distribution lines.
01:06:00.410 --> 01:06:04.300
We also use some of these programs
01:06:04.300 --> 01:06:05.430
to help mitigate the impact
01:06:05.430 --> 01:06:06.730
and I'm gonna go into greater detail
01:06:06.730 --> 01:06:10.183
on the generator programs
and microgrids in just a minute.
01:06:11.263 --> 01:06:13.900
But in 2020, we installed
30 new weather stations.
01:06:13.900 --> 01:06:17.660
Every time we go through a
fire season, we identify areas
01:06:17.660 --> 01:06:21.510
that are covered by one weather
station and we find out that
01:06:21.510 --> 01:06:25.540
it would be beneficial to have
an additional weather station
01:06:25.540 --> 01:06:28.410
or weather stations to
further divide this area
01:06:28.410 --> 01:06:31.590
because there's different
things going on with the climates
01:06:31.590 --> 01:06:34.040
in those areas and this
allows us to make better,
01:06:34.040 --> 01:06:37.700
more refined decisions and
reduce the impact to customers.
01:06:37.700 --> 01:06:39.570
There's sectionalizing
devices associated
01:06:39.570 --> 01:06:40.490
with those weather stations.
01:06:40.490 --> 01:06:42.110
So these two really go hand in hand
01:06:42.110 --> 01:06:44.130
and in 2020, this saved impacts
01:06:44.130 --> 01:06:49.130
to 5,773 customers by
new devices that we installed
01:06:49.180 --> 01:06:50.023
on the system.
01:06:51.170 --> 01:06:53.230
In a similar vein, we find areas
01:06:53.230 --> 01:06:56.570
that we can transfer
portions of those circuits
01:06:56.570 --> 01:06:57.930
to adjacent circuits where
01:06:57.930 --> 01:07:00.560
maybe they aren't seeing
the same weather impacts
01:07:00.560 --> 01:07:04.810
as sort of some upstream
customers are on that same circuit.
01:07:04.810 --> 01:07:07.930
So we identified 156
customers that we were able
01:07:07.930 --> 01:07:12.630
to ship to different areas and
keep them safely with power
01:07:12.630 --> 01:07:14.053
during some of these events.
01:07:15.200 --> 01:07:16.300
The next slide please.
01:07:17.810 --> 01:07:19.600
Hopefully this will cover
some of the questions
01:07:19.600 --> 01:07:22.440
on the generators that were coming up.
01:07:22.440 --> 01:07:25.690
Bruce mentioned that every
Medical Baseline customer
01:07:25.690 --> 01:07:28.370
in 2019 that experienced a PSPS event,
01:07:28.370 --> 01:07:31.193
we offered a portable
generator to in 2020.
01:07:33.090 --> 01:07:37.890
We ended up deploying 1,334
of those battery storage units.
01:07:37.890 --> 01:07:39.620
We did all this by September 1st.
01:07:39.620 --> 01:07:41.380
So we were able to get
them out to the customers
01:07:41.380 --> 01:07:42.583
before they needed them.
01:07:43.490 --> 01:07:46.530
We did have an 85% acceptance rate.
01:07:46.530 --> 01:07:50.150
So very high acceptance
rate for these units.
01:07:50.150 --> 01:07:51.820
The majority of the reasons for people
01:07:51.820 --> 01:07:53.750
that didn't accept them were,
01:07:53.750 --> 01:07:55.170
they already had generation backup
01:07:55.170 --> 01:07:57.160
at their homes and I believe
01:07:57.160 --> 01:07:59.880
it was Commissioner Rechtschaffen
asked a question about,
01:07:59.880 --> 01:08:02.467
we will make sure that they
get offered the units again,
01:08:02.467 --> 01:08:05.580
if they turned us down
the first go around.
01:08:05.580 --> 01:08:07.550
We're planning to increase this
01:08:07.550 --> 01:08:12.550
to over 2000 deployments in 2021.
01:08:12.590 --> 01:08:15.610
This should cover every
Medical Baseline customer.
01:08:15.610 --> 01:08:17.670
Obviously we had an
increased number this year.
01:08:17.670 --> 01:08:19.620
This should cover every
Medical Baseline customer
01:08:19.620 --> 01:08:22.780
that had an outage in 2019 or 2020.
01:08:25.120 --> 01:08:28.010
Bruce also mentioned we had
a generator assistance program,
01:08:28.010 --> 01:08:29.820
which is really a rebate program
01:08:29.820 --> 01:08:33.370
where qualifying HTFD customers get
01:08:33.370 --> 01:08:35.980
to purchase a small portable generator
01:08:35.980 --> 01:08:40.810
where SDG&E will rebate
50% of the cost of that.
01:08:40.810 --> 01:08:42.950
If you're a qualifying
low-income customer,
01:08:42.950 --> 01:08:45.180
it's a 75% rebate.
01:08:45.180 --> 01:08:47.530
Which ends up being
about $150 out of pocket.
01:08:47.530 --> 01:08:49.150
So it's a very good deal
01:08:49.150 --> 01:08:52.250
to provide a small portable
generator to customers
01:08:52.250 --> 01:08:53.100
that may need it.
01:08:54.468 --> 01:08:56.730
What we have here pictured
is our whole home generator.
01:08:56.730 --> 01:08:58.870
We have certain customers that just
01:08:58.870 --> 01:09:03.680
with the cost effectiveness
of doing hardening,
01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:07.290
we have certain pockets
where we have 10 miles
01:09:07.290 --> 01:09:09.680
of distribution line that
would need to be hardened
01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:13.400
to help reduce the impacts
to a very small number
01:09:13.400 --> 01:09:15.350
of customers, let's just say it's 10.
01:09:15.350 --> 01:09:17.200
It's actually more cost
cost-effective solution
01:09:17.200 --> 01:09:20.600
to provide them with backup
generation to their home
01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:22.150
to mitigate the impacts as opposed
01:09:22.150 --> 01:09:24.003
to hardening the entire line.
01:09:25.551 --> 01:09:28.530
So that was a very
successful program in 2020.
01:09:28.530 --> 01:09:30.100
And then our five microgrids.
01:09:30.100 --> 01:09:33.530
The number on the
previous slide was 348.
01:09:33.530 --> 01:09:35.770
I always have to elaborate,
01:09:35.770 --> 01:09:38.020
it's not the number of
customers with the microgrids,
01:09:38.020 --> 01:09:40.730
it's the types of
customers that they are.
01:09:40.730 --> 01:09:42.500
The majority of these locations are sort
01:09:42.500 --> 01:09:44.420
of the community
town centers, if you will
01:09:44.420 --> 01:09:47.230
and so they provide
vital goods and services
01:09:47.230 --> 01:09:49.630
to the residents in the
entire surrounding area.
01:09:50.630 --> 01:09:54.190
Things like schools,
urgent cares, grocery stores,
01:09:54.190 --> 01:09:56.933
gas stations, some of those
essential goods and services
01:09:56.933 --> 01:10:00.530
that people need, keeps
those areas with power
01:10:00.530 --> 01:10:01.410
during these events.
01:10:01.410 --> 01:10:05.670
And so we had five
microgrids operating in 2021.
01:10:05.670 --> 01:10:06.629
I mean, sorry, in 2020.
01:10:06.629 --> 01:10:08.591
(indistinct) just for a second.
01:10:08.591 --> 01:10:10.420
This is Marybel.
01:10:10.420 --> 01:10:12.380
Of those five microgrids.
01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:18.263
There backup generation is currently,
01:10:19.930 --> 01:10:24.250
I'm assuming natural
gas but it your note says
01:10:24.250 --> 01:10:26.493
that renewable is an option for 2021.
01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:31.410
What type of renewable are
you offering or hoping to install
01:10:31.410 --> 01:10:33.280
and where are you on that?
01:10:35.080 --> 01:10:36.800
Great question.
01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:38.980
It's a combination of the five sites,
01:10:38.980 --> 01:10:41.890
energy storage or energy
storage in conjunction
01:10:41.890 --> 01:10:44.023
with PV panels.
01:10:45.137 --> 01:10:46.470
And there's a couple of different types
01:10:46.470 --> 01:10:47.303
of energy storage too.
01:10:47.303 --> 01:10:48.720
We have traditional lithium-ion.
01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:52.603
We also have a lithium, or I'm sorry,
01:10:53.870 --> 01:10:57.800
a flow battery as another
technology that we're exploring.
01:10:57.800 --> 01:11:01.020
Just the reasons that
they weren't ready for 2020
01:11:01.020 --> 01:11:02.900
with the renewable option.
01:11:02.900 --> 01:11:05.460
There were a lot of supply
chain issues due to COVID
01:11:05.460 --> 01:11:10.143
in the first half of 2020
and so they were energized
01:11:11.230 --> 01:11:13.290
with fossil fuel generation
but we're getting all
01:11:13.290 --> 01:11:18.290
of the infrastructure
installed that I just mentioned
01:11:18.380 --> 01:11:21.513
to have them renewable
for fire season in 2021.
01:11:22.640 --> 01:11:24.513
Hopefully that answered your question.
01:11:25.490 --> 01:11:27.340
Yes, it did, thank you.
01:11:27.340 --> 01:11:29.430
Oh, you're very welcome.
01:11:29.430 --> 01:11:32.113
So, I think we can go
ahead two slides here.
01:11:35.070 --> 01:11:37.080
We're continuing to leverage technology.
01:11:37.080 --> 01:11:38.350
Bruce alluded to it a little bit
01:11:38.350 --> 01:11:41.490
but when we first installed
our weather stations
01:11:41.490 --> 01:11:45.510
over a decade ago, it was great for us
01:11:45.510 --> 01:11:48.770
to have the largest wind gusts seen
01:11:48.770 --> 01:11:50.043
in every 10 minute
interval and allowed us
01:11:50.043 --> 01:11:53.870
to make great decisions but
what we were finding out is,
01:11:53.870 --> 01:11:56.000
there's a lot that can
happen in 10 minutes
01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:58.790
and so we may get a wind gust recorded
01:11:58.790 --> 01:12:01.910
in a 10 minute interval
that said 60 miles an hour,
01:12:01.910 --> 01:12:05.120
that would lead us to make a
decision to reduce the risk for
01:12:05.120 --> 01:12:08.090
that area and possibly
de-energize the infrastructure
01:12:08.090 --> 01:12:11.150
but what we're finding out
is with 30 second intervals,
01:12:11.150 --> 01:12:14.040
we do have areas that we'll see one gust
01:12:14.040 --> 01:12:16.750
in a 10-minute period
that was, let's say,
01:12:16.750 --> 01:12:19.103
55 miles per hour but
then the rest of the winds
01:12:19.103 --> 01:12:22.350
in that 10 minute interval
were well below 40.
01:12:22.350 --> 01:12:25.186
So it causes us to
make different decisions.
01:12:25.186 --> 01:12:27.460
In a lot of cases, keep
customers energized
01:12:27.460 --> 01:12:29.582
during these conditions.
01:12:29.582 --> 01:12:31.890
So over the last two years,
01:12:31.890 --> 01:12:34.350
every weather station
now has the ability
01:12:34.350 --> 01:12:38.340
for us to obtain 30
second weather reads.
01:12:38.340 --> 01:12:40.600
We've had our higher potential index
01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:42.453
in play for a long time,
01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:47.840
but this also allows us to keep,
reduce the impacts of PSPS
01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:49.347
and keep customers
energized because if you look
01:12:49.347 --> 01:12:53.180
at our red flag warning area,
it's a very broad wide area.
01:12:53.180 --> 01:12:57.130
Our FPI is broken down
into smaller chunks of area
01:12:57.130 --> 01:12:59.500
within our service territory
and it's much more detailed.
01:12:59.500 --> 01:13:01.670
It takes into account
live fuel moisture,
01:13:01.670 --> 01:13:04.170
dead fuel moisture, relative humidity,
01:13:04.170 --> 01:13:08.590
the greenness of the grasses
in addition to wind speeds.
01:13:08.590 --> 01:13:11.290
And really that's how we were able to,
01:13:11.290 --> 01:13:13.240
I'm gonna say only, we don't
wanna minimize the impact
01:13:13.240 --> 01:13:16.870
of PSPS but we only used
Public Safety Power Shutoff
01:13:16.870 --> 01:13:20.770
in the five of the 11 red
flag warning events because
01:13:20.770 --> 01:13:24.360
in many of those our fire
potential index was elevated
01:13:24.360 --> 01:13:26.700
but not extreme and therefore causes us
01:13:26.700 --> 01:13:30.390
to make different
decisions in those cases.
01:13:30.390 --> 01:13:32.990
We'll go ahead and move
on to the next slide please.
01:13:34.634 --> 01:13:37.360
And so what does this
mean in terms of numbers?
01:13:37.360 --> 01:13:38.680
Again, the December 2nd
01:13:38.680 --> 01:13:42.080
through 4th event was a
very unique event for us.
01:13:42.080 --> 01:13:45.960
All of the generator programs,
microgrids, under grounding,
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:49.590
those sorts of things led to a
reduction of 7,332 customer
01:13:49.590 --> 01:13:51.610
but obviously it was a very large event
01:13:52.540 --> 01:13:56.010
and with that sort of
impact and strength
01:13:56.010 --> 01:13:58.670
of the event, you end up not being able
01:13:58.670 --> 01:14:00.860
to leverage your situational
awareness tools as much.
01:14:00.860 --> 01:14:04.240
It's just so windy and conditions
are so bad everywhere.
01:14:04.240 --> 01:14:06.650
FPI was an extreme everywhere.
01:14:06.650 --> 01:14:09.060
We're not using 30 second
data as much because
01:14:09.060 --> 01:14:12.850
it's well beyond the thresholds
of what we consider safe
01:14:12.850 --> 01:14:14.883
to keep energized.
But if you look at more
01:14:14.883 --> 01:14:18.790
of our traditional Public
Safety Power Shutoff events,
01:14:18.790 --> 01:14:21.840
we'll use the December 7th
through 9th example here,
01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:25.050
we de-energized 15,528 customers,
01:14:25.050 --> 01:14:27.600
but had we not had
our fire potential index
01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:31.450
or the ability to get 30
second wind gusts reads,
01:14:31.450 --> 01:14:35.310
there would've been an
additional 22,860 customers
01:14:35.310 --> 01:14:37.320
that would have been de-energized.
01:14:37.320 --> 01:14:40.770
So just wanted to show
how our tools are utilized
01:14:40.770 --> 01:14:44.055
in different scenarios
here with different events.
01:14:44.055 --> 01:14:46.755
If we can go on and move
on to the next slide, please.
01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:52.830
We obviously can mitigate
the impacts of customers
01:14:52.830 --> 01:14:55.030
with keeping their lights
on which we've talked about.
01:14:55.030 --> 01:14:56.380
We can mitigate the impacts by
01:14:56.380 --> 01:14:58.660
at least providing them facilities
01:14:58.660 --> 01:15:01.087
that provide crucial goods and
services such as the example
01:15:01.087 --> 01:15:02.880
of the microgrids.
01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:05.290
Another way for us to
mitigate the impact is really
01:15:05.290 --> 01:15:09.693
to communicate and collaborate
with our customers directly,
01:15:10.860 --> 01:15:15.860
our public safety
partners and our access
01:15:16.010 --> 01:15:18.630
and functional needs
community-based organizations
01:15:18.630 --> 01:15:21.020
to make sure people are
getting the information they need
01:15:21.020 --> 01:15:23.490
to help navigate these events safely.
01:15:23.490 --> 01:15:26.430
Bruce alluded to some of our
new technology that we're using
01:15:26.430 --> 01:15:30.780
with our PSPS mobile app.
01:15:30.780 --> 01:15:32.970
Obviously people are
getting phone calls, texts,
01:15:32.970 --> 01:15:35.870
emails in eight languages
which is being expanded
01:15:35.870 --> 01:15:38.730
to 22 languages in 2021.
01:15:38.730 --> 01:15:40.660
The roadside signage.
01:15:40.660 --> 01:15:44.650
Continuing to work with
our tribal communities
01:15:44.650 --> 01:15:46.960
and our first responders.
01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:50.000
We do this the entire off
season and it is not just
01:15:51.750 --> 01:15:53.670
during these events,
but obviously we do a lot
01:15:53.670 --> 01:15:56.430
of communication
during the events as well.
01:15:56.430 --> 01:15:58.490
Over the past year and a
half we've really expanded
01:15:58.490 --> 01:16:01.670
our access and functional
need network in a partnership
01:16:01.670 --> 01:16:05.070
with 2-1-1 San Diego
and 2-1-1 Orange County.
01:16:05.070 --> 01:16:06.560
This past fire season we were able
01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:10.150
to reach over 700
community-based organizations
01:16:10.150 --> 01:16:14.320
through this network and then also in
01:16:14.320 --> 01:16:16.540
with our communication
with our public safety partners
01:16:16.540 --> 01:16:19.710
over 2000 plus touch points, every event
01:16:19.710 --> 01:16:21.660
and this is some feedback
we get from the outreach
01:16:21.660 --> 01:16:23.870
with our public safety partners.
01:16:23.870 --> 01:16:25.704
88% of the people
01:16:25.704 --> 01:16:28.260
that are receiving these
notifications feel that
01:16:28.260 --> 01:16:29.620
it is either good or great.
01:16:29.620 --> 01:16:33.720
So feel really good about
the work that we're doing with
01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:36.180
communication and
collaboration with customers,
01:16:36.180 --> 01:16:38.050
public safety partners,
01:16:38.050 --> 01:16:40.303
access and functional
needs organizations.
01:16:41.360 --> 01:16:42.510
The next slide, please.
01:16:45.200 --> 01:16:46.450
Just in the essence of time,
01:16:46.450 --> 01:16:47.723
we'll just quickly gloss over this one
01:16:47.723 --> 01:16:51.410
but the here's some of
the information and services
01:16:51.410 --> 01:16:54.360
that we provide for our access
and functional needs groups.
01:16:55.560 --> 01:16:56.907
Next slide please.
01:16:58.590 --> 01:17:02.390
And then things that we're
doing to continue this great work
01:17:02.390 --> 01:17:05.440
in 2021, we've already
identified 10 locations
01:17:05.440 --> 01:17:07.160
where we're gonna
have new weather stations
01:17:07.160 --> 01:17:09.830
and associated sectionalizing
devices that is going
01:17:09.830 --> 01:17:14.700
to possibly help 5,000
customers with impacts
01:17:14.700 --> 01:17:17.110
from Public Safety Power Shutoff.
01:17:17.110 --> 01:17:20.290
The different generator
programs that I described
01:17:20.290 --> 01:17:22.510
within the presentation here,
01:17:22.510 --> 01:17:26.320
close to 2,500 people will
be afforded the opportunity
01:17:26.320 --> 01:17:31.040
to get backup generation in
some sort of form or fashion.
01:17:31.040 --> 01:17:34.700
We're gonna have six
microgrids operating in 2021
01:17:34.700 --> 01:17:37.120
and under grounding
at nine different locations
01:17:37.120 --> 01:17:40.060
that are going to help
over 1100 customers
01:17:40.060 --> 01:17:42.980
for a total of 11,000
customers just with the work
01:17:42.980 --> 01:17:44.470
that we're doing this year.
01:17:44.470 --> 01:17:46.540
And this is in addition to,
01:17:46.540 --> 01:17:49.690
we're gonna be hardening well
over 200 miles of transmission
01:17:49.690 --> 01:17:51.130
and distribution infrastructure again,
01:17:51.130 --> 01:17:55.500
and under grounding 25 miles
this year, 80 miles next year
01:17:55.500 --> 01:17:58.500
to permanently help
mitigate the risk as well
01:17:58.500 --> 01:18:00.833
as mitigate the effects of PSPS.
01:18:02.040 --> 01:18:03.747
By now, I gave you
guys a lot of information
01:18:03.747 --> 01:18:07.560
and I'll gladly answer any
questions that you have now.
01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:10.140
Okay, just a
reminder to everyone.
01:18:10.140 --> 01:18:12.900
We're running about 10 minutes behind
01:18:12.900 --> 01:18:15.260
and we have one more
presentation before we move
01:18:15.260 --> 01:18:16.850
to public comment.
01:18:16.850 --> 01:18:20.470
So just be mindful of that
as you ask your questions.
01:18:20.470 --> 01:18:22.720
I'll turn the mic over
to others on the dais.
01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:28.693
President Batjer.
Yes.
01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:30.753
Thank you.
01:18:30.753 --> 01:18:34.283
Thank you Mr. Jenkins for
the excellent presentation.
01:18:36.760 --> 01:18:38.700
Two questions quickly here.
01:18:38.700 --> 01:18:42.380
One is, I don't know if we
can go back to slide seven
01:18:42.380 --> 01:18:44.990
and if you can talk about all the,
01:18:44.990 --> 01:18:48.900
obviously wind being major
factor in triggering PSPS
01:18:48.900 --> 01:18:50.430
but can you talk about (indistinct)
01:18:50.430 --> 01:18:55.430
and how you use your
vegetation management as a factor
01:18:55.990 --> 01:18:59.750
for locational decisions.
01:18:59.750 --> 01:19:00.823
Are you using,
01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:05.923
well, can you talk about
how you use that if at all?
01:19:07.610 --> 01:19:08.593
Absolutely.
01:19:09.580 --> 01:19:11.710
I believe it was two
years ago we started
01:19:11.710 --> 01:19:14.580
to develop a vegetation
risk index and what this is,
01:19:14.580 --> 01:19:18.820
it takes into account the
type of tree it is, the species,
01:19:18.820 --> 01:19:21.580
the growth rate, the
proximity (indistinct)
01:19:21.580 --> 01:19:24.210
with sort of clearances do
we have, in this particular area
01:19:24.210 --> 01:19:26.470
for this particular
small segment of circuit.
01:19:26.470 --> 01:19:28.760
What historical outages have we seen
01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:30.730
in this area related to vegetation?
01:19:30.730 --> 01:19:31.770
Is there something about this area
01:19:31.770 --> 01:19:34.520
that just causes more
contacts than others?
01:19:34.520 --> 01:19:35.810
And we took all this data
01:19:35.810 --> 01:19:39.520
and it informs a vegetation
risk index and it kind of boils
01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:42.990
it down into low, medium
and high risk areas.
01:19:42.990 --> 01:19:46.560
And so if an area has a
high vegetation risk index,
01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:49.600
it's gonna have a lower
threshold for the decision
01:19:49.600 --> 01:19:52.183
that we would make to
de-energize because of that.
01:19:53.160 --> 01:19:56.600
Also we look at the 95th and
99th percentile wind speeds.
01:19:56.600 --> 01:19:59.090
We have a lot of data
that shows once you get
01:19:59.090 --> 01:20:01.130
to a 95th percentile
wind speed in an area.
01:20:01.130 --> 01:20:03.970
So it doesn't see that
wind a whole lot of the time,
01:20:03.970 --> 01:20:08.970
the occurrences of vegetation
contact dramatically goes up.
01:20:09.330 --> 01:20:12.263
So I'm hoping that's
answering the question for you.
01:20:13.550 --> 01:20:14.383
Yes, thank you.
01:20:14.383 --> 01:20:17.480
And just understanding that
a little deeper would be nice
01:20:17.480 --> 01:20:18.780
to receive as a followup because
01:20:18.780 --> 01:20:23.240
it sounds like you're doing
more than just soil moisture.
01:20:23.240 --> 01:20:25.020
You're actually looking
at where you're at
01:20:25.020 --> 01:20:30.020
with your management and
the historical incidents get driven
01:20:30.280 --> 01:20:34.272
by vegetation, if I
capture that back correctly.
01:20:34.272 --> 01:20:36.550
You're correct.
Okay
01:20:36.550 --> 01:20:39.640
And then just one quick question
on the fixed backup power.
01:20:39.640 --> 01:20:42.290
Are you in coordination with your water
01:20:42.290 --> 01:20:44.630
and telecommunication
providers on those?
01:20:44.630 --> 01:20:46.941
Do they receive any sort of,
01:20:46.941 --> 01:20:49.813
or are they any of the recipients of
01:20:49.813 --> 01:20:51.593
that fixed backup power?
01:20:53.360 --> 01:20:55.670
We will look at those
on an as needed basis,
01:20:55.670 --> 01:20:58.180
but with all the work that
we've done with either,
01:20:58.180 --> 01:21:01.590
whether it's a water authority
or communications providers
01:21:01.590 --> 01:21:05.250
over the last few years,
they've installed backup power
01:21:05.250 --> 01:21:07.820
at their facilities in all
their critical locations
01:21:07.820 --> 01:21:12.820
and we meet with them
after the PSPS season is over
01:21:12.830 --> 01:21:15.270
and talk about lessons learned
and things that we can do
01:21:15.270 --> 01:21:18.010
to help provide them
information and locations.
01:21:18.010 --> 01:21:20.580
And for the last two
years, this is the feedback
01:21:20.580 --> 01:21:21.847
that we've gotten,
that the communication
01:21:21.847 --> 01:21:25.220
for these have not had a
cell tower without power
01:21:25.220 --> 01:21:26.940
because they've had their
own backup generation
01:21:26.940 --> 01:21:29.620
and it's really been the
coordination and communication
01:21:29.620 --> 01:21:31.130
that we've had over the last few years
01:21:31.130 --> 01:21:32.717
that's enabled that to happen.
01:21:34.190 --> 01:21:36.370
Okay, that's good to
hear on the cell towers,
01:21:36.370 --> 01:21:39.410
maybe on some of the
other landline providers
01:21:39.410 --> 01:21:41.410
as well would be good, but that's good.
01:21:41.410 --> 01:21:43.353
Thank you.
Thank you very well.
01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:47.446
Are there any other
questions from the dais
01:21:47.446 --> 01:21:49.779
at this time of Mr. Jenkins?
01:21:50.655 --> 01:21:51.989
President Batjer,
I have a question
01:21:51.989 --> 01:21:54.156
for Mr. Jenkins and Bruce.
01:21:56.460 --> 01:22:00.270
Given what you just articulated
about the changing nature
01:22:00.270 --> 01:22:03.100
of winds that you've
observed and the length
01:22:03.100 --> 01:22:04.950
of the Santa Ana events.
01:22:04.950 --> 01:22:07.190
Do you need to more
fundamentally reorient
01:22:07.190 --> 01:22:09.943
how you're planning
for high fire threat risk?
01:22:12.010 --> 01:22:13.670
That's a great
question and Bruce,
01:22:13.670 --> 01:22:14.503
I don't know if you wanna take that
01:22:14.503 --> 01:22:15.410
or whether you want me to,
01:22:15.410 --> 01:22:17.510
I don't want to jump
in here ahead myself.
01:22:18.730 --> 01:22:19.950
Maybe both of us.
01:22:19.950 --> 01:22:23.610
I guess what I would say Commissioner is
01:22:23.610 --> 01:22:25.563
I think the answer is yes.
01:22:28.280 --> 01:22:30.360
Our risk modeling with regard
01:22:30.360 --> 01:22:32.900
to wildfire does incorporate some level
01:22:32.900 --> 01:22:34.623
of worsening if you will.
01:22:35.960 --> 01:22:39.740
The extension of the
season, it's a little bit,
01:22:39.740 --> 01:22:42.130
it's obviously is a
very imprecise science
01:22:42.130 --> 01:22:44.070
to predict the future
01:22:44.070 --> 01:22:48.130
but what I would tell
you is our approach
01:22:48.130 --> 01:22:52.580
to hardening has really redoubled.
01:22:52.580 --> 01:22:55.380
We are using cover conductor
much more extensively
01:22:55.380 --> 01:22:57.340
than we have in the past.
01:22:57.340 --> 01:22:59.760
We mentioned the
strategic under grounding.
01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:03.390
So I think you're seeing a
shift in our response trying
01:23:03.390 --> 01:23:07.730
to kind of accommodate a
reasonable balance between the cost
01:23:07.730 --> 01:23:11.430
of these improvements
and the benefits involved
01:23:11.430 --> 01:23:14.820
but I think it's, I'm sure
John has more to add,
01:23:14.820 --> 01:23:19.370
but it is a nuanced, it's
more art than science, frankly
01:23:19.370 --> 01:23:20.573
on how far we go here.
01:23:21.901 --> 01:23:23.530
That's a great,
great answer, Bruce.
01:23:23.530 --> 01:23:25.040
And as he just mentioned,
01:23:25.040 --> 01:23:27.990
we are incorporating a certain worsening
01:23:27.990 --> 01:23:31.660
of the risk you will, into
our wildfire risk model
01:23:31.660 --> 01:23:34.270
that informs what mitigation we do
01:23:34.270 --> 01:23:37.930
and prioritizes the mitigation
against each other as well.
01:23:37.930 --> 01:23:40.410
And that's really what has
led, I mean, you're gonna,
01:23:40.410 --> 01:23:43.890
in our 2021 update,
we sort of see a little bit
01:23:43.890 --> 01:23:48.220
of a ramp down of overhead
hardening and a ramp up of
01:23:48.220 --> 01:23:50.550
if you are overhead
hardening with cover conductor
01:23:50.550 --> 01:23:53.950
and then a significant
ramp up in under grounding.
01:23:53.950 --> 01:23:57.090
There's just areas that
are prone to high winds
01:23:57.090 --> 01:23:58.950
that really the only
way to mitigate the risk
01:23:58.950 --> 01:24:01.130
as well as the PSPS impacts is
01:24:01.130 --> 01:24:02.780
to underground the infrastructure.
01:24:02.780 --> 01:24:05.630
So that's really what has
started us down this path
01:24:05.630 --> 01:24:07.973
with our 2021 WMP update here.
01:24:09.460 --> 01:24:10.840
Probably the last
thing I would add is
01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:12.020
that I think it is important.
01:24:12.020 --> 01:24:13.320
I mean, we're obviously talking,
01:24:13.320 --> 01:24:18.320
this whole session is on
PSPS and it is contradictory
01:24:19.220 --> 01:24:23.520
to our fiber to shut off the
power but I would tell you,
01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:26.810
but for these limited areas
where we're underground,
01:24:26.810 --> 01:24:30.810
we do believe that it is
important used properly
01:24:30.810 --> 01:24:34.143
to maintain PSPS as
a safety mitigation tool.
01:24:35.910 --> 01:24:37.520
We certainly hope to reduce its impact.
01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:41.120
We've seen a lot of reduction
when we look specifically
01:24:41.120 --> 01:24:44.120
at a given event and how we
used to manage it in the past
01:24:45.110 --> 01:24:47.980
but I do think it's an
important tool going forward
01:24:47.980 --> 01:24:49.330
for the foreseeable future.
01:24:51.060 --> 01:24:51.893
And just to end it.
01:24:51.893 --> 01:24:55.360
One more comment is, we definitely know
01:24:55.360 --> 01:24:57.980
that there's an impact to
Public Safety Power Shutoff
01:24:57.980 --> 01:25:01.770
to our customers and we
don't take those decisions lightly,
01:25:01.770 --> 01:25:03.610
but in the risk model
that I'm describing too,
01:25:03.610 --> 01:25:06.080
we've also incorporated
the risk of PSPS.
01:25:06.080 --> 01:25:07.860
So it is not a risk-free tool.
01:25:07.860 --> 01:25:10.950
So we use that to
balance out our mitigations
01:25:10.950 --> 01:25:13.410
and help select the appropriate
type of mitigation and help
01:25:13.410 --> 01:25:14.960
to prioritize the work as well.
01:25:17.860 --> 01:25:20.380
President Batjer, I have
a, customer engagement.
01:25:20.380 --> 01:25:23.070
Can I just, excuse me,
Commissioner Shiroma.
01:25:23.070 --> 01:25:24.290
Just one last question.
01:25:24.290 --> 01:25:26.293
Please.
Yes.
01:25:30.050 --> 01:25:31.420
I'm very appreciative
01:25:31.420 --> 01:25:33.770
that the San Diego Gas
and Electric system is
01:25:34.790 --> 01:25:37.940
with the meteorology
stations, with sectionalization.
01:25:37.940 --> 01:25:41.673
The granularity is a real model.
01:25:42.640 --> 01:25:44.540
We heard from Edison's customers
01:25:44.540 --> 01:25:47.520
that they were very frustrated
with the sheer number
01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:51.603
of notifications that they
received and just wondered
01:25:51.603 --> 01:25:54.910
if there's any insights
to how you interact
01:25:54.910 --> 01:25:57.790
with your customers towards
ensuring that you're getting
01:25:57.790 --> 01:26:00.250
in the best information possible
01:26:00.250 --> 01:26:02.697
and whether there are
any lessons learned there
01:26:02.697 --> 01:26:04.463
for others to take a look at.
01:26:07.830 --> 01:26:10.560
Part of our work is that
to get continuously better
01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:13.660
at this and so we go out
and through these webinars
01:26:13.660 --> 01:26:15.330
and community fairs
01:26:15.330 --> 01:26:17.110
that we're all obviously
doing again this year,
01:26:17.110 --> 01:26:19.340
we take back information about ways
01:26:19.340 --> 01:26:22.150
that we could have
improved and communicated
01:26:22.150 --> 01:26:25.600
with our customers better
and I think there was a kind
01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:28.420
of a question there about
the notification process too.
01:26:28.420 --> 01:26:30.010
It is a fine line.
01:26:30.010 --> 01:26:34.071
You don't want to, it's
all based off of a forecast
01:26:34.071 --> 01:26:35.560
and you definitely don't wanna be
01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:39.300
in a situation where a
customer did not get notified
01:26:39.300 --> 01:26:41.680
and we ended up having
to shut off their power.
01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:43.970
And for our large event, for example,
01:26:43.970 --> 01:26:45.987
we notified 95,000 customers
01:26:45.987 --> 01:26:48.100
and ended up shutting off 73,000.
01:26:48.100 --> 01:26:51.330
So we are concerned
about over notification
01:26:51.330 --> 01:26:53.430
and notification fatigue
01:26:53.430 --> 01:26:57.530
but again, we don't wanna
have people not get notified
01:26:57.530 --> 01:26:59.590
and then end up having
their power shut off
01:26:59.590 --> 01:27:00.823
during an event.
01:27:03.925 --> 01:27:04.840
Okay, thank you.
01:27:04.840 --> 01:27:07.010
I'm sorry, we're just short on time.
01:27:07.010 --> 01:27:09.780
I'm sure there's a
number of other questions
01:27:09.780 --> 01:27:11.470
that the dais would like to ask
01:27:11.470 --> 01:27:13.800
but we're gonna have to move on.
01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:17.440
So I really thank you,
Mr. Folkmann and Mr. Jenkins
01:27:17.440 --> 01:27:22.230
for your presentation
and any of our questions
01:27:22.230 --> 01:27:24.700
that were asked that
you feel that you still need
01:27:24.700 --> 01:27:26.340
to provide us more information,
01:27:26.340 --> 01:27:28.760
please do not hesitate to do so.
01:27:28.760 --> 01:27:30.380
Okay, thank you very much.
01:27:30.380 --> 01:27:35.220
And with that, we'll move
on to the PG&E presentation
01:27:35.220 --> 01:27:38.390
and that will be given by
the executive vice president
01:27:38.390 --> 01:27:41.590
of operations and chief
operating officer, Adam Wright.
01:27:41.590 --> 01:27:44.960
And I think Mr. Wright, this
is your first time appearing
01:27:44.960 --> 01:27:48.750
before us.
Yes it is President Batjer
01:27:48.750 --> 01:27:50.480
and Commissioners, thanks for having me.
01:27:50.480 --> 01:27:51.840
Very glad to be here.
01:27:51.840 --> 01:27:53.600
Just one short clarification.
01:27:53.600 --> 01:27:55.050
Sumeet Singh is with me,
01:27:55.050 --> 01:27:56.900
he'll actually walk us
through the presentation
01:27:56.900 --> 01:27:59.471
and some of the specifics from 2020
01:27:59.471 --> 01:28:01.950
and what we're looking at for 2021
01:28:01.950 --> 01:28:03.730
but I do appreciate overall,
01:28:03.730 --> 01:28:07.410
you having the PG&E team
here today to really share
01:28:07.410 --> 01:28:09.990
about our Public Safety
Power Shutoff program
01:28:09.990 --> 01:28:13.700
and the steps we're taking to
get better for our customers.
01:28:13.700 --> 01:28:16.360
But since this is my
first time I would like
01:28:16.360 --> 01:28:20.670
to take just a second to get
some context on why I'm here.
01:28:20.670 --> 01:28:22.230
I've worked my entire career
01:28:22.230 --> 01:28:24.910
for the Berkshire Hathaway
Energy Family companies,
01:28:24.910 --> 01:28:29.600
which is an exceptional
organization and I fully intended
01:28:29.600 --> 01:28:31.497
to retire from that organization
01:28:31.497 --> 01:28:34.150
and I finished my last
post there as president
01:28:34.150 --> 01:28:36.663
and CEO of MidAmerican
Energy Company, Iowa.
01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:40.350
Started when I was an 18
year old engineering student
01:28:40.350 --> 01:28:45.010
and was really looking
forward to settling down in Iowa
01:28:45.010 --> 01:28:47.800
in the Mid-West where
I was born and raised.
01:28:47.800 --> 01:28:49.460
And if you know anything
about the Mid-West,
01:28:49.460 --> 01:28:52.480
it's a mostly insulated
part of the country,
01:28:52.480 --> 01:28:55.390
usually the last in
first out but being a part
01:28:55.390 --> 01:28:59.680
of the industry and being
human really for that matter,
01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:04.680
made it very difficult to miss
the significant challenges
01:29:05.760 --> 01:29:08.687
that California and the
communities here are facing.
01:29:08.687 --> 01:29:13.453
And so despite that distance
between California and Iowa,
01:29:15.010 --> 01:29:17.877
kept a very close eye on
what was taking place here
01:29:17.877 --> 01:29:22.490
and so I got a call from
the PG&E team to join,
01:29:22.490 --> 01:29:25.390
I had a choice to make
and that choice really was,
01:29:25.390 --> 01:29:29.520
do I stay put and continue
to be a valued leader
01:29:29.520 --> 01:29:33.130
and tethered to a very stable,
very predictable business,
01:29:33.130 --> 01:29:37.420
serving very appreciative
customers or do I sort of step up
01:29:37.420 --> 01:29:39.240
and become a needed leader
01:29:39.240 --> 01:29:42.110
to help turn around a
company really struggling
01:29:42.110 --> 01:29:45.310
to serve it's customers
and communities who I saw
01:29:45.310 --> 01:29:46.837
as desperate for
01:29:46.837 --> 01:29:49.640
and very deserving of
a trusted energy partner.
01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:52.550
So very humbled for the
opportunity to be a part
01:29:52.550 --> 01:29:54.570
of this team at a time such as this
01:29:55.440 --> 01:29:58.810
as we continue to shift our
focus to put our customers
01:29:58.810 --> 01:30:00.730
at the center of everything we do.
01:30:00.730 --> 01:30:04.120
And I really mean customers not input
01:30:04.120 --> 01:30:08.400
for billing determinants but
real people with real families
01:30:08.400 --> 01:30:11.220
with real businesses,
with real aspirations
01:30:11.220 --> 01:30:15.030
and who have clearly shared
real concerns about the state
01:30:15.030 --> 01:30:16.650
of things and putting them
01:30:16.650 --> 01:30:20.650
at the center is what we're
truly focused on going forward.
01:30:20.650 --> 01:30:22.920
And that includes the
work that we're focused on
01:30:22.920 --> 01:30:24.890
for preventing and responding
01:30:24.890 --> 01:30:27.733
to California's
increasing wildfire risk.
01:30:28.640 --> 01:30:31.250
And that's really what our
PSPS program is about.
01:30:31.250 --> 01:30:35.640
It's really a last resort
for us to prevent wildfires
01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:36.963
from impacting people.
01:30:38.010 --> 01:30:38.843
We clearly know
01:30:38.843 --> 01:30:43.070
that targeted power shut
off are a critical tool for us
01:30:43.070 --> 01:30:46.660
to keep communities and
customers safe but we also know
01:30:46.660 --> 01:30:50.100
it comes as a burden to
really everyone who is impacted
01:30:50.100 --> 01:30:52.500
by them and it carries
its own safety risks,
01:30:52.500 --> 01:30:55.400
especially for the people
who are most vulnerable
01:30:55.400 --> 01:30:57.050
and that is not lost on us.
01:30:57.050 --> 01:30:59.810
It's also not lost on us
that the wildfire season
01:30:59.810 --> 01:31:02.190
in California is starting earlier,
01:31:02.190 --> 01:31:05.270
it's lasting longer and
it's becoming more severe
01:31:05.270 --> 01:31:06.520
and more intense.
01:31:06.520 --> 01:31:10.260
So everyone here at
PG&E understands the need
01:31:10.260 --> 01:31:15.260
for urgency and transparency
and acting decisively
01:31:15.350 --> 01:31:18.890
as we work hard to improve
the safety of our systems.
01:31:18.890 --> 01:31:23.890
So in my new role, so far,
almost been 60 calendar days
01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:26.510
since taking the post.
01:31:26.510 --> 01:31:30.590
I've done a lot of listening,
listening to our coworkers,
01:31:30.590 --> 01:31:33.760
listening to customers through comments
01:31:33.760 --> 01:31:36.450
that have been captured
through our various feedback loops
01:31:36.450 --> 01:31:40.570
that we have here and it's
very clear that there are things
01:31:40.570 --> 01:31:42.607
that we missed in 2019
01:31:42.607 --> 01:31:45.670
and that 2020 there were
several the lessons learned
01:31:45.670 --> 01:31:48.460
that we can build upon going forward
01:31:48.460 --> 01:31:50.730
but it's also clear we
made meaningful strides
01:31:50.730 --> 01:31:53.150
both operationally and in how we support
01:31:53.150 --> 01:31:55.900
and serve our customers
during PSPS events
01:31:55.900 --> 01:32:00.030
but we do have plenty of
work to do ahead in 2021.
01:32:00.030 --> 01:32:02.210
One of the things that
we're doing to get ahead of
01:32:02.210 --> 01:32:05.000
it this year is that we're
setting up a new organization
01:32:05.000 --> 01:32:08.080
and that organization is
gonna be focused entirely
01:32:08.080 --> 01:32:11.690
on keeping our customers and
community safe from wildfires
01:32:11.690 --> 01:32:14.870
and we're calling it the
wildfire risk organization,
01:32:14.870 --> 01:32:17.020
dedicated to the planning and execution
01:32:17.020 --> 01:32:18.973
of our wildfire safety work.
01:32:19.950 --> 01:32:24.950
Really ensuring that the two
components of our program,
01:32:24.990 --> 01:32:27.910
which is the planning and
execution are fully aligned,
01:32:27.910 --> 01:32:31.000
integrated, which being fully candid
01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:33.000
that's a place we've
faltered in the past
01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:35.720
or our plans haven't
matched the execution
01:32:35.720 --> 01:32:37.210
and this created some gaps
01:32:37.210 --> 01:32:40.160
and so singular focus for this group,
01:32:40.160 --> 01:32:44.250
plan and execute our
wildfire program to a tee
01:32:44.250 --> 01:32:47.120
and then quickly recover and improve
01:32:47.120 --> 01:32:49.447
whenever we have something that's off.
01:32:49.447 --> 01:32:52.510
And so this new
organization and really PG&E
01:32:52.510 --> 01:32:54.300
as you've probably heard
of by now will be managed
01:32:54.300 --> 01:32:56.610
through a new operating paradigm.
01:32:56.610 --> 01:33:00.050
The lean operating system
and lean is really meant
01:33:00.050 --> 01:33:04.490
to break down the silos that
have plagued PG&E in the past
01:33:04.490 --> 01:33:07.410
to give us visibility
into performance daily,
01:33:07.410 --> 01:33:09.900
it's gonna create routines
for problem solving
01:33:09.900 --> 01:33:12.800
and of course directing
when things are off.
01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:15.750
It's a tried and tested and
proven operating system
01:33:15.750 --> 01:33:18.990
to empower really every
employee at every level
01:33:18.990 --> 01:33:22.400
to drive meaningful change
and to make a difference
01:33:22.400 --> 01:33:25.310
and to solve problems
and to own the outcomes
01:33:25.310 --> 01:33:26.750
for our business.
01:33:26.750 --> 01:33:28.900
For me, coming into this organization,
01:33:28.900 --> 01:33:31.030
it's really gonna take the mystery out
01:33:31.030 --> 01:33:34.010
of a matrix organization
and I'm very excited
01:33:34.010 --> 01:33:37.310
to stand up this new wildfire
risk organization operating
01:33:37.310 --> 01:33:40.960
under the lean operating
system and to work relentlessly
01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:42.810
and tirelessly alongside them
01:33:42.810 --> 01:33:45.703
to make sure our energy
system is safer and more resilient
01:33:45.703 --> 01:33:47.270
for our customers.
01:33:47.270 --> 01:33:49.300
So I am here with Sumeet Singh,
01:33:49.300 --> 01:33:52.150
who'll be leading this new
wildfire risk organization.
01:33:52.150 --> 01:33:54.080
He'll talk more about the
improvements we're making
01:33:54.080 --> 01:33:58.600
in 2021 sort of less than
the impact of PSPS events
01:34:00.040 --> 01:34:01.660
on our customers.
01:34:01.660 --> 01:34:02.627
Clearly we're here to listen.
01:34:02.627 --> 01:34:05.380
We can only get better if we take input,
01:34:05.380 --> 01:34:07.523
apply it to our programs
and processes so
01:34:07.523 --> 01:34:09.770
that we can actually serve our customers
01:34:09.770 --> 01:34:12.010
and address the needs
that our Commission has
01:34:12.010 --> 01:34:12.960
from us as well.
01:34:12.960 --> 01:34:16.420
So excited to gather this
feedback and looking forward
01:34:16.420 --> 01:34:19.870
to getting to know you
more, hearing more from you
01:34:19.870 --> 01:34:23.290
and making California all it can be.
01:34:23.290 --> 01:34:25.340
I know there's a ton
of potential at PG&E.
01:34:25.340 --> 01:34:27.610
There's a ton of
opportunity to get better
01:34:27.610 --> 01:34:29.810
for our customers and I
couldn't be more excited
01:34:29.810 --> 01:34:33.140
to be here and to work alongside
the leadership team at PG&E
01:34:33.140 --> 01:34:34.960
So with that, I'll turn
it over to Sumeet
01:34:34.960 --> 01:34:36.923
to provide his comments.
01:34:37.770 --> 01:34:41.300
One quick observation,
before we turn to the Sumeet.
01:34:43.130 --> 01:34:44.433
Mr. Adam, thank you.
01:34:45.290 --> 01:34:47.570
I mean, excusing me Mr. Wright.
01:34:47.570 --> 01:34:48.403
Thank you.
01:34:49.720 --> 01:34:53.840
I'm glad to hear you
say that you realize
01:34:53.840 --> 01:34:57.910
that the plans have not matched
execution always at PG&E.
01:34:57.910 --> 01:35:02.660
Certainly an improvement
from 2019 to 2020
01:35:02.660 --> 01:35:05.023
but as I said, many times to y'all,
01:35:06.410 --> 01:35:09.290
you will be judged by your
outcomes, not your plan.
01:35:09.290 --> 01:35:14.290
So I'm very glad to hear that
realization and understanding.
01:35:14.310 --> 01:35:17.640
So with that Summit, why
don't we go and turn on,
01:35:17.640 --> 01:35:19.900
turn to your presentation?
01:35:19.900 --> 01:35:21.370
I appreciate that
comment President Batjer,
01:35:21.370 --> 01:35:22.203
thank you.
01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:27.900
Great, thank you, Adam
01:35:27.900 --> 01:35:31.140
and good morning
respected President Batjer
01:35:31.140 --> 01:35:32.227
and respected Commissioners.
01:35:32.227 --> 01:35:34.550
Thank you for the opportunity to engage
01:35:34.550 --> 01:35:36.703
in this extremely important forum today.
01:35:37.600 --> 01:35:39.780
My name is Sumeet Singh
and I have the privilege
01:35:39.780 --> 01:35:42.890
of being PG&E's chief risk officer.
01:35:42.890 --> 01:35:45.500
Today, I will be sharing
an update on three items.
01:35:45.500 --> 01:35:46.900
The first is related
01:35:46.900 --> 01:35:50.190
to the 2020 Public Safety
Power Shutoff events.
01:35:50.190 --> 01:35:52.960
The second is the feedback
that we have received
01:35:52.960 --> 01:35:55.230
from our customers and our
communities that we're privileged
01:35:55.230 --> 01:35:58.590
to serve after last year's PSPS events
01:35:58.590 --> 01:36:01.523
and the third is
improvements of PSPS events
01:36:01.523 --> 01:36:04.670
that we're committed
to making for this year
01:36:04.670 --> 01:36:06.940
for our customers and our communities.
01:36:06.940 --> 01:36:08.740
I'm happy to take any
questions that you have
01:36:08.740 --> 01:36:10.730
during this discussion and
we also really look forward
01:36:10.730 --> 01:36:12.460
to your feedback and the feedback
01:36:12.460 --> 01:36:15.470
during the public comments
period on how we can continue
01:36:15.470 --> 01:36:19.118
to improve our performance
during PSPS events.
01:36:19.118 --> 01:36:21.490
So if we go to the next slide, please.
01:36:21.490 --> 01:36:24.710
I will begin by providing
an overview of the events
01:36:24.710 --> 01:36:26.990
from last year and the
improvements we were able
01:36:26.990 --> 01:36:29.070
to make over 2019.
01:36:29.070 --> 01:36:31.140
We know how difficult
it is for our customers
01:36:31.140 --> 01:36:34.310
to be without power and
do not take the decision
01:36:34.310 --> 01:36:35.890
to de-energize lightly.
01:36:35.890 --> 01:36:39.410
We only use PSPS as the
last resort for public safety
01:36:39.410 --> 01:36:42.060
to prevent significant wildfires.
01:36:42.060 --> 01:36:45.310
We know that we did
not meet the expectations
01:36:45.310 --> 01:36:48.830
of our customers and our
communities during 2019
01:36:48.830 --> 01:36:49.923
and we own that.
01:36:50.930 --> 01:36:54.500
As a result last year, we
had an unwavering focus
01:36:54.500 --> 01:36:57.150
on providing more
support for our customers
01:36:57.150 --> 01:37:00.300
and our communities,
including reducing the size
01:37:00.300 --> 01:37:03.090
and length of PSPS events.
01:37:03.090 --> 01:37:06.510
We had six events in
2020 and one in January,
01:37:06.510 --> 01:37:10.210
which is the first of
it's kind of this year.
01:37:10.210 --> 01:37:15.210
Last year, our events
impacted 55% fewer customers
01:37:17.060 --> 01:37:22.060
or nearly 800,000 less
customers in total for the six events
01:37:22.400 --> 01:37:25.313
as compared to similar
weather events in 2019.
01:37:26.440 --> 01:37:30.420
We had a multi-pronged
approach on focusing
01:37:30.420 --> 01:37:33.700
to make the PSPS events smaller.
01:37:33.700 --> 01:37:37.360
The largest driver of this
reduction was improved
01:37:37.360 --> 01:37:41.143
and more granular weather
forecasting capabilities.
01:37:42.010 --> 01:37:44.970
We also had a better
transmission line scoping process.
01:37:44.970 --> 01:37:47.730
We enabled Islanding capabilities
01:37:47.730 --> 01:37:50.280
in areas like the Humboldt County
01:37:50.280 --> 01:37:52.590
from our Humboldt Bay Generating Station
01:37:52.590 --> 01:37:55.080
and we also made great improvements
01:37:55.080 --> 01:37:57.920
like sectionalization devices
and temporary generation,
01:37:57.920 --> 01:37:58.910
including microgrids,
01:37:58.910 --> 01:38:01.760
which I'm gonna talk about
in a little bit more detail
01:38:01.760 --> 01:38:03.023
in a couple of slides.
01:38:03.860 --> 01:38:06.330
We also reduced the
amount of time it took
01:38:06.330 --> 01:38:07.820
to safely restore power
01:38:07.820 --> 01:38:10.610
after the adverse weather
has passed by 41%.
01:38:10.610 --> 01:38:15.610
So we went from 17 hours
on average of restoration time
01:38:16.480 --> 01:38:21.480
after the all weather clear
conditions were achieved down
01:38:22.120 --> 01:38:24.290
to 10 hours on average.
01:38:24.290 --> 01:38:26.850
To perform this, as
part of our largest event,
01:38:26.850 --> 01:38:29.050
we had more than 3,200 qualified
01:38:29.050 --> 01:38:31.990
on the ground personnel
supporting our inspection efforts.
01:38:31.990 --> 01:38:36.990
We deployed 65 helicopters
to inspect lines from the air,
01:38:37.120 --> 01:38:40.700
nearly doubling the
fleet that we had in 2019.
01:38:40.700 --> 01:38:42.910
We also deployed an airplane that has
01:38:42.910 --> 01:38:45.440
and was equipped with lidar technology
01:38:45.440 --> 01:38:48.160
to inspect transmission lines at night.
01:38:48.160 --> 01:38:50.540
So we don't necessarily
lose that time period
01:38:50.540 --> 01:38:53.373
from a restoration in an
inspection perspective.
01:38:54.240 --> 01:38:56.900
We also provided our customers
better information resources
01:38:56.900 --> 01:39:00.780
and assistance before,
during and after PSPS events.
01:39:00.780 --> 01:39:03.460
We provided notifications
from more than 12 million
01:39:04.600 --> 01:39:08.570
of our customers
over the six total events
01:39:08.570 --> 01:39:11.120
that were available in
13 different languages.
01:39:11.120 --> 01:39:15.360
We were successfully able to
reach 98.5% of our customers
01:39:15.360 --> 01:39:19.000
with accurate notifications
in 2020 compared to levels
01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:22.730
of the low 90% of customers in 2019.
01:39:22.730 --> 01:39:25.090
And for our Medical Baseline
customers we were able
01:39:25.090 --> 01:39:29.770
to achieve 99.5% accurate notifications.
01:39:29.770 --> 01:39:32.320
We obviously have more work to do
01:39:32.320 --> 01:39:36.040
but a marked improvement from 2019.
01:39:36.040 --> 01:39:39.070
We provided more than
30,000 food packages
01:39:39.070 --> 01:39:42.070
through partnerships
with local food banks,
01:39:42.070 --> 01:39:45.030
more than 6,500 portable
batteries that were provided
01:39:45.030 --> 01:39:49.360
to our Medical Baseline
customers that were in need
01:39:49.360 --> 01:39:52.720
and more than 4,500 customers
were served through many
01:39:52.720 --> 01:39:53.980
of the partnerships that we have
01:39:53.980 --> 01:39:56.200
with our community-based organizations
01:39:56.200 --> 01:39:59.570
that provide hotel
vouchers, transportation
01:39:59.570 --> 01:40:01.930
and other critical resources.
01:40:01.930 --> 01:40:05.090
These accomplishments
could not have occurred
01:40:05.090 --> 01:40:07.370
without the extensive
input over the past year
01:40:07.370 --> 01:40:11.620
from advisory councils,
regional councils, customer input,
01:40:11.620 --> 01:40:14.770
agency partners and frankly, your input.
01:40:14.770 --> 01:40:16.970
We know that even with these
improvements, there's more
01:40:16.970 --> 01:40:19.840
that we can do and are
committed to doing so
01:40:19.840 --> 01:40:22.060
in the 2021 season.
01:40:22.060 --> 01:40:24.630
So if we go to the next slide, please.
01:40:24.630 --> 01:40:28.980
What we've learned and heard
following the 2020 PSPS events.
01:40:28.980 --> 01:40:31.880
We continue to engage
and listen to our customers,
01:40:31.880 --> 01:40:34.850
agency partners, take their
feedback and implement it
01:40:34.850 --> 01:40:37.180
to make these events less impactful.
01:40:37.180 --> 01:40:38.340
The feedback has been critical for us
01:40:38.340 --> 01:40:40.970
to understand how
we continue to improve.
01:40:40.970 --> 01:40:41.803
For example,
01:40:41.803 --> 01:40:45.690
while our overall customer
experience was better last year
01:40:45.690 --> 01:40:47.470
and our website has improved,
01:40:47.470 --> 01:40:52.120
our information sharing still
needs further improvements.
01:40:52.120 --> 01:40:54.280
Some of our customers are receiving
01:40:54.280 --> 01:40:56.430
either inaccurate
notifications or notifications
01:40:56.430 --> 01:40:59.330
that were inconsistent
with the information
01:40:59.330 --> 01:41:01.060
on other channels, like the website.
01:41:01.060 --> 01:41:03.990
We also know that anytime
our customers lose power
01:41:03.990 --> 01:41:07.140
it's a burden and that there
are often economic impacts.
01:41:07.140 --> 01:41:09.750
We heard that more support
is needed for customers
01:41:09.750 --> 01:41:12.190
with access and functional needs
01:41:12.190 --> 01:41:15.130
and our agency partners
also received information
01:41:15.130 --> 01:41:18.370
and shared information with
us that vary between sources.
01:41:18.370 --> 01:41:19.530
We know it is frustrating
01:41:19.530 --> 01:41:22.010
for our agency partners
when they do not know
01:41:22.010 --> 01:41:24.320
which information is
the most up-to-date.
01:41:24.320 --> 01:41:27.080
We've acted immediately on
much of the feedback we heard
01:41:27.080 --> 01:41:29.270
during the course of last year's events
01:41:29.270 --> 01:41:33.010
and we have benefited
tremendously and continue to do so
01:41:33.010 --> 01:41:34.500
from advisory councils,
01:41:34.500 --> 01:41:37.140
such as the access and
functional needs focus council
01:41:37.140 --> 01:41:39.700
that we established in April of 2020
01:41:39.700 --> 01:41:42.220
that has been providing
independent expertise to us
01:41:42.220 --> 01:41:44.620
to help ensure that
our customer programs,
01:41:44.620 --> 01:41:47.940
operations and communications
incorporate best practices
01:41:47.940 --> 01:41:51.240
to support our AFN
customer population now
01:41:51.240 --> 01:41:52.140
and in the future.
01:41:53.190 --> 01:41:56.037
Additional feedback has directed many
01:41:56.037 --> 01:41:58.940
of the other improvements
that we're making this year
01:41:58.940 --> 01:42:02.090
and I will touch upon
three specific areas.
01:42:02.090 --> 01:42:04.260
First, in regards to customer support.
01:42:04.260 --> 01:42:06.060
Second, in regards to agencies
01:42:06.060 --> 01:42:09.070
and we'll also address
specifically the request
01:42:09.070 --> 01:42:11.350
from Commissioner Guzman
in regards to our engagement
01:42:11.350 --> 01:42:14.510
with the telecom partners as
well as water agency providers
01:42:14.510 --> 01:42:17.120
and then also the
unwavering focus we have
01:42:17.120 --> 01:42:18.790
on continued operational improvements.
01:42:18.790 --> 01:42:21.050
So we'll start with the
customer support programs
01:42:21.050 --> 01:42:22.973
so please of to the next slide, please.
01:42:24.120 --> 01:42:25.500
So this year we're improving
01:42:25.500 --> 01:42:27.640
by refining our customer notification so
01:42:27.640 --> 01:42:30.890
that the information is
consistent across all the channels
01:42:30.890 --> 01:42:32.690
and the message is clear.
01:42:32.690 --> 01:42:35.660
We're expanding our
in-language customer outreach
01:42:35.660 --> 01:42:40.660
to make available
languages to go from 13 to 16.
01:42:40.800 --> 01:42:43.720
We have also launched address alerts,
01:42:43.720 --> 01:42:44.870
which is a marked improvement
01:42:44.870 --> 01:42:47.580
from the zip code alert
process we had last year,
01:42:47.580 --> 01:42:49.190
which allowed anyone to be notified
01:42:49.190 --> 01:42:51.300
of an outage at any address.
01:42:51.300 --> 01:42:52.590
And this is really geared
01:42:52.590 --> 01:42:55.440
towards helping address
master meter accounts,
01:42:55.440 --> 01:42:59.060
such as apartment complexes
and mobile home parks
01:42:59.060 --> 01:43:00.930
and we're also expanding our network
01:43:00.930 --> 01:43:02.860
of community-based
organization partnerships
01:43:02.860 --> 01:43:07.120
with 285 organizations
covering our entire service area
01:43:07.120 --> 01:43:09.100
and focusing on serving
customers with access
01:43:09.100 --> 01:43:10.380
and functional needs.
01:43:10.380 --> 01:43:12.730
These partnerships provide
transportation support,
01:43:12.730 --> 01:43:15.720
hotel vouchers and
in-language communications.
01:43:15.720 --> 01:43:17.910
We're expanding our meal
replacement placement
01:43:17.910 --> 01:43:20.500
from local food banks and
Meals on Wheels programs
01:43:20.500 --> 01:43:23.550
to cover every county
that's likely to be impacted
01:43:23.550 --> 01:43:25.320
by a PSPS event.
01:43:25.320 --> 01:43:29.430
We're providing 5,000
additional portable batteries,
01:43:29.430 --> 01:43:31.970
totaling over 11,500 batteries
01:43:31.970 --> 01:43:35.000
through both our
portable battery program
01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:37.840
and our community-based
organization partnerships.
01:43:37.840 --> 01:43:39.947
Last year, we were able
to provide 6,500 batteries
01:43:39.947 --> 01:43:41.990
and our goal this year is
01:43:41.990 --> 01:43:44.230
to make available portable batteries
01:43:44.230 --> 01:43:47.360
for all low income
Medical Baseline customers
01:43:47.360 --> 01:43:48.193
in the high threat fire districts
01:43:48.193 --> 01:43:50.770
that would like access to one.
01:43:50.770 --> 01:43:52.670
We're continuing to expand our network
01:43:52.670 --> 01:43:56.420
of event ready ADA accessible
indoor CRC sites when
01:43:56.420 --> 01:43:58.880
it's safe to do so given COVID-19
01:43:58.880 --> 01:44:01.800
including adding more
CRC sites in coordination
01:44:01.800 --> 01:44:03.630
with our local agencies.
01:44:03.630 --> 01:44:06.580
We're expanding the outreach
or the generator rebate program
01:44:06.580 --> 01:44:09.723
for customers who rely
on well-watered pumps.
01:44:10.610 --> 01:44:12.920
We've also made an
effort to increase enrollment
01:44:12.920 --> 01:44:15.470
in the Medical Baseline
customer population.
01:44:15.470 --> 01:44:19.380
Last year, we had nearly a
26% increase of the experience
01:44:19.380 --> 01:44:22.010
and customers can also now self identify
01:44:22.010 --> 01:44:24.490
as having a serious illness or condition
01:44:24.490 --> 01:44:25.920
that could become life-threatening
01:44:25.920 --> 01:44:27.270
if service is disconnected.
01:44:28.240 --> 01:44:30.620
We are hopeful that
these resources can help
01:44:30.620 --> 01:44:33.860
to ease the burden for
customers who are impacted
01:44:33.860 --> 01:44:35.880
when we make the difficult
decision to turn off power
01:44:35.880 --> 01:44:37.830
as a measure of last resort for safety.
01:44:39.650 --> 01:44:41.850
Let me turn my attention
now to the agency
01:44:41.850 --> 01:44:43.840
and the tribal engagement and support,
01:44:43.840 --> 01:44:45.760
including the telecom service providers
01:44:45.760 --> 01:44:46.880
and water service providers.
01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:49.490
So if we go to the next slide, please.
01:44:49.490 --> 01:44:52.290
To help guide our improvements
this year, we are partnering
01:44:52.290 --> 01:44:55.920
with and requesting feedback
from cities, counties, tribes,
01:44:55.920 --> 01:44:58.840
regulatory agencies on joint solutions.
01:44:58.840 --> 01:45:00.940
This includes the partnerships we have
01:45:00.940 --> 01:45:03.780
on the listening sessions
with the counties, the tribes,
01:45:03.780 --> 01:45:05.030
the critical facilities.
01:45:05.030 --> 01:45:07.380
We've held 41 listening sessions
01:45:07.380 --> 01:45:10.030
following our PSPS events in 2020.
01:45:10.030 --> 01:45:12.160
We have working sessions
that we have established
01:45:12.160 --> 01:45:14.700
with all the emergency managers
from the counties and tribes
01:45:14.700 --> 01:45:18.670
to prepare for PSPS events
and partner on solutions.
01:45:18.670 --> 01:45:22.420
We've held 34 working sessions
in 2020 and are reaching out
01:45:22.420 --> 01:45:25.690
to all counties in our service
area beginning of this week
01:45:25.690 --> 01:45:27.730
to schedule additional meetings.
01:45:27.730 --> 01:45:30.540
We're improving our
in-event communications,
01:45:30.540 --> 01:45:32.070
including direct engagement
01:45:32.070 --> 01:45:36.090
with dedicated agency
representatives, including Cal OES,
01:45:36.090 --> 01:45:38.170
CAL FIRE and CPUC.
01:45:38.170 --> 01:45:41.330
Improving our state
agency calls from last year
01:45:41.330 --> 01:45:43.950
and also the portable
and situational reports
01:45:43.950 --> 01:45:46.840
in response to the feedback
that we have received.
01:45:46.840 --> 01:45:50.470
We're gonna continue to perform
PSPS exercises and trainings
01:45:50.470 --> 01:45:52.480
with agency, tribes and key stakeholders
01:45:52.480 --> 01:45:55.760
to simulate PSPS
events and identify areas
01:45:55.760 --> 01:45:59.830
for continued improvement
ahead of the wildfire season.
01:45:59.830 --> 01:46:03.370
Last year, we conducted
three full scale PSPS exercises
01:46:03.370 --> 01:46:04.430
from June to August
01:46:04.430 --> 01:46:07.840
and this year we will be
holding two tabletop workshops
01:46:07.840 --> 01:46:10.880
and two full-scale
exercises in May and July
01:46:10.880 --> 01:46:13.690
that include engagement
with our agency partners.
01:46:13.690 --> 01:46:17.240
We have ongoing regional
working groups for key stakeholders
01:46:17.240 --> 01:46:21.000
in each of our five regions and
advisory committee meetings
01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:22.610
that take place every other month.
01:46:22.610 --> 01:46:25.470
We've held 10 regional workshops in 2020
01:46:25.470 --> 01:46:29.460
and just wrapped up our five
regional working group meetings
01:46:29.460 --> 01:46:31.760
in the first quarter of this
year with key agencies,
01:46:31.760 --> 01:46:34.490
public safety partners
and AFN stakeholders.
01:46:34.490 --> 01:46:38.140
We will hold 15 additional
workshops and group meetings
01:46:38.140 --> 01:46:41.090
throughout 2021 and
we also continue to host
01:46:41.090 --> 01:46:44.050
and attend meetings with city
councils, board of supervisors
01:46:44.050 --> 01:46:46.790
critical facilities and
other key stakeholders.
01:46:46.790 --> 01:46:50.410
Last year, we held nearly
400 individual meetings.
01:46:50.410 --> 01:46:52.480
so this year we've already done 50
01:46:52.480 --> 01:46:55.410
and anticipate that we're well on track
01:46:55.410 --> 01:46:57.820
to be consistent with last year.
01:46:57.820 --> 01:46:59.390
The collaboration
with the cities, counties,
01:46:59.390 --> 01:47:01.790
tribes and key stakeholders
will continue to play a key role
01:47:01.790 --> 01:47:03.300
for our improvements.
01:47:03.300 --> 01:47:06.800
In relation to specifically the focus
01:47:06.800 --> 01:47:08.720
with our tribal communities,
01:47:08.720 --> 01:47:13.270
we have reached out to all
62 federally recognized tribes
01:47:13.270 --> 01:47:16.350
within our service area to
coordinate on CRC locations,
01:47:16.350 --> 01:47:18.290
which are the customer resource centers,
01:47:18.290 --> 01:47:21.660
our PSPS notification
contacts, portal access
01:47:21.660 --> 01:47:24.660
and training and local progress updates.
01:47:24.660 --> 01:47:27.210
We have a lead as our tribal liaison
01:47:27.210 --> 01:47:31.570
and we have included seven
additional resources in event
01:47:31.570 --> 01:47:35.000
from a support staff perspective
to be able to help enable
01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:37.840
that tribal liaison function
when we're in the course
01:47:37.840 --> 01:47:41.460
of a PSPS event, both
before, during and after.
01:47:41.460 --> 01:47:44.520
They perform site reviews
as part of our project work so
01:47:44.520 --> 01:47:46.560
that we have acute insights
and strong awareness
01:47:46.560 --> 01:47:48.300
of the tribal issues.
01:47:48.300 --> 01:47:50.440
We're also engaging
with the tribal health
01:47:50.440 --> 01:47:52.990
to promote Medical Baseline
program and connecting
01:47:52.990 --> 01:47:56.700
with food pantries and
replacement options on tribal lands
01:47:56.700 --> 01:47:59.440
to explore potential partnerships.
01:47:59.440 --> 01:48:01.830
In regards to the
telecom service providers,
01:48:01.830 --> 01:48:05.540
we initiated a group in
early 2020 to create a forum
01:48:05.540 --> 01:48:08.340
for communication providers
so that we can provide feedback
01:48:08.340 --> 01:48:09.880
and they can provide feedback to us
01:48:09.880 --> 01:48:12.850
on our current PSPS
implementation protocols.
01:48:12.850 --> 01:48:15.571
We have attendees and
membership from AT&T,
01:48:15.571 --> 01:48:18.800
Verizon Wireless, Comcast,
Frontier Communications,
01:48:18.800 --> 01:48:22.470
T-Mobile, Consolidated
Communications to name a few
01:48:22.470 --> 01:48:25.890
amongst others within
our service territory
01:48:25.890 --> 01:48:28.120
and they've continued to
provide us valuable feedback
01:48:28.120 --> 01:48:30.830
in regards to our performance in 2020.
01:48:30.830 --> 01:48:33.170
While the feedback has
been generally positive,
01:48:33.170 --> 01:48:35.100
the group has also
recommended improvements
01:48:35.100 --> 01:48:38.770
for more accessibility to
PSPS event information,
01:48:38.770 --> 01:48:42.440
including maps in the PSPS
portal and the support role
01:48:42.440 --> 01:48:44.210
that's provided during PSPS events
01:48:44.210 --> 01:48:47.113
by our critical infrastructure lead.
01:48:48.150 --> 01:48:51.570
We're also coordinating with
the telecom entities leadership
01:48:51.570 --> 01:48:54.670
I've personally had several
meetings with the leadership
01:48:54.670 --> 01:48:57.510
of the likes of AT&T,
Verizon and Comcast
01:48:57.510 --> 01:48:58.343
and we're supporting
01:48:58.343 --> 01:49:00.890
their wireless wire
line resiliency plans
01:49:01.960 --> 01:49:05.300
in regards to (indistinct)
that's informed by insights
01:49:05.300 --> 01:49:09.100
on the anticipated frequency
and extent of PSPS events based
01:49:09.100 --> 01:49:12.270
on our vast meteorological
forecast and historical events
01:49:12.270 --> 01:49:13.250
that we can share with them
01:49:13.250 --> 01:49:15.233
to further help their resiliency plans.
01:49:16.240 --> 01:49:18.970
In regards to the water agencies,
01:49:18.970 --> 01:49:22.720
we have worked closely with
water agencies individually
01:49:22.720 --> 01:49:24.090
and via organizations
01:49:24.090 --> 01:49:26.660
like the Association of
California Water Agencies
01:49:26.660 --> 01:49:29.470
to support preparedness for PSPS.
01:49:29.470 --> 01:49:30.860
East Bay MUD
01:49:30.860 --> 01:49:33.007
and other water agencies
are public safety partners to us.
01:49:33.007 --> 01:49:36.550
They have portal access during events.
01:49:36.550 --> 01:49:38.880
Furthermore, East Bay MUD participated
01:49:38.880 --> 01:49:42.100
in one of our full-scale
exercises last year
01:49:42.100 --> 01:49:44.330
and water agencies participate also
01:49:44.330 --> 01:49:47.670
in our regional working groups
that I previously mentioned.
01:49:47.670 --> 01:49:51.080
We have also held very
specific PSPS seminars,
01:49:51.080 --> 01:49:54.240
portal trainings and
post-season listening sessions
01:49:54.240 --> 01:49:58.190
with our water sector and
we've also provided and worked
01:49:58.190 --> 01:50:02.200
in partnership with EPA's
region nine, as an example
01:50:02.200 --> 01:50:03.330
to support water agency
01:50:03.330 --> 01:50:05.130
best practice standard
operating procedures so
01:50:05.130 --> 01:50:07.890
that we can enhance the
preparedness for PSPS
01:50:07.890 --> 01:50:09.680
and other power interruptions.
01:50:09.680 --> 01:50:11.497
Notably this work was
focused on supporting some
01:50:11.497 --> 01:50:14.463
of the smaller and tribal water systems.
01:50:16.270 --> 01:50:17.710
My last topic I wanna touch
01:50:17.710 --> 01:50:19.326
on is the operational improvements.
01:50:19.326 --> 01:50:21.660
So if we go to the last slide, please.
01:50:21.660 --> 01:50:24.420
Our wildfire safety efforts
are continuing to evolve
01:50:24.420 --> 01:50:26.670
and improve every year
to reflect lessons learned,
01:50:26.670 --> 01:50:28.810
new technology and
feedback from our customers
01:50:28.810 --> 01:50:32.200
and communities and
our approach is reflected
01:50:32.200 --> 01:50:35.560
in our 2021 wildfire mitigation plan.
01:50:35.560 --> 01:50:38.380
The focus areas for
us continue to improve
01:50:38.380 --> 01:50:41.960
upon our situational awareness
with more weather stations
01:50:41.960 --> 01:50:43.440
and high definition cameras.
01:50:43.440 --> 01:50:46.270
This year, we will
complete the installation
01:50:46.270 --> 01:50:47.740
of our advanced weather station
01:50:47.740 --> 01:50:51.400
and we'll have one station
roughly every 20 miles
01:50:51.400 --> 01:50:54.540
along our lines of the
high fire threat districts
01:50:54.540 --> 01:50:57.240
with a total of 1300 weather stations
01:50:57.240 --> 01:50:59.140
by the end of this year.
01:50:59.140 --> 01:51:01.370
Next year, we will complete our network
01:51:01.370 --> 01:51:03.220
of high definition
cameras, which allow us
01:51:03.220 --> 01:51:04.977
to have visual access to more than 90%
01:51:04.977 --> 01:51:08.170
of the high threat areas
in our service area.
01:51:08.170 --> 01:51:09.003
In addition to the
01:51:09.003 --> 01:51:11.390
near real-time fire
detection capabilities
01:51:11.390 --> 01:51:15.237
that we have today in place
through the NASA GOES-16
01:51:15.237 --> 01:51:19.350
and 17 satellites, which
we implemented last year.
01:51:19.350 --> 01:51:22.100
We're continuing to refine
our weather forecasting
01:51:22.100 --> 01:51:23.210
and modeling capabilities,
01:51:23.210 --> 01:51:25.490
making sure that we can
accurately forecast the areas
01:51:25.490 --> 01:51:27.350
of highest wildfire risk.
01:51:27.350 --> 01:51:28.790
This year, we will be able
01:51:28.790 --> 01:51:32.080
to further align our weather
forecasting with the areas
01:51:32.080 --> 01:51:34.310
that are at a higher
risk of potential wildfires
01:51:34.310 --> 01:51:35.143
through the use
01:51:35.143 --> 01:51:38.170
of the Technosylva fire
simulation capabilities.
01:51:38.170 --> 01:51:41.210
I think a platform of fire
simulation capabilities
01:51:41.210 --> 01:51:44.620
that the other IOUs, the
respective Commission
01:51:44.620 --> 01:51:46.860
and CAL FIRE is well aware of.
01:51:46.860 --> 01:51:47.710
And we're also gonna be able
01:51:47.710 --> 01:51:52.260
to forecast severe weather
one day earlier than last year.
01:51:52.260 --> 01:51:53.300
So we'll be able to go
01:51:53.300 --> 01:51:56.050
from a rolling four day
look ahead forecast
01:51:56.050 --> 01:51:59.210
to a five day look ahead, forecast.
01:51:59.210 --> 01:52:02.390
We're continuing to make
improvements to our electric grid,
01:52:02.390 --> 01:52:04.560
including preparing
additional microgrids
01:52:04.560 --> 01:52:08.070
and installing 250 more
sectionalization devices
01:52:08.070 --> 01:52:10.000
to further reduce the scope of PSPS.
01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:12.930
This is on top of the nearly 600 devices
01:52:12.930 --> 01:52:16.080
that we have already
installed or automated in 2020.
01:52:16.080 --> 01:52:19.380
We're continuing to support
CRCs, critical services,
01:52:19.380 --> 01:52:22.590
temporary distribution microgrids
and substation microgrids,
01:52:22.590 --> 01:52:23.440
including looking
01:52:23.440 --> 01:52:26.380
for diesel alternative
generation technologies
01:52:26.380 --> 01:52:28.133
to pilot in 2021.
01:52:29.410 --> 01:52:31.780
We're also refining
our restoration process
01:52:31.780 --> 01:52:34.480
to meet the requirement of
having all customers restored
01:52:34.480 --> 01:52:36.283
within 24 hours of the adverse weather,
01:52:36.283 --> 01:52:37.970
consistent with the CPUC's requirement
01:52:37.970 --> 01:52:40.300
and we've got a specific focus
01:52:40.300 --> 01:52:43.440
on creating more granular
restoration plans for circuits
01:52:43.440 --> 01:52:46.710
that are impacted more
frequently and located in areas
01:52:46.710 --> 01:52:49.730
that are harder for our
field personnel to access.
01:52:49.730 --> 01:52:51.570
And we're also continuing
to harden our system
01:52:51.570 --> 01:52:53.670
with stronger poles and covered lines
01:52:53.670 --> 01:52:55.190
and also focused under grounding
01:52:55.190 --> 01:52:58.750
and taking a very similar
approach to the colleagues
01:52:58.750 --> 01:53:01.600
that discussed the
approach that they're taking
01:53:01.600 --> 01:53:02.930
with San Diego Gas and Electric.
01:53:02.930 --> 01:53:05.730
We've got an enhanced
risk model that is helping us
01:53:05.730 --> 01:53:07.790
to be even more focused
with our work locations
01:53:07.790 --> 01:53:10.610
and we're prioritizing areas
that are at the highest risk,
01:53:10.610 --> 01:53:14.040
significant wildfires over the
course of the last two years.
01:53:14.040 --> 01:53:16.990
We have hardened more than 550 miles
01:53:16.990 --> 01:53:20.300
and we've got to continue to
focus on that effort to be able
01:53:20.300 --> 01:53:23.453
to engineer the wildfire
risk out of our system.
01:53:24.700 --> 01:53:26.640
Lastly, I would like to
address the discussions
01:53:26.640 --> 01:53:29.440
that are currently taking
place with a federal court
01:53:29.440 --> 01:53:33.480
regarding a potential change
to PSPS criteria this year.
01:53:33.480 --> 01:53:35.280
Following our discussions with the CPUC,
01:53:35.280 --> 01:53:36.650
we shared our perspective
01:53:36.650 --> 01:53:39.050
on the court's proposed conditions.
01:53:39.050 --> 01:53:41.900
We share the unwavering
focus of both the court
01:53:41.900 --> 01:53:45.300
and the CPUC of advancing public safety
01:53:45.300 --> 01:53:47.460
and we'll continue working
with all stakeholders
01:53:47.460 --> 01:53:49.590
to advance a shared objective.
01:53:49.590 --> 01:53:53.030
We understand the concerns
with the proposed conditions
01:53:53.030 --> 01:53:56.560
that have been shared by
both the CPUC and the Cal OES.
01:53:56.560 --> 01:53:59.330
We agree that the matter
should be considered at the CPUC
01:53:59.330 --> 01:54:03.050
on an expedited basis and
look forward to engaging
01:54:03.050 --> 01:54:05.623
with the CPUC's energy division and SED
01:54:06.620 --> 01:54:10.190
in the established process
as requested by the CPUC
01:54:10.190 --> 01:54:13.090
in a letter to us this
morning to reach resolution
01:54:13.090 --> 01:54:16.210
as quickly as possible in
order to plan and prepare
01:54:16.210 --> 01:54:18.570
for the upcoming wildfire season.
01:54:18.570 --> 01:54:20.180
Thank you again for
the opportunity to engage
01:54:20.180 --> 01:54:22.580
with you today and I'd be
happy to answer any questions
01:54:22.580 --> 01:54:24.410
that you may have and
we look forward to your input
01:54:24.410 --> 01:54:26.720
and the input during the
public comment session
01:54:26.720 --> 01:54:28.420
on how we can continue to improve.
01:54:29.550 --> 01:54:31.240
Thank you, Mr. Singh.
01:54:31.240 --> 01:54:33.950
Appreciate your presentation very much.
01:54:33.950 --> 01:54:37.310
I kept reflecting back on 2019,
01:54:37.310 --> 01:54:42.213
thinking how we are certainly
not perfect by any means.
01:54:42.213 --> 01:54:46.210
We will hear that from
our partners this afternoon
01:54:46.210 --> 01:54:49.643
but improvement has been made.
01:54:54.550 --> 01:54:57.380
I do have one quick
question on under grounding.
01:54:57.380 --> 01:54:59.010
I don't know that I've heard any
01:54:59.010 --> 01:55:01.980
of your under grounding specifics,
01:55:01.980 --> 01:55:05.810
miles that you had
planned to underground.
01:55:05.810 --> 01:55:07.310
How many you have underground.
01:55:08.660 --> 01:55:09.810
Do you have that handy?
01:55:10.770 --> 01:55:11.990
Sure, President Batjer.
01:55:11.990 --> 01:55:13.730
I can share the approach with you.
01:55:13.730 --> 01:55:18.730
So the last two years we
have hardened 550 miles.
01:55:20.010 --> 01:55:22.090
A lot of the under
grounding that we've done
01:55:22.090 --> 01:55:23.880
more than 50 miles over the last couple
01:55:23.880 --> 01:55:27.520
of years has been as part
of the Butte County rebuild
01:55:27.520 --> 01:55:29.880
for the paradise system as you know.
01:55:29.880 --> 01:55:34.880
Going forward, we evaluate
each project that we look at
01:55:37.130 --> 01:55:39.790
from a system
hardening lens to identify,
01:55:39.790 --> 01:55:44.530
is it most effective from a
risk spend efficiency standpoint
01:55:44.530 --> 01:55:48.170
to do overhead hardening,
to do under grounding
01:55:48.170 --> 01:55:53.170
or to do a line removal as
was referenced by my colleague
01:55:53.700 --> 01:55:55.160
in San Diego Gas and Electric
01:55:55.160 --> 01:56:00.030
where in some cases
we have significant lines,
01:56:00.030 --> 01:56:02.460
five and a half miles or
so traversing dense forest,
01:56:02.460 --> 01:56:04.110
providing service to
four or five customers.
01:56:04.110 --> 01:56:07.680
In those instances, we have
identified as most prudent
01:56:07.680 --> 01:56:10.950
to eliminate that line and
provide a remote grid type
01:56:10.950 --> 01:56:11.790
of a solution.
01:56:11.790 --> 01:56:15.060
So those are the three
elements that are part
01:56:15.060 --> 01:56:16.960
of our system hardening plan.
01:56:16.960 --> 01:56:20.040
And as we've applied
that for a lot of the scoping
01:56:20.040 --> 01:56:25.040
for OUR 2021 work and going
forward into 2022 and 2023,
01:56:25.500 --> 01:56:30.050
of the 180 miles that we
have forecasted for this year,
01:56:30.050 --> 01:56:33.660
we're preparing a lot of
the work for under grounding
01:56:33.660 --> 01:56:35.490
for 2022 and going forward.
01:56:35.490 --> 01:56:36.323
We'll be ramping up
01:56:36.323 --> 01:56:39.240
to about 500 miles total
per system hardening
01:56:39.240 --> 01:56:43.360
and we're seeing roughly
35 to 40% of that being
01:56:43.360 --> 01:56:48.360
in the under grounding
category, evaluating the risk
01:56:48.610 --> 01:56:53.070
from a very granular lens of
risk reduced per dollar spent
01:56:53.070 --> 01:56:55.010
for the full asset lifecycle cost
01:56:55.010 --> 01:56:56.450
for each of those alternatives.
01:56:56.450 --> 01:56:58.130
So that's roughly what we're seeing
01:56:58.130 --> 01:57:00.180
in the scoping process,
President Batjer.
01:57:01.420 --> 01:57:02.320
Thank you.
01:57:02.320 --> 01:57:04.120
I'm going to turn to
the rest of the dais
01:57:04.120 --> 01:57:05.790
towards doing so very quickly.
01:57:05.790 --> 01:57:07.370
Just a time check.
01:57:07.370 --> 01:57:10.380
We are running about 15 minutes behind
01:57:10.380 --> 01:57:14.480
and we have members of
the public, I know standing by
01:57:14.480 --> 01:57:15.570
to ask questions.
01:57:15.570 --> 01:57:19.030
So we will not cut into their time.
01:57:19.030 --> 01:57:22.410
We will shorten our lunch break time.
01:57:22.410 --> 01:57:25.477
So I'll just turn to
the rest of the dais
01:57:25.477 --> 01:57:28.060
for any questions now
but just to remind everyone,
01:57:28.060 --> 01:57:31.653
let's keep it as efficient
as possible, thanks.
01:57:36.820 --> 01:57:37.653
Yes, go ahead.
01:57:37.653 --> 01:57:38.610
I'm sorry.
01:57:38.610 --> 01:57:39.443
Speak up.
01:57:41.270 --> 01:57:42.393
Is that chief? Yes.
01:57:45.170 --> 01:57:46.860
I'm not getting the audio.
01:57:46.860 --> 01:57:48.423
Now, yes okay.
01:57:50.270 --> 01:57:52.120
Chief Berlant, we've got to hear you.
01:57:53.420 --> 01:57:54.960
(indistinct)
01:57:54.960 --> 01:57:57.470
Now.
Okay, perfect.
01:57:57.470 --> 01:58:00.270
So I have a question on
your power restoration goals.
01:58:00.270 --> 01:58:03.170
You had mentioned that
last year you made progress
01:58:03.170 --> 01:58:07.584
in reducing your time to
restore the power after a PSPS.
01:58:07.584 --> 01:58:10.090
In 2019 and 2020 you had specific goals.
01:58:10.090 --> 01:58:13.970
In fact, last year your goal
was an average of 10 hours.
01:58:13.970 --> 01:58:16.500
However, in your 2021
plan looking it over,
01:58:16.500 --> 01:58:19.460
your goal is now set and extended
01:58:19.460 --> 01:58:21.740
to the CPUC's required 24 hours.
01:58:21.740 --> 01:58:25.328
So you're going from a
goal of 10 down to up to 24.
01:58:25.328 --> 01:58:27.570
So it just seems like your
goal is going backwards
01:58:27.570 --> 01:58:29.620
and I was wondering if
you could maybe expand
01:58:29.620 --> 01:58:32.633
on what your actual
goal this year will look like.
01:58:34.020 --> 01:58:36.083
Thank you, chief
for that question.
01:58:37.070 --> 01:58:40.120
More specifically, the goal
for us last year that we had
01:58:40.120 --> 01:58:44.480
in the 2020 wildfire mitigation
plan wants to restore 98%
01:58:44.480 --> 01:58:47.430
or more of our customers
within 12 daylight hours
01:58:47.430 --> 01:58:50.020
after the weather all clear.
01:58:50.020 --> 01:58:54.620
We were able to achieve
95.5% last year and much of
01:58:54.620 --> 01:58:57.560
that was attributed to
the first event that we had
01:58:57.560 --> 01:58:58.393
in September 7th.
01:58:58.393 --> 01:59:00.030
If you recall, we had
a significant number
01:59:00.030 --> 01:59:03.040
of lightning caused fires where a lot
01:59:03.040 --> 01:59:06.500
of our helicopter fleet was grounded
01:59:06.500 --> 01:59:10.250
and in that specific
event, we achieved 91%
01:59:10.250 --> 01:59:13.880
and obviously for the
remaining five events, didn't have
01:59:13.880 --> 01:59:15.580
that runway to be able to recover it.
01:59:15.580 --> 01:59:17.757
But nonetheless got to 95.5%.
01:59:17.757 --> 01:59:21.500
So our goal chief is
to maintain that level
01:59:21.500 --> 01:59:23.610
of performance going forward.
01:59:23.610 --> 01:59:27.730
So it's not intended to
be back for backwards are
01:59:27.730 --> 01:59:29.950
referenced in the wildfire
mitigation plan was
01:59:29.950 --> 01:59:33.430
in recognition to the decision
that was put forward as part
01:59:33.430 --> 01:59:35.800
of the PSPS OYR in regards
01:59:35.800 --> 01:59:38.490
to ensuring how all
customers are restored.
01:59:38.490 --> 01:59:41.630
A hundred percent of customers
were sorted within 24 hours
01:59:41.630 --> 01:59:43.740
unless there's
extenuating circumstances.
01:59:43.740 --> 01:59:46.920
So our intent is not to go backwards.
01:59:46.920 --> 01:59:49.550
If anything, our goal is
to maintain performance
01:59:49.550 --> 01:59:53.960
from last year and further
improve going into 2021.
01:59:53.960 --> 01:59:56.120
So that's gonna be our continued effort.
01:59:56.120 --> 02:00:00.160
We're gonna have access
to 65 plus helicopters.
02:00:00.160 --> 02:00:01.100
We're gonna have access
02:00:01.100 --> 02:00:05.490
to the 3000 plus
qualified safety inspectors
02:00:05.490 --> 02:00:06.470
and we're gonna have access
02:00:06.470 --> 02:00:09.970
to two additional fixed aircraft wings
02:00:09.970 --> 02:00:12.720
with lidar capability so we
could do the night patrols.
02:00:14.970 --> 02:00:16.590
I appreciate that explanation.
02:00:16.590 --> 02:00:18.496
One quick question. I know
we're running out of time.
02:00:18.496 --> 02:00:20.730
As you made a lot of
progress in other areas
02:00:20.730 --> 02:00:23.700
in your wildfire mitigation initiatives,
02:00:23.700 --> 02:00:25.560
how is that being taken into account
02:00:25.560 --> 02:00:28.010
in your PSPS
decision-making for example,
02:00:28.010 --> 02:00:30.850
as you're hurting anymore circuits,
02:00:30.850 --> 02:00:33.380
as you are continuing completion
02:00:33.380 --> 02:00:35.010
of enhancement station management.
02:00:35.010 --> 02:00:36.840
Is that data being incorporated
02:00:36.840 --> 02:00:39.280
into the overall decision-making
02:00:39.280 --> 02:00:40.763
on when to shut the power off?
02:00:41.674 --> 02:00:43.233
Well, thank you
chief for that question.
02:00:45.266 --> 02:00:48.850
So in the instances where
we have under grounded
02:00:48.850 --> 02:00:52.810
and we have made
safe the respective circuit
02:00:52.810 --> 02:00:54.453
that's providing service to
the high fire threat districts
02:00:54.453 --> 02:00:58.380
because if we think about
how our circuits are configured,
02:00:58.380 --> 02:00:59.780
we could have a source that may be
02:00:59.780 --> 02:01:01.500
in the non-high fire threat district,
02:01:01.500 --> 02:01:04.510
traverses the high fire
threat district, comes back out
02:01:04.510 --> 02:01:06.700
and it goes back into
a high fire threat district
02:01:06.700 --> 02:01:08.770
So we have to make that entire circuit
02:01:08.770 --> 02:01:12.700
or what we call circuit protection
zone safe and hardened
02:01:12.700 --> 02:01:13.710
before we can remove that
02:01:13.710 --> 02:01:15.590
from a PSPS consideration perspective.
02:01:15.590 --> 02:01:17.470
So for under grounding alignment module,
02:01:17.470 --> 02:01:19.450
that's absolutely considered
02:01:19.450 --> 02:01:21.500
from a PSPS threshold standpoint
02:01:21.500 --> 02:01:23.780
and then currently we're working
02:01:23.780 --> 02:01:26.800
on a methodology where
we do have covered conductor
02:01:26.800 --> 02:01:30.430
on what the changes to that threshold
02:01:30.430 --> 02:01:32.880
for the decision making
is gonna be to be able
02:01:32.880 --> 02:01:36.220
to add that additional
safety factor that we do get
02:01:36.220 --> 02:01:37.730
from the covered conductor and then
02:01:37.730 --> 02:01:40.830
that would raise our PSPS threshold.
02:01:40.830 --> 02:01:43.060
So that's how we're
going to be considering
02:01:43.060 --> 02:01:45.530
and including the work we're doing
02:01:45.530 --> 02:01:47.550
on the system resiliency side
02:01:47.550 --> 02:01:50.160
to further help
incorporate the thresholds
02:01:50.160 --> 02:01:51.610
and the varying thresholds
02:01:51.610 --> 02:01:53.690
from a PSPS decision
making standpoint at
02:01:53.690 --> 02:01:55.190
that respective circuit level.
02:02:00.724 --> 02:02:01.557
Thank you President Batjer.
02:02:01.557 --> 02:02:03.930
Yes, please go ahead.
02:02:03.930 --> 02:02:07.040
Thank you and thank you,
Mr. Singh for answering the water
02:02:07.040 --> 02:02:09.040
and telecommunication
questions very thoroughly.
02:02:09.040 --> 02:02:11.890
Very much appreciate the
progress that's been made there.
02:02:12.860 --> 02:02:15.350
One small question
that you can follow up on.
02:02:15.350 --> 02:02:17.810
In the under grounding
efforts that you're doing,
02:02:17.810 --> 02:02:20.230
are you ensuring that
you're at in conduit
02:02:20.230 --> 02:02:23.323
for telecommunication facilities
as you're under grounding?
02:02:24.870 --> 02:02:27.880
Thank you for that question,
Commissioner Guzman.
02:02:27.880 --> 02:02:31.890
So in the case of the
Paradise rebuild, we absolutely
02:02:31.890 --> 02:02:35.010
are coordinated not just
on the gas, the electric
02:02:35.010 --> 02:02:38.040
but also the telecom providers
02:02:38.040 --> 02:02:42.710
and the instances where we
work with the telecom providers
02:02:42.710 --> 02:02:44.760
and there's interest
on their part as well,
02:02:44.760 --> 02:02:45.593
we have a mechanism
02:02:45.593 --> 02:02:50.110
by which we have the joint
trench shared agreement
02:02:50.110 --> 02:02:53.260
that we can rely on for
the purposes of having
02:02:53.260 --> 02:02:56.460
that joint trench for
doing the under grounding.
02:02:56.460 --> 02:02:58.400
For the most part, for a
lot of the under grounding
02:02:58.400 --> 02:03:01.670
that we're doing for fire
risk resiliency purposes,
02:03:01.670 --> 02:03:03.173
outside of what's happening
with the Butte County
02:03:03.173 --> 02:03:05.180
and the Paradise rebuild.
02:03:05.180 --> 02:03:07.850
What we've primarily
seen at the moment is a lot
02:03:07.850 --> 02:03:09.780
of us driving that under grounding
02:03:09.780 --> 02:03:12.763
from an electrical facility
perspective at the moment.
02:03:14.520 --> 02:03:16.850
Okay, well, I'd like to have
a follow up with you on that
02:03:16.850 --> 02:03:19.630
but we can keep that as a follow-up
02:03:19.630 --> 02:03:21.890
and an opportunity really
for these communities
02:03:21.890 --> 02:03:23.780
to become more resilient.
02:03:23.780 --> 02:03:25.230
And then my final question is,
02:03:25.230 --> 02:03:27.810
can you talk a little bit about
what the role is gonna be
02:03:27.810 --> 02:03:30.110
with the regional vice presidents?
02:03:30.110 --> 02:03:31.680
I don't know if I have that title right
02:03:31.680 --> 02:03:33.463
on your reorganization proposal.
02:03:35.480 --> 02:03:37.720
Yes, thank you.
Commercial Guzman on that.
02:03:37.720 --> 02:03:39.620
Obviously, as you know, is occurring as
02:03:39.620 --> 02:03:43.860
part of the regionalization
proceeding itself
02:03:43.860 --> 02:03:48.280
but as we start to stand up,
the regional vice presidents,
02:03:48.280 --> 02:03:51.370
we're, as Adam also mentioned
with the implementation
02:03:51.370 --> 02:03:53.750
of the lean operating system and the use
02:03:53.750 --> 02:03:56.570
and standing up the
daily operating reviews,
02:03:56.570 --> 02:04:00.610
it's the same management
philosophy that we're implementing
02:04:00.610 --> 02:04:02.430
with all of the wildfire risk
02:04:02.430 --> 02:04:05.160
and the all the wildfire
mitigation work that we're doing.
02:04:05.160 --> 02:04:09.980
So as we stand both of those
elements in parallel over time,
02:04:09.980 --> 02:04:10.970
the expectation would be
02:04:10.970 --> 02:04:13.820
that the regional vice
presidents would have oversight
02:04:13.820 --> 02:04:16.670
of the wildfire respective
activities that are taking place
02:04:16.670 --> 02:04:20.010
on the mitigation side within
their respective regions.
02:04:20.010 --> 02:04:23.620
One example is, the work
that we've already started
02:04:23.620 --> 02:04:26.970
with the engagement with our
emergency management partners,
02:04:26.970 --> 02:04:29.820
the local counties, going forward,
02:04:29.820 --> 02:04:31.500
that relationship would be owned
02:04:31.500 --> 02:04:34.330
by the respective regional
vice presidents not just
02:04:34.330 --> 02:04:38.580
for the PSPS interactions
but all work that's happening
02:04:38.580 --> 02:04:40.460
within that respective region.
02:04:40.460 --> 02:04:44.290
So we're gonna be very
well coordinated as we align to
02:04:44.290 --> 02:04:45.960
that both regional structure
02:04:45.960 --> 02:04:47.890
as well as what we're
implementing as part
02:04:47.890 --> 02:04:50.640
of the wildfire risk organization
that Adam referenced.
02:04:56.000 --> 02:04:58.423
Thank you.
A pleasure.
02:04:59.320 --> 02:05:00.380
Moving on.
02:05:00.380 --> 02:05:03.050
Any other questions of Mr. Singh?
02:05:03.050 --> 02:05:06.503
I have a quick one,
President Batjer of Cal OES.
02:05:07.640 --> 02:05:09.580
Thank you Mr. Singh
for your presentation.
02:05:09.580 --> 02:05:12.210
One of the areas where
we haven't had a lot
02:05:12.210 --> 02:05:15.780
of uniformity necessarily across IOUs or
02:05:16.759 --> 02:05:20.620
in the different jurisdictions
is the way that information
02:05:20.620 --> 02:05:23.370
on outages is, the boundaries.
02:05:23.370 --> 02:05:25.150
So for example, you
mentioned in your slides
02:05:25.150 --> 02:05:28.760
that obviously a customer
with the address based,
02:05:28.760 --> 02:05:30.840
you mentioned zip code based
02:05:30.840 --> 02:05:33.390
but is there been any
progress towards being able
02:05:33.390 --> 02:05:35.210
to provide info to decision-makers
02:05:35.210 --> 02:05:38.960
that perhaps has a city
boundary, county boundary,
02:05:38.960 --> 02:05:42.770
or other ways that they
can assure decision-makers
02:05:42.770 --> 02:05:45.083
to know the full impact
in their jurisdiction?
02:05:46.930 --> 02:05:48.160
Thanks for that question.
02:05:48.160 --> 02:05:51.407
We have continued
work to do in that space
02:05:51.407 --> 02:05:53.610
and we're working with Cal OES.
02:05:53.610 --> 02:05:55.930
To my understanding,
working very closely
02:05:55.930 --> 02:06:00.080
on the feedback that's been
provided on how we can continue
02:06:00.080 --> 02:06:03.130
to improve upon the information
that we're sharing as part
02:06:03.130 --> 02:06:06.890
of the events, the information
that we're uploading
02:06:06.890 --> 02:06:09.120
in the PSPS portals.
02:06:09.120 --> 02:06:12.290
So we've gotten that
feedback and we are committed
02:06:12.290 --> 02:06:16.540
to ensuring that we meet
the expectations of yourself,
02:06:16.540 --> 02:06:21.420
of Cal OES as we get
into the 2021 season itself.
02:06:21.420 --> 02:06:24.360
We also have joint and
collaborative sessions
02:06:24.360 --> 02:06:27.900
as you may be aware
with Cal OES, CAL FIRE,
02:06:27.900 --> 02:06:31.360
the other tool and the major
IOUs to ensure there's a level
02:06:31.360 --> 02:06:34.760
of consistency on the
approach that we're taking
02:06:34.760 --> 02:06:38.120
and in relationship
to the address lookup
02:06:38.120 --> 02:06:41.420
that I was referencing
or the address alerts,
02:06:41.420 --> 02:06:46.180
a lot of that was feedback that
we received for homeowners
02:06:46.180 --> 02:06:48.840
or individuals that may
be in apartment complexes
02:06:48.840 --> 02:06:52.370
or in mobile homes where their tenant
02:06:52.370 --> 02:06:54.750
typically who has
their registered account
02:06:54.750 --> 02:06:57.410
with us is the one
who's getting notified
02:06:57.410 --> 02:06:59.590
but the individuals
within the apartments
02:06:59.590 --> 02:07:02.340
or the mobile homes may
not be getting that notification
02:07:02.340 --> 02:07:05.640
but now what they can do
with address alert is to enter
02:07:05.640 --> 02:07:09.970
that address and provide
their contact information
02:07:09.970 --> 02:07:11.290
for the master meter account,
02:07:11.290 --> 02:07:14.670
so that even though there may
not have a customer account
02:07:14.670 --> 02:07:17.790
with us, they can still
get that notification.
02:07:17.790 --> 02:07:20.100
So that's the improved granularity
02:07:20.100 --> 02:07:22.337
and capability we've
stood up now that's in place.
02:07:22.337 --> 02:07:25.100
But in regards to the
information exchange
02:07:25.100 --> 02:07:27.910
with the agencies and Cal
OES, we're committed to working
02:07:27.910 --> 02:07:30.893
with you to make sure we
provide and meet the needs
02:07:30.893 --> 02:07:32.173
that's expected of us.
02:07:33.030 --> 02:07:33.863
Thank you.
02:07:34.727 --> 02:07:37.550
Mr. Sing, so quick
follow up to that,
02:07:37.550 --> 02:07:39.003
on the master meter,
02:07:40.030 --> 02:07:42.910
because I was extremely
been very concerned about this
02:07:42.910 --> 02:07:44.560
in the last two years.
02:07:44.560 --> 02:07:46.210
We'll use the program you just described
02:07:46.210 --> 02:07:50.470
before we implemented
for the 2021 fire season.
02:07:50.470 --> 02:07:51.540
It will be President Batjer,
02:07:51.540 --> 02:07:53.200
it's operational now.
02:07:53.200 --> 02:07:56.240
You can go to our website
and you can actually sign up
02:07:56.240 --> 02:07:57.467
for the address alerts.
02:07:59.240 --> 02:08:01.190
Have you had good
acceptance of that?
02:08:03.837 --> 02:08:05.900
I don't have that off head,
02:08:05.900 --> 02:08:08.307
I know we recently
implemented that President Batjer
02:08:08.307 --> 02:08:11.740
and we intend to use the
same communication vehicles
02:08:11.740 --> 02:08:14.280
and channels that we have implemented
02:08:14.280 --> 02:08:16.900
and really partnering heavy with many
02:08:16.900 --> 02:08:21.530
of our 285 plus
community-based organizations
02:08:21.530 --> 02:08:25.070
for the outreach, for the
communications and engagement
02:08:25.070 --> 02:08:27.650
at that local regional level.
02:08:27.650 --> 02:08:32.640
So we're optimistic that it's
gonna be effective means
02:08:32.640 --> 02:08:35.860
by which we can get this message out
02:08:35.860 --> 02:08:38.720
of the traditional
capability that exists.
02:08:38.720 --> 02:08:41.490
I know you will not be
able to remain this afternoon
02:08:41.490 --> 02:08:43.987
but I know you have
a colleague who will be
02:08:43.987 --> 02:08:46.100
and I think that this
should be something
02:08:46.100 --> 02:08:48.230
that is talked about there,
02:08:48.230 --> 02:08:50.580
we might ask the question of the panel.
02:08:50.580 --> 02:08:54.180
If they have awareness of how,
02:08:54.180 --> 02:08:57.230
if the access and
functional needs community
02:08:57.230 --> 02:08:59.240
is indeed an of an understanding
02:08:59.240 --> 02:09:01.570
that this is how they
can get address alert.
02:09:01.570 --> 02:09:06.570
So that's really critical for
many to be very aware of that,
02:09:07.610 --> 02:09:09.700
important access.
02:09:09.700 --> 02:09:12.810
So next question of PG&E?
02:09:16.760 --> 02:09:19.480
This is Commissioner
Rechtschaffen.
02:09:19.480 --> 02:09:23.550
We continue to hear
a lot of dissatisfaction
02:09:23.550 --> 02:09:26.640
from the access and
functional needs community
02:09:26.640 --> 02:09:30.170
about many people who do not
have access to backup batteries
02:09:30.170 --> 02:09:31.593
or other equipment.
02:09:32.680 --> 02:09:36.850
PG&E has fallen short
in getting that equipment
02:09:36.850 --> 02:09:39.210
to customers over the past year or two.
02:09:39.210 --> 02:09:43.360
Last year, COVID was of
course, a very important concern.
02:09:43.360 --> 02:09:44.820
You said your intent is
02:09:44.820 --> 02:09:47.850
to provide 5,000 additional
batteries either directly
02:09:47.850 --> 02:09:50.718
or through third party
customers this year.
02:09:50.718 --> 02:09:54.300
Is there any reason that
you can't do that for sure,
02:09:54.300 --> 02:09:57.540
is there any reason why
that can't be something
02:09:57.540 --> 02:09:59.603
that absolutely is
done this time around?
02:10:00.790 --> 02:10:03.450
So thank you Commissioner.
02:10:03.450 --> 02:10:06.910
I Apologize if I gave you
the sentiment that the intent,
02:10:06.910 --> 02:10:08.450
we are committed to doing that
02:10:08.450 --> 02:10:11.820
and we will deliver upon that commitment
02:10:11.820 --> 02:10:16.820
of the incremental
5,000 for a total of 11,500.
02:10:17.150 --> 02:10:20.300
Again, with the objective of ensuring
02:10:20.300 --> 02:10:23.340
that every low income
Medical Baseline customer
02:10:23.340 --> 02:10:27.570
that would like access to one
has the ability to get access
02:10:27.570 --> 02:10:29.450
to a portable battery.
02:10:29.450 --> 02:10:31.780
We have four different
options of portable batteries,
02:10:31.780 --> 02:10:34.680
we work with the
community-based organizations
02:10:34.680 --> 02:10:37.450
to understand the
specific needs for each
02:10:37.450 --> 02:10:39.340
of the Medical Baseline customers
02:10:39.340 --> 02:10:43.360
because each of them
is using the battery
02:10:43.360 --> 02:10:45.710
and electricity for a different device
02:10:45.710 --> 02:10:48.360
and the power
consumption varies as well,
02:10:48.360 --> 02:10:51.880
which is why we have different
sizes of portable batteries.
02:10:51.880 --> 02:10:53.490
The community-based organizations
02:10:53.490 --> 02:10:56.620
like the California Foundation
of Independent Living Centers
02:10:56.620 --> 02:10:59.070
helps us do those assessments
02:10:59.070 --> 02:11:01.707
and we make available
the portable batteries
02:11:01.707 --> 02:11:03.500
and we will make those available
02:11:04.360 --> 02:11:06.817
and that's a commitment from us
02:11:06.817 --> 02:11:09.067
but that's not the
intent, that will be done.
02:11:11.980 --> 02:11:15.190
How about a couple more
questions so we can get
02:11:15.190 --> 02:11:17.223
into our public comment period.
02:11:22.840 --> 02:11:24.020
Any other questions?
02:11:24.020 --> 02:11:24.853
Go ahead.
02:11:26.100 --> 02:11:28.310
You had mentioned
that you have a program
02:11:28.310 --> 02:11:31.620
for backup generation for well pumping?
02:11:31.620 --> 02:11:34.220
Could you just briefly
describe that and confirm
02:11:34.220 --> 02:11:35.900
that those would be
batteries and what type
02:11:35.900 --> 02:11:38.100
of outreach you're doing
to those customers?
02:11:39.800 --> 02:11:44.040
Yeah, so we've got a soft
generator incentive program
02:11:44.040 --> 02:11:45.060
for that.
02:11:45.060 --> 02:11:50.060
There's about 3,200 plus
applications that we have received
02:11:50.910 --> 02:11:55.770
and there's, depending on
the respective income levels
02:11:55.770 --> 02:11:58.610
as well for some of
the customers that rely
02:11:58.610 --> 02:12:03.610
on well pump is a greater
incentive that's provided.
02:12:03.990 --> 02:12:07.760
It depends on a customer
by customer basis.
02:12:07.760 --> 02:12:09.350
We have done, last time I checked
02:12:09.350 --> 02:12:14.320
more than 450
interconnections associated
02:12:14.320 --> 02:12:16.770
with that specific program.
02:12:16.770 --> 02:12:21.638
So it is a pilot program
that we initiated in 2020
02:12:21.638 --> 02:12:24.960
and we're looking to
continue to ramp that up going
02:12:24.960 --> 02:12:29.960
into 2021 so that our customers
who may not have access
02:12:30.580 --> 02:12:35.580
and are relying on well
pumps for the purposes of water
02:12:36.040 --> 02:12:40.400
and wastewater really
that's the intended focus
02:12:40.400 --> 02:12:42.580
of that specific program,
02:12:42.580 --> 02:12:45.770
which obviously is completely separate
02:12:45.770 --> 02:12:49.700
from the backup generation
programs that we have related
02:12:49.700 --> 02:12:51.020
to our Medical Baseline customers
02:12:51.020 --> 02:12:54.440
or what we call our SGF
equity resiliency programs,
02:12:54.440 --> 02:12:57.140
so those are two completely
separate programs
02:12:57.140 --> 02:12:58.543
for that intended purpose.
02:13:01.628 --> 02:13:02.461
Thank you.
02:13:02.461 --> 02:13:04.861
Thank you for the detailed
presentation as well.
02:13:05.720 --> 02:13:07.393
Okay, one more question.
02:13:10.461 --> 02:13:12.628
Okay, thank you Shiroma.
02:13:14.174 --> 02:13:15.007
So this has to do with
rotation management,
02:13:15.007 --> 02:13:20.007
and your public phasing,
commitment and programs,
02:13:21.036 --> 02:13:26.036
are programs that we've approved.
02:13:26.850 --> 02:13:30.640
My question is what is the progress
02:13:30.640 --> 02:13:34.660
and do you have crews up there
02:13:36.744 --> 02:13:40.033
and will be out there right up to and
02:13:41.870 --> 02:13:44.110
through the high fire season
02:13:45.220 --> 02:13:46.850
conducting vegetation management
02:13:46.850 --> 02:13:50.153
across your utility wide efforts?
02:13:52.260 --> 02:13:54.200
Thank you Commissioner
for that question.
02:13:54.200 --> 02:13:56.730
I think you may be aware
02:13:56.730 --> 02:13:58.630
of our vegetation management program.
02:13:58.630 --> 02:14:00.900
It's three parts to that program,
02:14:00.900 --> 02:14:03.790
one is a program that
maintains minimum clearance,
02:14:03.790 --> 02:14:07.100
which we've had in
place for multiple decades.
02:14:07.100 --> 02:14:09.160
Second element is the
tree mortality program,
02:14:09.160 --> 02:14:12.000
which we implemented in
2014 as a result of the drought
02:14:12.860 --> 02:14:15.270
and the significant number of
dead diamond deceased trees
02:14:15.270 --> 02:14:16.940
that we were seeing
in our service territory
02:14:16.940 --> 02:14:20.910
and then the third program
that on-ramp in 2019 goes above
02:14:20.910 --> 02:14:23.290
and beyond those two programs,
02:14:23.290 --> 02:14:25.410
which is really our enhanced
vegetation management
02:14:25.410 --> 02:14:29.640
to remove all the overhang as
well as do a hazard assessment
02:14:29.640 --> 02:14:32.390
for every single strike potential tree.
02:14:32.390 --> 02:14:34.210
Since the implementation of that program
02:14:34.210 --> 02:14:39.210
in 2019, we have completed
4,500, more than 4,500 miles
02:14:39.410 --> 02:14:43.050
of our 25,500 miles
of distribution lines
02:14:43.050 --> 02:14:45.540
that traverse the high
fire threat districts.
02:14:45.540 --> 02:14:50.255
In our 2021 WMP we
have a minimum forecast
02:14:50.255 --> 02:14:55.220
of doing 1800 miles or
more on a risk-based basis.
02:14:55.220 --> 02:14:58.620
So we're continuing to
focus on the highest risk areas
02:14:58.620 --> 02:15:01.660
and that's the pace that we
have established going forward.
02:15:01.660 --> 02:15:03.930
Over the last couple
of years, Commissioner,
02:15:03.930 --> 02:15:05.770
we have more than doubled the number
02:15:05.770 --> 02:15:08.630
of vegetation management
resources that are focused
02:15:08.630 --> 02:15:12.220
on removing and clearing vegetation away
02:15:12.220 --> 02:15:13.210
from our power lines
02:15:13.210 --> 02:15:16.060
as well as identifying
those potential hazard trees
02:15:16.060 --> 02:15:19.360
that could fall into our
line on a preventative basis.
02:15:19.360 --> 02:15:22.910
So we have crews working
across our service territory
02:15:22.910 --> 02:15:25.460
at the moment as we speak
and they're gonna continue
02:15:25.460 --> 02:15:28.660
to do so throughout the entire year.
02:15:28.660 --> 02:15:29.800
And in instances,
02:15:29.800 --> 02:15:34.530
in cases where we
forecast a high fire risk,
02:15:34.530 --> 02:15:37.740
we will stand down our
vegetation management teams
02:15:37.740 --> 02:15:41.630
for that day, two or
three days time period so
02:15:41.630 --> 02:15:45.220
that we're further
reducing the operational risk
02:15:45.220 --> 02:15:48.140
of a potential ignition
that may occur as a result
02:15:48.140 --> 02:15:50.500
of vegetation management
work being performed.
02:15:50.500 --> 02:15:55.500
But we have more than 4,500
qualified tree crew personnel
02:15:55.760 --> 02:15:58.700
and certified arborist
and registered arborist
02:15:58.700 --> 02:16:02.470
within our service
territory at any given point
02:16:02.470 --> 02:16:05.833
that are doing the work
on a continued basis.
02:16:07.520 --> 02:16:08.353
Thank you.
02:16:09.810 --> 02:16:10.643
The pleasure.
02:16:10.643 --> 02:16:15.200
Okay, thank you to
PG&E for your presentation,
02:16:16.680 --> 02:16:18.835
appreciate it very much.
02:16:18.835 --> 02:16:23.450
I'm going to move now on
to the public comment period
02:16:23.450 --> 02:16:26.750
of our day.
02:16:26.750 --> 02:16:30.570
And as I said earlier, we will not cut
02:16:30.570 --> 02:16:32.900
into the public comment period.
02:16:32.900 --> 02:16:37.300
We will have the planned
amount of time as we did prior
02:16:37.300 --> 02:16:39.440
to running over time.
02:16:39.440 --> 02:16:43.970
So we will have time
for public comment period
02:16:43.970 --> 02:16:47.343
until approximately 12:20.
02:16:49.890 --> 02:16:52.220
Okay, if you wish to
make a public comment,
02:16:52.220 --> 02:16:57.220
dial 8008571917 and enter
the passcode 5180519#
02:17:02.630 --> 02:17:06.370
and press *1 to be placed into the queue
02:17:06.370 --> 02:17:08.350
and the operator will take your name
02:17:08.350 --> 02:17:10.340
and information if appropriate.
02:17:10.340 --> 02:17:12.170
If you have already dialed
02:17:12.170 --> 02:17:14.240
into the public comment telephone line,
02:17:14.240 --> 02:17:19.240
please press *1 to get into
the public comment queue.
02:17:19.740 --> 02:17:21.910
You will have two minutes to speak.
02:17:21.910 --> 02:17:25.020
Please adhere to two minutes.
02:17:25.020 --> 02:17:29.300
You will hear a bell sound, a
chime when your time is up.
02:17:29.300 --> 02:17:33.950
So please listen for that
bell when your time is up.
02:17:33.950 --> 02:17:36.810
Please be mindful of the
other speakers that are
02:17:36.810 --> 02:17:37.743
in the queue.
02:17:39.030 --> 02:17:42.407
You'll have met interests
for everyone to speak today
02:17:42.407 --> 02:17:44.720
and I wanna give
everybody the opportunity.
02:17:44.720 --> 02:17:47.683
So please be mindful
of the two minutes limit.
02:17:49.150 --> 02:17:50.703
With that guidance in mind,
02:17:51.710 --> 02:17:54.620
I welcome today's speaker
and I will now turn back
02:17:54.620 --> 02:17:55.800
to the operator
02:17:55.800 --> 02:17:59.260
to open the public comment
telephone line, operator.
02:17:59.260 --> 02:18:00.093
Thank you.
02:18:00.093 --> 02:18:01.940
Our first public comment
comes from Joseph Mitchell.
02:18:01.940 --> 02:18:02.853
Your line is open.
02:18:03.950 --> 02:18:07.000
Good morning,
I've a quick concern
02:18:07.000 --> 02:18:08.283
and then a question.
02:18:09.450 --> 02:18:13.230
Utilities are trying to
incorporate climate change
02:18:13.230 --> 02:18:15.630
into their long-term plans.
02:18:15.630 --> 02:18:19.290
SDG&E today presented some evidence
02:18:19.290 --> 02:18:22.170
that winds are trending stronger.
02:18:22.170 --> 02:18:26.570
Unusually strong winds have
also anecdotally been observed
02:18:26.570 --> 02:18:29.630
in Northern California
in the last few years.
02:18:29.630 --> 02:18:33.620
However, to my knowledge,
there's no research calling
02:18:33.620 --> 02:18:36.950
for Santa Ana or Diablo
winds to strengthen.
02:18:36.950 --> 02:18:40.690
In fact, current research
suggests that the winds are going
02:18:40.690 --> 02:18:43.880
to weaken even if
overall fire risk increases
02:18:43.880 --> 02:18:46.310
with the length of the fire season.
02:18:46.310 --> 02:18:51.080
So if these measured
trends are significant,
02:18:51.080 --> 02:18:54.580
there may be something that
we don't understand going on
02:18:54.580 --> 02:18:56.030
in the climate models.
02:18:56.030 --> 02:18:57.790
If that's true
02:18:57.790 --> 02:19:01.060
and the utilities are using
these standard climate models
02:19:01.060 --> 02:19:03.000
to predict future risk,
02:19:03.000 --> 02:19:05.320
they may be under
predicting high wind risk.
02:19:05.320 --> 02:19:07.920
So that's something to
watch and be concerned about.
02:19:09.640 --> 02:19:12.220
Now, when I looked at
the wildfire mitigation plans,
02:19:12.220 --> 02:19:14.560
I don't see any long-term vision or plan
02:19:14.560 --> 02:19:17.580
to eliminate power shutoff.
02:19:17.580 --> 02:19:20.440
What sort of changes or
technologies would need
02:19:20.440 --> 02:19:23.580
to be deployed to
eliminate customer impacts,
02:19:23.580 --> 02:19:27.760
are these new technologies
hardening or a continuation
02:19:27.760 --> 02:19:28.593
of current programs or are Californians,
02:19:28.593 --> 02:19:33.439
stuck with power
shutoff forever, thank you.
02:19:36.870 --> 02:19:38.040
Thank you, Mr. Mitchell.
02:19:38.040 --> 02:19:39.373
The next caller, please.
02:19:41.600 --> 02:19:42.960
Next we have Will Abram,
02:19:42.960 --> 02:19:43.860
your line is open.
02:19:46.030 --> 02:19:47.460
Thank you very much.
02:19:47.460 --> 02:19:49.440
Thank you to the
panelists for participating
02:19:49.440 --> 02:19:51.380
in this important meeting.
02:19:51.380 --> 02:19:54.130
As a wildfire survivor and
apparently its proceeding,
02:19:54.130 --> 02:19:56.530
I'm increasingly
concerned that the political
02:19:56.530 --> 02:19:59.490
and financial pressure to
reduce the size and the scope
02:19:59.490 --> 02:20:03.430
of these PSPS events will
increase the size and scope
02:20:03.430 --> 02:20:06.020
of wildfires within your territories
02:20:06.020 --> 02:20:07.860
because the right quality controls are
02:20:07.860 --> 02:20:10.310
not being sufficiently leveraged.
02:20:10.310 --> 02:20:13.740
As an example, the innovative
use of drones and helicopters
02:20:13.740 --> 02:20:17.170
to increase the speed of
inspections before we reenergize,
02:20:17.170 --> 02:20:20.170
instead of leveraging more
on the ground field inspections
02:20:20.170 --> 02:20:23.960
of the lines or crowdsourcing
these activities is
02:20:23.960 --> 02:20:26.560
often cited as an advancement
02:20:26.560 --> 02:20:29.660
but if that is at the expense of safety,
02:20:29.660 --> 02:20:32.470
I know we would agree
that is not a fair trade.
02:20:32.470 --> 02:20:35.710
Additionally, I'm concerned
that the utilities refuse
02:20:35.710 --> 02:20:38.390
to recognize and address their failures
02:20:38.390 --> 02:20:42.150
that occur when poor
de-energization decisions collide
02:20:42.150 --> 02:20:44.320
with catastrophic wildfires.
02:20:44.320 --> 02:20:45.917
It can Kate Fire, the Zogg fire,
02:20:45.917 --> 02:20:49.260
and potentially the Glass
Fire are all catastrophes
02:20:49.260 --> 02:20:53.140
that should be lessons learned in terms
02:20:53.140 --> 02:20:55.960
of how we make
de-energization decisions.
02:20:55.960 --> 02:20:58.470
Nowhere within your
wildfire mitigation plans
02:20:58.470 --> 02:21:02.330
are these fires and failures
mentioned, let alone addressed.
02:21:02.330 --> 02:21:04.410
How can we see progress in your plans
02:21:04.410 --> 02:21:07.550
to address de-energization
in a thoughtful manner
02:21:07.550 --> 02:21:10.980
if we won't even map the
failures from those decisions
02:21:10.980 --> 02:21:15.040
to how you are managing
PSPS events in the future.
02:21:15.040 --> 02:21:16.300
PG&E has stated
02:21:16.300 --> 02:21:19.480
that one reason they have
not addressed these issues is
02:21:19.480 --> 02:21:22.850
that the reports from CAL
FIRE have not been released.
02:21:22.850 --> 02:21:25.640
I am glad Chief Porter
is present here today
02:21:25.640 --> 02:21:28.180
but I would like to understand
the panelists perspective
02:21:28.180 --> 02:21:31.320
on how the lack of release
of the CAL FIRE reports
02:21:31.320 --> 02:21:34.610
to apparently protect
the integrity of criminal
02:21:34.610 --> 02:21:38.520
and civil proceedings is
getting in the way of our progress
02:21:38.520 --> 02:21:41.120
on the management of de-energization
02:21:41.120 --> 02:21:43.000
in the important public safety matters
02:21:43.000 --> 02:21:44.700
before the Commission.
02:21:44.700 --> 02:21:48.430
These reports contain an
important evidentiary record
02:21:48.430 --> 02:21:49.263
that we need
02:21:49.263 --> 02:21:53.610
to improve how we manage
de-energization decisions
02:21:53.610 --> 02:21:54.793
and keep our residents.
02:21:55.660 --> 02:21:59.570
How do we continue to
justify the lack of transparency?
02:21:59.570 --> 02:22:01.870
The Kincade Fire was two years ago,
02:22:01.870 --> 02:22:04.660
We don't have the report
and we don't have its findings
02:22:04.660 --> 02:22:06.660
represented in your plans.
02:22:06.660 --> 02:22:07.613
How can we infuse our
safety by not (indistinct)
02:22:07.613 --> 02:22:08.446
(loud dinging)
02:22:11.790 --> 02:22:14.617
How can we feel assured in your state--
02:22:17.330 --> 02:22:20.700
Mr. Abrams, I'm
sorry, but your time is up.
02:22:20.700 --> 02:22:22.750
We appreciate your comments.
02:22:22.750 --> 02:22:24.290
Thank you.
02:22:24.290 --> 02:22:25.990
Operator the
next caller please.
02:22:26.880 --> 02:22:28.570
Thank you, next
we have Melissa Kasnitz,
02:22:28.570 --> 02:22:29.470
your line is open.
02:22:32.180 --> 02:22:33.013
Thank you.
02:22:33.013 --> 02:22:34.770
This is Melissa Kasnitz with the center
02:22:34.770 --> 02:22:37.260
for accessible
technology, an active party
02:22:37.260 --> 02:22:38.403
in this proceeding.
02:22:39.320 --> 02:22:43.830
I would like to discuss the
process for moving away
02:22:43.830 --> 02:22:46.290
from deliberate power shutoffs entirely
02:22:46.290 --> 02:22:49.823
as a fire risk strategy.
02:22:50.810 --> 02:22:53.430
Well, we want any
events that take place to be
02:22:53.430 --> 02:22:58.430
as safe as possible for CforAT
has concerns about the risk
02:22:58.720 --> 02:23:01.210
of normalizing power shutoffs
02:23:01.210 --> 02:23:03.160
as just another utility program
02:23:03.160 --> 02:23:04.610
that will go on indefinitely.
02:23:05.720 --> 02:23:06.830
The reports that we're getting
02:23:06.830 --> 02:23:09.980
from the utilities do not appear
to be showing a move away
02:23:09.980 --> 02:23:12.020
from reliance on shut-offs,
02:23:12.020 --> 02:23:14.920
but this move away from
a power outages needs
02:23:14.920 --> 02:23:17.120
to remain a priority.
02:23:17.120 --> 02:23:20.283
In 2018, when this
proceeding was first initiated,
02:23:21.420 --> 02:23:24.330
the utilities made a prediction
that outages would last
02:23:24.330 --> 02:23:27.940
for a period of 10 years
and that was shocking.
02:23:27.940 --> 02:23:29.970
Now it seems like
they're being integrated
02:23:29.970 --> 02:23:33.483
as an ongoing activity by the utility.
02:23:34.950 --> 02:23:37.520
The Commission needs
to be pushing the utilities
02:23:37.520 --> 02:23:40.800
to phase down reliance on power outages
02:23:40.800 --> 02:23:44.320
within the 10 year timeline
that was predicted back in 2018,
02:23:44.320 --> 02:23:45.963
if not sooner, thank you.
02:23:48.450 --> 02:23:52.290
Thank you, operator,
the next caller please.
02:23:52.290 --> 02:23:53.750
Thank you,
next we have Hond,
02:23:53.750 --> 02:23:55.220
your line is open.
02:23:55.220 --> 02:23:56.240
Thank you and good morning.
02:23:56.240 --> 02:23:57.860
Thank you for listening to us.
02:23:57.860 --> 02:24:01.177
I was the only citizen
intervener in the monitorization
02:24:01.177 --> 02:24:04.280
of go 95 titles four
more than a decade ago.
02:24:04.280 --> 02:24:05.370
In that effort we learned
02:24:05.370 --> 02:24:08.260
of a San Diego Gas
and Electric pilot program
02:24:08.260 --> 02:24:09.144
where fewer than 50
customers in the back country
02:24:09.144 --> 02:24:13.370
were put into an
intentional shutoff area,
02:24:13.370 --> 02:24:14.305
they were given generators
in exchange for SDG&E
02:24:14.305 --> 02:24:19.305
getting power to cut off
their power during high winds.
02:24:19.360 --> 02:24:21.020
After the Santa Rosa disaster,
02:24:21.020 --> 02:24:23.260
the CPUC began considering a proposal
02:24:23.260 --> 02:24:28.260
to allow SDG&E type PSPS
blackouts in all IOU areas.
02:24:28.730 --> 02:24:31.910
But you need to know that your
docket office made a mistake.
02:24:31.910 --> 02:24:34.180
LHRA was incorrectly noticed
02:24:34.180 --> 02:24:36.480
as affecting San Diego County only.
02:24:36.480 --> 02:24:38.400
It went to the wrong mailing list.
02:24:38.400 --> 02:24:42.000
Nobody in SCE or PGE territory knew
02:24:42.000 --> 02:24:43.900
that PSPSs were coming
02:24:43.900 --> 02:24:46.960
and when this Commission
approved them in 2018,
02:24:46.960 --> 02:24:49.620
I was the only person saying,
02:24:49.620 --> 02:24:52.040
there may be a time when
you need to turn off the power
02:24:52.040 --> 02:24:54.510
but we need to look
at this very carefully.
02:24:54.510 --> 02:24:55.990
The project that was approved,
02:24:55.990 --> 02:25:00.530
that your initial PSPS proposal
took advantage of the fact
02:25:00.530 --> 02:25:03.010
that nobody was asked
for their comments.
02:25:03.010 --> 02:25:06.410
In fact, the power companies
took out the requirement
02:25:06.410 --> 02:25:07.960
that San Diego gas was living with,
02:25:07.960 --> 02:25:09.640
San Diego Gas and Electric
02:25:09.640 --> 02:25:11.830
that they mitigate their outages.
02:25:11.830 --> 02:25:14.130
They said nobody wanted mitigation.
02:25:14.130 --> 02:25:15.990
That's because nobody knew about it.
02:25:15.990 --> 02:25:19.010
So because of that, a
very small pilot program
02:25:19.010 --> 02:25:20.820
in the back country of San Diego
02:25:20.820 --> 02:25:22.510
that included full mitigation
02:25:22.510 --> 02:25:25.580
for these came became
a Statewide program
02:25:25.580 --> 02:25:27.470
with no mitigation.
02:25:27.470 --> 02:25:31.040
The IOUs have also plunged
headfirst into a program
02:25:31.040 --> 02:25:33.700
with almost no public accountability.
02:25:33.700 --> 02:25:36.650
We, the public have no
metrics by which to judge
02:25:36.650 --> 02:25:40.750
whether our power getting
shut off or warnings of PSPS's
02:25:40.750 --> 02:25:43.520
We have no way to know
if these are accurate or not.
02:25:43.520 --> 02:25:46.850
They say our weather forecasters
are predicting high winds.
02:25:46.850 --> 02:25:49.090
They don't issue their weather forecast.
02:25:49.090 --> 02:25:50.930
We know what the winds are.
02:25:50.930 --> 02:25:52.260
Oftentimes they're much,
02:25:52.260 --> 02:25:55.220
much below what we think are justifiable
02:25:55.220 --> 02:25:56.750
to turn the power off.
02:25:56.750 --> 02:26:00.650
We cannot judge from
the reports that SDG&E files
02:26:00.650 --> 02:26:01.750
with the state
02:26:01.750 --> 02:26:05.373
whether each individual
PSPS event was justified.
02:26:06.630 --> 02:26:08.427
And I thank you for listening.
02:26:10.090 --> 02:26:11.880
Thank you for your call.
02:26:11.880 --> 02:26:13.580
Operator, the next caller, please.
02:26:19.940 --> 02:26:21.640
Operator, the next caller, please.
02:26:27.340 --> 02:26:28.259
President Batjer.
02:26:28.259 --> 02:26:29.500
This is Rechtschaffen
02:26:29.500 --> 02:26:32.000
You're not showing any
other callers at this time.
02:26:33.530 --> 02:26:36.933
Okay, thank you
very much, Robert.
02:26:38.970 --> 02:26:42.090
With no more callers on the line
02:26:42.090 --> 02:26:47.090
that will end the public
comment period of the meeting.
02:26:49.950 --> 02:26:52.353
I will ask if there are
any other questions
02:26:52.353 --> 02:26:56.830
from the Commissioners
since we still have some time left
02:26:56.830 --> 02:26:58.927
because I think a couple of
Commissioners had raised a hand
02:26:58.927 --> 02:27:00.577
and I didn't get to call on them.
02:27:01.690 --> 02:27:03.870
Perhaps we still have representatives
02:27:03.870 --> 02:27:05.660
on the line who can answer question.
02:27:05.660 --> 02:27:08.720
Are there any other questions
from the dais at this time
02:27:08.720 --> 02:27:12.273
that I cut off because of
our time constraint earlier?
02:27:18.780 --> 02:27:19.980
Okay, seeing none
02:27:22.400 --> 02:27:25.760
that will take us to our lunch break.
02:27:25.760 --> 02:27:30.570
We will start at 1:00 PM with the access
02:27:30.570 --> 02:27:32.720
and functional needs round table.
02:27:32.720 --> 02:27:35.250
We will have representatives of,
02:27:35.250 --> 02:27:40.250
senior executive representatives
of all of the IOUs present
02:27:40.317 --> 02:27:43.910
for this afternoon
sessions, both round tables.
02:27:43.910 --> 02:27:46.590
So see you all at one o'clock promptly.
02:27:46.590 --> 02:27:47.473
Thank you all.
02:27:50.570 --> 02:27:52.530
This is the
conference operator.
02:27:52.530 --> 02:27:54.193
President Batjer, you may begin.
02:27:55.230 --> 02:27:56.690
Thank you very much.
02:27:56.690 --> 02:28:00.510
And everyone welcome back
to the joint IOUs workshop
02:28:00.510 --> 02:28:03.013
on the 2020 Public
Safety Power Shutoff event.
02:28:04.670 --> 02:28:08.770
I wanna thank you all for
your participation this morning.
02:28:08.770 --> 02:28:13.130
And as I mentioned earlier,
our first round table will be
02:28:13.130 --> 02:28:16.720
with the access and functional
needs community followed
02:28:16.720 --> 02:28:20.161
by a round table with the
impacted local government
02:28:20.161 --> 02:28:24.420
and tribal governments
from across the state followed
02:28:24.420 --> 02:28:25.950
by public comment.
02:28:25.950 --> 02:28:27.750
We will have public comment at the end
02:28:27.750 --> 02:28:29.693
of those two round tables.
02:28:30.580 --> 02:28:34.520
I do want to, before
I introduce the panel,
02:28:34.520 --> 02:28:38.990
I do want to tell those
who are participating,
02:28:38.990 --> 02:28:43.990
that we have senior leadership
from the IOUs and also
02:28:44.160 --> 02:28:48.590
from Edison who did
not present this morning
02:28:48.590 --> 02:28:51.360
but presented earlier in the winter.
02:28:51.360 --> 02:28:56.360
So they will be listening in
and so I wanted you all to know
02:28:57.280 --> 02:29:00.270
that we have SDG&E, the spokesman
02:29:00.270 --> 02:29:02.223
and other subject matter experts.
02:29:03.100 --> 02:29:06.790
Kevin Payne, the CEO
of Edison and from TG
02:29:06.790 --> 02:29:10.490
have Laurie Giammona,
SVP of customer care.
02:29:10.490 --> 02:29:12.790
There are other representatives
from the companies as well
02:29:12.790 --> 02:29:16.110
but I wanted to underscore
that they are participate
02:29:16.110 --> 02:29:19.653
or will be on the line this
afternoon and listening in.
02:29:20.520 --> 02:29:23.660
The first panel will be 90 minutes.
02:29:23.660 --> 02:29:26.893
I will now turn to the moderators
for our first round table.
02:29:27.790 --> 02:29:29.160
David VAn Dyken
02:29:29.160 --> 02:29:32.070
from the California
Public Utilities Commission
02:29:32.070 --> 02:29:35.310
and van Taylor from Cal OES.
02:29:35.310 --> 02:29:39.243
David and Vance, could you
introduce the panel and begin.
02:29:52.190 --> 02:29:55.813
I got a text from David
for the camp on mute.
02:29:58.550 --> 02:30:00.300
Robert, do you want to step in
02:30:00.300 --> 02:30:02.000
and see if you can help David out.
02:30:16.554 --> 02:30:18.304
President Batjer.
02:30:20.050 --> 02:30:21.200
Can you get David on?
02:30:23.500 --> 02:30:25.813
He has video but not any audio.
02:30:35.756 --> 02:30:39.183
President Batjer,
Van Dyken is on mute.
02:30:46.050 --> 02:30:47.600
We're not hearing him Robert.
02:30:52.127 --> 02:30:54.940
Dyken, we believe that
you might be self muted
02:30:54.940 --> 02:30:55.773
on your end.
02:30:58.660 --> 02:30:59.683
Your computer.
02:31:03.477 --> 02:31:06.493
Hi, can you hear me now?
Yes.
02:31:07.350 --> 02:31:09.010
All right, awesome.
02:31:09.010 --> 02:31:13.290
Sorry, I have the issues with the phone.
02:31:13.290 --> 02:31:14.950
Sorry about that.
02:31:14.950 --> 02:31:17.820
So, hello everybody.
02:31:17.820 --> 02:31:19.150
My name is David van Dyken,
02:31:19.150 --> 02:31:23.100
I am the acting access and
functional needs coordinator
02:31:23.100 --> 02:31:26.210
at the California Public
Utilities Commission.
02:31:26.210 --> 02:31:29.400
I wanna thank everybody for
their entrance and attendance
02:31:29.400 --> 02:31:32.173
at today's access and
functional needs round table.
02:31:33.736 --> 02:31:37.600
For a round table
panelists are comprised
02:31:37.600 --> 02:31:39.720
of the executive directors,
02:31:39.720 --> 02:31:43.480
different Statewide
organizations to advocate for
02:31:43.480 --> 02:31:47.593
and support a wide variety
of ASN people in California.
02:31:48.690 --> 02:31:51.580
The AFN round table
will be an opportunity
02:31:51.580 --> 02:31:55.410
for our four panelists to
ask questions and engage
02:31:55.410 --> 02:31:56.870
in conversation directly
02:31:56.870 --> 02:32:01.870
with executive level
representatives at Pacific Power,
02:32:02.120 --> 02:32:05.220
PG&E, Southern California Edison,
02:32:05.220 --> 02:32:10.113
and SDG&E regarding Public
Safety Power Shutoff issues.
02:32:13.287 --> 02:32:15.880
I mean, minutes will be
allotted for this question
02:32:15.880 --> 02:32:19.020
and answer period and
we'll conclude at 2:30.
02:32:19.020 --> 02:32:24.020
I will be a co-facilitator
for this round table,
02:32:24.060 --> 02:32:27.050
L Vance Taylor from the
California Governor's office
02:32:27.050 --> 02:32:31.633
of emergency services
will assist me in facilitation.
02:32:32.710 --> 02:32:34.653
Just a quick note about Lance,
02:32:38.405 --> 02:32:41.090
well, we use Vance Taylor
is the chief of the office
02:32:41.090 --> 02:32:43.743
of access and functional
needs at Cal OES.
02:32:44.613 --> 02:32:48.200
Vance is responsible for
ensuring the needs of individuals
02:32:48.200 --> 02:32:50.770
with disabilities and
persons with access
02:32:50.770 --> 02:32:54.730
and functional needs
are identified before,
02:32:54.730 --> 02:32:58.040
during and after
disasters and integrated
02:32:58.040 --> 02:33:03.040
into the state's emergency
management systems.
02:33:04.070 --> 02:33:07.470
Vance was born and raised
in the San Francisco Bay area.
02:33:07.470 --> 02:33:11.780
Vance was diagnosed
with a much more dystrophy
02:33:11.780 --> 02:33:14.870
as a child and uses a
powered wheelchair.
02:33:14.870 --> 02:33:17.590
He has worked in
Washington DC as an advisor
02:33:17.590 --> 02:33:19.920
for two different members of Congress,
02:33:19.920 --> 02:33:24.920
directed 63 policy at
National Water Association
02:33:25.620 --> 02:33:28.620
and been a principal at the
top ranks homeland security
02:33:28.620 --> 02:33:31.263
and emergency
management consulting firm.
02:33:35.084 --> 02:33:38.150
Vance is a nationally
recognized public speaker
02:33:38.150 --> 02:33:41.470
and advocate for
individuals with disabilities.
02:33:41.470 --> 02:33:44.010
Vance also has a master's
degree in Homeland Security
02:33:44.010 --> 02:33:46.390
from the University of Connecticut
02:33:46.390 --> 02:33:48.160
and an undergraduate degree
02:33:48.160 --> 02:33:52.973
from Brigham Young
University and Communications.
02:33:54.470 --> 02:33:57.220
He is married to his sweetheart Casey,
02:33:57.220 --> 02:34:00.620
and they have two wonderful daughters.
02:34:00.620 --> 02:34:05.620
Vance and his family live in
Rancho Cordova, California.
02:34:06.090 --> 02:34:09.463
Vance do you want to add any than that?
02:34:10.970 --> 02:34:11.803
Oh, thanks everyone,
02:34:11.803 --> 02:34:14.353
I need to take you with
me everywhere I go.
02:34:14.353 --> 02:34:17.436
(chuckles softly)
02:34:18.872 --> 02:34:19.705
So, good afternoon,
02:34:19.705 --> 02:34:22.210
I wanna start by
thanking President Batjer
02:34:22.210 --> 02:34:26.680
and CPUC Commissioners
for organizing this workshop
02:34:27.885 --> 02:34:30.150
and for your commitment
to the integration
02:34:30.150 --> 02:34:32.753
of access and functional needs.
02:34:33.710 --> 02:34:35.780
I took them PSPS events and everything
02:34:35.780 --> 02:34:39.253
that the Commission is responsible for.
02:34:40.730 --> 02:34:42.530
I would say my name is Vance Taylor,
02:34:43.650 --> 02:34:44.683
and I'm the chief of the office
02:34:44.683 --> 02:34:48.483
of access and functional
needs at Cal OES
02:34:50.020 --> 02:34:55.020
and my role in this because
historically as a nation,
02:34:57.280 --> 02:34:59.390
there have been significant gaps
02:35:00.300 --> 02:35:05.300
in how emergency managers
plan, prepare, respond and recover
02:35:06.960 --> 02:35:07.983
from the bachelors.
02:35:08.990 --> 02:35:12.273
With regards to the access
and functional needs perspective.
02:35:13.560 --> 02:35:16.140
And this is an issue
that was really highlighted
02:35:17.460 --> 02:35:18.710
during Hurricane Katrina.
02:35:20.070 --> 02:35:23.863
It's fair that we saw it out
of everyone who perished,
02:35:25.264 --> 02:35:28.573
70% of everyone that died had an access
02:35:28.573 --> 02:35:29.773
or a functional need.
02:35:31.210 --> 02:35:35.123
So recognizing that
individuals with disabilities,
02:35:36.300 --> 02:35:39.705
older adults and all people with access
02:35:39.705 --> 02:35:44.705
for functional needs are
disproportionately impacted before,
02:35:46.060 --> 02:35:51.060
during and after all disasters
not just during major ones.
02:35:52.282 --> 02:35:54.932
California certainly need
to get ahead of this issue.
02:35:55.810 --> 02:36:00.210
So in 2008, California leaned forward
02:36:01.060 --> 02:36:04.850
and created the
nation's first ever office
02:36:04.850 --> 02:36:06.400
of access and functional needs.
02:36:07.620 --> 02:36:10.043
As chief, I'm appointed by the Governor.
02:36:11.110 --> 02:36:15.977
I serve on the executive
leadership team at Cal OES
02:36:17.130 --> 02:36:21.060
as an addition to advise, I'm
a director and the a Governor.
02:36:21.060 --> 02:36:22.700
Mine is really a twofold mission
02:36:23.630 --> 02:36:27.873
to identify and then to integrate.
02:36:28.730 --> 02:36:32.790
I mean it's the law of
California throughout every facet
02:36:32.790 --> 02:36:34.940
of the state's emergency
management system.
02:36:36.060 --> 02:36:40.050
I work in enterprise wide
across our directorates,
02:36:40.050 --> 02:36:44.547
our programs, our
divisions, working externally
02:36:46.440 --> 02:36:50.260
with our fellow state
agencies and then partnering
02:36:50.260 --> 02:36:52.860
with our whole community
and CBO stakeholders truck,
02:36:54.606 --> 02:36:58.320
We have integrated
access and functional needs
02:36:58.320 --> 02:37:03.140
within the Cal OES
culture, and we've woven it
02:37:03.140 --> 02:37:04.623
within the DNA of our agency.
02:37:06.444 --> 02:37:09.423
As President Batjer said
powerfully earlier today,
02:37:10.940 --> 02:37:13.767
she said, quote, "You will
be judged by your outcomes,
02:37:13.767 --> 02:37:16.863
"not your plan," and quote.
02:37:18.270 --> 02:37:20.773
The outcomes of our mission,
02:37:21.970 --> 02:37:24.520
that's moved well beyond
developing inclusive plan.
02:37:26.060 --> 02:37:29.010
Our efforts, commitment
and collaboration
02:37:29.010 --> 02:37:34.000
with our partners can be
measured and decrease suffering
02:37:35.370 --> 02:37:38.430
and decrease lots of lights
on my California access
02:37:39.726 --> 02:37:41.176
functional needs populations.
02:37:42.530 --> 02:37:44.480
This is not to say we've arrived
02:37:45.630 --> 02:37:49.033
but at Cal OES we recognize
there's so much work to be done,
02:37:50.250 --> 02:37:52.740
but it is to say that we've developed
02:37:52.740 --> 02:37:54.143
a model for integration.
02:37:55.930 --> 02:38:00.930
Others, including the
IOUs can and should use
02:38:01.610 --> 02:38:03.660
to make meaningful
progress on this area.
02:38:05.203 --> 02:38:07.463
So within the competence of PSPS,
02:38:09.020 --> 02:38:12.230
we recognized very plainly, very clearly
02:38:13.770 --> 02:38:18.117
that PSPS events
threatened the lives, safety
02:38:20.750 --> 02:38:25.010
security and far too
often even the dignity
02:38:26.330 --> 02:38:28.530
of California's most
vulnerable populations.
02:38:30.585 --> 02:38:32.830
Especially, we trust this issue
02:38:34.370 --> 02:38:36.610
to reduce the inequities of its causes
02:38:38.120 --> 02:38:42.760
and to overcome disproportional
impacts on individuals
02:38:42.760 --> 02:38:44.310
with access and works on these.
02:38:45.330 --> 02:38:50.313
It's incumbent on the IOUs to take bold,
02:38:51.370 --> 02:38:54.163
innovative, proactive action.
02:38:55.940 --> 02:39:00.120
Action that oftentimes
feel uncomfortable and new
02:39:01.302 --> 02:39:06.167
and actually that will require
them to really lean forward.
02:39:07.890 --> 02:39:12.713
I am eager to hear about
how that has been happening,
02:39:14.261 --> 02:39:19.261
that is happening and
how it will be happening.
02:39:19.830 --> 02:39:23.250
I wanna thank all of our
panelists and participants
02:39:23.250 --> 02:39:26.810
in advance for being here today
02:39:26.810 --> 02:39:29.873
for I know what was gonna
be a great conversation.
02:39:31.314 --> 02:39:34.189
There's a lot of expertise
and a lot of commitment
02:39:34.189 --> 02:39:37.863
and I think what we'll find
is we'll be able to identify,
02:39:39.120 --> 02:39:40.520
as I said, what's happening,
02:39:41.640 --> 02:39:46.640
identify some gaps and
identify solutions that will work
02:39:47.100 --> 02:39:50.520
to make all Californians
safer, more secure
02:39:50.520 --> 02:39:55.397
and more resilient before,
during and after PSPS events.
02:39:56.544 --> 02:39:58.910
So with that, I'll
turn it over to David.
02:39:58.910 --> 02:40:00.360
He's gonna introduce
a couple of panelists
02:40:00.360 --> 02:40:01.980
from I'll interview you,
02:40:01.980 --> 02:40:05.293
and then we'll move into our
question and answer portion.
02:40:08.260 --> 02:40:11.200
All right, thank you
very much for that Vance.
02:40:11.200 --> 02:40:13.563
So to introduce our panelist here.
02:40:14.520 --> 02:40:19.520
Our first panelist
here is Christina Mills,
02:40:19.680 --> 02:40:22.240
she is the executive director
of the California Foundation
02:40:22.240 --> 02:40:27.240
for Independent Living
Centers or a CFILC.
02:40:28.470 --> 02:40:31.390
This is a Statewide
membership association
02:40:31.390 --> 02:40:34.720
serving California's
independent living centers
02:40:34.720 --> 02:40:39.310
and cross disability charity.
02:40:39.310 --> 02:40:40.820
In addition, Christina is responsible
02:40:40.820 --> 02:40:44.710
for seamlessly implementing
half a dozen programs
02:40:44.710 --> 02:40:47.220
that are dedicated to
increasing the independence
02:40:47.220 --> 02:40:50.723
and interdependence of
individuals with disabilities.
02:40:51.690 --> 02:40:55.410
In 2020, her organization
launched disability,
02:40:56.770 --> 02:41:01.770
disaster, access and resources program.
02:41:02.250 --> 02:41:06.680
The program supports
disabled individuals who rely
02:41:06.680 --> 02:41:09.310
on electrically powered medical devices
02:41:09.310 --> 02:41:12.200
and assistive technology
to maintain their safety
02:41:12.200 --> 02:41:14.880
and well-being during a disaster
02:41:16.119 --> 02:41:19.513
or Public Safety Power Shutoff event.
02:41:20.720 --> 02:41:24.400
Christina is also a member
of the California Utility Access
02:41:24.400 --> 02:41:26.610
and Functional Needs Advisory committee,
02:41:26.610 --> 02:41:31.470
the Governor's office on
Emergency Service Access,
02:41:31.470 --> 02:41:33.863
and Functional Needs Advisory Committee,
02:41:35.370 --> 02:41:36.980
the Vaccine Advisory Committee
02:41:36.980 --> 02:41:41.980
and the Vaccine
Implementation Task Force.
02:41:42.070 --> 02:41:43.903
Welcome Christina.
02:41:45.870 --> 02:41:48.333
Our second panelist is Susan Henderson.
02:41:49.280 --> 02:41:53.690
She joined the Disability Rights
Education & Defense Fund,
02:41:53.690 --> 02:41:58.690
in 1997 and became it's
executive director in 2008.
02:41:58.720 --> 02:42:01.970
In addition to her executive
director responsibilities,
02:42:01.970 --> 02:42:05.470
she manages the children
and family advocacy
02:42:05.470 --> 02:42:10.470
and International Disability
Rights programs at your EDF.
02:42:16.690 --> 02:42:20.150
She expanded the family advocacy program
02:42:20.150 --> 02:42:23.210
to protect the rights
of disabled children
02:42:23.210 --> 02:42:26.510
in the child wildfire system
and launched the disability
02:42:26.510 --> 02:42:30.130
and meet the Alliance project or DMAP
02:42:30.130 --> 02:42:35.130
to change this sensational cloying
02:42:35.850 --> 02:42:38.910
and misinformed disability coverage
02:42:38.910 --> 02:42:42.370
that undermines the public
policy and legal advances
02:42:42.370 --> 02:42:45.190
of the last 35 years it covers
separated public awareness
02:42:45.190 --> 02:42:47.270
that raises public awareness and helps
02:42:47.270 --> 02:42:52.083
to end disability discrimination.
02:42:53.970 --> 02:42:58.970
She recently coauthored on
behalf of the national council
02:43:00.240 --> 02:43:05.240
on disabilities called
self driving cars,
02:43:08.200 --> 02:43:12.673
mapping access to a
technology of revolution.
02:43:12.673 --> 02:43:15.360
I think which examines
the benefits and challenges
02:43:15.360 --> 02:43:20.360
that this autonomous vehicles
hold for disabled people.
02:43:21.000 --> 02:43:22.810
She works internationally
02:43:22.810 --> 02:43:26.621
with other disability led organizations
02:43:26.621 --> 02:43:30.250
and tech workshops on
disability and human rights.
02:43:30.250 --> 02:43:35.250
Ms. Henderson has an MBA,
MBA and a BA in anthropology.
02:43:38.090 --> 02:43:39.190
Welcome Ms. Henderson.
02:43:41.393 --> 02:43:46.043
Vance, do you want to
introduce the other two?
02:43:49.498 --> 02:43:54.190
Absolutely, so Andy Imparato
began work in February,
02:43:54.190 --> 02:43:57.800
the Executive Director for
Disability Rights California
02:43:58.830 --> 02:44:03.401
and he had a set of high
impact career in Washington, D.C
02:44:03.401 --> 02:44:08.401
and disability advocacy
and policy while on D.C.
02:44:08.410 --> 02:44:11.190
Andy service, disability policy,
02:44:11.190 --> 02:44:13.770
Director per chairman, Tom Harkin
02:44:13.770 --> 02:44:16.960
from the U.S. Senate
committee on health, education,
02:44:16.960 --> 02:44:18.123
labor, pensions.
02:44:19.540 --> 02:44:23.790
Ann was present, you know,
nothing substation about people
02:44:23.790 --> 02:44:26.673
with disabilities among other roles.
02:44:27.620 --> 02:44:28.680
Most recently he was asked
02:44:28.680 --> 02:44:33.680
to join the Biden's COVID-19
health equity task force,
02:44:35.750 --> 02:44:38.470
which is helping in
developing recommendations
02:44:38.470 --> 02:44:41.480
for White House COVID-19 response team
02:44:43.710 --> 02:44:46.544
appreciate his leadership
and getting here.
02:44:46.544 --> 02:44:51.544
Executive director of the
California State Council
02:44:52.130 --> 02:44:54.530
on the problem around disabilities.
02:44:54.530 --> 02:44:57.450
There's forks on Civil
Rights Policy and programs
02:44:57.450 --> 02:45:00.820
for over 20 years, including
them as the Senate,
02:45:00.820 --> 02:45:02.710
California attorney general
02:45:03.600 --> 02:45:05.550
and as an apprentice for two Governors.
02:45:07.350 --> 02:45:11.220
Currently carrying out the
counselor's goals are probably
02:45:11.220 --> 02:45:14.930
in employment and safety,
which we could expect things,
02:45:14.930 --> 02:45:16.283
PPB and PSPS.
02:45:18.530 --> 02:45:20.790
Last year council's work in five months,
02:45:20.790 --> 02:45:25.790
2.4 million Californians
and the council of same part
02:45:25.860 --> 02:45:29.520
of the year for people
with disabilities.
02:45:29.520 --> 02:45:31.800
With that, let's go ahead
and kick off the Q&A portion
02:45:31.800 --> 02:45:35.563
and we'll turn it over to
Eric for the first question.
02:45:36.720 --> 02:45:37.553
Mr. Carruthers.
02:45:37.553 --> 02:45:39.169
Yeah, thank you for
that great introduction,
02:45:39.169 --> 02:45:40.110
you asked her a brief one,
02:45:40.110 --> 02:45:41.320
I should have been briefed for
him prior to knowing you were
02:45:41.320 --> 02:45:44.300
going to be reading them,
but thank you so much.
02:45:44.300 --> 02:45:45.570
President Batjer, thank you
02:45:45.570 --> 02:45:48.610
and thank you to the
Commissioners for taking this focus.
02:45:48.610 --> 02:45:49.640
We're deeply grateful.
02:45:49.640 --> 02:45:52.100
Many of us have been
working on this issue since July
02:45:52.100 --> 02:45:56.250
of 2019 when Vance called
us all together at Cal OES
02:45:56.250 --> 02:45:58.970
and we've been deeply
involved sometimes weekly
02:45:58.970 --> 02:46:02.620
in the IOU AFN Statewide work group.
02:46:02.620 --> 02:46:05.780
Also thank you to the senior
leadership for engagement
02:46:05.780 --> 02:46:06.613
on this panel.
02:46:06.613 --> 02:46:09.240
It's an engagement we
haven't typically enjoyed
02:46:09.240 --> 02:46:11.530
on a Statewide IOU AFN work group
02:46:11.530 --> 02:46:14.120
and because we haven't had you there,
02:46:14.120 --> 02:46:16.510
let's go ahead and
start this conversation off
02:46:16.510 --> 02:46:19.740
with a question, which is
really a level setting question
02:46:19.740 --> 02:46:20.613
for each IOU.
02:46:21.690 --> 02:46:22.590
In a simple yes
02:46:22.590 --> 02:46:26.340
or no answer is AFN
integration a high priority
02:46:26.340 --> 02:46:29.200
that your company has
developed to ensure safety
02:46:29.200 --> 02:46:30.630
and resources for when it comes
02:46:30.630 --> 02:46:33.540
to customers who
use life saving medical,
02:46:33.540 --> 02:46:36.633
or assistive technology
devices during PSPS events.
02:46:47.360 --> 02:46:49.920
Excuse me, hi, this
is Melissa Nottingham,
02:46:49.920 --> 02:46:52.650
I'm with Pacific Power
and I would say yes
02:46:54.510 --> 02:46:56.323
to that question, absolutely.
02:46:58.530 --> 02:47:00.843
Thank you, Melissa.
Okay Jamie.
02:47:02.050 --> 02:47:04.030
Hi, this is Laurie Giammona,
02:47:04.030 --> 02:47:06.130
I serve as the company's
Senior Vice President
02:47:06.130 --> 02:47:07.970
of customer care.
02:47:07.970 --> 02:47:12.970
We've absolutely integrated
AFN, people with disabilities,
02:47:13.210 --> 02:47:17.140
into our planning, into our
programs and into our structure.
02:47:17.140 --> 02:47:20.830
And in fact, have
structured a PG&E council so
02:47:20.830 --> 02:47:24.400
that we can have ongoing
dialogue and learn more
02:47:24.400 --> 02:47:26.910
and receive the feedback
necessary to continue
02:47:26.910 --> 02:47:28.060
to improve our program.
02:47:29.910 --> 02:47:31.470
Thank you.
02:47:31.470 --> 02:47:34.270
This is Nicole Howard,
up for an Edison.
02:47:34.270 --> 02:47:35.320
Can you hear me okay?
02:47:36.900 --> 02:47:40.210
Yeah, so I would just
answer that affirmatively.
02:47:40.210 --> 02:47:44.340
Absolutely, we consider
the AFN community
02:47:44.340 --> 02:47:47.000
to be a high priority
for us and ensuring
02:47:47.000 --> 02:47:49.950
that they have everything that
they need during PSPS event.
02:47:51.040 --> 02:47:53.110
Thank you so much, Nicole.
02:47:53.110 --> 02:47:54.880
Hi, this is Tashonda Taylor,
02:47:54.880 --> 02:47:57.860
I am the vice president
of customer operations
02:47:57.860 --> 02:48:02.380
at San Diego Gas and Electric
and absolutely we prioritize
02:48:02.380 --> 02:48:07.380
and integrate the access and
functional needs customers
02:48:08.090 --> 02:48:11.340
that are in need of access
and functional needs.
02:48:11.340 --> 02:48:13.670
We've done so to the degree
02:48:13.670 --> 02:48:16.790
where we have an entire
department dedicated to it.
02:48:16.790 --> 02:48:20.000
We started out with an
individual that was in charge
02:48:20.000 --> 02:48:22.010
of the function and holds a spot
02:48:22.010 --> 02:48:24.100
in our emergency operations center
02:48:24.100 --> 02:48:28.300
and based on the conversations
and listening to our partners
02:48:28.300 --> 02:48:30.530
we've expanded that
to an entire department
02:48:30.530 --> 02:48:34.107
and so we're definitely
dedicated to supporting the needs.
02:48:36.190 --> 02:48:37.980
Thank you for Tashonda
and I appreciate everybody
02:48:37.980 --> 02:48:39.510
with a senior level engagement,
02:48:39.510 --> 02:48:41.590
level setting this conversation,
02:48:41.590 --> 02:48:44.840
happy to turn it over to Andy
now for the next question.
02:48:44.840 --> 02:48:45.673
Real quick.
02:48:45.673 --> 02:48:47.773
I don't think we heard from SCE on that.
02:48:49.587 --> 02:48:52.483
And I do believe
that Mr. Payne is on.
02:48:56.364 --> 02:48:58.270
And I will just
affirm Nicole Howard.
02:48:58.270 --> 02:49:01.350
I apologize, many of
you have not met me yet.
02:49:01.350 --> 02:49:04.640
I am the vice president of
customer programs and services
02:49:04.640 --> 02:49:08.210
at SCE and I answered affirmatively,
02:49:08.210 --> 02:49:10.813
but if Kevin has anything
to add, please, please do.
02:49:12.623 --> 02:49:13.633
All right, well thank you.
02:49:18.970 --> 02:49:20.320
Andy had the next question.
02:49:22.170 --> 02:49:23.510
Yeah, thank you.
02:49:23.510 --> 02:49:26.413
Can you hear me okay?
Loud and clear.
02:49:27.290 --> 02:49:32.290
So I'm just gonna follow
up on Aaron's question again.
02:49:32.700 --> 02:49:33.830
I'm Andy Imperato,
02:49:33.830 --> 02:49:36.822
I'm the executive director
at disability rights, California.
02:49:36.822 --> 02:49:40.220
I've been in the role
since February of last year
02:49:40.220 --> 02:49:44.090
and returning to my home
state of California after 30 years
02:49:44.090 --> 02:49:46.330
on the East Coast
so it's good to be back,
02:49:46.330 --> 02:49:48.880
but it's been a rough first year,
02:49:48.880 --> 02:49:51.407
wildfires among many other things.
02:49:52.310 --> 02:49:54.090
And one of the things I've learned
02:49:54.090 --> 02:49:58.700
in doing disability advocacy
is the value of having people
02:49:58.700 --> 02:50:01.790
with lived experience
with disability in leadership
02:50:01.790 --> 02:50:06.380
and I think you're seeing
that both for the Commission
02:50:06.380 --> 02:50:09.910
and for Cal OES, how they've benefited
02:50:09.910 --> 02:50:10.743
from having people
02:50:10.743 --> 02:50:12.940
with lived experience
playing leadership roles
02:50:12.940 --> 02:50:14.530
in their organizations.
02:50:14.530 --> 02:50:18.260
So my question for each
of the IOU representatives
02:50:19.919 --> 02:50:21.883
is to just talk about your leadership,
02:50:22.825 --> 02:50:24.900
each of your respective
leadership teams consists
02:50:24.900 --> 02:50:28.530
of chief executive officers,
executive vice presidents,
02:50:28.530 --> 02:50:30.680
senior vice presidents, vice presidents
02:50:30.680 --> 02:50:32.710
and other officials.
02:50:32.710 --> 02:50:35.800
Oftentimes the
leadership teams are large,
02:50:35.800 --> 02:50:39.820
PG&E for example has over 40
corporate and company officers.
02:50:39.820 --> 02:50:43.370
So my question for each of
you is how many of the folks
02:50:43.370 --> 02:50:47.010
on your leadership team,
however you define that identify
02:50:47.010 --> 02:50:49.900
as people with disabilities
or have lived experience
02:50:49.900 --> 02:50:51.430
with a disability.
02:50:51.430 --> 02:50:54.780
Does your company have
a chief executive officer,
02:50:54.780 --> 02:50:57.210
executive vice president,
senior vice president
02:50:57.210 --> 02:51:01.750
or vice-president who was
in charge of AFN integration
02:51:01.750 --> 02:51:02.800
and is there a member
02:51:02.800 --> 02:51:06.060
of your leadership team
whose entire portfolio consists
02:51:06.060 --> 02:51:09.593
of enterprise wide AFN integration?
02:51:15.250 --> 02:51:18.633
Okay, I want to start
with the PG&E team.
02:51:20.160 --> 02:51:22.407
Great, Andy, thank
you for the question.
02:51:22.407 --> 02:51:26.210
In so far as speaking to those folks
02:51:26.210 --> 02:51:29.833
on our leadership team
that have specific disabilities,
02:51:30.800 --> 02:51:33.380
I can't share, I don't have
that information to share.
02:51:33.380 --> 02:51:36.140
What I will tell you is
that as a senior officer
02:51:36.140 --> 02:51:41.140
of PG&E, I have responsibility
for the programs and services
02:51:41.490 --> 02:51:45.290
of our AFN community, our
Medical Baseline community.
02:51:45.290 --> 02:51:46.980
I have a fully integrated team
02:51:46.980 --> 02:51:48.700
that reports directly through me.
02:51:48.700 --> 02:51:51.140
So I have three officers on my team.
02:51:51.140 --> 02:51:52.710
They all have accountability
02:51:52.710 --> 02:51:56.960
for supporting our AFN community.
02:51:56.960 --> 02:52:01.450
In addition to that, I have an
ADA specialists on our team,
02:52:01.450 --> 02:52:03.410
Aaron Johnson, who is with me today
02:52:03.410 --> 02:52:05.900
as well as Vanessa Brian are all part
02:52:05.900 --> 02:52:08.840
of our integrated team and
they also have accountability
02:52:08.840 --> 02:52:13.840
for integrated disability
focus not only on our PSPS
02:52:16.120 --> 02:52:19.580
and emergencies but
throughout our organization
02:52:19.580 --> 02:52:22.880
and throughout the
way that we execute safe
02:52:22.880 --> 02:52:24.730
and reliable power for our customers.
02:52:32.000 --> 02:52:36.253
Okay and move over to Jamie.
02:52:39.200 --> 02:52:41.363
Hi, thank you
for that question.
02:52:44.070 --> 02:52:48.070
We support AFN
throughout the organization
02:52:48.070 --> 02:52:51.000
but specifically under
my span of control,
02:52:51.000 --> 02:52:53.210
like I said in my introductory comments,
02:52:53.210 --> 02:52:58.210
we have a dedicated team
to support AFN activities.
02:52:58.440 --> 02:53:02.800
We recently secured a
dedicated ADA specialist
02:53:02.800 --> 02:53:04.950
whose entire role is to integrate needs
02:53:04.950 --> 02:53:07.810
of AFN internally and externally.
02:53:07.810 --> 02:53:12.340
We take that extremely
seriously and we think that
02:53:12.340 --> 02:53:16.080
that's our responsibility to
have a group that's dedicated
02:53:16.080 --> 02:53:19.110
to that function and
so like I said earlier,
02:53:19.110 --> 02:53:22.530
we've expanded that and
we'll continue to look at ways
02:53:22.530 --> 02:53:27.530
to support that department and
enhance it as much as we can,
02:53:28.470 --> 02:53:32.090
but that's what we're dedicated
to improving in this space
02:53:32.090 --> 02:53:34.570
and hence the support
that we've backed behind
02:53:34.570 --> 02:53:37.570
on having a dedicated
department that's integrated
02:53:37.570 --> 02:53:40.660
within my organization
and customer operations.
02:53:43.860 --> 02:53:45.340
Okay, SDG&E.
02:53:54.330 --> 02:53:58.729
some non from SDG&E that kind of stuff.
02:53:58.729 --> 02:54:01.640
I'm sorry, this
was to Tashonda,
02:54:01.640 --> 02:54:03.869
I just answered for SDG&E.
02:54:03.869 --> 02:54:05.483
I'm so sorry.
02:54:06.920 --> 02:54:10.810
I'm looking at my notes here
and trying to make sure that
02:54:10.810 --> 02:54:13.410
they have utility to answer
in the same order every time,
02:54:13.410 --> 02:54:17.350
but sometimes I'll fumble
around the companies.
02:54:17.350 --> 02:54:19.530
So we've heard from PG&E and SDG&E.
02:54:23.013 --> 02:54:24.073
This is Nicole.
02:54:24.073 --> 02:54:25.557
I can answer for SCE.
02:54:26.639 --> 02:54:29.390
Just as a means of a
little bit of background.
02:54:29.390 --> 02:54:31.367
Again, I'm the Vice President
of Customer Programs
02:54:31.367 --> 02:54:33.795
and Services at
Southern California Edison
02:54:33.795 --> 02:54:37.640
and just to level set, until
about five months ago,
02:54:37.640 --> 02:54:40.258
I served as the Chief
Customer Officer, SMUD,
02:54:40.258 --> 02:54:43.100
Sacramento Municipal Utility District,
02:54:43.100 --> 02:54:47.690
and I have come here
looking forward to listening
02:54:47.690 --> 02:54:50.610
and learning and really
collaborating with this group
02:54:50.610 --> 02:54:55.610
of folks in order to understand
the important concerns
02:54:55.610 --> 02:54:58.430
in front of our AFN communities and
02:54:58.430 --> 02:55:01.420
in preparation for PSPS events.
02:55:01.420 --> 02:55:02.253
As a person,
02:55:02.253 --> 02:55:06.620
myself was functional
needs being single-sided deaf.
02:55:06.620 --> 02:55:10.450
I definitely share a unique
understanding of the urgency
02:55:10.450 --> 02:55:12.380
in addressing the identified concerns.
02:55:12.380 --> 02:55:16.840
So I am an officer of the
organization and in my span
02:55:16.840 --> 02:55:20.140
of control, overseeing
customer solutions for SCE
02:55:20.140 --> 02:55:22.340
it is absolutely a priority.
02:55:22.340 --> 02:55:24.890
And again, I think my
unique understanding
02:55:24.890 --> 02:55:29.550
as in lived experience is
going to help us move forward
02:55:29.550 --> 02:55:32.380
and continue to do
better in the preparation
02:55:32.380 --> 02:55:34.283
of our AFN customers and community.
02:55:37.270 --> 02:55:39.023
Thank you and PacifiCorp.
02:55:42.610 --> 02:55:44.727
Hello again, this is Melissa
02:55:44.727 --> 02:55:47.860
I just wanna say that PacifiCorp,
02:55:47.860 --> 02:55:51.460
we are continuously focused
on improving what we do
02:55:51.460 --> 02:55:54.380
and how we interact with our customers.
02:55:54.380 --> 02:55:58.100
And that our executive
team is dedicated not only
02:55:58.100 --> 02:56:02.240
to creating a work
environment that is based
02:56:02.240 --> 02:56:04.320
on the principles of the OCEI,
02:56:04.320 --> 02:56:07.150
but also as we look
more to our customers
02:56:07.150 --> 02:56:11.350
on how we can meet our
customers where they're at
02:56:11.350 --> 02:56:15.850
and address the specific
needs for a variety
02:56:15.850 --> 02:56:16.930
of different individuals.
02:56:16.930 --> 02:56:19.670
Now we have a very
small service territory
02:56:19.670 --> 02:56:21.087
in Northern California,
02:56:21.087 --> 02:56:25.020
but we also have service
territory in Oregon and Washington
02:56:25.020 --> 02:56:27.390
and one of the things
I think that we've seen
02:56:27.390 --> 02:56:32.230
as part of not only this PSPS rulemaking
02:56:32.230 --> 02:56:34.800
and the implementation
of our plan is also
02:56:34.800 --> 02:56:37.510
with COVID and the
variety of other issues
02:56:37.510 --> 02:56:40.460
that have adversely
impacted our community.
02:56:40.460 --> 02:56:45.460
So I'm here again to listen and
learn and get some new ideas
02:56:47.100 --> 02:56:50.540
and support from this
team and your expertise
02:56:50.540 --> 02:56:54.000
to see how we can better
incorporate that into our processes
02:56:54.000 --> 02:56:56.790
and how we interact with
our customers, Thank you.
02:57:00.100 --> 02:57:03.043
Thank you and does
that get to your questions
02:57:03.043 --> 02:57:04.343
that you're asking there?
02:57:09.570 --> 02:57:11.570
Sorry, just taking it off mute.
02:57:11.570 --> 02:57:13.330
I think it's helpful.
02:57:13.330 --> 02:57:17.000
What I was really trying
to get at is what is the level
02:57:17.000 --> 02:57:17.840
within the cover,
02:57:17.840 --> 02:57:20.240
One of the questions I was
asking is what is the level
02:57:20.240 --> 02:57:25.240
within the company that
owns the AFN function
02:57:25.671 --> 02:57:30.671
as their full time job, not
as a piece of their portfolio.
02:57:31.950 --> 02:57:34.900
And it's not crystal clear to
me what the answer to that is,
02:57:34.900 --> 02:57:36.713
but that was part of my question.
02:57:40.480 --> 02:57:43.410
Okay, so I'll perhaps
just to follow up,
02:57:43.410 --> 02:57:46.420
if anybody wants to chime in on that,
02:57:46.420 --> 02:57:49.220
I guess from the CAL OES
perspective that would be like,
02:57:50.400 --> 02:57:54.370
for example, my role,
the entire portfolio
02:57:54.370 --> 02:57:55.883
for that and functional needs,
02:57:56.980 --> 02:58:01.420
fortunately it's in the
title and that position
02:58:01.420 --> 02:58:04.363
right that's your senior
level executive position,
02:58:06.210 --> 02:58:09.438
I think maybe Andy Imparato
from our, kind of here,
02:58:09.438 --> 02:58:11.097
if that's kind of what you're.
02:58:11.097 --> 02:58:13.620
You're wondering, so aprons are part
02:58:13.620 --> 02:58:15.573
of what the executive team looks at,
02:58:16.500 --> 02:58:18.930
or the attorney, one
of the executive team
02:58:18.930 --> 02:58:23.523
with AFN in the title or
who's portfolio with AFN.
02:58:32.310 --> 02:58:33.143
I was pretty that open
02:58:33.143 --> 02:58:36.430
for anybody who wants to answer that.
02:58:36.430 --> 02:58:38.040
Hi, this is Tashonda again
02:58:38.040 --> 02:58:39.993
from San Diego Gas and Electric.
02:58:41.040 --> 02:58:43.960
So like I stated earlier,
02:58:43.960 --> 02:58:47.010
the AFN responsibilities
falls under my umbrella.
02:58:47.010 --> 02:58:50.480
However, AFN is not in my official title
02:58:51.900 --> 02:58:56.900
but I do have a manager that
reports within my organization
02:58:57.200 --> 02:58:59.420
that is over the AFN responsibilities
02:58:59.420 --> 02:59:02.530
and to that manager we
have three project managers
02:59:02.530 --> 02:59:05.120
that report up through
that organization,
02:59:05.120 --> 02:59:10.120
including an ADA specialist,
as I spoke to earlier.
02:59:13.500 --> 02:59:15.350
And I hope that answers the question.
02:59:16.610 --> 02:59:17.443
Thanks.
02:59:20.640 --> 02:59:22.031
Someone else--
02:59:22.031 --> 02:59:25.187
Well that's an odd
thing, you have a game
02:59:25.187 --> 02:59:29.850
We have the AFN
outreach and communication
02:59:29.850 --> 02:59:31.590
in our wildfire mitigation plans
02:59:31.590 --> 02:59:33.780
is embedded into our processes,
02:59:33.780 --> 02:59:36.520
we don't have a specific
dedicated resource
02:59:37.730 --> 02:59:42.730
for dealing with AFN, it's
more part of what we do
02:59:42.870 --> 02:59:44.460
and how we do it.
02:59:44.460 --> 02:59:47.180
I do wanna point out
with our PSPS events
02:59:47.180 --> 02:59:51.700
that we had in 2020, we had less than,
02:59:51.700 --> 02:59:55.680
I think we had five customers
that have been identified with
02:59:56.760 --> 02:59:59.720
that had medical access
and functional needs,
02:59:59.720 --> 03:00:02.860
Medical Baseline
customers that we contacted.
03:00:02.860 --> 03:00:04.580
So just to kind of put it in the scope
03:00:04.580 --> 03:00:09.470
that we just tasked our
employees to embed those needs
03:00:09.470 --> 03:00:11.363
into everything they do.
03:00:14.000 --> 03:00:15.307
Okay, Nicole now.
03:00:18.797 --> 03:00:20.780
Hi, this is Nicole,
I can elaborate
03:00:20.780 --> 03:00:23.190
a little bit more on my prior answer,
03:00:23.190 --> 03:00:26.320
I think again, I have the responsibility
03:00:26.320 --> 03:00:29.740
for this suite of customer
solutions and programs,
03:00:29.740 --> 03:00:34.740
I think the discipline in terms
of ensuring that the needs
03:00:36.310 --> 03:00:39.940
of our AFN community are met fall within
03:00:39.940 --> 03:00:43.540
I would say the scope of the
segmentation management role
03:00:43.540 --> 03:00:48.440
that's within my group but
it's a priority for many of us
03:00:48.440 --> 03:00:50.470
across the organization,
03:00:50.470 --> 03:00:54.090
we like to think about all of
our customers in our processes
03:00:54.090 --> 03:00:56.520
and procedures in the way
that we manage our customers
03:00:56.520 --> 03:00:57.750
through outage situations
03:00:57.750 --> 03:01:02.030
and so, although I probably
would be one to have
03:01:02.030 --> 03:01:04.370
some accountability over that,
03:01:04.370 --> 03:01:06.370
I believe it's something
that is ingrained
03:01:06.370 --> 03:01:09.200
in our culture and we all
feel a shared responsibility
03:01:09.200 --> 03:01:11.800
to make sure all of our
customers are taken care of.
03:01:13.460 --> 03:01:14.960
Thanks Nicole.
03:01:14.960 --> 03:01:15.793
Aaron?
03:01:23.512 --> 03:01:25.783
I guess I have to move specific
rep to Aaron, Aaron Johnson.
03:01:29.440 --> 03:01:30.820
Thanks Vance.
03:01:30.820 --> 03:01:32.600
Can you, just wanna make
sure I'm coming through,
03:01:32.600 --> 03:01:34.090
can you hear me Vance?
03:01:34.090 --> 03:01:35.143
Yeah, sure I can.
03:01:37.100 --> 03:01:40.030
So a slightly better
question for Laurie
03:01:40.030 --> 03:01:41.530
but I'll go ahead and take it.
03:01:43.650 --> 03:01:47.210
So we have Vanessa Brian,
who's a dedicated senior manager
03:01:47.210 --> 03:01:49.050
who does a variety of customer support,
03:01:49.050 --> 03:01:54.050
she has three people dedicated
to AFN issues on her team,
03:01:54.910 --> 03:01:59.910
and we also have individual
dedicated to ADA issues
03:02:00.610 --> 03:02:03.230
as Tashonda mentioned as well
03:02:03.230 --> 03:02:08.230
and we also have event
specific roles to communicate
03:02:08.750 --> 03:02:10.520
with the community-based organizations
03:02:10.520 --> 03:02:14.320
that we even work with
to support our customers
03:02:14.320 --> 03:02:16.723
during events and those folks,
03:02:17.620 --> 03:02:19.910
there are specific event
roles that are dedicated
03:02:19.910 --> 03:02:22.203
to make sure that they have a liaison.
03:02:25.430 --> 03:02:26.580
Excellent, thank you.
03:02:27.510 --> 03:02:30.580
Okay, so we're gonna switch
over to Susan Henderson
03:02:31.910 --> 03:02:35.910
for some questions and
let's just find the order
03:02:35.910 --> 03:02:37.010
on the front end here.
03:02:37.890 --> 03:02:41.080
We'll go reverse order, PacifiCorp,
SCE, SDG&E and then PG&E
03:02:44.570 --> 03:02:46.000
Okay Susan.
03:02:46.000 --> 03:02:48.750
Okay, hi everybody,
this is Susan Henderson
03:02:48.750 --> 03:02:51.460
from Disability Rights
Education and Defense Fund,
03:02:51.460 --> 03:02:53.550
it's nice to see you all.
03:02:53.550 --> 03:02:56.580
So thank you for
elaborating on the question
03:02:56.580 --> 03:02:58.770
that Andy asked upfront,
03:02:58.770 --> 03:03:01.070
it sounds like you're all at different,
03:03:01.070 --> 03:03:06.070
sort of different places in
the process of AFN integration.
03:03:06.820 --> 03:03:10.300
So I would like to ask and
this is just the quick question,
03:03:10.300 --> 03:03:11.480
I have a couple more after this,
03:03:11.480 --> 03:03:15.670
but it sounds like some of
you have senior leadership
03:03:15.670 --> 03:03:19.840
involved in the work
but it's not an enterprise,
03:03:19.840 --> 03:03:22.370
that's not their sole job
03:03:24.248 --> 03:03:26.350
and I appreciate the
work that you're all doing
03:03:26.350 --> 03:03:30.210
but can you tell us
whether you are planning on
03:03:30.210 --> 03:03:33.570
or would commit to creating
a senior level position
03:03:33.570 --> 03:03:37.850
that over, that that's their
sole role is overseeing
03:03:37.850 --> 03:03:41.960
and ensuring that
there's AFN integration
03:03:41.960 --> 03:03:44.263
throughout the organization?
03:03:47.410 --> 03:03:49.433
Hi, I think I'm going first.
03:03:50.300 --> 03:03:52.810
I think that's a great idea.
03:03:52.810 --> 03:03:55.820
I don't think I'm in a position
to commit to that today
03:03:55.820 --> 03:03:59.883
but I appreciate that, I will
take that back to the team.
03:04:08.050 --> 03:04:10.283
From representing
SCE if I'm next.
03:04:11.931 --> 03:04:13.098
Yeah.
Okay.
03:04:15.380 --> 03:04:19.920
So again, I think that when
I look at the responsibility
03:04:19.920 --> 03:04:23.290
of making sure that all of our customers
03:04:23.290 --> 03:04:27.330
are adequately served with our solutions
03:04:27.330 --> 03:04:31.100
to ensure that their
customer experience is one
03:04:31.100 --> 03:04:35.240
that meets the value
proposition for our customers,
03:04:35.240 --> 03:04:38.890
I think that is in
alignment with my role,
03:04:38.890 --> 03:04:42.790
we do have specific
individuals, a senior advisor
03:04:42.790 --> 03:04:46.850
that is responsible for the
AFN segment of customers,
03:04:46.850 --> 03:04:49.913
that really understanding
the challenges,
03:04:50.760 --> 03:04:55.760
the needs and the solutions
that are specifically required
03:04:57.560 --> 03:05:01.600
and necessary in order to
provide that full range of value
03:05:01.600 --> 03:05:05.540
for our ASN community, so
I am happy to be able to say
03:05:05.540 --> 03:05:09.640
that I think that we
have that person in place
03:05:09.640 --> 03:05:14.560
and it is a part of the
team that I have received.
03:05:14.560 --> 03:05:18.830
Part of that role also
is to ensure that we are,
03:05:18.830 --> 03:05:21.410
as we look at our processes
and our procedures
03:05:21.410 --> 03:05:25.160
that we are meeting that
need for all of our segments
03:05:25.160 --> 03:05:28.670
of customers who are at
customer experience management.
03:05:28.670 --> 03:05:32.530
So I do think that we're
headed down the right path,
03:05:32.530 --> 03:05:35.660
we may have some improvements
that we definitely can make
03:05:35.660 --> 03:05:38.650
and look forward to continue
to get better in that role
03:05:38.650 --> 03:05:41.590
but I do think we have
the discipline and the focus
03:05:41.590 --> 03:05:43.230
and the passion to ensure
03:05:43.230 --> 03:05:45.910
that we're providing
those the best positions
03:05:45.910 --> 03:05:50.000
for all of our customers
and specifically as it relates
03:05:50.000 --> 03:05:51.283
to our AFN community
03:05:56.265 --> 03:05:57.213
Next to call, Tashonda.
03:05:59.130 --> 03:06:00.650
Thank you.
03:06:00.650 --> 03:06:05.050
So, although we have
a dedicated department
03:06:05.050 --> 03:06:08.270
and a manager along
with three project managers
03:06:08.270 --> 03:06:12.740
that are dedicated to staffing
03:06:12.740 --> 03:06:16.540
the specifically dedicated
ASN responsibility,
03:06:16.540 --> 03:06:19.190
I feel as if our senior leaders
03:06:19.190 --> 03:06:21.543
all have personal
responsibility as well.
03:06:22.650 --> 03:06:26.290
I, myself participate
in the Statewide calls
03:06:26.290 --> 03:06:29.650
with my manager in terms of AFN.
03:06:29.650 --> 03:06:33.000
Our regional work groups, we are all,
03:06:33.000 --> 03:06:35.570
we all stay involved
with the action items
03:06:35.570 --> 03:06:38.060
and different brainstorming that comes
03:06:38.060 --> 03:06:39.490
from working with those teams.
03:06:39.490 --> 03:06:44.450
So we feel very proud of
standing up a dedicated group,
03:06:44.450 --> 03:06:48.390
I think we're open to listening
to any of the conversation
03:06:48.390 --> 03:06:52.030
as it regards to how far up in
the organization that can be,
03:06:52.030 --> 03:06:55.150
but I will let you know
that as a vice president
03:06:55.150 --> 03:06:57.830
of customer operations at SDG&E,
03:06:57.830 --> 03:07:01.510
I stay extremely engaged with my manager
03:07:01.510 --> 03:07:04.560
for that dedicated effort in
terms of what we're doing
03:07:04.560 --> 03:07:07.310
to enhance the program,
as well as staying involved
03:07:07.310 --> 03:07:09.340
with what we need to
do to make it more robust,
03:07:09.340 --> 03:07:13.180
that we feel good about the
positions that we've set up
03:07:13.180 --> 03:07:15.633
and the effort that
we've put in place so far.
03:07:18.990 --> 03:07:19.973
Thank you, Aaron?
03:07:21.860 --> 03:07:22.979
Hi, this Laurie.
03:07:22.979 --> 03:07:25.270
Also I'm gonna keep
picking on the same people
03:07:25.270 --> 03:07:28.920
from each IOU so if you feel
like there's somebody else
03:07:28.920 --> 03:07:32.087
from the IOU, that said,
please jump in and do so.
03:07:33.061 --> 03:07:33.894
All right, thanks.
03:07:33.894 --> 03:07:35.300
Well, I'm gonna answer this question
03:07:35.300 --> 03:07:37.590
because I ultimately I'm accountable
03:07:37.590 --> 03:07:40.430
as the senior executive at PG&E
03:07:40.430 --> 03:07:42.480
but we believe in an
integrated approach.
03:07:42.480 --> 03:07:46.257
We have a team that is
comprised of a number of leaders
03:07:46.257 --> 03:07:51.257
within the customer organization
that is focused on AFN,
03:07:51.990 --> 03:07:55.233
our communities of
color, with disabilities.
03:07:56.720 --> 03:08:00.830
our customers with
disabilities and our low income.
03:08:00.830 --> 03:08:02.770
And we believe that
an integrated approach
03:08:02.770 --> 03:08:04.590
will help us provide
03:08:04.590 --> 03:08:07.420
in concert with our
community-based partners,
03:08:07.420 --> 03:08:09.680
the best solutions for our customers.
03:08:09.680 --> 03:08:12.570
I also believe that it can't
be the sole ownership
03:08:12.570 --> 03:08:15.500
of any one executive, we have
to have an integrated approach
03:08:15.500 --> 03:08:17.200
across our organization,
03:08:17.200 --> 03:08:22.200
and examples of this are we
have all of our EOC structure,
03:08:22.300 --> 03:08:24.600
all those that serve
in leadership roles,
03:08:24.600 --> 03:08:28.430
when we have our incident
command structure activated
03:08:28.430 --> 03:08:30.563
are going through AFN training.
03:08:31.440 --> 03:08:36.440
We have AFN support when
we're activated in emergencies
03:08:36.670 --> 03:08:39.510
but more broadly, we wanna
really syndicate the needs
03:08:39.510 --> 03:08:41.730
of our customers
across the organization,
03:08:41.730 --> 03:08:45.940
so that there's not just
one individual or one team
03:08:45.940 --> 03:08:48.610
that has sole
responsibility for delivering
03:08:48.610 --> 03:08:51.123
for this very important
customer group for us.
03:08:53.280 --> 03:08:55.930
Okay, thank you, I think
that was everybody, right?
03:08:57.220 --> 03:08:58.090
So the followup,
03:08:58.090 --> 03:09:02.420
so can you tell us how your
company has been working
03:09:02.420 --> 03:09:05.260
with the disability AFN community
03:09:05.260 --> 03:09:08.870
to invest in the needs of
the people with disabilities
03:09:08.870 --> 03:09:13.060
who require backup
power during PSPS events
03:09:13.060 --> 03:09:16.740
and then just also how
you have been measuring
03:09:16.740 --> 03:09:18.483
the success of that investment,
03:09:19.410 --> 03:09:23.128
and of course how you plan to expand it
03:09:23.128 --> 03:09:25.550
because we know that we
don't have people with disabilities
03:09:25.550 --> 03:09:27.750
with AFN needs covered
throughout the state?
03:09:33.490 --> 03:09:37.490
Excellent, Laurie, do
you wanna to tackle that?
03:09:37.490 --> 03:09:38.990
No, I would love
to talk about that
03:09:38.990 --> 03:09:40.530
but, and thanks for the question, Susan,
03:09:40.530 --> 03:09:44.020
but I'd really like to have
Vanessa Brian on our team,
03:09:44.020 --> 03:09:45.430
share what we're doing,
03:09:45.430 --> 03:09:48.440
I think that she's done a tremendous job
03:09:48.440 --> 03:09:52.670
working with all of you and
our community leadership
03:09:52.670 --> 03:09:55.540
as well as our agency partners
03:09:55.540 --> 03:09:58.723
and I'd love to have her
share of what we've been doing.
03:10:00.330 --> 03:10:02.630
Thanks Laurie, confirming
folks can hear me?
03:10:04.653 --> 03:10:07.540
Loud and clear.
Perfect, thanks Vance.
03:10:07.540 --> 03:10:10.830
All right, so in terms,
from a PG&E perspective,
03:10:10.830 --> 03:10:14.980
we have stood up not
only our regional people
03:10:14.980 --> 03:10:17.270
with disabilities and
aging advisory council,
03:10:17.270 --> 03:10:20.010
which some of the folks
on the panel participate in
03:10:20.010 --> 03:10:21.430
as well as participation
03:10:21.430 --> 03:10:26.430
with our joint IOU AFN Advisory
Council at the State level,
03:10:26.780 --> 03:10:29.470
with which some other
folks also participate in
03:10:29.470 --> 03:10:31.410
and all of the investor on utilities,
03:10:31.410 --> 03:10:33.330
we are also benchmarking
with each other.
03:10:33.330 --> 03:10:35.020
We have two calls a week
03:10:35.020 --> 03:10:37.900
and we explore how we're
communicating with customers,
03:10:37.900 --> 03:10:40.560
what resources we're
offering to our customers
03:10:40.560 --> 03:10:43.993
and what we can learn from
each other to better provide
03:10:43.993 --> 03:10:46.530
a more consistent
approach across the state.
03:10:46.530 --> 03:10:49.960
Specific to batteries and backup power,
03:10:49.960 --> 03:10:54.960
so we have, this is twofold,
we started our partnership
03:10:55.600 --> 03:10:56.760
with the California Foundation
03:10:56.760 --> 03:10:58.370
for Independent Living Centers,
03:10:58.370 --> 03:11:02.285
actually late in 2019
those discussions began
03:11:02.285 --> 03:11:05.673
and we were able to launch
a full partnership in 2020.
03:11:06.510 --> 03:11:09.300
Through that partnership,
as Christina mentioned,
03:11:09.300 --> 03:11:11.480
they developed a
disability disaster access
03:11:11.480 --> 03:11:12.837
and resources program.
03:11:12.837 --> 03:11:15.520
And so that program was able to deploy
03:11:15.520 --> 03:11:19.380
over 1000 batteries
over the course of 2020.
03:11:19.380 --> 03:11:22.300
Now we recognize that
backup power batteries
03:11:22.300 --> 03:11:25.700
are not the only solution
and in many cases,
03:11:25.700 --> 03:11:28.650
the disability disaster
access and resource centers
03:11:28.650 --> 03:11:31.330
were engaging with customers
who actually needed more.
03:11:31.330 --> 03:11:33.390
So we have a multi-pronged approach.
03:11:33.390 --> 03:11:36.250
It might be accessible transportation
03:11:36.250 --> 03:11:38.190
to a community resource center
03:11:38.190 --> 03:11:39.770
so that they can charge medical devices.
03:11:39.770 --> 03:11:42.670
It might be deploying
one or more batteries
03:11:42.670 --> 03:11:44.966
so that they have enough power
03:11:44.966 --> 03:11:47.840
to power the devices that they're using,
03:11:47.840 --> 03:11:49.720
or it may be that their power needs
03:11:49.720 --> 03:11:53.070
are far more than any portable
backup battery could handle,
03:11:53.070 --> 03:11:56.540
and in that case, they're
able to coordinate hotel stays
03:11:56.540 --> 03:11:59.300
for those individuals so that
they can have continuous power
03:11:59.300 --> 03:12:03.810
outside of the area where
the shutoff is taking place.
03:12:03.810 --> 03:12:05.940
Now that's really meant to supplement
03:12:05.940 --> 03:12:08.170
our portable battery program
03:12:08.170 --> 03:12:09.580
and the portable battery program,
03:12:09.580 --> 03:12:11.500
when we stood up late in the year,
03:12:11.500 --> 03:12:15.240
we were able to deploy
over 5,500 batteries,
03:12:15.240 --> 03:12:16.640
but before we deployed those,
03:12:16.640 --> 03:12:18.970
we actually sent letters to any customer
03:12:18.970 --> 03:12:21.230
that we believe could
qualify for this program.
03:12:21.230 --> 03:12:24.760
Over 22,000 letters
were sent to customers,
03:12:24.760 --> 03:12:27.930
we engaged with over 12,000
customers and were able
03:12:27.930 --> 03:12:31.170
to complete assessments with over 8,000.
03:12:31.170 --> 03:12:33.740
Now from those numbers
is when we actually arrived
03:12:33.740 --> 03:12:36.550
with the deployment
of over 5,500 batteries,
03:12:36.550 --> 03:12:39.690
again, based on need, some
customers were not interested
03:12:39.690 --> 03:12:42.971
or they had other
solutions, some customers,
03:12:42.971 --> 03:12:44.987
the battery was not
going to suffice for them
03:12:44.987 --> 03:12:48.390
and so, potentially again,
looking at supplementing that
03:12:48.390 --> 03:12:51.110
through the CFILC
partnership during events
03:12:51.110 --> 03:12:52.400
and then there are some customers
03:12:52.400 --> 03:12:55.970
who we still have the
opportunity to revisit
03:12:55.970 --> 03:12:58.570
and understand kind
of how they would like
03:12:58.570 --> 03:13:01.350
to receive different solutions.
03:13:01.350 --> 03:13:02.900
We have different size batteries,
03:13:02.900 --> 03:13:05.017
we might deploy multiple batteries,
03:13:05.017 --> 03:13:09.160
and so again, 6,500
batteries are in customer hands
03:13:09.160 --> 03:13:13.950
as of today and we have another 5,000
03:13:13.950 --> 03:13:16.470
that are either in
inventory, we received them,
03:13:16.470 --> 03:13:19.600
or they're on order with
the goal of deploying those
03:13:19.600 --> 03:13:21.660
throughout the year in 2021.
03:13:21.660 --> 03:13:24.730
Our goal Susan really is to
make sure that any customer
03:13:24.730 --> 03:13:27.542
who resides in a high fire threat area,
03:13:27.542 --> 03:13:29.950
who is a Medical Baseline
customer and low incomes,
03:13:29.950 --> 03:13:32.330
if they would like a
portable backup battery
03:13:32.330 --> 03:13:34.290
and that is the solution
that will work for them,
03:13:34.290 --> 03:13:37.610
that they will receive one,
so thanks for the question.
03:13:37.610 --> 03:13:38.443
Thank you.
03:13:40.415 --> 03:13:41.998
Excellent, SDG&E?
03:13:44.315 --> 03:13:47.430
Thank you, you
know, we're okay.
03:13:47.430 --> 03:13:50.250
Sorry Tashonda, I just
cut in, you go right ahead.
03:13:50.250 --> 03:13:52.700
No, it's okay, I'm gonna
introduce you Danielle,
03:13:52.700 --> 03:13:55.460
because you've done so
much work in this space
03:13:55.460 --> 03:13:57.500
and I want you to share some of it.
03:13:57.500 --> 03:14:01.270
At SDG&E, we are
really excited about this
03:14:01.270 --> 03:14:03.040
because we've launched
new support models
03:14:03.040 --> 03:14:06.960
with 2-1-1 San Diego
and 2-1-1 Orange County,
03:14:06.960 --> 03:14:09.460
along with them community
based organizations
03:14:09.460 --> 03:14:12.150
and so I really would like to introduce
03:14:12.150 --> 03:14:14.980
our AFN manager, Danielle Kyd
03:14:14.980 --> 03:14:17.010
to elaborate on some of the things
03:14:17.010 --> 03:14:19.600
that we've done under the
new support model partnerships,
03:14:19.600 --> 03:14:23.710
as well as what we've done
with supplying generators
03:14:23.710 --> 03:14:26.190
for Medical Baseline
customers and beyond,
03:14:26.190 --> 03:14:27.990
so Danielle, I'll let you elaborate.
03:14:29.580 --> 03:14:31.810
Thank you Tashonda,
and thank you for confirming
03:14:31.810 --> 03:14:34.710
that my microphone is
working, I appreciate that.
03:14:34.710 --> 03:14:38.420
Nice to see you all,
Vanessa did a really nice job
03:14:38.420 --> 03:14:40.920
describing a lot of the
Statewide collaborative efforts
03:14:40.920 --> 03:14:43.540
that we have going on across the IOUs
03:14:43.540 --> 03:14:47.180
and with our AFN Statewide
council and we do a lot of that,
03:14:47.180 --> 03:14:49.510
the same type of efforts
at the regional level
03:14:49.510 --> 03:14:52.140
to constantly incorporate feedback,
03:14:52.140 --> 03:14:54.080
but I think our holistic,
03:14:54.080 --> 03:14:56.390
our approach really
is a holistic look at this.
03:14:56.390 --> 03:14:59.920
We want to provide
backup battery generation
03:14:59.920 --> 03:15:01.860
to the right customers and we also want
03:15:01.860 --> 03:15:03.960
to include a broader suite of tools
03:15:03.960 --> 03:15:07.180
that can help provide
resiliency for our customers
03:15:07.180 --> 03:15:10.560
with access and functional
needs during PSPS events.
03:15:10.560 --> 03:15:14.240
In 2020, we significantly ramped up our,
03:15:14.240 --> 03:15:16.520
we call it our generator grant program
03:15:16.520 --> 03:15:19.830
and through that we
offer no cost generators
03:15:19.830 --> 03:15:22.940
to all of our Medical Baseline customers
03:15:22.940 --> 03:15:26.640
that had previously been
impacted by a PSPS event.
03:15:26.640 --> 03:15:29.680
In 2021, we're looking
to significantly expand
03:15:29.680 --> 03:15:32.560
and in fact, double that program
03:15:32.560 --> 03:15:36.270
to reach more like 2,500
customers in our medical base,
03:15:36.270 --> 03:15:38.310
I'm sorry, of our Medical Baseline
03:15:38.310 --> 03:15:40.380
and other access and
functional needs customers
03:15:40.380 --> 03:15:43.060
who might have self
identify as having disabilities
03:15:44.490 --> 03:15:46.750
in our high fire threat district.
03:15:46.750 --> 03:15:49.770
Additionally, we did
it, Tashonda's point,
03:15:49.770 --> 03:15:52.290
launch some support models in 2020
03:15:52.290 --> 03:15:56.160
that we're looking to continue
and to expand into 2021,
03:15:56.160 --> 03:15:59.730
that provide other services
as well, such as hotel stays,
03:15:59.730 --> 03:16:02.970
accessible transportation,
food delivery,
03:16:02.970 --> 03:16:05.470
wildfire checks and other items
03:16:05.470 --> 03:16:08.520
in order to help customers
in case the generator
03:16:08.520 --> 03:16:11.273
is not either only or the best solution.
03:16:18.080 --> 03:16:19.330
Okay, thanks.
03:16:21.826 --> 03:16:22.743
Excellent
03:16:24.070 --> 03:16:26.880
And let's see, SCE.
03:16:28.590 --> 03:16:32.880
Thank you, I'm gonna ask
Jessica Lim, who is our PSPS lead
03:16:32.880 --> 03:16:37.160
for the customer experience
to offer some insights
03:16:37.160 --> 03:16:41.910
into the efforts that
we underwent in 2020,
03:16:41.910 --> 03:16:43.430
but also some of the improvements
03:16:43.430 --> 03:16:46.483
that we're making in 2021, Jessica.
03:16:48.050 --> 03:16:48.910
Great, thank you.
03:16:48.910 --> 03:16:51.080
Thank you Susan for that good question.
03:16:51.080 --> 03:16:52.530
I do want to emphasize
03:16:52.530 --> 03:16:55.040
what has already been
shared by my counterparts,
03:16:55.040 --> 03:16:56.830
that Vanessa, Danielle and I
03:16:56.830 --> 03:16:59.440
meet regularly on a weekly basis
03:16:59.440 --> 03:17:03.450
to talk about how we can
better serve our AFN customers.
03:17:03.450 --> 03:17:05.680
In terms of backup battery power,
03:17:05.680 --> 03:17:08.463
I wanted to share a couple of updates.
03:17:09.900 --> 03:17:11.880
Our main backup battery program
03:17:11.880 --> 03:17:14.960
is our critical care
backup battery program
03:17:14.960 --> 03:17:17.270
and as many of you are aware,
03:17:17.270 --> 03:17:21.210
we launched this in
mid of July of last year,
03:17:21.210 --> 03:17:22.630
and I'm happy to report
03:17:22.630 --> 03:17:26.620
we've made some really great
progress by really expanding,
03:17:26.620 --> 03:17:29.980
not only our eligibility criteria
03:17:29.980 --> 03:17:32.930
to involve all of our
Medical Baseline customers,
03:17:32.930 --> 03:17:36.080
but we've also greatly
increased our outreach.
03:17:36.080 --> 03:17:39.570
So as of March 15th,
we have more enrollments
03:17:39.570 --> 03:17:42.850
in our critical care
backup battery program
03:17:42.850 --> 03:17:45.160
than we did all of last year,
03:17:45.160 --> 03:17:47.130
so we've really stepped
up our efforts there
03:17:47.130 --> 03:17:49.430
and happy to announce that.
03:17:49.430 --> 03:17:53.610
In terms of our partnerships
with our AFN community,
03:17:53.610 --> 03:17:57.470
we have partnered with
organizations such as 2-1-1,
03:17:57.470 --> 03:18:00.950
starting in 2019 to help
with backup batteries
03:18:00.950 --> 03:18:04.370
as well as other services
like transportation,
03:18:04.370 --> 03:18:07.090
we've also partnered with
the independent living centers
03:18:07.090 --> 03:18:09.450
to help with battery donations as well
03:18:10.670 --> 03:18:12.740
and we work very
closely with our network
03:18:12.740 --> 03:18:17.010
of 1600 community-based
organizations to help to partner
03:18:17.010 --> 03:18:20.630
to understand the needs
of our AFN populations.
03:18:20.630 --> 03:18:24.280
We also have portable
backup battery programs
03:18:24.280 --> 03:18:26.960
in case we have
customers that don't meet
03:18:26.960 --> 03:18:30.780
some of the income eligibility
of our other programs.
03:18:30.780 --> 03:18:32.790
And then lastly, I just wanna mention
03:18:32.790 --> 03:18:36.170
that I really see this
as a funnel approach
03:18:36.170 --> 03:18:39.110
and instead of just the
backup battery programs,
03:18:39.110 --> 03:18:41.790
we are expanding our
marketing and outreach
03:18:41.790 --> 03:18:44.050
so that more and more
customers can be enrolled
03:18:44.050 --> 03:18:45.757
in our Medical Baseline program as well.
03:18:45.757 --> 03:18:48.290
And I'm sure we'll talk more that,
03:18:48.290 --> 03:18:51.490
but I just wanted to mention
that, and we have been talking
03:18:51.490 --> 03:18:55.450
with members of our
Statewide AFN council,
03:18:55.450 --> 03:18:58.250
such as Eric Luther and Christina Mills,
03:18:58.250 --> 03:19:01.560
about leveraging other organizations
03:19:01.560 --> 03:19:05.360
such as the in-home support
services and regional centers
03:19:05.360 --> 03:19:08.550
to really reach that age
and population to expand,
03:19:08.550 --> 03:19:10.860
and so actually today and tomorrow,
03:19:10.860 --> 03:19:12.700
we're holding training sessions
03:19:12.700 --> 03:19:14.750
on our Medical Baseline program
03:19:14.750 --> 03:19:17.780
with County health care workers of IHFS
03:19:17.780 --> 03:19:20.940
and we've gotten a
really big turnout so far,
03:19:20.940 --> 03:19:22.470
so just a quick overview,
03:19:22.470 --> 03:19:24.300
some of the things that we're doing
03:19:24.300 --> 03:19:28.750
and Susan, lastly, we measure
our progress with our CPOs
03:19:28.750 --> 03:19:31.940
with monthly reports in
terms of engagements as well.
03:19:31.940 --> 03:19:33.450
So thank you.
03:19:33.450 --> 03:19:35.560
Sure, can I just ask
you a quick question,
03:19:35.560 --> 03:19:38.830
quick follow-ups since
the other folks mentioned
03:19:38.830 --> 03:19:40.770
and it will say what's time later,
03:19:40.770 --> 03:19:43.680
do you have an idea of a number of,
03:19:43.680 --> 03:19:46.050
you were talking about these batteries
03:19:46.050 --> 03:19:48.337
that have been deployed in 2020
03:19:48.337 --> 03:19:50.160
and if there was some leftover
03:19:50.160 --> 03:19:52.800
and what the plan is for 2021?
03:19:52.800 --> 03:19:56.100
Like the number of batteries
you might be deploying?
03:19:56.100 --> 03:19:57.533
Yeah, sure, definitely.
03:19:58.380 --> 03:20:00.750
So as everyone might be aware,
03:20:00.750 --> 03:20:03.660
we did have a bit
of a late start in 2020
03:20:03.660 --> 03:20:07.560
and so what we are
aiming for this year in 2021
03:20:07.560 --> 03:20:10.300
is our expanded population
03:20:10.300 --> 03:20:13.020
for our critical care
backup battery program
03:20:13.020 --> 03:20:17.940
is at about 12,000 customers,
that's our top number
03:20:17.940 --> 03:20:21.370
in terms of our eligibility,
according to our database.
03:20:21.370 --> 03:20:23.510
So our goal is that we can make
03:20:23.510 --> 03:20:26.363
the critical care
backup battery program,
03:20:28.260 --> 03:20:30.810
we wanna make our
customers all 12,000 aware,
03:20:30.810 --> 03:20:31.900
which we have been doing
03:20:31.900 --> 03:20:35.890
through multiple direct
mail letters and calls
03:20:35.890 --> 03:20:39.640
and so our goal is that to get
as many of our batteries out
03:20:39.640 --> 03:20:42.430
to as many of those
customers as possible
03:20:42.430 --> 03:20:43.330
Okay, thank you.
03:20:45.910 --> 03:20:50.670
Hi there, this is David van
Dyken, just a quick time check
03:20:50.670 --> 03:20:55.453
that we have 30
minutes left in our panel.
03:21:00.850 --> 03:21:03.397
Okay, I think PacifiCorp
is gonna answer,
03:21:03.397 --> 03:21:08.360
and then I think Eric or
others, that's a question.
03:21:08.360 --> 03:21:13.360
Yeah, hi PacifiCorp
but, you know,
03:21:13.720 --> 03:21:15.550
I kind of talked a little
bit and touched base
03:21:15.550 --> 03:21:20.270
on the footprint of
our service territories,
03:21:20.270 --> 03:21:25.270
11,000 square miles with 45,
approximately 45,000 customers.
03:21:25.780 --> 03:21:30.010
So one of the most critical
relationships that we have
03:21:30.010 --> 03:21:32.450
is the community-based organizations,
03:21:32.450 --> 03:21:35.210
if they're one of the
most vital touch points
03:21:35.210 --> 03:21:40.210
for their customers and
we have a developing,
03:21:40.210 --> 03:21:42.880
we will continue to have
partnership with them
03:21:42.880 --> 03:21:46.030
in order to get information
out to our customers
03:21:46.030 --> 03:21:51.030
regarding the PSPS and wildfire safety.
03:21:51.420 --> 03:21:52.420
As a matter of fact,
03:21:53.480 --> 03:21:56.030
we're looking at a more
wraparound service
03:21:56.030 --> 03:21:59.700
so we're able to provide
information on low income rates,
03:21:59.700 --> 03:22:03.573
weatherization, Medical
Baseline eligibility,
03:22:04.450 --> 03:22:06.490
wildfire mitigation plans,
03:22:06.490 --> 03:22:09.150
additional notification prior to a PSPS,
03:22:09.150 --> 03:22:13.183
So we really partner with and
rely heavily on those agencies
03:22:13.183 --> 03:22:17.190
to help us get the message
out to our customers
03:22:17.190 --> 03:22:19.350
that are most in need.
03:22:19.350 --> 03:22:23.330
As part of our Pacific Power
community resiliency program,
03:22:23.330 --> 03:22:28.330
we are just offering grants for
renewable backup generators,
03:22:28.670 --> 03:22:31.360
the intent of that is to work
03:22:31.360 --> 03:22:35.000
with the county emergency
management services
03:22:35.000 --> 03:22:39.830
to be able to deploy
those backup generators
03:22:39.830 --> 03:22:44.100
to critical needs customers
that are needing the extra help
03:22:44.100 --> 03:22:47.330
with oxygen or any other
types of metal equipment
03:22:47.330 --> 03:22:51.670
in anticipation of a PSPS,
so that is a new program,
03:22:51.670 --> 03:22:54.420
I look forward to reporting
more on that later,
03:22:54.420 --> 03:22:55.537
so thank you.
03:22:56.820 --> 03:22:57.800
Thank you all.
03:22:57.800 --> 03:22:59.750
Carruthers, you
have other questions?
03:23:00.600 --> 03:23:01.590
Yeah, thank you so much,
03:23:01.590 --> 03:23:03.670
I'm glad you brought the
Medical Baseline program
03:23:03.670 --> 03:23:07.080
because it's a rebate,
it's a discount program,
03:23:07.080 --> 03:23:10.720
its rate was never designed
to be used for a PSPS
03:23:10.720 --> 03:23:12.923
or emergency management capacity.
03:23:13.770 --> 03:23:17.020
The AFN community has been uniform
03:23:17.020 --> 03:23:19.010
in our advice to the IOUs,
03:23:19.010 --> 03:23:21.780
move away from the Medical Baseline,
03:23:21.780 --> 03:23:23.080
we've urged that you instead,
03:23:23.080 --> 03:23:25.410
you've been more effective and
meaningful customer program
03:23:25.410 --> 03:23:29.676
to be developed to support
vulnerable customers,
03:23:29.676 --> 03:23:32.870
we've proposed alternate
ways that are more inclusive,
03:23:32.870 --> 03:23:34.460
Medical Baseline was
never designed to be this.
03:23:34.460 --> 03:23:35.640
Additionally, it doesn't have the reach
03:23:35.640 --> 03:23:37.890
of the saturation it needs to have,
03:23:37.890 --> 03:23:42.470
but the reports that SCE
gave to the CPUC in December
03:23:42.470 --> 03:23:45.720
for a 10-day event in their
region, they were very proud
03:23:45.720 --> 03:23:50.310
that all 798 customers who
were impacted were reached.
03:23:50.310 --> 03:23:52.530
This is evidence to us
03:23:52.530 --> 03:23:56.160
that this program is resource intensive,
03:23:56.160 --> 03:23:59.723
it's labor intensive and
it's not getting the reach,
03:24:00.710 --> 03:24:02.960
I've consistently
advocated that there needs
03:24:02.960 --> 03:24:05.070
to be a different way and
I guess my question is,
03:24:05.070 --> 03:24:06.920
why haven't the IOUs moved away
03:24:06.920 --> 03:24:08.810
from the Medical Baseline model
03:24:08.810 --> 03:24:12.910
and developed a new,
clear, inclusive, proactive plan
03:24:12.910 --> 03:24:15.410
that can be in place for
the next wildfire season.
03:24:19.890 --> 03:24:21.440
Let's start with summer PG&E.
03:24:25.750 --> 03:24:27.973
Thank you, Aaron
for that question.
03:24:28.880 --> 03:24:33.770
You know, I understand your concern,
03:24:33.770 --> 03:24:36.260
we definitely feel like
we've been successful
03:24:36.260 --> 03:24:40.320
with our Medical
Baseline programs thus far.
03:24:40.320 --> 03:24:43.240
We have about 12,000 customers
03:24:43.240 --> 03:24:45.620
in our high fire threat districts
03:24:45.620 --> 03:24:50.620
that are a part of our Medical
Baseline customer program
03:24:50.640 --> 03:24:55.640
although we're open to
hearing and listening today
03:24:55.960 --> 03:24:58.590
in terms of recommendations
and suggestions
03:24:58.590 --> 03:25:01.070
that some of you may have.
03:25:01.070 --> 03:25:03.670
I'd like to give Danielle an opportunity
03:25:03.670 --> 03:25:05.480
to expand on some of the ways
03:25:05.480 --> 03:25:08.690
that we utilize our
Medical Baseline program
03:25:08.690 --> 03:25:11.783
to support this function,
but as I stated before,
03:25:15.770 --> 03:25:19.320
we feel confident that we're
doing everything we can
03:25:19.320 --> 03:25:21.450
to notify and reach out
but we're here to learn
03:25:21.450 --> 03:25:23.870
and try to get
recommendations on other things
03:25:23.870 --> 03:25:27.590
that you all may want
us to look at and consider,
03:25:27.590 --> 03:25:30.160
so we're all ears but I would
like Danielle to elaborate
03:25:30.160 --> 03:25:31.300
on some of the things we are doing
03:25:31.300 --> 03:25:32.713
related to Medical Baseline.
03:25:34.686 --> 03:25:35.570
Thanks Tashonda
03:25:35.570 --> 03:25:37.570
and thank you, Aaron, for that question.
03:25:38.550 --> 03:25:40.200
Can you hear me okay?
03:25:41.353 --> 03:25:43.250
Yes Danielle, we can hear you.
03:25:43.250 --> 03:25:46.840
Yeah, thanks, I had a
little bit of a headset issue.
03:25:46.840 --> 03:25:47.860
Thank you, Aaron,
03:25:47.860 --> 03:25:50.720
I would like to think that we
are heading down that path
03:25:50.720 --> 03:25:52.390
and that we've made some progress.
03:25:52.390 --> 03:25:55.370
As you know, in 2020, we
really did start to develop
03:25:55.370 --> 03:25:57.850
a program that's
dedicated to our customers
03:25:57.850 --> 03:25:59.880
with access and
functional needs separately
03:25:59.880 --> 03:26:01.150
from Medical Baseline
03:26:01.150 --> 03:26:05.200
and that really encompasses
our partnership with 2-1-1,
03:26:05.200 --> 03:26:08.453
with Jewish family services,
in fact and with many others,
03:26:08.453 --> 03:26:11.420
it's really about providing
support during PSPS events
03:26:11.420 --> 03:26:14.650
and it's really separate
from Medical Baseline
03:26:14.650 --> 03:26:17.320
but to your point, that has been a way
03:26:17.320 --> 03:26:20.210
to identify customers
who might need assistance
03:26:20.210 --> 03:26:22.780
and as that is one of the
programs that we do have,
03:26:22.780 --> 03:26:25.560
we have continued to in parallel,
03:26:25.560 --> 03:26:28.080
continued to more heavily
market Medical Baseline
03:26:28.080 --> 03:26:30.890
as something we wanna
continue in parallel with doing,
03:26:30.890 --> 03:26:33.170
to make sure that
customers who are eligible
03:26:33.170 --> 03:26:35.240
to receive the benefits of that program
03:26:35.240 --> 03:26:37.850
while we work with stakeholders
like yourself and others
03:26:37.850 --> 03:26:40.520
to figure out how we
enhance the broader approach
03:26:40.520 --> 03:26:43.020
to our customers with
access and functional needs.
03:26:47.340 --> 03:26:49.110
I think the answers
so far are really helpful,
03:26:49.110 --> 03:26:50.437
because what I'm hearing is that
03:26:50.437 --> 03:26:53.070
and we've had the conversation
for again a year and a half
03:26:53.070 --> 03:26:55.490
at the Statewide ASN body
03:26:55.490 --> 03:26:59.260
and it sounds like this
might be new request
03:26:59.260 --> 03:27:00.970
or new approach or new information,
03:27:00.970 --> 03:27:05.470
so I'd like to give me
more engagement there,
03:27:05.470 --> 03:27:08.053
or Andy I think you had a follow up.
03:27:15.060 --> 03:27:18.050
Actually, I think
Christina Mills is gonna go next
03:27:18.050 --> 03:27:20.100
and then I'm happy
to go after Christina.
03:27:22.410 --> 03:27:23.960
Thanks Andy, can you hear me?
03:27:25.490 --> 03:27:27.580
Great to see everyone today,
03:27:27.580 --> 03:27:29.881
Commissioner Rechtschaffen
, great to see you
03:27:29.881 --> 03:27:32.331
in a different environment
besides voice options.
03:27:33.850 --> 03:27:35.230
I wanna get straight to the point,
03:27:35.230 --> 03:27:39.253
I know time is of the essence, the CDC,
03:27:40.520 --> 03:27:43.050
sorry, the CDC reported last year
03:27:43.050 --> 03:27:46.010
that one in four people
across the nation
03:27:46.010 --> 03:27:49.260
has some sort of
disability or chronic illness.
03:27:49.260 --> 03:27:52.030
Can each of you
definitively say that your IOU
03:27:52.030 --> 03:27:55.290
has identified customers
who rely on power
03:27:55.290 --> 03:27:58.270
to maintain life-sustaining
medical devices
03:27:58.270 --> 03:28:01.410
or assistive technology
when the power goes out?
03:28:01.410 --> 03:28:03.370
That's question one,
03:28:03.370 --> 03:28:05.380
and then what strategy
are you going to use
03:28:05.380 --> 03:28:08.100
to identify customers moving forward,
03:28:08.100 --> 03:28:10.690
and how many total AFN customers
03:28:10.690 --> 03:28:13.760
is your company currently
tracking and supporting
03:28:13.760 --> 03:28:15.623
during a PSPS event?
03:28:20.200 --> 03:28:24.783
Okay, let's ask, kind
of SDG&E here go first.
03:28:30.180 --> 03:28:31.130
Go ahead Vanessa.
03:28:31.970 --> 03:28:34.373
Thank you Laurie,
sorry for jumping in there.
03:28:35.210 --> 03:28:36.440
Christina, thanks for the question.
03:28:36.440 --> 03:28:39.410
I mean, we've had this
conversation continuously, right?
03:28:39.410 --> 03:28:43.570
This is a challenge that we recognize,
03:28:43.570 --> 03:28:45.070
so an answer to your question
03:28:45.070 --> 03:28:47.130
about have we accurately identified,
03:28:47.130 --> 03:28:50.050
I think we have made a big improvement
03:28:50.050 --> 03:28:51.260
and what I mean by that
03:28:51.260 --> 03:28:54.320
is we have grown our
Medical Baseline population
03:28:54.320 --> 03:28:56.780
by over 26% in the last year,
03:28:56.780 --> 03:28:59.760
we've already grown
by another 5% this year,
03:28:59.760 --> 03:29:02.390
but we recognize that it's
more than just Medical Baseline,
03:29:02.390 --> 03:29:04.180
Aaron, to your comment
03:29:04.180 --> 03:29:08.960
and so we are incorporating
additional categories
03:29:08.960 --> 03:29:11.740
into how we're identifying AFN customers
03:29:11.740 --> 03:29:14.270
and that includes
customers that self-identify
03:29:14.270 --> 03:29:16.700
to receive an in-person
visit before disconnection
03:29:16.700 --> 03:29:19.480
for nonpayment
customers that self-identify
03:29:19.480 --> 03:29:22.690
as having a person with a
disability in the household,
03:29:22.690 --> 03:29:26.160
customers who self-select to
receive utility communications
03:29:26.160 --> 03:29:29.320
in a non-standard format and
then customers who indicate
03:29:29.320 --> 03:29:32.430
a non-English language
preference, we all should note
03:29:32.430 --> 03:29:34.730
that we have customers
who would be considered
03:29:34.730 --> 03:29:36.640
part of the access and
functional needs community
03:29:36.640 --> 03:29:39.720
that are part of our
care and our programs.
03:29:39.720 --> 03:29:41.970
So it's a much broader program.
03:29:41.970 --> 03:29:44.360
The next question though becomes,
03:29:44.360 --> 03:29:48.290
what do those customer groups
need and how does it differ?
03:29:48.290 --> 03:29:50.020
And if someone is reliant on power
03:29:50.020 --> 03:29:52.910
for a medical device needs, for example,
03:29:52.910 --> 03:29:54.250
their needs are much different
03:29:54.250 --> 03:29:58.410
than someone maybe who is low income.
03:29:58.410 --> 03:30:00.010
And so what PG&E has done
03:30:00.010 --> 03:30:03.388
is we are partnering
with healthcare providers.
03:30:03.388 --> 03:30:05.500
So we've had conversations
with a number of providers,
03:30:05.500 --> 03:30:08.740
they are promoting our Medical
Baseline program accordingly
03:30:08.740 --> 03:30:10.770
with the individuals
that they engage with,
03:30:10.770 --> 03:30:14.640
who that may be receiving
these devices that they need
03:30:14.640 --> 03:30:19.640
to rely upon and we we
are also along the same lines
03:30:22.830 --> 03:30:25.340
that Jessica mentioned,
making sure that we're engaging
03:30:25.340 --> 03:30:28.760
with IHSS and that we're
doing the appropriate training
03:30:28.760 --> 03:30:31.140
so that folks can
help customers identify
03:30:31.140 --> 03:30:33.460
that this might be the
right program for them.
03:30:33.460 --> 03:30:36.190
Now, folks may not want
to fill out an application,
03:30:36.190 --> 03:30:37.690
they may not be able to visit a doctor
03:30:37.690 --> 03:30:38.850
to get that certification
03:30:38.850 --> 03:30:41.580
so recognize that
customers who self-identify
03:30:41.580 --> 03:30:43.690
to receive an in-person
visit before disconnection
03:30:43.690 --> 03:30:45.510
also need to be considered.
03:30:45.510 --> 03:30:47.740
Both our Medical Baseline
program customers
03:30:47.740 --> 03:30:49.380
and individuals who self-identify
03:30:49.380 --> 03:30:52.030
to receive an in-person
visit before disconnection
03:30:52.030 --> 03:30:54.640
will receive the regular notifications
03:30:54.640 --> 03:30:56.330
that every customer receives,
03:30:56.330 --> 03:30:58.890
they will receive hourly
retries to make sure
03:30:58.890 --> 03:31:00.560
that they received the notification
03:31:00.560 --> 03:31:02.395
and if they do not acknowledge,
03:31:02.395 --> 03:31:06.590
we will complete a door
knock to make sure that in fact
03:31:06.590 --> 03:31:08.870
they are aware that the
Public Safety Power Shutoff
03:31:08.870 --> 03:31:10.260
is occurring.
03:31:10.260 --> 03:31:13.060
The Medical Baseline
program does help us prioritize
03:31:13.060 --> 03:31:15.800
because we've done
analysis and when we look at
03:31:15.800 --> 03:31:20.630
to your point, Christina, our
entire population of customers
03:31:21.470 --> 03:31:23.970
based on census data
and the data that we have
03:31:23.970 --> 03:31:27.890
in our database, like all
the different categories
03:31:27.890 --> 03:31:29.490
that I previously mentioned,
03:31:29.490 --> 03:31:31.720
we have nearly 80% of our customer base
03:31:31.720 --> 03:31:34.000
that then becomes part
of the AFN population
03:31:34.000 --> 03:31:35.880
and again, we need to prioritize those
03:31:35.880 --> 03:31:38.400
who are going to have
the most vulnerability
03:31:38.400 --> 03:31:40.360
when it comes to the lack of power.
03:31:40.360 --> 03:31:42.717
So the last part that I'll point out
03:31:42.717 --> 03:31:45.300
and then please feel free to
jump in if there's something
03:31:45.300 --> 03:31:47.510
that I didn't answer
that you were looking for,
03:31:47.510 --> 03:31:51.310
is that programs such as
the disability disaster access
03:31:51.310 --> 03:31:55.340
and resources program do not
require that a individual prove
03:31:55.340 --> 03:31:56.920
that they are the customer of record,
03:31:56.920 --> 03:31:59.130
note that they are part of
the Medical Baseline program,
03:31:59.130 --> 03:32:02.150
it is simply something that
they can take advantage of
03:32:02.150 --> 03:32:05.230
if they are impacted by
PSPS and they were reliant
03:32:05.230 --> 03:32:07.960
on power for medical and
independent living needs.
03:32:07.960 --> 03:32:10.170
So think we all have an
opportunity to continue
03:32:10.170 --> 03:32:12.450
to promote the applicable programs.
03:32:12.450 --> 03:32:16.680
We are exploring a opportunity to learn
03:32:16.680 --> 03:32:19.270
from San Diego Gas and
Electric and their relationship
03:32:19.270 --> 03:32:23.280
with 2-1-1 and I think we'll
continue the conversation
03:32:23.280 --> 03:32:25.530
about how we better identify,
03:32:25.530 --> 03:32:27.500
and then the second piece really is
03:32:27.500 --> 03:32:29.780
what then is the appropriate treatment
03:32:29.780 --> 03:32:31.800
depending on that identification
03:32:31.800 --> 03:32:34.360
or what are the additional
needs of that component
03:32:34.360 --> 03:32:36.640
of the populations that
we can best serve them?
03:32:36.640 --> 03:32:39.450
And we certainly rely on
community-based organizations
03:32:39.450 --> 03:32:41.270
to help broaden our message.
03:32:41.270 --> 03:32:43.000
The final piece that I will add
03:32:43.000 --> 03:32:44.930
that we were asked
about earlier this morning
03:32:44.930 --> 03:32:46.680
is our address alerts.
03:32:46.680 --> 03:32:51.030
Now, any customer of
any of the utilities is going
03:32:51.030 --> 03:32:54.030
to receive notification in
advance of a PSPS event
03:32:54.030 --> 03:32:56.750
but we recognize that not
everyone is a customer of record,
03:32:56.750 --> 03:32:58.500
they're not all account holders.
03:32:58.500 --> 03:33:03.160
So at PG&E, we have launched
the zip code alerts in 2020
03:33:03.160 --> 03:33:05.760
and we received feedback
through our people
03:33:05.760 --> 03:33:08.220
with disabilities and
aging advisory council
03:33:08.220 --> 03:33:10.730
that those communications were too broad
03:33:10.730 --> 03:33:12.790
and they were actually
causing some confusion.
03:33:12.790 --> 03:33:15.230
The suggestion was,
can you get more specific
03:33:15.230 --> 03:33:18.460
and so we are happy to report
that we have address alerts
03:33:18.460 --> 03:33:21.410
that can be received in phone or text,
03:33:21.410 --> 03:33:23.830
so interactive voice response or text.
03:33:23.830 --> 03:33:27.380
There in 16 languages
total, they are live now,
03:33:27.380 --> 03:33:32.270
we are going to launch a
multichannel promotional campaign
03:33:32.270 --> 03:33:35.670
to make sure that individuals
are aware of this option
03:33:35.670 --> 03:33:39.100
beginning next month and
that is going to be advertising,
03:33:39.100 --> 03:33:41.550
and it's gonna be direct
mail to a number of renters
03:33:41.550 --> 03:33:42.800
that we've been able to identify
03:33:42.800 --> 03:33:44.730
that are not our customers of record,
03:33:44.730 --> 03:33:45.920
we're certainly gonna rely
03:33:45.920 --> 03:33:48.650
on our community-based
organizations to promote this,
03:33:48.650 --> 03:33:52.560
and then the account holders
of our master metered accounts,
03:33:52.560 --> 03:33:56.270
as well as individuals who hold account
03:33:56.270 --> 03:33:58.560
for multi-tenant dwellings,
03:33:58.560 --> 03:34:01.380
so that they have this
information that they can post
03:34:01.380 --> 03:34:03.720
around their locations and make sure
03:34:03.720 --> 03:34:07.130
that we're really penetrating
the population that needs
03:34:07.130 --> 03:34:11.170
to be able to get notification
directly from the utility
03:34:11.170 --> 03:34:13.570
for the exact address
that they're interested in
03:34:16.448 --> 03:34:17.670
Thanks Vanessa
Thanks so much
03:34:17.670 --> 03:34:19.800
I think rather than
go to the other three,
03:34:19.800 --> 03:34:21.950
are you subscribed
to Andy, first question?
03:34:24.070 --> 03:34:26.030
Okay, thanks Vance.
03:34:26.030 --> 03:34:29.140
I guess, what I think
a lot of us are realizing
03:34:29.140 --> 03:34:31.550
is we had too many questions
03:34:31.550 --> 03:34:35.250
and the responses it's
we're just not gonna get
03:34:35.250 --> 03:34:36.730
through everything we wanted to ask.
03:34:36.730 --> 03:34:40.490
So I guess I just wanted
to kind of take it to a little bit
03:34:40.490 --> 03:34:42.840
of a bigger picture level.
03:34:42.840 --> 03:34:44.890
I think what you're
hearing from those of us
03:34:44.890 --> 03:34:46.840
who've been asked to
come and ask questions
03:34:46.840 --> 03:34:51.840
from the disability community
is we wanna see a higher level
03:34:52.210 --> 03:34:55.990
of the conversation and we
think if we get a higher level
03:34:55.990 --> 03:34:59.060
of conversation we'll
accelerate decision-making
03:34:59.060 --> 03:35:03.490
and accelerate progress in
a way that's gonna save lives
03:35:03.490 --> 03:35:08.490
and make the Public Safety
Power Shutoffs do less harm
03:35:09.130 --> 03:35:11.933
to the people who experience
harm when they happen.
03:35:13.210 --> 03:35:16.220
So I guess what I would
ask on behalf of our group
03:35:16.220 --> 03:35:19.740
is if there's an opportunity
for us to have a meeting
03:35:19.740 --> 03:35:24.070
with leaders in the utilities
03:35:24.070 --> 03:35:26.020
that are represented here today
03:35:26.020 --> 03:35:29.370
ideally at an SVP level or up
03:35:29.370 --> 03:35:31.840
where we can have a little bit more time
03:35:31.840 --> 03:35:36.380
to kind of get through all of
our questions and suggestions
03:35:36.380 --> 03:35:40.620
and then come back to
the CPUC with a report out
03:35:40.620 --> 03:35:42.640
after we've had a
chance to really go through
03:35:42.640 --> 03:35:45.393
some of the issues that
we're not gonna get to today.
03:35:46.470 --> 03:35:48.940
We would really appreciate
it and if we could do that
03:35:48.940 --> 03:35:50.650
before the end of May,
03:35:50.650 --> 03:35:52.750
at least to have the meeting
before the end of May
03:35:52.750 --> 03:35:56.160
so that it can be impact what happens
03:35:56.160 --> 03:35:59.070
in the upcoming fire
season, that would be ideal.
03:35:59.070 --> 03:36:01.273
So I'll just put that request out there.
03:36:04.136 --> 03:36:05.860
And again, this is
David Van Dyken,
03:36:05.860 --> 03:36:10.343
quick time check, we have
15 minutes left in our panel.
03:36:12.770 --> 03:36:15.060
Okay, so for Andres' question,
03:36:15.060 --> 03:36:16.713
but I can see Nicole on the line,
03:36:18.819 --> 03:36:21.173
So let me start with SDG&E.
03:36:24.640 --> 03:36:26.570
Thank you Andy
for that question
03:36:26.570 --> 03:36:29.290
and we would love the
opportunity to have a meeting
03:36:29.290 --> 03:36:34.290
to further discuss what more
we can do, share some details,
03:36:34.890 --> 03:36:36.290
more details about the program
03:36:36.290 --> 03:36:40.260
but also just hear your concerns
03:36:40.260 --> 03:36:44.350
and figure out what more we
can do to try to address those
03:36:44.350 --> 03:36:46.737
hopefully before the
upcoming fire season.
03:36:46.737 --> 03:36:50.190
The only thing I would ask is I think
03:36:50.190 --> 03:36:53.240
at the vice-president
level would be fine,
03:36:53.240 --> 03:36:55.780
but I think you hear a
lot of senior advisors
03:36:55.780 --> 03:36:58.720
and managers on this call
representing our companies
03:36:58.720 --> 03:37:01.630
that are on the front lines
working with our CDOs,
03:37:01.630 --> 03:37:06.630
working with our organizations
like 2-1-1 San Diego,
03:37:07.020 --> 03:37:10.350
Orange County, the
other cities represented,
03:37:10.350 --> 03:37:13.630
working on a lot of initiatives
03:37:13.630 --> 03:37:17.680
that could also add
additional context, color,
03:37:17.680 --> 03:37:19.460
and recommendation to the program,
03:37:19.460 --> 03:37:22.470
so I wouldn't wanna leave them out,
03:37:22.470 --> 03:37:25.120
but I also recognize that
at the leadership level,
03:37:25.120 --> 03:37:26.640
accountability stops with us
03:37:26.640 --> 03:37:29.780
and I would welcome to
have that conversation.
03:37:32.340 --> 03:37:33.590
Okay and SCE.
03:37:35.440 --> 03:37:37.953
Thank you, I echo
Tashanda's comments.
03:37:38.810 --> 03:37:41.200
We would welcome
that opportunity as well,
03:37:41.200 --> 03:37:45.090
and in fact, I think having
those ongoing conversations
03:37:45.090 --> 03:37:47.970
and that dialogue will
help us reach those
03:37:47.970 --> 03:37:50.840
go forward solutions that
may not be in front of us today,
03:37:50.840 --> 03:37:53.940
I think more heads
together thinking about
03:37:53.940 --> 03:37:56.710
what we can do differently
than what we've done in the past
03:37:56.710 --> 03:37:59.170
is a good next step and welcome
03:37:59.170 --> 03:38:01.520
that opportunity to participate.
03:38:01.520 --> 03:38:06.520
I would also extend and this
is my personal perspective,
03:38:06.990 --> 03:38:10.770
coming from a publicly
owned utility prior
03:38:10.770 --> 03:38:12.563
to an investor owned.
03:38:13.400 --> 03:38:15.550
It might be good to
reach out to other utilities
03:38:15.550 --> 03:38:18.360
and broaden the circle a little bit.
03:38:18.360 --> 03:38:20.850
I think that most utilities
03:38:20.850 --> 03:38:25.850
if not all have similar challenges
03:38:27.010 --> 03:38:31.297
and making our populations,
the AFN population,
03:38:31.297 --> 03:38:33.250
and perhaps there's
other learnings there
03:38:33.250 --> 03:38:35.203
that we can address them after,
03:38:36.084 --> 03:38:38.663
so that's just another idea to consider.
03:38:42.380 --> 03:38:45.823
Thanks Nicole, PacifiCorp?
03:38:47.510 --> 03:38:48.860
Yeah.
03:38:48.860 --> 03:38:50.710
I think that's a wonderful idea.
03:38:50.710 --> 03:38:55.710
I definitely see that increased
understanding and listening
03:38:56.850 --> 03:38:59.960
and being able to understand,
03:38:59.960 --> 03:39:02.792
like you said, gave a lot of questions
03:39:02.792 --> 03:39:05.390
I may not have been able to answer them
03:39:05.390 --> 03:39:08.510
or provide the detail
you're looking for,
03:39:08.510 --> 03:39:13.370
so we're always open to more
dialogue and more communication
03:39:13.370 --> 03:39:17.930
because it just leads to a
better understanding of the needs
03:39:17.930 --> 03:39:22.270
and tapping into your
expertise in the work that you do.
03:39:22.270 --> 03:39:24.030
So I would say absolutely, yes,
03:39:24.030 --> 03:39:26.230
that would be something
we'd be willing to do,
03:39:26.230 --> 03:39:28.930
and like other utilities have stated,
03:39:28.930 --> 03:39:33.930
I think the managers
and the directors also
03:39:34.100 --> 03:39:36.570
that are boots on the ground
that are doing the work,
03:39:36.570 --> 03:39:39.760
it would be invaluable
as part of that process.
03:39:39.760 --> 03:39:40.767
So, thank you.
03:39:43.250 --> 03:39:44.333
Okay, PG&E.
03:39:47.180 --> 03:39:49.390
We'd be happy to participate.
03:39:49.390 --> 03:39:52.980
We think by bringing
all of the IOUs together,
03:39:52.980 --> 03:39:55.580
along with those that are appropriate
03:39:55.580 --> 03:39:58.763
to really have a broader
discussion would be really helpful.
03:39:59.630 --> 03:40:02.970
You have my commitment along with Sumeet
03:40:02.970 --> 03:40:05.640
who was here earlier today and Aaron
03:40:05.640 --> 03:40:10.020
that we as senior leaders
will be ready to engage
03:40:10.020 --> 03:40:11.770
and participate along with our teams.
03:40:11.770 --> 03:40:14.510
So we welcome the opportunity.
03:40:14.510 --> 03:40:17.110
I would offer, we've
learned so much being part
03:40:17.110 --> 03:40:22.110
of the state agency
collaborative on this issue,
03:40:22.350 --> 03:40:26.510
as well as having our
own council at PG&E,
03:40:26.510 --> 03:40:29.290
so I hope that we can
leverage the learnings
03:40:29.290 --> 03:40:31.293
from that extended group as well.
03:40:34.150 --> 03:40:36.065
Okay, thanks.
03:40:36.065 --> 03:40:37.232
Thanks Laurie.
03:40:38.417 --> 03:40:41.453
Any queries, think we've
got another question for you.
03:40:42.760 --> 03:40:44.030
Thanks Vance.
03:40:44.030 --> 03:40:45.470
It's been really interesting
03:40:45.470 --> 03:40:48.560
and I hope everybody's
walking away with a new sense
03:40:48.560 --> 03:40:50.260
of understanding for this conversation
03:40:50.260 --> 03:40:53.230
because after having been
engaged in conversations
03:40:53.230 --> 03:40:54.910
for a year, year and a half,
03:40:54.910 --> 03:40:59.910
what I'm taking away is really
a sense of pride in the work
03:40:59.920 --> 03:41:03.280
that the IOU's are doing and
there seems to be a disconnect
03:41:03.280 --> 03:41:08.280
because we just don't think,
we're talking about progress,
03:41:09.040 --> 03:41:12.037
you're talking about
progress with 5% to 25%
03:41:12.037 --> 03:41:15.450
and what we're talking about
of any progress like 5000%.
03:41:15.450 --> 03:41:19.560
We need huge numbers
of expansion and proactive,
03:41:19.560 --> 03:41:22.160
inclusive ways to get there.
03:41:22.160 --> 03:41:25.320
And through the different forums,
03:41:25.320 --> 03:41:27.580
somehow that message
hasn't been getting through.
03:41:27.580 --> 03:41:31.370
So I'm hoping that today that
message is getting through.
03:41:31.370 --> 03:41:33.350
I'm hoping that our conversations
03:41:34.564 --> 03:41:37.200
I understand you need
to have a field expertise
03:41:37.200 --> 03:41:39.030
but senior level management,
03:41:39.030 --> 03:41:42.380
I think has been maybe part
of the barrier has been missing
03:41:42.380 --> 03:41:43.340
in those conversations,
03:41:43.340 --> 03:41:45.510
so I'm hoping that our
follow-up conversations,
03:41:45.510 --> 03:41:49.500
whether you come to the
Statewide ASN task force,
03:41:49.500 --> 03:41:53.810
or we come in and meet just
in a smaller group is important.
03:41:53.810 --> 03:41:56.970
So let's start drilling down
03:41:56.970 --> 03:41:58.733
on some of those issues together.
03:42:00.089 --> 03:42:01.710
And some of the questions
that we still have remaining is,
03:42:01.710 --> 03:42:04.560
what is the escalation
process and outcomes
03:42:04.560 --> 03:42:07.100
for AFN customers who
are in need of support
03:42:07.100 --> 03:42:09.700
during an active PSPS event?
03:42:09.700 --> 03:42:13.740
How do disabled ASN
customers know who to contact,
03:42:13.740 --> 03:42:17.550
but what to do if they need
support during a PSPS event,
03:42:17.550 --> 03:42:19.157
how are the IOU's meeting the needs
03:42:19.157 --> 03:42:23.230
of the disabled AFN
customers during PSPS events?
03:42:23.230 --> 03:42:26.680
How many AFN customers that
require electric powered medical
03:42:26.680 --> 03:42:28.620
or assistive technology devices,
03:42:28.620 --> 03:42:32.620
did your company provide
resources to in 2020?
03:42:32.620 --> 03:42:34.720
And oftentimes how come
some of these elements
03:42:34.720 --> 03:42:37.050
aren't incorporated into the plans
03:42:37.050 --> 03:42:40.080
that you've submitted to the CPUC?
03:42:40.080 --> 03:42:42.690
We've made recommendations
regarding the effectiveness
03:42:42.690 --> 03:42:46.310
of the battery program that PG&E piloted
03:42:46.310 --> 03:42:48.760
that it should be
expanded to other places,
03:42:48.760 --> 03:42:51.373
we can really see that
incorporated into your plans.
03:42:52.370 --> 03:42:54.340
So I threw a lot out there,
03:42:54.340 --> 03:42:55.860
now, pick one, some or none of them
03:42:55.860 --> 03:43:00.860
but really I'm walking away
heartened by the commitment
03:43:00.980 --> 03:43:04.023
for high level engagement
on these questions.
03:43:07.180 --> 03:43:08.894
All right, thanks Aaron.
03:43:08.894 --> 03:43:12.696
And there was sort of a
multitude of questions ourselves.
03:43:12.696 --> 03:43:13.732
Herb is going to answer.
03:43:13.732 --> 03:43:16.233
I'm going to one of
those, but to Aaron's point
03:43:18.460 --> 03:43:23.460
it's somewhere like the
fab but some or for others,
03:43:23.837 --> 03:43:25.337
in the next couple of minutes,
03:43:26.517 --> 03:43:31.090
and then we'll wrap up the
session with the understanding
03:43:31.090 --> 03:43:33.780
that two things will
happen on the outcome
03:43:33.780 --> 03:43:35.003
or calling a meeting.
03:43:35.880 --> 03:43:38.600
One, perhaps or any
questions that weren't answered
03:43:39.720 --> 03:43:41.717
or ask us to go forward to IOUs
03:43:43.922 --> 03:43:47.643
that way you can see them and
then provide written response,
03:43:48.480 --> 03:43:51.180
and also that sounds like
it'd be a follow on meeting,
03:43:53.180 --> 03:43:57.793
for the groups and IOUs
to discuss these issues.
03:43:59.470 --> 03:44:00.913
Vance, this is Batjer,
03:44:00.913 --> 03:44:03.847
if I may ask a quick question.
03:44:03.847 --> 03:44:05.860
Of course President Batjer.
03:44:05.860 --> 03:44:10.100
Thank you, both Andy and
Aaron talked about the meeting
03:44:10.100 --> 03:44:12.330
and you all getting
together with the IOUs,
03:44:12.330 --> 03:44:14.640
senior leadership, I
think that's all terrific
03:44:14.640 --> 03:44:17.440
but you also talked
about coming back to us
03:44:17.440 --> 03:44:21.220
and reporting back
to us on the learnings
03:44:21.220 --> 03:44:25.060
and what you had perhaps agreed to.
03:44:25.060 --> 03:44:26.410
I would really welcome that,
03:44:26.410 --> 03:44:28.950
I know my fellow
Commissioners would as well.
03:44:28.950 --> 03:44:32.280
So that would be very,
very helpful for us to hear
03:44:33.330 --> 03:44:36.310
and be that better
informed on some of these
03:44:36.310 --> 03:44:40.460
really important questions
like expanding greatly
03:44:41.460 --> 03:44:45.486
and more specifically
into the people of need
03:44:45.486 --> 03:44:48.550
and the numbers that need to increase.
03:44:48.550 --> 03:44:50.550
We have been very worried about it
03:44:50.550 --> 03:44:53.150
and have voiced it almost
every opportunity we could
03:44:54.090 --> 03:44:58.900
particularly in the backup
battery and other types of things
03:44:58.900 --> 03:45:00.370
that need to be done.
03:45:00.370 --> 03:45:04.680
So people that have medical needs
03:45:07.500 --> 03:45:10.990
and financial needs are
not left literally with nothing,
03:45:10.990 --> 03:45:14.500
no electricity and we
also have to worry about
03:45:14.500 --> 03:45:16.220
no telecommunications also.
03:45:16.220 --> 03:45:18.870
So I look forward to you reporting back
03:45:18.870 --> 03:45:23.040
after you have your
meetings and to Andy's point,
03:45:23.040 --> 03:45:25.090
I think it was Andy,
perhaps it was Aaron
03:45:26.240 --> 03:45:29.040
that it needs to happen
before the end of May.
03:45:29.040 --> 03:45:30.900
So if there are things we can institute
03:45:30.900 --> 03:45:33.523
before the height of the fire season,
03:45:34.370 --> 03:45:35.710
that would be very helpful,
03:45:35.710 --> 03:45:39.110
and as chief Porter said this morning,
03:45:39.110 --> 03:45:41.490
we're very concerned about
this upcoming fire season,
03:45:41.490 --> 03:45:43.470
we are in drought conditions,
03:45:43.470 --> 03:45:46.910
severe drought conditions
throughout much of the state now,
03:45:46.910 --> 03:45:49.140
we don't have the snow pack we need
03:45:49.140 --> 03:45:50.810
and there's a lot of fuel.
03:45:50.810 --> 03:45:54.820
So anyway, I would really
welcome hearing back from you
03:45:54.820 --> 03:45:55.770
after your meeting.
03:45:58.590 --> 03:46:01.430
Can I just say something
quickly in response
03:46:01.430 --> 03:46:02.543
to President Batjer?
03:46:03.860 --> 03:46:05.810
I hope I'm pronouncing your name right.
03:46:06.947 --> 03:46:11.110
I just wanna thank you for your comments
03:46:11.110 --> 03:46:14.533
and for understanding
the importance of this issue.
03:46:15.370 --> 03:46:17.480
If there's a meta-message
that I hope you
03:46:17.480 --> 03:46:20.470
and your fellow Commissioners
can take away today,
03:46:20.470 --> 03:46:22.950
is that access and
functional needs issues
03:46:22.950 --> 03:46:24.643
are not small issues,
03:46:25.634 --> 03:46:28.200
they're not niche issues and
they're growing in importance
03:46:28.200 --> 03:46:32.670
as the whole issue
of wildfires is growing
03:46:32.670 --> 03:46:34.470
in importance in California.
03:46:34.470 --> 03:46:37.390
And that if we get these issues right,
03:46:37.390 --> 03:46:40.360
it's gonna help the whole
state be better prepared.
03:46:40.360 --> 03:46:42.880
These issues again, if
we think them through
03:46:42.880 --> 03:46:45.830
and get them right, they
benefit the whole population.
03:46:45.830 --> 03:46:48.220
Any of us can experience an accident,
03:46:48.220 --> 03:46:52.130
a functional need, an access
need in any circumstance.
03:46:52.130 --> 03:46:53.740
So if we think this through,
03:46:53.740 --> 03:46:55.700
it's gonna benefit the whole population,
03:46:55.700 --> 03:46:58.290
and that's why we keep
looking for a higher level
03:46:58.290 --> 03:46:59.820
of leadership on these issues.
03:46:59.820 --> 03:47:01.760
But thank you very
much, President Batjer
03:47:01.760 --> 03:47:02.793
for your leadership.
03:47:04.430 --> 03:47:05.263
Thanks Andy.
03:47:05.263 --> 03:47:07.847
We all need to do
more, we all believe that.
03:47:09.430 --> 03:47:11.480
And this is David Van Dyken,
03:47:11.480 --> 03:47:16.480
we have five minutes left,
so if anybody from our panel
03:47:17.360 --> 03:47:22.360
or the IOUs wanna make
any final thoughts or statements
03:47:24.760 --> 03:47:29.760
or if any of our CPUC
Commissioners have any last thoughts
03:47:31.670 --> 03:47:32.503
or questions.
03:47:36.701 --> 03:47:38.200
Let's leave it
open for a minute,
03:47:38.200 --> 03:47:39.970
and then I've got a
comment but I wanna wait
03:47:39.970 --> 03:47:43.553
and see if anybody has
anything in summary.
03:47:45.520 --> 03:47:48.313
President Batjer,
David, this is Genevieve.
03:47:51.200 --> 03:47:53.690
I didn't wanna have too
many as well but you know,
03:47:53.690 --> 03:47:57.483
the Low Income Oversight
Board back in June,
03:47:57.483 --> 03:48:01.870
a year ago, June, 2020,
did receive an update
03:48:01.870 --> 03:48:05.840
at that point in time about
the efforts being made
03:48:05.840 --> 03:48:08.960
by the utilities for the AFN customers,
03:48:08.960 --> 03:48:13.960
and we heard a little bit
about the non-English speakers
03:48:14.240 --> 03:48:19.240
and also the use of
community-based organizations.
03:48:20.220 --> 03:48:23.003
I think there was some mention of that,
03:48:24.510 --> 03:48:27.690
but if anybody wants
to amplify on that as well
03:48:27.690 --> 03:48:32.690
for older adults, for low-income people
03:48:33.292 --> 03:48:36.930
with physical developmental,
financial disabilities,
03:48:36.930 --> 03:48:41.150
again, any partnerships with
community-based organizations
03:48:41.150 --> 03:48:43.753
to really amplify the work needs.
03:48:47.910 --> 03:48:50.450
Commissioner Shiroma, this
is Vanessa Bryan with PG&E,
03:48:50.450 --> 03:48:52.510
thank you for that question.
03:48:52.510 --> 03:48:55.760
I will tell you that from
a PG&E perspective,
03:48:55.760 --> 03:48:58.870
we've partnered with
five in language CBOs
03:48:58.870 --> 03:49:01.810
to deliver communications to customers
03:49:01.810 --> 03:49:04.390
in indigenous languages before,
03:49:04.390 --> 03:49:06.720
during and after PSPS events.
03:49:06.720 --> 03:49:08.130
We've also partnered with a number
03:49:08.130 --> 03:49:12.960
of multicultural media groups
that can push our message out
03:49:12.960 --> 03:49:15.400
in up to 13 different languages.
03:49:15.400 --> 03:49:18.190
So we recognized that that
is definitely an opportunity,
03:49:18.190 --> 03:49:22.520
we provide them with social media posts
03:49:22.520 --> 03:49:24.030
that they they're ready to go,
03:49:24.030 --> 03:49:26.320
they simply download
them and they can post them,
03:49:26.320 --> 03:49:29.010
there in language, they're
specific to the PSPS events
03:49:29.010 --> 03:49:30.560
so we can help broaden the message
03:49:30.560 --> 03:49:33.793
to individuals where English
isn't a primary language.
03:49:34.946 --> 03:49:37.820
In addition, PG&E just this
week has launched the capability
03:49:37.820 --> 03:49:40.843
for customers to select
any of the 16 languages
03:49:40.843 --> 03:49:44.020
that we offer our notifications
in when they log into
03:49:44.020 --> 03:49:46.740
their account or when
they call the contact center.
03:49:46.740 --> 03:49:48.790
And so they can identify
that they would like
03:49:48.790 --> 03:49:50.880
to receive their
notifications specifically
03:49:50.880 --> 03:49:53.920
in those languages
that we have identified
03:49:53.920 --> 03:49:57.410
as prevalent based
on the previous rulings.
03:49:57.410 --> 03:50:00.110
And the other part that I'd
love to touch on is related
03:50:00.110 --> 03:50:01.800
to our low income customers.
03:50:01.800 --> 03:50:04.850
Aaron, you asked how many
people we actually helped
03:50:04.850 --> 03:50:06.640
or how many people we actually served
03:50:06.640 --> 03:50:08.060
that had medical needs.
03:50:08.060 --> 03:50:13.060
In 2020, we were able
to deliver over 30,000
03:50:13.510 --> 03:50:16.737
food replacement boxes
following PSPS events
03:50:16.737 --> 03:50:19.600
and that was really for the
zip codes that were impacted,
03:50:19.600 --> 03:50:22.080
where we know that there
were low-income customers
03:50:22.080 --> 03:50:26.100
who losing their food
is highly impactful
03:50:26.100 --> 03:50:29.070
and replacement of that food
immediately is more important
03:50:29.070 --> 03:50:31.900
than potentially trying
to process a claim
03:50:31.900 --> 03:50:33.260
or something of that nature.
03:50:33.260 --> 03:50:35.460
So we recognized that
this was the best way
03:50:35.460 --> 03:50:36.770
to get the food back in the hands
03:50:36.770 --> 03:50:38.810
of those individuals who need it.
03:50:38.810 --> 03:50:40.830
In relation to Medical
Baseline customers,
03:50:40.830 --> 03:50:43.640
our customers reliant on
power for medical needs,
03:50:43.640 --> 03:50:45.620
we know that in conjunction with
03:50:46.526 --> 03:50:48.140
the California Foundation
for Independent Living Centers
03:50:48.140 --> 03:50:51.280
and their disability, disaster
access and resources program
03:50:51.280 --> 03:50:54.030
that they engaged with
over 4,500 customers.
03:50:54.030 --> 03:50:55.390
They're making proactive calls
03:50:55.390 --> 03:50:58.510
to individuals they know
already have a plan,
03:50:58.510 --> 03:51:00.483
they're also responding to calls.
03:51:01.380 --> 03:51:02.850
And so from an escalation perspective
03:51:02.850 --> 03:51:06.270
and I think I speak for all
the IOUs we haven't a process
03:51:06.270 --> 03:51:08.530
by which to escalate inquiries
03:51:08.530 --> 03:51:12.170
that come in through our contact
centers during PSPS events,
03:51:12.170 --> 03:51:14.390
where there's a request
for additional assistance,
03:51:14.390 --> 03:51:17.200
and then we can engage
with our CBOs accordingly.
03:51:17.200 --> 03:51:21.420
And that's why that CBO
liaison position is really important
03:51:21.420 --> 03:51:24.290
during our PSPS events and
we've been talking about that
03:51:24.290 --> 03:51:27.060
on our joint IOU calls
that we have weekly
03:51:27.060 --> 03:51:28.700
that I have with Danielle and Jessica.
03:51:28.700 --> 03:51:31.600
So certainly we've been
able to assist people
03:51:31.600 --> 03:51:34.540
but to your point,
there is far more to do,
03:51:34.540 --> 03:51:37.150
I think we're really in our
infancy in what we've been able
03:51:37.150 --> 03:51:39.350
to provide and who we've
been able to partner with,
03:51:39.350 --> 03:51:42.220
and so your continuous
feedback is important,
03:51:42.220 --> 03:51:45.430
and we haven't mentioned
everything in our reports
03:51:45.430 --> 03:51:48.150
that we issue because we
are still working through some
03:51:48.150 --> 03:51:51.880
of that feedback and developing
what that program would be,
03:51:51.880 --> 03:51:54.595
we would hate to come out with something
03:51:54.595 --> 03:51:56.830
that isn't completely fleshed
out and that isn't going to be
03:51:56.830 --> 03:51:58.680
the right solution for our customers
03:51:59.610 --> 03:52:03.110
and while all maintaining being
good stewards of the dollar,
03:52:03.110 --> 03:52:05.750
when we think about
how we're providing this
03:52:05.750 --> 03:52:08.470
to our customers and the cost.
03:52:08.470 --> 03:52:11.570
So certainly we do not want to,
03:52:11.570 --> 03:52:15.200
we wanna make sure that
we are managing against risk
03:52:15.200 --> 03:52:17.240
and that we are providing the resources
03:52:17.240 --> 03:52:18.980
to the individuals who need it,
03:52:18.980 --> 03:52:20.650
but we also wanna be really mindful
03:52:20.650 --> 03:52:22.960
about how we're developing
what those solutions are
03:52:22.960 --> 03:52:26.180
and so your continued
partnership with all the panelists
03:52:26.180 --> 03:52:27.540
that we do engage with
03:52:27.540 --> 03:52:30.180
in several different fora is appreciated
03:52:30.180 --> 03:52:31.793
and we hope that it continues.
03:52:32.970 --> 03:52:34.680
Vance and David,
03:52:34.680 --> 03:52:37.840
I have a question to, a
follow up question of Vanessa,
03:52:37.840 --> 03:52:38.710
if I may please.
03:52:38.710 --> 03:52:40.883
I know we're very short on time now.
03:52:41.947 --> 03:52:44.417
Thank you President Batjer.
Thank you.
03:52:44.417 --> 03:52:47.240
You've just raised something
very important, Vanessa.
03:52:47.240 --> 03:52:51.740
We hear continually in our
public comment period from people
03:52:51.740 --> 03:52:54.500
that have had difficulty escalating it,
03:52:54.500 --> 03:52:58.690
they don't, if they try and
call, they can't get through,
03:52:58.690 --> 03:53:01.510
they have great needs like now,
03:53:01.510 --> 03:53:04.080
and they have a very
hard time understanding
03:53:04.080 --> 03:53:06.746
how to escalate their question.
03:53:06.746 --> 03:53:09.056
And we have had this from all the IOUs
03:53:09.056 --> 03:53:11.940
or complaints, concerns
about all the IOUs.
03:53:11.940 --> 03:53:16.310
So I would, no question there
but I would really underscore
03:53:16.310 --> 03:53:21.310
to all of you that your
escalation from your complaint
03:53:21.890 --> 03:53:25.383
or from a customer calling
that needs assistance,
03:53:26.700 --> 03:53:28.680
really, I would streamline that,
03:53:28.680 --> 03:53:30.920
I would get that down to a science,
03:53:30.920 --> 03:53:34.190
I would let your CBO partners
know what you're doing,
03:53:34.190 --> 03:53:37.053
because this is a very strong complaint
03:53:37.053 --> 03:53:40.050
and people have gotten
days with no answers,
03:53:40.050 --> 03:53:42.560
days without electricity and no answers.
03:53:42.560 --> 03:53:46.650
So I would say if you don't
have an escalation plan,
03:53:46.650 --> 03:53:51.390
please put one in gear and if
you have one, make it good.
03:53:51.390 --> 03:53:53.483
So, thank you.
03:53:57.010 --> 03:54:00.860
All right, I just
wanna say in closing,
03:54:00.860 --> 03:54:02.760
I know we're already two minutes over.
03:54:04.020 --> 03:54:05.990
Talk, appreciate it hearing, you know,
03:54:05.990 --> 03:54:08.363
that was like a progress
gets reported on.
03:54:09.400 --> 03:54:11.850
I tried to say it reminded
me a little bit about,
03:54:13.540 --> 03:54:15.040
yeah, many months ago, my daughters
03:54:15.040 --> 03:54:17.053
and I went to an art gallery,
03:54:18.570 --> 03:54:20.420
we're looking at a piece of art,
03:54:20.420 --> 03:54:22.990
which if you look at it
from one side is blue,
03:54:22.990 --> 03:54:25.340
if you look it from the
opposite side it's red.
03:54:26.830 --> 03:54:30.300
I started on the middle and
watched them debate each other
03:54:31.620 --> 03:54:35.340
over what color that
that stop painting was
03:54:35.340 --> 03:54:38.981
and I think we're looking at this issue
03:54:38.981 --> 03:54:42.083
and we are all committed to the issue,
03:54:43.950 --> 03:54:47.070
but what I fear is a lot of concern
03:54:47.070 --> 03:54:52.070
that outcomes aren't there
yet, that there are still gaps,
03:54:54.580 --> 03:54:56.530
but there still needs to be in on that.
03:54:58.160 --> 03:55:00.563
And so I think a follow on meeting,
03:55:02.424 --> 03:55:05.270
but it was already agreed
to is a wonderful way
03:55:05.270 --> 03:55:07.520
to put some solutions on that, right?
03:55:07.520 --> 03:55:11.430
Because if you think it's
blue and that's great progress
03:55:12.450 --> 03:55:17.383
and somebody else sees
red and that's a major gap,
03:55:19.090 --> 03:55:21.500
I think getting together and
really having a discussion
03:55:21.500 --> 03:55:24.810
is the only way that we'll land on
03:55:24.810 --> 03:55:27.460
how do we really get
to where we've been.
03:55:28.361 --> 03:55:31.780
So I think they're on for
the commitment to get there.
03:55:31.780 --> 03:55:34.570
I'd probably report out
what's your next steps
03:55:36.270 --> 03:55:40.080
that will absolutely be
reported back to probably CPUC,
03:55:40.080 --> 03:55:43.813
President Batjer and
we'll thank everyone
03:55:43.813 --> 03:55:44.823
from that close out.
03:55:47.090 --> 03:55:49.070
All right, this is David again,
03:55:49.070 --> 03:55:53.390
I want to thank definitely
all of our AFN panelists,
03:55:53.390 --> 03:55:58.390
all of the representatives from the IOU,
03:55:58.990 --> 03:56:02.120
think we have a good question
and answer session today
03:56:02.120 --> 03:56:07.120
and we'll be following up with the IOUs
03:56:08.090 --> 03:56:13.090
and the panelists to help
facilitate that follow-up meeting.
03:56:16.030 --> 03:56:20.500
So with that, if there's
no last burning questions
03:56:20.500 --> 03:56:22.403
from any of our Commissioners,
03:56:23.340 --> 03:56:26.680
I'll hand it over to our next channel,
03:56:26.680 --> 03:56:31.680
which is on local tribal governments.
03:56:36.080 --> 03:56:37.893
Thank you very much, David.
03:56:38.860 --> 03:56:43.220
And I wanna add my
voice to yours as well,
03:56:43.220 --> 03:56:46.900
thanking all of the AFN
and panelists for your rich
03:56:46.900 --> 03:56:48.870
and good and helpful questions,
03:56:48.870 --> 03:56:52.050
and I know you had many
you were not able to get to
03:56:52.050 --> 03:56:55.330
and I hope that those will be
able to be asked and answered
03:56:55.330 --> 03:56:57.350
in your future follow-up meetings.
03:56:57.350 --> 03:57:02.090
I also wanna thank
the utilities who joined
03:57:02.090 --> 03:57:04.350
and listened in, very important.
03:57:04.350 --> 03:57:06.460
I made a couple calls here companies
03:57:06.460 --> 03:57:08.600
to make sure that happened
today and I appreciate
03:57:08.600 --> 03:57:10.730
that you answered that call.
03:57:10.730 --> 03:57:13.405
So thank you very much, everyone.
03:57:13.405 --> 03:57:14.710
Thank my fellow Commissioners as well,
03:57:14.710 --> 03:57:17.990
and as you said, David,
we are going to now move on
03:57:17.990 --> 03:57:21.900
to our second panel of the
day which is local government
03:57:21.900 --> 03:57:24.313
and tribes round table.
03:57:46.050 --> 03:57:49.220
We'll give everyone a
few minutes to organize,
03:57:49.220 --> 03:57:53.520
and of course, Stephanie Green
03:57:53.520 --> 03:57:55.970
from the California
Public Utilities Commission
03:57:56.920 --> 03:58:01.920
will be our moderator and I
don't see you on yet, Stephanie
03:58:04.120 --> 03:58:07.176
but I'm sure you're joining in.
03:58:07.176 --> 03:58:10.370
There you are, there you are, good.
03:58:10.370 --> 03:58:12.713
I'm gonna turn it over
to you now, Stephanie.
03:58:14.890 --> 03:58:16.150
Oh, we can't hear you,
03:58:16.150 --> 03:58:18.103
there's no audio, can't hear.
03:58:19.970 --> 03:58:24.703
Nope, still no audio, still can't, nope.
03:58:27.170 --> 03:58:29.693
You may have muted your computer.
03:58:32.240 --> 03:58:33.580
Let me check.
03:58:33.580 --> 03:58:35.540
Okay, now I can
hear your voice.
03:58:35.540 --> 03:58:36.910
I can hear you.
03:58:36.910 --> 03:58:39.811
Okay, can you hear me now?
Yes.
03:58:39.811 --> 03:58:41.950
Okay, perfect.
03:58:41.950 --> 03:58:43.003
I'm just gonna wait.
03:58:44.890 --> 03:58:47.210
I don't know, Robert can you let me see
03:58:47.210 --> 03:58:48.733
if the other panelist are on?
03:58:49.910 --> 03:58:51.460
They should start to be showing
03:58:58.180 --> 03:58:59.850
Hi Stephanie, it's
Robert Stanford,
03:58:59.850 --> 03:59:01.450
just to confirm they are active.
03:59:02.920 --> 03:59:05.183
It was Lynda,
Doug, Steven, Keith.
03:59:08.277 --> 03:59:10.503
So they're all here.
03:59:12.210 --> 03:59:15.353
There we go, okay.
03:59:16.710 --> 03:59:18.063
Well hello everyone,
03:59:19.090 --> 03:59:20.580
we're already running
a few minutes late,
03:59:20.580 --> 03:59:21.550
so let's get started.
03:59:21.550 --> 03:59:24.690
I am Stephanie Green, I oversee
the Commission's business
03:59:24.690 --> 03:59:27.180
and community outreach office.
03:59:27.180 --> 03:59:29.963
And I would like to
welcome our panelists
03:59:29.963 --> 03:59:31.030
for the next session,
03:59:31.030 --> 03:59:33.430
which will include our
steamed representatives
03:59:34.453 --> 03:59:36.460
from local government and the community.
03:59:36.460 --> 03:59:41.163
We have Lynda Hopkins from
Sonoma County Supervisor.
03:59:42.020 --> 03:59:45.893
We should have Doug Teeter
who is Dubuque County supervisor.
03:59:46.780 --> 03:59:49.800
Steve Crowder, who's
the mayor of Paradise.
03:59:49.800 --> 03:59:53.940
Keith Mashburn who's
the mayor of Simi Valley,
03:59:53.940 --> 03:59:56.910
Masis Hagobian,
Governmental Relations Analyst
03:59:56.910 --> 03:59:58.820
for Santa Clarita,
03:59:58.820 --> 04:00:01.313
Joshua Saxon, he is
the executive director
04:00:01.313 --> 04:00:05.170
for the Karuk Tribe and Bill
York, who is the president
04:00:05.170 --> 04:00:08.760
and CEO of 2-1-1 San Diego.
04:00:08.760 --> 04:00:10.453
Those are our panelists.
04:00:11.458 --> 04:00:14.670
We will also be joined by
our utility representatives,
04:00:14.670 --> 04:00:17.707
that is Aaron Johnson,
the DP of Wildfire Safety
04:00:17.707 --> 04:00:19.740
and Public Engagement for PG&E,
04:00:20.910 --> 04:00:24.337
Michael Huynh, Senior
Advisor and Local Public Affairs
04:00:24.337 --> 04:00:25.993
for Southern California Edison,
04:00:26.830 --> 04:00:28.600
Amy Olson, who is Senior Advisor
04:00:28.600 --> 04:00:30.940
of Local Government and
Native American Tribes
04:00:30.940 --> 04:00:33.070
for Southern California Edison,
04:00:33.070 --> 04:00:36.020
and Jennifer Summers who is
the Director of Tribal Relations
04:00:36.020 --> 04:00:39.750
and Land Services for
San Diego Gas and Electric,
04:00:39.750 --> 04:00:42.310
and then we have Todd Andrews,
04:00:42.310 --> 04:00:45.600
who's Regional Business
Manager for PacifiCorp
04:00:45.600 --> 04:00:46.950
and Justin Bukartek
04:00:48.058 --> 04:00:51.690
who is Director of Emergency
Management for PacifiCorp.
04:00:52.832 --> 04:00:55.840
And those are our panelists
today and then the utility reps.
04:00:56.720 --> 04:00:59.660
So I would like to start
off our session today
04:00:59.660 --> 04:01:01.850
by asking each of our panelists
04:01:02.842 --> 04:01:04.057
if they could tell us
about their community
04:01:04.057 --> 04:01:06.830
and how Public Safety Power Shutoffs
04:01:06.830 --> 04:01:09.000
have impacted their community
04:01:09.000 --> 04:01:13.020
and what their top state
public safety concerns are.
04:01:13.020 --> 04:01:16.440
I'd like to start with
Supervisor Hopkins.
04:01:16.440 --> 04:01:19.320
Supervisor Hopkins, can you
give us just a couple of minutes
04:01:19.320 --> 04:01:22.263
to talk about PSPS in your community?
04:01:23.120 --> 04:01:26.000
Yes, thank you so much,
Stephanie, can you hear me?
04:01:26.000 --> 04:01:28.370
I can hear you, thank you.
04:01:28.370 --> 04:01:29.721
Perfect.
04:01:29.721 --> 04:01:31.230
Well, I'd like to
start off first by saying
04:01:31.230 --> 04:01:33.830
that we have come a long
way since we first started off
04:01:33.830 --> 04:01:36.290
on this Public Safety
Power Shutoff journey
04:01:36.290 --> 04:01:38.700
and I do wanna thank
PG&E for the improvements
04:01:38.700 --> 04:01:40.370
that we have made thus far.
04:01:40.370 --> 04:01:42.380
I recall a day in the
not so distant past
04:01:42.380 --> 04:01:44.630
when Sonoma County
was actually the first County
04:01:44.630 --> 04:01:46.920
in the state of California
to send a representative
04:01:46.920 --> 04:01:49.920
down to PG&E's
emergency operations center,
04:01:49.920 --> 04:01:52.610
where she was promptly placed
in an empty conference room
04:01:52.610 --> 04:01:54.630
and was literally walled
off from information
04:01:54.630 --> 04:01:56.170
as well as decisions.
04:01:56.170 --> 04:01:58.880
I think this was the same
incident when the PG&E website
04:01:58.880 --> 04:02:01.530
also crashed repeatedly
in the run-up to a PSPS,
04:02:01.530 --> 04:02:04.241
which meant that we
had a lot of confused
04:02:04.241 --> 04:02:05.890
and concerned constituents
in Sonoma County.
04:02:05.890 --> 04:02:09.013
We have come a long way
and I really do wanna say
04:02:09.013 --> 04:02:11.560
that we receive more information earlier
04:02:11.560 --> 04:02:13.960
and more frequently from PG&E staff now
04:02:13.960 --> 04:02:15.780
as we go into PSPS events,
04:02:15.780 --> 04:02:17.570
which I really, really appreciate.
04:02:17.570 --> 04:02:20.380
Notably PG&E has
also improved its website
04:02:20.380 --> 04:02:22.187
with real-time mapping
from members of the public
04:02:22.187 --> 04:02:24.450
and we haven't had
those technology issues
04:02:24.450 --> 04:02:27.090
or crashes in our recent events.
04:02:27.090 --> 04:02:29.010
At the same time, there
are still some improvements
04:02:29.010 --> 04:02:31.250
that need to be made,
I want to acknowledge
04:02:31.250 --> 04:02:33.790
that community resource
center implementation
04:02:33.790 --> 04:02:35.490
has seemed to be sporadic
04:02:35.490 --> 04:02:37.230
and we've actually had
to advocate politically
04:02:37.230 --> 04:02:39.880
in order to receive
community resource centers,
04:02:39.880 --> 04:02:41.930
particularly in
vulnerable, disadvantaged,
04:02:41.930 --> 04:02:46.390
low and at risk communities,
low income communities as well.
04:02:46.390 --> 04:02:47.980
In some cases, we
actually had to stand up
04:02:47.980 --> 04:02:49.810
our own community resource centers
04:02:49.810 --> 04:02:53.070
and we're left to pick up the
tab on the taxpayer's dime.
04:02:53.070 --> 04:02:54.330
Similarly, we do continue
04:02:54.330 --> 04:02:57.310
to extend a substantial
amount of taxpayer resources,
04:02:57.310 --> 04:03:00.040
reaching out to our
vulnerable community residents
04:03:00.040 --> 04:03:01.920
a.k.a those Medical Baseline customers
04:03:01.920 --> 04:03:04.470
in order to ensure that they
don't fall through the cracks.
04:03:04.470 --> 04:03:05.420
This work takes place
04:03:05.420 --> 04:03:08.210
through our health and
human services department.
04:03:08.210 --> 04:03:10.390
And I know that you've already
spent some time on access
04:03:10.390 --> 04:03:12.550
and functional needs this morning,
04:03:12.550 --> 04:03:14.610
so I won't go into
that in too great detail,
04:03:14.610 --> 04:03:17.290
but if there's one thing that I
can impress upon all of you
04:03:17.290 --> 04:03:19.960
that I think we really need
to devote more attention to,
04:03:19.960 --> 04:03:22.780
it's emergency
communications infrastructure.
04:03:22.780 --> 04:03:25.060
During the Kincade Fire
which was anticipated
04:03:25.060 --> 04:03:27.260
to burn through tens
of thousands of homes
04:03:27.260 --> 04:03:30.180
and not stop burning until
it hits the Pacific ocean,
04:03:30.180 --> 04:03:33.600
CAL FIRE and the sheriff
actually proactively evacuated
04:03:33.600 --> 04:03:35.370
tens of thousands of residents early
04:03:35.370 --> 04:03:38.033
because they knew that
we would be losing power
04:03:38.033 --> 04:03:39.300
and because they knew that without power
04:03:39.300 --> 04:03:40.700
in terrain already lacking
04:03:40.700 --> 04:03:42.830
in redundant
communications infrastructure,
04:03:42.830 --> 04:03:46.230
they would have no way of
communicating with constituents.
04:03:46.230 --> 04:03:48.520
I also wanna, you know, I
think it's important to remember
04:03:48.520 --> 04:03:50.720
that of course fires
start for other reasons
04:03:50.720 --> 04:03:52.590
than PG&E, we obviously suffered
04:03:52.590 --> 04:03:55.820
through the lightning complex last year,
04:03:55.820 --> 04:03:58.820
but PSPS is an emergency on its own
04:03:58.820 --> 04:04:01.340
and it requires a local
government response,
04:04:01.340 --> 04:04:02.460
but what's worse about it
04:04:02.460 --> 04:04:05.050
is that it actually is an
emergency that limits our ability
04:04:05.050 --> 04:04:07.980
to respond to other
emergencies in real time.
04:04:07.980 --> 04:04:09.410
So during the Kincaid for instance,
04:04:09.410 --> 04:04:11.930
I had fire departments
that only had access
04:04:11.930 --> 04:04:16.010
to radio communications and
we can't rely on analog anymore,
04:04:16.010 --> 04:04:19.210
it's a digital world and
firefighting increasingly relies
04:04:19.210 --> 04:04:23.320
on higher tech infrastructure
and database communication,
04:04:23.320 --> 04:04:25.780
so they can actually
coordinate in real time,
04:04:25.780 --> 04:04:28.910
you know, where the fire
is, where even the folks are,
04:04:28.910 --> 04:04:30.010
they actually now have an ability
04:04:30.010 --> 04:04:32.450
to track firefighters and engines
04:04:32.450 --> 04:04:34.120
as they move around the fire front
04:04:34.120 --> 04:04:37.390
and so that access to
data is really, really critical,
04:04:37.390 --> 04:04:40.370
especially for our fire stations.
04:04:40.370 --> 04:04:43.480
I also had communities where
unfortunately, people stayed,
04:04:43.480 --> 04:04:45.890
they got lucky this time
and they didn't burn,
04:04:45.890 --> 04:04:48.350
but had the fire gone through,
04:04:48.350 --> 04:04:49.650
we really would have been limited
04:04:49.650 --> 04:04:52.760
in our communications
infrastructure to respond.
04:04:52.760 --> 04:04:54.830
I also wanna add one other technicality,
04:04:54.830 --> 04:04:55.810
which is that we have a lot
04:04:55.810 --> 04:04:58.000
of small municipal water districts.
04:04:58.000 --> 04:05:00.670
Those water districts rely
on power to pump water,
04:05:00.670 --> 04:05:03.240
which then ultimately supplies
the community with water
04:05:03.240 --> 04:05:06.650
during a fire events and not all
of them have backup systems
04:05:06.650 --> 04:05:08.330
or not all of them have backup systems
04:05:08.330 --> 04:05:10.660
that are of the level
that would be required
04:05:10.660 --> 04:05:13.630
in a wild fire response.
04:05:13.630 --> 04:05:15.140
So just one last question,
04:05:15.140 --> 04:05:17.960
which is really not just for
the IOUs or for the CPUC,
04:05:17.960 --> 04:05:19.920
but for the entire state of California,
04:05:19.920 --> 04:05:21.700
how can we facilitate nonpolluting,
04:05:21.700 --> 04:05:24.190
non-greenhouse gas emitting,
04:05:24.190 --> 04:05:27.530
backup sources of power
for critical infrastructure.
04:05:27.530 --> 04:05:30.450
And also how can we ensure
that perpetual disaster response
04:05:30.450 --> 04:05:32.110
doesn't bankrupt local government,
04:05:32.110 --> 04:05:35.070
because right now we still
are left picking up the tab
04:05:35.070 --> 04:05:37.437
for a lot of the response
for these PSPSs
04:05:37.437 --> 04:05:39.860
and it's not just that,
then it's also a pandemic,
04:05:39.860 --> 04:05:42.140
it's also fire, it's also flood season.
04:05:42.140 --> 04:05:44.350
And so it really starts
to impact our ability
04:05:44.350 --> 04:05:46.910
to deliver critical services
to our constituents.
04:05:46.910 --> 04:05:48.300
Thank you so much for the opportunity
04:05:48.300 --> 04:05:50.160
to spend a few minutes
speaking with you today
04:05:50.160 --> 04:05:51.010
and thank you so much
04:05:51.010 --> 04:05:53.160
for your time and
attention on this matter.
04:05:54.560 --> 04:05:56.820
Thank you Supervisor Hopkins.
04:05:56.820 --> 04:06:00.940
Supervisors Peter,
would you like to go next?
04:06:00.940 --> 04:06:02.740
Oh yeah, thank you very much
04:06:02.740 --> 04:06:05.563
and it's first I should
ask, can you hear me?
04:06:06.450 --> 04:06:08.780
Yes we can, thank you.
Okay.
04:06:08.780 --> 04:06:11.263
You never know, you start yapping
04:06:11.263 --> 04:06:14.400
and then you never get
connected and my video didn't work
04:06:14.400 --> 04:06:17.150
so I apologize but I
have a face for radio.
04:06:17.150 --> 04:06:20.910
It's always great to follow
Supervisor Lynda Hopkins
04:06:20.910 --> 04:06:23.690
because I can just replace
the names of the locations
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and say, ditto as folks may know,
04:06:27.240 --> 04:06:30.360
Butte County is a little
above Sacramento,
04:06:30.360 --> 04:06:34.510
we're about 219,000 in population,
04:06:34.510 --> 04:06:39.510
16% based on the current
census data is in poverty,
04:06:39.950 --> 04:06:41.270
about a third of the county
04:06:41.270 --> 04:06:43.677
is in very high fire hazard areas
04:06:43.677 --> 04:06:46.250
and my guesstimate would
be about half the county
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has been affected by PSPS.
04:06:49.160 --> 04:06:53.670
Major events have come to
Butte County, the Oroville Dam,
04:06:53.670 --> 04:06:56.990
although that was kind
of in the winter months,
04:06:56.990 --> 04:07:01.470
that resulted in 188,000
that were reported evacuated
04:07:01.470 --> 04:07:04.280
and, you know, it's uncertain
04:07:04.280 --> 04:07:09.280
when such large infrastructure
failures could occur,
04:07:09.930 --> 04:07:13.570
but imagine trying to
evacuate that amount of people
04:07:13.570 --> 04:07:18.570
in a PSPS event, campfire
for those that know,
04:07:19.320 --> 04:07:22.503
142,000 acres, 19,000 structures,
04:07:23.490 --> 04:07:25.310
I know Mayor Crowder's on the phone,
04:07:25.310 --> 04:07:27.810
he lost his house, I
lost my house in that
04:07:27.810 --> 04:07:30.440
as well as many of our residents,
04:07:30.440 --> 04:07:32.990
and then last year we
had the North complex fire
04:07:32.990 --> 04:07:37.990
of about 319,000 acres
and a lot of 2,400 structures.
04:07:38.780 --> 04:07:42.573
I would say probably, some
of the struggles with PSPS,
04:07:43.760 --> 04:07:45.150
some reason our jail,
04:07:45.150 --> 04:07:49.550
the county jail in Oroville
got cut off for 24 hours,
04:07:49.550 --> 04:07:51.810
lift stations for the sewage
04:07:51.810 --> 04:07:55.530
and potable water ceased in that,
04:07:55.530 --> 04:08:00.530
so that was quite a surprise,
it's safe to say that they,
04:08:02.960 --> 04:08:06.560
PG&E has restructured
how power is delivered to that,
04:08:06.560 --> 04:08:09.480
so we haven't had an
event like that again,
04:08:09.480 --> 04:08:10.813
but that was a shock,
04:08:12.239 --> 04:08:15.010
a lot of our citizens
live in remote areas
04:08:15.010 --> 04:08:20.010
and they rely on Wi-Fi in
place of spotty cell phone,
04:08:20.180 --> 04:08:23.350
and so when you lose
power, they lose the internet
04:08:23.350 --> 04:08:27.720
and the result is authorities
unable to contact citizens
04:08:27.720 --> 04:08:29.130
in those areas.
04:08:29.130 --> 04:08:32.470
A PSPS was scheduled
prior to the campfire,
04:08:32.470 --> 04:08:35.740
but the line that caused
the fire I've been informed,
04:08:35.740 --> 04:08:39.840
wasn't going to be
included in that shutoff.
04:08:39.840 --> 04:08:43.300
Some of the concerns
is, it's in the news,
04:08:43.300 --> 04:08:47.582
U.S. District Judge, William
ALSUP may force more shutoffs.
04:08:47.582 --> 04:08:49.570
And one article I read said Butte County
04:08:49.570 --> 04:08:52.073
could expect a doubling of PSPS,
04:08:53.220 --> 04:08:58.220
so I think it's hard to
quantify the effect PSPS has
04:09:00.780 --> 04:09:03.530
on my district, which
includes Paradise Magalia
04:09:03.530 --> 04:09:08.430
that was pretty much
destroyed by the campfire,
04:09:08.430 --> 04:09:10.850
but I would guess it
causes a lot of people
04:09:10.850 --> 04:09:13.570
to have concerns about rebuilding,
04:09:13.570 --> 04:09:17.880
especially those near
or at the poverty line,
04:09:17.880 --> 04:09:21.680
they can't afford generators
and also business development,
04:09:21.680 --> 04:09:24.310
it's challenging for businesses
04:09:24.310 --> 04:09:29.300
to have to count on
generators to do their business
04:09:29.300 --> 04:09:34.260
and I really feel that folks
are choosing to go elsewhere
04:09:34.260 --> 04:09:36.500
instead of rebuilding
in our communities.
04:09:36.500 --> 04:09:41.500
I'd say my top safety priority
is emergency notification
04:09:43.110 --> 04:09:47.240
and then hazard fuel
reduction near power lines,
04:09:47.240 --> 04:09:49.583
and the appreciate
being on the panel today.
04:09:51.550 --> 04:09:53.510
Thank you so much,
04:09:53.510 --> 04:09:57.273
and let's move to kind of Mayor Crowder.
04:10:02.720 --> 04:10:05.723
Is Mayor Steve Crowder on the line?
04:10:09.520 --> 04:10:13.253
Okay, well, we'll come back.
04:10:15.920 --> 04:10:17.123
Is that Mayor Crowder.
04:10:20.600 --> 04:10:25.223
I'm going to move on and
lets go to Mayor Mashburn.
04:10:28.140 --> 04:10:29.013
Good afternoon.
04:10:30.610 --> 04:10:33.930
First, I'd like to give a
little bit of an introduction
04:10:33.930 --> 04:10:37.060
and thank you for inviting
me to be on this panel.
04:10:37.060 --> 04:10:40.970
I'm the elected mayor of
a city of 126,000 people
04:10:40.970 --> 04:10:45.850
at Simi Valley just North
of Los Angeles County
04:10:45.850 --> 04:10:49.690
and I am a former Ventura
County Fire Battalion Chief
04:10:49.690 --> 04:10:53.600
and the last 10 years served
as the Chief Fire Investigator
04:10:53.600 --> 04:10:55.293
for the County of Ventura.
04:10:57.370 --> 04:11:02.370
In 2020, we had six PSPS events
04:11:02.950 --> 04:11:06.170
and they lasted 24 to 72 hours.
04:11:06.170 --> 04:11:08.950
And in case you're
not familiar with much,
04:11:08.950 --> 04:11:11.360
unlike those that have already spoken,
04:11:11.360 --> 04:11:16.270
our city is very urbanized,
we are not in wild land area.
04:11:16.270 --> 04:11:21.240
We have some outline
areas that are wildfire areas.
04:11:21.240 --> 04:11:24.990
However, the city proper
has very, very little exposure
04:11:24.990 --> 04:11:27.630
to actual wild land fires.
04:11:27.630 --> 04:11:32.630
So in our case, public
safety public or power shutoffs
04:11:32.750 --> 04:11:35.233
are anything but public safety,
04:11:35.233 --> 04:11:37.860
it's just quite the opposite.
04:11:37.860 --> 04:11:40.670
The most dangerous
aspect of the PSPS events
04:11:40.670 --> 04:11:45.670
for our city has been it
shuts down the traffic signals
04:11:46.950 --> 04:11:49.970
throughout the city, and
these are in areas once again,
04:11:49.970 --> 04:11:53.130
that are not anywhere
near any wild land areas
04:11:53.130 --> 04:11:54.930
and yet we're told over and over again
04:11:54.930 --> 04:11:58.373
that this is gonna
prevent wild land fires.
04:11:59.510 --> 04:12:04.490
And the potential loss for
life due to traffic collisions
04:12:04.490 --> 04:12:07.280
is absolutely astonishing in our city
04:12:07.280 --> 04:12:10.970
and we have claims and
we expecting more claims
04:12:10.970 --> 04:12:13.640
for the many traffic
accidents that were caused
04:12:13.640 --> 04:12:18.130
by the lack of powered traffic signals.
04:12:18.130 --> 04:12:20.250
It appears to us that Edison transferred
04:12:20.250 --> 04:12:24.820
their wildfire liability in a
different form to the cities,
04:12:24.820 --> 04:12:27.240
businesses and the residents they serve
04:12:27.240 --> 04:12:31.033
because there certainly
is no fire threat here.
04:12:32.720 --> 04:12:35.610
One of the difficulties
that we have as a city
04:12:35.610 --> 04:12:40.610
is we have to run out and
do some kind of notification
04:12:41.380 --> 04:12:42.420
in these intersections
04:12:42.420 --> 04:12:44.430
that there actually is
an intersection here
04:12:44.430 --> 04:12:46.550
and it's normally controlled
04:12:46.550 --> 04:12:49.730
and we place temporary stop signs
04:12:49.730 --> 04:12:51.780
and A-frame to what have you.
04:12:51.780 --> 04:12:54.930
But the law indicates
that once we put up
04:12:54.930 --> 04:12:58.730
any type of notification,
we take on the liability,
04:12:58.730 --> 04:13:03.420
and that liability, I believe,
should be the liability
04:13:03.420 --> 04:13:06.880
of the power company
04:13:06.880 --> 04:13:10.520
because they're the ones
that turned off the power
04:13:10.520 --> 04:13:14.590
and eliminated the use
of those intersections.
04:13:14.590 --> 04:13:18.080
And then again, the cost
that comes to the city,
04:13:18.080 --> 04:13:21.880
we've as a council have
authorized the purchase
04:13:21.880 --> 04:13:25.960
and the installation of
50 and that's not even,
04:13:25.960 --> 04:13:28.640
I think we have over 70 intersections,
04:13:28.640 --> 04:13:33.100
so 50 of them and the cost
is gonna be over $600,000
04:13:33.100 --> 04:13:35.940
to put a temporary battery backups.
04:13:35.940 --> 04:13:39.890
And again, in these
times of COVID pandemics
04:13:39.890 --> 04:13:44.890
and economic difficulties,
it's a hard pill to swallow,
04:13:46.060 --> 04:13:47.730
they have to come up
with that kind of money,
04:13:47.730 --> 04:13:48.870
but then on the other hand,
04:13:48.870 --> 04:13:50.713
we are here to protect the people.
04:13:53.610 --> 04:13:56.300
One of the, or two of the circuits
04:13:56.300 --> 04:14:00.050
actually serve the city
hall that I'm in right now,
04:14:00.050 --> 04:14:05.050
and these are shut down,
City Hall and our senior center
04:14:06.470 --> 04:14:08.620
is nowhere near a wild land area,
04:14:08.620 --> 04:14:11.960
but we routinely lose power
04:14:11.960 --> 04:14:16.960
and areas that we've set up
to help our vulnerable people,
04:14:18.400 --> 04:14:22.460
cooling centers, food,
prep, that type of thing
04:14:22.460 --> 04:14:26.440
is no longer in use
because of the lack of power.
04:14:26.440 --> 04:14:29.410
So at the cost of $850,000
04:14:29.410 --> 04:14:33.000
we're researching the
purchase of generators
04:14:33.000 --> 04:14:34.290
to back up the system
04:14:34.290 --> 04:14:38.100
because we simply cannot
rely on a constant source
04:14:38.100 --> 04:14:40.083
from the power provider,
04:14:41.600 --> 04:14:44.660
again, the senior center
and the public library,
04:14:44.660 --> 04:14:48.680
our cooling centers during
extreme weather events,
04:14:48.680 --> 04:14:53.680
and again, in fact, one of
them was borrowed by Edison
04:14:54.280 --> 04:14:56.840
to use for one of their resource centers
04:14:56.840 --> 04:14:59.250
and then they found,
oh, we can't use it,
04:14:59.250 --> 04:15:04.250
you don't have it power,
so it just spread widespread.
04:15:07.090 --> 04:15:10.410
The city anticipates, our
city Simi Valley anticipate
04:15:10.410 --> 04:15:15.410
spending $1.45 million just to
accommodate SCE's PSPS events
04:15:22.690 --> 04:15:25.363
and that's a very large hit to our city.
04:15:26.440 --> 04:15:28.270
Of course, I can go into great detail
04:15:28.270 --> 04:15:33.270
about what it does for the food
that the company would say,
04:15:34.370 --> 04:15:39.370
okay, we'll give nonperishable
food back to the citizens,
04:15:39.510 --> 04:15:41.110
well the citizens have already lost
04:15:41.110 --> 04:15:43.000
all their perishable foods
04:15:43.000 --> 04:15:45.940
because of a lack of refrigeration
04:15:45.940 --> 04:15:50.060
and it hardly is a
substitute for what they had
04:15:50.060 --> 04:15:55.060
and the company giving nondescript foods
04:15:55.510 --> 04:15:58.320
for those who need special
diets and what have you,
04:15:58.320 --> 04:16:00.883
it's just not a good
replacement program.
04:16:02.950 --> 04:16:06.970
I heard one of the
supervisors talk about the water
04:16:06.970 --> 04:16:09.380
and we have our own water district,
04:16:09.380 --> 04:16:11.530
and again, it's at a very high cost
04:16:11.530 --> 04:16:14.070
that we have to send
people out with generators
04:16:14.070 --> 04:16:17.620
and to continuously provide power
04:16:17.620 --> 04:16:19.880
to get the water service back,
04:16:19.880 --> 04:16:22.733
that is lost because of the PSPS event.
04:16:25.650 --> 04:16:30.650
Our public works cost alone is $175,000,
04:16:30.670 --> 04:16:34.893
and that's in 2021 alone.
04:16:38.810 --> 04:16:42.090
So I think, I don't wanna
echo what the others have said
04:16:42.090 --> 04:16:46.460
about the need of our medical customers,
04:16:46.460 --> 04:16:49.840
people that rely on power to
keep medical devices going
04:16:49.840 --> 04:16:53.870
and the response times
and the number of staff
04:16:55.160 --> 04:16:57.470
that have to deal with these people,
04:16:57.470 --> 04:17:00.720
and I heard others that said
04:17:00.720 --> 04:17:04.790
the communications has been very lacking
04:17:04.790 --> 04:17:08.310
and inaccurate is
the best way to put it.
04:17:08.310 --> 04:17:09.450
People will call and say,
04:17:09.450 --> 04:17:10.860
when are we gonna get our power back on?
04:17:10.860 --> 04:17:13.220
It'll be on tomorrow at two,
04:17:13.220 --> 04:17:15.470
and it turns out it's three days later,
04:17:15.470 --> 04:17:19.540
far beyond or maybe just
the opposite in some cases
04:17:19.540 --> 04:17:22.350
where you're not gonna
have power for 48 hours
04:17:22.350 --> 04:17:25.950
and three, four hours
later, boom, you have power
04:17:25.950 --> 04:17:30.050
after they started making
all of these arrangements
04:17:30.050 --> 04:17:34.163
to go elsewhere and to obtain housing.
04:17:36.800 --> 04:17:38.540
The improvements made,
04:17:38.540 --> 04:17:41.340
there have been some
improvements on our circuits,
04:17:41.340 --> 04:17:44.420
there has been some areas
04:17:44.420 --> 04:17:47.990
where they've reduced the
number of residents impacted
04:17:47.990 --> 04:17:50.360
and we see that as a very good thing,
04:17:50.360 --> 04:17:55.360
and as we reviewed
the different circuits,
04:17:55.386 --> 04:17:59.833
I always come back to
when I was a fire investigator,
04:18:00.710 --> 04:18:03.880
we had a program that we
worked side-by-side with Edison
04:18:03.880 --> 04:18:08.880
in the same vehicles and we
went out and walked the circuits
04:18:09.340 --> 04:18:13.710
and we inspected them,
inspecting them for treeline contacts
04:18:15.804 --> 04:18:19.620
too close to Russian and what have you.
04:18:19.620 --> 04:18:24.620
And when we'd discover
something, it was a phone call away
04:18:25.240 --> 04:18:28.630
that the individuals that
worked for Edison would call
04:18:28.630 --> 04:18:30.540
and before we would leave the scene
04:18:31.472 --> 04:18:33.891
of where this troublesome area was,
04:18:33.891 --> 04:18:35.980
there would be tree-trimming
trucks they're fixing it.
04:18:35.980 --> 04:18:40.540
So it wasn't like we were
needing to write violations,
04:18:40.540 --> 04:18:43.320
we would just write notice of violation
04:18:43.320 --> 04:18:46.650
and we would do that
together hand in hand,
04:18:46.650 --> 04:18:48.240
and it was just a document,
04:18:48.240 --> 04:18:53.240
the areas that we actually
worked on and so having,
04:18:53.440 --> 04:18:58.300
I retired in '05 and I've
lived in Simi Valley all my life,
04:18:58.300 --> 04:19:03.300
I've never seen the need for
PSPS in this extreme manner
04:19:03.640 --> 04:19:07.360
that's being used now
and that I can only attribute
04:19:07.360 --> 04:19:12.360
to the SCE and the fire
department, local fire department,
04:19:14.030 --> 04:19:15.890
Ventura County fire work together,
04:19:15.890 --> 04:19:19.910
put teams together and went
out and surveyed those lines
04:19:19.910 --> 04:19:21.723
and made the corrections needed,
04:19:22.790 --> 04:19:25.520
and so it was a very, very
strong prevention program
04:19:25.520 --> 04:19:28.373
rather than just throw a
switch, shut the power off.
04:19:31.260 --> 04:19:35.690
I do have a couple of
questions, I'll try being very brief.
04:19:35.690 --> 04:19:39.010
We're told that there's gonna
be many more insulated lines,
04:19:39.010 --> 04:19:40.223
which are very good,
04:19:41.120 --> 04:19:44.320
but we wanna know where
those lines are being insulated,
04:19:44.320 --> 04:19:46.950
where the conductors are being switched
04:19:46.950 --> 04:19:51.280
to the insulated conductors
because in our urban city,
04:19:51.280 --> 04:19:56.280
that's of no value, because
of the insulated conductors
04:19:57.300 --> 04:20:01.030
being put in where we
have a real quick reaction
04:20:01.030 --> 04:20:05.750
to any problems is not
helpful to not only the citizens
04:20:05.750 --> 04:20:08.980
but it's also not helping SCE either,
04:20:08.980 --> 04:20:13.980
so we would like to verify
that the insulated lines
04:20:14.340 --> 04:20:18.500
are going in where it
will protect the system
04:20:18.500 --> 04:20:20.320
in the wild land areas,
04:20:20.320 --> 04:20:24.390
which is exactly what they've
been trying to accomplish,
04:20:24.390 --> 04:20:27.820
and so we wanna see
how that's coming along
04:20:27.820 --> 04:20:31.343
and what rate of replacement it will be,
04:20:33.800 --> 04:20:37.063
and I think that
that's it for this time,
04:20:38.600 --> 04:20:41.610
I think I share with the
others the same problems,
04:20:41.610 --> 04:20:43.280
obviously we're quite a bit different
04:20:43.280 --> 04:20:47.260
because we don't live in
the beautiful wild land areas
04:20:47.260 --> 04:20:49.683
of California, like so many do.
04:20:51.950 --> 04:20:55.380
Here in Simi Valley, we just
we've been taken a real beating
04:20:55.380 --> 04:20:59.030
from the PSPS events
and would like to see
04:20:59.030 --> 04:21:02.910
some type of relief, so thank you.
04:21:02.910 --> 04:21:07.910
Thank you Mayor, I think
Mayor Crowder is on the line now,
04:21:08.150 --> 04:21:09.290
so we could go back to him
04:21:09.290 --> 04:21:12.424
and then we'll go to
Mr. Hagopian next but first,
04:21:12.424 --> 04:21:14.883
Mayor Crowder, are you on the line?
04:21:21.690 --> 04:21:25.130
Okay, seems like we may
still be having some technical,
04:21:25.130 --> 04:21:27.963
so let's go to Mr. Hagopian,
Mr. Hagopian?
04:21:29.043 --> 04:21:29.876
Thank you, Stephanie.
04:21:29.876 --> 04:21:31.636
Good afternoon, President
Batjer and Commissioners
04:21:31.636 --> 04:21:33.610
and Masis Hagobian,
Intergovernmental Relations
04:21:33.610 --> 04:21:35.480
with the city of Santa Clarita,
04:21:35.480 --> 04:21:37.920
I'd like to first just thank
the Commission and staff
04:21:37.920 --> 04:21:39.677
for holding this very
important workshop today
04:21:39.677 --> 04:21:41.140
and for the increased attention
04:21:41.140 --> 04:21:43.440
on this matter these past few months,
04:21:43.440 --> 04:21:45.760
Santa Clarita is the
third most populous city
04:21:45.760 --> 04:21:47.810
in Los Angeles County and it's home
04:21:47.810 --> 04:21:51.360
to approximately 225,000 residents.
04:21:51.360 --> 04:21:53.840
We are located in Northern
Los Angeles County
04:21:53.840 --> 04:21:55.720
between the Northern
and Southern sections
04:21:55.720 --> 04:21:58.440
of the Angeles National
Forest, and directly west
04:21:58.440 --> 04:22:01.210
of the San Gabriel
Mountains National Monument.
04:22:01.210 --> 04:22:03.130
In addition to those living in the city,
04:22:03.130 --> 04:22:05.290
there are approximately 70,000 residents
04:22:05.290 --> 04:22:08.950
in adjacent unincorporated
areas of the San Clarita Valley.
04:22:08.950 --> 04:22:11.410
Many of those living and
working in the San Clarita Valley
04:22:11.410 --> 04:22:13.850
have experienced several PSPS events,
04:22:13.850 --> 04:22:16.300
sometimes even during
the evacuation orders
04:22:16.300 --> 04:22:18.810
due to the threat of active wildfires.
04:22:18.810 --> 04:22:21.460
Fire disruptions have
become a more frequent burden
04:22:21.460 --> 04:22:23.570
as the use of PSPS events
04:22:23.570 --> 04:22:26.450
have become year round in Santa Clarita.
04:22:26.450 --> 04:22:29.480
An even greater concern has
been the de-energization events
04:22:29.480 --> 04:22:32.630
during evacuation orders,
which has placed many residents
04:22:32.630 --> 04:22:35.310
in severe danger
as a lack of electricity
04:22:35.310 --> 04:22:39.380
has resulted in significant
barriers to access the internet,
04:22:39.380 --> 04:22:41.870
cellular and landline
service to stay up-to-date
04:22:41.870 --> 04:22:45.400
with evacuation orders
and wildfire conditions.
04:22:45.400 --> 04:22:48.720
In 2019 alone, San Clarita
experienced approximately
04:22:48.720 --> 04:22:51.850
seven days of CSPs events
with the de-energization
04:22:51.850 --> 04:22:54.560
of more than seven circuits in the city.
04:22:54.560 --> 04:22:57.780
On one given day in October of 2019,
04:22:57.780 --> 04:23:00.430
over 10,500 households in the city
04:23:00.430 --> 04:23:02.970
experienced a power
disruption due to a PSPS event
04:23:03.928 --> 04:23:07.173
with an estimated average
duration of just over 24 hours.
04:23:08.020 --> 04:23:10.740
We are still waiting on
aggregate data for last year,
04:23:10.740 --> 04:23:14.540
however, on Christmas Eve
and Christmas day in 2020,
04:23:14.540 --> 04:23:18.370
over 25,000 households and
businesses experienced power loss
04:23:18.370 --> 04:23:22.760
during a PSPS event that
lasted over 24 consecutive hours.
04:23:22.760 --> 04:23:25.670
We have been in constant
discussions with representatives
04:23:25.670 --> 04:23:27.140
of Southern California Edison,
04:23:27.140 --> 04:23:30.040
which we are very
appreciative of on their plans
04:23:30.040 --> 04:23:31.000
to harden their grid
04:23:31.000 --> 04:23:33.890
and reduce the frequency of PSPS events.
04:23:33.890 --> 04:23:36.890
So our interests now is ensure
that Edison follows through
04:23:36.890 --> 04:23:39.940
on their promise to rate
payers in the Santa Crita Valley
04:23:39.940 --> 04:23:43.545
and implement immediate
grid hardening this year.
04:23:43.545 --> 04:23:47.030
And with that being said,
in our most recent meeting
04:23:47.030 --> 04:23:50.070
with representatives of
Southern California Edison,
04:23:50.070 --> 04:23:53.980
they actually presented an
immediate grid hardening plan
04:23:53.980 --> 04:23:57.440
to our mayor and mayor
pro-tem just last week,
04:23:57.440 --> 04:24:00.040
in that presentation, we were encouraged
04:24:00.040 --> 04:24:01.847
to see that they've
identified nine circuits
04:24:01.847 --> 04:24:05.710
that have been hit the
hardest in the last three years,
04:24:05.710 --> 04:24:10.710
essentially defined as experiencing
four or more PSPS events
04:24:11.150 --> 04:24:16.150
during that timeframe with
plans to harden all nine circuits
04:24:16.470 --> 04:24:18.700
by September of this year.
04:24:18.700 --> 04:24:23.700
So our focus now is
really to hold them to that,
04:24:23.810 --> 04:24:26.700
to continue to provide
updates to our residents
04:24:26.700 --> 04:24:28.560
and to our businesses here in the city
04:24:28.560 --> 04:24:30.458
and the surrounding valley,
04:24:30.458 --> 04:24:35.458
to ensure that those hardening
plans are implemented
04:24:36.340 --> 04:24:40.230
in a timely manner before we
experience Santa Ana winds
04:24:40.230 --> 04:24:42.800
come fall of 2021.
04:24:42.800 --> 04:24:45.780
With that again, I just wanna
express our appreciation
04:24:45.780 --> 04:24:47.130
for your attention on this matter
04:24:47.130 --> 04:24:50.670
and we look forward to the
discussion today, thank you.
04:24:53.783 --> 04:24:57.063
Thank you and let's
go to Mr. Saxon next.
04:25:00.120 --> 04:25:02.953
Hi Green, can you all hear me?
04:25:04.130 --> 04:25:06.563
Yes we can, thank you.
04:25:06.563 --> 04:25:07.820
Fantastic, hello,
04:25:07.820 --> 04:25:09.540
California Public
Utilities Commissioners,
04:25:09.540 --> 04:25:12.210
IOU representatives, fellow panelists
04:25:12.210 --> 04:25:14.950
and members of the public,
my name is Joshua Saxon,
04:25:14.950 --> 04:25:17.770
Machado member, previous
Tribal Council member
04:25:17.770 --> 04:25:20.540
and currently serving my tribal
government and community
04:25:20.540 --> 04:25:23.560
as the executive director
of the Karuk Tribe.
04:25:23.560 --> 04:25:25.760
The Karuk Tribe provides
tribal government oversight
04:25:25.760 --> 04:25:27.720
and services in three world communities
04:25:27.720 --> 04:25:29.600
within our ancestral lands,
04:25:29.600 --> 04:25:33.180
Orleans, which is in far
Northeastern Humboldt County,
04:25:33.180 --> 04:25:36.320
Happy camp, which is in
Western Siskiyou County
04:25:36.320 --> 04:25:38.523
and my Rica and central Siskiyou County.
04:25:39.688 --> 04:25:42.670
Siskiyou County
communities IOU is PacifiCorp.
04:25:42.670 --> 04:25:44.320
Our Humboldt County communities IOU
04:25:44.320 --> 04:25:45.813
is Pacific Gas and Electric.
04:25:47.020 --> 04:25:48.720
How these IOUs have responded
04:25:48.720 --> 04:25:50.010
to the wind related fire events
04:25:50.010 --> 04:25:53.140
of the past several
years are vastly different.
04:25:53.140 --> 04:25:55.150
PG&E took on the challenge of PSPS
04:25:55.150 --> 04:25:58.250
by treating the Karuk
Tribe and all California tribes
04:25:58.250 --> 04:26:00.870
with the same level
of respect and inclusion
04:26:00.870 --> 04:26:02.970
as cities, counties and state agencies.
04:26:02.970 --> 04:26:06.260
We were invited, briefed and debriefed
04:26:06.260 --> 04:26:07.610
with the same information
04:26:07.610 --> 04:26:10.440
that other agencies
were receiving in real time.
04:26:10.440 --> 04:26:13.280
I can't thank enough the ongoing
commitment and availability
04:26:13.280 --> 04:26:17.323
of the PG&E team,
especially Reno Franklin,
04:26:19.206 --> 04:26:22.340
who has gone above and
beyond to ensure the Karuk tribe
04:26:22.340 --> 04:26:24.870
sits at the table while
decisions are being made
04:26:24.870 --> 04:26:27.263
that affect our communities
and the government operations
04:26:27.263 --> 04:26:30.030
that those communities rely upon.
04:26:30.030 --> 04:26:33.040
Unfortunately, this has not
been the case with PacifiCorp.
04:26:34.070 --> 04:26:35.550
On September 8, 2020,
04:26:35.550 --> 04:26:37.670
the Slater Fire completely devastated
04:26:37.670 --> 04:26:39.610
the community of Happy Camp,
04:26:39.610 --> 04:26:41.960
where the Karuk Tribes
headquarters is located.
04:26:42.830 --> 04:26:45.639
The fire destroyed over 200 homes,
04:26:45.639 --> 04:26:49.070
including approximately
44 tribally affiliated homes.
04:26:49.070 --> 04:26:51.130
The fire burns so fast and intensely
04:26:51.130 --> 04:26:52.210
the majority of families
04:26:52.210 --> 04:26:54.310
were only able to
escape with their lives.
04:26:55.170 --> 04:26:57.180
Fortunately, the Karuk Tribe was able
04:26:57.180 --> 04:26:59.120
to utilize COVID-19 care funding
04:26:59.120 --> 04:27:02.590
to provide emergency
shelter to over 100 families
04:27:02.590 --> 04:27:04.733
during this ongoing disaster recovery.
04:27:06.020 --> 04:27:09.230
Where was PacifiCorp before
the fire devastated Happy Camp,
04:27:09.230 --> 04:27:11.630
and more importantly,
where were they right after
04:27:11.630 --> 04:27:12.770
the community of Happy Camp
04:27:12.770 --> 04:27:14.640
was left burnt and helpless.
04:27:14.640 --> 04:27:17.240
In the wake of this disaster,
it has become very evident,
04:27:17.240 --> 04:27:19.850
PacifiCorp must fundamentally change
04:27:19.850 --> 04:27:22.963
the way they do business
in the big climate region.
04:27:23.820 --> 04:27:26.920
PG&E has prioritized tribal governments
04:27:26.920 --> 04:27:31.410
as partners in the PSPS system,
beginning with notifications
04:27:31.410 --> 04:27:33.763
and ending with after action reviews.
04:27:34.830 --> 04:27:37.500
We expect and demand
the same kind of partnership
04:27:37.500 --> 04:27:39.363
with PacifiCorp moving forward.
04:27:40.330 --> 04:27:42.696
I would like to see a firm commitment
04:27:42.696 --> 04:27:45.077
on the part of PacifiCorp today
04:27:45.077 --> 04:27:46.810
to establish formal
lines of communications
04:27:46.810 --> 04:27:48.293
in line with those we have with PG&E,
04:27:48.293 --> 04:27:51.200
so that our tribe could
make a positive report
04:27:51.200 --> 04:27:52.630
back to the CPUC and say,
04:27:52.630 --> 04:27:55.990
this is how things have
changed for the better.
04:27:55.990 --> 04:27:57.901
Our expectation is that PacifiCorp
04:27:57.901 --> 04:28:01.520
will be reaching out to PG&E
and the Karuk Tribe soon
04:28:01.520 --> 04:28:05.603
to set up similar communication
structures as PG&E has
04:28:05.603 --> 04:28:07.380
that will enhance public safety
04:28:07.380 --> 04:28:10.910
and ensure a much needed
partnership is being cultivated
04:28:10.910 --> 04:28:13.563
with an IOU that services,
04:28:14.600 --> 04:28:17.200
that maintained services
in our sovereign territory.
04:28:18.390 --> 04:28:23.260
My contact information
is jaysaxon@cutter.us.
04:28:23.260 --> 04:28:28.260
My phone number 5304931600,
extension 2037, thank you.
04:28:38.037 --> 04:28:39.037
Thank you.
04:28:39.970 --> 04:28:43.593
Next let's go to Mr. York
from San Diego 2-1-1.
04:28:46.780 --> 04:28:50.250
Good afternoon, again,
my name is Billy York,
04:28:50.250 --> 04:28:51.510
I'm the president and CEO
04:28:51.510 --> 04:28:54.460
of 2-1-1 San Diego Imperial counties.
04:28:54.460 --> 04:28:56.470
Thank you for having me today
04:28:56.470 --> 04:28:58.110
representing at least in San Diego,
04:28:58.110 --> 04:28:59.730
some of our community-based organization
04:28:59.730 --> 04:29:02.855
and the role of 2-1-1, so I
thank you the Commissioners
04:29:02.855 --> 04:29:05.869
and the Public Utility
Commission for hosting us.
04:29:05.869 --> 04:29:08.240
It's 2-1-1 where we're
thankful to the Commission
04:29:08.240 --> 04:29:11.740
because you actually
gave us 2-1-1 in San Diego
04:29:11.740 --> 04:29:13.038
approved in the line of San
Diego in 2004, the dialing code
04:29:13.038 --> 04:29:18.038
and we've been at 2-1-1 since 2005
04:29:20.480 --> 04:29:22.970
when we started the
launch and took our first call.
04:29:22.970 --> 04:29:24.860
A little bit about us is,
04:29:24.860 --> 04:29:26.860
I don't do any presentation where I do,
04:29:26.860 --> 04:29:28.360
you know, I realized that
04:29:28.360 --> 04:29:31.360
although we've been
mentioned several times today,
04:29:31.360 --> 04:29:33.700
and we're part of and
a lot of people's tongues
04:29:33.700 --> 04:29:34.533
with different things,
04:29:34.533 --> 04:29:36.223
whether it's COVID or social services,
04:29:37.071 --> 04:29:38.150
a lot of people don't know what 2-1-1 is
04:29:38.150 --> 04:29:39.320
and where it came from.
04:29:39.320 --> 04:29:44.320
So just a little preface to that
is 2-1-1 came on the scene
04:29:45.120 --> 04:29:48.830
in 2000 after the FCC
approved the dialing code,
04:29:48.830 --> 04:29:50.910
and in California, that
started spreading quickly
04:29:50.910 --> 04:29:55.910
after 2000, us receiving
the dialing code in 2005,
04:29:55.950 --> 04:29:59.300
so we've had about 16 years
of doing information referral.
04:29:59.300 --> 04:30:00.810
At the core of what we do,
04:30:00.810 --> 04:30:03.240
we connect to community
resources, individuals,
04:30:03.240 --> 04:30:05.090
citizens to information
04:30:05.090 --> 04:30:06.630
around community-based organizations,
04:30:06.630 --> 04:30:09.650
government benefit
programs and disaster.
04:30:09.650 --> 04:30:14.310
It was quickly after 9/11
that the FCC and others,
04:30:14.310 --> 04:30:15.770
the Brookings Institute realized
04:30:15.770 --> 04:30:20.530
that there were over 200 numbers
set up in New York and DC.
04:30:20.530 --> 04:30:24.230
That was the exact quote was
haphazard and disorganized
04:30:24.230 --> 04:30:28.910
for 800 numbers to find
information around and post-9/11.
04:30:28.910 --> 04:30:31.530
So in Connecticut, D.C. and New York,
04:30:31.530 --> 04:30:34.710
and so there was a lot of
reports and actually research done
04:30:34.710 --> 04:30:37.240
that 2-1-1 could be
used in a disaster support
04:30:37.240 --> 04:30:38.940
to really pull off those calls off,
04:30:38.940 --> 04:30:41.930
100 numbers and easy
to remember dialing code,
04:30:41.930 --> 04:30:45.520
but also in disaster to the
non-emergency life-threatening.
04:30:45.520 --> 04:30:48.925
And so we played that role since 2006.
04:30:48.925 --> 04:30:51.540
In 2006, San Diego
County saw the opportunity
04:30:51.540 --> 04:30:54.340
to leverage 2-1-1 that
was again, taking off here
04:30:54.340 --> 04:30:57.770
and growing in size and scale
to be able to offer services,
04:30:57.770 --> 04:31:00.210
but also to look at the fire threat
04:31:00.210 --> 04:31:04.160
that here in the wildfire and
in 2007, we were first tested,
04:31:04.160 --> 04:31:06.730
so we have a relationship
directly with San Diego County
04:31:06.730 --> 04:31:11.090
as early as, again in 2006,
tested in 2007, by the way,
04:31:11.090 --> 04:31:13.990
that's why I started here
as a volunteer at 2-1-1,
04:31:13.990 --> 04:31:15.700
and you know, trial by fire,
04:31:15.700 --> 04:31:18.710
I came in the second day
and I've been here ever since.
04:31:18.710 --> 04:31:22.680
So it's interesting that I'm
speaking to you now about PSPS
04:31:22.680 --> 04:31:24.400
when our disaster resume
04:31:24.400 --> 04:31:25.950
and the way that we're used in San Diego
04:31:25.950 --> 04:31:28.310
is just a little bit different
than some of the other 2-1-1
04:31:28.310 --> 04:31:29.490
that were completely embedded
04:31:29.490 --> 04:31:31.810
in our San Diego County infrastructure,
04:31:31.810 --> 04:31:35.050
office of emergency services
and all being a nonprofit,
04:31:35.050 --> 04:31:37.570
which is one of the
requirements of a 2-1-1
04:31:37.570 --> 04:31:39.670
is it's run by a nonprofit.
04:31:39.670 --> 04:31:43.290
And so being embedded in
our office of emergency services,
04:31:43.290 --> 04:31:45.050
having relationships and information
04:31:45.050 --> 04:31:49.390
providing from not only our
IOU, the SDG&E but our county,
04:31:49.390 --> 04:31:52.420
CAL FIRE and other
state entities that we have
04:31:52.420 --> 04:31:54.810
that valid up-to-date
vetted information.
04:31:54.810 --> 04:31:57.040
So every day we're providing
social service referrals
04:31:57.040 --> 04:31:58.550
to community-based organizations,
04:31:58.550 --> 04:32:01.830
working with 1200 partners
and 6,000 resources,
04:32:01.830 --> 04:32:04.430
and then during fire disaster PSPS,
04:32:04.430 --> 04:32:06.760
you do a COVID where we launched
04:32:06.760 --> 04:32:10.410
into a whole nother
realm of possibilities,
04:32:10.410 --> 04:32:12.540
and I think that's what we've done here
04:32:12.540 --> 04:32:14.370
around energy assistance,
04:32:14.370 --> 04:32:17.970
again, a partnership that goes
back with SDG&E for 16 years,
04:32:17.970 --> 04:32:21.890
again, connecting our
citizens to support mechanisms
04:32:21.890 --> 04:32:23.340
around the California air rates
04:32:23.340 --> 04:32:25.530
for energy screening and rolling,
04:32:25.530 --> 04:32:27.197
we're actually on the back of the bill
04:32:27.197 --> 04:32:29.970
for SDG&E bill here in San Diego
04:32:29.970 --> 04:32:32.560
to know when to call for
information around the bill
04:32:32.560 --> 04:32:34.570
or information around customer service
04:32:34.570 --> 04:32:36.530
or relaying back to SDG&E.
04:32:36.530 --> 04:32:39.190
So we're embedded in
sort of the infrastructure
04:32:39.190 --> 04:32:42.010
of our utility assistance provider.
04:32:42.010 --> 04:32:44.080
And with that, we became
better understanding
04:32:44.080 --> 04:32:46.820
with better understanding of FERA care.
04:32:46.820 --> 04:32:49.380
Again, all of the fire related
things you can imagine
04:32:49.380 --> 04:32:51.300
and each time we get
launched, we learn more.
04:32:51.300 --> 04:32:54.270
Our disaster resume is
extensive and our partnerships
04:32:54.270 --> 04:32:57.950
to both the county as
well as SDG&E are strong.
04:32:57.950 --> 04:33:01.267
So, which leads us to our
partnership around PSPS.
04:33:01.267 --> 04:33:04.270
The last few years of
PSPS was rolled out,
04:33:04.270 --> 04:33:08.070
we realized speaking to
millions of people over the years
04:33:08.070 --> 04:33:09.750
around what power shutoffs look like,
04:33:09.750 --> 04:33:11.343
what fire safety looks like,
04:33:13.000 --> 04:33:14.627
and all of the things
that happen in wildfire
04:33:14.627 --> 04:33:16.140
and that mitigation.
04:33:16.140 --> 04:33:18.050
And so we have been
delivering that type of service
04:33:18.050 --> 04:33:20.300
to our clients for a
long time, our citizens.
04:33:20.300 --> 04:33:22.630
So PSPS was really the next partnership,
04:33:22.630 --> 04:33:24.310
so from a community-based organization,
04:33:24.310 --> 04:33:28.092
working with community based
organizations, government IOUs,
04:33:28.092 --> 04:33:31.100
like SDG&E we've been able
to deliver an additional service
04:33:31.100 --> 04:33:33.260
in looking at protocols and process
04:33:33.260 --> 04:33:34.930
for our power deactivation.
04:33:34.930 --> 04:33:36.040
Again, having a voice straight
04:33:36.040 --> 04:33:39.110
to our wildfire mitigation council
04:33:39.110 --> 04:33:40.490
and we serve our entire region.
04:33:40.490 --> 04:33:43.910
So we've been able to work
with SDG&E and our IOU
04:33:43.910 --> 04:33:46.230
to build a process with our CBOs,
04:33:46.230 --> 04:33:47.570
again, with that linchpin
04:33:47.570 --> 04:33:49.630
to a lot of our
community-based organizations,
04:33:49.630 --> 04:33:51.490
we're proud of the
partnership over the last year
04:33:51.490 --> 04:33:54.400
that we formed in our PSPS program.
04:33:54.400 --> 04:33:56.760
Again, working with our other
community-based organizations
04:33:56.760 --> 04:34:00.080
like Jewish family services,
fact, salvation army,
04:34:00.080 --> 04:34:02.240
we've been able to do
some really impactful things
04:34:02.240 --> 04:34:05.280
in this last fire season,
in the last PSPS times,
04:34:05.280 --> 04:34:06.950
we've actually had eight activations
04:34:06.950 --> 04:34:09.337
and we have incredible
results of the impact
04:34:09.337 --> 04:34:11.460
and what that looks like and
I'm happy to share with you
04:34:11.460 --> 04:34:14.599
at any questions as we
talk more about PSPS
04:34:14.599 --> 04:34:16.330
and what we've learned
in the last few years.
04:34:16.330 --> 04:34:17.163
Thank you.
04:34:19.580 --> 04:34:23.000
Thank you and now let's
circle back to Mayor Crowder.
04:34:23.000 --> 04:34:23.913
Mayor Crowder?
04:34:25.150 --> 04:34:27.600
Good afternoon,
can you hear me?
04:34:27.600 --> 04:34:29.750
We can see and
hear you perfectly.
04:34:29.750 --> 04:34:31.530
Thank you so much.
04:34:31.530 --> 04:34:33.623
Okay, perfect,
sorry about that.
04:34:35.020 --> 04:34:38.200
Supervisor Teeter kind of
took all of my thunder here,
04:34:38.200 --> 04:34:42.840
so I'll still try to make
some points here.
04:34:42.840 --> 04:34:47.840
We're definitely not unique
in the PSPS situations,
04:34:48.970 --> 04:34:53.970
anybody else who's spoken,
we are a little bit unique
04:34:55.090 --> 04:34:58.290
is the fire that came through here,
04:34:58.290 --> 04:35:02.773
the campfire destroyed
95% of our entire town.
04:35:04.140 --> 04:35:06.663
We're making good
progress and rebuilding.
04:35:08.330 --> 04:35:10.980
PG&E is under grounding our entire town,
04:35:10.980 --> 04:35:13.920
which we're extremely grateful for,
04:35:13.920 --> 04:35:17.823
we'll be a much safer
community for that.
04:35:18.710 --> 04:35:22.890
We went from a town of
27,000 people overnight
04:35:22.890 --> 04:35:25.370
to a town of 3000 people.
04:35:25.370 --> 04:35:29.513
Right now we sit at five
to 6,000 in population,
04:35:31.290 --> 04:35:35.920
like everybody else, the
PSPSs affect our businesses,
04:35:35.920 --> 04:35:39.763
our medical needs residents,
our regular residents.
04:35:41.780 --> 04:35:46.700
The differences are especially
our businesses are struggling
04:35:46.700 --> 04:35:50.500
to start with the loss in population,
04:35:50.500 --> 04:35:54.790
COVID, our restaurants
which we only have a few
04:35:54.790 --> 04:35:58.120
are just hanging on by a thread.
04:35:58.120 --> 04:36:01.114
Every time a PSPS comes around
04:36:01.114 --> 04:36:03.350
they're throwing out a ton of food
04:36:03.350 --> 04:36:08.350
because they're without
power for two or three days.
04:36:10.060 --> 04:36:13.080
We're having residents
that are on the fence,
04:36:13.080 --> 04:36:16.180
do we come back and
live like a third world country
04:36:16.180 --> 04:36:17.893
or do we go somewhere else?
04:36:19.380 --> 04:36:21.330
It's really tough for us.
04:36:21.330 --> 04:36:24.160
Our schools, our kids are
having a heck of a time,
04:36:24.160 --> 04:36:28.750
again, COVID is impacting
the in-person learning
04:36:28.750 --> 04:36:31.663
and then when we have a PSPS,
04:36:32.869 --> 04:36:36.410
a good part of us lose our
internet, our cell service,
04:36:36.410 --> 04:36:39.383
so our kids are falling
further and further behind.
04:36:41.240 --> 04:36:44.080
One of the biggest
struggles was last year
04:36:44.080 --> 04:36:49.080
during the Bear Fire, we faced
two town evacuation warnings
04:36:50.890 --> 04:36:55.230
while those were under
a PSPS event for us.
04:36:55.230 --> 04:36:59.823
So again, a good part of
our residents had no internet,
04:37:00.880 --> 04:37:04.770
so there was problems
relaying information
04:37:04.770 --> 04:37:06.300
from the fire anyway,
04:37:06.300 --> 04:37:10.000
I was literally up all
night fielding phone calls
04:37:10.000 --> 04:37:12.823
from people that had
the ability to get out.
04:37:14.825 --> 04:37:16.670
It's just been a real struggle
04:37:16.670 --> 04:37:19.060
and it is affecting our rebuild
04:37:19.060 --> 04:37:23.103
and I guess what we
need to really see is,
04:37:24.740 --> 04:37:29.080
I'm hoping that we can get
isolated off of the normal grid
04:37:29.080 --> 04:37:34.080
as we underground because
I just don't see us being able
04:37:34.210 --> 04:37:38.340
to wait four years until
this project is complete
04:37:38.340 --> 04:37:42.930
to have these PSPSs go away
04:37:42.930 --> 04:37:46.210
and like a supervisor Teeter had said,
04:37:46.210 --> 04:37:47.460
then you've got a judge
04:37:47.460 --> 04:37:49.933
that wants to double the number of them.
04:37:51.060 --> 04:37:54.647
I mean, we're scraping and
scrapping and trying to come back
04:37:54.647 --> 04:37:56.180
but we need some help in this,
04:37:56.180 --> 04:37:58.883
so anyway, thank you
very much for listening.
04:38:00.930 --> 04:38:01.867
And thank you.
04:38:03.215 --> 04:38:05.440
Time is going much
faster than I anticipated,
04:38:05.440 --> 04:38:07.810
so what I think I'll jump to
04:38:07.810 --> 04:38:12.750
is letting you guys have
some time, you panelist
04:38:12.750 --> 04:38:15.003
to ask some questions
directly of the IOUs,
04:38:16.023 --> 04:38:17.640
unlike the last panel AFN,
04:38:17.640 --> 04:38:19.583
where things were sort of Statewide,
04:38:20.520 --> 04:38:22.440
we still have a bit of a regional focus,
04:38:22.440 --> 04:38:26.550
so what I'd like to do is
maybe by IOU open it up
04:38:26.550 --> 04:38:30.780
to some questions and we
went north to south before,
04:38:30.780 --> 04:38:33.443
so maybe we'll reverse it
and go sort of Southern up.
04:38:34.560 --> 04:38:36.300
If we have a first question
04:38:36.300 --> 04:38:38.410
or so first San Diego Gas and Electric,
04:38:38.410 --> 04:38:41.290
I'd like to throw that out and
then we'll move to Edison.
04:38:41.290 --> 04:38:45.140
Any questions that
any of the panelists have
04:38:45.140 --> 04:38:46.793
for San Diego Gas and Electric?
04:38:53.120 --> 04:38:55.090
Okay, I'm not seeing--
04:38:57.960 --> 04:39:01.834
Stephanie, you know, I
think I'm the only San Diegon
04:39:01.834 --> 04:39:05.160
on the call, right, so
it's interesting because,
04:39:05.160 --> 04:39:06.910
which I'm glad, happy to represent.
04:39:07.790 --> 04:39:12.280
So I don't have any but I do
think my point, I wanna make,
04:39:12.280 --> 04:39:14.920
I don't have any direct
questions for SDG&E
04:39:14.920 --> 04:39:18.870
because we're really
embedded in the PSPS process.
04:39:18.870 --> 04:39:22.750
So and I think that's part of the point
04:39:22.750 --> 04:39:24.660
of what my talking
today was talking about,
04:39:24.660 --> 04:39:27.190
what our process has
changed and what we've seen
04:39:27.190 --> 04:39:29.910
over the years here
being the information arm
04:39:29.910 --> 04:39:31.550
and the information on for our County
04:39:31.550 --> 04:39:33.030
to having that dialing code.
04:39:33.030 --> 04:39:36.080
But we, part of our PSPS partnership
04:39:36.080 --> 04:39:39.760
is really about, that communication.
04:39:39.760 --> 04:39:40.740
So, I mean, I get asked
04:39:40.740 --> 04:39:42.970
what's the secret sauce is in San Diego
04:39:42.970 --> 04:39:45.000
and it really is because
we have direct line
04:39:45.000 --> 04:39:46.300
and ongoing communication.
04:39:46.300 --> 04:39:50.100
So anything that we have as
our community-based organization
04:39:50.100 --> 04:39:55.100
and 2-1-1 providing that
service for PSPS of navigating
04:39:55.300 --> 04:39:58.020
very complex needs in partnership
04:39:58.020 --> 04:40:03.020
is that we have a two-way collaboration
04:40:04.080 --> 04:40:05.300
and communication constantly.
04:40:05.300 --> 04:40:10.300
And if PSPS launch, it is
feverously communicating
04:40:10.800 --> 04:40:12.410
right down to case-by-case basis.
04:40:12.410 --> 04:40:14.030
So I don't have any,
04:40:14.030 --> 04:40:16.060
but I wanted to make sure
I represented San Diego
04:40:16.060 --> 04:40:17.480
for what it looks like for us
04:40:17.480 --> 04:40:19.730
that actually are on the
side of the community
04:40:19.730 --> 04:40:23.050
and community-based
organizations once a PSPS happens
04:40:23.050 --> 04:40:25.180
So, thanks.
04:40:25.180 --> 04:40:27.050
That's really helpful and it sounds like
04:40:27.050 --> 04:40:30.840
it's a good role model
for the rest of the state
04:40:30.840 --> 04:40:33.040
in terms of the
collaboration, so thank you.
04:40:35.050 --> 04:40:37.050
Well, I know the next area,
04:40:37.050 --> 04:40:38.420
Southern California, Edison,
04:40:38.420 --> 04:40:40.800
I know we definitely will
have some questions coming
04:40:40.800 --> 04:40:42.393
from some of our panelists.
04:40:43.750 --> 04:40:48.429
So I'll open it up for those other parts
04:40:48.429 --> 04:40:50.137
of Southern California
04:40:50.137 --> 04:40:52.073
and Southern California
Edison to address.
04:40:53.670 --> 04:40:56.513
I have a question,
this is Mayor Mashburn.
04:41:02.820 --> 04:41:05.330
Go ahead Mayor Mashburn.
04:41:05.330 --> 04:41:06.833
My first question is,
04:41:08.596 --> 04:41:11.930
and I'm going back several
years and we worked very closely
04:41:11.930 --> 04:41:16.459
with Edison and when I
was with the fire department
04:41:16.459 --> 04:41:20.690
and all indications
are they no longer do
04:41:20.690 --> 04:41:24.930
preventative inspections
of the conductors
04:41:24.930 --> 04:41:27.620
that run through the wild land areas
04:41:27.620 --> 04:41:32.110
and I'm wondering why that
isn't the case, because it seemed
04:41:32.110 --> 04:41:35.310
to be a very successful
program when I was doing it back
04:41:35.310 --> 04:41:39.550
in the early 2000s and we
had a very close relationship
04:41:39.550 --> 04:41:44.550
with the folks from
Edison and if we look
04:41:45.260 --> 04:41:50.230
at the history of fires,
I think you would see
04:41:50.230 --> 04:41:53.820
that those were very
successful inspections
04:41:53.820 --> 04:41:56.770
in preventing fires.
04:41:56.770 --> 04:41:59.670
So that's a question I have is,
04:41:59.670 --> 04:42:02.100
are you reaching out, are you trying to,
04:42:02.100 --> 04:42:06.890
or do you meet with
the local fire authorities
04:42:06.890 --> 04:42:08.623
and actually go out and inspect?
04:42:12.040 --> 04:42:14.780
Hi Stephanie,
this is Larry Chan.
04:42:14.780 --> 04:42:17.890
I just wanna take a quick
moment to introduce myself
04:42:17.890 --> 04:42:19.260
on behalf of Edison.
04:42:19.260 --> 04:42:22.580
So I serve as the Vice
President of Local Public Affairs
04:42:22.580 --> 04:42:26.340
and I believe it's my first
time in front of this body.
04:42:26.340 --> 04:42:29.410
So I just wanna quickly introduce myself
04:42:29.410 --> 04:42:31.903
and get to Mayor happens question,
04:42:33.360 --> 04:42:35.800
first of all, I wanna mention
04:42:35.800 --> 04:42:38.110
that I think many of the questions
04:42:38.110 --> 04:42:39.380
that we've heard throughout the day
04:42:39.380 --> 04:42:42.260
and certainly Mayor
Mashburn, your question
04:42:42.260 --> 04:42:44.770
it can certainly boil
down to communication
04:42:46.060 --> 04:42:50.010
and we've recognized kind
of the hardships and impacts
04:42:50.010 --> 04:42:53.920
that PSPS has had particularly in 2020,
04:42:53.920 --> 04:42:56.450
and so, we are really committed
04:42:56.450 --> 04:42:59.200
to improving our communication
with our local governments
04:42:59.200 --> 04:43:01.290
and tribal partners as well,
04:43:01.290 --> 04:43:03.320
but just to answer your question
04:43:03.320 --> 04:43:06.680
specifically Mayor
Mashburn, and by the way,
04:43:06.680 --> 04:43:08.493
I'm pleased to be introduced to you,
04:43:09.690 --> 04:43:14.220
we do in fact work
with our fire agencies
04:43:14.220 --> 04:43:17.290
specifically Ventura County Fire,
04:43:17.290 --> 04:43:21.430
and we do in fact conduct
enhanced overhead inspections
04:43:21.430 --> 04:43:23.053
of our infrastructure,
04:43:24.380 --> 04:43:27.530
and while it may
not be kind of, I think,
04:43:27.530 --> 04:43:29.470
the partnership that
you're talking about,
04:43:29.470 --> 04:43:34.470
I do think we have an ability
to communicate that better
04:43:34.590 --> 04:43:39.590
to you and to the city
and we certainly comply
04:43:39.982 --> 04:43:44.420
with all of the enhanced
mitigations for wildfire risks,
04:43:44.420 --> 04:43:46.620
and we regularly inspect our lines,
04:43:46.620 --> 04:43:50.720
Project Santa Ana in Ventura
County is a perfect example
04:43:50.720 --> 04:43:53.670
of that and certainly,
so if that's not something
04:43:53.670 --> 04:43:56.350
that we are communicating
regular to you,
04:43:56.350 --> 04:43:57.710
certainly committed to making sure
04:43:57.710 --> 04:43:59.110
that communication is better
04:43:59.970 --> 04:44:01.457
Yeah, no, I appreciate that
04:44:01.457 --> 04:44:03.750
and I know there
there's two sides to this.
04:44:03.750 --> 04:44:05.840
There's the art department side
04:44:05.840 --> 04:44:08.010
and then of course there's the SCE side
04:44:08.010 --> 04:44:10.830
and both sides have to
reach out to each other.
04:44:10.830 --> 04:44:15.830
I just know that back
in the early 2000s,
04:44:16.690 --> 04:44:20.080
it certainly seemed to be
a very successful program
04:44:20.080 --> 04:44:25.080
and I would like to see it brought back
04:44:25.100 --> 04:44:27.730
or see if it may be it is being done
04:44:27.730 --> 04:44:29.540
and we're just not aware of it.
04:44:29.540 --> 04:44:33.460
Now, our area's a
little different in that
04:44:33.460 --> 04:44:36.300
I think the circuits that
are affecting our city
04:44:36.300 --> 04:44:41.300
only go into a wild land
area to a very small degree,
04:44:41.610 --> 04:44:43.570
so it's not a big task,
04:44:43.570 --> 04:44:45.820
like it may be in some
of the other counties.
04:44:47.660 --> 04:44:50.070
Yeah, I do know that there
are fire management officers
04:44:50.070 --> 04:44:52.760
are quite closely connected
to the fire agencies,
04:44:52.760 --> 04:44:55.520
so I promise you, I'm
taking copious notes,
04:44:55.520 --> 04:44:56.680
and I can make sure
04:44:56.680 --> 04:44:58.540
that we are communicating
a little bit better
04:44:58.540 --> 04:45:00.966
with you in the future on that.
04:45:00.966 --> 04:45:02.420
I appreciate.
04:45:02.420 --> 04:45:04.070
And then the second question,
04:45:04.070 --> 04:45:05.590
can we have a list of the circuits,
04:45:05.590 --> 04:45:08.280
including location of transmission lines
04:45:08.280 --> 04:45:13.280
that have been hardened or
upgraded to the insulated lines?
04:45:13.490 --> 04:45:15.930
So we can kind of take a look and see,
04:45:15.930 --> 04:45:19.794
because we know the
circuits that come into our city
04:45:19.794 --> 04:45:23.090
and we know if they're
coming out of a wild-land area
04:45:23.090 --> 04:45:24.720
and that's why they're being shut off
04:45:24.720 --> 04:45:27.540
but it has a tremendous
effect on our city
04:45:27.540 --> 04:45:28.970
and we would like to keep track of it,
04:45:28.970 --> 04:45:33.440
so we can relay that
information to the constituency,
04:45:33.440 --> 04:45:35.970
letting them know the
progress that's being made.
04:45:35.970 --> 04:45:38.620
And there has been
great progress by the way
04:45:38.620 --> 04:45:42.400
and I commend SCE for that,
04:45:42.400 --> 04:45:46.438
they've reduced the
number of PSPS events
04:45:46.438 --> 04:45:49.680
and they've also reduced
the number of people
04:45:49.680 --> 04:45:52.900
that it'll impact but we
would like to be in a position
04:45:52.900 --> 04:45:55.930
to have that information
so we can share it
04:45:55.930 --> 04:45:58.663
with our very interested constituency.
04:46:00.750 --> 04:46:02.540
Well, Mayor Mashburn first,
04:46:02.540 --> 04:46:04.910
I actually would like to say thank you
04:46:04.910 --> 04:46:07.160
you know, to President Batjer,
04:46:07.160 --> 04:46:10.890
one of your comments this
morning about this panel,
04:46:10.890 --> 04:46:14.500
sort of being an opportunity
to listen and gain feedback.
04:46:14.500 --> 04:46:17.520
I think know that's something
that we take very seriously
04:46:17.520 --> 04:46:21.590
and so we appreciate the
comments and Mayor Mashburn,
04:46:21.590 --> 04:46:23.660
if I could just use this opportunity
04:46:23.660 --> 04:46:25.720
to highlight your question
04:46:25.720 --> 04:46:30.460
about receiving sort of
more information, more data,
04:46:30.460 --> 04:46:34.690
I think it's a really perfect
example of how we are seeking
04:46:34.690 --> 04:46:38.410
to improve particularly
in PSPS communications,
04:46:38.410 --> 04:46:42.713
you mentioned the traffic
signals in Simi Valley,
04:46:42.713 --> 04:46:47.713
that was sort of a direct
circumstance of communication
04:46:47.780 --> 04:46:50.140
between Edison and your city
04:46:50.140 --> 04:46:54.130
and so we are really
happy to be able to mitigate
04:46:54.130 --> 04:46:58.640
some of the PSPS
impacts on the traffic signals
04:46:58.640 --> 04:47:00.980
to make your system
more resilient there,
04:47:00.980 --> 04:47:04.610
but again, that comes
because of your communication.
04:47:04.610 --> 04:47:07.370
And so thank you for those comments,
04:47:07.370 --> 04:47:09.270
we will continue to do that.
04:47:09.270 --> 04:47:11.940
So the answer to your question is yes,
04:47:11.940 --> 04:47:16.420
and I believe it was just
last week we had a meeting
04:47:16.420 --> 04:47:18.570
with the community of Simi Valley,
04:47:18.570 --> 04:47:21.510
so we will get that information to you,
04:47:21.510 --> 04:47:23.590
I believe we shared that with staff,
04:47:23.590 --> 04:47:25.080
we'll certainly get that to you again,
04:47:25.080 --> 04:47:28.970
but again, I wanted to just
highlight the appreciation
04:47:28.970 --> 04:47:31.340
for the collaboration and
the feedback is welcome
04:47:31.340 --> 04:47:33.690
and we're gonna strive
to do better and do more,
04:47:33.690 --> 04:47:35.170
so thank you.
04:47:35.170 --> 04:47:37.254
Yes, no and thank you.
04:47:37.254 --> 04:47:39.210
There is a noticeable change
04:47:39.210 --> 04:47:43.340
and I think it'll show up as
we have these new events,
04:47:43.340 --> 04:47:46.667
that new PSPS events
04:47:46.667 --> 04:47:50.773
and it won't be as impactful
on us, that's for sure.
04:47:54.740 --> 04:47:57.790
That's all the questions I
have, thank you very much.
04:47:57.790 --> 04:48:00.300
Thank you, and to San Clarita,
04:48:00.300 --> 04:48:01.610
did you have any questions
04:48:01.610 --> 04:48:06.610
either for Edison or any of
the IOU panelists, I guess?
04:48:06.900 --> 04:48:10.372
Yeah, thanks Stephanie,
this is Lucy from San Clarita.
04:48:10.372 --> 04:48:12.800
Before I deliver my question,
04:48:12.800 --> 04:48:16.360
I did wanna just say
on Mayor happens point,
04:48:16.360 --> 04:48:18.500
we also have seen improvements
04:48:18.500 --> 04:48:21.840
made by Southern California Edison,
04:48:21.840 --> 04:48:24.360
specifically in regard to segmentation
04:48:25.690 --> 04:48:27.090
during a PSPS event,
04:48:27.090 --> 04:48:30.840
that's significantly reduced
the impact of PSPS events
04:48:30.840 --> 04:48:32.693
that we've experienced in our city,
04:48:33.750 --> 04:48:35.640
and that's been something
that we've continued
04:48:35.640 --> 04:48:37.450
to communicate to representatives,
04:48:37.450 --> 04:48:40.320
our regional representatives
at Edison as well.
04:48:40.320 --> 04:48:45.320
So any programs or
efforts to reduce impacts
04:48:47.000 --> 04:48:49.050
like segmentation has
definitely been something
04:48:49.050 --> 04:48:50.700
that we've encouraged.
04:48:50.700 --> 04:48:54.770
In addition to that communication
has definitely improved
04:48:54.770 --> 04:48:56.640
not only to city officials,
04:48:56.640 --> 04:48:58.940
both our city council and city staff
04:48:58.940 --> 04:49:01.260
but in addition to that also rate payers
04:49:01.260 --> 04:49:02.370
within the community as well,
04:49:02.370 --> 04:49:06.350
I know Edison hosted a
community town hall for specifically
04:49:06.350 --> 04:49:08.400
in San Clarita Valley last week,
04:49:08.400 --> 04:49:12.170
in addition to a meeting
that they had with myself
04:49:12.170 --> 04:49:15.400
and our mayor and mayor pro
tem providing those updates.
04:49:15.400 --> 04:49:19.590
So we definitely appreciate
the increased communication
04:49:19.590 --> 04:49:22.470
and the efforts that
Edison has made recently,
04:49:22.470 --> 04:49:24.880
just to provide updates on
their plans moving forward,
04:49:24.880 --> 04:49:29.880
but with that said, given the
expedited and immediate plans
04:49:30.660 --> 04:49:33.880
in regard to grid hardening
within Santa Clarita,
04:49:33.880 --> 04:49:38.880
my question is what are Edison's
plans on providing updates
04:49:39.360 --> 04:49:43.760
on progress these next
six months in grid hardening
04:49:43.760 --> 04:49:44.673
to the community?
04:49:46.320 --> 04:49:48.020
Yeah, thanks for the question.
04:49:48.020 --> 04:49:49.890
You know, as I mentioned earlier,
04:49:49.890 --> 04:49:52.520
I think communication is
absolutely key to all of this,
04:49:52.520 --> 04:49:55.840
we've heard the feedback
from elected officials
04:49:55.840 --> 04:49:59.223
from our community,
from this body here as well,
04:50:00.600 --> 04:50:04.150
I believe today we've had two meetings,
04:50:04.150 --> 04:50:06.710
as you mentioned in
the Santa Clarita Valley,
04:50:06.710 --> 04:50:09.050
as well as in Simi Valley,
04:50:09.050 --> 04:50:13.400
we have at least 10 more
meetings community scheduled
04:50:13.400 --> 04:50:14.830
for the rest of the year
04:50:14.830 --> 04:50:18.360
to go specifically over
grid hardening measures.
04:50:18.360 --> 04:50:21.080
I think one of the pieces of
feedback that we received
04:50:21.080 --> 04:50:22.600
that was quite helpful to us
04:50:22.600 --> 04:50:27.080
was that there needs
to be sort of an increase
04:50:28.100 --> 04:50:33.100
in customer community
communications and transparency,
04:50:33.640 --> 04:50:35.430
and so we are striving to ensure
04:50:35.430 --> 04:50:37.400
that when we have these meetings,
04:50:37.400 --> 04:50:40.870
the decision making process,
improving communications
04:50:40.870 --> 04:50:42.580
and notifications and then actually
04:50:42.580 --> 04:50:45.330
on the back end enhancing
post event reporting
04:50:45.330 --> 04:50:48.120
is also something that
we're trying to focus on,
04:50:48.120 --> 04:50:51.570
and so, as I think we
had some staff members
04:50:51.570 --> 04:50:54.530
from the PSPS attend last week,
04:50:54.530 --> 04:50:57.200
making sure that we're
communicating things like
04:50:57.200 --> 04:50:59.253
in the Santa Clarita
Valley, for example,
04:51:00.940 --> 04:51:02.970
assuming similar conditions is 2020,
04:51:02.970 --> 04:51:05.803
we expect, 68% reduction,
04:51:07.020 --> 04:51:08.820
actually, I'm sorry, an 81% reduction
04:51:08.820 --> 04:51:11.980
in customer outage time due to PSPS
04:51:11.980 --> 04:51:15.300
across the frequently impacted circuits,
04:51:15.300 --> 04:51:18.820
communicating to the city
what circuits are impacted,
04:51:18.820 --> 04:51:22.320
what the mitigation
measures are going to be
04:51:22.320 --> 04:51:24.430
and just really just education
04:51:24.430 --> 04:51:29.060
about when impacts are going to occur
04:51:29.060 --> 04:51:31.140
and then also cleaning
up the notifications as well,
04:51:31.140 --> 04:51:34.510
so those are all specifics
around grid hardening
04:51:34.510 --> 04:51:38.120
that we wanna continue to
educate the community on
04:51:38.120 --> 04:51:40.760
and as I mentioned, at least planning
04:51:40.760 --> 04:51:43.120
on having a 10 more this year.
04:51:43.120 --> 04:51:44.500
I'll also, I wanna take a moment,
04:51:44.500 --> 04:51:47.100
I didn't recognize my
team members on the call,
04:51:47.100 --> 04:51:49.160
we do have Michael Quinn,
04:51:49.160 --> 04:51:52.710
who is our local public
affairs lead for PSPS,
04:51:52.710 --> 04:51:55.410
as well as Amy Olson, who
is our tribal engagement lead.
04:51:55.410 --> 04:51:57.750
So certainly, please
feel free to jump in
04:51:57.750 --> 04:52:01.203
if I've missed anything or if
you have follow-up questions.
04:52:10.990 --> 04:52:11.960
There was one
additional question
04:52:11.960 --> 04:52:16.960
that Santa Clarita had
on 2020 PSPS data,
04:52:17.180 --> 04:52:19.850
including the number of
households and businesses impacted
04:52:19.850 --> 04:52:23.760
by a PSPS event and the
number of total hours and residents
04:52:23.760 --> 04:52:27.250
or businesses owners have
experienced in a PSPS event.
04:52:27.250 --> 04:52:29.320
Apparently that data had been requested
04:52:29.320 --> 04:52:30.903
and they have not received it.
04:52:34.470 --> 04:52:36.630
Yeah and let me, this is
Masis Hagobian of San Clarita,
04:52:36.630 --> 04:52:37.831
let me add to that.
04:52:37.831 --> 04:52:41.500
This has been brought
up several different times
04:52:41.500 --> 04:52:43.300
and my understanding right now
04:52:43.300 --> 04:52:47.290
is our regional representatives
at Edison are working
04:52:47.290 --> 04:52:49.100
on aggregating that data for us,
04:52:49.100 --> 04:52:51.123
so that's the update there,
04:52:52.330 --> 04:52:53.500
we're gonna hang tight right now,
04:52:53.500 --> 04:52:56.420
but that is definitely
information that we'd like
04:52:56.420 --> 04:52:59.920
to see sooner than later
as we continue to strategize
04:52:59.920 --> 04:53:03.440
and try to provide
support to our residents
04:53:03.440 --> 04:53:08.120
and our businesses and with
the best effort moving forward.
04:53:08.120 --> 04:53:08.953
Thank you.
04:53:09.967 --> 04:53:11.930
And I've taken
note of that just now,
04:53:11.930 --> 04:53:14.000
happy to follow up with you afterwards
04:53:14.000 --> 04:53:16.043
to make sure we're
getting you that data.
04:53:17.130 --> 04:53:20.170
Okay, thank you.
Excellent.
04:53:20.170 --> 04:53:23.423
Are there any other
questions for Edison directly?
04:53:28.280 --> 04:53:31.540
I've noted here that we
have several tribal leads
04:53:33.380 --> 04:53:35.860
on the line and so I'm just wondering
04:53:35.860 --> 04:53:40.440
if Mr. Saxon has any specific questions
04:53:40.440 --> 04:53:43.050
for either the Tribal
Lead or PacifiCorp.
04:53:46.900 --> 04:53:48.210
Yeah, pretty simple.
04:53:48.210 --> 04:53:50.823
Is there anyone from
PacifiCorp on this call?
04:53:52.580 --> 04:53:55.060
Yeah, I'm Todd Andrews,
04:53:55.060 --> 04:53:59.280
I'm right here and I heard
your contact information,
04:53:59.280 --> 04:54:01.580
I'm looking forward
to reaching out to you
04:54:01.580 --> 04:54:02.910
and setting up a meeting.
04:54:02.910 --> 04:54:07.120
I've had the joy of working
with Scott Steinbrink
04:54:08.392 --> 04:54:12.410
on our wildfire council and talk to them
04:54:12.410 --> 04:54:16.147
about resiliency measures
programs that we have
04:54:16.147 --> 04:54:19.000
and I look forward to
working with you also.
04:54:19.000 --> 04:54:21.020
What was your
name again, I'm sorry?
04:54:21.020 --> 04:54:22.533
Todd Andrew.
04:54:24.650 --> 04:54:26.840
And I'll be in the
Lyrica actually tomorrow
04:54:26.840 --> 04:54:30.278
and I can reach out to you at that time,
04:54:30.278 --> 04:54:31.483
let's say at that time too.
04:54:32.380 --> 04:54:34.340
And what is your
title at PacifiCorp,
04:54:34.340 --> 04:54:35.173
what are you doing?
04:54:35.173 --> 04:54:36.910
I am the regional
business manager,
04:54:36.910 --> 04:54:40.520
so I represent the Siskiyou
County, Modoc County,
04:54:40.520 --> 04:54:42.270
little small parts of Shasta County
04:54:43.250 --> 04:54:45.150
and then some areas up in Oregon also.
04:54:46.000 --> 04:54:48.053
Does PacifiCorp
have a Tribal Liaison?
04:54:50.010 --> 04:54:52.890
I am not aware
of that at this time
04:54:52.890 --> 04:54:55.840
but there are senior executives
04:54:55.840 --> 04:54:58.250
on the call today too listening
04:54:58.250 --> 04:55:01.150
and it's something that we'll
definitely bring up to them.
04:55:02.910 --> 04:55:04.650
We would appreciate that.
04:55:04.650 --> 04:55:05.483
Thanks.
04:55:07.290 --> 04:55:09.830
Director Sachs, my
name is Justin Bukartek
04:55:09.830 --> 04:55:13.340
I'm the director of Emergency
Management for PacifiCorp.
04:55:13.340 --> 04:55:15.420
I've been with the
company for all the months
04:55:15.420 --> 04:55:17.270
I apologize that I'm not
in a position to speak
04:55:17.270 --> 04:55:19.410
on past experiences but that being said,
04:55:19.410 --> 04:55:22.760
I was brought in to address
gaps and unmet needs,
04:55:22.760 --> 04:55:25.230
particularly regarding our
emergency preparedness
04:55:25.230 --> 04:55:26.220
and response initiative,
04:55:26.220 --> 04:55:29.510
so my highest priority
coming in is to address
04:55:29.510 --> 04:55:32.720
and improve our PSPS
operations in regards
04:55:32.720 --> 04:55:34.862
to how we can better
serve our local partners
04:55:34.862 --> 04:55:36.310
and communities like yours
04:55:36.310 --> 04:55:39.100
during the planning and
execution of such an event.
04:55:39.100 --> 04:55:41.170
So I also look forward
to working with you
04:55:41.170 --> 04:55:42.770
in your community in the future.
04:55:44.366 --> 04:55:46.574
I appreciate that, definitely.
04:55:46.574 --> 04:55:50.550
and it's not just me, I
mean, we as the tribe,
04:55:50.550 --> 04:55:53.680
we have multiple
departments, multiple directors,
04:55:53.680 --> 04:55:57.320
that also are impacted by
PSPS and so it's very important
04:55:57.320 --> 04:56:00.067
that as information sharing happens
04:56:00.067 --> 04:56:03.590
and that partnership is
built, that I also I'm able
04:56:03.590 --> 04:56:07.870
to connect you with our regional folks
04:56:07.870 --> 04:56:10.086
in Happy Camp on Marietta
04:56:10.086 --> 04:56:11.730
that will be impacted as it will need
04:56:11.730 --> 04:56:13.510
to be part of that communication stream.
04:56:13.510 --> 04:56:14.698
So it's very important
04:56:14.698 --> 04:56:18.220
that we're behind the
eight ball and we need
04:56:18.220 --> 04:56:22.790
to move forward fairly quickly,
04:56:22.790 --> 04:56:26.480
especially with the fire season
approaching and wind events.
04:56:26.480 --> 04:56:28.300
It's already, I can look outside,
04:56:28.300 --> 04:56:30.010
I can see the wind blowing,
04:56:30.010 --> 04:56:33.263
it's not too bad but the
sooner the better, thank you.
04:56:34.340 --> 04:56:36.040
Commissioner
Rechtschaffen and I thought
04:56:36.040 --> 04:56:38.230
you were going to add something.
04:56:38.230 --> 04:56:40.070
Thank you, Just the follow-up,
04:56:40.070 --> 04:56:42.450
I was just gonna ask Justin or Todd,
04:56:42.450 --> 04:56:45.750
if they could follow up with
us because it sounds like
04:56:45.750 --> 04:56:48.950
from what Josh is saying,
that there's been no lines
04:56:48.950 --> 04:56:52.760
of communication between
PacifiCorp and the Karuk,
04:56:52.760 --> 04:56:57.413
and he has no idea
what your positions are,
04:56:58.560 --> 04:57:00.403
which is disturbing.
04:57:02.910 --> 04:57:05.710
I think we'd be interested
to learn what types
04:57:05.710 --> 04:57:09.970
of communication have
PacifiCorp engaged in in the past.
04:57:09.970 --> 04:57:11.740
I had enough with
Justin and Todd had said,
04:57:11.740 --> 04:57:14.320
you're only there a
month, so may not be,
04:57:14.320 --> 04:57:15.350
you may not have the history,
04:57:15.350 --> 04:57:16.610
but we'd certainly be interested
04:57:16.610 --> 04:57:18.210
in hearing more of that history.
04:57:19.130 --> 04:57:21.160
Yeah, thank you for
giving me an opportunity
04:57:21.160 --> 04:57:24.118
to talk a little bit about this.
04:57:24.118 --> 04:57:27.980
So I was brought in to the territory
04:57:27.980 --> 04:57:31.580
after a well-deserved
retirement in March, 2020
04:57:31.580 --> 04:57:34.090
and that's when I
started to take on the area
04:57:35.013 --> 04:57:36.670
of Siskiyou County and MODEC County
04:57:36.670 --> 04:57:41.108
and earlier today we
talked about challenges.
04:57:41.108 --> 04:57:45.720
I think COVID has
created some challenges
04:57:45.720 --> 04:57:48.983
of slightly strong
lines of communication,
04:57:50.970 --> 04:57:54.980
but recently I have been
able to find some contacts
04:57:54.980 --> 04:57:57.980
with the Karuk Tribe
and it started to begin
04:57:57.980 --> 04:58:00.090
to build on that and I'm
looking forward to build
04:58:00.090 --> 04:58:01.240
that even stronger
04:58:05.296 --> 04:58:06.296
Thank you.
04:58:08.820 --> 04:58:13.820
Okay, why don't we turn to PG&E?
04:58:15.230 --> 04:58:18.590
And if there's any questions of PG&E
04:58:18.590 --> 04:58:20.633
coming from Northern California?
04:58:30.000 --> 04:58:35.000
Supervisors Hopkins,
or tutor or mayor Prada.
04:58:38.170 --> 04:58:40.353
Hi, this is a
Supervisor Deck Teeter.
04:58:42.410 --> 04:58:44.470
You know, I think, you
know what I didn't cover it
04:58:44.470 --> 04:58:47.360
in the opening statement
is we've seen improvements
04:58:47.360 --> 04:58:51.120
like with that jail PG&E rerouted wires,
04:58:51.120 --> 04:58:53.963
pre-notification has improved to,
04:58:54.930 --> 04:58:58.660
in some cases down
to two day notification,
04:58:58.660 --> 04:59:03.070
we've had a microgrid created in Magalia
04:59:03.070 --> 04:59:07.040
and that is like connecting
a grocery store gas station,
04:59:07.040 --> 04:59:11.210
a rite aid, a fire station, a
sheriff substation, cell tower
04:59:11.210 --> 04:59:13.590
and the community water provider
04:59:13.590 --> 04:59:16.480
and I've heard there's plans to connect
04:59:16.480 --> 04:59:19.467
to the new underground
area in the Magalia
04:59:19.467 --> 04:59:24.210
and I think question-wise for PG&E,
04:59:24.210 --> 04:59:27.510
our jail has permanent
generators that were only designed
04:59:27.510 --> 04:59:29.560
to operate for short periods,
04:59:29.560 --> 04:59:34.560
we're renting other generators
and switch back and forth,
04:59:34.640 --> 04:59:37.340
as you could imagine with
having so many disasters
04:59:37.340 --> 04:59:39.870
in our county, our budget is challenged
04:59:39.870 --> 04:59:42.680
and financial assistance
04:59:42.680 --> 04:59:46.180
to fix a more permanent
generator solution
04:59:46.180 --> 04:59:49.240
would be welcomed.
04:59:49.240 --> 04:59:51.570
So I guess that's question number one.
04:59:51.570 --> 04:59:55.880
With microgrids, there
are current practices
04:59:55.880 --> 04:59:57.440
to use diesel generators
04:59:58.340 --> 05:00:01.300
and other solutions would be nice
05:00:01.300 --> 05:00:05.433
to have instead of the diesel.
05:00:06.540 --> 05:00:08.393
Emergency notification,
05:00:09.417 --> 05:00:12.210
I don't know what plan they
have to work with the county
05:00:12.210 --> 05:00:14.983
on improving that.
05:00:16.293 --> 05:00:18.803
All these I'm looking at my notes.
05:00:20.240 --> 05:00:22.050
We've asked for, as a county we've asked
05:00:22.050 --> 05:00:24.160
for certain things don't get shut down
05:00:24.160 --> 05:00:26.833
especially critical infrastructure,
05:00:27.990 --> 05:00:30.200
typically PG&E hasn't addressed that.
05:00:30.200 --> 05:00:35.200
I'm hoping they could answer
if that's going to improve.
05:00:37.710 --> 05:00:42.700
Also PG&E, when they place
the community resource centers,
05:00:42.700 --> 05:00:44.290
they haven't checked with the county,
05:00:44.290 --> 05:00:49.210
I'd like to see if they're
going to do that in the future
05:00:49.210 --> 05:00:53.260
and then is there a plan
for additional microgrids
05:00:53.260 --> 05:00:55.510
in rural counties?
05:00:55.510 --> 05:00:58.600
I don't know if that plan,
maybe I'm just not aware of it.
05:00:58.600 --> 05:00:59.433
Thank you.
05:01:02.130 --> 05:01:02.963
Thank you.
05:01:06.490 --> 05:01:07.490
So Good afternoon.
05:01:09.310 --> 05:01:10.230
Thanks Kathleen.
05:01:10.230 --> 05:01:11.900
Good afternoon Supervisor Teeter,
05:01:11.900 --> 05:01:13.890
thanks for the questions.
05:01:13.890 --> 05:01:15.688
I got six.
05:01:15.688 --> 05:01:16.521
I think I missed the third one,
05:01:16.521 --> 05:01:18.370
so I might need you to repeat that.
05:01:18.370 --> 05:01:21.760
The first is really on the
jail and as you highlighted
05:01:21.760 --> 05:01:24.700
that was a big focus
for us given the priority
05:01:24.700 --> 05:01:29.700
that was provided by the
community and the concerns about
05:01:30.180 --> 05:01:34.030
that in 2019 and so we
were able to rewire that so that
05:01:34.030 --> 05:01:38.700
it is largely out of
scope for PSPS events,
05:01:38.700 --> 05:01:40.617
unless there's a very
significant transmission
05:01:40.617 --> 05:01:44.280
and that there so I know we
provided some backup generation
05:01:44.280 --> 05:01:48.700
in 2019 and we'll be happy to
continue conversations offline
05:01:48.700 --> 05:01:50.940
about what additional
support might be possible
05:01:50.940 --> 05:01:53.360
for a specific backup generation there,
05:01:53.360 --> 05:01:55.710
generally we are in the business
05:01:55.710 --> 05:01:58.050
of supporting those
whose generators fail
05:01:58.050 --> 05:02:02.070
as opposed to providing
backup generating across all
05:02:02.070 --> 05:02:05.337
of the many facilities
across the service territory
05:02:05.337 --> 05:02:09.130
but we certainly can
look at individual issues.
05:02:09.130 --> 05:02:11.960
For us, in terms of
non diesel solutions,
05:02:11.960 --> 05:02:13.320
so we are looking to contract
05:02:13.320 --> 05:02:16.637
for the cleanest diesel
available this year,
05:02:16.637 --> 05:02:20.190
and we're finding a fair bit
of that in the marketplace,
05:02:20.190 --> 05:02:24.090
based on some early
soliciting that we've been doing
05:02:24.090 --> 05:02:26.010
that we're getting close to
signing some contracts on
05:02:26.010 --> 05:02:28.570
for this year but we are also looking
05:02:28.570 --> 05:02:29.950
to do a pilot this year,
05:02:29.950 --> 05:02:33.280
we'll need help from other
energy service providers
05:02:33.280 --> 05:02:36.773
to help us with what are clean
technologies that might work.
05:02:37.900 --> 05:02:41.203
And so we are
launching a pilot this year,
05:02:42.290 --> 05:02:44.000
that pilot will be in Lake County,
05:02:44.000 --> 05:02:45.840
that we'll be looking at
05:02:45.840 --> 05:02:49.720
for what sort of technologies
might be out there
05:02:49.720 --> 05:02:51.147
and so hopefully we can learn from that
05:02:51.147 --> 05:02:54.930
and from what the energy
services community can provide
05:02:54.930 --> 05:02:56.420
in that space.
05:02:56.420 --> 05:02:58.273
In terms of critical facilities,
05:02:59.150 --> 05:03:00.520
we're happy to sit down with you
05:03:00.520 --> 05:03:04.670
and obviously emergency
managers in Butte County
05:03:04.670 --> 05:03:06.510
with our local folks
to talk that through.
05:03:06.510 --> 05:03:09.710
I've been there for a
couple of those meetings
05:03:09.710 --> 05:03:12.030
and it is not always possible
05:03:12.030 --> 05:03:14.550
to electrically isolate
a critical facility
05:03:14.550 --> 05:03:16.260
but we have gone through
05:03:16.260 --> 05:03:18.980
a pretty rigorous validation process
05:03:18.980 --> 05:03:21.150
with the emergency
management team to make sure
05:03:21.150 --> 05:03:23.910
that we have identified
all the critical facilities
05:03:23.910 --> 05:03:25.120
in Butte County.
05:03:25.120 --> 05:03:26.980
Identifying them is
different than being able
05:03:26.980 --> 05:03:30.193
to necessarily exclude them.
05:03:31.539 --> 05:03:34.260
We were very pleased to
be able to work with your folks
05:03:34.260 --> 05:03:37.520
to obviously get the jail off,
05:03:37.520 --> 05:03:40.440
because it was a neighboring
circuit that is not served
05:03:40.440 --> 05:03:43.360
by a transmission line
that goes through some
05:03:43.360 --> 05:03:46.460
of the high fire threat areas
and so that was an opportunity
05:03:46.460 --> 05:03:49.440
to move a critical facility
onto another circuit
05:03:49.440 --> 05:03:52.150
that is not impacted by PSPS.
05:03:52.150 --> 05:03:53.500
So we are happy to continue
05:03:53.500 --> 05:03:55.570
to identify specific
critical facilities and see
05:03:55.570 --> 05:03:59.740
if there are similar
solutions available.
05:03:59.740 --> 05:04:02.190
In terms of community resource centers,
05:04:02.190 --> 05:04:07.190
we have worked with, again,
your emergency managers to try
05:04:07.490 --> 05:04:09.310
to develop those sites,
05:04:09.310 --> 05:04:11.990
we know that struggled with developing
05:04:11.990 --> 05:04:15.290
a good indoor facility in the
town of Paradise this year
05:04:15.290 --> 05:04:16.483
that was a challenge.
05:04:17.480 --> 05:04:19.470
Mayor Crowder brought that
up with me when I was there
05:04:19.470 --> 05:04:22.560
for the community meeting in
November and we are committed
05:04:22.560 --> 05:04:25.930
to getting the facility
across the finish line this year
05:04:25.930 --> 05:04:28.670
but we're simply challenging
with some of the ADA
05:04:28.670 --> 05:04:30.560
considerations to find a facility
05:04:30.560 --> 05:04:33.466
that met the requirements
to allow access for all,
05:04:33.466 --> 05:04:36.720
so that was a bit of a
challenge and we're committed
05:04:36.720 --> 05:04:39.360
to whatever investments are needed
05:04:39.360 --> 05:04:42.200
to help upgrade a facility to
make sure that we can get that
05:04:42.200 --> 05:04:44.050
in place for this year.
05:04:44.050 --> 05:04:47.000
You called out the
microgrid in Medallia,
05:04:47.000 --> 05:04:49.170
we're also looking at something similar
05:04:49.170 --> 05:04:50.870
in the town of Paradise,
05:04:50.870 --> 05:04:54.740
obviously, if we connect
that downtown core there
05:04:54.740 --> 05:04:59.740
with some of the already
under grounded facilities there,
05:05:03.690 --> 05:05:05.680
there's a small amount of overhead wire
05:05:05.680 --> 05:05:08.190
that we're gonna be putting
underground in advance
05:05:08.190 --> 05:05:11.990
of fire season and that will
allow us to keep a good chunk
05:05:11.990 --> 05:05:16.990
of at least the commercial
district energized there as well
05:05:18.270 --> 05:05:21.380
and certainly that's one
area that we would look at
05:05:21.380 --> 05:05:24.450
for being able to provide
backup generation
05:05:24.450 --> 05:05:27.120
as the transmission into
there is potentially impacted.
05:05:27.120 --> 05:05:30.180
So I'm happy to meet with
you offline and continue
05:05:30.180 --> 05:05:32.120
to have these conversations,
05:05:32.120 --> 05:05:34.990
I know members of our
team or continue to have
05:05:34.990 --> 05:05:37.960
that conversation with
different folks locally
05:05:37.960 --> 05:05:41.120
and we're happy to bring you
in to that conversation closer
05:05:41.120 --> 05:05:42.380
so that we can share,
05:05:42.380 --> 05:05:44.040
I'll do a better job of sharing
05:05:44.040 --> 05:05:47.540
some of the specific
measures that we're taking.
05:05:47.540 --> 05:05:48.670
When it comes to microgrids,
05:05:48.670 --> 05:05:51.810
generally, we are looking
to install very similar
05:05:51.810 --> 05:05:53.930
to what you described in Medallia.
05:05:53.930 --> 05:05:55.840
Those kinds that can provide some
05:05:55.840 --> 05:05:57.290
of those critical facilities
05:05:57.290 --> 05:06:00.887
and at this time we don't have plans
05:06:00.887 --> 05:06:02.730
for any additional ones in Butte County
05:06:02.730 --> 05:06:06.110
but we do have a longer-term
five-year plan looking
05:06:06.110 --> 05:06:09.530
at around 30 of these
across our service territory
05:06:09.530 --> 05:06:14.530
in these various sort of small
developed downtown cores
05:06:14.960 --> 05:06:18.790
of different small towns where
we can keep some semblance
05:06:18.790 --> 05:06:21.263
of normality going during a PSPS event.
05:06:22.643 --> 05:06:25.150
Thank you for the questions.
05:06:25.150 --> 05:06:26.757
You're welcome, Mr. Johnson.
05:06:26.757 --> 05:06:28.120
Thanks for the response.
05:06:28.120 --> 05:06:33.120
One addition of food for
thought on that Magalia microgrid,
05:06:34.900 --> 05:06:37.910
our fire safe council has
been really trying hard
05:06:37.910 --> 05:06:42.270
to get like a biomass plant
that could power that grid,
05:06:42.270 --> 05:06:47.270
so any thing that PG&E can
do to help reduce hazard fuels
05:06:48.370 --> 05:06:51.680
and turn it into power for
microgrids would be appreciative
05:06:51.680 --> 05:06:54.400
and I know you've had
conversations or PG&E has
05:06:55.300 --> 05:07:00.300
but others on this webinar
may not have ever heard of
05:07:00.990 --> 05:07:02.440
that kind of work, so thanks.
05:07:04.770 --> 05:07:07.150
Thanks for that input,
we'll look into that.
05:07:12.273 --> 05:07:15.460
Is here are any other questions
coming from Hopkins or?
05:07:17.070 --> 05:07:21.780
Hello, this is Steve
Crowder, can you hear me?
05:07:21.780 --> 05:07:24.190
I can hear you, hi.
05:07:24.190 --> 05:07:29.190
Hi, I have a question when,
first off I wanna thank PG&E.
05:07:33.050 --> 05:07:36.720
We've always had a
great line of communication
05:07:36.720 --> 05:07:39.393
whenever anybody from the
town has needed something,
05:07:40.300 --> 05:07:43.380
the team's been great and transparent
05:07:43.380 --> 05:07:46.287
and we may not always like the answer
05:07:46.287 --> 05:07:48.020
but at least we got the answer
05:07:48.864 --> 05:07:51.430
and I've got to thank you for that.
05:07:51.430 --> 05:07:54.433
When we had our community
meeting in November,
05:07:55.390 --> 05:07:57.090
one of the things that we had said,
05:07:57.090 --> 05:08:00.890
because all of a good part of the data
05:08:00.890 --> 05:08:04.130
for turning off our power
was predicated on winds
05:08:04.130 --> 05:08:05.573
through the Jarbo Gap.
05:08:07.107 --> 05:08:10.330
Well, that isn't necessarily
reflective to Paradise
05:08:10.330 --> 05:08:11.890
so you had talked about putting
05:08:11.890 --> 05:08:16.030
in some more monitoring
stations in Paradise.
05:08:16.030 --> 05:08:20.843
So I was wondering if you
had any kind of update on that.
05:08:23.030 --> 05:08:26.213
Yeah and just for the
general awareness of this group,
05:08:27.130 --> 05:08:29.770
I'll elaborate on
that situation slightly.
05:08:29.770 --> 05:08:34.660
So the region at which we're
looking at de-energization
05:08:34.660 --> 05:08:39.660
of PG&E is built off of an
old California fire designation
05:08:39.980 --> 05:08:41.830
called a fire index area
05:08:41.830 --> 05:08:44.300
and the fire index area that encompasses
05:08:44.300 --> 05:08:46.990
the town of Paradise also
goes down into the Jarbo Gap,
05:08:46.990 --> 05:08:49.400
which is notoriously windy area
05:08:49.400 --> 05:08:53.170
and so you can make decisions,
05:08:53.170 --> 05:08:55.930
be making decisions based
on that level of granularity
05:08:55.930 --> 05:08:58.640
of weather that might
be very windy in one area
05:08:58.640 --> 05:09:01.740
and less windy so in
the town of Paradise,
05:09:01.740 --> 05:09:05.320
and so we're looking at
desegregating that Mayor Crowder
05:09:06.576 --> 05:09:09.400
there are some electrical
challenges with that,
05:09:09.400 --> 05:09:13.280
it's not as simple as we were
discussing it there in terms
05:09:13.280 --> 05:09:16.010
of the further research
to look at our ability
05:09:16.010 --> 05:09:19.430
to both isolate that weather there
05:09:19.430 --> 05:09:21.950
but then also look at how
that weather footprint lays
05:09:21.950 --> 05:09:25.360
over with the actual electrical
systems in the sources
05:09:25.360 --> 05:09:27.470
into the town of Paradise.
05:09:27.470 --> 05:09:29.310
It starts getting a
little bit complicated
05:09:29.310 --> 05:09:32.050
but I would be happy to
commit to following up with you
05:09:32.050 --> 05:09:35.120
to help you understand
what we can do better there,
05:09:35.120 --> 05:09:37.030
we think there's a little
bit of an opportunity
05:09:37.030 --> 05:09:40.740
but it is gonna be challenging
to completely desegregate
05:09:40.740 --> 05:09:43.650
that windiness but given
where the electrical lines
05:09:43.650 --> 05:09:47.163
actually flow through
the local community.
05:09:48.840 --> 05:09:52.123
Okay, I would appreciate
that, thank you very much.
05:09:54.140 --> 05:09:54.990
You're welcome.
05:09:56.460 --> 05:10:01.460
Excellent, I actually
wanna go back,
05:10:01.550 --> 05:10:05.720
I got the microgrid and the
community service center.
05:10:05.720 --> 05:10:08.200
Can just ask the PG&E, it was
a good one and I was wondering
05:10:08.200 --> 05:10:10.300
if we could ask Edison
that same question?
05:10:15.271 --> 05:10:18.740
Thanks Stephanie, I'm gonna
tag in my colleague, Michael
05:10:18.740 --> 05:10:20.390
to answer the microgrid question.
05:10:24.900 --> 05:10:28.875
Hi, good afternoon,
this is Michael Huynh.
05:10:28.875 --> 05:10:30.960
I'm sorry, regarding microgrids.
05:10:30.960 --> 05:10:34.270
I mean, we are looking at a microgrids,
05:10:34.270 --> 05:10:36.333
potentially as pilots we do have one,
05:10:37.700 --> 05:10:41.340
looking at one in Simi
Valley that we're looking to do
05:10:41.340 --> 05:10:45.900
for a specific area there,
hopefully using clean energy
05:10:45.900 --> 05:10:48.940
as well and hope that's
to be operational in 2022
05:10:50.220 --> 05:10:52.300
prior to the peak wildfire season,
05:10:52.300 --> 05:10:54.930
but we are also working
to share more information
05:10:54.930 --> 05:10:58.230
about helping our
local tribal governments
05:10:59.140 --> 05:11:01.560
on microgrid opportunities
and building their resiliency,
05:11:01.560 --> 05:11:03.773
we actually do have a couple,
05:11:04.699 --> 05:11:07.845
we do have workshops
coming up April 6th through 8th
05:11:07.845 --> 05:11:09.520
and have invited our local
and tribal governments
05:11:09.520 --> 05:11:12.440
to attend those, but we will
be sharing more information
05:11:12.440 --> 05:11:16.280
about microgrids and definitely
encourage them to attend
05:11:17.170 --> 05:11:18.970
to hear more about that information.
05:11:20.787 --> 05:11:21.620
And the other question
05:11:21.620 --> 05:11:23.380
was about community resource centers
05:11:23.380 --> 05:11:26.520
and working with local
officials and community.
05:11:34.900 --> 05:11:36.050
Michael, did you wanna continue
05:11:36.050 --> 05:11:37.750
on the community resource centers?
05:11:38.870 --> 05:11:41.660
Oh, sorry, I didn't
hear that last question.
05:11:41.660 --> 05:11:44.560
Sorry, what was that specifically?
05:11:44.560 --> 05:11:45.723
Well, previously
they were talking about
05:11:45.723 --> 05:11:47.890
working with the local government
05:11:47.890 --> 05:11:50.410
on community resource
centers and communication
05:11:50.410 --> 05:11:53.980
and so just wanted to
ask you guys about that,
05:11:53.980 --> 05:11:55.980
that's been an issue in the past.
05:11:55.980 --> 05:11:57.600
Sorry about that,
yeah, definitely.
05:11:57.600 --> 05:12:00.620
Yeah, we definitely are working closely
05:12:00.620 --> 05:12:02.080
with our local tribal governments
05:12:02.080 --> 05:12:04.760
to identify community resource
05:12:04.760 --> 05:12:07.010
or we have worked with
them definitely last year
05:12:07.010 --> 05:12:10.680
to identify community resource centers
05:12:10.680 --> 05:12:13.070
and we'll continue to do so this year
05:12:13.070 --> 05:12:15.793
as we engage our local
and tribal governments,
05:12:17.200 --> 05:12:21.720
I know we had our
tribal workshop last week
05:12:21.720 --> 05:12:26.720
and did encourage our
tribal governments to sign up.
05:12:27.760 --> 05:12:31.500
We have about 56, I believe
community resource centers
05:12:33.837 --> 05:12:37.180
as of last year and that has
been a tremendous increase
05:12:37.180 --> 05:12:38.190
from the previous year,
05:12:38.190 --> 05:12:42.880
so we'll continue to work on identifying
05:12:43.810 --> 05:12:46.020
or working with our local governments
05:12:46.020 --> 05:12:47.920
to identify community resource centers
05:12:49.117 --> 05:12:51.533
to support customers in those areas.
05:12:54.010 --> 05:12:55.043
Okay, thank you.
05:12:59.147 --> 05:13:02.163
Any other questions from
our panelists of any of the IOU?
05:13:10.983 --> 05:13:13.723
I think we might have
some questions, Stephanie.
05:13:17.070 --> 05:13:17.903
Certainly.
05:13:21.260 --> 05:13:23.710
Aaron, I saw you raised
your hand, I wasn't sure.
05:13:25.870 --> 05:13:27.250
One question I could answer,
05:13:27.250 --> 05:13:32.250
I know Supervisor
Hopkins had to jump off,
05:13:32.460 --> 05:13:37.130
but she had concerns
about the CRC deployment
05:13:37.130 --> 05:13:40.221
in Sonoma County and so I
did wanna just address that
05:13:40.221 --> 05:13:41.610
before I enter the the group.
05:13:41.610 --> 05:13:43.850
We do have four events ready,
05:13:43.850 --> 05:13:46.600
indoor sites in Sonoma
County and nine outdoor sites,
05:13:46.600 --> 05:13:49.100
so we think we've worked pretty well
05:13:49.100 --> 05:13:50.600
with emergency management locally
05:13:50.600 --> 05:13:54.070
to develop a good portfolio of sites,
05:13:54.070 --> 05:13:55.700
we did have a lot of
challenges this year,
05:13:55.700 --> 05:13:59.540
we were trying to use all
the libraries in the county
05:13:59.540 --> 05:14:02.500
and there were COVID
considerations there
05:14:02.500 --> 05:14:04.140
that ultimately prevented us
05:14:04.140 --> 05:14:05.560
from getting across the finish line.
05:14:05.560 --> 05:14:08.420
So we had to pivot
very late in the season
05:14:08.420 --> 05:14:09.830
away from the libraries
05:14:09.830 --> 05:14:12.140
and when we couldn't
get those events ready
05:14:12.140 --> 05:14:16.060
and we couldn't reach
a mutual commitment
05:14:16.060 --> 05:14:18.890
to prioritize the libraries for CRCs,
05:14:18.890 --> 05:14:20.410
given other considerations
in the county,
05:14:20.410 --> 05:14:22.170
which is understandable
at the time of COVID,
05:14:22.170 --> 05:14:24.100
so understand that there may have been
05:14:24.100 --> 05:14:25.197
some frustration there
05:14:25.197 --> 05:14:27.100
and we feel like we
have a good portfolio now,
05:14:27.100 --> 05:14:29.020
but we will follow up
with the supervisor
05:14:29.020 --> 05:14:32.470
to make sure in particular, if
there are low-income areas
05:14:32.470 --> 05:14:36.270
that she called out or gaps
in that network of CRCs
05:14:36.270 --> 05:14:39.950
that we addressed those, so
I did just wanna speak to that
05:14:39.950 --> 05:14:42.780
even though she's not on,
we'll follow up with her directly.
05:14:42.780 --> 05:14:43.880
Thank you.
Perfect.
05:14:44.970 --> 05:14:46.680
And I know we're getting short on time,
05:14:46.680 --> 05:14:48.470
so I wanted to allow the Commissioners
05:14:48.470 --> 05:14:50.420
a couple of questions if they had any,
05:14:50.420 --> 05:14:51.840
but I also thought maybe
05:14:51.840 --> 05:14:53.810
right before we go to the Commissioners,
05:14:53.810 --> 05:14:56.820
if each of the panels
wanna just identify,
05:14:56.820 --> 05:15:01.490
is there one thing you would
ask the IOUs for improvement?
05:15:01.490 --> 05:15:04.650
What one thing could they do
to improve things going forward
05:15:04.650 --> 05:15:08.140
that would be of help to you,
beneficial to your community?
05:15:08.140 --> 05:15:10.422
Maybe we could just rapid fire those,
05:15:10.422 --> 05:15:14.430
give everybody a chance to
answer that one quick question,
05:15:14.430 --> 05:15:17.393
and I'll go, Mr. York.
05:15:18.650 --> 05:15:22.133
Yeah, sure, I don't think
San Diego Gas and Electric,
05:15:23.347 --> 05:15:25.300
so one of the things that's working
05:15:25.300 --> 05:15:27.760
in community organizations
kind of doing that,
05:15:27.760 --> 05:15:30.240
working with that
network of social services
05:15:30.240 --> 05:15:33.140
that are helping to
provide the lift with SDG&E,
05:15:34.194 --> 05:15:36.460
this is a request, again,
we've gone through them
05:15:36.460 --> 05:15:38.830
as well as we're looking
at other state entities
05:15:38.830 --> 05:15:41.730
is, we have a fairly
sophisticated infrastructure
05:15:41.730 --> 05:15:43.160
of community resources here,
05:15:43.160 --> 05:15:44.620
our community of information exchange,
05:15:44.620 --> 05:15:49.160
which we run is actually a
technology created network
05:15:50.513 --> 05:15:52.800
of clients consenting
in to share information
05:15:52.800 --> 05:15:54.540
around different
services that they received
05:15:54.540 --> 05:15:56.920
and so there's over a
hundred organizations
05:15:56.920 --> 05:15:58.640
that share that data,
05:15:58.640 --> 05:16:00.760
if you imagine the
electronic health record
05:16:00.760 --> 05:16:04.800
that your systems are
managed care is your specialist,
05:16:04.800 --> 05:16:07.780
your primary care, your
pharmacist, all connected,
05:16:07.780 --> 05:16:09.310
we've done that in San Diego
05:16:09.310 --> 05:16:12.850
and that we've seen the
benefits of around PSPS
05:16:12.850 --> 05:16:15.550
and working with SDG&E
the AFN population
05:16:15.550 --> 05:16:17.120
that we've been able to glean.
05:16:17.120 --> 05:16:20.473
I think, getting more data sharing,
05:16:21.625 --> 05:16:23.580
and understanding
the consent that clients
05:16:23.580 --> 05:16:26.203
allow themselves to because
they wanna receive services,
05:16:26.203 --> 05:16:28.220
they're more coordinated services
05:16:29.696 --> 05:16:31.530
and information specifically
the AFN population,
05:16:31.530 --> 05:16:35.990
so I don't think it's just
an SDG&E question,
05:16:35.990 --> 05:16:39.430
it is around that data
share, freeing those up,
05:16:39.430 --> 05:16:43.020
all within HIPAA, all
of those compliance,
05:16:43.020 --> 05:16:45.960
privacy and security that you
can imagine we must follow
05:16:45.960 --> 05:16:49.130
since we're linked to a
lot of healthcare records
05:16:49.130 --> 05:16:51.890
that I think that
transparency and again,
05:16:51.890 --> 05:16:55.440
putting the client's information
at the hand of the client,
05:16:55.440 --> 05:17:00.130
that whether it's a customer
of the IOU or a client to us,
05:17:00.130 --> 05:17:03.970
we can do better coordination
and navigation specifically
05:17:03.970 --> 05:17:07.350
around PSPS and AFN,
so from our perspective,
05:17:07.350 --> 05:17:08.470
that would be a huge lift
05:17:08.470 --> 05:17:11.520
and we'd be able to
proactively work in partnership
05:17:11.520 --> 05:17:16.520
with all of the program that
we have here in San Diego.
05:17:16.854 --> 05:17:20.699
Perfect, Mr. Stockman,
anything you'd like to know
05:17:20.699 --> 05:17:24.463
that it would be helpful
for the tribal communities
05:17:24.463 --> 05:17:27.040
of any of the IOUs or all of the IOUs?
05:17:27.040 --> 05:17:31.100
Sure, probably just
keeping it simple and in line
05:17:31.100 --> 05:17:36.100
with my previous comments,
PG&E, please continue to engage
05:17:36.210 --> 05:17:39.180
with your tribal and rural partners
05:17:39.180 --> 05:17:44.180
as we remain flexible with PSPS
and continue to communicate.
05:17:44.980 --> 05:17:47.160
I would say places where we can continue
05:17:47.160 --> 05:17:51.823
to improve would be microgrids,
05:17:52.950 --> 05:17:57.360
ways to look at power
generation like solar and battery,
05:17:57.360 --> 05:18:00.630
so that we can make sure
that our elder community
05:18:00.630 --> 05:18:05.630
and our low-income
communities are able to last
05:18:06.160 --> 05:18:11.160
through a longer kind of PSPS
would be my comments on that.
05:18:11.380 --> 05:18:16.380
And then for PacifiCorp, I
would say, invest in this process
05:18:16.910 --> 05:18:19.163
with tribes and with rural communities.
05:18:20.640 --> 05:18:25.640
This is extremely important
for not just our communities
05:18:26.880 --> 05:18:31.220
in terms of their safety
and public safety,
05:18:31.220 --> 05:18:35.457
but also tribal governments
have a very unique view
05:18:36.300 --> 05:18:40.580
and local knowledge
and skillset to assist you
05:18:41.550 --> 05:18:44.313
in this kind of communication,
so take advantage of it.
05:18:46.151 --> 05:18:48.318
Thank you, Mr Hargovian?
05:18:49.860 --> 05:18:52.169
Sure, yeah, thank
you, Stephanie.
05:18:52.169 --> 05:18:55.450
It's honestly very simple,
immediate investment
05:18:55.450 --> 05:18:58.130
and implementation of grid hardening
05:18:58.130 --> 05:19:00.963
to the hardest hit circuits, that's it.
05:19:02.355 --> 05:19:03.190
(laughter)
05:19:03.190 --> 05:19:05.210
Perfect, wow I
couldn't have said that
05:19:05.210 --> 05:19:07.950
in such a fashion ,Mayor Keith Mashburn
05:19:10.100 --> 05:19:14.580
Yes, thank you, I think
what I'd be asking for
05:19:14.580 --> 05:19:19.580
is very accurate event communications,
05:19:20.320 --> 05:19:24.120
I think that's been one
of the biggest problems
05:19:24.120 --> 05:19:28.140
and frustrations of our constituency
05:19:28.140 --> 05:19:32.303
is the information that
they're able to obtain from SCE
05:19:33.200 --> 05:19:35.823
has not been accurate and timely.
05:19:36.840 --> 05:19:40.600
And I know that's a
hard thing to ask for
05:19:40.600 --> 05:19:42.610
in a specific event
05:19:42.610 --> 05:19:46.910
but that's certainly one
of the biggest complaints.
05:19:46.910 --> 05:19:50.770
Other than that, I think a timeline
05:19:50.770 --> 05:19:52.820
for the hardening of the circuits,
05:19:52.820 --> 05:19:57.820
and so if that was brought
to the city staff or the council,
05:19:59.360 --> 05:20:02.500
so we can share the
information at least,
05:20:02.500 --> 05:20:05.190
even if it's not 100% on target,
05:20:05.190 --> 05:20:08.520
but be able to give
some estimates of timing
05:20:08.520 --> 05:20:11.500
and because of the
hardening of the circuits
05:20:11.500 --> 05:20:16.440
is what's gonna drop the PSPS
events that affect everybody.
05:20:16.440 --> 05:20:20.450
So that information,
better communications
05:20:20.450 --> 05:20:25.450
between SCE and the city staff
05:20:25.970 --> 05:20:28.733
and of course, during the actual event,
05:20:30.030 --> 05:20:31.840
the communication that's put out
05:20:31.840 --> 05:20:35.570
to the residents needs to be accurate.
05:20:35.570 --> 05:20:38.710
And that would certainly
fix a lot of issues,
05:20:38.710 --> 05:20:42.413
so it's certainly not
affixal, but it's a great start.
05:20:43.660 --> 05:20:44.813
Thank you for that.
05:20:45.740 --> 05:20:49.103
Mayor Crowder, anything
you'd wanna note?
05:20:52.010 --> 05:20:53.983
Okay, Supervisor Teeter?
05:20:59.700 --> 05:21:01.653
And supervisor Hopkins?
05:21:04.520 --> 05:21:08.240
Well, those are some closing thoughts,
05:21:08.240 --> 05:21:10.770
I'd like to turn it over to see
if any of the Commissioners
05:21:10.770 --> 05:21:13.160
would have anything they'd like to ask
05:21:13.160 --> 05:21:14.830
any of the panelists or the IOUs.
05:21:17.840 --> 05:21:22.840
Yes, Stephanie, I have a
quick question if I may go first.
05:21:24.690 --> 05:21:27.180
This is all of the IOUs,
05:21:27.180 --> 05:21:30.770
last year at this time
we were already planning
05:21:30.770 --> 05:21:34.530
to have table top exercises
and actual exercises
05:21:34.530 --> 05:21:36.950
I think we only heard
of one being planned,
05:21:36.950 --> 05:21:41.950
nope, one IOU planning
exercises for June,
05:21:42.640 --> 05:21:45.420
I believe it was June, I may
have written that down wrong,
05:21:45.420 --> 05:21:49.050
but the three major IOUs
all had exercises last year,
05:21:49.050 --> 05:21:52.400
I think SDG&E's was
pretty late, frankly,
05:21:52.400 --> 05:21:55.410
but they had them and I think
they were very worthwhile,
05:21:55.410 --> 05:21:57.200
I know there are a
lot of work to put on,
05:21:57.200 --> 05:21:58.420
but they're very beneficial
05:21:58.420 --> 05:22:03.420
and they frankly could save
lives, so I'd like to know if,
05:22:03.740 --> 05:22:06.550
and if you don't have a
representative on the line still
05:22:06.550 --> 05:22:11.130
that can tell us about
your planning for exercises
05:22:11.130 --> 05:22:13.750
if you could please
get back to us on that
05:22:13.750 --> 05:22:17.540
and if they're actual
exercises or their tabletops,
05:22:17.540 --> 05:22:22.470
so I would like to ask that
rapid fire of the three IOUs.
05:22:25.460 --> 05:22:27.300
This is Todd from Pacific Power
05:22:27.300 --> 05:22:30.450
and I can answer that we
did have a tabletop exercise
05:22:30.450 --> 05:22:33.890
on June 3rd in week, California.
05:22:33.890 --> 05:22:38.890
It was both attended and
virtual, was able to come in.
05:22:40.390 --> 05:22:45.367
We also held a virtual meeting
to the community on May 27th
05:22:46.400 --> 05:22:47.410
and we are planning
05:22:47.410 --> 05:22:50.593
to do both of those
things again in 2021.
05:22:52.350 --> 05:22:54.253
Okay, are they Todd,
05:22:56.480 --> 05:22:58.750
I'm not talking about
virtual meetings or meetings,
05:22:58.750 --> 05:23:01.980
I'm really talking about
an actual exercise tabletop
05:23:01.980 --> 05:23:04.795
where you have the emergency management,
05:23:04.795 --> 05:23:06.340
and you have tribal
governments represented,
05:23:06.340 --> 05:23:08.570
you have counties
governments represented,
05:23:08.570 --> 05:23:11.580
you have your operational people there
05:23:11.580 --> 05:23:13.170
and you run through it.
05:23:13.170 --> 05:23:15.800
Yes, we had a tabletop exercise
05:23:15.800 --> 05:23:19.400
and we now some chose to talk in virtual
05:23:19.400 --> 05:23:23.230
because of the COVID
situations and their own safeties,
05:23:23.230 --> 05:23:25.150
but we had representation
05:23:26.746 --> 05:23:29.847
working with the County
Emergency Management and so yes.
05:23:32.050 --> 05:23:35.540
Okay, we'd like to know
more, so that gets planned.
05:23:35.540 --> 05:23:36.390
Thank you, yes.
05:23:41.200 --> 05:23:42.240
And President Batjer,
05:23:42.240 --> 05:23:45.350
this is Jennifer Summers with SDG&E,
05:23:45.350 --> 05:23:47.440
we do have a tabletop exercise
05:23:47.440 --> 05:23:50.270
that we'll be holding in June.
05:23:50.270 --> 05:23:52.480
Final date has not been determined yet,
05:23:52.480 --> 05:23:53.560
but it will happen in June
05:23:53.560 --> 05:23:57.350
and we've already met with
all of our emergency managers,
05:23:57.350 --> 05:24:00.000
both our local governments
and our tribal governments
05:24:00.860 --> 05:24:04.023
within the last two months
to start coordination.
05:24:05.370 --> 05:24:06.393
Okay, thank you.
05:24:08.625 --> 05:24:10.820
And this is Aaron
Johnson with PG&E.
05:24:10.820 --> 05:24:13.010
President Batjer we will be having
05:24:13.010 --> 05:24:16.830
to meet discuss this morning
two full-scale exercises
05:24:16.830 --> 05:24:19.440
scheduled in the South
and Central for May
05:24:19.440 --> 05:24:21.980
and the North in July
05:24:22.840 --> 05:24:26.700
and each of which will
be proceeded by a tabletop
05:24:26.700 --> 05:24:28.600
and those will be full-scale exercises
05:24:29.811 --> 05:24:32.011
and will be proceeded
by a one day tabletop,
05:24:33.350 --> 05:24:35.483
approximately a month prior to that.
05:24:36.751 --> 05:24:38.060
It may be closer to
several weeks before that
05:24:38.060 --> 05:24:40.380
just to make sure everybody is ready
05:24:40.380 --> 05:24:41.820
for the full-scale exercise,
05:24:41.820 --> 05:24:44.760
we are in particular looking
at the full scale exercise
05:24:44.760 --> 05:24:48.430
as they are five days to
run an event in real time,
05:24:48.430 --> 05:24:50.480
all through that is, we've
gotten a lot of feedback
05:24:50.480 --> 05:24:53.497
that's a lot of commitment
from some of the local partners
05:24:53.497 --> 05:24:55.880
and so we are designing that process
05:24:55.880 --> 05:24:58.940
so that they can
participate in pieces of that
05:24:58.940 --> 05:25:01.810
a little more successfully
that are more relevant
05:25:01.810 --> 05:25:03.797
to a lot of our local partners
05:25:03.797 --> 05:25:06.763
and so we're working through
the details on that currently.
05:25:08.150 --> 05:25:11.420
Thank you, that's helpful
and those details, you're right,
05:25:11.420 --> 05:25:12.710
five days was a big commitment,
05:25:12.710 --> 05:25:15.100
but the details are important too.
05:25:15.100 --> 05:25:18.430
And I'm hopeful that PG&E can share
05:25:18.430 --> 05:25:23.010
how you're going about this
with Edison as well as SDG&E
05:25:24.830 --> 05:25:27.592
and I don't mean to
leave out PacifiCorp,
05:25:27.592 --> 05:25:28.425
because I think we've heard today
05:25:28.425 --> 05:25:31.480
that you all have some
really strong liaisoning
05:25:31.480 --> 05:25:33.900
that you need to do and
planning that you need to do
05:25:33.900 --> 05:25:37.230
for duly with the tribes but I dare say
05:25:37.230 --> 05:25:38.480
probably with the accounts
05:25:38.480 --> 05:25:40.690
that are in your service area as well.
05:25:40.690 --> 05:25:42.680
I just wanna underscore that,
05:25:42.680 --> 05:25:44.540
I think you needed to step it up
05:25:44.540 --> 05:25:47.870
and I hope you've learned
some things from this conversation
05:25:47.870 --> 05:25:52.000
from the other IOUs and
some of the lessons learned
05:25:52.000 --> 05:25:57.000
that they have incorporated
into their new plans
05:25:57.000 --> 05:26:01.990
for both last year,
2020 as well as in 2021.
05:26:01.990 --> 05:26:04.400
Okay, Stephanie,
I'll turn it over to my--
05:26:04.400 --> 05:26:06.543
Oh, sorry, President Batjer,
05:26:06.543 --> 05:26:07.693
this is for Southern California Edison,
05:26:07.693 --> 05:26:10.363
just also wanted to chime
in on our exercise as well,
05:26:11.310 --> 05:26:14.690
so we are planning
ours for April 27th, 28th,
05:26:14.690 --> 05:26:17.720
and definitely we'll be inviting
our public safety partners
05:26:17.720 --> 05:26:20.140
and encouraging them to participate
05:26:20.140 --> 05:26:22.100
as well as emergency measures.
05:26:22.100 --> 05:26:25.140
Thank you, I appreciate
that, sorry that I skipped over.
05:26:25.140 --> 05:26:28.323
Okay, appreciate that, very
good, and keep us informed.
05:26:31.330 --> 05:26:32.163
Thank you.
05:26:33.340 --> 05:26:34.360
Thank you President Batjer,
05:26:34.360 --> 05:26:37.735
any of the other Commissioners,
do you have any questions
05:26:37.735 --> 05:26:39.313
for the IOUs or our panelists?
05:26:45.920 --> 05:26:49.544
Stephanie I can go, this is
Commissioner Guzman Acevez,
05:26:49.544 --> 05:26:51.580
I just wanted to thank everyone
05:26:51.580 --> 05:26:53.040
for their thoughtfulness here.
05:26:53.040 --> 05:26:56.530
One of the maybe common
threads that came through
05:26:56.530 --> 05:26:58.530
was this question of transparency
05:26:58.530 --> 05:27:01.140
on progress of hardening work.
05:27:01.140 --> 05:27:06.140
And the question to the
utilities is how to do that
05:27:06.920 --> 05:27:11.920
in a way that's continuous
and what is that forum
05:27:13.840 --> 05:27:16.580
and potentially, is it the portal itself
05:27:16.580 --> 05:27:21.580
where you can incorporate
something understandable
05:27:21.910 --> 05:27:26.150
for the local leadership
and the public even,
05:27:26.150 --> 05:27:29.950
potentially even mapping of
the progress on the hardening?
05:27:29.950 --> 05:27:33.710
What's the best vehicle for that?
05:27:33.710 --> 05:27:36.490
I know some of these folks individually
05:27:36.490 --> 05:27:40.140
about certain communities
and some of the ambitious goals
05:27:40.140 --> 05:27:45.140
that will benefit some
of them but it sounds like,
05:27:45.492 --> 05:27:46.750
you know, this is obviously something
05:27:46.750 --> 05:27:50.580
that will be needed continuously,
05:27:50.580 --> 05:27:55.580
so is that the best venue or
vehicle for that communication
05:27:55.670 --> 05:27:59.250
or do you have other thoughts,
but it seems like the portal
05:27:59.250 --> 05:28:02.020
is the most obvious vehicle to use
05:28:02.020 --> 05:28:04.293
to keep that information updated.
05:28:07.460 --> 05:28:09.033
And Commissioner Guzman Acevez,
05:28:09.033 --> 05:28:11.720
this is Jennifer Summers with SDG&E.
05:28:11.720 --> 05:28:15.060
The portal that you're discussing
would be a great resource
05:28:15.060 --> 05:28:18.050
and my understanding is
that that portal is being created
05:28:18.050 --> 05:28:21.460
as part of the microgrid
OAR with resiliency
05:28:21.460 --> 05:28:23.460
for our local and tribal government.
05:28:23.460 --> 05:28:27.190
Another resource that we
found to be incredibly effective
05:28:27.190 --> 05:28:30.440
is quarterly meetings, we
have a number of meetings
05:28:30.440 --> 05:28:31.810
to discuss all the projects
05:28:31.810 --> 05:28:34.150
that impact our local jurisdictions,
05:28:34.150 --> 05:28:37.620
so for example, we would meet
with the County of San Diego,
05:28:37.620 --> 05:28:40.280
different levels within the county,
05:28:40.280 --> 05:28:43.030
whether it's public works,
planning department
05:28:44.351 --> 05:28:46.450
and we bring our project
managers to those meetings
05:28:46.450 --> 05:28:48.130
and have those discussions,
05:28:48.130 --> 05:28:52.360
I mean, I will go out and
brief our tribal leaders
05:28:52.360 --> 05:28:54.605
on projects that are directly impacting
05:28:54.605 --> 05:28:57.380
and near the reservations as well,
05:28:57.380 --> 05:28:59.530
so that's been a really effective tool
05:29:00.670 --> 05:29:02.987
to be layered, I think
on top of that portal,
05:29:02.987 --> 05:29:04.760
because the portal can
provide the information
05:29:04.760 --> 05:29:07.130
and then those quarterly
meetings and regular meetings
05:29:07.130 --> 05:29:10.013
can explain it and answer questions.
05:29:11.660 --> 05:29:13.730
And Jennifer, do
you currently include
05:29:13.730 --> 05:29:17.510
the progress on hardening
as either part of your meetings
05:29:17.510 --> 05:29:18.793
or in the portal itself?
05:29:20.270 --> 05:29:22.410
I don't know about
the portal itself,
05:29:22.410 --> 05:29:24.560
what Ben scoped out within that,
05:29:24.560 --> 05:29:26.990
but we do discuss that
in our quarterly meetings
05:29:26.990 --> 05:29:28.840
and when we meet with our governments
05:29:30.660 --> 05:29:33.190
And maybe that's
something, that's really great,
05:29:33.190 --> 05:29:36.420
I wonder if that's replicable
for the other utilities
05:29:36.420 --> 05:29:39.480
that have a larger footprint,
05:29:39.480 --> 05:29:41.610
I finally think that's a great model
05:29:41.610 --> 05:29:43.810
to meet quarterly with
the local government.
05:29:45.636 --> 05:29:47.286
Commissioner Guzman, I'm sorry.
05:29:50.140 --> 05:29:53.491
This is Larry Chung for a
Southern California Edison
05:29:53.491 --> 05:29:55.510
and I did wanna share that we also,
05:29:55.510 --> 05:29:57.830
certainly during our individual meetings
05:29:57.830 --> 05:30:00.410
with our cities and counties
and our direct engagement,
05:30:00.410 --> 05:30:03.860
we share our grid hardening
information with them
05:30:04.740 --> 05:30:09.740
and we also are looking at
sort of meeting our customers
05:30:10.160 --> 05:30:12.080
where they are in terms
of information sharing
05:30:12.080 --> 05:30:14.560
and so we've seen a
lot of engagement online,
05:30:14.560 --> 05:30:16.990
so we're looking at how do we,
05:30:16.990 --> 05:30:18.720
can we put that on our websites
05:30:18.720 --> 05:30:23.060
so that folks can access
that information in real time,
05:30:23.060 --> 05:30:26.040
we also share it online, excuse me,
05:30:26.040 --> 05:30:28.823
online currently with our counties.
05:30:30.650 --> 05:30:34.270
So we also have it in
our community meetings,
05:30:34.270 --> 05:30:37.857
we're sharing that
data actively with them,
05:30:37.857 --> 05:30:41.430
and as I mentioned, we have
at least 10 more scheduled
05:30:41.430 --> 05:30:42.680
for the rest of the year,
05:30:42.680 --> 05:30:47.680
we've also met with 12 out of
13 of our OAS county offices
05:30:48.190 --> 05:30:51.370
and so we are sharing
that information in real time
05:30:51.370 --> 05:30:52.950
and we'll continue to do that,
05:30:52.950 --> 05:30:55.110
but again, in terms
of, I think your question
05:30:55.110 --> 05:30:57.450
was specifically something
new that we could do,
05:30:57.450 --> 05:31:00.550
we are looking at posting
that information on our website
05:31:00.550 --> 05:31:02.310
so that the public can view that
05:31:02.310 --> 05:31:05.480
and I think to Mayor
happens point earlier,
05:31:05.480 --> 05:31:09.690
having that type of data,
having that information I think,
05:31:09.690 --> 05:31:10.850
would better serve everybody,
05:31:10.850 --> 05:31:13.450
so that's what we're
looking at currently at Edison.
05:31:14.820 --> 05:31:17.040
Larry, this is Maribel,
05:31:17.040 --> 05:31:21.700
just to follow up if I
may on the answer,
05:31:21.700 --> 05:31:24.570
it does concern me to
have already been meeting
05:31:24.570 --> 05:31:27.520
with the counties
that some of the cities
05:31:27.520 --> 05:31:30.380
that where Mayor Mashburn
05:31:30.380 --> 05:31:35.063
and the manager,
assistant manager, Hagobian
05:31:36.460 --> 05:31:39.430
both did not realize or did not know
05:31:39.430 --> 05:31:41.260
what circuits you had hardened,
05:31:41.260 --> 05:31:43.990
and we've heard that
there are nine circuits
05:31:43.990 --> 05:31:48.930
that have been identified and
four more are the hardest hits
05:31:48.930 --> 05:31:51.430
that you're gonna go in
and harden this four this year
05:31:51.430 --> 05:31:53.150
as well as fire season,
05:31:53.150 --> 05:31:54.880
that would be very important information
05:31:54.880 --> 05:31:57.920
to start underscoring with
folks so they can get it out,
05:31:57.920 --> 05:32:00.820
as the mayor said, and
the city manager said,
05:32:00.820 --> 05:32:02.870
to then get it out
to their constituents.
05:32:03.760 --> 05:32:05.850
Very important,
obviously for Simi Valley,
05:32:05.850 --> 05:32:08.330
because of them being an urban area,
05:32:08.330 --> 05:32:10.280
where people have a
great misunderstanding
05:32:10.280 --> 05:32:12.000
as to why their power is going up
05:32:12.000 --> 05:32:14.350
when there's no fire even near them.
05:32:14.350 --> 05:32:16.363
So at any way, I just underscored that.
05:32:17.500 --> 05:32:19.100
Absolutely, I
appreciate the feedback,
05:32:19.100 --> 05:32:23.775
thank you very much President Batjer.
05:32:23.775 --> 05:32:25.380
I apologize, I
would just like to add,
05:32:25.380 --> 05:32:27.620
we do the quarterly meetings also
05:32:27.620 --> 05:32:30.900
and with the governmental
officials invited
05:32:30.900 --> 05:32:35.900
and this past meeting we had in March
05:32:36.120 --> 05:32:37.850
we went through details
05:32:37.850 --> 05:32:40.000
of the hardening we're
doing in our system.
05:32:41.490 --> 05:32:42.660
I'm sorry, Mr. Andra.
05:32:42.660 --> 05:32:45.040
So when you say you
have quarterly meetings
05:32:45.040 --> 05:32:48.550
with local governments,
obviously we've learned today
05:32:48.550 --> 05:32:50.550
that doesn't include tribal governments.
05:32:52.590 --> 05:32:54.840
The tribes was
represented at this meeting.
05:32:55.880 --> 05:32:57.750
Okay, so you have
quarterly meetings
05:32:57.750 --> 05:33:02.750
with a group of
governments or individuals.
05:33:02.750 --> 05:33:07.653
With supervisors,
with city manager,
05:33:09.360 --> 05:33:12.003
also university, colleges,
05:33:12.920 --> 05:33:17.920
large industrial users, a
wide variety of individuals
05:33:18.100 --> 05:33:21.930
and we discussed the
hardening and to make sure
05:33:21.930 --> 05:33:26.770
that these information
gets out to the public also.
05:33:26.770 --> 05:33:30.033
We invite the assistant
fire council, Eric
05:33:30.033 --> 05:33:31.913
to come to the meeting also.
05:33:33.380 --> 05:33:34.327
And I should remember this,
05:33:34.327 --> 05:33:36.807
but are you also required
to have a server portal
05:33:36.807 --> 05:33:38.963
or was that just too large?
05:33:41.550 --> 05:33:43.823
I apologize, I
couldn't answer that.
05:33:45.171 --> 05:33:46.320
No, it's okay.
05:33:46.320 --> 05:33:49.054
All right well, it seems
to be a useful tool
05:33:49.054 --> 05:33:52.240
and maybe you can
consider it if it's not required.
05:33:52.240 --> 05:33:53.087
Okay, so PG&E
05:33:54.433 --> 05:33:57.130
Yeah, we do have, I
should correct myself.
05:33:57.130 --> 05:33:59.980
We do have information on our website
05:33:59.980 --> 05:34:01.600
which is dedicated to PSPS
05:34:04.820 --> 05:34:06.900
and we do have a wildfire advisory board
05:34:08.560 --> 05:34:09.710
that we're speaking of.
05:34:12.620 --> 05:34:14.940
Yeah, the part of a
little more in-depth in that,
05:34:14.940 --> 05:34:17.450
but we can move on to PG&E.
05:34:20.964 --> 05:34:22.700
Thank you, Commissioner
for the question,
05:34:22.700 --> 05:34:27.190
so a lot of similar answers
to what you're hearing
05:34:27.190 --> 05:34:28.593
from the other IOUs,
05:34:29.664 --> 05:34:33.640
we sort of do a pre wildfire
season kickoff meeting
05:34:33.640 --> 05:34:35.590
with a large group of stakeholders
05:34:36.750 --> 05:34:38.410
like Mr. Anders was describing
05:34:39.370 --> 05:34:41.640
and we usually do that in the spring,
05:34:41.640 --> 05:34:43.390
that's what some of you
mentioned this morning
05:34:43.390 --> 05:34:45.350
that we're getting ready to launch
05:34:45.350 --> 05:34:47.430
and we're just now
starting to schedule those
05:34:47.430 --> 05:34:50.000
for the month of April,
so we'll be doing that
05:34:50.000 --> 05:34:51.050
over a several month period
05:34:51.050 --> 05:34:53.870
and we do that on a county jurisdiction,
05:34:53.870 --> 05:34:56.340
but it involves local, tribal
and county government,
05:34:56.340 --> 05:34:58.460
we do it on a county geographic area.
05:34:58.460 --> 05:35:02.730
That's where we invite folks
in to hear about local work
05:35:02.730 --> 05:35:05.280
that's planned, provide
transparency on that
05:35:05.280 --> 05:35:07.503
as part of our wildfire
mitigation plan we,
05:35:08.521 --> 05:35:10.540
and I think some of the
requirements from the Commission,
05:35:10.540 --> 05:35:12.470
we do provide quarterly updates
05:35:12.470 --> 05:35:16.170
on the progress of that
to all of our customers
05:35:16.170 --> 05:35:18.433
as well as obviously local officials.
05:35:19.290 --> 05:35:21.390
The portal is one place
we can do that, I think,
05:35:21.390 --> 05:35:23.350
for the general public,
05:35:23.350 --> 05:35:25.610
we share more technical
information in the portal
05:35:25.610 --> 05:35:28.870
with county emergency
management in particular,
05:35:28.870 --> 05:35:33.443
we have been looking at
whether we would create
05:35:35.210 --> 05:35:37.790
some sort of online tool
that can help customers
05:35:37.790 --> 05:35:39.260
with that visualization process
05:35:39.260 --> 05:35:42.710
that may work a little bit
better for the general public,
05:35:42.710 --> 05:35:46.320
both about PSPS likelihood
and where work is being done
05:35:46.320 --> 05:35:49.680
on our systems specifically
on specific circuits,
05:35:49.680 --> 05:35:54.310
so we're in the process of
rolling out that tool this year
05:35:54.310 --> 05:35:58.470
with some of the specific
details will probably come next
05:35:58.470 --> 05:36:00.580
as we integrate more
and more into that tool
05:36:00.580 --> 05:36:03.180
and we get customer feedback
on what works for them.
05:36:05.130 --> 05:36:09.360
Thank you, really good comments
05:36:09.360 --> 05:36:11.330
that many of our local government,
05:36:11.330 --> 05:36:14.630
tribal government leadership
is calling on all of us
05:36:14.630 --> 05:36:17.860
that we need to help
the public understand
05:36:17.860 --> 05:36:19.840
where we are in the progress.
05:36:19.840 --> 05:36:22.630
And I think what I'm hearing anyway
05:36:22.630 --> 05:36:26.200
is some of these macro
numbers aren't doing it,
05:36:26.200 --> 05:36:29.960
they wanna know where their
individual circuits are in line
05:36:29.960 --> 05:36:34.820
and how it impacts their
future PSPS likelihood,
05:36:34.820 --> 05:36:36.810
so I think that's the challenge
05:36:36.810 --> 05:36:38.820
and the next iteration of communication
05:36:39.770 --> 05:36:43.223
and it's something that will
be continuous, thank you.
05:36:52.900 --> 05:36:55.790
This is Cliff Rechtschaffen
and I had one comment
05:36:55.790 --> 05:37:00.510
and then general comments
and specific ones for Aaron.
05:37:00.510 --> 05:37:04.945
I think we heard from Supervisor
Teeter, Mayor Mashburn
05:37:04.945 --> 05:37:08.967
and Supervisor Hopkins about
the importance of the utilities
05:37:10.620 --> 05:37:13.650
trying to defray some
of the costs of PSPS
05:37:13.650 --> 05:37:16.070
and provide solutions or mitigation
05:37:16.070 --> 05:37:17.853
for critical infrastructure.
05:37:19.280 --> 05:37:20.440
I know that's a theme
05:37:20.440 --> 05:37:25.170
that's informing the
investments of the utilities,
05:37:25.170 --> 05:37:26.620
I think it's very important
05:37:26.620 --> 05:37:31.620
that you continue to
focus on those efforts.
05:37:31.890 --> 05:37:34.690
Aaron, Supervisor Hopkins
05:37:34.690 --> 05:37:37.930
specifically called out
the small water systems
05:37:37.930 --> 05:37:39.250
that don't have backup power
05:37:39.250 --> 05:37:42.170
and she said the local
governments in Sonoma County
05:37:42.170 --> 05:37:44.370
had been left to pick up the tab
05:37:44.370 --> 05:37:46.540
for most of the costs of the PSPSs,
05:37:46.540 --> 05:37:48.010
so when you circle back with her,
05:37:48.010 --> 05:37:49.563
as I know you said you would,
05:37:50.850 --> 05:37:53.440
if you could follow up
on some of the measures
05:37:53.440 --> 05:37:57.677
that PG&E's taking to address
the concerns that she raised,
05:37:57.677 --> 05:38:00.840
and I see that Aaron just
said that a note in the chat
05:38:00.840 --> 05:38:04.060
that he's lost audio, so you can respond
05:38:04.060 --> 05:38:06.870
when you able to join us or just respond
05:38:06.870 --> 05:38:09.263
after the session is over.
05:38:20.000 --> 05:38:21.260
Was there any other questions
05:38:21.260 --> 05:38:22.760
from any of the Commissioners?
05:38:25.758 --> 05:38:28.563
I know it's getting late in the day.
05:38:28.563 --> 05:38:31.477
Commissioner Hawk has
her hand up, Commissioner?
05:38:31.477 --> 05:38:33.580
That's a follow up on,
05:38:33.580 --> 05:38:36.540
I think Commissioner
Rechtschauffen's comment
05:38:36.540 --> 05:38:39.890
and Commissioner Baxter's
direction to PacifiCorp
05:38:39.890 --> 05:38:43.670
on providing follow-up
on their tribal outreach
05:38:43.670 --> 05:38:46.410
and consultation, if they
could specifically include
05:38:46.410 --> 05:38:50.160
information regarding their
followup with the Karuk tribe
05:38:50.160 --> 05:38:52.410
that would be greatly
appreciated when they provide
05:38:52.410 --> 05:38:54.410
that information back to the Commission.
05:38:56.910 --> 05:38:59.801
And I wanted to thank
all of the participants,
05:38:59.801 --> 05:39:02.320
that has been very helpful
for me as a new Commissioner
05:39:02.320 --> 05:39:04.453
to hear from all of you at utilities.
05:39:11.520 --> 05:39:15.150
I see Commissioner Schrom
as her hand, Commissioner?
05:39:15.150 --> 05:39:19.190
Thank you, this discussion
and the previous one
05:39:20.340 --> 05:39:24.440
were very good in
terms of representatives
05:39:24.440 --> 05:39:28.650
getting direct feedback to
the investor-owned utilities
05:39:28.650 --> 05:39:32.620
and to hear the conversation
and for we, Commissioners
05:39:32.620 --> 05:39:36.477
to witness all that conversation
05:39:36.477 --> 05:39:41.477
and to see the connections
being made and trend and I hope
05:39:42.560 --> 05:39:47.043
between the local community
and the local representatives,
05:39:47.940 --> 05:39:52.940
the AFN representatives
earlier to the utilities,
05:39:53.114 --> 05:39:58.114
so that really amplifies the
importance of these efforts
05:39:59.230 --> 05:40:01.910
to mitigate the PSPS impact,
05:40:01.910 --> 05:40:06.680
so thank you very much for
all of us to put this together
05:40:10.670 --> 05:40:11.750
And thank you all,
05:40:14.610 --> 05:40:17.000
there's no other questions
from the Commissioners,
05:40:17.000 --> 05:40:20.867
I guess I would just hand it
over back to President Batjer
05:40:21.730 --> 05:40:24.450
and thank all the panelists today
05:40:24.450 --> 05:40:27.935
for participating as well as the IOUs,
05:40:27.935 --> 05:40:30.540
I think it was a very
productive dialogue,
05:40:30.540 --> 05:40:34.540
and with that I'll let's I guess,
05:40:34.540 --> 05:40:37.673
President Batjer make
any closing comments.
05:40:39.170 --> 05:40:41.800
Well, I wanna thank you Stephanie
05:40:41.800 --> 05:40:44.980
for your wonderful
moderation today this afternoon,
05:40:44.980 --> 05:40:47.270
and thank all of the panelists
05:40:47.270 --> 05:40:50.240
for their very good questions
05:40:50.240 --> 05:40:54.470
and I appreciate that the
IOUs had representatives here
05:40:54.470 --> 05:40:58.630
to answer and if there's
more in depth answers
05:40:58.630 --> 05:41:01.120
or communications, I would encourage you
05:41:02.380 --> 05:41:05.497
to continue to talk to
the local governments,
05:41:05.497 --> 05:41:09.613
the tribal governments
and other constituents.
05:41:10.760 --> 05:41:15.470
With that, we now have, we
need to move to public comment,
05:41:15.470 --> 05:41:17.230
we're about 20 minutes behind
05:41:17.230 --> 05:41:19.170
and we have people
that are waiting on the line
05:41:19.170 --> 05:41:23.050
so I would ask for those
who are still on the line with us
05:41:23.050 --> 05:41:25.708
from the IOU and some of the panelists,
05:41:25.708 --> 05:41:28.620
if you can spare the
time, please listen in,
05:41:28.620 --> 05:41:30.410
the public comment is very important
05:41:30.410 --> 05:41:33.370
to the Commissioners and myself,
05:41:33.370 --> 05:41:36.960
so I would invite you to
please stay on the line.
05:41:36.960 --> 05:41:39.200
So we will now turn to public comments.
05:41:39.200 --> 05:41:40.860
If you wish to make a public comment,
05:41:40.860 --> 05:41:44.457
dial into 800-857-1917
05:41:47.020 --> 05:41:49.290
and enter pass code 5180519#
05:41:55.410 --> 05:41:56.760
and press *1
05:41:57.800 --> 05:41:59.390
to be placed in the queue
05:41:59.390 --> 05:42:01.640
and the operator will take your name
05:42:01.640 --> 05:42:03.530
and information if appropriate.
05:42:03.530 --> 05:42:05.620
If you have already dialed in
05:42:05.620 --> 05:42:09.050
to the public comment
telephone line, please press *1
05:42:10.000 --> 05:42:12.660
to get into the public comment queue.
05:42:12.660 --> 05:42:15.270
You will have two minutes to speak,
05:42:15.270 --> 05:42:19.030
you will hear a bell sound
when your time is up.
05:42:19.030 --> 05:42:21.350
Please adhere to that rule,
05:42:21.350 --> 05:42:23.513
because others will be waiting in line.
05:42:24.974 --> 05:42:28.520
So with that guidance in mind,
I welcome today's speakers
05:42:28.520 --> 05:42:30.990
and I will turn it back to the operator
05:42:30.990 --> 05:42:33.780
to open up the public
comment telephone line.
05:42:33.780 --> 05:42:37.020
Operator, could you please
bring on the first speaker?
05:42:37.020 --> 05:42:38.159
Yes, thank you
05:42:38.159 --> 05:42:39.720
and the public comment line is open,
05:42:39.720 --> 05:42:43.893
and our first speaker is
Melissa Casner, your line is open.
05:42:53.040 --> 05:42:54.290
Melissa, are you there?
05:42:56.900 --> 05:42:59.737
Can you hear me?
Now we can, thank you.
05:43:02.930 --> 05:43:04.250
This is Melissa Casner
05:43:04.250 --> 05:43:06.730
from the center for
accessible technology,
05:43:06.730 --> 05:43:10.010
which is the most active
party representing the interests
05:43:10.010 --> 05:43:15.010
of medically vulnerable customers
regarding de-energization.
05:43:15.740 --> 05:43:18.340
I would say that the
members of the AFN panels
05:43:18.340 --> 05:43:20.900
who spoke earlier today were polite,
05:43:20.900 --> 05:43:23.780
but I'd like to be blunt
about what's been going on
05:43:23.780 --> 05:43:26.850
for members of the AFN community.
05:43:26.850 --> 05:43:30.810
The IOUs have been turning
off power for several years now
05:43:30.810 --> 05:43:33.910
and the risks to the AFN
population were flagged
05:43:33.910 --> 05:43:37.330
from the get-go but
haven't been addressed.
05:43:37.330 --> 05:43:39.370
These customers have been burdened
05:43:39.370 --> 05:43:42.683
while the IOUs say that
they're learning as they go.
05:43:43.650 --> 05:43:45.710
This was exactly as predicted,
05:43:45.710 --> 05:43:49.050
but it's unreasonable and it's unjust.
05:43:49.050 --> 05:43:53.110
What the IOUs described as
learning experiences for them
05:43:53.110 --> 05:43:55.230
are terrifying and costly
05:43:55.230 --> 05:43:58.610
for customers and
communities who are at risk.
05:43:58.610 --> 05:43:59.990
The responses earlier today
05:43:59.990 --> 05:44:02.530
on Medical Baseline were illustrative.
05:44:02.530 --> 05:44:05.440
The Commission has
already ordered the IOUs
05:44:05.440 --> 05:44:09.080
to expand support for
customers with medical needs
05:44:09.080 --> 05:44:11.970
beyond those enrolled
in Medical Baseline,
05:44:11.970 --> 05:44:14.690
but in fact, this past wildfire season,
05:44:14.690 --> 05:44:17.010
nothing was offered to these customers,
05:44:17.010 --> 05:44:21.000
no increased notification,
no increased support,
05:44:21.000 --> 05:44:23.020
and the fact that the panelists today
05:44:23.020 --> 05:44:25.610
were offering to listen and learn more
05:44:25.610 --> 05:44:28.700
is too little and too
late at this point.
05:44:28.700 --> 05:44:31.170
Representatives of the AFN community,
05:44:31.170 --> 05:44:34.170
including CforAT have
been raising issues
05:44:34.170 --> 05:44:36.060
since this proceeding began.
05:44:36.060 --> 05:44:39.200
It's not the time for the
IOUs to first be reacting
05:44:39.200 --> 05:44:42.380
and saying, oh, we have
a lot of learning to do.
05:44:42.380 --> 05:44:45.870
The CPUCs directives have not
been meaningfully implemented
05:44:45.870 --> 05:44:48.950
and the IOUs absolutely
need to do better,
05:44:48.950 --> 05:44:52.400
not behave as if each
time they hear something,
05:44:52.400 --> 05:44:54.913
they're hearing it for
the first time, thank you.
05:44:57.920 --> 05:45:01.133
Thank you Melissa,
operator, the next caller please.
05:45:02.040 --> 05:45:04.920
The next
caller is Alexa Martin,
05:45:04.920 --> 05:45:05.953
your line's open.
05:45:09.450 --> 05:45:10.940
Hi, my name's Alexa Martin
05:45:10.940 --> 05:45:12.240
and I'm the program manager
05:45:12.240 --> 05:45:14.130
of the Independent
Living Resource Center,
05:45:14.130 --> 05:45:17.560
which serves individuals
with disabilities in Ventura,
05:45:17.560 --> 05:45:20.640
Santa Barbara and San
Luis Obispo counties.
05:45:20.640 --> 05:45:23.420
When PSPSs first
began, we knew right away
05:45:23.420 --> 05:45:25.610
that as a community-based organization
05:45:25.610 --> 05:45:28.470
in a high fire risk area,
05:45:28.470 --> 05:45:30.710
we needed to be a part of the solution.
05:45:30.710 --> 05:45:33.050
We began by educating
the utility companies
05:45:33.050 --> 05:45:34.710
on what people with disabilities
05:45:34.710 --> 05:45:36.500
that are reliant on power need
05:45:36.500 --> 05:45:39.770
and how significant
impacts of a PSPS could be,
05:45:39.770 --> 05:45:42.180
as well as ensuring
the individuals we serve
05:45:42.180 --> 05:45:45.030
have the backup power
they need during a shutoff.
05:45:45.030 --> 05:45:47.810
Throughout our efforts and
communications with SCE,
05:45:47.810 --> 05:45:49.860
we have felt that they've
understood our concerns
05:45:49.860 --> 05:45:52.460
and we have been met
with nothing but support.
05:45:52.460 --> 05:45:53.640
The understanding and support
05:45:53.640 --> 05:45:55.410
has been reinforced consistently,
05:45:55.410 --> 05:45:57.550
especially in recent months.
05:45:57.550 --> 05:45:59.210
We are now contracting with Edison
05:45:59.210 --> 05:46:01.430
to perform marketing
to people with disabilities
05:46:01.430 --> 05:46:04.480
in our areas, their
family members, doctors
05:46:04.480 --> 05:46:07.220
and the broader public about
the Medical Baseline program
05:46:07.220 --> 05:46:09.297
and other programs
available through SCE.
05:46:10.660 --> 05:46:13.910
They continuously seek
information on us for feedback
05:46:13.910 --> 05:46:16.780
and ways they can improve
their response in the community.
05:46:16.780 --> 05:46:17.890
What it really comes down to
05:46:17.890 --> 05:46:19.590
is that Public Safety Power Shutoff,
05:46:19.590 --> 05:46:21.250
they're challenging for everyone,
05:46:21.250 --> 05:46:23.500
especially the disability community.
05:46:23.500 --> 05:46:26.720
They impact planning,
preparation and communication.
05:46:26.720 --> 05:46:28.060
However, it is our experience
05:46:28.060 --> 05:46:31.810
that SCE has been very
responsive to all of our suggestions,
05:46:31.810 --> 05:46:34.230
supported our highest
risk community members
05:46:34.230 --> 05:46:35.160
and have done their best
05:46:35.160 --> 05:46:37.630
to keep the community
prepared and informed
05:46:37.630 --> 05:46:39.330
and are committed to
learning and growing
05:46:39.330 --> 05:46:40.820
through each experience.
05:46:40.820 --> 05:46:43.270
Thank you for taking the
time for public comment.
05:46:45.371 --> 05:46:49.970
Thank you for calling,
operator, the next caller, please?
05:46:49.970 --> 05:46:52.380
Our next
caller is a Will Abrams,
05:46:52.380 --> 05:46:53.513
your line is open.
05:46:55.770 --> 05:46:57.680
Thanks very much and
thank you to the panel
05:46:57.680 --> 05:47:00.770
for an informative conversation,
05:47:00.770 --> 05:47:04.100
I appreciated all the participation,
05:47:04.100 --> 05:47:07.720
particularly Supervisor
Hopkins from Sonoma County
05:47:07.720 --> 05:47:10.680
and her comments representing
05:47:10.680 --> 05:47:12.900
residents here in Sonoma County.
05:47:12.900 --> 05:47:16.140
I think what we've heard
is that there is more work
05:47:16.140 --> 05:47:19.950
that needs to get done and
more specific commitments
05:47:19.950 --> 05:47:22.460
from the IOUs in terms
of what they will do
05:47:22.460 --> 05:47:25.360
during power safety power shutoffs.
05:47:25.360 --> 05:47:28.640
So providing information,
05:47:28.640 --> 05:47:31.410
it will enable the local
governments and the tribes
05:47:31.410 --> 05:47:33.530
to be able to better collaborate.
05:47:33.530 --> 05:47:37.240
This includes information
about the sectionalization devices
05:47:37.240 --> 05:47:40.370
and where those are
located and what those are,
05:47:40.370 --> 05:47:42.950
so that the local
governments and the tribes
05:47:42.950 --> 05:47:45.890
can contribute to decisions about where
05:47:45.890 --> 05:47:48.250
and what gets shut off and when.
05:47:48.250 --> 05:47:50.170
Without that information,
05:47:50.170 --> 05:47:52.740
there is little that local
governments can do
05:47:52.740 --> 05:47:54.960
to collaborate on those issues.
05:47:54.960 --> 05:47:57.790
This needs to be done
along with wind sensors
05:47:57.790 --> 05:47:59.310
and other information
05:47:59.310 --> 05:48:01.670
so that the local governments
have the information
05:48:01.670 --> 05:48:05.410
to provide the IOUs
constructive feedback.
05:48:05.410 --> 05:48:08.470
I would also say that
the CRCs are an area
05:48:08.470 --> 05:48:11.670
where there's much improvement
that needs to be made.
05:48:11.670 --> 05:48:14.890
Service level agreements
that are often used
05:48:14.890 --> 05:48:18.670
by the IOUs with their vendors
should be used in this case,
05:48:18.670 --> 05:48:22.640
to very specifically spell
out in contractual language
05:48:22.640 --> 05:48:25.350
what the IOUs will do and will not do
05:48:25.350 --> 05:48:28.220
during power safety power shutoffs.
05:48:28.220 --> 05:48:33.220
Additionally, I would suggest
that the AFN populations
05:48:33.920 --> 05:48:38.920
receive similar orientation
around results orientation
05:48:39.310 --> 05:48:41.240
or the communications.
05:48:41.240 --> 05:48:44.090
The IOUs have stepped
up their commitment
05:48:44.090 --> 05:48:49.090
to achieving results in terms
of PSPS communications,
05:48:49.250 --> 05:48:52.740
but for whatever reason and guidelines
05:48:52.740 --> 05:48:56.900
and in the wildfire mitigation
plans, for AFN populations
05:48:56.900 --> 05:49:00.073
they talk about how
and the types of ways
05:49:00.073 --> 05:49:02.063
that they will go about communication.
05:49:04.100 --> 05:49:06.523
I would encourage
you to please make sure
05:49:06.523 --> 05:49:09.670
that those communications
are results oriented,
05:49:09.670 --> 05:49:10.670
thank you very much.
05:49:12.990 --> 05:49:16.053
Thank you, Mr. Abrams,
operator the next caller, please.
05:49:17.670 --> 05:49:18.503
Ma'am I'm sorry,
05:49:18.503 --> 05:49:20.123
no further callers at this time.
05:49:22.378 --> 05:49:23.820
Okay, thank you.
05:49:23.820 --> 05:49:26.720
Well with no more callers on the line,
05:49:26.720 --> 05:49:30.230
the public comment period is now closed.
05:49:30.230 --> 05:49:33.050
I thank you all for participating.
05:49:33.050 --> 05:49:34.700
For those who did call in,
05:49:34.700 --> 05:49:38.490
I do want to again extend my thank you
05:49:38.490 --> 05:49:41.520
for all of our panelists today
05:49:41.520 --> 05:49:43.800
and for those who participated
05:49:43.800 --> 05:49:46.800
in listening into the panel discussion,
05:49:46.800 --> 05:49:51.220
I particularly want to
thank the staff of the CPUC.
05:49:51.220 --> 05:49:54.330
These workshops are extremely important
05:49:54.330 --> 05:49:56.470
but they do take a lot of work.
05:49:56.470 --> 05:50:01.470
So I want to thank our Executive
Director, Rachel Peterson
05:50:02.600 --> 05:50:05.290
for her leadership and her guidance
05:50:05.290 --> 05:50:08.287
and I would like to thank the SED,
05:50:10.445 --> 05:50:14.070
our safety enforcement division
05:50:14.070 --> 05:50:16.530
and all of the folks that work so hard,
05:50:16.530 --> 05:50:21.530
thank you so much Lee Palmer
and Tony Nowell and your team.
05:50:22.250 --> 05:50:26.200
I want to thank David van Dyken
05:50:27.400 --> 05:50:31.100
who helped moderate
our panelists this afternoon,
05:50:31.100 --> 05:50:33.020
as well as Vance Taylor,
05:50:33.020 --> 05:50:36.610
and I want to thank
Stephanie Green, of course,
05:50:36.610 --> 05:50:38.930
who just finished her moderating
05:50:38.930 --> 05:50:41.520
of our local and tribal governments.
05:50:41.520 --> 05:50:44.270
And of course, Robert Stanford,
05:50:44.270 --> 05:50:48.020
who has been working
so hard all day long
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to keep us all connected and online
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and with our video working
and our audio working
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and for his team as well.
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Great thanks.
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I want to thank my fellow Commissioners
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for their participation today
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and their terrific questions
and their attention
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as always to detail.
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So with that, oh, most importantly,
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I wanna thank my chief of
staff, Shannon O'Rourke.
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So she's been working hard
with the team since January
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on making this day occur.
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So thank you all very much
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and thank you for those
that I didn't name by name.
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Thank you, thank you and
we will have follow-up I'm sure
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and in some cases we've already listed
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what's going to be followed
up with the IOUs in particular,
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answer some of our questions.
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So thank you all very much
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and I appreciate your involvement today.
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(group chattering)