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<v ->For this streaming-</v>

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(gavel bangs)

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<v ->Members, it is 9:00 AM.</v>

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We will begin our meeting.

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I wanna welcome everyone
to the September 3rd, 2021

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Texas State Board of Education meeting.

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I've had a very productive week.

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I thank you everyone
for their hard work so far

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and look forward to the rest of today.

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So I want to thank Ms. Melton-Malone

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for working on our virtual
student performance

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and ask you to go ahead
and make the introduction.

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<v ->Thank you, Mr. Chair.</v>

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We have a wonderful
opportunity this morning

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to hear an amazing
group of young people.

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The Midway Hospital
Choir will be singing

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for us this morning.

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The choir involves over 250 students

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in eight performing ensembles.

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The 72 voice Meister Singers,
is the varsity mixed choir

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and flagship ensemble of the program.

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Meister Singers members also make up

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the 26 voice Chamber Singers ensemble.

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The Variety Tenor Bass
and Varsity Treble Choirs.

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The other choirs in the program

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are the Junior Varsity Select Men,

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Select Women, Concert Men
and Concert Women's choirs.

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Midway has long been
known for excellence

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in choral music with consistent
UIL sweepstakes awards,

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as well as members in TMEA
All Region and All State Choir.

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In 2021, 12 Midway High
School Choir members

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were named to the TME All State Choir.

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MHS choir members also
enthusiastically participate in UIL

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Solo and Ensemble contests
earning many superior ratings.

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In addition to traveling
across the United States

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and Europe, to perform in
concert and competitive festivals,

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the MHS Choirs have been recognized

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for their excellence with
invitations to perform six times

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at the Texas Music Educators Convention

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with the latest TMEA performance set

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to take place in February, 2022.

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In 2011, the MHS Chamber
Singers were invited to perform

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at the Southwest Division of
the American Choral Directors

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Association Conference
in Kansas City, Missouri.

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MHS Choir members are known

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for their campus involvement also,

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in such things as athletics, PALS,

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cheerleading, student
council, band, orchestra,

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theater and dance.

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Many of these students are also active

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in church and community organization.

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The directors of the Midway
High School Choir are

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Jeff Rice, Jennifer Rice
and Caleb Overstreet.

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Midway High School is led
by Principal Alison Smith.

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The Midway ISD Director
of Fine Arts is Darrellhoefer.

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And the Superintendent of
Schools is Dr. George Kazanas

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who I have to say, I
taught in second grade.

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(laughter)

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So with no further ado,

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I bring to you the
Midway High School Choir.

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Sit back and enjoy.

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(gentle choir melody)

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(piano tempo increases)

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(piano tempo slows)

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(piano music increases)

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(piano stops)
(singing stops)

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(lighthearted piano music)

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(elegant singing)

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(piano music softens)

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(singing stops)

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(choir begins singing Somebody to Love)

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♪ Somebody ♪

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♪ Can anybody find me ♪

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♪ Somebody to love ♪

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(singing in perpetual canon)

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♪ Somebody, somebody ♪

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♪ Somebody, somebody ♪

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♪ Can anybody find me ♪

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♪ Somebody to love ♪
(perpetual canon)

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♪ I try and I try and I try ♪

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♪ Somebody, somebody ♪

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♪ Somebody, somebody ♪

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♪ Can anybody find me ♪

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♪ Find me, somebody to love ♪

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♪ Find me, somebody to love ♪

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♪ Find me, somebody to love ♪

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♪ Find me, somebody to love ♪

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♪ Find me, somebody to love ♪

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♪ Love, love ♪

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♪ Find me, somebody to love ♪

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♪ Find me, somebody to love ♪

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♪ Somebody to, somebody to ♪

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♪ Can anybody find me ♪

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♪ Somebody to love ♪

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(singing stops)

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(singing begins)

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(singing volume increases)

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(singing stops)

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(all clapping)

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<v ->All right, what an
outstanding performance</v>

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by the Midway Choral Department
from Midway High School,

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we appreciate that very much.

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And thank you Ms. Melton-Malone
for bringing that to us.

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Really do appreciate it.

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All right, so we will now ask staff-

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Nope, I'm sorry.

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I'm going to call on Dr. Bell-Metereau.

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Will you please bring us the invocation

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and lead us in the pledges.

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<v ->Let us pray for
all life on earth.</v>

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We may have different understandings

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of God, but we all search for truth.

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And we seek comfort

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in our relationship to
the timeless eternal.

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During these challenging times,

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we have worked together
to accomplish a noble cause.

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To educate our children

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and prepare them for
a challenging future.

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Let us pray for the courage
to find common ground

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for the good of our children.

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As stewards of the earth, let
us pray and work to preserve

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the future existence of
life on this fragile planet.

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Let us pray that we can keep love

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at the center of our thoughts.

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Honoring principles before politics,

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and people before profit.

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Let us help each other

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to understand why we
hold our differing views,

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and consider where
we can work in unison.

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For a vision, a goal or a
cause that we may share

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in the name of all that
we hold sacred and holy.

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For the sake of future
generations that will come after us.

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We pray for strength, patience,
persistence and wisdom.

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Amen.

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<v All>I pledge allegiance</v>

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to the flag of the
United States of America

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and to the Republic for
which it stands one nation.

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<v Some>Under God.</v>

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<v All>Indivisible with
Liberty and justice for all.</v>

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Honor the Texas flag.

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I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas,

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one state under God,
one and indivisible.

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<v ->Thank you, Dr. Bell-Metereau.</v>

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All right we will now ask for staff

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to please call the roll.

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<v Staff>Yes.</v>

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Dr. Ellis.

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<v Dr. Ellis>Here.</v>

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<v ->Mrs. Perez, Ms. Perez.</v>

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<v Ms. Perez>Present.</v>

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<v Staff>Thank you.</v>

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Mr. Hickman.

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<v Mr. Hickman>Here.</v>

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<v Staff>Dr. Robinson.</v>

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<v Dr. Robinson>Here.</v>

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<v Staff>Dr. Young.</v>

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<v Dr. Young>Present.</v>

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<v Staff>Mr. Maynard.</v>

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<v Mr. Maynard>Here.</v>

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<v Staff>Ms. Hardy.</v>

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<v Ms. Hardy>Here.</v>

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<v Staff>Ms. Davis.</v>

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<v Ms. Davis>Here.</v>

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<v Staff>Mrs. Melton-Malone.</v>

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<v ->[Mrs. Melton-Malone] Here.</v>

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<v Staff>Dr. Johnson.</v>

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<v Dr. Johnson>Here.</v>

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<v Staff>Mr. Cortez,
Mrs. Perez-Diaz.</v>

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<v Mrs. Perez-Diaz>Here.</v>

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<v Staff>Dr. Bell-Metereau.</v>

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<v ->[Dr. Bell-Metereau] Here.</v>

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<v Staff 2>Mrs. Little.</v>

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<v Mrs. Little>Here.</v>

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(chatter)

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<v Staff>Oh, oh!</v>

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And Mr. Allen I did not forget you.

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(all laughing)

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<v Dr. Ellis>We'll never
forget Mr. Allen-</v>

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<v ->Never.
(all laughing)</v>

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<v ->And that is for sure.</v>

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All right, thank you.

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A quorum is present including
Mr. Allen for the record.

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First business to be considered

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is the approval of the minutes

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of the State Board of Education meeting

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from June 25th, 2021.

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Are there any
corrections to the minutes?

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I am hearing none.

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There are no corrections
so the minutes are approved.

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The next business in order is
a presentation of resolutions.

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Ms. Perez, please
present the resolutions.

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<v ->Thank you.</v>

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Today I think is one of
our favorite resolutions.

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Although, I struggle to remember

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of all of our resolutions
which ones do we enjoy more?

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But this one is special

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to all of us because
these are our volunteers

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who work so hard in all
of our respective districts

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to serve every student and
every teacher across the state.

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Five and a half million students

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and over 800,000 school employees.

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Today's resolution honors
are Heroes for Children.

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Whereas volunteers,

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provide invaluable support
to our Texas Public Schools

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through selfless giving

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of their time, talent
and financial resources.

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And whereas the State Board

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of Education, has honored
outstanding school volunteers

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with the Heroes for
Children award since 1994.

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Whereas Stephen Hambric

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has been a loyal volunteer
over the last 38 years

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for the Socorro
Independent School District,

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where he served on
multiple steering committees,

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including as Chairman

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of the Excellence in Education
Scholarship Foundation

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that has awarded over
$500,000 to 40 deserving students.

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And whereas Mayra Lozano,

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is an inspiration to the
La Joya ISD community

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for creating a social media
forum that provided parents

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and others with much needed
resources during the pandemic.

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She also volunteered on
various advisory committees,

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and served as a liaison

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between the local school and community.

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Whereas Isaiah Riebeling, a firefighter,

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who made a special
connection with students

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served by the Dewitt-Lavaca
Special Education Cooperative,

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whose thoughtfulness showed
when he built a picnic table,

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though he had never built one before,

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to have more space for lunch
outside during the pandemic.

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And whose in kind and cash donations

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benefit the children and staff.

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Whereas Terence Narcisse, is a hero

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who founded the East Harris
County Empowerment Council,

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a non-profit organization
that has grown over the years,

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and has benefited
thousands of school children

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in Galena Park ISD
and surrounding districts

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by providing scholarships, resources,

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and opportunities for youth
and families to succeed.

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Whereas Derrick Townsend
is a dedicated mentor,

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who has served elementary
to high school students

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for over 30 years in Austin
ISD and who serves as a leader

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and role model to his
mentees and local groups

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such as Dads Club and Men in Education.

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Whereas Beki Perkins,
who works tirelessly,

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to share, encourage,
educate and inspire others

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to support the staff and
students of Klein ISD.

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Her motto is every student enters

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with a promise and exits with a purpose.

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Their motto became her driving force

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to get involved in
various advisory boards

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and the Klein Education Foundation.

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Whereas Eileen Crues,
launched the Friendswood

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ISD Special Education
Parent-Teacher Organization in 2013.

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With the focus on providing resources

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and supporting parents

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of children with disabilities that has

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to date raised $20,000 by
hosting an annual art show

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that benefits specialized
classes for their students.

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Whereas Harvey Oyler found fulfillment

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after his retirement by
joining Partners in Education

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with the Kiwanis Club of Baytown and

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as Chairman, his leadership
benefits the students and staff

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of Alamo Elementary and
Goose Creek Consolidated ISD.

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With unparalleled generosity

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in the form of cash
and in kind donations.

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Whereas Anna Marie
Hornsby, is a visionary leader

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and is a founding member and President

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of the Pleasant Grove
ISD Education Foundation.

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She oversees the foundation's
highest fundraising campaign

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that directly benefits the students

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and staff with over 150
grants and more than $500,000.

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Whereas Terri Romere was instrumental

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in the creation of the
Raise 'Em Up Foundation,

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with the mission to provide
grants for livestock projects

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and agricultural programs,
which promote life

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and skills, personal
responsibility, fair play,

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good sportsmanship,
hard work, integrity,

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leadership and community service

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in districts across Travis
and Williamson Counties.

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Whereas Randy Cutshall

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volunteers his time
and photography talent

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on Friday nights and weekends

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as an exceptional photographer
for Weatherford ISD.

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Capturing special moments for students,

00:27:11.760 --> 00:27:14.730
families and staff to
enjoy, and most importantly,

00:27:14.730 --> 00:27:17.823
for the Weatherford parents
to download at no cost.

00:27:19.980 --> 00:27:21.917
Whereas Jon Boyd is a true leader

00:27:21.917 --> 00:27:23.740
in promoting civil service

00:27:24.910 --> 00:27:28.047
in support of Allen
ISD students and staff

00:27:28.047 --> 00:27:30.220
and through his leadership,

00:27:30.220 --> 00:27:33.441
the Allan Fire Department
was able to efficiently deploy

00:27:33.441 --> 00:27:35.555
the distribution of vaccines,

00:27:35.555 --> 00:27:38.120
which brought tremendous
calm in the community

00:27:38.120 --> 00:27:40.890
amid the height of the pandemic.

00:27:40.890 --> 00:27:44.680
Whereas Opal Lee championed
social justice and education

00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:47.680
for six decades that lead
to her tremendous work

00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:51.150
and success to make
Juneteenth a national holiday.

00:27:51.150 --> 00:27:53.179
And she is often described

00:27:53.179 --> 00:27:56.360
as the Grandmother of Juneteenth,

00:27:56.360 --> 00:28:00.400
whose name is in the Fort
Worth ISD Hall of Fame.

00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:02.570
Whereas Mary Ann Jack is instrumental

00:28:02.570 --> 00:28:05.630
in securing sponsorship
and keeping the finances

00:28:05.630 --> 00:28:08.371
of the Five Hills Scholarship
Foundation viable.

00:28:08.371 --> 00:28:11.670
Under her guidance in 2021,
the program awarded more

00:28:11.670 --> 00:28:14.485
than $110,000 in scholarships on prizes

00:28:14.485 --> 00:28:17.515
and nearly $500,000 has been awarded

00:28:17.515 --> 00:28:21.290
to deserving students since 2014.

00:28:21.290 --> 00:28:22.750
Whereas Amy Punchard

00:28:22.750 --> 00:28:25.930
believes in the mission
of Lubbock-Cooper ISD,

00:28:25.930 --> 00:28:29.420
where every child
deserves every opportunity.

00:28:29.420 --> 00:28:30.840
And in time,

00:28:30.840 --> 00:28:34.757
she has served as President
of the Education Foundation.

00:28:34.757 --> 00:28:38.970
Approximately $900,000
has been contributed

00:28:38.970 --> 00:28:41.010
to the district's classrooms.

00:28:41.010 --> 00:28:44.090
Therefore it be resolved,
that the State Board

00:28:44.090 --> 00:28:47.240
of Education recognizes
these outstanding individuals

00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:49.420
as Heroes for Children and thanks them

00:28:49.420 --> 00:28:54.420
for their combined 210
years of volunteer service

00:28:54.730 --> 00:28:58.770
in their local public
schools and communities.

00:28:58.770 --> 00:29:00.790
Witness our signatures on this third day

00:29:00.790 --> 00:29:04.980
of September, 2021 in Austin, Texas.

00:29:04.980 --> 00:29:06.560
Dr. Keven Ellis Chair,

00:29:06.560 --> 00:29:09.333
and myself, your Secretary Thank you.

00:29:10.454 --> 00:29:14.340
(audience applauding)

00:29:14.340 --> 00:29:16.510
<v ->Congratulations and
I would ask all those</v>

00:29:16.510 --> 00:29:18.440
in favor of adopting the resolution

00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:22.400
of the 2021 Heroes for
Children Award recipient

00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:24.086
do so by saying aye.

00:29:24.086 --> 00:29:25.120
<v All>Aye.</v>

00:29:25.120 --> 00:29:27.383
<v ->The resolution is adopted.</v>

00:29:29.040 --> 00:29:30.880
<v Ms. Perez>That is all
for the resolutions today.</v>

00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:32.403
<v ->Thank you, Ms. Perez.</v>

00:29:33.510 --> 00:29:35.760
All right members, we do
have public testimony today.

00:29:35.760 --> 00:29:39.750
I believe we have 13
that registered previously,

00:29:39.750 --> 00:29:43.310
and we have two that
are late registrations

00:29:43.310 --> 00:29:45.130
that we can take up afterwards

00:29:45.130 --> 00:29:47.980
if there's not an objection
from any member of the board.

00:29:48.900 --> 00:29:50.970
Members, the first two have signed up

00:29:50.970 --> 00:29:53.520
for an item that was previously
covered during the week,

00:29:53.520 --> 00:29:55.500
and I believe they
also had the opportunity

00:29:55.500 --> 00:29:59.410
to testify to that during that
item previously in the week.

00:29:59.410 --> 00:30:01.650
So we will move to the third testifier,

00:30:01.650 --> 00:30:03.371
start with the third testifier,

00:30:03.371 --> 00:30:06.173
and I will have staff call the names.

00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:27.297
<v Staff>Emily Parent,</v>

00:30:27.297 --> 00:30:32.297
Anh-Thhu Nguyen, Nicole
Krishtul and Brad Lander.

00:30:43.770 --> 00:30:45.500
And chairman I don't see anyone

00:30:45.500 --> 00:30:47.600
in the waiting room at this time.

00:30:47.600 --> 00:30:48.433
<v Dr. Ellis>Okay.</v>

00:30:48.433 --> 00:30:49.975
<v Staff>Would you like
us to call the rest of-</v>

00:30:49.975 --> 00:30:52.475
(indistinct)

00:30:54.919 --> 00:30:58.520
<v ->Would you like for us to
call the remaining individuals?</v>

00:30:58.520 --> 00:30:59.353
<v Dr. Ellis>Yes.</v>

00:30:59.353 --> 00:31:00.640
So you're saying none of those four?

00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.130
<v Staff>There's there's nobody
in the Zoom waiting room</v>

00:31:03.130 --> 00:31:04.453
at this time
<v ->Okay.</v>

00:31:04.453 --> 00:31:05.286
Yeah, so go ahead and call the others,

00:31:05.286 --> 00:31:07.030
and see if anyone else is.

00:31:07.030 --> 00:31:08.790
<v Staff>Daniella Strongberg,</v>

00:31:10.090 --> 00:31:13.953
Cassie Newsome, Phillip Miller,

00:31:17.007 --> 00:31:21.707
Michael Wexler, Jeffrey Aronowitz,

00:31:25.150 --> 00:31:28.913
Bradley Sachs, Tommie Smith.

00:31:30.280 --> 00:31:31.130
<v Dr. Ellis>Are any
of the testifiers</v>

00:31:31.130 --> 00:31:32.720
in our Zoom waiting room?

00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:34.030
Okay, seeing none.

00:31:34.030 --> 00:31:39.030
Members, we have two
testifiers who are late registrants

00:31:39.067 --> 00:31:41.260
Perla Hopkins on parental rights,

00:31:41.260 --> 00:31:44.420
and Paul GotTEA on parental rights.

00:31:44.420 --> 00:31:47.120
Is there any objection to
hearing the late testifiers?

00:31:48.810 --> 00:31:49.790
I'm seeing none.

00:31:49.790 --> 00:31:52.003
Staff, you go ahead
and call on those two.

00:31:55.760 --> 00:31:58.027
<v Staff>Carla Hopkins, Paul Gottea.</v>

00:32:15.490 --> 00:32:18.323
(papers rustling)

00:32:35.980 --> 00:32:37.720
<v Dr. Ellis>You may go
ahead when you're ready.</v>

00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:38.980
<v ->Good Morning.</v>

00:32:38.980 --> 00:32:40.870
Last quarter, you had a high number

00:32:40.870 --> 00:32:42.840
of advocates come and speak to you

00:32:42.840 --> 00:32:47.200
about school choice and
asking you for charter schools.

00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:50.770
I saw many testimonies
from various parents,

00:32:50.770 --> 00:32:53.390
but one testimony
really stood out to me.

00:32:53.390 --> 00:32:56.420
And that was the parent,
that explained to you all

00:32:56.420 --> 00:33:00.480
that they had never heard of
a syllabus until they themself,

00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:03.640
got the opportunity later
in life to go to college.

00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:05.550
One of you fine people

00:33:05.550 --> 00:33:08.582
in here, asked the
individual, the parent,

00:33:08.582 --> 00:33:12.870
"where did you receive
your K through 12 education?"

00:33:12.870 --> 00:33:15.970
And the parent responded, "California."

00:33:15.970 --> 00:33:19.550
Well, I am a product
of public education.

00:33:19.550 --> 00:33:21.990
The last time I attended school was,

00:33:21.990 --> 00:33:25.290
I'm sorry, in California
was my sophomore year

00:33:25.290 --> 00:33:28.510
of high school at Long
Beach Polytechnic High.

00:33:28.510 --> 00:33:32.080
Now, while we did have to
go through metal detectors,

00:33:32.080 --> 00:33:34.040
I assure you, ladies and gentlemen,

00:33:34.040 --> 00:33:37.230
that I got a quality education.

00:33:37.230 --> 00:33:39.970
The other state in which
I received my education

00:33:39.970 --> 00:33:41.713
was the state of Louisiana.

00:33:42.611 --> 00:33:46.840
Fast-forward 20 years of parenting,

00:33:46.840 --> 00:33:51.840
a certified teacher, all
of my worldly experience.

00:33:52.690 --> 00:33:54.980
And it is now, in this modern day

00:33:54.980 --> 00:33:58.810
and time in the state of Texas,
that we are coming to you

00:33:58.810 --> 00:34:03.615
as parents, as citizens, to
explain to you the drastic,

00:34:03.615 --> 00:34:08.360
awful decline in the
public education system

00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:09.573
here in this state.

00:34:15.640 --> 00:34:18.710
It all boils down to parental rights.

00:34:18.710 --> 00:34:22.100
I requested from Leander
Independent School District,

00:34:22.100 --> 00:34:25.230
my children's schedules, their syllabi,

00:34:25.230 --> 00:34:28.280
and for me to just have the opportunity

00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:30.080
to review the curriculum.

00:34:30.080 --> 00:34:34.480
It was turned into a FOIA
public information request.

00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.500
Now, by now I know my parental rights.

00:34:37.500 --> 00:34:39.070
There is no way in the world,

00:34:39.070 --> 00:34:42.827
that I reached out to Leander
Independent School District

00:34:42.827 --> 00:34:45.160
as a public information request

00:34:45.160 --> 00:34:47.860
to review my children's curriculum.

00:34:47.860 --> 00:34:50.780
Yesterday, I picked up a flash drive

00:34:50.780 --> 00:34:53.777
because they would not
print not one syllabus for me.

00:34:53.777 --> 00:34:56.960
And this is coming from
the District Leadership.

00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:59.820
I will have to now
go to a Public Library

00:34:59.820 --> 00:35:03.740
to look up what the
contents of that flash drive are

00:35:03.740 --> 00:35:05.912
because I have no confidence,

00:35:05.912 --> 00:35:09.990
I have no trust, in Leander
Independent School District

00:35:09.990 --> 00:35:13.330
to put that flash drive
on my own computer.

00:35:13.330 --> 00:35:14.180
Ladies and gentlemen,

00:35:14.180 --> 00:35:18.790
please allow me to send you
an email with other examples

00:35:18.790 --> 00:35:21.570
of how our parental rights
are being stripped away

00:35:21.570 --> 00:35:25.790
including attempts at
removing our medical rights

00:35:25.790 --> 00:35:29.900
to our children's
privacy, their medications,

00:35:29.900 --> 00:35:32.513
being able to go off campus
without our permission-

00:35:32.513 --> 00:35:33.697
<v Dr. Ellis>Okay Ma'am
that's your time.</v>

00:35:33.697 --> 00:35:36.133
<v ->Thank you so
much, I appreciate it.</v>

00:35:38.630 --> 00:35:39.730
<v Staff>Paul Gottea.</v>

00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:42.713
<v ->Yes.</v>

00:35:42.713 --> 00:35:44.500
I just want to reiterate
the parental rights

00:35:44.500 --> 00:35:48.470
in Leander and similarly,
around the states.

00:35:48.470 --> 00:35:50.300
We've talked to different organizations

00:35:50.300 --> 00:35:53.150
from North Carolina to California.

00:35:53.150 --> 00:35:54.820
Our parental rights
are being stripped away,

00:35:54.820 --> 00:35:56.350
all in the name of safety.

00:35:56.350 --> 00:35:59.370
People talk about safety,
people say cover your face,

00:35:59.370 --> 00:36:03.440
people say get experimental drugs,

00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:07.665
but the fact is, we're
all flying without a net

00:36:07.665 --> 00:36:10.760
and we need the parental rights

00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:14.647
as a balance and check so
that they simply cannot say

00:36:14.647 --> 00:36:16.940
"The eighth grade, the sixth grade."

00:36:16.940 --> 00:36:19.730
No one's gone to school this
week because we had one case.

00:36:19.730 --> 00:36:24.110
The CDC says for every 100,000 people

00:36:24.110 --> 00:36:27.700
and you have 50 cases,
you can go into code red.

00:36:27.700 --> 00:36:29.030
The Williamson County has it

00:36:29.030 --> 00:36:33.430
at 12.7 for their health department,

00:36:33.430 --> 00:36:37.000
which allows these ISDs

00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.883
to simply change the
rules as they see fit.

00:36:41.150 --> 00:36:44.060
We know kids need to be in school.

00:36:44.060 --> 00:36:46.390
I was at the hearings last week,

00:36:46.390 --> 00:36:49.490
where the TEA Commissioner spoke

00:36:49.490 --> 00:36:54.490
about how we've lost 12
years, 12 years of education

00:36:54.790 --> 00:36:57.930
in one year, because
the kids weren't in school.

00:36:57.930 --> 00:37:02.930
My gosh, please let
the parents have rights.

00:37:03.070 --> 00:37:04.980
The kids need to be in
school and I know, like I said,

00:37:04.980 --> 00:37:06.860
we're all flying without a net here,

00:37:06.860 --> 00:37:11.160
but, the schools can just make stuff up

00:37:11.160 --> 00:37:14.073
as they go and keep the
kids out of school so arbitrarily.

00:37:14.073 --> 00:37:16.430
(bell rings)

00:37:16.430 --> 00:37:17.990
That is my point.

00:37:17.990 --> 00:37:19.544
<v ->Thank you very much,</v>

00:37:19.544 --> 00:37:21.130
and members, I will remind
everyone as I often do,

00:37:21.130 --> 00:37:24.490
section 5-5-1 dot 0-4-2
of the government code,

00:37:24.490 --> 00:37:26.330
says that after public
testimony that's not

00:37:26.330 --> 00:37:28.470
on the agenda, we can
only have statements

00:37:28.470 --> 00:37:31.150
about factual information
given a response in a recitation

00:37:31.150 --> 00:37:33.770
of existing policy, in
response to the inquiry.

00:37:33.770 --> 00:37:35.670
I would point out, you
asked if you could send us

00:37:35.670 --> 00:37:36.503
an email, I ask you to get

00:37:36.503 --> 00:37:39.330
with staff, make sure you
have our SBOE support email

00:37:39.330 --> 00:37:40.981
that can get to us, okay?

00:37:40.981 --> 00:37:43.940
Thank you very much,
Members, I do understand,

00:37:43.940 --> 00:37:47.980
that the list of testifiers
we had previously,

00:37:47.980 --> 00:37:52.150
there was a incorrect
link that was sent to them.

00:37:52.150 --> 00:37:55.050
So I believe we are correcting
that at this point in time.

00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:21.450
<v Staff>Emily Parent,
Anh-Thhu Nguyen,</v>

00:38:22.630 --> 00:38:25.223
Nicole Krishtul, Brad Lander,

00:38:39.065 --> 00:38:41.033
Daniella Stromberg, Cassie Newsome,

00:38:58.194 --> 00:39:00.923
Emily, you can begin when you're ready.

00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:14.910
<v Emily>Hi there.</v>

00:39:17.620 --> 00:39:18.920
Hi there, can you hear me?

00:39:21.020 --> 00:39:22.220
<v Dr. Ellis>Yes, we can.</v>

00:39:22.220 --> 00:39:23.860
<v ->Okay, perfect.</v>

00:39:23.860 --> 00:39:25.470
Thank you for waiting

00:39:25.470 --> 00:39:28.670
on the delay and for the new Zoom link.

00:39:28.670 --> 00:39:33.670
So my name is Emily Parent, I
live at 70 Prospect Park West,

00:39:33.930 --> 00:39:37.103
a Greenbrook Partners
property, in Brooklyn, New York.

00:39:38.356 --> 00:39:40.240
The Texas Permanent School Fund

00:39:40.240 --> 00:39:42.040
has invested a hundred million

00:39:42.040 --> 00:39:45.930
in NW1, a private
equity firm, which in turn,

00:39:45.930 --> 00:39:49.970
has invested at least 25
million in Greenbrook Partners.

00:39:49.970 --> 00:39:52.370
I give this testimony
as a Greenbrook tenant

00:39:52.370 --> 00:39:54.640
and an organizer in this community,

00:39:54.640 --> 00:39:58.023
connected with dozens of other
effected Greenbrook tenants.

00:39:59.050 --> 00:40:00.120
Based on the June meeting

00:40:00.120 --> 00:40:02.910
of this board, the information provided

00:40:02.910 --> 00:40:05.220
by investment advisors does not match

00:40:05.220 --> 00:40:08.269
what is happening on the
ground here in Brooklyn.

00:40:08.269 --> 00:40:09.102
And I think it's important

00:40:09.102 --> 00:40:11.923
for this board to know the
true nature of this investment.

00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.290
This is not a handful
of disgruntled tenants,

00:40:16.290 --> 00:40:21.230
our organizing encompasses
over 30 buildings and counting,

00:40:21.230 --> 00:40:25.160
with hundreds of tenants
experiencing the same issues.

00:40:25.160 --> 00:40:27.040
Non-renewals for no cause,

00:40:27.040 --> 00:40:31.530
construction harassment
and hazardous conditions.

00:40:31.530 --> 00:40:33.140
We're not going away.

00:40:33.140 --> 00:40:35.380
This is not an issue of rich New Yorkers

00:40:35.380 --> 00:40:37.420
not wanting to pay more.

00:40:37.420 --> 00:40:39.165
Many of the tenants connected with us,

00:40:39.165 --> 00:40:42.780
including myself, are
middle or low income

00:40:42.780 --> 00:40:46.223
and rely on reasonable rent
to even have a home at all.

00:40:47.290 --> 00:40:48.970
Greenbrook is actively reducing

00:40:48.970 --> 00:40:50.760
the number of rent stabilized units

00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:53.660
under their ownership
and pursuing the strategy

00:40:53.660 --> 00:40:55.735
without the records to
back up such actions.

00:40:55.735 --> 00:40:57.570
(bell rings)

00:40:57.570 --> 00:40:58.610
They're purchasing buildings

00:40:58.610 --> 00:41:00.860
without doing appropriate due diligence,

00:41:00.860 --> 00:41:03.210
including things so fundamental

00:41:03.210 --> 00:41:06.093
as getting the rent rolls
from previous landlords.

00:41:07.130 --> 00:41:09.210
This is reckless and leaves them open

00:41:09.210 --> 00:41:12.880
to liability when tenants
rightfully push back.

00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:16.220
Combine this lack of due
diligence with mounting fines,

00:41:16.220 --> 00:41:19.220
city led lawsuits for
illegal construction,

00:41:19.220 --> 00:41:20.895
and these facts kind of show

00:41:20.895 --> 00:41:24.214
that Greenbrook and
NW1 are poor stewards

00:41:24.214 --> 00:41:26.245
of this substantial
investment from Texas.

00:41:26.245 --> 00:41:28.610
(bell rings)

00:41:28.610 --> 00:41:29.991
We urge you to divest
your money your time-

00:41:29.991 --> 00:41:31.780
<v Dr. Ellis>Ms. Parent,
that is your time,</v>

00:41:31.780 --> 00:41:32.613
thank you very much.

00:41:32.613 --> 00:41:33.723
<v ->Okay, thank you much.</v>

00:41:37.143 --> 00:41:39.226
<v Staff>Anh-Thu Nguyen.</v>

00:41:58.980 --> 00:42:01.230
<v ->(indistinct) that's deeply
and negatively impacted</v>

00:42:01.230 --> 00:42:05.050
by Greenbrook and their
investment partner NW1.

00:42:05.050 --> 00:42:07.130
Before I moved to this building,

00:42:07.130 --> 00:42:10.330
I bounced from one unstable
living condition to another

00:42:10.330 --> 00:42:11.920
until I found this beautiful home

00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:14.770
where I could put down
roots and build a community.

00:42:14.770 --> 00:42:16.080
The tenant before me had lived here

00:42:16.080 --> 00:42:18.380
for over 40 years until she passed on,

00:42:18.380 --> 00:42:20.300
and many residents in
my building have lived

00:42:20.300 --> 00:42:22.330
here for 30, 40, or 50 years.

00:42:22.330 --> 00:42:23.700
People who are from all walks

00:42:23.700 --> 00:42:26.120
of life, cultures and backgrounds.

00:42:26.120 --> 00:42:28.090
This is to me what
New York City is about,

00:42:28.090 --> 00:42:30.693
and really what it's about
for the American dream.

00:42:31.660 --> 00:42:33.491
New York City is a city
of tenants about 70%,

00:42:33.491 --> 00:42:36.750
because working people
can't afford to buy here.

00:42:36.750 --> 00:42:38.560
But we're the ones that open stores,

00:42:38.560 --> 00:42:39.860
we keep the city's lights on.

00:42:39.860 --> 00:42:41.040
We educate the children,

00:42:41.040 --> 00:42:43.950
and we make the city a
special place to visit and work in.

00:42:43.950 --> 00:42:46.310
I think it's important for
the Texas State Board of Ed

00:42:46.310 --> 00:42:48.820
to know that this
$100 million investment

00:42:48.820 --> 00:42:51.630
into NW1 and its local
partner Greenbrook,

00:42:51.630 --> 00:42:54.220
made in the middle of the
COVID lockdown in New York City,

00:42:54.220 --> 00:42:56.090
when sirens were going day and night

00:42:56.090 --> 00:42:59.280
has resulted in uprooted
families and unsafe homes.

00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.220
These are working class
and middle class families

00:43:01.220 --> 00:43:02.490
who have lived here for decades,

00:43:02.490 --> 00:43:04.490
essentially forced out in
the middle of a pandemic.

00:43:04.490 --> 00:43:06.014
While Greenbrook has sat on empty units,

00:43:06.014 --> 00:43:08.290
until someone comes along to pay rent

00:43:08.290 --> 00:43:10.930
that's three to five times
what it was originally.

00:43:10.930 --> 00:43:12.770
I work at a non-profit myself,

00:43:12.770 --> 00:43:15.230
I help low income people
start small businesses,

00:43:15.230 --> 00:43:17.940
and Greenbrook is making it
impossible for people like me

00:43:17.940 --> 00:43:19.480
to continue living in my neighborhood,

00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:22.171
and be in service to my
neighbors in my communities.

00:43:22.171 --> 00:43:23.004
(bell rings)

00:43:23.004 --> 00:43:24.550
The actions of predatory equity firms

00:43:24.550 --> 00:43:27.000
like Greenbrook and
NW1 is why New York City

00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:29.610
is now the most expensive
city to live in United States.

00:43:29.610 --> 00:43:31.230
And why there is a housing crisis

00:43:31.230 --> 00:43:34.180
across the country, like in
Austin, where I used to live.

00:43:34.180 --> 00:43:35.570
The Texas Permanent School Fund,

00:43:35.570 --> 00:43:37.670
holding over $50 billion in assets

00:43:37.670 --> 00:43:39.834
has plenty of opportunities
to pick better investments

00:43:39.834 --> 00:43:41.530
than the one that
is literally destroying

00:43:41.530 --> 00:43:43.090
families here in Brooklyn.

00:43:43.090 --> 00:43:43.970
As a former Texan,

00:43:43.970 --> 00:43:46.040
who has benefited from
the Texas state investments

00:43:46.040 --> 00:43:47.470
in my education, I also know

00:43:47.470 --> 00:43:49.130
that we can and should do better.

00:43:49.130 --> 00:43:50.860
And I would hate to be used as an excuse

00:43:50.860 --> 00:43:51.693
for destroying
(bell rings)

00:43:51.693 --> 00:43:53.300
people's homes and
families in another place.

00:43:53.300 --> 00:43:55.900
In the name of return on
investment for Texas schools

00:43:55.900 --> 00:43:57.440
I know how much it means
<v ->Ms. Nguyen.</v>

00:43:57.440 --> 00:43:58.435
<v ->To have a home where-</v>
<v ->Ms. Nguyen that is-</v>

00:43:58.435 --> 00:43:59.268
<v ->You can put down roots,</v>
<v ->That is your time.</v>

00:43:59.268 --> 00:44:00.978
<v ->And everyone deserves</v>
<v ->Thank you for your time.</v>

00:44:00.978 --> 00:44:01.811
<v ->That opportunity to do so.</v>

00:44:01.811 --> 00:44:03.550
I urge you to divest from Greenbook NN1

00:44:03.550 --> 00:44:05.220
to protect the Texas
Permanent School Fund

00:44:05.220 --> 00:44:07.000
and stop this predatory
behavior affecting

00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:08.640
lives and livelihoods
of broken families.

00:44:08.640 --> 00:44:10.393
<v Dr. Ellis>Ms. Nguyen,
that is your time, thank you.</v>

00:44:11.502 --> 00:44:12.502
<v ->Thank you.</v>

00:44:19.090 --> 00:44:20.390
<v Staff>Nicole Krishtul.</v>

00:44:28.630 --> 00:44:29.593
Brad Lander.

00:44:54.300 --> 00:44:56.330
You can begin when you're ready.

00:44:56.330 --> 00:44:57.811
<v ->Oh, thank you very much.</v>

00:44:57.811 --> 00:44:58.644
Can you hear me?

00:44:59.690 --> 00:45:01.225
<v Dr. Ellis>Yes, we can.</v>

00:45:01.225 --> 00:45:02.225
<v ->Okay, great.</v>

00:45:02.225 --> 00:45:03.780
Good morning, I'm New York
City council member, Brad Lander.

00:45:03.780 --> 00:45:07.090
I'm grateful for this
opportunity to testify to you.

00:45:07.090 --> 00:45:09.840
My office has been working
with many of the tenants impacted

00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:11.410
by the Texas Permanent School Funds

00:45:11.410 --> 00:45:13.840
investment in NW1 and their partnership

00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:15.270
with Greenbrook partners,

00:45:15.270 --> 00:45:17.120
and we're working closely
with Senator Schumer,

00:45:17.120 --> 00:45:19.800
who I know has written to
you on this issue as well.

00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:20.750
Greenbook has purchased

00:45:20.750 --> 00:45:23.640
over 60 multi-family
buildings in Brooklyn,

00:45:23.640 --> 00:45:25.400
housing hundreds of tenants.

00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:27.380
Shortly after purchasing each building,

00:45:27.380 --> 00:45:30.250
they send all tenants
notice of non-renewal,

00:45:30.250 --> 00:45:33.620
evicting them in the midst
of an ongoing pandemic.

00:45:33.620 --> 00:45:35.790
These are working and
middle-class families,

00:45:35.790 --> 00:45:36.950
people on fixed income,

00:45:36.950 --> 00:45:40.610
students, artists, teachers,
kids in schools nearby.

00:45:40.610 --> 00:45:41.443
People who have lived

00:45:41.443 --> 00:45:44.380
in their homes for a decade,
they're my constituents.

00:45:44.380 --> 00:45:47.220
Your investment team is
misrepresenting information

00:45:47.220 --> 00:45:50.260
on the issue as board member
Davis saw when she visited.

00:45:50.260 --> 00:45:52.360
Thank you for coming to see in person.

00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:53.870
You've been informed, their strategy

00:45:53.870 --> 00:45:56.050
is to buy dilapidated rundown buildings,

00:45:56.050 --> 00:45:57.940
but it's just not true.

00:45:57.940 --> 00:46:00.440
The buildings don't need
the construction work.

00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:02.910
It is construction as harassment

00:46:02.910 --> 00:46:05.630
to kick people out of their
homes so they can replace them

00:46:05.630 --> 00:46:08.770
with wealthier people
paying higher rents.

00:46:08.770 --> 00:46:11.610
Many of these buildings
actually have become unlivable

00:46:11.610 --> 00:46:14.670
after NW1 and Greenbrook bought them.

00:46:14.670 --> 00:46:15.670
If you look at the history

00:46:15.670 --> 00:46:18.160
of the violations, you will see it.

00:46:18.160 --> 00:46:21.820
The strategy of predatory
equity in real estate is not an

00:46:21.820 --> 00:46:25.730
accepted strategy in New
York, but we have seen it before.

00:46:25.730 --> 00:46:27.640
In the run-up to the financial crisis,

00:46:27.640 --> 00:46:31.590
several firms engaged as
NW1 and Greekbrook are now

00:46:31.590 --> 00:46:32.480
in a frenzy
(bell rings)

00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:35.670
of buying multi-family
buildings, throwing out tenants,

00:46:35.670 --> 00:46:38.980
using construction as
harassment and jacking up rents.

00:46:38.980 --> 00:46:42.660
I'll tell you, most of them
lost money in the crash.

00:46:42.660 --> 00:46:45.040
To address that crisis, the
New York state legislature

00:46:45.040 --> 00:46:46.410
adopted new legislation

00:46:46.410 --> 00:46:49.250
in 2019 to strengthen
tenant protections,

00:46:49.250 --> 00:46:51.740
and prevent exactly
what Greenbrook is doing.

00:46:51.740 --> 00:46:54.700
Now, NW1 and Greenbrook
have found new loopholes

00:46:54.700 --> 00:46:58.200
in those laws, but we are
working hard to close them.

00:46:58.200 --> 00:47:01.080
Our regulatory agencies,
at city and state levels,

00:47:01.080 --> 00:47:02.870
will continue to investigate
(bell rings)

00:47:02.870 --> 00:47:05.440
NW1 and Greenbrook's
predatory practices,

00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.460
conduct inspections,

00:47:07.460 --> 00:47:11.400
and issue violations with
significant fines as needed.

00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:13.730
So by investing in them-
<v ->Mr. Lander that's your time.</v>

00:47:13.730 --> 00:47:14.730
Thank you very much.

00:47:17.640 --> 00:47:21.184
<v ->Thank you, I hope that you'll
act on both common decency,</v>

00:47:21.184 --> 00:47:22.527
and fiduciary duty

00:47:22.527 --> 00:47:27.110
to withdraw your investment
from NW1, thank you.

00:47:27.110 --> 00:47:28.560
<v Staff>Daniella Stromberg.</v>

00:47:33.250 --> 00:47:34.353
Cassie Newsome.

00:47:51.750 --> 00:47:53.150
<v ->Hi, did you say my name?</v>

00:47:53.150 --> 00:47:53.983
I'm sorry.

00:47:55.530 --> 00:47:57.813
<v Staff>Yes, you can
begin when you're ready.</v>

00:48:09.308 --> 00:48:10.890
<v ->(indistinct) the Houston ISD</v>

00:48:10.890 --> 00:48:13.490
public school teacher in district six.

00:48:13.490 --> 00:48:16.690
I had a rich and gratifying
experience teaching children,

00:48:16.690 --> 00:48:19.320
but decided to leave Texas
to follow my heart to New York

00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:21.240
where my husband's career was based.

00:48:21.240 --> 00:48:23.905
My husband and I
moved into this apartment

00:48:23.905 --> 00:48:27.070
in 2010 as newlyweds
and ready to start our family.

00:48:27.070 --> 00:48:30.110
We had lived here 11 years
and our family has grown.

00:48:30.110 --> 00:48:32.840
Our son is now 10
and our daughter is five.

00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:36.630
We, along with our neighbors,
love this building very much.

00:48:36.630 --> 00:48:39.040
So it was a big shock
for us when we found out

00:48:39.040 --> 00:48:40.800
in March, that our
building had been sold

00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:45.273
to new owners, Greenbrook
Partners, a subsidiary of NW1.

00:48:45.273 --> 00:48:48.580
When we realized that the
new owners had the intent

00:48:48.580 --> 00:48:49.960
of pushing many of us out,

00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:52.830
in order to make a profit,
we were even more shocked.

00:48:52.830 --> 00:48:54.640
We soon discovered that Greenbrook

00:48:54.640 --> 00:48:56.430
was buying up residential buildings

00:48:56.430 --> 00:48:57.840
all over our part of Brooklyn,

00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:00.770
and pushing out many
families with the same intent.

00:49:00.770 --> 00:49:04.140
Finally, when we found out
that Greenbrook's spending spree

00:49:04.140 --> 00:49:05.950
was thanks to a huge investment

00:49:05.950 --> 00:49:09.220
from the Texas Permanent
School Fund, we were baffled.

00:49:09.220 --> 00:49:13.410
Why would the Texas PSF
invest in predatory equity?

00:49:13.410 --> 00:49:16.310
Why should Texas school children benefit

00:49:16.310 --> 00:49:17.660
from New York school children

00:49:17.660 --> 00:49:19.570
being pushed out of their homes?

00:49:19.570 --> 00:49:23.330
The Texas PSF has a
responsibility to invest in endeavors

00:49:23.330 --> 00:49:25.560
that help to progress society and not

00:49:25.560 --> 00:49:29.370
in opportunities that profit
from displacing families.

00:49:29.370 --> 00:49:31.810
I am here today to
respectfully ask the board

00:49:31.810 --> 00:49:33.110
to further investigate
(bell rings)

00:49:33.110 --> 00:49:34.987
the practices of NW1 and Greenbrook,

00:49:34.987 --> 00:49:39.263
and for the Texas PSF to
withdraw their investment from NW1.

00:49:40.290 --> 00:49:41.123
Thank you.

00:49:45.150 --> 00:49:46.400
<v Staff>Phillip Miller.</v>

00:49:50.640 --> 00:49:51.653
Michael Wexler.

00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:55.223
Jeffrey Aronowitz.

00:49:59.160 --> 00:49:59.993
Bradley Sachs.

00:50:30.650 --> 00:50:32.250
You can begin when you're ready.

00:50:39.195 --> 00:50:40.890
<v Dr. Ellis>Mr. Sachs
if you're ready</v>

00:50:40.890 --> 00:50:43.293
to go ahead and take yourself
off mute, you may begin.

00:50:46.365 --> 00:50:48.603
<v ->Hi, Can you all hear me?</v>

00:50:49.530 --> 00:50:50.430
<v Dr. Ellis>Yes.</v>

00:50:51.287 --> 00:50:53.190
<v ->Hi, My name is Bradley Sachs.</v>

00:50:53.190 --> 00:50:55.850
I am a resident of Park Slope, Brooklyn.

00:50:55.850 --> 00:50:58.000
I'm one of Greenbrook's tenants.

00:50:58.000 --> 00:50:58.930
I'm here to talk to you all

00:50:58.930 --> 00:51:02.164
about Greenbrook Partners
and the NW1 investment.

00:51:02.164 --> 00:51:04.660
Greenbrook became my landlord last year

00:51:04.660 --> 00:51:05.970
when they purchased my building,

00:51:05.970 --> 00:51:08.480
as well as 80 others in my neighborhood.

00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:09.330
The first interaction

00:51:09.330 --> 00:51:12.040
that I had with them was
when I renewed my lease.

00:51:12.040 --> 00:51:14.040
When renewing, they increased my rent

00:51:14.040 --> 00:51:16.380
by 13%, which was strange,

00:51:16.380 --> 00:51:18.380
because this is at the
height of the pandemic,

00:51:18.380 --> 00:51:20.890
when most of my peers
living in New York City

00:51:20.890 --> 00:51:23.120
were getting their rent
lowered by their landlords,

00:51:23.120 --> 00:51:25.310
trying to encourage
them to stay occupants,

00:51:25.310 --> 00:51:28.500
my landlord was raising
the rent without reason.

00:51:28.500 --> 00:51:31.450
But we paid because we
had nowhere else to go.

00:51:31.450 --> 00:51:34.840
Then without warning, every
single non stabilized tenant

00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:36.230
in our building, our adjoining building,

00:51:36.230 --> 00:51:37.450
as well as dozens of other buildings

00:51:37.450 --> 00:51:40.430
in our neighborhood
received letters of non-renewal.

00:51:40.430 --> 00:51:41.690
Attempting to force everybody

00:51:41.690 --> 00:51:44.060
who wasn't stabilized out of our homes.

00:51:44.060 --> 00:51:44.893
Several weeks ago,

00:51:44.893 --> 00:51:47.730
it was my pleasure to show
Aicha Davis, around my building,

00:51:47.730 --> 00:51:50.120
and she told me that you
were sold this investment

00:51:50.120 --> 00:51:53.600
as an opportunity to
renovate dilapidated buildings.

00:51:53.600 --> 00:51:55.000
This is utterly false.

00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:56.060
She was stunned to discover

00:51:56.060 --> 00:51:58.270
that there were several
perfectly habitable apartment units

00:51:58.270 --> 00:52:00.080
sitting vacant my building alone,

00:52:00.080 --> 00:52:01.590
including units that had been empty

00:52:01.590 --> 00:52:03.820
since before Greenbrook
purchased the property,

00:52:03.820 --> 00:52:05.570
with no attempt to fill them.

00:52:05.570 --> 00:52:08.830
I consider Greenbrook be
a predatory landlord group

00:52:08.830 --> 00:52:11.080
who conduct practices
including, warrantless evictions,

00:52:11.080 --> 00:52:13.280
illegal rent increases
and harassing tenants

00:52:14.160 --> 00:52:16.110
and you are financially supporting them

00:52:17.200 --> 00:52:18.880
through the Permanent School Fund.

00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:21.070
Please divest from Greenbrook Partners.

00:52:21.070 --> 00:52:22.820
Kicking dozens of
families out of their homes

00:52:22.820 --> 00:52:23.653
for no reason
(bell rings)

00:52:23.653 --> 00:52:25.660
other than to maximize profit

00:52:25.660 --> 00:52:28.440
for yourselves is morally reprehensible.

00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:30.700
How would you feel if a
real estate conglomerate,

00:52:30.700 --> 00:52:32.100
funded with millions of dollars,

00:52:32.100 --> 00:52:34.240
from a distant state like California,

00:52:34.240 --> 00:52:35.880
kicked you and all of your neighbors out

00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:37.760
of your home for no reason.

00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:39.430
Would you support that?

00:52:39.430 --> 00:52:41.318
I don't think you would.

00:52:41.318 --> 00:52:43.440
And yeah, that's all I have to say.

00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:44.990
Thank you for hearing me today.

00:52:49.150 --> 00:52:50.400
<v Staff>Michael Wexler.</v>

00:53:06.290 --> 00:53:07.890
You can begin when you're ready.

00:53:09.794 --> 00:53:12.294
(indistinct)

00:53:21.500 --> 00:53:23.580
<v Staff>Mr. Wexler, you can
begin when you're ready.</v>

00:53:23.580 --> 00:53:24.630
Please come off mute.

00:53:30.560 --> 00:53:31.473
<v ->Hi there.</v>

00:53:33.120 --> 00:53:35.860
I would like to testify

00:53:35.860 --> 00:53:38.943
on behalf of my husband
and myself and our family.

00:53:40.110 --> 00:53:41.053
I can start now?

00:53:43.340 --> 00:53:46.289
<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->Ma'am are you Michael Wexler</v>

00:53:46.289 --> 00:53:47.970
<v ->This is my husband
Michael Wexler,</v>

00:53:47.970 --> 00:53:49.990
I'm Amanda Wexler, his wife.

00:53:51.625 --> 00:53:54.980
My name is Amanda
Wexler- (indistinct)

00:53:54.980 --> 00:53:56.321
<v ->2-8-5-</v>

00:53:56.321 --> 00:54:00.103
<v ->(indistinct) Can you hear me?</v>

00:54:02.500 --> 00:54:04.250
<v Dr. Ellis>Yes, we can hear you.</v>

00:54:05.740 --> 00:54:06.573
<v ->Okay.</v>

00:54:06.573 --> 00:54:07.790
Sorry, I was getting some feedback.

00:54:07.790 --> 00:54:09.300
Okay.

00:54:09.300 --> 00:54:12.410
We chose a two year lease
because we knew we wanted to stay

00:54:12.410 --> 00:54:15.000
at this apartment for a long
time and start our family.

00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:17.410
In July of 2020, we had our baby girl,

00:54:17.410 --> 00:54:19.910
and we got her set up
at a wonderful day-care

00:54:19.910 --> 00:54:22.810
across the street, which
became our community

00:54:22.810 --> 00:54:26.231
during the pandemic, when
community was hard to come by.

00:54:26.231 --> 00:54:28.140
We felt safe bringing her there,

00:54:28.140 --> 00:54:29.750
she was learning and thriving.

00:54:29.750 --> 00:54:30.923
In March of 2021,

00:54:30.923 --> 00:54:33.870
we received a notice of
non-renewal from our new landlord

00:54:33.870 --> 00:54:37.520
at Greenbrook NW1, operating
through McNair Management.

00:54:37.520 --> 00:54:38.620
Our heart sank.

00:54:38.620 --> 00:54:40.230
We had 90 days to pack our things,

00:54:40.230 --> 00:54:42.290
and leave the place we made our home.

00:54:42.290 --> 00:54:45.040
Our unit had just been got
renovated when we moved in,

00:54:45.040 --> 00:54:46.750
and we were paying market rate,

00:54:46.750 --> 00:54:50.210
on time, each month for our
apartment at $4,000 a month.

00:54:50.210 --> 00:54:51.300
So we could not fathom

00:54:51.300 --> 00:54:54.460
why our family was
being needlessly uprooted.

00:54:54.460 --> 00:54:56.520
We tried speaking with management

00:54:56.520 --> 00:54:59.190
to find out how much
they would be asking

00:54:59.190 --> 00:55:01.250
for per month, but they
wouldn't share that information

00:55:01.250 --> 00:55:03.650
with us, or give us
the opportunity to stay.

00:55:03.650 --> 00:55:05.450
The move was extremely stressful,

00:55:05.450 --> 00:55:06.890
and debilitating for our family

00:55:06.890 --> 00:55:08.040
at a time when we were trying

00:55:08.040 --> 00:55:11.000
to establish a sense of
stability for our daughter.

00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:13.240
The cost of the move
was wildly expensive,

00:55:13.240 --> 00:55:14.300
and there were no openings

00:55:14.300 --> 00:55:16.210
at day-cares in our new neighborhood.

00:55:16.210 --> 00:55:17.420
So up until recently,

00:55:17.420 --> 00:55:20.030
we were spending on
average two hours each day,

00:55:20.030 --> 00:55:22.743
commuting to and from
her day-care center,

00:55:22.743 --> 00:55:25.669
losing precious quality
time with our daughter.

00:55:25.669 --> 00:55:26.700
(bell rings)
And then the wheels

00:55:26.700 --> 00:55:27.710
really started coming off

00:55:27.710 --> 00:55:30.140
from the building and we
no longer felt safe there

00:55:30.140 --> 00:55:31.900
due to negligent management.

00:55:31.900 --> 00:55:33.630
We were without heat and hot water,

00:55:33.630 --> 00:55:35.740
most days in April,
when the temperatures

00:55:35.740 --> 00:55:38.700
at night were dropping
down into the 30's.

00:55:38.700 --> 00:55:40.560
Essential repairs to our apartment,

00:55:40.560 --> 00:55:43.000
we're not being- (indistinct)

00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:44.960
completely traumatizing.

00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:46.200
Our apartment had sat vacant

00:55:46.200 --> 00:55:48.730
for four months from the
time that we moved out,

00:55:48.730 --> 00:55:51.280
and I'm not even sure
that it is currently occupied.

00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:54.730
Greenbrook- (indistinct) unconscionable.

00:55:54.730 --> 00:55:55.725
Families int- (indistinct)

00:55:55.725 --> 00:55:57.860
(bell rings)

00:55:57.860 --> 00:55:59.680
from families and entire communities

00:55:59.680 --> 00:56:02.020
in Brooklyn being torn from their homes.

00:56:02.020 --> 00:56:04.880
We are paying a heavy
price for this investment,

00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:06.830
and we implore the Texas
Permanent School Fund

00:56:06.830 --> 00:56:08.850
to divest their holdings in Greenbrook.

00:56:08.850 --> 00:56:10.800
Thank you so much for hearing us today.

00:56:14.820 --> 00:56:16.270
<v Staff>Daniella Stromberg.</v>

00:56:23.500 --> 00:56:26.000
(indistinct)

00:56:28.211 --> 00:56:30.058
<v ->Ms. Stromberg please turn off</v>

00:56:30.058 --> 00:56:32.771
the live stream of the meeting.

00:56:32.771 --> 00:56:35.271
(indistinct)

00:56:37.539 --> 00:56:41.809
Ma'am please turn off the web stream.

00:56:41.809 --> 00:56:42.976
Ms. Stromberg,

00:56:49.490 --> 00:56:50.453
Ms. Stromberg.

00:56:59.860 --> 00:57:00.830
<v Dr. Ellis>Ms. Stromberg
if you're ready,</v>

00:57:00.830 --> 00:57:02.540
you may take yourself
off mute and begin.

00:57:02.540 --> 00:57:04.473
Please turn your livestream off.

00:57:10.580 --> 00:57:12.150
<v ->Hi.</v>

00:57:12.150 --> 00:57:15.710
I wanted all of you to know
a little bit about my story.

00:57:15.710 --> 00:57:18.563
I- (indistinct)

00:57:19.404 --> 00:57:20.404
<v Dr. Ellis>You're going</v>

00:57:20.404 --> 00:57:21.746
to need to turn your livestream off

00:57:21.746 --> 00:57:23.188
that you're listening to the meeting in.

00:57:23.188 --> 00:57:24.753
(indistinct)
<v ->Can you hear me?</v>

00:57:24.753 --> 00:57:25.832
<v Dr. Ellis>You're going</v>

00:57:25.832 --> 00:57:29.798
to need to turn your livestream off.

00:57:29.798 --> 00:57:32.584
<v ->Can you all here me okay?</v>
<v ->Please turn off</v>

00:57:32.584 --> 00:57:33.917
your livestream.

00:57:35.281 --> 00:57:38.012
<v ->Can you all here me okay?</v>
<v ->No.</v>

00:57:38.012 --> 00:57:39.653
<v ->Yes?</v>
<v ->Yes, we can hear you</v>

00:57:39.653 --> 00:57:41.490
but you're going to need
to turn your livestream off

00:57:41.490 --> 00:57:43.568
that you're listening to the
meeting on your computer.

00:57:43.568 --> 00:57:44.955
You need to turn your livestream off.

00:57:44.955 --> 00:57:45.980
<v ->I believe it is off.</v>

00:57:45.980 --> 00:57:49.100
Do you hear the feedback now?
<v ->No, we don't now.</v>

00:57:49.100 --> 00:57:50.730
<v ->Okay, terrific.</v>

00:57:50.730 --> 00:57:52.977
I wanted you to know a
little bit about my story.

00:57:52.977 --> 00:57:55.840
I actually was not a residential tenant,

00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:59.640
but I owned a very successful business,

00:57:59.640 --> 00:58:02.050
in a building purchased by Greenbrook

00:58:02.050 --> 00:58:05.990
at the very beginning
of the pandemic in 2020.

00:58:05.990 --> 00:58:08.600
My day spa was 18 years old

00:58:08.600 --> 00:58:10.960
and it was the kind of
business that I imagine

00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:15.323
most of you would want
in one of your communities.

00:58:15.323 --> 00:58:19.940
In an industry that has
less than two year turnover,

00:58:19.940 --> 00:58:23.090
my 36 employees were with me

00:58:24.025 --> 00:58:27.650
for 18 years, 16 years, 12 years.

00:58:27.650 --> 00:58:29.530
I didn't have a staff member

00:58:29.530 --> 00:58:34.380
that was under my employment
for less than 10 years.

00:58:34.380 --> 00:58:38.683
We were sort of what you'd
call a neighborhood institution.

00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:42.100
And then COVID happened.

00:58:42.100 --> 00:58:45.450
And then we were shuttered
for five and a half months.

00:58:45.450 --> 00:58:47.480
And then when we reopened,

00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:52.385
we reopened with some very
strict government limitations

00:58:52.385 --> 00:58:55.653
on how we could do business.

00:58:57.200 --> 00:59:00.511
When once we were able to do

00:59:00.511 --> 00:59:03.870
eight treatments every 75 minutes,

00:59:03.870 --> 00:59:08.330
we could only do two
treatments every 90 minutes.

00:59:08.330 --> 00:59:13.330
So my $30,000 a month rent
became very difficult to attain.

00:59:16.630 --> 00:59:19.770
I began reaching out to my landlord,

00:59:19.770 --> 00:59:21.686
I didn't know
(bell rings)

00:59:21.686 --> 00:59:22.933
that I had a new landlord.

00:59:23.862 --> 00:59:25.380
But on March 13th

00:59:29.493 --> 00:59:30.810
and after more than a dozen attempts

00:59:30.810 --> 00:59:34.810
of emails, snail mails, voicemails,

00:59:34.810 --> 00:59:39.750
certified mail, including
letters from my attorney,

00:59:39.750 --> 00:59:44.750
I had absolutely no success
at receiving rent relief

00:59:45.100 --> 00:59:47.600
of any kind from Greg Fournier,

00:59:47.600 --> 00:59:51.250
the Principal at Greenbrook Partners.

00:59:51.250 --> 00:59:53.129
And there was no way

00:59:53.129 --> 00:59:54.929
(bell rings)
to make the math work.

00:59:55.900 --> 00:59:57.220
I at that time had

00:59:57.220 --> 00:59:59.150
11 months left on my lease
<v ->Ma'am that's your time</v>

00:59:59.150 --> 01:00:00.750
we thank you for your testimony.

01:00:11.770 --> 01:00:13.170
<v Staff>Jeffrey Aronowitz.</v>

01:00:32.410 --> 01:00:33.963
You may begin when you're ready.

01:00:45.650 --> 01:00:47.500
<v Staff 2>Mr. Aronowitz
please come off mute,</v>

01:00:47.500 --> 01:00:48.900
and begin when you're ready.

01:00:58.690 --> 01:01:01.350
<v Mr. Aronowitz>You
need me to testify now?</v>

01:01:01.350 --> 01:01:03.383
<v Staff 2>Yes sir, please
begin when you're ready.</v>

01:01:04.940 --> 01:01:06.670
<v Mr. Aronowitz>Okay.</v>

01:01:06.670 --> 01:01:09.700
I hear something in the background.

01:01:09.700 --> 01:01:10.533
Okay.

01:01:11.960 --> 01:01:14.970
Hello, thank you for
allowing me to testify.

01:01:14.970 --> 01:01:18.410
I am Jeffrey Aronowitz,
lead tenant organizer

01:01:18.410 --> 01:01:21.690
of the Fifth Avenue
Committee also known as FAC.

01:01:21.690 --> 01:01:25.050
FAC is a 43 year old community
development corporation

01:01:25.050 --> 01:01:26.730
based in south Brooklyn, New York.

01:01:26.730 --> 01:01:28.720
Whose mission is to advance economic,

01:01:28.720 --> 01:01:31.060
social and racial justice.

01:01:31.060 --> 01:01:36.060
FAC is also an owner of
598 affordable housing units,

01:01:36.280 --> 01:01:38.800
manages 454 of them,

01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:42.930
and has built 133
affordable housing buildings

01:01:42.930 --> 01:01:45.210
over the past 30 years.

01:01:45.210 --> 01:01:47.760
I'm not only testifying
on behalf of FAC,

01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:50.750
but also for one of the
coalitions it is a member of,

01:01:50.750 --> 01:01:53.350
named Stabilizing NYC.

01:01:53.350 --> 01:01:55.600
Stabilizing NYC is comprised

01:01:55.600 --> 01:01:58.960
of 20 New York City based organizations

01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:01.210
that help tenants hold landlords

01:02:01.210 --> 01:02:04.370
who use predatory equity accountable.

01:02:04.370 --> 01:02:06.510
I mention that, because we are aware

01:02:06.510 --> 01:02:08.920
of how the Texas State Board of Ed.

01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:10.840
is responsible for investing

01:02:12.285 --> 01:02:14.760
in the Texas Permanent School Fund,

01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:16.680
which invested a hundred million

01:02:16.680 --> 01:02:20.010
in a private equity firm called NW1,

01:02:20.010 --> 01:02:23.100
which in turn, invested that
money in a Brooklyn-based

01:02:23.100 --> 01:02:26.730
private equity firm named
Greenbrook Partners,

01:02:26.730 --> 01:02:30.580
who used that money to
recently become a landlord

01:02:30.580 --> 01:02:33.360
who is using various harassment tactics

01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:35.133
to push rent stabilized tenants

01:02:35.133 --> 01:02:36.810
out of their homes,
(bell rings)

01:02:36.810 --> 01:02:41.660
by doing things like issuing
multiple vacate orders

01:02:42.665 --> 01:02:46.830
during the pandemic despite
New York's eviction moratorium.

01:02:46.830 --> 01:02:48.600
I'm here to inform the board,

01:02:48.600 --> 01:02:52.900
that we recognize Greenbook
Partners as a predatory landlord

01:02:52.900 --> 01:02:55.920
using a business model
that cannot succeed

01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:59.980
without removing rent stabilized
tenants from their homes

01:02:59.980 --> 01:03:04.090
while removing the rent
stabilization status of apartments

01:03:04.090 --> 01:03:07.580
that were originally made
with the intent of ensuring

01:03:07.580 --> 01:03:09.400
affordable housing.
(bell rings)

01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:13.050
There are other models that
can be used that bring about a

01:03:13.050 --> 01:03:14.882
return of investment
<v ->Sir, that's your time.</v>

01:03:14.882 --> 01:03:16.355
<v ->While ensuring
stability of it's tenant.</v>

01:03:16.355 --> 01:03:19.817
Please
<v ->Sir, that's your time.</v>

01:03:19.817 --> 01:03:22.137
<v ->Either divest from the
Greenbook Partners portfolio,</v>

01:03:22.137 --> 01:03:25.603
or contact me to review other options.

01:03:26.580 --> 01:03:27.413
<v Dr. Ellis>Thank you.</v>

01:03:35.214 --> 01:03:37.381
<v Staff>Nicole Krishtul.</v>

01:03:56.390 --> 01:03:57.990
You may begin when you're ready.

01:04:24.730 --> 01:04:28.040
<v ->Hello again everyone, thank
you for having me back here.</v>

01:04:28.040 --> 01:04:29.120
I just want to say to the board,

01:04:29.120 --> 01:04:30.360
thank you so much for listening

01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:32.650
to the testimony of all these tenants.

01:04:32.650 --> 01:04:33.483
I'm a community liaison

01:04:33.483 --> 01:04:35.420
with Council Member
Bran Landon's office.

01:04:35.420 --> 01:04:38.850
I just wanted to stress
that from this testimony

01:04:38.850 --> 01:04:39.898
working-
<v ->You may begin</v>

01:04:39.898 --> 01:04:41.043
when you're ready.

01:04:42.125 --> 01:04:43.710
<v ->Hi, Can you hear me?</v>

01:04:43.710 --> 01:04:45.760
<v Staff 2>Can you please
turn off the livestream</v>

01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:47.660
if you're watching online,

01:04:47.660 --> 01:04:49.503
because you're going to get feedback.

01:04:52.430 --> 01:04:53.721
Better, thank you.

01:04:53.721 --> 01:04:56.221
(indistinct)

01:04:57.485 --> 01:04:59.416
(indistinct) to my testimony back then,

01:04:59.416 --> 01:05:01.075
I'm glad to be back on

01:05:01.075 --> 01:05:01.908
with the opportunity
to speak to you all.

01:05:01.908 --> 01:05:04.230
I just wanted to reiterate,
that from the testimony,

01:05:04.230 --> 01:05:06.490
these tenants aren't
even hearing the full story

01:05:06.490 --> 01:05:07.999
of what's been going on.

01:05:07.999 --> 01:05:10.499
(indistinct)

01:05:17.862 --> 01:05:18.743
<v Dr. Ellis>I think the problem is</v>

01:05:18.743 --> 01:05:20.240
that she has her livestream on,

01:05:20.240 --> 01:05:21.890
so we asked her to turn that off.

01:05:27.140 --> 01:05:28.800
<v ->Great, so sorry about that.</v>

01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:31.210
Just wanted to reiterate,
you're not hearing full testimony

01:05:31.210 --> 01:05:32.930
from these folks in the
span of two minutes.

01:05:32.930 --> 01:05:35.190
You're not hearing about the
incredible amount of harassment

01:05:35.190 --> 01:05:37.363
that Danielle's Stromberg
received from Greenbrook Partners.

01:05:37.363 --> 01:05:39.130
You aren't hearing from the tenants

01:05:39.130 --> 01:05:40.470
who were going to chemotherapy,

01:05:40.470 --> 01:05:42.280
and all of a sudden received a notice

01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:43.860
of non-renewal for their lease.

01:05:43.860 --> 01:05:45.980
From all these different
tenants who had absolutely no

01:05:45.980 --> 01:05:48.730
where to go and had to
scramble to find a new home.

01:05:48.730 --> 01:05:51.160
So I just wanted to say
that you're just getting

01:05:51.160 --> 01:05:53.030
a small snippet of
all the different stories

01:05:53.030 --> 01:05:55.600
that we've been getting about
the folks who've experienced

01:05:55.600 --> 01:05:57.780
this sort of harassment
from Greenbrook Partners.

01:05:57.780 --> 01:06:01.420
Sometimes, every single week,
a new constituent reaches out

01:06:01.420 --> 01:06:03.840
to our office to tell us
about the horrible experience

01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:05.040
that they've had with them.

01:06:05.040 --> 01:06:05.873
So again thank you

01:06:05.873 --> 01:06:07.940
for diligently listening
to their stories.

01:06:07.940 --> 01:06:08.773
And we ask that you

01:06:08.773 --> 01:06:11.330
please scrutinize this
investment carefully,

01:06:11.330 --> 01:06:13.610
and think about
whether it's truly worth it.

01:06:13.610 --> 01:06:14.443
And then please,

01:06:14.443 --> 01:06:17.530
make the decision to divest
from Greenbrook and NW1.

01:06:17.530 --> 01:06:18.363
Thank you.

01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:23.270
<v Staff>Dr. Tommie Smith.</v>

01:06:28.147 --> 01:06:30.647
(indistinct)

01:06:33.386 --> 01:06:34.220
<v Staff 2>Hi Dr. Smith,</v>

01:06:34.220 --> 01:06:38.000
please turn off the livestream
that you're watching.

01:06:46.523 --> 01:06:49.610
(indistinct)

01:06:49.610 --> 01:06:53.940
Dr. Smith, please mute
or turn off the livestream

01:06:53.940 --> 01:06:55.860
of the meeting that you're watching,

01:06:55.860 --> 01:06:58.310
and then you can unmute
and begin your testimony.

01:07:03.640 --> 01:07:05.593
<v ->Good morning, can
everybody hear me?</v>

01:07:07.270 --> 01:07:08.170
<v Dr. Ellis>Yes.</v>

01:07:09.300 --> 01:07:11.200
<v ->As she said, my
name is Dr. Smith.</v>

01:07:11.200 --> 01:07:13.050
I just wanted to take a quick moment,

01:07:14.210 --> 01:07:15.930
while my testimony is not

01:07:17.325 --> 01:07:21.210
on Greenbook, it is
concerning just moving forward

01:07:21.210 --> 01:07:22.600
in this body, considering,

01:07:22.600 --> 01:07:24.670
and referring to some
things as they move forward.

01:07:24.670 --> 01:07:27.810
Right now, critical
race theory is a hot topic

01:07:27.810 --> 01:07:30.920
moving throughout the state,
moving throughout classrooms.

01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:33.130
I just want you to take care

01:07:33.130 --> 01:07:34.910
when you're referring
to critical race theory,

01:07:34.910 --> 01:07:37.750
to be sure to refer it just as that.

01:07:37.750 --> 01:07:42.750
Rather than CRT, because
CRT can easily also abbreviate

01:07:43.780 --> 01:07:46.240
culturally responsive teaching.

01:07:46.240 --> 01:07:48.370
And as districts have diversity,

01:07:48.370 --> 01:07:50.990
equity and inclusion
initiatives going on,

01:07:50.990 --> 01:07:54.060
culturally responsive
teaching maybe a part of that.

01:07:54.060 --> 01:07:55.805
And I just don't want

01:07:55.805 --> 01:08:00.040
an educator, or an administrative
leader to get bogged down

01:08:00.040 --> 01:08:03.290
in the abbreviation of CRT.

01:08:03.290 --> 01:08:04.360
Thank you for your time.

01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:06.273
Again, my name is Dr. Tommie Smith.

01:08:08.170 --> 01:08:09.003
<v Dr. Ellis>Thank you,</v>

01:08:09.003 --> 01:08:12.113
and I believe that concludes
our public testimony for today.

01:08:12.980 --> 01:08:14.930
We will move on to item number two,

01:08:14.930 --> 01:08:17.890
which is the approval
of the Consent Agenda.

01:08:17.890 --> 01:08:19.190
So the next business in order

01:08:19.190 --> 01:08:20.690
is the approval of the Consent Agenda

01:08:20.690 --> 01:08:22.470
it has been distributed to each of you.

01:08:22.470 --> 01:08:23.340
Please take a moment

01:08:23.340 --> 01:08:25.890
to review the items on
the Consent Agenda.

01:08:25.890 --> 01:08:28.600
I will point out that number 3,

01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:31.490
the proposed amendments
to 19 TAC Chapter 1-0-9

01:08:31.490 --> 01:08:33.490
were removed by the committee yesterday.

01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:38.140
Are there any items to be
removed from the Consent Agenda

01:08:38.140 --> 01:08:39.490
for separate consideration?

01:08:43.300 --> 01:08:46.764
Hearing none, the
Consent Agenda is adopted.

01:08:46.764 --> 01:08:48.210
All right we will now move

01:08:48.210 --> 01:08:49.530
to the Committee of the Full board.

01:08:49.530 --> 01:08:54.110
Item number 3 is proposed
new 19 TAC Chapter 127,

01:08:54.110 --> 01:08:56.400
Texas Essential Knowledge
and Skills for Career Development,

01:08:56.400 --> 01:08:58.240
Subchapter G, Education

01:08:58.240 --> 01:09:01.300
and Training, Subchapter
I, Health Science,

01:09:01.300 --> 01:09:03.670
Subchapter J, Hospitality

01:09:03.670 --> 01:09:05.840
and Tourism, Subchapter
M, Law and Public Service,

01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:07.780
and Subchapter O, Science, Technology,

01:09:07.780 --> 01:09:08.670
Engineering, and Math.

01:09:08.670 --> 01:09:10.820
This is for first reading
and filing authorizations

01:09:10.820 --> 01:09:14.113
on your agenda on page I
dash 7, I will call on Ms. Little.

01:09:15.550 --> 01:09:16.932
<v Ms. Little>Mr. Chair,</v>

01:09:16.932 --> 01:09:18.353
the Committee of the
Full board recommends

01:09:18.353 --> 01:09:20.340
that the State Board of Education

01:09:20.340 --> 01:09:23.860
approve for first reading
and filing authorization,

01:09:23.860 --> 01:09:28.860
proposed new 19 TAC Chapter
1 27, Texas Essential Knowledge

01:09:29.280 --> 01:09:34.040
and Skills for Career Development,
Subchapter G Education

01:09:34.040 --> 01:09:39.040
and Training number 1-2-7
point 3-1-5, 1-2-7 point 3-1-6,

01:09:40.080 --> 01:09:45.080
1-2-7 point 3-1-9
through 1-2-7 point 3-2-1

01:09:46.010 --> 01:09:51.010
and 1-2-7 point 3-2-4
through 1-2-7 point 3-2-6.

01:09:52.580 --> 01:09:55.220
Subchapter I, Health Science

01:09:56.420 --> 01:10:01.420
1-2-7 point 4-1-6
through 1-2-7 point 4-3-3.

01:10:02.070 --> 01:10:04.356
Subchapter J, Hospitality

01:10:04.356 --> 01:10:09.356
and Tourism, 1-2-7 point
4-8 and 1-2-4 point 4-8-2.

01:10:10.740 --> 01:10:14.300
Subchapter M, Law and Public Service,

01:10:14.300 --> 01:10:19.300
number 1-2-7 point 6-5
and 1-2-7 point 6-5-2.

01:10:20.060 --> 01:10:23.430
And Subchapter O, Science,
Technology, Engineering,

01:10:23.430 --> 01:10:27.286
and Mathematics, 1-2-7 point 7-7-7

01:10:27.286 --> 01:10:32.286
through 1-2-7 point
7-8-2 and 1-2-7 point 7-8-5

01:10:33.460 --> 01:10:35.977
through 1-2-7 point 7-8-7.

01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:40.121
<v ->Got your math lesson
in there for the day.</v>

01:10:40.121 --> 01:10:41.890
(chuckles)

01:10:41.890 --> 01:10:44.180
All right, members, is there any debate

01:10:44.180 --> 01:10:45.803
on this item, Mr. Hickman?

01:10:46.900 --> 01:10:48.939
<v ->Just a comment from me,</v>

01:10:48.939 --> 01:10:50.420
I enjoyed hearing from
the content advisors,

01:10:50.420 --> 01:10:52.110
but I would say we heard very little

01:10:52.110 --> 01:10:53.870
from the public and
we spent very little time

01:10:53.870 --> 01:10:56.940
on this, so I would just like
to hear from the work groups,

01:10:56.940 --> 01:10:59.170
content advisors, educators, parents,

01:10:59.170 --> 01:11:00.590
be sure we're getting all this right

01:11:00.590 --> 01:11:02.460
before our next meeting.

01:11:02.460 --> 01:11:06.910
<v ->You're putting that
information out to the ecosystem.</v>

01:11:06.910 --> 01:11:08.420
<v ->Yep.</v>
<v ->To respond back to us</v>

01:11:08.420 --> 01:11:11.100
with any changes and
suggestions and any amendments.

01:11:11.100 --> 01:11:12.070
<v ->These are a lot of courses,</v>

01:11:12.070 --> 01:11:15.090
and I think they're important,
so I'd like to hear more.

01:11:15.090 --> 01:11:16.350
<v ->Absolutely.</v>

01:11:16.350 --> 01:11:17.860
And just for everyone listening,

01:11:17.860 --> 01:11:19.930
a lot of them have our contact,

01:11:19.930 --> 01:11:21.220
but if you don't any information

01:11:21.220 --> 01:11:22.550
that wants to come to us, you may send

01:11:22.550 --> 01:11:27.550
to S-B-O-E support at
T-E-A dot Texas dot g-o-v.

01:11:30.890 --> 01:11:32.690
Okay, any other debate on that item?

01:11:33.860 --> 01:11:35.793
All right, is there any objection?

01:11:37.040 --> 01:11:39.153
Oh, I'm sorry, Dr. Bell-Metereau.

01:11:40.350 --> 01:11:42.530
<v ->I just want to apologize</v>

01:11:42.530 --> 01:11:47.530
to anyone who has been
sending me any materials,

01:11:48.205 --> 01:11:51.330
assuming that I, as a new member,

01:11:51.330 --> 01:11:55.420
understand the process of
how to get something promoted,

01:11:55.420 --> 01:11:58.760
because I have not, and
that is my responsibility,

01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:01.150
I'm sure in the tons of reading

01:12:01.150 --> 01:12:04.730
that I had to do, those
instructions were someplace,

01:12:04.730 --> 01:12:07.510
but I think that many people

01:12:07.510 --> 01:12:11.290
who are new to the board
or who are citizens out there

01:12:11.290 --> 01:12:14.500
in the world, have a
difficult time dealing

01:12:14.500 --> 01:12:16.950
with the complexity and as you can see,

01:12:16.950 --> 01:12:21.950
even testifying online, a
number of people had problems.

01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:25.950
So I just want to concur

01:12:26.830 --> 01:12:31.830
with my fellow member,

01:12:32.250 --> 01:12:34.560
that these are important courses,

01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:35.760
and we need to pay attention

01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:38.610
to them and we need to have the time

01:12:40.025 --> 01:12:41.340
to consider carefully comments

01:12:41.340 --> 01:12:45.490
from the public and from
professional organizations.

01:12:45.490 --> 01:12:46.323
Thank you.

01:12:47.668 --> 01:12:48.800
<v ->Thank you, Dr. Bell-Metereau.</v>

01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:51.630
Any other comments from members?

01:12:51.630 --> 01:12:53.163
Any other debate?

01:12:54.700 --> 01:12:56.430
I'm hearing none.

01:12:56.430 --> 01:12:58.413
So is there any objection?

01:13:00.170 --> 01:13:02.683
Hearing and seeing
none, the motion carries.

01:13:03.540 --> 01:13:04.720
So there is a majority

01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:06.870
in favor and the
recommendation is adopted.

01:13:12.170 --> 01:13:14.380
We'll now move to item number 4,

01:13:14.380 --> 01:13:17.960
proposed new 19 TAC Chapter
112, Texas Essential Knowledge

01:13:17.960 --> 01:13:20.520
and Skills for Science,
Subchapter A, Elementary,

01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:22.870
112 dot 1 through 112 dot 7,

01:13:22.870 --> 01:13:24.750
and Subchapter B, Middle School,

01:13:24.750 --> 01:13:27.040
112 dot 25 through 112 dot 28.

01:13:27.040 --> 01:13:29.570
This is first reading
and filing authorization.

01:13:29.570 --> 01:13:31.220
It's on your agenda on page I dash 11,

01:13:31.220 --> 01:13:32.440
I'll call on Ms. Little.

01:13:35.050 --> 01:13:37.620
<v ->Mr. Chair, the Committee
of the Full board recommends</v>

01:13:37.620 --> 01:13:41.785
that the State Board of
Education approve for first reading

01:13:41.785 --> 01:13:46.407
and filing authorization,
proposed new 19 TAC Chapter 112,

01:13:47.380 --> 01:13:48.610
Texas Essential Knowledge

01:13:48.610 --> 01:13:52.970
and Skills for Science,
Subchapter A, Elementary,

01:13:52.970 --> 01:13:56.540
1-1-2 point 1, implementation

01:13:56.540 --> 01:13:58.250
of the Texas Essential Knowledge

01:13:58.250 --> 01:14:01.163
and Skills for Science,
Elementary adopted 2021.

01:14:02.350 --> 01:14:07.350
Number 1-1-2 point 2, Science,
Kindergarten, adopted 2021,

01:14:09.060 --> 01:14:14.060
1-1-2 point 3, Science,
Grade 1, adopted 2021,

01:14:14.495 --> 01:14:19.495
1-1-2 point 4, Science,
Grade 2, adopted 2021,

01:14:20.810 --> 01:14:25.810
number 1-1-2 point 5,
Science, Grade 3, adopted 2021,

01:14:26.586 --> 01:14:31.586
1-1-2 point 6, Science,
Grade 4, adopted 2021,

01:14:31.666 --> 01:14:36.666
1-1-2 point 7, Science,
Grade 5, adopted 2021,

01:14:38.370 --> 01:14:43.150
and Subchapter B, Middle
School, number 1-1-2 point 2-5

01:14:43.150 --> 01:14:45.510
implementation of the
Texas Essential Knowledge

01:14:45.510 --> 01:14:49.780
and Skills for Science
Middle School adopted 2021,

01:14:49.780 --> 01:14:51.213
number 1-1-2 point 2-6,

01:14:52.130 --> 01:14:56.393
Science, Grade 6, adopted
2021, number 1-1-2 point 2-7,

01:14:57.640 --> 01:15:02.640
Science, Grade 7, adopted
2021 and 1-1-2 point 2-8,

01:15:03.153 --> 01:15:08.113
Science, Grade 8,
adopted 2021, as amended.

01:15:10.210 --> 01:15:11.090
<v Staff>Dr. Ellis.</v>

01:15:11.090 --> 01:15:11.923
<v Dr. Ellis>Yes?</v>

01:15:11.923 --> 01:15:13.530
<v ->I did want to point
out just very briefly,</v>

01:15:13.530 --> 01:15:16.630
that on your desks,
you'll find the rule text,

01:15:16.630 --> 01:15:20.163
that reflects amendments
that were made on Wednesday.

01:15:22.830 --> 01:15:23.663
<v ->Thank you.</v>

01:15:25.230 --> 01:15:28.110
All right, What we'll go through
now is there any discussion

01:15:28.110 --> 01:15:28.943
from members?

01:15:28.943 --> 01:15:30.020
I'll call on Ms. Hardy.

01:15:31.400 --> 01:15:36.400
<v ->Yes, I would like to
amend the 8-11 B to read-</v>

01:15:38.760 --> 01:15:40.760
<v ->Hold on just a second.</v>

01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:42.560
<v ->It's at the bottom
of page eight</v>

01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:46.542
in your stuff we had.

01:15:46.542 --> 01:15:47.880
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:49.870
The rule text we just
received with the amendments

01:15:49.870 --> 01:15:51.720
don't have page numbers, I don't see.

01:15:52.559 --> 01:15:55.271
So let's start with,
what grade are we on?

01:15:55.271 --> 01:15:56.104
<v Ms. Hardy>Eighth.</v>

01:15:56.104 --> 01:15:57.423
<v ->Okay, so we're on eighth grade.</v>

01:15:59.590 --> 01:16:02.940
<v Ms. Hardy>11 A, I mean 11 b.</v>

01:16:02.940 --> 01:16:04.492
<v ->Eight?</v>

01:16:04.492 --> 01:16:05.640
<v Member>Is it the last page?</v>

01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:07.320
<v Ms. Hardy>Yes, last page.</v>

01:16:07.320 --> 01:16:10.080
I've marked up another
page, so I can't switch to the-

01:16:10.080 --> 01:16:10.913
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:16:10.913 --> 01:16:12.143
So members, we're on eighth grade,

01:16:14.080 --> 01:16:17.253
number 11, B
<v ->B.</v>

01:16:20.040 --> 01:16:22.813
<v ->Hold for just a second while
everyone gets the rule text.</v>

01:16:35.889 --> 01:16:39.110
All right, is anybody
having trouble finding that?

01:16:39.110 --> 01:16:40.673
Are we all pretty close?

01:16:42.490 --> 01:16:44.500
It's on the middle school packet.

01:16:44.500 --> 01:16:47.024
Very last page of the
middle school packet.

01:16:47.024 --> 01:16:47.857
<v Member 2>Last page?</v>

01:16:47.857 --> 01:16:49.393
<v Dr. Ellis>Yeah, very last page.</v>

01:16:51.330 --> 01:16:53.080
<v Member 3>And you said B?</v>

01:16:53.080 --> 01:16:55.035
<v Member 4>B, yes Ma'am.</v>

01:16:55.035 --> 01:16:57.390
<v Dr. Ellis>All right,
go ahead Ms. Hardy.</v>

01:16:57.390 --> 01:17:00.180
<v ->I would like to
amend that to read:</v>

01:17:00.180 --> 01:17:03.330
Use scientific evidence to
describe how human activities

01:17:03.330 --> 01:17:06.200
can influence climates
such as the release

01:17:06.200 --> 01:17:10.003
of greenhouse gasses,
deforestation and urbanization.

01:17:12.003 --> 01:17:14.503
(indistinct)

01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:17.281
Got a second.

01:17:17.281 --> 01:17:19.110
<v ->A motion to second,</v>

01:17:19.110 --> 01:17:21.414
I'm going to give Ms.
Kay just a second to-

01:17:21.414 --> 01:17:22.910
<v Member 5>I was about</v>

01:17:24.104 --> 01:17:27.710
to say, can you read that for me again?

01:17:27.710 --> 01:17:29.185
<v Ms. Hardy>Yes.</v>

01:17:29.185 --> 01:17:33.479
Use Scientific Evidence
<v ->Microphone.</v>

01:17:33.479 --> 01:17:36.950
<v Ms. Hardy>Use scientific
evidence to describe</v>

01:17:36.950 --> 01:17:40.240
how human activities can
influence climate change

01:17:40.240 --> 01:17:43.420
such as the release
of greenhouse gasses,

01:17:43.420 --> 01:17:45.793
deforestation and urbanization.

01:17:49.710 --> 01:17:51.309
<v Dr. Ellis>Mr. Hickman.</v>

01:17:51.309 --> 01:17:52.753
<v Mr. Hickman>I have a
question for Shelley.</v>

01:17:53.690 --> 01:17:56.650
If I heard correctly during the week,

01:17:56.650 --> 01:18:00.400
such as and including are
terms of art, including means

01:18:00.400 --> 01:18:03.210
that it has to be covered
and such as, are examples

01:18:03.210 --> 01:18:05.990
of the types of things that
can be covered, is that right?

01:18:05.990 --> 01:18:07.290
<v Shelly>That is correct, yes, sir.</v>

01:18:07.290 --> 01:18:08.153
<v Mr. Hickman>Okay.</v>

01:18:09.690 --> 01:18:11.190
<v Dr. Ellis>Yes, I'm going
to let Ms. Hardy speak</v>

01:18:11.190 --> 01:18:13.660
to the motion and I'm not
sure what other members have

01:18:13.660 --> 01:18:14.840
for amendments today.

01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:17.044
I would say that typically,

01:18:17.044 --> 01:18:20.440
our protocol has been to have
the discussions and the items

01:18:20.440 --> 01:18:23.700
on our discussion item
during the week previously,

01:18:23.700 --> 01:18:25.500
we do have the opportunity on Friday.

01:18:25.500 --> 01:18:28.520
Historically, we have not
made major changes on Friday.

01:18:28.520 --> 01:18:31.428
It is open for these
amendments, but you know,

01:18:31.428 --> 01:18:35.200
I've said this personally,
typically on Friday,

01:18:35.200 --> 01:18:37.430
for me, it's a much higher
bar to make amendments

01:18:37.430 --> 01:18:40.460
on Friday as we had that time
during the week Wednesday.

01:18:40.460 --> 01:18:41.748
So I'll just say that.

01:18:41.748 --> 01:18:42.748
And like I said,

01:18:42.748 --> 01:18:43.890
I don't know who else has
got other amendments today,

01:18:43.890 --> 01:18:45.150
but I'll just make that point.

01:18:45.150 --> 01:18:47.680
Ms. Hardy, go ahead and
speak to your amendment.

01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:49.930
<v Ms. Hardy>We were
stumped on the verbiage</v>

01:18:51.085 --> 01:18:54.450
on this one on Wednesday
and reading it again,

01:18:54.450 --> 01:18:59.180
I think it's dangerous,
one to put a year, 150 years

01:18:59.180 --> 01:19:00.770
in there, because
you're going to be looking

01:19:00.770 --> 01:19:03.910
further back to when
you're looking for evidence,

01:19:03.910 --> 01:19:07.240
and scientific evidence goes
way back on this sort of thing.

01:19:07.240 --> 01:19:09.620
So that is very limiting.

01:19:09.620 --> 01:19:14.620
And the idea is to
describe human activities.

01:19:15.750 --> 01:19:19.290
And I think that what I
presented is a simpler,

01:19:19.290 --> 01:19:23.887
easier way to get to that
goal of what human activities

01:19:23.887 --> 01:19:27.437
result in climate, influencing climate.

01:19:27.437 --> 01:19:30.090
And that would be
the greenhouse effects,

01:19:30.090 --> 01:19:32.840
the deforestation,
urbanization, there's others,

01:19:32.840 --> 01:19:36.530
but that would be about an
eighth grade level to work with.

01:19:36.530 --> 01:19:40.157
So that's why I would
make that a motion.

01:19:40.157 --> 01:19:40.990
<v Dr. Ellis>We got, Ms. Perez-Diaz,</v>

01:19:40.990 --> 01:19:41.900
Ms. Davis, Dr. Robinson.

01:19:43.250 --> 01:19:44.083
<v Ms. Perez-Diaz>Thank
you, chairman.</v>

01:19:44.083 --> 01:19:45.810
So I would speak against this motion,

01:19:45.810 --> 01:19:49.340
because earlier in the week,
we had a conversation regarding

01:19:49.340 --> 01:19:52.900
the importance of specifically
identifying the 150 years,

01:19:52.900 --> 01:19:54.550
that's the Industrial Revolution,

01:19:55.630 --> 01:19:58.897
and speaking through the
impact of what that means.

01:19:58.897 --> 01:20:03.897
I also, it changes the
intent of what I originally

01:20:03.990 --> 01:20:06.190
had in mind in terms of

01:20:06.190 --> 01:20:08.120
ensuring that we do specifically speak

01:20:08.120 --> 01:20:13.120
about greenhouse
gasses, and I don't support

01:20:14.230 --> 01:20:16.693
the re inclusion of the
word can, because again,

01:20:18.477 --> 01:20:22.043
we spoke at length about
the impact that we know these,

01:20:24.650 --> 01:20:27.230
the release of greenhouse
gas and you know,

01:20:27.230 --> 01:20:29.720
I'm okay with deforestation
and urbanization

01:20:29.720 --> 01:20:31.670
and the impact that has on the climate,

01:20:32.780 --> 01:20:35.720
but to say that it can
doesn't specifically speak

01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:37.490
to the fact that it actually does.

01:20:37.490 --> 01:20:41.113
So I speak against the
re inclusion of can as well.

01:20:44.520 --> 01:20:45.915
<v Ms. Davis>I have to agree</v>

01:20:45.915 --> 01:20:47.300
with my colleague and
respectfully go against this.

01:20:47.300 --> 01:20:49.910
When we had very in-depth conversation

01:20:49.910 --> 01:20:52.640
about the importance of
keeping in that 150 years.

01:20:52.640 --> 01:20:55.020
So we can have students
specifically focused on

01:20:55.020 --> 01:20:56.990
that industrialization
and things like that.

01:20:56.990 --> 01:20:58.270
So it was very important

01:20:58.270 --> 01:21:01.840
to the content and we had
very deep discussion about that.

01:21:01.840 --> 01:21:04.390
So I hope that you all remember

01:21:04.390 --> 01:21:05.890
some of those things
that we talked about,

01:21:05.890 --> 01:21:08.373
and respectfully vote
against this amendment.

01:21:10.980 --> 01:21:12.840
<v Dr. Robinson>Yeah,
remember, Hardy?</v>

01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:15.590
You were wanting to take this
back to how it was basically,

01:21:15.590 --> 01:21:19.200
you're wanting to completely
rehash what we did Wednesday.

01:21:19.200 --> 01:21:22.290
I think we talked about it
at length on Wednesday,

01:21:22.290 --> 01:21:25.053
so I'm not sure what the
point of doing this now is.

01:21:30.290 --> 01:21:33.740
<v Member>I would like to
concur with my colleagues,</v>

01:21:33.740 --> 01:21:38.740
the work group listened
primarily to the Energy Council,

01:21:39.330 --> 01:21:43.050
which represents fossil fuel interests,

01:21:43.050 --> 01:21:44.780
commercial interests,

01:21:44.780 --> 01:21:49.300
and a number of my colleagues
have expressed concern

01:21:49.300 --> 01:21:54.300
about the environmental
effects on climate change.

01:21:54.370 --> 01:21:56.620
And I think that's been very clear.

01:21:56.620 --> 01:22:01.280
It has not been clear
to me how to place that

01:22:03.025 --> 01:22:06.220
before our body to make an amendment.

01:22:06.220 --> 01:22:09.190
And I am only now
understanding how that works.

01:22:09.190 --> 01:22:12.570
That is on me for not
understanding the process,

01:22:12.570 --> 01:22:14.470
but I certainly concur

01:22:14.470 --> 01:22:18.220
with not wanting to see,
"can" introduced there,

01:22:18.220 --> 01:22:20.823
and keeping the original intent.

01:22:23.092 --> 01:22:25.050
If you want to change from 150 years

01:22:25.050 --> 01:22:27.040
to the Industrial Revolution,

01:22:27.040 --> 01:22:32.040
you know, that might work,
but I think we went through this,

01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:37.900
and I believe that we
should not be altering it

01:22:37.900 --> 01:22:41.390
to fit the needs and desires
of the Energy Council,

01:22:41.390 --> 01:22:44.960
which already has contributed
so much of the wording

01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:46.752
for these-
<v ->We don't need to waste</v>

01:22:46.752 --> 01:22:48.585
time talking about it.

01:22:52.660 --> 01:22:54.553
<v Member 2>I'm gonna
move the previous question.</v>

01:22:58.800 --> 01:23:03.560
<v Dr. Ellis>We have a motion
in second, is not debatable.</v>

01:23:03.560 --> 01:23:05.990
It takes two thirds for an adoption.

01:23:05.990 --> 01:23:09.490
That's all those in
favor to call the question

01:23:09.490 --> 01:23:10.993
to show by raising your hand.

01:23:18.560 --> 01:23:21.223
Motion is adopted, so
we will now take the votes.

01:23:22.180 --> 01:23:25.003
(indistinct)

01:23:25.003 --> 01:23:27.063
Okay, there were 15 in favor.

01:23:28.620 --> 01:23:30.070
Were there any opposed?

01:23:30.070 --> 01:23:31.770
I'm sorry, were there any opposed?

01:23:32.710 --> 01:23:35.170
All right, seeing none, motion carried.

01:23:35.170 --> 01:23:36.680
So now we'll take the vote.

01:23:36.680 --> 01:23:38.308
Okay.

01:23:38.308 --> 01:23:40.260
I ask all those in
favor of the amendment

01:23:40.260 --> 01:23:43.860
on the screen of Ms. Hardy,
to show by raising your hand,

01:23:43.860 --> 01:23:46.253
if you are for the
amendment, raise your hand.

01:23:53.410 --> 01:23:55.160
All those opposed by the same sign.

01:24:00.140 --> 01:24:00.973
Mr. Allen.

01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:05.113
You voted yes? Okay.

01:24:06.347 --> 01:24:09.043
So eight in favor and seven against?

01:24:12.190 --> 01:24:16.758
All those opposed, all those opposed?

01:24:16.758 --> 01:24:17.591
Opposed.

01:24:18.869 --> 01:24:21.210
<v Staff>2, 3, 4, 5, 6.</v>

01:24:21.210 --> 01:24:23.399
<v Dr. Ellis>And you said Mr. Allen?</v>

01:24:23.399 --> 01:24:25.901
(indistinct)

01:24:25.901 --> 01:24:26.751
Seven, should be-

01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:30.220
(indistinct)

01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:37.980
Okay, so it was 8 for, 6 against?

01:24:37.980 --> 01:24:39.943
Okay, so the motion carries.

01:24:42.940 --> 01:24:44.397
I'm sorry, was there a?

01:24:45.452 --> 01:24:46.823
All right Ms. Hardy?

01:24:51.432 --> 01:24:54.188
<v Ms. Hardy>Yes, I
would like to move</v>

01:24:54.188 --> 01:24:58.830
to strike the amendment
that, right underneath that one.

01:24:58.830 --> 01:25:01.790
I don't know what the-
<v ->11 C?</v>

01:25:01.790 --> 01:25:02.730
<v Ms. Hardy>11 C.</v>

01:25:02.730 --> 01:25:05.330
Describe efforts to
mitigate climate change

01:25:05.330 --> 01:25:08.607
including reduction in
greenhouse gas emissions.

01:25:11.800 --> 01:25:13.843
<v Dr. Ellis>Okay, it's
going to take a second.</v>

01:25:15.467 --> 01:25:16.950
We have a motion to second.

01:25:16.950 --> 01:25:19.040
Would you like to speak
to your amendment?

01:25:19.040 --> 01:25:20.400
<v Ms. Hardy>Yes.</v>

01:25:20.400 --> 01:25:23.053
Describe efforts to
mitigate climate change.

01:25:24.640 --> 01:25:29.030
That is a big draw for
eighth grade students,

01:25:29.030 --> 01:25:31.940
and I need to remind
my fellow board members

01:25:31.940 --> 01:25:35.340
that is a graded, tested area,

01:25:35.340 --> 01:25:39.940
and I think that is adding another level

01:25:39.940 --> 01:25:42.790
of teaching for the
eighth grade students.

01:25:42.790 --> 01:25:47.310
And it is going to be another
requirement for testing.

01:25:47.310 --> 01:25:48.770
And there is already,

01:25:48.770 --> 01:25:52.100
the eighth grade is
something that we need

01:25:52.100 --> 01:25:54.930
to be very careful about
adding anything into it.

01:25:54.930 --> 01:25:58.707
And this would add more,
probably another week

01:25:58.707 --> 01:26:02.720
of teaching into that
grade level and testing.

01:26:02.720 --> 01:26:04.364
So thank you.

01:26:04.364 --> 01:26:07.560
(indistinct)

01:26:07.560 --> 01:26:08.673
<v Ms. Perez-Diaz>All right,</v>

01:26:08.673 --> 01:26:11.670
so, I'm going to speak
absolutely against this motion.

01:26:11.670 --> 01:26:16.470
So again, we had pretty
thorough conversations

01:26:16.470 --> 01:26:17.940
regarding why this is important.

01:26:17.940 --> 01:26:20.670
I see absolutely no problem

01:26:20.670 --> 01:26:22.370
with whether or not our eighth graders

01:26:22.370 --> 01:26:24.240
have the capacity to understand this.

01:26:24.240 --> 01:26:25.953
This is a lived experience.

01:26:27.090 --> 01:26:29.160
Whether or not we talk
about this in the classroom,

01:26:29.160 --> 01:26:31.640
this is their experience
outside of the classroom.

01:26:31.640 --> 01:26:34.160
So they're going to want to
engage in these conversations

01:26:34.160 --> 01:26:36.660
about what's happening with the climate.

01:26:36.660 --> 01:26:40.140
We're experiencing
changes in the atmosphere,

01:26:40.140 --> 01:26:43.710
and so this isn't hard for our
eighth graders to understand.

01:26:43.710 --> 01:26:46.650
And then, I will remind this body

01:26:46.650 --> 01:26:47.870
that earlier in the week, that was

01:26:47.870 --> 01:26:51.250
an amendment that was
proposed, that specifically said:

01:26:51.250 --> 01:26:54.360
Students learn better
when the information

01:26:54.360 --> 01:26:56.857
in front of them is
relevant to their experience.

01:26:56.857 --> 01:27:00.200
And that was when we were
talking about Texas fossils.

01:27:00.200 --> 01:27:02.770
I don't understand
how that's any different

01:27:02.770 --> 01:27:04.330
from having a conversation

01:27:04.330 --> 01:27:07.030
about how the climate
is changing around them.

01:27:07.030 --> 01:27:08.580
It doesn't make any sense to me,

01:27:08.580 --> 01:27:10.603
and so I speak against this motion.

01:27:14.490 --> 01:27:15.323
<v ->Yes.</v>

01:27:16.230 --> 01:27:18.760
With all respect to my colleague,

01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:21.020
you've never taught
eighth grade science.

01:27:21.020 --> 01:27:24.770
And we had science teachers
who all said that this was fine.

01:27:24.770 --> 01:27:27.940
Now, when we talked about
adding cost benefit analysis,

01:27:27.940 --> 01:27:29.400
it wasn't any of this discussion

01:27:29.400 --> 01:27:32.200
about adding content, but
now that we want students

01:27:32.200 --> 01:27:34.810
to know about reducing
greenhouse gasses,

01:27:34.810 --> 01:27:37.100
we don't want them to
know anything additional.

01:27:37.100 --> 01:27:39.250
We absolutely cannot let oil

01:27:39.250 --> 01:27:41.920
and gas industry dictate
what our kids need

01:27:41.920 --> 01:27:44.130
to learn when it comes to science.

01:27:44.130 --> 01:27:46.880
It shouldn't be about the
Texas Energy Council.

01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:49.480
It should be about what's
best for our students.

01:27:49.480 --> 01:27:52.650
So we've had all of these
teacher groups come

01:27:52.650 --> 01:27:56.010
and tell us what's best, but
now we're taking out things

01:27:56.010 --> 01:27:58.640
because oil and gas doesn't
want our students to know,

01:27:58.640 --> 01:28:01.270
let's be clear about what's going on.

01:28:01.270 --> 01:28:04.350
So we've already voted to
take out greenhouse gasses,

01:28:04.350 --> 01:28:06.540
as we already talked
about early in the week.

01:28:06.540 --> 01:28:08.910
Now we want to talk
about taking out ways

01:28:08.910 --> 01:28:10.960
to mitigate greenhouse gasses.

01:28:10.960 --> 01:28:13.020
So let's call it what it is.

01:28:13.020 --> 01:28:16.030
It's not about what our
science teachers are suggesting,

01:28:16.030 --> 01:28:18.570
or what the science
industry is suggesting.

01:28:18.570 --> 01:28:20.920
At this point, we're only making votes

01:28:20.920 --> 01:28:23.283
based on what oil
and gas wants us to do.

01:28:26.320 --> 01:28:29.450
<v ->I would concur
with member Davis,</v>

01:28:29.450 --> 01:28:34.450
and also add that our
students are seeing the flooding

01:28:34.700 --> 01:28:35.980
all over the Northeast.

01:28:35.980 --> 01:28:38.880
They are seeing fires
raging in the west.

01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:42.000
They are seeing flooding in the south

01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:45.840
and increased intensity of
hurricanes and tornadoes.

01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:50.070
They understand why this is
happening, because they are able

01:28:50.070 --> 01:28:54.360
to understand what greenhouse
or heat trapping gasses are,

01:28:54.360 --> 01:28:58.470
just as Eunice Foot over 150 years ago,

01:28:58.470 --> 01:29:03.470
understood and explained
what heat trapping gasses do.

01:29:04.610 --> 01:29:08.760
The Industrial Age has
resulted in a huge increase

01:29:08.760 --> 01:29:10.670
in heat trapping gasses,

01:29:10.670 --> 01:29:13.020
and this is not subject to question.

01:29:13.020 --> 01:29:18.020
97% of Climate Scientists
agree that heat trapping gasses

01:29:18.460 --> 01:29:22.640
are responsible for global
warming and it is an emergency.

01:29:22.640 --> 01:29:24.300
This is not something

01:29:24.300 --> 01:29:26.990
that we can wait around another 10 years

01:29:26.990 --> 01:29:28.450
to teach our students.

01:29:28.450 --> 01:29:30.370
They will not thank us

01:29:30.370 --> 01:29:32.530
for what we are trying to do here today.

01:29:32.530 --> 01:29:35.045
And I say we, because we have

01:29:35.045 --> 01:29:36.830
to operate as a body, we have to operate

01:29:36.830 --> 01:29:39.730
with our consciences,
with knowing what is right,

01:29:39.730 --> 01:29:42.680
not by the propaganda of an industry

01:29:42.680 --> 01:29:47.680
that is dying and trying
to hang on to every dollar

01:29:48.020 --> 01:29:51.373
that they can squeeze
out of a very dirty fuel.

01:29:55.950 --> 01:29:56.870
<v ->I was wondering,</v>

01:29:56.870 --> 01:30:01.700
I know one of our
content advisors testified

01:30:01.700 --> 01:30:03.640
that perhaps we need to look

01:30:03.640 --> 01:30:06.960
at these things from a
conservation approach.

01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:10.850
So I've asked staff to maybe
work on some language for us

01:30:10.850 --> 01:30:13.930
to bring to our next meeting
that might resolve this issue

01:30:13.930 --> 01:30:17.113
if we could take it from
a conservation approach.

01:30:20.930 --> 01:30:22.900
<v ->Yeah, just a few
thoughts and reactions.</v>

01:30:22.900 --> 01:30:26.810
One is I think our Permanent School Fund

01:30:26.810 --> 01:30:28.760
is generally funded by oil and gas

01:30:30.603 --> 01:30:32.530
and all of us are
probably gonna get home

01:30:32.530 --> 01:30:36.420
using oil and gas, but that aside,

01:30:36.420 --> 01:30:40.550
what's missing for me here
and Shelly, I think it's a verb.

01:30:40.550 --> 01:30:42.303
It's describe,

01:30:43.240 --> 01:30:46.610
what I'm looking for is the
critical thinking discussion.

01:30:46.610 --> 01:30:49.110
So if all of this is true,

01:30:49.110 --> 01:30:53.420
greenhouse gasses
are evil, what do we do?

01:30:53.420 --> 01:30:57.130
Do we ban gasoline and
stop using gasoline cars?

01:30:57.130 --> 01:30:58.910
Do we ban diesel for trucks?

01:30:58.910 --> 01:31:01.690
How do we get our Amazon
and Walmart purchases?

01:31:01.690 --> 01:31:03.290
Do we ban HFO for ships?

01:31:03.290 --> 01:31:06.630
How does the products from
China that we buy get here?

01:31:06.630 --> 01:31:09.070
Do we ban aviation fuel for planes?

01:31:09.070 --> 01:31:12.440
So I'd really like to have
the "so what?" discussion,

01:31:12.440 --> 01:31:15.827
and let the kids, to Perez-Diaz's point,

01:31:15.827 --> 01:31:20.610
think about yes, there
is greenhouse gasses.

01:31:20.610 --> 01:31:22.500
Yes, greenhouse gasses have an impact

01:31:23.515 --> 01:31:25.920
on the environment, but
what do we want to do about it?

01:31:25.920 --> 01:31:27.660
That's the discussion,

01:31:27.660 --> 01:31:29.840
and Shelly, I'll put
you on the spot here.

01:31:29.840 --> 01:31:31.640
The question for you is all

01:31:31.640 --> 01:31:34.370
of that I just said, is that
grade level appropriate?

01:31:34.370 --> 01:31:36.920
Is that a huge ask for the teachers

01:31:36.920 --> 01:31:38.770
to have that sort of discussion?

01:31:38.770 --> 01:31:41.773
Or does that not really fit
here in eighth grade science?

01:31:42.680 --> 01:31:45.130
<v ->Having taught eighth
graders, although not in science.</v>

01:31:45.130 --> 01:31:47.430
I do think it's grade level appropriate

01:31:47.430 --> 01:31:49.680
for students to have
conversations like that.

01:31:50.840 --> 01:31:53.080
<v Mr. Hickman>Thank you.</v>

01:31:53.080 --> 01:31:56.480
<v ->I don't think anybody here
has said that we're proposing</v>

01:31:56.480 --> 01:31:59.530
banning using gasoline,
or cars, or anything like that.

01:31:59.530 --> 01:32:00.610
No ones proposed that.

01:32:00.610 --> 01:32:04.000
And so the teacher could
use, the word mitigate.

01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:07.523
The teacher can decide
on the curriculum side,

01:32:08.955 --> 01:32:13.423
what mitigating factors could be taught.

01:32:25.470 --> 01:32:27.848
<v ->Microphone</v>
<v ->Oh, I'm sorry,</v>

01:32:27.848 --> 01:32:29.065
Thank you.

01:32:29.065 --> 01:32:32.860
11 A and 11 B are the facts, right?

01:32:32.860 --> 01:32:36.863
11 C and perhaps there
needs to be some wordsmithing,

01:32:37.950 --> 01:32:40.683
but 11 C takes us to
the discussion, right?

01:32:41.980 --> 01:32:46.980
If we remove 11 C, we
don't have critical thinking.

01:32:47.130 --> 01:32:49.560
We can't get to the,
"so what?" question,

01:32:49.560 --> 01:32:51.583
if 11 C is removed.

01:32:53.140 --> 01:32:56.090
So if we want critical
thinking in eighth grade,

01:32:56.090 --> 01:32:57.890
maybe some wordsmithing
is appropriate here,

01:32:57.890 --> 01:33:01.233
but the entire scratch removes
that high level discussion.

01:33:04.748 --> 01:33:06.700
<v ->And I would point out
kind of my thoughts on it.</v>

01:33:06.700 --> 01:33:10.930
I actually agree with that, I
think the most important thing

01:33:10.930 --> 01:33:12.710
that we're doing is
educating our students,

01:33:12.710 --> 01:33:14.121
and as she pointed out,

01:33:14.121 --> 01:33:15.783
that's A and B and now
what do you do with it?

01:33:16.806 --> 01:33:18.620
It is a very important discussion

01:33:18.620 --> 01:33:20.363
to Mr. Hickman's point also.

01:33:21.310 --> 01:33:23.570
Referring to what Ms. Little
said, I think there would be

01:33:23.570 --> 01:33:26.840
an appetite for, between
now and second reading,

01:33:26.840 --> 01:33:28.240
to get some minds together, to work

01:33:28.240 --> 01:33:30.770
with staff and say, okay,
we've got the first two points,

01:33:30.770 --> 01:33:32.986
what do we do with the third?

01:33:32.986 --> 01:33:35.950
So I don't know if the
right thing right now

01:33:35.950 --> 01:33:38.750
is to delete it or keep it.

01:33:38.750 --> 01:33:41.690
I think if we keep it does
keep discussion going,

01:33:41.690 --> 01:33:44.360
not with necessarily for my intent.

01:33:44.360 --> 01:33:45.660
That, that's what I would intend

01:33:45.660 --> 01:33:47.010
to vote on in second reading.

01:33:47.010 --> 01:33:48.760
But something comes back

01:33:48.760 --> 01:33:51.070
from some minds who have worked together

01:33:51.070 --> 01:33:55.876
and come up with a
better solution to this one.

01:33:55.876 --> 01:33:57.240
All right.

01:33:57.240 --> 01:33:59.260
We'll kind of try to keep
our strict enforcement

01:33:59.260 --> 01:34:00.620
of two each time.

01:34:00.620 --> 01:34:02.230
So we'll go back in the same order,

01:34:02.230 --> 01:34:04.700
unless you want to go last
since it's your amendment?

01:34:04.700 --> 01:34:05.533
Okay.

01:34:06.520 --> 01:34:10.410
<v ->I contend that one of the
things that's the big question</v>

01:34:10.410 --> 01:34:15.410
for people that look at global
and environmental problems

01:34:16.067 --> 01:34:19.600
and so forth, they don't
know how to mitigate.

01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:21.390
I mean, that is a big question

01:34:21.390 --> 01:34:23.370
about how to mitigate climate change,

01:34:23.370 --> 01:34:25.376
just because of the things

01:34:25.376 --> 01:34:28.020
that we use are so much
a part of our daily life,

01:34:28.020 --> 01:34:32.220
as member Hickman said.

01:34:32.220 --> 01:34:33.260
But what I would like

01:34:33.260 --> 01:34:38.240
to say is, as a teacher, when
you use scientific evidence

01:34:38.240 --> 01:34:42.950
to describe like we do in A and in B,

01:34:44.285 --> 01:34:49.285
for the natural things and the manmade,

01:34:50.230 --> 01:34:52.530
the next thing you would
do with the manmade

01:34:52.530 --> 01:34:57.260
is discuss what we're
doing that causes this

01:34:57.260 --> 01:34:58.700
if this is the case.

01:34:58.700 --> 01:35:01.220
So I don't know that
we need another teak

01:35:01.220 --> 01:35:04.460
to say that, because a
good teacher would say,

01:35:04.460 --> 01:35:09.460
these are the problems
caused by mankind.

01:35:09.690 --> 01:35:14.483
And the natural thing
would be how could mitigate?

01:35:15.510 --> 01:35:17.010
And I don't want to
use the word mitigate

01:35:17.010 --> 01:35:17.843
for eighth graders,

01:35:17.843 --> 01:35:20.080
Cause' I don't think that
they would quite get it,

01:35:20.080 --> 01:35:23.750
but to combat this sort of thing.

01:35:23.750 --> 01:35:27.210
So that would be
natural in your teaching.

01:35:27.210 --> 01:35:29.150
When you teach the fact,

01:35:29.150 --> 01:35:32.440
then you would talk
about aspects of that fact.

01:35:32.440 --> 01:35:35.270
That's the way I would
have handled it myself.

01:35:35.270 --> 01:35:40.270
So I'm amenable to coming back to this.

01:35:40.760 --> 01:35:42.800
I do want to remind my
fellow board members

01:35:42.800 --> 01:35:46.610
that we did put the
word greenhouse gasses

01:35:46.610 --> 01:35:48.900
in the previous standard.

01:35:48.900 --> 01:35:50.450
So it's not like greenhouse

01:35:50.450 --> 01:35:54.320
is not mentioned at all in the teak.

01:35:54.320 --> 01:35:59.190
So I would be willing to wait
and see what we have to do

01:35:59.190 --> 01:36:03.830
in the next- <v ->I
appreciate that point</v>

01:36:03.830 --> 01:36:05.637
to be willing to work on
this as we move forward.

01:36:05.637 --> 01:36:07.720
Did I see Ms. Perez Diaz?

01:36:07.720 --> 01:36:09.290
<v ->Yes, sir. Thank you.</v>

01:36:09.290 --> 01:36:11.140
The only other comment I wanted

01:36:11.140 --> 01:36:11.973
to make was regarding Ms. Little.

01:36:11.973 --> 01:36:13.370
Thank you so much, Ms. Little,

01:36:14.268 --> 01:36:17.880
for proposing exploration
of conservation as a topic.

01:36:17.880 --> 01:36:20.890
The only thing I'd add,
is that I would still want us

01:36:20.890 --> 01:36:23.290
to talk about impact, because speaking

01:36:23.290 --> 01:36:27.500
about conservation
only talks about, I think,

01:36:27.500 --> 01:36:30.570
preventable or preventative measures,

01:36:30.570 --> 01:36:34.730
but through speaking on conservation

01:36:34.730 --> 01:36:37.780
there's no conversation
about reactionary.

01:36:37.780 --> 01:36:38.740
And right now, we are

01:36:38.740 --> 01:36:41.100
in reactionary mode and so we also need

01:36:42.696 --> 01:36:46.040
to address how we
engage impact right now.

01:36:46.040 --> 01:36:48.580
So in addition to conservation,

01:36:48.580 --> 01:36:50.570
I would also talk about action

01:36:50.570 --> 01:36:53.513
in response to, which
again goes to mitigate.

01:36:54.930 --> 01:36:57.513
<v ->Alright, any other
members, Dr. Bell-Meterau?</v>

01:36:58.610 --> 01:37:01.410
<v ->If we look to a
historical approach</v>

01:37:01.410 --> 01:37:03.760
to the issue of energy, we can look back

01:37:03.760 --> 01:37:08.630
to the time when horses
carried us everywhere we went,

01:37:08.630 --> 01:37:13.630
and we were knee deep in
horse manure in many cities.

01:37:13.780 --> 01:37:14.930
There was a transition

01:37:14.930 --> 01:37:19.020
to using cars and using
fossil fuels to run those cars.

01:37:19.020 --> 01:37:22.860
And it was a transition
that took place very quickly,

01:37:22.860 --> 01:37:27.860
because the economics and
the cleanliness made sense.

01:37:27.900 --> 01:37:29.740
Now we are addicted to oil,

01:37:29.740 --> 01:37:31.570
and we see that there are results

01:37:31.570 --> 01:37:35.660
to pumping fossil emissions

01:37:35.660 --> 01:37:39.930
into the atmosphere that
is making life untenable,

01:37:39.930 --> 01:37:41.760
and I would like to see

01:37:41.760 --> 01:37:44.670
as many mentions of the alternatives,

01:37:44.670 --> 01:37:49.670
whether that's solar,
wind, thermal, wave energy.

01:37:51.360 --> 01:37:53.180
There are many alternatives

01:37:53.180 --> 01:37:56.100
and they are scarcely mentioned.

01:37:56.100 --> 01:37:57.790
And so I think that,

01:37:57.790 --> 01:38:01.300
looking at mitigations
would be an excellent idea,

01:38:01.300 --> 01:38:04.610
and looking at it from
a historical approach.

01:38:04.610 --> 01:38:09.610
And I thank member Little for
suggesting the conservation,

01:38:10.520 --> 01:38:14.110
but not without also
looking to the future

01:38:14.110 --> 01:38:19.110
of transitioning to cleaner,
more sustainable energy.

01:38:20.120 --> 01:38:22.583
<v ->Any other members have
any comments on this one?</v>

01:38:25.769 --> 01:38:27.323
All right, are we ready for the vote?

01:38:28.478 --> 01:38:30.600
I would ask all those in
favor of the amendment

01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:33.390
of deleting-
(indistinct)

01:38:33.390 --> 01:38:37.633
<v ->She did not ask to pull it?</v>
<v ->Ms. Hardy?</v>

01:38:39.200 --> 01:38:42.196
<v Ms. Hardy>Yes I'm
pulling it, I'm sorry</v>

01:38:42.196 --> 01:38:45.546
I thought I made that clear.
<v ->Okay, all right.</v>

01:38:45.546 --> 01:38:46.540
Is there any objection to,

01:38:46.540 --> 01:38:48.550
Mr. Hickman, do you have
an objection to her pulling?

01:38:48.550 --> 01:38:50.360
<v ->No, just a question
for you Mr. Chairman.</v>

01:38:50.360 --> 01:38:53.210
Did you want alternative language now?

01:38:53.210 --> 01:38:55.380
Or do you want that in
between and we'll talk about it

01:38:55.380 --> 01:38:57.102
at the next meeting?
<v ->The next meeting.</v>

01:38:57.102 --> 01:38:58.657
<v Dr. Ellis>I think the idea,</v>

01:38:58.657 --> 01:38:59.795
was that we would work on that-

01:38:59.795 --> 01:39:00.628
<v Mr. Hickman>During the
interim and come back.</v>

01:39:00.628 --> 01:39:01.461
Okay, understood. Thank you.

01:39:01.461 --> 01:39:02.570
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:39:02.570 --> 01:39:04.434
All right is there any objection

01:39:04.434 --> 01:39:05.267
to the pulling of this amendment?

01:39:05.267 --> 01:39:07.830
Hearing none, it's withdrawn.

01:39:07.830 --> 01:39:08.995
Are there any other members

01:39:08.995 --> 01:39:11.603
that have any other
amendments for this item?

01:39:15.120 --> 01:39:16.210
All right, I'm hearing none.

01:39:16.210 --> 01:39:18.273
Are we ready to vote on the main motion?

01:39:20.090 --> 01:39:21.493
As amended, right?

01:39:24.906 --> 01:39:26.113
Let me get to my agenda.

01:39:36.913 --> 01:39:38.290
Okay.

01:39:38.290 --> 01:39:39.140
So remember the motion

01:39:39.140 --> 01:39:41.460
before us is a Committee of
the Full board recommends-

01:39:41.460 --> 01:39:42.810
I'm sorry, that the motion is

01:39:42.810 --> 01:39:44.140
the State Board of Education approved

01:39:44.140 --> 01:39:45.940
for first reading and
filing authorization

01:39:45.940 --> 01:39:48.080
proposed new 19 TAC Chapter 112

01:39:48.080 --> 01:39:49.280
Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills

01:39:49.280 --> 01:39:52.640
for Subchapter eight Elementary,
112 dot 1 implementation

01:39:52.640 --> 01:39:53.650
of Texas Essential Knowledge

01:39:53.650 --> 01:39:56.520
and Skills for Science,
Elementary, adopted 2021,

01:39:56.520 --> 01:39:59.290
112 dot 2, Science,
Kindergarten, adopted 2021,

01:39:59.290 --> 01:40:02.800
112 dot 3, Science,
Grade One, adopted 2021,

01:40:02.800 --> 01:40:05.200
112 dot 4, Science,
Grade Two, adopted 2021,

01:40:05.200 --> 01:40:08.338
112 dot 5, Science,
Grade Three, adopted 2021,

01:40:08.338 --> 01:40:11.447
112 6, Science, Grade
Four, adopted 2021,

01:40:11.447 --> 01:40:13.731
112 7, Science, Grade Five, adopted 2021

01:40:13.731 --> 01:40:17.740
and Subchapter B,
Middle School, 112 dot 25.

01:40:17.740 --> 01:40:19.350
Implementation of Texas
Essential Knowledge

01:40:19.350 --> 01:40:22.408
and Skills for Science,
Middle School, adopted 2021,

01:40:22.408 --> 01:40:26.077
112 dot 26, Science,
Grade Six, adopted 2021,

01:40:26.077 --> 01:40:29.987
112 dot 27, Science
Grade Seven, adopted 2021.

01:40:29.987 --> 01:40:32.290
And 112 dot 28, Science Grade Eight,

01:40:32.290 --> 01:40:34.883
adopted 2021 as amended.

01:40:36.060 --> 01:40:37.520
I think we work on streamlining

01:40:37.520 --> 01:40:39.135
of our agenda items as a board.

01:40:39.135 --> 01:40:41.270
(indistinct)

01:40:41.270 --> 01:40:43.595
All right, I'm going to ask all those

01:40:43.595 --> 01:40:46.095
in favor to the motion,
show by raising your hand.

01:40:53.106 --> 01:40:53.939
Okay.

01:40:53.939 --> 01:40:55.070
Opposed by the same sign.

01:40:55.070 --> 01:40:57.210
There are 14 in favor,

01:40:57.210 --> 01:40:59.723
and zero opposed and the motion carries.

01:41:01.910 --> 01:41:03.080
There is a majority in favor,

01:41:03.080 --> 01:41:04.780
and the recommendation is adopted.

01:41:05.780 --> 01:41:07.210
Remember we also had the update

01:41:07.210 --> 01:41:09.310
to the Texas Essential
Knowledge and Skills TEKS Review.

01:41:09.310 --> 01:41:10.380
That item was discussed,

01:41:10.380 --> 01:41:14.020
and there was no business
for the State Board to consider.

01:41:14.020 --> 01:41:15.370
Ms. Melton-Malone.

01:41:15.370 --> 01:41:17.500
Are you Ready?
<v ->I am ready.</v>

01:41:17.500 --> 01:41:18.630
<v ->We will go to item number six,</v>

01:41:18.630 --> 01:41:21.360
which was proposed
amendment to 19 TAC Chapter 74,

01:41:21.360 --> 01:41:22.260
curriculum requirements,

01:41:22.260 --> 01:41:25.290
Subchapter C, other
provisions 74 dot 28,

01:41:25.290 --> 01:41:27.760
students with dyslexia
and related disorders.

01:41:27.760 --> 01:41:29.600
Second reading and final adoption.

01:41:29.600 --> 01:41:34.600
It's on your agenda on
page on two dash three.

01:41:34.770 --> 01:41:36.680
I'll call on Ms. Melton-Malone.

01:41:36.680 --> 01:41:38.330
<v ->Thank you Mr. Chair.</v>

01:41:38.330 --> 01:41:40.010
The Committee on Instruction recommends

01:41:40.010 --> 01:41:41.370
that the State Board of Education

01:41:41.370 --> 01:41:44.560
approve for second
reading and final adoption,

01:41:44.560 --> 01:41:48.600
the proposed amendment
to 19 TAC Chapter 74,

01:41:48.600 --> 01:41:51.943
curriculum requirements,
Subchapter C other provisions,

01:41:51.943 --> 01:41:55.550
74 point 28 students with dyslexia,

01:41:55.550 --> 01:41:58.298
and related disorders as amended.

01:41:58.298 --> 01:41:59.560
<v ->Okay.</v>
<v ->Second.</v>

01:41:59.560 --> 01:42:01.400
<v ->Okay, do we don't have
second on these right?</v>

01:42:01.400 --> 01:42:02.530
Yeah.

01:42:02.530 --> 01:42:05.600
That one generated a fair
bit of discussion, am I correct?

01:42:05.600 --> 01:42:07.740
<v ->Yes, it did.</v>
<v ->You want to recap it for us?</v>

01:42:07.740 --> 01:42:11.240
<v ->Well basically, most of
our testifiers that we had</v>

01:42:11.240 --> 01:42:14.820
were in favor of the
handbook the way it is now.

01:42:14.820 --> 01:42:18.733
You have an attachment to
your minutes that you received.

01:42:20.178 --> 01:42:21.178
These were amendments

01:42:21.178 --> 01:42:22.579
that were made based on
public comment that came in.

01:42:22.579 --> 01:42:26.400
Just some kind of cleanup things,

01:42:26.400 --> 01:42:28.650
changing some words here or there,

01:42:28.650 --> 01:42:33.650
but the overall discussion was,

01:42:33.700 --> 01:42:35.250
we are on the right track,

01:42:35.250 --> 01:42:38.310
and most of the testifiers
were very appreciative

01:42:38.310 --> 01:42:39.580
of the fact that we have put

01:42:39.580 --> 01:42:41.800
in the work to get the handbook

01:42:41.800 --> 01:42:44.960
to the point to where it's
going to be really usable

01:42:44.960 --> 01:42:46.820
for the local school districts,

01:42:46.820 --> 01:42:49.800
and going to be beneficial to the kids.

01:42:49.800 --> 01:42:51.700
Board members, do y'all have anything?

01:42:54.950 --> 01:42:57.140
<v ->I'm just kind of, just curious</v>

01:42:59.360 --> 01:43:01.500
if Madam Chair, could also maybe kind

01:43:01.500 --> 01:43:05.035
of convey some of the
concerns that were raised.

01:43:05.035 --> 01:43:09.170
I know this has been a
pretty emotional topic,

01:43:09.170 --> 01:43:11.740
and that sort of, you know,

01:43:11.740 --> 01:43:14.530
created some unusual circumstances,

01:43:14.530 --> 01:43:17.474
shall we say, surrounding
that work over there.

01:43:17.474 --> 01:43:20.412
But what were some of the concerns

01:43:20.412 --> 01:43:24.043
that also surfaced during
your public hearing?

01:43:25.630 --> 01:43:27.815
<v ->I think the major concern</v>

01:43:27.815 --> 01:43:32.815
that came to light, was
the screening process,

01:43:33.210 --> 01:43:37.653
and having qualified
trainers to screen the children,

01:43:39.050 --> 01:43:42.350
and to change the wording

01:43:42.350 --> 01:43:47.210
from standard protocol
to something else.

01:43:47.210 --> 01:43:52.120
We did not change that, we
stayed with standard protocol

01:43:52.120 --> 01:43:54.773
because we felt like that
was the best way to go.

01:43:58.630 --> 01:44:00.640
<v ->Help me understand</v>

01:44:00.640 --> 01:44:02.883
what the issue is with
standard protocol?

01:44:04.320 --> 01:44:05.335
<v ->The fear is that if a child</v>

01:44:05.335 --> 01:44:09.190
is under the standard dyslexia protocol,

01:44:09.190 --> 01:44:12.950
then they would not have the opportunity

01:44:12.950 --> 01:44:17.854
to get an FIIE and be
identified as Special Ed,

01:44:17.854 --> 01:44:19.970
that they would kind of be pigeonholed

01:44:19.970 --> 01:44:24.860
into this little area
and would stay there

01:44:24.860 --> 01:44:27.823
and not have access to
the Special Ed program.

01:44:29.570 --> 01:44:33.110
<v ->And yeah, I've heard
that concern myself,</v>

01:44:33.110 --> 01:44:36.840
and I'm just curious
what the dialogue was

01:44:36.840 --> 01:44:40.017
in the committee and why
the committee feels like

01:44:40.017 --> 01:44:42.783
that's not a legitimate concern?

01:44:44.580 --> 01:44:47.390
<v ->Well, the dialogue and
the committee was basically,</v>

01:44:47.390 --> 01:44:48.810
and some community members,

01:44:48.810 --> 01:44:50.790
Monica, y'all might
want to jump in here.

01:44:50.790 --> 01:44:51.723
Dr. Young would?

01:44:54.630 --> 01:44:56.795
<v ->So I don't want to
speak for the committee</v>

01:44:56.795 --> 01:44:59.457
but Mr. Maynard, I
think what I can share

01:44:59.457 --> 01:45:02.530
about the language that
we've had in the handbook,

01:45:02.530 --> 01:45:07.180
is trying to make sure that
we have identified the manner

01:45:07.180 --> 01:45:10.630
in which students with
dyslexia will be served.

01:45:10.630 --> 01:45:12.520
I think there is some confusion

01:45:12.520 --> 01:45:16.540
around whether some of these
pieces are mutually exclusive.

01:45:16.540 --> 01:45:20.180
And so, we have tried to

01:45:22.575 --> 01:45:24.990
add and amend language to
make sure that it's very clear,

01:45:24.990 --> 01:45:27.367
that a student who has been identified

01:45:27.367 --> 01:45:32.170
as having dyslexia
needs to have instruction

01:45:32.170 --> 01:45:34.330
and support and services.

01:45:34.330 --> 01:45:36.580
If that student is also
in Special Education,

01:45:37.866 --> 01:45:38.945
then there are certain
things that need to happen,

01:45:38.945 --> 01:45:43.490
not to the exclusion
of this other piece.

01:45:43.490 --> 01:45:45.910
And so, I think we're
trying to make sure

01:45:45.910 --> 01:45:49.150
that we are clarifying the
confusion in the right way,

01:45:49.150 --> 01:45:50.990
as opposed to changing terminology,

01:45:50.990 --> 01:45:54.403
and potentially creating
confusion in a different way.

01:45:55.570 --> 01:45:58.700
<v ->So does the,</v>

01:45:58.700 --> 01:46:00.770
tell me a little bit about

01:46:00.770 --> 01:46:03.520
then how the dyslexic
students are being handled

01:46:03.520 --> 01:46:05.633
in the context of the handbook,

01:46:06.870 --> 01:46:09.333
504 versus Special Ed?

01:46:10.280 --> 01:46:14.110
<v ->So under these amendments,</v>

01:46:14.110 --> 01:46:16.053
if you vote to approve them today,

01:46:17.400 --> 01:46:21.040
the handbook attempts to
make clear that we start out,

01:46:21.040 --> 01:46:23.080
and I'm talking about
our youngest learners,

01:46:23.080 --> 01:46:25.740
kindergarten and first grade students.

01:46:25.740 --> 01:46:27.860
They all have to go
through universal screening

01:46:27.860 --> 01:46:29.920
to determine if they're having

01:46:29.920 --> 01:46:33.490
or demonstrating any
potential of reading difficulty.

01:46:33.490 --> 01:46:36.810
Those results then lead to
either saying students are

01:46:36.810 --> 01:46:40.120
on track, we keep on
with general instruction,

01:46:40.120 --> 01:46:40.953
or there might be a concern,

01:46:40.953 --> 01:46:43.665
we need to do further evaluation,

01:46:43.665 --> 01:46:47.220
there are additional steps
that need to be taken.

01:46:47.220 --> 01:46:52.220
What the handbook now
attempts to clarify is that,

01:46:52.670 --> 01:46:57.670
if there is evidence that a
student may have dyslexia

01:46:57.830 --> 01:47:00.563
and may be in need of
Special Education Services,

01:47:02.855 --> 01:47:04.330
the most complete way
to gather that evidence

01:47:04.330 --> 01:47:07.250
would be through an FIIE
under Special Education.

01:47:07.250 --> 01:47:10.970
So that is seeking parental consent

01:47:10.970 --> 01:47:13.283
and then moving
forward with that process.

01:47:14.350 --> 01:47:16.950
Depending on how that plays out,

01:47:16.950 --> 01:47:20.010
then there are other
steps that might be taken

01:47:20.010 --> 01:47:22.710
by parents and or by educators

01:47:22.710 --> 01:47:25.720
in the school district to get to a point

01:47:25.720 --> 01:47:28.740
where a student has been
appropriately identified

01:47:28.740 --> 01:47:32.120
and a student is receiving
the most appropriate students

01:47:32.120 --> 01:47:34.798
based on that individual student's need.

01:47:34.798 --> 01:47:37.623
In the prior version of the handbook,

01:47:38.606 --> 01:47:41.189
what we have heard is
that there was confusion,

01:47:41.189 --> 01:47:44.296
about when an FIIE should occur.

01:47:44.296 --> 01:47:47.440
That there were potentially instances

01:47:47.440 --> 01:47:50.190
where decisions were
being made about services

01:47:50.190 --> 01:47:53.730
without having gone
through the FIIE process

01:47:53.730 --> 01:47:57.230
to make sure that there
was that complete information

01:47:57.230 --> 01:47:59.183
to make a decision about services.

01:48:00.770 --> 01:48:05.090
<v ->And I bring that up as
I represent Bell County,</v>

01:48:05.090 --> 01:48:09.603
and within Bell County, we
have this place called Fort Hood.

01:48:10.730 --> 01:48:14.200
It's my understanding that,
a number of students that,

01:48:14.200 --> 01:48:16.193
you know, of course we
know that the military families

01:48:16.193 --> 01:48:18.720
tend to be very mobile families.

01:48:18.720 --> 01:48:23.720
And that, when we serve
dyslexic students under 504,

01:48:24.080 --> 01:48:25.010
and they move out of state

01:48:25.010 --> 01:48:27.870
into other places, that
creates a real problem

01:48:27.870 --> 01:48:31.212
because most other states
are serving those students

01:48:31.212 --> 01:48:32.870
under Special Ed. and
then it creates a real burden

01:48:32.870 --> 01:48:35.010
for those families to try
to get those kids identified

01:48:35.010 --> 01:48:36.760
into Special Ed services

01:48:36.760 --> 01:48:38.760
as they're being served
in those other states.

01:48:38.760 --> 01:48:42.808
I guess I'm asking is,
has this been addressed?

01:48:42.808 --> 01:48:47.770
<v ->This version of the
handbook should help</v>

01:48:47.770 --> 01:48:51.473
to rectify those challenges
that those families are facing.

01:48:57.180 --> 01:48:58.480
<v ->Dr. Young, did you have?</v>

01:48:59.680 --> 01:49:01.770
<v ->I just wanted to make a comment</v>

01:49:01.770 --> 01:49:04.180
that this committee
has taken a huge step

01:49:04.180 --> 01:49:06.300
to move dyslexia forward

01:49:06.300 --> 01:49:09.540
and ensuring that
students are identified early

01:49:09.540 --> 01:49:12.220
and that they're properly identified

01:49:12.220 --> 01:49:16.130
for services and that this also is

01:49:19.880 --> 01:49:22.130
the product of being
able to align with IDEA,

01:49:22.970 --> 01:49:27.970
and also recognize that
dyslexia isn't stand-alone,

01:49:28.420 --> 01:49:32.923
that it is a learning disability
when properly diagnosed.

01:49:39.537 --> 01:49:42.860
<v ->As I said, the majority of
the people that were there</v>

01:49:42.860 --> 01:49:47.190
and testified were very
excited about the new update

01:49:47.190 --> 01:49:48.500
to the Dyslexia Handbook,

01:49:48.500 --> 01:49:51.487
and did see it as an answer
to a lot of the questions

01:49:51.487 --> 01:49:53.587
and the problems that
they've been having.

01:50:02.960 --> 01:50:04.694
<v ->Any other discussion
on this side?</v>

01:50:04.694 --> 01:50:05.850
And I'm going to stall for just a second

01:50:05.850 --> 01:50:08.213
cause' we're making sure
we have our motion correct.

01:50:11.730 --> 01:50:13.380
Yeah, go ahead Dr. Young.

01:50:13.380 --> 01:50:16.228
<v ->The changes in the
handbook will immediately</v>

01:50:16.228 --> 01:50:20.630
positively impact, no
less than 45,000 children

01:50:20.630 --> 01:50:22.730
across the state of Texas.

01:50:22.730 --> 01:50:25.644
It's probably the largest paradigm shift

01:50:25.644 --> 01:50:28.130
in anything that the
State Board has done

01:50:28.130 --> 01:50:31.270
related to the Dyslexia
Handbook in a very long time.

01:50:31.270 --> 01:50:35.230
And so a lot of hard
work has gone into this,

01:50:35.230 --> 01:50:39.883
and we are proud of the
product that has been produced.

01:50:44.380 --> 01:50:45.580
<v ->Okay, any other discussion</v>

01:50:45.580 --> 01:50:48.803
on this side before I call on
Ms. Kay to fix this up here?

01:50:54.050 --> 01:50:56.124
<v ->Thank you Mr. Chairman.</v>

01:50:56.124 --> 01:51:00.940
As you know, we produce all of the work

01:51:00.940 --> 01:51:04.580
for y'all from the time
that the committees meet,

01:51:04.580 --> 01:51:09.580
until today's meeting in
a compressed timeframe.

01:51:09.770 --> 01:51:14.770
And so, there was a
discrepancy that I missed

01:51:15.550 --> 01:51:18.830
when I was putting together
the script for the Chairman.

01:51:18.830 --> 01:51:20.420
And so, Mr. Chairman,

01:51:20.420 --> 01:51:23.897
I believe that we need
to ask Ms. Melton-Malone,

01:51:23.897 --> 01:51:27.650
to re-present her motion.

01:51:27.650 --> 01:51:29.830
I think that's going to be
the easiest way to do it.

01:51:29.830 --> 01:51:31.420
It hasn't been voted on,

01:51:31.420 --> 01:51:36.290
and so, if there's no objection
and Ms. Melton-Malone,

01:51:36.290 --> 01:51:40.700
page two of your script,
at the top it's the motion,

01:51:40.700 --> 01:51:43.450
and then the make an
affirmative finding part

01:51:43.450 --> 01:51:45.930
that was accidentally omitted,

01:51:45.930 --> 01:51:48.853
and I apologize for not
catching that sooner.

01:51:50.335 --> 01:51:52.272
<v ->[Ms. Melton-Malone] Page?</v>

01:51:52.272 --> 01:51:55.810
<v ->Page two of your minutes.</v>
<v ->Oh of my minutes.</v>

01:51:55.810 --> 01:51:57.243
<v ->Yes Ma'am,</v>
<v ->Okay.</v>

01:51:59.890 --> 01:52:04.043
<v ->Where it says motion and
then there's two paragraphs,</v>

01:52:05.030 --> 01:52:07.770
the second paragraph was omitted

01:52:07.770 --> 01:52:11.503
from the script for today
and I apologize for the error.

01:52:12.933 --> 01:52:14.210
<v ->[Ms. Melton-Malone]
So I will reread this.</v>

01:52:14.210 --> 01:52:15.680
The Committee on Instruction recommends

01:52:15.680 --> 01:52:17.093
that the State Board of Education

01:52:17.093 --> 01:52:19.287
approve for second
reading and final adoption,

01:52:19.287 --> 01:52:23.140
the proposed amendment
to 19 TAC Chapter 74,

01:52:23.140 --> 01:52:24.330
curriculum requirements,

01:52:24.330 --> 01:52:28.345
Subchapter C other
provisions, 74 point 28.

01:52:28.345 --> 01:52:32.010
Students with dyslexia
and related disorders

01:52:32.010 --> 01:52:34.960
as amended and make
an affirmative finding that,

01:52:34.960 --> 01:52:37.110
immediate adoption of
the proposed amendment

01:52:37.110 --> 01:52:41.360
to 19 TAC Chapter 74,
curriculum requirements,

01:52:41.360 --> 01:52:45.380
Subchapter C other
provisions, 74 point 28,

01:52:45.380 --> 01:52:50.187
students with dyslexia and
related disorders is necessary,

01:52:50.187 --> 01:52:51.880
and shall have an effective date

01:52:51.880 --> 01:52:55.943
of 20 days after filing, as
adopted with the Texas Register.

01:52:57.030 --> 01:52:58.360
<v ->Members are there any objection</v>

01:52:58.360 --> 01:52:59.760
to her restating the motion?

01:53:00.817 --> 01:53:02.228
Okay, hearing none.

01:53:02.228 --> 01:53:03.061
All right.

01:53:03.061 --> 01:53:04.470
We're ready to vote on that one?

01:53:05.800 --> 01:53:06.980
All right, so this will take two thirds,

01:53:06.980 --> 01:53:10.033
so I'll ask all those in favor
show by raising your hand.

01:53:17.490 --> 01:53:18.810
Any opposed by the same sign.

01:53:18.810 --> 01:53:20.920
There are 15 in favor,

01:53:20.920 --> 01:53:24.250
and zero apposed and the
recommendation is adopted.

01:53:24.250 --> 01:53:25.083
And I'll tell Ms. Kay,

01:53:25.083 --> 01:53:26.290
everybody's got to
make their first mistake

01:53:26.290 --> 01:53:28.646
in life at some point,
so that's- (all laughing)

01:53:28.646 --> 01:53:31.738
<v ->Except it wasn't her
mistake, it was mine, so...</v>

01:53:31.738 --> 01:53:34.500
And it was far from my first,

01:53:34.500 --> 01:53:38.104
but I appreciate her
not bringing that up.

01:53:38.104 --> 01:53:40.411
<v ->First or second, yeah.
(indistinct)</v>

01:53:40.411 --> 01:53:41.591
<v Mr. Maynard>Mr. Chairman?</v>

01:53:41.591 --> 01:53:42.591
<v ->[Ms. Melton-Malone] Do I need</v>

01:53:42.591 --> 01:53:43.424
to go ahead and read the other one?

01:53:43.424 --> 01:53:47.440
We have another
motion that goes with that.

01:53:47.440 --> 01:53:48.794
<v Dr. Ellis>Melton-Malone,
hold on just a second.</v>

01:53:48.794 --> 01:53:49.794
Mr. Maynard?

01:53:50.681 --> 01:53:51.810
<v ->I just have a comment,</v>

01:53:51.810 --> 01:53:55.480
I think that piece of work's
been a pretty heavy lift

01:53:55.480 --> 01:53:58.380
for that committee
and just want to thank

01:53:58.380 --> 01:54:02.407
that committee and the
Chair for excellent work on that.

01:54:02.407 --> 01:54:03.780
I know it's been a heavy lift

01:54:03.780 --> 01:54:06.893
for the staff as well,
but it's really important,

01:54:06.893 --> 01:54:11.273
and I'm speaking as the
father of a dyslexic child.

01:54:13.760 --> 01:54:15.270
<v ->I would like to
thank Dr. Young,</v>

01:54:15.270 --> 01:54:17.180
for her leadership in this area

01:54:17.180 --> 01:54:21.280
because we all relied very
heavily, I know I certainly did.

01:54:21.280 --> 01:54:23.650
I was, is this okay, is
this what we need to do,

01:54:23.650 --> 01:54:26.140
kind of thing and I too
have a dyslexic child

01:54:26.140 --> 01:54:28.380
but it's still, I still needed a lot

01:54:28.380 --> 01:54:30.790
of guidance and I'm
thankful that she was

01:54:30.790 --> 01:54:32.523
on our committee to support that.

01:54:34.900 --> 01:54:36.867
<v ->Thank you. (sniffles)
You made me cry.</v>

01:54:36.867 --> 01:54:37.960
(audience chuckles)

01:54:37.960 --> 01:54:41.320
This was really important
to me when I decided

01:54:41.320 --> 01:54:45.790
to run for State Board and
to be part of the State Board,

01:54:45.790 --> 01:54:49.220
to ensure that we are
doing right by all the children

01:54:49.220 --> 01:54:50.870
in the state of Texas especially those

01:54:50.870 --> 01:54:54.470
who have reading disorders
because we all know

01:54:54.470 --> 01:54:57.950
that reading is our
gateway to all success.

01:54:57.950 --> 01:54:59.330
And so, in order to have

01:54:59.330 --> 01:55:01.640
that happen, we needed to
make sure that the guidance

01:55:01.640 --> 01:55:05.730
that this Board provides
assists all children.

01:55:05.730 --> 01:55:06.593
So thank you.

01:55:12.150 --> 01:55:14.864
<v ->I also want to
thank the committee,</v>

01:55:14.864 --> 01:55:17.610
for the wonderful
heart that they all had.

01:55:17.610 --> 01:55:19.560
And I know listening to all the parents

01:55:20.475 --> 01:55:23.720
who testified deepened my commitment

01:55:23.720 --> 01:55:26.530
to Special Education for all students

01:55:26.530 --> 01:55:30.780
and all of their gifts and
their devoted parents.

01:55:30.780 --> 01:55:35.780
And that is the true work of educators.

01:55:36.040 --> 01:55:36.873
Thank you.

01:55:38.260 --> 01:55:41.530
<v ->I'll echo that by thanking
the committee themselves.</v>

01:55:41.530 --> 01:55:42.735
This was a heavy lift for the committee

01:55:42.735 --> 01:55:45.040
but I think we had the right people

01:55:45.875 --> 01:55:47.420
in place to get all that work done.

01:55:47.420 --> 01:55:51.030
I want to thank everyone
from all sides of the issue,

01:55:51.030 --> 01:55:52.690
all sides of the discussion
that came together.

01:55:52.690 --> 01:55:54.624
I think everybody's voice was heard.

01:55:54.624 --> 01:55:56.510
There were changes to the process

01:55:56.510 --> 01:55:59.760
from all sides and they
were really good discussions,

01:55:59.760 --> 01:56:01.080
really good input,

01:56:01.080 --> 01:56:04.100
and I think really well thought
out changes to the process

01:56:04.100 --> 01:56:07.160
that led us to the very
strong final product.

01:56:07.160 --> 01:56:08.980
I really want to state that also.

01:56:08.980 --> 01:56:10.420
Ms. Hardy?

01:56:10.420 --> 01:56:11.860
<v ->This is just a technical thing,</v>

01:56:11.860 --> 01:56:16.860
are they going to redo
the Dyslexia Handbook?

01:56:17.280 --> 01:56:20.060
<v ->You mean, re-print it?</v>
<v ->Re-print it.</v>

01:56:20.060 --> 01:56:22.520
<v Dr. Ellis>I'm sure they are.</v>

01:56:22.520 --> 01:56:25.180
<v ->Is it going to take
more than just like,</v>

01:56:25.180 --> 01:56:29.550
the initial change here of
who is going to be served?

01:56:29.550 --> 01:56:31.451
How's it going to change the,

01:56:31.451 --> 01:56:34.290
I mean it won't be a tremendous change,

01:56:34.290 --> 01:56:36.160
but it will be a
meaningful change, right?

01:56:36.160 --> 01:56:37.200
Is that right?

01:56:37.200 --> 01:56:41.110
<v ->Yeah, Ms. Hardy and we're
happy to anyone who would like</v>

01:56:41.110 --> 01:56:44.790
to see a copy of the language
that shows the changes

01:56:44.790 --> 01:56:45.640
within the handbook.

01:56:45.640 --> 01:56:47.602
We can email that document to you.

01:56:47.602 --> 01:56:51.390
In addition to that, the
committee did give us permission

01:56:51.390 --> 01:56:54.210
to go in and update front matter,

01:56:54.210 --> 01:56:56.850
we'll change the color on the cover

01:56:56.850 --> 01:56:59.590
so that it's clear that
it is a new version.

01:56:59.590 --> 01:57:02.583
We are also going to be
updating the appendices,

01:57:02.583 --> 01:57:06.288
and some of the
comments that we received,

01:57:06.288 --> 01:57:09.610
we're going to provide
clarification in those FAQ's.

01:57:09.610 --> 01:57:12.620
So we will do all of that,

01:57:12.620 --> 01:57:14.840
hopefully between now
and your next meeting,

01:57:14.840 --> 01:57:17.030
we'll get through the
rule-making process,

01:57:17.030 --> 01:57:19.070
and then also take the important step

01:57:19.070 --> 01:57:21.250
of making sure that the
changes are translated

01:57:21.250 --> 01:57:23.350
into Spanish, so that we can post all

01:57:23.350 --> 01:57:25.480
of that and make it
available as soon as possible.

01:57:25.480 --> 01:57:27.010
<v ->Thank you that'd
be helpful to share</v>

01:57:27.010 --> 01:57:30.410
with the people that have called.

01:57:30.410 --> 01:57:32.050
<v ->Dr. Young and
Dr. Bell-Metereau?</v>

01:57:32.050 --> 01:57:33.620
Do you have anything else?

01:57:33.620 --> 01:57:34.520
Dr. Bell-Metereau?

01:57:35.619 --> 01:57:38.750
<v ->Yes, one of the people who
commented at our testimony</v>

01:57:38.750 --> 01:57:41.800
had mentioned the use
of the word standard,

01:57:41.800 --> 01:57:44.340
and asking for a universal removal

01:57:44.340 --> 01:57:47.460
of that word, because
it causes confusion

01:57:47.460 --> 01:57:51.840
and I don't understand how
the revision process works

01:57:51.840 --> 01:57:56.640
but I don't know if that
suggestion will be available

01:57:56.640 --> 01:57:59.450
or if it's too late to do that.

01:57:59.450 --> 01:58:02.250
So I just ask the wiser people

01:58:02.250 --> 01:58:04.553
than I am to answer that question.

01:58:06.220 --> 01:58:08.190
<v ->So Dr. Bell-Metereau</v>

01:58:08.190 --> 01:58:11.310
that a substantive
change, not a technical edit

01:58:11.310 --> 01:58:14.470
and that would have required action

01:58:14.470 --> 01:58:17.320
on the part of this Board
before you took the final vote.

01:58:20.900 --> 01:58:22.550
<v ->We ready for Ms. Melton-Malone?</v>

01:58:23.610 --> 01:58:24.605
<v ->Yes.</v>

01:58:24.605 --> 01:58:27.853
I have another motion that
relates to this particular item.

01:58:31.010 --> 01:58:32.810
The Committee on Instruction recommends

01:58:32.810 --> 01:58:35.550
that the State Board
of Education approve

01:58:35.550 --> 01:58:37.380
for second reading and final adoption,

01:58:37.380 --> 01:58:40.830
the proposed amendment
to 19 DAC Chapter 74,

01:58:40.830 --> 01:58:43.270
curriculum-
<v ->Hold on just a second.</v>

01:58:43.270 --> 01:58:45.123
I think we had that one.

01:58:45.123 --> 01:58:47.164
<v ->Oh we fixed it?</v>
<v ->Yeah, we fixed that.</v>

01:58:47.164 --> 01:58:48.731
<v ->Well, thank you.</v>

01:58:48.731 --> 01:58:49.564
Well, I just want to take a minute too,

01:58:49.564 --> 01:58:50.397
to thank the committee

01:58:50.397 --> 01:58:52.170
on the work for this Dyslexia Handbook,

01:58:52.170 --> 01:58:53.830
and particularly Dr. Young,

01:58:53.830 --> 01:58:56.628
she is in the trenches with
all the dyslexia students,

01:58:56.628 --> 01:58:59.450
and she knows what works
and what doesn't work.

01:58:59.450 --> 01:59:03.720
So we appreciate you so
much because as Mrs. Little said,

01:59:03.720 --> 01:59:06.170
we frequently turned to
her to say will this work,

01:59:06.170 --> 01:59:07.725
well this won't work,

01:59:07.725 --> 01:59:09.493
(chuckles) so thank you so much.

01:59:10.662 --> 01:59:12.310
<v ->Okay, I believe you
are now on seven,</v>

01:59:12.310 --> 01:59:13.800
which is the pre-K guidelines.

01:59:13.800 --> 01:59:14.633
<v ->Yes.</v>

01:59:19.130 --> 01:59:20.813
Are we ready?
<v ->We are ready.</v>

01:59:21.950 --> 01:59:23.640
<v ->The Committee on
Instruction recommends</v>

01:59:23.640 --> 01:59:25.400
that the State Board of Education

01:59:25.400 --> 01:59:28.030
require that all publishers
make changes listed

01:59:28.030 --> 01:59:31.260
in the Texas Pre-Kindergarten
guidelines update

01:59:31.260 --> 01:59:33.400
report of editorial changes,

01:59:33.400 --> 01:59:36.765
approve changes and
corrections submitted

01:59:36.765 --> 01:59:39.630
in response to written
comments and public testimony,

01:59:39.630 --> 01:59:42.450
and update the official TPG percentage

01:59:42.450 --> 01:59:47.160
for instructional materials
reviewed for TPG updates

01:59:47.160 --> 01:59:50.973
on the instructional materials
current adoption bulletin.

01:59:54.870 --> 01:59:56.280
<v ->Members, we hear the motion,</v>

01:59:56.280 --> 01:59:58.137
is there any discussion on this item?

02:00:01.212 --> 02:00:03.210
Hearing none, I ask all those in favor

02:00:03.210 --> 02:00:06.063
to show by raising your hand.

02:00:13.960 --> 02:00:15.180
Any opposed by the same sign.

02:00:15.180 --> 02:00:16.640
There are 14 in favor

02:00:16.640 --> 02:00:20.013
and zero opposed and the
recommendation is adopted.

02:00:21.050 --> 02:00:22.909
<v ->Does that conclude yours?</v>
<v ->That's all I have.</v>

02:00:22.909 --> 02:00:25.127
<v ->All right, Mr. Maynard,
are you ready?</v>

02:00:25.127 --> 02:00:25.960
<v Mr. Maynard>I'm ready.</v>

02:00:25.960 --> 02:00:27.150
<v ->We'll move to
item number eight.</v>

02:00:27.150 --> 02:00:28.850
This item number eight
is proposed amendment

02:00:28.850 --> 02:00:30.780
to 19 TAC Chapter 1-0-9,

02:00:30.780 --> 02:00:32.050
budgeting, accounting and auditing,

02:00:32.050 --> 02:00:35.684
Subchapter B, Texas Education
Agency Audit Functions,

02:00:35.684 --> 02:00:38.790
1-0-9 dot 25, State
Compensatory Education Program

02:00:38.790 --> 02:00:40.570
Reporting and Auditing System.

02:00:40.570 --> 02:00:42.050
Second reading, final adoption

02:00:42.050 --> 02:00:45.880
on page, agenda item III dash three.

02:00:45.880 --> 02:00:46.713
<v ->Yeah, Mr Chair,</v>

02:00:46.713 --> 02:00:49.729
I've moved that the on
behalf of the committee,

02:00:49.729 --> 02:00:51.100
that the State Board
of Education approve,

02:00:51.100 --> 02:00:52.470
for second reading
and following adoption,

02:00:52.470 --> 02:00:56.169
proposed amendment
to 19 TAC Chapter 1-0-9,

02:00:56.169 --> 02:00:58.887
budgeting, accounting and auditing,

02:00:58.887 --> 02:01:03.887
Subchapter B, Texas Education
Agency Audit Functions,

02:01:05.331 --> 02:01:07.947
1-0-9 point 2-5, State
Compensatory Education Program

02:01:07.947 --> 02:01:09.239
Reporting and Auditing System,

02:01:09.239 --> 02:01:13.008
and make an affirmative finding
that the immediate adoption

02:01:13.008 --> 02:01:16.195
of the proposed amendment
to 19 TAC Chapter 1-0-9,

02:01:16.195 --> 02:01:18.828
budgeting accounting and auditing,

02:01:18.828 --> 02:01:22.571
Subchapter B Texas Education
Agency Audit Functions,

02:01:22.571 --> 02:01:27.571
1-0-9 point 2-5, State
Compensatory Education Program

02:01:27.883 --> 02:01:30.270
Reporting and Auditing
System is necessary.

02:01:30.270 --> 02:01:32.830
Shall have an effective
date of 20 days after filing,

02:01:32.830 --> 02:01:34.623
as adopted with the Texas Register.

02:01:38.019 --> 02:01:40.069
<v ->Members, is there
any debate this item?</v>

02:01:42.020 --> 02:01:43.650
Mr. Hickman.

02:01:43.650 --> 02:01:45.610
<v ->Sorry, I'm confused.</v>

02:01:45.610 --> 02:01:47.370
This was consent and it was pulled.

02:01:47.370 --> 02:01:48.203
Who pulled it?

02:01:48.203 --> 02:01:50.710
And did they explain why
this was needed to be pulled?

02:01:51.920 --> 02:01:55.037
<v ->Well, Mr. Chairman, it
was our understanding</v>

02:01:55.037 --> 02:01:58.920
that we needed a record
vote of two thirds on it.

02:01:58.920 --> 02:02:02.615
But we have been schooled a little bit

02:02:02.615 --> 02:02:05.030
by our parliamentarian,
which was happens frequently.

02:02:05.030 --> 02:02:06.280
But if we had put it on consent,

02:02:06.280 --> 02:02:08.820
it would have had a
probably unanimous vote,

02:02:08.820 --> 02:02:10.070
which would have counted.

02:02:11.468 --> 02:02:14.730
And so, lesson learned

02:02:14.730 --> 02:02:19.193
but, we try to be good students
with Ms. Kay over there, so.

02:02:26.720 --> 02:02:29.260
<v ->All right I ask
all those in favor</v>

02:02:29.260 --> 02:02:30.093
to show by raising your hand.

02:02:36.580 --> 02:02:38.020
All those opposed by the same sign.

02:02:38.020 --> 02:02:41.020
There's 14 in favor and zero opposed,

02:02:41.020 --> 02:02:43.973
and the recommendation is adopted.

02:02:45.120 --> 02:02:47.195
<v ->Mr. Chairman, I
believe everything else</v>

02:02:47.195 --> 02:02:48.440
that we have was on the Consent Agenda,

02:02:48.440 --> 02:02:49.790
but I just want to point out

02:02:49.790 --> 02:02:54.320
to the Board that the
committee did take a look

02:02:54.320 --> 02:02:58.026
at the Certificate of Formation
for the PSF Corporation,

02:02:58.026 --> 02:03:01.530
and that will be an action
item in the next meeting.

02:03:01.530 --> 02:03:04.010
And so, I would encourage you

02:03:04.010 --> 02:03:07.640
to please review that
before you come back.

02:03:07.640 --> 02:03:09.690
It's kind of considered, you know,

02:03:09.690 --> 02:03:11.630
best practice on governing documents

02:03:11.630 --> 02:03:12.990
that you would introduce those

02:03:12.990 --> 02:03:15.340
at one meeting and then give people time

02:03:15.340 --> 02:03:17.940
to look at that, to review that

02:03:17.940 --> 02:03:21.800
before we actually take action on that.

02:03:21.800 --> 02:03:24.403
So that's going to be a
very important document.

02:03:25.360 --> 02:03:30.110
<v ->I'll kind of reiterate also
that once we adopt those,</v>

02:03:30.110 --> 02:03:32.480
the Certificate of Formation,
correct, is what it is?

02:03:32.480 --> 02:03:33.800
Once we adopt that,

02:03:33.800 --> 02:03:38.800
the new PSF investment
committee will be formed.

02:03:38.883 --> 02:03:42.505
It's very complex work to get done.

02:03:42.505 --> 02:03:44.560
I would ask, maybe if staff can help me

02:03:44.560 --> 02:03:47.520
with this, send a link out to the PSF.

02:03:47.520 --> 02:03:50.530
There's about a 30 to 45
minute presentation by staff

02:03:50.530 --> 02:03:52.520
that really walked through
the timeline of all that.

02:03:52.520 --> 02:03:53.710
I think would be important

02:03:53.710 --> 02:03:55.900
that sometime between
now and your next meeting,

02:03:55.900 --> 02:03:57.780
if you're able to go
back and listen to it,

02:03:57.780 --> 02:04:00.690
they did an incredible job
about just explaining each step,

02:04:00.690 --> 02:04:02.450
what it means, what
it's going to take us to.

02:04:02.450 --> 02:04:04.117
So I'd ask that you find some time.

02:04:04.117 --> 02:04:05.700
And if staff can send that link

02:04:05.700 --> 02:04:09.018
from the PSF committee
meeting yesterday on that item.

02:04:09.018 --> 02:04:09.851
Yes.

02:04:09.851 --> 02:04:14.720
<v ->Yeah, Mr Chairman if
anything what you find is that</v>

02:04:14.720 --> 02:04:16.180
as you peel back that onion

02:04:16.180 --> 02:04:18.250
and you find all the different layers,

02:04:18.250 --> 02:04:22.000
you understand the complexity of

02:04:22.000 --> 02:04:24.220
what it's going to take for
us to actually make this move

02:04:24.220 --> 02:04:26.510
into this corporate structure.

02:04:26.510 --> 02:04:28.390
And so there's just going to be a lot

02:04:28.390 --> 02:04:31.093
of work going on
between now and then, so.

02:04:34.857 --> 02:04:37.548
<v ->Okay, does that
conclude your items?</v>

02:04:37.548 --> 02:04:41.770
<v ->I believe that completes-</v>
<v ->Dr. Metereau.</v>

02:04:41.770 --> 02:04:43.293
<v ->I just had a question.</v>

02:04:44.220 --> 02:04:47.700
I am very impressed with
the work that you're doing

02:04:47.700 --> 02:04:52.700
and how long it's taken to
make this change happen.

02:04:52.920 --> 02:04:57.920
But I want to return to ask
if we're going to consider

02:04:59.135 --> 02:05:03.401
or reconsider Greenbrook investments,

02:05:03.401 --> 02:05:05.680
in light of all of that testimony,

02:05:05.680 --> 02:05:10.560
I would like to know if we're going to

02:05:10.560 --> 02:05:12.373
listen to these people?

02:05:13.210 --> 02:05:15.170
<v ->I'd be happy to
visit with you offline,</v>

02:05:15.170 --> 02:05:18.100
we are not posted to
discuss that particular item

02:05:18.100 --> 02:05:19.530
of business at this time.

02:05:19.530 --> 02:05:22.067
So it would not be-
<v ->I was just asking</v>

02:05:22.067 --> 02:05:23.362
about the future.

02:05:23.362 --> 02:05:25.268
May not be proper for us to discuss.

02:05:25.268 --> 02:05:28.078
<v ->I understand, I'm just
asking about the future,</v>

02:05:28.078 --> 02:05:31.313
you know, the future agenda
if that will be any moment.

02:05:31.313 --> 02:05:32.623
<v ->I can answer that, I think.</v>

02:05:32.623 --> 02:05:34.020
And I would point out to
that, I think it was Ms. Davis,

02:05:34.020 --> 02:05:35.620
who requested that we have

02:05:35.620 --> 02:05:37.300
an agenda item on our last meeting.

02:05:37.300 --> 02:05:39.833
So we had an agenda
item that we discussed that.

02:05:39.833 --> 02:05:42.650
As with any agenda
item, if there's a question

02:05:42.650 --> 02:05:45.470
or concern, as I usually
say towards the end

02:05:45.470 --> 02:05:46.730
of the meeting, make sure that you come

02:05:46.730 --> 02:05:48.800
to me early in the process
between one meeting

02:05:48.800 --> 02:05:51.320
to the next and that would
be the proper process

02:05:51.320 --> 02:05:54.330
for a member to request
an agenda item at that time.

02:05:54.330 --> 02:05:57.270
And then we can discuss
whether it's appropriate to have it.

02:05:57.270 --> 02:06:01.430
<v ->So I could request an agenda
item for the next meeting?</v>

02:06:01.430 --> 02:06:02.920
<v ->Yes, you can come to me,</v>

02:06:02.920 --> 02:06:03.827
not at this point in time
<v ->No, I mean in the future.</v>

02:06:03.827 --> 02:06:06.020
<v ->This is not the point of
the meeting, but yes, yes.</v>

02:06:06.020 --> 02:06:07.920
On Monday morning, you can call me.

02:06:07.920 --> 02:06:10.054
Well, Monday's a holiday,
maybe on Tuesday.

02:06:10.054 --> 02:06:12.750
<v ->I did not realize
that. Thank you.</v>

02:06:12.750 --> 02:06:13.893
<v ->Yes. You're welcome.</v>

02:06:16.732 --> 02:06:18.363
After eight o'clock.

02:06:19.540 --> 02:06:22.573
All right, anything else Mr. Maynard?

02:06:23.660 --> 02:06:26.138
Dr. Robinson, did you
have anything for us?

02:06:26.138 --> 02:06:30.364
<v ->I think our three action items
were on the Consent Agenda.</v>

02:06:30.364 --> 02:06:32.683
One of our discussion items-

02:06:35.979 --> 02:06:37.273
<v ->Is your microphone on?</v>

02:06:37.273 --> 02:06:38.106
<v ->What?</v>

02:06:38.106 --> 02:06:38.939
<v ->Is your mic on? I'm not sure.</v>

02:06:38.939 --> 02:06:40.913
<v ->I think so, yeah, yeah.</v>

02:06:41.850 --> 02:06:46.130
One of our discussion
items was on House Bill 690

02:06:46.130 --> 02:06:47.713
that the ledge just passed.

02:06:49.130 --> 02:06:52.030
Requires the Texas School Safety Center

02:06:52.030 --> 02:06:53.660
to develop curriculum and materials

02:06:53.660 --> 02:06:54.970
for school safety training

02:06:54.970 --> 02:06:58.470
to be completed by
school district Trustees,

02:06:58.470 --> 02:07:01.440
and the Director of the
Texas School Safety Center

02:07:01.440 --> 02:07:06.203
presented a kind of
overview of this to us.

02:07:08.166 --> 02:07:10.724
So basically, it's additional training

02:07:10.724 --> 02:07:15.724
for School Board Trustees that
the legislature has mandated.

02:07:15.766 --> 02:07:18.530
It really is not going to
cost the districts anything

02:07:18.530 --> 02:07:22.240
because it's going to be
something that can be done online.

02:07:22.240 --> 02:07:23.420
So it's not like they all had

02:07:23.420 --> 02:07:26.120
to physically gather and
somebody has to come to them.

02:07:29.108 --> 02:07:32.997
There was a bit of a time
constraint, in that this program,

02:07:34.980 --> 02:07:38.300
this curriculum has to be
developed by January 1.

02:07:38.300 --> 02:07:41.645
So what's going to happen going forward,

02:07:41.645 --> 02:07:46.270
is the Texas School Safety
Center from Texas state

02:07:46.270 --> 02:07:48.590
is going to be developing the curriculum

02:07:48.590 --> 02:07:53.590
and materials in conjunction
with interaction from us.

02:07:54.740 --> 02:07:56.740
And then in our November
meeting, we would have

02:07:56.740 --> 02:08:01.740
to vote and finalize,
approve that curriculum plan.

02:08:01.910 --> 02:08:04.819
So we did discuss the idea of,

02:08:04.819 --> 02:08:07.550
so that between now and
our November meeting,

02:08:07.550 --> 02:08:12.550
we could have input with them
to form an ad hoc committee

02:08:14.300 --> 02:08:17.550
to meet virtually with them,

02:08:17.550 --> 02:08:21.923
to try to, you know, be
involved in the process basically.

02:08:23.140 --> 02:08:24.303
<v ->Thank you, Dr. Robinson,</v>

02:08:24.303 --> 02:08:26.450
I do want to point out
one key important point.

02:08:26.450 --> 02:08:28.360
This was at the
direction of the legislature.

02:08:28.360 --> 02:08:30.800
This was not the State
Board of Education's idea,

02:08:30.800 --> 02:08:32.920
that School Board Trustees
need additional training.

02:08:32.920 --> 02:08:36.654
They just asked us with
working to develop the curriculum,

02:08:36.654 --> 02:08:39.418
and because, as he so aptly mentioned,

02:08:39.418 --> 02:08:40.870
because of the deadline there,

02:08:40.870 --> 02:08:43.225
I think my intention is
going to be and I'm going

02:08:43.225 --> 02:08:45.270
to work with Dr. Robinson to
appoint an ad hoc committee

02:08:45.270 --> 02:08:47.640
because we will have
to make the final decision

02:08:47.640 --> 02:08:50.681
at our next meeting and
then, if we don't have things set,

02:08:50.681 --> 02:08:52.900
there wouldn't be
another meeting to do that.

02:08:52.900 --> 02:08:55.510
So one idea that him and I talked about

02:08:55.510 --> 02:08:57.500
is just possibly having the Committee

02:08:57.500 --> 02:09:00.010
on School Initiatives make
up that ad hoc committee.

02:09:00.010 --> 02:09:02.760
But we'll talk about that and whatever.

02:09:02.760 --> 02:09:03.700
Any other members

02:09:03.700 --> 02:09:05.960
who might be interested in
working with that let me know,

02:09:05.960 --> 02:09:09.223
Tuesday morning also
and we'll discuss that.

02:09:10.232 --> 02:09:11.632
Anything else that you have?

02:09:12.630 --> 02:09:15.253
All right, I think we
are winding down here.

02:09:17.720 --> 02:09:21.330
All right, Members, that
concludes our agenda today.

02:09:21.330 --> 02:09:23.110
This is typically a time

02:09:23.110 --> 02:09:25.260
where we spend a few
minutes telling each other,

02:09:25.260 --> 02:09:26.510
maybe what accomplishments,

02:09:26.510 --> 02:09:29.473
or awards or hold on just a second.

02:09:33.950 --> 02:09:36.203
Call on Vaughn for a
correction real quick.

02:09:39.244 --> 02:09:40.990
<v ->I wanted to apologize</v>

02:09:40.990 --> 02:09:43.080
to the Board, when
you had your discussion

02:09:43.080 --> 02:09:45.670
with the Commissioner earlier this week,

02:09:45.670 --> 02:09:50.440
around the Charter Expansion Amendments,

02:09:50.440 --> 02:09:52.720
I gave him incorrect advice.

02:09:52.720 --> 02:09:55.430
And he, thus gave you incorrect advice.

02:09:55.430 --> 02:09:57.805
You were talking about
the Charter Expansion

02:09:57.805 --> 02:10:02.350
where if 90% of the
campuses were acceptable,

02:10:02.350 --> 02:10:05.028
that would qualify for you.

02:10:05.028 --> 02:10:08.300
There are a couple more requirements

02:10:08.300 --> 02:10:11.024
than that, but that was
the main discussion.

02:10:11.024 --> 02:10:13.030
That is actually by Commissioner rule.

02:10:13.030 --> 02:10:14.080
And you can find that

02:10:15.047 --> 02:10:18.210
in 19 TAC, 100 dot 10-33 B,

02:10:19.870 --> 02:10:23.540
9-A, romanette three.

02:10:23.540 --> 02:10:25.320
Sorry, that's a mouthful.

02:10:25.320 --> 02:10:30.320
There is a legislative mandated
expansion amendment,

02:10:30.880 --> 02:10:33.280
which you can find in the
Texas Education Code,

02:10:33.280 --> 02:10:38.130
12 dot 1-0-1, subsection B dash 4.

02:10:38.130 --> 02:10:39.150
That is a different standard,

02:10:39.150 --> 02:10:44.150
and that one would require
legislative change to alter,

02:10:44.920 --> 02:10:47.310
but your discussion was
centered around the 90% rule,

02:10:47.310 --> 02:10:51.383
and that is in fact, a
Commissioner rule.

02:10:53.770 --> 02:10:55.880
<v ->I did, Mr Chair.</v>
<v ->Hold on a second.</v>

02:10:55.880 --> 02:10:58.179
Do you have a question on this one?

02:10:58.179 --> 02:10:59.890
<v Mr. Cortez>I have a question
about something we missed.</v>

02:10:59.890 --> 02:11:01.234
<v Dr. Ellis>I'm sorry, I'm sorry.</v>

02:11:01.234 --> 02:11:02.067
<v Mr. Cortez>I have a question</v>

02:11:02.067 --> 02:11:03.570
about something that we missed.

02:11:03.570 --> 02:11:04.864
<v Dr. Ellis>On the agenda, okay.</v>

02:11:04.864 --> 02:11:07.050
Do you have a question?
<v ->No, not that.</v>

02:11:07.050 --> 02:11:09.853
<v Dr. Ellis>Was there any
other questions for Mr. Byer?</v>

02:11:11.366 --> 02:11:14.553
<v ->Mr. Byers, Are
we, is this something</v>

02:11:16.078 --> 02:11:20.540
that particular Charter School
that we were talking about?

02:11:20.540 --> 02:11:22.083
Did it meet the threshold?

02:11:26.029 --> 02:11:27.840
<v ->Well my presumption is,
it did meet the threshold,</v>

02:11:27.840 --> 02:11:29.720
since we provided the
expansion amendment,

02:11:29.720 --> 02:11:32.383
but I cannot walk you
through the details of that.

02:11:33.231 --> 02:11:34.930
<v Ms. Hardy>Okay.</v>

02:11:34.930 --> 02:11:38.550
<v ->But we should have
staff who could contact you</v>

02:11:38.550 --> 02:11:41.430
and walk you through the
calculus that they went through.

02:11:41.430 --> 02:11:42.930
<v Ms. Hardy>Okay, thank you.</v>

02:11:44.990 --> 02:11:46.450
<v Dr. Ellis>Did I miss something?</v>

02:11:46.450 --> 02:11:49.840
<v ->Yes, sir, on our committee
of School Initiatives,</v>

02:11:49.840 --> 02:11:52.178
we had a staff that was going

02:11:52.178 --> 02:11:56.410
to come and visit with
us, on generation 27.

02:11:56.410 --> 02:11:58.780
We'd been asking for some information,

02:11:58.780 --> 02:12:02.410
and we had asked if they
can come and share with us

02:12:02.410 --> 02:12:07.410
what the outcome of some
recommendations that were

02:12:07.580 --> 02:12:12.180
asked for to see which, if
any, would be considered.

02:12:12.180 --> 02:12:14.160
And she indicated she'd
be here this morning.

02:12:14.160 --> 02:12:17.255
<v Dr. Ellis>Okay, I
apologize, I wasn't-</v>

02:12:17.255 --> 02:12:21.870
<v ->So you're actually not
posted to have a discussion</v>

02:12:21.870 --> 02:12:23.420
of Charter Schools today.

02:12:23.420 --> 02:12:25.420
That was a discussion item in committee.

02:12:25.420 --> 02:12:27.220
And as I think everyone knows,

02:12:27.220 --> 02:12:30.140
you are only posted to discuss.

02:12:30.140 --> 02:12:32.460
<v Mr. Cortez>We were going to
discuss the recommendation.</v>

02:12:32.460 --> 02:12:33.447
That's all we were gonna do.

02:12:33.447 --> 02:12:34.830
<v ->But you're not posted</v>

02:12:34.830 --> 02:12:37.203
to discuss that
formally in this meeting.

02:12:37.203 --> 02:12:39.760
I think staff can be available

02:12:39.760 --> 02:12:43.625
to visit with individual
members, but this would have had

02:12:43.625 --> 02:12:46.475
to been an action item for
you to have Friday discussion.

02:12:48.000 --> 02:12:50.350
<v ->Well, it's not, it's not
even an action item.</v>

02:12:51.860 --> 02:12:52.693
<v ->So what you're
saying is that anything</v>

02:12:52.693 --> 02:12:55.210
that we have during the
week that's a discussion item,

02:12:55.210 --> 02:12:57.140
does not go to the Friday agenda,

02:12:57.140 --> 02:13:00.180
only action items during our committees

02:13:00.180 --> 02:13:01.933
go to the full Board meeting.

02:13:08.350 --> 02:13:09.841
Anything else on that?

02:13:09.841 --> 02:13:13.660
<v ->You're saying they can't
even come and share with us,</v>

02:13:13.660 --> 02:13:16.053
yes, we've reviewed this information?

02:13:17.784 --> 02:13:19.050
I mean, it doesn't have
to be a back and forth,

02:13:19.050 --> 02:13:20.050
I just want to hear from them,

02:13:20.050 --> 02:13:21.470
yes, we looked at it.

02:13:21.470 --> 02:13:23.536
No, we're not going to consider it,

02:13:23.536 --> 02:13:24.740
if we're gonna consider it.

02:13:24.740 --> 02:13:27.713
<v ->They can come and offline
visit with individual members.</v>

02:13:29.368 --> 02:13:30.990
You're not posted to have
them present information to you

02:13:30.990 --> 02:13:32.198
during your-

02:13:32.198 --> 02:13:33.630
<v ->My Byer, what are we posted for</v>

02:13:33.630 --> 02:13:36.413
with what I'm referring to specifically?

02:13:38.950 --> 02:13:42.960
<v ->So I think as Monica
indicated for today's meeting,</v>

02:13:42.960 --> 02:13:46.003
you are posted to
discuss the action items.

02:13:46.920 --> 02:13:49.370
And that was a discussion item

02:13:49.370 --> 02:13:53.320
that you had in your committee.

02:13:53.320 --> 02:13:56.820
And so, it has not
been posted for today.

02:13:56.820 --> 02:14:00.505
If we, as staff, mistakenly told you

02:14:00.505 --> 02:14:05.290
that we could come and talk
to you, to the full board today,

02:14:05.290 --> 02:14:10.290
then that's our bad for
misleading you on that.

02:14:10.840 --> 02:14:12.364
<v ->Well I'll just add,</v>

02:14:12.364 --> 02:14:14.286
that we do have some staff
who are new and may not-

02:14:14.286 --> 02:14:15.530
<v ->Just for my clarification,
by staff coming</v>

02:14:15.530 --> 02:14:19.133
and talking to us, how does
that make it an action item?

02:14:19.133 --> 02:14:21.440
Just for my clarity, I mean-

02:14:21.440 --> 02:14:25.450
<v ->It's not a question
of whether it's an...</v>

02:14:27.040 --> 02:14:29.170
For the Open Meetings
Act, it's irrelevant

02:14:29.170 --> 02:14:31.730
whether it's an action
item or non-action item.

02:14:31.730 --> 02:14:35.600
The question is, did
we give the public notice

02:14:35.600 --> 02:14:38.850
that that issue would
be discussed today?

02:14:38.850 --> 02:14:40.350
And that has not happened

02:14:40.350 --> 02:14:43.414
because we have only
posted for the items

02:14:43.414 --> 02:14:48.030
that you were going to
take action on for Friday.

02:14:48.030 --> 02:14:51.840
Since the Thursday posting
was a discussion item,

02:14:51.840 --> 02:14:55.453
we did not move that forward for today.

02:14:56.410 --> 02:14:58.330
<v ->But we did move it forward</v>

02:14:58.330 --> 02:15:02.020
from committee to have it brought here.

02:15:02.020 --> 02:15:03.970
That was the conversation in committee.

02:15:04.810 --> 02:15:07.048
<v ->Mr. Cortez, we have to-</v>

02:15:07.048 --> 02:15:08.140
(indistinct)

02:15:08.140 --> 02:15:09.300
<v ->We have to publish,</v>

02:15:09.300 --> 02:15:12.444
I want to see if this will help, we have

02:15:12.444 --> 02:15:14.810
to publish notice of
anything that you're going

02:15:15.645 --> 02:15:18.310
to discuss seven days in
advance of your meeting.

02:15:18.310 --> 02:15:20.560
So in order for you to have a discussion

02:15:20.560 --> 02:15:22.420
about the Charter School item today,

02:15:22.420 --> 02:15:25.200
we would have had to
file that seven days ago.

02:15:25.200 --> 02:15:28.360
This is similar to what
Dr. Ellis mentioned,

02:15:28.360 --> 02:15:30.180
you can't have, and Mr. Maynard,

02:15:30.180 --> 02:15:32.350
that you couldn't have a
discussion about Greenbrook

02:15:32.350 --> 02:15:34.753
because you're not posted
to have that discussion.

02:15:34.753 --> 02:15:36.250
We have to provide the public

02:15:36.250 --> 02:15:38.740
with seven days notice
for any of the topics

02:15:38.740 --> 02:15:42.323
that you're going to talk
about each day of your meeting.

02:15:42.323 --> 02:15:43.894
<v ->So I think Mr. Cortez,</v>

02:15:43.894 --> 02:15:46.670
I think where you're trying
to get to is that we can have

02:15:46.670 --> 02:15:50.070
this discussion in
the full Board, correct?

02:15:50.070 --> 02:15:52.510
And so, this would
typically not be something

02:15:52.510 --> 02:15:54.800
that comes to a Friday
meeting, because we are dealing

02:15:54.800 --> 02:15:57.047
with action items, that's a discussion.

02:15:57.047 --> 02:15:58.260
And as we said, a couple of times,

02:15:58.260 --> 02:15:59.190
I think what might be useful here,

02:15:59.190 --> 02:16:01.720
is if you get with
me, if there is an item

02:16:01.720 --> 02:16:03.960
that we need to have on the
Committee of the Full Board,

02:16:03.960 --> 02:16:07.320
or out next meeting, that would
be heard by the whole Board,

02:16:07.320 --> 02:16:08.930
then that would be an appropriate time,

02:16:08.930 --> 02:16:10.950
I think your point is that
you want a full Board

02:16:10.950 --> 02:16:15.440
to hear this and not just
the five of that committee.

02:16:15.440 --> 02:16:18.310
The way we can get to there from here

02:16:18.310 --> 02:16:20.500
would be to post that on our
Committee of the Full Board

02:16:20.500 --> 02:16:21.890
at our next meeting.

02:16:21.890 --> 02:16:23.410
<v ->So so yes, that is correct.</v>

02:16:23.410 --> 02:16:25.340
I do want the entire board to hear it,

02:16:25.340 --> 02:16:29.000
and in large part, Mr. Chair, is because

02:16:30.801 --> 02:16:33.501
this is going to be posted
in the register for Gen 27.

02:16:36.510 --> 02:16:39.970
And it doesn't seem as
if this body is in any kind

02:16:39.970 --> 02:16:42.633
of partnership with the
agency when it comes to this.

02:16:43.520 --> 02:16:44.940
I'm the longest serving member

02:16:44.940 --> 02:16:48.040
on that committee, I've made
numerous recommendations,

02:16:48.040 --> 02:16:50.150
none of which have been considered.

02:16:50.150 --> 02:16:51.700
We have a new lady who's

02:16:51.700 --> 02:16:54.853
in there now and so we've
had this dialogue with her.

02:16:56.070 --> 02:16:58.330
She expressed to us that she'd be here,

02:16:58.330 --> 02:17:01.650
I'm understanding now why she isn't.

02:17:01.650 --> 02:17:04.690
However, I think it's important-

02:17:04.690 --> 02:17:07.083
<v ->Hold on Mr. Cortez,
We have a point of order.</v>

02:17:09.935 --> 02:17:12.492
So the point of orders
that we're getting

02:17:12.492 --> 02:17:15.700
to discussion and I agree, I
think that there's two things.

02:17:15.700 --> 02:17:18.020
Number one is, if you're looking

02:17:18.020 --> 02:17:21.650
for the information to get
distributed to the Board,

02:17:21.650 --> 02:17:22.840
she can't do that here today.

02:17:22.840 --> 02:17:24.310
I would ask that she distribute

02:17:24.310 --> 02:17:27.205
that to the Board,
individually by email,

02:17:27.205 --> 02:17:29.730
typically, that's something we can do.

02:17:29.730 --> 02:17:30.700
<v ->It's my understanding</v>

02:17:30.700 --> 02:17:33.240
that she's already shared
some information via email,

02:17:33.240 --> 02:17:35.540
I'll make sure that goes
to all Board members.

02:17:36.880 --> 02:17:39.000
<v ->With me, for any future
items that you would want</v>

02:17:39.000 --> 02:17:40.850
on the Committee of the
Full Board of the next meeting.

02:17:40.850 --> 02:17:42.490
I think that's probably all we can go

02:17:42.490 --> 02:17:44.043
with on that, Ms. Davis.

02:17:44.950 --> 02:17:46.700
<v ->For clarity, with that item,</v>

02:17:46.700 --> 02:17:48.140
we were told that she received

02:17:48.140 --> 02:17:51.280
an email on Tuesday, that
she didn't really consider,

02:17:51.280 --> 02:17:52.440
and that she would go ahead

02:17:52.440 --> 02:17:53.940
and consider it and have something

02:17:53.940 --> 02:17:57.054
for us today and
explain that to us today.

02:17:57.054 --> 02:18:00.240
So for moving forward,
when we have staff that comes

02:18:00.240 --> 02:18:03.460
to present us an item and
they don't have it prepared,

02:18:03.460 --> 02:18:04.560
then what do we do to make sure

02:18:04.560 --> 02:18:05.620
that we have that information?

02:18:05.620 --> 02:18:06.540
Because at this point now,

02:18:06.540 --> 02:18:08.900
we have no say so in the application

02:18:08.900 --> 02:18:10.690
that's about to post
in a couple of days.

02:18:10.690 --> 02:18:12.130
<v ->So I think we would not,</v>

02:18:12.130 --> 02:18:15.720
even if she was here today,
there would not have been action

02:18:15.720 --> 02:18:16.630
this Board could have taken.

02:18:16.630 --> 02:18:17.730
It's just information.

02:18:17.730 --> 02:18:20.220
So I think what I'm trying
to help the concerns,

02:18:20.220 --> 02:18:22.410
if the information needs
to be given to this Board,

02:18:22.410 --> 02:18:24.830
we can email that
information to the Board.

02:18:24.830 --> 02:18:27.090
So that's that concern,

02:18:27.090 --> 02:18:29.790
even if we had it right
now, there's no act-

02:18:29.790 --> 02:18:32.620
<v ->So and just for clarity,
to understand the process.</v>

02:18:32.620 --> 02:18:36.130
So in committee, we
weren't given information,

02:18:36.130 --> 02:18:39.300
it's going to post before we meet again.

02:18:39.300 --> 02:18:42.535
So we will have no say
so for the next application.

02:18:42.535 --> 02:18:44.567
if we need to
<v ->Point of order.</v>

02:18:44.567 --> 02:18:47.316
<v ->Have it posted by-</v>
<v ->Hold on a second, Ms. Davis.</v>

02:18:47.316 --> 02:18:48.316
<v Mr. Byer>Point of order,</v>

02:18:48.316 --> 02:18:49.316
we're having the discussion again.

02:18:49.316 --> 02:18:50.500
<v ->I agree, I think we're having
the same discussion again.</v>

02:18:50.500 --> 02:18:52.942
I think we can work
towards, I think we're saying-

02:18:52.942 --> 02:18:55.442
(indistinct)

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The posting deadline is 7 or 10 days?

02:18:59.635 --> 02:19:01.161
<v Mr. Byer>It's 7.</v>

02:19:01.161 --> 02:19:02.590
<v ->It's seven days, the posting
deadline is seven days.</v>

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And that's why we have
to make these agendas

02:19:04.950 --> 02:19:06.470
before we even get here,

02:19:06.470 --> 02:19:08.440
and so that these
things, well, we decided

02:19:08.440 --> 02:19:10.650
to do something in committee,
we'll bring it on Friday,

02:19:10.650 --> 02:19:13.130
all have to be worked
out in advance on that.

02:19:13.130 --> 02:19:15.137
So and again, I bring the
point that even if it was here,

02:19:15.137 --> 02:19:18.070
it's not, it wouldn't have
been an action item anyways,

02:19:18.070 --> 02:19:19.040
as far as all that goes.

02:19:19.040 --> 02:19:22.590
<v ->Chair, if you could
at least make sure</v>

02:19:22.590 --> 02:19:25.340
that what was told to us
that was going to be provided

02:19:25.340 --> 02:19:28.083
to us, even though it
can't be in a discussion.

02:19:29.210 --> 02:19:31.310
If she can at least email us

02:19:32.220 --> 02:19:35.200
out of courtesy, what she
said she was going to do.

02:19:35.200 --> 02:19:36.905
<v ->That's what I asked
just a moment ago.</v>

02:19:36.905 --> 02:19:39.370
<v ->Because that email
I've not received Monica,</v>

02:19:39.370 --> 02:19:40.650
which is the request.

02:19:40.650 --> 02:19:43.120
<v ->You may also want
to check your inbox.</v>

02:19:43.120 --> 02:19:45.310
<v Mr. Cortez>In the inbox,
she did message us.</v>

02:19:45.310 --> 02:19:46.920
<v ->In your mailbox.</v>

02:19:46.920 --> 02:19:47.940
<v Mr. Cortez>She messaged us</v>

02:19:47.940 --> 02:19:50.060
that she sent just the statute,

02:19:50.060 --> 02:19:52.469
not the response to the question

02:19:52.469 --> 02:19:55.650
that I thought we were
going to discuss today.

02:19:55.650 --> 02:19:56.920
Those are two separate items.

02:19:56.920 --> 02:19:58.340
<v ->I'm hearing your point,
is that you would like</v>

02:19:58.340 --> 02:20:00.160
an email, I'd said that previously.

02:20:00.160 --> 02:20:01.590
I'm going to have staff email us

02:20:01.590 --> 02:20:03.160
the information you requested.

02:20:03.160 --> 02:20:04.423
Dr. Bell-Metereau.

02:20:06.490 --> 02:20:09.043
<v ->And I am just
asking a question,</v>

02:20:09.880 --> 02:20:12.453
So to propose an agenda item,

02:20:13.882 --> 02:20:18.320
I contact you and say
this is the agenda item

02:20:18.320 --> 02:20:22.020
that I would like to have
posted for the next meeting.

02:20:22.020 --> 02:20:24.280
<v ->Yes and then it is at the
discretion of the Board Chair,</v>

02:20:24.280 --> 02:20:26.900
whether to post that
item for the meeting.

02:20:26.900 --> 02:20:28.920
It's not, if you request it,

02:20:28.920 --> 02:20:30.657
that doesn't mean it
automatically gets posted,

02:20:30.657 --> 02:20:34.240
but you may request that
gets added to the agenda.

02:20:34.240 --> 02:20:39.240
<v ->And with a
justification for the item?</v>

02:20:39.340 --> 02:20:40.453
<v ->Yeah, that'd be great.</v>

02:20:41.800 --> 02:20:44.590
All right, so back to where
we were a few moments ago,

02:20:44.590 --> 02:20:45.423
this is a time

02:20:45.423 --> 02:20:47.705
where we typically talk
about accomplishments

02:20:47.705 --> 02:20:50.250
and things that have
gone on with your family.

02:20:50.250 --> 02:20:51.810
And I'm going to start

02:20:51.810 --> 02:20:54.265
with that, but I'm
going to ask some help

02:20:54.265 --> 02:20:59.220
from 14 of my colleagues
and if anyone has a great voice,

02:20:59.220 --> 02:21:00.300
I'll ask them to lead off

02:21:00.300 --> 02:21:03.880
with a, can we start
with a happy birthday?

02:21:03.880 --> 02:21:04.803
Everyone together.

02:21:05.825 --> 02:21:10.825
♪ Happy birthday to you,
Happy birthday to you ♪

02:21:12.802 --> 02:21:16.985
♪ Happy birthday, dear Matt ♪

02:21:16.985 --> 02:21:21.902
♪ Happy birthday to you ♪

02:21:23.582 --> 02:21:26.165
(all clapping)

02:21:27.620 --> 02:21:29.260
<v ->Speech?</v>

02:21:29.260 --> 02:21:31.760
<v ->Well I get to drive
home and I think my wife's</v>

02:21:31.760 --> 02:21:33.863
going to have dinner
for me when I get home.

02:21:33.863 --> 02:21:35.500
(all laughing)

02:21:35.500 --> 02:21:36.333
<v ->Maybe not.</v>

02:21:39.090 --> 02:21:40.040
<v ->All right Members,</v>

02:21:40.040 --> 02:21:42.540
anything else going on
that anyone wants to share?

02:21:44.470 --> 02:21:47.060
Got Dr. Bell-Metereau, then Mr. Maynard.

02:21:47.060 --> 02:21:50.590
<v ->Our younger daughter is
going to be having the first baby,</v>

02:21:50.590 --> 02:21:52.420
and we will become grandparents

02:21:52.420 --> 02:21:55.153
on November 6th, if she's due.

02:21:56.689 --> 02:21:59.745
(all clapping)

02:21:59.745 --> 02:22:02.520
<v ->I just want to, notify
you that my daughter</v>

02:22:02.520 --> 02:22:04.980
and my son-in-law, have
become your constituents

02:22:06.388 --> 02:22:08.761
in Grayson County and a new Ag teachers,

02:22:08.761 --> 02:22:11.943
at Gunner ISD, in Grayson County.

02:22:13.110 --> 02:22:16.133
<v ->We welcome them in
district nine, Dr. Young.</v>

02:22:18.300 --> 02:22:20.850
<v ->I Just wanted to bring
to everyone's attention,</v>

02:22:20.850 --> 02:22:23.840
that I would be remiss
if I didn't recognize,

02:22:23.840 --> 02:22:26.640
that September is Deaf Awareness Month,

02:22:26.640 --> 02:22:30.190
and that October is
National Dyslexia Month.

02:22:30.190 --> 02:22:33.580
So thank you very much
for all your hard work

02:22:33.580 --> 02:22:37.340
with dyslexia and I
would like to just shout out

02:22:37.340 --> 02:22:39.130
to my work wife, Kayla Hughes,

02:22:39.130 --> 02:22:40.570
the Director of Deaf Education

02:22:40.570 --> 02:22:43.840
at Nacogdoches ISD,
who covers my position

02:22:43.840 --> 02:22:46.760
during the week that
I'm gone at State Board.

02:22:46.760 --> 02:22:48.720
It's a huge responsibility,

02:22:48.720 --> 02:22:52.440
and she runs our Deaf Education program.

02:22:52.440 --> 02:22:55.090
We serve 23 other school districts

02:22:55.090 --> 02:22:57.750
in Nacogdoches in our Deaf Program.

02:22:57.750 --> 02:22:59.170
So just, thank you

02:22:59.170 --> 02:23:02.360
and be sure to thank
your Deaf Education folks

02:23:02.360 --> 02:23:04.010
in your school districts as well.

02:23:05.820 --> 02:23:07.030
<v ->All right, Members,
anybody else?</v>

02:23:07.030 --> 02:23:07.863
Mr. Hickman?

02:23:08.820 --> 02:23:10.500
<v ->I don't know where it came
from, but I would just like</v>

02:23:10.500 --> 02:23:12.084
to say, thank you for
the measuring stick.

02:23:12.084 --> 02:23:14.751
(all laughing)

02:23:15.920 --> 02:23:18.820
<v ->Shall I ask what units
of measurement on there?</v>

02:23:18.820 --> 02:23:20.015
<v Mr. Hickman>It's just,</v>

02:23:20.015 --> 02:23:22.665
we're going to come up
with our own Texas units.

02:23:22.665 --> 02:23:24.960
(all chuckling)

02:23:24.960 --> 02:23:25.793
<v ->All right and I'm going</v>

02:23:25.793 --> 02:23:27.990
to get in trouble for this,
but I'm going to be excited

02:23:27.990 --> 02:23:31.080
to celebrate my wife's 50th
birthday with her twin sister,

02:23:31.080 --> 02:23:34.400
who also happens to be 50 this weekend,

02:23:34.400 --> 02:23:35.850
and her birthday is tomorrow.

02:23:36.890 --> 02:23:37.723
Dr. Johnson.

02:23:38.960 --> 02:23:40.300
<v ->The measuring sticks were made</v>

02:23:40.300 --> 02:23:42.145
by Kayla Maxwell, a
former patient of mine

02:23:42.145 --> 02:23:44.560
whose husband is also the Superintendent

02:23:44.560 --> 02:23:49.200
of Ralls ISD and there you go,

02:23:49.200 --> 02:23:51.940
I actually have a couple
of measuring sticks left

02:23:51.940 --> 02:23:54.323
if you want to trade
or you need one more.

02:23:55.240 --> 02:23:56.903
I'm not sure what the units are.

02:23:58.200 --> 02:24:00.560
<v ->It's always the dentist
handing out sweets.</v>

02:24:00.560 --> 02:24:02.260
Have you, anyone else notice that?

02:24:03.863 --> 02:24:04.978
So yeah.

02:24:04.978 --> 02:24:06.610
(laughter)
All right,

02:24:06.610 --> 02:24:09.380
any other comments or
questions from members?

02:24:09.380 --> 02:24:12.470
I want to thank everyone here
for all the work they've done

02:24:12.470 --> 02:24:15.650
through this time and
I'm just proud of the work

02:24:15.650 --> 02:24:18.300
of this Board that they
do and coming together

02:24:18.300 --> 02:24:19.990
in the discussions and
the work that we do.

02:24:19.990 --> 02:24:21.430
So again, I want to thank everyone.

02:24:21.430 --> 02:24:26.430
And if we can also all make
sure that we thank Staff.

02:24:26.521 --> 02:24:29.890
(all clapping)

02:24:29.890 --> 02:24:32.080
As we know these meetings just happen,

02:24:32.080 --> 02:24:35.300
we sometimes think that they
just have us to worry about,

02:24:35.300 --> 02:24:38.220
there's been this little thing
called a second session,

02:24:38.220 --> 02:24:40.390
a special called
session of the legislature

02:24:40.390 --> 02:24:42.290
that they have been a
little bit busy with also.

02:24:42.290 --> 02:24:44.590
So I know it's a juggling
act for them also,

02:24:44.590 --> 02:24:48.320
so just make sure that we all
take time to thank them also.

02:24:48.320 --> 02:24:49.670
With that being said, meeting adjourned-

02:24:49.670 --> 02:24:50.900
<v ->Mr. Chair, thank you</v>

02:24:50.900 --> 02:24:55.088
for a very well-run meeting
and very smooth meeting.

02:24:55.088 --> 02:24:56.640
<v ->Thank you.</v>
<v ->It's been fantastic.</v>

02:24:56.640 --> 02:24:58.030
<v Dr. Ellis>Thank you.</v>

02:24:58.030 --> 02:25:00.933
We are adjourned.
(gavel bangs)