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Thank
you for your patience.
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California Public
Utilities Commission
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on this day, Monday, August 2nd, 2021.
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President Batjer, you may begin.
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Thank you operator
and hello everyone,
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thank you for joining us
today for a public briefing
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from the San Diego Gas
and Electric Company
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on its readiness for the public
safety power shutoff event
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for this wild fire season.
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Today's briefing from SDG&E is the first
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in a series of four public briefings
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we are holding this week.
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We will hear from
Southern California Edison
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and Pacific Gas and Electric tomorrow.
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And on Wednesday, we will
hear from Bear Valley Electric,
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Liberty Utilities and from Pacific Core.
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I'm honored today to be
joined on this virtual dias
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from representatives from
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the California Governor's
Office of Emergency Services,
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the California Department of
Forestry and Fire Protection
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and the Office of Emergency
Infrastructure Safety,
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that would be Chief Deputy Tina Curry,
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who will be joining shortly,
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CAL FIRE's Chief Berlant and
OES Caroline Thomas Jacobs,
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as well as my fellow Commissioners,
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Commissioner Rechtschaffen,
Commissioner Guzman Aceves,
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Commissioner Shiroma,
and Commissioner Houck,
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we all welcome you.
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In terms of the format
for today's briefing,
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following opening remarks from the dias
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SDG&E senior vice
president of electric operations
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and safety officer, Kevin Geraghty
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will provide an overview of
SDG&E's state of preparedness
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for the PSPS events,
this wildfire season.
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We will then move on
to discussion and Q&A
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from the Commissioners
and panelists on the dias,
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followed by public comment.
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We are scheduled to
conclude today at 5:00 pm.
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For the public comment
portion of today's meeting,
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which will begin at 3:05,
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if you wish to make a public comment,
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You will be called upon to speak
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and we will provide two
minutes, let me repeat that,
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we will provide two
minutes to each speaker.
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So please be minded of the time.
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I will keep my opening remarks brief
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so that the majority of our time today
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can be used to ensure
the public is able to hear
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from SDG&E on their
state of preparedness.
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With climate change
driven weather events
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and the drought conditions we are facing
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throughout the West,
our wildfire seasons
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are starting earlier and ending later,
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and they are persistently more severe.
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2020 into early 2021
was a very long fire season
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and Californians experienced
a significant number
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of power shutoffs by their utilities.
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In fact, up until mid
January, the majority utilities
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were continuing to call
power shut off events.
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This year there have
already been over 5,600 fires
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that have burned over
480,000 acres in California
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and it is only the beginning of August.
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We have already entered
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a long and very
difficult wildfire season.
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While the legislature,
our sister agencies,
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and the CPUC are driving the utilities
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to plan for and execute approaches
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to reduce the risk of
utility caused wildfires
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to better weather forecasting,
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grid hardening and
vegetation management.
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One of the tools that
is available to utilities
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is to shut off power to customers.
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Unlike other mitigation strategies,
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these proactive power
shutoffs have very real
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and direct impacts to customers.
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It is trading individual
risk to customers
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for wildfire risk.
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This trade-off is why PSPS
events must always be
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a measure of last resort.
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At risk in a PSPS
event are people's lives
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and their livelihoods.
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We have continually
emphasized to the utilities
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that when they shut off the power
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people's lives are up ended
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and for those who rely on power
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to sustain life supporting
medical devices,
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the consequences of loss of power
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are far beyond inconvenience,
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they are indeed and can be deadly.
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SDG&E and other
utilities have the obligation
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to manage their grids responsibly
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and they have the
obligation to keep the safety
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and wellbeing of their customers
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as their absolute highest priority.
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With that understanding,
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while PSPS is not a sustainable approach
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to reducing wildfire, we
must ensure that if and when
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the utilities do decide
to shut off power,
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they are prepared to
execute and communicate
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in a way that minimizes
the impact of the event,
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CPUC staff and the staff
at our sister agencies,
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Cal OES, Cal FIRE, and
OEIS have met regularly
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with SDG&E and other
utilities to oversee their efforts
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to reduce the use, scope,
and impact of any PSPS event.
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At the outset I want to
convey my appreciation
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for the frontline workers
across the utilities
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who have worked diligently
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to implement the improvements needed,
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both in wildfire mitigation measures
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and the PSPS implementation.
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Notably, SDG&E has
longer term experience
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with PSPS events
than the other utilities.
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This experience has caused PG&E and SCE
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to look to SDG&E for insight
on how they can execute
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PSPS events in a manner that reduces
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impact on their customers.
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For example, following SDG&E's lead
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in using 211 to distribute
PSPS information
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to those who may be
impacted by the power shutoff.
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Last year, we saw improvements
from SDG&E in planning
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of its community resource centers,
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but SDG&E must still make improvements
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in the areas of information sharing
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with state and local agencies,
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greater deployment in its
battery backup programs,
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particularly to its medically
vulnerable customers,
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and in implementing, quote,
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no noticing the
energization, end of quote.
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Throughout the next few
days I am eager to hear
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from all of the utilities
on their progress this year
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to mitigate the impacts of
power shutoffs on people
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who rely on electricity
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to maintain necessary life functions,
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including for durable medical equipment
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and assisted technology,
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assistive, excuse me,
assistive technology.
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I and my fellow Commissioners
are focused on ensuring
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that the utilities improve
outreach and notification
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to all customers with
particular focus on customers
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with access and functional (indistinct).
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This is the second year we have required
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these public briefings
and with more maturity
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I am expecting more details,
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thoughtfulness and accountability
in these presentations.
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We need specifics on
where you have improved,
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where you are lagging
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and where you're
focusing your resources.
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As I said many times before,
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the utilities will be judged
by outcome, not by plans.
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With that, I will say that I'm
very much looking forward
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to getting into the specifics
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and having a good dialogue today.
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I will now turn to our representatives
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from Cal OES, Cal FIRE and OEIS,
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formally the Wildfire
Safety Division of the CPUC.
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If you have any opening
remarks, please do share now
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and then, when you all are completed,
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I will ask my fellow Commissioners
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for any opening remarks
that they might have.
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Okay, Cal OES, do you have any comments
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you would like to make at this time?
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Good afternoon,
Marybel this is Tina Curry,
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chief deputy at Cal OES,
hopefully you can hear me okay.
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Yes I can Tina,
thank you so much.
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Absolutely.
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I'm having some technical
difficulties, sorry about that.
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I will look forward to the presentation.
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I will not give any
opening at this time,
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other than to echo your very
thorough and opening remarks,
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which we completely agree with
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and I just look forward
to the opportunity to hear
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where we are, now,
a couple of years into
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this PSPS process that we now know
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and also the improvements
that have been made
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and the opportunity to ask questions.
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I just greatly appreciate
that, to be included,
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including Cal OES in the
meeting today, so thanks a lot.
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And we very much
appreciate Cal OES
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being a part of this very
important dialogue today,
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so thank you, Tina.
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And Chief Berlant, do
you have any comments
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you'd like to make for
on behalf of Cal FIRE?
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Yes, thank you, Chair
Batjer, I would just comment,
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I don't want to be too
much of a parrot of last year,
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because last year in our same briefings,
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I think I mentioned how busy
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the fire season already was back then
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and this year we are off to
a quite a significant increase,
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even compared to last year.
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In fact, with much of the state
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now being under drought
conditions, with wildfires starting,
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as you mentioned, earlier and earlier,
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and again, this year, we
have seen a significant increase
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in the number of fires
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and even the acres burned
compared to last year
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and we know how last
year ended, not very well.
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San Diego County not hit as hard
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as other parts of the state
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and so definitely interested to hear
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what progress may have
been made down with SDG&E
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over the past year, focusing really on
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the goals of the
wildfire mitigation plans,
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specifically the vegetation management,
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the infrastructure hardening,
and the inspections,
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because like you said,
from our perspective,
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those two are where we
really need to keep the focus
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and really ensure that
PSPSs are a last resort effort.
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So with that, appreciate being here
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and look forward to hearing more
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of what is to come, so thank you.
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And we so appreciate
Cal FIRE's participation.
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It's absolutely critical,
just as the participation
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of OES is as well.
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And now I will turn to
Caroline Thomas Jacobs
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for any remarks that
you might have, Caroline?
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Thank you President
Batjer, really appreciate
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the opportunity to be
here with you all today.
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As Chief Deputy Curry mentioned,
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I also echo all of what you just said.
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I think you covered it really well
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and Chief Berlant covered the threat
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and the focus on wildfire mitigation,
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ultimately being the focus area
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in terms of getting us
out of this in the future.
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Did want to just make one
additional comment, that for me,
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I'm really interested in
hearing from SDG&E today
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on what they're doing
to reduce their need
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for the frequency of
calling PSPS events.
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It was notable to us
over last year's season,
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when you look at a normalized basis,
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that the PG&E and
Edison were able to reduce,
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even with the increase
and red flag warning days
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and the threat on a normalized basis.
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Again, reduce the number of times
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they had to call the customer hours,
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but for San Diego it actually went up.
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So I'm looking forward to
hearing some the improvements
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they've made in
preparation for this season,
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and particularly around
minimizing the impact
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on the customers,
because as you mentioned,
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President Batjer, when
they do have to call it,
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there is a very, very real
impact on the customers
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that are impacted by it.
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Thank you very much,
Caroline, and we absolutely,
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your participation here is
very critical, so thank you.
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All right, I will turn to
my fellow Commissioners
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for any opening remarks.
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Please speak up if you have any.
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Yes, Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
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I just want to
notice that Caroline
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has a much nicer backdrop
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than she ever did when
she was at the PacSun.
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I was going to request,
President Batjer,
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if I could get a backdrop like that
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for the next meeting we have.
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Well, not if it takes you
leaving this agency for another,
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as Caroline did.
(everyone laughing)
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Okay.
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And so thank you,
Cliff. Any other remarks,
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opening remarks from the Commissioners?
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Yes, Commissioner Houck.
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Just briefly, I wanted to thank
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our executive director, Rachel Peterson,
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Lee Palmer, our director of
safety enforcement division
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and Anthony Knoll and their team
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for all of the work
they did in coordinating
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and for the agencies that are here today
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and I'm looking forward
to hearing from SDG&E
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on what they're continuing to do
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and how they're learning from
and understanding the impacts
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of risks and benefits of the PSPS events
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and I hope to hear how they plan
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to apply the lessons
they've learned in the past
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to this and future wildfire seasons,
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particularly for California's
most vulnerable populations,
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and I thank you for your
participation in today's event
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and look forward to
listening and learning more
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throughout the week.
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Thank you, Commissioner Houck,
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and I join you in thanking our staff
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for putting on the events of
today, as well as this week.
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These are not done lightly
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and they take an awful lot of work.
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So, I'm so appreciative
of Rachel Peterson
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and the entire CPUC team,
including my own advisor,
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Nora Hawkins for all of
her hard work, so thank you.
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Commissioner, I don't
see any other hands up.
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Okay, thank you.
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With that, we will then turn
to our presentation of the day.
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We will now turn to Kevin Geraghty,
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SDG&E's senior vice
president of electric operations
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and chief safety officer to present
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the SDG&E 2021 Wildfire
& PSPS Preparations.
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So Kevin, please, I welcome you
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and we look forward
to your presentation.
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It is scheduled for 60 minutes.
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Good afternoon, just
a quick sound check,
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am I coming across okay?
Yes, you are.
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Thank you very much.
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All right, great.
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Hey, good afternoon everyone
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and thank you for this opportunity
to come before you today
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to discuss San Diego Gas
and Electric's readiness
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for the 2021 wildfire season
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and the potential for
public safety power shutoffs.
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My name is Kevin Geraghty,
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I am the senior vice
president for electric operations
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at SDG&E and I also serve
as its chief safety officer.
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Joining me today to present
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our preparedness for
PSPS as a last resort
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will be John Jenkins,
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he's our vice-president for
electric system operations.
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And to Tashonda Taylor,
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she's our vice president
for customer operations.
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I will discuss San Diego Gas
and Electric's overall culture
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and approach to wildfire and
public safety power shutoffs
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and John will provide a deeper dive
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into exactly how we are
focused on purposefully
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reducing the scope and
duration of PSPS events
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through design projects and
our operational decision-making.
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He will also provide a high level status
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of specific elements of
our wildfire mitigation plan
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that reduces the scope duration
and impact of PSPS in 2021,
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including critical
vegetation management.
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Tashonda will provide a deeper dive
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into our focus on
customers and communities,
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and especially, and specifically,
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our engagement with
our public safety partners,
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and especially our focus on access
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and functional needs customers.
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If we could go to
the first slide, please.
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Okay thank you, it's an
honored to this presentation.
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This is my first presentation
before the CPUC
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and to do that on behalf of
my colleagues at SDG&E,
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and especially on behalf of
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our chief executive
officer, Caroline Winn.
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I think it's important
to highlight the culture
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and expectation of all of
our colleagues at SDG&E
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with regards to our PSPS preparedness.
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Caroline shared these
last year, these values,
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these goals, and they are unchanged
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and they will remain forever unchanged.
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First, we will do whatever it takes
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to prevent catastrophic wildfires.
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We will also do whatever it takes
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to minimize the duration,
scope and impact of PSPS.
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It does remain our option of last resort
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to prevent catastrophic wildfires.
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And then finally we will strengthen
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our overall customer and
community preparedness,
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our response and our resiliency.
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First, we absolutely recognize
the impact that PSPS events
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have on our customers
and our communities.
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So many of us, including me,
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live within the high
fire threat district.
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John, Tashonda and I
don't just lead organizations
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that manage PSPS events,
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we are active in our
emergency management teams
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and the final decision to de-energize
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based on our situational awareness
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and the risk to our
communities is ours to make.
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That decision is not delegated.
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So we take that very seriously.
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In many cases, our
colleagues are impacted
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by our own decision-making,
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but we do so as an absolute last resort
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to avoid catastrophic wildfires
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and we do understand
the impacts to businesses,
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local and tribal governments, schools,
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and most vulnerable
members of our communities
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and what I've really learned
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a great appreciation for at SDG&E.
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We've gained that
understanding through very deep,
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meaningful engagements
with our communities
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and we continue to grow
and adjust our understanding
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by growing that engagement
and collaboration.
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And while we do appreciate the fact
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that there were no
utility related wildfires
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within the SDG&E territory
over the past two years,
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our culture simply does not
allow those positive outcomes
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to slow down our focus
on continuous improvement
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or to challenge ourselves
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to serve our customers
and communities better.
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That is an everyday living
experience with SDG&E.
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And that culture has been
achieved through experience,
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through lessons learned
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and by organizational
design and leadership.
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We are goal-driven,
we include safety goals
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and public safety goals, including goals
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that improve our PSPS preparedness
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that reduces scope, duration and impact.
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And Caroline, including
through our board of directors,
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has created an organization at SDG&E
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that assures all of our
colleagues that there are no,
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and never can be, any shortcuts,
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regarding safety,
including public safety
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and it is a value we live
every day in all that we do,
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not just in PSPS.
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Next slide, please.
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Our Wildfire Risk Management Plans
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detail the planning
behind our obligation
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to manage grid responsibly,
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but also to manage
the safety and wellbeing
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of our customers and our communities.
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It does detail our plans to leverage
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and enhance our situational awareness,
00:21:08.050 --> 00:21:10.190
our grid hardening
efforts, and our plans
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to improve the scope,
duration, and impact from PSPS,
00:21:13.220 --> 00:21:16.530
including our ability to
execute as a last resort.
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It also assures our
customers and communities
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are provided enough notice
and detail to be prepared.
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Over the past year, we have enhanced
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our capabilities of preparedness.
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You'll hear some of those today.
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We do that through intense
collaboration and communication
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via feedback from customers,
public safety partners,
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town halls, open houses,
community fairs, and especially
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our Wildfire Safety
Community Advisory Council,
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all or most of which of those
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had to be virtual this past year,
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including our community
resource centers,
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without any loss in effectiveness,
00:21:53.140 --> 00:21:54.770
without any loss in learning
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and certainly without any
loss in feedback to improve.
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We could not get better
without that feedback,
00:22:00.612 --> 00:22:03.612
that engagement and that
collaboration with our communities.
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No matter the experience
and expertise of our team,
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the most important part of
our PSPS preparation is to train,
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practice and drill so that
we are working cohesively
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and effectively when the time approaches
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to inform our communities of a pending
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fire weather risk and PSPS risk.
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And we do this so to
afford our customers,
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our communities and
our public safety partners,
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the greatest of time for preparation.
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Having joined the company last July,
00:22:37.780 --> 00:22:41.640
being thrust into what was a
very remarkable fire season
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and low curtailment season,
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I can tell you the
intensity of preparation,
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the resiliency of the team at SDG&E
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has been very impressive.
00:22:49.600 --> 00:22:53.490
While I spent years learning
how SDG&E manages this risk,
00:22:53.490 --> 00:22:54.883
actually being embedded with it
00:22:54.883 --> 00:22:58.083
just was really an
eyeopening experience.
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If I can go to my last slide, please.
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I think it's very important to highlight
00:23:05.209 --> 00:23:08.920
the continuous improvement
journey at SDG&E.
00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:12.090
It has, since the beginning,
really been about getting data
00:23:12.929 --> 00:23:15.040
and using the data to
inform decision-making
00:23:15.040 --> 00:23:17.940
and to create the best
awareness system possible
00:23:17.940 --> 00:23:19.670
for our customers, right?
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If the term fire safe, if
you will, on this slide,
00:23:23.100 --> 00:23:26.190
it's like the version of a
safety management system
00:23:26.190 --> 00:23:29.200
that we're using it SDG&E
to keep communities safe
00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:31.020
from catastrophic wildfires
00:23:31.020 --> 00:23:34.830
and to reduce the scope,
duration and impacts on PSPS.
00:23:34.830 --> 00:23:38.230
It is incredible to think back in 2008,
00:23:38.230 --> 00:23:42.030
SDG&E was using field
personnel with handheld devices
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in the field to capture
00:23:43.250 --> 00:23:46.240
real-time meteorological information,
00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:48.230
but critical foundations were laid then,
00:23:48.230 --> 00:23:50.570
with at that early work to collect data.
00:23:50.570 --> 00:23:51.930
We knew we needed more data.
00:23:51.930 --> 00:23:54.930
So really, what
happened was the creation
00:23:54.930 --> 00:23:57.210
of the greatest meteorological network
00:23:57.210 --> 00:23:59.970
and a great team of
meteorologists was formed
00:23:59.970 --> 00:24:03.350
and was the creation of
our aerial services division.
00:24:03.350 --> 00:24:05.930
And so starting back in 2011,
00:24:05.930 --> 00:24:09.010
the investment in that
meteorological situational awareness
00:24:09.010 --> 00:24:11.940
started to pay off, it created modeling
00:24:11.940 --> 00:24:15.030
and created our very
first weather alerts.
00:24:15.030 --> 00:24:17.390
It also gave us an understanding
00:24:17.390 --> 00:24:21.030
of precisely where we
needed to harden our system
00:24:21.030 --> 00:24:24.510
and the creation of
PSPS came at that time
00:24:24.510 --> 00:24:27.726
and that was because our
new modeling could show
00:24:27.726 --> 00:24:31.850
that there was the potential
of catastrophic wildfire risk
00:24:31.850 --> 00:24:35.880
if we operate our systems
above certain wind thresholds
00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:38.048
when fire weather was present.
00:24:38.048 --> 00:24:40.930
In our most recent
history is Fire Safe 3.0,
00:24:41.790 --> 00:24:43.720
it's increased our
situational awareness,
00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:46.080
our modeling and predictive tools.
00:24:46.080 --> 00:24:48.640
It introduced AI and the ability
00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:51.460
to more precisely
predict fire weather risks
00:24:51.460 --> 00:24:54.380
and also brought forward
an explosion in data
00:24:54.380 --> 00:24:58.170
as we moved from 10-minute
reads to 30-second reads,
00:24:58.170 --> 00:25:00.300
and it's important to
note what that does.
00:25:00.300 --> 00:25:03.660
All that data informs everything we do,
00:25:03.660 --> 00:25:05.107
from forecasting to how we alert
00:25:05.107 --> 00:25:08.020
our customers and
communities to providing focus
00:25:08.020 --> 00:25:11.800
on exactly where PSPS
scope, duration and impact
00:25:11.800 --> 00:25:14.130
can be positively impacted
00:25:14.130 --> 00:25:16.410
via our grid hardening
projects, it matters.
00:25:16.410 --> 00:25:19.240
John will walk you
through your first look
00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:21.650
at the tool last year,
how it's evolved this year
00:25:21.650 --> 00:25:24.930
to actually drill in and
provide greater attention
00:25:24.930 --> 00:25:28.550
to projects and details
that can reduce PSPS.
00:25:28.550 --> 00:25:32.020
And really that takes us to
today and it should be expected,
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it really is about data,
it's more real-time data.
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It's about knowing
actual real-time conditions
00:25:38.360 --> 00:25:39.690
of fuel on the ground.
00:25:39.690 --> 00:25:41.130
It's about better modeling
00:25:41.130 --> 00:25:43.410
and it's using that data
and modeling to impact
00:25:43.410 --> 00:25:46.170
where and how we think
about grid hardening.
00:25:46.170 --> 00:25:49.690
Precisely knowing where
undergrounding and covered conductor
00:25:49.690 --> 00:25:50.890
will have the greatest reduction
00:25:50.890 --> 00:25:53.287
in PSPS scope, duration and impact,
00:25:53.287 --> 00:25:55.850
and John will walk through some of that.
00:25:55.850 --> 00:25:59.530
I will also point out that we'll have,
00:25:59.530 --> 00:26:01.930
John will present some high level focus
00:26:01.930 --> 00:26:05.280
on specific elements of
our wildfire mitigation plan
00:26:05.280 --> 00:26:07.140
that specifically shows
where we're reducing
00:26:07.140 --> 00:26:10.880
scope, duration and
impact of PSPS in 2021.
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:12.550
And before handing it off to John,
00:26:12.550 --> 00:26:15.710
I thought I would pose
there and take any questions.
00:26:15.710 --> 00:26:18.790
Otherwise I'd ask
John to walk us through
00:26:18.790 --> 00:26:20.880
some of the specific acts we're taking
00:26:22.140 --> 00:26:23.340
with the grid this year.
00:26:27.620 --> 00:26:29.010
Okay great, I don't see any hands up.
00:26:29.010 --> 00:26:29.930
John, if you wouldn't mind,
00:26:29.930 --> 00:26:31.633
take us through the next slide.
00:26:32.730 --> 00:26:34.100
All right, thank you Kevin,
00:26:34.100 --> 00:26:35.107
if we could advance to the next slide
00:26:35.107 --> 00:26:37.274
and I just want to do
a quick sound check
00:26:37.274 --> 00:26:38.983
to make sure that people can hear me.
00:26:40.410 --> 00:26:42.040
We can hear you fine.
00:26:42.040 --> 00:26:44.486
All right. Thank you much.
00:26:44.486 --> 00:26:47.560
And great segue Kevin and you're right,
00:26:47.560 --> 00:26:49.420
there are situational awareness
00:26:49.420 --> 00:26:52.010
that we've developed over
the course of the past decade
00:26:52.010 --> 00:26:55.000
is really foundational
for everything that we do.
00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:58.270
I'm going to start off by
walking us through a risk model
00:26:58.270 --> 00:27:00.880
that informs not only
our mitigation activities,
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.530
but also our PSPS decision-making
00:27:03.530 --> 00:27:06.493
heading into this fire season.
00:27:09.220 --> 00:27:11.450
Starting with the left,
these are the different inputs
00:27:11.450 --> 00:27:13.240
of how we look at wildfire risk
00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:17.270
and there are obviously
the combination of likelihood
00:27:17.270 --> 00:27:21.390
and consequence that develop
an overall wildfire risk score.
00:27:21.390 --> 00:27:24.370
The model takes information
from our weather network,
00:27:24.370 --> 00:27:27.210
our electric system,
our vegetation database,
00:27:27.210 --> 00:27:28.520
and our fire models.
00:27:28.520 --> 00:27:30.770
This allows us to calculate
the wildfire risk score
00:27:30.770 --> 00:27:33.960
based on the likelihood and
consequence of certain events
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:35.970
taking, for example,
our fuels and terrain
00:27:35.970 --> 00:27:39.200
in our fire model,
predictive fire model,
00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:41.600
will affect the consequence.
00:27:41.600 --> 00:27:43.800
The wind speeds that we anticipate
00:27:43.800 --> 00:27:46.700
will affect both the
likelihood and consequence
00:27:46.700 --> 00:27:48.003
of a negative event.
00:27:48.940 --> 00:27:51.410
The system miles on
a particular segment,
00:27:51.410 --> 00:27:53.230
obviously if there's
more miles of circuit,
00:27:53.230 --> 00:27:55.640
there's a higher likelihood of an event.
00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:57.440
But these things are the inputs
00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:00.090
that go into the wildfire risk score
00:28:00.090 --> 00:28:02.149
and one thing that we've incorporated
00:28:02.149 --> 00:28:05.280
in improving this risk modeling tool
00:28:05.280 --> 00:28:06.460
over the course of the past year
00:28:06.460 --> 00:28:09.003
is including the risk of PSPS.
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:12.500
As it's been mentioned
in the meeting thus far,
00:28:12.500 --> 00:28:14.220
it is a measure of last resort,
00:28:14.220 --> 00:28:15.890
and although it does help
00:28:15.890 --> 00:28:18.005
with the mitigation of wildfire risk,
00:28:18.005 --> 00:28:20.760
it is not void of risk itself
00:28:20.760 --> 00:28:23.540
so we want to capture that as well.
00:28:23.540 --> 00:28:26.523
So we have the different
inputs on the right side here.
00:28:28.180 --> 00:28:31.930
Wind speeds will affect the
likelihood of a PSPS event.
00:28:31.930 --> 00:28:33.910
The projected duration will affect
00:28:33.910 --> 00:28:37.210
the likelihood and the consequence.
00:28:37.210 --> 00:28:40.190
The type of customers that
we have on a particular segment
00:28:40.190 --> 00:28:43.310
will also affect the
likelihood and consequence,
00:28:43.310 --> 00:28:45.580
but these scores are combined
00:28:45.580 --> 00:28:47.967
and then this is what has
really started our transition
00:28:47.967 --> 00:28:50.160
of our wildfire mitigation efforts
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:52.590
from what we were
doing to what we've seen
00:28:52.590 --> 00:28:56.990
in our 2021 WMP update and
what you'll see going forward.
00:28:56.990 --> 00:28:59.730
And so you can see the
different combinations
00:28:59.730 --> 00:29:02.680
we have in our three-year
WMP plan right now,
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:05.260
in terms of the miles of hardening.
00:29:05.260 --> 00:29:06.768
You can see a large transition
00:29:06.768 --> 00:29:08.890
to covered conductor and underground.
00:29:08.890 --> 00:29:13.850
So in some of our less
weather severe areas,
00:29:13.850 --> 00:29:15.250
you're going to see
more covered conductor
00:29:15.250 --> 00:29:18.890
because that will mitigate
the risk and the PSPS risk
00:29:18.890 --> 00:29:21.160
as you get into some of the worst parts
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.300
of tier three and where we have
00:29:23.300 --> 00:29:24.900
some of the worst wildfire risk,
00:29:24.900 --> 00:29:28.370
undergrounding is going
to be the best solution.
00:29:28.370 --> 00:29:31.770
So this is the risk model
that is used to inform
00:29:31.770 --> 00:29:33.010
our mitigation strategies,
00:29:33.010 --> 00:29:35.410
which I'm going to be
going over here in a second,
00:29:35.410 --> 00:29:37.960
but wanted to start with this
discussion because it's also
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:40.993
going to lead into our
PSPS decision framework.
00:29:41.890 --> 00:29:43.033
Next slide please.
00:29:45.810 --> 00:29:48.710
We have nearly 60
wildfire mitigation activities
00:29:48.710 --> 00:29:49.940
in our welfare mitigation plan,
00:29:49.940 --> 00:29:51.657
so obviously I'm not
going to go over all of those,
00:29:51.657 --> 00:29:55.120
but I'm going to cover
some of the main ones here
00:29:55.120 --> 00:29:56.530
that help from an overall
00:29:56.530 --> 00:29:58.300
public safety power shutoff perspective,
00:29:58.300 --> 00:30:02.560
and a wildfire risk
reduction perspective.
00:30:02.560 --> 00:30:03.770
We have grid hardening.
00:30:03.770 --> 00:30:06.960
So this is a combination
of traditional hardening,
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:09.810
covered conductor and undergrounding.
00:30:09.810 --> 00:30:11.830
In our higher fire threat district
00:30:11.830 --> 00:30:13.250
at San Diego Gas and Electric,
00:30:13.250 --> 00:30:16.573
we have 3,500 miles of
overhead infrastructure.
00:30:17.630 --> 00:30:21.790
We started hardening our
distribution system in 2014,
00:30:21.790 --> 00:30:25.210
so since that time we've
hardened 755 miles
00:30:25.210 --> 00:30:29.300
of our distribution
system, or nearly 22%.
00:30:29.300 --> 00:30:31.470
We have another 155 miles
00:30:31.470 --> 00:30:32.890
that we're targeted to do this year,
00:30:32.890 --> 00:30:35.700
we're just about halfway done
00:30:35.700 --> 00:30:37.949
with that work for this year
00:30:37.949 --> 00:30:40.520
and that's the combination
of covered underground
00:30:40.520 --> 00:30:44.460
and traditional hardening that
we saw on the previous slide.
00:30:44.460 --> 00:30:48.330
We have a host of other
equipment replacement programs
00:30:48.330 --> 00:30:50.930
where we're replacing
higher risk equipment
00:30:50.930 --> 00:30:52.690
in the high fire threat district,
00:30:52.690 --> 00:30:55.590
expulsion fuses being one example,
00:30:55.590 --> 00:30:58.640
capacitor banks, lightning arresters,
00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:01.050
and so this example
that's shown on the slide
00:31:01.050 --> 00:31:03.280
is our expulsion fuse replacements.
00:31:03.280 --> 00:31:07.200
This is replacing a
device that, by design,
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:09.520
has an arc when it operates.
00:31:09.520 --> 00:31:13.930
Replacing these with a Cal
FIRE fuse reduces that arc,
00:31:13.930 --> 00:31:18.930
obviously reducing the
possibility of an ignition.
00:31:19.050 --> 00:31:21.790
So we have a little
over 11,000 installations
00:31:21.790 --> 00:31:22.870
in our high fire threat district,
00:31:22.870 --> 00:31:24.810
we've already replaced over 7,800,
00:31:24.810 --> 00:31:28.050
we will be close to being complete
00:31:28.050 --> 00:31:29.780
by the end of this
year, if not complete.
00:31:29.780 --> 00:31:32.483
Right now, we're 70.5%
complete with those.
00:31:33.490 --> 00:31:35.140
The sectionalizing devices,
00:31:35.140 --> 00:31:37.490
working our way down the slide here,
00:31:37.490 --> 00:31:39.910
you can see 10 of
those installed this year.
00:31:39.910 --> 00:31:42.800
That might not seem
like a significant number,
00:31:42.800 --> 00:31:45.160
but this is just part of our
continuous learning process.
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:47.507
Every year we go into our fire season,
00:31:47.507 --> 00:31:50.080
and we find out things and learn things
00:31:50.080 --> 00:31:51.540
from the events that we went into
00:31:51.540 --> 00:31:53.620
and identify areas
where it would be nice
00:31:53.620 --> 00:31:55.600
to have additional weather stations
00:31:55.600 --> 00:31:58.180
or sectionalizing devices
to be even more specific
00:31:58.180 --> 00:32:01.840
and make the best
decisions for our customers,
00:32:01.840 --> 00:32:03.450
in those particular cases.
00:32:03.450 --> 00:32:05.530
But you can see since 2014,
00:32:05.530 --> 00:32:08.817
we've installed 870
sectionalizing devices in our system
00:32:08.817 --> 00:32:10.730
and this is what allows us,
00:32:10.730 --> 00:32:12.330
in conjunction with the weather network,
00:32:12.330 --> 00:32:16.320
to be so precise and
only shut off the customers
00:32:16.320 --> 00:32:19.343
that are seeing the risk
at that particular time.
00:32:21.280 --> 00:32:23.930
Moving down, for our enhanced
vegetation management,
00:32:23.930 --> 00:32:28.930
we have 465,000 trees
that we inspect, monitor,
00:32:29.270 --> 00:32:33.760
trim, remove, but our enhanced
vegetation management program
00:32:33.760 --> 00:32:36.890
is looking at five more
problematic species,
00:32:36.890 --> 00:32:40.280
eucalyptus, palm,
pine, oak, and sycamore,
00:32:40.280 --> 00:32:42.180
are ones that traditionally
00:32:42.180 --> 00:32:45.250
have affected the electric system more.
00:32:45.250 --> 00:32:48.430
We have 81,000 of those
in our service territory.
00:32:48.430 --> 00:32:51.740
We started our enhanced program in 2019.
00:32:51.740 --> 00:32:55.412
We've already trimmed or
removed to a greater clearance
00:32:55.412 --> 00:33:00.412
28,781 trees, we're targeting
another 17,000 this year,
00:33:01.300 --> 00:33:05.500
and I should have started that
we have 12 foot of clearance
00:33:05.500 --> 00:33:07.610
in all of our locations in the HFTD.
00:33:07.610 --> 00:33:10.300
So the enhanced vegetation
management program
00:33:10.300 --> 00:33:14.430
is really for those targeted
species going up to 25 feet,
00:33:14.430 --> 00:33:17.193
depending on the
situation and circumstances.
00:33:18.170 --> 00:33:20.017
Moving over to situational awareness,
00:33:20.017 --> 00:33:21.570
Kevin covered this pretty well,
00:33:21.570 --> 00:33:23.410
with how important this
is and as I mentioned,
00:33:23.410 --> 00:33:26.030
it's really foundational
for everything that we do,
00:33:26.030 --> 00:33:29.750
but over a hundred cameras
and 220 weather stations,
00:33:29.750 --> 00:33:30.890
most of these weather stations
00:33:30.890 --> 00:33:33.540
we have a decades worth of weather data,
00:33:33.540 --> 00:33:35.650
we've implemented machine learning
00:33:35.650 --> 00:33:40.650
and artificially intelligence
fueled weather forecasts.
00:33:41.080 --> 00:33:43.600
Our weather network
is extremely accurate.
00:33:43.600 --> 00:33:46.140
It's really helpful to
help us make decisions
00:33:46.140 --> 00:33:48.390
in the PSPS decision-making process,
00:33:48.390 --> 00:33:50.973
which I'll cover in another slide here.
00:33:52.580 --> 00:33:54.520
And then our generator programs,
00:33:54.520 --> 00:33:56.160
there's three different types.
00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:59.570
We have the medical baseline
generator grant program.
00:33:59.570 --> 00:34:03.220
So this is where we provide
our medical baseline customers
00:34:03.220 --> 00:34:04.520
in the high fire threat district
00:34:04.520 --> 00:34:06.970
with a portable battery storage unit
00:34:06.970 --> 00:34:09.910
that has a portable-type
panel that goes along with it
00:34:09.910 --> 00:34:11.760
so they can charge it during the day.
00:34:12.610 --> 00:34:15.920
We rolled out over
1200 of those last year,
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:18.830
we're doing over another 2000 this year.
00:34:18.830 --> 00:34:20.040
We got all of our units rolled out
00:34:20.040 --> 00:34:21.410
by September 1st last year,
00:34:21.410 --> 00:34:22.760
planning to do the same this year.
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:24.890
We do this all over the course of summer
00:34:24.890 --> 00:34:28.020
so we're hot and heavy
on this program right now.
00:34:28.020 --> 00:34:33.020
A second program is our
resiliency assistance program,
00:34:34.100 --> 00:34:37.547
and what this is, is for
all customers in HFTD
00:34:38.401 --> 00:34:39.780
they go out and buy a generator,
00:34:39.780 --> 00:34:42.560
it's a rebate program that funds 50%
00:34:42.560 --> 00:34:45.740
of the generator purchase
for qualifying purchases.
00:34:45.740 --> 00:34:48.520
For some of our low-income customers
00:34:48.520 --> 00:34:51.983
that are part of the CARE
program, it's a 75% rebate.
00:34:53.310 --> 00:34:56.680
And then we have a fixed
power backup program
00:34:56.680 --> 00:35:01.560
and these are for customers
that the risk spend efficiency
00:35:01.560 --> 00:35:04.330
or the risk score doesn't
really work out for them
00:35:04.330 --> 00:35:06.520
because there's like one customer
00:35:06.520 --> 00:35:08.170
on the end of a very long line,
00:35:08.170 --> 00:35:10.580
or a small handful of customers,
00:35:10.580 --> 00:35:14.900
it doesn't make sense to hardened miles
00:35:14.900 --> 00:35:16.630
of infrastructure for those customers
00:35:16.630 --> 00:35:19.210
so we're providing a
permanent fixed power solution
00:35:19.210 --> 00:35:21.590
to mitigate their PSPS impacts,
00:35:21.590 --> 00:35:23.050
so we'll still be shutting
off the main power,
00:35:23.050 --> 00:35:24.130
but their homes will be fueled
00:35:24.130 --> 00:35:27.320
by these fixed generator solutions.
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:29.140
And those are our
three generator programs
00:35:29.140 --> 00:35:34.140
that make up the target,
that's 3663 for 2021
00:35:34.460 --> 00:35:36.617
and I'll be going over
those in a little bit more detail
00:35:36.617 --> 00:35:41.360
on the next slide and then
we do all kinds of inspections
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:43.230
throughout the course of the year.
00:35:43.230 --> 00:35:44.450
Just want to highlight that one of
00:35:44.450 --> 00:35:48.060
the additional inspections
that we have been doing
00:35:48.060 --> 00:35:49.550
over the course of the
past couple of years
00:35:49.550 --> 00:35:52.250
is our drone inspection program.
00:35:52.250 --> 00:35:54.330
We got completely through tier three
00:35:54.330 --> 00:35:57.030
over the course of 2019 and '20.
00:35:57.030 --> 00:36:00.120
We're going to have
a half of tier two done
00:36:00.120 --> 00:36:02.790
on our distribution system
and we're also doing
00:36:02.790 --> 00:36:04.730
our transmissioning
system over the course
00:36:04.730 --> 00:36:05.670
of the next two years.
00:36:05.670 --> 00:36:08.093
So, just wanted to mention
those two programs.
00:36:09.043 --> 00:36:10.983
If we can move on to
the next slide, please?
00:36:16.850 --> 00:36:19.560
So what does this mean
in terms of reductions
00:36:19.560 --> 00:36:22.620
to our PSPS impacts?
00:36:22.620 --> 00:36:24.930
I mentioned the 10
sectionalizing devices
00:36:24.930 --> 00:36:28.110
that we identified, there's
actually 5,000 customers
00:36:28.110 --> 00:36:30.690
associated with these
10 sectionalizing devices,
00:36:30.690 --> 00:36:33.160
so there would have been larger areas
00:36:33.160 --> 00:36:34.090
that would have been de-energized
00:36:34.090 --> 00:36:36.450
but we've identified
some separate locations
00:36:36.450 --> 00:36:38.220
that may experience
different weather patterns
00:36:38.220 --> 00:36:40.770
compared to the original segment,
00:36:40.770 --> 00:36:43.360
before the sectionalizing
device was installed,
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:46.100
so a possible reduction
of 5,000 customers
00:36:46.100 --> 00:36:48.820
associated with those
10 sectionalizing devices.
00:36:48.820 --> 00:36:50.970
I talked about the fixed
backup power solution,
00:36:50.970 --> 00:36:55.063
that's going in at 413
locations, so 413 customers.
00:36:56.110 --> 00:36:59.260
The resiliency grant program,
00:36:59.260 --> 00:37:02.770
this is the medical baseline
generator grant program,
00:37:02.770 --> 00:37:06.880
2000 customers getting
those by September 1st
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:08.307
and then the resiliency
assistance program,
00:37:08.307 --> 00:37:10.850
that's the rebate
program that I described,
00:37:10.850 --> 00:37:13.470
targeting 1,250 customers,
00:37:13.470 --> 00:37:16.100
it's really up to how many
people cash in the rebates,
00:37:16.100 --> 00:37:19.420
but that's what we're
targeting to try and achieve
00:37:19.420 --> 00:37:22.713
before this fire season starts.
00:37:23.870 --> 00:37:26.743
We have five microgrids we're deploying,
00:37:27.900 --> 00:37:30.080
and that's a total of 1700 customers.
00:37:30.080 --> 00:37:32.100
I always like to
reiterate with this though,
00:37:32.100 --> 00:37:37.100
it's not just the customers
that are having power restored
00:37:37.740 --> 00:37:38.573
to their facilities,
00:37:38.573 --> 00:37:40.760
it's the type of
customers that they are.
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:43.600
These microgrids are
typically in the town centers
00:37:43.600 --> 00:37:45.040
of some of these rural communities,
00:37:45.040 --> 00:37:49.310
so by undergrounding a
minimal amount of infrastructure
00:37:49.310 --> 00:37:51.830
and keeping that
infrastructure energized
00:37:51.830 --> 00:37:53.960
with the support of a microgrid
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:57.910
for keeping grocery
stores, gas stations, schools,
00:37:57.910 --> 00:38:01.700
urgent care centers, those
sorts of things remain energized,
00:38:01.700 --> 00:38:04.820
so even if you're in an
outlying area in your power,
00:38:04.820 --> 00:38:06.720
your house is not going to be able
00:38:06.720 --> 00:38:09.300
to be kept on because of risk,
00:38:09.300 --> 00:38:13.953
you have critical goods and
services in a nearby location.
00:38:14.790 --> 00:38:17.200
And then I mentioned our
transition to undergrounding
00:38:17.200 --> 00:38:20.600
over the course of the past two years,
00:38:20.600 --> 00:38:24.120
this has led to a reduction
in 1,127 customers
00:38:24.120 --> 00:38:25.880
and we're going to see a
lot more of that going forward,
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:27.160
obviously with how much undergrounding
00:38:27.160 --> 00:38:29.403
you're going to be seeing
in the coming years,
00:38:29.403 --> 00:38:34.210
about 1,127 that will see
a PSPS impact reduction
00:38:34.210 --> 00:38:35.400
heading into this fire season.
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.230
So, a little over 11,000 customers.
00:38:39.230 --> 00:38:42.670
To give that some perspective,
Caroline Thomas Jacobs
00:38:42.670 --> 00:38:45.110
mentioned our PSPS
events from last year,
00:38:45.110 --> 00:38:49.070
we did have 11 red flag warning events
00:38:49.070 --> 00:38:51.370
that affected our
service territory last year.
00:38:52.500 --> 00:38:57.270
We ended up de-energizing
for public safety power shut off
00:38:57.270 --> 00:38:58.630
in five of those 11 events,
00:38:58.630 --> 00:39:01.810
so six did not see any
public safety power shut off.
00:39:01.810 --> 00:39:03.310
Two of the events were down
00:39:03.310 --> 00:39:05.793
in the a couple of
hundred customer range.
00:39:06.640 --> 00:39:07.660
And then we had two events
00:39:07.660 --> 00:39:09.780
that were around 10,000 customers,
00:39:09.780 --> 00:39:12.020
just to give some perspective
to this number here.
00:39:12.020 --> 00:39:14.020
And then we have the
one really large event,
00:39:14.020 --> 00:39:18.610
at the beginning of December,
that was 74,000 customers.
00:39:18.610 --> 00:39:21.710
So I wanted to provide
some context for what we see
00:39:21.710 --> 00:39:24.477
in terms of PSPS
mitigation reduction here
00:39:24.477 --> 00:39:28.203
and how that translates
to what transpired last year.
00:39:29.380 --> 00:39:30.330
Next slide, please.
00:39:31.250 --> 00:39:33.325
Mr. Jenkins?
Yes.
00:39:33.325 --> 00:39:36.080
I'm sorry, could
you maybe go back?
00:39:36.080 --> 00:39:41.080
Do you have a similar
reduction in PSPS events
00:39:42.970 --> 00:39:47.224
or were people impacted,
maybe you can go back a slide,
00:39:47.224 --> 00:39:51.430
and you have in your previous set
00:39:51.430 --> 00:39:54.900
of grid hardening investments,
00:39:54.900 --> 00:39:58.870
you described both bare
wire and covered conductor.
00:39:58.870 --> 00:40:02.690
Do you have the equivalencies
here on how many,
00:40:02.690 --> 00:40:07.620
the reduction of estimated
PSPS events and customers,
00:40:07.620 --> 00:40:10.230
and also, just as a sub question,
00:40:10.230 --> 00:40:13.853
what exactly is the
mitigation tied to bare wire?
00:40:16.950 --> 00:40:20.810
So, the mitigation
tied to bare wire
00:40:20.810 --> 00:40:24.240
would be, if we had an
entire segment hardened,
00:40:24.240 --> 00:40:25.900
we would increase the threshold,
00:40:25.900 --> 00:40:28.740
therefore decreasing the
likelihood of a PSPS events.
00:40:28.740 --> 00:40:31.940
So there there's a PSPS reduction there.
00:40:31.940 --> 00:40:34.170
But as I mentioned in
our risk modeling slide,
00:40:34.170 --> 00:40:39.000
we're seeing the transition to
covered and undergrounding
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:41.890
to help mitigate this growing risk
00:40:41.890 --> 00:40:45.820
and further reduce the impacts
of PSPS to our customers,
00:40:45.820 --> 00:40:47.923
as well as the overall wildfire risk.
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:51.040
I'm sorry to
not understand that,
00:40:51.040 --> 00:40:53.290
but maybe it shows my ignorance here,
00:40:53.290 --> 00:40:58.290
but what do you mean by
hardening the bare wire?
00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:02.750
'Cause it's a distinction
from a covered conductor.
00:41:02.750 --> 00:41:05.930
So what exactly is the mitigation then?
00:41:05.930 --> 00:41:08.560
Sure, when we go in and we say
00:41:08.560 --> 00:41:10.283
we hardened our system,
00:41:11.450 --> 00:41:14.770
we started off with just
hardening our system
00:41:14.770 --> 00:41:16.120
with bare conductors,
00:41:16.120 --> 00:41:18.010
which is the way
that all of the utilities
00:41:18.010 --> 00:41:20.240
have been building
their distribution systems,
00:41:20.240 --> 00:41:22.180
but when I say we've hardened it,
00:41:22.180 --> 00:41:25.130
we go in and we make
sure that all the facilities
00:41:25.130 --> 00:41:27.110
are designed to local known conditions.
00:41:27.110 --> 00:41:30.020
So for us, that's a
minimum of 85 miles an hour
00:41:30.020 --> 00:41:31.650
in our high fire threat district, up to,
00:41:31.650 --> 00:41:34.963
we have facilities that are
designed to 112 miles per hour.
00:41:36.160 --> 00:41:38.580
And so that's part of it.
00:41:38.580 --> 00:41:41.793
Also, we go in and increase the spacing,
00:41:43.430 --> 00:41:46.550
that provides less
opportunity for debris
00:41:46.550 --> 00:41:49.530
or things to come in contact
between the conductors
00:41:49.530 --> 00:41:50.933
if they're farther apart.
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.420
And we also, as part
of our hardening efforts,
00:41:54.420 --> 00:41:57.110
go in and as we rebuild the system,
00:41:57.110 --> 00:42:00.338
install protective
sectionalizing devices
00:42:00.338 --> 00:42:02.940
that identify faults quicker
00:42:02.940 --> 00:42:05.580
and also limit the fault
current that happens
00:42:05.580 --> 00:42:08.180
in the event that
something comes in contact
00:42:08.180 --> 00:42:12.100
with the lines, a bird comes
in contact with our lines
00:42:12.100 --> 00:42:14.433
or any sort of event happens,
00:42:15.486 --> 00:42:19.540
thus limiting the
possibility of an ignition.
00:42:19.540 --> 00:42:24.540
And then also we are
enabling the technology
00:42:25.140 --> 00:42:27.330
for deployment of our
falling conductor protection
00:42:27.330 --> 00:42:30.130
and this will help with
bare or covered conductor
00:42:30.130 --> 00:42:31.730
because if the conductor,
00:42:31.730 --> 00:42:33.430
somebody comes in contact with the line,
00:42:33.430 --> 00:42:35.790
if it's covered, if it
comes down to the ground
00:42:35.790 --> 00:42:38.410
it has the possibility
to start an ignition,
00:42:38.410 --> 00:42:41.670
except if it's de-energized
before it hits the ground.
00:42:41.670 --> 00:42:43.850
So we are deploying the technology
00:42:43.850 --> 00:42:46.800
as we've been hardening
the system that enables that.
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:47.633
One thing that we need
00:42:47.633 --> 00:42:49.150
for the falling conductor
protection though,
00:42:49.150 --> 00:42:51.590
is also the deployment of
our private LTE network,
00:42:51.590 --> 00:42:54.590
it's highly dependent upon
high-speed communication
00:42:54.590 --> 00:42:55.790
for that to happen.
00:42:55.790 --> 00:42:58.290
I hope that answered
the question a little better.
00:42:59.150 --> 00:43:02.470
Yes, so does all
of the bare wire hardening
00:43:02.470 --> 00:43:07.180
have this falling conductor ability
00:43:07.180 --> 00:43:09.333
to shut off before it hits the ground?
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:13.230
It does, we have
to protect the devices
00:43:13.230 --> 00:43:17.210
installed out there that
we've been deploying
00:43:17.210 --> 00:43:20.190
for a number of years as we've
been hardening the system,
00:43:20.190 --> 00:43:23.630
so the devices and the
technology is out there,
00:43:23.630 --> 00:43:26.860
but we need the backup communication
00:43:26.860 --> 00:43:28.950
that goes along with it 'cause it needs
00:43:28.950 --> 00:43:31.680
to make this decision in a
matter of tenths of seconds
00:43:31.680 --> 00:43:34.310
and so it's really relying upon
high-speed communication.
00:43:34.310 --> 00:43:36.090
And in our back country,
00:43:36.090 --> 00:43:38.760
we just don't have the
communication available
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:39.800
in most of these locations,
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:42.970
which is why we're deploying
our own private LTE network
00:43:42.970 --> 00:43:44.800
as part of our wildfire mitigation plan,
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:46.800
and we have been for the past two years.
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:49.233
Okay.
00:43:50.350 --> 00:43:52.280
Mr. Jenkins, while we're-
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:53.707
I'm sorry, Commissioner
Shiroma go ahead.
00:43:53.707 --> 00:43:56.657
Yes go ahead, okay Cliff
you first, then I'll follow you.
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:00.020
I was just gonna, if
you go back up one slide,
00:44:00.020 --> 00:44:02.740
you have the number of
generators that you provided,
00:44:02.740 --> 00:44:03.773
including to care customers.
00:44:03.773 --> 00:44:08.740
and you also have the
number of fixed backup power,
00:44:08.740 --> 00:44:13.610
do you have a number of
battery systems that you provided?
00:44:13.610 --> 00:44:16.550
I didn't see it in your slide
00:44:16.550 --> 00:44:18.563
that you sent to us in advance.
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:22.480
Oh yeah, for ease of
getting a lot of information
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:26.090
on this slide, the generator
includes all three types.
00:44:26.090 --> 00:44:30.930
So for this year, there's
roughly 400 fixed backup power,
00:44:30.930 --> 00:44:35.920
1200 generator rebates, and 2000,
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:37.783
again, I'm using rough numbers here,
00:44:38.710 --> 00:44:42.240
medical baseline battery storage units.
00:44:42.240 --> 00:44:44.610
And does that allow you to,
00:44:44.610 --> 00:44:46.740
have you reached with that number
00:44:46.740 --> 00:44:51.740
all medical baseline customers
in high fire threat areas,
00:44:52.910 --> 00:44:55.820
I don't know if you define
that as tier two, tier three,
00:44:55.820 --> 00:44:58.950
but does that meet
your goal for the universe
00:44:58.950 --> 00:45:03.950
of impacted customers who need
these backup power solutions?
00:45:05.040 --> 00:45:07.667
Yeah, you can see that
the 2806 number to the right,
00:45:07.667 --> 00:45:10.980
that's the numbers that have
been deployed in past years,
00:45:10.980 --> 00:45:15.980
that number plus the 3663,
every medical baseline customer
00:45:17.490 --> 00:45:19.610
that has experienced a PSPS outage
00:45:19.610 --> 00:45:21.729
has been given the
opportunity, at least,
00:45:21.729 --> 00:45:25.440
to receive the battery storage unit.
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:27.370
And we ended up having a
pretty high acceptance rate,
00:45:27.370 --> 00:45:29.940
we're up in the mid
80s, we have about 85%
00:45:29.940 --> 00:45:32.453
of those customers
take us up on our offer.
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.323
Thank you.
Yep, you bet.
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:40.970
Quick question, hopefully a
quick question, Mr. Jenkins,
00:45:40.970 --> 00:45:43.223
this has to do with your WiNGS model,
00:45:44.130 --> 00:45:49.130
by the way, I'm reading
about (indistinct) my interest,
00:45:49.630 --> 00:45:51.660
but your WiNGS model,
here's my question,
00:45:51.660 --> 00:45:54.280
it's almost like
(indistinct) one-on-one.
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:59.280
can you tell me how your WiNGS model
00:46:01.530 --> 00:46:06.140
should be viewed juxtapose
with the react modeling
00:46:06.140 --> 00:46:07.963
and the silver modeling?
00:46:09.090 --> 00:46:10.283
What is the context?
00:46:13.270 --> 00:46:15.683
I'm not sure I
understand the question.
00:46:18.661 --> 00:46:22.240
Do, for example,
the silver model,
00:46:22.240 --> 00:46:27.200
I think I read somewhere
that you all are relying on that,
00:46:27.200 --> 00:46:30.820
does that feed into your WiNGS model
00:46:30.820 --> 00:46:35.820
in terms of identifying the
specific areas of highest risk
00:46:36.209 --> 00:46:38.950
and what you need for,
00:46:38.950 --> 00:46:41.039
whether it's covered
conductor, undergrounding,
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:43.060
(audio glitch)
00:46:43.060 --> 00:46:45.973
or is no relationship at all?
00:46:47.260 --> 00:46:50.880
No no, you'll see
on the bottom left input
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.640
on the wildfire risk score side,
00:46:53.640 --> 00:46:57.280
that is really our fire
propagation modeling.
00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:00.540
So that definitely
impacts the consequence
00:47:00.540 --> 00:47:03.860
and so as we go through and
analyze segment by segment,
00:47:03.860 --> 00:47:05.960
we use that information
to feed into this
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:10.270
that will provide the
consequence portion
00:47:10.270 --> 00:47:12.453
of the wildfire risk score.
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:15.580
So it definitely is complimentary.
00:47:16.495 --> 00:47:19.063
Okay, okay.
Complimentary, all right.
00:47:19.063 --> 00:47:20.113
All right, thank you.
00:47:22.100 --> 00:47:23.710
President Batjer,
since we're stopped here,
00:47:23.710 --> 00:47:25.960
can I ask you a quick
question on this topic?
00:47:28.460 --> 00:47:31.030
Yes of course, please.
Thank you.
00:47:31.030 --> 00:47:32.320
Talking about the wind modeling
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:35.730
and even the covered
circuits, if I'm not mistaken,
00:47:35.730 --> 00:47:38.560
last year during the presentation,
00:47:38.560 --> 00:47:41.010
you guys made comments along the lines
00:47:41.010 --> 00:47:42.780
of that you were under development
00:47:42.780 --> 00:47:46.260
and looking at how wind
thresholds would change
00:47:46.260 --> 00:47:49.470
in your PSPS modeling
with the new mitigations
00:47:49.470 --> 00:47:52.013
that are underway, such
as covered conductor,
00:47:53.175 --> 00:47:55.550
installments on
partially covered circuits.
00:47:55.550 --> 00:47:59.410
So just curious if you've
changed any of those
00:47:59.410 --> 00:48:02.970
actual models or wind
thresholds because of the work
00:48:02.970 --> 00:48:04.970
that you've now been able to accomplish?
00:48:06.006 --> 00:48:07.500
Actually, I'm
going to be getting to
00:48:07.500 --> 00:48:10.467
our PSPS decision framework
and in a couple of slides
00:48:10.467 --> 00:48:12.900
and it might be a good opportunity
00:48:12.900 --> 00:48:15.050
to discuss that then,
if you wouldn't mind.
00:48:15.940 --> 00:48:17.350
Yeah. Sounds good, thanks.
00:48:17.350 --> 00:48:18.570
Okay.
00:48:18.570 --> 00:48:20.700
President Batjer, is it
okay if I ask a quick question
00:48:20.700 --> 00:48:23.743
on the slide six on the grid hardening?
00:48:24.940 --> 00:48:27.260
Please go ahead,
Commissioner Houck.
00:48:27.260 --> 00:48:28.600
Thank you.
00:48:28.600 --> 00:48:33.130
On the top line on the
high fire district hardening,
00:48:33.130 --> 00:48:38.130
the 755 miles, how much of
the 755 is covered conductor
00:48:38.690 --> 00:48:40.555
and how much is undergrounding
00:48:40.555 --> 00:48:44.380
and of the 3,500, how
much are you anticipating
00:48:44.380 --> 00:48:47.573
will be covered conductor
and how much undergrounding?
00:48:50.250 --> 00:48:53.880
So right now, obviously
we started in 2014
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:57.360
with just traditional hardening
and up until just last year
00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.950
started to shift towards
covered conductor
00:48:59.950 --> 00:49:04.210
and undergrounding, so
we did 25 miles last year.
00:49:04.210 --> 00:49:06.160
We only did a couple of
miles of undergrounding
00:49:06.160 --> 00:49:09.770
the year before, and we're
doing another 25 miles this year,
00:49:09.770 --> 00:49:11.810
which we're halfway complete with.
00:49:11.810 --> 00:49:16.256
So right now we're around
40 miles of undergrounding
00:49:16.256 --> 00:49:19.650
and this is our, we
did a couple of miles
00:49:19.650 --> 00:49:23.920
of covered conductor
as part of a pilot last year,
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:25.610
and we're doing 20 miles this year,
00:49:25.610 --> 00:49:28.693
which we're just about
halfway complete with.
00:49:30.380 --> 00:49:33.573
And then if you go back
to one slide before this,
00:49:35.270 --> 00:49:37.263
you can see right now the,
00:49:38.466 --> 00:49:39.990
and I should have said the acronym,
00:49:39.990 --> 00:49:41.970
it's wildfire next-generation systems,
00:49:41.970 --> 00:49:43.600
so that's what WiNGS stands for,
00:49:43.600 --> 00:49:46.710
but our WiNGS model
has us undergrounding
00:49:46.710 --> 00:49:48.733
an additional 880 miles.
00:49:49.870 --> 00:49:52.610
That's past our current three-year plan,
00:49:52.610 --> 00:49:55.793
and then an 833 miles
of covered conductor.
00:49:59.010 --> 00:49:59.843
Thank you.
00:50:01.187 --> 00:50:04.110
And if we're stopped,
asking some questions,
00:50:04.110 --> 00:50:06.550
I'm going to jump in
and ask one as well.
00:50:06.550 --> 00:50:09.980
And that is, that it doesn't appear
00:50:09.980 --> 00:50:14.980
that you're very far along
on your EVM target for 2021,
00:50:15.630 --> 00:50:17.493
which of course is pressing upon us.
00:50:19.470 --> 00:50:22.410
Not that we all, I'm not
saying that we all embrace
00:50:22.410 --> 00:50:25.580
and think it's the best
strategy particularly,
00:50:25.580 --> 00:50:28.403
but what is your plan to
catch up on your target?
00:50:29.690 --> 00:50:32.890
And if you're going to
cover that in future slides
00:50:32.890 --> 00:50:34.820
and find that you handle it
00:50:34.820 --> 00:50:37.610
when you talk more about the PSPS.
00:50:37.610 --> 00:50:38.443
Yeah President Batjer,
00:50:38.443 --> 00:50:40.463
which program were you referring to?
00:50:41.460 --> 00:50:44.203
The vegetation management.
00:50:46.040 --> 00:50:47.320
Oh, okay.
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:48.203
The EVM.
00:50:50.420 --> 00:50:53.280
So enhanced vegetation
management, gotcha.
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:57.000
Yeah, we plan to try,
I mean, a lot of this
00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:01.360
is dependent upon working
with customer land owners
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:04.070
and property owners
because we don't have
00:51:04.070 --> 00:51:07.670
the legal authority to go to
the clearances that we want to,
00:51:07.670 --> 00:51:09.050
so it really is dependent upon us
00:51:09.050 --> 00:51:10.740
to work with the customers.
00:51:10.740 --> 00:51:14.100
So we try and get through
this as quickly as we can
00:51:14.100 --> 00:51:15.710
and explain to customers the benefits
00:51:15.710 --> 00:51:17.430
of what we're trying to do.
00:51:17.430 --> 00:51:19.620
We did do 17,000 last year.
00:51:19.620 --> 00:51:24.620
So, confident that we'll be
able to get to 17,000 this year.
00:51:24.740 --> 00:51:28.930
We do do the inspections
in the first part of the year,
00:51:28.930 --> 00:51:31.920
so we can get most of the
trends and clearances done
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:34.890
by fire season, in our
high fire threat district.
00:51:34.890 --> 00:51:36.980
So there's a lot of
trimming and clearances
00:51:36.980 --> 00:51:38.570
going on right now, so I would imagine
00:51:38.570 --> 00:51:40.990
that we're going to be catching up a lot
00:51:40.990 --> 00:51:44.240
over the next month
or so with that number,
00:51:44.240 --> 00:51:47.930
that's at 6944 right now, is
that what you're referring to?
00:51:47.930 --> 00:51:49.013
Yes.
Okay.
00:51:50.507 --> 00:51:54.530
And there's very little time
to do the catch-up, so okay.
00:51:54.530 --> 00:51:56.860
Are there any other questions
since we've interrupted
00:51:56.860 --> 00:51:59.253
the presentation at this point?
00:52:00.610 --> 00:52:02.683
Okay, please carry on.
00:52:04.275 --> 00:52:05.753
All right, I think we're,
00:52:06.600 --> 00:52:10.610
this is just transitioning to
the next slide, slide eight.
00:52:10.610 --> 00:52:13.513
Which is slide eight.
Yes, that's right.
00:52:14.590 --> 00:52:16.260
And so hopefully this provides
00:52:16.260 --> 00:52:18.240
the level of thoughtfulness and detail
00:52:18.240 --> 00:52:20.490
that you wanted in your
opening remarks, President Batjer,
00:52:20.490 --> 00:52:22.650
but we really want to let people know
00:52:22.650 --> 00:52:27.110
how the PSPS decision
process works at SDG&E.
00:52:27.110 --> 00:52:31.300
So, very much reliant upon
the situational awareness tool
00:52:31.300 --> 00:52:34.050
that Mr. Geraghty opened up with,
00:52:34.050 --> 00:52:36.640
there's other tools that we've developed
00:52:36.640 --> 00:52:38.700
or used over the course
of the past few years,
00:52:38.700 --> 00:52:41.940
our fire potential index is a key tool,
00:52:41.940 --> 00:52:44.440
we have the Santa
Ana wildfire threat index
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:48.160
of red flag warnings,
but one of the reasons
00:52:48.160 --> 00:52:51.780
I started with how we
evaluate the risk scores
00:52:51.780 --> 00:52:55.140
for both wildfire risk and
PSPS risk going forward,
00:52:55.140 --> 00:52:56.730
was to talk about our
mitigation strategies,
00:52:56.730 --> 00:52:59.740
but also this is going to be going into
00:52:59.740 --> 00:53:03.244
informing our PSPS
decision-making process.
00:53:03.244 --> 00:53:05.610
So we're going to have, on
a segment by segment basis,
00:53:05.610 --> 00:53:07.250
which is how we make our decisions
00:53:07.250 --> 00:53:09.800
during PSPS events at SDG&E,
00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:12.210
on a segment by segment
basis for that event,
00:53:12.210 --> 00:53:13.960
based on the forecast.
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:16.230
We're going to have
a wildfire risk score,
00:53:16.230 --> 00:53:18.990
as well a the PSPS risk score
00:53:18.990 --> 00:53:22.010
to help us inform the
decision-making process
00:53:22.010 --> 00:53:24.500
and that we can come
back to that in a second,
00:53:24.500 --> 00:53:27.510
but more, that the quantitative
things that go into this
00:53:27.510 --> 00:53:31.190
is we start on a segment
by segment basis
00:53:31.190 --> 00:53:33.880
looking and establishing alerts speeds,
00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:37.730
and what alert speeds
are, it's not the threshold
00:53:37.730 --> 00:53:41.820
at which we absolutely turn
power off, it's an alert to us.
00:53:41.820 --> 00:53:44.030
So we're at a decision point
00:53:44.030 --> 00:53:46.790
and need to take all
things into consideration.
00:53:46.790 --> 00:53:48.750
So our baseline alert wind speeds
00:53:48.750 --> 00:53:51.100
are really the 99th
percentile wind speeds
00:53:51.100 --> 00:53:53.130
at each weather station.
00:53:53.130 --> 00:53:57.960
We have data that supports
the number of events
00:53:57.960 --> 00:53:59.420
we see happen on our system
00:53:59.420 --> 00:54:02.410
once we start getting
to the 99th percentile,
00:54:02.410 --> 00:54:05.742
this means that these facilities
only see this wind speed,
00:54:05.742 --> 00:54:09.903
1% of the time, so it's a
pretty high weather event.
00:54:10.770 --> 00:54:13.280
Then we take a look at
our vegetation risk index.
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:16.890
Our vegetation risk index is a tool
00:54:16.890 --> 00:54:21.000
that we've developed
internally that takes the species,
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:22.647
the proximity of trees to our line,
00:54:22.647 --> 00:54:25.360
the number of trees in the area,
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:29.300
historical number of
outages, those sorts of things,
00:54:29.300 --> 00:54:34.300
and develop a vegetation
risk index for segments
00:54:34.390 --> 00:54:36.240
that have high vegetation risk index,
00:54:36.240 --> 00:54:38.520
that alert speed is going
to be adjusted down
00:54:38.520 --> 00:54:40.470
to the 95th percentile.
00:54:40.470 --> 00:54:44.500
We have data that supports
the number of vegetation contacts
00:54:44.500 --> 00:54:47.970
that we see exponentially
starts to go up,
00:54:47.970 --> 00:54:50.653
once we get to the 95th
percentile wind speed.
00:54:51.980 --> 00:54:54.130
Obviously we're all doing a lot of work
00:54:54.130 --> 00:54:56.942
on our distribution system
and this is taking the place
00:54:56.942 --> 00:55:01.620
over the course of the entire
year, so when events hit us,
00:55:01.620 --> 00:55:02.880
we don't know when
they're going to happen
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:04.330
or for how long they're going to be,
00:55:04.330 --> 00:55:07.040
but we have certain
segments of our systems
00:55:07.040 --> 00:55:09.490
that are what we call in
temporary configuration.
00:55:10.410 --> 00:55:13.990
We're installing steel poles
and increasing the spacing
00:55:13.990 --> 00:55:17.130
so some of these
conductors are spread out
00:55:17.130 --> 00:55:18.190
and on temporary arms
00:55:18.190 --> 00:55:19.990
and in sort of a temporary configuration
00:55:19.990 --> 00:55:23.690
and not secured the way
that we would want them
00:55:23.690 --> 00:55:26.300
in their final state
and so we can adjust
00:55:26.300 --> 00:55:28.660
the alert speed down
for areas that we have
00:55:28.660 --> 00:55:30.510
construction going on
00:55:30.510 --> 00:55:32.776
and then for areas that
we have had hardened,
00:55:32.776 --> 00:55:35.760
the alert speed gets adjusted upwards.
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:38.780
So, those are all the
quantitative things
00:55:38.780 --> 00:55:42.870
that go in how we
make our PSPS decision,
00:55:42.870 --> 00:55:44.550
but then we have the qualitative things
00:55:44.550 --> 00:55:46.550
which are in the third box on the right.
00:55:47.420 --> 00:55:51.190
We have 40 to 50
observers in key locations
00:55:51.190 --> 00:55:55.260
in our service territory and
get frequent updates from them
00:55:55.260 --> 00:55:57.200
on what they're seeing in the area.
00:55:57.200 --> 00:55:59.600
Are the lines staying pretty still
00:55:59.600 --> 00:56:01.330
and just kind of swaying with the wind
00:56:01.330 --> 00:56:02.680
or are they jumping around?
00:56:03.790 --> 00:56:06.990
Are we seeing the vegetation really sway
00:56:06.990 --> 00:56:11.450
and blow towards the lines
and soon things break off trees,
00:56:11.450 --> 00:56:14.150
then that's something that we would want
00:56:14.150 --> 00:56:16.050
to take into account,
or we're seeing debris
00:56:16.050 --> 00:56:16.883
fly through the year.
00:56:16.883 --> 00:56:19.870
Those are typically the
three questions we would ask.
00:56:19.870 --> 00:56:21.850
And then we have the next two boxes,
00:56:21.850 --> 00:56:24.740
which are really related to the ability
00:56:24.740 --> 00:56:28.430
to provide an initial
attack if an ignition starts,
00:56:28.430 --> 00:56:30.860
if we have an existing
fire in the service territory
00:56:30.860 --> 00:56:33.490
and resources are already deployed,
00:56:33.490 --> 00:56:37.470
and we have a draw down
on firefighting resources,
00:56:37.470 --> 00:56:40.030
that's going to affect our
decision making process
00:56:40.030 --> 00:56:42.080
and then system performance.
00:56:42.080 --> 00:56:43.980
Really any outage on the system
00:56:43.980 --> 00:56:45.910
is the possibility for an ignition
00:56:45.910 --> 00:56:48.940
and so regardless of the
quantitative things we're seeing,
00:56:48.940 --> 00:56:51.240
if we're seeing outages on the system,
00:56:51.240 --> 00:56:53.400
that's going to lead to a
more conservative decision.
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:55.890
So those are more of
the qualitative things
00:56:55.890 --> 00:56:57.440
and I'll probably stop right here
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:00.153
because I'm sure there will
probably be some questions.
00:57:03.810 --> 00:57:07.003
Anybody have any
questions for Mr. Jenkins?
00:57:08.721 --> 00:57:11.030
Okay-
President Batjer, if I can,
00:57:11.030 --> 00:57:13.970
just real quickly and this
is kind of on the question
00:57:13.970 --> 00:57:16.360
I had asked earlier, I appreciate this.
00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:18.470
This is a helpful to really understand
00:57:18.470 --> 00:57:21.650
the thoughtfulness of
how you get to the decision,
00:57:21.650 --> 00:57:23.840
but curious, what has
changed in any of this
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:25.470
or even in the statistics that you read,
00:57:25.470 --> 00:57:29.350
the different percentiles for the,
00:57:29.350 --> 00:57:31.040
specifically in the middle box,
00:57:31.040 --> 00:57:33.490
what's change from last
year to this year if any?
00:57:36.240 --> 00:57:40.070
Well, we have the
history of what will change
00:57:40.070 --> 00:57:42.940
the sort of the 95th and
99th percentile wind speeds,
00:57:42.940 --> 00:57:45.813
we're constantly accumulating history.
00:57:46.770 --> 00:57:50.970
The vegetation risk index
probably doesn't move a whole lot,
00:57:50.970 --> 00:57:52.330
although areas that we've went in
00:57:52.330 --> 00:57:56.950
and enhanced the vegetation
clearances in an entire segment,
00:57:56.950 --> 00:58:01.180
we'll be able to lower
that to a medium or low risk
00:58:01.180 --> 00:58:04.190
because the clearances
are greater, obviously.
00:58:04.190 --> 00:58:06.470
For things that we've
completed since last year,
00:58:06.470 --> 00:58:08.150
that aren't in the
temporary configuration,
00:58:08.150 --> 00:58:09.170
they're going to get adjusted back
00:58:09.170 --> 00:58:11.200
to what their normal
wind speeds would be,
00:58:11.200 --> 00:58:14.750
not being in a
construction type situation.
00:58:14.750 --> 00:58:17.060
And then obviously we've
completed some hardenings
00:58:17.060 --> 00:58:19.610
since last year and
that will adjust the floor
00:58:19.610 --> 00:58:20.730
on areas where we have.
00:58:20.730 --> 00:58:23.090
Again, it needs to be the entire
segment hardened, though,
00:58:23.090 --> 00:58:26.340
because if we have hardened half of it
00:58:26.340 --> 00:58:27.840
and half of it is not hardened,
00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:28.850
we're not going to be able to make
00:58:28.850 --> 00:58:30.450
a different decision point, obviously,
00:58:30.450 --> 00:58:31.450
'cause we have to...
00:58:33.000 --> 00:58:34.930
The risk needs to be for
00:58:34.930 --> 00:58:39.913
the lowest common denominator
of that particular segment.
00:58:41.220 --> 00:58:42.100
So John, just to be clear,
00:58:42.100 --> 00:58:44.320
the metrics then for the thresholds
00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:47.210
in the different
sections, the vegetation,
00:58:47.210 --> 00:58:49.340
the VRI, the hardening,
00:58:49.340 --> 00:58:51.350
those metrics or those
thresholds are the same
00:58:51.350 --> 00:58:52.703
as what you used last year?
00:58:54.990 --> 00:58:58.310
Well, I just mentioned
that they have
00:58:58.310 --> 00:58:59.490
been able to adjust slightly,
00:58:59.490 --> 00:59:01.720
based on the explanation
that I just gave,
00:59:01.720 --> 00:59:03.440
the changes in the
historical wind speeds,
00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:05.700
which probably don't vary a whole lot.
00:59:05.700 --> 00:59:08.340
But then if we've been able to reduce
00:59:08.340 --> 00:59:11.010
from a high vegetation
risk to a medium or low,
00:59:11.010 --> 00:59:13.500
and then not having things
in temporary configuration,
00:59:13.500 --> 00:59:15.793
obviously, we've completed
projects since last year
00:59:15.793 --> 00:59:17.393
and moved on to different areas.
00:59:19.410 --> 00:59:22.610
So does that mean
that some of the things
00:59:22.610 --> 00:59:26.110
that you've done differently
this year than last year,
00:59:26.110 --> 00:59:30.250
since we're all trying to
achieve the objective and goal
00:59:30.250 --> 00:59:34.683
of reducing the scope, scale,
frequency of PSPS events,
00:59:38.420 --> 00:59:42.580
do you believe that the new wildfire
00:59:42.580 --> 00:59:45.020
versus PSPS risk forecast, et cetera,
00:59:45.020 --> 00:59:49.802
are going to actually
reach that objective
00:59:49.802 --> 00:59:54.802
of reducing the scope, scale,
and frequency of PSPS events?
00:59:57.050 --> 00:59:58.250
Yeah, absolutely.
00:59:58.250 --> 01:00:01.470
And that's part of our shift in focus,
01:00:01.470 --> 01:00:03.623
is we're treating every segment,
01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:06.940
we're analyzing every
segment collectively,
01:00:06.940 --> 01:00:09.180
because again, we need
to harden the entire segment
01:00:09.180 --> 01:00:10.620
in order to really take advantage
01:00:10.620 --> 01:00:15.620
of reducing the wildfire
risks and the PSPS impacts.
01:00:16.630 --> 01:00:18.790
And so our focus is on-
01:00:18.790 --> 01:00:23.790
And your prioritization of
that hardening is advanced by
01:00:25.870 --> 01:00:29.443
or through your risk
management prioritization.
01:00:30.872 --> 01:00:35.872
And then the what you
do is part of that analysis,
01:00:36.980 --> 01:00:39.710
whether it's covered conductor,
01:00:39.710 --> 01:00:42.130
veg management, or undergrounding,
01:00:42.130 --> 01:00:44.120
or some combination thereof, right?
01:00:44.120 --> 01:00:47.323
I mean, you you're
prioritizing by the risk.
01:00:48.530 --> 01:00:51.420
That's right, so we're
going to analyze a segment
01:00:51.420 --> 01:00:54.360
and it could say 1/3 of it
we need to underground
01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:56.610
because of the risk in that area
01:00:56.610 --> 01:01:01.320
and we're going to provide
covered conductor solution
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:04.420
for the other 2/3 and
therefore reducing the risk
01:01:04.420 --> 01:01:06.940
in the most optimal way
for this entire segment,
01:01:06.940 --> 01:01:09.160
and once that's complete,
01:01:09.160 --> 01:01:13.423
it will definitely adjust
the PSPS alert speed up.
01:01:14.950 --> 01:01:15.883
Okay. Thank you.
01:01:16.930 --> 01:01:20.664
So just to clarify
then, Mr. Jenkins,
01:01:20.664 --> 01:01:25.664
when you say adjust the alert speed up,
01:01:25.750 --> 01:01:27.903
can you be a little bit more
clear on what you mean by that?
01:01:27.903 --> 01:01:30.370
Because I think what
Chief Berlant was getting at
01:01:30.370 --> 01:01:35.100
was the 95% versus 99%,
that percent hasn't changed.
01:01:35.100 --> 01:01:38.440
What you're saying is, based
on all the different factors
01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:40.610
or adjustments you guys have made,
01:01:40.610 --> 01:01:44.760
what triggers the 95 or
98 or 99 might change,
01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:46.910
but you guys fundamentally
aren't changing
01:01:46.910 --> 01:01:48.810
that you're using those thresholds,
01:01:48.810 --> 01:01:50.860
is that an appropriate
way to look at it?
01:01:52.050 --> 01:01:53.500
Yeah, I mean, maybe
I'll just walk through
01:01:53.500 --> 01:01:55.900
like a made up example here.
01:01:55.900 --> 01:01:59.400
Let's say we have a baseline
alert speed for a segment
01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:04.400
that is 50 miles per hour
and it's a high vegetation risk,
01:02:04.930 --> 01:02:07.893
so it's going to get
adjusted down to 45,
01:02:09.050 --> 01:02:10.290
we'll leave temporary configuration
01:02:10.290 --> 01:02:12.224
out of it first a second,
01:02:12.224 --> 01:02:13.840
but then because of
our hardening efforts
01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:15.950
and enhanced vegetation clearances
01:02:15.950 --> 01:02:19.960
and being able to
harden the entire segment,
01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:22.460
the alert speed's going
to be able to go up to 55.
01:02:25.040 --> 01:02:26.090
Does that make sense?
01:02:28.943 --> 01:02:33.943
So, in that example, would it
be appropriate to understand
01:02:34.047 --> 01:02:37.585
the answer to Chief Berlant's question
01:02:37.585 --> 01:02:41.002
that really, from
last year to this year,
01:02:42.570 --> 01:02:45.860
at an individual segment perspective,
01:02:45.860 --> 01:02:50.090
there have been some changes
of moving the threshold up.
01:02:50.090 --> 01:02:52.493
Is that an accurate statement?
Yes.
01:03:01.390 --> 01:03:03.653
Okay, any other
questions at this time?
01:03:05.820 --> 01:03:09.163
All right John, why
don't you continue on.
01:03:10.278 --> 01:03:12.803
All right, next slide please.
01:03:15.488 --> 01:03:18.630
I just wanted to show how
we take all this information
01:03:18.630 --> 01:03:20.130
into account to make our decisions,
01:03:20.130 --> 01:03:22.860
so not every piece of
information on this slide,
01:03:22.860 --> 01:03:24.260
but obviously we're taking into account
01:03:24.260 --> 01:03:26.740
a lot of information
when we're in the events.
01:03:26.740 --> 01:03:29.090
So this is the dashboard that we use
01:03:29.090 --> 01:03:30.590
as the officer's in charge
01:03:30.590 --> 01:03:33.250
that are ultimately responsible
for making that decision,
01:03:33.250 --> 01:03:34.893
whether to de-energize or not.
01:03:35.860 --> 01:03:39.170
So on the left we have the
name of our weather stations
01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:42.490
and then we have a checkbox there,
01:03:42.490 --> 01:03:44.920
which is making sure
that they've been notified,
01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:48.310
so obviously all of those
should be checked in the events,
01:03:48.310 --> 01:03:51.890
and then the next one is the device
01:03:51.890 --> 01:03:53.610
that's associated with
that weather station.
01:03:53.610 --> 01:03:56.276
So every weather station
has a device or devices
01:03:56.276 --> 01:03:58.870
that are associated for the weather data
01:03:58.870 --> 01:04:01.310
that that weather station provides.
01:04:01.310 --> 01:04:05.210
And then next over we
have the real-time gust speed,
01:04:05.210 --> 01:04:07.190
so that changes every time we get reads
01:04:07.190 --> 01:04:11.040
and updates automatically.
01:04:11.040 --> 01:04:13.190
We have the alert
speed there, and again,
01:04:13.190 --> 01:04:15.300
this is just an example slide,
01:04:15.300 --> 01:04:17.620
our alert speeds
aren't 10 and 15 and 20,
01:04:17.620 --> 01:04:20.293
they're usually more
in the 40 to 50 range.
01:04:21.950 --> 01:04:23.980
And so we have the alert speed listed
01:04:23.980 --> 01:04:26.680
and then based on the
actual gust that comes in,
01:04:26.680 --> 01:04:28.940
it'll let us know the
difference in between
01:04:28.940 --> 01:04:30.210
the alert speed and the gust.
01:04:30.210 --> 01:04:33.380
If the gust is over the alert
speed, it shows up in red,
01:04:33.380 --> 01:04:36.650
meaning we should be looking
at making a decision here,
01:04:36.650 --> 01:04:39.270
if it's in yellow, that just
means it's getting close,
01:04:39.270 --> 01:04:41.700
within five miles per
hour of the alert speed,
01:04:41.700 --> 01:04:43.570
the latest gust was,
01:04:43.570 --> 01:04:45.620
we have the historical information
01:04:45.620 --> 01:04:50.530
next over to the right of the
99th percentile wind speeds
01:04:50.530 --> 01:04:52.290
for both of those segments.
01:04:52.290 --> 01:04:53.960
We have the vegetation risk, again,
01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:57.180
just a bucketized into
low, medium and high.
01:04:57.180 --> 01:04:59.920
We have what the forecast
was for that segment
01:04:59.920 --> 01:05:03.490
just so we can see how we're
trending towards the forecast,
01:05:03.490 --> 01:05:05.510
the fire potential
index and then we have
01:05:05.510 --> 01:05:07.770
some customer
information off to the right,
01:05:07.770 --> 01:05:11.970
the projected meters, medical
baseline customer counts,
01:05:11.970 --> 01:05:15.440
the communities involved, we
have some tabs up at the top,
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:18.130
once we de-energize
the segment, on this slide,
01:05:18.130 --> 01:05:20.420
it moves to a de-energized dashboard
01:05:20.420 --> 01:05:22.320
so it doesn't clutter up this slide.
01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:24.400
But everything's timestamped,
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:26.820
it helps us to fill out
the post event reports.
01:05:26.820 --> 01:05:30.690
It lets us know when the
customers were notified,
01:05:30.690 --> 01:05:32.170
when we de-energized them.
01:05:32.170 --> 01:05:35.640
As we go back, we
document the okays to patrol
01:05:35.640 --> 01:05:37.510
and when we were planning to reenergize,
01:05:37.510 --> 01:05:41.150
there's some critical
facility details up at the top
01:05:41.150 --> 01:05:43.000
that our customer service people use
01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:46.570
to make sure that we're
aware of critical facilities
01:05:46.570 --> 01:05:49.730
that's in any particular segment.
01:05:49.730 --> 01:05:51.610
So anyway, just wanted
to show the dashboard.
01:05:51.610 --> 01:05:54.590
This is really sort of
taking all the information
01:05:54.590 --> 01:05:56.140
that I described on the previous slide
01:05:56.140 --> 01:05:57.677
and putting it in a way
that we can digest it
01:05:57.677 --> 01:05:59.013
and make decisions from.
01:06:01.240 --> 01:06:04.223
John, two questions.
01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:08.160
All of this information,
all of this data
01:06:08.160 --> 01:06:10.980
is coming into your center
01:06:10.980 --> 01:06:14.230
and who is it that
sitting around that table
01:06:14.230 --> 01:06:15.490
that's going to make the decision,
01:06:15.490 --> 01:06:17.940
okay we got to pull,
we have to pull the plug,
01:06:17.940 --> 01:06:20.380
we gotta call the PS,
we've warned the PSPS,
01:06:20.380 --> 01:06:22.220
now we're gonna do it.
01:06:22.220 --> 01:06:24.610
They've got this information
plus other information,
01:06:24.610 --> 01:06:29.210
I'm assuming, who
actually makes the decision?
01:06:29.210 --> 01:06:31.620
That would be myself,
Kevin Geraghty or Will Speer,
01:06:31.620 --> 01:06:33.500
there's three of us that are typically
01:06:33.500 --> 01:06:35.830
the officers in charge during,
01:06:35.830 --> 01:06:37.590
for weather events in particular
01:06:38.527 --> 01:06:40.127
and it would be one of us three.
01:06:41.450 --> 01:06:43.913
And how
much time, generally,
01:06:45.010 --> 01:06:48.780
do you realistically believe there is,
01:06:48.780 --> 01:06:51.267
between calling it and
telling your customers
01:06:51.267 --> 01:06:52.720
you're going to call it.
01:06:52.720 --> 01:06:55.333
You've already done a
warning, maybe for 48 hours,
01:06:56.230 --> 01:06:59.280
but what kind of timeframe
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:01.880
before you actually shut off the power,
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:04.250
on anyone in your segment?
01:07:04.250 --> 01:07:06.333
So from the time
that we make the decision,
01:07:06.333 --> 01:07:08.963
'til the time that the
device is actually opened?
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:11.153
Yes.
01:07:12.928 --> 01:07:15.980
How much time would a
customer have to really prepare,
01:07:15.980 --> 01:07:18.070
I know they've been under a warning,
01:07:18.070 --> 01:07:21.010
hopefully you've at
least been able to do that,
01:07:21.010 --> 01:07:23.223
and then you all have made a decision,
01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:29.420
and how much time,
generally, would it be
01:07:29.420 --> 01:07:33.880
between the time you
notify the customers
01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:36.780
that you're going to
actually shut off the power
01:07:36.780 --> 01:07:37.883
and actually doing it?
01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:41.453
With all of this information?
01:07:42.884 --> 01:07:44.740
From the time that
we make the decision
01:07:44.740 --> 01:07:48.960
to de-energize the device to
the time it's actually opened
01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:50.800
is only about five minutes.
01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:53.270
All of our, all of our devices
are operated remotely,
01:07:53.270 --> 01:07:55.893
so none of these are manual operations.
01:08:02.070 --> 01:08:03.747
Okay. Thank you.
01:08:03.747 --> 01:08:07.043
All right,
next slide please.
01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:16.810
And the last topic I wanted
to cover in more detail
01:08:16.810 --> 01:08:20.720
is just our vegetation management.
01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:25.403
As I mentioned earlier, we
monitor, track, trim or remove,
01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:31.840
do all that work for 460,000
trees in our service territory.
01:08:31.850 --> 01:08:34.820
Over half of those are in
the high fire threat district.
01:08:34.820 --> 01:08:37.970
So proud of the work
that that our group does
01:08:37.970 --> 01:08:40.150
in vegetation management.
01:08:40.150 --> 01:08:44.270
We've had five contacts in
our HFTD this year so far.
01:08:44.270 --> 01:08:46.390
We don't like to have any,
01:08:46.390 --> 01:08:50.600
but we're talking about
a population in HFTD,
01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:54.890
over 250,000 trees and
we've had five contacts
01:08:54.890 --> 01:08:56.540
and one ignition thus far this year.
01:08:56.540 --> 01:08:58.500
The one ignition was
not in the HFTD though,
01:08:58.500 --> 01:08:59.750
so I should clarify that.
01:09:01.290 --> 01:09:03.690
We also clear all of our overhangs,
01:09:03.690 --> 01:09:05.900
so we have no overhangs on our systems,
01:09:05.900 --> 01:09:09.910
so we get the 12 foot
clearance in the HFTD
01:09:09.910 --> 01:09:13.570
for the identified species
that I talked about earlier.
01:09:13.570 --> 01:09:17.110
We're trying to get up
to 25 in certain situations,
01:09:17.110 --> 01:09:20.430
but we don't have any
overhangs over our lines.
01:09:20.430 --> 01:09:24.150
So typically, the rural states,
01:09:24.150 --> 01:09:27.620
we try to get radio clearance
so that can leave trees
01:09:27.620 --> 01:09:30.030
hanging directly over
the tops of the lines,
01:09:30.030 --> 01:09:32.473
but we clear all the
way up through the sky.
01:09:33.378 --> 01:09:35.178
So we eliminate all of our overhangs
01:09:36.230 --> 01:09:41.230
and just been mentioning
the vegetation risk index
01:09:41.340 --> 01:09:44.950
throughout the slide and
showed you how we use it
01:09:44.950 --> 01:09:46.480
for our mitigation strategies
01:09:46.480 --> 01:09:48.913
as well as our PSPS
decision making process.
01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:53.390
So if there are no
questions on this slide
01:09:53.390 --> 01:09:54.933
or any of the previous slides,
01:09:55.949 --> 01:09:57.020
I'd like to turn it over to Tashonda
01:09:57.020 --> 01:09:59.480
to talk about everything we're doing
01:09:59.480 --> 01:10:01.880
in terms of stakeholder
and customer engagement.
01:10:03.530 --> 01:10:06.090
Thanks
John and I thank you all
01:10:06.090 --> 01:10:08.820
for having us here this afternoon.
01:10:08.820 --> 01:10:11.154
Sound check, can-
(audio glitch)
01:10:11.154 --> 01:10:12.463
Can you all hear me.
Sorry, before you go.
01:10:12.463 --> 01:10:13.624
I think
Commissioner Rechtschaffen
01:10:13.624 --> 01:10:17.120
has a question.
Yeah sorry.
01:10:17.120 --> 01:10:19.873
Since I will not be able
to stay for the entire,
01:10:19.873 --> 01:10:22.910
I don't know if I can stay
for the entire presentation.
01:10:22.910 --> 01:10:26.630
John, I think you're the
right person to ask this
01:10:26.630 --> 01:10:28.190
and maybe it should have come earlier,
01:10:28.190 --> 01:10:32.720
but in addition to just
saying in response to
01:10:34.320 --> 01:10:36.060
Chief Berlant's question
about what's different
01:10:36.060 --> 01:10:38.000
from this year and last year,
01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.240
not on the PSPS risk paradigm,
01:10:40.240 --> 01:10:44.310
but on the wildfire
safety risk approach,
01:10:44.310 --> 01:10:48.470
how are you factoring in
nonhistorical climate data,
01:10:48.470 --> 01:10:50.710
by which I mean, worst case data.
01:10:50.710 --> 01:10:53.070
We've seen, the past two years,
01:10:53.070 --> 01:10:55.890
these extreme heat storms,
unprecedented drought
01:10:55.890 --> 01:10:59.650
and unprecedented wildfires really defy
01:10:59.650 --> 01:11:02.330
all of our past historical data,
01:11:02.330 --> 01:11:05.990
so can you speak very
quickly to the extent
01:11:05.990 --> 01:11:07.900
to which that is factoring into
01:11:07.900 --> 01:11:11.433
your wildfire mitigation risk analysis?
01:11:13.190 --> 01:11:15.350
Yeah, one of the ways is with
01:11:15.350 --> 01:11:18.550
the situational awareness
tool that Kevin opened up with,
01:11:18.550 --> 01:11:20.230
obviously we're getting
a lot of information
01:11:20.230 --> 01:11:23.760
related to forecast and we are sort of,
01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:28.760
unfortunately, beating the
forecast in some of these years
01:11:28.910 --> 01:11:30.180
and what we've seen over the course
01:11:30.180 --> 01:11:32.430
of the past two years specifically.
01:11:32.430 --> 01:11:34.670
But also, these tools fuel things
01:11:34.670 --> 01:11:35.790
like our fire potential index,
01:11:35.790 --> 01:11:38.170
we really, really rely
on a fire potential index
01:11:38.170 --> 01:11:41.460
heading into an event to let us know
01:11:41.460 --> 01:11:44.900
what type of event it is or we have.
01:11:44.900 --> 01:11:46.190
Right now we're in high,
01:11:46.190 --> 01:11:50.440
we typically go into a
fire potential index of high,
01:11:50.440 --> 01:11:55.440
which, for us, is a range
of 11 to 14 around June
01:11:56.600 --> 01:11:57.433
and we stay in there
01:11:57.433 --> 01:12:00.430
for most of the rest of
the year, unfortunately.
01:12:00.430 --> 01:12:02.740
Then when we get to
the Santa Ana conditions,
01:12:02.740 --> 01:12:04.210
that's what kicks it into the extreme,
01:12:04.210 --> 01:12:06.840
which is 15, 16, 17.
01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:09.350
So as we're seeing changes
in the weather patterns,
01:12:09.350 --> 01:12:10.860
we are starting to see right now,
01:12:10.860 --> 01:12:13.200
I mean, we're not even
in a fire weather event,
01:12:13.200 --> 01:12:15.984
but we're so hot and
dry, we're in a little bit
01:12:15.984 --> 01:12:20.040
of a heat wave here today in San Diego,
01:12:20.040 --> 01:12:21.840
we're so hot and dry.
01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:24.680
Even last year we had
rain up through April,
01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:26.830
which helped but we
haven't had any measure
01:12:28.170 --> 01:12:31.230
since February of this year
01:12:31.230 --> 01:12:33.020
and so we're still hot and dry.
01:12:33.020 --> 01:12:35.310
Right now, potential index of 14,
01:12:35.310 --> 01:12:38.740
which is the last one
that's in the high category
01:12:38.740 --> 01:12:40.123
before we go into extreme.
01:12:40.978 --> 01:12:44.520
So that's one of the ways
that it really lets us know
01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:47.423
and stays ahead of the
changing weather patterns.
01:12:50.910 --> 01:12:51.810
Okay, thank you.
01:12:55.610 --> 01:12:57.260
President Batjer, just to...
01:12:57.260 --> 01:13:00.950
Maybe it's a tweener between
John and the next speaker here,
01:13:00.950 --> 01:13:05.950
but in your slide where
you showed your checkbox
01:13:05.960 --> 01:13:08.980
on the notification to de-energize,
01:13:08.980 --> 01:13:13.590
is that notification to all customers
01:13:13.590 --> 01:13:16.093
or are you talking about a specific set?
01:13:18.070 --> 01:13:21.500
No, that's the
notification to all customers.
01:13:21.500 --> 01:13:24.880
Obviously, we're trying to walk the...
01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:26.440
We never want to de-energize somebody
01:13:26.440 --> 01:13:28.600
that did not receive a notification,
01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:31.390
but we also don't
want to notify the world
01:13:31.390 --> 01:13:33.120
every time we have a Santa Ana event.
01:13:33.120 --> 01:13:36.990
So, you know, in our previous,
01:13:36.990 --> 01:13:38.543
in the large event last year,
01:13:38.543 --> 01:13:41.800
when we de-energized 74,000 customers,
01:13:41.800 --> 01:13:45.223
we ended up notifying around 96,000.
01:13:46.290 --> 01:13:50.143
We did miss 2000 customers where we had,
01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:52.880
two things happened,
01:13:52.880 --> 01:13:55.530
we had a sectionalizing
device that wouldn't operate
01:13:55.530 --> 01:13:57.410
so we had to go to an upstream device,
01:13:57.410 --> 01:13:59.360
therefore incorporating customers
01:13:59.360 --> 01:14:03.260
that weren't anticipated to
be involved in a PSPS event,
01:14:03.260 --> 01:14:04.500
that was one reason.
01:14:04.500 --> 01:14:07.730
The second reason was we
had some weather show up
01:14:07.730 --> 01:14:10.420
that didn't really match the
forecast in a couple of areas
01:14:10.420 --> 01:14:13.160
that caused us to de-energize customers
01:14:13.160 --> 01:14:14.190
that were not notified.
01:14:14.190 --> 01:14:16.740
But again, it was around 2000 customers
01:14:16.740 --> 01:14:19.880
in that large event last
year that were de-energized
01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:21.693
that did not receive a notification.
01:14:29.440 --> 01:14:32.050
So I'll do a quick sound check
01:14:32.050 --> 01:14:34.220
to make sure you all can hear me,
01:14:34.220 --> 01:14:36.170
if there's no other questions for John.
01:14:37.200 --> 01:14:41.730
We can hear you fine.
Okay, great. Thank you.
01:14:41.730 --> 01:14:43.070
My name is Tashonda Taylor,
01:14:43.070 --> 01:14:45.760
I'm the vice president
of customer operations,
01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:50.330
and I'm very pleased to
be here to talk to you about
01:14:50.330 --> 01:14:53.380
what we're doing in terms
of our focus on customers.
01:14:53.380 --> 01:14:55.752
However, I would like to go back to
01:14:55.752 --> 01:14:58.250
Commissioner Batjer's question,
01:14:58.250 --> 01:15:00.500
you were talking about
customer notifications,
01:15:00.500 --> 01:15:02.795
and I think John answered the question
01:15:02.795 --> 01:15:05.670
in regards to when our devices trip
01:15:05.670 --> 01:15:10.430
and we actually de-energize,
but to answer your question,
01:15:10.430 --> 01:15:13.160
we provide multiple
notifications to our customers.
01:15:13.160 --> 01:15:17.090
So we notify them at the 48 hour mark,
01:15:17.090 --> 01:15:19.720
as soon as we know that
they could be impacted,
01:15:19.720 --> 01:15:21.800
the 24-hour mark and 12,
01:15:21.800 --> 01:15:23.840
and then within one to four hours
01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:26.230
of us actually
de-energizing that circuit
01:15:26.230 --> 01:15:28.140
for a possible PSPS.
01:15:28.140 --> 01:15:32.380
We also update the PSPS mobile app
01:15:32.380 --> 01:15:34.540
and they receive a notification
01:15:34.540 --> 01:15:37.060
as soon as the de-energization happens.
01:15:37.060 --> 01:15:40.943
So I hope that better
clarifies your question.
01:15:43.040 --> 01:15:43.873
In regards to-
01:15:43.873 --> 01:15:45.550
Thank you,
Tashonda, it does.
01:15:45.550 --> 01:15:48.790
It does and I'll let you go ahead
01:15:48.790 --> 01:15:50.570
because I could follow up later,
01:15:50.570 --> 01:15:51.610
but I don't want to interrupt
01:15:51.610 --> 01:15:53.900
and time is kind of important here.
01:15:53.900 --> 01:15:56.930
So please go ahead, Miss Taylor.
01:15:56.930 --> 01:15:59.040
Thank you, and I will try
to get us through quickly
01:15:59.040 --> 01:16:01.393
because we do want
to hear the questions.
01:16:02.696 --> 01:16:06.060
But a key focus for us this
year, in this year's campaign,
01:16:06.060 --> 01:16:08.220
is to connect public
safety power shutoff
01:16:08.220 --> 01:16:09.910
to wildfire safety.
01:16:09.910 --> 01:16:14.050
Why we do it, how we do
it and how to prepare for it.
01:16:14.050 --> 01:16:16.760
We are utilizing more than
20 diverse communication
01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:20.270
platforms to ensure messaging
is being deployed quickly
01:16:20.270 --> 01:16:22.900
and connecting with
hard to reach customers.
01:16:22.900 --> 01:16:26.020
In addition to digital, radio and print,
01:16:26.020 --> 01:16:28.680
SDG&E utilizes grassroots channels
01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:31.560
to reach those without
internet or cellular access,
01:16:31.560 --> 01:16:34.550
such as printed flyers
at key community sites,
01:16:34.550 --> 01:16:37.193
roadsigns and community marquees.
01:16:38.410 --> 01:16:40.200
This is supplemented with partnerships
01:16:40.200 --> 01:16:43.280
with more than 200
community-based organizations
01:16:43.280 --> 01:16:47.240
to enhance customer
awareness and share information.
01:16:47.240 --> 01:16:52.240
We're communicating in
language with educational
01:16:53.550 --> 01:16:55.440
PSPS communications available
01:16:55.440 --> 01:16:57.050
in other prevalent languages,
01:16:57.050 --> 01:16:59.860
including American sign language.
01:16:59.860 --> 01:17:01.890
There are two additional
customized tracks
01:17:01.890 --> 01:17:04.430
within the PSPS awareness campaign,
01:17:04.430 --> 01:17:07.570
tribal and AFN communications.
01:17:07.570 --> 01:17:09.640
Each of these customer
segments will receive
01:17:09.640 --> 01:17:13.190
additional PSPS awareness
and preparedness communications
01:17:13.190 --> 01:17:16.483
that are actually culturally
appropriate and timely.
01:17:17.490 --> 01:17:19.980
In terms of our notifications,
01:17:19.980 --> 01:17:23.140
we are constantly refining
our notification procedures
01:17:23.140 --> 01:17:26.070
with some key improvements
this year, which includes,
01:17:26.070 --> 01:17:29.640
increasing accessibility by
adding deaf link technology
01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:31.260
to enable all notifications
01:17:31.260 --> 01:17:34.570
in American sign
language, audio and text,
01:17:34.570 --> 01:17:36.300
enhancing our system capacity
01:17:36.300 --> 01:17:39.963
to send notifications faster
once the PSPS occurs,
01:17:40.860 --> 01:17:44.080
refined messaging that
includes customer public safety
01:17:44.080 --> 01:17:48.270
and community partner
feedback and available resources,
01:17:48.270 --> 01:17:51.250
address level notifications
are available for anyone,
01:17:51.250 --> 01:17:52.960
including non-account holders,
01:17:52.960 --> 01:17:56.283
which is key for renters,
multifamily and mobile home parks.
01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:00.170
In terms of our community
resource centers,
01:18:00.170 --> 01:18:05.170
for 2021 SDG&E has added an
11th CRC location in Fallbrook,
01:18:05.380 --> 01:18:07.020
as well as a third mobile unit
01:18:07.020 --> 01:18:09.397
that can be dispatched
wherever it's needed.
01:18:10.260 --> 01:18:12.530
We have also incorporated
additional improvements
01:18:12.530 --> 01:18:15.520
for customers with access
and functional needs,
01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:17.534
including privacy screens,
01:18:17.534 --> 01:18:20.463
enhanced signage, and non-slip mats.
01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:22.950
Next slide, please.
01:18:26.440 --> 01:18:29.210
Our public safety partners
are first responders,
01:18:29.210 --> 01:18:33.083
local governments, water and
telecommunications utilities.
01:18:35.290 --> 01:18:36.680
I'm sorry, I just wanted to make sure
01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:38.030
we were on the right slide.
01:18:38.920 --> 01:18:40.940
We continue to enhance our partnerships
01:18:40.940 --> 01:18:43.170
and develop tools for
our public safety partners
01:18:43.170 --> 01:18:46.680
to empower them to
keep our committees safe.
01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:48.700
I'll start with the secure portal.
01:18:48.700 --> 01:18:51.750
New this year we are
launching a secure portal
01:18:51.750 --> 01:18:54.270
for our partners to keep
the most relevant information
01:18:54.270 --> 01:18:56.280
at their fingertips on the go,
01:18:56.280 --> 01:18:59.453
so they can better prepare
communities for PSPS events.
01:19:00.360 --> 01:19:02.070
This portal was developed with input
01:19:02.070 --> 01:19:03.390
from stakeholder interviews,
01:19:03.390 --> 01:19:06.250
representing each public
safety partner segment.
01:19:06.250 --> 01:19:09.950
That includes Cal OES,
San Diego County OES
01:19:09.950 --> 01:19:12.190
and local jurisdictional,
emergency managers,
01:19:12.190 --> 01:19:14.563
tribal governments, and fire agencies.
01:19:15.490 --> 01:19:18.260
We learned from our partners
pain points and challenges,
01:19:18.260 --> 01:19:20.760
and designed a portal
that is a one place resource
01:19:22.051 --> 01:19:25.800
that includes timely, accurate,
and shareable information.
01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:29.730
We have direct 24/7 contact
links, social media kits,
01:19:29.730 --> 01:19:31.640
partner talking points and much more,
01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:34.483
for our partners to keep
our community safe.
01:19:35.750 --> 01:19:38.310
We will have a portal
in place by September 1
01:19:38.310 --> 01:19:39.820
to provide a go-to resource
01:19:39.820 --> 01:19:42.653
for all our public safety
partners this fire season.
01:19:43.910 --> 01:19:46.140
Now I'll move to the telecommunications.
01:19:46.140 --> 01:19:49.960
We work in tandem with our
six primary telecom partners
01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:51.660
that support critical facilities
01:19:51.660 --> 01:19:53.660
and provide communication to support
01:19:53.660 --> 01:19:56.653
telecom resiliency during PSPS events.
01:19:57.890 --> 01:20:00.620
In addition to a broad
outreach campaign,
01:20:00.620 --> 01:20:03.880
SDG&E leverages it's
account executive team
01:20:03.880 --> 01:20:06.990
to work with assigned
communication carriers year round
01:20:06.990 --> 01:20:09.450
to ensure their contact
information is updated
01:20:09.450 --> 01:20:11.930
with multiple points
of contacts identified
01:20:11.930 --> 01:20:14.230
and to assess their resiliency plans
01:20:14.230 --> 01:20:15.983
and need for backup generation.
01:20:17.230 --> 01:20:21.220
In advance of PSPS events,
SDG&E's account executives
01:20:21.220 --> 01:20:23.370
also work in communication with carriers
01:20:23.370 --> 01:20:25.750
to ensure they know that what circuits
01:20:25.750 --> 01:20:27.190
are being de-energized,
01:20:27.190 --> 01:20:28.560
which allows them to plan for
01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:32.100
their backup generation
resources appropriately.
01:20:32.100 --> 01:20:34.320
Through our meetings with
the communication carriers,
01:20:34.320 --> 01:20:37.380
they have informed SDG&E
that they have been improving
01:20:37.380 --> 01:20:38.930
their resiliency of their network
01:20:38.930 --> 01:20:40.600
over the past several years,
01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:43.563
including acquiring
additional backup generation.
01:20:44.830 --> 01:20:46.850
In regards to the tribes.
01:20:46.850 --> 01:20:49.750
All tribes we serve are in
the high fire threat districts
01:20:49.750 --> 01:20:52.650
and are impacted by PSPS events.
01:20:52.650 --> 01:20:54.870
This year, we built on
our previous engagement
01:20:54.870 --> 01:20:57.190
with tribal communities working to solve
01:20:57.190 --> 01:21:00.080
the biggest challenges
we have heard tribes raise,
01:21:00.080 --> 01:21:03.163
including support for
microgrid resiliency planning.
01:21:04.200 --> 01:21:05.570
We have met with tribal partners
01:21:05.570 --> 01:21:08.940
to understand their greatest
challenges with PSPS events
01:21:08.940 --> 01:21:11.650
and learned the impacts
to elders, generators,
01:21:11.650 --> 01:21:14.560
food scarcity, and limited
internet connectivity
01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:16.223
are top of mind challenges.
01:21:17.270 --> 01:21:19.400
In response, to have
support systems in place
01:21:19.400 --> 01:21:21.280
with the Indian Health Councils,
01:21:21.280 --> 01:21:23.420
which have served tribal communities.
01:21:23.420 --> 01:21:26.290
These systems are set
up to provide generators,
01:21:26.290 --> 01:21:29.300
resiliency items,
information, and resources
01:21:29.300 --> 01:21:31.530
in advance of wildfire season
01:21:31.530 --> 01:21:34.863
and support emergency food
distribution for a PSPS event.
01:21:36.700 --> 01:21:39.590
We engage tribal partners
in a variety of ways,
01:21:39.590 --> 01:21:43.550
including education and
outreach, tabletop exercises,
01:21:43.550 --> 01:21:46.950
virtual EOC tours, fire chief training
01:21:46.950 --> 01:21:49.040
and wildfire safety fairs.
01:21:49.040 --> 01:21:51.870
This year, we've had
two wildfire resiliency fairs
01:21:51.870 --> 01:21:54.450
on the reservation,
one of which took place
01:21:54.450 --> 01:21:56.563
on the La Jolla reservation in July.
01:21:57.980 --> 01:22:00.410
We coordinate with tribal
governments year round
01:22:00.410 --> 01:22:02.270
on fire hardening projects,
01:22:02.270 --> 01:22:05.090
including coordination
with all the tribes we serve,
01:22:05.090 --> 01:22:07.900
we serve on our overhead
fire hardening program.
01:22:11.570 --> 01:22:14.220
Last year, we started construction
of underground projects
01:22:14.220 --> 01:22:17.360
on tribal land to ensure
critical tribal facilities
01:22:17.360 --> 01:22:20.530
stayed energized during PSPS events.
01:22:20.530 --> 01:22:22.660
Importantly, we also support tribes
01:22:22.660 --> 01:22:25.260
with exploration and
development of microgrids
01:22:25.260 --> 01:22:27.740
in support of the tribes sovereignty,
01:22:27.740 --> 01:22:31.173
which will be used by tribes
for resiliency during events.
01:22:32.930 --> 01:22:33.763
Next slide.
01:22:38.350 --> 01:22:40.463
So, now I'd like to talk
about some of the things
01:22:40.463 --> 01:22:42.960
that we're doing in terms of our
01:22:42.960 --> 01:22:45.070
access and functional needs customers,
01:22:45.070 --> 01:22:47.800
our customers with access
and functional needs.
01:22:47.800 --> 01:22:50.890
SDG&E has built a
robust assistance model
01:22:51.760 --> 01:22:54.300
to support customers with
access and functional needs
01:22:54.300 --> 01:22:57.591
through enhanced
partnerships with 211 San Diego,
01:22:57.591 --> 01:23:00.810
211 Orange County and
other community partners
01:23:00.810 --> 01:23:02.400
to offer social services needed
01:23:02.400 --> 01:23:05.003
in advance of and during PSPS events.
01:23:05.900 --> 01:23:08.948
Available services
include readiness support,
01:23:08.948 --> 01:23:13.130
accessible transportation,
hotel stays, food support,
01:23:13.130 --> 01:23:17.410
resiliency items, welfare
checks, battery backup programs,
01:23:17.410 --> 01:23:20.140
which can now be
dispatched during PSPS events
01:23:20.140 --> 01:23:21.823
for emergency situations.
01:23:23.170 --> 01:23:24.530
In terms of enrollment.
01:23:24.530 --> 01:23:26.590
In addition to the
broader services available
01:23:26.590 --> 01:23:30.490
to all customers with
AFN, SDG&E also offers
01:23:30.490 --> 01:23:32.780
various programs to
address specific needs,
01:23:32.780 --> 01:23:36.520
including the medical
baseline rate discount program.
01:23:36.520 --> 01:23:38.800
Notably following heavy promotions,
01:23:38.800 --> 01:23:41.780
SDG&E has seen an
increase of more than 20%
01:23:41.780 --> 01:23:45.810
in medical baseline
enrollment over the last June.
01:23:45.810 --> 01:23:50.430
SDG&E currently has approximately
66,000 customers enrolled
01:23:50.430 --> 01:23:52.263
in the medical baseline program.
01:23:53.640 --> 01:23:57.070
In terms of identification
of AFN customers,
01:23:57.070 --> 01:23:59.630
to support broad awareness
of available solutions
01:23:59.630 --> 01:24:02.980
across the access and
functional needs community,
01:24:02.980 --> 01:24:06.130
SDG&E has been very
actively identifying customers
01:24:06.130 --> 01:24:07.880
that fall into this category
01:24:07.880 --> 01:24:10.010
through a three-pronged approach.
01:24:10.010 --> 01:24:12.550
First, we've identified relevant fields
01:24:12.550 --> 01:24:14.150
across our customer databases
01:24:14.150 --> 01:24:16.830
and flagged these customers as AFN.
01:24:16.830 --> 01:24:20.450
We have identified
400,000 unique customers,
01:24:20.450 --> 01:24:24.330
which is about 30% of
our residential population.
01:24:24.330 --> 01:24:26.390
Of these, about 40,000 reside
01:24:26.390 --> 01:24:28.690
in our high fire threat district.
01:24:28.690 --> 01:24:31.920
As part of this effort, we
have also conducted surveys
01:24:31.920 --> 01:24:34.220
specifically to this population
01:24:34.220 --> 01:24:36.140
to gain a better
understanding of the needs
01:24:36.140 --> 01:24:39.543
and we've used this
information to shape our support.
01:24:40.830 --> 01:24:44.470
Number two, we recognize
that not all of our customers
01:24:44.470 --> 01:24:46.040
with access and functional needs
01:24:46.040 --> 01:24:48.240
are interested in sharing
private information
01:24:48.240 --> 01:24:50.350
with their utility company.
01:24:50.350 --> 01:24:53.960
As a result, we have recently
added a new general AFN field
01:24:53.960 --> 01:24:57.840
to our system and established
a process where customers
01:24:57.840 --> 01:25:00.880
can self identify as AFN.
01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:03.670
We have began promoting
this option and have sent
01:25:03.670 --> 01:25:06.900
a mailer to the first wave
of customers this July.
01:25:06.900 --> 01:25:10.060
We plan to send a second
larger direct mail campaign
01:25:10.060 --> 01:25:11.153
in the coming month.
01:25:12.510 --> 01:25:16.590
Number three, we collaborate
heavily with our AFN partners,
01:25:16.590 --> 01:25:19.710
the experts and trusted
advisors for this community,
01:25:19.710 --> 01:25:23.800
to identify and communicate
key PSPS support information,
01:25:23.800 --> 01:25:26.670
including conducting
trainings on PSPS support
01:25:26.670 --> 01:25:30.450
for Statewide groups, like
the in-home support services,
01:25:30.450 --> 01:25:34.110
among many others who care
for customers with disabilities
01:25:34.110 --> 01:25:36.453
and have engaged in
joint marketing efforts.
01:25:37.510 --> 01:25:39.770
SDG&E utilizes this information
01:25:39.770 --> 01:25:43.310
to target PSPS communications
and promote solutions,
01:25:43.310 --> 01:25:45.270
such as our generator grant program
01:25:45.270 --> 01:25:47.403
that John talked
about in earlier slides.
01:25:48.490 --> 01:25:51.320
Some of this will be repeat,
but I just want to focus
01:25:51.320 --> 01:25:52.550
on a couple of things
01:25:52.550 --> 01:25:55.010
in terms of the generator grant program.
01:25:55.010 --> 01:25:57.670
As John mentioned, we've
increased the number of units
01:25:57.670 --> 01:26:00.880
to at least 2000 for 2021.
01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:03.580
All medical baseline
customers in the HFTD
01:26:03.580 --> 01:26:06.680
that have experienced a
PSPS event, as John mentioned,
01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:10.210
will be offered a
generator again in 2021.
01:26:10.210 --> 01:26:12.440
Additionally, we have
expanded the eligibility
01:26:12.440 --> 01:26:14.150
of this program to customers
01:26:14.150 --> 01:26:17.200
who have self-identified
as having a disability.
01:26:17.200 --> 01:26:19.870
We've also set aside 40 dedicated units
01:26:19.870 --> 01:26:22.080
for tribal communities.
01:26:22.080 --> 01:26:24.020
Invitations started going out in July,
01:26:24.020 --> 01:26:27.080
to date more than 60
units have been delivered
01:26:27.080 --> 01:26:29.870
and more than a hundred
deliveries are scheduled.
01:26:29.870 --> 01:26:31.670
All invitations are scheduled to go out
01:26:31.670 --> 01:26:34.650
by the end of August, 2021.
01:26:34.650 --> 01:26:36.950
We are expanding the
emergency generator program
01:26:36.950 --> 01:26:39.390
that we launched in December 2020.
01:26:39.390 --> 01:26:41.320
This will enable us to provide nearly
01:26:41.320 --> 01:26:43.610
real-time rechargeable
units to customers
01:26:43.610 --> 01:26:45.750
in critical medical situations
01:26:45.750 --> 01:26:48.930
whose needs cannot be met
with hotel and transportation,
01:26:48.930 --> 01:26:52.143
or other services that we
offer during a PSPS event.
01:26:54.080 --> 01:26:57.080
John talked a little bit about
the generator rebate program,
01:26:57.080 --> 01:26:59.350
so I won't go into
greater detail on that
01:26:59.350 --> 01:27:01.283
unless there are further questions.
01:27:03.250 --> 01:27:05.370
And I'd like to go to my last slide,
01:27:05.370 --> 01:27:07.863
the next slide, on the
public safety partnership.
01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:14.470
So in terms of our partnership,
01:27:14.470 --> 01:27:18.250
SDG&E solicits feedback
from our public safety partners
01:27:18.250 --> 01:27:20.550
following each PSPS event.
01:27:20.550 --> 01:27:23.850
Questions include,
please evaluate SDG&E's
01:27:23.850 --> 01:27:25.970
level of engagement
with your organization
01:27:25.970 --> 01:27:29.770
before and during the
most recent PSPS event.
01:27:29.770 --> 01:27:33.490
Customers can choose
great, good, fair, or poor,
01:27:33.490 --> 01:27:36.950
or not applicable, including
a comment section.
01:27:36.950 --> 01:27:38.190
We also ask a question,
01:27:38.190 --> 01:27:39.960
is there anything that SDG&E can do
01:27:39.960 --> 01:27:42.000
to improve your experience?
01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:43.850
We're happy to say that 88%
01:27:43.850 --> 01:27:46.140
of the public safety partners surveyed,
01:27:46.140 --> 01:27:48.040
following 2020 responses,
01:27:48.040 --> 01:27:51.440
rated SDG&E as either good or great.
01:27:51.440 --> 01:27:55.970
However, 2% of our
responders rated SDG&E poor.
01:27:55.970 --> 01:27:57.240
Comments for poor rating
01:27:57.240 --> 01:28:00.180
were due to notification
for restorations
01:28:00.180 --> 01:28:03.340
were received after the
power had been restored.
01:28:03.340 --> 01:28:06.980
We heard that and we are in the progress
01:28:06.980 --> 01:28:08.730
of making steps to change.
01:28:08.730 --> 01:28:12.180
So we've increased the
capacity of our autodialer
01:28:12.180 --> 01:28:14.010
to more quickly complete delivery
01:28:14.010 --> 01:28:17.010
of outbound customer notifications.
01:28:17.010 --> 01:28:19.576
As a company we've
worked really hard to listen
01:28:19.576 --> 01:28:21.630
and to improve the customer experience
01:28:21.630 --> 01:28:23.750
from a notification perspective.
01:28:23.750 --> 01:28:26.660
We also recognize that
there is room for improvement.
01:28:26.660 --> 01:28:28.540
So we'll continue to ask the questions,
01:28:28.540 --> 01:28:32.130
listen to our customers
and strive to get better.
01:28:32.130 --> 01:28:35.180
With that, I will open
it up for any questions
01:28:35.180 --> 01:28:36.343
that you all may have.
01:28:40.560 --> 01:28:44.763
Please everybody,
just go ahead and speak up.
01:28:45.739 --> 01:28:47.143
I don't see everybody.
01:28:48.630 --> 01:28:52.750
I just have a question about
some of the water providers.
01:28:52.750 --> 01:28:54.670
I think in some of the early PSPS,
01:28:54.670 --> 01:28:57.110
some of the rural and tribal communities
01:28:57.110 --> 01:29:00.210
that were using electric
pumps had some difficulty
01:29:00.210 --> 01:29:02.370
being able to access their water systems
01:29:02.370 --> 01:29:04.610
and what you've been doing to coordinate
01:29:04.610 --> 01:29:08.007
with water service providers
during PSPS events.
01:29:09.260 --> 01:29:12.753
Right, so in terms of
some of the customers,
01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:16.750
we've heard about customers
that have had water wells
01:29:16.750 --> 01:29:19.680
and had difficulty
accessing water in the past,
01:29:19.680 --> 01:29:23.610
so we not only have
water trucks at our CRCs
01:29:23.610 --> 01:29:26.760
during an event, but
we also offer customers
01:29:26.760 --> 01:29:31.010
that are using systems
like a water well,
01:29:31.010 --> 01:29:35.090
we offer them generators
and we also offer them
01:29:37.970 --> 01:29:40.640
eligibility for our generator
assistance programs.
01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:43.180
So not only generators do we offer
01:29:43.180 --> 01:29:46.410
but we also offer them
rebates for generators as well.
01:29:46.410 --> 01:29:49.410
So we've been trying to close that gap
01:29:49.410 --> 01:29:52.073
in terms of customers,
and most of the customers
01:29:52.073 --> 01:29:54.160
that we've heard have that problem,
01:29:54.160 --> 01:29:56.053
were customers that had water wells.
01:29:58.870 --> 01:29:59.950
Thank you.
01:29:59.950 --> 01:30:03.160
Have you continued keeping
a list of those customers?
01:30:03.160 --> 01:30:06.373
How do you catalog them?
01:30:07.710 --> 01:30:10.460
Yes, we continue to
keep a list of our customers
01:30:10.460 --> 01:30:12.830
that have special equipment like that
01:30:12.830 --> 01:30:16.290
in addition to our regular promotion of
01:30:17.960 --> 01:30:19.160
what to do during events.
01:30:19.160 --> 01:30:23.660
So we promote through social media,
01:30:23.660 --> 01:30:27.380
through flyers, through our PSPS app,
01:30:27.380 --> 01:30:29.800
whichever way we can
communicate with the customers,
01:30:29.800 --> 01:30:32.300
we're continuing that promotion effort
01:30:32.300 --> 01:30:33.930
to get the word out to contact us,
01:30:33.930 --> 01:30:35.270
so the more information we have
01:30:35.270 --> 01:30:37.003
the better we can provide support.
01:30:38.370 --> 01:30:41.470
Okay. I have a quick
question on your CRC.
01:30:41.470 --> 01:30:44.240
I know you said you added one this year,
01:30:44.240 --> 01:30:46.360
just a couple quickly.
01:30:46.360 --> 01:30:48.150
Were you asked to add that one
01:30:48.150 --> 01:30:49.970
or did you all make
that assessment yourself
01:30:49.970 --> 01:30:53.210
or was that a coordination
with local authorities
01:30:53.210 --> 01:30:55.210
that you decided you really needed that?
01:30:56.890 --> 01:30:59.385
I'm gonna answer but
I'm also going to open it up
01:30:59.385 --> 01:31:01.430
to one of my colleagues.
01:31:01.430 --> 01:31:05.170
I believe that we always
are striving for improvement
01:31:05.170 --> 01:31:08.410
so when we see that there's
impacted areas that we're seeing
01:31:08.410 --> 01:31:11.380
based on the historical
data that we have,
01:31:11.380 --> 01:31:13.960
we move and we make modifications.
01:31:13.960 --> 01:31:16.410
In this case, I think
Fallbrook's one of those areas
01:31:16.410 --> 01:31:19.490
that we saw had a need and
so we made an adjustment
01:31:19.490 --> 01:31:21.770
to have a CRC there,
01:31:21.770 --> 01:31:25.110
but I'll open it up to Alex or Danielle
01:31:25.110 --> 01:31:26.900
if there's anything that I'm missing
01:31:26.900 --> 01:31:28.423
in terms of coordination.
01:31:33.210 --> 01:31:35.333
Okay, their silences. That was it.
01:31:36.430 --> 01:31:41.267
Were there any public
authorities or organizations
01:31:42.570 --> 01:31:47.297
who had asked for more
CRCs, who you all said,
01:31:47.297 --> 01:31:49.151
eh, don't think so.
01:31:49.151 --> 01:31:50.730
Are there any that you were requested
01:31:50.730 --> 01:31:53.940
to put together and didn't?
01:31:53.940 --> 01:31:56.910
Commissioner Batjer,
not to my knowledge.
01:31:56.910 --> 01:31:58.240
I'll follow up with the team
01:31:58.240 --> 01:32:00.640
and circle back you if I've misspoken,
01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:02.520
but I think everything that we've done
01:32:02.520 --> 01:32:05.510
is based on what we have identified
01:32:05.510 --> 01:32:08.073
as opportunities within
our service territory.
01:32:09.350 --> 01:32:13.180
Okay. Thank you.
You're welcome.
01:32:13.180 --> 01:32:17.380
Yes, Commissioner Guzman
and then Commissioner Shiroma.
01:32:17.380 --> 01:32:18.653
Guzman Aceves, excuse me.
01:32:19.520 --> 01:32:24.460
Thank you Tashonda,
and I think it's very notable
01:32:24.460 --> 01:32:26.730
to see the progress that
you guys have made with,
01:32:26.730 --> 01:32:29.790
in particular, the last
conversation we had around
01:32:30.860 --> 01:32:32.560
tribal nations in your territory.
01:32:32.560 --> 01:32:33.980
So I wanted to acknowledge that,
01:32:33.980 --> 01:32:37.393
seems to have made a
lot of follow through there.
01:32:38.670 --> 01:32:42.563
I had a clarification on
your customer notification,
01:32:43.430 --> 01:32:48.430
does someone need to
have the app to get a text?
01:32:52.399 --> 01:32:55.430
So we communicate to customers
01:32:55.430 --> 01:32:57.860
also through our ENS system.
01:32:57.860 --> 01:33:01.000
So whatever primary
number we have on file,
01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:04.160
we will send ENS messages
out to our customers,
01:33:04.160 --> 01:33:06.733
but if they find us through
the PSPS mobile app,
01:33:06.733 --> 01:33:09.330
then they will also get
notifications that way,
01:33:09.330 --> 01:33:12.030
but that's not the only way,
that's one of the methods
01:33:12.030 --> 01:33:13.923
that they can receive a notification.
01:33:15.240 --> 01:33:20.240
Okay, is that E-M-S?
It an N, as in Nancy.
01:33:22.890 --> 01:33:24.993
Okay ENS so that's,
01:33:27.738 --> 01:33:31.870
is that a voice message
or you texting that also?
01:33:31.870 --> 01:33:35.040
It's an outbound dialer,
but the outbound dialer
01:33:35.040 --> 01:33:38.060
provides phone call, email and text.
01:33:38.060 --> 01:33:39.300
Okay, excellent.
01:33:39.300 --> 01:33:42.140
So if you have all three
of those contact info,
01:33:42.140 --> 01:33:43.440
they're getting all three?
01:33:44.540 --> 01:33:46.880
Or do they have a preferred?
01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:48.950
Yeah, so one thing
that we've learned,
01:33:48.950 --> 01:33:51.230
and this is really an
area of opportunity,
01:33:51.230 --> 01:33:54.470
we could have multiple
phone numbers for a customer
01:33:54.470 --> 01:33:57.940
and we can send communications
out to every single number,
01:33:57.940 --> 01:33:59.500
but when time is of the essence,
01:33:59.500 --> 01:34:01.680
we usually pick the primary number
01:34:01.680 --> 01:34:04.790
and the primary form of communication
01:34:04.790 --> 01:34:07.500
that that customer has
asked us to communicate with.
01:34:07.500 --> 01:34:10.603
So that helps us get the
notifications out faster.
01:34:12.228 --> 01:34:14.228
But we have the ability to do all three.
01:34:16.420 --> 01:34:19.000
I see, but they're
only receiving one form,
01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:22.530
so when I signed up for service
01:34:22.530 --> 01:34:25.820
and I said my preferred is voice,
01:34:25.820 --> 01:34:27.913
I'm going to get a voice message.
01:34:28.790 --> 01:34:32.350
Correct? Correct.
Okay.
01:34:32.350 --> 01:34:34.790
Okay, you know it's
an interesting thought
01:34:34.790 --> 01:34:38.150
and it's just something from
our other side of the world
01:34:38.150 --> 01:34:40.040
here on the telecommunication side,
01:34:40.040 --> 01:34:41.360
what we've seen is...
01:34:43.430 --> 01:34:46.800
I wonder if there's just
maybe a dual or a default
01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:51.800
to have, at minimum,
the text notification.
01:34:52.820 --> 01:34:56.650
I don't know, I know my kids' school,
01:34:56.650 --> 01:34:58.900
they send a voicemail
and they send me a text
01:35:00.830 --> 01:35:03.020
and an email, they
send all three actually.
01:35:03.020 --> 01:35:07.730
So, but it is important to know
01:35:07.730 --> 01:35:09.800
the customer's preferred
form of communication,
01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:12.460
particularly for disability purposes.
01:35:12.460 --> 01:35:15.940
But there has been some recent data
01:35:15.940 --> 01:35:20.340
showing that text communication
01:35:20.340 --> 01:35:24.710
is the kind of choice number one.
01:35:24.710 --> 01:35:26.360
I don't know if you've seen that.
01:35:27.200 --> 01:35:29.643
I haven't seen
that but I think that,
01:35:30.750 --> 01:35:34.610
you know, we walk a fine line
'cause we want to make sure
01:35:34.610 --> 01:35:37.250
that we get to them the
quickest way possible
01:35:37.250 --> 01:35:40.590
and we also want to make sure
that we don't over communicate
01:35:40.590 --> 01:35:43.300
and bog them down during an event.
01:35:43.300 --> 01:35:45.040
So I hear you loud and clear
01:35:45.040 --> 01:35:46.600
and I think this is one of the areas
01:35:46.600 --> 01:35:48.550
where we will continuously investigate
01:35:48.550 --> 01:35:51.020
and poll our customers
to see the best way
01:35:51.020 --> 01:35:52.720
that we can communicate with them.
01:35:54.240 --> 01:35:56.810
And on your language,
is that also something
01:35:56.810 --> 01:35:59.380
that was self-selected by the customer?
01:35:59.380 --> 01:36:03.120
Are you defaulting to bilingual
01:36:03.120 --> 01:36:05.633
or are you just doing English for now?
01:36:06.990 --> 01:36:10.110
We have bilingual and
the customer has the option
01:36:10.110 --> 01:36:12.973
to pick the language,
their preferred language.
01:36:14.809 --> 01:36:16.083
I'll find out-
01:36:17.920 --> 01:36:20.610
I'll get an answer if
it defaults to English,
01:36:20.610 --> 01:36:24.670
that I'm not completely sure
if they have to deselect that,
01:36:24.670 --> 01:36:27.093
but I'll find out for you
and get clarification.
01:36:27.950 --> 01:36:29.890
And from what I understand,
01:36:29.890 --> 01:36:32.423
you have 21 prevalent languages.
01:36:33.470 --> 01:36:35.630
We do.
So the customer can select,
01:36:35.630 --> 01:36:37.963
okay, they can select among the 21.
01:36:39.190 --> 01:36:43.490
Yes, and we also work
with our community based
01:36:43.490 --> 01:36:46.370
organizations who
have access to over 200.
01:36:46.370 --> 01:36:50.820
So we're trying our best
to get communication
01:36:50.820 --> 01:36:53.020
to the customer in
their preferred language.
01:36:54.540 --> 01:36:56.690
And final question
around this is,
01:36:56.690 --> 01:36:59.490
how does the customer select that?
01:36:59.490 --> 01:37:01.033
When does that occur?
01:37:03.030 --> 01:37:07.073
In terms of how does
the mobile app work?
01:37:08.370 --> 01:37:11.100
Right, let's say I'm a
customer in Sunny Seasons,
01:37:11.100 --> 01:37:16.093
and I've been an SDG&E
customer for 30 years,
01:37:18.570 --> 01:37:22.680
how do I now, I guess you're
not very high fire risk there,
01:37:22.680 --> 01:37:25.260
maybe somewhere up, a little higher up,
01:37:25.260 --> 01:37:26.893
but you know, where do they,
01:37:28.610 --> 01:37:30.910
how do they know to do that selection
01:37:30.910 --> 01:37:33.773
or do you kind of do
some outreach to them?
01:37:36.723 --> 01:37:37.960
Yes, we do outreach to them
01:37:37.960 --> 01:37:40.950
and they provide their
preferred language to us.
01:37:40.950 --> 01:37:44.743
So that is through some of
our outreach efforts as well.
01:37:46.661 --> 01:37:47.494
Okay.
01:37:47.494 --> 01:37:50.120
We reach out to our
customers throughout the year
01:37:50.120 --> 01:37:53.850
and promote our programs and
when promoting the programs,
01:37:53.850 --> 01:37:56.280
then talking to them to
sign up for various programs,
01:37:56.280 --> 01:37:58.853
we ask them what their
preferred language is.
01:38:00.100 --> 01:38:02.660
I see. Okay, thank you.
01:38:02.660 --> 01:38:04.610
Commissioner Shiroma?
01:38:04.610 --> 01:38:06.680
Yes, thank you.
01:38:06.680 --> 01:38:09.967
My question is partially
answered by your slide 7
01:38:10.822 --> 01:38:14.949
and the appendix about
radio PSAs for folks
01:38:14.949 --> 01:38:18.760
who are internet savvy
or app savvy or tech savvy,
01:38:18.760 --> 01:38:23.760
or what have you, but
what about television.
01:38:23.931 --> 01:38:27.630
For example, my dad,
for quite some time,
01:38:27.630 --> 01:38:28.690
his main source of information
01:38:28.690 --> 01:38:31.493
has been from television news.
01:38:35.425 --> 01:38:37.823
Do you have a television effort,
01:38:41.294 --> 01:38:45.360
which I know is expensive,
but PSA or the newscasters
01:38:45.360 --> 01:38:47.073
if you have journalist outreach.
01:38:48.360 --> 01:38:50.123
Yes. Thank you
for that question.
01:38:50.123 --> 01:38:53.023
It's an excellent question
because I think the assumption
01:38:53.023 --> 01:38:55.040
is that a lot of our customers,
01:38:55.040 --> 01:38:57.605
you know, we're in the
digital age and the fact is
01:38:57.605 --> 01:38:59.790
that we have a lot of
customers that are not.
01:38:59.790 --> 01:39:03.420
So, we utilize radio broadcast media,
01:39:03.420 --> 01:39:06.820
we currently have
commercials going on right now.
01:39:06.820 --> 01:39:11.420
So our customers get
information about PSPS,
01:39:11.420 --> 01:39:14.184
how to sign up for different programs.
01:39:14.184 --> 01:39:18.683
So, we do communicate through
broadcast media and radio.
01:39:21.870 --> 01:39:22.703
Thank you.
01:39:22.703 --> 01:39:27.703
We also have road
signs, flyers, marquees,
01:39:27.963 --> 01:39:32.390
signage on buses, wherever
we think we can reach
01:39:33.360 --> 01:39:35.523
more of our population,
mobile home parks,
01:39:36.500 --> 01:39:39.053
we continue to promote that way as well.
01:39:41.830 --> 01:39:44.790
And this is a question
for Mr. Jenkins,
01:39:44.790 --> 01:39:49.300
on slide 23, covered conductors,
01:39:49.300 --> 01:39:53.603
it says the probability
with (audio glitch) is 20%,
01:39:53.603 --> 01:39:56.210
does that mean that there's a notion
01:39:56.210 --> 01:39:59.960
that the current
conductor is 80% effective
01:39:59.960 --> 01:40:02.657
in preventing wildfires,
01:40:06.280 --> 01:40:08.890
or is that the way to look at that one?
01:40:08.890 --> 01:40:11.463
On slide 23, in your appendix.
01:40:12.400 --> 01:40:14.640
Yes. That is correct.
01:40:14.640 --> 01:40:17.163
We're saying it's 80%
effective at reducing the risk.
01:40:17.163 --> 01:40:20.590
I mean, it's still energized
equipment in the air,
01:40:20.590 --> 01:40:23.050
so there are things
that that can happen,
01:40:23.050 --> 01:40:25.470
but it greatly reduces the risk.
01:40:27.239 --> 01:40:28.139
Okay. Thank you.
01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:37.620
I have another question, I
don't see another hand up,
01:40:37.620 --> 01:40:40.570
again, you've got to speak up
'cause I can't see everybody.
01:40:41.741 --> 01:40:43.791
And I think this goes
to Mr. Jenkins, but
01:40:45.870 --> 01:40:49.623
in terms of your notifications,
01:40:52.799 --> 01:40:57.220
have you actually done
a exercise, not a tabletop,
01:40:57.220 --> 01:41:02.220
but an actual exercise, to
test a full-scale exercise,
01:41:05.360 --> 01:41:08.550
really, to test all of the systems.
01:41:08.550 --> 01:41:11.090
I mean, I'm going back to the slide
01:41:11.090 --> 01:41:13.570
that had all of the detail on it.
01:41:13.570 --> 01:41:17.977
Have you actually run through
with all of those involved,
01:41:17.977 --> 01:41:19.830
the actual exercise?
01:41:19.830 --> 01:41:21.660
I think you've done some tabletops
01:41:21.660 --> 01:41:26.660
but I don't recall being
notified of a actual exercise.
01:41:28.890 --> 01:41:33.890
Yeah, we have conducted
two PSPS exercises thus far.
01:41:34.040 --> 01:41:37.900
We have a third scheduled
for this month of August.
01:41:37.900 --> 01:41:41.460
The first one included
external stakeholders
01:41:41.460 --> 01:41:42.860
that we interact with.
01:41:42.860 --> 01:41:46.740
So, Cal OES and County OES,
01:41:48.760 --> 01:41:51.210
and various other stakeholders
01:41:51.210 --> 01:41:52.717
that are involved in the process,
01:41:52.717 --> 01:41:55.823
and so we do conduct exercises on PSPS.
01:41:57.220 --> 01:41:59.250
There were obviously
learnings on that,
01:41:59.250 --> 01:42:00.520
that you're incorporating in
01:42:00.520 --> 01:42:05.520
and implementing prior to
middle of August, end of August?
01:42:06.340 --> 01:42:09.770
Yeah, every event
and every exercise,
01:42:09.770 --> 01:42:12.080
we do a detailed after
action review process
01:42:12.080 --> 01:42:14.830
to identify lessons learned
and create action items
01:42:14.830 --> 01:42:16.303
to address those things.
01:42:19.071 --> 01:42:21.021
Okay.
A follow up question to that
01:42:21.940 --> 01:42:23.560
can you be a little bit more explicit
01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:26.110
in what some of those
lessons learned were
01:42:26.110 --> 01:42:29.690
in this year's exercises
that you're then planning on
01:42:29.690 --> 01:42:32.940
trying to implement
prior to say September 1,
01:42:32.940 --> 01:42:37.940
and then also in the stakeholders
that you guys tested with,
01:42:39.590 --> 01:42:42.450
can you confirm whether
telecommunications companies
01:42:42.450 --> 01:42:47.450
were there and any customer
tests actual to consumers?
01:42:50.970 --> 01:42:54.050
I'm going to have to ask one
of my colleagues on the line
01:42:54.050 --> 01:42:57.080
if they have some
examples of lessons learned,
01:42:57.080 --> 01:43:00.770
as well as if we've invited
communication companies
01:43:00.770 --> 01:43:04.653
to the exercise, were those
your questions, Caroline?
01:43:05.660 --> 01:43:07.080
Correct. Thank you.
01:43:07.080 --> 01:43:09.873
And consumers, if they
got any test notifications.
01:43:11.180 --> 01:43:13.710
I'm pretty sure consumers
did not get test notifications,
01:43:13.710 --> 01:43:15.580
I'm pretty sure that didn't happen,
01:43:15.580 --> 01:43:18.710
but maybe Jonathan
Woldemariam, I believe you're on,
01:43:18.710 --> 01:43:22.023
do you have any information
related to those two questions?
01:43:24.389 --> 01:43:27.139
(computer tones)
01:43:30.388 --> 01:43:32.050
Sorry, I was
trying to unmute,
01:43:32.050 --> 01:43:33.080
took me a little bit.
01:43:33.080 --> 01:43:34.993
Yeah, communication providers,
01:43:36.250 --> 01:43:41.250
we have them participate
in our after action reviews
01:43:42.820 --> 01:43:45.630
and so they participate in that
01:43:45.630 --> 01:43:48.473
and then the messaging that we have
01:43:48.473 --> 01:43:53.130
with the campaign to
ask them for any feedback.
01:43:53.130 --> 01:43:55.210
So we have them participate in that,
01:43:55.210 --> 01:43:59.607
but not in the PSPS
exercises that we have.
01:44:03.057 --> 01:44:04.610
And I'm getting some messages
01:44:04.610 --> 01:44:07.120
from our emergency management manager.
01:44:07.120 --> 01:44:08.570
She said a couple of the examples were,
01:44:08.570 --> 01:44:11.950
more clear messaging for
our public safety partners
01:44:11.950 --> 01:44:14.370
as part of the last event,
01:44:14.370 --> 01:44:16.840
and then messages that they
can actually just cut and paste
01:44:16.840 --> 01:44:18.180
to their social media.
01:44:18.180 --> 01:44:21.143
That was one of the
lessons learned, or a couple.
01:44:24.500 --> 01:44:26.620
Think flyers
were as well, right?
01:44:26.620 --> 01:44:29.340
Some of the messaging
we're doing on billboards,
01:44:29.340 --> 01:44:32.100
road signs, while it seems
really good canvas of feedback,
01:44:32.100 --> 01:44:33.810
previous events.
01:44:33.810 --> 01:44:35.310
Yeah, you're correct, Kevin.
01:44:38.010 --> 01:44:39.643
I know one of the issues
with Telecom last year,
01:44:39.643 --> 01:44:43.081
at least, had been the
consolidation of messaging
01:44:43.081 --> 01:44:45.030
because they were sort of
getting over communicated
01:44:45.030 --> 01:44:47.413
'cause it was going to
different stakeholders.
01:44:48.684 --> 01:44:51.490
Is that something that's
specifically with San Diego
01:44:51.490 --> 01:44:54.803
and your key com providers,
has that issue been addressed?
01:44:58.420 --> 01:45:01.570
I know, and I'll
take this one, John.
01:45:01.570 --> 01:45:06.570
We've done a really full
effort to work with them
01:45:07.220 --> 01:45:12.220
to get the right communication,
the primary contact
01:45:12.620 --> 01:45:15.020
of their communication
companies on file.
01:45:15.020 --> 01:45:18.493
So then account executives,
they work in my organization,
01:45:18.493 --> 01:45:20.504
each of the six telecom companies
01:45:20.504 --> 01:45:23.910
has a account executive
that they work directly with,
01:45:23.910 --> 01:45:28.230
so we can get an update to
see if things are going better
01:45:28.230 --> 01:45:31.000
from their perspective, but
we've done a really good job,
01:45:31.000 --> 01:45:34.020
in our point of view, to
communicate with them,
01:45:34.020 --> 01:45:36.380
have regular meetings with
them, make sure we have
01:45:36.380 --> 01:45:39.290
updated information
for their contacts on file
01:45:39.290 --> 01:45:42.410
and that they're aware of our plans
01:45:42.410 --> 01:45:44.680
for the upcoming fire season
01:45:44.680 --> 01:45:46.960
and they're part of
the preparedness plan.
01:45:46.960 --> 01:45:50.303
So, we feel like we've
done a better job in that area.
01:45:58.280 --> 01:46:00.450
Well we tend to hear
from them if you haven't,
01:46:00.450 --> 01:46:03.800
so we'll let you know.
(laughing)
01:46:03.800 --> 01:46:06.713
I'm sure you will.
Keep us accountable.
01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:12.210
And Tashonda, I
didn't mean to cut you off.
01:46:12.210 --> 01:46:13.277
I think you were on your last slide
01:46:13.277 --> 01:46:16.640
and we kind of stopped
or we hopped around
01:46:16.640 --> 01:46:18.740
asking other questions,
were you completed
01:46:18.740 --> 01:46:20.713
with your part of the presentation?
01:46:21.640 --> 01:46:24.580
I was, I was just going to
turn it over to Kevin Geraghty
01:46:24.580 --> 01:46:27.273
to close us out.
Okay.
01:46:28.840 --> 01:46:31.210
One thing that I
would mention about
01:46:31.210 --> 01:46:33.720
our relationships with
telecom companies,
01:46:33.720 --> 01:46:36.830
I think that's one thing
that people learning
01:46:36.830 --> 01:46:38.420
and working from home during COVID
01:46:38.420 --> 01:46:41.530
really dramatically
increased the engagement
01:46:41.530 --> 01:46:45.280
between utilities and the
telecommunications companies.
01:46:45.280 --> 01:46:48.120
Very quickly, we reached
some common understandings
01:46:48.120 --> 01:46:50.880
and jointly supported
each other on projects
01:46:50.880 --> 01:46:52.730
and increasing bandwidth, et cetera.
01:46:52.730 --> 01:46:55.140
I wasn't long with the company last year
01:46:55.140 --> 01:46:57.490
when I found myself
in a couple of meetings
01:46:57.490 --> 01:46:59.850
looking for us to prioritize some work
01:46:59.850 --> 01:47:02.920
to actually improve the
work from home experience,
01:47:02.920 --> 01:47:05.800
and I found that to continue.
01:47:05.800 --> 01:47:07.560
I would only, I know we're way over
01:47:07.560 --> 01:47:09.990
and I would just
hope that, first of all,
01:47:09.990 --> 01:47:12.120
I appreciate the time this afternoon,
01:47:12.120 --> 01:47:13.610
but I hope what we took away
01:47:13.610 --> 01:47:18.120
is that SDG&E has continued
to improve and advance.
01:47:18.120 --> 01:47:20.033
We have done, when I think
about just year over year,
01:47:20.033 --> 01:47:23.483
we were doing more underground,
more covered conductor,
01:47:24.450 --> 01:47:26.770
better and more customer communications,
01:47:26.770 --> 01:47:29.590
we are offering more
conveniences year over year
01:47:29.590 --> 01:47:31.850
when I think about our or CRCs,
01:47:31.850 --> 01:47:34.130
and some of those are direct feedback
01:47:34.130 --> 01:47:35.850
that happened from within events.
01:47:35.850 --> 01:47:38.880
We're obviously doing more
inspections, more training,
01:47:38.880 --> 01:47:41.070
more batteries, and more technology.
01:47:41.070 --> 01:47:43.280
So, I started in the
beginning as saying,
01:47:43.280 --> 01:47:45.070
what drives us is each and every year,
01:47:45.070 --> 01:47:45.903
we're going to do more.
01:47:45.903 --> 01:47:47.710
We're going to find one way to just
01:47:47.710 --> 01:47:50.170
make it a better experience
for one more customer
01:47:50.170 --> 01:47:52.310
and I think back over the past year
01:47:52.310 --> 01:47:54.794
that we've demonstrated that
01:47:54.794 --> 01:47:56.043
and we're going to continue to do more
01:47:56.043 --> 01:47:57.940
through this season as well.
01:47:57.940 --> 01:48:00.250
And just thank you
again for the opportunity
01:48:00.250 --> 01:48:03.683
to present on behalf of
our colleagues here today.
01:48:04.810 --> 01:48:06.950
Well thank you,
Mr. Geraghty, and I apologize
01:48:06.950 --> 01:48:10.073
for the mispronunciation of
your name when we started,
01:48:11.060 --> 01:48:15.053
but then a last name like
Batjer, spelled with a J,
01:48:16.430 --> 01:48:18.820
not that gives me a
right to mispronounce
01:48:18.820 --> 01:48:22.760
anybody else's name,
but I apologize for that.
01:48:22.760 --> 01:48:26.240
It was your first presentation
before us, as you noted.
01:48:26.240 --> 01:48:30.981
Are there any other questions
of any of the members
01:48:30.981 --> 01:48:32.950
of the company at this point in time?
01:48:32.950 --> 01:48:34.950
Any follow up questions that anyone has?
01:48:34.950 --> 01:48:37.100
Again, speak up
'cause I can't see you all.
01:48:38.360 --> 01:48:40.900
President Batjer, is
Daniel from Cal FIRE.
01:48:40.900 --> 01:48:42.103
Absolutely Chief.
01:48:43.060 --> 01:48:45.080
Real quick question and
actually this kind of dovetails
01:48:45.080 --> 01:48:46.900
on the comment we
just made about the fact
01:48:46.900 --> 01:48:48.830
that you're doing more inspections,
01:48:48.830 --> 01:48:51.880
but I just want to note, on slide six,
01:48:51.880 --> 01:48:54.930
you have some statistics related
01:48:54.930 --> 01:48:56.420
to the inspections that you're doing,
01:48:56.420 --> 01:48:59.980
both on distribution
and transmission lines.
01:48:59.980 --> 01:49:02.300
And the question that I have is,
01:49:02.300 --> 01:49:04.930
the slide specifically
says that you're on target,
01:49:04.930 --> 01:49:07.620
and I was curious what
the on target date is.
01:49:07.620 --> 01:49:09.770
Obviously here we are in August,
01:49:09.770 --> 01:49:13.000
so we're well over halfway
through the calendar year,
01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:15.260
and by my math, those
numbers only add up
01:49:15.260 --> 01:49:17.660
to about 6% of what
you're trying to get done,
01:49:17.660 --> 01:49:21.330
and so, is your target
to get that number done
01:49:21.330 --> 01:49:22.990
by the end of the calendar year,
01:49:22.990 --> 01:49:25.450
before the Santa Ana season?
01:49:25.450 --> 01:49:27.730
Because obviously, even you noted,
01:49:27.730 --> 01:49:28.910
you're already in a heat wave
01:49:28.910 --> 01:49:30.850
and there's already fire conditions
01:49:30.850 --> 01:49:31.740
that are extreme down there.
01:49:31.740 --> 01:49:34.640
So just curious what on target
means for your inspections?
01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:37.510
Yeah, for those particular ones,
01:49:37.510 --> 01:49:38.950
those are by the end of the year,
01:49:38.950 --> 01:49:41.320
and so we have all kinds of inspections,
01:49:41.320 --> 01:49:43.780
we do infrared inspections,
we do visual inspections,
01:49:43.780 --> 01:49:48.480
we do aerial patrols and we
do patrol even prior to event
01:49:48.480 --> 01:49:51.150
in specific areas where we're expecting
01:49:51.150 --> 01:49:54.670
the weather to show up, but
these are the drone inspections
01:49:54.670 --> 01:49:58.150
where we're getting high
definition digital photographs
01:49:58.150 --> 01:49:59.950
of all different angles of the pole,
01:49:59.950 --> 01:50:01.633
specifically from the top view.
01:50:02.540 --> 01:50:05.997
We have 40 to 50 drone
crews out right now.
01:50:05.997 --> 01:50:08.597
The information on this
slide is a little stale too,
01:50:10.289 --> 01:50:15.289
and they do 20 a day each,
so we get quite a bit done.
01:50:16.660 --> 01:50:20.470
I'd appreciate if you could
provide us updated numbers,
01:50:20.470 --> 01:50:21.920
even if it's a bit old.
01:50:21.920 --> 01:50:25.430
Again, no disrespect, but 6% in August
01:50:25.430 --> 01:50:30.430
just seems woefully below
your own targeted goal
01:50:30.920 --> 01:50:32.910
and so, we would be interested to see
01:50:32.910 --> 01:50:35.078
maybe the differences between
when the slide was made
01:50:35.078 --> 01:50:37.120
with where you are today.
01:50:37.120 --> 01:50:40.128
Okay, I'd be glad to follow
up with additional information
01:50:40.128 --> 01:50:42.189
and when we expect to be complete.
01:50:42.189 --> 01:50:43.116
Okay, thank you.
01:50:43.116 --> 01:50:46.090
And would you please make
sure that the CPUC and OES
01:50:46.090 --> 01:50:51.090
and OEIS also receives
those Mr. Jenkins.
01:50:53.070 --> 01:50:54.037
Will do.
01:50:54.037 --> 01:50:56.596
'Cause I was concerned
about the same thing
01:50:56.596 --> 01:50:59.750
and I'm also concerned
on that same slide
01:50:59.750 --> 01:51:04.100
that only 40% of your
vegetation management goals
01:51:05.989 --> 01:51:10.530
have been completed, only
35% were completed since 2019,
01:51:10.530 --> 01:51:12.530
if I'm reading that correctly.
01:51:12.530 --> 01:51:15.543
So again, similar to
the chief's question,
01:51:16.490 --> 01:51:19.030
what is your timeline
to complete by 2021
01:51:19.030 --> 01:51:22.760
because the fire season is
bearing down heavily on us
01:51:22.760 --> 01:51:26.080
and I think, chief, I
think the other issue
01:51:26.080 --> 01:51:29.070
that you all have is folks out there
01:51:29.070 --> 01:51:32.700
in high fire danger
areas with equipment,
01:51:32.700 --> 01:51:37.700
making veg management kinds
of decisions and implementing
01:51:40.240 --> 01:51:44.520
that there are dangers
when we are as dry
01:51:44.520 --> 01:51:46.300
and as hot as we are right now.
01:51:46.300 --> 01:51:49.740
I think that Chief Porter's
mentioned that in the past,
01:51:49.740 --> 01:51:53.130
that at one point it
becomes even dangerous
01:51:53.130 --> 01:51:54.380
to do veg management
01:51:54.380 --> 01:51:56.787
because we're deep in the fire season
01:51:56.787 --> 01:51:59.750
and we've got some pretty
bad conditions out there.
01:51:59.750 --> 01:52:01.870
Yeah President,
I would just echo,
01:52:01.870 --> 01:52:04.210
completely agree with what you said,
01:52:04.210 --> 01:52:05.530
understand that utilities are required
01:52:05.530 --> 01:52:07.540
to take additional precautions
01:52:07.540 --> 01:52:09.880
for work being done during fire season,
01:52:09.880 --> 01:52:12.290
but remember, we tell
the public to stop doing
01:52:12.290 --> 01:52:13.570
their vegetation management
01:52:13.570 --> 01:52:15.680
and ensure they have
their defensible space
01:52:15.680 --> 01:52:17.733
really by May and by June,
01:52:19.177 --> 01:52:21.000
and while San Diego traditionally sees
01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:23.780
the more destructive
fires later in the season,
01:52:23.780 --> 01:52:25.710
I would hope that the company would take
01:52:25.710 --> 01:52:28.870
the same responsibility
that we give to the public
01:52:28.870 --> 01:52:30.413
and the same advice,
and that is get some
01:52:30.413 --> 01:52:33.300
of that veg management
done earlier in the year,
01:52:33.300 --> 01:52:35.653
not during the peak of fire season.
01:52:37.690 --> 01:52:39.930
And I would just like
to take the opportunity
01:52:39.930 --> 01:52:41.680
to clarify a little bit if I could.
01:52:43.000 --> 01:52:47.120
We already, in all cases in
the high fire threat district,
01:52:47.120 --> 01:52:49.670
go above and beyond
the legal requirements
01:52:49.670 --> 01:52:51.790
of, I believe, it's six and a half feet.
01:52:51.790 --> 01:52:54.300
We have 12 feet in every location
01:52:54.300 --> 01:52:56.880
in our high fire threat
district, 12 feet of clearance.
01:52:56.880 --> 01:52:59.660
What our enhanced vegetation
management program is,
01:52:59.660 --> 01:53:03.620
is identifying 81,000 trees
that are more problematic,
01:53:03.620 --> 01:53:05.700
that are the five
species that I mentioned,
01:53:05.700 --> 01:53:08.500
and going above and beyond,
even the above and beyond,
01:53:08.500 --> 01:53:11.090
we go to 12 and going up to 25 feet
01:53:11.090 --> 01:53:13.560
for that population of 81,000.
01:53:13.560 --> 01:53:16.150
When we put it in our
wildfire mitigation plan,
01:53:16.150 --> 01:53:20.760
again, this takes a lot
of work with land owners
01:53:20.760 --> 01:53:25.240
and property owners
to be able to do this
01:53:25.240 --> 01:53:27.037
and so we made it a five-year plan.
01:53:27.037 --> 01:53:29.230
And so these are just
our goals as part of that,
01:53:29.230 --> 01:53:34.230
again, going above and
beyond the legal requirements
01:53:34.450 --> 01:53:35.500
that we already have.
01:53:40.056 --> 01:53:41.550
President Batjer?
01:53:41.550 --> 01:53:44.280
Yes, Commissioner
Guzman Aceves.
01:53:44.280 --> 01:53:47.100
Yeah John, earlier you
mentioned there has been
01:53:47.100 --> 01:53:52.100
five contacts, I think, to the ground,
01:53:52.780 --> 01:53:54.250
if I have understood you correctly
01:53:54.250 --> 01:53:56.680
and you mentioned
that one was an ignition,
01:53:56.680 --> 01:53:58.403
but then you mentioned
something after that
01:53:58.403 --> 01:54:00.993
that I didn't quite catch.
01:54:02.580 --> 01:54:06.900
So, we've had five
contacts in our HFTD.
01:54:06.900 --> 01:54:08.470
So five times the vegetation
01:54:08.470 --> 01:54:10.980
has caused an outage to our system.
01:54:10.980 --> 01:54:14.230
We've had one ignition
caused by vegetation
01:54:14.230 --> 01:54:17.650
in the entire system that
happened outside the HFTB.
01:54:17.650 --> 01:54:19.923
So the ignition that happened
was not even in the HFTD,
01:54:19.923 --> 01:54:22.660
that's the point I was trying to make.
01:54:22.660 --> 01:54:24.073
Okay. Thank you.
01:54:25.490 --> 01:54:27.900
I wondered the same,
so thank you very much,
01:54:27.900 --> 01:54:30.640
Commissioner Guzman
Aceves for asking that question,
01:54:30.640 --> 01:54:32.480
I had it written down
and I skipped over it,
01:54:32.480 --> 01:54:34.280
so thank you for that clarification.
01:54:36.010 --> 01:54:38.337
I did have an
additional question,
01:54:38.337 --> 01:54:40.480
and this goes to the recognition
01:54:40.480 --> 01:54:44.090
that much as a
prevention, moving forward,
01:54:44.090 --> 01:54:48.920
could be enhanced by greater
telecommunication capability.
01:54:48.920 --> 01:54:53.810
And you mentioned you're
building your own LTD network
01:54:53.810 --> 01:54:56.770
and that's something I would like to
01:54:56.770 --> 01:54:58.820
follow up with you offline.
01:54:58.820 --> 01:55:00.830
And we just want to acknowledge, also,
01:55:00.830 --> 01:55:03.780
that as part of the
Governor's executive order
01:55:03.780 --> 01:55:06.990
from last year, we
did order the utilities
01:55:06.990 --> 01:55:09.340
to propose pilot projects
01:55:09.340 --> 01:55:12.330
where the overlap of hardening work
01:55:12.330 --> 01:55:15.190
and the un-served community,
01:55:15.190 --> 01:55:17.980
just as you need to
communicate with your systems,
01:55:17.980 --> 01:55:20.860
it's important to
communicate with those areas.
01:55:20.860 --> 01:55:23.380
And I did want to
acknowledge that San Diego,
01:55:23.380 --> 01:55:26.870
SDG&E discount
forward is a potential pilot
01:55:26.870 --> 01:55:31.870
with the Rincon Nations,
so I look forward to hearing
01:55:32.140 --> 01:55:36.000
more details and working
more with you on that.
01:55:36.000 --> 01:55:36.833
Thank you.
01:55:38.556 --> 01:55:40.813
I'll be glad to follow up
with you, Commissioner.
01:55:43.600 --> 01:55:48.600
Okay. Again, please
raise your hand or shout.
01:55:49.200 --> 01:55:50.887
Well, don't raise your hand, speak up,
01:55:50.887 --> 01:55:52.613
'cause I can't see everybody.
01:55:54.370 --> 01:55:59.230
Any other questions of
the company at this time?
01:55:59.230 --> 01:56:04.230
Okay. I'm not seeing any.
01:56:04.700 --> 01:56:07.610
And so I really want to, again,
01:56:07.610 --> 01:56:12.100
thank the representatives of
the San Diego Gas and Electric
01:56:12.100 --> 01:56:14.300
for the presentations today.
01:56:14.300 --> 01:56:18.740
And we are pretty much
on time, believe it or not,
01:56:18.740 --> 01:56:21.410
because we have mixed
our questions of you all
01:56:23.810 --> 01:56:26.870
in the presentation and I
hope those interruptions
01:56:26.870 --> 01:56:29.500
weren't troubling to you,
but I think it makes things
01:56:29.500 --> 01:56:31.180
more timely when we do it that way.
01:56:31.180 --> 01:56:33.647
So I appreciate that indulgence.
01:56:39.640 --> 01:56:44.640
So, we are really now at 4:05 and then,
01:56:44.780 --> 01:56:46.540
I see that it's 4:03,
01:56:46.540 --> 01:56:49.580
we are at the public
comment portion of our agenda
01:56:49.580 --> 01:56:51.640
and I please ask that all of the members
01:56:51.640 --> 01:56:54.790
of the San Diego Gas and
Electric company remain
01:56:54.790 --> 01:56:58.133
so you can hear the
public comment with us.
01:57:00.360 --> 01:57:05.360
So as a reminder, if you do
wish to make a public comment,
01:57:05.670 --> 01:57:10.500
please dial into 1-800-857-1917,
01:57:13.955 --> 01:57:16.923
enter pass code 7218384#
01:57:22.550 --> 01:57:24.353
and please press *1.
01:57:26.973 --> 01:57:29.100
You will be placed into a queue
01:57:29.100 --> 01:57:32.720
and the operator will take
your name and organization,
01:57:32.720 --> 01:57:35.870
there may be a delay
from the time you press *1
01:57:36.850 --> 01:57:38.330
so please be patient.
01:57:39.170 --> 01:57:42.250
The operator will ask
you for your information
01:57:42.250 --> 01:57:46.110
and then you will be put into the queue
01:57:46.110 --> 01:57:47.820
and you can stay online, please.
01:57:47.820 --> 01:57:50.210
Again, I want to remind the public
01:57:50.210 --> 01:57:53.090
that we have allotted two minutes,
01:57:53.090 --> 01:57:55.880
two minutes for each speaker,
01:57:55.880 --> 01:57:59.900
and you will hear a
bell when your time is up
01:57:59.900 --> 01:58:04.510
and I just ask that
you listen for that bell
01:58:04.510 --> 01:58:06.500
because you will be taking up time
01:58:06.500 --> 01:58:09.520
from other important
members of our public
01:58:09.520 --> 01:58:11.700
who also want to comment.
01:58:11.700 --> 01:58:14.817
So operator, the first
commenter, please,
01:58:14.817 --> 01:58:16.167
if you could bring them on.
01:58:18.240 --> 01:58:21.530
Thank you, the
public comment line is now open
01:58:21.530 --> 01:58:24.750
and our first speaker
is Melissa Kasnitz,
01:58:24.750 --> 01:58:25.763
your line is open.
01:58:28.670 --> 01:58:30.690
Thank you.
Can you hear me?
01:58:30.690 --> 01:58:33.333
We can, Melissa.
01:58:33.333 --> 01:58:35.400
Thank you,
this is Melissa Kasnitz,
01:58:35.400 --> 01:58:36.460
I'm the legal director
01:58:36.460 --> 01:58:39.180
with the Center for
Accessible Technology,
01:58:39.180 --> 01:58:41.860
an active participant in the
Commission proceedings
01:58:41.860 --> 01:58:45.230
regarding de-energization,
representing the interests,
01:58:45.230 --> 01:58:48.980
of people with disabilities
and medical vulnerabilities,
01:58:48.980 --> 01:58:52.003
who, as we all know, are
particularly susceptible to harm.
01:58:52.900 --> 01:58:54.380
I've been fighting a losing battle
01:58:54.380 --> 01:58:57.380
against the name of
public safety power shutoff,
01:58:57.380 --> 01:58:59.520
because I still
believe that the utilities
01:58:59.520 --> 01:59:02.040
have not convincingly
shown that these shutoffs
01:59:02.040 --> 01:59:05.570
enhance public safety, but
it is a convenient acronym,
01:59:05.570 --> 01:59:09.040
so it just seems to be moving forward.
01:59:09.040 --> 01:59:12.460
I want to say that I
appreciate the utilities notice
01:59:12.460 --> 01:59:14.790
that they're learning
from their experience
01:59:14.790 --> 01:59:17.500
and the improvements
that they're making a real,
01:59:17.500 --> 01:59:20.330
but also note that
they come at great cost
01:59:20.330 --> 01:59:22.990
to the people who have been impacted.
01:59:22.990 --> 01:59:25.330
A learning experience for the utility
01:59:25.330 --> 01:59:28.920
usually is based on a bad
experience for the customer
01:59:28.920 --> 01:59:31.250
that the utility then learns from.
01:59:31.250 --> 01:59:33.360
So we can't forget the hardships
01:59:33.360 --> 01:59:37.420
that people have been
facing and this is unfortunate
01:59:37.420 --> 01:59:41.470
because most of the harms,
the C for AT has said repeatedly,
01:59:41.470 --> 01:59:44.360
has been predictable and predicted.
01:59:44.360 --> 01:59:46.430
In particular, the distress faced
01:59:46.430 --> 01:59:50.070
by people with disabilities
and medical vulnerabilities
01:59:50.070 --> 01:59:52.240
were identified well before the rollout
01:59:52.240 --> 01:59:54.360
of the power shutoff program
01:59:54.360 --> 01:59:56.170
and so some things are unfortunate
01:59:56.170 --> 01:59:58.623
that it's taken this
long to actually develop.
01:59:59.640 --> 02:00:01.820
In particular, the balance of risks
02:00:01.820 --> 02:00:04.320
still needs further development.
02:00:04.320 --> 02:00:07.680
SDG&E shared with great pride
the development of their data
02:00:07.680 --> 02:00:10.070
for interpreting the fire risk,
02:00:10.070 --> 02:00:11.430
but we're still in early days
02:00:11.430 --> 02:00:13.340
regarding the public safety risks
02:00:13.340 --> 02:00:16.870
that people experience
during the power shutoffs.
02:00:16.870 --> 02:00:20.370
I'd like to see more
development and more discussion
02:00:20.370 --> 02:00:22.670
of how the risks that people experience
02:00:22.670 --> 02:00:27.020
during extended power
outages are evaluated,
02:00:27.020 --> 02:00:32.020
how they're put into
some sort of numerical form
02:00:32.280 --> 02:00:35.120
and how the analysis is actually done
02:00:35.120 --> 02:00:37.760
when comparing the
risks of power shutoff
02:00:37.760 --> 02:00:40.680
to the fire risks that
people experience.
02:00:40.680 --> 02:00:41.783
Thank you very much.
02:00:43.920 --> 02:00:45.580
Thank you,
Melissa and I'm sorry,
02:00:45.580 --> 02:00:48.510
I started by saying yes, Elizabeth.
02:00:48.510 --> 02:00:51.761
I heard Elizabeth, but I
don't know why I heard that.
02:00:51.761 --> 02:00:54.020
I didn't even
hear it, but no problem.
02:00:54.020 --> 02:00:56.197
Thank you, President Batjer.
02:00:57.860 --> 02:01:00.851
Operator, the
next caller, please.
02:01:00.851 --> 02:01:03.430
Thank you, our
next caller is Karina Gonzalez.
02:01:03.430 --> 02:01:04.333
Your line is open.
02:01:06.930 --> 02:01:08.050
Good afternoon, everyone.
02:01:08.050 --> 02:01:10.870
My name is Karina Gonzalez
and I am a rate payer
02:01:10.870 --> 02:01:15.650
in SDG&E service
territory, living in Chula Vista.
02:01:15.650 --> 02:01:19.020
As SDG&E struggles to
make transmission lines safe,
02:01:19.020 --> 02:01:21.110
costing rate payers billions of dollars
02:01:21.110 --> 02:01:23.440
in wildfire mitigation efforts,
02:01:23.440 --> 02:01:26.420
they are also actively
fighting rooftop solar,
02:01:26.420 --> 02:01:28.730
which is the only way we will reduce
02:01:28.730 --> 02:01:31.230
the amount of long
transmission lines needed
02:01:31.230 --> 02:01:33.140
that are causing wildfires.
02:01:33.140 --> 02:01:35.710
Rooftop solar and
storage will not only save
02:01:35.710 --> 02:01:37.820
rate payers billions
of dollars per year,
02:01:37.820 --> 02:01:40.700
but will also make our
communities more resilient
02:01:40.700 --> 02:01:43.120
to public power safety shutoff events,
02:01:43.120 --> 02:01:46.070
yet SDG&E and the other
investor owned utilities
02:01:46.070 --> 02:01:49.180
are trying to make it
harder for people to go solar
02:01:49.180 --> 02:01:52.430
by making drastic cuts
to net energy metering.
02:01:52.430 --> 02:01:56.240
PSPS events should
be used as a last resort
02:01:56.240 --> 02:01:58.740
and as we heard from Cal FIRE,
02:01:58.740 --> 02:02:02.630
that we are heading into a
more devastating wildfire season.
02:02:02.630 --> 02:02:05.240
I would like to urge the
CPUC Commissioners
02:02:05.240 --> 02:02:10.240
to hold SDG&E accountable
for more frequent PSPS events
02:02:10.862 --> 02:02:14.300
in a time where the climate
crisis is rapidly accelerating,
02:02:14.300 --> 02:02:17.230
summers are getting hotter
and winters are becoming drier
02:02:18.170 --> 02:02:20.250
and wildfires will become
more and more common.
02:02:20.250 --> 02:02:22.470
Let's focus on building grid resilience
02:02:22.470 --> 02:02:24.610
with local rooftop solar.
02:02:24.610 --> 02:02:25.920
Commissioners, I would like to urge you
02:02:25.920 --> 02:02:28.680
to recognize the benefits
that rooftop solar and storage
02:02:28.680 --> 02:02:33.680
can bring in in terms of
reducing PSPS event impact
02:02:33.970 --> 02:02:36.070
and reducing utility transmission lines
02:02:36.070 --> 02:02:38.500
and adopt a strong net energy metering
02:02:38.500 --> 02:02:41.540
that will allow solar and
storage to continue to grow.
02:02:41.540 --> 02:02:42.373
Thank you.
02:02:46.660 --> 02:02:50.483
Thank you, caller. Operator,
the next caller, please.
02:02:51.825 --> 02:02:54.393
Our next
caller is Tara Hammond.
02:02:54.393 --> 02:02:56.403
Hammond, your line is open.
02:02:57.490 --> 02:02:59.720
Good afternoon President
Batjer and Commissioners,
02:02:59.720 --> 02:03:00.990
my name is Tara Hammond.
02:03:00.990 --> 02:03:03.050
I'm the founder of
Hammond Climate Solutions
02:03:03.050 --> 02:03:04.960
located in San Diego.
02:03:04.960 --> 02:03:08.560
We have seen SDG&E burn
down huge parts of our county,
02:03:08.560 --> 02:03:10.260
killing our residents and animals
02:03:10.260 --> 02:03:12.330
while destroying native habitats.
02:03:12.330 --> 02:03:14.260
We continued to watch SDG&E
02:03:14.260 --> 02:03:16.820
and its parent company, Sempra Energy,
02:03:16.820 --> 02:03:19.090
keep us addicted to dirty fossil fuels
02:03:19.090 --> 02:03:20.940
and attack rooftop solar,
02:03:20.940 --> 02:03:23.370
worsening climate racism in California
02:03:23.370 --> 02:03:25.550
and accelerating the climate crisis,
02:03:25.550 --> 02:03:29.183
which often impacts communities
of concern first and worst.
02:03:30.220 --> 02:03:32.720
We can avoid many future power outages.
02:03:32.720 --> 02:03:34.930
We should be investing
in resilient communities
02:03:34.930 --> 02:03:38.230
by installing more local
rooftop solar and energy storage,
02:03:38.230 --> 02:03:40.150
not building costly transmission lines
02:03:40.150 --> 02:03:42.670
through desert servers that
have previously caught on fire
02:03:42.670 --> 02:03:44.240
due to transmission lines,
02:03:44.240 --> 02:03:47.000
which increase the
investor and utilities profits.
02:03:47.000 --> 02:03:49.640
I implore you to hold SDG&E accountable
02:03:49.640 --> 02:03:51.800
and adopt a strong net metering 3.0
02:03:51.800 --> 02:03:54.290
to allow rooftop solar
to grow sustainably
02:03:54.290 --> 02:03:55.840
as directed by law.
02:03:55.840 --> 02:03:57.870
Reducing fires, lessening the impacts
02:03:57.870 --> 02:04:00.470
of climate injustices
in the climate crisis
02:04:00.470 --> 02:04:02.200
and making our grid more resilient
02:04:02.200 --> 02:04:05.400
while keeping rates significantly
lower for all rate payers.
02:04:05.400 --> 02:04:06.233
Thank you.
02:04:09.350 --> 02:04:11.863
Thank you, operator
the next caller, please.
02:04:12.750 --> 02:04:15.000
Our next
caller is Shayla Ott,
02:04:15.000 --> 02:04:15.903
your line is open.
02:04:18.429 --> 02:04:20.220
Good afternoon,
President Batjer
02:04:20.220 --> 02:04:22.190
and Commissioners, my name is Shayla
02:04:22.190 --> 02:04:27.150
and I'm a resident of San
Diego and an SDG&E rate payer.
02:04:27.150 --> 02:04:30.390
Myself and others in SDG&E's territory
02:04:30.390 --> 02:04:33.470
have not only contributed
to the million dollars
02:04:33.470 --> 02:04:37.470
of profit plus per day that
SDG&E makes off of our city,
02:04:37.470 --> 02:04:39.960
but also have contributed
to the billions of dollars
02:04:39.960 --> 02:04:42.670
that go towards
wildfire mitigation efforts
02:04:42.670 --> 02:04:46.110
and long transmission
lines that cause wildfires.
02:04:46.110 --> 02:04:48.400
SDG&E and their parent company, Sempra,
02:04:48.400 --> 02:04:50.590
are constantly fighting
the various solutions
02:04:50.590 --> 02:04:52.780
that we have to reduce wildfires
02:04:52.780 --> 02:04:56.073
and exorbitant transmission line costs.
02:04:56.910 --> 02:04:59.160
Rooftop solar and
storage are those solutions
02:04:59.160 --> 02:05:00.690
that will make us more resilient
02:05:00.690 --> 02:05:02.690
to public safety power shutoffs
02:05:02.690 --> 02:05:05.520
and help prevent further
destruction to plant life,
02:05:05.520 --> 02:05:08.300
wildlife habitats and our communities.
02:05:08.300 --> 02:05:11.510
Additionally, SDG&E is
also significantly behind
02:05:11.510 --> 02:05:14.720
on undergrounding which
would also reduce fires.
02:05:14.720 --> 02:05:17.140
Rooftop solar and
storage will reduce the need
02:05:17.140 --> 02:05:19.200
for transmission lines and the wildfires
02:05:19.200 --> 02:05:20.430
that are a result of those,
02:05:20.430 --> 02:05:23.460
by saving rate payers
billions of dollars.
02:05:23.460 --> 02:05:26.270
Our grid can and should
be made more resilient now
02:05:26.270 --> 02:05:28.010
with partnership from SDG&E
02:05:28.010 --> 02:05:30.280
rather than them acting
against the interests
02:05:30.280 --> 02:05:33.170
of their rate payers by
fighting that energy metering.
02:05:33.170 --> 02:05:34.233
Thank you so much.
02:05:37.100 --> 02:05:40.097
Thank you, operator,
the next caller please.
02:05:41.380 --> 02:05:44.630
President Batjer,
there are no more speakers
02:05:44.630 --> 02:05:46.593
in the public comment telephone line.
02:05:48.070 --> 02:05:51.500
Okay, operator could you
just make another announcement
02:05:51.500 --> 02:05:55.850
of how people can sign up if
they wish to get in the lineup.
02:05:55.850 --> 02:05:57.840
We'll wait just a moment
to see if there's anybody
02:05:57.840 --> 02:05:59.590
that's had difficulties getting in.
02:06:02.950 --> 02:06:05.403
If you would
like to make a comment,
02:06:05.403 --> 02:06:09.970
please press star then one
on your telephone keypad,
02:06:09.970 --> 02:06:13.290
record your name at the
prompt so I may introduce you.
02:06:13.290 --> 02:06:15.710
Again, if you would
like to make a comment,
02:06:15.710 --> 02:06:17.643
please press star then one.
02:06:33.740 --> 02:06:36.490
(computer tones)
02:06:38.220 --> 02:06:42.160
Okay, operator. Has
anybody else joined us?
02:06:42.160 --> 02:06:46.940
Yes, we do have one
commenter, Ted Howard.
02:06:46.940 --> 02:06:48.100
Your line is open.
02:06:49.413 --> 02:06:50.810
Hi, thank you,
yes, this is Ted Howard
02:06:50.810 --> 02:06:53.680
with small businesses utility advocates
02:06:53.680 --> 02:06:56.280
and I've noted over the
past couple of decades
02:06:56.280 --> 02:06:59.210
there seems to be a shifting analysis
02:06:59.210 --> 02:07:03.470
of the relative benefits
of undergrounding
02:07:03.470 --> 02:07:07.970
versus high wire or unprotected wires
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and I'm wondering where the
cost benefit analysis comes out
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when looking at undergrounding,
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covered conductors and
distributed energy resources,
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such as solar, wood storage, NEM 3.0,
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all these alternatives.
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I'm very interested in knowing
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where the benefits versus
cost analysis comes out now
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given the increasing risk of wildfires,
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and so I would like to
follow up with that one.
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If there's any comment
now I'd appreciate that,
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and otherwise I'd like
to follow up, thank you.
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Typically we don't
answer comments
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during the public comment period,
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but if SDG&E has a study
underway or one that is public
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that you've posted, perhaps
you could remark on that.
02:08:02.744 --> 02:08:06.580
If not, maybe we can get
some followup information
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to us as well.
02:08:10.760 --> 02:08:14.360
Okay operator, any other questions,
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any other members
of the public calling in?
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I'm showing no
further comments at this time.
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Okay, thank you, operator.
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With no more callers on the line,
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the public comment period is closed.
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So again, I'd like to thank
you all for joining us today
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and for all the very
important, informative briefing
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and important discussions
and I want to thank those
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who have called in, your comments
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are very important to us and well noted.
02:08:47.200 --> 02:08:51.280
And I also, of course, want
to thank my colleagues,
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my esteemed colleagues from Cal OES,
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from Cal FIRE and
OES for joining us today
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and I appreciate very much
the questions you also asked
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and the dialogue we were able to have.
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We look forward to hearing tomorrow
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from SoCal Edison, and PG&E.
02:09:10.790 --> 02:09:15.010
So please all join us
for those presentations,
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and again, I thank SDG&E
for your presentation today
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and for your time. Thank you very much.
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This meeting is now adjourned.