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To offer standing
by today's conference
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all participants are
on a listen only mode.
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I would now like to turn the
call over to President Batjer.
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Thank you, you may begin.
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Thank you very
much, (indistinct).
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Appreciate that. And
hello and hello everyone.
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Thank you very much for joining us today
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for public briefings
from Bare Valley Electric,
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from Liberty Utilities
and from Pacific Corp
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on their readiness for
public safety power shutoff
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is as this wildfire season.
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Today's briefing from the small
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and multi-jurisdictional utilities
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is the last in a series
of four public briefings
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we are holding this week, having heard
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from San Diego Gas&Electric
Company on Monday
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Southern California Edison Company
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and Pacific Gas&Electric
Company yesterday.
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I am honored to have joining me today
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on the virtual dais representatives
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from the California Governor's
Office of Emergency Services,
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the California Department of
Forestry and Fire Protection
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and the Office of Energy,
Infrastructure, Safe and Safety.
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Director Ghilarducci
from OES is here with us.
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Chief for Lance is here from Cal Fire
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and director Caroline Thomas
Jacobs is here from OEIS.
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As well as my fellow Commissioners,
Commissioner Shaaban
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Commissioner (indistinct)
Commissioner Shiroma
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and Commissioner
Houck.xx Welcome to all.
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In terms of it, of format
for today's briefing
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following opening remarks from the dais.
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We will first hear from
Pacific Corp, Allen Berreth,
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vice-president transmission
and distribution strategy.
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Followed by Liberty
Utilities, California,
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president Chris Alario
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and finally, Bear Valley's
Electric president Paul Marconi.
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Each utilities presentation
will be followed
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by 15 minutes of
questions from the dais.
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I will tell everybody
that the last two days
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we have asked questions along the way.
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So please don't take that
as an intentional interruption,
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but it has been beneficial to
ask during your presentation
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questions, as we go
through your presentation.
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After the three presentations
and three rounds of Q&A,
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we will move to the public
comment period of our agenda.
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We are scheduled to
conclude by 12:00 p.m.
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For the public comment
portion, which will begin at 11:25,
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if you wish to make a public comment,
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please dial into 1-800-857-1917,
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enter passcode 7218384#
and press star one.
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You will be placed into a queue
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and the operator would
take a name and organization.
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There may be a delay from
the time you press star one
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to the time the operator
asks for your information.
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So please be patient
and stay on the line.
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You will be called upon
to speak when you get,
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when we get to the public
comment period in today's agenda,
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and we will provide two minutes,
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we will provide two
minutes for each speaker.
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You will, I will keep my
opening remarks brief
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so that the majority of our time
today can be used to ensure
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the public is able to
hear from the utilities
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on their state of preparedness.
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It says, I am sure and number
of people listening today
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were not able to join us
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for the earlier briefings I mentioned,
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I hope you will indulge me as
I cover a few important topics
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that yes I have covered
in the last two days.
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With climate change,
drought driven weather events
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and the drought conditions
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we are facing throughout the west.
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Our wildfire seasons are
starting earlier and ending later,
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and they are persistently more severe.
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This year there have already
been approximately 6,000 fires
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that have burned over half
a million acres in California.
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And it's only the beginning of August.
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We are already in
what will likely be a long
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and very difficult wildfire season.
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Oh, we are driving the utilities to plan
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for an execute approaches to reduce risk
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of utility cause wildfires
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through better weather forecasting,
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red hardening and vegetation management.
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One of the tools that is
available to the utilities
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is indeed to shut off
power to customers.
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Unlike other mitigation strategies,
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these proactive power
shutoff for PSPS events
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have very real and direct
impacts to customers.
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It is trading individual
risk to customers
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or reducing wildfire risk.
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This trade off is why PSPS
events must always be.
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And we will all underscore this today.
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Must always be a measure of last resort.
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So utilities have the obligation
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to manage their grids responsibly
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and they must keep the safety
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and well-being of their
customers as their highest priority.
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Well, PSPS is not sustainable.
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It's not a sustainable approach
to reducing wildfire risk.
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We must ensure that
if and when utilities
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do decide to shut off power,
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they are prepared to
execute and communicate
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in a way that minimizes impact.
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Today, Pacific Corp,
Liberty and Bear Valley
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has either not used
PSPS or used it only rarely.
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This lack of experience
makes preparation
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all the more crucial in
case any of the utilities
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we will be hearing from today.
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Use PSPS of is this welfare season.
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In addition, we know that these entities
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can be impacted by PSPS events,
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call by other entities and utilities.
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For example, their valley
is a transmission customer
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of Southern California Edison.
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As with the other utilities today,
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I am eager to hear how
Pacific Corp, Liberty,
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(clears throat) excuse
me, and Bear Valley
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will mitigate impacts of
potential power shutoff
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on (clears throat) excuse me.
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On people who rely on electricity
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to maintain necessary life function,
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including or durable medical equipment
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and assistive technology.
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I also wanna hear how
they will conduct outreach
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to and notification of all customers
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within a particular focus on customers
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with access and functional needs.
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I also want to hear how these utilities
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will coordinate with other utilities
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who they receive transmission from.
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With that I'm very much looking forward
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to getting into the specifics
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and having a very
thorough dialogue today.
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I will now turn to our representatives
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from Cal OES, Cal Fire and OEIS,
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if you have any opening
remarks to share with us today,
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first I'll turn to director Ghilarducci.
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Mark.
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(clears throat)
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I'm ready.
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Good morning, President
Batjer, could you hear me okay?
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Yes.
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We hear you fine.
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Okay. Great.
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Well, good morning.
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Thanks President Batjer, and
members of the Commission,
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members of utilities
that are joined today.
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I'm happy to be with you.
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I really feel like today's briefing
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with the smaller
multi-jurisdictional utilities
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really does provide us another
opportunity to get together
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and continue to discuss
how we can continue to refine
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and improve our overall efforts
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with regards to public
safety, power shutoffs,
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and fire mitigation around
our power infrastructure.
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Particularly ensuring
that the stage notifications
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when they do occur,
reflect the highest stage,
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which the IOU has
entered into its PSPS activity
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and in a timely fashion.
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It really not the
effort of first resort,
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but the effort of last resort.
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We have been working closely
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with the three smaller utilities
over the course of 2020.
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I will say that we have
been able to successfully
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identify all the relevant contacts
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we've made good coordination
points of contact and outreach
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and engaged all Pacific Corp, Liberty,
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and Bear Valley in PSPS planning events.
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These IOUs have been totally now folded
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into the (indistinct)
continuous refinement
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of PSPS events protocol
that includes them attending
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monthly state agency partner
and IOU coordination calls
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actively participating in
the state operation center
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situation sell workshops
and focus groups
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to improve customer
notification procedures
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adopting the standardized
executive briefing template
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to be used during PSPS events
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when briefing stage stakeholders
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and seeking feedback from
us on their PSPS protocols.
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This is increased engagement
in crucial prevent work
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that will ensure that all
three utilities PSPS events
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go as smoothly as possible,
not only for the end customer,
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but for state stakeholders as well.
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We appreciate all three utilities
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putting in their PSPS planning efforts.
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One area of improvement that we note
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would be to assist in
state situational awareness,
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as well as their own operations.
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That adoption of what
we call a rest service.
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This is representational
state transfer of information.
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In essence, this is pulling
mapping through GIS data
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to be able to provide
that situational awareness
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up to the state so we
can see what is happening
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with the impact to customers
throughout their jurisdiction,
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and be able to work with them
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on being able to meet
unmet needs as, as they arise.
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And this would also allow
for real-time data sharing
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during PSPS events specifically,
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I would say that for Pacific
Corp Pacific course first PSPS
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was in September of 2020.
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The IRU did reach out
regularly to OES for feedback
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and made sure they
were responsive to us.
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What we had questions
on their notifications.
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There were some mishaps
as there would be expected
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in the first go around,
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but they were quickly
corrected by Pacific Corp
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and the mistakes were not repeated.
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Pacific Corp then also
launched a new PSPS website
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with address lookup for customers
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to see if they were located
within the PSPS impacted area.
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All good positive movements forward.
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In the case of Liberty,
we did work with them.
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Okay, conducted tabletop
exercises on May 25th
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and a full-scale exercise on June 25th,
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we did learn how they
did their notifications
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and made recommendations on improvements
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or notification informed submittal.
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And Bear Valley did also
conduct a tabletop exercise
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on June 21st.
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And again, noting what comes out
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of these table top exercises gaps.
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And we were able to
identify areas of improvement
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with regards to PSPS
notifications in more timely fashion.
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I would say overall,
there's still work to be done
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with all three of
these smaller utilities.
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And of course, all three
have been impacted by wildfire
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over the course of the last two years.
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In fact, I was up in Alpine County
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at the Tamarack fire last week,
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and Liberty was very, very actively
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working to get power restored.
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But there's still work to do
with community resource centers
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with the AFN community and
overall support to the community.
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And I do believe that
given the resources
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available to these utilities
and their interest and intent,
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they are working in a positive
way to try to work with us.
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But again, there's
continued work to be done
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and we continue to look
forward to working with them.
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So with that President
Batjer, back to you. Thank you.
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Great.
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Thank you so much
Mark for those remarks.
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Now I will turn to
Caroline director of OEIS.
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Caroline, do you have
any opening remarks?
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Yeah, I'll keep it brief.
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Thank you, President Batjer, again,
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really appreciate the opportunity
to be here with all of you
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and get the briefing from the utilities
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on their preparations for
this coming PSPS season,
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or we're already in the midst of.
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Certainly re concur with all
the comments that both you
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and director Ghilarducci
have already mentioned
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in terms of the severity
that we're looking at
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and the preparation
and the work that needs
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to go into being ready to respond
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and accurately and effectively
implement a PSPS this season,
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especially for the smalls.
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I do want to just reiterate
what you mentioned,
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President Batjer in the sense
that I know that for Liberty
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and Bear Valley, you guys
haven't called a PSPS yet.
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And certainly what we
learned from the larger utilities
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is that even with preparation
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that the first few times
can be a little bit rough
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in terms of learning the particulars.
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And so I think it's all
the more important
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for you guys to be
pushing and thinking ahead
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and preparing and practicing
what that would look like.
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Because we do have the experience now
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you have the lessons learned
from the previous utilities,
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and I think that there's opportunity
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to be able to be better
prepared the first go around
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then the other utilities
as they were initially
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ramping up their PSPS programs.
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So look forward to hearing the progress
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that you've made this year
and continue to push on
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and appreciate again, the time
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and opportunity to chat
with the utility today.
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Thank you, director, appreciate
your remarks very much.
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Chief Berlin.
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Do you have any opening
remarks you'd like to make?
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Sure thank you. Good
morning, President Batjer,
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and everybody I'll just echo
the comments that were made
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specifically, President Batjer,
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your comments about the conditions
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that we're already
experiencing this fire season.
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It should be noted that
nearly 89% of California
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is under extreme or
exceptional drought conditions.
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And we're already seeing
the results of those conditions.
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We're seeing a significant increase
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in the number of wildfires,
the size of wildfires
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and the severity of wildfires.
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And so the 2021 fire season
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is without a doubt off to a busy start.
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And while I feel like
I'm a little bit repeating
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what I said last year,
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this year, we are
definitely seeing more fires
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than we did to the same
time period the year before.
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Today's briefing also very timely.
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As many of the counties
served (indistinct) companies
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are under red flag warning
conditions this week.
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So we are seeing
extreme weather conditions
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in two of the companies,
territories and fires
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in their territories as well.
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And so definitely look
forward to the updates
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on the planning going
into PSPS decision making
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and even looking forward
to some specific updates
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on the efforts to avoid PSPS
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through infrastructure hardening
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and require vegetation management.
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So on behalf of Cal Fire,
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appreciate the opportunity to be here
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and look forward to the presentation.
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Thank you very much
for your remarks Chief.
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And now I will turn to
my fellow Commissioners
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and the way you're all
being displayed on my screen.
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I can't see you all.
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So I can see Darcy any opening remarks
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from any of the Commissioners.
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Yes, yes.
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Very briefly,
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very much appreciated all of
the presentations the last few
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days and looking forward to today
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and for each of the presenters,
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I'll be interested in
everything they have to say,
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but also want to
hear a little more detail
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on how they're working
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with their community-based organizations
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and also for their assets,
emotional needs customers.
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I see that Bear Valley
provides for the transportation
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through their mountain
aid, but for Pacific Corp
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and providing a transportation access
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to too many resource centers.
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Thank you very much.
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Look forward to the
presentations and the discussion.
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Thank you,
Commissioner Shiroma.
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Any other Commissioners
would like to make a comment.
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President Batjer,
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this is Commissioner is mana
service here on the phone.
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I just wanted to, I
really here and I see
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that the Pacific Corp
we'll be touching on this,
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but clearly in our last previous update,
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there was a recognition of the need
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to really double down on communicating,
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improved communication
with the tribal nations
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in their territory.
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So I look forward to
hearing on that progress.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
Commissioner (indistinct).
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I see Commissioner (mumbles)
you have said you're okay.
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And I think Commissioner
Houck.xx says the same thing.
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So we will then thank you Commissioners.
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We will proceed then
to the first presentation
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from Pacific Corp,
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we have the president of transmission
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and distribution strategy
from Pacific Corp here with us
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to do the presentation.
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Sir, would you like to begin?
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All right, thank you.
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First let me just do a mic check
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and make sure everyone can hear me okay.
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We can hear you fine.
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All right it looks like it.
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And my presentation,
would it be displayed?
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Yes, it is up.
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Oh, there it is.
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Thank you.
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All right. Good morning,
President Batjer,
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Commissioners and
other agency officials.
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First, let me just say
thank you for the opportunity
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to review Pacific Corps' Public Safety
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Power Shutoff preparedness.
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So why don't we go ahead
and go to the next slide, please.
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So as noted on the
slide and for the record,
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my name is Allen Berreth
and I'm the vice-president
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of transmission and
distribution operations
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for Pacific Corp.
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I should note that, well, I'll
be giving the presentation.
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I am joined on the
call by Kurt Mansfield,
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our senior vice president
of power delivery.
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And in case there are
any detailed questions
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after the presentation,
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or sounds like throughout
the presentation,
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I have Justin, the Cartec,
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our director of emergency
management available,
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and also Melissa Nottingham,
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our manager of customer
advocacy and tariff policy
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are also available to
answering questions.
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We'll be going through
the following topics,
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which touch on our preparedness for PSPS
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and also the longer term grid hardening
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and customer communication,
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all the different aspects
that we've touched on
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in the opening remarks.
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So with that, let's go
to the next slide, please.
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All right.
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So before we go into the details,
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I'd like to provide a little
bit of context for Pacific Corp
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in our service territory in California.
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So shown here on the
image in Northern California,
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outlined in black is
our service territory.
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In purple is the tier two area
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and then shown in red is the tier three.
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And so in discussions,
when it comes to PSPS,
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it's that tier three, that
subset of our service territory
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that has the PSPS planning involved.
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We do serve 45,000 customers
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in our California service territory.
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And as we go to the next slide,
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we'll see what subset of that 45,000
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or in that tier three or PSPS planning.
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So as we zoom in to that red area
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that we showed on the previous slide
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and look at that tier three area
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in the table and lower
right, you see the stats.
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So these are the areas
that have been identified
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as extreme risk geographic locations,
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either inside that tier three
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or we're right next to that tier three.
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So we incorporated and
electrically connected our system
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that affects and impacts
that tier three area.
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So within that area,
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we've subdivided these
locations into five discreet zones
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that we can take
action on independently,
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given that conditions might
not affect this entire area
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all the same at the same time.
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So it's subdivided into five zones
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as shown in the table there.
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And you can see this is a
little over 10,000 customers
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served from nine substations,
20 distribution circuits,
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and about 260 overhead line miles
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are in this elevated tier three area.
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So while these are the areas
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that have been
identified for elevated risk
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and our PSPS planning,
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I do wanna know that
we do monitor conditions
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across our service territory.
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So we don't have blinders on
only looking at the PSPS areas.
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That's just where additional planning
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or asset hardening
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would be prioritized
first to take action.
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Our situational awareness goes,
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does go across our
entire service territory
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so that we are monitoring
conditions and can take actions
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as needed and dictated
by on the ground conditions.
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With that let's go to
the next slide, please.
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All right.
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So now let's transition
and talk about vegetation
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and the threat posed
to the electrical system
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through either the fallen risk
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of that nearby trees in our right away
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or outside of our right away
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can pose to the electrical system,
00:22:24.350 --> 00:22:27.650
or even that blow in
risk from vegetation trees
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that are nearby that has branches
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that either are blown out of the tree
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or into that, that can make contact
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with the electrical
system and create a fault
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or a possible ignition condition.
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And based on our historical
data from 2015 to 2020
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vegetation most likely causes around 26%
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of our fire risk events and
24% of our fire ignition events,
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which basically about
25% of all our risks
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and admission events,
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which is why it's an
important area to focus on
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with our wildfire mitigation plan.
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And so what are we
doing in the short term?
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So you see it they're
listed on the slide,
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which is an increase in
vegetation inspections
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in these high risk areas,
meaning an annual inspection
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of what is the condition of
vegetation near our lines,
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and do any conditions
need to be resolved.
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And where we've seen an increase
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due to the drought conditions
and health of these trees
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is an increase in a
high-risk tree inventory.
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And so understanding what trees
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and your dead and dying
trees need to be removed.
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And so doing an inventory of those trees
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in an accelerated removal of them,
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once they've been identified.
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We also a radial pole clearing
around the base of our poles,
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a 10 foot around equipment poles,
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so that as the equipment
operates a fuse opens,
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we make sure there's no fuel available
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at the base of those equipment poles
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that could create a situation
with fire spreading, right?
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And in situation awareness
through data collection.
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So what that means for us in
the vegetation management realm
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is well, we don't have a tree inventory
00:24:12.690 --> 00:24:15.976
of every tree we have,
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we have a tree inventory
of the high risk trees
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as they're identified,
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but there's not a complete
inventory of the trees
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around our electrical systems.
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And so to start a journey
toward establishing that
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we're piloting programs
such as satellite imagery
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and the images shown on the screen here,
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where we start getting a sense of
00:24:36.690 --> 00:24:40.090
what is using the
satellite imagery, LIDAR,
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where did these trees exist?
00:24:41.647 --> 00:24:45.743
What's the density of these
trees, density of tree canopy,
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so that we can start quantifying
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the risk of vegetation management
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in subsections of our circuits.
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So that can inform our
vegetation management program,
00:24:57.210 --> 00:24:59.770
prioritized areas where we might have
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to do increased trimming,
increased frequency.
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And so we're pushing for that.
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That will also eventually
create an inventory
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of our veg management risk
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and quantify the risk
reduction over time.
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That's our goal with
vegetation management.
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Transitioning to the longterm
shown in the lower right there
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is rebuilding our overhead
lines to cupboard conductor.
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So that just mitigating
that potential interference
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of a branch or a tree
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making contact with
a bare overhead wire.
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And so we'll rebuild the
lines to cover conductor,
00:25:38.210 --> 00:25:43.210
also changing out relays
reclosers to newer relay detection,
00:25:43.890 --> 00:25:47.470
where we can detect
heightened impedance faults
00:25:47.470 --> 00:25:50.610
anticipate fault before
there's actual ignition event
00:25:50.610 --> 00:25:55.560
wave form analysis seeing if
we can proactively determined
00:25:55.560 --> 00:25:57.760
that there could be a
potential tree interference
00:25:57.760 --> 00:25:58.830
somewhere out on the line
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before it actually creates
that ignition or fault, right?
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And then that also plays
into a system automation
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of switching around, sectionalizing,
00:26:08.670 --> 00:26:10.440
reducing the customer impact
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to these highly dense vegetation areas.
00:26:16.120 --> 00:26:18.120
That's our longer-term build out goal
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when it comes to vegetation management,
00:26:19.690 --> 00:26:21.420
how to mitigate that risk.
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Specifically with our 2021
vegetation management progress
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in California, we're about 60%
through our annual program,
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which makes sense, given
where we're at in the year,
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that is around 11,000
poles have been cleared,
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radio pole clearing at the base of it.
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We've inspected
around 1800 miles of line.
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We have cleared 1400 miles
of line conducted a tree pruning
00:26:49.312 --> 00:26:51.530
and ensuring that clearance exists.
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That's resulted in around
22,000 trees have been pruned
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2,400 trees have been removed.
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So speaking to that
hazard tree inventory
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:01.833
and removal process.
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So 2,400 so far this year.
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Again, those are year to date numbers,
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which represent about
60% of our annual program.
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So, all right, let's go
to the next slide please.
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So moving beyond vegetation management
00:27:20.637 --> 00:27:24.530
as a mitigation measure,
let's go a little longer term
00:27:24.530 --> 00:27:26.810
and let's now talk about
other actions being taken
00:27:26.810 --> 00:27:30.040
to harden the system
and reduce the likelihood
00:27:30.040 --> 00:27:34.440
or need or scope of a
public safety power shutoff.
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:37.030
And so, as I mentioned earlier
about cupboard conductor,
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that is our mainline mitigate
our main mitigation strategy.
00:27:41.990 --> 00:27:45.610
Just reducing that
exposure for overhead line
00:27:45.610 --> 00:27:49.070
and coupled with
installation of line reclosers
00:27:49.070 --> 00:27:50.870
and substation relays,
00:27:50.870 --> 00:27:55.300
to be able to have the
system react quicker to the,
00:27:55.300 --> 00:28:00.300
if a fault exists, if an
interference on our line exists.
00:28:00.690 --> 00:28:04.140
And so our mitigation
efforts are ramping up in 2021
00:28:04.140 --> 00:28:07.580
compared to what we were
able to accomplish in 2020,
00:28:07.580 --> 00:28:11.100
we are on track for delivering
85 miles of covered conductor
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by the end of 2021.
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:16.870
And with the installation
of 27 reclosers
00:28:16.870 --> 00:28:18.700
relays being installed
00:28:18.700 --> 00:28:20.623
out on the line and in our substation.
00:28:21.760 --> 00:28:25.740
As an example of how this
reduces the scope of PSPS,
00:28:25.740 --> 00:28:28.080
the graphic on this
slide is just showing
00:28:28.080 --> 00:28:30.860
one of those PSPS areas.
00:28:30.860 --> 00:28:32.480
When I said, we took our tier three
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:36.080
subdivided it into five
zones on the image there,
00:28:36.080 --> 00:28:38.590
you're looking at the Mount Shasta zone
00:28:38.590 --> 00:28:42.040
and it showing our
covered conductor project
00:28:42.040 --> 00:28:44.710
that we've completed in that
area, in the Mount Shasta area,
00:28:44.710 --> 00:28:48.180
which creates a ring
fence in the downtown area
00:28:48.180 --> 00:28:50.970
that can stay energized
and elevated wind events,
00:28:50.970 --> 00:28:52.900
allowing more system flexibility
00:28:52.900 --> 00:28:54.100
with the goal of reducing
00:28:54.100 --> 00:28:56.140
the impact of a PSPS events, right?
00:28:56.140 --> 00:28:59.202
So as soon as we put that
covered conductor in place,
00:28:59.202 --> 00:29:01.850
we can withstand
higher winds in that area.
00:29:01.850 --> 00:29:06.299
Meaning we don't have to
de-energize that core area
00:29:06.299 --> 00:29:09.090
under the same conditions as before.
00:29:09.090 --> 00:29:13.250
And then we only have to be
energized the taps out of town,
00:29:13.250 --> 00:29:15.500
wherever the direction
of the elevated wind
00:29:15.500 --> 00:29:17.160
or fire conditions exist.
00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:18.100
So it's just an example.
00:29:18.100 --> 00:29:20.710
And then we work out from
there in the coming years
00:29:20.710 --> 00:29:23.350
and accomplished peppered
conductor from those taps,
00:29:23.350 --> 00:29:25.530
meaning that we can go through
00:29:25.530 --> 00:29:27.910
that system can withstand even higher
00:29:27.910 --> 00:29:31.300
elevated fire weather conditions, right?
00:29:31.300 --> 00:29:33.509
And so even steps that we're taking
00:29:33.509 --> 00:29:36.321
in the first year or two,
00:29:36.321 --> 00:29:40.185
even though it is a
three, four year plan
00:29:40.185 --> 00:29:44.470
each stage mitigates
and reduces the likelihood
00:29:44.470 --> 00:29:47.460
or the impact of a PSPS event, right?
00:29:47.460 --> 00:29:51.090
And as we add reclosers
out each of these directions
00:29:51.090 --> 00:29:54.870
from the downtown, they
to allow us to sectionalize
00:29:54.870 --> 00:29:56.800
what areas would be impacted,
00:29:56.800 --> 00:30:00.993
which customers would be
impacted by a possible PSPS event.
00:30:02.500 --> 00:30:06.017
Asset inspections are also a
key component of preparedness.
00:30:06.017 --> 00:30:08.817
And so in these areas where we go out
00:30:08.817 --> 00:30:10.710
and make sure we do an annual
visual assurance inspection,
00:30:10.710 --> 00:30:13.190
we patrol the line, note any conditions,
00:30:13.190 --> 00:30:15.130
and if any conditions are found,
00:30:15.130 --> 00:30:17.853
they are corrected on
an accelerated timeline.
00:30:18.937 --> 00:30:22.280
IR inspections are scheduled
for the transmission lines
00:30:22.280 --> 00:30:26.270
through the PSPS areas or
the FHC eight tier three areas.
00:30:26.270 --> 00:30:28.390
We conduct these infrared inspections
00:30:28.390 --> 00:30:31.280
when the loading on the
transmission line is at peak
00:30:31.280 --> 00:30:35.860
to make sure that if
there are any issues
00:30:35.860 --> 00:30:37.480
that highlights them the most
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:40.630
during those heavier
lifted times of the year.
00:30:40.630 --> 00:30:43.090
So based on that forecast,
that loading of the lines,
00:30:43.090 --> 00:30:45.486
and we'd divide that
into three flights a year,
00:30:45.486 --> 00:30:48.850
April, July in December,
just based on the loading.
00:30:48.850 --> 00:30:50.800
So the first two that
have been accomplished
00:30:50.800 --> 00:30:54.350
and in December, we'll
accomplish the third IR flight
00:30:54.350 --> 00:30:56.450
for the transmission
lines in these areas.
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:01.063
All right, next slide please.
00:31:02.330 --> 00:31:04.490
Allen, can
I ask a question?
00:31:04.490 --> 00:31:07.250
And it looks like you
might be getting into.
00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:09.023
This is Caroline from OEIS.
00:31:10.420 --> 00:31:14.290
In the vegetation management,
as well as the grid hardening.
00:31:14.290 --> 00:31:15.443
And if you're gonna get to
this later in the slide deck,
00:31:15.443 --> 00:31:17.350
you can just say, you're
gonna answer it later,
00:31:17.350 --> 00:31:21.040
but can you walk us through
how those improvements
00:31:21.040 --> 00:31:23.850
change the threshold you've
referred to a couple of times
00:31:23.850 --> 00:31:26.100
that it would change the threshold
00:31:26.100 --> 00:31:30.400
of when you would have to call up PSPS
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:32.122
in your decision making.
00:31:32.122 --> 00:31:33.820
Are you gonna get to that later?
00:31:33.820 --> 00:31:36.080
Or can you speak
to that a little bit now?
00:31:36.080 --> 00:31:38.310
Well, that's a great
segue for the, yeah.
00:31:38.310 --> 00:31:40.350
The slide I was about to touch on.
00:31:40.350 --> 00:31:43.000
So let's go through how those changes
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:45.250
would impact the decision making
00:31:45.250 --> 00:31:47.593
for what's leading up to a PSPS.
00:31:49.632 --> 00:31:51.720
So yeah, let me go through this
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:54.016
and see if I don't answer that question.
00:31:54.016 --> 00:31:56.150
And then if not hold me to it
00:31:56.150 --> 00:31:58.140
and let me make sure I answer it.
00:31:58.140 --> 00:32:00.070
Because while that grid hardening
00:32:00.070 --> 00:32:04.290
is a long-term mitigation
strategy in the short term
00:32:04.290 --> 00:32:06.220
that public safety power shutoff
00:32:06.220 --> 00:32:08.520
is available tool and totally understood
00:32:08.520 --> 00:32:10.380
as a measure of last resort
00:32:10.380 --> 00:32:12.060
is when it would want to be used
00:32:12.060 --> 00:32:14.990
in extreme fire weather conditions.
00:32:14.990 --> 00:32:17.920
And the decision-making
for public safety power shutoff
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:19.900
has a number of inputs
00:32:19.900 --> 00:32:23.720
as the conditions for a
geographic area are evaluated
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:27.080
and shown on the slide
there in the bottom half
00:32:27.080 --> 00:32:31.416
are the difference, fire weather
indexes they've been used
00:32:31.416 --> 00:32:33.740
across the various utilities.
00:32:33.740 --> 00:32:35.440
These are the inputs that we look at
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:38.940
from the Fosberg and KBDI
and vapor pressure deficit
00:32:38.940 --> 00:32:40.823
as these change in the areas.
00:32:40.823 --> 00:32:44.360
And then you couple that dry fuel
00:32:44.360 --> 00:32:45.847
kind of drought weather conditions,
00:32:45.847 --> 00:32:50.010
and couple that with wind
speeds and the wind direction
00:32:50.010 --> 00:32:53.180
to decide whether or not
as those elevate action
00:32:53.180 --> 00:32:54.673
needs to take place.
00:32:55.829 --> 00:32:59.990
And it's not just a mathematical formula
00:32:59.990 --> 00:33:02.620
of a certain threshold
that we use universally
00:33:02.620 --> 00:33:04.420
across all our areas.
00:33:04.420 --> 00:33:06.180
By looking back at history,
00:33:06.180 --> 00:33:08.670
we've been able to see
for each of these circuits
00:33:08.670 --> 00:33:13.620
and even sections of the
circuits under what wind conditions
00:33:13.620 --> 00:33:15.900
have outages occurred in the past.
00:33:15.900 --> 00:33:19.450
So on some circuits that might
be a 35 mile per hour winds
00:33:19.450 --> 00:33:20.680
where outages occurred.
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:24.660
And on another circuit, and
another section of that circuit,
00:33:24.660 --> 00:33:27.400
it might be able to go up to
40, 45 mile per hour winds
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.860
before outages occur on the system.
00:33:30.860 --> 00:33:34.343
And so by understanding
that and getting more granular,
00:33:35.620 --> 00:33:39.400
the thresholds is very
unique to the individual circuits
00:33:40.280 --> 00:33:43.440
in areas on whether
or not it's elevating
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:47.020
through this PSPS
decision-making framework.
00:33:47.020 --> 00:33:50.330
So the question of, so then
as we do covered conductor,
00:33:50.330 --> 00:33:54.120
then yes, for that area,
that circuit, with that in mind,
00:33:54.120 --> 00:33:56.787
we would know it can go up higher
00:33:56.787 --> 00:33:59.470
than what it previously
was able to, right?
00:33:59.470 --> 00:34:01.310
So, whereas that circuit,
we might say, oh, well,
00:34:01.310 --> 00:34:03.720
traditionally we saw
outages at 35 miles per hour.
00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:06.780
You know, now we know
what the cover conductor,
00:34:06.780 --> 00:34:07.800
it can go above that.
00:34:07.800 --> 00:34:11.200
And so that is uniquely
taken into the decision-making
00:34:11.200 --> 00:34:13.023
for that circuit, all right?
00:34:14.170 --> 00:34:18.127
Also while the environmental
inputs are considered
00:34:18.127 --> 00:34:20.850
in the wind conditions weather
00:34:20.850 --> 00:34:22.630
it is also the condition of the system.
00:34:22.630 --> 00:34:25.980
So part of this decision making
process is also reaching out
00:34:25.980 --> 00:34:28.840
and doing an inspection.
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:32.107
One, when was the last
vegetation inspection?
00:34:32.107 --> 00:34:35.760
When was the last cycle
trimming conducted?
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.990
What conditions exist?
What is the hazard tree?
00:34:38.990 --> 00:34:40.240
What are the known conditions?
00:34:40.240 --> 00:34:42.650
That all goes into the
decision making as well.
00:34:42.650 --> 00:34:45.910
So that we know that that
circuit was just inspected.
00:34:45.910 --> 00:34:48.410
Vegetation management
was just completed.
00:34:48.410 --> 00:34:51.140
We have a better feel
about what the impacts
00:34:51.140 --> 00:34:53.850
under certain weather conditions.
00:34:53.850 --> 00:34:55.980
So what should that threshold be,
00:34:55.980 --> 00:34:58.000
is all taken into consideration.
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.150
It makes it hard then for the
decision-making framework
00:35:00.150 --> 00:35:02.090
to be expressed as like a formula,
00:35:02.090 --> 00:35:04.203
because we're taking
all of this information in
00:35:04.203 --> 00:35:05.980
very unique to a circuit,
00:35:05.980 --> 00:35:09.020
very unique to its specific
conditions at that time
00:35:09.020 --> 00:35:13.590
and making a decision
as we monitor and watch it
00:35:13.590 --> 00:35:16.023
through this flow
chart as it elevates that.
00:35:18.085 --> 00:35:21.470
Also incorporated into this
decision-making framework
00:35:21.470 --> 00:35:23.800
is reaching out to
others beyond specific,
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:28.710
or we reach out to other
emergency agencies in the community
00:35:28.710 --> 00:35:31.707
and ask, "What are they
experiencing right now?"
00:35:31.707 --> 00:35:35.400
"What are conditions,
from their perspective?"
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:40.132
Which might be an
active fire is already being
00:35:40.132 --> 00:35:42.152
responded to right now.
00:35:42.152 --> 00:35:47.152
And that a PSPS situation could
make the community response,
00:35:48.950 --> 00:35:49.783
could hamper it, right?
00:35:49.783 --> 00:35:50.950
It could make it worse.
00:35:50.950 --> 00:35:53.930
And so we need that feedback
to make sure we understand
00:35:53.930 --> 00:35:56.700
that we are actually reducing
risk and not creating risk.
00:35:56.700 --> 00:36:00.230
And we only accomplish
that by reaching out
00:36:00.230 --> 00:36:03.970
as part of the PSPS
decision-making framework
00:36:03.970 --> 00:36:07.000
in incorporating all that information.
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:10.422
At the end of the day, it
is the utility that decides
00:36:10.422 --> 00:36:11.880
whether or not a PSPS will occur,
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:14.100
but we don't make that
decision in a vacuum.
00:36:14.100 --> 00:36:15.670
And so we wanna collaborate with others.
00:36:15.670 --> 00:36:18.730
We wanna understand what
other agencies are seeing,
00:36:18.730 --> 00:36:20.130
let them know what we're seeing
00:36:20.130 --> 00:36:21.887
and what action we are taking.
00:36:21.887 --> 00:36:25.640
And so that means advanced notifications
00:36:25.640 --> 00:36:27.790
to these agencies and our customers.
00:36:27.790 --> 00:36:31.090
If we're looking at, if it's
elevating up to a PSPS watch,
00:36:31.090 --> 00:36:34.280
a PSPS activation is being forecasted.
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:36.980
Then that kicks off the
72 hour notifications,
00:36:36.980 --> 00:36:38.500
48 hour notifications,
00:36:38.500 --> 00:36:42.530
where we started doing
outbound calling to our customers
00:36:42.530 --> 00:36:46.648
and personal phone calls to
our medical baseline customers,
00:36:46.648 --> 00:36:49.712
AFN notifications,
00:36:49.712 --> 00:36:53.300
there's a whole time's
notification process
00:36:53.300 --> 00:36:56.723
as we get closer to an
actual PSPS watch or event.
00:36:58.837 --> 00:37:01.037
(indistinct)
00:37:01.037 --> 00:37:03.350
Caroline, is that
getting to your question
00:37:03.350 --> 00:37:04.783
was guarding the threshold?
00:37:06.300 --> 00:37:08.303
Well, it sounds like if I
understand your Allen correctly,
00:37:08.303 --> 00:37:11.770
that it's a circuit
by circuit threshold,
00:37:11.770 --> 00:37:15.280
so therefore the
numbers could vary widely.
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:16.480
Is that correct?
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:17.313
Correct.
00:37:17.313 --> 00:37:20.393
Because absolutely because
in our journey to make sure
00:37:20.393 --> 00:37:23.570
that we're not impacting
customers unnecessarily
00:37:23.570 --> 00:37:24.900
in certain areas of the circuit
00:37:24.900 --> 00:37:26.800
that can withstand higher winds,
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:30.740
we wanted to move away
from a universal threshold
00:37:30.740 --> 00:37:34.080
because certain circuits and conditions
00:37:34.080 --> 00:37:37.283
allow us to be more surgical.
00:37:38.730 --> 00:37:40.330
So, and if you don't
have the detail here
00:37:40.330 --> 00:37:42.330
in this presentation, we
can do it as a follow-up,
00:37:42.330 --> 00:37:46.180
but it would be, I would
like to understand better
00:37:46.180 --> 00:37:49.360
the range of the thresholds
and how those are changing
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:51.403
based on the mitigation efforts
00:37:51.403 --> 00:37:54.262
that you presented on the other slides.
00:37:54.262 --> 00:37:55.095
Yeah.
00:37:56.270 --> 00:37:58.923
To verify other
question as well,
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:04.000
of all of the considerations
that you have to make,
00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:05.643
and you've detailed them here.
00:38:07.167 --> 00:38:08.520
How do you...
00:38:08.520 --> 00:38:11.160
What kind of consideration do you give
00:38:11.160 --> 00:38:15.780
to the health and welfare of the people
00:38:15.780 --> 00:38:20.270
and the safety of the
people who will be going,
00:38:20.270 --> 00:38:21.593
who will be de-energized?
00:38:23.110 --> 00:38:28.020
How do you factor that in that, I mean,
00:38:28.020 --> 00:38:32.210
obviously the safety of the
system and the hardening
00:38:32.210 --> 00:38:35.290
and the mitigation plans,
but what about the people?
00:38:35.290 --> 00:38:36.123
What about the people
00:38:36.123 --> 00:38:37.970
who are actually going
to be de-energized?
00:38:37.970 --> 00:38:41.700
I mean, you've mentioned
your, how, how you,
00:38:41.700 --> 00:38:43.820
by, by our guidelines,
00:38:43.820 --> 00:38:46.430
you must do the notification properly,
00:38:46.430 --> 00:38:51.430
but our guidelines also call
for consideration of the safety
00:38:52.710 --> 00:38:54.640
and the health and welfare of the people
00:38:54.640 --> 00:38:55.920
who will be de-energized.
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:59.250
'Cause it is a safety,
it's a terrible safety issue.
00:38:59.250 --> 00:39:00.083
Right.
00:39:00.083 --> 00:39:01.910
Yeah, thank you for the question
00:39:01.910 --> 00:39:05.620
and that kind of clarification
of how we view that.
00:39:05.620 --> 00:39:07.390
And we'll get into some of the slides
00:39:07.390 --> 00:39:10.760
that look at well identification
of vulnerable customers.
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:12.040
So then you know all right,
00:39:12.040 --> 00:39:14.470
what a community resource
centers are we providing?
00:39:14.470 --> 00:39:16.300
What services are we providing for them?
00:39:16.300 --> 00:39:18.350
What's the backup generation.
00:39:18.350 --> 00:39:19.410
So I'll touch on that
00:39:19.410 --> 00:39:21.493
in some of these future slides as well.
00:39:22.560 --> 00:39:25.440
And I also view that as
part of our reaching out
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:26.920
to local emergency partners
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:29.920
and identification of vulnerable
customers ahead of time
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:31.000
and identification
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.340
of our critical
infrastructure ahead of time
00:39:33.340 --> 00:39:35.590
to fully understand that impact
00:39:35.590 --> 00:39:37.180
to our customers in these areas.
00:39:37.180 --> 00:39:39.550
And that's all part of
that tabletop exercise
00:39:39.550 --> 00:39:40.470
and that preparedness.
00:39:40.470 --> 00:39:43.590
So yes, very much a part of a process.
00:39:43.590 --> 00:39:45.000
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:46.310
Well, I look forward to,
00:39:46.310 --> 00:39:48.460
to when we get to that
part in the presentation.
00:39:48.460 --> 00:39:49.867
Thank you.
00:39:49.867 --> 00:39:50.700
All right. Thank you.
00:39:50.700 --> 00:39:52.180
Allen, this is
Daniel from Cal Fire.
00:39:52.180 --> 00:39:54.050
If I could just ask at this point,
00:39:54.050 --> 00:39:56.930
you had mentioned related
to some of the hardening work
00:39:56.930 --> 00:39:58.190
that you're doing
00:39:58.190 --> 00:40:01.150
and you spoke to detecting
ground impedance faults.
00:40:01.150 --> 00:40:03.490
Can you talk about any additional
00:40:03.490 --> 00:40:06.040
or new emerging technologies
that you may be looking at,
00:40:06.040 --> 00:40:08.950
like distribution fault
anticipation technology
00:40:08.950 --> 00:40:11.850
that your company might be bringing
00:40:11.850 --> 00:40:14.860
into the hardening topic?
00:40:14.860 --> 00:40:17.050
Yeah, thank you
for that question,
00:40:17.050 --> 00:40:18.380
because that is an exciting
00:40:18.380 --> 00:40:20.160
kind of advancement of technology
00:40:20.160 --> 00:40:22.130
in that way form analytics
00:40:22.130 --> 00:40:25.330
and almost preemptive identification
00:40:25.330 --> 00:40:27.090
of any issues out on the line.
00:40:27.090 --> 00:40:29.810
So in our Weed California area,
00:40:29.810 --> 00:40:32.020
inside that substation there,
00:40:32.020 --> 00:40:33.860
we've actually just in
the last couple of months
00:40:33.860 --> 00:40:36.050
installed the two of these relays
00:40:36.050 --> 00:40:38.370
that do that wave form analytics.
00:40:38.370 --> 00:40:39.910
We're able to look at that wave form
00:40:39.910 --> 00:40:43.640
and just based on what we can see there,
00:40:43.640 --> 00:40:46.830
it can identify different
types of interference
00:40:46.830 --> 00:40:49.530
and different signatures
of the wave form
00:40:49.530 --> 00:40:52.060
that can tell us to go look
for things out on the line,
00:40:52.060 --> 00:40:54.215
even though it didn't
create a fault yet, right?
00:40:54.215 --> 00:40:57.480
And so that allows
us to be very proactive
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:01.000
and not wait for the
outage or the ignition event.
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:02.800
And so I think that that is an exciting
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:04.120
advancement in technology.
00:41:04.120 --> 00:41:05.530
And we do have those relays
00:41:05.530 --> 00:41:07.797
installed you weed substation area.
00:41:07.797 --> 00:41:10.914
And so we're looking to learn from that.
00:41:10.914 --> 00:41:11.790
Thank you.
00:41:11.790 --> 00:41:12.623
Right.
00:41:12.623 --> 00:41:14.390
I think I heard that it
wasn't in the presentation,
00:41:14.390 --> 00:41:15.590
but I think I heard you say
00:41:15.590 --> 00:41:19.750
that you have hearted
60% of your goal this year.
00:41:19.750 --> 00:41:20.710
It just wanted to correct
00:41:20.710 --> 00:41:24.380
that that's for your goal
this year, the 60% number?
00:41:24.380 --> 00:41:27.570
60% was referring to our
vegetation management program
00:41:27.570 --> 00:41:31.893
is 60% yep through the
annual trimming and inspection.
00:41:33.290 --> 00:41:35.410
And we're already
here in August,
00:41:35.410 --> 00:41:38.800
as I mentioned at the beginning,
you have red flag warnings.
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:41.850
Do you feel like you're
gonna be able to accomplish
00:41:41.850 --> 00:41:43.000
this year's goal
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.943
despite the fact that we're
into the peak fire season now?
00:41:47.040 --> 00:41:48.570
Yeah. Yep.
00:41:48.570 --> 00:41:50.810
We are forecasting to be on track
00:41:50.810 --> 00:41:53.160
and be able to accomplish our 2021
00:41:53.160 --> 00:41:54.920
vegetation management program.
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:57.140
It was prioritized in such a fashion
00:41:57.140 --> 00:41:59.250
to make sure we accomplish
00:41:59.250 --> 00:42:02.440
like say our tier three
vegetation management program
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:04.630
before the tier two
and before the non tier
00:42:05.580 --> 00:42:08.910
to make sure that if
something was at risk,
00:42:08.910 --> 00:42:10.470
it would be outside of this
00:42:10.470 --> 00:42:14.240
already identified higher
elevated fire weather areas.
00:42:14.240 --> 00:42:15.350
So.
00:42:15.350 --> 00:42:17.750
Great. Thanks for
expanding on that.
00:42:17.750 --> 00:42:18.583
Yeah.
00:42:20.090 --> 00:42:21.540
All right. Next slide please.
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:25.193
All right.
00:42:25.193 --> 00:42:27.140
And if some of those
questions brought about
00:42:27.140 --> 00:42:30.290
let's talk about the
community resource centers.
00:42:30.290 --> 00:42:31.810
So in the event that a public safety
00:42:31.810 --> 00:42:33.580
power shut off does occur
00:42:33.580 --> 00:42:35.840
specific or has identified locations
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:37.330
where community resource centers
00:42:37.330 --> 00:42:41.150
or CRC will be opened in those areas.
00:42:41.150 --> 00:42:43.270
So you can see on that map there
00:42:43.270 --> 00:42:46.560
and visualize the tier three
area that was showing earlier
00:42:46.560 --> 00:42:48.840
subdivided into those five zones.
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:53.310
And then those stars are
where we pre-identified locations,
00:42:53.310 --> 00:42:56.880
where we can open up a community
resource center preferences
00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:01.200
to have a physical established facility
00:43:03.080 --> 00:43:04.580
that we can open up a CRC.
00:43:04.580 --> 00:43:05.920
So we've identified those
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:07.820
in collaboration with local communities
00:43:07.820 --> 00:43:10.110
on where would make the most sense
00:43:10.110 --> 00:43:12.010
and making sure that the distance
00:43:12.010 --> 00:43:15.258
between the customers
being impacted and the CRC
00:43:15.258 --> 00:43:16.770
is 10 to 20 miles.
00:43:16.770 --> 00:43:19.680
To make sure they're not too
far away from the customers
00:43:19.680 --> 00:43:21.133
that we're impacting.
00:43:23.580 --> 00:43:24.960
So you can see the services there
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:27.673
that are provided at the
community resource centers.
00:43:29.250 --> 00:43:33.190
And backup locations
are identified as well.
00:43:33.190 --> 00:43:35.250
Our goal is to have both
a primary and backup
00:43:35.250 --> 00:43:36.610
in each of these locations.
00:43:36.610 --> 00:43:40.300
But in the event that even
beyond those locations,
00:43:40.300 --> 00:43:43.480
Pacific Corp does have
contracts with vendors
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:47.650
that we can deploy and
establish a temporary CRC
00:43:47.650 --> 00:43:51.230
in any location, even if a
fixed facility is not available
00:43:51.230 --> 00:43:52.580
for it for any reason.
00:43:52.580 --> 00:43:54.923
So we have that capability as well.
00:43:56.610 --> 00:43:58.970
And I should touch on
that given the pandemic
00:43:58.970 --> 00:44:01.690
and COVID protocols
can be adhered to as well
00:44:01.690 --> 00:44:03.310
as we open up the CRC.
00:44:03.310 --> 00:44:06.550
So that planning is in
place to make sure that
00:44:06.550 --> 00:44:09.560
that would be conducted
under current guidelines
00:44:09.560 --> 00:44:11.823
as well if a CRC was open.
00:44:17.090 --> 00:44:18.590
All right, next slide, please.
00:44:20.470 --> 00:44:21.880
Now let's touch on.
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:23.437
I'm sorry.
00:44:23.437 --> 00:44:27.660
I was asked to ask about the CRC
00:44:27.660 --> 00:44:32.320
on any of the tribal lands in this area?
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:33.990
I don't see that.
00:44:33.990 --> 00:44:38.890
Happy Camp is the closest
to the tribal lands there.
00:44:38.890 --> 00:44:41.823
And I don't, maybe
Justin can correct me.
00:44:42.863 --> 00:44:45.310
I don't, let's see it's at
the croup wellness centers,
00:44:45.310 --> 00:44:46.820
the backup one and Happy Camp.
00:44:46.820 --> 00:44:50.840
Sorry, if you go back to two slides.
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:51.673
Sorry.
00:44:57.220 --> 00:44:59.573
There we go, in that table.
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:05.590
Let's see the CRC
identified the in Happy Camp,
00:45:05.590 --> 00:45:09.430
the Karuk Wellness Center as backup area
00:45:09.430 --> 00:45:11.813
in Weed Karuk Wellness Center in Yreka.
00:45:12.900 --> 00:45:15.490
So it is in conjunction with the tribes
00:45:15.490 --> 00:45:17.470
trying to identify
good locations as well.
00:45:17.470 --> 00:45:18.700
Yeah. Okay.
00:45:18.700 --> 00:45:21.530
I see that in the smaller
and the CRC identified.
00:45:21.530 --> 00:45:22.363
Okay.
00:45:22.363 --> 00:45:23.220
Thank you.
00:45:23.220 --> 00:45:24.097
Yeah.
00:45:24.097 --> 00:45:25.173
I have a quick question.
00:45:26.200 --> 00:45:29.089
This is mark on these,
on your experience.
00:45:29.089 --> 00:45:31.350
I know you you've
done, I think one PSPS,
00:45:31.350 --> 00:45:36.350
but I mean, how have
these CRCs operated?
00:45:36.540 --> 00:45:38.850
Have they been successful?
00:45:38.850 --> 00:45:40.050
Have you gotten feedback?
00:45:40.050 --> 00:45:44.547
What was the uptake at these
centers utilized adequately
00:45:46.050 --> 00:45:48.100
do you have some
sort of metrics on that?
00:45:49.515 --> 00:45:51.140
Thank you for that question,
00:45:51.140 --> 00:45:55.690
because we do not have
experience with setting up a CRC.
00:45:55.690 --> 00:45:57.730
So this is all pre-planning.
00:45:57.730 --> 00:46:01.080
The one PSPS we had was a
short duration, eight, 10 hours.
00:46:01.080 --> 00:46:03.970
And so just for in within the day,
00:46:03.970 --> 00:46:07.750
so a CRC was not established
and there was already CRCs
00:46:07.750 --> 00:46:10.130
for other active fires
that were available
00:46:10.130 --> 00:46:12.420
if somebody did actually need one.
00:46:12.420 --> 00:46:14.500
So Pacific Corp didn't
need to set one up
00:46:14.500 --> 00:46:17.493
for the PSPS that we
conducted last year.
00:46:19.300 --> 00:46:21.440
So we don't have those learnings.
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:24.740
So we would have to be
collaboration with other utilities
00:46:24.740 --> 00:46:27.027
and others who have
set these up to understand
00:46:27.027 --> 00:46:30.210
the planning for what
it would look like for us.
00:46:30.210 --> 00:46:32.070
I appreciate that.
00:46:32.070 --> 00:46:35.368
I would maybe suggest
that would be an area
00:46:35.368 --> 00:46:39.265
where you may wanna
do a exercise to actually,
00:46:39.265 --> 00:46:42.130
maybe do a functional
exercise of setting one up
00:46:42.130 --> 00:46:43.630
and running through it.
00:46:43.630 --> 00:46:46.533
And so that you know,
00:46:47.464 --> 00:46:50.233
one thing about planning
and talking about it.
00:46:50.233 --> 00:46:53.159
Another thing about
actually running it to the mill
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:56.500
and then seeing where
the gaps and seams are.
00:46:56.500 --> 00:47:00.230
So anyway, we'd be happy
to certainly work with you
00:47:00.230 --> 00:47:04.060
on helping you with that
exercise if you're interested.
00:47:04.060 --> 00:47:04.893
Thank you.
00:47:04.893 --> 00:47:06.526
Yes, that would be great.
00:47:06.526 --> 00:47:08.743
Allen, can I follow
up on Mark's question?
00:47:09.770 --> 00:47:11.100
Did...
00:47:11.100 --> 00:47:16.100
Has Pacific Corp
initiated PSPS in Oregon?
00:47:17.782 --> 00:47:21.983
In last year or year before,
did you set up PSPS there?
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.750
We have not conducted
a PSPS in Oregon
00:47:25.750 --> 00:47:28.310
or any other service
territory, California.
00:47:28.310 --> 00:47:29.496
Yeah.
00:47:29.496 --> 00:47:32.230
And the one was the only
one we've done to date.
00:47:32.230 --> 00:47:36.450
I know some other
utility did do it in Oregon.
00:47:36.450 --> 00:47:39.090
I was just curious if
you'd had that experience.
00:47:39.090 --> 00:47:40.269
Thank you.
00:47:40.269 --> 00:47:41.433
Mm-hmm.
00:47:41.433 --> 00:47:45.010
And Allen, it's generally
my question about
00:47:46.340 --> 00:47:49.500
in your pre-planning,
do you anticipate that
00:47:49.500 --> 00:47:52.720
you might have accessing
functional need customers
00:47:52.720 --> 00:47:54.920
or medical baseline customers,
00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:58.510
customers who don't have
access to transportation
00:47:58.510 --> 00:48:03.387
and may need to help
get to the resource center?
00:48:04.420 --> 00:48:05.253
Yeah.
00:48:05.253 --> 00:48:07.180
So why don't we
transition to the next slide?
00:48:07.180 --> 00:48:08.013
Oh, sorry.
00:48:08.013 --> 00:48:08.846
You're on that slide.
00:48:08.846 --> 00:48:09.918
I'll move to the next slide.
00:48:09.918 --> 00:48:13.040
Because yes,
00:48:13.040 --> 00:48:17.318
we are looking to expand
our program to address.
00:48:17.318 --> 00:48:20.680
It was identified as a gap
at our last public meeting
00:48:20.680 --> 00:48:22.860
when we were looking
at vulnerable customers,
00:48:22.860 --> 00:48:27.220
working with them, AFN, what
we're doing for battery backup.
00:48:27.220 --> 00:48:29.390
And so we're looking
to expand that program,
00:48:29.390 --> 00:48:34.040
learning from others and
expanding our program as well.
00:48:34.040 --> 00:48:34.873
Looking for that,
00:48:34.873 --> 00:48:38.340
to include for this medical
baseline customers
00:48:38.340 --> 00:48:42.890
and AFN transportation
options as well to the CRC.
00:48:42.890 --> 00:48:46.452
So, yes, we are looking to expand that
00:48:46.452 --> 00:48:48.260
and be able to provide that offering
00:48:49.505 --> 00:48:52.665
in addition to these other
areas where we looked.
00:48:52.665 --> 00:48:53.498
What is the timeframe for that?
00:48:53.498 --> 00:48:55.740
Sorry for interrupting, but
what is your timeframe?
00:48:55.740 --> 00:48:59.440
If you're looking for that
expansion and looking,
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:04.143
it says all of this is due in
2021, and it's underdeveloped.
00:49:05.240 --> 00:49:08.170
The transportation
and battery backup
00:49:08.170 --> 00:49:12.720
for our medical baseline
customers in California.
00:49:12.720 --> 00:49:16.280
It's full speed ahead
that we would want this
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:20.240
in the next month before
it would be needed, right?
00:49:20.240 --> 00:49:21.450
That's the timeline
00:49:21.450 --> 00:49:23.590
for what we're looking
for those options.
00:49:23.590 --> 00:49:28.590
The larger battery or generator
backup for all AFN customers
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:35.110
or any customer in these
areas and the rebate program.
00:49:35.110 --> 00:49:36.310
That's a longer-term effort
00:49:36.310 --> 00:49:39.850
realizing we can't turn that
around in that same timeframe,
00:49:39.850 --> 00:49:43.270
but for that smaller subset
of medical baseline customers
00:49:43.270 --> 00:49:45.500
and expanding our offerings to them,
00:49:45.500 --> 00:49:46.963
it's a quick turnaround.
00:49:48.810 --> 00:49:51.840
I just would say and
I don't know if you had
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:56.040
any of your company
representatives listening in
00:49:56.040 --> 00:49:57.410
yesterday and the day before
00:49:57.410 --> 00:50:00.033
with the presentations
on the larger IOUs,
00:50:01.022 --> 00:50:05.060
but they have quite a bit
of experience in this area.
00:50:05.060 --> 00:50:10.060
And I would suggest that
perhaps you all talk with them
00:50:11.798 --> 00:50:15.200
and do some learning
from their experience
00:50:15.200 --> 00:50:18.980
in not only how they
identify the customers
00:50:18.980 --> 00:50:23.980
who are in need of
battery at how they deploy it
00:50:24.790 --> 00:50:29.790
and their information and
education of the customers
00:50:30.080 --> 00:50:32.290
and how these are used.
00:50:32.290 --> 00:50:36.110
So I think it would be very appropriate
00:50:36.110 --> 00:50:40.587
for you to contact one of the
other IOUs, perhaps PG&E
00:50:43.940 --> 00:50:48.230
they're deploying and have
for the last couple of years.
00:50:48.230 --> 00:50:50.760
They not as much as
we would like them to,
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:53.410
but they're deploying
thousands of batteries.
00:50:53.410 --> 00:50:54.526
Right.
00:50:54.526 --> 00:50:57.130
(indistinct cross talk)
00:50:57.130 --> 00:50:58.210
Yeah. Thank you for that.
00:50:58.210 --> 00:50:59.325
Yeah.
00:50:59.325 --> 00:51:00.158
We don't wanna create the wheel
00:51:00.158 --> 00:51:03.310
we wanna build off of other
successes of their programs
00:51:03.310 --> 00:51:04.690
and model the same.
00:51:04.690 --> 00:51:06.270
So, absolutely.
00:51:06.270 --> 00:51:07.103
Yeah.
00:51:11.510 --> 00:51:12.343
All right.
00:51:12.343 --> 00:51:14.450
So that's the expansion
in the community resilience
00:51:14.450 --> 00:51:17.737
and the battery backup generators
00:51:17.737 --> 00:51:20.860
for these moldable customers.
00:51:20.860 --> 00:51:23.510
I guess also noted on
this slide is in the CRC
00:51:23.510 --> 00:51:28.470
is also providing the EDB
charging capability as well.
00:51:28.470 --> 00:51:32.193
So making that available
to customers in these areas.
00:51:35.570 --> 00:51:36.403
Okay.
00:51:36.403 --> 00:51:37.236
Next slide please.
00:51:41.460 --> 00:51:42.293
All right.
00:51:42.293 --> 00:51:43.700
So a large component of a successful
00:51:43.700 --> 00:51:46.340
wildfire mitigation
plan is communicating
00:51:46.340 --> 00:51:49.340
and educating our customers
on what they can expect from us
00:51:49.340 --> 00:51:50.610
and what they can do
00:51:50.610 --> 00:51:54.040
to be prepared themselves
during these conditions.
00:51:54.040 --> 00:51:56.470
A customer survey
was conducted last year
00:51:56.470 --> 00:51:59.190
to help inform our outreach
00:51:59.190 --> 00:52:03.100
and communication campaigns
regarding wildfire safety.
00:52:03.100 --> 00:52:04.900
And so we'll look to continue
00:52:04.900 --> 00:52:08.350
for ways to enhance our messaging
00:52:08.350 --> 00:52:10.540
to these targeted vulnerable customers,
00:52:10.540 --> 00:52:13.930
and to provide them more
information about what to expect
00:52:15.070 --> 00:52:17.520
and emphasis will be
placed on communication
00:52:17.520 --> 00:52:20.630
and notification around PSPS events.
00:52:20.630 --> 00:52:22.580
Not just timely notifications,
00:52:22.580 --> 00:52:26.920
about ways to provide more context
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:30.380
about the potential of moving
from watch to PSPS event.
00:52:30.380 --> 00:52:33.880
That's a confusing transition
of trying to educate customers
00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:36.950
that we're watching and
the possibility of something,
00:52:36.950 --> 00:52:38.100
you know, four days out.
00:52:38.100 --> 00:52:40.817
And as that transitions to an event
00:52:40.817 --> 00:52:44.030
and an actual forecast
of the de-energization,
00:52:44.030 --> 00:52:45.870
and how do we make that clear
00:52:45.870 --> 00:52:49.320
as was noted in some
of the opening remarks,
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:52.750
we have evolved our PSPS website
00:52:52.750 --> 00:52:55.360
where customers can go on
there, type in their address,
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:59.360
see if they're in one of these
PSPS areas, see the status,
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:01.670
the forecast of the next seven days.
00:53:01.670 --> 00:53:04.870
If we anticipate a watch or an events
00:53:04.870 --> 00:53:07.230
and whether or not it's impacting them.
00:53:07.230 --> 00:53:10.420
We're looking to provide
even more information
00:53:10.420 --> 00:53:11.390
through this website
00:53:11.390 --> 00:53:14.360
as customers come to our
website to gain information
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:18.510
either how can they
be designated, an AFN,
00:53:18.510 --> 00:53:22.310
a medical baseline, what
can they do to be prepared?
00:53:22.310 --> 00:53:24.130
We're also evolving this website
00:53:24.130 --> 00:53:26.350
so that as we just talked
00:53:26.350 --> 00:53:29.600
about the hardening that's
going on over the long-term,
00:53:29.600 --> 00:53:33.230
these boundaries of a
PSPS are then dynamic.
00:53:33.230 --> 00:53:34.250
They're not static.
00:53:34.250 --> 00:53:35.640
Currently if you go to the web page,
00:53:35.640 --> 00:53:38.890
it's showing you the
five kind of static areas
00:53:38.890 --> 00:53:41.150
that our planning has identified.
00:53:41.150 --> 00:53:43.420
We understand that these
will now become dynamic
00:53:43.420 --> 00:53:45.420
and that we need to be
able to move that boundary,
00:53:45.420 --> 00:53:47.660
to really show customers
what we're anticipating
00:53:47.660 --> 00:53:51.810
the actual subset of those PSPS areas
00:53:51.810 --> 00:53:53.780
are what might be impacted.
00:53:53.780 --> 00:53:55.630
And so we're evolving that as well
00:53:55.630 --> 00:53:57.320
to make sure that we're really providing
00:53:57.320 --> 00:53:59.573
the latest information to our customers.
00:54:01.998 --> 00:54:03.623
All right, next slide, please.
00:54:05.190 --> 00:54:06.960
Allen, real quick question.
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:09.950
In your territory there are some areas
00:54:09.950 --> 00:54:14.950
that have either very low
broadband or no broadband at all.
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:20.280
And so are you communicating,
educating, out doing outreach
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:24.903
to those folks who don't
have access to the internet?
00:54:25.830 --> 00:54:27.360
You have a lot of rural areas
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:31.280
that are probably in
that category of lacking
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:33.653
the kind of broadband services
00:54:33.653 --> 00:54:36.360
that hopefully we will some
someday soon bring to them
00:54:38.430 --> 00:54:43.430
mailings and things, the old
fashioned way, the US mail.
00:54:44.040 --> 00:54:44.873
Exactly.
00:54:44.873 --> 00:54:46.810
It's that multi-pronged approach.
00:54:46.810 --> 00:54:50.660
We don't rely on just one
channel to reach our customers.
00:54:50.660 --> 00:54:55.660
So yes, there is the emails,
there are the social media,
00:54:56.400 --> 00:55:00.940
but there are the build inserts
and direct mailings to them
00:55:00.940 --> 00:55:02.910
to provide information as well.
00:55:02.910 --> 00:55:04.723
So, yep. It's on all fronts.
00:55:05.570 --> 00:55:06.500
Okay.
00:55:06.500 --> 00:55:07.660
Thank you.
00:55:07.660 --> 00:55:08.493
Yeah.
00:55:11.110 --> 00:55:12.240
Okay.
00:55:12.240 --> 00:55:13.200
And as we discussed,
00:55:13.200 --> 00:55:15.380
it's understood that
public safety power shutoff
00:55:15.380 --> 00:55:16.824
is that tool of last resort
00:55:16.824 --> 00:55:19.270
because of its impact to customers
00:55:19.270 --> 00:55:22.610
and their safety and the
impact of the communities.
00:55:22.610 --> 00:55:24.730
And we wanna make sure
we understand that impact
00:55:24.730 --> 00:55:26.950
and identify our vulnerable customers
00:55:28.273 --> 00:55:31.270
as is it an AFN or
medical baseline customer.
00:55:31.270 --> 00:55:35.240
And so some of what
we've already talked about
00:55:35.240 --> 00:55:36.350
is like these mailings.
00:55:36.350 --> 00:55:39.340
And so even within the care
program where we send out forms
00:55:39.340 --> 00:55:41.540
and direct mailings to
our residential customers
00:55:41.540 --> 00:55:45.031
and even master metered accounts,
00:55:45.031 --> 00:55:47.590
so that we try to get
beyond that master metered
00:55:47.590 --> 00:55:49.090
and into the individuals
00:55:49.090 --> 00:55:53.230
that live behind that meter information.
00:55:53.230 --> 00:55:55.880
So it's this direct mailing,
how do they sign up?
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:58.366
Where do they get more information
00:55:58.366 --> 00:56:01.340
about identifying in
signing up as an AFN
00:56:01.340 --> 00:56:04.330
or medical baseline so that
they can get into these programs
00:56:04.330 --> 00:56:06.300
so they can get these notifications
00:56:06.300 --> 00:56:07.530
so that we can reach out to them
00:56:07.530 --> 00:56:11.963
and talk about battery
backup if they qualify for that.
00:56:13.326 --> 00:56:15.400
And so it's all these
different outreaches.
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:17.870
Shown in the lower right,
is our medical baseline
00:56:17.870 --> 00:56:20.390
for a California service territory.
00:56:20.390 --> 00:56:24.560
You see about 126 and 28 of those
00:56:24.560 --> 00:56:27.210
are in those designated PSPS areas,
00:56:27.210 --> 00:56:29.550
just to give you a few of the numbers.
00:56:29.550 --> 00:56:31.920
And so this is a personal outreach
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:34.730
to those 28 medical baseline customers.
00:56:34.730 --> 00:56:39.160
If whichever one of those 28
are in an impacted PSPS area
00:56:39.160 --> 00:56:41.930
to make sure that they are taken care of
00:56:43.306 --> 00:56:45.243
and that they are aware of any impacts.
00:56:46.591 --> 00:56:48.600
So Allen, do you
have an estimate
00:56:48.600 --> 00:56:51.510
of how many AFN customers you have
00:56:51.510 --> 00:56:54.003
in your high wildfire zones?
00:56:58.426 --> 00:57:01.480
In California, it's this 126,
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:04.780
maybe I didn't quite
understand the question.
00:57:04.780 --> 00:57:09.780
Medical baseline,
you've got 126 this year,
00:57:10.140 --> 00:57:13.120
but how about when your
access and social needs,
00:57:13.120 --> 00:57:18.120
and that includes low-income
seniors, non-English speakers.
00:57:23.466 --> 00:57:25.523
Do you have an estimate of it?
00:57:26.490 --> 00:57:28.100
We have the number.
00:57:28.100 --> 00:57:32.420
I do not have it in front of
me, so I apologize for that,
00:57:32.420 --> 00:57:35.860
but it is tracked and
we have the number.
00:57:35.860 --> 00:57:39.230
And so maybe I'll ask
Melissa to chime in
00:57:39.230 --> 00:57:42.070
if she happens to know
that number off hand,
00:57:42.070 --> 00:57:44.960
but I apologize, I don't
have it in front of me.
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:46.196
Okay.
00:57:46.196 --> 00:57:47.806
Allen, this is Melissa.
00:57:47.806 --> 00:57:50.106
If you want me to, just
to pipe in real quick,
00:57:51.270 --> 00:57:55.060
we do have about 50 customers
00:57:55.060 --> 00:57:58.860
that are self identified as AFN
00:57:58.860 --> 00:58:03.103
in our tier three
high fire risk districts.
00:58:05.980 --> 00:58:07.030
Thank you, Melissa.
00:58:08.250 --> 00:58:09.350
Thank you.
00:58:12.690 --> 00:58:14.083
Okay, next slide please.
00:58:18.560 --> 00:58:22.563
So in addition to establishing
the vulnerable customers
00:58:25.267 --> 00:58:26.430
and our outreach to them,
00:58:26.430 --> 00:58:29.270
it's also a coordination
with other external agencies
00:58:29.270 --> 00:58:30.900
and specifically has expanded
00:58:30.900 --> 00:58:33.140
the emergency management department
00:58:33.140 --> 00:58:35.810
to increase our
collaboration coordination
00:58:35.810 --> 00:58:38.730
with these external
agencies and communities
00:58:38.730 --> 00:58:41.630
that are shown here on the slide.
00:58:41.630 --> 00:58:44.460
And so in the upper left,
we talked about this already,
00:58:44.460 --> 00:58:47.250
but the identification
of critical infrastructure,
00:58:47.250 --> 00:58:49.280
communication providers
and communication
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:52.410
is saying critical infrastructure
for the community,
00:58:52.410 --> 00:58:56.030
especially during an
emergency response event.
00:58:56.030 --> 00:58:59.760
And so this is us working with
the communication providers
00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:01.810
to understand their backup capabilities,
00:59:01.810 --> 00:59:05.730
to understand their locations
and within these PSPS
00:59:05.730 --> 00:59:09.771
or possible PSPS de-energized areas
00:59:09.771 --> 00:59:13.740
so that we can coordinate
that in the middle there
00:59:13.740 --> 00:59:15.960
and was talking about
at the last public meeting
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:17.560
is our collaboration with the tribes
00:59:17.560 --> 00:59:19.240
and wanting to increase that.
00:59:19.240 --> 00:59:21.230
And so now holding twice monthly
00:59:22.226 --> 00:59:24.526
and making sure that
we have good coordination
00:59:26.411 --> 00:59:28.426
and communication
about what the plans are
00:59:28.426 --> 00:59:29.510
and what their needs might be,
00:59:29.510 --> 00:59:33.500
and letting them know our
long-term plans system hardening
00:59:33.500 --> 00:59:38.500
in those areas and PSPS,
the CRC availability as well.
00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:42.660
So we've increased that
outreach and coordination.
00:59:42.660 --> 00:59:44.060
And then in the upper right,
00:59:44.900 --> 00:59:47.490
are kind of ongoing engagement
00:59:47.490 --> 00:59:49.140
with other public safety partners
00:59:49.140 --> 00:59:52.110
and being the tabletop
exercises and these counties,
00:59:52.110 --> 00:59:54.400
which were completed in May.
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:56.720
Just to make sure we're
all on the same page
00:59:56.720 --> 01:00:01.130
about what the process is,
what is the decision-making,
01:00:01.130 --> 01:00:03.720
what's the outreach,
what's the notification,
01:00:03.720 --> 01:00:05.633
and where are the areas of concern.
01:00:07.600 --> 01:00:09.710
Now, it's important
that this coordination
01:00:09.710 --> 01:00:12.770
with external agencies that
create the feedback loop, right?
01:00:12.770 --> 01:00:15.370
That informs the
planning and preparedness
01:00:15.370 --> 01:00:18.190
and where we can improve
in Pacific or is open to that.
01:00:18.190 --> 01:00:20.470
We're a continuous
improvement organization.
01:00:20.470 --> 01:00:22.010
We want that feedback.
01:00:22.010 --> 01:00:23.990
And so shown at the
bottom half of this slide
01:00:23.990 --> 01:00:27.000
is what we have noted so
far about what's going well
01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:30.287
and areas that we wanna
watch and are seeking to improve.
01:00:30.287 --> 01:00:32.180
And it's things we've
touched on already,
01:00:32.180 --> 01:00:36.320
whether it's our
communication with customers
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:41.320
that might not have the
same capabilities as others,
01:00:42.370 --> 01:00:44.340
as far as how to receive information,
01:00:44.340 --> 01:00:46.700
whether it's backup generation,
01:00:46.700 --> 01:00:49.040
these are areas we know
we need to continue to push on
01:00:49.040 --> 01:00:52.380
and continue to challenge
and find ways to expand
01:00:52.380 --> 01:00:55.090
and improve our offerings,
our communication,
01:00:55.090 --> 01:00:56.173
our coordination.
01:00:57.540 --> 01:01:01.000
But as noted in even in
some of the opening remarks,
01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:02.930
we have made progress,
01:01:02.930 --> 01:01:05.820
we have opened and
improved our communication
01:01:05.820 --> 01:01:08.020
and partnership and
things have gone well.
01:01:08.020 --> 01:01:09.740
And wherever we've received,
01:01:09.740 --> 01:01:12.150
feedback that we need to make a change.
01:01:12.150 --> 01:01:14.553
We look to address that quickly.
01:01:16.786 --> 01:01:19.806
Oh, and I would encourage you
01:01:19.806 --> 01:01:23.420
to follow what director
Ghilarducci suggested and having,
01:01:23.420 --> 01:01:26.640
I know you have had
the two tabletop exercises,
01:01:26.640 --> 01:01:30.650
but I think some actual
functional exercise
01:01:30.650 --> 01:01:33.470
would really benefit
you and your customers,
01:01:33.470 --> 01:01:36.600
particularly as he and others have noted
01:01:36.600 --> 01:01:40.740
that the CRCs are not
easily set up and easily run.
01:01:40.740 --> 01:01:42.890
And they're critical to the community
01:01:42.890 --> 01:01:45.450
when you do have a PSPS.
01:01:47.660 --> 01:01:49.520
Yeah. That is great feedback.
01:01:49.520 --> 01:01:52.163
And a great idea. So thank you.
01:01:53.429 --> 01:01:54.910
Allen, is mark again,
01:01:54.910 --> 01:01:58.950
just on these external agency
coordination engagement,
01:01:58.950 --> 01:02:02.853
how have you found
the external partners?
01:02:04.070 --> 01:02:05.810
Have they engaged with you on these?
01:02:05.810 --> 01:02:09.390
Do you have good
participation from public safety,
01:02:09.390 --> 01:02:12.193
from non-governmental organizations,
01:02:13.080 --> 01:02:15.980
faith-based organizations,
tribal community,
01:02:15.980 --> 01:02:17.900
is everybody coming
to the table for these
01:02:17.900 --> 01:02:22.570
and how has that whole
collaboration going?
01:02:22.570 --> 01:02:23.403
Yeah.
01:02:23.403 --> 01:02:24.236
Thank you for that question.
01:02:24.236 --> 01:02:27.130
I'm gonna ask Justin, our
director of emergency management
01:02:27.130 --> 01:02:28.290
is probably a better place
01:02:28.290 --> 01:02:31.500
to provide better color
around that and that response.
01:02:31.500 --> 01:02:34.220
So Justin, can you respond to that?
01:02:34.220 --> 01:02:35.700
Yep. Thanks Allen.
01:02:35.700 --> 01:02:36.680
And thanks for the question.
01:02:36.680 --> 01:02:40.700
I would say in short that
it's been really successful
01:02:40.700 --> 01:02:44.030
and just to reference the
two table top exercises
01:02:44.030 --> 01:02:46.780
on May 25th, we held
one in Siskiyou County
01:02:46.780 --> 01:02:48.640
and on the 27th in Del Norte,
01:02:48.640 --> 01:02:51.639
and we had really good
tribal representation
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:53.950
or state breaths from Cal Fire
01:02:53.950 --> 01:02:58.950
and our VOT partners in
local emergency management.
01:03:00.340 --> 01:03:04.830
So everyone's rallying
around the PSPS discussion
01:03:04.830 --> 01:03:09.360
and we are getting really,
really good, good feedback.
01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:11.680
And I will say just on the comment
01:03:11.680 --> 01:03:14.720
around setting up kind
of a functional exercise
01:03:14.720 --> 01:03:16.480
is something we're
planning on doing next year.
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:19.960
We actually did set up a TRC
01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:23.950
as part of a joint three county
tabletop in Southern Oregon,
01:03:23.950 --> 01:03:26.080
just a couple of months ago
when it was very successful.
01:03:26.080 --> 01:03:27.890
We came back a lot of feedback
01:03:27.890 --> 01:03:29.370
and we're looking to do the same thing
01:03:29.370 --> 01:03:32.601
kind of in concert with our new
emergency management staff
01:03:32.601 --> 01:03:35.253
coming on board in our
California service territory as well.
01:03:39.080 --> 01:03:40.360
Thank you, Justin.
01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:42.360
Yeah. Thanks for
the feedback on that.
01:03:43.771 --> 01:03:46.080
You know, there's a
saying in the businesses,
01:03:46.080 --> 01:03:48.980
you know, disasters
happen while you're planning.
01:03:48.980 --> 01:03:53.980
So I'm just thinking
that a few of these things
01:03:54.500 --> 01:03:59.500
that are directly related to
impacts to the community
01:03:59.900 --> 01:04:02.500
while you guys are
working your tails off
01:04:02.500 --> 01:04:05.720
on addressing
infrastructure improvements
01:04:05.720 --> 01:04:08.420
and building your protocol out,
01:04:08.420 --> 01:04:10.640
ultimately we, and I know you don't,
01:04:10.640 --> 01:04:14.240
but we cannot forget the end impact.
01:04:14.240 --> 01:04:15.710
And that is the customers,
01:04:15.710 --> 01:04:18.010
the people who live in
the community particularly
01:04:18.010 --> 01:04:21.699
people who need extra help.
01:04:21.699 --> 01:04:26.699
I would maybe suggest,
and again, happy to help you.
01:04:26.784 --> 01:04:29.770
If you're gonna do a tabletop
01:04:29.770 --> 01:04:32.563
or a functional exercise
of a CRC next year,
01:04:34.490 --> 01:04:37.740
maybe that's whatever six months away,
01:04:37.740 --> 01:04:39.490
we're gonna go through this season,
01:04:40.970 --> 01:04:45.970
even maybe going through a
tabletop discussion exercise
01:04:46.490 --> 01:04:48.330
sometime in the next few weeks
01:04:48.330 --> 01:04:50.093
would be beneficial for you all.
01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:53.780
Which we again, would
be happy to sit if you want,
01:04:53.780 --> 01:04:58.780
just so that there's a little
clarity on where, when, how,
01:04:59.130 --> 01:05:00.500
or that CRC or be set up.
01:05:00.500 --> 01:05:03.570
And then maybe you can
articulate that out to the community
01:05:03.570 --> 01:05:04.890
in a broader way.
01:05:04.890 --> 01:05:08.840
So just a thought on
that, 'cause just this week,
01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:10.150
as you know fire weather
01:05:10.150 --> 01:05:12.440
is you're going to
write flight condition.
01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:15.360
Currently, you're gonna have winds
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:18.190
up through the end of the week.
01:05:18.190 --> 01:05:22.900
And my guess is that it's in
between now and January one,
01:05:22.900 --> 01:05:27.210
we're gonna have a number
of potential PSPS events
01:05:27.210 --> 01:05:28.990
taking place in Northern California.
01:05:28.990 --> 01:05:31.470
So, and with the drought
conditions the way they are
01:05:31.470 --> 01:05:34.993
and the way these fires are
spreading and moving so rapidly,
01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:37.830
we wanna just be on top of that.
01:05:37.830 --> 01:05:39.500
So anyway, just a thought on that.
01:05:39.500 --> 01:05:41.653
And again, happy to help you get there.
01:05:42.870 --> 01:05:44.490
Appreciate that offer.
01:05:44.490 --> 01:05:45.323
Thank you.
01:05:46.700 --> 01:05:48.404
Allen, this is Caroline.
01:05:48.404 --> 01:05:49.530
Oh, excuse me.
01:05:49.530 --> 01:05:50.840
I think we're gonna need to wrap up
01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:53.040
where I've not been a
very good timekeeper today.
01:05:53.040 --> 01:05:55.596
We're about 15 minutes over time.
01:05:55.596 --> 01:05:57.923
So please Caroline, go ahead.
01:05:57.923 --> 01:05:59.800
Just quick question.
01:05:59.800 --> 01:06:01.945
Can you just in 60 seconds,
01:06:01.945 --> 01:06:05.640
talk to any individualized notifications
01:06:05.640 --> 01:06:07.760
to communication companies.
01:06:07.760 --> 01:06:11.110
One of the sort of lessons
learned over the last few years
01:06:11.110 --> 01:06:13.450
has been that their notification needs
01:06:13.450 --> 01:06:14.690
are slightly different
01:06:14.690 --> 01:06:17.670
than a typical customer's
notification reads
01:06:17.670 --> 01:06:20.253
needs due to having multiple sites.
01:06:21.120 --> 01:06:23.990
So can you speak to how you guys have,
01:06:23.990 --> 01:06:26.610
or are planning on
tailoring notification to them?
01:06:26.610 --> 01:06:29.923
So they get a consolidated
and concise notification.
01:06:30.980 --> 01:06:31.813
Yeah.
01:06:31.813 --> 01:06:32.646
Thank you for that question.
01:06:32.646 --> 01:06:35.040
And it was, I think,
remarked on earlier,
01:06:35.040 --> 01:06:37.200
it's about the GIS sharing information.
01:06:37.200 --> 01:06:40.870
So when it comes down to
notifying a communication provider
01:06:40.870 --> 01:06:43.730
it's about providing GIS information
01:06:43.730 --> 01:06:47.870
so that they can truly
understand and quickly understand
01:06:47.870 --> 01:06:50.510
how we're sharing that
information in a standard format,
01:06:50.510 --> 01:06:52.827
that they can take that
in and know their impacts.
01:06:52.827 --> 01:06:56.090
And so it's about doing that
pre-planning and explaining,
01:06:56.090 --> 01:06:57.920
and being able to
provide to them at a time,
01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:00.470
this is what you'll get
from us, does that work?
01:07:00.470 --> 01:07:03.913
So an ATMT is the, our
lesson learned on that.
01:07:07.680 --> 01:07:08.990
Great. Thank you.
01:07:08.990 --> 01:07:09.823
Mm-hmm.
01:07:12.027 --> 01:07:12.860
All right.
01:07:12.860 --> 01:07:16.333
And if we move to the next
slide, which is the last slide,
01:07:18.299 --> 01:07:20.920
so thank you for the time check.
01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:24.330
And so in closing, thank
you again for the opportunity.
01:07:24.330 --> 01:07:26.300
Pacific Corp, obviously we'll continue
01:07:26.300 --> 01:07:30.007
to evolve our processes
relating to preparing ourselves
01:07:30.007 --> 01:07:32.630
and the community for PSPS events.
01:07:32.630 --> 01:07:35.300
Our areas of focus, as
we walked through that
01:07:35.300 --> 01:07:38.520
do include identifying
our vulnerable populations,
01:07:38.520 --> 01:07:39.797
expanding our programs,
01:07:39.797 --> 01:07:42.920
the medical baseline, and AFN customers.
01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:47.902
We recognize we have
an opportunity to expand
01:07:47.902 --> 01:07:50.830
and evolve our current offerings.
01:07:50.830 --> 01:07:52.426
So we'll be looking to do that,
01:07:52.426 --> 01:07:55.590
continue to push in our
improved communications
01:07:55.590 --> 01:07:58.800
and how we're providing
information through our web pages.
01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:02.030
And as we build a better
situational awareness internally
01:08:02.030 --> 01:08:04.030
with our weather forecasting,
01:08:04.030 --> 01:08:06.260
being able to pass that
straight through to our customers
01:08:06.260 --> 01:08:07.910
through our website so that they can see
01:08:07.910 --> 01:08:11.618
that weather forecasting
capability as well.
01:08:11.618 --> 01:08:15.260
This conversation about
the continued collaboration,
01:08:15.260 --> 01:08:16.700
our tabletop exercises,
01:08:16.700 --> 01:08:19.100
and actually doing
functional tests of that.
01:08:19.100 --> 01:08:21.310
And can we set these CRCs up
01:08:21.310 --> 01:08:23.360
and moving beyond
just planning for them,
01:08:23.360 --> 01:08:25.760
but actually exercising some of them
01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:28.524
absolutely is an area
that we'll push on.
01:08:28.524 --> 01:08:32.490
And just that ongoing
collaboration from that last slide
01:08:32.490 --> 01:08:34.760
with all these various
agencies and communities
01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:37.986
and critical infrastructure,
like communication
01:08:37.986 --> 01:08:40.950
will be an area of focus as well.
01:08:40.950 --> 01:08:43.210
So with that, that
ends the presentation.
01:08:43.210 --> 01:08:45.400
And we had a lot of good
questions throughout,
01:08:45.400 --> 01:08:49.070
but happy to field any
additional questions at this time.
01:08:49.070 --> 01:08:51.682
Okay. Thank you
very much for you
01:08:51.682 --> 01:08:55.640
and your fellow colleagues
for the presentation.
01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:57.950
Are there any remaining questions
01:08:57.950 --> 01:09:02.950
before we move on to the
next presentation by Liberty?
01:09:03.220 --> 01:09:05.350
Yeah. I just have one
question President Batjer.
01:09:05.350 --> 01:09:06.390
Oh, sorry Commissioner.
01:09:06.390 --> 01:09:07.744
Yeah, no, go ahead.
01:09:07.744 --> 01:09:08.577
Go ahead.
01:09:08.577 --> 01:09:10.200
Its one real quick question.
01:09:10.200 --> 01:09:13.258
Allen, while reviewing
your wildfire mitigation plan
01:09:13.258 --> 01:09:15.380
it looks like the company was only able
01:09:15.380 --> 01:09:19.700
to deploy two out of
the 11 weather stations
01:09:19.700 --> 01:09:21.341
that you had planned for last year.
01:09:21.341 --> 01:09:22.890
Curious what you've done
01:09:22.890 --> 01:09:24.890
to get caught up in
your weather stations
01:09:24.890 --> 01:09:27.430
and what you're doing
differently this year
01:09:27.430 --> 01:09:29.230
to make sure that you stay on track.
01:09:30.298 --> 01:09:31.510
Thank you for that question.
01:09:31.510 --> 01:09:33.700
'Cause yeah, we are
to 20 weather stations
01:09:33.700 --> 01:09:37.938
have been installed and 41 across
01:09:37.938 --> 01:09:40.580
our Pacific Corp service territory.
01:09:40.580 --> 01:09:43.780
And we have ordered
like an additional 100,
01:09:43.780 --> 01:09:46.600
just to give you a sense of
the context of the magnitude
01:09:46.600 --> 01:09:48.590
of what we're looking to have installed
01:09:48.590 --> 01:09:50.110
across our service territory
01:09:50.110 --> 01:09:52.540
before going into the
next wildfire season.
01:09:52.540 --> 01:09:55.990
So yes, we're on track and implemented
01:09:55.990 --> 01:09:58.520
what we wanted for
before this fire season,
01:09:58.520 --> 01:10:00.870
but looking to push that even further
01:10:00.870 --> 01:10:04.403
and more than doubling
our our station count.
01:10:05.350 --> 01:10:06.300
Great. Thank you.
01:10:09.742 --> 01:10:13.650
Last question, I guess, to
accommodate, you know,
01:10:13.650 --> 01:10:16.780
yesterday we heard confusion, he added--
01:10:16.780 --> 01:10:18.380
Commissioner
Shiroma, could you speak
01:10:18.380 --> 01:10:20.190
a little bit more direct I'm having...
01:10:20.190 --> 01:10:22.390
You're kind of fading in and out for me.
01:10:22.390 --> 01:10:24.700
Sorry, I'll get closer
to the (mumbles).
01:10:24.700 --> 01:10:26.740
You know, there's been a number of fires
01:10:26.740 --> 01:10:28.273
up in newer territory.
01:10:30.010 --> 01:10:33.223
I think there are
some current fires now.
01:10:34.929 --> 01:10:37.120
And so I think we're all feeling
01:10:37.120 --> 01:10:39.130
a really strong sense of urgency.
01:10:39.130 --> 01:10:40.543
I imagine you are too.
01:10:42.366 --> 01:10:46.510
Are any of these fires
affecting your infrastructure,
01:10:46.510 --> 01:10:50.357
your system up in Northern (indistinct).
01:10:52.240 --> 01:10:53.073
Right.
01:10:53.073 --> 01:10:54.730
And Justin might be able to jump in
01:10:54.730 --> 01:10:57.474
and provide a more detailed quick.
01:10:57.474 --> 01:10:58.810
Currently yeah, no,
01:10:58.810 --> 01:11:00.900
well actually I'll just
throw it to you Justin,
01:11:00.900 --> 01:11:02.670
'cause I don't wanna misspeak.
01:11:02.670 --> 01:11:04.680
So no problem, man.
01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:05.513
Yeah.
01:11:05.513 --> 01:11:07.300
Most recently the boot
lake fire in Southern Oregon
01:11:07.300 --> 01:11:10.050
was the most impactful of our assets.
01:11:10.050 --> 01:11:11.840
And currently we're keeping a close eye
01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:15.510
on some of in Southern Oregon
the animal fire specifically,
01:11:15.510 --> 01:11:16.480
and some of the grills.
01:11:16.480 --> 01:11:18.610
So we do have a lot of
smaller ones right now,
01:11:18.610 --> 01:11:20.100
but we all know how
quickly they can grow,
01:11:20.100 --> 01:11:21.180
especially with some of the winds.
01:11:21.180 --> 01:11:24.783
So we're very busy on the
operational front right now.
01:11:26.990 --> 01:11:28.420
Yeah. Okay.
01:11:28.420 --> 01:11:29.330
All right.
01:11:29.330 --> 01:11:31.060
I just wanted to acknowledge that.
01:11:31.060 --> 01:11:32.510
Thank you.
01:11:32.510 --> 01:11:34.260
Thank you.
01:11:34.260 --> 01:11:35.093
There...
01:11:35.093 --> 01:11:35.926
Thank you.
01:11:35.926 --> 01:11:39.373
Are there any other
questions of Mr. Berreth?
01:11:41.410 --> 01:11:42.730
Okay.
01:11:42.730 --> 01:11:46.460
Thank you very much for the
presentation from Pacific Corp.
01:11:46.460 --> 01:11:48.550
And I think there are
quite a few follow-ups
01:11:48.550 --> 01:11:53.040
that we have all enumerated today.
01:11:53.040 --> 01:11:56.472
And so we look forward
to those follow-ups
01:11:56.472 --> 01:11:57.305
from you and your company.
01:11:57.305 --> 01:11:58.653
So thank you very much.
01:12:00.070 --> 01:12:05.070
And we will now turn to
the presentation from Liberty
01:12:05.533 --> 01:12:07.810
to Mr. Chris Alario,
01:12:07.810 --> 01:12:12.350
who is the president
of Liberty Utilities.
01:12:12.350 --> 01:12:16.610
And I do apologize sir for
being, keeping you waiting
01:12:16.610 --> 01:12:18.830
and being a little late,
but we, as you could tell,
01:12:18.830 --> 01:12:23.200
we had quite a few questions
to ask at Pacific Corp,
01:12:23.200 --> 01:12:26.410
and that will probably
be the same for you.
01:12:26.410 --> 01:12:30.150
So please don't take
it as a rude interruption
01:12:30.150 --> 01:12:33.670
when the virtual dais asks you questions
01:12:33.670 --> 01:12:35.452
during your presentation,
01:12:35.452 --> 01:12:37.330
but that's seems a
better way for us to roll.
01:12:37.330 --> 01:12:41.610
So with that, please, I turn to you now
01:12:41.610 --> 01:12:44.110
for your presentation from Liberty.
01:12:44.110 --> 01:12:44.943
Okay.
01:12:44.943 --> 01:12:48.002
I'll just check and test to make
sure everyone can hear me.
01:12:48.002 --> 01:12:50.980
Yes we can hear you fine.
01:12:50.980 --> 01:12:53.380
Good morning President
Batjer, Commissioners
01:12:53.380 --> 01:12:55.330
and other state agency representatives.
01:12:56.426 --> 01:12:57.990
My name is Chris Alario,
01:12:57.990 --> 01:12:59.630
and I'm president of Liberty Utilities,
01:12:59.630 --> 01:13:01.750
California Operations.
01:13:01.750 --> 01:13:04.490
Joining me today are Travis Johnson,
01:13:04.490 --> 01:13:06.860
our vice president of
our Tahoe operations
01:13:06.860 --> 01:13:10.810
and Elliot Jones, our senior
manager of wildfire prevention.
01:13:10.810 --> 01:13:13.220
I would like to just
comment real briefly here
01:13:13.220 --> 01:13:14.380
that sitting in
01:13:14.380 --> 01:13:16.680
and listening to the
Pacific Corp presentation
01:13:17.800 --> 01:13:19.110
was tremendous for us.
01:13:19.110 --> 01:13:22.660
The learning, just the
questions that are being asked
01:13:22.660 --> 01:13:25.480
and the presentation
it's really helpful for us
01:13:25.480 --> 01:13:28.516
because this is really
new terrain for all of us.
01:13:28.516 --> 01:13:30.800
And the more that we can see
01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:32.380
what our peer companies are doing
01:13:32.380 --> 01:13:34.110
and understanding what they're doing,
01:13:34.110 --> 01:13:36.130
there's a lot of opportunity
for shared knowledge
01:13:36.130 --> 01:13:37.060
and shared learning here.
01:13:37.060 --> 01:13:40.480
So this is a great opportunity for us.
01:13:40.480 --> 01:13:42.700
We really appreciate the opportunity
01:13:42.700 --> 01:13:44.680
to be part of this public meeting.
01:13:44.680 --> 01:13:47.900
And I'd also like to
note that Mr. Ghilarducci,
01:13:47.900 --> 01:13:50.070
offer to meet with the smaller IOUs
01:13:50.070 --> 01:13:52.036
to help us improve our customer,
01:13:52.036 --> 01:13:55.810
our PSPS preparation
mitigation of customer impacts.
01:13:55.810 --> 01:13:57.470
We'll be reaching out to you, sir.
01:13:57.470 --> 01:14:00.150
And we want to set something up
01:14:00.150 --> 01:14:04.470
and take you up on your
offer in the near term.
01:14:04.470 --> 01:14:08.211
So really appreciate that offer.
01:14:08.211 --> 01:14:10.543
Can you please
advance to the next slide?
01:14:13.050 --> 01:14:15.190
So I thought I'd start by
giving you a quick overview
01:14:15.190 --> 01:14:17.333
of our operations.
01:14:17.333 --> 01:14:20.930
So Liberty serves
approximately 49,000 customers
01:14:20.930 --> 01:14:23.900
in the greater Lake Tahoe Basin area.
01:14:23.900 --> 01:14:26.600
One unique feature of
our Lake Tahoe utility
01:14:26.600 --> 01:14:29.710
is that it is connected to the
Nevada balancing authority,
01:14:29.710 --> 01:14:31.290
not Cal ISO.
01:14:31.290 --> 01:14:34.223
And we purchased power
directly from NV energy.
01:14:35.150 --> 01:14:39.480
We also own and operate two
solar farms located in Nevada
01:14:39.480 --> 01:14:43.050
that generate supply 60
megawatts of renewable energy
01:14:43.050 --> 01:14:47.871
to our customers via NV
energy's transmission system.
01:14:47.871 --> 01:14:52.090
Our local operations
comprise 125 employees.
01:14:52.090 --> 01:14:54.610
We have increased our staffing by 25%
01:14:54.610 --> 01:14:56.130
over the last two years,
01:14:56.130 --> 01:15:00.020
adding 25 new positions to
underpin our base operations
01:15:00.020 --> 01:15:01.560
and lead an execute our wildfire
01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:03.823
mitigation programs and activities.
01:15:05.126 --> 01:15:07.000
As you can see by the map,
01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:09.950
our service territory is quite expansive
01:15:09.950 --> 01:15:13.450
while most of our customers
live in the Tahoe Basin area
01:15:13.450 --> 01:15:15.784
our serious territory does stretch north
01:15:15.784 --> 01:15:18.253
as far north to the Town of Portola.
01:15:22.002 --> 01:15:23.290
And as far south
01:15:24.463 --> 01:15:28.423
to the communities of
Markleeville, Coleville/Walker.
01:15:30.180 --> 01:15:33.630
One another unique feature
of our service territory is,
01:15:33.630 --> 01:15:38.340
is that we do have a high
percentage of high fire risk areas
01:15:38.340 --> 01:15:42.551
with over 90% of Liberty's
1,400 miles of overhead lines
01:15:42.551 --> 01:15:46.483
located in high
wildfire threat districts.
01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:50.490
Climate change and
ongoing drought exasperates
01:15:50.490 --> 01:15:53.120
the welfare challenges
we face in Lake Tahoe.
01:15:53.120 --> 01:15:55.630
And if the drought continues into 2022
01:15:55.630 --> 01:15:56.660
and the trends continue
01:15:56.660 --> 01:15:59.060
for earlier and longer wildfire seasons,
01:15:59.060 --> 01:16:01.130
the surrounding forest
and the Lake Tahoe area
01:16:01.130 --> 01:16:03.180
will be more stressed and prone
01:16:03.180 --> 01:16:05.543
for exceptional wildfire
conditions and risk.
01:16:06.470 --> 01:16:08.450
As you can expect, what is shaping up
01:16:08.450 --> 01:16:10.510
to be one of the most
and what is shaping up
01:16:10.510 --> 01:16:13.500
to be one of the most severe
wildfire seasons on record?
01:16:13.500 --> 01:16:16.350
Our top priority is
keeping customers safe,
01:16:16.350 --> 01:16:18.000
minimizing customer impacts
01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:21.550
and connecting and
supporting AFN populations.
01:16:21.550 --> 01:16:23.530
We are doing everything
possible to prepare
01:16:23.530 --> 01:16:26.020
and be ready to respond
to emergency situations
01:16:26.020 --> 01:16:27.530
safely and timely.
01:16:27.530 --> 01:16:30.550
As I mentioned, we've
been increasing our staffing.
01:16:30.550 --> 01:16:33.460
We've also been focused on
improving resource planning,
01:16:33.460 --> 01:16:35.163
logistics, and execution.
01:16:36.184 --> 01:16:39.490
I think we've made tremendous
progress as you'll see in a,
01:16:39.490 --> 01:16:41.840
in a slide later on and
improving customer
01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:43.357
and external communications.
01:16:43.357 --> 01:16:45.580
And that includes both
the timing, accuracy,
01:16:45.580 --> 01:16:46.750
and effectiveness.
01:16:46.750 --> 01:16:49.380
And then one thing I
really pride our company on
01:16:49.380 --> 01:16:50.800
and our staff.
01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:53.610
I think we've gotten better
too at being more transparent
01:16:53.610 --> 01:16:55.000
with our customers,
01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:57.450
with our communities
and with our partners.
01:16:57.450 --> 01:16:58.650
And this is really critical
01:16:58.650 --> 01:17:01.650
because these wildfire situations,
01:17:01.650 --> 01:17:06.350
we serve a number of very
small, tight knit communities
01:17:06.350 --> 01:17:08.820
and our ability to be transparent
01:17:08.820 --> 01:17:12.530
and communicate real
effective information to them
01:17:12.530 --> 01:17:15.300
helps lower their anxiety
and gives them the confidence
01:17:15.300 --> 01:17:18.562
that their utility provider is
doing everything they can
01:17:18.562 --> 01:17:22.093
to keep them safe and try to avoid PSPS.
01:17:23.890 --> 01:17:25.650
As previously noted,
01:17:25.650 --> 01:17:27.680
we have been fortunate
so far in being able
01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:32.100
to avoid having to execute a
PSPS over the last three years,
01:17:32.100 --> 01:17:34.960
but we wanna make clear that we see it
01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:37.240
just like the Commission does that.
01:17:37.240 --> 01:17:38.600
And we view it.
01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:42.430
We view PSPS as
an option of (indistinct).
01:17:42.430 --> 01:17:46.110
And as Travis we'll discuss
later on in the presentation,
01:17:46.110 --> 01:17:49.430
we are making good progress
in hardening our system assets
01:17:49.430 --> 01:17:52.700
to mitigate wildfire risk so
that we can continue to avoid
01:17:52.700 --> 01:17:56.740
or at a minimum,
minimize the use of PSPS
01:17:56.740 --> 01:17:59.330
and minimize the impacts on
our customer during the wild
01:17:59.330 --> 01:18:01.180
customers during the wildfire season.
01:18:02.380 --> 01:18:05.900
We have learned a lot
over the last three years,
01:18:05.900 --> 01:18:07.150
and we continue to learn
01:18:08.120 --> 01:18:11.400
both from these type of public meetings,
01:18:11.400 --> 01:18:14.150
but also in working
with our peer companies.
01:18:14.150 --> 01:18:15.810
And as Elliott we'll discuss later,
01:18:15.810 --> 01:18:17.980
we are applying those
lessons, those learnings
01:18:17.980 --> 01:18:20.810
to improve our PSPS decision-making.
01:18:20.810 --> 01:18:23.370
Including utilizing more
real time information
01:18:23.370 --> 01:18:25.730
by deploying our linemen to patrol
01:18:25.730 --> 01:18:27.623
and monitor conditions on the ground.
01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:31.820
As you know and it has
already been commented
01:18:31.820 --> 01:18:34.742
the wildfire season
is already in full swing.
01:18:34.742 --> 01:18:37.360
So I would like to conclude
my opening comments
01:18:37.360 --> 01:18:40.630
with a brief update on
Liberty's recent response
01:18:40.630 --> 01:18:42.440
to the Tamarack fire.
01:18:42.440 --> 01:18:45.333
Which was caused by lightning
and fueled by high winds.
01:18:46.488 --> 01:18:49.530
And it did spread into
Liberty's of service area,
01:18:49.530 --> 01:18:53.313
south of Lake Tahoe, the Lake
Tahoe Basin and into Nevada.
01:18:54.470 --> 01:18:58.450
The fire burned over
60,000, 68,000 acres.
01:18:58.450 --> 01:18:59.690
At the high point,
01:18:59.690 --> 01:19:03.060
the fire caused the evacuation
of one of our communities,
01:19:03.060 --> 01:19:06.300
the historic town of Markleeville
and surrounding areas,
01:19:06.300 --> 01:19:09.720
and has impacted over a
thousand Liberty customers
01:19:09.720 --> 01:19:11.610
at various times.
01:19:11.610 --> 01:19:14.730
Two weeks ago, the
fire destroyed six miles
01:19:14.730 --> 01:19:16.250
of our main line and laterals
01:19:16.250 --> 01:19:19.680
serving Markleeville and
the surrounding communities
01:19:19.680 --> 01:19:22.060
working closely with incident command,
01:19:22.060 --> 01:19:25.880
we organized and deployed
over 100 Lyman and contractors
01:19:25.880 --> 01:19:27.250
to the fire zone.
01:19:27.250 --> 01:19:30.820
Our field crews worked
16 hour shifts to rebuild
01:19:30.820 --> 01:19:35.110
our main line laterals, which
involve replacing 130 poles
01:19:35.110 --> 01:19:37.600
in very challenging and remote terrain
01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:40.565
and removing 4,800 fire damaged
01:19:40.565 --> 01:19:43.700
or destroyed trees
from the right of ways.
01:19:43.700 --> 01:19:47.124
At the same time, we were
able to mitigate customer impacts
01:19:47.124 --> 01:19:48.950
during the two week emergency
01:19:48.950 --> 01:19:52.040
by deploying temporary
generators and Markleeville,
01:19:52.040 --> 01:19:55.580
which allowed us to keep those
350 plus customers in power
01:19:55.580 --> 01:19:57.293
while we rebuilt the lines.
01:19:58.440 --> 01:20:00.900
We also deployed and
we're ready to power up
01:20:00.900 --> 01:20:04.480
temporary generators in
the Coleville/Walker area
01:20:04.480 --> 01:20:08.130
while NB energy made repairs
to their fire damaged lines,
01:20:08.130 --> 01:20:12.920
that feed power to our
770 customers in that area.
01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:14.480
We were fortunate that NB energy
01:20:14.480 --> 01:20:16.420
was able to complete the repairs
01:20:16.420 --> 01:20:18.307
without cutting power to our customers.
01:20:18.307 --> 01:20:21.170
So we did not have to
power up the generators,
01:20:21.170 --> 01:20:23.120
but I would like to know we were ready.
01:20:24.670 --> 01:20:27.567
So by shifting all available
resources to Markleeville area
01:20:27.567 --> 01:20:29.520
and working around the clock,
01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:31.830
we're happy to report
as of two days ago,
01:20:31.830 --> 01:20:35.170
Liberty completed the
rebuild, re-energize the lines
01:20:35.170 --> 01:20:37.106
and restored service to all customers
01:20:37.106 --> 01:20:40.130
that can receive power
in the Markleeville area.
01:20:40.130 --> 01:20:44.710
So I also wanna thank all
the public agency partners
01:20:44.710 --> 01:20:47.440
that we worked with
during this emergency
01:20:47.440 --> 01:20:49.003
great learning lesson.
01:20:49.003 --> 01:20:52.059
We plan to spend a lot of time here
01:20:52.059 --> 01:20:56.020
once we finished the
cleanup to really debrief
01:20:56.020 --> 01:20:57.270
and do a lessons learned
01:20:57.270 --> 01:21:00.890
and all this is gonna
be hopefully helping us
01:21:00.890 --> 01:21:03.720
be better prepared
for the next emergency.
01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:06.659
So with that, will you please.
01:21:06.659 --> 01:21:10.580
May I interrupt
for just a second
01:21:10.580 --> 01:21:12.350
because it's quite extraordinary.
01:21:12.350 --> 01:21:16.040
Not only are you dealing
with the Tamarack fire,
01:21:16.040 --> 01:21:20.680
and what had has occurred there,
01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:24.680
but also I would imagine
the Beckworth complex fire.
01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:26.560
So I'm sure you're
gonna talk about that,
01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:28.634
but I'm curious with the evacuations
01:21:28.634 --> 01:21:33.634
that were done in Markleeville area,
01:21:33.904 --> 01:21:36.890
were you all asked at
all by the community,
01:21:36.890 --> 01:21:38.710
or maybe this will be one
of your lessons learned
01:21:38.710 --> 01:21:42.510
to set up any kind of
community on resource center,
01:21:42.510 --> 01:21:45.230
even though it's not
that you call the PSPS,
01:21:45.230 --> 01:21:48.793
clearly people were
evacuated and lost power.
01:21:50.646 --> 01:21:52.154
Well, we considered that,
01:21:52.154 --> 01:21:54.920
but we were fortunate that
because of the entire town
01:21:54.920 --> 01:21:56.270
and surrounding areas were evacuated,
01:21:56.270 --> 01:21:59.960
it gave us time to procure
temporary generators.
01:21:59.960 --> 01:22:01.920
And our engineers figured out a way
01:22:01.920 --> 01:22:05.470
to basically set up the
temporary energy generators
01:22:05.470 --> 01:22:10.470
that could then power up the
lines south of where we were,
01:22:10.510 --> 01:22:12.520
where our main line was destroyed.
01:22:12.520 --> 01:22:15.330
We were able to effectively
power up the whole grid
01:22:15.330 --> 01:22:16.878
using temporary generators.
01:22:16.878 --> 01:22:18.600
So there was no immediate,
01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:20.450
there was no impact on the customers
01:22:20.450 --> 01:22:23.020
when they were able to
move back into the area
01:22:23.020 --> 01:22:25.053
once the evacuation order was lifted.
01:22:26.050 --> 01:22:26.883
Okay.
01:22:26.883 --> 01:22:27.890
Yeah.
01:22:27.890 --> 01:22:32.890
And obviously there a
lot of tribal land and area
01:22:33.440 --> 01:22:35.400
in that Markleeville
01:22:35.400 --> 01:22:39.477
both the Washoe as
well as the Paiutes tribes.
01:22:41.451 --> 01:22:44.290
And not only have you
had to contend with fires,
01:22:44.290 --> 01:22:47.060
but you had a tremendous
earthquake in Walker.
01:22:47.060 --> 01:22:50.912
So I don't know in dealing with your
01:22:50.912 --> 01:22:53.690
you're still the facility is it's,
01:22:53.690 --> 01:22:56.523
it's shaking quite a
bit these days as well.
01:22:57.470 --> 01:23:00.640
Well, I mean, we
are now in a situation
01:23:00.640 --> 01:23:03.080
where if we're not preparing and ready
01:23:03.080 --> 01:23:05.831
and readying ourselves for the wildfire,
01:23:05.831 --> 01:23:10.480
we're in winter storm
season, so we're getting very,
01:23:10.480 --> 01:23:12.630
we're getting very good
and better each year
01:23:12.630 --> 01:23:15.240
at responding to emergency situations,
01:23:15.240 --> 01:23:18.702
just given the environment
in which we operate
01:23:18.702 --> 01:23:20.870
and where the system is located.
01:23:20.870 --> 01:23:22.840
It sits on the mountain
in the middle of the forest.
01:23:22.840 --> 01:23:25.473
So we're getting better each year.
01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:28.427
Okay. Thank you.
01:23:29.325 --> 01:23:30.530
Chris, this is Daniel.
01:23:30.530 --> 01:23:32.793
I have just a quick
question on your rebuild.
01:23:32.793 --> 01:23:34.520
You know, first I have to acknowledge,
01:23:34.520 --> 01:23:37.460
obviously that your team must
have worked significantly hard
01:23:37.460 --> 01:23:40.030
to restore power and
restore the infrastructure
01:23:40.030 --> 01:23:42.613
that was destroyed by
the fire, but just curious,
01:23:42.613 --> 01:23:44.550
were you able to take any opportunities
01:23:44.550 --> 01:23:46.970
to replace any of the
line with covered line
01:23:46.970 --> 01:23:49.850
or any of the infrastructure
with hardened items
01:23:49.850 --> 01:23:52.850
while you were in this
rebuilding process?
01:23:52.850 --> 01:23:57.850
We looked at that the
unfortunately the planning horizon
01:23:57.850 --> 01:24:02.220
for a cover conductor, it's
a six to eight week process
01:24:02.220 --> 01:24:03.410
just to do the design.
01:24:03.410 --> 01:24:07.650
It is a special equipment you do.
01:24:07.650 --> 01:24:11.236
And so we had to weigh,
do we do a cover conductor
01:24:11.236 --> 01:24:13.740
that would take a lot more time,
01:24:13.740 --> 01:24:16.950
or do we go ahead and rebuild the line
01:24:16.950 --> 01:24:18.540
as quickly as possible
01:24:18.540 --> 01:24:21.260
to get to keep the customers in power?
01:24:21.260 --> 01:24:25.620
And the temporary generators,
that's not a long-term fix
01:24:25.620 --> 01:24:28.230
and we weren't comfortable
running those generators
01:24:28.230 --> 01:24:31.280
could be, it could take us
anywhere to two to three months
01:24:31.280 --> 01:24:33.400
to complete a cover conductor project
01:24:33.400 --> 01:24:37.070
with just the planning
horizon, ordering the materials.
01:24:37.070 --> 01:24:39.940
So we did consider it,
but at the end of the day,
01:24:39.940 --> 01:24:43.850
we opted to minimize the customer impact
01:24:43.850 --> 01:24:45.840
and rebuild the line.
01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:47.270
We did upgrade the poles
01:24:47.270 --> 01:24:50.570
and I believe we
upgraded the wires as well,
01:24:50.570 --> 01:24:53.033
but we did not go all the
way it's covered conduct.
01:24:54.150 --> 01:24:54.983
Thank you.
01:24:55.840 --> 01:24:57.750
All up to that.
01:24:57.750 --> 01:24:59.823
You know, one of
the things that also is,
01:25:01.292 --> 01:25:02.610
and I appreciate the kind of conundrum
01:25:04.516 --> 01:25:05.349
about needing to get power back up
01:25:07.148 --> 01:25:10.100
and perhaps maybe not
missing the opportunity to harden,
01:25:10.100 --> 01:25:15.010
but not having that readily available.
01:25:15.010 --> 01:25:19.900
And the similar can, the
situation tends to exist
01:25:19.900 --> 01:25:22.670
with the communications infrastructure.
01:25:22.670 --> 01:25:27.390
And in this case, you sound
like you're above ground,
01:25:27.390 --> 01:25:29.440
still with all the infrastructure,
01:25:29.440 --> 01:25:31.010
but was there any communication
01:25:31.010 --> 01:25:34.060
with a telecommunication
providers in the area
01:25:34.060 --> 01:25:39.020
about even attaching together,
01:25:39.020 --> 01:25:42.337
making sure the poles
were updated to make sure
01:25:45.639 --> 01:25:47.440
they could withstand enough
01:25:47.440 --> 01:25:49.283
of the communication attachments?
01:25:50.770 --> 01:25:51.603
Yes.
01:25:51.603 --> 01:25:53.040
My understanding is all
the polls were designed.
01:25:53.040 --> 01:25:54.540
I believe that the original,
01:25:54.540 --> 01:25:59.280
that the existing mainline we had there
01:25:59.280 --> 01:26:02.850
did actually have telecommunications
hardware on it already.
01:26:02.850 --> 01:26:04.100
I think we had agreements
01:26:05.400 --> 01:26:07.000
with the telecommunication provider
01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:08.970
to have those hardware there.
01:26:08.970 --> 01:26:12.330
But I'll defer, I'll
bring Travis in here.
01:26:12.330 --> 01:26:14.080
Travis, do you have any more information
01:26:14.080 --> 01:26:15.730
on the telecommunications?
01:26:15.730 --> 01:26:17.410
I believe generally what the plan is
01:26:17.410 --> 01:26:19.570
we get our poles in
place, we get the power up
01:26:19.570 --> 01:26:21.870
and then the telecommunication company
01:26:21.870 --> 01:26:26.083
comes behind us and then
strings are their lines back on.
01:26:26.985 --> 01:26:28.410
Yeah, that's correct, Chris.
01:26:28.410 --> 01:26:32.130
So I think it's frontier that
actually serves that region
01:26:32.130 --> 01:26:35.630
and all poles calcs were done
01:26:35.630 --> 01:26:38.140
to allow for that telecom, you know,
01:26:38.140 --> 01:26:40.850
hardware to be restrung on the poles.
01:26:40.850 --> 01:26:42.563
So it's certainly designed for it.
01:26:46.410 --> 01:26:49.556
So this is Mark,
and just a quick thing
01:26:49.556 --> 01:26:53.140
and I appreciate your briefing.
01:26:53.140 --> 01:26:58.140
So I spent quite a bit of time
up in Alpine and Markleeville
01:26:58.240 --> 01:27:01.160
whether in the fire and
afterwards, and I'd say your,
01:27:01.160 --> 01:27:04.669
your crews are kicking butt
out there and doing a great job
01:27:04.669 --> 01:27:09.357
and in restoration and
the work that they're doing.
01:27:09.357 --> 01:27:12.560
It didn't dawn on me as I was driving by
01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:15.600
a number of your crews
and watching their operations
01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:20.600
about rebuilding and
how you're rebuilding,
01:27:20.956 --> 01:27:25.670
you know the fire came
through there in 84, the acorn fire.
01:27:25.670 --> 01:27:28.130
Now we've got a fire again, this year.
01:27:28.130 --> 01:27:30.490
Probability is we'll
see, fire there again.
01:27:30.490 --> 01:27:35.470
And so really from a policy standpoint
01:27:35.470 --> 01:27:36.803
from the organization,
01:27:38.200 --> 01:27:40.440
how are you thinking about investing
01:27:40.440 --> 01:27:41.910
in hardening your infrastructure?
01:27:41.910 --> 01:27:44.210
What are your plan there?
01:27:44.210 --> 01:27:49.210
I mean, if we build back
exactly as we had before,
01:27:50.025 --> 01:27:53.320
then we're destined
to sort of see the same
01:27:53.320 --> 01:27:55.940
sort of outcome in future events.
01:27:55.940 --> 01:27:58.320
So just kind of one
of the mitigation efforts
01:27:58.320 --> 01:28:01.670
you are focusing on and
how you're doing them?
01:28:03.007 --> 01:28:04.500
Now, I'll briefly
respond to that.
01:28:04.500 --> 01:28:08.650
But I think Travis, in his
slide, in two slides from now,
01:28:08.650 --> 01:28:09.990
we'll be going more into that.
01:28:09.990 --> 01:28:13.610
But our challenge is that
over 90% of our overhead lines
01:28:13.610 --> 01:28:16.670
are in high wildfire threat districts.
01:28:16.670 --> 01:28:20.080
If in a perfect world and we
had endless access to capital
01:28:20.080 --> 01:28:22.970
and we didn't have to impact rates,
01:28:22.970 --> 01:28:26.059
we would be doing a lot
more cover conductors
01:28:26.059 --> 01:28:28.840
and a lot more undergrounding.
01:28:28.840 --> 01:28:31.670
But unfortunately that
we have to balance
01:28:31.670 --> 01:28:35.141
both the needs of improving the system
01:28:35.141 --> 01:28:39.250
and at the same time trying to
manage the impacts on rates.
01:28:39.250 --> 01:28:41.530
And we take that very seriously.
01:28:41.530 --> 01:28:45.840
So what our challenge is
really, really focusing on
01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:49.720
and having a good criteria
around prioritizing the projects.
01:28:49.720 --> 01:28:53.230
And I would assume, and
Travis might be able to speak to it
01:28:53.230 --> 01:28:56.650
that this particular
main line to Markleeville
01:28:56.650 --> 01:28:59.780
is probably somewhere
in our overall planning,
01:28:59.780 --> 01:29:03.690
but there are other projects I
know there are other projects
01:29:03.690 --> 01:29:07.180
ahead of that one that have
been ranked a higher priority
01:29:07.180 --> 01:29:11.090
based on both our risk-based
decision-making framework,
01:29:11.090 --> 01:29:14.260
as well as other criteria
that we take into account.
01:29:14.260 --> 01:29:18.080
And so we're getting
better every year at it
01:29:18.080 --> 01:29:23.080
but as you can see the
system that we operate,
01:29:23.968 --> 01:29:28.968
it's very challenging to try
to do everything all at once.
01:29:29.610 --> 01:29:33.300
It's almost impossible, but
we appreciate that feedback.
01:29:33.300 --> 01:29:34.560
And when you come visit us,
01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:37.070
we could probably spend
some more time sharing with you,
01:29:37.070 --> 01:29:39.771
how we go about using
this criteria to really identify,
01:29:39.771 --> 01:29:41.966
evaluate, and select
01:29:41.966 --> 01:29:44.493
and prioritize the
projects we're gonna do.
01:29:47.192 --> 01:29:48.320
Great. Thanks.
01:29:48.320 --> 01:29:49.520
Appreciate the feedback.
01:29:50.480 --> 01:29:51.313
Okay.
01:29:52.277 --> 01:29:54.823
Can we advance to the next slide?
01:29:57.276 --> 01:29:58.109
Okay.
01:29:58.109 --> 01:30:02.380
So on publication, public
education, outreach improvements.
01:30:02.380 --> 01:30:04.945
This is one area that I have
taken a particular interest in,
01:30:04.945 --> 01:30:08.550
and I do work closely with
our customer service groups
01:30:08.550 --> 01:30:11.050
and our public outreach people,
01:30:11.050 --> 01:30:13.223
as well as our customer communications.
01:30:14.525 --> 01:30:18.800
I am happy to report that
we are making good progress
01:30:18.800 --> 01:30:21.980
in connecting with our
customers and local communities
01:30:21.980 --> 01:30:25.210
and educating them about
the wildfire threats and risks
01:30:25.210 --> 01:30:27.020
and our mitigation efforts and programs
01:30:27.020 --> 01:30:29.300
aimed at keeping our customers safe
01:30:29.300 --> 01:30:32.293
and minimizing as best
possible impact on our customers.
01:30:33.610 --> 01:30:36.067
We, of course like all
the other companies,
01:30:36.067 --> 01:30:39.940
we are continue to use
traditional communication means
01:30:39.940 --> 01:30:42.640
to public meeting formats,
01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:45.170
to get the message out to our customers.
01:30:45.170 --> 01:30:47.860
So far this year, we've
completed 12 public meetings
01:30:47.860 --> 01:30:50.430
with counties and
community organizations,
01:30:50.430 --> 01:30:54.100
14 targeted social media
posts on Twitter and Facebook
01:30:54.100 --> 01:30:56.630
and for direct mail and
email communications
01:30:56.630 --> 01:31:00.330
on specific subjects and
vegetation management.
01:31:00.330 --> 01:31:03.760
We also have several
people in our organization
01:31:03.760 --> 01:31:06.290
that are active in the
local communities.
01:31:06.290 --> 01:31:10.060
A number of our employees
are part of the local community
01:31:10.060 --> 01:31:11.640
and our customers.
01:31:11.640 --> 01:31:14.360
And so in addition to what we do here
01:31:14.360 --> 01:31:16.512
formally through our
communications program,
01:31:16.512 --> 01:31:19.420
we do have eyes and
ears in the local community
01:31:19.420 --> 01:31:22.940
and advancing our
messaging and try to get better
01:31:22.940 --> 01:31:25.900
at really identifying and meeting with
01:31:25.900 --> 01:31:29.233
and getting information
out to any and all customers.
01:31:30.900 --> 01:31:33.090
We have learned a lot
over the last three years,
01:31:33.090 --> 01:31:35.420
and we are applying these lessons
01:31:35.420 --> 01:31:38.633
to improve our public
education and outreach program.
01:31:39.981 --> 01:31:43.140
We are getting better
at this and notably
01:31:43.140 --> 01:31:45.130
we are making good
progress in registering
01:31:45.130 --> 01:31:48.103
and supporting our
medical baseline customers.
01:31:50.029 --> 01:31:53.290
I think one thing I'd
really like to note here,
01:31:53.290 --> 01:31:54.840
and I think this is a testament
01:31:55.975 --> 01:31:57.180
of the commitment of our team.
01:31:57.180 --> 01:31:59.630
Our customer service
team has called visited
01:31:59.630 --> 01:32:03.832
all 258 registered
medical baseline customers
01:32:03.832 --> 01:32:06.280
to update their contact information
01:32:06.280 --> 01:32:08.540
so that we've got good
contact information
01:32:08.540 --> 01:32:10.820
in the event we have an emergency
01:32:10.820 --> 01:32:13.570
and also they answer any
other questions they may have.
01:32:14.520 --> 01:32:18.070
Now we've got a lot of
work to do in this space
01:32:18.070 --> 01:32:19.639
and we know it.
01:32:19.639 --> 01:32:23.840
And I would say our biggest
challenge and top priority now
01:32:23.840 --> 01:32:27.151
is engaging supporting
the needs of our AFN
01:32:27.151 --> 01:32:29.116
and Spanish speaking customers.
01:32:29.116 --> 01:32:31.834
We are actively working
on creating partnerships
01:32:31.834 --> 01:32:34.590
with six local CBOs
01:32:34.590 --> 01:32:36.950
to assist with our
identification outreach
01:32:36.950 --> 01:32:38.520
and registration efforts,
01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:42.240
to customers with special
assistance and notification needs.
01:32:42.240 --> 01:32:46.080
We recently engaged
with the Washoe tribe,
01:32:46.080 --> 01:32:49.150
who are located in the Southern
end of our service territory
01:32:49.150 --> 01:32:52.300
to update them on our
response to outages in their area,
01:32:52.300 --> 01:32:54.170
caused by the Tamarack fire
01:32:54.170 --> 01:32:56.123
and discuss future collaboration.
01:32:57.200 --> 01:33:01.990
We have provided TBOs PSPS
toolkits in English and Spanish
01:33:01.990 --> 01:33:03.630
detailing what customers can do
01:33:03.630 --> 01:33:06.220
to be prepared for PSPS events
01:33:06.220 --> 01:33:07.920
and are prepared to provide the toolkit
01:33:07.920 --> 01:33:10.803
in other languages upon request.
01:33:13.400 --> 01:33:18.180
We were also working on
establishing a portal on our website
01:33:18.180 --> 01:33:21.080
for customers to self identify as AFN
01:33:21.080 --> 01:33:24.363
and expect this to be
in service by next month.
01:33:27.181 --> 01:33:31.370
And we are, what else are we doing here?
01:33:31.370 --> 01:33:35.840
We also are working to
identify additional CBOs,
01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:38.610
and this is probably the
biggest challenge for us
01:33:38.610 --> 01:33:41.720
because this is not a readily group
01:33:41.720 --> 01:33:44.100
that is easy to identify.
01:33:44.100 --> 01:33:48.090
We do not track that in our
customer information system.
01:33:48.090 --> 01:33:51.020
And so we'd had
particular challenges there.
01:33:51.020 --> 01:33:53.540
And one response has been of course,
01:33:53.540 --> 01:33:56.200
is to reaching out and
partnering with CBOs.
01:33:56.200 --> 01:33:59.240
But the other thing that
we identified and recognizes
01:33:59.240 --> 01:34:01.725
that we don't have enough resources
01:34:01.725 --> 01:34:03.680
on this particular challenge.
01:34:03.680 --> 01:34:06.470
And so we are in the process
of hiring two new positions
01:34:06.470 --> 01:34:10.280
to focus on deepening,
expanding the CBO partnerships.
01:34:10.280 --> 01:34:13.100
And we've also are hiring
one new bilingual position
01:34:13.100 --> 01:34:14.140
to perform outreach
01:34:15.152 --> 01:34:16.710
and support our Spanish
speaking customers.
01:34:16.710 --> 01:34:18.480
We have one of these positions
01:34:18.480 --> 01:34:20.934
will be filled a manager
of public outreach.
01:34:20.934 --> 01:34:24.920
The lady had accepted the position
01:34:24.920 --> 01:34:27.793
and we'll be starting in
the next couple of weeks.
01:34:28.887 --> 01:34:31.753
So finally I wanted to touch upon.
01:34:32.880 --> 01:34:35.950
We are also making good
progress on building relationships
01:34:35.950 --> 01:34:38.440
and coordinating with
the major communication
01:34:38.440 --> 01:34:40.320
carriers in our service area.
01:34:40.320 --> 01:34:42.300
We have established points of contact
01:34:42.300 --> 01:34:47.300
with Verizon, AT&T and Frontier
all of whom are now engaged
01:34:47.510 --> 01:34:51.290
in participating in our PSPS
exercise and wildfire safety
01:34:51.290 --> 01:34:53.140
to (mumbles) advisory board meetings.
01:34:55.700 --> 01:34:58.780
For taking into account the time here,
01:34:58.780 --> 01:35:01.140
I would like to advance
to the next slide
01:35:01.140 --> 01:35:04.650
and have Travis go ahead
and I'll turn it over to Travis
01:35:04.650 --> 01:35:06.752
to talk about grid hardening.
01:35:06.752 --> 01:35:08.870
Unless there's any questions
01:35:08.870 --> 01:35:10.623
that you want me to take right now.
01:35:12.970 --> 01:35:13.803
Okay.
01:35:13.803 --> 01:35:16.810
So Travis, it's I'll
turn it over to you.
01:35:16.810 --> 01:35:17.920
All right.
01:35:17.920 --> 01:35:19.110
So quick audio check.
01:35:19.110 --> 01:35:20.810
I'm assuming everyone can hear me.
01:35:23.290 --> 01:35:24.240
Okay.
01:35:24.240 --> 01:35:26.797
So I'd like to open if I could.
01:35:26.797 --> 01:35:28.650
First of all, President Batjer,
01:35:28.650 --> 01:35:31.500
thank you for the
opportunity to speak today.
01:35:31.500 --> 01:35:34.200
And President Batjer, (giggles)
01:35:34.200 --> 01:35:37.570
your comment was not lost upon us.
01:35:37.570 --> 01:35:40.390
We do have the backward complex fire,
01:35:40.390 --> 01:35:44.440
just adjacent to the
Northern portion of our system
01:35:44.440 --> 01:35:46.750
that certainly got the
blood pressure up.
01:35:46.750 --> 01:35:49.400
But thankfully we haven't
had any infrastructure damage
01:35:49.400 --> 01:35:50.763
from that fire.
01:35:50.763 --> 01:35:51.802
We do.
01:35:51.802 --> 01:35:55.562
It's interesting that 6.0 earthquake,
01:35:55.562 --> 01:35:57.650
the largest one in the Western US,
01:35:57.650 --> 01:35:59.230
I think in the last 25 years
01:35:59.230 --> 01:36:02.270
you have the center was
essentially Walker, California.
01:36:02.270 --> 01:36:06.800
It's those folks haven't had
enough hardship as of late.
01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:10.660
And then the Tamarack
fire is currently still active.
01:36:10.660 --> 01:36:14.180
And I think it's noteworthy
that we almost forget it,
01:36:14.180 --> 01:36:17.380
but all of this stuff is going
on during a global pandemic,
01:36:17.380 --> 01:36:21.180
which I never thought I
would have said these words
01:36:21.180 --> 01:36:23.070
altogether in a couple of sentences.
01:36:23.070 --> 01:36:26.043
So there's certainly
a lot going on here.
01:36:27.720 --> 01:36:31.110
So some of the system
hardening improvements
01:36:31.110 --> 01:36:32.910
that we just like to call out,
01:36:32.910 --> 01:36:36.743
we are doing quite a bit of
covered conductor work as well.
01:36:37.760 --> 01:36:39.990
I think we're up to over seven miles
01:36:41.420 --> 01:36:44.080
of covered conductor in the air now.
01:36:44.080 --> 01:36:45.480
Majority in the Tahoe Basin
01:36:45.480 --> 01:36:49.373
with some down on the
Walker/Coleville area.
01:36:49.373 --> 01:36:53.568
The one of our kind of flagship things
01:36:53.568 --> 01:36:55.580
that we're pretty proud of
01:36:55.580 --> 01:36:58.630
is the Sagehen Microgrid project.
01:36:58.630 --> 01:37:01.690
This is a Microgrid that we installed
01:37:01.690 --> 01:37:03.810
that powers the University of Berkeley's
01:37:03.810 --> 01:37:06.430
a Sagehen Creek Field Station.
01:37:06.430 --> 01:37:09.210
And essentially what
this project allows us to do
01:37:09.210 --> 01:37:13.360
is de-energize around
three miles of distribution line
01:37:13.360 --> 01:37:14.710
that goes through some pretty remote
01:37:14.710 --> 01:37:16.860
and challenging terrain.
01:37:16.860 --> 01:37:20.170
So currently, as of May
early May of this year,
01:37:20.170 --> 01:37:22.570
we power that lateral down
01:37:22.570 --> 01:37:25.770
and we're feeding the campus
completely with our solar
01:37:26.760 --> 01:37:28.500
array there and battery storage.
01:37:28.500 --> 01:37:30.670
And so far we've been doing great,
01:37:30.670 --> 01:37:32.170
state of charge has been solid,
01:37:32.170 --> 01:37:35.600
and we haven't had to rely
on the distribution lateral
01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:36.910
to power that campus.
01:37:36.910 --> 01:37:39.443
So that's been pretty exciting for us.
01:37:40.830 --> 01:37:44.664
One of the details behind
our pole replacement program
01:37:44.664 --> 01:37:48.390
is I think as most folks
on this WebEx know,
01:37:48.390 --> 01:37:50.140
we're required to only inspect
01:37:50.140 --> 01:37:52.860
about 20% of our poles each year.
01:37:52.860 --> 01:37:55.760
Well, we took the
initiative last early last year.
01:37:55.760 --> 01:37:57.410
We said, that's not good enough for us
01:37:57.410 --> 01:38:00.390
in these conditions that
we're now the new normal.
01:38:00.390 --> 01:38:02.750
So we actually went out and inspected
01:38:02.750 --> 01:38:06.540
every single one of our poles
in the calendar year of 2020.
01:38:07.540 --> 01:38:09.033
So that's five times
more inspection work
01:38:09.033 --> 01:38:10.820
than we're used to,
01:38:10.820 --> 01:38:14.470
which of course would
generate a lot more repairs
01:38:14.470 --> 01:38:16.520
once you go out looking for issues.
01:38:16.520 --> 01:38:19.850
So the pole replacements
that we're doing now
01:38:19.850 --> 01:38:24.540
are just enormous, five times
more than we normally would
01:38:25.400 --> 01:38:28.910
on top of a large spin
up in CapEx related
01:38:28.910 --> 01:38:30.883
spending on covered conductor.
01:38:31.847 --> 01:38:34.180
So lots going on here in the Tahoe area
01:38:35.285 --> 01:38:37.110
regarding those items.
01:38:37.110 --> 01:38:39.280
Fuse replacements I think
we all know what those are.
01:38:39.280 --> 01:38:42.870
Expulsion fuses in that hot
particles when they operate.
01:38:42.870 --> 01:38:46.643
So we're working diligently
to get those changed out.
01:38:46.643 --> 01:38:51.320
Tree attachments may
not be totally known
01:38:51.320 --> 01:38:55.620
everywhere in California,
but up in the Tahoe area,
01:38:55.620 --> 01:38:57.956
the prior owner of
this utility utilized,
01:38:57.956 --> 01:39:00.080
and it was kind of
common practice back then
01:39:00.080 --> 01:39:02.490
uses threes to run service wire to home.
01:39:02.490 --> 01:39:05.415
So we're getting rid
of those attachments
01:39:05.415 --> 01:39:09.620
'cause trees continue to
move and die over time.
01:39:09.620 --> 01:39:12.560
And we don't wanna have our
service wire hooked up to those.
01:39:12.560 --> 01:39:15.903
We're doing quite a bit of a
wire upgrade projects as well.
01:39:17.282 --> 01:39:19.200
And the things that aren't on here
01:39:19.200 --> 01:39:22.070
that I do think are
worthy of touching on
01:39:22.070 --> 01:39:25.460
is in King's Beach we deCommissioned
01:39:25.460 --> 01:39:27.860
very old substation called Brockway Sub
01:39:27.860 --> 01:39:32.520
and Commissioner
Guzman (indistinct) and team
01:39:32.520 --> 01:39:34.880
had the opportunity to tour that.
01:39:34.880 --> 01:39:38.640
I believe it was late 2019 or early 2020
01:39:38.640 --> 01:39:40.161
before the pandemic.
01:39:40.161 --> 01:39:42.170
Very pleased to say that substation
01:39:42.170 --> 01:39:45.770
is not only de-energized, it
is gone and we've replaced it
01:39:45.770 --> 01:39:48.490
with a new metal
clad switchgear station,
01:39:48.490 --> 01:39:50.130
just up the street at King's Beach Sub.
01:39:50.130 --> 01:39:54.280
So that one, I just a huge
thanks to the Commission
01:39:54.280 --> 01:39:57.323
and partnering with us to get
that approved and eliminated.
01:39:59.780 --> 01:40:02.400
Let's see here, a couple
other things on the list
01:40:02.400 --> 01:40:03.250
that I wanted to share
01:40:03.250 --> 01:40:05.928
as we were also doing a high impedance,
01:40:05.928 --> 01:40:06.761
all detection partnership
01:40:06.761 --> 01:40:08.660
with the University of Nevada, Reno.
01:40:08.660 --> 01:40:13.450
And so for the non
protection engineers on the call
01:40:13.450 --> 01:40:15.010
that if you have a high impedance fall,
01:40:15.010 --> 01:40:16.940
something like a tree
leaning on the line,
01:40:16.940 --> 01:40:19.430
but may not be
establishing fault current,
01:40:19.430 --> 01:40:21.000
those are hard to detect sometimes.
01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:23.460
So we're working with UNR there
01:40:23.460 --> 01:40:26.856
to improve our ability
to see those issues
01:40:26.856 --> 01:40:30.200
before we do have
some type of ignition start.
01:40:30.200 --> 01:40:32.442
We're also working with
Texas A&M on a DFA
01:40:32.442 --> 01:40:35.380
that's distribution fault anticipation.
01:40:35.380 --> 01:40:38.900
We heard Pacific Corp talking about that
01:40:38.900 --> 01:40:40.600
with wave form analytics.
01:40:40.600 --> 01:40:42.749
So certainly exciting stuff there.
01:40:42.749 --> 01:40:47.470
And essentially that's
detecting that fault
01:40:47.470 --> 01:40:49.370
before the fault current,
01:40:49.370 --> 01:40:52.403
before that actual arc burst happens.
01:40:52.403 --> 01:40:57.183
So excited to see how
that program pans out.
01:40:58.610 --> 01:41:00.770
So those are the
highlights I wanted to share
01:41:00.770 --> 01:41:03.800
on grid and Hardy,
excuse me, grid hardening.
01:41:03.800 --> 01:41:05.976
And now I'll pass it back over to Chris,
01:41:05.976 --> 01:41:07.220
to take the next slide.
01:41:07.220 --> 01:41:08.250
Yeah.
01:41:08.250 --> 01:41:10.030
It's Daniel,
before you move on
01:41:10.030 --> 01:41:11.640
it just a quick question.
01:41:11.640 --> 01:41:13.940
Thank you for the
numbers here on your home
01:41:13.940 --> 01:41:15.990
or on your infrastructure hardening,
01:41:15.990 --> 01:41:17.970
but do you have any measurable targets
01:41:17.970 --> 01:41:18.820
for what you've been able
01:41:18.820 --> 01:41:20.710
to actually accomplish here in 2021,
01:41:20.710 --> 01:41:23.410
again, acknowledging that
you have been redirected
01:41:23.410 --> 01:41:27.280
and focused on
rebuilding a lot of your line,
01:41:27.280 --> 01:41:29.640
but do you have any idea of
the percentage of completion
01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:31.803
for, for this year's goals?
01:41:33.030 --> 01:41:34.750
Okay, a
very good question.
01:41:34.750 --> 01:41:37.260
So first I did wanna take an opportunity
01:41:37.260 --> 01:41:40.087
to address the earlier
question about rebuilding
01:41:40.087 --> 01:41:42.130
and the Markleeville area.
01:41:42.130 --> 01:41:45.630
So the near term goal is unfortunately
01:41:46.890 --> 01:41:50.430
all of the trees adjacent
to our burn line were killed.
01:41:50.430 --> 01:41:53.500
So we took the opportunity
to work with those landowners
01:41:53.500 --> 01:41:57.150
to remove any tree that
had striked just since,
01:41:57.150 --> 01:41:59.596
within strike distance in our line.
01:41:59.596 --> 01:42:02.720
So from a fire safety
perspective that right away now,
01:42:02.720 --> 01:42:04.250
it looks like a transmission corridor
01:42:04.250 --> 01:42:06.270
along that distribution feeder.
01:42:06.270 --> 01:42:08.730
So that's the short
term sort of strategy
01:42:08.730 --> 01:42:13.730
we've come in with much
higher class poles in most cases,
01:42:14.130 --> 01:42:17.700
so stronger poles, but a
very, very clear right away
01:42:17.700 --> 01:42:19.000
is the short-term strategy.
01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:21.440
And then as we move
into the latter years,
01:42:21.440 --> 01:42:24.040
it will be a covered
conductor opportunity.
01:42:24.040 --> 01:42:25.090
And as Chris mentioned,
01:42:25.090 --> 01:42:27.010
that's just a little bit
lower down the priority.
01:42:27.010 --> 01:42:28.469
Now that's out right away.
01:42:28.469 --> 01:42:30.723
It looks like a transmission corridor.
01:42:31.750 --> 01:42:34.120
So regarding being on
track and on schedule
01:42:34.120 --> 01:42:35.470
for a covered conducted projects,
01:42:35.470 --> 01:42:37.530
we still expect to have those completed
01:42:37.530 --> 01:42:40.930
by the end of our construction season.
01:42:40.930 --> 01:42:42.460
And I think it's worthy to point out
01:42:42.460 --> 01:42:44.550
for the team on the phone.
01:42:44.550 --> 01:42:47.560
We have a very unique
circumstance in Tahoe,
01:42:47.560 --> 01:42:48.747
in the basin here
01:42:48.747 --> 01:42:51.550
and here we can only build
in what we call dig season,
01:42:51.550 --> 01:42:53.560
which is May 1st to October 15th.
01:42:53.560 --> 01:42:55.410
So we have a very tight window
01:42:55.410 --> 01:42:56.690
to actually get projects done.
01:42:56.690 --> 01:42:59.510
And that's regarding water
clarity for the Tahoe Basin.
01:42:59.510 --> 01:43:01.420
We don't wanna have
a lot of soil disturbance
01:43:01.420 --> 01:43:04.165
and cause a degradation of clarity.
01:43:04.165 --> 01:43:06.410
So yes, we are on schedule
01:43:06.410 --> 01:43:08.647
for our cover conductor projects in '21,
01:43:08.647 --> 01:43:11.130
and we should get those wrapped up.
01:43:11.130 --> 01:43:12.480
Well, I applaud you again.
01:43:12.480 --> 01:43:13.490
That's gotta be tough work
01:43:13.490 --> 01:43:15.230
with all the rebuilding that's going on.
01:43:15.230 --> 01:43:16.530
So thank you for that.
01:43:16.530 --> 01:43:18.343
Appreciate the explanation.
01:43:19.210 --> 01:43:20.090
Yeah.
01:43:20.090 --> 01:43:22.390
I just wanted to add a
couple of comments too.
01:43:23.361 --> 01:43:28.361
So I actually just checked
and we are tracking to complete
01:43:30.100 --> 01:43:33.210
our entire capital program
for wildfire mitigation.
01:43:33.210 --> 01:43:34.043
You can see it.
01:43:34.043 --> 01:43:36.030
I think it's $34 million number,
01:43:36.030 --> 01:43:38.091
actually, it's higher than that.
01:43:38.091 --> 01:43:40.079
We've added some more projects.
01:43:40.079 --> 01:43:41.985
We are probably by the end of the year,
01:43:41.985 --> 01:43:43.680
we're gonna complete
potentially up to $40 million
01:43:43.680 --> 01:43:45.080
of capital improvements
01:43:45.080 --> 01:43:48.309
targeted specifically
at wildfire mitigation.
01:43:48.309 --> 01:43:50.300
The other thing I wanted to comment too
01:43:50.300 --> 01:43:53.190
is is that we actually
received a number of awards
01:43:53.190 --> 01:43:55.306
on that Microgrid project up at Sagehen.
01:43:55.306 --> 01:44:00.306
And now what we're doing as
part of our feasibility analysis
01:44:01.070 --> 01:44:03.400
for our cover conductor projects,
01:44:03.400 --> 01:44:05.540
we do a alternative analysis
01:44:05.540 --> 01:44:07.410
on each and every cover conductor
01:44:07.410 --> 01:44:11.240
to see if there is the
possibility to utilize a Microgrid,
01:44:11.240 --> 01:44:13.420
to either replace the cover conductor
01:44:13.420 --> 01:44:16.630
or in some cases shortened
to cover conductor link.
01:44:16.630 --> 01:44:18.940
And so it was a great
learning opportunity
01:44:18.940 --> 01:44:20.130
to Sagehen project.
01:44:20.130 --> 01:44:21.810
It worked out very well.
01:44:21.810 --> 01:44:24.610
And so we're taking that success
01:44:24.610 --> 01:44:27.160
and now we're looking to see
if we can deploy it elsewhere
01:44:27.160 --> 01:44:28.540
in the service area.
01:44:28.540 --> 01:44:33.540
Which not only will, help us
lower, get more work done.
01:44:33.781 --> 01:44:36.823
But the other thing it does too,
01:44:36.823 --> 01:44:38.430
is it is a lower cost
option in many cases
01:44:38.430 --> 01:44:40.510
to and to the coverage conductor.
01:44:40.510 --> 01:44:43.110
So we're getting a better
bang for the buck as well.
01:44:44.370 --> 01:44:46.262
So with that, why
don't we go ahead and--
01:44:46.262 --> 01:44:47.095
Sorry.
01:44:47.095 --> 01:44:48.640
Can I ask a clarifying question on that
01:44:48.640 --> 01:44:52.610
and why does the source of energy impact
01:44:52.610 --> 01:44:55.160
whether or not you should
have a covered conductor?
01:44:57.430 --> 01:45:01.997
How's the Microgrid as a
source of energy impact wires?
01:45:05.620 --> 01:45:08.030
Well, what it basically
allows us to do Commissioner,
01:45:08.030 --> 01:45:12.520
it allows us to take that
three mile stretch of line
01:45:12.520 --> 01:45:15.260
to take it out of service
during the wildfire season.
01:45:15.260 --> 01:45:18.700
So what we basically
do that mile that Microgrid
01:45:18.700 --> 01:45:21.824
during the wildfire season
supplies 100% of the power
01:45:21.824 --> 01:45:24.670
to that Sagehen facility.
01:45:24.670 --> 01:45:27.320
And it allows us to take out a service
01:45:27.320 --> 01:45:31.380
aligned in a very high fire, okay?
01:45:31.380 --> 01:45:33.260
Yeah. Thank you.
01:45:33.260 --> 01:45:34.677
You're welcome.
01:45:35.560 --> 01:45:37.893
Should we go ahead and
advance to the next slide?
01:45:40.691 --> 01:45:43.510
So I talked a lot about AFN
and vulnerable customers,
01:45:43.510 --> 01:45:45.650
and if there's more questions
on that, I can answer them.
01:45:45.650 --> 01:45:49.120
But for the balance of the time here,
01:45:49.120 --> 01:45:52.870
I really would like to
give Travis an opportunity
01:45:52.870 --> 01:45:54.070
to share with the group here,
01:45:54.070 --> 01:45:57.410
what we're doing with respect
to our resiliency program.
01:45:57.410 --> 01:46:01.020
And specifically we have
a very innovative project
01:46:01.020 --> 01:46:03.360
that we're gonna be bringing
forward to the Commission here
01:46:03.360 --> 01:46:07.010
in short order, probably
within the next 30 to 60 days.
01:46:07.010 --> 01:46:07.843
But Travis,
01:46:07.843 --> 01:46:10.853
why don't you share with
them our resiliency program?
01:46:12.320 --> 01:46:13.250
Thank you for that, Chris.
01:46:13.250 --> 01:46:15.810
So this is an exciting program where
01:46:17.324 --> 01:46:22.324
we're looking to deploy over
300 behind the meter batteries.
01:46:22.660 --> 01:46:25.940
And so the target is
around 272 batteries
01:46:25.940 --> 01:46:28.960
for medical baseline customers.
01:46:28.960 --> 01:46:32.540
There would be around 35
for critical facility customers
01:46:32.540 --> 01:46:36.280
and then another 20 to 21 batteries,
01:46:36.280 --> 01:46:41.280
large battery systems for
large customers in that category.
01:46:42.330 --> 01:46:45.037
So these would be owned
and operated by Liberty,
01:46:45.037 --> 01:46:49.150
and we could also deploy
them as a virtual power plant
01:46:49.150 --> 01:46:53.400
to achieve demand, charge
savings from NB energy
01:46:53.400 --> 01:46:55.420
to help fund the program.
01:46:55.420 --> 01:46:58.480
So what we wanted to do
is reach out to our customers
01:46:58.480 --> 01:47:00.050
as we were crafting this program
01:47:00.050 --> 01:47:01.530
to get a lot of input from them.
01:47:01.530 --> 01:47:05.320
So we've received 388 surveys
01:47:05.320 --> 01:47:10.320
completed from our customer
base on this resiliency program
01:47:10.600 --> 01:47:14.053
and including 30 from critical care
01:47:14.053 --> 01:47:16.945
or green cross customers
on their thoughts.
01:47:16.945 --> 01:47:19.150
So what we're essentially
gonna do with this information
01:47:19.150 --> 01:47:22.085
is package it all together,
take that feedback.
01:47:22.085 --> 01:47:23.067
And then as Chris said,
01:47:23.067 --> 01:47:24.780
we're gonna approach the Commission here
01:47:24.780 --> 01:47:27.840
in short order with this program.
01:47:27.840 --> 01:47:29.730
Another part of--
01:47:29.730 --> 01:47:31.853
Can I ask you,
sorry to interrupt you.
01:47:32.990 --> 01:47:36.070
How does that compare to the universe
01:47:36.070 --> 01:47:38.593
of your medical baseline customers 300?
01:47:39.526 --> 01:47:42.510
You said you're targeting 300 customers
01:47:42.510 --> 01:47:45.420
in 35 critical care facilities.
01:47:45.420 --> 01:47:49.080
I believe in, and Chris it's
helped me from a memory here,
01:47:49.080 --> 01:47:52.080
but I think that gets
essentially almost 100%
01:47:52.080 --> 01:47:54.437
of our green cross customers.
01:47:54.437 --> 01:47:55.270
Yeah.
01:47:55.270 --> 01:47:56.546
Yes, Commissioner
01:47:56.546 --> 01:48:00.560
right now we have registered
258 medical baseline customers.
01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:03.270
So the program would
cover all the, that would,
01:48:03.270 --> 01:48:05.890
they would receive first
priority of the batteries
01:48:05.890 --> 01:48:07.890
our medical baseline customers.
01:48:07.890 --> 01:48:10.590
And then the balance of
the batteries, then we would,
01:48:10.590 --> 01:48:13.550
we would look to deploy,
01:48:13.550 --> 01:48:16.300
as Travis said to critical facilities
01:48:16.300 --> 01:48:19.540
and then possibly some
of our larger customers.
01:48:19.540 --> 01:48:22.583
We see this as a very
exciting program, actually.
01:48:24.070 --> 01:48:24.903
Okay. I was--
01:48:24.903 --> 01:48:27.610
It's also something that
helps us in the winter months too
01:48:27.610 --> 01:48:31.820
where we have outages the
medical medical baseline customers
01:48:31.820 --> 01:48:32.780
will be protected
01:48:32.780 --> 01:48:35.470
because they will have
of these batteries in place.
01:48:35.470 --> 01:48:37.422
I excuse me for interrupting you.
01:48:37.422 --> 01:48:38.810
No, no, that's okay, Chris.
01:48:38.810 --> 01:48:42.170
I will, of course look carefully
at what you submit to us.
01:48:42.170 --> 01:48:46.310
I would just say that
some of the backup power,
01:48:46.310 --> 01:48:47.930
the batteries that the utilities
01:48:47.930 --> 01:48:50.130
other utilities have been providing
01:48:50.130 --> 01:48:52.610
to provide backup service.
01:48:52.610 --> 01:48:56.300
In some cases they're
easily able to be also used
01:48:57.168 --> 01:49:01.270
for demand reduction and
demand management purposes
01:49:01.270 --> 01:49:03.370
and other cases, purposes diverge.
01:49:03.370 --> 01:49:07.040
So it's a little bit tricky
and we just wanna make,
01:49:07.040 --> 01:49:09.730
in this context, we're most
interested in seeing them
01:49:09.730 --> 01:49:13.840
use to provide the backup
power needed to critical times.
01:49:13.840 --> 01:49:16.442
I'm sure you've thought
a great deal about that,
01:49:16.442 --> 01:49:18.092
but I just wanna underscore that.
01:49:19.138 --> 01:49:21.500
That's a great
point Commissioner,
01:49:21.500 --> 01:49:25.860
certainly inbound storm
dispatching that energy
01:49:25.860 --> 01:49:28.883
to take care of the demand
charge for the month is not,
01:49:30.380 --> 01:49:32.130
is not the way we've planned to do that.
01:49:32.130 --> 01:49:37.130
Or certainly with
impending PSPS conditions.
01:49:37.210 --> 01:49:38.043
Absolutely not.
01:49:38.043 --> 01:49:40.360
So a very point well-taken.
01:49:40.360 --> 01:49:42.930
I just wanted to point
out one other component.
01:49:42.930 --> 01:49:45.317
Before I moved to the second tier
01:49:45.317 --> 01:49:46.620
of this resiliency program.
01:49:46.620 --> 01:49:48.300
For low-income customers
01:49:48.300 --> 01:49:50.370
they would actually
receive that service,
01:49:50.370 --> 01:49:52.060
the medical baseline low-income
01:49:52.060 --> 01:49:54.320
they would receive the service for free.
01:49:54.320 --> 01:49:55.610
And the way we've designed it
01:49:55.610 --> 01:49:57.560
as part of the demand charge savings
01:49:57.560 --> 01:49:59.400
would help fund that portion.
01:49:59.400 --> 01:50:02.350
So look forward to getting
that application together,
01:50:02.350 --> 01:50:06.203
to provide much more detail,
but we are excited about that.
01:50:07.742 --> 01:50:10.630
Chris and Travis,
I hate to interrupt
01:50:10.630 --> 01:50:13.323
'cause we're in a really critical time,
01:50:13.323 --> 01:50:15.900
but we are hopelessly
behind schedule today,
01:50:15.900 --> 01:50:17.587
and it's not your fault.
01:50:17.587 --> 01:50:21.840
These have been robust,
important discussions that we have
01:50:21.840 --> 01:50:25.180
with you as well as with Pacific Corp,
01:50:25.180 --> 01:50:27.610
but we're almost an hour behind.
01:50:27.610 --> 01:50:30.110
So I hate to do this to you,
01:50:30.110 --> 01:50:32.440
but we're gonna need to sort of wrap up
01:50:32.440 --> 01:50:35.410
and I know you've got some
important things in front of us
01:50:35.410 --> 01:50:36.433
in your slide deck,
01:50:37.340 --> 01:50:41.870
and I hate to, particularly
as your AFN discussions,
01:50:41.870 --> 01:50:44.310
because that's critically
important to all of us.
01:50:44.310 --> 01:50:46.040
Just wanna say one last thing.
01:50:46.040 --> 01:50:49.950
It seems like your AFN community
I'm from Northern Nevada.
01:50:49.950 --> 01:50:52.040
I know your territory extremely well.
01:50:52.040 --> 01:50:54.160
I grew up in Carson City, Nevada,
01:50:54.160 --> 01:50:56.740
and my family was from Smith Valley.
01:50:56.740 --> 01:51:00.330
So I know your backyard really well,
01:51:00.330 --> 01:51:02.240
but I can't believe
01:51:02.240 --> 01:51:05.822
that you have so few medical
baseline folks signed up.
01:51:05.822 --> 01:51:08.520
So it just, that seems
like a very small number.
01:51:08.520 --> 01:51:09.740
I know you're working hard on it,
01:51:09.740 --> 01:51:11.940
but it seems like a
very, very small number.
01:51:13.950 --> 01:51:17.490
Yeah, well, hopefully
we're gonna get better at this
01:51:17.490 --> 01:51:21.000
and we are committed
and focused on identification
01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:25.680
and registration and the
next time we get together,
01:51:25.680 --> 01:51:28.000
hopefully we'll have
better, better results
01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:31.574
and better, better
numbers for you as well,
01:51:31.574 --> 01:51:33.460
President Batjer.
01:51:33.460 --> 01:51:35.230
Yeah, I look forward to that
01:51:35.230 --> 01:51:38.560
and I know that my fellow
Commissioners do as well.
01:51:38.560 --> 01:51:39.760
Okay.
01:51:39.760 --> 01:51:42.540
So we hear you on the time crunch here.
01:51:42.540 --> 01:51:46.480
So I'm gonna go ahead
and turn it over and to Elliot.
01:51:46.480 --> 01:51:49.490
Elliot, can you quickly
walk them through
01:51:49.490 --> 01:51:52.950
our PSPS decision-making matrix
01:51:52.950 --> 01:51:55.080
and then we'll see
how much time is left.
01:51:55.080 --> 01:51:57.390
I think this is critical
for the Commissioners
01:51:57.390 --> 01:51:59.373
and our state agency representatives
01:51:59.373 --> 01:52:02.100
to understand how we do this.
01:52:02.100 --> 01:52:05.253
So we'll go ahead and please
advance to the next slide.
01:52:07.489 --> 01:52:10.360
Thank you, Chris.
01:52:10.360 --> 01:52:15.290
And I will do my best to
provide the information
01:52:15.290 --> 01:52:19.206
as accurately as possible
and as abbreviated as possible
01:52:19.206 --> 01:52:21.363
if I can here.
01:52:21.363 --> 01:52:23.970
So what's we're gonna move into
01:52:24.926 --> 01:52:28.220
is our PSPS decision
making criteria and modeling
01:52:28.220 --> 01:52:31.721
as discussed before
we have not activated
01:52:31.721 --> 01:52:32.837
at public safety power shutoff,
01:52:32.837 --> 01:52:35.500
that we've put a lot of
effort into our preparedness
01:52:35.500 --> 01:52:37.313
in the event that we do have one.
01:52:38.220 --> 01:52:39.713
It really is a last resort.
01:52:41.167 --> 01:52:43.720
And so the decision
tree that you see here
01:52:43.720 --> 01:52:47.450
is sort of our criteria
01:52:47.450 --> 01:52:49.780
should note that we've
broken down our territory
01:52:49.780 --> 01:52:52.850
into 46 PSPS zones
01:52:52.850 --> 01:52:55.722
that would each receive
an individual forecast,
01:52:55.722 --> 01:52:59.563
looking at these factors that
you see here on this screen.
01:53:00.830 --> 01:53:03.463
The first one, there being
energy release component.
01:53:04.490 --> 01:53:07.190
And without going into too much detail,
01:53:07.190 --> 01:53:09.913
that's a measure of
vegetation flammability.
01:53:11.470 --> 01:53:15.600
You know, when, when
conditions are beyond our threshold,
01:53:15.600 --> 01:53:16.830
we're monitoring that.
01:53:16.830 --> 01:53:19.663
And then moving into
monitoring wind speeds,
01:53:20.570 --> 01:53:23.572
where over 40 miles an
hour is what our analysis
01:53:23.572 --> 01:53:28.135
shows is sort of an exponential increase
01:53:28.135 --> 01:53:32.070
in outages beyond 40 miles per hour.
01:53:32.070 --> 01:53:34.400
So that's another one of our factors.
01:53:34.400 --> 01:53:37.940
And then the other one is
mentioned earlier by Pacific Corp
01:53:37.940 --> 01:53:40.410
as the (indistinct) fire weather index,
01:53:40.410 --> 01:53:43.563
looking at temperature,
wind, and relative humidity.
01:53:45.151 --> 01:53:49.140
So really we were looking
at forecast every six hours
01:53:49.140 --> 01:53:53.240
for all of those 46 zones
and evaluating these factors.
01:53:53.240 --> 01:53:56.460
And we have the
ability to make a decision
01:53:56.460 --> 01:53:59.850
within any one of those
zones around PSPS.
01:54:03.020 --> 01:54:05.163
I will go to the next slide now.
01:54:07.960 --> 01:54:10.870
So just wanted to note with this one,
01:54:10.870 --> 01:54:12.610
that we're always looking for ways
01:54:12.610 --> 01:54:14.240
that we can improve our decision-making
01:54:14.240 --> 01:54:16.376
and our situational awareness.
01:54:16.376 --> 01:54:20.700
And so this is sort of a
new decision-making criteria
01:54:20.700 --> 01:54:22.923
that we are evaluating right now,
01:54:24.160 --> 01:54:27.600
sort of in parallel to
our distinct criteria.
01:54:27.600 --> 01:54:32.430
And so this one utilizes wind
speed and burning indexes.
01:54:32.430 --> 01:54:34.323
Our key decision making factors.
01:54:35.630 --> 01:54:39.480
Burning index or BI is
really a combination of
01:54:39.480 --> 01:54:41.700
how fast the fire will spread.
01:54:41.700 --> 01:54:45.660
And also the flammability
of the vegetation,
01:54:45.660 --> 01:54:47.683
which is the energy release component.
01:54:48.791 --> 01:54:51.610
So really it's a measure of flame length
01:54:51.610 --> 01:54:54.255
and flame lengths above eight feet
01:54:54.255 --> 01:54:57.100
can present serious control
problems and firefighting effort
01:54:57.100 --> 01:55:00.450
that the head of the firewall
likely be unsuccessful
01:55:00.450 --> 01:55:03.560
from what our analysis
has shown in the past.
01:55:03.560 --> 01:55:07.363
And so really the
idea here is to capture,
01:55:08.570 --> 01:55:10.570
extreme wind driven events
01:55:12.617 --> 01:55:17.360
that our other criteria
may or may not catch
01:55:17.360 --> 01:55:19.550
in the same manner
sort of in the late season
01:55:19.550 --> 01:55:21.083
or maybe even early season.
01:55:22.208 --> 01:55:24.270
So like I said, we are evaluating,
01:55:24.270 --> 01:55:26.220
this is just one more factor,
01:55:26.220 --> 01:55:29.410
one more tool in the tool
box that we're looking at
01:55:29.410 --> 01:55:33.300
when we are evaluating
the extreme fire conditions.
01:55:33.300 --> 01:55:36.460
And then also combining
that with, as Chris mentioned,
01:55:36.460 --> 01:55:40.290
our proactive patrols during
elevated weather events,
01:55:40.290 --> 01:55:44.130
taking those field
observations from our line crew,
01:55:44.130 --> 01:55:46.520
the staff that are out
there inspecting lines,
01:55:46.520 --> 01:55:50.240
and just as a way to continue to learn
01:55:50.240 --> 01:55:51.990
from these elevated weather events.
01:55:53.349 --> 01:55:55.550
(mumbles) Next slide, please.
01:55:57.724 --> 01:55:59.307
Is there a comment?
01:55:59.307 --> 01:56:00.820
Can I just make a comment?
01:56:00.820 --> 01:56:05.190
And this is a comment
to the other small I'll use.
01:56:05.190 --> 01:56:06.970
I should've made it
to Pacific Corp as well.
01:56:06.970 --> 01:56:09.520
I don't know, were you able
to listen to the presentations
01:56:09.520 --> 01:56:11.770
the past couple of days
from the larger IOUs?
01:56:13.550 --> 01:56:15.613
I was able to listen to
01:56:15.613 --> 01:56:17.430
the San Diego Gas&Electric.
01:56:17.430 --> 01:56:18.450
So I haven't had a chance
01:56:18.450 --> 01:56:21.220
to catch up on the other two yesterday.
01:56:21.220 --> 01:56:22.900
I just wanted to make a point
01:56:22.900 --> 01:56:24.770
and we can follow up offline
01:56:24.770 --> 01:56:26.090
as I'm sure you will know.
01:56:26.090 --> 01:56:28.180
They have increasingly sophisticated
01:56:28.180 --> 01:56:33.180
machine learning
methodology for evaluating
01:56:33.830 --> 01:56:36.260
the potential of admissions
spread and so forth.
01:56:36.260 --> 01:56:40.291
And I think that I don't
think they're proprietary.
01:56:40.291 --> 01:56:42.570
I don't know how if
you have the capability
01:56:42.570 --> 01:56:45.080
to use all of them with
the most recent iteration,
01:56:45.080 --> 01:56:47.150
but they keep improving them.
01:56:47.150 --> 01:56:50.514
And we've heard from PGE
about a probabilistic weather
01:56:50.514 --> 01:56:55.120
tool that they're now adding
to their fire potential index.
01:56:55.120 --> 01:56:58.940
I would just urge you in
Pacific Corp and Bear Valley
01:56:58.940 --> 01:57:01.236
and others to see what you can borrow
01:57:01.236 --> 01:57:03.380
from those technologies.
01:57:03.380 --> 01:57:05.900
Because as I say, I don't think that
01:57:05.900 --> 01:57:06.980
they're all proprietary.
01:57:06.980 --> 01:57:09.310
I think they've been sharing those
01:57:09.310 --> 01:57:10.190
and you could benefit
01:57:10.190 --> 01:57:13.183
from the increasingly
sophisticated tools they're using.
01:57:15.160 --> 01:57:17.866
Thank you for
that Commissioner.
01:57:17.866 --> 01:57:20.834
Well, definitely
something we're monitoring
01:57:20.834 --> 01:57:25.348
and we're always looking
to learn and improve.
01:57:25.348 --> 01:57:28.850
So definitely noted and we will key in
01:57:28.850 --> 01:57:31.807
on some of those factors
that the large utilities
01:57:31.807 --> 01:57:32.850
are looking into.
01:57:32.850 --> 01:57:33.870
So thank you.
01:57:33.870 --> 01:57:34.703
Thank you.
01:57:34.703 --> 01:57:37.760
I do know, I do know
that indeed they will share.
01:57:37.760 --> 01:57:41.138
I've asked San Diego's SDG
01:57:41.138 --> 01:57:42.940
and you had asked that
question specifically of them
01:57:42.940 --> 01:57:44.950
they'll even share algorithms
01:57:44.950 --> 01:57:46.820
that they've developed, et cetera.
01:57:46.820 --> 01:57:49.440
So I think a meeting with them
01:57:49.440 --> 01:57:51.684
would be very, very helpful to.
01:57:51.684 --> 01:57:53.450
Excellent.
01:57:53.450 --> 01:57:54.283
Yeah. Thank you.
01:57:54.283 --> 01:57:55.513
Again, I'm watching the clock
01:57:55.513 --> 01:57:58.330
it's getting really nervous,
everybody. (laughs)
01:57:58.330 --> 01:58:01.410
You know what,
Elliot, I'll wrap up here.
01:58:01.410 --> 01:58:04.190
Let me do the vegetation
threat real quick for you.
01:58:04.190 --> 01:58:08.160
So basically what this slide
shows is is that five years ago
01:58:08.160 --> 01:58:13.160
we were working about
for about 3,500 trees a year,
01:58:14.234 --> 01:58:16.150
fast forward to 2020.
01:58:16.150 --> 01:58:19.240
We're now working in
excess of 13,000 trees a year
01:58:19.240 --> 01:58:21.310
by working at is that's either training
01:58:21.310 --> 01:58:23.670
or removing a dead dying tree.
01:58:23.670 --> 01:58:26.170
So we nip it currently wrapped up
01:58:26.170 --> 01:58:28.360
our vegetation management program,
01:58:28.360 --> 01:58:31.530
and this is really proving
some good results for us.
01:58:31.530 --> 01:58:34.407
Last winter season for the first time
01:58:34.407 --> 01:58:37.450
we saw a significant
decrease in outages,
01:58:37.450 --> 01:58:41.010
which we attribute to our
vegetation management program
01:58:41.010 --> 01:58:42.730
clearing out those dead and dying trees,
01:58:42.730 --> 01:58:45.850
which are being loaded with
snow and falling on our lines.
01:58:45.850 --> 01:58:48.290
And with that Commissioner,
we have a couple other slides,
01:58:48.290 --> 01:58:50.460
but we'd be more than
happy later on to follow up
01:58:50.460 --> 01:58:52.860
with the fifth, the
Commissioners or staff
01:58:52.860 --> 01:58:54.390
for additional questions.
01:58:54.390 --> 01:58:56.673
We appreciate the
opportunity to be here today
01:58:56.673 --> 01:58:59.900
and share with you what
we're doing in Lake Tahoe
01:58:59.900 --> 01:59:01.660
to keep the customer safe
01:59:01.660 --> 01:59:04.850
and try to do our best at
mitigating the wildfire risks
01:59:04.850 --> 01:59:07.984
that poses to our customers.
01:59:07.984 --> 01:59:09.193
Thank you very much.
01:59:31.341 --> 01:59:35.180
President Batjer
might be on mute.
01:59:35.180 --> 01:59:36.556
Oh gosh. I'm so sorry.
01:59:36.556 --> 01:59:38.440
I was on mute.
01:59:38.440 --> 01:59:41.563
Thank you, Chris and
team very, very much.
01:59:42.495 --> 01:59:45.510
The last two slides are
extremely important to us,
01:59:45.510 --> 01:59:49.640
the information as
well as to the public.
01:59:49.640 --> 01:59:52.040
So I'm sorry to truncate this.
01:59:52.040 --> 01:59:54.520
I have already sent a
note to Rachel Peterson,
01:59:54.520 --> 01:59:56.160
our executive director,
01:59:56.160 --> 01:59:57.710
and talking to her about
01:59:57.710 --> 02:00:00.110
how we can do a
follow-up meeting with you
02:00:00.110 --> 02:00:03.530
to make sure that we
complete this presentation
02:00:03.530 --> 02:00:06.560
and that the Commissioners
and the virtual guys
02:00:08.160 --> 02:00:10.663
all get their questions
asked and answered,
02:00:12.356 --> 02:00:13.189
and that we don't, again,
02:00:13.189 --> 02:00:15.947
miss out on any important
information that we need to,
02:00:15.947 --> 02:00:19.240
you need to impart and
we need to hear, so--
02:00:19.240 --> 02:00:20.870
We'll make ourselves available.
02:00:20.870 --> 02:00:22.580
Okay. Thank you so much.
02:00:22.580 --> 02:00:25.310
And I really appreciate
your presentation.
02:00:25.310 --> 02:00:29.500
You've got your hands full
in your territory with wildfires,
02:00:29.500 --> 02:00:34.500
earthquakes and sorry, laptop
is a big snow here.(giggles)
02:00:35.786 --> 02:00:37.840
Thank you everyone.
02:00:37.840 --> 02:00:39.120
All right. Thank you so much.
02:00:39.120 --> 02:00:41.644
Thank you all very
much. Thank you, Liberty.
02:00:41.644 --> 02:00:43.520
Okay.
02:00:43.520 --> 02:00:46.640
We are hopelessly
behind. As I have said,
02:00:46.640 --> 02:00:48.890
I'm going to ask Liberty, excuse me.
02:00:48.890 --> 02:00:53.200
I'm gonna ask Bear Valley
to please come on board.
02:00:53.200 --> 02:00:56.600
I see that you're here
and I'm going to ask again,
02:00:56.600 --> 02:01:00.470
just as I said to Liberty,
we are hopelessly behind
02:01:00.470 --> 02:01:02.430
and I see through your deck
02:01:02.430 --> 02:01:04.630
that you've got quite a few slides.
02:01:04.630 --> 02:01:09.630
If there's any way that you
can somehow summarize,
02:01:10.160 --> 02:01:12.830
some of it would be very, very helpful,
02:01:12.830 --> 02:01:16.700
and it will, it may mean that
we have to do a reschedule,
02:01:16.700 --> 02:01:19.430
so we don't miss anything today.
02:01:19.430 --> 02:01:23.540
But with that, I would
like to have Bear Valley,
02:01:23.540 --> 02:01:25.680
go ahead and begin the presentation
02:01:25.680 --> 02:01:28.953
by introducing yourself and the team.
02:01:29.974 --> 02:01:32.001
President Batjer,
Commissioners,
02:01:32.001 --> 02:01:34.340
and other agency officials.
02:01:34.340 --> 02:01:37.530
I'm Paul Marconi
president of Bear Valley.
02:01:37.530 --> 02:01:39.610
I'll be giving this presentation solo,
02:01:39.610 --> 02:01:42.283
but there is quite a
team effort behind this.
02:01:43.410 --> 02:01:45.193
If we could go to the next slide.
02:01:47.760 --> 02:01:51.380
Basically, you're gonna follow
the agenda that was provided.
02:01:51.380 --> 02:01:53.103
Let me go to the next slide.
02:01:56.250 --> 02:01:58.230
We're located in San
Bernardino mountains.
02:01:58.230 --> 02:02:01.113
We're a small service
area, 32 square miles.
02:02:02.078 --> 02:02:06.114
We're mostly at or above 7,000 feet.
02:02:06.114 --> 02:02:08.370
We're in a dry environment.
02:02:08.370 --> 02:02:11.740
We're in the high fire
threat district entirely
02:02:11.740 --> 02:02:15.833
90% is tier two, 10% is tier one.
02:02:17.500 --> 02:02:22.500
As of today, we're actually
805 days accident free.
02:02:24.350 --> 02:02:26.323
And we're very proud of that.
02:02:27.378 --> 02:02:30.450
And safety is obviously
our number one priority.
02:02:30.450 --> 02:02:31.773
Go to the next slide.
02:02:35.260 --> 02:02:38.330
One of the things that
president touched upon this,
02:02:38.330 --> 02:02:41.423
we are definitely very much
impacted by Southern California
02:02:41.423 --> 02:02:44.890
and so the most important
takeaway from this slide
02:02:44.890 --> 02:02:48.360
is actually the graphic, the
red lines show Edison's lines
02:02:48.360 --> 02:02:50.410
that come into Bear Valley.
02:02:50.410 --> 02:02:54.670
There's two from the north,
which is our main supply lines
02:02:54.670 --> 02:02:56.483
and the small line from the south,
02:02:59.112 --> 02:03:02.175
which that line mates
up with one of our lines,
02:03:02.175 --> 02:03:05.310
the Radford that's
all in tier three area.
02:03:05.310 --> 02:03:07.110
Generally we can de-energized
02:03:07.110 --> 02:03:10.343
during the high fire threat periods.
02:03:13.300 --> 02:03:14.903
Go to the next slide.
02:03:17.940 --> 02:03:22.940
This is the third season
we've been preparing for PSPS.
02:03:24.920 --> 02:03:29.300
We've never involved one, but
we've been very much out there
02:03:29.300 --> 02:03:34.300
following what everybody
else is doing and trying to learn.
02:03:34.490 --> 02:03:39.000
And outreach has been
probably the most important thing,
02:03:39.000 --> 02:03:42.283
trying to prepare our
community without scaring them.
02:03:44.050 --> 02:03:47.170
And I think we have a
very supportive community.
02:03:47.170 --> 02:03:49.940
We've worked on the language piece
02:03:49.940 --> 02:03:53.740
right now we can do real
time in English and Spanish.
02:03:53.740 --> 02:03:57.110
We do have co-care
materials in all the languages
02:03:57.110 --> 02:04:01.320
that Commissioner guidelines require,
02:04:01.320 --> 02:04:04.690
but we would like to get
to real time in those as well.
02:04:04.690 --> 02:04:07.830
We've implemented two way
emergency text communications
02:04:07.830 --> 02:04:09.093
and our IVR,
02:04:10.537 --> 02:04:14.180
and we continue to further
improve our communications
02:04:14.180 --> 02:04:15.080
and outreach
02:04:16.200 --> 02:04:21.025
and we'll get to access and
functional needs customers.
02:04:21.025 --> 02:04:22.860
We've been working
with the county and city.
02:04:22.860 --> 02:04:25.980
In fact, yesterday I reached
agreement with the city manager
02:04:25.980 --> 02:04:27.500
on a confidentiality agreement
02:04:27.500 --> 02:04:31.093
so that we can share some
of our customer information.
02:04:32.690 --> 02:04:36.810
And not just for PSPS, but
for emergencies and disasters.
02:04:36.810 --> 02:04:37.853
It makes sense.
02:04:39.170 --> 02:04:42.800
We are constantly updating
critical customer lists
02:04:44.020 --> 02:04:46.163
and provide that to
our field operations.
02:04:48.010 --> 02:04:50.358
There are no questions
on this particular slide.
02:04:50.358 --> 02:04:53.108
I'd like to go to the next
one in the interest of time.
02:04:56.766 --> 02:04:59.360
So we have not that's to the PSPS,
02:04:59.360 --> 02:05:01.970
so we don't have any direct experience.
02:05:01.970 --> 02:05:06.103
So our lessons learned are
derived from two PSPS drills.
02:05:07.400 --> 02:05:10.613
Now, while the last one was a tabletop,
02:05:11.480 --> 02:05:16.480
we did send people out to
the field to do inspections.
02:05:16.620 --> 02:05:18.100
We did exercise that component.
02:05:18.100 --> 02:05:21.660
We did exercise our
CRC and actually set it up
02:05:21.660 --> 02:05:23.860
and verify it with function.
02:05:23.860 --> 02:05:26.480
We did actually deploy
people with batteries
02:05:27.622 --> 02:05:29.893
to addresses, to simulate.
02:05:29.893 --> 02:05:30.980
We were delivering batteries.
02:05:30.980 --> 02:05:33.440
So we did try to do as much as we could
02:05:34.610 --> 02:05:35.920
because you really never know
02:05:35.920 --> 02:05:39.333
until you actually do something,
how it's actually gonna go.
02:05:41.760 --> 02:05:46.760
We have a PSPS manual
that we've updated now once.
02:05:46.890 --> 02:05:48.663
And we did go through that and make sure
02:05:48.663 --> 02:05:51.033
that we followed
everything in our manual.
02:05:52.380 --> 02:05:54.960
We have learned a lot
from these workshops
02:05:54.960 --> 02:05:56.680
prior to this workshop,
02:05:56.680 --> 02:05:59.600
this year alone, we're
two other workshops.
02:05:59.600 --> 02:06:02.420
We've looked at the public surveys
02:06:02.420 --> 02:06:04.140
and we've got the feedback
02:06:05.140 --> 02:06:08.573
from our community
and stakeholder meetings.
02:06:11.060 --> 02:06:12.770
And we incorporate our lessons learned
02:06:12.770 --> 02:06:14.950
in our manual updates.
02:06:14.950 --> 02:06:16.333
We'd go to the next slide.
02:06:22.805 --> 02:06:24.910
So we did, these are the,
02:06:24.910 --> 02:06:27.270
we have four
telecommunications providers
02:06:27.270 --> 02:06:28.360
in our service area.
02:06:28.360 --> 02:06:32.623
We establish points of contact,
primary, secondary tertiary.
02:06:34.828 --> 02:06:37.930
We've listed all of their facilities
02:06:37.930 --> 02:06:40.770
and we're in the process of validating,
02:06:40.770 --> 02:06:43.323
which ones have backup
power, which ones don't.
02:06:44.280 --> 02:06:47.180
And we do have a schedule brief
02:06:47.180 --> 02:06:51.140
at the end of August, early September.
02:06:51.140 --> 02:06:52.810
We're scheduling a brief for them,
02:06:52.810 --> 02:06:55.350
just specifically to the
telecommunications.
02:06:55.350 --> 02:06:59.340
They've been invited
to all of our partner briefs
02:06:59.340 --> 02:07:01.180
and community briefs,
02:07:01.180 --> 02:07:04.726
but this time I think we're
getting a much better response
02:07:04.726 --> 02:07:07.897
from them to make sure they're included
02:07:07.897 --> 02:07:09.853
and we can talk to them directly.
02:07:12.920 --> 02:07:14.190
Go to the next slide,
02:07:14.190 --> 02:07:16.340
unless there are any
questions on this one.
02:07:18.670 --> 02:07:23.140
Two, we don't have any
tribal areas, but we do our,
02:07:23.140 --> 02:07:28.140
our main jurisdictions are
the county of San Bernardino
02:07:28.850 --> 02:07:30.200
and the City of Big Bear Lake.
02:07:30.200 --> 02:07:32.343
And then we have the US Forest Service.
02:07:34.688 --> 02:07:37.850
We in fact, I briefed the city council
02:07:37.850 --> 02:07:41.793
and talked to our district supervisor.
02:07:43.560 --> 02:07:47.540
We did do annual PSPS
meetings for our stakeholders
02:07:47.540 --> 02:07:49.502
and communities.
02:07:49.502 --> 02:07:51.640
I personally give those meetings
02:07:53.128 --> 02:07:55.005
and we're gonna do another round.
02:07:55.005 --> 02:07:57.510
We did them in June and
we're gonna do another round
02:07:57.510 --> 02:08:01.263
of them in early September as well.
02:08:04.280 --> 02:08:07.643
We update our notification channels,
02:08:09.040 --> 02:08:12.337
points of contact and so forth.
02:08:12.337 --> 02:08:14.087
And we test that out.
02:08:15.456 --> 02:08:16.790
One of the challenges,
02:08:16.790 --> 02:08:19.700
even if we're not gonna invoke a PSPS,
02:08:19.700 --> 02:08:23.993
because we're in the Los
Angeles media market,
02:08:25.680 --> 02:08:28.917
our customers hear about
the Southern California Edison
02:08:28.917 --> 02:08:32.620
and PSPS warnings,
and often get confused.
02:08:32.620 --> 02:08:37.620
And so we do have to
do a lot manage that news,
02:08:39.350 --> 02:08:42.937
especially with our local
government partners
02:08:42.937 --> 02:08:46.230
and first responders to
make sure they understand
02:08:46.230 --> 02:08:49.010
whether or not we're
going to be impacted
02:08:49.010 --> 02:08:51.670
and how they might be impacted.
02:08:51.670 --> 02:08:54.160
So we do quite a bit of that outreach
02:08:54.160 --> 02:08:55.920
and that tests the very same channels
02:08:55.920 --> 02:08:58.693
that we would use if we
were invoking a PSPS.
02:09:00.700 --> 02:09:05.090
We closely work with the
mountain mutual aid association,
02:09:05.090 --> 02:09:10.090
which is a group of utilities,
government agencies.
02:09:10.620 --> 02:09:15.620
I'm actually the president
and a lot of NGOs.
02:09:15.820 --> 02:09:19.810
And it's our way that we
would respond to any disaster
02:09:19.810 --> 02:09:21.490
or emergency in the Valley.
02:09:21.490 --> 02:09:25.430
But I also take that opportunity
to keep them informed
02:09:25.430 --> 02:09:30.190
on how PSPS would work
and how that would impact
02:09:31.400 --> 02:09:36.400
and how we can work
together to mitigate the impact.
02:09:38.078 --> 02:09:41.060
One thing I took on this year
02:09:41.060 --> 02:09:46.060
is to establish Fire
Safe Big Bear Council.
02:09:46.260 --> 02:09:51.260
It's a community group that
takes up education of wildfire,
02:09:54.980 --> 02:09:58.200
works with Cal Fire
and the fire departments
02:09:58.200 --> 02:10:02.150
and helps the community
be involved in fire prevention
02:10:02.150 --> 02:10:06.010
or fire wildfire readiness,
both of those things.
02:10:06.010 --> 02:10:09.070
And so it's a very good nonprofit group.
02:10:09.070 --> 02:10:12.333
It's a great way for us to
get our message out, I feel.
02:10:13.480 --> 02:10:16.920
And so it's something I put suit.
02:10:16.920 --> 02:10:18.663
If we could go to the next slide.
02:10:23.008 --> 02:10:25.130
So as I said, we're entirely
02:10:25.130 --> 02:10:27.410
within the high fire threat district.
02:10:27.410 --> 02:10:30.003
It's a reality of our lives here.
02:10:31.260 --> 02:10:36.260
By the way, my entire staff
has to live in the service area.
02:10:38.130 --> 02:10:40.030
It's a requirement.
02:10:40.030 --> 02:10:42.003
So we're very much invested in this.
02:10:43.310 --> 02:10:46.208
And those shaded areas
02:10:46.208 --> 02:10:49.750
are areas that we
consider higher risk areas.
02:10:49.750 --> 02:10:51.560
And we think they're more likely
02:10:51.560 --> 02:10:53.723
if we were to invoke a PSPS.
02:10:54.880 --> 02:10:58.930
And so we did early on
(indistinct) those areas
02:10:58.930 --> 02:11:01.630
have the ability to isolate them
02:11:01.630 --> 02:11:03.840
without impacting other customers.
02:11:03.840 --> 02:11:06.500
And then we actually have the impact
02:11:06.500 --> 02:11:10.060
on how many customers
would be impacted by those.
02:11:10.060 --> 02:11:14.380
We also have the ability
to contact those customers
02:11:14.380 --> 02:11:16.630
if we actuate those particular switches
02:11:18.420 --> 02:11:22.033
and we would use IVR
messaging, text messaging as well.
02:11:24.700 --> 02:11:27.550
Is there any questions
on that one now go to next.
02:11:32.623 --> 02:11:34.230
I don't wanna,
02:11:34.230 --> 02:11:37.170
we're doing a lot of the
same grid hardening projects
02:11:37.170 --> 02:11:38.690
that the other utilities are doing.
02:11:38.690 --> 02:11:41.790
So I won't go into
detail explaining them,
02:11:41.790 --> 02:11:43.810
but I will say that we completed
02:11:43.810 --> 02:11:45.540
our weather station installation
02:11:45.540 --> 02:11:48.030
we've got 20 weather stations.
02:11:48.030 --> 02:11:51.300
That's about 0.6 weather
stations per square mile.
02:11:51.300 --> 02:11:52.540
Okay.
02:11:52.540 --> 02:11:54.810
So we are really learned a lot too
02:11:54.810 --> 02:11:58.220
about how we have micro climates up here
02:11:58.220 --> 02:12:02.090
and it can have Highlands
on one end of the,
02:12:02.090 --> 02:12:06.520
of our 10 mile wide area and
low winds on the other end.
02:12:06.520 --> 02:12:10.480
So it's kind of interesting,
but we've done that.
02:12:10.480 --> 02:12:15.480
We worked very closely
with Dr. Driscoll over it.
02:12:15.540 --> 02:12:19.610
You would see installing alert wildfire.
02:12:19.610 --> 02:12:22.200
High definition cameras.
02:12:22.200 --> 02:12:24.550
We have one more to install.
02:12:24.550 --> 02:12:26.860
It's a fun, a local radio station.
02:12:26.860 --> 02:12:29.270
And we've got agreement
from the radio station owner
02:12:29.270 --> 02:12:30.103
to do that.
02:12:31.130 --> 02:12:33.490
So really we're just playing coordinator
02:12:33.490 --> 02:12:36.710
between UCSD and the radio station.
02:12:36.710 --> 02:12:40.533
And then we provide some
labor to make that happen.
02:12:41.890 --> 02:12:45.690
We, in early when we
completed the removal
02:12:45.690 --> 02:12:48.740
of all expulsion fuses
conventional pieces
02:12:48.740 --> 02:12:51.213
from our system over 3000.
02:12:52.300 --> 02:12:54.173
So I'm pretty happy about that.
02:12:55.510 --> 02:12:57.960
We also implemented enhance this patient
02:12:59.767 --> 02:13:04.590
and that has been in place
now since March of 2018.
02:13:06.180 --> 02:13:08.390
And we've gone through
our entire service area
02:13:08.390 --> 02:13:10.430
to implement these specs.
02:13:10.430 --> 02:13:12.840
We do go above the
minimum specifications.
02:13:12.840 --> 02:13:16.130
And I think later I have a
graphic on best vegetation.
02:13:16.130 --> 02:13:19.173
I'll show you the, how, what
a positive impact that has had.
02:13:20.010 --> 02:13:24.380
We are using technology like
LiDAR to survey our system,
02:13:24.380 --> 02:13:25.853
and it's extremely useful.
02:13:26.890 --> 02:13:29.470
We also hire a third party.
02:13:29.470 --> 02:13:34.190
Although we do patrols, we
also have hired a third party.
02:13:34.190 --> 02:13:36.063
Who's not involved in any other work,
02:13:37.417 --> 02:13:41.090
then inspection for us to
do a second ground patrol
02:13:41.090 --> 02:13:44.870
of our systems so that
we get an unbiased view
02:13:44.870 --> 02:13:46.213
of how we're doing.
02:13:47.965 --> 02:13:49.923
We can go to the next slide.
02:13:53.140 --> 02:13:55.340
These are things that
are ongoing or in progress
02:13:55.340 --> 02:14:00.340
covered wire, replacing
bare wire with covered wire.
02:14:00.761 --> 02:14:05.761
It's probably the most
impactful thing that we can do.
02:14:07.140 --> 02:14:10.640
We've last year we got
about seven circuit miles.
02:14:10.640 --> 02:14:14.650
And so far this year
we're over six circuit miles.
02:14:14.650 --> 02:14:19.650
We're on track to get 12.9
circuit miles done this year.
02:14:21.840 --> 02:14:26.750
And I know there was a question
about how would that impact
02:14:28.003 --> 02:14:30.814
your TSPs decision making.
02:14:30.814 --> 02:14:32.764
And when I get to that, I will explain,
02:14:33.708 --> 02:14:36.600
but I think personally
it would be unlikely
02:14:36.600 --> 02:14:38.450
that we would invoke a PSPS
02:14:38.450 --> 02:14:40.978
once we have covered wire in place.
02:14:40.978 --> 02:14:43.374
And I'll explain the
reasons when I get there.
02:14:43.374 --> 02:14:45.410
The Radford line project,
02:14:45.410 --> 02:14:49.713
this project is in the
permitting process.
02:14:51.010 --> 02:14:52.510
It's a line that goes through,
02:14:54.890 --> 02:14:56.813
it's a 34,000 volt line that
goes through the tier three.
02:14:59.698 --> 02:15:00.893
We're working with the
fire, the US Forest Service.
02:15:02.107 --> 02:15:03.870
It's been a challenge
to get it permitted,
02:15:03.870 --> 02:15:06.240
but right now we
have mitigation in place
02:15:06.240 --> 02:15:09.070
that we generally keep it the energize
02:15:09.070 --> 02:15:11.744
on high fire threat periods.
02:15:11.744 --> 02:15:13.950
We don't really need it
02:15:13.950 --> 02:15:17.163
except for during the
snow making period,
02:15:18.627 --> 02:15:20.380
which for the resorts
02:15:20.380 --> 02:15:23.530
and because those are
interruptable customers.
02:15:23.530 --> 02:15:26.000
And generally we're not, we don't,
02:15:26.000 --> 02:15:28.860
I don't think I've ever
seen high fire threat day
02:15:28.860 --> 02:15:33.383
when we're making snow
(laughs) it's it doesn't impact us.
02:15:34.960 --> 02:15:38.120
We do have three attachments
we've removed about,
02:15:38.120 --> 02:15:40.415
I would say almost 50% of them
02:15:40.415 --> 02:15:42.310
and we were making good progress.
02:15:42.310 --> 02:15:45.080
We have no high
voltage tree attachments.
02:15:45.080 --> 02:15:46.530
Just be clear on that.
02:15:46.530 --> 02:15:51.530
It's service wire, generally
service wires down 120 volts.
02:15:51.865 --> 02:15:53.315
(coughs) So it's low voltage.
02:15:55.280 --> 02:16:00.280
We have other projects that
install the high-speed switches,
02:16:01.000 --> 02:16:03.470
fall protection equipment, so forth.
02:16:03.470 --> 02:16:08.470
We are using this year
UADs to inspect our system.
02:16:10.320 --> 02:16:13.890
And we are monitoring
projects such as solar generation
02:16:13.890 --> 02:16:16.883
and batteries to work
projects either in planning.
02:16:18.360 --> 02:16:19.770
We could go to the next slide,
02:16:19.770 --> 02:16:22.670
unless there are any questions
on specific grid hardening.
02:16:27.490 --> 02:16:29.010
Okay.
02:16:29.010 --> 02:16:34.010
This is scenario where we
are trying to really improve.
02:16:35.530 --> 02:16:37.800
We have medical baseline customers,
02:16:37.800 --> 02:16:42.800
but we also have ASN
customers in out of 24,600 meters.
02:16:44.430 --> 02:16:48.443
If think we'd have more
than 14 AFN customers.
02:16:49.410 --> 02:16:51.990
So we're pushing that.
02:16:51.990 --> 02:16:54.680
I am requiring my customer service now,
02:16:54.680 --> 02:16:57.920
anytime someone calls to hire about AFN,
02:16:57.920 --> 02:17:01.470
to explain to them about
what the program is,
02:17:01.470 --> 02:17:03.330
who qualifies as an AFN.
02:17:03.330 --> 02:17:05.990
I think even though
we've done this via mail,
02:17:05.990 --> 02:17:08.430
our website or social media,
02:17:08.430 --> 02:17:12.864
I think we just need to be
out front and just go after it.
02:17:12.864 --> 02:17:17.864
So when you call our
customer service now they,
02:17:18.860 --> 02:17:21.170
that our customer service are instructed
02:17:22.173 --> 02:17:27.010
to make sure we have our
folks are understanding of that,
02:17:27.010 --> 02:17:29.573
especially also with
new applicants obviously.
02:17:32.162 --> 02:17:35.630
We are coordinating
with CBOs in our area
02:17:35.630 --> 02:17:39.960
to identify and educate people on AFN
02:17:41.210 --> 02:17:43.103
and self-identification,
02:17:44.350 --> 02:17:48.083
and we're working with the
City of Big Bear Lake as well.
02:17:50.410 --> 02:17:55.410
And as we are looking at
the phase three decision
02:17:56.830 --> 02:18:00.640
and starting to put together
our annual ASN plan
02:18:00.640 --> 02:18:03.157
in accordance with safe
screening requirements.
02:18:07.737 --> 02:18:09.900
Is there any specific questions on that,
02:18:09.900 --> 02:18:11.803
like to go to the next slide?
02:18:13.780 --> 02:18:16.300
Well, Paul, I would
agree that that seems
02:18:16.300 --> 02:18:19.366
like a very low number
given your service territory.
02:18:19.366 --> 02:18:21.610
And I do hope you are,
02:18:21.610 --> 02:18:26.050
you can do as much
as you possibly can do
02:18:26.050 --> 02:18:30.010
to really outreach to the community.
02:18:30.010 --> 02:18:34.334
And logic would tell
you that that is that,
02:18:34.334 --> 02:18:37.640
that there must be more people in need
02:18:37.640 --> 02:18:41.203
than have an identified to date.
02:18:41.203 --> 02:18:45.280
So I would encourage you
to continue doing all things,
02:18:45.280 --> 02:18:48.960
including what you're
doing, plus. (laughs)
02:18:48.960 --> 02:18:49.793
Yes.
02:18:51.536 --> 02:18:54.037
And that'd be support
vulnerable customers.
02:18:54.037 --> 02:18:58.410
You know, we are, we have a lot,
02:18:58.410 --> 02:18:59.557
a fair amount of snow every year.
02:18:59.557 --> 02:19:03.000
And so snore snow is
more, it's our challenge.
02:19:03.000 --> 02:19:07.928
And we've had, since
I've been here since 2014,
02:19:07.928 --> 02:19:10.353
some major snow storms,
02:19:11.450 --> 02:19:13.820
and we've worked very closely
02:19:13.820 --> 02:19:16.170
with the city county this year.
02:19:16.170 --> 02:19:19.240
So the fire department
responding to these outages
02:19:19.240 --> 02:19:21.940
and we've always been able to get,
02:19:21.940 --> 02:19:24.580
do door to door service
for our medical baseline
02:19:24.580 --> 02:19:26.740
in those situations.
02:19:26.740 --> 02:19:30.123
So I see why I can't do
that in the PSPS event.
02:19:31.640 --> 02:19:36.640
We use everything. We is
phone, IVR, the texting website,
02:19:38.800 --> 02:19:40.520
local radio station.
02:19:40.520 --> 02:19:43.720
We also go knock on doors, okay?
02:19:43.720 --> 02:19:47.780
We're that small that
we can knock on doors.
02:19:47.780 --> 02:19:50.680
And we have other
groups in the community
02:19:50.680 --> 02:19:53.913
that were willing to help us
knock on doors when we have to.
02:19:55.533 --> 02:19:59.967
One of the things that
always troubles me on PSPS,
02:19:59.967 --> 02:20:01.579
and maybe we can talk about this.
02:20:01.579 --> 02:20:04.600
And their decision making is,
well, we haven't Santana winds
02:20:04.600 --> 02:20:08.240
at 7,000 feet and it's nighttime.
02:20:08.240 --> 02:20:12.063
It's about 18 degrees in a Big Bear.
02:20:13.120 --> 02:20:17.165
And so that to me is also a
safety issue for my customers.
02:20:17.165 --> 02:20:20.022
So it's something that I factor in
02:20:20.022 --> 02:20:22.860
and we have to have the ability to reach
02:20:22.860 --> 02:20:25.350
and go out to our
customers if we have to,
02:20:25.350 --> 02:20:29.290
if we did invoke the PSPS to get them
02:20:29.290 --> 02:20:31.482
the assistance they need,
02:20:31.482 --> 02:20:35.300
or get them to a place
where they can be warm.
02:20:35.300 --> 02:20:37.413
So it's very important that we do that.
02:20:39.490 --> 02:20:41.260
We do have a community resource center
02:20:41.260 --> 02:20:43.113
that we set up at our main office.
02:20:44.080 --> 02:20:48.800
We are, and I'll talk more
about those on a slide.
02:20:48.800 --> 02:20:50.890
And then once again, horrible batteries,
02:20:50.890 --> 02:20:53.933
we do need to learn more
about how to deploy these.
02:20:54.980 --> 02:20:56.850
We did size the ones we bought
02:20:56.850 --> 02:21:00.690
so that you can charge a
standard oxygen machine
02:21:01.537 --> 02:21:05.510
so that someone who's on
oxygen can use that battery
02:21:05.510 --> 02:21:08.898
to get their oxygen recharged.
02:21:08.898 --> 02:21:11.660
And, and so we wanted to
make sure that we didn't bias
02:21:13.398 --> 02:21:14.231
'cause there's a lot
of batteries out there
02:21:16.165 --> 02:21:17.000
that can provide power,
02:21:17.000 --> 02:21:18.928
but they provide power the long-term,
02:21:18.928 --> 02:21:21.270
but they don't provide
that surgeon power
02:21:21.270 --> 02:21:23.953
that's needed to actually
charge an oxygen machine.
02:21:25.490 --> 02:21:27.350
And so we wanted to take a look--
02:21:27.350 --> 02:21:28.300
Sorry to interrupt.
02:21:28.300 --> 02:21:33.210
But as Commissioner,
Rick Shaw has said earlier,
02:21:33.210 --> 02:21:35.850
I think I'm not sure
whether you were able
02:21:35.850 --> 02:21:40.327
to listen in on the other
presentations by the large IOUs
02:21:40.327 --> 02:21:42.117
in the last couple of days,
02:21:42.117 --> 02:21:45.340
but I am sure that if you
reached out to either San Diego,
02:21:45.340 --> 02:21:47.300
Gas&Electric or Edison,
02:21:47.300 --> 02:21:50.010
they have quite a bit of experience
02:21:50.010 --> 02:21:54.220
with purchasing batteries
of all sizes and types,
02:21:54.220 --> 02:21:59.220
as well as educating their
customers as to how to use them.
02:22:00.630 --> 02:22:05.630
So, and we are going to
need to wrap up at 11:45,
02:22:05.690 --> 02:22:07.857
so about 15 minutes, okay?
02:22:07.857 --> 02:22:09.947
Okay. Thank you.
02:22:09.947 --> 02:22:12.913
And we will reach out, if
we could go to the next slide.
02:22:15.500 --> 02:22:19.620
So decision-making criteria modeling.
02:22:19.620 --> 02:22:22.333
You know, we have many factors,
02:22:25.489 --> 02:22:28.740
I'm just a simple
minded nuclear engineer.
02:22:28.740 --> 02:22:31.070
So I like to keep it simple.
02:22:31.070 --> 02:22:33.950
And we looked at the
most limiting structures
02:22:33.950 --> 02:22:37.350
and then we took the design
margin down to zero and said,
02:22:37.350 --> 02:22:39.240
found out that the wind
02:22:39.240 --> 02:22:44.240
at about 80 miles per hour was limiting.
02:22:44.400 --> 02:22:48.100
And then we have a little
bit of a cushion in there.
02:22:48.100 --> 02:22:51.440
So at 55 miles, it's the speed limit
02:22:51.440 --> 02:22:55.580
is when we would probably invoke a PSPS
02:22:55.580 --> 02:23:00.470
if we have dry high fire
threat conditions, obviously.
02:23:01.984 --> 02:23:05.040
And so, and that's for bare wire.
02:23:05.040 --> 02:23:08.890
If I had covered wire, when
we installed covered wire,
02:23:08.890 --> 02:23:13.280
recognize that we go through
and also do pole loading.
02:23:13.280 --> 02:23:17.330
And so instead of taking my
design margin down to zero,
02:23:17.330 --> 02:23:20.410
I'm gonna take it down and say 2.67,
02:23:20.410 --> 02:23:23.343
that has meaning to
those who follow geo 95.
02:23:24.310 --> 02:23:27.625
And if we can withstand
a hell of a lot more wind.
02:23:27.625 --> 02:23:32.555
So I would say, we would evaluate a PSPS
02:23:32.555 --> 02:23:35.630
and the 90 to 100 mile per hour winds,
02:23:35.630 --> 02:23:39.805
not likely ever going to happen, okay?
02:23:39.805 --> 02:23:44.805
Can I say it will never happen?
No, (laughs) but not likely.
02:23:45.070 --> 02:23:47.560
And if you look at the
history of our winds,
02:23:47.560 --> 02:23:52.560
the tables below, we just,
how in the last six years
02:23:53.240 --> 02:23:56.020
just don't experience this high winds.
02:23:56.020 --> 02:23:59.150
When we have high risk days.
02:23:59.150 --> 02:23:59.983
For some reason,
02:23:59.983 --> 02:24:03.610
the way the topography of
our mountains are set up,
02:24:03.610 --> 02:24:06.120
we're somewhat shielded
from the Santana winds
02:24:06.120 --> 02:24:11.120
as far as the actual speed
of the wind, but we're ready.
02:24:13.300 --> 02:24:18.300
We do during the winter
do experience winds
02:24:18.840 --> 02:24:21.840
over 70 miles per hour, but generally,
02:24:21.840 --> 02:24:25.270
you know, we're getting, you know,
02:24:25.270 --> 02:24:28.683
tend to inches to 24 inches of snow,
02:24:30.168 --> 02:24:32.940
or back on through the fortunes of 2019,
02:24:32.940 --> 02:24:34.450
we had over 10 inches of rain.
02:24:34.450 --> 02:24:36.913
We just aren't having
a wildfire that day.
02:24:38.430 --> 02:24:42.260
And so while we are very versed in it
02:24:42.260 --> 02:24:43.440
and we do keep this up,
02:24:43.440 --> 02:24:47.430
we do believe that we can
get our system hardened
02:24:47.430 --> 02:24:52.430
where PSPS is really not a
likely event in Bear Valley.
02:24:53.260 --> 02:24:56.003
More likely that
Southern California Edison
02:24:56.003 --> 02:24:59.320
will take our power away.
02:24:59.320 --> 02:25:02.840
And I didn't put a
slide addressing that,
02:25:02.840 --> 02:25:03.740
but I can tell you
02:25:04.792 --> 02:25:08.701
that we talked to
Southern California Edison
02:25:08.701 --> 02:25:10.680
at the executive level,
02:25:10.680 --> 02:25:13.660
the manager level,
and the working level.
02:25:13.660 --> 02:25:17.623
And we have a very good and
close coordination with them.
02:25:19.135 --> 02:25:19.970
We have access to their portal.
02:25:19.970 --> 02:25:23.170
We have direct phone
lines to their control centers.
02:25:23.170 --> 02:25:27.693
I have direct communications
with their account manager.
02:25:28.670 --> 02:25:31.970
And last year during
the potential events,
02:25:31.970 --> 02:25:34.470
we were talking just
about every four hours
02:25:35.800 --> 02:25:38.910
and making sure that we
were all on the same page.
02:25:38.910 --> 02:25:43.400
And I think each year I see
that coordination improving.
02:25:43.400 --> 02:25:45.720
I was actually pretty happy
02:25:46.756 --> 02:25:49.917
with the way they responded to us.
02:25:49.917 --> 02:25:53.240
And I think we worked well together.
02:25:53.240 --> 02:25:58.240
That is my top concern
as far as the PSPS goes.
02:26:01.448 --> 02:26:02.613
Could go to the next.
02:26:03.910 --> 02:26:08.380
Paul, have you in your close
communications with Edison,
02:26:08.380 --> 02:26:11.850
have you all ever done any part of
02:26:11.850 --> 02:26:14.343
or participated in their exercises?
02:26:15.970 --> 02:26:18.923
No, but that's a
great thing to do.
02:26:19.943 --> 02:26:24.943
And we have not, we have
to relate here within our staff.
02:26:25.560 --> 02:26:27.993
The Edison gives us a call and says, we,
02:26:30.052 --> 02:26:33.260
the following line is
under consideration
02:26:33.260 --> 02:26:35.670
and here's the period of concern
02:26:35.670 --> 02:26:38.780
so that we all know their terminology.
02:26:38.780 --> 02:26:40.030
And then what we would do,
02:26:40.030 --> 02:26:43.460
we have actual switching
procedures and so forth
02:26:43.460 --> 02:26:47.170
so that when we get these warnings,
02:26:47.170 --> 02:26:48.410
the challenge for us
02:26:48.410 --> 02:26:51.210
is to get the power
plant up and running.
02:26:51.210 --> 02:26:53.583
In Bear Valley we have
a small pecker.xx plant,
02:26:54.824 --> 02:26:55.657
8.4 megawatts,
02:26:55.657 --> 02:27:00.657
get that up and running before
Edison were drops power to us
02:27:00.960 --> 02:27:04.770
because then we would
be in a black start scenario.
02:27:04.770 --> 02:27:09.560
And if you ever in any
utility, that's always a,
02:27:09.560 --> 02:27:12.020
it's a huge challenge
to start up a power plant
02:27:12.020 --> 02:27:13.633
under black star conditions.
02:27:16.010 --> 02:27:17.840
I do think it would
be good to inquire
02:27:17.840 --> 02:27:22.623
if you could please be
included in their next exercise.
02:27:29.250 --> 02:27:30.720
On the vegetation.
02:27:30.720 --> 02:27:35.720
I mentioned that we
back in March of 2018,
02:27:36.220 --> 02:27:37.850
following the permissions issue
02:27:37.850 --> 02:27:41.030
of a decision on increasing
02:27:41.030 --> 02:27:44.710
some of the fire prevention
measures in geo 95,
02:27:44.710 --> 02:27:49.710
we implemented a new
standards and we actually,
02:27:52.280 --> 02:27:56.270
we trim out to 12 feet as
is done at the time of trim.
02:27:56.270 --> 02:28:01.113
But our decision to trimming
now is at 72 inches, not 48.
02:28:02.205 --> 02:28:04.337
So we go beyond the minimum required
02:28:04.337 --> 02:28:07.633
and we do that because
of our environment.
02:28:08.490 --> 02:28:13.060
And we have seen a notable decrease
02:28:13.060 --> 02:28:15.573
in vegetation contacts in lines.
02:28:16.630 --> 02:28:21.160
It's early you could say law
of small numbers if you want,
02:28:21.160 --> 02:28:25.030
but I can tell you that
when I first came here
02:28:25.030 --> 02:28:26.560
and you hear the wind,
02:28:26.560 --> 02:28:29.430
it, no, there'd be a
little loud at somewhere.
02:28:29.430 --> 02:28:31.470
We don't have that anymore.
02:28:31.470 --> 02:28:35.160
This is really, and we have
a very supportive community.
02:28:35.160 --> 02:28:36.520
I would have thought
02:28:36.520 --> 02:28:38.670
with the amount of
trimming.xx we are doing
02:28:40.333 --> 02:28:41.410
that we would have gotten pushback.
02:28:41.410 --> 02:28:44.320
In fact, we actually get praise
02:28:44.320 --> 02:28:46.340
from at these community meetings,
02:28:46.340 --> 02:28:51.340
from folks that were out there
with keeping the lines clear.
02:28:52.270 --> 02:28:55.833
I think the general folks
are appreciative of that.
02:28:57.181 --> 02:28:59.628
A lot of trees we're
keeping track of them
02:28:59.628 --> 02:29:02.993
and we're putting them in
our GIS over 13,000 trees,
02:29:04.460 --> 02:29:07.260
we keep track of the species
02:29:07.260 --> 02:29:11.680
and we were getting much more surgical
02:29:11.680 --> 02:29:16.680
so that we can really get
our management teams
02:29:16.910 --> 02:29:19.750
on the areas of concern
02:29:19.750 --> 02:29:23.253
before any threat weather approaches.
02:29:27.938 --> 02:29:28.923
Go to the next.
02:29:34.857 --> 02:29:38.253
An area, three resources new for us.
02:29:39.629 --> 02:29:43.060
We do have it located
at the main facility.
02:29:43.060 --> 02:29:47.080
We do have a backup plan as well,
02:29:47.080 --> 02:29:50.610
and I do wanna work on
some other backup plans,
02:29:50.610 --> 02:29:52.050
just so you understand,
02:29:52.050 --> 02:29:55.320
I can drive from one end of
my service area to the other
02:29:56.630 --> 02:30:00.280
in about 20 to 22 minutes
02:30:02.091 --> 02:30:04.663
and without violating any speed limits,
02:30:06.620 --> 02:30:10.260
we are located right in the
center of the service area.
02:30:10.260 --> 02:30:13.740
And so we feel that's a great location,
02:30:13.740 --> 02:30:17.010
but we want the ability
obviously to move it to other areas
02:30:17.010 --> 02:30:17.983
if we did.
02:30:19.680 --> 02:30:23.750
And so that's what we we've
tailored our system to do that,
02:30:23.750 --> 02:30:27.400
or our coordination center.
02:30:27.400 --> 02:30:30.543
We are improving our CRC.
02:30:31.710 --> 02:30:34.080
We have all the standard stuff.
02:30:34.080 --> 02:30:36.610
There was, I, you know,
I read in the phase three
02:30:36.610 --> 02:30:38.600
and it came up in one of the workshops
02:30:39.610 --> 02:30:42.380
doing some indoor filtration for smoke.
02:30:42.380 --> 02:30:44.540
And that does make sense to me.
02:30:44.540 --> 02:30:48.138
And we'll try and get
that in place last year
02:30:48.138 --> 02:30:51.137
during I know it didn't
reach our service area
02:30:51.137 --> 02:30:52.880
we had the Eldorado fire,
02:30:52.880 --> 02:30:57.010
which was impacting the
air quality up in our area.
02:30:57.010 --> 02:31:00.500
And it had the, in both
the PSPS at the same time,
02:31:00.500 --> 02:31:02.680
the Eldorado fire was going on.
02:31:02.680 --> 02:31:06.100
It would've been nice to be
able to offer an environment
02:31:06.100 --> 02:31:07.300
where people can breathe
02:31:09.380 --> 02:31:13.723
without being exposed
to that kind of atmosphere.
02:31:14.909 --> 02:31:17.110
And so we are looking at that
02:31:19.931 --> 02:31:22.340
and we did set it up to verify that
02:31:22.340 --> 02:31:24.787
we could actually set it
up and we had people there
02:31:24.787 --> 02:31:26.573
and people know what to do.
02:31:27.620 --> 02:31:32.390
I personally liked to play a customer
02:31:32.390 --> 02:31:33.750
and go in and test it out
02:31:35.250 --> 02:31:38.690
and sometimes be a difficult customer,
02:31:38.690 --> 02:31:41.621
but it makes our customer service folks
02:31:41.621 --> 02:31:42.973
a lot more responsive.
02:31:45.490 --> 02:31:46.643
Go to the next.
02:31:51.900 --> 02:31:53.440
I think this is the final one.
02:31:53.440 --> 02:31:55.790
We do have a lot of feedback.
02:31:55.790 --> 02:31:58.133
We get feedback from our surveys.
02:31:59.050 --> 02:32:01.890
It's all stuff that makes sense.
02:32:01.890 --> 02:32:06.890
And so we are constantly
looking at those surveys
02:32:07.370 --> 02:32:09.190
and trying to understand
02:32:09.190 --> 02:32:11.503
how we can best serve our communities.
02:32:12.630 --> 02:32:15.900
We have a very, one of the
biggest challenges we have,
02:32:15.900 --> 02:32:19.380
like I said, the door to door
services sometimes needed.
02:32:19.380 --> 02:32:23.440
We have an elderly community
that are not tech savvy.
02:32:23.440 --> 02:32:26.631
And then we have a lot
of tech savvy people on it.
02:32:26.631 --> 02:32:28.123
You know, we have to cater to both.
02:32:29.130 --> 02:32:34.130
And we still have people
with, rely on land (indistinct)
02:32:34.380 --> 02:32:39.380
and then we have others who
don't even know what a mine is.
02:32:40.780 --> 02:32:45.780
And so even in the small
service area, it's challenging,
02:32:46.150 --> 02:32:50.180
but we have to continually improve
02:32:50.180 --> 02:32:54.573
to make sure we can reach
out and talk to all our customers.
02:32:57.900 --> 02:33:01.760
And also, and the other
thing is, as I mentioned earlier,
02:33:01.760 --> 02:33:04.020
we're in this LA media market.
02:33:04.020 --> 02:33:06.740
And so we have to educate
them about Southern California,
02:33:06.740 --> 02:33:11.740
Edison PSPS and their valley
PSPS and the differences
02:33:12.570 --> 02:33:15.160
and whether or not they
wouldn't be impacted.
02:33:15.160 --> 02:33:16.970
And every time Edison,
02:33:16.970 --> 02:33:21.280
they may be calling away
a PSPS in Ventura County.
02:33:21.280 --> 02:33:24.150
Well, it's on the local
news that we're watching
02:33:24.150 --> 02:33:27.970
and I guarantee you, we
get phone calls about that.
02:33:27.970 --> 02:33:31.610
And so we try to take a
leading on those things
02:33:31.610 --> 02:33:35.729
and get out in front and
make sure our customers
02:33:35.729 --> 02:33:40.563
understand what they need
to be ready for and when.
02:33:43.880 --> 02:33:44.810
Go to the next.
02:33:49.570 --> 02:33:50.713
Questions point.
02:33:52.230 --> 02:33:56.940
Thank you, Mr. Marconi for
getting to do your presentation
02:33:56.940 --> 02:34:00.350
and helping us with my poor
management of time this morning.
02:34:00.350 --> 02:34:02.670
So I appreciate that very much.
02:34:02.670 --> 02:34:05.980
I will turn now to the
virtual dais and ask
02:34:05.980 --> 02:34:09.600
if any of my colleagues
have any further questions
02:34:09.600 --> 02:34:11.550
and those that they have already asked.
02:34:13.910 --> 02:34:15.710
I see the chief shaking his head,
02:34:15.710 --> 02:34:17.930
and I do want to
mention Mark Ghilarducci
02:34:17.930 --> 02:34:19.280
did have to depart,
02:34:19.280 --> 02:34:23.870
but there are people from
OES who are listening in.
02:34:23.870 --> 02:34:28.021
So I don't want you
to think that they left
02:34:28.021 --> 02:34:30.113
in the middle of your presentation.
02:34:31.461 --> 02:34:32.770
So any questions?
02:34:32.770 --> 02:34:34.957
Yes. Commissioner Houk.
02:34:34.957 --> 02:34:36.357
I don't have any questions
02:34:36.357 --> 02:34:37.700
but I know we're running on time.
02:34:37.700 --> 02:34:39.810
I just did wanna note that I appreciated
02:34:39.810 --> 02:34:44.260
all of the presentations
and I learned a lot today.
02:34:44.260 --> 02:34:46.333
So thank you to all of the utilities.
02:34:47.960 --> 02:34:48.793
Indeed.
02:34:48.793 --> 02:34:51.013
Any other questions of Bear Valley?
02:34:53.070 --> 02:34:56.570
Okay. Not seeing any or hearing any.
02:34:56.570 --> 02:35:01.400
So with that, Mr. Marconi,
I want to thank you again
02:35:01.400 --> 02:35:03.340
for your presentation.
02:35:03.340 --> 02:35:08.340
And I want to thank the
representatives from Pacific Corp
02:35:08.790 --> 02:35:11.690
for theirs as well as Liberty.
02:35:11.690 --> 02:35:16.420
And I would ask if you
all are still online with us,
02:35:16.420 --> 02:35:18.300
I hope that you are.
02:35:18.300 --> 02:35:22.577
Please stay if you can please
02:35:22.577 --> 02:35:25.810
and listen to the public comment.
02:35:25.810 --> 02:35:27.673
Very important for all of us.
02:35:28.630 --> 02:35:31.490
Okay. With that, we will now turn
02:35:31.490 --> 02:35:34.630
to the public comment
portion of our agenda.
02:35:34.630 --> 02:35:37.880
As a reminder, if you wish
to make a public comment,
02:35:37.880 --> 02:35:42.437
please dial 1-800-857-1917
02:35:44.210 --> 02:35:49.210
and enter a pass pass code
7218384#, press star one.
02:35:54.810 --> 02:35:56.710
You will be placed into a queue
02:35:56.710 --> 02:35:59.780
and the operator will take
your name and organization.
02:35:59.780 --> 02:36:03.220
There may be a delay from
the time you press star one
02:36:03.220 --> 02:36:05.750
to the time the operator
asks for your information.
02:36:05.750 --> 02:36:08.983
So please be patient
and stay on the line.
02:36:10.120 --> 02:36:15.120
We will provide you two
minutes, two minutes to speak.
02:36:16.560 --> 02:36:19.610
You will hear a bell
sound when your time is up.
02:36:19.610 --> 02:36:22.018
So please be mindful of that.
02:36:22.018 --> 02:36:26.403
Operator, please bring
on the first commenter.
02:36:28.320 --> 02:36:29.153
Thank you.
02:36:29.153 --> 02:36:32.020
We have no one in the
public comment telephone line
02:36:32.020 --> 02:36:32.853
at this time.
02:36:32.853 --> 02:36:34.750
But again, if you wish to speak
02:36:34.750 --> 02:36:35.980
during the public comment period,
02:36:35.980 --> 02:36:38.530
please press star one unmute your phone
02:36:38.530 --> 02:36:42.180
and clearly record your name
and organization when prompted.
02:36:42.180 --> 02:36:44.773
Again, there's star one
to make a public comment.
02:36:45.673 --> 02:36:48.980
So we'll wait a few
minutes because we are late
02:36:48.980 --> 02:36:52.200
and I'm sure some
people had to drop off.
02:36:52.200 --> 02:36:54.723
Maybe they'll sign back in.
02:37:10.227 --> 02:37:11.380
And as a reminder,
02:37:11.380 --> 02:37:12.900
if you would like to
make a public comment,
02:37:12.900 --> 02:37:15.260
please press star one unmute your phone
02:37:15.260 --> 02:37:17.793
and record your first and
last name when prompted.
02:37:25.060 --> 02:37:27.988
Okay. Operator
as anybody joined us?
02:37:27.988 --> 02:37:29.640
In President Batjer,
02:37:29.640 --> 02:37:31.320
there are no participants
02:37:31.320 --> 02:37:33.840
on a public comment, telephone line.
02:37:33.840 --> 02:37:35.340
Okay. Thanks (mumbles).
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With no more callers on the
line or no caller on the line.
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The public comment period is now closed.
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I do once again, wanna
thank you for joining us today
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for a really informative
briefing and discussion.
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I'm sorry that we kind
of got lost in our time.
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And there were lots of rich questions
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being asked along the way
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for which I think my
fellow Commissioners
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and my esteemed colleagues
from Cal OES, Cal Fire
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and OES for your
participation, not only today,
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but the last two days.
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And I also want to
thank our wonderful team
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here at the CPEC, Rachel
Peterson, Tony Knowles,
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Drew Dutton, Shelby Chaste,
Cindy Kin, and Briana Mendoza,
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in our safety enforcement
vision for all of their hard work
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in organizing these briefings.
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It isn't easy and it takes a
lot of coordination and effort.
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And I really thank them all.
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I want to also thank my
own advisor, Nora Hopkins,
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for all of her hard work in preparing me
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and the rest of the Batjer
team for these three days.
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So thank you so much.
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And thank you today for
your participation to the public.
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And thank you again to the companies
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for their presentations.
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This meeting is now adjourned.
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Thank you.