WEBVTT 00:00:00.380 --> 00:00:02.557 Thank you for your patience. 00:00:13.150 --> 00:00:15.140 California Public Utilities Commission 00:00:15.140 --> 00:00:20.140 on this day, Monday, August 2nd, 2021. 00:00:20.220 --> 00:00:22.713 President Batjer, you may begin. 00:00:23.830 --> 00:00:26.710 Thank you operator and hello everyone, 00:00:26.710 --> 00:00:29.720 thank you for joining us today for a public briefing 00:00:29.720 --> 00:00:32.590 from the San Diego Gas and Electric Company 00:00:32.590 --> 00:00:36.140 on its readiness for the public safety power shutoff event 00:00:36.140 --> 00:00:38.930 for this wild fire season. 00:00:38.930 --> 00:00:41.930 Today's briefing from SDG&E is the first 00:00:41.930 --> 00:00:45.020 in a series of four public briefings 00:00:45.020 --> 00:00:46.570 we are holding this week. 00:00:46.570 --> 00:00:49.810 We will hear from Southern California Edison 00:00:49.810 --> 00:00:53.070 and Pacific Gas and Electric tomorrow. 00:00:53.070 --> 00:00:56.380 And on Wednesday, we will hear from Bear Valley Electric, 00:00:56.380 --> 00:00:59.373 Liberty Utilities and from Pacific Core. 00:01:00.470 --> 00:01:05.000 I'm honored today to be joined on this virtual dias 00:01:05.990 --> 00:01:07.230 from representatives from 00:01:07.230 --> 00:01:10.870 the California Governor's Office of Emergency Services, 00:01:10.870 --> 00:01:14.800 the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection 00:01:14.800 --> 00:01:18.463 and the Office of Emergency Infrastructure Safety, 00:01:19.510 --> 00:01:21.720 that would be Chief Deputy Tina Curry, 00:01:21.720 --> 00:01:23.300 who will be joining shortly, 00:01:23.300 --> 00:01:28.300 CAL FIRE's Chief Berlant and OES Caroline Thomas Jacobs, 00:01:29.160 --> 00:01:32.330 as well as my fellow Commissioners, 00:01:32.330 --> 00:01:36.000 Commissioner Rechtschaffen, Commissioner Guzman Aceves, 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:38.860 Commissioner Shiroma, and Commissioner Houck, 00:01:38.860 --> 00:01:41.010 we all welcome you. 00:01:41.010 --> 00:01:43.578 In terms of the format for today's briefing, 00:01:43.578 --> 00:01:46.860 following opening remarks from the dias 00:01:46.860 --> 00:01:50.980 SDG&E senior vice president of electric operations 00:01:50.980 --> 00:01:53.900 and safety officer, Kevin Geraghty 00:01:53.900 --> 00:01:58.900 will provide an overview of SDG&E's state of preparedness 00:01:59.720 --> 00:02:02.603 for the PSPS events, this wildfire season. 00:02:03.500 --> 00:02:07.360 We will then move on to discussion and Q&A 00:02:07.360 --> 00:02:10.350 from the Commissioners and panelists on the dias, 00:02:10.350 --> 00:02:12.170 followed by public comment. 00:02:12.170 --> 00:02:15.543 We are scheduled to conclude today at 5:00 pm. 00:02:16.460 --> 00:02:20.400 For the public comment portion of today's meeting, 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:23.140 which will begin at 3:05, 00:02:23.140 --> 00:02:25.790 if you wish to make a public comment, 00:02:25.790 --> 00:02:30.523 please dial in to 1-800-857-1917, 00:02:34.030 --> 00:02:37.840 enter pass code 7218384# and press *1. 00:02:43.500 --> 00:02:45.750 You will be placed into a queue 00:02:45.750 --> 00:02:48.693 and the operator will take your name and organization. 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:53.660 There may be a delay from the time you press *1 00:02:53.660 --> 00:02:56.860 to the time the operator asks for your information, 00:02:56.860 --> 00:03:00.310 so please be patient and stay on the line. 00:03:00.310 --> 00:03:02.491 You will be called upon to speak 00:03:02.491 --> 00:03:07.090 when we get to the public comment period in today's agenda, 00:03:07.090 --> 00:03:10.880 and we will provide two minutes, let me repeat that, 00:03:10.880 --> 00:03:13.910 we will provide two minutes to each speaker. 00:03:13.910 --> 00:03:16.033 So please be minded of the time. 00:03:17.260 --> 00:03:20.040 I will keep my opening remarks brief 00:03:20.040 --> 00:03:22.500 so that the majority of our time today 00:03:22.500 --> 00:03:26.370 can be used to ensure the public is able to hear 00:03:26.370 --> 00:03:30.560 from SDG&E on their state of preparedness. 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:33.070 With climate change driven weather events 00:03:33.070 --> 00:03:35.000 and the drought conditions we are facing 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:39.120 throughout the West, our wildfire seasons 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:41.770 are starting earlier and ending later, 00:03:41.770 --> 00:03:43.963 and they are persistently more severe. 00:03:45.390 --> 00:03:50.390 2020 into early 2021 was a very long fire season 00:03:51.420 --> 00:03:54.330 and Californians experienced a significant number 00:03:54.330 --> 00:03:57.110 of power shutoffs by their utilities. 00:03:57.110 --> 00:04:01.180 In fact, up until mid January, the majority utilities 00:04:01.180 --> 00:04:04.500 were continuing to call power shut off events. 00:04:04.500 --> 00:04:09.470 This year there have already been over 5,600 fires 00:04:09.470 --> 00:04:13.620 that have burned over 480,000 acres in California 00:04:13.620 --> 00:04:16.530 and it is only the beginning of August. 00:04:16.530 --> 00:04:17.660 We have already entered 00:04:17.660 --> 00:04:21.440 a long and very difficult wildfire season. 00:04:21.440 --> 00:04:24.110 While the legislature, our sister agencies, 00:04:24.110 --> 00:04:26.830 and the CPUC are driving the utilities 00:04:26.830 --> 00:04:29.420 to plan for and execute approaches 00:04:29.420 --> 00:04:32.712 to reduce the risk of utility caused wildfires 00:04:32.712 --> 00:04:35.800 to better weather forecasting, 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:39.440 grid hardening and vegetation management. 00:04:39.440 --> 00:04:42.750 One of the tools that is available to utilities 00:04:42.750 --> 00:04:46.320 is to shut off power to customers. 00:04:46.320 --> 00:04:48.970 Unlike other mitigation strategies, 00:04:48.970 --> 00:04:52.910 these proactive power shutoffs have very real 00:04:52.910 --> 00:04:55.560 and direct impacts to customers. 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:59.030 It is trading individual risk to customers 00:04:59.030 --> 00:05:00.663 for wildfire risk. 00:05:02.290 --> 00:05:06.750 This trade-off is why PSPS events must always be 00:05:06.750 --> 00:05:09.440 a measure of last resort. 00:05:09.440 --> 00:05:13.020 At risk in a PSPS event are people's lives 00:05:13.020 --> 00:05:14.900 and their livelihoods. 00:05:14.900 --> 00:05:17.840 We have continually emphasized to the utilities 00:05:17.840 --> 00:05:19.760 that when they shut off the power 00:05:19.760 --> 00:05:22.000 people's lives are up ended 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:23.810 and for those who rely on power 00:05:23.810 --> 00:05:26.870 to sustain life supporting medical devices, 00:05:26.870 --> 00:05:29.380 the consequences of loss of power 00:05:29.380 --> 00:05:32.100 are far beyond inconvenience, 00:05:32.100 --> 00:05:34.863 they are indeed and can be deadly. 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:39.720 SDG&E and other utilities have the obligation 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:42.340 to manage their grids responsibly 00:05:42.340 --> 00:05:45.490 and they have the obligation to keep the safety 00:05:45.490 --> 00:05:47.460 and wellbeing of their customers 00:05:47.460 --> 00:05:50.053 as their absolute highest priority. 00:05:50.900 --> 00:05:52.550 With that understanding, 00:05:52.550 --> 00:05:55.770 while PSPS is not a sustainable approach 00:05:55.770 --> 00:06:00.720 to reducing wildfire, we must ensure that if and when 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.660 the utilities do decide to shut off power, 00:06:03.660 --> 00:06:06.770 they are prepared to execute and communicate 00:06:06.770 --> 00:06:10.600 in a way that minimizes the impact of the event, 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:14.000 CPUC staff and the staff at our sister agencies, 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:19.000 Cal OES, Cal FIRE, and OEIS have met regularly 00:06:19.260 --> 00:06:23.570 with SDG&E and other utilities to oversee their efforts 00:06:23.570 --> 00:06:28.103 to reduce the use, scope, and impact of any PSPS event. 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:32.760 At the outset I want to convey my appreciation 00:06:32.760 --> 00:06:36.140 for the frontline workers across the utilities 00:06:36.140 --> 00:06:37.620 who have worked diligently 00:06:37.620 --> 00:06:39.830 to implement the improvements needed, 00:06:39.830 --> 00:06:42.390 both in wildfire mitigation measures 00:06:42.390 --> 00:06:45.170 and the PSPS implementation. 00:06:45.170 --> 00:06:49.150 Notably, SDG&E has longer term experience 00:06:49.150 --> 00:06:52.360 with PSPS events than the other utilities. 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:56.023 This experience has caused PG&E and SCE 00:06:57.424 --> 00:07:02.213 to look to SDG&E for insight on how they can execute 00:07:02.213 --> 00:07:06.140 PSPS events in a manner that reduces 00:07:06.140 --> 00:07:08.590 impact on their customers. 00:07:08.590 --> 00:07:11.960 For example, following SDG&E's lead 00:07:11.960 --> 00:07:16.960 in using 211 to distribute PSPS information 00:07:16.960 --> 00:07:20.260 to those who may be impacted by the power shutoff. 00:07:20.260 --> 00:07:25.260 Last year, we saw improvements from SDG&E in planning 00:07:26.310 --> 00:07:28.500 of its community resource centers, 00:07:28.500 --> 00:07:32.920 but SDG&E must still make improvements 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:34.950 in the areas of information sharing 00:07:34.950 --> 00:07:37.050 with state and local agencies, 00:07:37.050 --> 00:07:40.600 greater deployment in its battery backup programs, 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:43.740 particularly to its medically vulnerable customers, 00:07:43.740 --> 00:07:45.970 and in implementing, quote, 00:07:45.970 --> 00:07:50.350 no noticing the energization, end of quote. 00:07:50.350 --> 00:07:55.350 Throughout the next few days I am eager to hear 00:07:55.810 --> 00:07:59.010 from all of the utilities on their progress this year 00:07:59.010 --> 00:08:02.020 to mitigate the impacts of power shutoffs on people 00:08:02.020 --> 00:08:03.733 who rely on electricity 00:08:03.733 --> 00:08:07.410 to maintain necessary life functions, 00:08:07.410 --> 00:08:10.880 including for durable medical equipment 00:08:10.880 --> 00:08:12.303 and assisted technology, 00:08:14.410 --> 00:08:17.060 assistive, excuse me, assistive technology. 00:08:17.060 --> 00:08:20.950 I and my fellow Commissioners are focused on ensuring 00:08:20.950 --> 00:08:24.450 that the utilities improve outreach and notification 00:08:24.450 --> 00:08:28.260 to all customers with particular focus on customers 00:08:28.260 --> 00:08:30.260 with access and functional (indistinct). 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:33.040 This is the second year we have required 00:08:33.040 --> 00:08:36.060 these public briefings and with more maturity 00:08:36.060 --> 00:08:38.730 I am expecting more details, 00:08:38.730 --> 00:08:42.900 thoughtfulness and accountability in these presentations. 00:08:42.900 --> 00:08:46.580 We need specifics on where you have improved, 00:08:46.580 --> 00:08:48.130 where you are lagging 00:08:48.130 --> 00:08:51.220 and where you're focusing your resources. 00:08:51.220 --> 00:08:53.430 As I said many times before, 00:08:53.430 --> 00:08:56.973 the utilities will be judged by outcome, not by plans. 00:08:58.190 --> 00:09:00.670 With that, I will say that I'm very much looking forward 00:09:00.670 --> 00:09:02.540 to getting into the specifics 00:09:02.540 --> 00:09:05.690 and having a good dialogue today. 00:09:05.690 --> 00:09:08.450 I will now turn to our representatives 00:09:08.450 --> 00:09:12.940 from Cal OES, Cal FIRE and OEIS, 00:09:12.940 --> 00:09:17.540 formally the Wildfire Safety Division of the CPUC. 00:09:17.540 --> 00:09:21.630 If you have any opening remarks, please do share now 00:09:21.630 --> 00:09:25.100 and then, when you all are completed, 00:09:25.100 --> 00:09:27.720 I will ask my fellow Commissioners 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:30.100 for any opening remarks that they might have. 00:09:30.100 --> 00:09:32.667 Okay, Cal OES, do you have any comments 00:09:32.667 --> 00:09:34.773 you would like to make at this time? 00:09:36.370 --> 00:09:38.220 Good afternoon, Marybel this is Tina Curry, 00:09:38.220 --> 00:09:41.380 chief deputy at Cal OES, hopefully you can hear me okay. 00:09:41.380 --> 00:09:44.340 Yes I can Tina, thank you so much. 00:09:44.340 --> 00:09:45.173 Absolutely. 00:09:45.173 --> 00:09:48.510 I'm having some technical difficulties, sorry about that. 00:09:48.510 --> 00:09:51.200 I will look forward to the presentation. 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:53.320 I will not give any opening at this time, 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:58.320 other than to echo your very thorough and opening remarks, 00:09:58.520 --> 00:10:00.450 which we completely agree with 00:10:00.450 --> 00:10:03.630 and I just look forward to the opportunity to hear 00:10:03.630 --> 00:10:06.300 where we are, now, a couple of years into 00:10:06.300 --> 00:10:09.820 this PSPS process that we now know 00:10:09.820 --> 00:10:13.380 and also the improvements that have been made 00:10:13.380 --> 00:10:14.780 and the opportunity to ask questions. 00:10:14.780 --> 00:10:19.030 I just greatly appreciate that, to be included, 00:10:19.030 --> 00:10:22.470 including Cal OES in the meeting today, so thanks a lot. 00:10:22.470 --> 00:10:24.940 And we very much appreciate Cal OES 00:10:26.430 --> 00:10:28.670 being a part of this very important dialogue today, 00:10:28.670 --> 00:10:30.310 so thank you, Tina. 00:10:30.310 --> 00:10:33.120 And Chief Berlant, do you have any comments 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:36.070 you'd like to make for on behalf of Cal FIRE? 00:10:36.070 --> 00:10:39.220 Yes, thank you, Chair Batjer, I would just comment, 00:10:39.220 --> 00:10:41.620 I don't want to be too much of a parrot of last year, 00:10:41.620 --> 00:10:44.160 because last year in our same briefings, 00:10:44.160 --> 00:10:46.640 I think I mentioned how busy 00:10:46.640 --> 00:10:48.950 the fire season already was back then 00:10:48.950 --> 00:10:53.570 and this year we are off to a quite a significant increase, 00:10:53.570 --> 00:10:54.870 even compared to last year. 00:10:54.870 --> 00:10:56.740 In fact, with much of the state 00:10:56.740 --> 00:11:00.550 now being under drought conditions, with wildfires starting, 00:11:00.550 --> 00:11:02.030 as you mentioned, earlier and earlier, 00:11:02.030 --> 00:11:04.610 and again, this year, we have seen a significant increase 00:11:04.610 --> 00:11:05.443 in the number of fires 00:11:05.443 --> 00:11:07.890 and even the acres burned compared to last year 00:11:07.890 --> 00:11:11.120 and we know how last year ended, not very well. 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:13.430 San Diego County not hit as hard 00:11:13.430 --> 00:11:14.710 as other parts of the state 00:11:14.710 --> 00:11:17.020 and so definitely interested to hear 00:11:17.020 --> 00:11:21.070 what progress may have been made down with SDG&E 00:11:21.070 --> 00:11:24.420 over the past year, focusing really on 00:11:24.420 --> 00:11:28.180 the goals of the wildfire mitigation plans, 00:11:28.180 --> 00:11:30.270 specifically the vegetation management, 00:11:30.270 --> 00:11:32.550 the infrastructure hardening, and the inspections, 00:11:32.550 --> 00:11:34.370 because like you said, from our perspective, 00:11:34.370 --> 00:11:37.350 those two are where we really need to keep the focus 00:11:37.350 --> 00:11:41.920 and really ensure that PSPSs are a last resort effort. 00:11:41.920 --> 00:11:45.030 So with that, appreciate being here 00:11:45.030 --> 00:11:46.600 and look forward to hearing more 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:48.620 of what is to come, so thank you. 00:11:48.620 --> 00:11:51.600 And we so appreciate Cal FIRE's participation. 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:54.650 It's absolutely critical, just as the participation 00:11:54.650 --> 00:11:56.290 of OES is as well. 00:11:56.290 --> 00:11:59.210 And now I will turn to Caroline Thomas Jacobs 00:11:59.210 --> 00:12:01.733 for any remarks that you might have, Caroline? 00:12:02.950 --> 00:12:05.040 Thank you President Batjer, really appreciate 00:12:05.040 --> 00:12:07.850 the opportunity to be here with you all today. 00:12:07.850 --> 00:12:10.650 As Chief Deputy Curry mentioned, 00:12:10.650 --> 00:12:13.230 I also echo all of what you just said. 00:12:13.230 --> 00:12:15.080 I think you covered it really well 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:16.980 and Chief Berlant covered the threat 00:12:16.980 --> 00:12:18.920 and the focus on wildfire mitigation, 00:12:18.920 --> 00:12:21.710 ultimately being the focus area 00:12:21.710 --> 00:12:24.650 in terms of getting us out of this in the future. 00:12:24.650 --> 00:12:28.640 Did want to just make one additional comment, that for me, 00:12:28.640 --> 00:12:32.230 I'm really interested in hearing from SDG&E today 00:12:32.230 --> 00:12:34.600 on what they're doing to reduce their need 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:38.283 for the frequency of calling PSPS events. 00:12:39.310 --> 00:12:43.640 It was notable to us over last year's season, 00:12:43.640 --> 00:12:45.820 when you look at a normalized basis, 00:12:45.820 --> 00:12:49.260 that the PG&E and Edison were able to reduce, 00:12:49.260 --> 00:12:51.140 even with the increase and red flag warning days 00:12:51.140 --> 00:12:52.900 and the threat on a normalized basis. 00:12:52.900 --> 00:12:54.460 Again, reduce the number of times 00:12:54.460 --> 00:12:56.770 they had to call the customer hours, 00:12:56.770 --> 00:12:59.880 but for San Diego it actually went up. 00:12:59.880 --> 00:13:02.020 So I'm looking forward to hearing some the improvements 00:13:02.020 --> 00:13:04.590 they've made in preparation for this season, 00:13:04.590 --> 00:13:06.730 and particularly around minimizing the impact 00:13:06.730 --> 00:13:08.300 on the customers, because as you mentioned, 00:13:08.300 --> 00:13:10.840 President Batjer, when they do have to call it, 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:13.840 there is a very, very real impact on the customers 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:15.253 that are impacted by it. 00:13:17.040 --> 00:13:19.900 Thank you very much, Caroline, and we absolutely, 00:13:19.900 --> 00:13:23.310 your participation here is very critical, so thank you. 00:13:23.310 --> 00:13:25.660 All right, I will turn to my fellow Commissioners 00:13:25.660 --> 00:13:27.630 for any opening remarks. 00:13:27.630 --> 00:13:29.983 Please speak up if you have any. 00:13:32.880 --> 00:13:34.743 Yes, Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 00:13:35.700 --> 00:13:37.990 I just want to notice that Caroline 00:13:37.990 --> 00:13:39.818 has a much nicer backdrop 00:13:39.818 --> 00:13:43.160 than she ever did when she was at the PacSun. 00:13:43.160 --> 00:13:45.440 I was going to request, President Batjer, 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:46.273 if I could get a backdrop like that 00:13:46.273 --> 00:13:48.190 for the next meeting we have. 00:13:49.610 --> 00:13:54.610 Well, not if it takes you leaving this agency for another, 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:58.388 as Caroline did. (everyone laughing) 00:13:58.388 --> 00:13:59.221 Okay. 00:14:01.780 --> 00:14:06.680 And so thank you, Cliff. Any other remarks, 00:14:06.680 --> 00:14:09.550 opening remarks from the Commissioners? 00:14:10.520 --> 00:14:12.490 Yes, Commissioner Houck. 00:14:12.490 --> 00:14:14.670 Just briefly, I wanted to thank 00:14:14.670 --> 00:14:17.140 our executive director, Rachel Peterson, 00:14:17.140 --> 00:14:20.830 Lee Palmer, our director of safety enforcement division 00:14:20.830 --> 00:14:22.500 and Anthony Knoll and their team 00:14:22.500 --> 00:14:25.000 for all of the work they did in coordinating 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:27.150 and for the agencies that are here today 00:14:27.150 --> 00:14:30.140 and I'm looking forward to hearing from SDG&E 00:14:30.140 --> 00:14:32.670 on what they're continuing to do 00:14:32.670 --> 00:14:35.350 and how they're learning from and understanding the impacts 00:14:35.350 --> 00:14:39.800 of risks and benefits of the PSPS events 00:14:39.800 --> 00:14:42.010 and I hope to hear how they plan 00:14:42.010 --> 00:14:44.140 to apply the lessons they've learned in the past 00:14:44.140 --> 00:14:46.850 to this and future wildfire seasons, 00:14:46.850 --> 00:14:51.280 particularly for California's most vulnerable populations, 00:14:51.280 --> 00:14:54.070 and I thank you for your participation in today's event 00:14:54.070 --> 00:14:56.800 and look forward to listening and learning more 00:14:56.800 --> 00:14:57.800 throughout the week. 00:14:58.970 --> 00:15:00.160 Thank you, Commissioner Houck, 00:15:00.160 --> 00:15:04.760 and I join you in thanking our staff 00:15:04.760 --> 00:15:09.240 for putting on the events of today, as well as this week. 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:11.290 These are not done lightly 00:15:11.290 --> 00:15:13.040 and they take an awful lot of work. 00:15:13.040 --> 00:15:16.110 So, I'm so appreciative of Rachel Peterson 00:15:16.110 --> 00:15:20.810 and the entire CPUC team, including my own advisor, 00:15:20.810 --> 00:15:24.180 Nora Hawkins for all of her hard work, so thank you. 00:15:24.180 --> 00:15:27.683 Commissioner, I don't see any other hands up. 00:15:29.052 --> 00:15:30.970 Okay, thank you. 00:15:30.970 --> 00:15:35.970 With that, we will then turn to our presentation of the day. 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:42.120 We will now turn to Kevin Geraghty, 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:45.970 SDG&E's senior vice president of electric operations 00:15:45.970 --> 00:15:48.410 and chief safety officer to present 00:15:48.410 --> 00:15:53.410 the SDG&E 2021 Wildfire & PSPS Preparations. 00:15:55.680 --> 00:15:59.360 So Kevin, please, I welcome you 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:01.260 and we look forward to your presentation. 00:16:01.260 --> 00:16:03.373 It is scheduled for 60 minutes. 00:16:05.230 --> 00:16:06.720 Good afternoon, just a quick sound check, 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:09.160 am I coming across okay? Yes, you are. 00:16:09.160 --> 00:16:10.870 Thank you very much. 00:16:10.870 --> 00:16:11.800 All right, great. 00:16:11.800 --> 00:16:13.150 Hey, good afternoon everyone 00:16:13.150 --> 00:16:17.030 and thank you for this opportunity to come before you today 00:16:17.030 --> 00:16:19.840 to discuss San Diego Gas and Electric's readiness 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:23.180 for the 2021 wildfire season 00:16:23.180 --> 00:16:26.770 and the potential for public safety power shutoffs. 00:16:26.770 --> 00:16:27.990 My name is Kevin Geraghty, 00:16:27.990 --> 00:16:31.140 I am the senior vice president for electric operations 00:16:31.140 --> 00:16:36.140 at SDG&E and I also serve as its chief safety officer. 00:16:36.560 --> 00:16:38.870 Joining me today to present 00:16:38.870 --> 00:16:42.120 our preparedness for PSPS as a last resort 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:43.170 will be John Jenkins, 00:16:43.170 --> 00:16:46.180 he's our vice-president for electric system operations. 00:16:46.180 --> 00:16:47.590 And to Tashonda Taylor, 00:16:47.590 --> 00:16:50.340 she's our vice president for customer operations. 00:16:50.340 --> 00:16:54.260 I will discuss San Diego Gas and Electric's overall culture 00:16:54.260 --> 00:16:58.090 and approach to wildfire and public safety power shutoffs 00:16:58.090 --> 00:16:59.780 and John will provide a deeper dive 00:16:59.780 --> 00:17:02.960 into exactly how we are focused on purposefully 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:06.110 reducing the scope and duration of PSPS events 00:17:06.110 --> 00:17:09.810 through design projects and our operational decision-making. 00:17:09.810 --> 00:17:11.860 He will also provide a high level status 00:17:11.860 --> 00:17:15.780 of specific elements of our wildfire mitigation plan 00:17:15.780 --> 00:17:20.600 that reduces the scope duration and impact of PSPS in 2021, 00:17:20.600 --> 00:17:23.700 including critical vegetation management. 00:17:23.700 --> 00:17:25.630 Tashonda will provide a deeper dive 00:17:25.630 --> 00:17:29.050 into our focus on customers and communities, 00:17:29.050 --> 00:17:31.120 and especially, and specifically, 00:17:31.120 --> 00:17:33.500 our engagement with our public safety partners, 00:17:33.500 --> 00:17:35.310 and especially our focus on access 00:17:35.310 --> 00:17:37.830 and functional needs customers. 00:17:37.830 --> 00:17:39.930 If we could go to the first slide, please. 00:17:46.490 --> 00:17:49.413 Okay thank you, it's an honored to this presentation. 00:17:49.413 --> 00:17:52.590 This is my first presentation before the CPUC 00:17:52.590 --> 00:17:56.240 and to do that on behalf of my colleagues at SDG&E, 00:17:56.240 --> 00:17:57.720 and especially on behalf of 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:00.530 our chief executive officer, Caroline Winn. 00:18:00.530 --> 00:18:03.330 I think it's important to highlight the culture 00:18:03.330 --> 00:18:07.100 and expectation of all of our colleagues at SDG&E 00:18:07.100 --> 00:18:10.400 with regards to our PSPS preparedness. 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:14.370 Caroline shared these last year, these values, 00:18:14.370 --> 00:18:16.550 these goals, and they are unchanged 00:18:16.550 --> 00:18:19.360 and they will remain forever unchanged. 00:18:19.360 --> 00:18:21.350 First, we will do whatever it takes 00:18:21.350 --> 00:18:23.550 to prevent catastrophic wildfires. 00:18:23.550 --> 00:18:25.080 We will also do whatever it takes 00:18:25.080 --> 00:18:29.170 to minimize the duration, scope and impact of PSPS. 00:18:29.170 --> 00:18:32.610 It does remain our option of last resort 00:18:32.610 --> 00:18:34.880 to prevent catastrophic wildfires. 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:36.720 And then finally we will strengthen 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:40.740 our overall customer and community preparedness, 00:18:40.740 --> 00:18:42.603 our response and our resiliency. 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:47.930 First, we absolutely recognize the impact that PSPS events 00:18:47.930 --> 00:18:50.610 have on our customers and our communities. 00:18:50.610 --> 00:18:51.970 So many of us, including me, 00:18:51.970 --> 00:18:55.690 live within the high fire threat district. 00:18:55.690 --> 00:18:59.190 John, Tashonda and I don't just lead organizations 00:18:59.190 --> 00:19:01.630 that manage PSPS events, 00:19:01.630 --> 00:19:04.560 we are active in our emergency management teams 00:19:04.560 --> 00:19:06.570 and the final decision to de-energize 00:19:06.570 --> 00:19:08.770 based on our situational awareness 00:19:08.770 --> 00:19:11.380 and the risk to our communities is ours to make. 00:19:11.380 --> 00:19:13.870 That decision is not delegated. 00:19:13.870 --> 00:19:15.810 So we take that very seriously. 00:19:15.810 --> 00:19:18.390 In many cases, our colleagues are impacted 00:19:18.390 --> 00:19:19.970 by our own decision-making, 00:19:19.970 --> 00:19:22.150 but we do so as an absolute last resort 00:19:22.150 --> 00:19:25.060 to avoid catastrophic wildfires 00:19:25.060 --> 00:19:29.350 and we do understand the impacts to businesses, 00:19:29.350 --> 00:19:31.570 local and tribal governments, schools, 00:19:31.570 --> 00:19:34.030 and most vulnerable members of our communities 00:19:34.030 --> 00:19:35.760 and what I've really learned 00:19:35.760 --> 00:19:38.470 a great appreciation for at SDG&E. 00:19:38.470 --> 00:19:40.980 We've gained that understanding through very deep, 00:19:40.980 --> 00:19:43.360 meaningful engagements with our communities 00:19:43.360 --> 00:19:46.480 and we continue to grow and adjust our understanding 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:49.800 by growing that engagement and collaboration. 00:19:49.800 --> 00:19:51.310 And while we do appreciate the fact 00:19:51.310 --> 00:19:54.200 that there were no utility related wildfires 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:57.360 within the SDG&E territory over the past two years, 00:19:57.360 --> 00:20:00.920 our culture simply does not allow those positive outcomes 00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:04.040 to slow down our focus on continuous improvement 00:20:04.040 --> 00:20:05.530 or to challenge ourselves 00:20:05.530 --> 00:20:07.800 to serve our customers and communities better. 00:20:07.800 --> 00:20:10.850 That is an everyday living experience with SDG&E. 00:20:10.850 --> 00:20:13.690 And that culture has been achieved through experience, 00:20:13.690 --> 00:20:15.080 through lessons learned 00:20:15.080 --> 00:20:18.020 and by organizational design and leadership. 00:20:18.020 --> 00:20:20.920 We are goal-driven, we include safety goals 00:20:20.920 --> 00:20:22.860 and public safety goals, including goals 00:20:22.860 --> 00:20:25.370 that improve our PSPS preparedness 00:20:25.370 --> 00:20:28.350 that reduces scope, duration and impact. 00:20:28.350 --> 00:20:31.170 And Caroline, including through our board of directors, 00:20:31.170 --> 00:20:33.840 has created an organization at SDG&E 00:20:33.840 --> 00:20:36.780 that assures all of our colleagues that there are no, 00:20:36.780 --> 00:20:39.140 and never can be, any shortcuts, 00:20:39.140 --> 00:20:41.560 regarding safety, including public safety 00:20:41.560 --> 00:20:44.840 and it is a value we live every day in all that we do, 00:20:44.840 --> 00:20:47.073 not just in PSPS. 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:50.023 Next slide, please. 00:20:53.870 --> 00:20:55.520 Our Wildfire Risk Management Plans 00:20:55.520 --> 00:20:58.140 detail the planning behind our obligation 00:20:58.140 --> 00:20:59.950 to manage grid responsibly, 00:20:59.950 --> 00:21:01.830 but also to manage the safety and wellbeing 00:21:01.830 --> 00:21:04.220 of our customers and our communities. 00:21:04.220 --> 00:21:06.010 It does detail our plans to leverage 00:21:06.010 --> 00:21:08.050 and enhance our situational awareness, 00:21:08.050 --> 00:21:10.190 our grid hardening efforts, and our plans 00:21:10.190 --> 00:21:13.220 to improve the scope, duration, and impact from PSPS, 00:21:13.220 --> 00:21:16.530 including our ability to execute as a last resort. 00:21:16.530 --> 00:21:19.520 It also assures our customers and communities 00:21:19.520 --> 00:21:23.170 are provided enough notice and detail to be prepared. 00:21:23.170 --> 00:21:25.150 Over the past year, we have enhanced 00:21:25.150 --> 00:21:27.000 our capabilities of preparedness. 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:28.650 You'll hear some of those today. 00:21:28.650 --> 00:21:32.230 We do that through intense collaboration and communication 00:21:32.230 --> 00:21:35.780 via feedback from customers, public safety partners, 00:21:35.780 --> 00:21:39.610 town halls, open houses, community fairs, and especially 00:21:39.610 --> 00:21:42.363 our Wildfire Safety Community Advisory Council, 00:21:44.580 --> 00:21:46.290 all or most of which of those 00:21:46.290 --> 00:21:48.230 had to be virtual this past year, 00:21:48.230 --> 00:21:50.950 including our community resource centers, 00:21:50.950 --> 00:21:53.140 without any loss in effectiveness, 00:21:53.140 --> 00:21:54.770 without any loss in learning 00:21:54.770 --> 00:21:57.930 and certainly without any loss in feedback to improve. 00:21:57.930 --> 00:22:00.612 We could not get better without that feedback, 00:22:00.612 --> 00:22:03.612 that engagement and that collaboration with our communities. 00:22:04.950 --> 00:22:08.260 No matter the experience and expertise of our team, 00:22:08.260 --> 00:22:13.090 the most important part of our PSPS preparation is to train, 00:22:13.090 --> 00:22:17.100 practice and drill so that we are working cohesively 00:22:17.100 --> 00:22:19.420 and effectively when the time approaches 00:22:19.420 --> 00:22:22.970 to inform our communities of a pending 00:22:22.970 --> 00:22:27.220 fire weather risk and PSPS risk. 00:22:27.220 --> 00:22:30.830 And we do this so to afford our customers, 00:22:30.830 --> 00:22:32.640 our communities and our public safety partners, 00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:35.750 the greatest of time for preparation. 00:22:35.750 --> 00:22:37.780 Having joined the company last July, 00:22:37.780 --> 00:22:41.640 being thrust into what was a very remarkable fire season 00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:43.340 and low curtailment season, 00:22:43.340 --> 00:22:45.940 I can tell you the intensity of preparation, 00:22:45.940 --> 00:22:47.925 the resiliency of the team at SDG&E 00:22:47.925 --> 00:22:49.600 has been very impressive. 00:22:49.600 --> 00:22:53.490 While I spent years learning how SDG&E manages this risk, 00:22:53.490 --> 00:22:54.883 actually being embedded with it 00:22:54.883 --> 00:22:58.083 just was really an eyeopening experience. 00:22:58.083 --> 00:23:00.520 If I can go to my last slide, please. 00:23:02.839 --> 00:23:05.209 I think it's very important to highlight 00:23:05.209 --> 00:23:08.920 the continuous improvement journey at SDG&E. 00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:12.090 It has, since the beginning, really been about getting data 00:23:12.929 --> 00:23:15.040 and using the data to inform decision-making 00:23:15.040 --> 00:23:17.940 and to create the best awareness system possible 00:23:17.940 --> 00:23:19.670 for our customers, right? 00:23:19.670 --> 00:23:23.100 If the term fire safe, if you will, on this slide, 00:23:23.100 --> 00:23:26.190 it's like the version of a safety management system 00:23:26.190 --> 00:23:29.200 that we're using it SDG&E to keep communities safe 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:31.020 from catastrophic wildfires 00:23:31.020 --> 00:23:34.830 and to reduce the scope, duration and impacts on PSPS. 00:23:34.830 --> 00:23:38.230 It is incredible to think back in 2008, 00:23:38.230 --> 00:23:42.030 SDG&E was using field personnel with handheld devices 00:23:42.030 --> 00:23:43.250 in the field to capture 00:23:43.250 --> 00:23:46.240 real-time meteorological information, 00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:48.230 but critical foundations were laid then, 00:23:48.230 --> 00:23:50.570 with at that early work to collect data. 00:23:50.570 --> 00:23:51.930 We knew we needed more data. 00:23:51.930 --> 00:23:54.930 So really, what happened was the creation 00:23:54.930 --> 00:23:57.210 of the greatest meteorological network 00:23:57.210 --> 00:23:59.970 and a great team of meteorologists was formed 00:23:59.970 --> 00:24:03.350 and was the creation of our aerial services division. 00:24:03.350 --> 00:24:05.930 And so starting back in 2011, 00:24:05.930 --> 00:24:09.010 the investment in that meteorological situational awareness 00:24:09.010 --> 00:24:11.940 started to pay off, it created modeling 00:24:11.940 --> 00:24:15.030 and created our very first weather alerts. 00:24:15.030 --> 00:24:17.390 It also gave us an understanding 00:24:17.390 --> 00:24:21.030 of precisely where we needed to harden our system 00:24:21.030 --> 00:24:24.510 and the creation of PSPS came at that time 00:24:24.510 --> 00:24:27.726 and that was because our new modeling could show 00:24:27.726 --> 00:24:31.850 that there was the potential of catastrophic wildfire risk 00:24:31.850 --> 00:24:35.880 if we operate our systems above certain wind thresholds 00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:38.048 when fire weather was present. 00:24:38.048 --> 00:24:40.930 In our most recent history is Fire Safe 3.0, 00:24:41.790 --> 00:24:43.720 it's increased our situational awareness, 00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:46.080 our modeling and predictive tools. 00:24:46.080 --> 00:24:48.640 It introduced AI and the ability 00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:51.460 to more precisely predict fire weather risks 00:24:51.460 --> 00:24:54.380 and also brought forward an explosion in data 00:24:54.380 --> 00:24:58.170 as we moved from 10-minute reads to 30-second reads, 00:24:58.170 --> 00:25:00.300 and it's important to note what that does. 00:25:00.300 --> 00:25:03.660 All that data informs everything we do, 00:25:03.660 --> 00:25:05.107 from forecasting to how we alert 00:25:05.107 --> 00:25:08.020 our customers and communities to providing focus 00:25:08.020 --> 00:25:11.800 on exactly where PSPS scope, duration and impact 00:25:11.800 --> 00:25:14.130 can be positively impacted 00:25:14.130 --> 00:25:16.410 via our grid hardening projects, it matters. 00:25:16.410 --> 00:25:19.240 John will walk you through your first look 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:21.650 at the tool last year, how it's evolved this year 00:25:21.650 --> 00:25:24.930 to actually drill in and provide greater attention 00:25:24.930 --> 00:25:28.550 to projects and details that can reduce PSPS. 00:25:28.550 --> 00:25:32.020 And really that takes us to today and it should be expected, 00:25:32.020 --> 00:25:35.750 it really is about data, it's more real-time data. 00:25:35.750 --> 00:25:38.360 It's about knowing actual real-time conditions 00:25:38.360 --> 00:25:39.690 of fuel on the ground. 00:25:39.690 --> 00:25:41.130 It's about better modeling 00:25:41.130 --> 00:25:43.410 and it's using that data and modeling to impact 00:25:43.410 --> 00:25:46.170 where and how we think about grid hardening. 00:25:46.170 --> 00:25:49.690 Precisely knowing where undergrounding and covered conductor 00:25:49.690 --> 00:25:50.890 will have the greatest reduction 00:25:50.890 --> 00:25:53.287 in PSPS scope, duration and impact, 00:25:53.287 --> 00:25:55.850 and John will walk through some of that. 00:25:55.850 --> 00:25:59.530 I will also point out that we'll have, 00:25:59.530 --> 00:26:01.930 John will present some high level focus 00:26:01.930 --> 00:26:05.280 on specific elements of our wildfire mitigation plan 00:26:05.280 --> 00:26:07.140 that specifically shows where we're reducing 00:26:07.140 --> 00:26:10.880 scope, duration and impact of PSPS in 2021. 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:12.550 And before handing it off to John, 00:26:12.550 --> 00:26:15.710 I thought I would pose there and take any questions. 00:26:15.710 --> 00:26:18.790 Otherwise I'd ask John to walk us through 00:26:18.790 --> 00:26:20.880 some of the specific acts we're taking 00:26:22.140 --> 00:26:23.340 with the grid this year. 00:26:27.620 --> 00:26:29.010 Okay great, I don't see any hands up. 00:26:29.010 --> 00:26:29.930 John, if you wouldn't mind, 00:26:29.930 --> 00:26:31.633 take us through the next slide. 00:26:32.730 --> 00:26:34.100 All right, thank you Kevin, 00:26:34.100 --> 00:26:35.107 if we could advance to the next slide 00:26:35.107 --> 00:26:37.274 and I just want to do a quick sound check 00:26:37.274 --> 00:26:38.983 to make sure that people can hear me. 00:26:40.410 --> 00:26:42.040 We can hear you fine. 00:26:42.040 --> 00:26:44.486 All right. Thank you much. 00:26:44.486 --> 00:26:47.560 And great segue Kevin and you're right, 00:26:47.560 --> 00:26:49.420 there are situational awareness 00:26:49.420 --> 00:26:52.010 that we've developed over the course of the past decade 00:26:52.010 --> 00:26:55.000 is really foundational for everything that we do. 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:58.270 I'm going to start off by walking us through a risk model 00:26:58.270 --> 00:27:00.880 that informs not only our mitigation activities, 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.530 but also our PSPS decision-making 00:27:03.530 --> 00:27:06.493 heading into this fire season. 00:27:09.220 --> 00:27:11.450 Starting with the left, these are the different inputs 00:27:11.450 --> 00:27:13.240 of how we look at wildfire risk 00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:17.270 and there are obviously the combination of likelihood 00:27:17.270 --> 00:27:21.390 and consequence that develop an overall wildfire risk score. 00:27:21.390 --> 00:27:24.370 The model takes information from our weather network, 00:27:24.370 --> 00:27:27.210 our electric system, our vegetation database, 00:27:27.210 --> 00:27:28.520 and our fire models. 00:27:28.520 --> 00:27:30.770 This allows us to calculate the wildfire risk score 00:27:30.770 --> 00:27:33.960 based on the likelihood and consequence of certain events 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:35.970 taking, for example, our fuels and terrain 00:27:35.970 --> 00:27:39.200 in our fire model, predictive fire model, 00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:41.600 will affect the consequence. 00:27:41.600 --> 00:27:43.800 The wind speeds that we anticipate 00:27:43.800 --> 00:27:46.700 will affect both the likelihood and consequence 00:27:46.700 --> 00:27:48.003 of a negative event. 00:27:48.940 --> 00:27:51.410 The system miles on a particular segment, 00:27:51.410 --> 00:27:53.230 obviously if there's more miles of circuit, 00:27:53.230 --> 00:27:55.640 there's a higher likelihood of an event. 00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:57.440 But these things are the inputs 00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:00.090 that go into the wildfire risk score 00:28:00.090 --> 00:28:02.149 and one thing that we've incorporated 00:28:02.149 --> 00:28:05.280 in improving this risk modeling tool 00:28:05.280 --> 00:28:06.460 over the course of the past year 00:28:06.460 --> 00:28:09.003 is including the risk of PSPS. 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:12.500 As it's been mentioned in the meeting thus far, 00:28:12.500 --> 00:28:14.220 it is a measure of last resort, 00:28:14.220 --> 00:28:15.890 and although it does help 00:28:15.890 --> 00:28:18.005 with the mitigation of wildfire risk, 00:28:18.005 --> 00:28:20.760 it is not void of risk itself 00:28:20.760 --> 00:28:23.540 so we want to capture that as well. 00:28:23.540 --> 00:28:26.523 So we have the different inputs on the right side here. 00:28:28.180 --> 00:28:31.930 Wind speeds will affect the likelihood of a PSPS event. 00:28:31.930 --> 00:28:33.910 The projected duration will affect 00:28:33.910 --> 00:28:37.210 the likelihood and the consequence. 00:28:37.210 --> 00:28:40.190 The type of customers that we have on a particular segment 00:28:40.190 --> 00:28:43.310 will also affect the likelihood and consequence, 00:28:43.310 --> 00:28:45.580 but these scores are combined 00:28:45.580 --> 00:28:47.967 and then this is what has really started our transition 00:28:47.967 --> 00:28:50.160 of our wildfire mitigation efforts 00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:52.590 from what we were doing to what we've seen 00:28:52.590 --> 00:28:56.990 in our 2021 WMP update and what you'll see going forward. 00:28:56.990 --> 00:28:59.730 And so you can see the different combinations 00:28:59.730 --> 00:29:02.680 we have in our three-year WMP plan right now, 00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:05.260 in terms of the miles of hardening. 00:29:05.260 --> 00:29:06.768 You can see a large transition 00:29:06.768 --> 00:29:08.890 to covered conductor and underground. 00:29:08.890 --> 00:29:13.850 So in some of our less weather severe areas, 00:29:13.850 --> 00:29:15.250 you're going to see more covered conductor 00:29:15.250 --> 00:29:18.890 because that will mitigate the risk and the PSPS risk 00:29:18.890 --> 00:29:21.160 as you get into some of the worst parts 00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.300 of tier three and where we have 00:29:23.300 --> 00:29:24.900 some of the worst wildfire risk, 00:29:24.900 --> 00:29:28.370 undergrounding is going to be the best solution. 00:29:28.370 --> 00:29:31.770 So this is the risk model that is used to inform 00:29:31.770 --> 00:29:33.010 our mitigation strategies, 00:29:33.010 --> 00:29:35.410 which I'm going to be going over here in a second, 00:29:35.410 --> 00:29:37.960 but wanted to start with this discussion because it's also 00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:40.993 going to lead into our PSPS decision framework. 00:29:41.890 --> 00:29:43.033 Next slide please. 00:29:45.810 --> 00:29:48.710 We have nearly 60 wildfire mitigation activities 00:29:48.710 --> 00:29:49.940 in our welfare mitigation plan, 00:29:49.940 --> 00:29:51.657 so obviously I'm not going to go over all of those, 00:29:51.657 --> 00:29:55.120 but I'm going to cover some of the main ones here 00:29:55.120 --> 00:29:56.530 that help from an overall 00:29:56.530 --> 00:29:58.300 public safety power shutoff perspective, 00:29:58.300 --> 00:30:02.560 and a wildfire risk reduction perspective. 00:30:02.560 --> 00:30:03.770 We have grid hardening. 00:30:03.770 --> 00:30:06.960 So this is a combination of traditional hardening, 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:09.810 covered conductor and undergrounding. 00:30:09.810 --> 00:30:11.830 In our higher fire threat district 00:30:11.830 --> 00:30:13.250 at San Diego Gas and Electric, 00:30:13.250 --> 00:30:16.573 we have 3,500 miles of overhead infrastructure. 00:30:17.630 --> 00:30:21.790 We started hardening our distribution system in 2014, 00:30:21.790 --> 00:30:25.210 so since that time we've hardened 755 miles 00:30:25.210 --> 00:30:29.300 of our distribution system, or nearly 22%. 00:30:29.300 --> 00:30:31.470 We have another 155 miles 00:30:31.470 --> 00:30:32.890 that we're targeted to do this year, 00:30:32.890 --> 00:30:35.700 we're just about halfway done 00:30:35.700 --> 00:30:37.949 with that work for this year 00:30:37.949 --> 00:30:40.520 and that's the combination of covered underground 00:30:40.520 --> 00:30:44.460 and traditional hardening that we saw on the previous slide. 00:30:44.460 --> 00:30:48.330 We have a host of other equipment replacement programs 00:30:48.330 --> 00:30:50.930 where we're replacing higher risk equipment 00:30:50.930 --> 00:30:52.690 in the high fire threat district, 00:30:52.690 --> 00:30:55.590 expulsion fuses being one example, 00:30:55.590 --> 00:30:58.640 capacitor banks, lightning arresters, 00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:01.050 and so this example that's shown on the slide 00:31:01.050 --> 00:31:03.280 is our expulsion fuse replacements. 00:31:03.280 --> 00:31:07.200 This is replacing a device that, by design, 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:09.520 has an arc when it operates. 00:31:09.520 --> 00:31:13.930 Replacing these with a Cal FIRE fuse reduces that arc, 00:31:13.930 --> 00:31:18.930 obviously reducing the possibility of an ignition. 00:31:19.050 --> 00:31:21.790 So we have a little over 11,000 installations 00:31:21.790 --> 00:31:22.870 in our high fire threat district, 00:31:22.870 --> 00:31:24.810 we've already replaced over 7,800, 00:31:24.810 --> 00:31:28.050 we will be close to being complete 00:31:28.050 --> 00:31:29.780 by the end of this year, if not complete. 00:31:29.780 --> 00:31:32.483 Right now, we're 70.5% complete with those. 00:31:33.490 --> 00:31:35.140 The sectionalizing devices, 00:31:35.140 --> 00:31:37.490 working our way down the slide here, 00:31:37.490 --> 00:31:39.910 you can see 10 of those installed this year. 00:31:39.910 --> 00:31:42.800 That might not seem like a significant number, 00:31:42.800 --> 00:31:45.160 but this is just part of our continuous learning process. 00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:47.507 Every year we go into our fire season, 00:31:47.507 --> 00:31:50.080 and we find out things and learn things 00:31:50.080 --> 00:31:51.540 from the events that we went into 00:31:51.540 --> 00:31:53.620 and identify areas where it would be nice 00:31:53.620 --> 00:31:55.600 to have additional weather stations 00:31:55.600 --> 00:31:58.180 or sectionalizing devices to be even more specific 00:31:58.180 --> 00:32:01.840 and make the best decisions for our customers, 00:32:01.840 --> 00:32:03.450 in those particular cases. 00:32:03.450 --> 00:32:05.530 But you can see since 2014, 00:32:05.530 --> 00:32:08.817 we've installed 870 sectionalizing devices in our system 00:32:08.817 --> 00:32:10.730 and this is what allows us, 00:32:10.730 --> 00:32:12.330 in conjunction with the weather network, 00:32:12.330 --> 00:32:16.320 to be so precise and only shut off the customers 00:32:16.320 --> 00:32:19.343 that are seeing the risk at that particular time. 00:32:21.280 --> 00:32:23.930 Moving down, for our enhanced vegetation management, 00:32:23.930 --> 00:32:28.930 we have 465,000 trees that we inspect, monitor, 00:32:29.270 --> 00:32:33.760 trim, remove, but our enhanced vegetation management program 00:32:33.760 --> 00:32:36.890 is looking at five more problematic species, 00:32:36.890 --> 00:32:40.280 eucalyptus, palm, pine, oak, and sycamore, 00:32:40.280 --> 00:32:42.180 are ones that traditionally 00:32:42.180 --> 00:32:45.250 have affected the electric system more. 00:32:45.250 --> 00:32:48.430 We have 81,000 of those in our service territory. 00:32:48.430 --> 00:32:51.740 We started our enhanced program in 2019. 00:32:51.740 --> 00:32:55.412 We've already trimmed or removed to a greater clearance 00:32:55.412 --> 00:33:00.412 28,781 trees, we're targeting another 17,000 this year, 00:33:01.300 --> 00:33:05.500 and I should have started that we have 12 foot of clearance 00:33:05.500 --> 00:33:07.610 in all of our locations in the HFTD. 00:33:07.610 --> 00:33:10.300 So the enhanced vegetation management program 00:33:10.300 --> 00:33:14.430 is really for those targeted species going up to 25 feet, 00:33:14.430 --> 00:33:17.193 depending on the situation and circumstances. 00:33:18.170 --> 00:33:20.017 Moving over to situational awareness, 00:33:20.017 --> 00:33:21.570 Kevin covered this pretty well, 00:33:21.570 --> 00:33:23.410 with how important this is and as I mentioned, 00:33:23.410 --> 00:33:26.030 it's really foundational for everything that we do, 00:33:26.030 --> 00:33:29.750 but over a hundred cameras and 220 weather stations, 00:33:29.750 --> 00:33:30.890 most of these weather stations 00:33:30.890 --> 00:33:33.540 we have a decades worth of weather data, 00:33:33.540 --> 00:33:35.650 we've implemented machine learning 00:33:35.650 --> 00:33:40.650 and artificially intelligence fueled weather forecasts. 00:33:41.080 --> 00:33:43.600 Our weather network is extremely accurate. 00:33:43.600 --> 00:33:46.140 It's really helpful to help us make decisions 00:33:46.140 --> 00:33:48.390 in the PSPS decision-making process, 00:33:48.390 --> 00:33:50.973 which I'll cover in another slide here. 00:33:52.580 --> 00:33:54.520 And then our generator programs, 00:33:54.520 --> 00:33:56.160 there's three different types. 00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:59.570 We have the medical baseline generator grant program. 00:33:59.570 --> 00:34:03.220 So this is where we provide our medical baseline customers 00:34:03.220 --> 00:34:04.520 in the high fire threat district 00:34:04.520 --> 00:34:06.970 with a portable battery storage unit 00:34:06.970 --> 00:34:09.910 that has a portable-type panel that goes along with it 00:34:09.910 --> 00:34:11.760 so they can charge it during the day. 00:34:12.610 --> 00:34:15.920 We rolled out over 1200 of those last year, 00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:18.830 we're doing over another 2000 this year. 00:34:18.830 --> 00:34:20.040 We got all of our units rolled out 00:34:20.040 --> 00:34:21.410 by September 1st last year, 00:34:21.410 --> 00:34:22.760 planning to do the same this year. 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:24.890 We do this all over the course of summer 00:34:24.890 --> 00:34:28.020 so we're hot and heavy on this program right now. 00:34:28.020 --> 00:34:33.020 A second program is our resiliency assistance program, 00:34:34.100 --> 00:34:37.547 and what this is, is for all customers in HFTD 00:34:38.401 --> 00:34:39.780 they go out and buy a generator, 00:34:39.780 --> 00:34:42.560 it's a rebate program that funds 50% 00:34:42.560 --> 00:34:45.740 of the generator purchase for qualifying purchases. 00:34:45.740 --> 00:34:48.520 For some of our low-income customers 00:34:48.520 --> 00:34:51.983 that are part of the CARE program, it's a 75% rebate. 00:34:53.310 --> 00:34:56.680 And then we have a fixed power backup program 00:34:56.680 --> 00:35:01.560 and these are for customers that the risk spend efficiency 00:35:01.560 --> 00:35:04.330 or the risk score doesn't really work out for them 00:35:04.330 --> 00:35:06.520 because there's like one customer 00:35:06.520 --> 00:35:08.170 on the end of a very long line, 00:35:08.170 --> 00:35:10.580 or a small handful of customers, 00:35:10.580 --> 00:35:14.900 it doesn't make sense to hardened miles 00:35:14.900 --> 00:35:16.630 of infrastructure for those customers 00:35:16.630 --> 00:35:19.210 so we're providing a permanent fixed power solution 00:35:19.210 --> 00:35:21.590 to mitigate their PSPS impacts, 00:35:21.590 --> 00:35:23.050 so we'll still be shutting off the main power, 00:35:23.050 --> 00:35:24.130 but their homes will be fueled 00:35:24.130 --> 00:35:27.320 by these fixed generator solutions. 00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:29.140 And those are our three generator programs 00:35:29.140 --> 00:35:34.140 that make up the target, that's 3663 for 2021 00:35:34.460 --> 00:35:36.617 and I'll be going over those in a little bit more detail 00:35:36.617 --> 00:35:41.360 on the next slide and then we do all kinds of inspections 00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:43.230 throughout the course of the year. 00:35:43.230 --> 00:35:44.450 Just want to highlight that one of 00:35:44.450 --> 00:35:48.060 the additional inspections that we have been doing 00:35:48.060 --> 00:35:49.550 over the course of the past couple of years 00:35:49.550 --> 00:35:52.250 is our drone inspection program. 00:35:52.250 --> 00:35:54.330 We got completely through tier three 00:35:54.330 --> 00:35:57.030 over the course of 2019 and '20. 00:35:57.030 --> 00:36:00.120 We're going to have a half of tier two done 00:36:00.120 --> 00:36:02.790 on our distribution system and we're also doing 00:36:02.790 --> 00:36:04.730 our transmissioning system over the course 00:36:04.730 --> 00:36:05.670 of the next two years. 00:36:05.670 --> 00:36:08.093 So, just wanted to mention those two programs. 00:36:09.043 --> 00:36:10.983 If we can move on to the next slide, please? 00:36:16.850 --> 00:36:19.560 So what does this mean in terms of reductions 00:36:19.560 --> 00:36:22.620 to our PSPS impacts? 00:36:22.620 --> 00:36:24.930 I mentioned the 10 sectionalizing devices 00:36:24.930 --> 00:36:28.110 that we identified, there's actually 5,000 customers 00:36:28.110 --> 00:36:30.690 associated with these 10 sectionalizing devices, 00:36:30.690 --> 00:36:33.160 so there would have been larger areas 00:36:33.160 --> 00:36:34.090 that would have been de-energized 00:36:34.090 --> 00:36:36.450 but we've identified some separate locations 00:36:36.450 --> 00:36:38.220 that may experience different weather patterns 00:36:38.220 --> 00:36:40.770 compared to the original segment, 00:36:40.770 --> 00:36:43.360 before the sectionalizing device was installed, 00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:46.100 so a possible reduction of 5,000 customers 00:36:46.100 --> 00:36:48.820 associated with those 10 sectionalizing devices. 00:36:48.820 --> 00:36:50.970 I talked about the fixed backup power solution, 00:36:50.970 --> 00:36:55.063 that's going in at 413 locations, so 413 customers. 00:36:56.110 --> 00:36:59.260 The resiliency grant program, 00:36:59.260 --> 00:37:02.770 this is the medical baseline generator grant program, 00:37:02.770 --> 00:37:06.880 2000 customers getting those by September 1st 00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:08.307 and then the resiliency assistance program, 00:37:08.307 --> 00:37:10.850 that's the rebate program that I described, 00:37:10.850 --> 00:37:13.470 targeting 1,250 customers, 00:37:13.470 --> 00:37:16.100 it's really up to how many people cash in the rebates, 00:37:16.100 --> 00:37:19.420 but that's what we're targeting to try and achieve 00:37:19.420 --> 00:37:22.713 before this fire season starts. 00:37:23.870 --> 00:37:26.743 We have five microgrids we're deploying, 00:37:27.900 --> 00:37:30.080 and that's a total of 1700 customers. 00:37:30.080 --> 00:37:32.100 I always like to reiterate with this though, 00:37:32.100 --> 00:37:37.100 it's not just the customers that are having power restored 00:37:37.740 --> 00:37:38.573 to their facilities, 00:37:38.573 --> 00:37:40.760 it's the type of customers that they are. 00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:43.600 These microgrids are typically in the town centers 00:37:43.600 --> 00:37:45.040 of some of these rural communities, 00:37:45.040 --> 00:37:49.310 so by undergrounding a minimal amount of infrastructure 00:37:49.310 --> 00:37:51.830 and keeping that infrastructure energized 00:37:51.830 --> 00:37:53.960 with the support of a microgrid 00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:57.910 for keeping grocery stores, gas stations, schools, 00:37:57.910 --> 00:38:01.700 urgent care centers, those sorts of things remain energized, 00:38:01.700 --> 00:38:04.820 so even if you're in an outlying area in your power, 00:38:04.820 --> 00:38:06.720 your house is not going to be able 00:38:06.720 --> 00:38:09.300 to be kept on because of risk, 00:38:09.300 --> 00:38:13.953 you have critical goods and services in a nearby location. 00:38:14.790 --> 00:38:17.200 And then I mentioned our transition to undergrounding 00:38:17.200 --> 00:38:20.600 over the course of the past two years, 00:38:20.600 --> 00:38:24.120 this has led to a reduction in 1,127 customers 00:38:24.120 --> 00:38:25.880 and we're going to see a lot more of that going forward, 00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:27.160 obviously with how much undergrounding 00:38:27.160 --> 00:38:29.403 you're going to be seeing in the coming years, 00:38:29.403 --> 00:38:34.210 about 1,127 that will see a PSPS impact reduction 00:38:34.210 --> 00:38:35.400 heading into this fire season. 00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.230 So, a little over 11,000 customers. 00:38:39.230 --> 00:38:42.670 To give that some perspective, Caroline Thomas Jacobs 00:38:42.670 --> 00:38:45.110 mentioned our PSPS events from last year, 00:38:45.110 --> 00:38:49.070 we did have 11 red flag warning events 00:38:49.070 --> 00:38:51.370 that affected our service territory last year. 00:38:52.500 --> 00:38:57.270 We ended up de-energizing for public safety power shut off 00:38:57.270 --> 00:38:58.630 in five of those 11 events, 00:38:58.630 --> 00:39:01.810 so six did not see any public safety power shut off. 00:39:01.810 --> 00:39:03.310 Two of the events were down 00:39:03.310 --> 00:39:05.793 in the a couple of hundred customer range. 00:39:06.640 --> 00:39:07.660 And then we had two events 00:39:07.660 --> 00:39:09.780 that were around 10,000 customers, 00:39:09.780 --> 00:39:12.020 just to give some perspective to this number here. 00:39:12.020 --> 00:39:14.020 And then we have the one really large event, 00:39:14.020 --> 00:39:18.610 at the beginning of December, that was 74,000 customers. 00:39:18.610 --> 00:39:21.710 So I wanted to provide some context for what we see 00:39:21.710 --> 00:39:24.477 in terms of PSPS mitigation reduction here 00:39:24.477 --> 00:39:28.203 and how that translates to what transpired last year. 00:39:29.380 --> 00:39:30.330 Next slide, please. 00:39:31.250 --> 00:39:33.325 Mr. Jenkins? Yes. 00:39:33.325 --> 00:39:36.080 I'm sorry, could you maybe go back? 00:39:36.080 --> 00:39:41.080 Do you have a similar reduction in PSPS events 00:39:42.970 --> 00:39:47.224 or were people impacted, maybe you can go back a slide, 00:39:47.224 --> 00:39:51.430 and you have in your previous set 00:39:51.430 --> 00:39:54.900 of grid hardening investments, 00:39:54.900 --> 00:39:58.870 you described both bare wire and covered conductor. 00:39:58.870 --> 00:40:02.690 Do you have the equivalencies here on how many, 00:40:02.690 --> 00:40:07.620 the reduction of estimated PSPS events and customers, 00:40:07.620 --> 00:40:10.230 and also, just as a sub question, 00:40:10.230 --> 00:40:13.853 what exactly is the mitigation tied to bare wire? 00:40:16.950 --> 00:40:20.810 So, the mitigation tied to bare wire 00:40:20.810 --> 00:40:24.240 would be, if we had an entire segment hardened, 00:40:24.240 --> 00:40:25.900 we would increase the threshold, 00:40:25.900 --> 00:40:28.740 therefore decreasing the likelihood of a PSPS events. 00:40:28.740 --> 00:40:31.940 So there there's a PSPS reduction there. 00:40:31.940 --> 00:40:34.170 But as I mentioned in our risk modeling slide, 00:40:34.170 --> 00:40:39.000 we're seeing the transition to covered and undergrounding 00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:41.890 to help mitigate this growing risk 00:40:41.890 --> 00:40:45.820 and further reduce the impacts of PSPS to our customers, 00:40:45.820 --> 00:40:47.923 as well as the overall wildfire risk. 00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:51.040 I'm sorry to not understand that, 00:40:51.040 --> 00:40:53.290 but maybe it shows my ignorance here, 00:40:53.290 --> 00:40:58.290 but what do you mean by hardening the bare wire? 00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:02.750 'Cause it's a distinction from a covered conductor. 00:41:02.750 --> 00:41:05.930 So what exactly is the mitigation then? 00:41:05.930 --> 00:41:08.560 Sure, when we go in and we say 00:41:08.560 --> 00:41:10.283 we hardened our system, 00:41:11.450 --> 00:41:14.770 we started off with just hardening our system 00:41:14.770 --> 00:41:16.120 with bare conductors, 00:41:16.120 --> 00:41:18.010 which is the way that all of the utilities 00:41:18.010 --> 00:41:20.240 have been building their distribution systems, 00:41:20.240 --> 00:41:22.180 but when I say we've hardened it, 00:41:22.180 --> 00:41:25.130 we go in and we make sure that all the facilities 00:41:25.130 --> 00:41:27.110 are designed to local known conditions. 00:41:27.110 --> 00:41:30.020 So for us, that's a minimum of 85 miles an hour 00:41:30.020 --> 00:41:31.650 in our high fire threat district, up to, 00:41:31.650 --> 00:41:34.963 we have facilities that are designed to 112 miles per hour. 00:41:36.160 --> 00:41:38.580 And so that's part of it. 00:41:38.580 --> 00:41:41.793 Also, we go in and increase the spacing, 00:41:43.430 --> 00:41:46.550 that provides less opportunity for debris 00:41:46.550 --> 00:41:49.530 or things to come in contact between the conductors 00:41:49.530 --> 00:41:50.933 if they're farther apart. 00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.420 And we also, as part of our hardening efforts, 00:41:54.420 --> 00:41:57.110 go in and as we rebuild the system, 00:41:57.110 --> 00:42:00.338 install protective sectionalizing devices 00:42:00.338 --> 00:42:02.940 that identify faults quicker 00:42:02.940 --> 00:42:05.580 and also limit the fault current that happens 00:42:05.580 --> 00:42:08.180 in the event that something comes in contact 00:42:08.180 --> 00:42:12.100 with the lines, a bird comes in contact with our lines 00:42:12.100 --> 00:42:14.433 or any sort of event happens, 00:42:15.486 --> 00:42:19.540 thus limiting the possibility of an ignition. 00:42:19.540 --> 00:42:24.540 And then also we are enabling the technology 00:42:25.140 --> 00:42:27.330 for deployment of our falling conductor protection 00:42:27.330 --> 00:42:30.130 and this will help with bare or covered conductor 00:42:30.130 --> 00:42:31.730 because if the conductor, 00:42:31.730 --> 00:42:33.430 somebody comes in contact with the line, 00:42:33.430 --> 00:42:35.790 if it's covered, if it comes down to the ground 00:42:35.790 --> 00:42:38.410 it has the possibility to start an ignition, 00:42:38.410 --> 00:42:41.670 except if it's de-energized before it hits the ground. 00:42:41.670 --> 00:42:43.850 So we are deploying the technology 00:42:43.850 --> 00:42:46.800 as we've been hardening the system that enables that. 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:47.633 One thing that we need 00:42:47.633 --> 00:42:49.150 for the falling conductor protection though, 00:42:49.150 --> 00:42:51.590 is also the deployment of our private LTE network, 00:42:51.590 --> 00:42:54.590 it's highly dependent upon high-speed communication 00:42:54.590 --> 00:42:55.790 for that to happen. 00:42:55.790 --> 00:42:58.290 I hope that answered the question a little better. 00:42:59.150 --> 00:43:02.470 Yes, so does all of the bare wire hardening 00:43:02.470 --> 00:43:07.180 have this falling conductor ability 00:43:07.180 --> 00:43:09.333 to shut off before it hits the ground? 00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:13.230 It does, we have to protect the devices 00:43:13.230 --> 00:43:17.210 installed out there that we've been deploying 00:43:17.210 --> 00:43:20.190 for a number of years as we've been hardening the system, 00:43:20.190 --> 00:43:23.630 so the devices and the technology is out there, 00:43:23.630 --> 00:43:26.860 but we need the backup communication 00:43:26.860 --> 00:43:28.950 that goes along with it 'cause it needs 00:43:28.950 --> 00:43:31.680 to make this decision in a matter of tenths of seconds 00:43:31.680 --> 00:43:34.310 and so it's really relying upon high-speed communication. 00:43:34.310 --> 00:43:36.090 And in our back country, 00:43:36.090 --> 00:43:38.760 we just don't have the communication available 00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:39.800 in most of these locations, 00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:42.970 which is why we're deploying our own private LTE network 00:43:42.970 --> 00:43:44.800 as part of our wildfire mitigation plan, 00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:46.800 and we have been for the past two years. 00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:49.233 Okay. 00:43:50.350 --> 00:43:52.280 Mr. Jenkins, while we're- 00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:53.707 I'm sorry, Commissioner Shiroma go ahead. 00:43:53.707 --> 00:43:56.657 Yes go ahead, okay Cliff you first, then I'll follow you. 00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:00.020 I was just gonna, if you go back up one slide, 00:44:00.020 --> 00:44:02.740 you have the number of generators that you provided, 00:44:02.740 --> 00:44:03.773 including to care customers. 00:44:03.773 --> 00:44:08.740 and you also have the number of fixed backup power, 00:44:08.740 --> 00:44:13.610 do you have a number of battery systems that you provided? 00:44:13.610 --> 00:44:16.550 I didn't see it in your slide 00:44:16.550 --> 00:44:18.563 that you sent to us in advance. 00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:22.480 Oh yeah, for ease of getting a lot of information 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:26.090 on this slide, the generator includes all three types. 00:44:26.090 --> 00:44:30.930 So for this year, there's roughly 400 fixed backup power, 00:44:30.930 --> 00:44:35.920 1200 generator rebates, and 2000, 00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:37.783 again, I'm using rough numbers here, 00:44:38.710 --> 00:44:42.240 medical baseline battery storage units. 00:44:42.240 --> 00:44:44.610 And does that allow you to, 00:44:44.610 --> 00:44:46.740 have you reached with that number 00:44:46.740 --> 00:44:51.740 all medical baseline customers in high fire threat areas, 00:44:52.910 --> 00:44:55.820 I don't know if you define that as tier two, tier three, 00:44:55.820 --> 00:44:58.950 but does that meet your goal for the universe 00:44:58.950 --> 00:45:03.950 of impacted customers who need these backup power solutions? 00:45:05.040 --> 00:45:07.667 Yeah, you can see that the 2806 number to the right, 00:45:07.667 --> 00:45:10.980 that's the numbers that have been deployed in past years, 00:45:10.980 --> 00:45:15.980 that number plus the 3663, every medical baseline customer 00:45:17.490 --> 00:45:19.610 that has experienced a PSPS outage 00:45:19.610 --> 00:45:21.729 has been given the opportunity, at least, 00:45:21.729 --> 00:45:25.440 to receive the battery storage unit. 00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:27.370 And we ended up having a pretty high acceptance rate, 00:45:27.370 --> 00:45:29.940 we're up in the mid 80s, we have about 85% 00:45:29.940 --> 00:45:32.453 of those customers take us up on our offer. 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.323 Thank you. Yep, you bet. 00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:40.970 Quick question, hopefully a quick question, Mr. Jenkins, 00:45:40.970 --> 00:45:43.223 this has to do with your WiNGS model, 00:45:44.130 --> 00:45:49.130 by the way, I'm reading about (indistinct) my interest, 00:45:49.630 --> 00:45:51.660 but your WiNGS model, here's my question, 00:45:51.660 --> 00:45:54.280 it's almost like (indistinct) one-on-one. 00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:59.280 can you tell me how your WiNGS model 00:46:01.530 --> 00:46:06.140 should be viewed juxtapose with the react modeling 00:46:06.140 --> 00:46:07.963 and the silver modeling? 00:46:09.090 --> 00:46:10.283 What is the context? 00:46:13.270 --> 00:46:15.683 I'm not sure I understand the question. 00:46:18.661 --> 00:46:22.240 Do, for example, the silver model, 00:46:22.240 --> 00:46:27.200 I think I read somewhere that you all are relying on that, 00:46:27.200 --> 00:46:30.820 does that feed into your WiNGS model 00:46:30.820 --> 00:46:35.820 in terms of identifying the specific areas of highest risk 00:46:36.209 --> 00:46:38.950 and what you need for, 00:46:38.950 --> 00:46:41.039 whether it's covered conductor, undergrounding, 00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:43.060 (audio glitch) 00:46:43.060 --> 00:46:45.973 or is no relationship at all? 00:46:47.260 --> 00:46:50.880 No no, you'll see on the bottom left input 00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.640 on the wildfire risk score side, 00:46:53.640 --> 00:46:57.280 that is really our fire propagation modeling. 00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:00.540 So that definitely impacts the consequence 00:47:00.540 --> 00:47:03.860 and so as we go through and analyze segment by segment, 00:47:03.860 --> 00:47:05.960 we use that information to feed into this 00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:10.270 that will provide the consequence portion 00:47:10.270 --> 00:47:12.453 of the wildfire risk score. 00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:15.580 So it definitely is complimentary. 00:47:16.495 --> 00:47:19.063 Okay, okay. Complimentary, all right. 00:47:19.063 --> 00:47:20.113 All right, thank you. 00:47:22.100 --> 00:47:23.710 President Batjer, since we're stopped here, 00:47:23.710 --> 00:47:25.960 can I ask you a quick question on this topic? 00:47:28.460 --> 00:47:31.030 Yes of course, please. Thank you. 00:47:31.030 --> 00:47:32.320 Talking about the wind modeling 00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:35.730 and even the covered circuits, if I'm not mistaken, 00:47:35.730 --> 00:47:38.560 last year during the presentation, 00:47:38.560 --> 00:47:41.010 you guys made comments along the lines 00:47:41.010 --> 00:47:42.780 of that you were under development 00:47:42.780 --> 00:47:46.260 and looking at how wind thresholds would change 00:47:46.260 --> 00:47:49.470 in your PSPS modeling with the new mitigations 00:47:49.470 --> 00:47:52.013 that are underway, such as covered conductor, 00:47:53.175 --> 00:47:55.550 installments on partially covered circuits. 00:47:55.550 --> 00:47:59.410 So just curious if you've changed any of those 00:47:59.410 --> 00:48:02.970 actual models or wind thresholds because of the work 00:48:02.970 --> 00:48:04.970 that you've now been able to accomplish? 00:48:06.006 --> 00:48:07.500 Actually, I'm going to be getting to 00:48:07.500 --> 00:48:10.467 our PSPS decision framework and in a couple of slides 00:48:10.467 --> 00:48:12.900 and it might be a good opportunity 00:48:12.900 --> 00:48:15.050 to discuss that then, if you wouldn't mind. 00:48:15.940 --> 00:48:17.350 Yeah. Sounds good, thanks. 00:48:17.350 --> 00:48:18.570 Okay. 00:48:18.570 --> 00:48:20.700 President Batjer, is it okay if I ask a quick question 00:48:20.700 --> 00:48:23.743 on the slide six on the grid hardening? 00:48:24.940 --> 00:48:27.260 Please go ahead, Commissioner Houck. 00:48:27.260 --> 00:48:28.600 Thank you. 00:48:28.600 --> 00:48:33.130 On the top line on the high fire district hardening, 00:48:33.130 --> 00:48:38.130 the 755 miles, how much of the 755 is covered conductor 00:48:38.690 --> 00:48:40.555 and how much is undergrounding 00:48:40.555 --> 00:48:44.380 and of the 3,500, how much are you anticipating 00:48:44.380 --> 00:48:47.573 will be covered conductor and how much undergrounding? 00:48:50.250 --> 00:48:53.880 So right now, obviously we started in 2014 00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:57.360 with just traditional hardening and up until just last year 00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.950 started to shift towards covered conductor 00:48:59.950 --> 00:49:04.210 and undergrounding, so we did 25 miles last year. 00:49:04.210 --> 00:49:06.160 We only did a couple of miles of undergrounding 00:49:06.160 --> 00:49:09.770 the year before, and we're doing another 25 miles this year, 00:49:09.770 --> 00:49:11.810 which we're halfway complete with. 00:49:11.810 --> 00:49:16.256 So right now we're around 40 miles of undergrounding 00:49:16.256 --> 00:49:19.650 and this is our, we did a couple of miles 00:49:19.650 --> 00:49:23.920 of covered conductor as part of a pilot last year, 00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:25.610 and we're doing 20 miles this year, 00:49:25.610 --> 00:49:28.693 which we're just about halfway complete with. 00:49:30.380 --> 00:49:33.573 And then if you go back to one slide before this, 00:49:35.270 --> 00:49:37.263 you can see right now the, 00:49:38.466 --> 00:49:39.990 and I should have said the acronym, 00:49:39.990 --> 00:49:41.970 it's wildfire next-generation systems, 00:49:41.970 --> 00:49:43.600 so that's what WiNGS stands for, 00:49:43.600 --> 00:49:46.710 but our WiNGS model has us undergrounding 00:49:46.710 --> 00:49:48.733 an additional 880 miles. 00:49:49.870 --> 00:49:52.610 That's past our current three-year plan, 00:49:52.610 --> 00:49:55.793 and then an 833 miles of covered conductor. 00:49:59.010 --> 00:49:59.843 Thank you. 00:50:01.187 --> 00:50:04.110 And if we're stopped, asking some questions, 00:50:04.110 --> 00:50:06.550 I'm going to jump in and ask one as well. 00:50:06.550 --> 00:50:09.980 And that is, that it doesn't appear 00:50:09.980 --> 00:50:14.980 that you're very far along on your EVM target for 2021, 00:50:15.630 --> 00:50:17.493 which of course is pressing upon us. 00:50:19.470 --> 00:50:22.410 Not that we all, I'm not saying that we all embrace 00:50:22.410 --> 00:50:25.580 and think it's the best strategy particularly, 00:50:25.580 --> 00:50:28.403 but what is your plan to catch up on your target? 00:50:29.690 --> 00:50:32.890 And if you're going to cover that in future slides 00:50:32.890 --> 00:50:34.820 and find that you handle it 00:50:34.820 --> 00:50:37.610 when you talk more about the PSPS. 00:50:37.610 --> 00:50:38.443 Yeah President Batjer, 00:50:38.443 --> 00:50:40.463 which program were you referring to? 00:50:41.460 --> 00:50:44.203 The vegetation management. 00:50:46.040 --> 00:50:47.320 Oh, okay. 00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:48.203 The EVM. 00:50:50.420 --> 00:50:53.280 So enhanced vegetation management, gotcha. 00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:57.000 Yeah, we plan to try, I mean, a lot of this 00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:01.360 is dependent upon working with customer land owners 00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:04.070 and property owners because we don't have 00:51:04.070 --> 00:51:07.670 the legal authority to go to the clearances that we want to, 00:51:07.670 --> 00:51:09.050 so it really is dependent upon us 00:51:09.050 --> 00:51:10.740 to work with the customers. 00:51:10.740 --> 00:51:14.100 So we try and get through this as quickly as we can 00:51:14.100 --> 00:51:15.710 and explain to customers the benefits 00:51:15.710 --> 00:51:17.430 of what we're trying to do. 00:51:17.430 --> 00:51:19.620 We did do 17,000 last year. 00:51:19.620 --> 00:51:24.620 So, confident that we'll be able to get to 17,000 this year. 00:51:24.740 --> 00:51:28.930 We do do the inspections in the first part of the year, 00:51:28.930 --> 00:51:31.920 so we can get most of the trends and clearances done 00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:34.890 by fire season, in our high fire threat district. 00:51:34.890 --> 00:51:36.980 So there's a lot of trimming and clearances 00:51:36.980 --> 00:51:38.570 going on right now, so I would imagine 00:51:38.570 --> 00:51:40.990 that we're going to be catching up a lot 00:51:40.990 --> 00:51:44.240 over the next month or so with that number, 00:51:44.240 --> 00:51:47.930 that's at 6944 right now, is that what you're referring to? 00:51:47.930 --> 00:51:49.013 Yes. Okay. 00:51:50.507 --> 00:51:54.530 And there's very little time to do the catch-up, so okay. 00:51:54.530 --> 00:51:56.860 Are there any other questions since we've interrupted 00:51:56.860 --> 00:51:59.253 the presentation at this point? 00:52:00.610 --> 00:52:02.683 Okay, please carry on. 00:52:04.275 --> 00:52:05.753 All right, I think we're, 00:52:06.600 --> 00:52:10.610 this is just transitioning to the next slide, slide eight. 00:52:10.610 --> 00:52:13.513 Which is slide eight. Yes, that's right. 00:52:14.590 --> 00:52:16.260 And so hopefully this provides 00:52:16.260 --> 00:52:18.240 the level of thoughtfulness and detail 00:52:18.240 --> 00:52:20.490 that you wanted in your opening remarks, President Batjer, 00:52:20.490 --> 00:52:22.650 but we really want to let people know 00:52:22.650 --> 00:52:27.110 how the PSPS decision process works at SDG&E. 00:52:27.110 --> 00:52:31.300 So, very much reliant upon the situational awareness tool 00:52:31.300 --> 00:52:34.050 that Mr. Geraghty opened up with, 00:52:34.050 --> 00:52:36.640 there's other tools that we've developed 00:52:36.640 --> 00:52:38.700 or used over the course of the past few years, 00:52:38.700 --> 00:52:41.940 our fire potential index is a key tool, 00:52:41.940 --> 00:52:44.440 we have the Santa Ana wildfire threat index 00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:48.160 of red flag warnings, but one of the reasons 00:52:48.160 --> 00:52:51.780 I started with how we evaluate the risk scores 00:52:51.780 --> 00:52:55.140 for both wildfire risk and PSPS risk going forward, 00:52:55.140 --> 00:52:56.730 was to talk about our mitigation strategies, 00:52:56.730 --> 00:52:59.740 but also this is going to be going into 00:52:59.740 --> 00:53:03.244 informing our PSPS decision-making process. 00:53:03.244 --> 00:53:05.610 So we're going to have, on a segment by segment basis, 00:53:05.610 --> 00:53:07.250 which is how we make our decisions 00:53:07.250 --> 00:53:09.800 during PSPS events at SDG&E, 00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:12.210 on a segment by segment basis for that event, 00:53:12.210 --> 00:53:13.960 based on the forecast. 00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:16.230 We're going to have a wildfire risk score, 00:53:16.230 --> 00:53:18.990 as well a the PSPS risk score 00:53:18.990 --> 00:53:22.010 to help us inform the decision-making process 00:53:22.010 --> 00:53:24.500 and that we can come back to that in a second, 00:53:24.500 --> 00:53:27.510 but more, that the quantitative things that go into this 00:53:27.510 --> 00:53:31.190 is we start on a segment by segment basis 00:53:31.190 --> 00:53:33.880 looking and establishing alerts speeds, 00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:37.730 and what alert speeds are, it's not the threshold 00:53:37.730 --> 00:53:41.820 at which we absolutely turn power off, it's an alert to us. 00:53:41.820 --> 00:53:44.030 So we're at a decision point 00:53:44.030 --> 00:53:46.790 and need to take all things into consideration. 00:53:46.790 --> 00:53:48.750 So our baseline alert wind speeds 00:53:48.750 --> 00:53:51.100 are really the 99th percentile wind speeds 00:53:51.100 --> 00:53:53.130 at each weather station. 00:53:53.130 --> 00:53:57.960 We have data that supports the number of events 00:53:57.960 --> 00:53:59.420 we see happen on our system 00:53:59.420 --> 00:54:02.410 once we start getting to the 99th percentile, 00:54:02.410 --> 00:54:05.742 this means that these facilities only see this wind speed, 00:54:05.742 --> 00:54:09.903 1% of the time, so it's a pretty high weather event. 00:54:10.770 --> 00:54:13.280 Then we take a look at our vegetation risk index. 00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:16.890 Our vegetation risk index is a tool 00:54:16.890 --> 00:54:21.000 that we've developed internally that takes the species, 00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:22.647 the proximity of trees to our line, 00:54:22.647 --> 00:54:25.360 the number of trees in the area, 00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:29.300 historical number of outages, those sorts of things, 00:54:29.300 --> 00:54:34.300 and develop a vegetation risk index for segments 00:54:34.390 --> 00:54:36.240 that have high vegetation risk index, 00:54:36.240 --> 00:54:38.520 that alert speed is going to be adjusted down 00:54:38.520 --> 00:54:40.470 to the 95th percentile. 00:54:40.470 --> 00:54:44.500 We have data that supports the number of vegetation contacts 00:54:44.500 --> 00:54:47.970 that we see exponentially starts to go up, 00:54:47.970 --> 00:54:50.653 once we get to the 95th percentile wind speed. 00:54:51.980 --> 00:54:54.130 Obviously we're all doing a lot of work 00:54:54.130 --> 00:54:56.942 on our distribution system and this is taking the place 00:54:56.942 --> 00:55:01.620 over the course of the entire year, so when events hit us, 00:55:01.620 --> 00:55:02.880 we don't know when they're going to happen 00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:04.330 or for how long they're going to be, 00:55:04.330 --> 00:55:07.040 but we have certain segments of our systems 00:55:07.040 --> 00:55:09.490 that are what we call in temporary configuration. 00:55:10.410 --> 00:55:13.990 We're installing steel poles and increasing the spacing 00:55:13.990 --> 00:55:17.130 so some of these conductors are spread out 00:55:17.130 --> 00:55:18.190 and on temporary arms 00:55:18.190 --> 00:55:19.990 and in sort of a temporary configuration 00:55:19.990 --> 00:55:23.690 and not secured the way that we would want them 00:55:23.690 --> 00:55:26.300 in their final state and so we can adjust 00:55:26.300 --> 00:55:28.660 the alert speed down for areas that we have 00:55:28.660 --> 00:55:30.510 construction going on 00:55:30.510 --> 00:55:32.776 and then for areas that we have had hardened, 00:55:32.776 --> 00:55:35.760 the alert speed gets adjusted upwards. 00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:38.780 So, those are all the quantitative things 00:55:38.780 --> 00:55:42.870 that go in how we make our PSPS decision, 00:55:42.870 --> 00:55:44.550 but then we have the qualitative things 00:55:44.550 --> 00:55:46.550 which are in the third box on the right. 00:55:47.420 --> 00:55:51.190 We have 40 to 50 observers in key locations 00:55:51.190 --> 00:55:55.260 in our service territory and get frequent updates from them 00:55:55.260 --> 00:55:57.200 on what they're seeing in the area. 00:55:57.200 --> 00:55:59.600 Are the lines staying pretty still 00:55:59.600 --> 00:56:01.330 and just kind of swaying with the wind 00:56:01.330 --> 00:56:02.680 or are they jumping around? 00:56:03.790 --> 00:56:06.990 Are we seeing the vegetation really sway 00:56:06.990 --> 00:56:11.450 and blow towards the lines and soon things break off trees, 00:56:11.450 --> 00:56:14.150 then that's something that we would want 00:56:14.150 --> 00:56:16.050 to take into account, or we're seeing debris 00:56:16.050 --> 00:56:16.883 fly through the year. 00:56:16.883 --> 00:56:19.870 Those are typically the three questions we would ask. 00:56:19.870 --> 00:56:21.850 And then we have the next two boxes, 00:56:21.850 --> 00:56:24.740 which are really related to the ability 00:56:24.740 --> 00:56:28.430 to provide an initial attack if an ignition starts, 00:56:28.430 --> 00:56:30.860 if we have an existing fire in the service territory 00:56:30.860 --> 00:56:33.490 and resources are already deployed, 00:56:33.490 --> 00:56:37.470 and we have a draw down on firefighting resources, 00:56:37.470 --> 00:56:40.030 that's going to affect our decision making process 00:56:40.030 --> 00:56:42.080 and then system performance. 00:56:42.080 --> 00:56:43.980 Really any outage on the system 00:56:43.980 --> 00:56:45.910 is the possibility for an ignition 00:56:45.910 --> 00:56:48.940 and so regardless of the quantitative things we're seeing, 00:56:48.940 --> 00:56:51.240 if we're seeing outages on the system, 00:56:51.240 --> 00:56:53.400 that's going to lead to a more conservative decision. 00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:55.890 So those are more of the qualitative things 00:56:55.890 --> 00:56:57.440 and I'll probably stop right here 00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:00.153 because I'm sure there will probably be some questions. 00:57:03.810 --> 00:57:07.003 Anybody have any questions for Mr. Jenkins? 00:57:08.721 --> 00:57:11.030 Okay- President Batjer, if I can, 00:57:11.030 --> 00:57:13.970 just real quickly and this is kind of on the question 00:57:13.970 --> 00:57:16.360 I had asked earlier, I appreciate this. 00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:18.470 This is a helpful to really understand 00:57:18.470 --> 00:57:21.650 the thoughtfulness of how you get to the decision, 00:57:21.650 --> 00:57:23.840 but curious, what has changed in any of this 00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:25.470 or even in the statistics that you read, 00:57:25.470 --> 00:57:29.350 the different percentiles for the, 00:57:29.350 --> 00:57:31.040 specifically in the middle box, 00:57:31.040 --> 00:57:33.490 what's change from last year to this year if any? 00:57:36.240 --> 00:57:40.070 Well, we have the history of what will change 00:57:40.070 --> 00:57:42.940 the sort of the 95th and 99th percentile wind speeds, 00:57:42.940 --> 00:57:45.813 we're constantly accumulating history. 00:57:46.770 --> 00:57:50.970 The vegetation risk index probably doesn't move a whole lot, 00:57:50.970 --> 00:57:52.330 although areas that we've went in 00:57:52.330 --> 00:57:56.950 and enhanced the vegetation clearances in an entire segment, 00:57:56.950 --> 00:58:01.180 we'll be able to lower that to a medium or low risk 00:58:01.180 --> 00:58:04.190 because the clearances are greater, obviously. 00:58:04.190 --> 00:58:06.470 For things that we've completed since last year, 00:58:06.470 --> 00:58:08.150 that aren't in the temporary configuration, 00:58:08.150 --> 00:58:09.170 they're going to get adjusted back 00:58:09.170 --> 00:58:11.200 to what their normal wind speeds would be, 00:58:11.200 --> 00:58:14.750 not being in a construction type situation. 00:58:14.750 --> 00:58:17.060 And then obviously we've completed some hardenings 00:58:17.060 --> 00:58:19.610 since last year and that will adjust the floor 00:58:19.610 --> 00:58:20.730 on areas where we have. 00:58:20.730 --> 00:58:23.090 Again, it needs to be the entire segment hardened, though, 00:58:23.090 --> 00:58:26.340 because if we have hardened half of it 00:58:26.340 --> 00:58:27.840 and half of it is not hardened, 00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:28.850 we're not going to be able to make 00:58:28.850 --> 00:58:30.450 a different decision point, obviously, 00:58:30.450 --> 00:58:31.450 'cause we have to... 00:58:33.000 --> 00:58:34.930 The risk needs to be for 00:58:34.930 --> 00:58:39.913 the lowest common denominator of that particular segment. 00:58:41.220 --> 00:58:42.100 So John, just to be clear, 00:58:42.100 --> 00:58:44.320 the metrics then for the thresholds 00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:47.210 in the different sections, the vegetation, 00:58:47.210 --> 00:58:49.340 the VRI, the hardening, 00:58:49.340 --> 00:58:51.350 those metrics or those thresholds are the same 00:58:51.350 --> 00:58:52.703 as what you used last year? 00:58:54.990 --> 00:58:58.310 Well, I just mentioned that they have 00:58:58.310 --> 00:58:59.490 been able to adjust slightly, 00:58:59.490 --> 00:59:01.720 based on the explanation that I just gave, 00:59:01.720 --> 00:59:03.440 the changes in the historical wind speeds, 00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:05.700 which probably don't vary a whole lot. 00:59:05.700 --> 00:59:08.340 But then if we've been able to reduce 00:59:08.340 --> 00:59:11.010 from a high vegetation risk to a medium or low, 00:59:11.010 --> 00:59:13.500 and then not having things in temporary configuration, 00:59:13.500 --> 00:59:15.793 obviously, we've completed projects since last year 00:59:15.793 --> 00:59:17.393 and moved on to different areas. 00:59:19.410 --> 00:59:22.610 So does that mean that some of the things 00:59:22.610 --> 00:59:26.110 that you've done differently this year than last year, 00:59:26.110 --> 00:59:30.250 since we're all trying to achieve the objective and goal 00:59:30.250 --> 00:59:34.683 of reducing the scope, scale, frequency of PSPS events, 00:59:38.420 --> 00:59:42.580 do you believe that the new wildfire 00:59:42.580 --> 00:59:45.020 versus PSPS risk forecast, et cetera, 00:59:45.020 --> 00:59:49.802 are going to actually reach that objective 00:59:49.802 --> 00:59:54.802 of reducing the scope, scale, and frequency of PSPS events? 00:59:57.050 --> 00:59:58.250 Yeah, absolutely. 00:59:58.250 --> 01:00:01.470 And that's part of our shift in focus, 01:00:01.470 --> 01:00:03.623 is we're treating every segment, 01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:06.940 we're analyzing every segment collectively, 01:00:06.940 --> 01:00:09.180 because again, we need to harden the entire segment 01:00:09.180 --> 01:00:10.620 in order to really take advantage 01:00:10.620 --> 01:00:15.620 of reducing the wildfire risks and the PSPS impacts. 01:00:16.630 --> 01:00:18.790 And so our focus is on- 01:00:18.790 --> 01:00:23.790 And your prioritization of that hardening is advanced by 01:00:25.870 --> 01:00:29.443 or through your risk management prioritization. 01:00:30.872 --> 01:00:35.872 And then the what you do is part of that analysis, 01:00:36.980 --> 01:00:39.710 whether it's covered conductor, 01:00:39.710 --> 01:00:42.130 veg management, or undergrounding, 01:00:42.130 --> 01:00:44.120 or some combination thereof, right? 01:00:44.120 --> 01:00:47.323 I mean, you you're prioritizing by the risk. 01:00:48.530 --> 01:00:51.420 That's right, so we're going to analyze a segment 01:00:51.420 --> 01:00:54.360 and it could say 1/3 of it we need to underground 01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:56.610 because of the risk in that area 01:00:56.610 --> 01:01:01.320 and we're going to provide covered conductor solution 01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:04.420 for the other 2/3 and therefore reducing the risk 01:01:04.420 --> 01:01:06.940 in the most optimal way for this entire segment, 01:01:06.940 --> 01:01:09.160 and once that's complete, 01:01:09.160 --> 01:01:13.423 it will definitely adjust the PSPS alert speed up. 01:01:14.950 --> 01:01:15.883 Okay. Thank you. 01:01:16.930 --> 01:01:20.664 So just to clarify then, Mr. Jenkins, 01:01:20.664 --> 01:01:25.664 when you say adjust the alert speed up, 01:01:25.750 --> 01:01:27.903 can you be a little bit more clear on what you mean by that? 01:01:27.903 --> 01:01:30.370 Because I think what Chief Berlant was getting at 01:01:30.370 --> 01:01:35.100 was the 95% versus 99%, that percent hasn't changed. 01:01:35.100 --> 01:01:38.440 What you're saying is, based on all the different factors 01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:40.610 or adjustments you guys have made, 01:01:40.610 --> 01:01:44.760 what triggers the 95 or 98 or 99 might change, 01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:46.910 but you guys fundamentally aren't changing 01:01:46.910 --> 01:01:48.810 that you're using those thresholds, 01:01:48.810 --> 01:01:50.860 is that an appropriate way to look at it? 01:01:52.050 --> 01:01:53.500 Yeah, I mean, maybe I'll just walk through 01:01:53.500 --> 01:01:55.900 like a made up example here. 01:01:55.900 --> 01:01:59.400 Let's say we have a baseline alert speed for a segment 01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:04.400 that is 50 miles per hour and it's a high vegetation risk, 01:02:04.930 --> 01:02:07.893 so it's going to get adjusted down to 45, 01:02:09.050 --> 01:02:10.290 we'll leave temporary configuration 01:02:10.290 --> 01:02:12.224 out of it first a second, 01:02:12.224 --> 01:02:13.840 but then because of our hardening efforts 01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:15.950 and enhanced vegetation clearances 01:02:15.950 --> 01:02:19.960 and being able to harden the entire segment, 01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:22.460 the alert speed's going to be able to go up to 55. 01:02:25.040 --> 01:02:26.090 Does that make sense? 01:02:28.943 --> 01:02:33.943 So, in that example, would it be appropriate to understand 01:02:34.047 --> 01:02:37.585 the answer to Chief Berlant's question 01:02:37.585 --> 01:02:41.002 that really, from last year to this year, 01:02:42.570 --> 01:02:45.860 at an individual segment perspective, 01:02:45.860 --> 01:02:50.090 there have been some changes of moving the threshold up. 01:02:50.090 --> 01:02:52.493 Is that an accurate statement? Yes. 01:03:01.390 --> 01:03:03.653 Okay, any other questions at this time? 01:03:05.820 --> 01:03:09.163 All right John, why don't you continue on. 01:03:10.278 --> 01:03:12.803 All right, next slide please. 01:03:15.488 --> 01:03:18.630 I just wanted to show how we take all this information 01:03:18.630 --> 01:03:20.130 into account to make our decisions, 01:03:20.130 --> 01:03:22.860 so not every piece of information on this slide, 01:03:22.860 --> 01:03:24.260 but obviously we're taking into account 01:03:24.260 --> 01:03:26.740 a lot of information when we're in the events. 01:03:26.740 --> 01:03:29.090 So this is the dashboard that we use 01:03:29.090 --> 01:03:30.590 as the officer's in charge 01:03:30.590 --> 01:03:33.250 that are ultimately responsible for making that decision, 01:03:33.250 --> 01:03:34.893 whether to de-energize or not. 01:03:35.860 --> 01:03:39.170 So on the left we have the name of our weather stations 01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:42.490 and then we have a checkbox there, 01:03:42.490 --> 01:03:44.920 which is making sure that they've been notified, 01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:48.310 so obviously all of those should be checked in the events, 01:03:48.310 --> 01:03:51.890 and then the next one is the device 01:03:51.890 --> 01:03:53.610 that's associated with that weather station. 01:03:53.610 --> 01:03:56.276 So every weather station has a device or devices 01:03:56.276 --> 01:03:58.870 that are associated for the weather data 01:03:58.870 --> 01:04:01.310 that that weather station provides. 01:04:01.310 --> 01:04:05.210 And then next over we have the real-time gust speed, 01:04:05.210 --> 01:04:07.190 so that changes every time we get reads 01:04:07.190 --> 01:04:11.040 and updates automatically. 01:04:11.040 --> 01:04:13.190 We have the alert speed there, and again, 01:04:13.190 --> 01:04:15.300 this is just an example slide, 01:04:15.300 --> 01:04:17.620 our alert speeds aren't 10 and 15 and 20, 01:04:17.620 --> 01:04:20.293 they're usually more in the 40 to 50 range. 01:04:21.950 --> 01:04:23.980 And so we have the alert speed listed 01:04:23.980 --> 01:04:26.680 and then based on the actual gust that comes in, 01:04:26.680 --> 01:04:28.940 it'll let us know the difference in between 01:04:28.940 --> 01:04:30.210 the alert speed and the gust. 01:04:30.210 --> 01:04:33.380 If the gust is over the alert speed, it shows up in red, 01:04:33.380 --> 01:04:36.650 meaning we should be looking at making a decision here, 01:04:36.650 --> 01:04:39.270 if it's in yellow, that just means it's getting close, 01:04:39.270 --> 01:04:41.700 within five miles per hour of the alert speed, 01:04:41.700 --> 01:04:43.570 the latest gust was, 01:04:43.570 --> 01:04:45.620 we have the historical information 01:04:45.620 --> 01:04:50.530 next over to the right of the 99th percentile wind speeds 01:04:50.530 --> 01:04:52.290 for both of those segments. 01:04:52.290 --> 01:04:53.960 We have the vegetation risk, again, 01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:57.180 just a bucketized into low, medium and high. 01:04:57.180 --> 01:04:59.920 We have what the forecast was for that segment 01:04:59.920 --> 01:05:03.490 just so we can see how we're trending towards the forecast, 01:05:03.490 --> 01:05:05.510 the fire potential index and then we have 01:05:05.510 --> 01:05:07.770 some customer information off to the right, 01:05:07.770 --> 01:05:11.970 the projected meters, medical baseline customer counts, 01:05:11.970 --> 01:05:15.440 the communities involved, we have some tabs up at the top, 01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:18.130 once we de-energize the segment, on this slide, 01:05:18.130 --> 01:05:20.420 it moves to a de-energized dashboard 01:05:20.420 --> 01:05:22.320 so it doesn't clutter up this slide. 01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:24.400 But everything's timestamped, 01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:26.820 it helps us to fill out the post event reports. 01:05:26.820 --> 01:05:30.690 It lets us know when the customers were notified, 01:05:30.690 --> 01:05:32.170 when we de-energized them. 01:05:32.170 --> 01:05:35.640 As we go back, we document the okays to patrol 01:05:35.640 --> 01:05:37.510 and when we were planning to reenergize, 01:05:37.510 --> 01:05:41.150 there's some critical facility details up at the top 01:05:41.150 --> 01:05:43.000 that our customer service people use 01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:46.570 to make sure that we're aware of critical facilities 01:05:46.570 --> 01:05:49.730 that's in any particular segment. 01:05:49.730 --> 01:05:51.610 So anyway, just wanted to show the dashboard. 01:05:51.610 --> 01:05:54.590 This is really sort of taking all the information 01:05:54.590 --> 01:05:56.140 that I described on the previous slide 01:05:56.140 --> 01:05:57.677 and putting it in a way that we can digest it 01:05:57.677 --> 01:05:59.013 and make decisions from. 01:06:01.240 --> 01:06:04.223 John, two questions. 01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:08.160 All of this information, all of this data 01:06:08.160 --> 01:06:10.980 is coming into your center 01:06:10.980 --> 01:06:14.230 and who is it that sitting around that table 01:06:14.230 --> 01:06:15.490 that's going to make the decision, 01:06:15.490 --> 01:06:17.940 okay we got to pull, we have to pull the plug, 01:06:17.940 --> 01:06:20.380 we gotta call the PS, we've warned the PSPS, 01:06:20.380 --> 01:06:22.220 now we're gonna do it. 01:06:22.220 --> 01:06:24.610 They've got this information plus other information, 01:06:24.610 --> 01:06:29.210 I'm assuming, who actually makes the decision? 01:06:29.210 --> 01:06:31.620 That would be myself, Kevin Geraghty or Will Speer, 01:06:31.620 --> 01:06:33.500 there's three of us that are typically 01:06:33.500 --> 01:06:35.830 the officers in charge during, 01:06:35.830 --> 01:06:37.590 for weather events in particular 01:06:38.527 --> 01:06:40.127 and it would be one of us three. 01:06:41.450 --> 01:06:43.913 And how much time, generally, 01:06:45.010 --> 01:06:48.780 do you realistically believe there is, 01:06:48.780 --> 01:06:51.267 between calling it and telling your customers 01:06:51.267 --> 01:06:52.720 you're going to call it. 01:06:52.720 --> 01:06:55.333 You've already done a warning, maybe for 48 hours, 01:06:56.230 --> 01:06:59.280 but what kind of timeframe 01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:01.880 before you actually shut off the power, 01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:04.250 on anyone in your segment? 01:07:04.250 --> 01:07:06.333 So from the time that we make the decision, 01:07:06.333 --> 01:07:08.963 'til the time that the device is actually opened? 01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:11.153 Yes. 01:07:12.928 --> 01:07:15.980 How much time would a customer have to really prepare, 01:07:15.980 --> 01:07:18.070 I know they've been under a warning, 01:07:18.070 --> 01:07:21.010 hopefully you've at least been able to do that, 01:07:21.010 --> 01:07:23.223 and then you all have made a decision, 01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:29.420 and how much time, generally, would it be 01:07:29.420 --> 01:07:33.880 between the time you notify the customers 01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:36.780 that you're going to actually shut off the power 01:07:36.780 --> 01:07:37.883 and actually doing it? 01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:41.453 With all of this information? 01:07:42.884 --> 01:07:44.740 From the time that we make the decision 01:07:44.740 --> 01:07:48.960 to de-energize the device to the time it's actually opened 01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:50.800 is only about five minutes. 01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:53.270 All of our, all of our devices are operated remotely, 01:07:53.270 --> 01:07:55.893 so none of these are manual operations. 01:08:02.070 --> 01:08:03.747 Okay. Thank you. 01:08:03.747 --> 01:08:07.043 All right, next slide please. 01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:16.810 And the last topic I wanted to cover in more detail 01:08:16.810 --> 01:08:20.720 is just our vegetation management. 01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:25.403 As I mentioned earlier, we monitor, track, trim or remove, 01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:31.840 do all that work for 460,000 trees in our service territory. 01:08:31.850 --> 01:08:34.820 Over half of those are in the high fire threat district. 01:08:34.820 --> 01:08:37.970 So proud of the work that that our group does 01:08:37.970 --> 01:08:40.150 in vegetation management. 01:08:40.150 --> 01:08:44.270 We've had five contacts in our HFTD this year so far. 01:08:44.270 --> 01:08:46.390 We don't like to have any, 01:08:46.390 --> 01:08:50.600 but we're talking about a population in HFTD, 01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:54.890 over 250,000 trees and we've had five contacts 01:08:54.890 --> 01:08:56.540 and one ignition thus far this year. 01:08:56.540 --> 01:08:58.500 The one ignition was not in the HFTD though, 01:08:58.500 --> 01:08:59.750 so I should clarify that. 01:09:01.290 --> 01:09:03.690 We also clear all of our overhangs, 01:09:03.690 --> 01:09:05.900 so we have no overhangs on our systems, 01:09:05.900 --> 01:09:09.910 so we get the 12 foot clearance in the HFTD 01:09:09.910 --> 01:09:13.570 for the identified species that I talked about earlier. 01:09:13.570 --> 01:09:17.110 We're trying to get up to 25 in certain situations, 01:09:17.110 --> 01:09:20.430 but we don't have any overhangs over our lines. 01:09:20.430 --> 01:09:24.150 So typically, the rural states, 01:09:24.150 --> 01:09:27.620 we try to get radio clearance so that can leave trees 01:09:27.620 --> 01:09:30.030 hanging directly over the tops of the lines, 01:09:30.030 --> 01:09:32.473 but we clear all the way up through the sky. 01:09:33.378 --> 01:09:35.178 So we eliminate all of our overhangs 01:09:36.230 --> 01:09:41.230 and just been mentioning the vegetation risk index 01:09:41.340 --> 01:09:44.950 throughout the slide and showed you how we use it 01:09:44.950 --> 01:09:46.480 for our mitigation strategies 01:09:46.480 --> 01:09:48.913 as well as our PSPS decision making process. 01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:53.390 So if there are no questions on this slide 01:09:53.390 --> 01:09:54.933 or any of the previous slides, 01:09:55.949 --> 01:09:57.020 I'd like to turn it over to Tashonda 01:09:57.020 --> 01:09:59.480 to talk about everything we're doing 01:09:59.480 --> 01:10:01.880 in terms of stakeholder and customer engagement. 01:10:03.530 --> 01:10:06.090 Thanks John and I thank you all 01:10:06.090 --> 01:10:08.820 for having us here this afternoon. 01:10:08.820 --> 01:10:11.154 Sound check, can- (audio glitch) 01:10:11.154 --> 01:10:12.463 Can you all hear me. Sorry, before you go. 01:10:12.463 --> 01:10:13.624 I think Commissioner Rechtschaffen 01:10:13.624 --> 01:10:17.120 has a question. Yeah sorry. 01:10:17.120 --> 01:10:19.873 Since I will not be able to stay for the entire, 01:10:19.873 --> 01:10:22.910 I don't know if I can stay for the entire presentation. 01:10:22.910 --> 01:10:26.630 John, I think you're the right person to ask this 01:10:26.630 --> 01:10:28.190 and maybe it should have come earlier, 01:10:28.190 --> 01:10:32.720 but in addition to just saying in response to 01:10:34.320 --> 01:10:36.060 Chief Berlant's question about what's different 01:10:36.060 --> 01:10:38.000 from this year and last year, 01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.240 not on the PSPS risk paradigm, 01:10:40.240 --> 01:10:44.310 but on the wildfire safety risk approach, 01:10:44.310 --> 01:10:48.470 how are you factoring in nonhistorical climate data, 01:10:48.470 --> 01:10:50.710 by which I mean, worst case data. 01:10:50.710 --> 01:10:53.070 We've seen, the past two years, 01:10:53.070 --> 01:10:55.890 these extreme heat storms, unprecedented drought 01:10:55.890 --> 01:10:59.650 and unprecedented wildfires really defy 01:10:59.650 --> 01:11:02.330 all of our past historical data, 01:11:02.330 --> 01:11:05.990 so can you speak very quickly to the extent 01:11:05.990 --> 01:11:07.900 to which that is factoring into 01:11:07.900 --> 01:11:11.433 your wildfire mitigation risk analysis? 01:11:13.190 --> 01:11:15.350 Yeah, one of the ways is with 01:11:15.350 --> 01:11:18.550 the situational awareness tool that Kevin opened up with, 01:11:18.550 --> 01:11:20.230 obviously we're getting a lot of information 01:11:20.230 --> 01:11:23.760 related to forecast and we are sort of, 01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:28.760 unfortunately, beating the forecast in some of these years 01:11:28.910 --> 01:11:30.180 and what we've seen over the course 01:11:30.180 --> 01:11:32.430 of the past two years specifically. 01:11:32.430 --> 01:11:34.670 But also, these tools fuel things 01:11:34.670 --> 01:11:35.790 like our fire potential index, 01:11:35.790 --> 01:11:38.170 we really, really rely on a fire potential index 01:11:38.170 --> 01:11:41.460 heading into an event to let us know 01:11:41.460 --> 01:11:44.900 what type of event it is or we have. 01:11:44.900 --> 01:11:46.190 Right now we're in high, 01:11:46.190 --> 01:11:50.440 we typically go into a fire potential index of high, 01:11:50.440 --> 01:11:55.440 which, for us, is a range of 11 to 14 around June 01:11:56.600 --> 01:11:57.433 and we stay in there 01:11:57.433 --> 01:12:00.430 for most of the rest of the year, unfortunately. 01:12:00.430 --> 01:12:02.740 Then when we get to the Santa Ana conditions, 01:12:02.740 --> 01:12:04.210 that's what kicks it into the extreme, 01:12:04.210 --> 01:12:06.840 which is 15, 16, 17. 01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:09.350 So as we're seeing changes in the weather patterns, 01:12:09.350 --> 01:12:10.860 we are starting to see right now, 01:12:10.860 --> 01:12:13.200 I mean, we're not even in a fire weather event, 01:12:13.200 --> 01:12:15.984 but we're so hot and dry, we're in a little bit 01:12:15.984 --> 01:12:20.040 of a heat wave here today in San Diego, 01:12:20.040 --> 01:12:21.840 we're so hot and dry. 01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:24.680 Even last year we had rain up through April, 01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:26.830 which helped but we haven't had any measure 01:12:28.170 --> 01:12:31.230 since February of this year 01:12:31.230 --> 01:12:33.020 and so we're still hot and dry. 01:12:33.020 --> 01:12:35.310 Right now, potential index of 14, 01:12:35.310 --> 01:12:38.740 which is the last one that's in the high category 01:12:38.740 --> 01:12:40.123 before we go into extreme. 01:12:40.978 --> 01:12:44.520 So that's one of the ways that it really lets us know 01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:47.423 and stays ahead of the changing weather patterns. 01:12:50.910 --> 01:12:51.810 Okay, thank you. 01:12:55.610 --> 01:12:57.260 President Batjer, just to... 01:12:57.260 --> 01:13:00.950 Maybe it's a tweener between John and the next speaker here, 01:13:00.950 --> 01:13:05.950 but in your slide where you showed your checkbox 01:13:05.960 --> 01:13:08.980 on the notification to de-energize, 01:13:08.980 --> 01:13:13.590 is that notification to all customers 01:13:13.590 --> 01:13:16.093 or are you talking about a specific set? 01:13:18.070 --> 01:13:21.500 No, that's the notification to all customers. 01:13:21.500 --> 01:13:24.880 Obviously, we're trying to walk the... 01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:26.440 We never want to de-energize somebody 01:13:26.440 --> 01:13:28.600 that did not receive a notification, 01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:31.390 but we also don't want to notify the world 01:13:31.390 --> 01:13:33.120 every time we have a Santa Ana event. 01:13:33.120 --> 01:13:36.990 So, you know, in our previous, 01:13:36.990 --> 01:13:38.543 in the large event last year, 01:13:38.543 --> 01:13:41.800 when we de-energized 74,000 customers, 01:13:41.800 --> 01:13:45.223 we ended up notifying around 96,000. 01:13:46.290 --> 01:13:50.143 We did miss 2000 customers where we had, 01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:52.880 two things happened, 01:13:52.880 --> 01:13:55.530 we had a sectionalizing device that wouldn't operate 01:13:55.530 --> 01:13:57.410 so we had to go to an upstream device, 01:13:57.410 --> 01:13:59.360 therefore incorporating customers 01:13:59.360 --> 01:14:03.260 that weren't anticipated to be involved in a PSPS event, 01:14:03.260 --> 01:14:04.500 that was one reason. 01:14:04.500 --> 01:14:07.730 The second reason was we had some weather show up 01:14:07.730 --> 01:14:10.420 that didn't really match the forecast in a couple of areas 01:14:10.420 --> 01:14:13.160 that caused us to de-energize customers 01:14:13.160 --> 01:14:14.190 that were not notified. 01:14:14.190 --> 01:14:16.740 But again, it was around 2000 customers 01:14:16.740 --> 01:14:19.880 in that large event last year that were de-energized 01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:21.693 that did not receive a notification. 01:14:29.440 --> 01:14:32.050 So I'll do a quick sound check 01:14:32.050 --> 01:14:34.220 to make sure you all can hear me, 01:14:34.220 --> 01:14:36.170 if there's no other questions for John. 01:14:37.200 --> 01:14:41.730 We can hear you fine. Okay, great. Thank you. 01:14:41.730 --> 01:14:43.070 My name is Tashonda Taylor, 01:14:43.070 --> 01:14:45.760 I'm the vice president of customer operations, 01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:50.330 and I'm very pleased to be here to talk to you about 01:14:50.330 --> 01:14:53.380 what we're doing in terms of our focus on customers. 01:14:53.380 --> 01:14:55.752 However, I would like to go back to 01:14:55.752 --> 01:14:58.250 Commissioner Batjer's question, 01:14:58.250 --> 01:15:00.500 you were talking about customer notifications, 01:15:00.500 --> 01:15:02.795 and I think John answered the question 01:15:02.795 --> 01:15:05.670 in regards to when our devices trip 01:15:05.670 --> 01:15:10.430 and we actually de-energize, but to answer your question, 01:15:10.430 --> 01:15:13.160 we provide multiple notifications to our customers. 01:15:13.160 --> 01:15:17.090 So we notify them at the 48 hour mark, 01:15:17.090 --> 01:15:19.720 as soon as we know that they could be impacted, 01:15:19.720 --> 01:15:21.800 the 24-hour mark and 12, 01:15:21.800 --> 01:15:23.840 and then within one to four hours 01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:26.230 of us actually de-energizing that circuit 01:15:26.230 --> 01:15:28.140 for a possible PSPS. 01:15:28.140 --> 01:15:32.380 We also update the PSPS mobile app 01:15:32.380 --> 01:15:34.540 and they receive a notification 01:15:34.540 --> 01:15:37.060 as soon as the de-energization happens. 01:15:37.060 --> 01:15:40.943 So I hope that better clarifies your question. 01:15:43.040 --> 01:15:43.873 In regards to- 01:15:43.873 --> 01:15:45.550 Thank you, Tashonda, it does. 01:15:45.550 --> 01:15:48.790 It does and I'll let you go ahead 01:15:48.790 --> 01:15:50.570 because I could follow up later, 01:15:50.570 --> 01:15:51.610 but I don't want to interrupt 01:15:51.610 --> 01:15:53.900 and time is kind of important here. 01:15:53.900 --> 01:15:56.930 So please go ahead, Miss Taylor. 01:15:56.930 --> 01:15:59.040 Thank you, and I will try to get us through quickly 01:15:59.040 --> 01:16:01.393 because we do want to hear the questions. 01:16:02.696 --> 01:16:06.060 But a key focus for us this year, in this year's campaign, 01:16:06.060 --> 01:16:08.220 is to connect public safety power shutoff 01:16:08.220 --> 01:16:09.910 to wildfire safety. 01:16:09.910 --> 01:16:14.050 Why we do it, how we do it and how to prepare for it. 01:16:14.050 --> 01:16:16.760 We are utilizing more than 20 diverse communication 01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:20.270 platforms to ensure messaging is being deployed quickly 01:16:20.270 --> 01:16:22.900 and connecting with hard to reach customers. 01:16:22.900 --> 01:16:26.020 In addition to digital, radio and print, 01:16:26.020 --> 01:16:28.680 SDG&E utilizes grassroots channels 01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:31.560 to reach those without internet or cellular access, 01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:34.550 such as printed flyers at key community sites, 01:16:34.550 --> 01:16:37.193 roadsigns and community marquees. 01:16:38.410 --> 01:16:40.200 This is supplemented with partnerships 01:16:40.200 --> 01:16:43.280 with more than 200 community-based organizations 01:16:43.280 --> 01:16:47.240 to enhance customer awareness and share information. 01:16:47.240 --> 01:16:52.240 We're communicating in language with educational 01:16:53.550 --> 01:16:55.440 PSPS communications available 01:16:55.440 --> 01:16:57.050 in other prevalent languages, 01:16:57.050 --> 01:16:59.860 including American sign language. 01:16:59.860 --> 01:17:01.890 There are two additional customized tracks 01:17:01.890 --> 01:17:04.430 within the PSPS awareness campaign, 01:17:04.430 --> 01:17:07.570 tribal and AFN communications. 01:17:07.570 --> 01:17:09.640 Each of these customer segments will receive 01:17:09.640 --> 01:17:13.190 additional PSPS awareness and preparedness communications 01:17:13.190 --> 01:17:16.483 that are actually culturally appropriate and timely. 01:17:17.490 --> 01:17:19.980 In terms of our notifications, 01:17:19.980 --> 01:17:23.140 we are constantly refining our notification procedures 01:17:23.140 --> 01:17:26.070 with some key improvements this year, which includes, 01:17:26.070 --> 01:17:29.640 increasing accessibility by adding deaf link technology 01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:31.260 to enable all notifications 01:17:31.260 --> 01:17:34.570 in American sign language, audio and text, 01:17:34.570 --> 01:17:36.300 enhancing our system capacity 01:17:36.300 --> 01:17:39.963 to send notifications faster once the PSPS occurs, 01:17:40.860 --> 01:17:44.080 refined messaging that includes customer public safety 01:17:44.080 --> 01:17:48.270 and community partner feedback and available resources, 01:17:48.270 --> 01:17:51.250 address level notifications are available for anyone, 01:17:51.250 --> 01:17:52.960 including non-account holders, 01:17:52.960 --> 01:17:56.283 which is key for renters, multifamily and mobile home parks. 01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:00.170 In terms of our community resource centers, 01:18:00.170 --> 01:18:05.170 for 2021 SDG&E has added an 11th CRC location in Fallbrook, 01:18:05.380 --> 01:18:07.020 as well as a third mobile unit 01:18:07.020 --> 01:18:09.397 that can be dispatched wherever it's needed. 01:18:10.260 --> 01:18:12.530 We have also incorporated additional improvements 01:18:12.530 --> 01:18:15.520 for customers with access and functional needs, 01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:17.534 including privacy screens, 01:18:17.534 --> 01:18:20.463 enhanced signage, and non-slip mats. 01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:22.950 Next slide, please. 01:18:26.440 --> 01:18:29.210 Our public safety partners are first responders, 01:18:29.210 --> 01:18:33.083 local governments, water and telecommunications utilities. 01:18:35.290 --> 01:18:36.680 I'm sorry, I just wanted to make sure 01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:38.030 we were on the right slide. 01:18:38.920 --> 01:18:40.940 We continue to enhance our partnerships 01:18:40.940 --> 01:18:43.170 and develop tools for our public safety partners 01:18:43.170 --> 01:18:46.680 to empower them to keep our committees safe. 01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:48.700 I'll start with the secure portal. 01:18:48.700 --> 01:18:51.750 New this year we are launching a secure portal 01:18:51.750 --> 01:18:54.270 for our partners to keep the most relevant information 01:18:54.270 --> 01:18:56.280 at their fingertips on the go, 01:18:56.280 --> 01:18:59.453 so they can better prepare communities for PSPS events. 01:19:00.360 --> 01:19:02.070 This portal was developed with input 01:19:02.070 --> 01:19:03.390 from stakeholder interviews, 01:19:03.390 --> 01:19:06.250 representing each public safety partner segment. 01:19:06.250 --> 01:19:09.950 That includes Cal OES, San Diego County OES 01:19:09.950 --> 01:19:12.190 and local jurisdictional, emergency managers, 01:19:12.190 --> 01:19:14.563 tribal governments, and fire agencies. 01:19:15.490 --> 01:19:18.260 We learned from our partners pain points and challenges, 01:19:18.260 --> 01:19:20.760 and designed a portal that is a one place resource 01:19:22.051 --> 01:19:25.800 that includes timely, accurate, and shareable information. 01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:29.730 We have direct 24/7 contact links, social media kits, 01:19:29.730 --> 01:19:31.640 partner talking points and much more, 01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:34.483 for our partners to keep our community safe. 01:19:35.750 --> 01:19:38.310 We will have a portal in place by September 1 01:19:38.310 --> 01:19:39.820 to provide a go-to resource 01:19:39.820 --> 01:19:42.653 for all our public safety partners this fire season. 01:19:43.910 --> 01:19:46.140 Now I'll move to the telecommunications. 01:19:46.140 --> 01:19:49.960 We work in tandem with our six primary telecom partners 01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:51.660 that support critical facilities 01:19:51.660 --> 01:19:53.660 and provide communication to support 01:19:53.660 --> 01:19:56.653 telecom resiliency during PSPS events. 01:19:57.890 --> 01:20:00.620 In addition to a broad outreach campaign, 01:20:00.620 --> 01:20:03.880 SDG&E leverages it's account executive team 01:20:03.880 --> 01:20:06.990 to work with assigned communication carriers year round 01:20:06.990 --> 01:20:09.450 to ensure their contact information is updated 01:20:09.450 --> 01:20:11.930 with multiple points of contacts identified 01:20:11.930 --> 01:20:14.230 and to assess their resiliency plans 01:20:14.230 --> 01:20:15.983 and need for backup generation. 01:20:17.230 --> 01:20:21.220 In advance of PSPS events, SDG&E's account executives 01:20:21.220 --> 01:20:23.370 also work in communication with carriers 01:20:23.370 --> 01:20:25.750 to ensure they know that what circuits 01:20:25.750 --> 01:20:27.190 are being de-energized, 01:20:27.190 --> 01:20:28.560 which allows them to plan for 01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:32.100 their backup generation resources appropriately. 01:20:32.100 --> 01:20:34.320 Through our meetings with the communication carriers, 01:20:34.320 --> 01:20:37.380 they have informed SDG&E that they have been improving 01:20:37.380 --> 01:20:38.930 their resiliency of their network 01:20:38.930 --> 01:20:40.600 over the past several years, 01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:43.563 including acquiring additional backup generation. 01:20:44.830 --> 01:20:46.850 In regards to the tribes. 01:20:46.850 --> 01:20:49.750 All tribes we serve are in the high fire threat districts 01:20:49.750 --> 01:20:52.650 and are impacted by PSPS events. 01:20:52.650 --> 01:20:54.870 This year, we built on our previous engagement 01:20:54.870 --> 01:20:57.190 with tribal communities working to solve 01:20:57.190 --> 01:21:00.080 the biggest challenges we have heard tribes raise, 01:21:00.080 --> 01:21:03.163 including support for microgrid resiliency planning. 01:21:04.200 --> 01:21:05.570 We have met with tribal partners 01:21:05.570 --> 01:21:08.940 to understand their greatest challenges with PSPS events 01:21:08.940 --> 01:21:11.650 and learned the impacts to elders, generators, 01:21:11.650 --> 01:21:14.560 food scarcity, and limited internet connectivity 01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:16.223 are top of mind challenges. 01:21:17.270 --> 01:21:19.400 In response, to have support systems in place 01:21:19.400 --> 01:21:21.280 with the Indian Health Councils, 01:21:21.280 --> 01:21:23.420 which have served tribal communities. 01:21:23.420 --> 01:21:26.290 These systems are set up to provide generators, 01:21:26.290 --> 01:21:29.300 resiliency items, information, and resources 01:21:29.300 --> 01:21:31.530 in advance of wildfire season 01:21:31.530 --> 01:21:34.863 and support emergency food distribution for a PSPS event. 01:21:36.700 --> 01:21:39.590 We engage tribal partners in a variety of ways, 01:21:39.590 --> 01:21:43.550 including education and outreach, tabletop exercises, 01:21:43.550 --> 01:21:46.950 virtual EOC tours, fire chief training 01:21:46.950 --> 01:21:49.040 and wildfire safety fairs. 01:21:49.040 --> 01:21:51.870 This year, we've had two wildfire resiliency fairs 01:21:51.870 --> 01:21:54.450 on the reservation, one of which took place 01:21:54.450 --> 01:21:56.563 on the La Jolla reservation in July. 01:21:57.980 --> 01:22:00.410 We coordinate with tribal governments year round 01:22:00.410 --> 01:22:02.270 on fire hardening projects, 01:22:02.270 --> 01:22:05.090 including coordination with all the tribes we serve, 01:22:05.090 --> 01:22:07.900 we serve on our overhead fire hardening program. 01:22:11.570 --> 01:22:14.220 Last year, we started construction of underground projects 01:22:14.220 --> 01:22:17.360 on tribal land to ensure critical tribal facilities 01:22:17.360 --> 01:22:20.530 stayed energized during PSPS events. 01:22:20.530 --> 01:22:22.660 Importantly, we also support tribes 01:22:22.660 --> 01:22:25.260 with exploration and development of microgrids 01:22:25.260 --> 01:22:27.740 in support of the tribes sovereignty, 01:22:27.740 --> 01:22:31.173 which will be used by tribes for resiliency during events. 01:22:32.930 --> 01:22:33.763 Next slide. 01:22:38.350 --> 01:22:40.463 So, now I'd like to talk about some of the things 01:22:40.463 --> 01:22:42.960 that we're doing in terms of our 01:22:42.960 --> 01:22:45.070 access and functional needs customers, 01:22:45.070 --> 01:22:47.800 our customers with access and functional needs. 01:22:47.800 --> 01:22:50.890 SDG&E has built a robust assistance model 01:22:51.760 --> 01:22:54.300 to support customers with access and functional needs 01:22:54.300 --> 01:22:57.591 through enhanced partnerships with 211 San Diego, 01:22:57.591 --> 01:23:00.810 211 Orange County and other community partners 01:23:00.810 --> 01:23:02.400 to offer social services needed 01:23:02.400 --> 01:23:05.003 in advance of and during PSPS events. 01:23:05.900 --> 01:23:08.948 Available services include readiness support, 01:23:08.948 --> 01:23:13.130 accessible transportation, hotel stays, food support, 01:23:13.130 --> 01:23:17.410 resiliency items, welfare checks, battery backup programs, 01:23:17.410 --> 01:23:20.140 which can now be dispatched during PSPS events 01:23:20.140 --> 01:23:21.823 for emergency situations. 01:23:23.170 --> 01:23:24.530 In terms of enrollment. 01:23:24.530 --> 01:23:26.590 In addition to the broader services available 01:23:26.590 --> 01:23:30.490 to all customers with AFN, SDG&E also offers 01:23:30.490 --> 01:23:32.780 various programs to address specific needs, 01:23:32.780 --> 01:23:36.520 including the medical baseline rate discount program. 01:23:36.520 --> 01:23:38.800 Notably following heavy promotions, 01:23:38.800 --> 01:23:41.780 SDG&E has seen an increase of more than 20% 01:23:41.780 --> 01:23:45.810 in medical baseline enrollment over the last June. 01:23:45.810 --> 01:23:50.430 SDG&E currently has approximately 66,000 customers enrolled 01:23:50.430 --> 01:23:52.263 in the medical baseline program. 01:23:53.640 --> 01:23:57.070 In terms of identification of AFN customers, 01:23:57.070 --> 01:23:59.630 to support broad awareness of available solutions 01:23:59.630 --> 01:24:02.980 across the access and functional needs community, 01:24:02.980 --> 01:24:06.130 SDG&E has been very actively identifying customers 01:24:06.130 --> 01:24:07.880 that fall into this category 01:24:07.880 --> 01:24:10.010 through a three-pronged approach. 01:24:10.010 --> 01:24:12.550 First, we've identified relevant fields 01:24:12.550 --> 01:24:14.150 across our customer databases 01:24:14.150 --> 01:24:16.830 and flagged these customers as AFN. 01:24:16.830 --> 01:24:20.450 We have identified 400,000 unique customers, 01:24:20.450 --> 01:24:24.330 which is about 30% of our residential population. 01:24:24.330 --> 01:24:26.390 Of these, about 40,000 reside 01:24:26.390 --> 01:24:28.690 in our high fire threat district. 01:24:28.690 --> 01:24:31.920 As part of this effort, we have also conducted surveys 01:24:31.920 --> 01:24:34.220 specifically to this population 01:24:34.220 --> 01:24:36.140 to gain a better understanding of the needs 01:24:36.140 --> 01:24:39.543 and we've used this information to shape our support. 01:24:40.830 --> 01:24:44.470 Number two, we recognize that not all of our customers 01:24:44.470 --> 01:24:46.040 with access and functional needs 01:24:46.040 --> 01:24:48.240 are interested in sharing private information 01:24:48.240 --> 01:24:50.350 with their utility company. 01:24:50.350 --> 01:24:53.960 As a result, we have recently added a new general AFN field 01:24:53.960 --> 01:24:57.840 to our system and established a process where customers 01:24:57.840 --> 01:25:00.880 can self identify as AFN. 01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:03.670 We have began promoting this option and have sent 01:25:03.670 --> 01:25:06.900 a mailer to the first wave of customers this July. 01:25:06.900 --> 01:25:10.060 We plan to send a second larger direct mail campaign 01:25:10.060 --> 01:25:11.153 in the coming month. 01:25:12.510 --> 01:25:16.590 Number three, we collaborate heavily with our AFN partners, 01:25:16.590 --> 01:25:19.710 the experts and trusted advisors for this community, 01:25:19.710 --> 01:25:23.800 to identify and communicate key PSPS support information, 01:25:23.800 --> 01:25:26.670 including conducting trainings on PSPS support 01:25:26.670 --> 01:25:30.450 for Statewide groups, like the in-home support services, 01:25:30.450 --> 01:25:34.110 among many others who care for customers with disabilities 01:25:34.110 --> 01:25:36.453 and have engaged in joint marketing efforts. 01:25:37.510 --> 01:25:39.770 SDG&E utilizes this information 01:25:39.770 --> 01:25:43.310 to target PSPS communications and promote solutions, 01:25:43.310 --> 01:25:45.270 such as our generator grant program 01:25:45.270 --> 01:25:47.403 that John talked about in earlier slides. 01:25:48.490 --> 01:25:51.320 Some of this will be repeat, but I just want to focus 01:25:51.320 --> 01:25:52.550 on a couple of things 01:25:52.550 --> 01:25:55.010 in terms of the generator grant program. 01:25:55.010 --> 01:25:57.670 As John mentioned, we've increased the number of units 01:25:57.670 --> 01:26:00.880 to at least 2000 for 2021. 01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:03.580 All medical baseline customers in the HFTD 01:26:03.580 --> 01:26:06.680 that have experienced a PSPS event, as John mentioned, 01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:10.210 will be offered a generator again in 2021. 01:26:10.210 --> 01:26:12.440 Additionally, we have expanded the eligibility 01:26:12.440 --> 01:26:14.150 of this program to customers 01:26:14.150 --> 01:26:17.200 who have self-identified as having a disability. 01:26:17.200 --> 01:26:19.870 We've also set aside 40 dedicated units 01:26:19.870 --> 01:26:22.080 for tribal communities. 01:26:22.080 --> 01:26:24.020 Invitations started going out in July, 01:26:24.020 --> 01:26:27.080 to date more than 60 units have been delivered 01:26:27.080 --> 01:26:29.870 and more than a hundred deliveries are scheduled. 01:26:29.870 --> 01:26:31.670 All invitations are scheduled to go out 01:26:31.670 --> 01:26:34.650 by the end of August, 2021. 01:26:34.650 --> 01:26:36.950 We are expanding the emergency generator program 01:26:36.950 --> 01:26:39.390 that we launched in December 2020. 01:26:39.390 --> 01:26:41.320 This will enable us to provide nearly 01:26:41.320 --> 01:26:43.610 real-time rechargeable units to customers 01:26:43.610 --> 01:26:45.750 in critical medical situations 01:26:45.750 --> 01:26:48.930 whose needs cannot be met with hotel and transportation, 01:26:48.930 --> 01:26:52.143 or other services that we offer during a PSPS event. 01:26:54.080 --> 01:26:57.080 John talked a little bit about the generator rebate program, 01:26:57.080 --> 01:26:59.350 so I won't go into greater detail on that 01:26:59.350 --> 01:27:01.283 unless there are further questions. 01:27:03.250 --> 01:27:05.370 And I'd like to go to my last slide, 01:27:05.370 --> 01:27:07.863 the next slide, on the public safety partnership. 01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:14.470 So in terms of our partnership, 01:27:14.470 --> 01:27:18.250 SDG&E solicits feedback from our public safety partners 01:27:18.250 --> 01:27:20.550 following each PSPS event. 01:27:20.550 --> 01:27:23.850 Questions include, please evaluate SDG&E's 01:27:23.850 --> 01:27:25.970 level of engagement with your organization 01:27:25.970 --> 01:27:29.770 before and during the most recent PSPS event. 01:27:29.770 --> 01:27:33.490 Customers can choose great, good, fair, or poor, 01:27:33.490 --> 01:27:36.950 or not applicable, including a comment section. 01:27:36.950 --> 01:27:38.190 We also ask a question, 01:27:38.190 --> 01:27:39.960 is there anything that SDG&E can do 01:27:39.960 --> 01:27:42.000 to improve your experience? 01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:43.850 We're happy to say that 88% 01:27:43.850 --> 01:27:46.140 of the public safety partners surveyed, 01:27:46.140 --> 01:27:48.040 following 2020 responses, 01:27:48.040 --> 01:27:51.440 rated SDG&E as either good or great. 01:27:51.440 --> 01:27:55.970 However, 2% of our responders rated SDG&E poor. 01:27:55.970 --> 01:27:57.240 Comments for poor rating 01:27:57.240 --> 01:28:00.180 were due to notification for restorations 01:28:00.180 --> 01:28:03.340 were received after the power had been restored. 01:28:03.340 --> 01:28:06.980 We heard that and we are in the progress 01:28:06.980 --> 01:28:08.730 of making steps to change. 01:28:08.730 --> 01:28:12.180 So we've increased the capacity of our autodialer 01:28:12.180 --> 01:28:14.010 to more quickly complete delivery 01:28:14.010 --> 01:28:17.010 of outbound customer notifications. 01:28:17.010 --> 01:28:19.576 As a company we've worked really hard to listen 01:28:19.576 --> 01:28:21.630 and to improve the customer experience 01:28:21.630 --> 01:28:23.750 from a notification perspective. 01:28:23.750 --> 01:28:26.660 We also recognize that there is room for improvement. 01:28:26.660 --> 01:28:28.540 So we'll continue to ask the questions, 01:28:28.540 --> 01:28:32.130 listen to our customers and strive to get better. 01:28:32.130 --> 01:28:35.180 With that, I will open it up for any questions 01:28:35.180 --> 01:28:36.343 that you all may have. 01:28:40.560 --> 01:28:44.763 Please everybody, just go ahead and speak up. 01:28:45.739 --> 01:28:47.143 I don't see everybody. 01:28:48.630 --> 01:28:52.750 I just have a question about some of the water providers. 01:28:52.750 --> 01:28:54.670 I think in some of the early PSPS, 01:28:54.670 --> 01:28:57.110 some of the rural and tribal communities 01:28:57.110 --> 01:29:00.210 that were using electric pumps had some difficulty 01:29:00.210 --> 01:29:02.370 being able to access their water systems 01:29:02.370 --> 01:29:04.610 and what you've been doing to coordinate 01:29:04.610 --> 01:29:08.007 with water service providers during PSPS events. 01:29:09.260 --> 01:29:12.753 Right, so in terms of some of the customers, 01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:16.750 we've heard about customers that have had water wells 01:29:16.750 --> 01:29:19.680 and had difficulty accessing water in the past, 01:29:19.680 --> 01:29:23.610 so we not only have water trucks at our CRCs 01:29:23.610 --> 01:29:26.760 during an event, but we also offer customers 01:29:26.760 --> 01:29:31.010 that are using systems like a water well, 01:29:31.010 --> 01:29:35.090 we offer them generators and we also offer them 01:29:37.970 --> 01:29:40.640 eligibility for our generator assistance programs. 01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:43.180 So not only generators do we offer 01:29:43.180 --> 01:29:46.410 but we also offer them rebates for generators as well. 01:29:46.410 --> 01:29:49.410 So we've been trying to close that gap 01:29:49.410 --> 01:29:52.073 in terms of customers, and most of the customers 01:29:52.073 --> 01:29:54.160 that we've heard have that problem, 01:29:54.160 --> 01:29:56.053 were customers that had water wells. 01:29:58.870 --> 01:29:59.950 Thank you. 01:29:59.950 --> 01:30:03.160 Have you continued keeping a list of those customers? 01:30:03.160 --> 01:30:06.373 How do you catalog them? 01:30:07.710 --> 01:30:10.460 Yes, we continue to keep a list of our customers 01:30:10.460 --> 01:30:12.830 that have special equipment like that 01:30:12.830 --> 01:30:16.290 in addition to our regular promotion of 01:30:17.960 --> 01:30:19.160 what to do during events. 01:30:19.160 --> 01:30:23.660 So we promote through social media, 01:30:23.660 --> 01:30:27.380 through flyers, through our PSPS app, 01:30:27.380 --> 01:30:29.800 whichever way we can communicate with the customers, 01:30:29.800 --> 01:30:32.300 we're continuing that promotion effort 01:30:32.300 --> 01:30:33.930 to get the word out to contact us, 01:30:33.930 --> 01:30:35.270 so the more information we have 01:30:35.270 --> 01:30:37.003 the better we can provide support. 01:30:38.370 --> 01:30:41.470 Okay. I have a quick question on your CRC. 01:30:41.470 --> 01:30:44.240 I know you said you added one this year, 01:30:44.240 --> 01:30:46.360 just a couple quickly. 01:30:46.360 --> 01:30:48.150 Were you asked to add that one 01:30:48.150 --> 01:30:49.970 or did you all make that assessment yourself 01:30:49.970 --> 01:30:53.210 or was that a coordination with local authorities 01:30:53.210 --> 01:30:55.210 that you decided you really needed that? 01:30:56.890 --> 01:30:59.385 I'm gonna answer but I'm also going to open it up 01:30:59.385 --> 01:31:01.430 to one of my colleagues. 01:31:01.430 --> 01:31:05.170 I believe that we always are striving for improvement 01:31:05.170 --> 01:31:08.410 so when we see that there's impacted areas that we're seeing 01:31:08.410 --> 01:31:11.380 based on the historical data that we have, 01:31:11.380 --> 01:31:13.960 we move and we make modifications. 01:31:13.960 --> 01:31:16.410 In this case, I think Fallbrook's one of those areas 01:31:16.410 --> 01:31:19.490 that we saw had a need and so we made an adjustment 01:31:19.490 --> 01:31:21.770 to have a CRC there, 01:31:21.770 --> 01:31:25.110 but I'll open it up to Alex or Danielle 01:31:25.110 --> 01:31:26.900 if there's anything that I'm missing 01:31:26.900 --> 01:31:28.423 in terms of coordination. 01:31:33.210 --> 01:31:35.333 Okay, their silences. That was it. 01:31:36.430 --> 01:31:41.267 Were there any public authorities or organizations 01:31:42.570 --> 01:31:47.297 who had asked for more CRCs, who you all said, 01:31:47.297 --> 01:31:49.151 eh, don't think so. 01:31:49.151 --> 01:31:50.730 Are there any that you were requested 01:31:50.730 --> 01:31:53.940 to put together and didn't? 01:31:53.940 --> 01:31:56.910 Commissioner Batjer, not to my knowledge. 01:31:56.910 --> 01:31:58.240 I'll follow up with the team 01:31:58.240 --> 01:32:00.640 and circle back you if I've misspoken, 01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:02.520 but I think everything that we've done 01:32:02.520 --> 01:32:05.510 is based on what we have identified 01:32:05.510 --> 01:32:08.073 as opportunities within our service territory. 01:32:09.350 --> 01:32:13.180 Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. 01:32:13.180 --> 01:32:17.380 Yes, Commissioner Guzman and then Commissioner Shiroma. 01:32:17.380 --> 01:32:18.653 Guzman Aceves, excuse me. 01:32:19.520 --> 01:32:24.460 Thank you Tashonda, and I think it's very notable 01:32:24.460 --> 01:32:26.730 to see the progress that you guys have made with, 01:32:26.730 --> 01:32:29.790 in particular, the last conversation we had around 01:32:30.860 --> 01:32:32.560 tribal nations in your territory. 01:32:32.560 --> 01:32:33.980 So I wanted to acknowledge that, 01:32:33.980 --> 01:32:37.393 seems to have made a lot of follow through there. 01:32:38.670 --> 01:32:42.563 I had a clarification on your customer notification, 01:32:43.430 --> 01:32:48.430 does someone need to have the app to get a text? 01:32:52.399 --> 01:32:55.430 So we communicate to customers 01:32:55.430 --> 01:32:57.860 also through our ENS system. 01:32:57.860 --> 01:33:01.000 So whatever primary number we have on file, 01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:04.160 we will send ENS messages out to our customers, 01:33:04.160 --> 01:33:06.733 but if they find us through the PSPS mobile app, 01:33:06.733 --> 01:33:09.330 then they will also get notifications that way, 01:33:09.330 --> 01:33:12.030 but that's not the only way, that's one of the methods 01:33:12.030 --> 01:33:13.923 that they can receive a notification. 01:33:15.240 --> 01:33:20.240 Okay, is that E-M-S? It an N, as in Nancy. 01:33:22.890 --> 01:33:24.993 Okay ENS so that's, 01:33:27.738 --> 01:33:31.870 is that a voice message or you texting that also? 01:33:31.870 --> 01:33:35.040 It's an outbound dialer, but the outbound dialer 01:33:35.040 --> 01:33:38.060 provides phone call, email and text. 01:33:38.060 --> 01:33:39.300 Okay, excellent. 01:33:39.300 --> 01:33:42.140 So if you have all three of those contact info, 01:33:42.140 --> 01:33:43.440 they're getting all three? 01:33:44.540 --> 01:33:46.880 Or do they have a preferred? 01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:48.950 Yeah, so one thing that we've learned, 01:33:48.950 --> 01:33:51.230 and this is really an area of opportunity, 01:33:51.230 --> 01:33:54.470 we could have multiple phone numbers for a customer 01:33:54.470 --> 01:33:57.940 and we can send communications out to every single number, 01:33:57.940 --> 01:33:59.500 but when time is of the essence, 01:33:59.500 --> 01:34:01.680 we usually pick the primary number 01:34:01.680 --> 01:34:04.790 and the primary form of communication 01:34:04.790 --> 01:34:07.500 that that customer has asked us to communicate with. 01:34:07.500 --> 01:34:10.603 So that helps us get the notifications out faster. 01:34:12.228 --> 01:34:14.228 But we have the ability to do all three. 01:34:16.420 --> 01:34:19.000 I see, but they're only receiving one form, 01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:22.530 so when I signed up for service 01:34:22.530 --> 01:34:25.820 and I said my preferred is voice, 01:34:25.820 --> 01:34:27.913 I'm going to get a voice message. 01:34:28.790 --> 01:34:32.350 Correct? Correct. Okay. 01:34:32.350 --> 01:34:34.790 Okay, you know it's an interesting thought 01:34:34.790 --> 01:34:38.150 and it's just something from our other side of the world 01:34:38.150 --> 01:34:40.040 here on the telecommunication side, 01:34:40.040 --> 01:34:41.360 what we've seen is... 01:34:43.430 --> 01:34:46.800 I wonder if there's just maybe a dual or a default 01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:51.800 to have, at minimum, the text notification. 01:34:52.820 --> 01:34:56.650 I don't know, I know my kids' school, 01:34:56.650 --> 01:34:58.900 they send a voicemail and they send me a text 01:35:00.830 --> 01:35:03.020 and an email, they send all three actually. 01:35:03.020 --> 01:35:07.730 So, but it is important to know 01:35:07.730 --> 01:35:09.800 the customer's preferred form of communication, 01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:12.460 particularly for disability purposes. 01:35:12.460 --> 01:35:15.940 But there has been some recent data 01:35:15.940 --> 01:35:20.340 showing that text communication 01:35:20.340 --> 01:35:24.710 is the kind of choice number one. 01:35:24.710 --> 01:35:26.360 I don't know if you've seen that. 01:35:27.200 --> 01:35:29.643 I haven't seen that but I think that, 01:35:30.750 --> 01:35:34.610 you know, we walk a fine line 'cause we want to make sure 01:35:34.610 --> 01:35:37.250 that we get to them the quickest way possible 01:35:37.250 --> 01:35:40.590 and we also want to make sure that we don't over communicate 01:35:40.590 --> 01:35:43.300 and bog them down during an event. 01:35:43.300 --> 01:35:45.040 So I hear you loud and clear 01:35:45.040 --> 01:35:46.600 and I think this is one of the areas 01:35:46.600 --> 01:35:48.550 where we will continuously investigate 01:35:48.550 --> 01:35:51.020 and poll our customers to see the best way 01:35:51.020 --> 01:35:52.720 that we can communicate with them. 01:35:54.240 --> 01:35:56.810 And on your language, is that also something 01:35:56.810 --> 01:35:59.380 that was self-selected by the customer? 01:35:59.380 --> 01:36:03.120 Are you defaulting to bilingual 01:36:03.120 --> 01:36:05.633 or are you just doing English for now? 01:36:06.990 --> 01:36:10.110 We have bilingual and the customer has the option 01:36:10.110 --> 01:36:12.973 to pick the language, their preferred language. 01:36:14.809 --> 01:36:16.083 I'll find out- 01:36:17.920 --> 01:36:20.610 I'll get an answer if it defaults to English, 01:36:20.610 --> 01:36:24.670 that I'm not completely sure if they have to deselect that, 01:36:24.670 --> 01:36:27.093 but I'll find out for you and get clarification. 01:36:27.950 --> 01:36:29.890 And from what I understand, 01:36:29.890 --> 01:36:32.423 you have 21 prevalent languages. 01:36:33.470 --> 01:36:35.630 We do. So the customer can select, 01:36:35.630 --> 01:36:37.963 okay, they can select among the 21. 01:36:39.190 --> 01:36:43.490 Yes, and we also work with our community based 01:36:43.490 --> 01:36:46.370 organizations who have access to over 200. 01:36:46.370 --> 01:36:50.820 So we're trying our best to get communication 01:36:50.820 --> 01:36:53.020 to the customer in their preferred language. 01:36:54.540 --> 01:36:56.690 And final question around this is, 01:36:56.690 --> 01:36:59.490 how does the customer select that? 01:36:59.490 --> 01:37:01.033 When does that occur? 01:37:03.030 --> 01:37:07.073 In terms of how does the mobile app work? 01:37:08.370 --> 01:37:11.100 Right, let's say I'm a customer in Sunny Seasons, 01:37:11.100 --> 01:37:16.093 and I've been an SDG&E customer for 30 years, 01:37:18.570 --> 01:37:22.680 how do I now, I guess you're not very high fire risk there, 01:37:22.680 --> 01:37:25.260 maybe somewhere up, a little higher up, 01:37:25.260 --> 01:37:26.893 but you know, where do they, 01:37:28.610 --> 01:37:30.910 how do they know to do that selection 01:37:30.910 --> 01:37:33.773 or do you kind of do some outreach to them? 01:37:36.723 --> 01:37:37.960 Yes, we do outreach to them 01:37:37.960 --> 01:37:40.950 and they provide their preferred language to us. 01:37:40.950 --> 01:37:44.743 So that is through some of our outreach efforts as well. 01:37:46.661 --> 01:37:47.494 Okay. 01:37:47.494 --> 01:37:50.120 We reach out to our customers throughout the year 01:37:50.120 --> 01:37:53.850 and promote our programs and when promoting the programs, 01:37:53.850 --> 01:37:56.280 then talking to them to sign up for various programs, 01:37:56.280 --> 01:37:58.853 we ask them what their preferred language is. 01:38:00.100 --> 01:38:02.660 I see. Okay, thank you. 01:38:02.660 --> 01:38:04.610 Commissioner Shiroma? 01:38:04.610 --> 01:38:06.680 Yes, thank you. 01:38:06.680 --> 01:38:09.967 My question is partially answered by your slide 7 01:38:10.822 --> 01:38:14.949 and the appendix about radio PSAs for folks 01:38:14.949 --> 01:38:18.760 who are internet savvy or app savvy or tech savvy, 01:38:18.760 --> 01:38:23.760 or what have you, but what about television. 01:38:23.931 --> 01:38:27.630 For example, my dad, for quite some time, 01:38:27.630 --> 01:38:28.690 his main source of information 01:38:28.690 --> 01:38:31.493 has been from television news. 01:38:35.425 --> 01:38:37.823 Do you have a television effort, 01:38:41.294 --> 01:38:45.360 which I know is expensive, but PSA or the newscasters 01:38:45.360 --> 01:38:47.073 if you have journalist outreach. 01:38:48.360 --> 01:38:50.123 Yes. Thank you for that question. 01:38:50.123 --> 01:38:53.023 It's an excellent question because I think the assumption 01:38:53.023 --> 01:38:55.040 is that a lot of our customers, 01:38:55.040 --> 01:38:57.605 you know, we're in the digital age and the fact is 01:38:57.605 --> 01:38:59.790 that we have a lot of customers that are not. 01:38:59.790 --> 01:39:03.420 So, we utilize radio broadcast media, 01:39:03.420 --> 01:39:06.820 we currently have commercials going on right now. 01:39:06.820 --> 01:39:11.420 So our customers get information about PSPS, 01:39:11.420 --> 01:39:14.184 how to sign up for different programs. 01:39:14.184 --> 01:39:18.683 So, we do communicate through broadcast media and radio. 01:39:21.870 --> 01:39:22.703 Thank you. 01:39:22.703 --> 01:39:27.703 We also have road signs, flyers, marquees, 01:39:27.963 --> 01:39:32.390 signage on buses, wherever we think we can reach 01:39:33.360 --> 01:39:35.523 more of our population, mobile home parks, 01:39:36.500 --> 01:39:39.053 we continue to promote that way as well. 01:39:41.830 --> 01:39:44.790 And this is a question for Mr. Jenkins, 01:39:44.790 --> 01:39:49.300 on slide 23, covered conductors, 01:39:49.300 --> 01:39:53.603 it says the probability with (audio glitch) is 20%, 01:39:53.603 --> 01:39:56.210 does that mean that there's a notion 01:39:56.210 --> 01:39:59.960 that the current conductor is 80% effective 01:39:59.960 --> 01:40:02.657 in preventing wildfires, 01:40:06.280 --> 01:40:08.890 or is that the way to look at that one? 01:40:08.890 --> 01:40:11.463 On slide 23, in your appendix. 01:40:12.400 --> 01:40:14.640 Yes. That is correct. 01:40:14.640 --> 01:40:17.163 We're saying it's 80% effective at reducing the risk. 01:40:17.163 --> 01:40:20.590 I mean, it's still energized equipment in the air, 01:40:20.590 --> 01:40:23.050 so there are things that that can happen, 01:40:23.050 --> 01:40:25.470 but it greatly reduces the risk. 01:40:27.239 --> 01:40:28.139 Okay. Thank you. 01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:37.620 I have another question, I don't see another hand up, 01:40:37.620 --> 01:40:40.570 again, you've got to speak up 'cause I can't see everybody. 01:40:41.741 --> 01:40:43.791 And I think this goes to Mr. Jenkins, but 01:40:45.870 --> 01:40:49.623 in terms of your notifications, 01:40:52.799 --> 01:40:57.220 have you actually done a exercise, not a tabletop, 01:40:57.220 --> 01:41:02.220 but an actual exercise, to test a full-scale exercise, 01:41:05.360 --> 01:41:08.550 really, to test all of the systems. 01:41:08.550 --> 01:41:11.090 I mean, I'm going back to the slide 01:41:11.090 --> 01:41:13.570 that had all of the detail on it. 01:41:13.570 --> 01:41:17.977 Have you actually run through with all of those involved, 01:41:17.977 --> 01:41:19.830 the actual exercise? 01:41:19.830 --> 01:41:21.660 I think you've done some tabletops 01:41:21.660 --> 01:41:26.660 but I don't recall being notified of a actual exercise. 01:41:28.890 --> 01:41:33.890 Yeah, we have conducted two PSPS exercises thus far. 01:41:34.040 --> 01:41:37.900 We have a third scheduled for this month of August. 01:41:37.900 --> 01:41:41.460 The first one included external stakeholders 01:41:41.460 --> 01:41:42.860 that we interact with. 01:41:42.860 --> 01:41:46.740 So, Cal OES and County OES, 01:41:48.760 --> 01:41:51.210 and various other stakeholders 01:41:51.210 --> 01:41:52.717 that are involved in the process, 01:41:52.717 --> 01:41:55.823 and so we do conduct exercises on PSPS. 01:41:57.220 --> 01:41:59.250 There were obviously learnings on that, 01:41:59.250 --> 01:42:00.520 that you're incorporating in 01:42:00.520 --> 01:42:05.520 and implementing prior to middle of August, end of August? 01:42:06.340 --> 01:42:09.770 Yeah, every event and every exercise, 01:42:09.770 --> 01:42:12.080 we do a detailed after action review process 01:42:12.080 --> 01:42:14.830 to identify lessons learned and create action items 01:42:14.830 --> 01:42:16.303 to address those things. 01:42:19.071 --> 01:42:21.021 Okay. A follow up question to that 01:42:21.940 --> 01:42:23.560 can you be a little bit more explicit 01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:26.110 in what some of those lessons learned were 01:42:26.110 --> 01:42:29.690 in this year's exercises that you're then planning on 01:42:29.690 --> 01:42:32.940 trying to implement prior to say September 1, 01:42:32.940 --> 01:42:37.940 and then also in the stakeholders that you guys tested with, 01:42:39.590 --> 01:42:42.450 can you confirm whether telecommunications companies 01:42:42.450 --> 01:42:47.450 were there and any customer tests actual to consumers? 01:42:50.970 --> 01:42:54.050 I'm going to have to ask one of my colleagues on the line 01:42:54.050 --> 01:42:57.080 if they have some examples of lessons learned, 01:42:57.080 --> 01:43:00.770 as well as if we've invited communication companies 01:43:00.770 --> 01:43:04.653 to the exercise, were those your questions, Caroline? 01:43:05.660 --> 01:43:07.080 Correct. Thank you. 01:43:07.080 --> 01:43:09.873 And consumers, if they got any test notifications. 01:43:11.180 --> 01:43:13.710 I'm pretty sure consumers did not get test notifications, 01:43:13.710 --> 01:43:15.580 I'm pretty sure that didn't happen, 01:43:15.580 --> 01:43:18.710 but maybe Jonathan Woldemariam, I believe you're on, 01:43:18.710 --> 01:43:22.023 do you have any information related to those two questions? 01:43:24.389 --> 01:43:27.139 (computer tones) 01:43:30.388 --> 01:43:32.050 Sorry, I was trying to unmute, 01:43:32.050 --> 01:43:33.080 took me a little bit. 01:43:33.080 --> 01:43:34.993 Yeah, communication providers, 01:43:36.250 --> 01:43:41.250 we have them participate in our after action reviews 01:43:42.820 --> 01:43:45.630 and so they participate in that 01:43:45.630 --> 01:43:48.473 and then the messaging that we have 01:43:48.473 --> 01:43:53.130 with the campaign to ask them for any feedback. 01:43:53.130 --> 01:43:55.210 So we have them participate in that, 01:43:55.210 --> 01:43:59.607 but not in the PSPS exercises that we have. 01:44:03.057 --> 01:44:04.610 And I'm getting some messages 01:44:04.610 --> 01:44:07.120 from our emergency management manager. 01:44:07.120 --> 01:44:08.570 She said a couple of the examples were, 01:44:08.570 --> 01:44:11.950 more clear messaging for our public safety partners 01:44:11.950 --> 01:44:14.370 as part of the last event, 01:44:14.370 --> 01:44:16.840 and then messages that they can actually just cut and paste 01:44:16.840 --> 01:44:18.180 to their social media. 01:44:18.180 --> 01:44:21.143 That was one of the lessons learned, or a couple. 01:44:24.500 --> 01:44:26.620 Think flyers were as well, right? 01:44:26.620 --> 01:44:29.340 Some of the messaging we're doing on billboards, 01:44:29.340 --> 01:44:32.100 road signs, while it seems really good canvas of feedback, 01:44:32.100 --> 01:44:33.810 previous events. 01:44:33.810 --> 01:44:35.310 Yeah, you're correct, Kevin. 01:44:38.010 --> 01:44:39.643 I know one of the issues with Telecom last year, 01:44:39.643 --> 01:44:43.081 at least, had been the consolidation of messaging 01:44:43.081 --> 01:44:45.030 because they were sort of getting over communicated 01:44:45.030 --> 01:44:47.413 'cause it was going to different stakeholders. 01:44:48.684 --> 01:44:51.490 Is that something that's specifically with San Diego 01:44:51.490 --> 01:44:54.803 and your key com providers, has that issue been addressed? 01:44:58.420 --> 01:45:01.570 I know, and I'll take this one, John. 01:45:01.570 --> 01:45:06.570 We've done a really full effort to work with them 01:45:07.220 --> 01:45:12.220 to get the right communication, the primary contact 01:45:12.620 --> 01:45:15.020 of their communication companies on file. 01:45:15.020 --> 01:45:18.493 So then account executives, they work in my organization, 01:45:18.493 --> 01:45:20.504 each of the six telecom companies 01:45:20.504 --> 01:45:23.910 has a account executive that they work directly with, 01:45:23.910 --> 01:45:28.230 so we can get an update to see if things are going better 01:45:28.230 --> 01:45:31.000 from their perspective, but we've done a really good job, 01:45:31.000 --> 01:45:34.020 in our point of view, to communicate with them, 01:45:34.020 --> 01:45:36.380 have regular meetings with them, make sure we have 01:45:36.380 --> 01:45:39.290 updated information for their contacts on file 01:45:39.290 --> 01:45:42.410 and that they're aware of our plans 01:45:42.410 --> 01:45:44.680 for the upcoming fire season 01:45:44.680 --> 01:45:46.960 and they're part of the preparedness plan. 01:45:46.960 --> 01:45:50.303 So, we feel like we've done a better job in that area. 01:45:58.280 --> 01:46:00.450 Well we tend to hear from them if you haven't, 01:46:00.450 --> 01:46:03.800 so we'll let you know. (laughing) 01:46:03.800 --> 01:46:06.713 I'm sure you will. Keep us accountable. 01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:12.210 And Tashonda, I didn't mean to cut you off. 01:46:12.210 --> 01:46:13.277 I think you were on your last slide 01:46:13.277 --> 01:46:16.640 and we kind of stopped or we hopped around 01:46:16.640 --> 01:46:18.740 asking other questions, were you completed 01:46:18.740 --> 01:46:20.713 with your part of the presentation? 01:46:21.640 --> 01:46:24.580 I was, I was just going to turn it over to Kevin Geraghty 01:46:24.580 --> 01:46:27.273 to close us out. Okay. 01:46:28.840 --> 01:46:31.210 One thing that I would mention about 01:46:31.210 --> 01:46:33.720 our relationships with telecom companies, 01:46:33.720 --> 01:46:36.830 I think that's one thing that people learning 01:46:36.830 --> 01:46:38.420 and working from home during COVID 01:46:38.420 --> 01:46:41.530 really dramatically increased the engagement 01:46:41.530 --> 01:46:45.280 between utilities and the telecommunications companies. 01:46:45.280 --> 01:46:48.120 Very quickly, we reached some common understandings 01:46:48.120 --> 01:46:50.880 and jointly supported each other on projects 01:46:50.880 --> 01:46:52.730 and increasing bandwidth, et cetera. 01:46:52.730 --> 01:46:55.140 I wasn't long with the company last year 01:46:55.140 --> 01:46:57.490 when I found myself in a couple of meetings 01:46:57.490 --> 01:46:59.850 looking for us to prioritize some work 01:46:59.850 --> 01:47:02.920 to actually improve the work from home experience, 01:47:02.920 --> 01:47:05.800 and I found that to continue. 01:47:05.800 --> 01:47:07.560 I would only, I know we're way over 01:47:07.560 --> 01:47:09.990 and I would just hope that, first of all, 01:47:09.990 --> 01:47:12.120 I appreciate the time this afternoon, 01:47:12.120 --> 01:47:13.610 but I hope what we took away 01:47:13.610 --> 01:47:18.120 is that SDG&E has continued to improve and advance. 01:47:18.120 --> 01:47:20.033 We have done, when I think about just year over year, 01:47:20.033 --> 01:47:23.483 we were doing more underground, more covered conductor, 01:47:24.450 --> 01:47:26.770 better and more customer communications, 01:47:26.770 --> 01:47:29.590 we are offering more conveniences year over year 01:47:29.590 --> 01:47:31.850 when I think about our or CRCs, 01:47:31.850 --> 01:47:34.130 and some of those are direct feedback 01:47:34.130 --> 01:47:35.850 that happened from within events. 01:47:35.850 --> 01:47:38.880 We're obviously doing more inspections, more training, 01:47:38.880 --> 01:47:41.070 more batteries, and more technology. 01:47:41.070 --> 01:47:43.280 So, I started in the beginning as saying, 01:47:43.280 --> 01:47:45.070 what drives us is each and every year, 01:47:45.070 --> 01:47:45.903 we're going to do more. 01:47:45.903 --> 01:47:47.710 We're going to find one way to just 01:47:47.710 --> 01:47:50.170 make it a better experience for one more customer 01:47:50.170 --> 01:47:52.310 and I think back over the past year 01:47:52.310 --> 01:47:54.794 that we've demonstrated that 01:47:54.794 --> 01:47:56.043 and we're going to continue to do more 01:47:56.043 --> 01:47:57.940 through this season as well. 01:47:57.940 --> 01:48:00.250 And just thank you again for the opportunity 01:48:00.250 --> 01:48:03.683 to present on behalf of our colleagues here today. 01:48:04.810 --> 01:48:06.950 Well thank you, Mr. Geraghty, and I apologize 01:48:06.950 --> 01:48:10.073 for the mispronunciation of your name when we started, 01:48:11.060 --> 01:48:15.053 but then a last name like Batjer, spelled with a J, 01:48:16.430 --> 01:48:18.820 not that gives me a right to mispronounce 01:48:18.820 --> 01:48:22.760 anybody else's name, but I apologize for that. 01:48:22.760 --> 01:48:26.240 It was your first presentation before us, as you noted. 01:48:26.240 --> 01:48:30.981 Are there any other questions of any of the members 01:48:30.981 --> 01:48:32.950 of the company at this point in time? 01:48:32.950 --> 01:48:34.950 Any follow up questions that anyone has? 01:48:34.950 --> 01:48:37.100 Again, speak up 'cause I can't see you all. 01:48:38.360 --> 01:48:40.900 President Batjer, is Daniel from Cal FIRE. 01:48:40.900 --> 01:48:42.103 Absolutely Chief. 01:48:43.060 --> 01:48:45.080 Real quick question and actually this kind of dovetails 01:48:45.080 --> 01:48:46.900 on the comment we just made about the fact 01:48:46.900 --> 01:48:48.830 that you're doing more inspections, 01:48:48.830 --> 01:48:51.880 but I just want to note, on slide six, 01:48:51.880 --> 01:48:54.930 you have some statistics related 01:48:54.930 --> 01:48:56.420 to the inspections that you're doing, 01:48:56.420 --> 01:48:59.980 both on distribution and transmission lines. 01:48:59.980 --> 01:49:02.300 And the question that I have is, 01:49:02.300 --> 01:49:04.930 the slide specifically says that you're on target, 01:49:04.930 --> 01:49:07.620 and I was curious what the on target date is. 01:49:07.620 --> 01:49:09.770 Obviously here we are in August, 01:49:09.770 --> 01:49:13.000 so we're well over halfway through the calendar year, 01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:15.260 and by my math, those numbers only add up 01:49:15.260 --> 01:49:17.660 to about 6% of what you're trying to get done, 01:49:17.660 --> 01:49:21.330 and so, is your target to get that number done 01:49:21.330 --> 01:49:22.990 by the end of the calendar year, 01:49:22.990 --> 01:49:25.450 before the Santa Ana season? 01:49:25.450 --> 01:49:27.730 Because obviously, even you noted, 01:49:27.730 --> 01:49:28.910 you're already in a heat wave 01:49:28.910 --> 01:49:30.850 and there's already fire conditions 01:49:30.850 --> 01:49:31.740 that are extreme down there. 01:49:31.740 --> 01:49:34.640 So just curious what on target means for your inspections? 01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:37.510 Yeah, for those particular ones, 01:49:37.510 --> 01:49:38.950 those are by the end of the year, 01:49:38.950 --> 01:49:41.320 and so we have all kinds of inspections, 01:49:41.320 --> 01:49:43.780 we do infrared inspections, we do visual inspections, 01:49:43.780 --> 01:49:48.480 we do aerial patrols and we do patrol even prior to event 01:49:48.480 --> 01:49:51.150 in specific areas where we're expecting 01:49:51.150 --> 01:49:54.670 the weather to show up, but these are the drone inspections 01:49:54.670 --> 01:49:58.150 where we're getting high definition digital photographs 01:49:58.150 --> 01:49:59.950 of all different angles of the pole, 01:49:59.950 --> 01:50:01.633 specifically from the top view. 01:50:02.540 --> 01:50:05.997 We have 40 to 50 drone crews out right now. 01:50:05.997 --> 01:50:08.597 The information on this slide is a little stale too, 01:50:10.289 --> 01:50:15.289 and they do 20 a day each, so we get quite a bit done. 01:50:16.660 --> 01:50:20.470 I'd appreciate if you could provide us updated numbers, 01:50:20.470 --> 01:50:21.920 even if it's a bit old. 01:50:21.920 --> 01:50:25.430 Again, no disrespect, but 6% in August 01:50:25.430 --> 01:50:30.430 just seems woefully below your own targeted goal 01:50:30.920 --> 01:50:32.910 and so, we would be interested to see 01:50:32.910 --> 01:50:35.078 maybe the differences between when the slide was made 01:50:35.078 --> 01:50:37.120 with where you are today. 01:50:37.120 --> 01:50:40.128 Okay, I'd be glad to follow up with additional information 01:50:40.128 --> 01:50:42.189 and when we expect to be complete. 01:50:42.189 --> 01:50:43.116 Okay, thank you. 01:50:43.116 --> 01:50:46.090 And would you please make sure that the CPUC and OES 01:50:46.090 --> 01:50:51.090 and OEIS also receives those Mr. Jenkins. 01:50:53.070 --> 01:50:54.037 Will do. 01:50:54.037 --> 01:50:56.596 'Cause I was concerned about the same thing 01:50:56.596 --> 01:50:59.750 and I'm also concerned on that same slide 01:50:59.750 --> 01:51:04.100 that only 40% of your vegetation management goals 01:51:05.989 --> 01:51:10.530 have been completed, only 35% were completed since 2019, 01:51:10.530 --> 01:51:12.530 if I'm reading that correctly. 01:51:12.530 --> 01:51:15.543 So again, similar to the chief's question, 01:51:16.490 --> 01:51:19.030 what is your timeline to complete by 2021 01:51:19.030 --> 01:51:22.760 because the fire season is bearing down heavily on us 01:51:22.760 --> 01:51:26.080 and I think, chief, I think the other issue 01:51:26.080 --> 01:51:29.070 that you all have is folks out there 01:51:29.070 --> 01:51:32.700 in high fire danger areas with equipment, 01:51:32.700 --> 01:51:37.700 making veg management kinds of decisions and implementing 01:51:40.240 --> 01:51:44.520 that there are dangers when we are as dry 01:51:44.520 --> 01:51:46.300 and as hot as we are right now. 01:51:46.300 --> 01:51:49.740 I think that Chief Porter's mentioned that in the past, 01:51:49.740 --> 01:51:53.130 that at one point it becomes even dangerous 01:51:53.130 --> 01:51:54.380 to do veg management 01:51:54.380 --> 01:51:56.787 because we're deep in the fire season 01:51:56.787 --> 01:51:59.750 and we've got some pretty bad conditions out there. 01:51:59.750 --> 01:52:01.870 Yeah President, I would just echo, 01:52:01.870 --> 01:52:04.210 completely agree with what you said, 01:52:04.210 --> 01:52:05.530 understand that utilities are required 01:52:05.530 --> 01:52:07.540 to take additional precautions 01:52:07.540 --> 01:52:09.880 for work being done during fire season, 01:52:09.880 --> 01:52:12.290 but remember, we tell the public to stop doing 01:52:12.290 --> 01:52:13.570 their vegetation management 01:52:13.570 --> 01:52:15.680 and ensure they have their defensible space 01:52:15.680 --> 01:52:17.733 really by May and by June, 01:52:19.177 --> 01:52:21.000 and while San Diego traditionally sees 01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:23.780 the more destructive fires later in the season, 01:52:23.780 --> 01:52:25.710 I would hope that the company would take 01:52:25.710 --> 01:52:28.870 the same responsibility that we give to the public 01:52:28.870 --> 01:52:30.413 and the same advice, and that is get some 01:52:30.413 --> 01:52:33.300 of that veg management done earlier in the year, 01:52:33.300 --> 01:52:35.653 not during the peak of fire season. 01:52:37.690 --> 01:52:39.930 And I would just like to take the opportunity 01:52:39.930 --> 01:52:41.680 to clarify a little bit if I could. 01:52:43.000 --> 01:52:47.120 We already, in all cases in the high fire threat district, 01:52:47.120 --> 01:52:49.670 go above and beyond the legal requirements 01:52:49.670 --> 01:52:51.790 of, I believe, it's six and a half feet. 01:52:51.790 --> 01:52:54.300 We have 12 feet in every location 01:52:54.300 --> 01:52:56.880 in our high fire threat district, 12 feet of clearance. 01:52:56.880 --> 01:52:59.660 What our enhanced vegetation management program is, 01:52:59.660 --> 01:53:03.620 is identifying 81,000 trees that are more problematic, 01:53:03.620 --> 01:53:05.700 that are the five species that I mentioned, 01:53:05.700 --> 01:53:08.500 and going above and beyond, even the above and beyond, 01:53:08.500 --> 01:53:11.090 we go to 12 and going up to 25 feet 01:53:11.090 --> 01:53:13.560 for that population of 81,000. 01:53:13.560 --> 01:53:16.150 When we put it in our wildfire mitigation plan, 01:53:16.150 --> 01:53:20.760 again, this takes a lot of work with land owners 01:53:20.760 --> 01:53:25.240 and property owners to be able to do this 01:53:25.240 --> 01:53:27.037 and so we made it a five-year plan. 01:53:27.037 --> 01:53:29.230 And so these are just our goals as part of that, 01:53:29.230 --> 01:53:34.230 again, going above and beyond the legal requirements 01:53:34.450 --> 01:53:35.500 that we already have. 01:53:40.056 --> 01:53:41.550 President Batjer? 01:53:41.550 --> 01:53:44.280 Yes, Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:53:44.280 --> 01:53:47.100 Yeah John, earlier you mentioned there has been 01:53:47.100 --> 01:53:52.100 five contacts, I think, to the ground, 01:53:52.780 --> 01:53:54.250 if I have understood you correctly 01:53:54.250 --> 01:53:56.680 and you mentioned that one was an ignition, 01:53:56.680 --> 01:53:58.403 but then you mentioned something after that 01:53:58.403 --> 01:54:00.993 that I didn't quite catch. 01:54:02.580 --> 01:54:06.900 So, we've had five contacts in our HFTD. 01:54:06.900 --> 01:54:08.470 So five times the vegetation 01:54:08.470 --> 01:54:10.980 has caused an outage to our system. 01:54:10.980 --> 01:54:14.230 We've had one ignition caused by vegetation 01:54:14.230 --> 01:54:17.650 in the entire system that happened outside the HFTB. 01:54:17.650 --> 01:54:19.923 So the ignition that happened was not even in the HFTD, 01:54:19.923 --> 01:54:22.660 that's the point I was trying to make. 01:54:22.660 --> 01:54:24.073 Okay. Thank you. 01:54:25.490 --> 01:54:27.900 I wondered the same, so thank you very much, 01:54:27.900 --> 01:54:30.640 Commissioner Guzman Aceves for asking that question, 01:54:30.640 --> 01:54:32.480 I had it written down and I skipped over it, 01:54:32.480 --> 01:54:34.280 so thank you for that clarification. 01:54:36.010 --> 01:54:38.337 I did have an additional question, 01:54:38.337 --> 01:54:40.480 and this goes to the recognition 01:54:40.480 --> 01:54:44.090 that much as a prevention, moving forward, 01:54:44.090 --> 01:54:48.920 could be enhanced by greater telecommunication capability. 01:54:48.920 --> 01:54:53.810 And you mentioned you're building your own LTD network 01:54:53.810 --> 01:54:56.770 and that's something I would like to 01:54:56.770 --> 01:54:58.820 follow up with you offline. 01:54:58.820 --> 01:55:00.830 And we just want to acknowledge, also, 01:55:00.830 --> 01:55:03.780 that as part of the Governor's executive order 01:55:03.780 --> 01:55:06.990 from last year, we did order the utilities 01:55:06.990 --> 01:55:09.340 to propose pilot projects 01:55:09.340 --> 01:55:12.330 where the overlap of hardening work 01:55:12.330 --> 01:55:15.190 and the un-served community, 01:55:15.190 --> 01:55:17.980 just as you need to communicate with your systems, 01:55:17.980 --> 01:55:20.860 it's important to communicate with those areas. 01:55:20.860 --> 01:55:23.380 And I did want to acknowledge that San Diego, 01:55:23.380 --> 01:55:26.870 SDG&E discount forward is a potential pilot 01:55:26.870 --> 01:55:31.870 with the Rincon Nations, so I look forward to hearing 01:55:32.140 --> 01:55:36.000 more details and working more with you on that. 01:55:36.000 --> 01:55:36.833 Thank you. 01:55:38.556 --> 01:55:40.813 I'll be glad to follow up with you, Commissioner. 01:55:43.600 --> 01:55:48.600 Okay. Again, please raise your hand or shout. 01:55:49.200 --> 01:55:50.887 Well, don't raise your hand, speak up, 01:55:50.887 --> 01:55:52.613 'cause I can't see everybody. 01:55:54.370 --> 01:55:59.230 Any other questions of the company at this time? 01:55:59.230 --> 01:56:04.230 Okay. I'm not seeing any. 01:56:04.700 --> 01:56:07.610 And so I really want to, again, 01:56:07.610 --> 01:56:12.100 thank the representatives of the San Diego Gas and Electric 01:56:12.100 --> 01:56:14.300 for the presentations today. 01:56:14.300 --> 01:56:18.740 And we are pretty much on time, believe it or not, 01:56:18.740 --> 01:56:21.410 because we have mixed our questions of you all 01:56:23.810 --> 01:56:26.870 in the presentation and I hope those interruptions 01:56:26.870 --> 01:56:29.500 weren't troubling to you, but I think it makes things 01:56:29.500 --> 01:56:31.180 more timely when we do it that way. 01:56:31.180 --> 01:56:33.647 So I appreciate that indulgence. 01:56:39.640 --> 01:56:44.640 So, we are really now at 4:05 and then, 01:56:44.780 --> 01:56:46.540 I see that it's 4:03, 01:56:46.540 --> 01:56:49.580 we are at the public comment portion of our agenda 01:56:49.580 --> 01:56:51.640 and I please ask that all of the members 01:56:51.640 --> 01:56:54.790 of the San Diego Gas and Electric company remain 01:56:54.790 --> 01:56:58.133 so you can hear the public comment with us. 01:57:00.360 --> 01:57:05.360 So as a reminder, if you do wish to make a public comment, 01:57:05.670 --> 01:57:10.500 please dial into 1-800-857-1917, 01:57:13.955 --> 01:57:16.923 enter pass code 7218384# 01:57:22.550 --> 01:57:24.353 and please press *1. 01:57:26.973 --> 01:57:29.100 You will be placed into a queue 01:57:29.100 --> 01:57:32.720 and the operator will take your name and organization, 01:57:32.720 --> 01:57:35.870 there may be a delay from the time you press *1 01:57:36.850 --> 01:57:38.330 so please be patient. 01:57:39.170 --> 01:57:42.250 The operator will ask you for your information 01:57:42.250 --> 01:57:46.110 and then you will be put into the queue 01:57:46.110 --> 01:57:47.820 and you can stay online, please. 01:57:47.820 --> 01:57:50.210 Again, I want to remind the public 01:57:50.210 --> 01:57:53.090 that we have allotted two minutes, 01:57:53.090 --> 01:57:55.880 two minutes for each speaker, 01:57:55.880 --> 01:57:59.900 and you will hear a bell when your time is up 01:57:59.900 --> 01:58:04.510 and I just ask that you listen for that bell 01:58:04.510 --> 01:58:06.500 because you will be taking up time 01:58:06.500 --> 01:58:09.520 from other important members of our public 01:58:09.520 --> 01:58:11.700 who also want to comment. 01:58:11.700 --> 01:58:14.817 So operator, the first commenter, please, 01:58:14.817 --> 01:58:16.167 if you could bring them on. 01:58:18.240 --> 01:58:21.530 Thank you, the public comment line is now open 01:58:21.530 --> 01:58:24.750 and our first speaker is Melissa Kasnitz, 01:58:24.750 --> 01:58:25.763 your line is open. 01:58:28.670 --> 01:58:30.690 Thank you. Can you hear me? 01:58:30.690 --> 01:58:33.333 We can, Melissa. 01:58:33.333 --> 01:58:35.400 Thank you, this is Melissa Kasnitz, 01:58:35.400 --> 01:58:36.460 I'm the legal director 01:58:36.460 --> 01:58:39.180 with the Center for Accessible Technology, 01:58:39.180 --> 01:58:41.860 an active participant in the Commission proceedings 01:58:41.860 --> 01:58:45.230 regarding de-energization, representing the interests, 01:58:45.230 --> 01:58:48.980 of people with disabilities and medical vulnerabilities, 01:58:48.980 --> 01:58:52.003 who, as we all know, are particularly susceptible to harm. 01:58:52.900 --> 01:58:54.380 I've been fighting a losing battle 01:58:54.380 --> 01:58:57.380 against the name of public safety power shutoff, 01:58:57.380 --> 01:58:59.520 because I still believe that the utilities 01:58:59.520 --> 01:59:02.040 have not convincingly shown that these shutoffs 01:59:02.040 --> 01:59:05.570 enhance public safety, but it is a convenient acronym, 01:59:05.570 --> 01:59:09.040 so it just seems to be moving forward. 01:59:09.040 --> 01:59:12.460 I want to say that I appreciate the utilities notice 01:59:12.460 --> 01:59:14.790 that they're learning from their experience 01:59:14.790 --> 01:59:17.500 and the improvements that they're making a real, 01:59:17.500 --> 01:59:20.330 but also note that they come at great cost 01:59:20.330 --> 01:59:22.990 to the people who have been impacted. 01:59:22.990 --> 01:59:25.330 A learning experience for the utility 01:59:25.330 --> 01:59:28.920 usually is based on a bad experience for the customer 01:59:28.920 --> 01:59:31.250 that the utility then learns from. 01:59:31.250 --> 01:59:33.360 So we can't forget the hardships 01:59:33.360 --> 01:59:37.420 that people have been facing and this is unfortunate 01:59:37.420 --> 01:59:41.470 because most of the harms, the C for AT has said repeatedly, 01:59:41.470 --> 01:59:44.360 has been predictable and predicted. 01:59:44.360 --> 01:59:46.430 In particular, the distress faced 01:59:46.430 --> 01:59:50.070 by people with disabilities and medical vulnerabilities 01:59:50.070 --> 01:59:52.240 were identified well before the rollout 01:59:52.240 --> 01:59:54.360 of the power shutoff program 01:59:54.360 --> 01:59:56.170 and so some things are unfortunate 01:59:56.170 --> 01:59:58.623 that it's taken this long to actually develop. 01:59:59.640 --> 02:00:01.820 In particular, the balance of risks 02:00:01.820 --> 02:00:04.320 still needs further development. 02:00:04.320 --> 02:00:07.680 SDG&E shared with great pride the development of their data 02:00:07.680 --> 02:00:10.070 for interpreting the fire risk, 02:00:10.070 --> 02:00:11.430 but we're still in early days 02:00:11.430 --> 02:00:13.340 regarding the public safety risks 02:00:13.340 --> 02:00:16.870 that people experience during the power shutoffs. 02:00:16.870 --> 02:00:20.370 I'd like to see more development and more discussion 02:00:20.370 --> 02:00:22.670 of how the risks that people experience 02:00:22.670 --> 02:00:27.020 during extended power outages are evaluated, 02:00:27.020 --> 02:00:32.020 how they're put into some sort of numerical form 02:00:32.280 --> 02:00:35.120 and how the analysis is actually done 02:00:35.120 --> 02:00:37.760 when comparing the risks of power shutoff 02:00:37.760 --> 02:00:40.680 to the fire risks that people experience. 02:00:40.680 --> 02:00:41.783 Thank you very much. 02:00:43.920 --> 02:00:45.580 Thank you, Melissa and I'm sorry, 02:00:45.580 --> 02:00:48.510 I started by saying yes, Elizabeth. 02:00:48.510 --> 02:00:51.761 I heard Elizabeth, but I don't know why I heard that. 02:00:51.761 --> 02:00:54.020 I didn't even hear it, but no problem. 02:00:54.020 --> 02:00:56.197 Thank you, President Batjer. 02:00:57.860 --> 02:01:00.851 Operator, the next caller, please. 02:01:00.851 --> 02:01:03.430 Thank you, our next caller is Karina Gonzalez. 02:01:03.430 --> 02:01:04.333 Your line is open. 02:01:06.930 --> 02:01:08.050 Good afternoon, everyone. 02:01:08.050 --> 02:01:10.870 My name is Karina Gonzalez and I am a rate payer 02:01:10.870 --> 02:01:15.650 in SDG&E service territory, living in Chula Vista. 02:01:15.650 --> 02:01:19.020 As SDG&E struggles to make transmission lines safe, 02:01:19.020 --> 02:01:21.110 costing rate payers billions of dollars 02:01:21.110 --> 02:01:23.440 in wildfire mitigation efforts, 02:01:23.440 --> 02:01:26.420 they are also actively fighting rooftop solar, 02:01:26.420 --> 02:01:28.730 which is the only way we will reduce 02:01:28.730 --> 02:01:31.230 the amount of long transmission lines needed 02:01:31.230 --> 02:01:33.140 that are causing wildfires. 02:01:33.140 --> 02:01:35.710 Rooftop solar and storage will not only save 02:01:35.710 --> 02:01:37.820 rate payers billions of dollars per year, 02:01:37.820 --> 02:01:40.700 but will also make our communities more resilient 02:01:40.700 --> 02:01:43.120 to public power safety shutoff events, 02:01:43.120 --> 02:01:46.070 yet SDG&E and the other investor owned utilities 02:01:46.070 --> 02:01:49.180 are trying to make it harder for people to go solar 02:01:49.180 --> 02:01:52.430 by making drastic cuts to net energy metering. 02:01:52.430 --> 02:01:56.240 PSPS events should be used as a last resort 02:01:56.240 --> 02:01:58.740 and as we heard from Cal FIRE, 02:01:58.740 --> 02:02:02.630 that we are heading into a more devastating wildfire season. 02:02:02.630 --> 02:02:05.240 I would like to urge the CPUC Commissioners 02:02:05.240 --> 02:02:10.240 to hold SDG&E accountable for more frequent PSPS events 02:02:10.862 --> 02:02:14.300 in a time where the climate crisis is rapidly accelerating, 02:02:14.300 --> 02:02:17.230 summers are getting hotter and winters are becoming drier 02:02:18.170 --> 02:02:20.250 and wildfires will become more and more common. 02:02:20.250 --> 02:02:22.470 Let's focus on building grid resilience 02:02:22.470 --> 02:02:24.610 with local rooftop solar. 02:02:24.610 --> 02:02:25.920 Commissioners, I would like to urge you 02:02:25.920 --> 02:02:28.680 to recognize the benefits that rooftop solar and storage 02:02:28.680 --> 02:02:33.680 can bring in in terms of reducing PSPS event impact 02:02:33.970 --> 02:02:36.070 and reducing utility transmission lines 02:02:36.070 --> 02:02:38.500 and adopt a strong net energy metering 02:02:38.500 --> 02:02:41.540 that will allow solar and storage to continue to grow. 02:02:41.540 --> 02:02:42.373 Thank you. 02:02:46.660 --> 02:02:50.483 Thank you, caller. Operator, the next caller, please. 02:02:51.825 --> 02:02:54.393 Our next caller is Tara Hammond. 02:02:54.393 --> 02:02:56.403 Hammond, your line is open. 02:02:57.490 --> 02:02:59.720 Good afternoon President Batjer and Commissioners, 02:02:59.720 --> 02:03:00.990 my name is Tara Hammond. 02:03:00.990 --> 02:03:03.050 I'm the founder of Hammond Climate Solutions 02:03:03.050 --> 02:03:04.960 located in San Diego. 02:03:04.960 --> 02:03:08.560 We have seen SDG&E burn down huge parts of our county, 02:03:08.560 --> 02:03:10.260 killing our residents and animals 02:03:10.260 --> 02:03:12.330 while destroying native habitats. 02:03:12.330 --> 02:03:14.260 We continued to watch SDG&E 02:03:14.260 --> 02:03:16.820 and its parent company, Sempra Energy, 02:03:16.820 --> 02:03:19.090 keep us addicted to dirty fossil fuels 02:03:19.090 --> 02:03:20.940 and attack rooftop solar, 02:03:20.940 --> 02:03:23.370 worsening climate racism in California 02:03:23.370 --> 02:03:25.550 and accelerating the climate crisis, 02:03:25.550 --> 02:03:29.183 which often impacts communities of concern first and worst. 02:03:30.220 --> 02:03:32.720 We can avoid many future power outages. 02:03:32.720 --> 02:03:34.930 We should be investing in resilient communities 02:03:34.930 --> 02:03:38.230 by installing more local rooftop solar and energy storage, 02:03:38.230 --> 02:03:40.150 not building costly transmission lines 02:03:40.150 --> 02:03:42.670 through desert servers that have previously caught on fire 02:03:42.670 --> 02:03:44.240 due to transmission lines, 02:03:44.240 --> 02:03:47.000 which increase the investor and utilities profits. 02:03:47.000 --> 02:03:49.640 I implore you to hold SDG&E accountable 02:03:49.640 --> 02:03:51.800 and adopt a strong net metering 3.0 02:03:51.800 --> 02:03:54.290 to allow rooftop solar to grow sustainably 02:03:54.290 --> 02:03:55.840 as directed by law. 02:03:55.840 --> 02:03:57.870 Reducing fires, lessening the impacts 02:03:57.870 --> 02:04:00.470 of climate injustices in the climate crisis 02:04:00.470 --> 02:04:02.200 and making our grid more resilient 02:04:02.200 --> 02:04:05.400 while keeping rates significantly lower for all rate payers. 02:04:05.400 --> 02:04:06.233 Thank you. 02:04:09.350 --> 02:04:11.863 Thank you, operator the next caller, please. 02:04:12.750 --> 02:04:15.000 Our next caller is Shayla Ott, 02:04:15.000 --> 02:04:15.903 your line is open. 02:04:18.429 --> 02:04:20.220 Good afternoon, President Batjer 02:04:20.220 --> 02:04:22.190 and Commissioners, my name is Shayla 02:04:22.190 --> 02:04:27.150 and I'm a resident of San Diego and an SDG&E rate payer. 02:04:27.150 --> 02:04:30.390 Myself and others in SDG&E's territory 02:04:30.390 --> 02:04:33.470 have not only contributed to the million dollars 02:04:33.470 --> 02:04:37.470 of profit plus per day that SDG&E makes off of our city, 02:04:37.470 --> 02:04:39.960 but also have contributed to the billions of dollars 02:04:39.960 --> 02:04:42.670 that go towards wildfire mitigation efforts 02:04:42.670 --> 02:04:46.110 and long transmission lines that cause wildfires. 02:04:46.110 --> 02:04:48.400 SDG&E and their parent company, Sempra, 02:04:48.400 --> 02:04:50.590 are constantly fighting the various solutions 02:04:50.590 --> 02:04:52.780 that we have to reduce wildfires 02:04:52.780 --> 02:04:56.073 and exorbitant transmission line costs. 02:04:56.910 --> 02:04:59.160 Rooftop solar and storage are those solutions 02:04:59.160 --> 02:05:00.690 that will make us more resilient 02:05:00.690 --> 02:05:02.690 to public safety power shutoffs 02:05:02.690 --> 02:05:05.520 and help prevent further destruction to plant life, 02:05:05.520 --> 02:05:08.300 wildlife habitats and our communities. 02:05:08.300 --> 02:05:11.510 Additionally, SDG&E is also significantly behind 02:05:11.510 --> 02:05:14.720 on undergrounding which would also reduce fires. 02:05:14.720 --> 02:05:17.140 Rooftop solar and storage will reduce the need 02:05:17.140 --> 02:05:19.200 for transmission lines and the wildfires 02:05:19.200 --> 02:05:20.430 that are a result of those, 02:05:20.430 --> 02:05:23.460 by saving rate payers billions of dollars. 02:05:23.460 --> 02:05:26.270 Our grid can and should be made more resilient now 02:05:26.270 --> 02:05:28.010 with partnership from SDG&E 02:05:28.010 --> 02:05:30.280 rather than them acting against the interests 02:05:30.280 --> 02:05:33.170 of their rate payers by fighting that energy metering. 02:05:33.170 --> 02:05:34.233 Thank you so much. 02:05:37.100 --> 02:05:40.097 Thank you, operator, the next caller please. 02:05:41.380 --> 02:05:44.630 President Batjer, there are no more speakers 02:05:44.630 --> 02:05:46.593 in the public comment telephone line. 02:05:48.070 --> 02:05:51.500 Okay, operator could you just make another announcement 02:05:51.500 --> 02:05:55.850 of how people can sign up if they wish to get in the lineup. 02:05:55.850 --> 02:05:57.840 We'll wait just a moment to see if there's anybody 02:05:57.840 --> 02:05:59.590 that's had difficulties getting in. 02:06:02.950 --> 02:06:05.403 If you would like to make a comment, 02:06:05.403 --> 02:06:09.970 please press star then one on your telephone keypad, 02:06:09.970 --> 02:06:13.290 record your name at the prompt so I may introduce you. 02:06:13.290 --> 02:06:15.710 Again, if you would like to make a comment, 02:06:15.710 --> 02:06:17.643 please press star then one. 02:06:33.740 --> 02:06:36.490 (computer tones) 02:06:38.220 --> 02:06:42.160 Okay, operator. Has anybody else joined us? 02:06:42.160 --> 02:06:46.940 Yes, we do have one commenter, Ted Howard. 02:06:46.940 --> 02:06:48.100 Your line is open. 02:06:49.413 --> 02:06:50.810 Hi, thank you, yes, this is Ted Howard 02:06:50.810 --> 02:06:53.680 with small businesses utility advocates 02:06:53.680 --> 02:06:56.280 and I've noted over the past couple of decades 02:06:56.280 --> 02:06:59.210 there seems to be a shifting analysis 02:06:59.210 --> 02:07:03.470 of the relative benefits of undergrounding 02:07:03.470 --> 02:07:07.970 versus high wire or unprotected wires 02:07:07.970 --> 02:07:11.330 and I'm wondering where the cost benefit analysis comes out 02:07:11.330 --> 02:07:12.930 when looking at undergrounding, 02:07:12.930 --> 02:07:16.140 covered conductors and distributed energy resources, 02:07:16.140 --> 02:07:19.550 such as solar, wood storage, NEM 3.0, 02:07:19.550 --> 02:07:21.160 all these alternatives. 02:07:21.160 --> 02:07:22.640 I'm very interested in knowing 02:07:22.640 --> 02:07:26.800 where the benefits versus cost analysis comes out now 02:07:26.800 --> 02:07:30.000 given the increasing risk of wildfires, 02:07:30.000 --> 02:07:32.570 and so I would like to follow up with that one. 02:07:32.570 --> 02:07:35.170 If there's any comment now I'd appreciate that, 02:07:35.170 --> 02:07:37.520 and otherwise I'd like to follow up, thank you. 02:07:41.370 --> 02:07:44.130 Typically we don't answer comments 02:07:44.130 --> 02:07:46.300 during the public comment period, 02:07:46.300 --> 02:07:51.300 but if SDG&E has a study underway or one that is public 02:07:53.590 --> 02:07:57.073 that you've posted, perhaps you could remark on that. 02:08:02.744 --> 02:08:06.580 If not, maybe we can get some followup information 02:08:06.580 --> 02:08:09.183 to us as well. 02:08:10.760 --> 02:08:14.360 Okay operator, any other questions, 02:08:14.360 --> 02:08:18.083 any other members of the public calling in? 02:08:19.450 --> 02:08:23.010 I'm showing no further comments at this time. 02:08:23.010 --> 02:08:24.640 Okay, thank you, operator. 02:08:24.640 --> 02:08:26.120 With no more callers on the line, 02:08:26.120 --> 02:08:28.750 the public comment period is closed. 02:08:28.750 --> 02:08:33.330 So again, I'd like to thank you all for joining us today 02:08:33.330 --> 02:08:37.930 and for all the very important, informative briefing 02:08:37.930 --> 02:08:40.640 and important discussions and I want to thank those 02:08:40.640 --> 02:08:43.610 who have called in, your comments 02:08:43.610 --> 02:08:45.610 are very important to us and well noted. 02:08:47.200 --> 02:08:51.280 And I also, of course, want to thank my colleagues, 02:08:51.280 --> 02:08:55.200 my esteemed colleagues from Cal OES, 02:08:55.200 --> 02:08:58.160 from Cal FIRE and OES for joining us today 02:08:58.160 --> 02:09:01.480 and I appreciate very much the questions you also asked 02:09:01.480 --> 02:09:03.650 and the dialogue we were able to have. 02:09:03.650 --> 02:09:06.280 We look forward to hearing tomorrow 02:09:07.230 --> 02:09:10.790 from SoCal Edison, and PG&E. 02:09:10.790 --> 02:09:15.010 So please all join us for those presentations, 02:09:15.010 --> 02:09:20.010 and again, I thank SDG&E for your presentation today 02:09:20.540 --> 02:09:22.937 and for your time. Thank you very much. 02:09:22.937 --> 02:09:25.437 This meeting is now adjourned.