WEBVTT 00:00:01.898 --> 00:00:04.570 The feed for this streaming event 00:00:04.570 --> 00:00:08.480 brought to you by admin monitor.com will begin momentarily. 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:09.880 Thank you for your patience. 00:00:15.299 --> 00:00:18.750 To offer standing by today's conference 00:00:18.750 --> 00:00:21.120 all participants are on a listen only mode. 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:24.270 I would now like to turn the call over to President Batjer. 00:00:24.270 --> 00:00:25.924 Thank you, you may begin. 00:00:25.924 --> 00:00:27.724 Thank you very much, (indistinct). 00:00:28.850 --> 00:00:31.110 Appreciate that. And hello and hello everyone. 00:00:31.110 --> 00:00:33.710 Thank you very much for joining us today 00:00:33.710 --> 00:00:36.690 for public briefings from Bare Valley Electric, 00:00:36.690 --> 00:00:39.730 from Liberty Utilities and from Pacific Corp 00:00:39.730 --> 00:00:42.340 on their readiness for public safety power shutoff 00:00:42.340 --> 00:00:44.620 is as this wildfire season. 00:00:44.620 --> 00:00:46.530 Today's briefing from the small 00:00:46.530 --> 00:00:49.000 and multi-jurisdictional utilities 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:52.059 is the last in a series of four public briefings 00:00:52.059 --> 00:00:54.720 we are holding this week, having heard 00:00:54.720 --> 00:00:57.960 from San Diego Gas&Electric Company on Monday 00:00:57.960 --> 00:00:59.740 Southern California Edison Company 00:00:59.740 --> 00:01:03.070 and Pacific Gas&Electric Company yesterday. 00:01:03.070 --> 00:01:05.730 I am honored to have joining me today 00:01:05.730 --> 00:01:07.640 on the virtual dais representatives 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:10.730 from the California Governor's Office of Emergency Services, 00:01:10.730 --> 00:01:13.720 the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection 00:01:13.720 --> 00:01:17.893 and the Office of Energy, Infrastructure, Safe and Safety. 00:01:19.020 --> 00:01:22.140 Director Ghilarducci from OES is here with us. 00:01:22.140 --> 00:01:24.930 Chief for Lance is here from Cal Fire 00:01:24.930 --> 00:01:29.930 and director Caroline Thomas Jacobs is here from OEIS. 00:01:31.130 --> 00:01:35.320 As well as my fellow Commissioners, Commissioner Shaaban 00:01:35.320 --> 00:01:37.700 Commissioner (indistinct) Commissioner Shiroma 00:01:37.700 --> 00:01:40.203 and Commissioner Houck.xx Welcome to all. 00:01:41.650 --> 00:01:44.690 In terms of it, of format for today's briefing 00:01:44.690 --> 00:01:47.170 following opening remarks from the dais. 00:01:47.170 --> 00:01:51.370 We will first hear from Pacific Corp, Allen Berreth, 00:01:51.370 --> 00:01:55.780 vice-president transmission and distribution strategy. 00:01:55.780 --> 00:01:58.230 Followed by Liberty Utilities, California, 00:01:58.230 --> 00:02:00.630 president Chris Alario 00:02:01.660 --> 00:02:05.770 and finally, Bear Valley's Electric president Paul Marconi. 00:02:05.770 --> 00:02:08.030 Each utilities presentation will be followed 00:02:08.030 --> 00:02:10.910 by 15 minutes of questions from the dais. 00:02:10.910 --> 00:02:13.980 I will tell everybody that the last two days 00:02:13.980 --> 00:02:16.520 we have asked questions along the way. 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:20.220 So please don't take that as an intentional interruption, 00:02:20.220 --> 00:02:25.190 but it has been beneficial to ask during your presentation 00:02:25.190 --> 00:02:28.810 questions, as we go through your presentation. 00:02:28.810 --> 00:02:32.840 After the three presentations and three rounds of Q&A, 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:36.260 we will move to the public comment period of our agenda. 00:02:36.260 --> 00:02:39.610 We are scheduled to conclude by 12:00 p.m. 00:02:39.610 --> 00:02:43.440 For the public comment portion, which will begin at 11:25, 00:02:43.440 --> 00:02:45.100 if you wish to make a public comment, 00:02:45.100 --> 00:02:50.020 please dial into 1-800-857-1917, 00:02:51.480 --> 00:02:56.480 enter passcode 7218384# and press star one. 00:02:57.810 --> 00:02:59.290 You will be placed into a queue 00:02:59.290 --> 00:03:02.800 and the operator would take a name and organization. 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:06.140 There may be a delay from the time you press star one 00:03:06.140 --> 00:03:09.780 to the time the operator asks for your information. 00:03:09.780 --> 00:03:12.460 So please be patient and stay on the line. 00:03:12.460 --> 00:03:14.990 You will be called upon to speak when you get, 00:03:14.990 --> 00:03:18.580 when we get to the public comment period in today's agenda, 00:03:18.580 --> 00:03:21.310 and we will provide two minutes, 00:03:21.310 --> 00:03:25.300 we will provide two minutes for each speaker. 00:03:25.300 --> 00:03:28.720 You will, I will keep my opening remarks brief 00:03:28.720 --> 00:03:32.370 so that the majority of our time today can be used to ensure 00:03:32.370 --> 00:03:34.710 the public is able to hear from the utilities 00:03:34.710 --> 00:03:36.700 on their state of preparedness. 00:03:36.700 --> 00:03:39.623 It says, I am sure and number of people listening today 00:03:39.623 --> 00:03:42.886 were not able to join us 00:03:42.886 --> 00:03:45.440 for the earlier briefings I mentioned, 00:03:45.440 --> 00:03:49.470 I hope you will indulge me as I cover a few important topics 00:03:49.470 --> 00:03:52.340 that yes I have covered in the last two days. 00:03:52.340 --> 00:03:55.100 With climate change, drought driven weather events 00:03:55.100 --> 00:03:56.160 and the drought conditions 00:03:56.160 --> 00:03:57.510 we are facing throughout the west. 00:03:57.510 --> 00:04:01.660 Our wildfire seasons are starting earlier and ending later, 00:04:01.660 --> 00:04:04.160 and they are persistently more severe. 00:04:04.160 --> 00:04:07.970 This year there have already been approximately 6,000 fires 00:04:07.970 --> 00:04:11.860 that have burned over half a million acres in California. 00:04:11.860 --> 00:04:15.490 And it's only the beginning of August. 00:04:15.490 --> 00:04:18.030 We are already in what will likely be a long 00:04:18.030 --> 00:04:20.910 and very difficult wildfire season. 00:04:20.910 --> 00:04:25.100 Oh, we are driving the utilities to plan 00:04:25.100 --> 00:04:27.840 for an execute approaches to reduce risk 00:04:27.840 --> 00:04:29.630 of utility cause wildfires 00:04:29.630 --> 00:04:32.060 through better weather forecasting, 00:04:32.060 --> 00:04:34.603 red hardening and vegetation management. 00:04:35.570 --> 00:04:38.840 One of the tools that is available to the utilities 00:04:38.840 --> 00:04:41.803 is indeed to shut off power to customers. 00:04:43.190 --> 00:04:45.320 Unlike other mitigation strategies, 00:04:45.320 --> 00:04:49.370 these proactive power shutoff for PSPS events 00:04:49.370 --> 00:04:53.790 have very real and direct impacts to customers. 00:04:53.790 --> 00:04:57.120 It is trading individual risk to customers 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:00.180 or reducing wildfire risk. 00:05:00.180 --> 00:05:04.280 This trade off is why PSPS events must always be. 00:05:04.280 --> 00:05:06.850 And we will all underscore this today. 00:05:06.850 --> 00:05:10.440 Must always be a measure of last resort. 00:05:10.440 --> 00:05:12.710 So utilities have the obligation 00:05:12.710 --> 00:05:14.840 to manage their grids responsibly 00:05:14.840 --> 00:05:16.610 and they must keep the safety 00:05:16.610 --> 00:05:20.560 and well-being of their customers as their highest priority. 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:23.090 Well, PSPS is not sustainable. 00:05:23.090 --> 00:05:27.070 It's not a sustainable approach to reducing wildfire risk. 00:05:27.070 --> 00:05:31.190 We must ensure that if and when utilities 00:05:31.190 --> 00:05:33.210 do decide to shut off power, 00:05:33.210 --> 00:05:36.070 they are prepared to execute and communicate 00:05:36.070 --> 00:05:38.483 in a way that minimizes impact. 00:05:39.540 --> 00:05:42.060 Today, Pacific Corp, Liberty and Bear Valley 00:05:42.060 --> 00:05:47.060 has either not used PSPS or used it only rarely. 00:05:47.530 --> 00:05:50.380 This lack of experience makes preparation 00:05:50.380 --> 00:05:54.212 all the more crucial in case any of the utilities 00:05:54.212 --> 00:05:56.260 we will be hearing from today. 00:05:56.260 --> 00:05:59.360 Use PSPS of is this welfare season. 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:01.880 In addition, we know that these entities 00:06:01.880 --> 00:06:04.540 can be impacted by PSPS events, 00:06:04.540 --> 00:06:07.890 call by other entities and utilities. 00:06:07.890 --> 00:06:12.060 For example, their valley is a transmission customer 00:06:12.060 --> 00:06:13.683 of Southern California Edison. 00:06:14.540 --> 00:06:17.040 As with the other utilities today, 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:20.039 I am eager to hear how Pacific Corp, Liberty, 00:06:20.039 --> 00:06:22.180 (clears throat) excuse me, and Bear Valley 00:06:22.180 --> 00:06:25.440 will mitigate impacts of potential power shutoff 00:06:25.440 --> 00:06:28.010 on (clears throat) excuse me. 00:06:28.010 --> 00:06:30.450 On people who rely on electricity 00:06:30.450 --> 00:06:33.200 to maintain necessary life function, 00:06:33.200 --> 00:06:36.335 including or durable medical equipment 00:06:36.335 --> 00:06:38.433 and assistive technology. 00:06:39.740 --> 00:06:42.750 I also wanna hear how they will conduct outreach 00:06:42.750 --> 00:06:45.950 to and notification of all customers 00:06:45.950 --> 00:06:48.480 within a particular focus on customers 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:50.303 with access and functional needs. 00:06:51.340 --> 00:06:53.820 I also want to hear how these utilities 00:06:53.820 --> 00:06:56.010 will coordinate with other utilities 00:06:56.010 --> 00:06:57.983 who they receive transmission from. 00:06:58.900 --> 00:07:01.560 With that I'm very much looking forward 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:03.370 to getting into the specifics 00:07:03.370 --> 00:07:06.690 and having a very thorough dialogue today. 00:07:06.690 --> 00:07:09.670 I will now turn to our representatives 00:07:09.670 --> 00:07:13.580 from Cal OES, Cal Fire and OEIS, 00:07:13.580 --> 00:07:16.980 if you have any opening remarks to share with us today, 00:07:16.980 --> 00:07:19.490 first I'll turn to director Ghilarducci. 00:07:19.490 --> 00:07:20.874 Mark. 00:07:20.874 --> 00:07:21.707 (clears throat) 00:07:21.707 --> 00:07:22.570 I'm ready. 00:07:22.570 --> 00:07:26.270 Good morning, President Batjer, could you hear me okay? 00:07:26.270 --> 00:07:27.103 Yes. 00:07:27.103 --> 00:07:28.750 We hear you fine. 00:07:28.750 --> 00:07:29.583 Okay. Great. 00:07:29.583 --> 00:07:30.416 Well, good morning. 00:07:30.416 --> 00:07:33.610 Thanks President Batjer, and members of the Commission, 00:07:33.610 --> 00:07:36.000 members of utilities that are joined today. 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:37.513 I'm happy to be with you. 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:40.450 I really feel like today's briefing 00:07:40.450 --> 00:07:43.410 with the smaller multi-jurisdictional utilities 00:07:43.410 --> 00:07:46.259 really does provide us another opportunity to get together 00:07:46.259 --> 00:07:49.420 and continue to discuss how we can continue to refine 00:07:49.420 --> 00:07:51.770 and improve our overall efforts 00:07:51.770 --> 00:07:54.740 with regards to public safety, power shutoffs, 00:07:54.740 --> 00:07:58.741 and fire mitigation around our power infrastructure. 00:07:58.741 --> 00:08:02.920 Particularly ensuring that the stage notifications 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:05.540 when they do occur, reflect the highest stage, 00:08:05.540 --> 00:08:09.960 which the IOU has entered into its PSPS activity 00:08:09.960 --> 00:08:11.640 and in a timely fashion. 00:08:11.640 --> 00:08:14.340 It really not the effort of first resort, 00:08:14.340 --> 00:08:17.610 but the effort of last resort. 00:08:17.610 --> 00:08:20.880 We have been working closely 00:08:20.880 --> 00:08:25.880 with the three smaller utilities over the course of 2020. 00:08:27.630 --> 00:08:30.770 I will say that we have been able to successfully 00:08:30.770 --> 00:08:33.480 identify all the relevant contacts 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:38.480 we've made good coordination points of contact and outreach 00:08:39.430 --> 00:08:42.070 and engaged all Pacific Corp, Liberty, 00:08:42.070 --> 00:08:46.360 and Bear Valley in PSPS planning events. 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:50.290 These IOUs have been totally now folded 00:08:50.290 --> 00:08:53.850 into the (indistinct) continuous refinement 00:08:53.850 --> 00:08:58.850 of PSPS events protocol that includes them attending 00:08:59.070 --> 00:09:02.840 monthly state agency partner and IOU coordination calls 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:06.060 actively participating in the state operation center 00:09:06.060 --> 00:09:08.900 situation sell workshops and focus groups 00:09:08.900 --> 00:09:11.930 to improve customer notification procedures 00:09:11.930 --> 00:09:15.610 adopting the standardized executive briefing template 00:09:15.610 --> 00:09:17.870 to be used during PSPS events 00:09:17.870 --> 00:09:19.760 when briefing stage stakeholders 00:09:19.760 --> 00:09:24.760 and seeking feedback from us on their PSPS protocols. 00:09:24.970 --> 00:09:28.750 This is increased engagement in crucial prevent work 00:09:28.750 --> 00:09:33.750 that will ensure that all three utilities PSPS events 00:09:34.280 --> 00:09:37.660 go as smoothly as possible, not only for the end customer, 00:09:37.660 --> 00:09:40.700 but for state stakeholders as well. 00:09:40.700 --> 00:09:42.630 We appreciate all three utilities 00:09:42.630 --> 00:09:46.280 putting in their PSPS planning efforts. 00:09:46.280 --> 00:09:49.410 One area of improvement that we note 00:09:49.410 --> 00:09:54.330 would be to assist in state situational awareness, 00:09:54.330 --> 00:09:56.430 as well as their own operations. 00:09:56.430 --> 00:10:00.310 That adoption of what we call a rest service. 00:10:00.310 --> 00:10:03.680 This is representational state transfer of information. 00:10:03.680 --> 00:10:08.300 In essence, this is pulling mapping through GIS data 00:10:08.300 --> 00:10:12.170 to be able to provide that situational awareness 00:10:12.170 --> 00:10:14.750 up to the state so we can see what is happening 00:10:14.750 --> 00:10:18.090 with the impact to customers throughout their jurisdiction, 00:10:18.090 --> 00:10:19.710 and be able to work with them 00:10:19.710 --> 00:10:24.190 on being able to meet unmet needs as, as they arise. 00:10:24.190 --> 00:10:27.310 And this would also allow for real-time data sharing 00:10:27.310 --> 00:10:30.310 during PSPS events specifically, 00:10:30.310 --> 00:10:34.850 I would say that for Pacific Corp Pacific course first PSPS 00:10:34.850 --> 00:10:36.970 was in September of 2020. 00:10:36.970 --> 00:10:41.030 The IRU did reach out regularly to OES for feedback 00:10:41.030 --> 00:10:43.790 and made sure they were responsive to us. 00:10:43.790 --> 00:10:46.290 What we had questions on their notifications. 00:10:46.290 --> 00:10:49.520 There were some mishaps as there would be expected 00:10:49.520 --> 00:10:51.250 in the first go around, 00:10:51.250 --> 00:10:54.440 but they were quickly corrected by Pacific Corp 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:56.740 and the mistakes were not repeated. 00:10:56.740 --> 00:11:00.510 Pacific Corp then also launched a new PSPS website 00:11:00.510 --> 00:11:02.990 with address lookup for customers 00:11:02.990 --> 00:11:06.920 to see if they were located within the PSPS impacted area. 00:11:06.920 --> 00:11:09.970 All good positive movements forward. 00:11:09.970 --> 00:11:13.280 In the case of Liberty, we did work with them. 00:11:13.280 --> 00:11:16.027 Okay, conducted tabletop exercises on May 25th 00:11:16.027 --> 00:11:19.450 and a full-scale exercise on June 25th, 00:11:19.450 --> 00:11:23.600 we did learn how they did their notifications 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:26.100 and made recommendations on improvements 00:11:26.944 --> 00:11:29.250 or notification informed submittal. 00:11:29.250 --> 00:11:32.450 And Bear Valley did also conduct a tabletop exercise 00:11:32.450 --> 00:11:34.280 on June 21st. 00:11:34.280 --> 00:11:37.600 And again, noting what comes out 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:39.940 of these table top exercises gaps. 00:11:39.940 --> 00:11:43.500 And we were able to identify areas of improvement 00:11:43.500 --> 00:11:48.363 with regards to PSPS notifications in more timely fashion. 00:11:49.560 --> 00:11:52.360 I would say overall, there's still work to be done 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:54.970 with all three of these smaller utilities. 00:11:54.970 --> 00:11:58.670 And of course, all three have been impacted by wildfire 00:11:58.670 --> 00:12:01.330 over the course of the last two years. 00:12:01.330 --> 00:12:04.230 In fact, I was up in Alpine County 00:12:04.230 --> 00:12:06.270 at the Tamarack fire last week, 00:12:06.270 --> 00:12:08.520 and Liberty was very, very actively 00:12:08.520 --> 00:12:11.630 working to get power restored. 00:12:11.630 --> 00:12:15.990 But there's still work to do with community resource centers 00:12:15.990 --> 00:12:20.410 with the AFN community and overall support to the community. 00:12:20.410 --> 00:12:23.070 And I do believe that given the resources 00:12:23.070 --> 00:12:27.300 available to these utilities and their interest and intent, 00:12:27.300 --> 00:12:31.870 they are working in a positive way to try to work with us. 00:12:31.870 --> 00:12:34.500 But again, there's continued work to be done 00:12:34.500 --> 00:12:37.610 and we continue to look forward to working with them. 00:12:37.610 --> 00:12:41.210 So with that President Batjer, back to you. Thank you. 00:12:41.210 --> 00:12:42.043 Great. 00:12:42.043 --> 00:12:44.760 Thank you so much Mark for those remarks. 00:12:44.760 --> 00:12:49.350 Now I will turn to Caroline director of OEIS. 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:53.909 Caroline, do you have any opening remarks? 00:12:53.909 --> 00:12:54.810 Yeah, I'll keep it brief. 00:12:54.810 --> 00:12:56.100 Thank you, President Batjer, again, 00:12:56.100 --> 00:12:59.440 really appreciate the opportunity to be here with all of you 00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:01.750 and get the briefing from the utilities 00:13:01.750 --> 00:13:06.010 on their preparations for this coming PSPS season, 00:13:06.010 --> 00:13:07.993 or we're already in the midst of. 00:13:09.576 --> 00:13:12.920 Certainly re concur with all the comments that both you 00:13:12.920 --> 00:13:14.630 and director Ghilarducci have already mentioned 00:13:14.630 --> 00:13:16.547 in terms of the severity that we're looking at 00:13:16.547 --> 00:13:18.020 and the preparation and the work that needs 00:13:18.020 --> 00:13:21.068 to go into being ready to respond 00:13:21.068 --> 00:13:25.810 and accurately and effectively implement a PSPS this season, 00:13:25.810 --> 00:13:26.870 especially for the smalls. 00:13:26.870 --> 00:13:29.790 I do want to just reiterate what you mentioned, 00:13:29.790 --> 00:13:33.340 President Batjer in the sense that I know that for Liberty 00:13:33.340 --> 00:13:36.120 and Bear Valley, you guys haven't called a PSPS yet. 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:38.840 And certainly what we learned from the larger utilities 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:41.680 is that even with preparation 00:13:41.680 --> 00:13:44.440 that the first few times can be a little bit rough 00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:46.310 in terms of learning the particulars. 00:13:46.310 --> 00:13:48.385 And so I think it's all the more important 00:13:48.385 --> 00:13:51.780 for you guys to be pushing and thinking ahead 00:13:51.780 --> 00:13:54.996 and preparing and practicing what that would look like. 00:13:54.996 --> 00:13:58.110 Because we do have the experience now 00:13:58.110 --> 00:14:00.190 you have the lessons learned from the previous utilities, 00:14:00.190 --> 00:14:01.980 and I think that there's opportunity 00:14:01.980 --> 00:14:05.200 to be able to be better prepared the first go around 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:07.650 then the other utilities as they were initially 00:14:07.650 --> 00:14:10.090 ramping up their PSPS programs. 00:14:10.090 --> 00:14:12.180 So look forward to hearing the progress 00:14:12.180 --> 00:14:15.670 that you've made this year and continue to push on 00:14:15.670 --> 00:14:17.710 and appreciate again, the time 00:14:17.710 --> 00:14:20.573 and opportunity to chat with the utility today. 00:14:21.910 --> 00:14:24.610 Thank you, director, appreciate your remarks very much. 00:14:24.610 --> 00:14:25.443 Chief Berlin. 00:14:25.443 --> 00:14:28.160 Do you have any opening remarks you'd like to make? 00:14:29.060 --> 00:14:31.570 Sure thank you. Good morning, President Batjer, 00:14:31.570 --> 00:14:34.540 and everybody I'll just echo the comments that were made 00:14:34.540 --> 00:14:36.330 specifically, President Batjer, 00:14:36.330 --> 00:14:38.150 your comments about the conditions 00:14:38.150 --> 00:14:41.070 that we're already experiencing this fire season. 00:14:41.070 --> 00:14:44.300 It should be noted that nearly 89% of California 00:14:44.300 --> 00:14:48.010 is under extreme or exceptional drought conditions. 00:14:48.010 --> 00:14:50.240 And we're already seeing the results of those conditions. 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:52.060 We're seeing a significant increase 00:14:52.060 --> 00:14:55.050 in the number of wildfires, the size of wildfires 00:14:55.050 --> 00:14:57.090 and the severity of wildfires. 00:14:57.090 --> 00:15:00.170 And so the 2021 fire season 00:15:00.170 --> 00:15:03.110 is without a doubt off to a busy start. 00:15:03.110 --> 00:15:04.930 And while I feel like I'm a little bit repeating 00:15:04.930 --> 00:15:06.230 what I said last year, 00:15:06.230 --> 00:15:08.910 this year, we are definitely seeing more fires 00:15:08.910 --> 00:15:12.800 than we did to the same time period the year before. 00:15:12.800 --> 00:15:14.450 Today's briefing also very timely. 00:15:14.450 --> 00:15:19.450 As many of the counties served (indistinct) companies 00:15:19.530 --> 00:15:21.640 are under red flag warning conditions this week. 00:15:21.640 --> 00:15:24.610 So we are seeing extreme weather conditions 00:15:24.610 --> 00:15:28.505 in two of the companies, territories and fires 00:15:28.505 --> 00:15:30.120 in their territories as well. 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:32.430 And so definitely look forward to the updates 00:15:32.430 --> 00:15:36.500 on the planning going into PSPS decision making 00:15:36.500 --> 00:15:39.130 and even looking forward to some specific updates 00:15:39.130 --> 00:15:41.260 on the efforts to avoid PSPS 00:15:41.260 --> 00:15:42.740 through infrastructure hardening 00:15:42.740 --> 00:15:44.620 and require vegetation management. 00:15:44.620 --> 00:15:46.350 So on behalf of Cal Fire, 00:15:46.350 --> 00:15:47.730 appreciate the opportunity to be here 00:15:47.730 --> 00:15:50.175 and look forward to the presentation. 00:15:50.175 --> 00:15:52.160 Thank you very much for your remarks Chief. 00:15:52.160 --> 00:15:54.670 And now I will turn to my fellow Commissioners 00:15:54.670 --> 00:15:57.840 and the way you're all being displayed on my screen. 00:15:57.840 --> 00:15:59.450 I can't see you all. 00:15:59.450 --> 00:16:02.855 So I can see Darcy any opening remarks 00:16:02.855 --> 00:16:04.813 from any of the Commissioners. 00:16:05.713 --> 00:16:06.673 Yes, yes. 00:16:07.980 --> 00:16:09.550 Very briefly, 00:16:09.550 --> 00:16:12.520 very much appreciated all of the presentations the last few 00:16:12.520 --> 00:16:14.250 days and looking forward to today 00:16:15.280 --> 00:16:18.380 and for each of the presenters, 00:16:18.380 --> 00:16:21.616 I'll be interested in everything they have to say, 00:16:21.616 --> 00:16:24.650 but also want to hear a little more detail 00:16:24.650 --> 00:16:25.550 on how they're working 00:16:25.550 --> 00:16:28.490 with their community-based organizations 00:16:28.490 --> 00:16:32.163 and also for their assets, emotional needs customers. 00:16:33.620 --> 00:16:38.620 I see that Bear Valley provides for the transportation 00:16:38.690 --> 00:16:43.690 through their mountain aid, but for Pacific Corp 00:16:44.970 --> 00:16:48.600 and providing a transportation access 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:51.372 to too many resource centers. 00:16:51.372 --> 00:16:52.588 Thank you very much. 00:16:52.588 --> 00:16:55.425 Look forward to the presentations and the discussion. 00:16:55.425 --> 00:16:57.640 Thank you, Commissioner Shiroma. 00:16:57.640 --> 00:17:01.050 Any other Commissioners would like to make a comment. 00:17:01.050 --> 00:17:01.883 President Batjer, 00:17:01.883 --> 00:17:04.870 this is Commissioner is mana service here on the phone. 00:17:04.870 --> 00:17:09.780 I just wanted to, I really here and I see 00:17:09.780 --> 00:17:11.910 that the Pacific Corp we'll be touching on this, 00:17:11.910 --> 00:17:15.690 but clearly in our last previous update, 00:17:15.690 --> 00:17:17.790 there was a recognition of the need 00:17:17.790 --> 00:17:21.530 to really double down on communicating, 00:17:21.530 --> 00:17:23.820 improved communication with the tribal nations 00:17:23.820 --> 00:17:24.810 in their territory. 00:17:24.810 --> 00:17:28.152 So I look forward to hearing on that progress. 00:17:28.152 --> 00:17:29.410 Thank you. 00:17:29.410 --> 00:17:31.207 Thank you. Commissioner (indistinct). 00:17:33.250 --> 00:17:36.700 I see Commissioner (mumbles) you have said you're okay. 00:17:36.700 --> 00:17:39.400 And I think Commissioner Houck.xx says the same thing. 00:17:40.740 --> 00:17:44.000 So we will then thank you Commissioners. 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:47.120 We will proceed then to the first presentation 00:17:47.120 --> 00:17:48.520 from Pacific Corp, 00:17:48.520 --> 00:17:50.980 we have the president of transmission 00:17:50.980 --> 00:17:54.540 and distribution strategy from Pacific Corp here with us 00:17:54.540 --> 00:17:56.080 to do the presentation. 00:17:56.080 --> 00:17:57.993 Sir, would you like to begin? 00:18:00.020 --> 00:18:01.020 All right, thank you. 00:18:01.020 --> 00:18:02.420 First let me just do a mic check 00:18:02.420 --> 00:18:04.290 and make sure everyone can hear me okay. 00:18:04.290 --> 00:18:05.990 We can hear you fine. 00:18:05.990 --> 00:18:07.440 All right it looks like it. 00:18:08.354 --> 00:18:10.863 And my presentation, would it be displayed? 00:18:12.490 --> 00:18:13.533 Yes, it is up. 00:18:15.760 --> 00:18:16.593 Oh, there it is. 00:18:16.593 --> 00:18:17.720 Thank you. 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:19.360 All right. Good morning, President Batjer, 00:18:19.360 --> 00:18:22.210 Commissioners and other agency officials. 00:18:22.210 --> 00:18:24.780 First, let me just say thank you for the opportunity 00:18:24.780 --> 00:18:27.300 to review Pacific Corps' Public Safety 00:18:27.300 --> 00:18:29.480 Power Shutoff preparedness. 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:32.603 So why don't we go ahead and go to the next slide, please. 00:18:35.430 --> 00:18:37.870 So as noted on the slide and for the record, 00:18:37.870 --> 00:18:40.730 my name is Allen Berreth and I'm the vice-president 00:18:40.730 --> 00:18:43.435 of transmission and distribution operations 00:18:43.435 --> 00:18:45.340 for Pacific Corp. 00:18:45.340 --> 00:18:49.040 I should note that, well, I'll be giving the presentation. 00:18:49.040 --> 00:18:51.510 I am joined on the call by Kurt Mansfield, 00:18:51.510 --> 00:18:54.290 our senior vice president of power delivery. 00:18:54.290 --> 00:18:57.510 And in case there are any detailed questions 00:18:57.510 --> 00:18:58.690 after the presentation, 00:18:58.690 --> 00:19:00.500 or sounds like throughout the presentation, 00:19:00.500 --> 00:19:02.030 I have Justin, the Cartec, 00:19:02.030 --> 00:19:04.890 our director of emergency management available, 00:19:04.890 --> 00:19:06.560 and also Melissa Nottingham, 00:19:06.560 --> 00:19:10.330 our manager of customer advocacy and tariff policy 00:19:10.330 --> 00:19:13.310 are also available to answering questions. 00:19:13.310 --> 00:19:15.120 We'll be going through the following topics, 00:19:15.120 --> 00:19:18.410 which touch on our preparedness for PSPS 00:19:18.410 --> 00:19:21.180 and also the longer term grid hardening 00:19:21.180 --> 00:19:22.963 and customer communication, 00:19:24.280 --> 00:19:25.577 all the different aspects that we've touched on 00:19:25.577 --> 00:19:27.590 in the opening remarks. 00:19:27.590 --> 00:19:30.243 So with that, let's go to the next slide, please. 00:19:33.460 --> 00:19:34.293 All right. 00:19:34.293 --> 00:19:35.570 So before we go into the details, 00:19:35.570 --> 00:19:38.490 I'd like to provide a little bit of context for Pacific Corp 00:19:38.490 --> 00:19:41.260 in our service territory in California. 00:19:41.260 --> 00:19:44.230 So shown here on the image in Northern California, 00:19:44.230 --> 00:19:48.250 outlined in black is our service territory. 00:19:48.250 --> 00:19:52.050 In purple is the tier two area 00:19:52.050 --> 00:19:55.850 and then shown in red is the tier three. 00:19:55.850 --> 00:19:58.730 And so in discussions, when it comes to PSPS, 00:19:58.730 --> 00:20:02.343 it's that tier three, that subset of our service territory 00:20:02.343 --> 00:20:06.080 that has the PSPS planning involved. 00:20:06.080 --> 00:20:09.930 We do serve 45,000 customers 00:20:09.930 --> 00:20:12.143 in our California service territory. 00:20:12.990 --> 00:20:14.410 And as we go to the next slide, 00:20:14.410 --> 00:20:17.470 we'll see what subset of that 45,000 00:20:17.470 --> 00:20:22.470 or in that tier three or PSPS planning. 00:20:23.970 --> 00:20:27.480 So as we zoom in to that red area 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:29.320 that we showed on the previous slide 00:20:29.320 --> 00:20:31.580 and look at that tier three area 00:20:31.580 --> 00:20:35.730 in the table and lower right, you see the stats. 00:20:35.730 --> 00:20:37.920 So these are the areas that have been identified 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:41.150 as extreme risk geographic locations, 00:20:41.150 --> 00:20:43.520 either inside that tier three 00:20:43.520 --> 00:20:45.530 or we're right next to that tier three. 00:20:45.530 --> 00:20:49.160 So we incorporated and electrically connected our system 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:52.470 that affects and impacts that tier three area. 00:20:52.470 --> 00:20:53.540 So within that area, 00:20:53.540 --> 00:20:58.540 we've subdivided these locations into five discreet zones 00:20:58.980 --> 00:21:01.617 that we can take action on independently, 00:21:01.617 --> 00:21:04.680 given that conditions might not affect this entire area 00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:06.620 all the same at the same time. 00:21:06.620 --> 00:21:08.820 So it's subdivided into five zones 00:21:08.820 --> 00:21:11.020 as shown in the table there. 00:21:11.020 --> 00:21:14.130 And you can see this is a little over 10,000 customers 00:21:14.130 --> 00:21:18.271 served from nine substations, 20 distribution circuits, 00:21:18.271 --> 00:21:21.090 and about 260 overhead line miles 00:21:21.090 --> 00:21:24.843 are in this elevated tier three area. 00:21:26.030 --> 00:21:27.720 So while these are the areas 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:30.630 that have been identified for elevated risk 00:21:30.630 --> 00:21:32.830 and our PSPS planning, 00:21:32.830 --> 00:21:35.840 I do wanna know that we do monitor conditions 00:21:35.840 --> 00:21:37.410 across our service territory. 00:21:37.410 --> 00:21:41.510 So we don't have blinders on only looking at the PSPS areas. 00:21:41.510 --> 00:21:43.350 That's just where additional planning 00:21:43.350 --> 00:21:44.250 or asset hardening 00:21:44.250 --> 00:21:47.410 would be prioritized first to take action. 00:21:47.410 --> 00:21:49.330 Our situational awareness goes, 00:21:49.330 --> 00:21:52.580 does go across our entire service territory 00:21:52.580 --> 00:21:56.002 so that we are monitoring conditions and can take actions 00:21:56.002 --> 00:22:00.993 as needed and dictated by on the ground conditions. 00:22:03.520 --> 00:22:05.770 With that let's go to the next slide, please. 00:22:09.950 --> 00:22:10.783 All right. 00:22:10.783 --> 00:22:13.220 So now let's transition and talk about vegetation 00:22:13.220 --> 00:22:15.610 and the threat posed to the electrical system 00:22:15.610 --> 00:22:17.890 through either the fallen risk 00:22:17.890 --> 00:22:20.670 of that nearby trees in our right away 00:22:20.670 --> 00:22:22.310 or outside of our right away 00:22:22.310 --> 00:22:24.350 can pose to the electrical system, 00:22:24.350 --> 00:22:27.650 or even that blow in risk from vegetation trees 00:22:27.650 --> 00:22:29.410 that are nearby that has branches 00:22:29.410 --> 00:22:32.520 that either are blown out of the tree 00:22:32.520 --> 00:22:34.580 or into that, that can make contact 00:22:34.580 --> 00:22:37.150 with the electrical system and create a fault 00:22:37.150 --> 00:22:40.580 or a possible ignition condition. 00:22:40.580 --> 00:22:45.100 And based on our historical data from 2015 to 2020 00:22:45.100 --> 00:22:49.180 vegetation most likely causes around 26% 00:22:49.180 --> 00:22:53.860 of our fire risk events and 24% of our fire ignition events, 00:22:53.860 --> 00:22:57.260 which basically about 25% of all our risks 00:22:57.260 --> 00:22:59.320 and admission events, 00:22:59.320 --> 00:23:02.670 which is why it's an important area to focus on 00:23:02.670 --> 00:23:04.940 with our wildfire mitigation plan. 00:23:04.940 --> 00:23:07.220 And so what are we doing in the short term? 00:23:07.220 --> 00:23:09.940 So you see it they're listed on the slide, 00:23:09.940 --> 00:23:12.330 which is an increase in vegetation inspections 00:23:12.330 --> 00:23:15.480 in these high risk areas, meaning an annual inspection 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:18.390 of what is the condition of vegetation near our lines, 00:23:18.390 --> 00:23:21.560 and do any conditions need to be resolved. 00:23:21.560 --> 00:23:24.990 And where we've seen an increase 00:23:24.990 --> 00:23:27.570 due to the drought conditions and health of these trees 00:23:27.570 --> 00:23:30.520 is an increase in a high-risk tree inventory. 00:23:30.520 --> 00:23:32.460 And so understanding what trees 00:23:32.460 --> 00:23:36.010 and your dead and dying trees need to be removed. 00:23:36.010 --> 00:23:38.830 And so doing an inventory of those trees 00:23:38.830 --> 00:23:42.350 in an accelerated removal of them, 00:23:42.350 --> 00:23:44.530 once they've been identified. 00:23:44.530 --> 00:23:47.883 We also a radial pole clearing around the base of our poles, 00:23:47.883 --> 00:23:49.750 a 10 foot around equipment poles, 00:23:49.750 --> 00:23:53.840 so that as the equipment operates a fuse opens, 00:23:53.840 --> 00:23:55.970 we make sure there's no fuel available 00:23:55.970 --> 00:23:57.680 at the base of those equipment poles 00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:02.323 that could create a situation with fire spreading, right? 00:24:03.370 --> 00:24:06.450 And in situation awareness through data collection. 00:24:06.450 --> 00:24:09.760 So what that means for us in the vegetation management realm 00:24:09.760 --> 00:24:12.690 is well, we don't have a tree inventory 00:24:12.690 --> 00:24:15.976 of every tree we have, 00:24:15.976 --> 00:24:18.240 we have a tree inventory of the high risk trees 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:20.120 as they're identified, 00:24:20.120 --> 00:24:22.170 but there's not a complete inventory of the trees 00:24:22.170 --> 00:24:24.100 around our electrical systems. 00:24:24.100 --> 00:24:28.460 And so to start a journey toward establishing that 00:24:28.460 --> 00:24:31.700 we're piloting programs such as satellite imagery 00:24:31.700 --> 00:24:34.460 and the images shown on the screen here, 00:24:34.460 --> 00:24:36.690 where we start getting a sense of 00:24:36.690 --> 00:24:40.090 what is using the satellite imagery, LIDAR, 00:24:40.090 --> 00:24:41.647 where did these trees exist? 00:24:41.647 --> 00:24:45.743 What's the density of these trees, density of tree canopy, 00:24:46.929 --> 00:24:48.950 so that we can start quantifying 00:24:48.950 --> 00:24:51.070 the risk of vegetation management 00:24:51.070 --> 00:24:53.370 in subsections of our circuits. 00:24:53.370 --> 00:24:57.210 So that can inform our vegetation management program, 00:24:57.210 --> 00:24:59.770 prioritized areas where we might have 00:24:59.770 --> 00:25:02.920 to do increased trimming, increased frequency. 00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:04.470 And so we're pushing for that. 00:25:04.470 --> 00:25:06.690 That will also eventually create an inventory 00:25:06.690 --> 00:25:08.480 of our veg management risk 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:12.770 and quantify the risk reduction over time. 00:25:12.770 --> 00:25:15.083 That's our goal with vegetation management. 00:25:16.610 --> 00:25:20.780 Transitioning to the longterm shown in the lower right there 00:25:20.780 --> 00:25:24.470 is rebuilding our overhead lines to cupboard conductor. 00:25:24.470 --> 00:25:29.090 So that just mitigating that potential interference 00:25:29.090 --> 00:25:31.000 of a branch or a tree 00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:34.010 making contact with a bare overhead wire. 00:25:34.010 --> 00:25:36.623 And so we'll rebuild the lines to cover conductor, 00:25:38.210 --> 00:25:43.210 also changing out relays reclosers to newer relay detection, 00:25:43.890 --> 00:25:47.470 where we can detect heightened impedance faults 00:25:47.470 --> 00:25:50.610 anticipate fault before there's actual ignition event 00:25:50.610 --> 00:25:55.560 wave form analysis seeing if we can proactively determined 00:25:55.560 --> 00:25:57.760 that there could be a potential tree interference 00:25:57.760 --> 00:25:58.830 somewhere out on the line 00:25:58.830 --> 00:26:02.370 before it actually creates that ignition or fault, right? 00:26:02.370 --> 00:26:05.870 And then that also plays into a system automation 00:26:05.870 --> 00:26:08.670 of switching around, sectionalizing, 00:26:08.670 --> 00:26:10.440 reducing the customer impact 00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:15.283 to these highly dense vegetation areas. 00:26:16.120 --> 00:26:18.120 That's our longer-term build out goal 00:26:18.120 --> 00:26:19.690 when it comes to vegetation management, 00:26:19.690 --> 00:26:21.420 how to mitigate that risk. 00:26:21.420 --> 00:26:24.890 Specifically with our 2021 vegetation management progress 00:26:24.890 --> 00:26:28.520 in California, we're about 60% through our annual program, 00:26:28.520 --> 00:26:31.520 which makes sense, given where we're at in the year, 00:26:31.520 --> 00:26:35.910 that is around 11,000 poles have been cleared, 00:26:35.910 --> 00:26:38.130 radio pole clearing at the base of it. 00:26:38.130 --> 00:26:42.310 We've inspected around 1800 miles of line. 00:26:42.310 --> 00:26:47.310 We have cleared 1400 miles of line conducted a tree pruning 00:26:49.312 --> 00:26:51.530 and ensuring that clearance exists. 00:26:51.530 --> 00:26:56.160 That's resulted in around 22,000 trees have been pruned 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:58.770 2,400 trees have been removed. 00:26:58.770 --> 00:27:01.000 So speaking to that hazard tree inventory 00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:01.833 and removal process. 00:27:01.833 --> 00:27:04.690 So 2,400 so far this year. 00:27:04.690 --> 00:27:06.400 Again, those are year to date numbers, 00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:09.880 which represent about 60% of our annual program. 00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:14.453 So, all right, let's go to the next slide please. 00:27:18.370 --> 00:27:20.637 So moving beyond vegetation management 00:27:20.637 --> 00:27:24.530 as a mitigation measure, let's go a little longer term 00:27:24.530 --> 00:27:26.810 and let's now talk about other actions being taken 00:27:26.810 --> 00:27:30.040 to harden the system and reduce the likelihood 00:27:30.040 --> 00:27:34.440 or need or scope of a public safety power shutoff. 00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:37.030 And so, as I mentioned earlier about cupboard conductor, 00:27:37.030 --> 00:27:41.083 that is our mainline mitigate our main mitigation strategy. 00:27:41.990 --> 00:27:45.610 Just reducing that exposure for overhead line 00:27:45.610 --> 00:27:49.070 and coupled with installation of line reclosers 00:27:49.070 --> 00:27:50.870 and substation relays, 00:27:50.870 --> 00:27:55.300 to be able to have the system react quicker to the, 00:27:55.300 --> 00:28:00.300 if a fault exists, if an interference on our line exists. 00:28:00.690 --> 00:28:04.140 And so our mitigation efforts are ramping up in 2021 00:28:04.140 --> 00:28:07.580 compared to what we were able to accomplish in 2020, 00:28:07.580 --> 00:28:11.100 we are on track for delivering 85 miles of covered conductor 00:28:11.100 --> 00:28:12.833 by the end of 2021. 00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:16.870 And with the installation of 27 reclosers 00:28:16.870 --> 00:28:18.700 relays being installed 00:28:18.700 --> 00:28:20.623 out on the line and in our substation. 00:28:21.760 --> 00:28:25.740 As an example of how this reduces the scope of PSPS, 00:28:25.740 --> 00:28:28.080 the graphic on this slide is just showing 00:28:28.080 --> 00:28:30.860 one of those PSPS areas. 00:28:30.860 --> 00:28:32.480 When I said, we took our tier three 00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:36.080 subdivided it into five zones on the image there, 00:28:36.080 --> 00:28:38.590 you're looking at the Mount Shasta zone 00:28:38.590 --> 00:28:42.040 and it showing our covered conductor project 00:28:42.040 --> 00:28:44.710 that we've completed in that area, in the Mount Shasta area, 00:28:44.710 --> 00:28:48.180 which creates a ring fence in the downtown area 00:28:48.180 --> 00:28:50.970 that can stay energized and elevated wind events, 00:28:50.970 --> 00:28:52.900 allowing more system flexibility 00:28:52.900 --> 00:28:54.100 with the goal of reducing 00:28:54.100 --> 00:28:56.140 the impact of a PSPS events, right? 00:28:56.140 --> 00:28:59.202 So as soon as we put that covered conductor in place, 00:28:59.202 --> 00:29:01.850 we can withstand higher winds in that area. 00:29:01.850 --> 00:29:06.299 Meaning we don't have to de-energize that core area 00:29:06.299 --> 00:29:09.090 under the same conditions as before. 00:29:09.090 --> 00:29:13.250 And then we only have to be energized the taps out of town, 00:29:13.250 --> 00:29:15.500 wherever the direction of the elevated wind 00:29:15.500 --> 00:29:17.160 or fire conditions exist. 00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:18.100 So it's just an example. 00:29:18.100 --> 00:29:20.710 And then we work out from there in the coming years 00:29:20.710 --> 00:29:23.350 and accomplished peppered conductor from those taps, 00:29:23.350 --> 00:29:25.530 meaning that we can go through 00:29:25.530 --> 00:29:27.910 that system can withstand even higher 00:29:27.910 --> 00:29:31.300 elevated fire weather conditions, right? 00:29:31.300 --> 00:29:33.509 And so even steps that we're taking 00:29:33.509 --> 00:29:36.321 in the first year or two, 00:29:36.321 --> 00:29:40.185 even though it is a three, four year plan 00:29:40.185 --> 00:29:44.470 each stage mitigates and reduces the likelihood 00:29:44.470 --> 00:29:47.460 or the impact of a PSPS event, right? 00:29:47.460 --> 00:29:51.090 And as we add reclosers out each of these directions 00:29:51.090 --> 00:29:54.870 from the downtown, they to allow us to sectionalize 00:29:54.870 --> 00:29:56.800 what areas would be impacted, 00:29:56.800 --> 00:30:00.993 which customers would be impacted by a possible PSPS event. 00:30:02.500 --> 00:30:06.017 Asset inspections are also a key component of preparedness. 00:30:06.017 --> 00:30:08.817 And so in these areas where we go out 00:30:08.817 --> 00:30:10.710 and make sure we do an annual visual assurance inspection, 00:30:10.710 --> 00:30:13.190 we patrol the line, note any conditions, 00:30:13.190 --> 00:30:15.130 and if any conditions are found, 00:30:15.130 --> 00:30:17.853 they are corrected on an accelerated timeline. 00:30:18.937 --> 00:30:22.280 IR inspections are scheduled for the transmission lines 00:30:22.280 --> 00:30:26.270 through the PSPS areas or the FHC eight tier three areas. 00:30:26.270 --> 00:30:28.390 We conduct these infrared inspections 00:30:28.390 --> 00:30:31.280 when the loading on the transmission line is at peak 00:30:31.280 --> 00:30:35.860 to make sure that if there are any issues 00:30:35.860 --> 00:30:37.480 that highlights them the most 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:40.630 during those heavier lifted times of the year. 00:30:40.630 --> 00:30:43.090 So based on that forecast, that loading of the lines, 00:30:43.090 --> 00:30:45.486 and we'd divide that into three flights a year, 00:30:45.486 --> 00:30:48.850 April, July in December, just based on the loading. 00:30:48.850 --> 00:30:50.800 So the first two that have been accomplished 00:30:50.800 --> 00:30:54.350 and in December, we'll accomplish the third IR flight 00:30:54.350 --> 00:30:56.450 for the transmission lines in these areas. 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:01.063 All right, next slide please. 00:31:02.330 --> 00:31:04.490 Allen, can I ask a question? 00:31:04.490 --> 00:31:07.250 And it looks like you might be getting into. 00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:09.023 This is Caroline from OEIS. 00:31:10.420 --> 00:31:14.290 In the vegetation management, as well as the grid hardening. 00:31:14.290 --> 00:31:15.443 And if you're gonna get to this later in the slide deck, 00:31:15.443 --> 00:31:17.350 you can just say, you're gonna answer it later, 00:31:17.350 --> 00:31:21.040 but can you walk us through how those improvements 00:31:21.040 --> 00:31:23.850 change the threshold you've referred to a couple of times 00:31:23.850 --> 00:31:26.100 that it would change the threshold 00:31:26.100 --> 00:31:30.400 of when you would have to call up PSPS 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:32.122 in your decision making. 00:31:32.122 --> 00:31:33.820 Are you gonna get to that later? 00:31:33.820 --> 00:31:36.080 Or can you speak to that a little bit now? 00:31:36.080 --> 00:31:38.310 Well, that's a great segue for the, yeah. 00:31:38.310 --> 00:31:40.350 The slide I was about to touch on. 00:31:40.350 --> 00:31:43.000 So let's go through how those changes 00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:45.250 would impact the decision making 00:31:45.250 --> 00:31:47.593 for what's leading up to a PSPS. 00:31:49.632 --> 00:31:51.720 So yeah, let me go through this 00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:54.016 and see if I don't answer that question. 00:31:54.016 --> 00:31:56.150 And then if not hold me to it 00:31:56.150 --> 00:31:58.140 and let me make sure I answer it. 00:31:58.140 --> 00:32:00.070 Because while that grid hardening 00:32:00.070 --> 00:32:04.290 is a long-term mitigation strategy in the short term 00:32:04.290 --> 00:32:06.220 that public safety power shutoff 00:32:06.220 --> 00:32:08.520 is available tool and totally understood 00:32:08.520 --> 00:32:10.380 as a measure of last resort 00:32:10.380 --> 00:32:12.060 is when it would want to be used 00:32:12.060 --> 00:32:14.990 in extreme fire weather conditions. 00:32:14.990 --> 00:32:17.920 And the decision-making for public safety power shutoff 00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:19.900 has a number of inputs 00:32:19.900 --> 00:32:23.720 as the conditions for a geographic area are evaluated 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:27.080 and shown on the slide there in the bottom half 00:32:27.080 --> 00:32:31.416 are the difference, fire weather indexes they've been used 00:32:31.416 --> 00:32:33.740 across the various utilities. 00:32:33.740 --> 00:32:35.440 These are the inputs that we look at 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:38.940 from the Fosberg and KBDI and vapor pressure deficit 00:32:38.940 --> 00:32:40.823 as these change in the areas. 00:32:40.823 --> 00:32:44.360 And then you couple that dry fuel 00:32:44.360 --> 00:32:45.847 kind of drought weather conditions, 00:32:45.847 --> 00:32:50.010 and couple that with wind speeds and the wind direction 00:32:50.010 --> 00:32:53.180 to decide whether or not as those elevate action 00:32:53.180 --> 00:32:54.673 needs to take place. 00:32:55.829 --> 00:32:59.990 And it's not just a mathematical formula 00:32:59.990 --> 00:33:02.620 of a certain threshold that we use universally 00:33:02.620 --> 00:33:04.420 across all our areas. 00:33:04.420 --> 00:33:06.180 By looking back at history, 00:33:06.180 --> 00:33:08.670 we've been able to see for each of these circuits 00:33:08.670 --> 00:33:13.620 and even sections of the circuits under what wind conditions 00:33:13.620 --> 00:33:15.900 have outages occurred in the past. 00:33:15.900 --> 00:33:19.450 So on some circuits that might be a 35 mile per hour winds 00:33:19.450 --> 00:33:20.680 where outages occurred. 00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:24.660 And on another circuit, and another section of that circuit, 00:33:24.660 --> 00:33:27.400 it might be able to go up to 40, 45 mile per hour winds 00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.860 before outages occur on the system. 00:33:30.860 --> 00:33:34.343 And so by understanding that and getting more granular, 00:33:35.620 --> 00:33:39.400 the thresholds is very unique to the individual circuits 00:33:40.280 --> 00:33:43.440 in areas on whether or not it's elevating 00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:47.020 through this PSPS decision-making framework. 00:33:47.020 --> 00:33:50.330 So the question of, so then as we do covered conductor, 00:33:50.330 --> 00:33:54.120 then yes, for that area, that circuit, with that in mind, 00:33:54.120 --> 00:33:56.787 we would know it can go up higher 00:33:56.787 --> 00:33:59.470 than what it previously was able to, right? 00:33:59.470 --> 00:34:01.310 So, whereas that circuit, we might say, oh, well, 00:34:01.310 --> 00:34:03.720 traditionally we saw outages at 35 miles per hour. 00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:06.780 You know, now we know what the cover conductor, 00:34:06.780 --> 00:34:07.800 it can go above that. 00:34:07.800 --> 00:34:11.200 And so that is uniquely taken into the decision-making 00:34:11.200 --> 00:34:13.023 for that circuit, all right? 00:34:14.170 --> 00:34:18.127 Also while the environmental inputs are considered 00:34:18.127 --> 00:34:20.850 in the wind conditions weather 00:34:20.850 --> 00:34:22.630 it is also the condition of the system. 00:34:22.630 --> 00:34:25.980 So part of this decision making process is also reaching out 00:34:25.980 --> 00:34:28.840 and doing an inspection. 00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:32.107 One, when was the last vegetation inspection? 00:34:32.107 --> 00:34:35.760 When was the last cycle trimming conducted? 00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.990 What conditions exist? What is the hazard tree? 00:34:38.990 --> 00:34:40.240 What are the known conditions? 00:34:40.240 --> 00:34:42.650 That all goes into the decision making as well. 00:34:42.650 --> 00:34:45.910 So that we know that that circuit was just inspected. 00:34:45.910 --> 00:34:48.410 Vegetation management was just completed. 00:34:48.410 --> 00:34:51.140 We have a better feel about what the impacts 00:34:51.140 --> 00:34:53.850 under certain weather conditions. 00:34:53.850 --> 00:34:55.980 So what should that threshold be, 00:34:55.980 --> 00:34:58.000 is all taken into consideration. 00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.150 It makes it hard then for the decision-making framework 00:35:00.150 --> 00:35:02.090 to be expressed as like a formula, 00:35:02.090 --> 00:35:04.203 because we're taking all of this information in 00:35:04.203 --> 00:35:05.980 very unique to a circuit, 00:35:05.980 --> 00:35:09.020 very unique to its specific conditions at that time 00:35:09.020 --> 00:35:13.590 and making a decision as we monitor and watch it 00:35:13.590 --> 00:35:16.023 through this flow chart as it elevates that. 00:35:18.085 --> 00:35:21.470 Also incorporated into this decision-making framework 00:35:21.470 --> 00:35:23.800 is reaching out to others beyond specific, 00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:28.710 or we reach out to other emergency agencies in the community 00:35:28.710 --> 00:35:31.707 and ask, "What are they experiencing right now?" 00:35:31.707 --> 00:35:35.400 "What are conditions, from their perspective?" 00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:40.132 Which might be an active fire is already being 00:35:40.132 --> 00:35:42.152 responded to right now. 00:35:42.152 --> 00:35:47.152 And that a PSPS situation could make the community response, 00:35:48.950 --> 00:35:49.783 could hamper it, right? 00:35:49.783 --> 00:35:50.950 It could make it worse. 00:35:50.950 --> 00:35:53.930 And so we need that feedback to make sure we understand 00:35:53.930 --> 00:35:56.700 that we are actually reducing risk and not creating risk. 00:35:56.700 --> 00:36:00.230 And we only accomplish that by reaching out 00:36:00.230 --> 00:36:03.970 as part of the PSPS decision-making framework 00:36:03.970 --> 00:36:07.000 in incorporating all that information. 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:10.422 At the end of the day, it is the utility that decides 00:36:10.422 --> 00:36:11.880 whether or not a PSPS will occur, 00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:14.100 but we don't make that decision in a vacuum. 00:36:14.100 --> 00:36:15.670 And so we wanna collaborate with others. 00:36:15.670 --> 00:36:18.730 We wanna understand what other agencies are seeing, 00:36:18.730 --> 00:36:20.130 let them know what we're seeing 00:36:20.130 --> 00:36:21.887 and what action we are taking. 00:36:21.887 --> 00:36:25.640 And so that means advanced notifications 00:36:25.640 --> 00:36:27.790 to these agencies and our customers. 00:36:27.790 --> 00:36:31.090 If we're looking at, if it's elevating up to a PSPS watch, 00:36:31.090 --> 00:36:34.280 a PSPS activation is being forecasted. 00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:36.980 Then that kicks off the 72 hour notifications, 00:36:36.980 --> 00:36:38.500 48 hour notifications, 00:36:38.500 --> 00:36:42.530 where we started doing outbound calling to our customers 00:36:42.530 --> 00:36:46.648 and personal phone calls to our medical baseline customers, 00:36:46.648 --> 00:36:49.712 AFN notifications, 00:36:49.712 --> 00:36:53.300 there's a whole time's notification process 00:36:53.300 --> 00:36:56.723 as we get closer to an actual PSPS watch or event. 00:36:58.837 --> 00:37:01.037 (indistinct) 00:37:01.037 --> 00:37:03.350 Caroline, is that getting to your question 00:37:03.350 --> 00:37:04.783 was guarding the threshold? 00:37:06.300 --> 00:37:08.303 Well, it sounds like if I understand your Allen correctly, 00:37:08.303 --> 00:37:11.770 that it's a circuit by circuit threshold, 00:37:11.770 --> 00:37:15.280 so therefore the numbers could vary widely. 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:16.480 Is that correct? 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:17.313 Correct. 00:37:17.313 --> 00:37:20.393 Because absolutely because in our journey to make sure 00:37:20.393 --> 00:37:23.570 that we're not impacting customers unnecessarily 00:37:23.570 --> 00:37:24.900 in certain areas of the circuit 00:37:24.900 --> 00:37:26.800 that can withstand higher winds, 00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:30.740 we wanted to move away from a universal threshold 00:37:30.740 --> 00:37:34.080 because certain circuits and conditions 00:37:34.080 --> 00:37:37.283 allow us to be more surgical. 00:37:38.730 --> 00:37:40.330 So, and if you don't have the detail here 00:37:40.330 --> 00:37:42.330 in this presentation, we can do it as a follow-up, 00:37:42.330 --> 00:37:46.180 but it would be, I would like to understand better 00:37:46.180 --> 00:37:49.360 the range of the thresholds and how those are changing 00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:51.403 based on the mitigation efforts 00:37:51.403 --> 00:37:54.262 that you presented on the other slides. 00:37:54.262 --> 00:37:55.095 Yeah. 00:37:56.270 --> 00:37:58.923 To verify other question as well, 00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:04.000 of all of the considerations that you have to make, 00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:05.643 and you've detailed them here. 00:38:07.167 --> 00:38:08.520 How do you... 00:38:08.520 --> 00:38:11.160 What kind of consideration do you give 00:38:11.160 --> 00:38:15.780 to the health and welfare of the people 00:38:15.780 --> 00:38:20.270 and the safety of the people who will be going, 00:38:20.270 --> 00:38:21.593 who will be de-energized? 00:38:23.110 --> 00:38:28.020 How do you factor that in that, I mean, 00:38:28.020 --> 00:38:32.210 obviously the safety of the system and the hardening 00:38:32.210 --> 00:38:35.290 and the mitigation plans, but what about the people? 00:38:35.290 --> 00:38:36.123 What about the people 00:38:36.123 --> 00:38:37.970 who are actually going to be de-energized? 00:38:37.970 --> 00:38:41.700 I mean, you've mentioned your, how, how you, 00:38:41.700 --> 00:38:43.820 by, by our guidelines, 00:38:43.820 --> 00:38:46.430 you must do the notification properly, 00:38:46.430 --> 00:38:51.430 but our guidelines also call for consideration of the safety 00:38:52.710 --> 00:38:54.640 and the health and welfare of the people 00:38:54.640 --> 00:38:55.920 who will be de-energized. 00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:59.250 'Cause it is a safety, it's a terrible safety issue. 00:38:59.250 --> 00:39:00.083 Right. 00:39:00.083 --> 00:39:01.910 Yeah, thank you for the question 00:39:01.910 --> 00:39:05.620 and that kind of clarification of how we view that. 00:39:05.620 --> 00:39:07.390 And we'll get into some of the slides 00:39:07.390 --> 00:39:10.760 that look at well identification of vulnerable customers. 00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:12.040 So then you know all right, 00:39:12.040 --> 00:39:14.470 what a community resource centers are we providing? 00:39:14.470 --> 00:39:16.300 What services are we providing for them? 00:39:16.300 --> 00:39:18.350 What's the backup generation. 00:39:18.350 --> 00:39:19.410 So I'll touch on that 00:39:19.410 --> 00:39:21.493 in some of these future slides as well. 00:39:22.560 --> 00:39:25.440 And I also view that as part of our reaching out 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:26.920 to local emergency partners 00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:29.920 and identification of vulnerable customers ahead of time 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:31.000 and identification 00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.340 of our critical infrastructure ahead of time 00:39:33.340 --> 00:39:35.590 to fully understand that impact 00:39:35.590 --> 00:39:37.180 to our customers in these areas. 00:39:37.180 --> 00:39:39.550 And that's all part of that tabletop exercise 00:39:39.550 --> 00:39:40.470 and that preparedness. 00:39:40.470 --> 00:39:43.590 So yes, very much a part of a process. 00:39:43.590 --> 00:39:45.000 Yeah. Yeah. 00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:46.310 Well, I look forward to, 00:39:46.310 --> 00:39:48.460 to when we get to that part in the presentation. 00:39:48.460 --> 00:39:49.867 Thank you. 00:39:49.867 --> 00:39:50.700 All right. Thank you. 00:39:50.700 --> 00:39:52.180 Allen, this is Daniel from Cal Fire. 00:39:52.180 --> 00:39:54.050 If I could just ask at this point, 00:39:54.050 --> 00:39:56.930 you had mentioned related to some of the hardening work 00:39:56.930 --> 00:39:58.190 that you're doing 00:39:58.190 --> 00:40:01.150 and you spoke to detecting ground impedance faults. 00:40:01.150 --> 00:40:03.490 Can you talk about any additional 00:40:03.490 --> 00:40:06.040 or new emerging technologies that you may be looking at, 00:40:06.040 --> 00:40:08.950 like distribution fault anticipation technology 00:40:08.950 --> 00:40:11.850 that your company might be bringing 00:40:11.850 --> 00:40:14.860 into the hardening topic? 00:40:14.860 --> 00:40:17.050 Yeah, thank you for that question, 00:40:17.050 --> 00:40:18.380 because that is an exciting 00:40:18.380 --> 00:40:20.160 kind of advancement of technology 00:40:20.160 --> 00:40:22.130 in that way form analytics 00:40:22.130 --> 00:40:25.330 and almost preemptive identification 00:40:25.330 --> 00:40:27.090 of any issues out on the line. 00:40:27.090 --> 00:40:29.810 So in our Weed California area, 00:40:29.810 --> 00:40:32.020 inside that substation there, 00:40:32.020 --> 00:40:33.860 we've actually just in the last couple of months 00:40:33.860 --> 00:40:36.050 installed the two of these relays 00:40:36.050 --> 00:40:38.370 that do that wave form analytics. 00:40:38.370 --> 00:40:39.910 We're able to look at that wave form 00:40:39.910 --> 00:40:43.640 and just based on what we can see there, 00:40:43.640 --> 00:40:46.830 it can identify different types of interference 00:40:46.830 --> 00:40:49.530 and different signatures of the wave form 00:40:49.530 --> 00:40:52.060 that can tell us to go look for things out on the line, 00:40:52.060 --> 00:40:54.215 even though it didn't create a fault yet, right? 00:40:54.215 --> 00:40:57.480 And so that allows us to be very proactive 00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:01.000 and not wait for the outage or the ignition event. 00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:02.800 And so I think that that is an exciting 00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:04.120 advancement in technology. 00:41:04.120 --> 00:41:05.530 And we do have those relays 00:41:05.530 --> 00:41:07.797 installed you weed substation area. 00:41:07.797 --> 00:41:10.914 And so we're looking to learn from that. 00:41:10.914 --> 00:41:11.790 Thank you. 00:41:11.790 --> 00:41:12.623 Right. 00:41:12.623 --> 00:41:14.390 I think I heard that it wasn't in the presentation, 00:41:14.390 --> 00:41:15.590 but I think I heard you say 00:41:15.590 --> 00:41:19.750 that you have hearted 60% of your goal this year. 00:41:19.750 --> 00:41:20.710 It just wanted to correct 00:41:20.710 --> 00:41:24.380 that that's for your goal this year, the 60% number? 00:41:24.380 --> 00:41:27.570 60% was referring to our vegetation management program 00:41:27.570 --> 00:41:31.893 is 60% yep through the annual trimming and inspection. 00:41:33.290 --> 00:41:35.410 And we're already here in August, 00:41:35.410 --> 00:41:38.800 as I mentioned at the beginning, you have red flag warnings. 00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:41.850 Do you feel like you're gonna be able to accomplish 00:41:41.850 --> 00:41:43.000 this year's goal 00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.943 despite the fact that we're into the peak fire season now? 00:41:47.040 --> 00:41:48.570 Yeah. Yep. 00:41:48.570 --> 00:41:50.810 We are forecasting to be on track 00:41:50.810 --> 00:41:53.160 and be able to accomplish our 2021 00:41:53.160 --> 00:41:54.920 vegetation management program. 00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:57.140 It was prioritized in such a fashion 00:41:57.140 --> 00:41:59.250 to make sure we accomplish 00:41:59.250 --> 00:42:02.440 like say our tier three vegetation management program 00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:04.630 before the tier two and before the non tier 00:42:05.580 --> 00:42:08.910 to make sure that if something was at risk, 00:42:08.910 --> 00:42:10.470 it would be outside of this 00:42:10.470 --> 00:42:14.240 already identified higher elevated fire weather areas. 00:42:14.240 --> 00:42:15.350 So. 00:42:15.350 --> 00:42:17.750 Great. Thanks for expanding on that. 00:42:17.750 --> 00:42:18.583 Yeah. 00:42:20.090 --> 00:42:21.540 All right. Next slide please. 00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:25.193 All right. 00:42:25.193 --> 00:42:27.140 And if some of those questions brought about 00:42:27.140 --> 00:42:30.290 let's talk about the community resource centers. 00:42:30.290 --> 00:42:31.810 So in the event that a public safety 00:42:31.810 --> 00:42:33.580 power shut off does occur 00:42:33.580 --> 00:42:35.840 specific or has identified locations 00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:37.330 where community resource centers 00:42:37.330 --> 00:42:41.150 or CRC will be opened in those areas. 00:42:41.150 --> 00:42:43.270 So you can see on that map there 00:42:43.270 --> 00:42:46.560 and visualize the tier three area that was showing earlier 00:42:46.560 --> 00:42:48.840 subdivided into those five zones. 00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:53.310 And then those stars are where we pre-identified locations, 00:42:53.310 --> 00:42:56.880 where we can open up a community resource center preferences 00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:01.200 to have a physical established facility 00:43:03.080 --> 00:43:04.580 that we can open up a CRC. 00:43:04.580 --> 00:43:05.920 So we've identified those 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:07.820 in collaboration with local communities 00:43:07.820 --> 00:43:10.110 on where would make the most sense 00:43:10.110 --> 00:43:12.010 and making sure that the distance 00:43:12.010 --> 00:43:15.258 between the customers being impacted and the CRC 00:43:15.258 --> 00:43:16.770 is 10 to 20 miles. 00:43:16.770 --> 00:43:19.680 To make sure they're not too far away from the customers 00:43:19.680 --> 00:43:21.133 that we're impacting. 00:43:23.580 --> 00:43:24.960 So you can see the services there 00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:27.673 that are provided at the community resource centers. 00:43:29.250 --> 00:43:33.190 And backup locations are identified as well. 00:43:33.190 --> 00:43:35.250 Our goal is to have both a primary and backup 00:43:35.250 --> 00:43:36.610 in each of these locations. 00:43:36.610 --> 00:43:40.300 But in the event that even beyond those locations, 00:43:40.300 --> 00:43:43.480 Pacific Corp does have contracts with vendors 00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:47.650 that we can deploy and establish a temporary CRC 00:43:47.650 --> 00:43:51.230 in any location, even if a fixed facility is not available 00:43:51.230 --> 00:43:52.580 for it for any reason. 00:43:52.580 --> 00:43:54.923 So we have that capability as well. 00:43:56.610 --> 00:43:58.970 And I should touch on that given the pandemic 00:43:58.970 --> 00:44:01.690 and COVID protocols can be adhered to as well 00:44:01.690 --> 00:44:03.310 as we open up the CRC. 00:44:03.310 --> 00:44:06.550 So that planning is in place to make sure that 00:44:06.550 --> 00:44:09.560 that would be conducted under current guidelines 00:44:09.560 --> 00:44:11.823 as well if a CRC was open. 00:44:17.090 --> 00:44:18.590 All right, next slide, please. 00:44:20.470 --> 00:44:21.880 Now let's touch on. 00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:23.437 I'm sorry. 00:44:23.437 --> 00:44:27.660 I was asked to ask about the CRC 00:44:27.660 --> 00:44:32.320 on any of the tribal lands in this area? 00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:33.990 I don't see that. 00:44:33.990 --> 00:44:38.890 Happy Camp is the closest to the tribal lands there. 00:44:38.890 --> 00:44:41.823 And I don't, maybe Justin can correct me. 00:44:42.863 --> 00:44:45.310 I don't, let's see it's at the croup wellness centers, 00:44:45.310 --> 00:44:46.820 the backup one and Happy Camp. 00:44:46.820 --> 00:44:50.840 Sorry, if you go back to two slides. 00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:51.673 Sorry. 00:44:57.220 --> 00:44:59.573 There we go, in that table. 00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:05.590 Let's see the CRC identified the in Happy Camp, 00:45:05.590 --> 00:45:09.430 the Karuk Wellness Center as backup area 00:45:09.430 --> 00:45:11.813 in Weed Karuk Wellness Center in Yreka. 00:45:12.900 --> 00:45:15.490 So it is in conjunction with the tribes 00:45:15.490 --> 00:45:17.470 trying to identify good locations as well. 00:45:17.470 --> 00:45:18.700 Yeah. Okay. 00:45:18.700 --> 00:45:21.530 I see that in the smaller and the CRC identified. 00:45:21.530 --> 00:45:22.363 Okay. 00:45:22.363 --> 00:45:23.220 Thank you. 00:45:23.220 --> 00:45:24.097 Yeah. 00:45:24.097 --> 00:45:25.173 I have a quick question. 00:45:26.200 --> 00:45:29.089 This is mark on these, on your experience. 00:45:29.089 --> 00:45:31.350 I know you you've done, I think one PSPS, 00:45:31.350 --> 00:45:36.350 but I mean, how have these CRCs operated? 00:45:36.540 --> 00:45:38.850 Have they been successful? 00:45:38.850 --> 00:45:40.050 Have you gotten feedback? 00:45:40.050 --> 00:45:44.547 What was the uptake at these centers utilized adequately 00:45:46.050 --> 00:45:48.100 do you have some sort of metrics on that? 00:45:49.515 --> 00:45:51.140 Thank you for that question, 00:45:51.140 --> 00:45:55.690 because we do not have experience with setting up a CRC. 00:45:55.690 --> 00:45:57.730 So this is all pre-planning. 00:45:57.730 --> 00:46:01.080 The one PSPS we had was a short duration, eight, 10 hours. 00:46:01.080 --> 00:46:03.970 And so just for in within the day, 00:46:03.970 --> 00:46:07.750 so a CRC was not established and there was already CRCs 00:46:07.750 --> 00:46:10.130 for other active fires that were available 00:46:10.130 --> 00:46:12.420 if somebody did actually need one. 00:46:12.420 --> 00:46:14.500 So Pacific Corp didn't need to set one up 00:46:14.500 --> 00:46:17.493 for the PSPS that we conducted last year. 00:46:19.300 --> 00:46:21.440 So we don't have those learnings. 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:24.740 So we would have to be collaboration with other utilities 00:46:24.740 --> 00:46:27.027 and others who have set these up to understand 00:46:27.027 --> 00:46:30.210 the planning for what it would look like for us. 00:46:30.210 --> 00:46:32.070 I appreciate that. 00:46:32.070 --> 00:46:35.368 I would maybe suggest that would be an area 00:46:35.368 --> 00:46:39.265 where you may wanna do a exercise to actually, 00:46:39.265 --> 00:46:42.130 maybe do a functional exercise of setting one up 00:46:42.130 --> 00:46:43.630 and running through it. 00:46:43.630 --> 00:46:46.533 And so that you know, 00:46:47.464 --> 00:46:50.233 one thing about planning and talking about it. 00:46:50.233 --> 00:46:53.159 Another thing about actually running it to the mill 00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:56.500 and then seeing where the gaps and seams are. 00:46:56.500 --> 00:47:00.230 So anyway, we'd be happy to certainly work with you 00:47:00.230 --> 00:47:04.060 on helping you with that exercise if you're interested. 00:47:04.060 --> 00:47:04.893 Thank you. 00:47:04.893 --> 00:47:06.526 Yes, that would be great. 00:47:06.526 --> 00:47:08.743 Allen, can I follow up on Mark's question? 00:47:09.770 --> 00:47:11.100 Did... 00:47:11.100 --> 00:47:16.100 Has Pacific Corp initiated PSPS in Oregon? 00:47:17.782 --> 00:47:21.983 In last year or year before, did you set up PSPS there? 00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.750 We have not conducted a PSPS in Oregon 00:47:25.750 --> 00:47:28.310 or any other service territory, California. 00:47:28.310 --> 00:47:29.496 Yeah. 00:47:29.496 --> 00:47:32.230 And the one was the only one we've done to date. 00:47:32.230 --> 00:47:36.450 I know some other utility did do it in Oregon. 00:47:36.450 --> 00:47:39.090 I was just curious if you'd had that experience. 00:47:39.090 --> 00:47:40.269 Thank you. 00:47:40.269 --> 00:47:41.433 Mm-hmm. 00:47:41.433 --> 00:47:45.010 And Allen, it's generally my question about 00:47:46.340 --> 00:47:49.500 in your pre-planning, do you anticipate that 00:47:49.500 --> 00:47:52.720 you might have accessing functional need customers 00:47:52.720 --> 00:47:54.920 or medical baseline customers, 00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:58.510 customers who don't have access to transportation 00:47:58.510 --> 00:48:03.387 and may need to help get to the resource center? 00:48:04.420 --> 00:48:05.253 Yeah. 00:48:05.253 --> 00:48:07.180 So why don't we transition to the next slide? 00:48:07.180 --> 00:48:08.013 Oh, sorry. 00:48:08.013 --> 00:48:08.846 You're on that slide. 00:48:08.846 --> 00:48:09.918 I'll move to the next slide. 00:48:09.918 --> 00:48:13.040 Because yes, 00:48:13.040 --> 00:48:17.318 we are looking to expand our program to address. 00:48:17.318 --> 00:48:20.680 It was identified as a gap at our last public meeting 00:48:20.680 --> 00:48:22.860 when we were looking at vulnerable customers, 00:48:22.860 --> 00:48:27.220 working with them, AFN, what we're doing for battery backup. 00:48:27.220 --> 00:48:29.390 And so we're looking to expand that program, 00:48:29.390 --> 00:48:34.040 learning from others and expanding our program as well. 00:48:34.040 --> 00:48:34.873 Looking for that, 00:48:34.873 --> 00:48:38.340 to include for this medical baseline customers 00:48:38.340 --> 00:48:42.890 and AFN transportation options as well to the CRC. 00:48:42.890 --> 00:48:46.452 So, yes, we are looking to expand that 00:48:46.452 --> 00:48:48.260 and be able to provide that offering 00:48:49.505 --> 00:48:52.665 in addition to these other areas where we looked. 00:48:52.665 --> 00:48:53.498 What is the timeframe for that? 00:48:53.498 --> 00:48:55.740 Sorry for interrupting, but what is your timeframe? 00:48:55.740 --> 00:48:59.440 If you're looking for that expansion and looking, 00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:04.143 it says all of this is due in 2021, and it's underdeveloped. 00:49:05.240 --> 00:49:08.170 The transportation and battery backup 00:49:08.170 --> 00:49:12.720 for our medical baseline customers in California. 00:49:12.720 --> 00:49:16.280 It's full speed ahead that we would want this 00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:20.240 in the next month before it would be needed, right? 00:49:20.240 --> 00:49:21.450 That's the timeline 00:49:21.450 --> 00:49:23.590 for what we're looking for those options. 00:49:23.590 --> 00:49:28.590 The larger battery or generator backup for all AFN customers 00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:35.110 or any customer in these areas and the rebate program. 00:49:35.110 --> 00:49:36.310 That's a longer-term effort 00:49:36.310 --> 00:49:39.850 realizing we can't turn that around in that same timeframe, 00:49:39.850 --> 00:49:43.270 but for that smaller subset of medical baseline customers 00:49:43.270 --> 00:49:45.500 and expanding our offerings to them, 00:49:45.500 --> 00:49:46.963 it's a quick turnaround. 00:49:48.810 --> 00:49:51.840 I just would say and I don't know if you had 00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:56.040 any of your company representatives listening in 00:49:56.040 --> 00:49:57.410 yesterday and the day before 00:49:57.410 --> 00:50:00.033 with the presentations on the larger IOUs, 00:50:01.022 --> 00:50:05.060 but they have quite a bit of experience in this area. 00:50:05.060 --> 00:50:10.060 And I would suggest that perhaps you all talk with them 00:50:11.798 --> 00:50:15.200 and do some learning from their experience 00:50:15.200 --> 00:50:18.980 in not only how they identify the customers 00:50:18.980 --> 00:50:23.980 who are in need of battery at how they deploy it 00:50:24.790 --> 00:50:29.790 and their information and education of the customers 00:50:30.080 --> 00:50:32.290 and how these are used. 00:50:32.290 --> 00:50:36.110 So I think it would be very appropriate 00:50:36.110 --> 00:50:40.587 for you to contact one of the other IOUs, perhaps PG&E 00:50:43.940 --> 00:50:48.230 they're deploying and have for the last couple of years. 00:50:48.230 --> 00:50:50.760 They not as much as we would like them to, 00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:53.410 but they're deploying thousands of batteries. 00:50:53.410 --> 00:50:54.526 Right. 00:50:54.526 --> 00:50:57.130 (indistinct cross talk) 00:50:57.130 --> 00:50:58.210 Yeah. Thank you for that. 00:50:58.210 --> 00:50:59.325 Yeah. 00:50:59.325 --> 00:51:00.158 We don't wanna create the wheel 00:51:00.158 --> 00:51:03.310 we wanna build off of other successes of their programs 00:51:03.310 --> 00:51:04.690 and model the same. 00:51:04.690 --> 00:51:06.270 So, absolutely. 00:51:06.270 --> 00:51:07.103 Yeah. 00:51:11.510 --> 00:51:12.343 All right. 00:51:12.343 --> 00:51:14.450 So that's the expansion in the community resilience 00:51:14.450 --> 00:51:17.737 and the battery backup generators 00:51:17.737 --> 00:51:20.860 for these moldable customers. 00:51:20.860 --> 00:51:23.510 I guess also noted on this slide is in the CRC 00:51:23.510 --> 00:51:28.470 is also providing the EDB charging capability as well. 00:51:28.470 --> 00:51:32.193 So making that available to customers in these areas. 00:51:35.570 --> 00:51:36.403 Okay. 00:51:36.403 --> 00:51:37.236 Next slide please. 00:51:41.460 --> 00:51:42.293 All right. 00:51:42.293 --> 00:51:43.700 So a large component of a successful 00:51:43.700 --> 00:51:46.340 wildfire mitigation plan is communicating 00:51:46.340 --> 00:51:49.340 and educating our customers on what they can expect from us 00:51:49.340 --> 00:51:50.610 and what they can do 00:51:50.610 --> 00:51:54.040 to be prepared themselves during these conditions. 00:51:54.040 --> 00:51:56.470 A customer survey was conducted last year 00:51:56.470 --> 00:51:59.190 to help inform our outreach 00:51:59.190 --> 00:52:03.100 and communication campaigns regarding wildfire safety. 00:52:03.100 --> 00:52:04.900 And so we'll look to continue 00:52:04.900 --> 00:52:08.350 for ways to enhance our messaging 00:52:08.350 --> 00:52:10.540 to these targeted vulnerable customers, 00:52:10.540 --> 00:52:13.930 and to provide them more information about what to expect 00:52:15.070 --> 00:52:17.520 and emphasis will be placed on communication 00:52:17.520 --> 00:52:20.630 and notification around PSPS events. 00:52:20.630 --> 00:52:22.580 Not just timely notifications, 00:52:22.580 --> 00:52:26.920 about ways to provide more context 00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:30.380 about the potential of moving from watch to PSPS event. 00:52:30.380 --> 00:52:33.880 That's a confusing transition of trying to educate customers 00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:36.950 that we're watching and the possibility of something, 00:52:36.950 --> 00:52:38.100 you know, four days out. 00:52:38.100 --> 00:52:40.817 And as that transitions to an event 00:52:40.817 --> 00:52:44.030 and an actual forecast of the de-energization, 00:52:44.030 --> 00:52:45.870 and how do we make that clear 00:52:45.870 --> 00:52:49.320 as was noted in some of the opening remarks, 00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:52.750 we have evolved our PSPS website 00:52:52.750 --> 00:52:55.360 where customers can go on there, type in their address, 00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:59.360 see if they're in one of these PSPS areas, see the status, 00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:01.670 the forecast of the next seven days. 00:53:01.670 --> 00:53:04.870 If we anticipate a watch or an events 00:53:04.870 --> 00:53:07.230 and whether or not it's impacting them. 00:53:07.230 --> 00:53:10.420 We're looking to provide even more information 00:53:10.420 --> 00:53:11.390 through this website 00:53:11.390 --> 00:53:14.360 as customers come to our website to gain information 00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:18.510 either how can they be designated, an AFN, 00:53:18.510 --> 00:53:22.310 a medical baseline, what can they do to be prepared? 00:53:22.310 --> 00:53:24.130 We're also evolving this website 00:53:24.130 --> 00:53:26.350 so that as we just talked 00:53:26.350 --> 00:53:29.600 about the hardening that's going on over the long-term, 00:53:29.600 --> 00:53:33.230 these boundaries of a PSPS are then dynamic. 00:53:33.230 --> 00:53:34.250 They're not static. 00:53:34.250 --> 00:53:35.640 Currently if you go to the web page, 00:53:35.640 --> 00:53:38.890 it's showing you the five kind of static areas 00:53:38.890 --> 00:53:41.150 that our planning has identified. 00:53:41.150 --> 00:53:43.420 We understand that these will now become dynamic 00:53:43.420 --> 00:53:45.420 and that we need to be able to move that boundary, 00:53:45.420 --> 00:53:47.660 to really show customers what we're anticipating 00:53:47.660 --> 00:53:51.810 the actual subset of those PSPS areas 00:53:51.810 --> 00:53:53.780 are what might be impacted. 00:53:53.780 --> 00:53:55.630 And so we're evolving that as well 00:53:55.630 --> 00:53:57.320 to make sure that we're really providing 00:53:57.320 --> 00:53:59.573 the latest information to our customers. 00:54:01.998 --> 00:54:03.623 All right, next slide, please. 00:54:05.190 --> 00:54:06.960 Allen, real quick question. 00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:09.950 In your territory there are some areas 00:54:09.950 --> 00:54:14.950 that have either very low broadband or no broadband at all. 00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:20.280 And so are you communicating, educating, out doing outreach 00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:24.903 to those folks who don't have access to the internet? 00:54:25.830 --> 00:54:27.360 You have a lot of rural areas 00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:31.280 that are probably in that category of lacking 00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:33.653 the kind of broadband services 00:54:33.653 --> 00:54:36.360 that hopefully we will some someday soon bring to them 00:54:38.430 --> 00:54:43.430 mailings and things, the old fashioned way, the US mail. 00:54:44.040 --> 00:54:44.873 Exactly. 00:54:44.873 --> 00:54:46.810 It's that multi-pronged approach. 00:54:46.810 --> 00:54:50.660 We don't rely on just one channel to reach our customers. 00:54:50.660 --> 00:54:55.660 So yes, there is the emails, there are the social media, 00:54:56.400 --> 00:55:00.940 but there are the build inserts and direct mailings to them 00:55:00.940 --> 00:55:02.910 to provide information as well. 00:55:02.910 --> 00:55:04.723 So, yep. It's on all fronts. 00:55:05.570 --> 00:55:06.500 Okay. 00:55:06.500 --> 00:55:07.660 Thank you. 00:55:07.660 --> 00:55:08.493 Yeah. 00:55:11.110 --> 00:55:12.240 Okay. 00:55:12.240 --> 00:55:13.200 And as we discussed, 00:55:13.200 --> 00:55:15.380 it's understood that public safety power shutoff 00:55:15.380 --> 00:55:16.824 is that tool of last resort 00:55:16.824 --> 00:55:19.270 because of its impact to customers 00:55:19.270 --> 00:55:22.610 and their safety and the impact of the communities. 00:55:22.610 --> 00:55:24.730 And we wanna make sure we understand that impact 00:55:24.730 --> 00:55:26.950 and identify our vulnerable customers 00:55:28.273 --> 00:55:31.270 as is it an AFN or medical baseline customer. 00:55:31.270 --> 00:55:35.240 And so some of what we've already talked about 00:55:35.240 --> 00:55:36.350 is like these mailings. 00:55:36.350 --> 00:55:39.340 And so even within the care program where we send out forms 00:55:39.340 --> 00:55:41.540 and direct mailings to our residential customers 00:55:41.540 --> 00:55:45.031 and even master metered accounts, 00:55:45.031 --> 00:55:47.590 so that we try to get beyond that master metered 00:55:47.590 --> 00:55:49.090 and into the individuals 00:55:49.090 --> 00:55:53.230 that live behind that meter information. 00:55:53.230 --> 00:55:55.880 So it's this direct mailing, how do they sign up? 00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:58.366 Where do they get more information 00:55:58.366 --> 00:56:01.340 about identifying in signing up as an AFN 00:56:01.340 --> 00:56:04.330 or medical baseline so that they can get into these programs 00:56:04.330 --> 00:56:06.300 so they can get these notifications 00:56:06.300 --> 00:56:07.530 so that we can reach out to them 00:56:07.530 --> 00:56:11.963 and talk about battery backup if they qualify for that. 00:56:13.326 --> 00:56:15.400 And so it's all these different outreaches. 00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:17.870 Shown in the lower right, is our medical baseline 00:56:17.870 --> 00:56:20.390 for a California service territory. 00:56:20.390 --> 00:56:24.560 You see about 126 and 28 of those 00:56:24.560 --> 00:56:27.210 are in those designated PSPS areas, 00:56:27.210 --> 00:56:29.550 just to give you a few of the numbers. 00:56:29.550 --> 00:56:31.920 And so this is a personal outreach 00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:34.730 to those 28 medical baseline customers. 00:56:34.730 --> 00:56:39.160 If whichever one of those 28 are in an impacted PSPS area 00:56:39.160 --> 00:56:41.930 to make sure that they are taken care of 00:56:43.306 --> 00:56:45.243 and that they are aware of any impacts. 00:56:46.591 --> 00:56:48.600 So Allen, do you have an estimate 00:56:48.600 --> 00:56:51.510 of how many AFN customers you have 00:56:51.510 --> 00:56:54.003 in your high wildfire zones? 00:56:58.426 --> 00:57:01.480 In California, it's this 126, 00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:04.780 maybe I didn't quite understand the question. 00:57:04.780 --> 00:57:09.780 Medical baseline, you've got 126 this year, 00:57:10.140 --> 00:57:13.120 but how about when your access and social needs, 00:57:13.120 --> 00:57:18.120 and that includes low-income seniors, non-English speakers. 00:57:23.466 --> 00:57:25.523 Do you have an estimate of it? 00:57:26.490 --> 00:57:28.100 We have the number. 00:57:28.100 --> 00:57:32.420 I do not have it in front of me, so I apologize for that, 00:57:32.420 --> 00:57:35.860 but it is tracked and we have the number. 00:57:35.860 --> 00:57:39.230 And so maybe I'll ask Melissa to chime in 00:57:39.230 --> 00:57:42.070 if she happens to know that number off hand, 00:57:42.070 --> 00:57:44.960 but I apologize, I don't have it in front of me. 00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:46.196 Okay. 00:57:46.196 --> 00:57:47.806 Allen, this is Melissa. 00:57:47.806 --> 00:57:50.106 If you want me to, just to pipe in real quick, 00:57:51.270 --> 00:57:55.060 we do have about 50 customers 00:57:55.060 --> 00:57:58.860 that are self identified as AFN 00:57:58.860 --> 00:58:03.103 in our tier three high fire risk districts. 00:58:05.980 --> 00:58:07.030 Thank you, Melissa. 00:58:08.250 --> 00:58:09.350 Thank you. 00:58:12.690 --> 00:58:14.083 Okay, next slide please. 00:58:18.560 --> 00:58:22.563 So in addition to establishing the vulnerable customers 00:58:25.267 --> 00:58:26.430 and our outreach to them, 00:58:26.430 --> 00:58:29.270 it's also a coordination with other external agencies 00:58:29.270 --> 00:58:30.900 and specifically has expanded 00:58:30.900 --> 00:58:33.140 the emergency management department 00:58:33.140 --> 00:58:35.810 to increase our collaboration coordination 00:58:35.810 --> 00:58:38.730 with these external agencies and communities 00:58:38.730 --> 00:58:41.630 that are shown here on the slide. 00:58:41.630 --> 00:58:44.460 And so in the upper left, we talked about this already, 00:58:44.460 --> 00:58:47.250 but the identification of critical infrastructure, 00:58:47.250 --> 00:58:49.280 communication providers and communication 00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:52.410 is saying critical infrastructure for the community, 00:58:52.410 --> 00:58:56.030 especially during an emergency response event. 00:58:56.030 --> 00:58:59.760 And so this is us working with the communication providers 00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:01.810 to understand their backup capabilities, 00:59:01.810 --> 00:59:05.730 to understand their locations and within these PSPS 00:59:05.730 --> 00:59:09.771 or possible PSPS de-energized areas 00:59:09.771 --> 00:59:13.740 so that we can coordinate that in the middle there 00:59:13.740 --> 00:59:15.960 and was talking about at the last public meeting 00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:17.560 is our collaboration with the tribes 00:59:17.560 --> 00:59:19.240 and wanting to increase that. 00:59:19.240 --> 00:59:21.230 And so now holding twice monthly 00:59:22.226 --> 00:59:24.526 and making sure that we have good coordination 00:59:26.411 --> 00:59:28.426 and communication about what the plans are 00:59:28.426 --> 00:59:29.510 and what their needs might be, 00:59:29.510 --> 00:59:33.500 and letting them know our long-term plans system hardening 00:59:33.500 --> 00:59:38.500 in those areas and PSPS, the CRC availability as well. 00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:42.660 So we've increased that outreach and coordination. 00:59:42.660 --> 00:59:44.060 And then in the upper right, 00:59:44.900 --> 00:59:47.490 are kind of ongoing engagement 00:59:47.490 --> 00:59:49.140 with other public safety partners 00:59:49.140 --> 00:59:52.110 and being the tabletop exercises and these counties, 00:59:52.110 --> 00:59:54.400 which were completed in May. 00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:56.720 Just to make sure we're all on the same page 00:59:56.720 --> 01:00:01.130 about what the process is, what is the decision-making, 01:00:01.130 --> 01:00:03.720 what's the outreach, what's the notification, 01:00:03.720 --> 01:00:05.633 and where are the areas of concern. 01:00:07.600 --> 01:00:09.710 Now, it's important that this coordination 01:00:09.710 --> 01:00:12.770 with external agencies that create the feedback loop, right? 01:00:12.770 --> 01:00:15.370 That informs the planning and preparedness 01:00:15.370 --> 01:00:18.190 and where we can improve in Pacific or is open to that. 01:00:18.190 --> 01:00:20.470 We're a continuous improvement organization. 01:00:20.470 --> 01:00:22.010 We want that feedback. 01:00:22.010 --> 01:00:23.990 And so shown at the bottom half of this slide 01:00:23.990 --> 01:00:27.000 is what we have noted so far about what's going well 01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:30.287 and areas that we wanna watch and are seeking to improve. 01:00:30.287 --> 01:00:32.180 And it's things we've touched on already, 01:00:32.180 --> 01:00:36.320 whether it's our communication with customers 01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:41.320 that might not have the same capabilities as others, 01:00:42.370 --> 01:00:44.340 as far as how to receive information, 01:00:44.340 --> 01:00:46.700 whether it's backup generation, 01:00:46.700 --> 01:00:49.040 these are areas we know we need to continue to push on 01:00:49.040 --> 01:00:52.380 and continue to challenge and find ways to expand 01:00:52.380 --> 01:00:55.090 and improve our offerings, our communication, 01:00:55.090 --> 01:00:56.173 our coordination. 01:00:57.540 --> 01:01:01.000 But as noted in even in some of the opening remarks, 01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:02.930 we have made progress, 01:01:02.930 --> 01:01:05.820 we have opened and improved our communication 01:01:05.820 --> 01:01:08.020 and partnership and things have gone well. 01:01:08.020 --> 01:01:09.740 And wherever we've received, 01:01:09.740 --> 01:01:12.150 feedback that we need to make a change. 01:01:12.150 --> 01:01:14.553 We look to address that quickly. 01:01:16.786 --> 01:01:19.806 Oh, and I would encourage you 01:01:19.806 --> 01:01:23.420 to follow what director Ghilarducci suggested and having, 01:01:23.420 --> 01:01:26.640 I know you have had the two tabletop exercises, 01:01:26.640 --> 01:01:30.650 but I think some actual functional exercise 01:01:30.650 --> 01:01:33.470 would really benefit you and your customers, 01:01:33.470 --> 01:01:36.600 particularly as he and others have noted 01:01:36.600 --> 01:01:40.740 that the CRCs are not easily set up and easily run. 01:01:40.740 --> 01:01:42.890 And they're critical to the community 01:01:42.890 --> 01:01:45.450 when you do have a PSPS. 01:01:47.660 --> 01:01:49.520 Yeah. That is great feedback. 01:01:49.520 --> 01:01:52.163 And a great idea. So thank you. 01:01:53.429 --> 01:01:54.910 Allen, is mark again, 01:01:54.910 --> 01:01:58.950 just on these external agency coordination engagement, 01:01:58.950 --> 01:02:02.853 how have you found the external partners? 01:02:04.070 --> 01:02:05.810 Have they engaged with you on these? 01:02:05.810 --> 01:02:09.390 Do you have good participation from public safety, 01:02:09.390 --> 01:02:12.193 from non-governmental organizations, 01:02:13.080 --> 01:02:15.980 faith-based organizations, tribal community, 01:02:15.980 --> 01:02:17.900 is everybody coming to the table for these 01:02:17.900 --> 01:02:22.570 and how has that whole collaboration going? 01:02:22.570 --> 01:02:23.403 Yeah. 01:02:23.403 --> 01:02:24.236 Thank you for that question. 01:02:24.236 --> 01:02:27.130 I'm gonna ask Justin, our director of emergency management 01:02:27.130 --> 01:02:28.290 is probably a better place 01:02:28.290 --> 01:02:31.500 to provide better color around that and that response. 01:02:31.500 --> 01:02:34.220 So Justin, can you respond to that? 01:02:34.220 --> 01:02:35.700 Yep. Thanks Allen. 01:02:35.700 --> 01:02:36.680 And thanks for the question. 01:02:36.680 --> 01:02:40.700 I would say in short that it's been really successful 01:02:40.700 --> 01:02:44.030 and just to reference the two table top exercises 01:02:44.030 --> 01:02:46.780 on May 25th, we held one in Siskiyou County 01:02:46.780 --> 01:02:48.640 and on the 27th in Del Norte, 01:02:48.640 --> 01:02:51.639 and we had really good tribal representation 01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:53.950 or state breaths from Cal Fire 01:02:53.950 --> 01:02:58.950 and our VOT partners in local emergency management. 01:03:00.340 --> 01:03:04.830 So everyone's rallying around the PSPS discussion 01:03:04.830 --> 01:03:09.360 and we are getting really, really good, good feedback. 01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:11.680 And I will say just on the comment 01:03:11.680 --> 01:03:14.720 around setting up kind of a functional exercise 01:03:14.720 --> 01:03:16.480 is something we're planning on doing next year. 01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:19.960 We actually did set up a TRC 01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:23.950 as part of a joint three county tabletop in Southern Oregon, 01:03:23.950 --> 01:03:26.080 just a couple of months ago when it was very successful. 01:03:26.080 --> 01:03:27.890 We came back a lot of feedback 01:03:27.890 --> 01:03:29.370 and we're looking to do the same thing 01:03:29.370 --> 01:03:32.601 kind of in concert with our new emergency management staff 01:03:32.601 --> 01:03:35.253 coming on board in our California service territory as well. 01:03:39.080 --> 01:03:40.360 Thank you, Justin. 01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:42.360 Yeah. Thanks for the feedback on that. 01:03:43.771 --> 01:03:46.080 You know, there's a saying in the businesses, 01:03:46.080 --> 01:03:48.980 you know, disasters happen while you're planning. 01:03:48.980 --> 01:03:53.980 So I'm just thinking that a few of these things 01:03:54.500 --> 01:03:59.500 that are directly related to impacts to the community 01:03:59.900 --> 01:04:02.500 while you guys are working your tails off 01:04:02.500 --> 01:04:05.720 on addressing infrastructure improvements 01:04:05.720 --> 01:04:08.420 and building your protocol out, 01:04:08.420 --> 01:04:10.640 ultimately we, and I know you don't, 01:04:10.640 --> 01:04:14.240 but we cannot forget the end impact. 01:04:14.240 --> 01:04:15.710 And that is the customers, 01:04:15.710 --> 01:04:18.010 the people who live in the community particularly 01:04:18.010 --> 01:04:21.699 people who need extra help. 01:04:21.699 --> 01:04:26.699 I would maybe suggest, and again, happy to help you. 01:04:26.784 --> 01:04:29.770 If you're gonna do a tabletop 01:04:29.770 --> 01:04:32.563 or a functional exercise of a CRC next year, 01:04:34.490 --> 01:04:37.740 maybe that's whatever six months away, 01:04:37.740 --> 01:04:39.490 we're gonna go through this season, 01:04:40.970 --> 01:04:45.970 even maybe going through a tabletop discussion exercise 01:04:46.490 --> 01:04:48.330 sometime in the next few weeks 01:04:48.330 --> 01:04:50.093 would be beneficial for you all. 01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:53.780 Which we again, would be happy to sit if you want, 01:04:53.780 --> 01:04:58.780 just so that there's a little clarity on where, when, how, 01:04:59.130 --> 01:05:00.500 or that CRC or be set up. 01:05:00.500 --> 01:05:03.570 And then maybe you can articulate that out to the community 01:05:03.570 --> 01:05:04.890 in a broader way. 01:05:04.890 --> 01:05:08.840 So just a thought on that, 'cause just this week, 01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:10.150 as you know fire weather 01:05:10.150 --> 01:05:12.440 is you're going to write flight condition. 01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:15.360 Currently, you're gonna have winds 01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:18.190 up through the end of the week. 01:05:18.190 --> 01:05:22.900 And my guess is that it's in between now and January one, 01:05:22.900 --> 01:05:27.210 we're gonna have a number of potential PSPS events 01:05:27.210 --> 01:05:28.990 taking place in Northern California. 01:05:28.990 --> 01:05:31.470 So, and with the drought conditions the way they are 01:05:31.470 --> 01:05:34.993 and the way these fires are spreading and moving so rapidly, 01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:37.830 we wanna just be on top of that. 01:05:37.830 --> 01:05:39.500 So anyway, just a thought on that. 01:05:39.500 --> 01:05:41.653 And again, happy to help you get there. 01:05:42.870 --> 01:05:44.490 Appreciate that offer. 01:05:44.490 --> 01:05:45.323 Thank you. 01:05:46.700 --> 01:05:48.404 Allen, this is Caroline. 01:05:48.404 --> 01:05:49.530 Oh, excuse me. 01:05:49.530 --> 01:05:50.840 I think we're gonna need to wrap up 01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:53.040 where I've not been a very good timekeeper today. 01:05:53.040 --> 01:05:55.596 We're about 15 minutes over time. 01:05:55.596 --> 01:05:57.923 So please Caroline, go ahead. 01:05:57.923 --> 01:05:59.800 Just quick question. 01:05:59.800 --> 01:06:01.945 Can you just in 60 seconds, 01:06:01.945 --> 01:06:05.640 talk to any individualized notifications 01:06:05.640 --> 01:06:07.760 to communication companies. 01:06:07.760 --> 01:06:11.110 One of the sort of lessons learned over the last few years 01:06:11.110 --> 01:06:13.450 has been that their notification needs 01:06:13.450 --> 01:06:14.690 are slightly different 01:06:14.690 --> 01:06:17.670 than a typical customer's notification reads 01:06:17.670 --> 01:06:20.253 needs due to having multiple sites. 01:06:21.120 --> 01:06:23.990 So can you speak to how you guys have, 01:06:23.990 --> 01:06:26.610 or are planning on tailoring notification to them? 01:06:26.610 --> 01:06:29.923 So they get a consolidated and concise notification. 01:06:30.980 --> 01:06:31.813 Yeah. 01:06:31.813 --> 01:06:32.646 Thank you for that question. 01:06:32.646 --> 01:06:35.040 And it was, I think, remarked on earlier, 01:06:35.040 --> 01:06:37.200 it's about the GIS sharing information. 01:06:37.200 --> 01:06:40.870 So when it comes down to notifying a communication provider 01:06:40.870 --> 01:06:43.730 it's about providing GIS information 01:06:43.730 --> 01:06:47.870 so that they can truly understand and quickly understand 01:06:47.870 --> 01:06:50.510 how we're sharing that information in a standard format, 01:06:50.510 --> 01:06:52.827 that they can take that in and know their impacts. 01:06:52.827 --> 01:06:56.090 And so it's about doing that pre-planning and explaining, 01:06:56.090 --> 01:06:57.920 and being able to provide to them at a time, 01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:00.470 this is what you'll get from us, does that work? 01:07:00.470 --> 01:07:03.913 So an ATMT is the, our lesson learned on that. 01:07:07.680 --> 01:07:08.990 Great. Thank you. 01:07:08.990 --> 01:07:09.823 Mm-hmm. 01:07:12.027 --> 01:07:12.860 All right. 01:07:12.860 --> 01:07:16.333 And if we move to the next slide, which is the last slide, 01:07:18.299 --> 01:07:20.920 so thank you for the time check. 01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:24.330 And so in closing, thank you again for the opportunity. 01:07:24.330 --> 01:07:26.300 Pacific Corp, obviously we'll continue 01:07:26.300 --> 01:07:30.007 to evolve our processes relating to preparing ourselves 01:07:30.007 --> 01:07:32.630 and the community for PSPS events. 01:07:32.630 --> 01:07:35.300 Our areas of focus, as we walked through that 01:07:35.300 --> 01:07:38.520 do include identifying our vulnerable populations, 01:07:38.520 --> 01:07:39.797 expanding our programs, 01:07:39.797 --> 01:07:42.920 the medical baseline, and AFN customers. 01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:47.902 We recognize we have an opportunity to expand 01:07:47.902 --> 01:07:50.830 and evolve our current offerings. 01:07:50.830 --> 01:07:52.426 So we'll be looking to do that, 01:07:52.426 --> 01:07:55.590 continue to push in our improved communications 01:07:55.590 --> 01:07:58.800 and how we're providing information through our web pages. 01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:02.030 And as we build a better situational awareness internally 01:08:02.030 --> 01:08:04.030 with our weather forecasting, 01:08:04.030 --> 01:08:06.260 being able to pass that straight through to our customers 01:08:06.260 --> 01:08:07.910 through our website so that they can see 01:08:07.910 --> 01:08:11.618 that weather forecasting capability as well. 01:08:11.618 --> 01:08:15.260 This conversation about the continued collaboration, 01:08:15.260 --> 01:08:16.700 our tabletop exercises, 01:08:16.700 --> 01:08:19.100 and actually doing functional tests of that. 01:08:19.100 --> 01:08:21.310 And can we set these CRCs up 01:08:21.310 --> 01:08:23.360 and moving beyond just planning for them, 01:08:23.360 --> 01:08:25.760 but actually exercising some of them 01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:28.524 absolutely is an area that we'll push on. 01:08:28.524 --> 01:08:32.490 And just that ongoing collaboration from that last slide 01:08:32.490 --> 01:08:34.760 with all these various agencies and communities 01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:37.986 and critical infrastructure, like communication 01:08:37.986 --> 01:08:40.950 will be an area of focus as well. 01:08:40.950 --> 01:08:43.210 So with that, that ends the presentation. 01:08:43.210 --> 01:08:45.400 And we had a lot of good questions throughout, 01:08:45.400 --> 01:08:49.070 but happy to field any additional questions at this time. 01:08:49.070 --> 01:08:51.682 Okay. Thank you very much for you 01:08:51.682 --> 01:08:55.640 and your fellow colleagues for the presentation. 01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:57.950 Are there any remaining questions 01:08:57.950 --> 01:09:02.950 before we move on to the next presentation by Liberty? 01:09:03.220 --> 01:09:05.350 Yeah. I just have one question President Batjer. 01:09:05.350 --> 01:09:06.390 Oh, sorry Commissioner. 01:09:06.390 --> 01:09:07.744 Yeah, no, go ahead. 01:09:07.744 --> 01:09:08.577 Go ahead. 01:09:08.577 --> 01:09:10.200 Its one real quick question. 01:09:10.200 --> 01:09:13.258 Allen, while reviewing your wildfire mitigation plan 01:09:13.258 --> 01:09:15.380 it looks like the company was only able 01:09:15.380 --> 01:09:19.700 to deploy two out of the 11 weather stations 01:09:19.700 --> 01:09:21.341 that you had planned for last year. 01:09:21.341 --> 01:09:22.890 Curious what you've done 01:09:22.890 --> 01:09:24.890 to get caught up in your weather stations 01:09:24.890 --> 01:09:27.430 and what you're doing differently this year 01:09:27.430 --> 01:09:29.230 to make sure that you stay on track. 01:09:30.298 --> 01:09:31.510 Thank you for that question. 01:09:31.510 --> 01:09:33.700 'Cause yeah, we are to 20 weather stations 01:09:33.700 --> 01:09:37.938 have been installed and 41 across 01:09:37.938 --> 01:09:40.580 our Pacific Corp service territory. 01:09:40.580 --> 01:09:43.780 And we have ordered like an additional 100, 01:09:43.780 --> 01:09:46.600 just to give you a sense of the context of the magnitude 01:09:46.600 --> 01:09:48.590 of what we're looking to have installed 01:09:48.590 --> 01:09:50.110 across our service territory 01:09:50.110 --> 01:09:52.540 before going into the next wildfire season. 01:09:52.540 --> 01:09:55.990 So yes, we're on track and implemented 01:09:55.990 --> 01:09:58.520 what we wanted for before this fire season, 01:09:58.520 --> 01:10:00.870 but looking to push that even further 01:10:00.870 --> 01:10:04.403 and more than doubling our our station count. 01:10:05.350 --> 01:10:06.300 Great. Thank you. 01:10:09.742 --> 01:10:13.650 Last question, I guess, to accommodate, you know, 01:10:13.650 --> 01:10:16.780 yesterday we heard confusion, he added-- 01:10:16.780 --> 01:10:18.380 Commissioner Shiroma, could you speak 01:10:18.380 --> 01:10:20.190 a little bit more direct I'm having... 01:10:20.190 --> 01:10:22.390 You're kind of fading in and out for me. 01:10:22.390 --> 01:10:24.700 Sorry, I'll get closer to the (mumbles). 01:10:24.700 --> 01:10:26.740 You know, there's been a number of fires 01:10:26.740 --> 01:10:28.273 up in newer territory. 01:10:30.010 --> 01:10:33.223 I think there are some current fires now. 01:10:34.929 --> 01:10:37.120 And so I think we're all feeling 01:10:37.120 --> 01:10:39.130 a really strong sense of urgency. 01:10:39.130 --> 01:10:40.543 I imagine you are too. 01:10:42.366 --> 01:10:46.510 Are any of these fires affecting your infrastructure, 01:10:46.510 --> 01:10:50.357 your system up in Northern (indistinct). 01:10:52.240 --> 01:10:53.073 Right. 01:10:53.073 --> 01:10:54.730 And Justin might be able to jump in 01:10:54.730 --> 01:10:57.474 and provide a more detailed quick. 01:10:57.474 --> 01:10:58.810 Currently yeah, no, 01:10:58.810 --> 01:11:00.900 well actually I'll just throw it to you Justin, 01:11:00.900 --> 01:11:02.670 'cause I don't wanna misspeak. 01:11:02.670 --> 01:11:04.680 So no problem, man. 01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:05.513 Yeah. 01:11:05.513 --> 01:11:07.300 Most recently the boot lake fire in Southern Oregon 01:11:07.300 --> 01:11:10.050 was the most impactful of our assets. 01:11:10.050 --> 01:11:11.840 And currently we're keeping a close eye 01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:15.510 on some of in Southern Oregon the animal fire specifically, 01:11:15.510 --> 01:11:16.480 and some of the grills. 01:11:16.480 --> 01:11:18.610 So we do have a lot of smaller ones right now, 01:11:18.610 --> 01:11:20.100 but we all know how quickly they can grow, 01:11:20.100 --> 01:11:21.180 especially with some of the winds. 01:11:21.180 --> 01:11:24.783 So we're very busy on the operational front right now. 01:11:26.990 --> 01:11:28.420 Yeah. Okay. 01:11:28.420 --> 01:11:29.330 All right. 01:11:29.330 --> 01:11:31.060 I just wanted to acknowledge that. 01:11:31.060 --> 01:11:32.510 Thank you. 01:11:32.510 --> 01:11:34.260 Thank you. 01:11:34.260 --> 01:11:35.093 There... 01:11:35.093 --> 01:11:35.926 Thank you. 01:11:35.926 --> 01:11:39.373 Are there any other questions of Mr. Berreth? 01:11:41.410 --> 01:11:42.730 Okay. 01:11:42.730 --> 01:11:46.460 Thank you very much for the presentation from Pacific Corp. 01:11:46.460 --> 01:11:48.550 And I think there are quite a few follow-ups 01:11:48.550 --> 01:11:53.040 that we have all enumerated today. 01:11:53.040 --> 01:11:56.472 And so we look forward to those follow-ups 01:11:56.472 --> 01:11:57.305 from you and your company. 01:11:57.305 --> 01:11:58.653 So thank you very much. 01:12:00.070 --> 01:12:05.070 And we will now turn to the presentation from Liberty 01:12:05.533 --> 01:12:07.810 to Mr. Chris Alario, 01:12:07.810 --> 01:12:12.350 who is the president of Liberty Utilities. 01:12:12.350 --> 01:12:16.610 And I do apologize sir for being, keeping you waiting 01:12:16.610 --> 01:12:18.830 and being a little late, but we, as you could tell, 01:12:18.830 --> 01:12:23.200 we had quite a few questions to ask at Pacific Corp, 01:12:23.200 --> 01:12:26.410 and that will probably be the same for you. 01:12:26.410 --> 01:12:30.150 So please don't take it as a rude interruption 01:12:30.150 --> 01:12:33.670 when the virtual dais asks you questions 01:12:33.670 --> 01:12:35.452 during your presentation, 01:12:35.452 --> 01:12:37.330 but that's seems a better way for us to roll. 01:12:37.330 --> 01:12:41.610 So with that, please, I turn to you now 01:12:41.610 --> 01:12:44.110 for your presentation from Liberty. 01:12:44.110 --> 01:12:44.943 Okay. 01:12:44.943 --> 01:12:48.002 I'll just check and test to make sure everyone can hear me. 01:12:48.002 --> 01:12:50.980 Yes we can hear you fine. 01:12:50.980 --> 01:12:53.380 Good morning President Batjer, Commissioners 01:12:53.380 --> 01:12:55.330 and other state agency representatives. 01:12:56.426 --> 01:12:57.990 My name is Chris Alario, 01:12:57.990 --> 01:12:59.630 and I'm president of Liberty Utilities, 01:12:59.630 --> 01:13:01.750 California Operations. 01:13:01.750 --> 01:13:04.490 Joining me today are Travis Johnson, 01:13:04.490 --> 01:13:06.860 our vice president of our Tahoe operations 01:13:06.860 --> 01:13:10.810 and Elliot Jones, our senior manager of wildfire prevention. 01:13:10.810 --> 01:13:13.220 I would like to just comment real briefly here 01:13:13.220 --> 01:13:14.380 that sitting in 01:13:14.380 --> 01:13:16.680 and listening to the Pacific Corp presentation 01:13:17.800 --> 01:13:19.110 was tremendous for us. 01:13:19.110 --> 01:13:22.660 The learning, just the questions that are being asked 01:13:22.660 --> 01:13:25.480 and the presentation it's really helpful for us 01:13:25.480 --> 01:13:28.516 because this is really new terrain for all of us. 01:13:28.516 --> 01:13:30.800 And the more that we can see 01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:32.380 what our peer companies are doing 01:13:32.380 --> 01:13:34.110 and understanding what they're doing, 01:13:34.110 --> 01:13:36.130 there's a lot of opportunity for shared knowledge 01:13:36.130 --> 01:13:37.060 and shared learning here. 01:13:37.060 --> 01:13:40.480 So this is a great opportunity for us. 01:13:40.480 --> 01:13:42.700 We really appreciate the opportunity 01:13:42.700 --> 01:13:44.680 to be part of this public meeting. 01:13:44.680 --> 01:13:47.900 And I'd also like to note that Mr. Ghilarducci, 01:13:47.900 --> 01:13:50.070 offer to meet with the smaller IOUs 01:13:50.070 --> 01:13:52.036 to help us improve our customer, 01:13:52.036 --> 01:13:55.810 our PSPS preparation mitigation of customer impacts. 01:13:55.810 --> 01:13:57.470 We'll be reaching out to you, sir. 01:13:57.470 --> 01:14:00.150 And we want to set something up 01:14:00.150 --> 01:14:04.470 and take you up on your offer in the near term. 01:14:04.470 --> 01:14:08.211 So really appreciate that offer. 01:14:08.211 --> 01:14:10.543 Can you please advance to the next slide? 01:14:13.050 --> 01:14:15.190 So I thought I'd start by giving you a quick overview 01:14:15.190 --> 01:14:17.333 of our operations. 01:14:17.333 --> 01:14:20.930 So Liberty serves approximately 49,000 customers 01:14:20.930 --> 01:14:23.900 in the greater Lake Tahoe Basin area. 01:14:23.900 --> 01:14:26.600 One unique feature of our Lake Tahoe utility 01:14:26.600 --> 01:14:29.710 is that it is connected to the Nevada balancing authority, 01:14:29.710 --> 01:14:31.290 not Cal ISO. 01:14:31.290 --> 01:14:34.223 And we purchased power directly from NV energy. 01:14:35.150 --> 01:14:39.480 We also own and operate two solar farms located in Nevada 01:14:39.480 --> 01:14:43.050 that generate supply 60 megawatts of renewable energy 01:14:43.050 --> 01:14:47.871 to our customers via NV energy's transmission system. 01:14:47.871 --> 01:14:52.090 Our local operations comprise 125 employees. 01:14:52.090 --> 01:14:54.610 We have increased our staffing by 25% 01:14:54.610 --> 01:14:56.130 over the last two years, 01:14:56.130 --> 01:15:00.020 adding 25 new positions to underpin our base operations 01:15:00.020 --> 01:15:01.560 and lead an execute our wildfire 01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:03.823 mitigation programs and activities. 01:15:05.126 --> 01:15:07.000 As you can see by the map, 01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:09.950 our service territory is quite expansive 01:15:09.950 --> 01:15:13.450 while most of our customers live in the Tahoe Basin area 01:15:13.450 --> 01:15:15.784 our serious territory does stretch north 01:15:15.784 --> 01:15:18.253 as far north to the Town of Portola. 01:15:22.002 --> 01:15:23.290 And as far south 01:15:24.463 --> 01:15:28.423 to the communities of Markleeville, Coleville/Walker. 01:15:30.180 --> 01:15:33.630 One another unique feature of our service territory is, 01:15:33.630 --> 01:15:38.340 is that we do have a high percentage of high fire risk areas 01:15:38.340 --> 01:15:42.551 with over 90% of Liberty's 1,400 miles of overhead lines 01:15:42.551 --> 01:15:46.483 located in high wildfire threat districts. 01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:50.490 Climate change and ongoing drought exasperates 01:15:50.490 --> 01:15:53.120 the welfare challenges we face in Lake Tahoe. 01:15:53.120 --> 01:15:55.630 And if the drought continues into 2022 01:15:55.630 --> 01:15:56.660 and the trends continue 01:15:56.660 --> 01:15:59.060 for earlier and longer wildfire seasons, 01:15:59.060 --> 01:16:01.130 the surrounding forest and the Lake Tahoe area 01:16:01.130 --> 01:16:03.180 will be more stressed and prone 01:16:03.180 --> 01:16:05.543 for exceptional wildfire conditions and risk. 01:16:06.470 --> 01:16:08.450 As you can expect, what is shaping up 01:16:08.450 --> 01:16:10.510 to be one of the most and what is shaping up 01:16:10.510 --> 01:16:13.500 to be one of the most severe wildfire seasons on record? 01:16:13.500 --> 01:16:16.350 Our top priority is keeping customers safe, 01:16:16.350 --> 01:16:18.000 minimizing customer impacts 01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:21.550 and connecting and supporting AFN populations. 01:16:21.550 --> 01:16:23.530 We are doing everything possible to prepare 01:16:23.530 --> 01:16:26.020 and be ready to respond to emergency situations 01:16:26.020 --> 01:16:27.530 safely and timely. 01:16:27.530 --> 01:16:30.550 As I mentioned, we've been increasing our staffing. 01:16:30.550 --> 01:16:33.460 We've also been focused on improving resource planning, 01:16:33.460 --> 01:16:35.163 logistics, and execution. 01:16:36.184 --> 01:16:39.490 I think we've made tremendous progress as you'll see in a, 01:16:39.490 --> 01:16:41.840 in a slide later on and improving customer 01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:43.357 and external communications. 01:16:43.357 --> 01:16:45.580 And that includes both the timing, accuracy, 01:16:45.580 --> 01:16:46.750 and effectiveness. 01:16:46.750 --> 01:16:49.380 And then one thing I really pride our company on 01:16:49.380 --> 01:16:50.800 and our staff. 01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:53.610 I think we've gotten better too at being more transparent 01:16:53.610 --> 01:16:55.000 with our customers, 01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:57.450 with our communities and with our partners. 01:16:57.450 --> 01:16:58.650 And this is really critical 01:16:58.650 --> 01:17:01.650 because these wildfire situations, 01:17:01.650 --> 01:17:06.350 we serve a number of very small, tight knit communities 01:17:06.350 --> 01:17:08.820 and our ability to be transparent 01:17:08.820 --> 01:17:12.530 and communicate real effective information to them 01:17:12.530 --> 01:17:15.300 helps lower their anxiety and gives them the confidence 01:17:15.300 --> 01:17:18.562 that their utility provider is doing everything they can 01:17:18.562 --> 01:17:22.093 to keep them safe and try to avoid PSPS. 01:17:23.890 --> 01:17:25.650 As previously noted, 01:17:25.650 --> 01:17:27.680 we have been fortunate so far in being able 01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:32.100 to avoid having to execute a PSPS over the last three years, 01:17:32.100 --> 01:17:34.960 but we wanna make clear that we see it 01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:37.240 just like the Commission does that. 01:17:37.240 --> 01:17:38.600 And we view it. 01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:42.430 We view PSPS as an option of (indistinct). 01:17:42.430 --> 01:17:46.110 And as Travis we'll discuss later on in the presentation, 01:17:46.110 --> 01:17:49.430 we are making good progress in hardening our system assets 01:17:49.430 --> 01:17:52.700 to mitigate wildfire risk so that we can continue to avoid 01:17:52.700 --> 01:17:56.740 or at a minimum, minimize the use of PSPS 01:17:56.740 --> 01:17:59.330 and minimize the impacts on our customer during the wild 01:17:59.330 --> 01:18:01.180 customers during the wildfire season. 01:18:02.380 --> 01:18:05.900 We have learned a lot over the last three years, 01:18:05.900 --> 01:18:07.150 and we continue to learn 01:18:08.120 --> 01:18:11.400 both from these type of public meetings, 01:18:11.400 --> 01:18:14.150 but also in working with our peer companies. 01:18:14.150 --> 01:18:15.810 And as Elliott we'll discuss later, 01:18:15.810 --> 01:18:17.980 we are applying those lessons, those learnings 01:18:17.980 --> 01:18:20.810 to improve our PSPS decision-making. 01:18:20.810 --> 01:18:23.370 Including utilizing more real time information 01:18:23.370 --> 01:18:25.730 by deploying our linemen to patrol 01:18:25.730 --> 01:18:27.623 and monitor conditions on the ground. 01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:31.820 As you know and it has already been commented 01:18:31.820 --> 01:18:34.742 the wildfire season is already in full swing. 01:18:34.742 --> 01:18:37.360 So I would like to conclude my opening comments 01:18:37.360 --> 01:18:40.630 with a brief update on Liberty's recent response 01:18:40.630 --> 01:18:42.440 to the Tamarack fire. 01:18:42.440 --> 01:18:45.333 Which was caused by lightning and fueled by high winds. 01:18:46.488 --> 01:18:49.530 And it did spread into Liberty's of service area, 01:18:49.530 --> 01:18:53.313 south of Lake Tahoe, the Lake Tahoe Basin and into Nevada. 01:18:54.470 --> 01:18:58.450 The fire burned over 60,000, 68,000 acres. 01:18:58.450 --> 01:18:59.690 At the high point, 01:18:59.690 --> 01:19:03.060 the fire caused the evacuation of one of our communities, 01:19:03.060 --> 01:19:06.300 the historic town of Markleeville and surrounding areas, 01:19:06.300 --> 01:19:09.720 and has impacted over a thousand Liberty customers 01:19:09.720 --> 01:19:11.610 at various times. 01:19:11.610 --> 01:19:14.730 Two weeks ago, the fire destroyed six miles 01:19:14.730 --> 01:19:16.250 of our main line and laterals 01:19:16.250 --> 01:19:19.680 serving Markleeville and the surrounding communities 01:19:19.680 --> 01:19:22.060 working closely with incident command, 01:19:22.060 --> 01:19:25.880 we organized and deployed over 100 Lyman and contractors 01:19:25.880 --> 01:19:27.250 to the fire zone. 01:19:27.250 --> 01:19:30.820 Our field crews worked 16 hour shifts to rebuild 01:19:30.820 --> 01:19:35.110 our main line laterals, which involve replacing 130 poles 01:19:35.110 --> 01:19:37.600 in very challenging and remote terrain 01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:40.565 and removing 4,800 fire damaged 01:19:40.565 --> 01:19:43.700 or destroyed trees from the right of ways. 01:19:43.700 --> 01:19:47.124 At the same time, we were able to mitigate customer impacts 01:19:47.124 --> 01:19:48.950 during the two week emergency 01:19:48.950 --> 01:19:52.040 by deploying temporary generators and Markleeville, 01:19:52.040 --> 01:19:55.580 which allowed us to keep those 350 plus customers in power 01:19:55.580 --> 01:19:57.293 while we rebuilt the lines. 01:19:58.440 --> 01:20:00.900 We also deployed and we're ready to power up 01:20:00.900 --> 01:20:04.480 temporary generators in the Coleville/Walker area 01:20:04.480 --> 01:20:08.130 while NB energy made repairs to their fire damaged lines, 01:20:08.130 --> 01:20:12.920 that feed power to our 770 customers in that area. 01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:14.480 We were fortunate that NB energy 01:20:14.480 --> 01:20:16.420 was able to complete the repairs 01:20:16.420 --> 01:20:18.307 without cutting power to our customers. 01:20:18.307 --> 01:20:21.170 So we did not have to power up the generators, 01:20:21.170 --> 01:20:23.120 but I would like to know we were ready. 01:20:24.670 --> 01:20:27.567 So by shifting all available resources to Markleeville area 01:20:27.567 --> 01:20:29.520 and working around the clock, 01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:31.830 we're happy to report as of two days ago, 01:20:31.830 --> 01:20:35.170 Liberty completed the rebuild, re-energize the lines 01:20:35.170 --> 01:20:37.106 and restored service to all customers 01:20:37.106 --> 01:20:40.130 that can receive power in the Markleeville area. 01:20:40.130 --> 01:20:44.710 So I also wanna thank all the public agency partners 01:20:44.710 --> 01:20:47.440 that we worked with during this emergency 01:20:47.440 --> 01:20:49.003 great learning lesson. 01:20:49.003 --> 01:20:52.059 We plan to spend a lot of time here 01:20:52.059 --> 01:20:56.020 once we finished the cleanup to really debrief 01:20:56.020 --> 01:20:57.270 and do a lessons learned 01:20:57.270 --> 01:21:00.890 and all this is gonna be hopefully helping us 01:21:00.890 --> 01:21:03.720 be better prepared for the next emergency. 01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:06.659 So with that, will you please. 01:21:06.659 --> 01:21:10.580 May I interrupt for just a second 01:21:10.580 --> 01:21:12.350 because it's quite extraordinary. 01:21:12.350 --> 01:21:16.040 Not only are you dealing with the Tamarack fire, 01:21:16.040 --> 01:21:20.680 and what had has occurred there, 01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:24.680 but also I would imagine the Beckworth complex fire. 01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:26.560 So I'm sure you're gonna talk about that, 01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:28.634 but I'm curious with the evacuations 01:21:28.634 --> 01:21:33.634 that were done in Markleeville area, 01:21:33.904 --> 01:21:36.890 were you all asked at all by the community, 01:21:36.890 --> 01:21:38.710 or maybe this will be one of your lessons learned 01:21:38.710 --> 01:21:42.510 to set up any kind of community on resource center, 01:21:42.510 --> 01:21:45.230 even though it's not that you call the PSPS, 01:21:45.230 --> 01:21:48.793 clearly people were evacuated and lost power. 01:21:50.646 --> 01:21:52.154 Well, we considered that, 01:21:52.154 --> 01:21:54.920 but we were fortunate that because of the entire town 01:21:54.920 --> 01:21:56.270 and surrounding areas were evacuated, 01:21:56.270 --> 01:21:59.960 it gave us time to procure temporary generators. 01:21:59.960 --> 01:22:01.920 And our engineers figured out a way 01:22:01.920 --> 01:22:05.470 to basically set up the temporary energy generators 01:22:05.470 --> 01:22:10.470 that could then power up the lines south of where we were, 01:22:10.510 --> 01:22:12.520 where our main line was destroyed. 01:22:12.520 --> 01:22:15.330 We were able to effectively power up the whole grid 01:22:15.330 --> 01:22:16.878 using temporary generators. 01:22:16.878 --> 01:22:18.600 So there was no immediate, 01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:20.450 there was no impact on the customers 01:22:20.450 --> 01:22:23.020 when they were able to move back into the area 01:22:23.020 --> 01:22:25.053 once the evacuation order was lifted. 01:22:26.050 --> 01:22:26.883 Okay. 01:22:26.883 --> 01:22:27.890 Yeah. 01:22:27.890 --> 01:22:32.890 And obviously there a lot of tribal land and area 01:22:33.440 --> 01:22:35.400 in that Markleeville 01:22:35.400 --> 01:22:39.477 both the Washoe as well as the Paiutes tribes. 01:22:41.451 --> 01:22:44.290 And not only have you had to contend with fires, 01:22:44.290 --> 01:22:47.060 but you had a tremendous earthquake in Walker. 01:22:47.060 --> 01:22:50.912 So I don't know in dealing with your 01:22:50.912 --> 01:22:53.690 you're still the facility is it's, 01:22:53.690 --> 01:22:56.523 it's shaking quite a bit these days as well. 01:22:57.470 --> 01:23:00.640 Well, I mean, we are now in a situation 01:23:00.640 --> 01:23:03.080 where if we're not preparing and ready 01:23:03.080 --> 01:23:05.831 and readying ourselves for the wildfire, 01:23:05.831 --> 01:23:10.480 we're in winter storm season, so we're getting very, 01:23:10.480 --> 01:23:12.630 we're getting very good and better each year 01:23:12.630 --> 01:23:15.240 at responding to emergency situations, 01:23:15.240 --> 01:23:18.702 just given the environment in which we operate 01:23:18.702 --> 01:23:20.870 and where the system is located. 01:23:20.870 --> 01:23:22.840 It sits on the mountain in the middle of the forest. 01:23:22.840 --> 01:23:25.473 So we're getting better each year. 01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:28.427 Okay. Thank you. 01:23:29.325 --> 01:23:30.530 Chris, this is Daniel. 01:23:30.530 --> 01:23:32.793 I have just a quick question on your rebuild. 01:23:32.793 --> 01:23:34.520 You know, first I have to acknowledge, 01:23:34.520 --> 01:23:37.460 obviously that your team must have worked significantly hard 01:23:37.460 --> 01:23:40.030 to restore power and restore the infrastructure 01:23:40.030 --> 01:23:42.613 that was destroyed by the fire, but just curious, 01:23:42.613 --> 01:23:44.550 were you able to take any opportunities 01:23:44.550 --> 01:23:46.970 to replace any of the line with covered line 01:23:46.970 --> 01:23:49.850 or any of the infrastructure with hardened items 01:23:49.850 --> 01:23:52.850 while you were in this rebuilding process? 01:23:52.850 --> 01:23:57.850 We looked at that the unfortunately the planning horizon 01:23:57.850 --> 01:24:02.220 for a cover conductor, it's a six to eight week process 01:24:02.220 --> 01:24:03.410 just to do the design. 01:24:03.410 --> 01:24:07.650 It is a special equipment you do. 01:24:07.650 --> 01:24:11.236 And so we had to weigh, do we do a cover conductor 01:24:11.236 --> 01:24:13.740 that would take a lot more time, 01:24:13.740 --> 01:24:16.950 or do we go ahead and rebuild the line 01:24:16.950 --> 01:24:18.540 as quickly as possible 01:24:18.540 --> 01:24:21.260 to get to keep the customers in power? 01:24:21.260 --> 01:24:25.620 And the temporary generators, that's not a long-term fix 01:24:25.620 --> 01:24:28.230 and we weren't comfortable running those generators 01:24:28.230 --> 01:24:31.280 could be, it could take us anywhere to two to three months 01:24:31.280 --> 01:24:33.400 to complete a cover conductor project 01:24:33.400 --> 01:24:37.070 with just the planning horizon, ordering the materials. 01:24:37.070 --> 01:24:39.940 So we did consider it, but at the end of the day, 01:24:39.940 --> 01:24:43.850 we opted to minimize the customer impact 01:24:43.850 --> 01:24:45.840 and rebuild the line. 01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:47.270 We did upgrade the poles 01:24:47.270 --> 01:24:50.570 and I believe we upgraded the wires as well, 01:24:50.570 --> 01:24:53.033 but we did not go all the way it's covered conduct. 01:24:54.150 --> 01:24:54.983 Thank you. 01:24:55.840 --> 01:24:57.750 All up to that. 01:24:57.750 --> 01:24:59.823 You know, one of the things that also is, 01:25:01.292 --> 01:25:02.610 and I appreciate the kind of conundrum 01:25:04.516 --> 01:25:05.349 about needing to get power back up 01:25:07.148 --> 01:25:10.100 and perhaps maybe not missing the opportunity to harden, 01:25:10.100 --> 01:25:15.010 but not having that readily available. 01:25:15.010 --> 01:25:19.900 And the similar can, the situation tends to exist 01:25:19.900 --> 01:25:22.670 with the communications infrastructure. 01:25:22.670 --> 01:25:27.390 And in this case, you sound like you're above ground, 01:25:27.390 --> 01:25:29.440 still with all the infrastructure, 01:25:29.440 --> 01:25:31.010 but was there any communication 01:25:31.010 --> 01:25:34.060 with a telecommunication providers in the area 01:25:34.060 --> 01:25:39.020 about even attaching together, 01:25:39.020 --> 01:25:42.337 making sure the poles were updated to make sure 01:25:45.639 --> 01:25:47.440 they could withstand enough 01:25:47.440 --> 01:25:49.283 of the communication attachments? 01:25:50.770 --> 01:25:51.603 Yes. 01:25:51.603 --> 01:25:53.040 My understanding is all the polls were designed. 01:25:53.040 --> 01:25:54.540 I believe that the original, 01:25:54.540 --> 01:25:59.280 that the existing mainline we had there 01:25:59.280 --> 01:26:02.850 did actually have telecommunications hardware on it already. 01:26:02.850 --> 01:26:04.100 I think we had agreements 01:26:05.400 --> 01:26:07.000 with the telecommunication provider 01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:08.970 to have those hardware there. 01:26:08.970 --> 01:26:12.330 But I'll defer, I'll bring Travis in here. 01:26:12.330 --> 01:26:14.080 Travis, do you have any more information 01:26:14.080 --> 01:26:15.730 on the telecommunications? 01:26:15.730 --> 01:26:17.410 I believe generally what the plan is 01:26:17.410 --> 01:26:19.570 we get our poles in place, we get the power up 01:26:19.570 --> 01:26:21.870 and then the telecommunication company 01:26:21.870 --> 01:26:26.083 comes behind us and then strings are their lines back on. 01:26:26.985 --> 01:26:28.410 Yeah, that's correct, Chris. 01:26:28.410 --> 01:26:32.130 So I think it's frontier that actually serves that region 01:26:32.130 --> 01:26:35.630 and all poles calcs were done 01:26:35.630 --> 01:26:38.140 to allow for that telecom, you know, 01:26:38.140 --> 01:26:40.850 hardware to be restrung on the poles. 01:26:40.850 --> 01:26:42.563 So it's certainly designed for it. 01:26:46.410 --> 01:26:49.556 So this is Mark, and just a quick thing 01:26:49.556 --> 01:26:53.140 and I appreciate your briefing. 01:26:53.140 --> 01:26:58.140 So I spent quite a bit of time up in Alpine and Markleeville 01:26:58.240 --> 01:27:01.160 whether in the fire and afterwards, and I'd say your, 01:27:01.160 --> 01:27:04.669 your crews are kicking butt out there and doing a great job 01:27:04.669 --> 01:27:09.357 and in restoration and the work that they're doing. 01:27:09.357 --> 01:27:12.560 It didn't dawn on me as I was driving by 01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:15.600 a number of your crews and watching their operations 01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:20.600 about rebuilding and how you're rebuilding, 01:27:20.956 --> 01:27:25.670 you know the fire came through there in 84, the acorn fire. 01:27:25.670 --> 01:27:28.130 Now we've got a fire again, this year. 01:27:28.130 --> 01:27:30.490 Probability is we'll see, fire there again. 01:27:30.490 --> 01:27:35.470 And so really from a policy standpoint 01:27:35.470 --> 01:27:36.803 from the organization, 01:27:38.200 --> 01:27:40.440 how are you thinking about investing 01:27:40.440 --> 01:27:41.910 in hardening your infrastructure? 01:27:41.910 --> 01:27:44.210 What are your plan there? 01:27:44.210 --> 01:27:49.210 I mean, if we build back exactly as we had before, 01:27:50.025 --> 01:27:53.320 then we're destined to sort of see the same 01:27:53.320 --> 01:27:55.940 sort of outcome in future events. 01:27:55.940 --> 01:27:58.320 So just kind of one of the mitigation efforts 01:27:58.320 --> 01:28:01.670 you are focusing on and how you're doing them? 01:28:03.007 --> 01:28:04.500 Now, I'll briefly respond to that. 01:28:04.500 --> 01:28:08.650 But I think Travis, in his slide, in two slides from now, 01:28:08.650 --> 01:28:09.990 we'll be going more into that. 01:28:09.990 --> 01:28:13.610 But our challenge is that over 90% of our overhead lines 01:28:13.610 --> 01:28:16.670 are in high wildfire threat districts. 01:28:16.670 --> 01:28:20.080 If in a perfect world and we had endless access to capital 01:28:20.080 --> 01:28:22.970 and we didn't have to impact rates, 01:28:22.970 --> 01:28:26.059 we would be doing a lot more cover conductors 01:28:26.059 --> 01:28:28.840 and a lot more undergrounding. 01:28:28.840 --> 01:28:31.670 But unfortunately that we have to balance 01:28:31.670 --> 01:28:35.141 both the needs of improving the system 01:28:35.141 --> 01:28:39.250 and at the same time trying to manage the impacts on rates. 01:28:39.250 --> 01:28:41.530 And we take that very seriously. 01:28:41.530 --> 01:28:45.840 So what our challenge is really, really focusing on 01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:49.720 and having a good criteria around prioritizing the projects. 01:28:49.720 --> 01:28:53.230 And I would assume, and Travis might be able to speak to it 01:28:53.230 --> 01:28:56.650 that this particular main line to Markleeville 01:28:56.650 --> 01:28:59.780 is probably somewhere in our overall planning, 01:28:59.780 --> 01:29:03.690 but there are other projects I know there are other projects 01:29:03.690 --> 01:29:07.180 ahead of that one that have been ranked a higher priority 01:29:07.180 --> 01:29:11.090 based on both our risk-based decision-making framework, 01:29:11.090 --> 01:29:14.260 as well as other criteria that we take into account. 01:29:14.260 --> 01:29:18.080 And so we're getting better every year at it 01:29:18.080 --> 01:29:23.080 but as you can see the system that we operate, 01:29:23.968 --> 01:29:28.968 it's very challenging to try to do everything all at once. 01:29:29.610 --> 01:29:33.300 It's almost impossible, but we appreciate that feedback. 01:29:33.300 --> 01:29:34.560 And when you come visit us, 01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:37.070 we could probably spend some more time sharing with you, 01:29:37.070 --> 01:29:39.771 how we go about using this criteria to really identify, 01:29:39.771 --> 01:29:41.966 evaluate, and select 01:29:41.966 --> 01:29:44.493 and prioritize the projects we're gonna do. 01:29:47.192 --> 01:29:48.320 Great. Thanks. 01:29:48.320 --> 01:29:49.520 Appreciate the feedback. 01:29:50.480 --> 01:29:51.313 Okay. 01:29:52.277 --> 01:29:54.823 Can we advance to the next slide? 01:29:57.276 --> 01:29:58.109 Okay. 01:29:58.109 --> 01:30:02.380 So on publication, public education, outreach improvements. 01:30:02.380 --> 01:30:04.945 This is one area that I have taken a particular interest in, 01:30:04.945 --> 01:30:08.550 and I do work closely with our customer service groups 01:30:08.550 --> 01:30:11.050 and our public outreach people, 01:30:11.050 --> 01:30:13.223 as well as our customer communications. 01:30:14.525 --> 01:30:18.800 I am happy to report that we are making good progress 01:30:18.800 --> 01:30:21.980 in connecting with our customers and local communities 01:30:21.980 --> 01:30:25.210 and educating them about the wildfire threats and risks 01:30:25.210 --> 01:30:27.020 and our mitigation efforts and programs 01:30:27.020 --> 01:30:29.300 aimed at keeping our customers safe 01:30:29.300 --> 01:30:32.293 and minimizing as best possible impact on our customers. 01:30:33.610 --> 01:30:36.067 We, of course like all the other companies, 01:30:36.067 --> 01:30:39.940 we are continue to use traditional communication means 01:30:39.940 --> 01:30:42.640 to public meeting formats, 01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:45.170 to get the message out to our customers. 01:30:45.170 --> 01:30:47.860 So far this year, we've completed 12 public meetings 01:30:47.860 --> 01:30:50.430 with counties and community organizations, 01:30:50.430 --> 01:30:54.100 14 targeted social media posts on Twitter and Facebook 01:30:54.100 --> 01:30:56.630 and for direct mail and email communications 01:30:56.630 --> 01:31:00.330 on specific subjects and vegetation management. 01:31:00.330 --> 01:31:03.760 We also have several people in our organization 01:31:03.760 --> 01:31:06.290 that are active in the local communities. 01:31:06.290 --> 01:31:10.060 A number of our employees are part of the local community 01:31:10.060 --> 01:31:11.640 and our customers. 01:31:11.640 --> 01:31:14.360 And so in addition to what we do here 01:31:14.360 --> 01:31:16.512 formally through our communications program, 01:31:16.512 --> 01:31:19.420 we do have eyes and ears in the local community 01:31:19.420 --> 01:31:22.940 and advancing our messaging and try to get better 01:31:22.940 --> 01:31:25.900 at really identifying and meeting with 01:31:25.900 --> 01:31:29.233 and getting information out to any and all customers. 01:31:30.900 --> 01:31:33.090 We have learned a lot over the last three years, 01:31:33.090 --> 01:31:35.420 and we are applying these lessons 01:31:35.420 --> 01:31:38.633 to improve our public education and outreach program. 01:31:39.981 --> 01:31:43.140 We are getting better at this and notably 01:31:43.140 --> 01:31:45.130 we are making good progress in registering 01:31:45.130 --> 01:31:48.103 and supporting our medical baseline customers. 01:31:50.029 --> 01:31:53.290 I think one thing I'd really like to note here, 01:31:53.290 --> 01:31:54.840 and I think this is a testament 01:31:55.975 --> 01:31:57.180 of the commitment of our team. 01:31:57.180 --> 01:31:59.630 Our customer service team has called visited 01:31:59.630 --> 01:32:03.832 all 258 registered medical baseline customers 01:32:03.832 --> 01:32:06.280 to update their contact information 01:32:06.280 --> 01:32:08.540 so that we've got good contact information 01:32:08.540 --> 01:32:10.820 in the event we have an emergency 01:32:10.820 --> 01:32:13.570 and also they answer any other questions they may have. 01:32:14.520 --> 01:32:18.070 Now we've got a lot of work to do in this space 01:32:18.070 --> 01:32:19.639 and we know it. 01:32:19.639 --> 01:32:23.840 And I would say our biggest challenge and top priority now 01:32:23.840 --> 01:32:27.151 is engaging supporting the needs of our AFN 01:32:27.151 --> 01:32:29.116 and Spanish speaking customers. 01:32:29.116 --> 01:32:31.834 We are actively working on creating partnerships 01:32:31.834 --> 01:32:34.590 with six local CBOs 01:32:34.590 --> 01:32:36.950 to assist with our identification outreach 01:32:36.950 --> 01:32:38.520 and registration efforts, 01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:42.240 to customers with special assistance and notification needs. 01:32:42.240 --> 01:32:46.080 We recently engaged with the Washoe tribe, 01:32:46.080 --> 01:32:49.150 who are located in the Southern end of our service territory 01:32:49.150 --> 01:32:52.300 to update them on our response to outages in their area, 01:32:52.300 --> 01:32:54.170 caused by the Tamarack fire 01:32:54.170 --> 01:32:56.123 and discuss future collaboration. 01:32:57.200 --> 01:33:01.990 We have provided TBOs PSPS toolkits in English and Spanish 01:33:01.990 --> 01:33:03.630 detailing what customers can do 01:33:03.630 --> 01:33:06.220 to be prepared for PSPS events 01:33:06.220 --> 01:33:07.920 and are prepared to provide the toolkit 01:33:07.920 --> 01:33:10.803 in other languages upon request. 01:33:13.400 --> 01:33:18.180 We were also working on establishing a portal on our website 01:33:18.180 --> 01:33:21.080 for customers to self identify as AFN 01:33:21.080 --> 01:33:24.363 and expect this to be in service by next month. 01:33:27.181 --> 01:33:31.370 And we are, what else are we doing here? 01:33:31.370 --> 01:33:35.840 We also are working to identify additional CBOs, 01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:38.610 and this is probably the biggest challenge for us 01:33:38.610 --> 01:33:41.720 because this is not a readily group 01:33:41.720 --> 01:33:44.100 that is easy to identify. 01:33:44.100 --> 01:33:48.090 We do not track that in our customer information system. 01:33:48.090 --> 01:33:51.020 And so we'd had particular challenges there. 01:33:51.020 --> 01:33:53.540 And one response has been of course, 01:33:53.540 --> 01:33:56.200 is to reaching out and partnering with CBOs. 01:33:56.200 --> 01:33:59.240 But the other thing that we identified and recognizes 01:33:59.240 --> 01:34:01.725 that we don't have enough resources 01:34:01.725 --> 01:34:03.680 on this particular challenge. 01:34:03.680 --> 01:34:06.470 And so we are in the process of hiring two new positions 01:34:06.470 --> 01:34:10.280 to focus on deepening, expanding the CBO partnerships. 01:34:10.280 --> 01:34:13.100 And we've also are hiring one new bilingual position 01:34:13.100 --> 01:34:14.140 to perform outreach 01:34:15.152 --> 01:34:16.710 and support our Spanish speaking customers. 01:34:16.710 --> 01:34:18.480 We have one of these positions 01:34:18.480 --> 01:34:20.934 will be filled a manager of public outreach. 01:34:20.934 --> 01:34:24.920 The lady had accepted the position 01:34:24.920 --> 01:34:27.793 and we'll be starting in the next couple of weeks. 01:34:28.887 --> 01:34:31.753 So finally I wanted to touch upon. 01:34:32.880 --> 01:34:35.950 We are also making good progress on building relationships 01:34:35.950 --> 01:34:38.440 and coordinating with the major communication 01:34:38.440 --> 01:34:40.320 carriers in our service area. 01:34:40.320 --> 01:34:42.300 We have established points of contact 01:34:42.300 --> 01:34:47.300 with Verizon, AT&T and Frontier all of whom are now engaged 01:34:47.510 --> 01:34:51.290 in participating in our PSPS exercise and wildfire safety 01:34:51.290 --> 01:34:53.140 to (mumbles) advisory board meetings. 01:34:55.700 --> 01:34:58.780 For taking into account the time here, 01:34:58.780 --> 01:35:01.140 I would like to advance to the next slide 01:35:01.140 --> 01:35:04.650 and have Travis go ahead and I'll turn it over to Travis 01:35:04.650 --> 01:35:06.752 to talk about grid hardening. 01:35:06.752 --> 01:35:08.870 Unless there's any questions 01:35:08.870 --> 01:35:10.623 that you want me to take right now. 01:35:12.970 --> 01:35:13.803 Okay. 01:35:13.803 --> 01:35:16.810 So Travis, it's I'll turn it over to you. 01:35:16.810 --> 01:35:17.920 All right. 01:35:17.920 --> 01:35:19.110 So quick audio check. 01:35:19.110 --> 01:35:20.810 I'm assuming everyone can hear me. 01:35:23.290 --> 01:35:24.240 Okay. 01:35:24.240 --> 01:35:26.797 So I'd like to open if I could. 01:35:26.797 --> 01:35:28.650 First of all, President Batjer, 01:35:28.650 --> 01:35:31.500 thank you for the opportunity to speak today. 01:35:31.500 --> 01:35:34.200 And President Batjer, (giggles) 01:35:34.200 --> 01:35:37.570 your comment was not lost upon us. 01:35:37.570 --> 01:35:40.390 We do have the backward complex fire, 01:35:40.390 --> 01:35:44.440 just adjacent to the Northern portion of our system 01:35:44.440 --> 01:35:46.750 that certainly got the blood pressure up. 01:35:46.750 --> 01:35:49.400 But thankfully we haven't had any infrastructure damage 01:35:49.400 --> 01:35:50.763 from that fire. 01:35:50.763 --> 01:35:51.802 We do. 01:35:51.802 --> 01:35:55.562 It's interesting that 6.0 earthquake, 01:35:55.562 --> 01:35:57.650 the largest one in the Western US, 01:35:57.650 --> 01:35:59.230 I think in the last 25 years 01:35:59.230 --> 01:36:02.270 you have the center was essentially Walker, California. 01:36:02.270 --> 01:36:06.800 It's those folks haven't had enough hardship as of late. 01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:10.660 And then the Tamarack fire is currently still active. 01:36:10.660 --> 01:36:14.180 And I think it's noteworthy that we almost forget it, 01:36:14.180 --> 01:36:17.380 but all of this stuff is going on during a global pandemic, 01:36:17.380 --> 01:36:21.180 which I never thought I would have said these words 01:36:21.180 --> 01:36:23.070 altogether in a couple of sentences. 01:36:23.070 --> 01:36:26.043 So there's certainly a lot going on here. 01:36:27.720 --> 01:36:31.110 So some of the system hardening improvements 01:36:31.110 --> 01:36:32.910 that we just like to call out, 01:36:32.910 --> 01:36:36.743 we are doing quite a bit of covered conductor work as well. 01:36:37.760 --> 01:36:39.990 I think we're up to over seven miles 01:36:41.420 --> 01:36:44.080 of covered conductor in the air now. 01:36:44.080 --> 01:36:45.480 Majority in the Tahoe Basin 01:36:45.480 --> 01:36:49.373 with some down on the Walker/Coleville area. 01:36:49.373 --> 01:36:53.568 The one of our kind of flagship things 01:36:53.568 --> 01:36:55.580 that we're pretty proud of 01:36:55.580 --> 01:36:58.630 is the Sagehen Microgrid project. 01:36:58.630 --> 01:37:01.690 This is a Microgrid that we installed 01:37:01.690 --> 01:37:03.810 that powers the University of Berkeley's 01:37:03.810 --> 01:37:06.430 a Sagehen Creek Field Station. 01:37:06.430 --> 01:37:09.210 And essentially what this project allows us to do 01:37:09.210 --> 01:37:13.360 is de-energize around three miles of distribution line 01:37:13.360 --> 01:37:14.710 that goes through some pretty remote 01:37:14.710 --> 01:37:16.860 and challenging terrain. 01:37:16.860 --> 01:37:20.170 So currently, as of May early May of this year, 01:37:20.170 --> 01:37:22.570 we power that lateral down 01:37:22.570 --> 01:37:25.770 and we're feeding the campus completely with our solar 01:37:26.760 --> 01:37:28.500 array there and battery storage. 01:37:28.500 --> 01:37:30.670 And so far we've been doing great, 01:37:30.670 --> 01:37:32.170 state of charge has been solid, 01:37:32.170 --> 01:37:35.600 and we haven't had to rely on the distribution lateral 01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:36.910 to power that campus. 01:37:36.910 --> 01:37:39.443 So that's been pretty exciting for us. 01:37:40.830 --> 01:37:44.664 One of the details behind our pole replacement program 01:37:44.664 --> 01:37:48.390 is I think as most folks on this WebEx know, 01:37:48.390 --> 01:37:50.140 we're required to only inspect 01:37:50.140 --> 01:37:52.860 about 20% of our poles each year. 01:37:52.860 --> 01:37:55.760 Well, we took the initiative last early last year. 01:37:55.760 --> 01:37:57.410 We said, that's not good enough for us 01:37:57.410 --> 01:38:00.390 in these conditions that we're now the new normal. 01:38:00.390 --> 01:38:02.750 So we actually went out and inspected 01:38:02.750 --> 01:38:06.540 every single one of our poles in the calendar year of 2020. 01:38:07.540 --> 01:38:09.033 So that's five times more inspection work 01:38:09.033 --> 01:38:10.820 than we're used to, 01:38:10.820 --> 01:38:14.470 which of course would generate a lot more repairs 01:38:14.470 --> 01:38:16.520 once you go out looking for issues. 01:38:16.520 --> 01:38:19.850 So the pole replacements that we're doing now 01:38:19.850 --> 01:38:24.540 are just enormous, five times more than we normally would 01:38:25.400 --> 01:38:28.910 on top of a large spin up in CapEx related 01:38:28.910 --> 01:38:30.883 spending on covered conductor. 01:38:31.847 --> 01:38:34.180 So lots going on here in the Tahoe area 01:38:35.285 --> 01:38:37.110 regarding those items. 01:38:37.110 --> 01:38:39.280 Fuse replacements I think we all know what those are. 01:38:39.280 --> 01:38:42.870 Expulsion fuses in that hot particles when they operate. 01:38:42.870 --> 01:38:46.643 So we're working diligently to get those changed out. 01:38:46.643 --> 01:38:51.320 Tree attachments may not be totally known 01:38:51.320 --> 01:38:55.620 everywhere in California, but up in the Tahoe area, 01:38:55.620 --> 01:38:57.956 the prior owner of this utility utilized, 01:38:57.956 --> 01:39:00.080 and it was kind of common practice back then 01:39:00.080 --> 01:39:02.490 uses threes to run service wire to home. 01:39:02.490 --> 01:39:05.415 So we're getting rid of those attachments 01:39:05.415 --> 01:39:09.620 'cause trees continue to move and die over time. 01:39:09.620 --> 01:39:12.560 And we don't wanna have our service wire hooked up to those. 01:39:12.560 --> 01:39:15.903 We're doing quite a bit of a wire upgrade projects as well. 01:39:17.282 --> 01:39:19.200 And the things that aren't on here 01:39:19.200 --> 01:39:22.070 that I do think are worthy of touching on 01:39:22.070 --> 01:39:25.460 is in King's Beach we deCommissioned 01:39:25.460 --> 01:39:27.860 very old substation called Brockway Sub 01:39:27.860 --> 01:39:32.520 and Commissioner Guzman (indistinct) and team 01:39:32.520 --> 01:39:34.880 had the opportunity to tour that. 01:39:34.880 --> 01:39:38.640 I believe it was late 2019 or early 2020 01:39:38.640 --> 01:39:40.161 before the pandemic. 01:39:40.161 --> 01:39:42.170 Very pleased to say that substation 01:39:42.170 --> 01:39:45.770 is not only de-energized, it is gone and we've replaced it 01:39:45.770 --> 01:39:48.490 with a new metal clad switchgear station, 01:39:48.490 --> 01:39:50.130 just up the street at King's Beach Sub. 01:39:50.130 --> 01:39:54.280 So that one, I just a huge thanks to the Commission 01:39:54.280 --> 01:39:57.323 and partnering with us to get that approved and eliminated. 01:39:59.780 --> 01:40:02.400 Let's see here, a couple other things on the list 01:40:02.400 --> 01:40:03.250 that I wanted to share 01:40:03.250 --> 01:40:05.928 as we were also doing a high impedance, 01:40:05.928 --> 01:40:06.761 all detection partnership 01:40:06.761 --> 01:40:08.660 with the University of Nevada, Reno. 01:40:08.660 --> 01:40:13.450 And so for the non protection engineers on the call 01:40:13.450 --> 01:40:15.010 that if you have a high impedance fall, 01:40:15.010 --> 01:40:16.940 something like a tree leaning on the line, 01:40:16.940 --> 01:40:19.430 but may not be establishing fault current, 01:40:19.430 --> 01:40:21.000 those are hard to detect sometimes. 01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:23.460 So we're working with UNR there 01:40:23.460 --> 01:40:26.856 to improve our ability to see those issues 01:40:26.856 --> 01:40:30.200 before we do have some type of ignition start. 01:40:30.200 --> 01:40:32.442 We're also working with Texas A&M on a DFA 01:40:32.442 --> 01:40:35.380 that's distribution fault anticipation. 01:40:35.380 --> 01:40:38.900 We heard Pacific Corp talking about that 01:40:38.900 --> 01:40:40.600 with wave form analytics. 01:40:40.600 --> 01:40:42.749 So certainly exciting stuff there. 01:40:42.749 --> 01:40:47.470 And essentially that's detecting that fault 01:40:47.470 --> 01:40:49.370 before the fault current, 01:40:49.370 --> 01:40:52.403 before that actual arc burst happens. 01:40:52.403 --> 01:40:57.183 So excited to see how that program pans out. 01:40:58.610 --> 01:41:00.770 So those are the highlights I wanted to share 01:41:00.770 --> 01:41:03.800 on grid and Hardy, excuse me, grid hardening. 01:41:03.800 --> 01:41:05.976 And now I'll pass it back over to Chris, 01:41:05.976 --> 01:41:07.220 to take the next slide. 01:41:07.220 --> 01:41:08.250 Yeah. 01:41:08.250 --> 01:41:10.030 It's Daniel, before you move on 01:41:10.030 --> 01:41:11.640 it just a quick question. 01:41:11.640 --> 01:41:13.940 Thank you for the numbers here on your home 01:41:13.940 --> 01:41:15.990 or on your infrastructure hardening, 01:41:15.990 --> 01:41:17.970 but do you have any measurable targets 01:41:17.970 --> 01:41:18.820 for what you've been able 01:41:18.820 --> 01:41:20.710 to actually accomplish here in 2021, 01:41:20.710 --> 01:41:23.410 again, acknowledging that you have been redirected 01:41:23.410 --> 01:41:27.280 and focused on rebuilding a lot of your line, 01:41:27.280 --> 01:41:29.640 but do you have any idea of the percentage of completion 01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:31.803 for, for this year's goals? 01:41:33.030 --> 01:41:34.750 Okay, a very good question. 01:41:34.750 --> 01:41:37.260 So first I did wanna take an opportunity 01:41:37.260 --> 01:41:40.087 to address the earlier question about rebuilding 01:41:40.087 --> 01:41:42.130 and the Markleeville area. 01:41:42.130 --> 01:41:45.630 So the near term goal is unfortunately 01:41:46.890 --> 01:41:50.430 all of the trees adjacent to our burn line were killed. 01:41:50.430 --> 01:41:53.500 So we took the opportunity to work with those landowners 01:41:53.500 --> 01:41:57.150 to remove any tree that had striked just since, 01:41:57.150 --> 01:41:59.596 within strike distance in our line. 01:41:59.596 --> 01:42:02.720 So from a fire safety perspective that right away now, 01:42:02.720 --> 01:42:04.250 it looks like a transmission corridor 01:42:04.250 --> 01:42:06.270 along that distribution feeder. 01:42:06.270 --> 01:42:08.730 So that's the short term sort of strategy 01:42:08.730 --> 01:42:13.730 we've come in with much higher class poles in most cases, 01:42:14.130 --> 01:42:17.700 so stronger poles, but a very, very clear right away 01:42:17.700 --> 01:42:19.000 is the short-term strategy. 01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:21.440 And then as we move into the latter years, 01:42:21.440 --> 01:42:24.040 it will be a covered conductor opportunity. 01:42:24.040 --> 01:42:25.090 And as Chris mentioned, 01:42:25.090 --> 01:42:27.010 that's just a little bit lower down the priority. 01:42:27.010 --> 01:42:28.469 Now that's out right away. 01:42:28.469 --> 01:42:30.723 It looks like a transmission corridor. 01:42:31.750 --> 01:42:34.120 So regarding being on track and on schedule 01:42:34.120 --> 01:42:35.470 for a covered conducted projects, 01:42:35.470 --> 01:42:37.530 we still expect to have those completed 01:42:37.530 --> 01:42:40.930 by the end of our construction season. 01:42:40.930 --> 01:42:42.460 And I think it's worthy to point out 01:42:42.460 --> 01:42:44.550 for the team on the phone. 01:42:44.550 --> 01:42:47.560 We have a very unique circumstance in Tahoe, 01:42:47.560 --> 01:42:48.747 in the basin here 01:42:48.747 --> 01:42:51.550 and here we can only build in what we call dig season, 01:42:51.550 --> 01:42:53.560 which is May 1st to October 15th. 01:42:53.560 --> 01:42:55.410 So we have a very tight window 01:42:55.410 --> 01:42:56.690 to actually get projects done. 01:42:56.690 --> 01:42:59.510 And that's regarding water clarity for the Tahoe Basin. 01:42:59.510 --> 01:43:01.420 We don't wanna have a lot of soil disturbance 01:43:01.420 --> 01:43:04.165 and cause a degradation of clarity. 01:43:04.165 --> 01:43:06.410 So yes, we are on schedule 01:43:06.410 --> 01:43:08.647 for our cover conductor projects in '21, 01:43:08.647 --> 01:43:11.130 and we should get those wrapped up. 01:43:11.130 --> 01:43:12.480 Well, I applaud you again. 01:43:12.480 --> 01:43:13.490 That's gotta be tough work 01:43:13.490 --> 01:43:15.230 with all the rebuilding that's going on. 01:43:15.230 --> 01:43:16.530 So thank you for that. 01:43:16.530 --> 01:43:18.343 Appreciate the explanation. 01:43:19.210 --> 01:43:20.090 Yeah. 01:43:20.090 --> 01:43:22.390 I just wanted to add a couple of comments too. 01:43:23.361 --> 01:43:28.361 So I actually just checked and we are tracking to complete 01:43:30.100 --> 01:43:33.210 our entire capital program for wildfire mitigation. 01:43:33.210 --> 01:43:34.043 You can see it. 01:43:34.043 --> 01:43:36.030 I think it's $34 million number, 01:43:36.030 --> 01:43:38.091 actually, it's higher than that. 01:43:38.091 --> 01:43:40.079 We've added some more projects. 01:43:40.079 --> 01:43:41.985 We are probably by the end of the year, 01:43:41.985 --> 01:43:43.680 we're gonna complete potentially up to $40 million 01:43:43.680 --> 01:43:45.080 of capital improvements 01:43:45.080 --> 01:43:48.309 targeted specifically at wildfire mitigation. 01:43:48.309 --> 01:43:50.300 The other thing I wanted to comment too 01:43:50.300 --> 01:43:53.190 is is that we actually received a number of awards 01:43:53.190 --> 01:43:55.306 on that Microgrid project up at Sagehen. 01:43:55.306 --> 01:44:00.306 And now what we're doing as part of our feasibility analysis 01:44:01.070 --> 01:44:03.400 for our cover conductor projects, 01:44:03.400 --> 01:44:05.540 we do a alternative analysis 01:44:05.540 --> 01:44:07.410 on each and every cover conductor 01:44:07.410 --> 01:44:11.240 to see if there is the possibility to utilize a Microgrid, 01:44:11.240 --> 01:44:13.420 to either replace the cover conductor 01:44:13.420 --> 01:44:16.630 or in some cases shortened to cover conductor link. 01:44:16.630 --> 01:44:18.940 And so it was a great learning opportunity 01:44:18.940 --> 01:44:20.130 to Sagehen project. 01:44:20.130 --> 01:44:21.810 It worked out very well. 01:44:21.810 --> 01:44:24.610 And so we're taking that success 01:44:24.610 --> 01:44:27.160 and now we're looking to see if we can deploy it elsewhere 01:44:27.160 --> 01:44:28.540 in the service area. 01:44:28.540 --> 01:44:33.540 Which not only will, help us lower, get more work done. 01:44:33.781 --> 01:44:36.823 But the other thing it does too, 01:44:36.823 --> 01:44:38.430 is it is a lower cost option in many cases 01:44:38.430 --> 01:44:40.510 to and to the coverage conductor. 01:44:40.510 --> 01:44:43.110 So we're getting a better bang for the buck as well. 01:44:44.370 --> 01:44:46.262 So with that, why don't we go ahead and-- 01:44:46.262 --> 01:44:47.095 Sorry. 01:44:47.095 --> 01:44:48.640 Can I ask a clarifying question on that 01:44:48.640 --> 01:44:52.610 and why does the source of energy impact 01:44:52.610 --> 01:44:55.160 whether or not you should have a covered conductor? 01:44:57.430 --> 01:45:01.997 How's the Microgrid as a source of energy impact wires? 01:45:05.620 --> 01:45:08.030 Well, what it basically allows us to do Commissioner, 01:45:08.030 --> 01:45:12.520 it allows us to take that three mile stretch of line 01:45:12.520 --> 01:45:15.260 to take it out of service during the wildfire season. 01:45:15.260 --> 01:45:18.700 So what we basically do that mile that Microgrid 01:45:18.700 --> 01:45:21.824 during the wildfire season supplies 100% of the power 01:45:21.824 --> 01:45:24.670 to that Sagehen facility. 01:45:24.670 --> 01:45:27.320 And it allows us to take out a service 01:45:27.320 --> 01:45:31.380 aligned in a very high fire, okay? 01:45:31.380 --> 01:45:33.260 Yeah. Thank you. 01:45:33.260 --> 01:45:34.677 You're welcome. 01:45:35.560 --> 01:45:37.893 Should we go ahead and advance to the next slide? 01:45:40.691 --> 01:45:43.510 So I talked a lot about AFN and vulnerable customers, 01:45:43.510 --> 01:45:45.650 and if there's more questions on that, I can answer them. 01:45:45.650 --> 01:45:49.120 But for the balance of the time here, 01:45:49.120 --> 01:45:52.870 I really would like to give Travis an opportunity 01:45:52.870 --> 01:45:54.070 to share with the group here, 01:45:54.070 --> 01:45:57.410 what we're doing with respect to our resiliency program. 01:45:57.410 --> 01:46:01.020 And specifically we have a very innovative project 01:46:01.020 --> 01:46:03.360 that we're gonna be bringing forward to the Commission here 01:46:03.360 --> 01:46:07.010 in short order, probably within the next 30 to 60 days. 01:46:07.010 --> 01:46:07.843 But Travis, 01:46:07.843 --> 01:46:10.853 why don't you share with them our resiliency program? 01:46:12.320 --> 01:46:13.250 Thank you for that, Chris. 01:46:13.250 --> 01:46:15.810 So this is an exciting program where 01:46:17.324 --> 01:46:22.324 we're looking to deploy over 300 behind the meter batteries. 01:46:22.660 --> 01:46:25.940 And so the target is around 272 batteries 01:46:25.940 --> 01:46:28.960 for medical baseline customers. 01:46:28.960 --> 01:46:32.540 There would be around 35 for critical facility customers 01:46:32.540 --> 01:46:36.280 and then another 20 to 21 batteries, 01:46:36.280 --> 01:46:41.280 large battery systems for large customers in that category. 01:46:42.330 --> 01:46:45.037 So these would be owned and operated by Liberty, 01:46:45.037 --> 01:46:49.150 and we could also deploy them as a virtual power plant 01:46:49.150 --> 01:46:53.400 to achieve demand, charge savings from NB energy 01:46:53.400 --> 01:46:55.420 to help fund the program. 01:46:55.420 --> 01:46:58.480 So what we wanted to do is reach out to our customers 01:46:58.480 --> 01:47:00.050 as we were crafting this program 01:47:00.050 --> 01:47:01.530 to get a lot of input from them. 01:47:01.530 --> 01:47:05.320 So we've received 388 surveys 01:47:05.320 --> 01:47:10.320 completed from our customer base on this resiliency program 01:47:10.600 --> 01:47:14.053 and including 30 from critical care 01:47:14.053 --> 01:47:16.945 or green cross customers on their thoughts. 01:47:16.945 --> 01:47:19.150 So what we're essentially gonna do with this information 01:47:19.150 --> 01:47:22.085 is package it all together, take that feedback. 01:47:22.085 --> 01:47:23.067 And then as Chris said, 01:47:23.067 --> 01:47:24.780 we're gonna approach the Commission here 01:47:24.780 --> 01:47:27.840 in short order with this program. 01:47:27.840 --> 01:47:29.730 Another part of-- 01:47:29.730 --> 01:47:31.853 Can I ask you, sorry to interrupt you. 01:47:32.990 --> 01:47:36.070 How does that compare to the universe 01:47:36.070 --> 01:47:38.593 of your medical baseline customers 300? 01:47:39.526 --> 01:47:42.510 You said you're targeting 300 customers 01:47:42.510 --> 01:47:45.420 in 35 critical care facilities. 01:47:45.420 --> 01:47:49.080 I believe in, and Chris it's helped me from a memory here, 01:47:49.080 --> 01:47:52.080 but I think that gets essentially almost 100% 01:47:52.080 --> 01:47:54.437 of our green cross customers. 01:47:54.437 --> 01:47:55.270 Yeah. 01:47:55.270 --> 01:47:56.546 Yes, Commissioner 01:47:56.546 --> 01:48:00.560 right now we have registered 258 medical baseline customers. 01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:03.270 So the program would cover all the, that would, 01:48:03.270 --> 01:48:05.890 they would receive first priority of the batteries 01:48:05.890 --> 01:48:07.890 our medical baseline customers. 01:48:07.890 --> 01:48:10.590 And then the balance of the batteries, then we would, 01:48:10.590 --> 01:48:13.550 we would look to deploy, 01:48:13.550 --> 01:48:16.300 as Travis said to critical facilities 01:48:16.300 --> 01:48:19.540 and then possibly some of our larger customers. 01:48:19.540 --> 01:48:22.583 We see this as a very exciting program, actually. 01:48:24.070 --> 01:48:24.903 Okay. I was-- 01:48:24.903 --> 01:48:27.610 It's also something that helps us in the winter months too 01:48:27.610 --> 01:48:31.820 where we have outages the medical medical baseline customers 01:48:31.820 --> 01:48:32.780 will be protected 01:48:32.780 --> 01:48:35.470 because they will have of these batteries in place. 01:48:35.470 --> 01:48:37.422 I excuse me for interrupting you. 01:48:37.422 --> 01:48:38.810 No, no, that's okay, Chris. 01:48:38.810 --> 01:48:42.170 I will, of course look carefully at what you submit to us. 01:48:42.170 --> 01:48:46.310 I would just say that some of the backup power, 01:48:46.310 --> 01:48:47.930 the batteries that the utilities 01:48:47.930 --> 01:48:50.130 other utilities have been providing 01:48:50.130 --> 01:48:52.610 to provide backup service. 01:48:52.610 --> 01:48:56.300 In some cases they're easily able to be also used 01:48:57.168 --> 01:49:01.270 for demand reduction and demand management purposes 01:49:01.270 --> 01:49:03.370 and other cases, purposes diverge. 01:49:03.370 --> 01:49:07.040 So it's a little bit tricky and we just wanna make, 01:49:07.040 --> 01:49:09.730 in this context, we're most interested in seeing them 01:49:09.730 --> 01:49:13.840 use to provide the backup power needed to critical times. 01:49:13.840 --> 01:49:16.442 I'm sure you've thought a great deal about that, 01:49:16.442 --> 01:49:18.092 but I just wanna underscore that. 01:49:19.138 --> 01:49:21.500 That's a great point Commissioner, 01:49:21.500 --> 01:49:25.860 certainly inbound storm dispatching that energy 01:49:25.860 --> 01:49:28.883 to take care of the demand charge for the month is not, 01:49:30.380 --> 01:49:32.130 is not the way we've planned to do that. 01:49:32.130 --> 01:49:37.130 Or certainly with impending PSPS conditions. 01:49:37.210 --> 01:49:38.043 Absolutely not. 01:49:38.043 --> 01:49:40.360 So a very point well-taken. 01:49:40.360 --> 01:49:42.930 I just wanted to point out one other component. 01:49:42.930 --> 01:49:45.317 Before I moved to the second tier 01:49:45.317 --> 01:49:46.620 of this resiliency program. 01:49:46.620 --> 01:49:48.300 For low-income customers 01:49:48.300 --> 01:49:50.370 they would actually receive that service, 01:49:50.370 --> 01:49:52.060 the medical baseline low-income 01:49:52.060 --> 01:49:54.320 they would receive the service for free. 01:49:54.320 --> 01:49:55.610 And the way we've designed it 01:49:55.610 --> 01:49:57.560 as part of the demand charge savings 01:49:57.560 --> 01:49:59.400 would help fund that portion. 01:49:59.400 --> 01:50:02.350 So look forward to getting that application together, 01:50:02.350 --> 01:50:06.203 to provide much more detail, but we are excited about that. 01:50:07.742 --> 01:50:10.630 Chris and Travis, I hate to interrupt 01:50:10.630 --> 01:50:13.323 'cause we're in a really critical time, 01:50:13.323 --> 01:50:15.900 but we are hopelessly behind schedule today, 01:50:15.900 --> 01:50:17.587 and it's not your fault. 01:50:17.587 --> 01:50:21.840 These have been robust, important discussions that we have 01:50:21.840 --> 01:50:25.180 with you as well as with Pacific Corp, 01:50:25.180 --> 01:50:27.610 but we're almost an hour behind. 01:50:27.610 --> 01:50:30.110 So I hate to do this to you, 01:50:30.110 --> 01:50:32.440 but we're gonna need to sort of wrap up 01:50:32.440 --> 01:50:35.410 and I know you've got some important things in front of us 01:50:35.410 --> 01:50:36.433 in your slide deck, 01:50:37.340 --> 01:50:41.870 and I hate to, particularly as your AFN discussions, 01:50:41.870 --> 01:50:44.310 because that's critically important to all of us. 01:50:44.310 --> 01:50:46.040 Just wanna say one last thing. 01:50:46.040 --> 01:50:49.950 It seems like your AFN community I'm from Northern Nevada. 01:50:49.950 --> 01:50:52.040 I know your territory extremely well. 01:50:52.040 --> 01:50:54.160 I grew up in Carson City, Nevada, 01:50:54.160 --> 01:50:56.740 and my family was from Smith Valley. 01:50:56.740 --> 01:51:00.330 So I know your backyard really well, 01:51:00.330 --> 01:51:02.240 but I can't believe 01:51:02.240 --> 01:51:05.822 that you have so few medical baseline folks signed up. 01:51:05.822 --> 01:51:08.520 So it just, that seems like a very small number. 01:51:08.520 --> 01:51:09.740 I know you're working hard on it, 01:51:09.740 --> 01:51:11.940 but it seems like a very, very small number. 01:51:13.950 --> 01:51:17.490 Yeah, well, hopefully we're gonna get better at this 01:51:17.490 --> 01:51:21.000 and we are committed and focused on identification 01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:25.680 and registration and the next time we get together, 01:51:25.680 --> 01:51:28.000 hopefully we'll have better, better results 01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:31.574 and better, better numbers for you as well, 01:51:31.574 --> 01:51:33.460 President Batjer. 01:51:33.460 --> 01:51:35.230 Yeah, I look forward to that 01:51:35.230 --> 01:51:38.560 and I know that my fellow Commissioners do as well. 01:51:38.560 --> 01:51:39.760 Okay. 01:51:39.760 --> 01:51:42.540 So we hear you on the time crunch here. 01:51:42.540 --> 01:51:46.480 So I'm gonna go ahead and turn it over and to Elliot. 01:51:46.480 --> 01:51:49.490 Elliot, can you quickly walk them through 01:51:49.490 --> 01:51:52.950 our PSPS decision-making matrix 01:51:52.950 --> 01:51:55.080 and then we'll see how much time is left. 01:51:55.080 --> 01:51:57.390 I think this is critical for the Commissioners 01:51:57.390 --> 01:51:59.373 and our state agency representatives 01:51:59.373 --> 01:52:02.100 to understand how we do this. 01:52:02.100 --> 01:52:05.253 So we'll go ahead and please advance to the next slide. 01:52:07.489 --> 01:52:10.360 Thank you, Chris. 01:52:10.360 --> 01:52:15.290 And I will do my best to provide the information 01:52:15.290 --> 01:52:19.206 as accurately as possible and as abbreviated as possible 01:52:19.206 --> 01:52:21.363 if I can here. 01:52:21.363 --> 01:52:23.970 So what's we're gonna move into 01:52:24.926 --> 01:52:28.220 is our PSPS decision making criteria and modeling 01:52:28.220 --> 01:52:31.721 as discussed before we have not activated 01:52:31.721 --> 01:52:32.837 at public safety power shutoff, 01:52:32.837 --> 01:52:35.500 that we've put a lot of effort into our preparedness 01:52:35.500 --> 01:52:37.313 in the event that we do have one. 01:52:38.220 --> 01:52:39.713 It really is a last resort. 01:52:41.167 --> 01:52:43.720 And so the decision tree that you see here 01:52:43.720 --> 01:52:47.450 is sort of our criteria 01:52:47.450 --> 01:52:49.780 should note that we've broken down our territory 01:52:49.780 --> 01:52:52.850 into 46 PSPS zones 01:52:52.850 --> 01:52:55.722 that would each receive an individual forecast, 01:52:55.722 --> 01:52:59.563 looking at these factors that you see here on this screen. 01:53:00.830 --> 01:53:03.463 The first one, there being energy release component. 01:53:04.490 --> 01:53:07.190 And without going into too much detail, 01:53:07.190 --> 01:53:09.913 that's a measure of vegetation flammability. 01:53:11.470 --> 01:53:15.600 You know, when, when conditions are beyond our threshold, 01:53:15.600 --> 01:53:16.830 we're monitoring that. 01:53:16.830 --> 01:53:19.663 And then moving into monitoring wind speeds, 01:53:20.570 --> 01:53:23.572 where over 40 miles an hour is what our analysis 01:53:23.572 --> 01:53:28.135 shows is sort of an exponential increase 01:53:28.135 --> 01:53:32.070 in outages beyond 40 miles per hour. 01:53:32.070 --> 01:53:34.400 So that's another one of our factors. 01:53:34.400 --> 01:53:37.940 And then the other one is mentioned earlier by Pacific Corp 01:53:37.940 --> 01:53:40.410 as the (indistinct) fire weather index, 01:53:40.410 --> 01:53:43.563 looking at temperature, wind, and relative humidity. 01:53:45.151 --> 01:53:49.140 So really we were looking at forecast every six hours 01:53:49.140 --> 01:53:53.240 for all of those 46 zones and evaluating these factors. 01:53:53.240 --> 01:53:56.460 And we have the ability to make a decision 01:53:56.460 --> 01:53:59.850 within any one of those zones around PSPS. 01:54:03.020 --> 01:54:05.163 I will go to the next slide now. 01:54:07.960 --> 01:54:10.870 So just wanted to note with this one, 01:54:10.870 --> 01:54:12.610 that we're always looking for ways 01:54:12.610 --> 01:54:14.240 that we can improve our decision-making 01:54:14.240 --> 01:54:16.376 and our situational awareness. 01:54:16.376 --> 01:54:20.700 And so this is sort of a new decision-making criteria 01:54:20.700 --> 01:54:22.923 that we are evaluating right now, 01:54:24.160 --> 01:54:27.600 sort of in parallel to our distinct criteria. 01:54:27.600 --> 01:54:32.430 And so this one utilizes wind speed and burning indexes. 01:54:32.430 --> 01:54:34.323 Our key decision making factors. 01:54:35.630 --> 01:54:39.480 Burning index or BI is really a combination of 01:54:39.480 --> 01:54:41.700 how fast the fire will spread. 01:54:41.700 --> 01:54:45.660 And also the flammability of the vegetation, 01:54:45.660 --> 01:54:47.683 which is the energy release component. 01:54:48.791 --> 01:54:51.610 So really it's a measure of flame length 01:54:51.610 --> 01:54:54.255 and flame lengths above eight feet 01:54:54.255 --> 01:54:57.100 can present serious control problems and firefighting effort 01:54:57.100 --> 01:55:00.450 that the head of the firewall likely be unsuccessful 01:55:00.450 --> 01:55:03.560 from what our analysis has shown in the past. 01:55:03.560 --> 01:55:07.363 And so really the idea here is to capture, 01:55:08.570 --> 01:55:10.570 extreme wind driven events 01:55:12.617 --> 01:55:17.360 that our other criteria may or may not catch 01:55:17.360 --> 01:55:19.550 in the same manner sort of in the late season 01:55:19.550 --> 01:55:21.083 or maybe even early season. 01:55:22.208 --> 01:55:24.270 So like I said, we are evaluating, 01:55:24.270 --> 01:55:26.220 this is just one more factor, 01:55:26.220 --> 01:55:29.410 one more tool in the tool box that we're looking at 01:55:29.410 --> 01:55:33.300 when we are evaluating the extreme fire conditions. 01:55:33.300 --> 01:55:36.460 And then also combining that with, as Chris mentioned, 01:55:36.460 --> 01:55:40.290 our proactive patrols during elevated weather events, 01:55:40.290 --> 01:55:44.130 taking those field observations from our line crew, 01:55:44.130 --> 01:55:46.520 the staff that are out there inspecting lines, 01:55:46.520 --> 01:55:50.240 and just as a way to continue to learn 01:55:50.240 --> 01:55:51.990 from these elevated weather events. 01:55:53.349 --> 01:55:55.550 (mumbles) Next slide, please. 01:55:57.724 --> 01:55:59.307 Is there a comment? 01:55:59.307 --> 01:56:00.820 Can I just make a comment? 01:56:00.820 --> 01:56:05.190 And this is a comment to the other small I'll use. 01:56:05.190 --> 01:56:06.970 I should've made it to Pacific Corp as well. 01:56:06.970 --> 01:56:09.520 I don't know, were you able to listen to the presentations 01:56:09.520 --> 01:56:11.770 the past couple of days from the larger IOUs? 01:56:13.550 --> 01:56:15.613 I was able to listen to 01:56:15.613 --> 01:56:17.430 the San Diego Gas&Electric. 01:56:17.430 --> 01:56:18.450 So I haven't had a chance 01:56:18.450 --> 01:56:21.220 to catch up on the other two yesterday. 01:56:21.220 --> 01:56:22.900 I just wanted to make a point 01:56:22.900 --> 01:56:24.770 and we can follow up offline 01:56:24.770 --> 01:56:26.090 as I'm sure you will know. 01:56:26.090 --> 01:56:28.180 They have increasingly sophisticated 01:56:28.180 --> 01:56:33.180 machine learning methodology for evaluating 01:56:33.830 --> 01:56:36.260 the potential of admissions spread and so forth. 01:56:36.260 --> 01:56:40.291 And I think that I don't think they're proprietary. 01:56:40.291 --> 01:56:42.570 I don't know how if you have the capability 01:56:42.570 --> 01:56:45.080 to use all of them with the most recent iteration, 01:56:45.080 --> 01:56:47.150 but they keep improving them. 01:56:47.150 --> 01:56:50.514 And we've heard from PGE about a probabilistic weather 01:56:50.514 --> 01:56:55.120 tool that they're now adding to their fire potential index. 01:56:55.120 --> 01:56:58.940 I would just urge you in Pacific Corp and Bear Valley 01:56:58.940 --> 01:57:01.236 and others to see what you can borrow 01:57:01.236 --> 01:57:03.380 from those technologies. 01:57:03.380 --> 01:57:05.900 Because as I say, I don't think that 01:57:05.900 --> 01:57:06.980 they're all proprietary. 01:57:06.980 --> 01:57:09.310 I think they've been sharing those 01:57:09.310 --> 01:57:10.190 and you could benefit 01:57:10.190 --> 01:57:13.183 from the increasingly sophisticated tools they're using. 01:57:15.160 --> 01:57:17.866 Thank you for that Commissioner. 01:57:17.866 --> 01:57:20.834 Well, definitely something we're monitoring 01:57:20.834 --> 01:57:25.348 and we're always looking to learn and improve. 01:57:25.348 --> 01:57:28.850 So definitely noted and we will key in 01:57:28.850 --> 01:57:31.807 on some of those factors that the large utilities 01:57:31.807 --> 01:57:32.850 are looking into. 01:57:32.850 --> 01:57:33.870 So thank you. 01:57:33.870 --> 01:57:34.703 Thank you. 01:57:34.703 --> 01:57:37.760 I do know, I do know that indeed they will share. 01:57:37.760 --> 01:57:41.138 I've asked San Diego's SDG 01:57:41.138 --> 01:57:42.940 and you had asked that question specifically of them 01:57:42.940 --> 01:57:44.950 they'll even share algorithms 01:57:44.950 --> 01:57:46.820 that they've developed, et cetera. 01:57:46.820 --> 01:57:49.440 So I think a meeting with them 01:57:49.440 --> 01:57:51.684 would be very, very helpful to. 01:57:51.684 --> 01:57:53.450 Excellent. 01:57:53.450 --> 01:57:54.283 Yeah. Thank you. 01:57:54.283 --> 01:57:55.513 Again, I'm watching the clock 01:57:55.513 --> 01:57:58.330 it's getting really nervous, everybody. (laughs) 01:57:58.330 --> 01:58:01.410 You know what, Elliot, I'll wrap up here. 01:58:01.410 --> 01:58:04.190 Let me do the vegetation threat real quick for you. 01:58:04.190 --> 01:58:08.160 So basically what this slide shows is is that five years ago 01:58:08.160 --> 01:58:13.160 we were working about for about 3,500 trees a year, 01:58:14.234 --> 01:58:16.150 fast forward to 2020. 01:58:16.150 --> 01:58:19.240 We're now working in excess of 13,000 trees a year 01:58:19.240 --> 01:58:21.310 by working at is that's either training 01:58:21.310 --> 01:58:23.670 or removing a dead dying tree. 01:58:23.670 --> 01:58:26.170 So we nip it currently wrapped up 01:58:26.170 --> 01:58:28.360 our vegetation management program, 01:58:28.360 --> 01:58:31.530 and this is really proving some good results for us. 01:58:31.530 --> 01:58:34.407 Last winter season for the first time 01:58:34.407 --> 01:58:37.450 we saw a significant decrease in outages, 01:58:37.450 --> 01:58:41.010 which we attribute to our vegetation management program 01:58:41.010 --> 01:58:42.730 clearing out those dead and dying trees, 01:58:42.730 --> 01:58:45.850 which are being loaded with snow and falling on our lines. 01:58:45.850 --> 01:58:48.290 And with that Commissioner, we have a couple other slides, 01:58:48.290 --> 01:58:50.460 but we'd be more than happy later on to follow up 01:58:50.460 --> 01:58:52.860 with the fifth, the Commissioners or staff 01:58:52.860 --> 01:58:54.390 for additional questions. 01:58:54.390 --> 01:58:56.673 We appreciate the opportunity to be here today 01:58:56.673 --> 01:58:59.900 and share with you what we're doing in Lake Tahoe 01:58:59.900 --> 01:59:01.660 to keep the customer safe 01:59:01.660 --> 01:59:04.850 and try to do our best at mitigating the wildfire risks 01:59:04.850 --> 01:59:07.984 that poses to our customers. 01:59:07.984 --> 01:59:09.193 Thank you very much. 01:59:31.341 --> 01:59:35.180 President Batjer might be on mute. 01:59:35.180 --> 01:59:36.556 Oh gosh. I'm so sorry. 01:59:36.556 --> 01:59:38.440 I was on mute. 01:59:38.440 --> 01:59:41.563 Thank you, Chris and team very, very much. 01:59:42.495 --> 01:59:45.510 The last two slides are extremely important to us, 01:59:45.510 --> 01:59:49.640 the information as well as to the public. 01:59:49.640 --> 01:59:52.040 So I'm sorry to truncate this. 01:59:52.040 --> 01:59:54.520 I have already sent a note to Rachel Peterson, 01:59:54.520 --> 01:59:56.160 our executive director, 01:59:56.160 --> 01:59:57.710 and talking to her about 01:59:57.710 --> 02:00:00.110 how we can do a follow-up meeting with you 02:00:00.110 --> 02:00:03.530 to make sure that we complete this presentation 02:00:03.530 --> 02:00:06.560 and that the Commissioners and the virtual guys 02:00:08.160 --> 02:00:10.663 all get their questions asked and answered, 02:00:12.356 --> 02:00:13.189 and that we don't, again, 02:00:13.189 --> 02:00:15.947 miss out on any important information that we need to, 02:00:15.947 --> 02:00:19.240 you need to impart and we need to hear, so-- 02:00:19.240 --> 02:00:20.870 We'll make ourselves available. 02:00:20.870 --> 02:00:22.580 Okay. Thank you so much. 02:00:22.580 --> 02:00:25.310 And I really appreciate your presentation. 02:00:25.310 --> 02:00:29.500 You've got your hands full in your territory with wildfires, 02:00:29.500 --> 02:00:34.500 earthquakes and sorry, laptop is a big snow here.(giggles) 02:00:35.786 --> 02:00:37.840 Thank you everyone. 02:00:37.840 --> 02:00:39.120 All right. Thank you so much. 02:00:39.120 --> 02:00:41.644 Thank you all very much. Thank you, Liberty. 02:00:41.644 --> 02:00:43.520 Okay. 02:00:43.520 --> 02:00:46.640 We are hopelessly behind. As I have said, 02:00:46.640 --> 02:00:48.890 I'm going to ask Liberty, excuse me. 02:00:48.890 --> 02:00:53.200 I'm gonna ask Bear Valley to please come on board. 02:00:53.200 --> 02:00:56.600 I see that you're here and I'm going to ask again, 02:00:56.600 --> 02:01:00.470 just as I said to Liberty, we are hopelessly behind 02:01:00.470 --> 02:01:02.430 and I see through your deck 02:01:02.430 --> 02:01:04.630 that you've got quite a few slides. 02:01:04.630 --> 02:01:09.630 If there's any way that you can somehow summarize, 02:01:10.160 --> 02:01:12.830 some of it would be very, very helpful, 02:01:12.830 --> 02:01:16.700 and it will, it may mean that we have to do a reschedule, 02:01:16.700 --> 02:01:19.430 so we don't miss anything today. 02:01:19.430 --> 02:01:23.540 But with that, I would like to have Bear Valley, 02:01:23.540 --> 02:01:25.680 go ahead and begin the presentation 02:01:25.680 --> 02:01:28.953 by introducing yourself and the team. 02:01:29.974 --> 02:01:32.001 President Batjer, Commissioners, 02:01:32.001 --> 02:01:34.340 and other agency officials. 02:01:34.340 --> 02:01:37.530 I'm Paul Marconi president of Bear Valley. 02:01:37.530 --> 02:01:39.610 I'll be giving this presentation solo, 02:01:39.610 --> 02:01:42.283 but there is quite a team effort behind this. 02:01:43.410 --> 02:01:45.193 If we could go to the next slide. 02:01:47.760 --> 02:01:51.380 Basically, you're gonna follow the agenda that was provided. 02:01:51.380 --> 02:01:53.103 Let me go to the next slide. 02:01:56.250 --> 02:01:58.230 We're located in San Bernardino mountains. 02:01:58.230 --> 02:02:01.113 We're a small service area, 32 square miles. 02:02:02.078 --> 02:02:06.114 We're mostly at or above 7,000 feet. 02:02:06.114 --> 02:02:08.370 We're in a dry environment. 02:02:08.370 --> 02:02:11.740 We're in the high fire threat district entirely 02:02:11.740 --> 02:02:15.833 90% is tier two, 10% is tier one. 02:02:17.500 --> 02:02:22.500 As of today, we're actually 805 days accident free. 02:02:24.350 --> 02:02:26.323 And we're very proud of that. 02:02:27.378 --> 02:02:30.450 And safety is obviously our number one priority. 02:02:30.450 --> 02:02:31.773 Go to the next slide. 02:02:35.260 --> 02:02:38.330 One of the things that president touched upon this, 02:02:38.330 --> 02:02:41.423 we are definitely very much impacted by Southern California 02:02:41.423 --> 02:02:44.890 and so the most important takeaway from this slide 02:02:44.890 --> 02:02:48.360 is actually the graphic, the red lines show Edison's lines 02:02:48.360 --> 02:02:50.410 that come into Bear Valley. 02:02:50.410 --> 02:02:54.670 There's two from the north, which is our main supply lines 02:02:54.670 --> 02:02:56.483 and the small line from the south, 02:02:59.112 --> 02:03:02.175 which that line mates up with one of our lines, 02:03:02.175 --> 02:03:05.310 the Radford that's all in tier three area. 02:03:05.310 --> 02:03:07.110 Generally we can de-energized 02:03:07.110 --> 02:03:10.343 during the high fire threat periods. 02:03:13.300 --> 02:03:14.903 Go to the next slide. 02:03:17.940 --> 02:03:22.940 This is the third season we've been preparing for PSPS. 02:03:24.920 --> 02:03:29.300 We've never involved one, but we've been very much out there 02:03:29.300 --> 02:03:34.300 following what everybody else is doing and trying to learn. 02:03:34.490 --> 02:03:39.000 And outreach has been probably the most important thing, 02:03:39.000 --> 02:03:42.283 trying to prepare our community without scaring them. 02:03:44.050 --> 02:03:47.170 And I think we have a very supportive community. 02:03:47.170 --> 02:03:49.940 We've worked on the language piece 02:03:49.940 --> 02:03:53.740 right now we can do real time in English and Spanish. 02:03:53.740 --> 02:03:57.110 We do have co-care materials in all the languages 02:03:57.110 --> 02:04:01.320 that Commissioner guidelines require, 02:04:01.320 --> 02:04:04.690 but we would like to get to real time in those as well. 02:04:04.690 --> 02:04:07.830 We've implemented two way emergency text communications 02:04:07.830 --> 02:04:09.093 and our IVR, 02:04:10.537 --> 02:04:14.180 and we continue to further improve our communications 02:04:14.180 --> 02:04:15.080 and outreach 02:04:16.200 --> 02:04:21.025 and we'll get to access and functional needs customers. 02:04:21.025 --> 02:04:22.860 We've been working with the county and city. 02:04:22.860 --> 02:04:25.980 In fact, yesterday I reached agreement with the city manager 02:04:25.980 --> 02:04:27.500 on a confidentiality agreement 02:04:27.500 --> 02:04:31.093 so that we can share some of our customer information. 02:04:32.690 --> 02:04:36.810 And not just for PSPS, but for emergencies and disasters. 02:04:36.810 --> 02:04:37.853 It makes sense. 02:04:39.170 --> 02:04:42.800 We are constantly updating critical customer lists 02:04:44.020 --> 02:04:46.163 and provide that to our field operations. 02:04:48.010 --> 02:04:50.358 There are no questions on this particular slide. 02:04:50.358 --> 02:04:53.108 I'd like to go to the next one in the interest of time. 02:04:56.766 --> 02:04:59.360 So we have not that's to the PSPS, 02:04:59.360 --> 02:05:01.970 so we don't have any direct experience. 02:05:01.970 --> 02:05:06.103 So our lessons learned are derived from two PSPS drills. 02:05:07.400 --> 02:05:10.613 Now, while the last one was a tabletop, 02:05:11.480 --> 02:05:16.480 we did send people out to the field to do inspections. 02:05:16.620 --> 02:05:18.100 We did exercise that component. 02:05:18.100 --> 02:05:21.660 We did exercise our CRC and actually set it up 02:05:21.660 --> 02:05:23.860 and verify it with function. 02:05:23.860 --> 02:05:26.480 We did actually deploy people with batteries 02:05:27.622 --> 02:05:29.893 to addresses, to simulate. 02:05:29.893 --> 02:05:30.980 We were delivering batteries. 02:05:30.980 --> 02:05:33.440 So we did try to do as much as we could 02:05:34.610 --> 02:05:35.920 because you really never know 02:05:35.920 --> 02:05:39.333 until you actually do something, how it's actually gonna go. 02:05:41.760 --> 02:05:46.760 We have a PSPS manual that we've updated now once. 02:05:46.890 --> 02:05:48.663 And we did go through that and make sure 02:05:48.663 --> 02:05:51.033 that we followed everything in our manual. 02:05:52.380 --> 02:05:54.960 We have learned a lot from these workshops 02:05:54.960 --> 02:05:56.680 prior to this workshop, 02:05:56.680 --> 02:05:59.600 this year alone, we're two other workshops. 02:05:59.600 --> 02:06:02.420 We've looked at the public surveys 02:06:02.420 --> 02:06:04.140 and we've got the feedback 02:06:05.140 --> 02:06:08.573 from our community and stakeholder meetings. 02:06:11.060 --> 02:06:12.770 And we incorporate our lessons learned 02:06:12.770 --> 02:06:14.950 in our manual updates. 02:06:14.950 --> 02:06:16.333 We'd go to the next slide. 02:06:22.805 --> 02:06:24.910 So we did, these are the, 02:06:24.910 --> 02:06:27.270 we have four telecommunications providers 02:06:27.270 --> 02:06:28.360 in our service area. 02:06:28.360 --> 02:06:32.623 We establish points of contact, primary, secondary tertiary. 02:06:34.828 --> 02:06:37.930 We've listed all of their facilities 02:06:37.930 --> 02:06:40.770 and we're in the process of validating, 02:06:40.770 --> 02:06:43.323 which ones have backup power, which ones don't. 02:06:44.280 --> 02:06:47.180 And we do have a schedule brief 02:06:47.180 --> 02:06:51.140 at the end of August, early September. 02:06:51.140 --> 02:06:52.810 We're scheduling a brief for them, 02:06:52.810 --> 02:06:55.350 just specifically to the telecommunications. 02:06:55.350 --> 02:06:59.340 They've been invited to all of our partner briefs 02:06:59.340 --> 02:07:01.180 and community briefs, 02:07:01.180 --> 02:07:04.726 but this time I think we're getting a much better response 02:07:04.726 --> 02:07:07.897 from them to make sure they're included 02:07:07.897 --> 02:07:09.853 and we can talk to them directly. 02:07:12.920 --> 02:07:14.190 Go to the next slide, 02:07:14.190 --> 02:07:16.340 unless there are any questions on this one. 02:07:18.670 --> 02:07:23.140 Two, we don't have any tribal areas, but we do our, 02:07:23.140 --> 02:07:28.140 our main jurisdictions are the county of San Bernardino 02:07:28.850 --> 02:07:30.200 and the City of Big Bear Lake. 02:07:30.200 --> 02:07:32.343 And then we have the US Forest Service. 02:07:34.688 --> 02:07:37.850 We in fact, I briefed the city council 02:07:37.850 --> 02:07:41.793 and talked to our district supervisor. 02:07:43.560 --> 02:07:47.540 We did do annual PSPS meetings for our stakeholders 02:07:47.540 --> 02:07:49.502 and communities. 02:07:49.502 --> 02:07:51.640 I personally give those meetings 02:07:53.128 --> 02:07:55.005 and we're gonna do another round. 02:07:55.005 --> 02:07:57.510 We did them in June and we're gonna do another round 02:07:57.510 --> 02:08:01.263 of them in early September as well. 02:08:04.280 --> 02:08:07.643 We update our notification channels, 02:08:09.040 --> 02:08:12.337 points of contact and so forth. 02:08:12.337 --> 02:08:14.087 And we test that out. 02:08:15.456 --> 02:08:16.790 One of the challenges, 02:08:16.790 --> 02:08:19.700 even if we're not gonna invoke a PSPS, 02:08:19.700 --> 02:08:23.993 because we're in the Los Angeles media market, 02:08:25.680 --> 02:08:28.917 our customers hear about the Southern California Edison 02:08:28.917 --> 02:08:32.620 and PSPS warnings, and often get confused. 02:08:32.620 --> 02:08:37.620 And so we do have to do a lot manage that news, 02:08:39.350 --> 02:08:42.937 especially with our local government partners 02:08:42.937 --> 02:08:46.230 and first responders to make sure they understand 02:08:46.230 --> 02:08:49.010 whether or not we're going to be impacted 02:08:49.010 --> 02:08:51.670 and how they might be impacted. 02:08:51.670 --> 02:08:54.160 So we do quite a bit of that outreach 02:08:54.160 --> 02:08:55.920 and that tests the very same channels 02:08:55.920 --> 02:08:58.693 that we would use if we were invoking a PSPS. 02:09:00.700 --> 02:09:05.090 We closely work with the mountain mutual aid association, 02:09:05.090 --> 02:09:10.090 which is a group of utilities, government agencies. 02:09:10.620 --> 02:09:15.620 I'm actually the president and a lot of NGOs. 02:09:15.820 --> 02:09:19.810 And it's our way that we would respond to any disaster 02:09:19.810 --> 02:09:21.490 or emergency in the Valley. 02:09:21.490 --> 02:09:25.430 But I also take that opportunity to keep them informed 02:09:25.430 --> 02:09:30.190 on how PSPS would work and how that would impact 02:09:31.400 --> 02:09:36.400 and how we can work together to mitigate the impact. 02:09:38.078 --> 02:09:41.060 One thing I took on this year 02:09:41.060 --> 02:09:46.060 is to establish Fire Safe Big Bear Council. 02:09:46.260 --> 02:09:51.260 It's a community group that takes up education of wildfire, 02:09:54.980 --> 02:09:58.200 works with Cal Fire and the fire departments 02:09:58.200 --> 02:10:02.150 and helps the community be involved in fire prevention 02:10:02.150 --> 02:10:06.010 or fire wildfire readiness, both of those things. 02:10:06.010 --> 02:10:09.070 And so it's a very good nonprofit group. 02:10:09.070 --> 02:10:12.333 It's a great way for us to get our message out, I feel. 02:10:13.480 --> 02:10:16.920 And so it's something I put suit. 02:10:16.920 --> 02:10:18.663 If we could go to the next slide. 02:10:23.008 --> 02:10:25.130 So as I said, we're entirely 02:10:25.130 --> 02:10:27.410 within the high fire threat district. 02:10:27.410 --> 02:10:30.003 It's a reality of our lives here. 02:10:31.260 --> 02:10:36.260 By the way, my entire staff has to live in the service area. 02:10:38.130 --> 02:10:40.030 It's a requirement. 02:10:40.030 --> 02:10:42.003 So we're very much invested in this. 02:10:43.310 --> 02:10:46.208 And those shaded areas 02:10:46.208 --> 02:10:49.750 are areas that we consider higher risk areas. 02:10:49.750 --> 02:10:51.560 And we think they're more likely 02:10:51.560 --> 02:10:53.723 if we were to invoke a PSPS. 02:10:54.880 --> 02:10:58.930 And so we did early on (indistinct) those areas 02:10:58.930 --> 02:11:01.630 have the ability to isolate them 02:11:01.630 --> 02:11:03.840 without impacting other customers. 02:11:03.840 --> 02:11:06.500 And then we actually have the impact 02:11:06.500 --> 02:11:10.060 on how many customers would be impacted by those. 02:11:10.060 --> 02:11:14.380 We also have the ability to contact those customers 02:11:14.380 --> 02:11:16.630 if we actuate those particular switches 02:11:18.420 --> 02:11:22.033 and we would use IVR messaging, text messaging as well. 02:11:24.700 --> 02:11:27.550 Is there any questions on that one now go to next. 02:11:32.623 --> 02:11:34.230 I don't wanna, 02:11:34.230 --> 02:11:37.170 we're doing a lot of the same grid hardening projects 02:11:37.170 --> 02:11:38.690 that the other utilities are doing. 02:11:38.690 --> 02:11:41.790 So I won't go into detail explaining them, 02:11:41.790 --> 02:11:43.810 but I will say that we completed 02:11:43.810 --> 02:11:45.540 our weather station installation 02:11:45.540 --> 02:11:48.030 we've got 20 weather stations. 02:11:48.030 --> 02:11:51.300 That's about 0.6 weather stations per square mile. 02:11:51.300 --> 02:11:52.540 Okay. 02:11:52.540 --> 02:11:54.810 So we are really learned a lot too 02:11:54.810 --> 02:11:58.220 about how we have micro climates up here 02:11:58.220 --> 02:12:02.090 and it can have Highlands on one end of the, 02:12:02.090 --> 02:12:06.520 of our 10 mile wide area and low winds on the other end. 02:12:06.520 --> 02:12:10.480 So it's kind of interesting, but we've done that. 02:12:10.480 --> 02:12:15.480 We worked very closely with Dr. Driscoll over it. 02:12:15.540 --> 02:12:19.610 You would see installing alert wildfire. 02:12:19.610 --> 02:12:22.200 High definition cameras. 02:12:22.200 --> 02:12:24.550 We have one more to install. 02:12:24.550 --> 02:12:26.860 It's a fun, a local radio station. 02:12:26.860 --> 02:12:29.270 And we've got agreement from the radio station owner 02:12:29.270 --> 02:12:30.103 to do that. 02:12:31.130 --> 02:12:33.490 So really we're just playing coordinator 02:12:33.490 --> 02:12:36.710 between UCSD and the radio station. 02:12:36.710 --> 02:12:40.533 And then we provide some labor to make that happen. 02:12:41.890 --> 02:12:45.690 We, in early when we completed the removal 02:12:45.690 --> 02:12:48.740 of all expulsion fuses conventional pieces 02:12:48.740 --> 02:12:51.213 from our system over 3000. 02:12:52.300 --> 02:12:54.173 So I'm pretty happy about that. 02:12:55.510 --> 02:12:57.960 We also implemented enhance this patient 02:12:59.767 --> 02:13:04.590 and that has been in place now since March of 2018. 02:13:06.180 --> 02:13:08.390 And we've gone through our entire service area 02:13:08.390 --> 02:13:10.430 to implement these specs. 02:13:10.430 --> 02:13:12.840 We do go above the minimum specifications. 02:13:12.840 --> 02:13:16.130 And I think later I have a graphic on best vegetation. 02:13:16.130 --> 02:13:19.173 I'll show you the, how, what a positive impact that has had. 02:13:20.010 --> 02:13:24.380 We are using technology like LiDAR to survey our system, 02:13:24.380 --> 02:13:25.853 and it's extremely useful. 02:13:26.890 --> 02:13:29.470 We also hire a third party. 02:13:29.470 --> 02:13:34.190 Although we do patrols, we also have hired a third party. 02:13:34.190 --> 02:13:36.063 Who's not involved in any other work, 02:13:37.417 --> 02:13:41.090 then inspection for us to do a second ground patrol 02:13:41.090 --> 02:13:44.870 of our systems so that we get an unbiased view 02:13:44.870 --> 02:13:46.213 of how we're doing. 02:13:47.965 --> 02:13:49.923 We can go to the next slide. 02:13:53.140 --> 02:13:55.340 These are things that are ongoing or in progress 02:13:55.340 --> 02:14:00.340 covered wire, replacing bare wire with covered wire. 02:14:00.761 --> 02:14:05.761 It's probably the most impactful thing that we can do. 02:14:07.140 --> 02:14:10.640 We've last year we got about seven circuit miles. 02:14:10.640 --> 02:14:14.650 And so far this year we're over six circuit miles. 02:14:14.650 --> 02:14:19.650 We're on track to get 12.9 circuit miles done this year. 02:14:21.840 --> 02:14:26.750 And I know there was a question about how would that impact 02:14:28.003 --> 02:14:30.814 your TSPs decision making. 02:14:30.814 --> 02:14:32.764 And when I get to that, I will explain, 02:14:33.708 --> 02:14:36.600 but I think personally it would be unlikely 02:14:36.600 --> 02:14:38.450 that we would invoke a PSPS 02:14:38.450 --> 02:14:40.978 once we have covered wire in place. 02:14:40.978 --> 02:14:43.374 And I'll explain the reasons when I get there. 02:14:43.374 --> 02:14:45.410 The Radford line project, 02:14:45.410 --> 02:14:49.713 this project is in the permitting process. 02:14:51.010 --> 02:14:52.510 It's a line that goes through, 02:14:54.890 --> 02:14:56.813 it's a 34,000 volt line that goes through the tier three. 02:14:59.698 --> 02:15:00.893 We're working with the fire, the US Forest Service. 02:15:02.107 --> 02:15:03.870 It's been a challenge to get it permitted, 02:15:03.870 --> 02:15:06.240 but right now we have mitigation in place 02:15:06.240 --> 02:15:09.070 that we generally keep it the energize 02:15:09.070 --> 02:15:11.744 on high fire threat periods. 02:15:11.744 --> 02:15:13.950 We don't really need it 02:15:13.950 --> 02:15:17.163 except for during the snow making period, 02:15:18.627 --> 02:15:20.380 which for the resorts 02:15:20.380 --> 02:15:23.530 and because those are interruptable customers. 02:15:23.530 --> 02:15:26.000 And generally we're not, we don't, 02:15:26.000 --> 02:15:28.860 I don't think I've ever seen high fire threat day 02:15:28.860 --> 02:15:33.383 when we're making snow (laughs) it's it doesn't impact us. 02:15:34.960 --> 02:15:38.120 We do have three attachments we've removed about, 02:15:38.120 --> 02:15:40.415 I would say almost 50% of them 02:15:40.415 --> 02:15:42.310 and we were making good progress. 02:15:42.310 --> 02:15:45.080 We have no high voltage tree attachments. 02:15:45.080 --> 02:15:46.530 Just be clear on that. 02:15:46.530 --> 02:15:51.530 It's service wire, generally service wires down 120 volts. 02:15:51.865 --> 02:15:53.315 (coughs) So it's low voltage. 02:15:55.280 --> 02:16:00.280 We have other projects that install the high-speed switches, 02:16:01.000 --> 02:16:03.470 fall protection equipment, so forth. 02:16:03.470 --> 02:16:08.470 We are using this year UADs to inspect our system. 02:16:10.320 --> 02:16:13.890 And we are monitoring projects such as solar generation 02:16:13.890 --> 02:16:16.883 and batteries to work projects either in planning. 02:16:18.360 --> 02:16:19.770 We could go to the next slide, 02:16:19.770 --> 02:16:22.670 unless there are any questions on specific grid hardening. 02:16:27.490 --> 02:16:29.010 Okay. 02:16:29.010 --> 02:16:34.010 This is scenario where we are trying to really improve. 02:16:35.530 --> 02:16:37.800 We have medical baseline customers, 02:16:37.800 --> 02:16:42.800 but we also have ASN customers in out of 24,600 meters. 02:16:44.430 --> 02:16:48.443 If think we'd have more than 14 AFN customers. 02:16:49.410 --> 02:16:51.990 So we're pushing that. 02:16:51.990 --> 02:16:54.680 I am requiring my customer service now, 02:16:54.680 --> 02:16:57.920 anytime someone calls to hire about AFN, 02:16:57.920 --> 02:17:01.470 to explain to them about what the program is, 02:17:01.470 --> 02:17:03.330 who qualifies as an AFN. 02:17:03.330 --> 02:17:05.990 I think even though we've done this via mail, 02:17:05.990 --> 02:17:08.430 our website or social media, 02:17:08.430 --> 02:17:12.864 I think we just need to be out front and just go after it. 02:17:12.864 --> 02:17:17.864 So when you call our customer service now they, 02:17:18.860 --> 02:17:21.170 that our customer service are instructed 02:17:22.173 --> 02:17:27.010 to make sure we have our folks are understanding of that, 02:17:27.010 --> 02:17:29.573 especially also with new applicants obviously. 02:17:32.162 --> 02:17:35.630 We are coordinating with CBOs in our area 02:17:35.630 --> 02:17:39.960 to identify and educate people on AFN 02:17:41.210 --> 02:17:43.103 and self-identification, 02:17:44.350 --> 02:17:48.083 and we're working with the City of Big Bear Lake as well. 02:17:50.410 --> 02:17:55.410 And as we are looking at the phase three decision 02:17:56.830 --> 02:18:00.640 and starting to put together our annual ASN plan 02:18:00.640 --> 02:18:03.157 in accordance with safe screening requirements. 02:18:07.737 --> 02:18:09.900 Is there any specific questions on that, 02:18:09.900 --> 02:18:11.803 like to go to the next slide? 02:18:13.780 --> 02:18:16.300 Well, Paul, I would agree that that seems 02:18:16.300 --> 02:18:19.366 like a very low number given your service territory. 02:18:19.366 --> 02:18:21.610 And I do hope you are, 02:18:21.610 --> 02:18:26.050 you can do as much as you possibly can do 02:18:26.050 --> 02:18:30.010 to really outreach to the community. 02:18:30.010 --> 02:18:34.334 And logic would tell you that that is that, 02:18:34.334 --> 02:18:37.640 that there must be more people in need 02:18:37.640 --> 02:18:41.203 than have an identified to date. 02:18:41.203 --> 02:18:45.280 So I would encourage you to continue doing all things, 02:18:45.280 --> 02:18:48.960 including what you're doing, plus. (laughs) 02:18:48.960 --> 02:18:49.793 Yes. 02:18:51.536 --> 02:18:54.037 And that'd be support vulnerable customers. 02:18:54.037 --> 02:18:58.410 You know, we are, we have a lot, 02:18:58.410 --> 02:18:59.557 a fair amount of snow every year. 02:18:59.557 --> 02:19:03.000 And so snore snow is more, it's our challenge. 02:19:03.000 --> 02:19:07.928 And we've had, since I've been here since 2014, 02:19:07.928 --> 02:19:10.353 some major snow storms, 02:19:11.450 --> 02:19:13.820 and we've worked very closely 02:19:13.820 --> 02:19:16.170 with the city county this year. 02:19:16.170 --> 02:19:19.240 So the fire department responding to these outages 02:19:19.240 --> 02:19:21.940 and we've always been able to get, 02:19:21.940 --> 02:19:24.580 do door to door service for our medical baseline 02:19:24.580 --> 02:19:26.740 in those situations. 02:19:26.740 --> 02:19:30.123 So I see why I can't do that in the PSPS event. 02:19:31.640 --> 02:19:36.640 We use everything. We is phone, IVR, the texting website, 02:19:38.800 --> 02:19:40.520 local radio station. 02:19:40.520 --> 02:19:43.720 We also go knock on doors, okay? 02:19:43.720 --> 02:19:47.780 We're that small that we can knock on doors. 02:19:47.780 --> 02:19:50.680 And we have other groups in the community 02:19:50.680 --> 02:19:53.913 that were willing to help us knock on doors when we have to. 02:19:55.533 --> 02:19:59.967 One of the things that always troubles me on PSPS, 02:19:59.967 --> 02:20:01.579 and maybe we can talk about this. 02:20:01.579 --> 02:20:04.600 And their decision making is, well, we haven't Santana winds 02:20:04.600 --> 02:20:08.240 at 7,000 feet and it's nighttime. 02:20:08.240 --> 02:20:12.063 It's about 18 degrees in a Big Bear. 02:20:13.120 --> 02:20:17.165 And so that to me is also a safety issue for my customers. 02:20:17.165 --> 02:20:20.022 So it's something that I factor in 02:20:20.022 --> 02:20:22.860 and we have to have the ability to reach 02:20:22.860 --> 02:20:25.350 and go out to our customers if we have to, 02:20:25.350 --> 02:20:29.290 if we did invoke the PSPS to get them 02:20:29.290 --> 02:20:31.482 the assistance they need, 02:20:31.482 --> 02:20:35.300 or get them to a place where they can be warm. 02:20:35.300 --> 02:20:37.413 So it's very important that we do that. 02:20:39.490 --> 02:20:41.260 We do have a community resource center 02:20:41.260 --> 02:20:43.113 that we set up at our main office. 02:20:44.080 --> 02:20:48.800 We are, and I'll talk more about those on a slide. 02:20:48.800 --> 02:20:50.890 And then once again, horrible batteries, 02:20:50.890 --> 02:20:53.933 we do need to learn more about how to deploy these. 02:20:54.980 --> 02:20:56.850 We did size the ones we bought 02:20:56.850 --> 02:21:00.690 so that you can charge a standard oxygen machine 02:21:01.537 --> 02:21:05.510 so that someone who's on oxygen can use that battery 02:21:05.510 --> 02:21:08.898 to get their oxygen recharged. 02:21:08.898 --> 02:21:11.660 And, and so we wanted to make sure that we didn't bias 02:21:13.398 --> 02:21:14.231 'cause there's a lot of batteries out there 02:21:16.165 --> 02:21:17.000 that can provide power, 02:21:17.000 --> 02:21:18.928 but they provide power the long-term, 02:21:18.928 --> 02:21:21.270 but they don't provide that surgeon power 02:21:21.270 --> 02:21:23.953 that's needed to actually charge an oxygen machine. 02:21:25.490 --> 02:21:27.350 And so we wanted to take a look-- 02:21:27.350 --> 02:21:28.300 Sorry to interrupt. 02:21:28.300 --> 02:21:33.210 But as Commissioner, Rick Shaw has said earlier, 02:21:33.210 --> 02:21:35.850 I think I'm not sure whether you were able 02:21:35.850 --> 02:21:40.327 to listen in on the other presentations by the large IOUs 02:21:40.327 --> 02:21:42.117 in the last couple of days, 02:21:42.117 --> 02:21:45.340 but I am sure that if you reached out to either San Diego, 02:21:45.340 --> 02:21:47.300 Gas&Electric or Edison, 02:21:47.300 --> 02:21:50.010 they have quite a bit of experience 02:21:50.010 --> 02:21:54.220 with purchasing batteries of all sizes and types, 02:21:54.220 --> 02:21:59.220 as well as educating their customers as to how to use them. 02:22:00.630 --> 02:22:05.630 So, and we are going to need to wrap up at 11:45, 02:22:05.690 --> 02:22:07.857 so about 15 minutes, okay? 02:22:07.857 --> 02:22:09.947 Okay. Thank you. 02:22:09.947 --> 02:22:12.913 And we will reach out, if we could go to the next slide. 02:22:15.500 --> 02:22:19.620 So decision-making criteria modeling. 02:22:19.620 --> 02:22:22.333 You know, we have many factors, 02:22:25.489 --> 02:22:28.740 I'm just a simple minded nuclear engineer. 02:22:28.740 --> 02:22:31.070 So I like to keep it simple. 02:22:31.070 --> 02:22:33.950 And we looked at the most limiting structures 02:22:33.950 --> 02:22:37.350 and then we took the design margin down to zero and said, 02:22:37.350 --> 02:22:39.240 found out that the wind 02:22:39.240 --> 02:22:44.240 at about 80 miles per hour was limiting. 02:22:44.400 --> 02:22:48.100 And then we have a little bit of a cushion in there. 02:22:48.100 --> 02:22:51.440 So at 55 miles, it's the speed limit 02:22:51.440 --> 02:22:55.580 is when we would probably invoke a PSPS 02:22:55.580 --> 02:23:00.470 if we have dry high fire threat conditions, obviously. 02:23:01.984 --> 02:23:05.040 And so, and that's for bare wire. 02:23:05.040 --> 02:23:08.890 If I had covered wire, when we installed covered wire, 02:23:08.890 --> 02:23:13.280 recognize that we go through and also do pole loading. 02:23:13.280 --> 02:23:17.330 And so instead of taking my design margin down to zero, 02:23:17.330 --> 02:23:20.410 I'm gonna take it down and say 2.67, 02:23:20.410 --> 02:23:23.343 that has meaning to those who follow geo 95. 02:23:24.310 --> 02:23:27.625 And if we can withstand a hell of a lot more wind. 02:23:27.625 --> 02:23:32.555 So I would say, we would evaluate a PSPS 02:23:32.555 --> 02:23:35.630 and the 90 to 100 mile per hour winds, 02:23:35.630 --> 02:23:39.805 not likely ever going to happen, okay? 02:23:39.805 --> 02:23:44.805 Can I say it will never happen? No, (laughs) but not likely. 02:23:45.070 --> 02:23:47.560 And if you look at the history of our winds, 02:23:47.560 --> 02:23:52.560 the tables below, we just, how in the last six years 02:23:53.240 --> 02:23:56.020 just don't experience this high winds. 02:23:56.020 --> 02:23:59.150 When we have high risk days. 02:23:59.150 --> 02:23:59.983 For some reason, 02:23:59.983 --> 02:24:03.610 the way the topography of our mountains are set up, 02:24:03.610 --> 02:24:06.120 we're somewhat shielded from the Santana winds 02:24:06.120 --> 02:24:11.120 as far as the actual speed of the wind, but we're ready. 02:24:13.300 --> 02:24:18.300 We do during the winter do experience winds 02:24:18.840 --> 02:24:21.840 over 70 miles per hour, but generally, 02:24:21.840 --> 02:24:25.270 you know, we're getting, you know, 02:24:25.270 --> 02:24:28.683 tend to inches to 24 inches of snow, 02:24:30.168 --> 02:24:32.940 or back on through the fortunes of 2019, 02:24:32.940 --> 02:24:34.450 we had over 10 inches of rain. 02:24:34.450 --> 02:24:36.913 We just aren't having a wildfire that day. 02:24:38.430 --> 02:24:42.260 And so while we are very versed in it 02:24:42.260 --> 02:24:43.440 and we do keep this up, 02:24:43.440 --> 02:24:47.430 we do believe that we can get our system hardened 02:24:47.430 --> 02:24:52.430 where PSPS is really not a likely event in Bear Valley. 02:24:53.260 --> 02:24:56.003 More likely that Southern California Edison 02:24:56.003 --> 02:24:59.320 will take our power away. 02:24:59.320 --> 02:25:02.840 And I didn't put a slide addressing that, 02:25:02.840 --> 02:25:03.740 but I can tell you 02:25:04.792 --> 02:25:08.701 that we talked to Southern California Edison 02:25:08.701 --> 02:25:10.680 at the executive level, 02:25:10.680 --> 02:25:13.660 the manager level, and the working level. 02:25:13.660 --> 02:25:17.623 And we have a very good and close coordination with them. 02:25:19.135 --> 02:25:19.970 We have access to their portal. 02:25:19.970 --> 02:25:23.170 We have direct phone lines to their control centers. 02:25:23.170 --> 02:25:27.693 I have direct communications with their account manager. 02:25:28.670 --> 02:25:31.970 And last year during the potential events, 02:25:31.970 --> 02:25:34.470 we were talking just about every four hours 02:25:35.800 --> 02:25:38.910 and making sure that we were all on the same page. 02:25:38.910 --> 02:25:43.400 And I think each year I see that coordination improving. 02:25:43.400 --> 02:25:45.720 I was actually pretty happy 02:25:46.756 --> 02:25:49.917 with the way they responded to us. 02:25:49.917 --> 02:25:53.240 And I think we worked well together. 02:25:53.240 --> 02:25:58.240 That is my top concern as far as the PSPS goes. 02:26:01.448 --> 02:26:02.613 Could go to the next. 02:26:03.910 --> 02:26:08.380 Paul, have you in your close communications with Edison, 02:26:08.380 --> 02:26:11.850 have you all ever done any part of 02:26:11.850 --> 02:26:14.343 or participated in their exercises? 02:26:15.970 --> 02:26:18.923 No, but that's a great thing to do. 02:26:19.943 --> 02:26:24.943 And we have not, we have to relate here within our staff. 02:26:25.560 --> 02:26:27.993 The Edison gives us a call and says, we, 02:26:30.052 --> 02:26:33.260 the following line is under consideration 02:26:33.260 --> 02:26:35.670 and here's the period of concern 02:26:35.670 --> 02:26:38.780 so that we all know their terminology. 02:26:38.780 --> 02:26:40.030 And then what we would do, 02:26:40.030 --> 02:26:43.460 we have actual switching procedures and so forth 02:26:43.460 --> 02:26:47.170 so that when we get these warnings, 02:26:47.170 --> 02:26:48.410 the challenge for us 02:26:48.410 --> 02:26:51.210 is to get the power plant up and running. 02:26:51.210 --> 02:26:53.583 In Bear Valley we have a small pecker.xx plant, 02:26:54.824 --> 02:26:55.657 8.4 megawatts, 02:26:55.657 --> 02:27:00.657 get that up and running before Edison were drops power to us 02:27:00.960 --> 02:27:04.770 because then we would be in a black start scenario. 02:27:04.770 --> 02:27:09.560 And if you ever in any utility, that's always a, 02:27:09.560 --> 02:27:12.020 it's a huge challenge to start up a power plant 02:27:12.020 --> 02:27:13.633 under black star conditions. 02:27:16.010 --> 02:27:17.840 I do think it would be good to inquire 02:27:17.840 --> 02:27:22.623 if you could please be included in their next exercise. 02:27:29.250 --> 02:27:30.720 On the vegetation. 02:27:30.720 --> 02:27:35.720 I mentioned that we back in March of 2018, 02:27:36.220 --> 02:27:37.850 following the permissions issue 02:27:37.850 --> 02:27:41.030 of a decision on increasing 02:27:41.030 --> 02:27:44.710 some of the fire prevention measures in geo 95, 02:27:44.710 --> 02:27:49.710 we implemented a new standards and we actually, 02:27:52.280 --> 02:27:56.270 we trim out to 12 feet as is done at the time of trim. 02:27:56.270 --> 02:28:01.113 But our decision to trimming now is at 72 inches, not 48. 02:28:02.205 --> 02:28:04.337 So we go beyond the minimum required 02:28:04.337 --> 02:28:07.633 and we do that because of our environment. 02:28:08.490 --> 02:28:13.060 And we have seen a notable decrease 02:28:13.060 --> 02:28:15.573 in vegetation contacts in lines. 02:28:16.630 --> 02:28:21.160 It's early you could say law of small numbers if you want, 02:28:21.160 --> 02:28:25.030 but I can tell you that when I first came here 02:28:25.030 --> 02:28:26.560 and you hear the wind, 02:28:26.560 --> 02:28:29.430 it, no, there'd be a little loud at somewhere. 02:28:29.430 --> 02:28:31.470 We don't have that anymore. 02:28:31.470 --> 02:28:35.160 This is really, and we have a very supportive community. 02:28:35.160 --> 02:28:36.520 I would have thought 02:28:36.520 --> 02:28:38.670 with the amount of trimming.xx we are doing 02:28:40.333 --> 02:28:41.410 that we would have gotten pushback. 02:28:41.410 --> 02:28:44.320 In fact, we actually get praise 02:28:44.320 --> 02:28:46.340 from at these community meetings, 02:28:46.340 --> 02:28:51.340 from folks that were out there with keeping the lines clear. 02:28:52.270 --> 02:28:55.833 I think the general folks are appreciative of that. 02:28:57.181 --> 02:28:59.628 A lot of trees we're keeping track of them 02:28:59.628 --> 02:29:02.993 and we're putting them in our GIS over 13,000 trees, 02:29:04.460 --> 02:29:07.260 we keep track of the species 02:29:07.260 --> 02:29:11.680 and we were getting much more surgical 02:29:11.680 --> 02:29:16.680 so that we can really get our management teams 02:29:16.910 --> 02:29:19.750 on the areas of concern 02:29:19.750 --> 02:29:23.253 before any threat weather approaches. 02:29:27.938 --> 02:29:28.923 Go to the next. 02:29:34.857 --> 02:29:38.253 An area, three resources new for us. 02:29:39.629 --> 02:29:43.060 We do have it located at the main facility. 02:29:43.060 --> 02:29:47.080 We do have a backup plan as well, 02:29:47.080 --> 02:29:50.610 and I do wanna work on some other backup plans, 02:29:50.610 --> 02:29:52.050 just so you understand, 02:29:52.050 --> 02:29:55.320 I can drive from one end of my service area to the other 02:29:56.630 --> 02:30:00.280 in about 20 to 22 minutes 02:30:02.091 --> 02:30:04.663 and without violating any speed limits, 02:30:06.620 --> 02:30:10.260 we are located right in the center of the service area. 02:30:10.260 --> 02:30:13.740 And so we feel that's a great location, 02:30:13.740 --> 02:30:17.010 but we want the ability obviously to move it to other areas 02:30:17.010 --> 02:30:17.983 if we did. 02:30:19.680 --> 02:30:23.750 And so that's what we we've tailored our system to do that, 02:30:23.750 --> 02:30:27.400 or our coordination center. 02:30:27.400 --> 02:30:30.543 We are improving our CRC. 02:30:31.710 --> 02:30:34.080 We have all the standard stuff. 02:30:34.080 --> 02:30:36.610 There was, I, you know, I read in the phase three 02:30:36.610 --> 02:30:38.600 and it came up in one of the workshops 02:30:39.610 --> 02:30:42.380 doing some indoor filtration for smoke. 02:30:42.380 --> 02:30:44.540 And that does make sense to me. 02:30:44.540 --> 02:30:48.138 And we'll try and get that in place last year 02:30:48.138 --> 02:30:51.137 during I know it didn't reach our service area 02:30:51.137 --> 02:30:52.880 we had the Eldorado fire, 02:30:52.880 --> 02:30:57.010 which was impacting the air quality up in our area. 02:30:57.010 --> 02:31:00.500 And it had the, in both the PSPS at the same time, 02:31:00.500 --> 02:31:02.680 the Eldorado fire was going on. 02:31:02.680 --> 02:31:06.100 It would've been nice to be able to offer an environment 02:31:06.100 --> 02:31:07.300 where people can breathe 02:31:09.380 --> 02:31:13.723 without being exposed to that kind of atmosphere. 02:31:14.909 --> 02:31:17.110 And so we are looking at that 02:31:19.931 --> 02:31:22.340 and we did set it up to verify that 02:31:22.340 --> 02:31:24.787 we could actually set it up and we had people there 02:31:24.787 --> 02:31:26.573 and people know what to do. 02:31:27.620 --> 02:31:32.390 I personally liked to play a customer 02:31:32.390 --> 02:31:33.750 and go in and test it out 02:31:35.250 --> 02:31:38.690 and sometimes be a difficult customer, 02:31:38.690 --> 02:31:41.621 but it makes our customer service folks 02:31:41.621 --> 02:31:42.973 a lot more responsive. 02:31:45.490 --> 02:31:46.643 Go to the next. 02:31:51.900 --> 02:31:53.440 I think this is the final one. 02:31:53.440 --> 02:31:55.790 We do have a lot of feedback. 02:31:55.790 --> 02:31:58.133 We get feedback from our surveys. 02:31:59.050 --> 02:32:01.890 It's all stuff that makes sense. 02:32:01.890 --> 02:32:06.890 And so we are constantly looking at those surveys 02:32:07.370 --> 02:32:09.190 and trying to understand 02:32:09.190 --> 02:32:11.503 how we can best serve our communities. 02:32:12.630 --> 02:32:15.900 We have a very, one of the biggest challenges we have, 02:32:15.900 --> 02:32:19.380 like I said, the door to door services sometimes needed. 02:32:19.380 --> 02:32:23.440 We have an elderly community that are not tech savvy. 02:32:23.440 --> 02:32:26.631 And then we have a lot of tech savvy people on it. 02:32:26.631 --> 02:32:28.123 You know, we have to cater to both. 02:32:29.130 --> 02:32:34.130 And we still have people with, rely on land (indistinct) 02:32:34.380 --> 02:32:39.380 and then we have others who don't even know what a mine is. 02:32:40.780 --> 02:32:45.780 And so even in the small service area, it's challenging, 02:32:46.150 --> 02:32:50.180 but we have to continually improve 02:32:50.180 --> 02:32:54.573 to make sure we can reach out and talk to all our customers. 02:32:57.900 --> 02:33:01.760 And also, and the other thing is, as I mentioned earlier, 02:33:01.760 --> 02:33:04.020 we're in this LA media market. 02:33:04.020 --> 02:33:06.740 And so we have to educate them about Southern California, 02:33:06.740 --> 02:33:11.740 Edison PSPS and their valley PSPS and the differences 02:33:12.570 --> 02:33:15.160 and whether or not they wouldn't be impacted. 02:33:15.160 --> 02:33:16.970 And every time Edison, 02:33:16.970 --> 02:33:21.280 they may be calling away a PSPS in Ventura County. 02:33:21.280 --> 02:33:24.150 Well, it's on the local news that we're watching 02:33:24.150 --> 02:33:27.970 and I guarantee you, we get phone calls about that. 02:33:27.970 --> 02:33:31.610 And so we try to take a leading on those things 02:33:31.610 --> 02:33:35.729 and get out in front and make sure our customers 02:33:35.729 --> 02:33:40.563 understand what they need to be ready for and when. 02:33:43.880 --> 02:33:44.810 Go to the next. 02:33:49.570 --> 02:33:50.713 Questions point. 02:33:52.230 --> 02:33:56.940 Thank you, Mr. Marconi for getting to do your presentation 02:33:56.940 --> 02:34:00.350 and helping us with my poor management of time this morning. 02:34:00.350 --> 02:34:02.670 So I appreciate that very much. 02:34:02.670 --> 02:34:05.980 I will turn now to the virtual dais and ask 02:34:05.980 --> 02:34:09.600 if any of my colleagues have any further questions 02:34:09.600 --> 02:34:11.550 and those that they have already asked. 02:34:13.910 --> 02:34:15.710 I see the chief shaking his head, 02:34:15.710 --> 02:34:17.930 and I do want to mention Mark Ghilarducci 02:34:17.930 --> 02:34:19.280 did have to depart, 02:34:19.280 --> 02:34:23.870 but there are people from OES who are listening in. 02:34:23.870 --> 02:34:28.021 So I don't want you to think that they left 02:34:28.021 --> 02:34:30.113 in the middle of your presentation. 02:34:31.461 --> 02:34:32.770 So any questions? 02:34:32.770 --> 02:34:34.957 Yes. Commissioner Houk. 02:34:34.957 --> 02:34:36.357 I don't have any questions 02:34:36.357 --> 02:34:37.700 but I know we're running on time. 02:34:37.700 --> 02:34:39.810 I just did wanna note that I appreciated 02:34:39.810 --> 02:34:44.260 all of the presentations and I learned a lot today. 02:34:44.260 --> 02:34:46.333 So thank you to all of the utilities. 02:34:47.960 --> 02:34:48.793 Indeed. 02:34:48.793 --> 02:34:51.013 Any other questions of Bear Valley? 02:34:53.070 --> 02:34:56.570 Okay. Not seeing any or hearing any. 02:34:56.570 --> 02:35:01.400 So with that, Mr. Marconi, I want to thank you again 02:35:01.400 --> 02:35:03.340 for your presentation. 02:35:03.340 --> 02:35:08.340 And I want to thank the representatives from Pacific Corp 02:35:08.790 --> 02:35:11.690 for theirs as well as Liberty. 02:35:11.690 --> 02:35:16.420 And I would ask if you all are still online with us, 02:35:16.420 --> 02:35:18.300 I hope that you are. 02:35:18.300 --> 02:35:22.577 Please stay if you can please 02:35:22.577 --> 02:35:25.810 and listen to the public comment. 02:35:25.810 --> 02:35:27.673 Very important for all of us. 02:35:28.630 --> 02:35:31.490 Okay. With that, we will now turn 02:35:31.490 --> 02:35:34.630 to the public comment portion of our agenda. 02:35:34.630 --> 02:35:37.880 As a reminder, if you wish to make a public comment, 02:35:37.880 --> 02:35:42.437 please dial 1-800-857-1917 02:35:44.210 --> 02:35:49.210 and enter a pass pass code 7218384#, press star one. 02:35:54.810 --> 02:35:56.710 You will be placed into a queue 02:35:56.710 --> 02:35:59.780 and the operator will take your name and organization. 02:35:59.780 --> 02:36:03.220 There may be a delay from the time you press star one 02:36:03.220 --> 02:36:05.750 to the time the operator asks for your information. 02:36:05.750 --> 02:36:08.983 So please be patient and stay on the line. 02:36:10.120 --> 02:36:15.120 We will provide you two minutes, two minutes to speak. 02:36:16.560 --> 02:36:19.610 You will hear a bell sound when your time is up. 02:36:19.610 --> 02:36:22.018 So please be mindful of that. 02:36:22.018 --> 02:36:26.403 Operator, please bring on the first commenter. 02:36:28.320 --> 02:36:29.153 Thank you. 02:36:29.153 --> 02:36:32.020 We have no one in the public comment telephone line 02:36:32.020 --> 02:36:32.853 at this time. 02:36:32.853 --> 02:36:34.750 But again, if you wish to speak 02:36:34.750 --> 02:36:35.980 during the public comment period, 02:36:35.980 --> 02:36:38.530 please press star one unmute your phone 02:36:38.530 --> 02:36:42.180 and clearly record your name and organization when prompted. 02:36:42.180 --> 02:36:44.773 Again, there's star one to make a public comment. 02:36:45.673 --> 02:36:48.980 So we'll wait a few minutes because we are late 02:36:48.980 --> 02:36:52.200 and I'm sure some people had to drop off. 02:36:52.200 --> 02:36:54.723 Maybe they'll sign back in. 02:37:10.227 --> 02:37:11.380 And as a reminder, 02:37:11.380 --> 02:37:12.900 if you would like to make a public comment, 02:37:12.900 --> 02:37:15.260 please press star one unmute your phone 02:37:15.260 --> 02:37:17.793 and record your first and last name when prompted. 02:37:25.060 --> 02:37:27.988 Okay. Operator as anybody joined us? 02:37:27.988 --> 02:37:29.640 In President Batjer, 02:37:29.640 --> 02:37:31.320 there are no participants 02:37:31.320 --> 02:37:33.840 on a public comment, telephone line. 02:37:33.840 --> 02:37:35.340 Okay. Thanks (mumbles). 02:37:35.340 --> 02:37:39.460 With no more callers on the line or no caller on the line. 02:37:39.460 --> 02:37:42.510 The public comment period is now closed. 02:37:42.510 --> 02:37:45.380 I do once again, wanna thank you for joining us today 02:37:45.380 --> 02:37:48.900 for a really informative briefing and discussion. 02:37:48.900 --> 02:37:52.650 I'm sorry that we kind of got lost in our time. 02:37:52.650 --> 02:37:56.120 And there were lots of rich questions 02:37:56.120 --> 02:37:57.490 being asked along the way 02:37:57.490 --> 02:38:02.050 for which I think my fellow Commissioners 02:38:02.050 --> 02:38:06.910 and my esteemed colleagues from Cal OES, Cal Fire 02:38:06.910 --> 02:38:10.880 and OES for your participation, not only today, 02:38:10.880 --> 02:38:12.780 but the last two days. 02:38:12.780 --> 02:38:17.740 And I also want to thank our wonderful team 02:38:17.740 --> 02:38:22.740 here at the CPEC, Rachel Peterson, Tony Knowles, 02:38:23.160 --> 02:38:28.160 Drew Dutton, Shelby Chaste, Cindy Kin, and Briana Mendoza, 02:38:28.420 --> 02:38:32.070 in our safety enforcement vision for all of their hard work 02:38:32.070 --> 02:38:33.950 in organizing these briefings. 02:38:33.950 --> 02:38:37.171 It isn't easy and it takes a lot of coordination and effort. 02:38:37.171 --> 02:38:39.350 And I really thank them all. 02:38:39.350 --> 02:38:44.350 I want to also thank my own advisor, Nora Hopkins, 02:38:45.140 --> 02:38:47.850 for all of her hard work in preparing me 02:38:47.850 --> 02:38:52.330 and the rest of the Batjer team for these three days. 02:38:52.330 --> 02:38:54.140 So thank you so much. 02:38:54.140 --> 02:38:58.750 And thank you today for your participation to the public. 02:38:58.750 --> 02:39:00.740 And thank you again to the companies 02:39:00.740 --> 02:39:02.380 for their presentations. 02:39:02.380 --> 02:39:03.900 This meeting is now adjourned. 02:39:03.900 --> 02:39:04.733 Thank you.