-: Oh, causing trouble.
-: Yeah.
-: All right. Are we ready?
-: We're ready. -: All right, Callie.
Let's do it.
Callie: Good morning.
This is Callie Farrar, Commission Secretary.
I'll be serving as the meeting moderator
for today's conference.
Just a few reminders.
When it is your time to speak,
you will be transferred over from guest to panelists.
While transferring, the speaker and audience may experience
a moment of delay, this is normal.
Speakers will also need to begin their video
and remove themselves from mute
for the video and audio to work.
Commission does reserve the right to remove any audio
or video sharing capabilities from any person
if needed at any time.
Chairman Craddick, when are ready to begin when you are.
Thank you, and good morning, Callie.
This is Christi Craddick.
This meeting of the Railroad Commission of Texas
will come to order to consider matters
which have been duly posted with the Secretary of State
for June 8th, 2021.
Under our public participation policy,
anyone desiring to offer public testimony on any items
that are not noticed on today's agenda
was required to register in advance.
I think we have one person who's registered in advance.
The Commission will consider the items on the agenda
as posted on the agenda,
and, Callie, we're on number one.
Good morning Christina. I already see you ready to go.
Callie: (laughs) Yes. Thank you.
Christina Poole is going to be presenting.
Christina, we are ready when you are.
-: Good morning, chairman and Commissioners.
For the record, my name is Christina Poole
and I'm with the Oversight and Safety Division.
The agenda item before you is case number 5923,
the application of Atmos Energy West Texas division,
for test year of 2020 annual interim rate adjustment
for the West Texas Triangle distribution system.
This is the first interim rate adjustment
since the company's last rate case, GUD number 10900.
This adjustment represents an incremental rate requirement
of approximately $416,183,
which will be recovered from the customers
under the proposed rate adjustment.
The recommended adjustment does not include recovery
of any costs associated with the winter weather event
of February, 2021.
Atmos has also stated its intention by letter
to defer the effective date of the proposed IRA rate change
until September 1st in recognizing the ongoing
economic effects of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Staff recommends approval of the interim rate adjustment.
I'm available for questions.
-: Thank you. Are there any questions?
All right. I move we approve the examiner's recommendation.
Is there a second?
-: Second.
-: Second by Commissioner Christian.
All those in favor say aye.
-: Aye. -: Aye.
Motion passes, that item's approved.
Thank you, Christina.
Callie, number two.
Callie: Yes. Thank you.
Frank Tomicek will be presenting agenda item two.
Frank we are ready when you are.
-: Thank you, Callie.
Madam Chairman, Commissioners, good morning.
I'm Frank Tomicek with the Oversight and Safety Division.
This morning's next agenda item is case number 5924,
application made by CenterPoint Energy Entex,
for a test year 2020 annual interim rate adjustment
for the unincorporated areas and municipalities
with ceded jurisdiction
in its South Texas division service area.
This is the third interim rate adjustment
since the company's last rate case in GUD number 10669,
which set base interim rate adjustment component.
Under these factors,
the company's identified an annual test year
incremental rate requirement of approximately $4,602,635,
of which $1,548,235 will be recovered
from the environments in ceded jurisdictional customers
on proposed rate adjustment.
This recommended rate adjustment does not include
recovery of any costs associated
with the winter weather event of February 2021.
Staff's review of the filing has found it
to be compliant with the provisions of the group statutes,
and staff is recommending approval.
I can address any questions at this time.
Christi: Thank you. Are there any questions?
All right, I move we approve the examiners recommendation.
Is there a second?
-: Second.
-: Second by Commissioner Wright.
All in favor say aye. -: Aye.
Motion passes. That item's approved. Thank you, Frank.
Let's see, Callie, we've got Sarah's coming up
for several, correct?
Callie: Yes, that is correct. Thank you.
Sarah Montoya-Foglesong will be presenting agenda items
three, four, and six.
Sarah, we are ready when you are.
-: Thank you, Callie.
Good morning, chairman and Commissioners.
For the record, my name is Sarah Montoya-Foglesong,
and I'm representing the market oversight section
of the oversight and safety division.
Item number three is case number 5813,
the application of Texas Gas Service Company
for test year 2020 annual interim rate adjustment
for the Central Gulf service area.
This case represents the first interim rate adjustment
since the company's most recent rate case, GUD number 10928.
This adjustment represents an incremental increase
of $10,698,852, of which $834,130 is recoverable
from customers subject to the order in this case.
The recommended adjustment does not include
recovery of any costs associated
with the winter weather event of February, 2021.
Staff recommends approval of the interim rate adjustment
as revised, and I'm available to answer any questions.
-: Good, there any questions? (phone rings)
All right, I move we approve the examiner's recommendation.
Is there a second?
-: Second.
-: Second by Commissioner Christian.
All in favor say aye.
-: Aye. -: Aye.
-: Motion passes, that item's approved.
(phone ringing) Number four.
-: Thank you. Item number four is case number 5925.
The application filed by CenterPoint Energy Entex
for test year 2020 annual interim rate adjustment
for the unincorporated areas of the Houston division
and cities that have ceded jurisdiction
to the Railroad Commission of Texas.
This case represents the fourth interim rate adjustment
since the company's most recent rate case, GUD number 10567.
This adjustment represents an incremental increase
of $13,844,809, of which $7,059,193 is recoverable
from customers subject to the order in this case.
The recommended adjustment does not include
recovery of any costs associated
with the winter weather event of 2021,
and staff recommends approval
of this interim rate adjustment,
and I'm still available for any questions.
-: Thank you. Are there any questions?
All right, I move we approve the examiner's recommendation.
Is there a second?
-: Second.
-: Second by Commissioner Wright.
All in favor say aye.
-: Aye. -: Aye. Motion passes.
That item's approved,
and we're passing number five, is that correct?
Callie: Yes, that is correct.
Staff is suggesting we pass on item five.
-: Okay, so number six, please.
-: Thank you, item number six is case number 5926,
another application filed by CenterPoint Energy Entex.
This is for the test year 2020
annual interim rate adjustment
for the unincorporated areas of the Texas Coast division
and the cities that have ceded jurisdiction
to the Railroad Commission of Texas.
This case represents the fourth interim rate adjustment
since the company's most recent rate case, GUD number 10567.
This adjustment represents an incremental increase
of $3,718,642, of which $1,359,300 is recoverable
from customers subject to the order in this case.
The recommended adjustment does not include recovery
of any costs associated with the winter weather event
of February, 2021.
Staff recommends approval of this interim rate adjustment,
and still I'm available if you have any questions.
Christi: Thank you. Are there any questions?
All right, I move we approve the examiner's recommendation.
Is there a second?
-: Second.
-: Second by Commissioner Christian.
All those in favor say aye.
-: Aye. -: Aye. Motion passes.
That item's approved. Thank you, Sarah.
All right. -: Thank you.
-: Callie, we've got seven and eight.
Same person, right? -: Yes. Yes, same person.
Thank you.
Tariq Usman will be presenting
agenda item seven and eight.
Tariq, we are ready when you are.
And it looks like we're waiting
just a little bit for him to come over.
Good morning Tariq. How are you today?
-: Good morning. How are you Callie?
-: Good. We are ready when you are.
-: Good morning chairman and Commissioners.
For the record, my name is Tariq Usman.
I am representing the market oversight section
of the Oversight and Safety Division.
The agenda item number seven is case number 5922,
the application of Atmos Energy West Texas division,
for the test year 2020 annual interim rate adjustment
for the unincorporated of the West Texas division.
This case is the third interim rate adjustment
the company has filed for the West Texas division
since a final order was issued in the most recent
statement of intent Gas Utility Docketed number 10743.
This adjustment represent an incremental increase
of $15,065,235, of which $1,266,773 is recoverable
from customers subject to the order of this docket.
The recommended adjustment does not include recovery
of any costs associated with the winter weather event
of February, 2021.
I recommend approval of the interim rate adjustment.
I am available to answer any questions.
Christi: Thank you. Are there any questions?
-: No. -: All right.
I move we approve the examiner's recommendation.
Is there a second?
-: Second. -: Second by
Commissioner Wright.
All in favor say aye.
-: Aye. -: Aye.
-: Aye. Motion passes. That item's approved.
Tariq, number eight, please.
-: Item number eight is case number 5927.
The application of CenterPoint Energy Entex
for test year 2020 annual interim rate adjustment
for the unincorporated areas
of the Beaumont East Texas division
and cities that have ceded jurisdiction
to the Railroad Commission of Texas.
This case is the first interim rate adjustment
the company has filed for the Beaumont East Texas division
since the final order was issued in the most recent
statement of intent, Gas Utilities Docket number 10920.
At the request of the company,
the Commission consolidated case number 6541 and 6657,
both of which were appeals of municipal denials
of the interim rate adjustment.
This adjustment represent a system-wide
incremental increase of $5,893,107,
of which $2,070,618 is recoverable from customers
subject to the order of this docket.
The recommended adjustment does not include recovery
of any costs associated with the winter weather event
of February, 2021.
I recommend approval of the interim rate adjustment.
I'm available to answer any questions.
Christi: Thank you. Are there any questions?
-: No. -: All right.
I move we approve the examiner's recommendation.
Is there a second?
-: Second.
-: Second by Commissioner Christian.
All those in favor say aye.
-: Aye.
-: Aye. Motion passes. That item's approved. Thank you Tariq.
-: Thank you. -: All right, Callie,
items nine and 10, we got Veronica, I think.
Callie: Yes, thank you.
Veronica Ruberto will be presenting
agenda items nine and 10.
Veronica, we are ready when you are.
It looks like we're waiting just a little bit.
That delay must be quite a delay today. (laughs)
Good morning, Veronica. How are you?
-: Good morning. Thank you, Callie.
Good morning chairman, Commissioners.
For the record, Veronica Ruberto,
Administrative Law Judge with the Hearings division.
Item number nine is the application
by San Miguel Electric Cooperative, Inc.
requesting of case one release of reclamation obligations
on 146.1 acres within San Miguel Lignite Mine,
permit number 11H located in McMullen and Atascosa counties.
The approved postmining land use
within the subject area is pasture land.
The permit area is bonded based upon
the worst case bond method,
so there is no eligible bond reduction
until phase three release is approved.
Evidence in the record supports that San Miguel
has satisfied all requirements
for phase one release of the subject area.
After notice, no comments or requests
for a hearing were received.
San Miguel and staff are the only parties to the proceeding.
No exceptions were filed,
no changes to the current bond are requested in this docket.
It is recommended that the requests for phase one release
of reclamation obligations be approved
and that the bond amount not be reduced at this time.
I'm available for questions.
-: Thank you. Are there any questions?
Then I move we approve the examiner's recommendation.
Is there a second?
-: Second.
-: Second by Commissioner Wright.
All in favor say aye.
-: Aye.
-: Aye. Motion passes. That item's approved.
Veronica, number 10, please.
-: Item number 10 is the application by Farco Mining, Inc.
requesting a phase three release of reclamation obligations
on 531.9 acres within the Trevino Mine,
permit number 45D, located in Webb county.
Farco is also requesting final closure of the permit
given the subject acreage represents all the acres
that remain under bond.
The approved postmining land use within the release area
is pasture land and developed water resources.
Evidence in the record supports that the Farco
has satisfied all requirements
for a full release of the subject area.
After notice, no comments or requests
for a hearing were received.
Farco and staff are the only parties to the proceedings.
No exceptions were filed to the proposed order.
Evidence supports that the permit area
has been fully reclaimed.
It is recommended that the request for release
for the reclamation obligations for the subject area
be approved, the permit be terminated,
and that Farco's surety bond be released in its entirety.
I'm available for questions.
Callie: Commissioners we also have Cameron Twing
representing applicant Farco Mining Incorporated,
registered and available for questions.
-: Thank you, Callie.
Are there any questions of the witness or Veronica?
It's interesting to see this all the way through,
so get to close another mine in this state.
All right, I move we approve the examiner's recommendation.
Is there a second?
-: Second.
-: Second by Commissioner Christian.
All in favor say aye.
-: Aye. -: Aye. Motion passes.
That item's approved. Thank you, Veronica.
-: All right, Callie, if you'll call up presenter
for 11 through 30,
Callie: Yes, thank you.
Kristi Reeve will be presenting agenda items
11 through 30, and she will also be continuing
with the item 31.
Kristi, we are ready when you are.
-: Good morning chairman and Commissioners.
For the record, Kristi Reeve,
Administrative Law Judge with the Hearings division.
I'll be presenting items number 11 through 31.
Item numbers 11 through 30 will be presented together
as they have common parties and facts.
These items are the result of complaints filed by
Texas Gulf Coast alleging Promise Energy Operations, LLC
does not have a good faith claim
to operate the subject leases and wells.
Texas Gulf Coast provided evidence in support
of its contention in the form of the unit agreement
relied upon by Promise and a lack of production
from the wells on the unit,
such that the agreement has expired.
Promise acknowledges the lack of production,
but argued force majeure clause prevented
the unit agreement from expiring.
Promise failed to provide any legal basis
in support of this argument.
It is recommended the Commission find
Promise failed to provide a reasonably satisfactory showing
of a good faith claim to operate the wells
and order the wells to be plugged and abandoned
in accordance with Statewide rule 14,
and the subject leases brought into compliance
with Commission rules.
No exceptions were filed. I'm available for questions.
Callie: Commissioners, we also have Rob Hargrove
representing Texas Gulf,
registered and available for questions.
-: Thank you.
Are there any questions of Mr. Hargrove or Kristi?
All right, I move we approve the examiner's recommendation
for items 11 through 30.
Is there a second?
-: Second.
-: Second by Commissioner Wright.
All in favor say aye.
-: Aye. -: Aye. Motion passes.
Those items are approved.
Kristi number 31, please.
-: Number 31 is a motion for rehearing.
On April 13th, 2021, the Commission entered an order
approving Blackhorn's application for renewal
of its commercial permit to operate an oil and gas
waste stationery treatment facility
in accordance with Statewide rule eight.
On May 10th, 2021 protestants Calvert and Tara Jones
filed a timely motion for rehearing.
On May 20th, 2021, Blackhorn filed a timely response
in opposition to the motion.
Based on the evidence developed in the record,
none of the issues raised
in the motion for rehearing are new.
All issues raised in the motion were already raised
by the Joneses and considered by the Commission
prior to the Commission issuing its order in this case.
It is recommended that the motion be denied.
The motion will be overruled
by operation of law on July 22nd, 2021.
I'm available for questions.
-: Thank you. -: Commissioners,
we also have Clay Nance representing
Blackhorn Environmental Services, LLC,
registered and available for questions as well.
-: Thank you, Callie.
Are there any questions of Mr. Nance-
-: Madame- -: Or Kristi?
-: Madame Chair, I'd like to say a few things
about this facility and Just have some comments on it.
While I am ready to vote on the motion,
the rehearing based on the evidence presented
at this hearing, I wanted to know,
does both of my fellow Commissioners know
that our (indistinct) section issued a permit suspension
notice of violation and request for additional information
to Blackhorn Environmental Services, LLC
for this facility last Friday, June 4th.
You probably understand that Blackhorn
has requested a hearing in the matter.
Blackhorn will be required to provide
responsive information to prove that they have not violated
the terms of its permit.
The people of Texas have my word that we will continue
to closely monitor this situation.
With that, I'm ready to hear your motion, Chairman.
-: Thank you. Are there any other questions or comments?
All right.
I move we approve the examiner's recommendation.
Is there a second?
Wayne: Second.
-: Second by Commissioner Christian.
All in favor say aye.
-: Aye. -: Aye.
-: Aye. Motion passes. That item's approved.
Thank you, Kristi.
All right. -: Thank you.
-: Let's move on to the oil and gas Consent Agenda.
Those are items 32 through 126.
There are 95 items on the Consent Agenda.
Is there any comments or questions
or things we need to take up individually?
-: I just would like to reiterate again
that I do have a few comments.
I want to point out that almost every single application
regarding state-wide rule 32, concerning flaring
contains a reduction of the overall term
for the flaring either by examiner recommendation
or by voluntary reduction by the operators.
In all cases, the operators do not consider
the recommendations of our examiners to be a first.
In addition, most applications contained
substantial reductions in requested volumes,
some by as much as 86%.
There already are a couple of operators
who happen to produce very poor quality gas,
rich with hydrogen sulfide, carbon dioxide and/or nitrogen.
Those operators don't appear to have any viable,
let alone sufficient pipeline takeaway options
and have instead requested flaring applications.
While those couple of operators have also voluntarily
reduced their terms and the volumes,
I would suggest that those operators reach out
to the many third party vendors who might be able
to utilize this poor quality gas in unconventional ways.
Such methods are becoming more and more popular
to effectively address excess flaring.
With that, I'm ready to hear your motion.
Christi: Thank you. Any other questions
or comments on these?
All right. I move we approve items 32 through 126.
Is there a second?
-: Second.
Christi: Second by Commissioner Wright.
All in favor say aye.
-: Aye.
-: Aye. Motion passes.
Those items are approved.
We've got, let's move on to rule 15, inactive wells.
Let's see, there are 23, I think, that we are gonna look at.
Items one 127 through 151.
Items 141 and 148 are now in compliance,
so I move that we approve item 127 through 151
except for items 141 and 148.
Is there a second?
-: Second.
-: Second by Commissioner Christian.
All in favor say aye.
-: Aye.
-: Aye. Motion passes.
Those items are approved,
and let's go to master default orders.
There are 15 master default orders.
I move we approve items 152 through 166. Is there a second?
-: Second.
-: Second by Commissioner Wright.
All in favor say aye.
-: Aye.
-: Motion passes.
Those items are approved,
and let's go to agreed enforcement orders.
There are 127 agreed enforcement orders.
I move that we approve items 167 through 293.
Is there a second?
-: Second.
-: Second by Commissioner Christian.
All in favor say aye.
-: Aye. -: Aye. Motion passes.
Those items are approved,
and that concludes the hearing sections matter.
We'll now take up the administrative agenda.
Callie, if you'll please call up our presenter
for agenda 294.
Good morning, Randall.
-: Good morning. -: Quick, and already up.
How are ya? (Randall laughs)
-: Good morning Commissioner.
For the record, I'm Randall Collins,
chief operating officer.
Item number 294 on the agenda seeks Commissioner approval
of solicitations and contract amendments pursuant
to the Commission's delegation of authority
and section 2261.254 of the Texas Government Code.
The Commission's internal delegation authority
requires Commissioner approval of contracts
and associated amendments greater than or equal
to $1 million or contracts for outside legal services.
Section 2261.254 of the Texas Government Code
requires commercial approval of contracts
and associated amendments greater than $1 million.
At issue today are two contracts or solicitations
and one amended contract for the continued development
of the Lone Star system.
The additional contract is for outside legal services
to comply with the bill that was passed
during the 87th legislature,
and the necessary approvals will be in place pursuant
to the Commission's delegation of authority and state law.
A summary of the contracts and amendments,
including the numbers and amounts,
are included in your notebooks.
Staff requests that the Commission
to approve the contracts and amendments,
and I'm available if you have any questions.
-: Thank you. Are there any questions?
All right, I move we approve staff's recommendation.
Is there a second?
-: Second.
-: Second by Commissioner Wright.
All in favor say aye.
-: Aye. -: Aye. Motion passes.
That item's approved. Thank you, Randall.
-: Thank you.
-: If you'll please call up, Callie, for 295.
Morning Haley. -: Thank you. (laughs)
Haley Cochran will be presenting agenda item 295.
Haley, we are ready when you are.
-: Good morning chairman, Commissioners.
Haley Cochran with the Office of General Council.
Item number 295 is staff's recommendation
to publish proposed amendments
to 16 Texas Administrative Code section 8.1
relating to general applicability and standards.
The amendments are proposed in subsection B
to incorporate by reference federal pipeline
safety requirements added in recent federal rulemakings.
The rule would be changed to adopt the requirements
by reference as of September 6th, 2021,
and therefore would incorporate
four recent federal rulemakings,
including FMCSA's minimum safety standards
for underground natural gas storage facilities.
The changes to 8.1 will allow the Commission
to submit a certification and agree to adopt and enforce
FMCSA's regulations for intrastate
underground natural gas storage facilities.
Staff requests the Commission's approval
to publish the proposed amendments
in the Texas Register for public comment.
If approved today, the proposal should appear
in the June 25th issue of the Register.
The proposal and an online comment form
would also be made available on the Commission's website.
May I answer any questions?
Christi: Thank you. Are there any questions?
All right, I move we approve staff recommendation.
Is there a second?
Wayne: Second.
Christi: Second by Commissioner Christian.
All in favor say aye.
-: Aye. -: Aye.
-: Motion passes. That item's approved.
Thank you, Haley.
All right, item 296 is public participation item,
and Callie, I understand we have one person
that is registered.
Callie: We do thank you.
I'd like to introduce Emma Pabst with Sierra Club,
and I believe Emma is, she won't be on video,
it'll just be speaking.
So if you want, Emma, you now have three minutes
to speak, and if you, sorry, Chairman Craddick.
(laughs) If you would like to continue.
-: It's fine, so Emma thank you for being here.
You've got three minutes,
whatever your comments are, thank you.
Emma: Yes, of course, of course.
Thank y'all, and good morning.
I appreciate the opportunity to join y'all in common here.
For the record, my name is Emma Pabst,
and I'm a campaign representative with the Sierra Club.
We're a national nonprofit organization
that functions as one of the largest member-based
public interest groups in the nation.
Here in Texas alone our organization
has about 29,000 members and it is on their behalf
that I offer the following comments
on your agency's draft monitoring and enforcement plan
for fiscal year 2022.
From demonstrating the Commission's track record
on monitoring and enforcement to the planning
for safe and effective allocation
of regulatory resources, the goals
of the draft monitoring and enforcement plan are admirable.
We, the Sierra Club, of course, supported them in full.
In order to ensure that the current plan
is able to achieve those objectives,
we urge the Commission to pursue three primary improvements
to the current draft.
First, to aim higher on monitoring inspections
and enforcement efforts.
Second, to increase data transparency
and stakeholder engagement,
and third to address additional issues
as introduced by the Texas legislature this session.
Firstly, in order to discourage repeat violations
and to protect the state's natural resources
and our environment, the Commission should inspect wells
more frequently, levy higher penalties against violators,
and increase minimum fines for administrative penalties.
In a state like Texas, with hundreds of thousands
of oil and gas wells spread out
over the 268,000 square miles,
it can be difficult to enforce the law.
Renewed monitoring efforts can help
by raising the well inspections goal
from 90,000 to a hundred thousand,
we can encourage operators to proactively comply.
Furthermore, the use of efficient and consistent penalties
plays a key role in deterring and punishing violators.
By levying higher penalties, the Railroad Commission
can encourage fair competition among industry players
while disincentivizing dangerous operations.
Secondly, in order to increase transparency
and stakeholder engagement at the agency,
the Commission should publish historical data on the metrics
that are covered by the plan,
as well as create additional outreach strategies
to educate and engage the public about the Commission
and the organization's objectives.
Since redesigning the website, key historical data
on monitoring enforcement and complaints have disappeared.
To ensure effective public participation
in this and other processes,
that information should be republished
in the draft plan and made available online
on the Commission's website once again.
Furthermore, like TCEQ, the Commission should also
make comments and complaints available online
as well as clearly define the process by which
public feedback factors into the draft plan
and other enforcement efforts.
This can help build trust and engagement with the agency.
Therein finally, the Commission should address
the changes called for by the Texas legislature
in order to honor the Texans who lost their lives
as a result of the February freeze.
To provide more information on these suggestions,
the Sierra Club has submitted more detailed comments
to the Railroad Commission.
By improving the plan and increasing enforcement
and monitoring efforts across the state,
each of you can help steward the land that we stand on
and create a safer, healthier Texas for all of us.
Thank y'all.
-: Thank you, Ms. Pabst.
Does anybody have any questions or comments?
All right. Thank you very much.
Yes sir. -: Let me make a comment.
Just, I appreciate her testimony.
I'm not referring to her,
just this additional comment.
I do want to say that I do commend our staff,
and for decades before I ever got here,
the surface mining reclamation that we just approved,
the closing, that's historical.
I mean that's, when we see over history that our agency
has restored property after decades
to as good or better than its original use.
I think that's something we need to be very,
applaud our staff and the decades of those
that've gone before us that have implemented that.
So that's historical, that shows that we have been
responsible for decades maybe before
it even became politically correct
to make sure that the environment was cared for.
And this is absolute proof that it's in better shape
than it was when we started.
Also just to update commending our staff
that the latest figures I have
is that in the state of Texas,
all of the state, right now seven hundredths of 1%
of natural gas is being flared.
That means that over 99%, 99.3% is going 100%
to its intended safe environmentally clean use.
And I think that that speaks good of those areas
and the history of the Texas Railroad Commission.
Christi: Thank you Commissioner. I agree with you.
We've come a long way, and we've got a lot
of interesting things that it looks like
we'll be tasked to do in this interim.
So we'll get to that update I think next meeting,
after the Governor has finished signing
or not signing things.
But it's been an interesting few months,
and I think this industry's moving,
it continues to move the correct direction,
so I appreciate it.
Is there anything else?
All right, item 297's our executive session,
which we won't be going into.
And if there's nothing else,
this meeting of the Railroad Commission is adjourned.
Thank you all very much. -: Thank you everybody.