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Session was concluded at
12:12 PM on September 23rd,
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and the Commission
will now- 2:12.
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2:12?
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Yeah. You said 12:12.
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Sorry, one of those
days, appreciate it.
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12:12 on September 23rd, 2021.
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The Commission will now
resume it's public meeting.
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Woody, I apologize about having recess
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with one slide left
in your presentation.
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(meeting attendees laughing)
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But I'd already, already
dropped the hammer.
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No problem.
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Carry, carry on, sir.
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All right so the
last slide here
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talks about the consumer benefit test.
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So Senate Bill 1281,
amended per Section 37.056
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to require consideration
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of estimated congestion
cost savings for consumers.
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So that's a new requirement
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for economic-driven
transmission projects.
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So we have tools in-house
to be able to do that,
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do some sort of consumer benefit test.
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We have looked now at what we have,
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it's gonna take a
little bit of updating.
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We have to update some
of the data that we use
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to drive that kinda thing.
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And, so before we are
able to implement that test,
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we're gonna need a little bit
of guidance from you guys.
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So we've already started
the update process in general,
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and then we will wait
and before we complete it
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to get some policy guidance
on exactly what it will entail.
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So no decisions today?
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Oh, good.
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Thank you from
the peanut gallery.
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Yes we're, no decision needed today.
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Thank you for the update,
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any other questions or comments for?
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Yeah, I would just
say that the reason
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Woody included this in the
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slide deck is based on our
prior discussion on what to do
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with economics of the
new consumer benefits test,
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given the fact that,
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ERCOT needs some more
guidance, policy guidance from the
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Commission before they
finish off their models.
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I think probably the most
prudent course of action at this
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point is to continue down
the path of having staff,
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has it on their roadmap
for the beginning of the year,
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this next year to implement 1281.
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And so I think the probably
the more cleaner pragmatic
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approach would be to just
go ahead and open up the rule
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making process at the
beginning of the year or first
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quarter you know winter and around then,
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and these discussions will
happen and we can set a more
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definitive timeline then,
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and then that way we give
ERCOT the policy guidance
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they need to implement their
models and additional feedback
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we may need to be able to come to a
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policy decision at that time.
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And in the meantime,
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there are things that we
can do to get ready for that.
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So their data,
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we need to have
updated and certain fields
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we need filled out
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that will be true for any kind
of consumer benefit to us.
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So we'll go ahead and we've already,
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actually started that process, so.
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Like since then,
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we also have plenty to do between
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now and the end of the year.
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So, kicking that off in the beginning,
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like early first quarter
makes a lot of sense.
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All right.
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Thank you Woody.
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Thank you sir.
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Thanks Woody.
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Apologies again.
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And Kristi has a grid update for us.
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All right. Good afternoon,
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Kristi Hobbs vice-president
of Corporate Strategy
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and PUC Relations for ERCOT.
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So very fitting that as we
move into the first days of fall,
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that we're giving you
our last summer recap.
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Looking back to last week,
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hurricane Nicholas really did
impact the demand on the grid.
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As you can imagine,
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when it came ashore last
Monday, continued lingering in
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the Houston area,
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there were some transmission
outages and many distribution
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outages that were
experienced due to the storm.
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And of course,
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demand was lower due to
the rain in those coastal areas.
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Daily demands ranged
anywhere last week from
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55,000 to a high of 67,000
at the end of the week.
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Renewable performance,
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we saw wind at 8,500 megawatts
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for the peak demand time on Monday.
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But then that remained below
5,000 for the rest of the week.
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Solar was around 6,000
megawatts at peak demand
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pretty much the entire
week, except for Saturday,
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when it was a little bit lower.
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From a thermal generation
outage perspective,
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the range that we saw
throughout the week was in the
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7 to 9,000, megawatt range.
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I think maybe some units
taking advantage of the lower
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demand to get work done.
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Good
getting ready for winter.
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You know,
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would be a miss if we didn't
recognize that we did have
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transmission issues because
of the wind of the storm and,
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you know would give kudos to the,
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the TDSPs that reacted quickly,
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that the updates that I got
out of the control room earlier
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this week was that from our perspective,
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all the transmission
lines had been repaired
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and back in service.
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So far this week,
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Monday was definitely our
highest date as we were still
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experiencing summer
weather type conditions.
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We saw the peak demand
on Monday at 71,930.
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With the front moving through the area,
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that dropped to mid 60s on Tuesday.
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And yesterday, our peak
demand was only 48,000.
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So, definitely had an impact
on the usage on the system.
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So far this week, wind Monday was 8,800,
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Tuesday was up to almost
18,000 of wind on the system,
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but that then dropped
back down yesterday
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to just over 5,600.
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Solar started off the week,
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pretty normal at the
5,400 megawatt range,
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but then dropped to 2,600 on Tuesday.
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I guess likely with the front
moving through and the impact.
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Wednesday was back up though to 6,800.
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And again,
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we've seen thermal outages
beginning of this week,
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anywhere from the 7 to
11,000 megawatt range.
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So on solar,
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is our maximum production
that we've observed
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after the latest fields
have been energized.
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Is it around, I mean,
is it right at 7,000?
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Yes.
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that
we have seen produce?
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Yes.
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Okay Good to know
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How about installed
capacity available for...
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Is that installed capacity?
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or Is that actually production?
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I mean that's available.
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Actually, installed
capacity right now is
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just over 8,500.
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Yeah so, it's
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Total available
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Right. Yep.
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7,000. Good deal.
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Looking ahead the next
week or the next seven days,
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as expected these cooler temperatures
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are going to be impacting the demand.
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We do expect sufficient
generation, you know,
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barring any unforeseen outages
or changes to the forecast,
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that we should be able
to reliably serve the grid.
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We're looking at demand today
at just under 53,000 megawatts
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and continuing really
for the next seven days,
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in that mid 50,000 megawatt range
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of the renewable performance.
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Our forecasters showing
for wind anywhere in the
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4 to now 9,000 megawatt
range in the next seven days.
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And solar in 4 1/2 to just under 7,000,
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for performance expected.
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As I close out,
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again this is the last
periodic summer update.
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We will be back at your October
7th open meeting to give you
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a little bit more of a formal look back,
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not only on the grid conditions,
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but on the market
performance of the summer.
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And then Woody would also
be here to share information
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with you all as as you
mentioned chairman,
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as we move into the shoulder months,
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it's an important time for
generation units to be able to
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take the outages they
need to prepare for winter.
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And so he'll give you an
update kind of what we're seeing
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from a seasonal perspective on outages.
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Good deal.
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Thank you very much Kristi.
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All right.
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Appreciate you
all hanging with us.
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Thank you.
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All right.
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That will conclude item
20 and get us to item 21.
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I don't have anything on 21, do y'all?
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No.
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If not that'll bring
us to Item number 22.
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Mr Journeay could you
lay this out for us please?
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Item 22, is Docket 49351,
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It's a ratepayers appeal of the
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Bear Creek Special Utility
District to change of rates.
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The Commission adopted
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in part and modified in part a PFD
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at a previous open meeting.
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Before you is a draft order
memorializing that decision.
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So.
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Just heads up,
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I'm going to abstain
from taking a vote on this.
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As you all had made this decision prior,
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I'm going to let you all
continue down this road.
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That, I can say that
now for this docket as well
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as docket 50605.
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Thank you Jimmy.
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Okay.
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This seems pretty
straight forward.
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Good job memorializing
what we did previously.
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Is there motion
to issue the order.
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So moved.
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Second.
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All in favor say aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Motion passes.
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Next item is number 23, Mr. Journeay.
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Item 23 is the
application of Corix Utilities
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to change rate.
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Proposed order was
filed on September 3rd,
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no exceptions or corrections were found.
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I have a memo with proposed
changes to the proposed order.
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I also issued a memo
to request of an office,
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asking the parties to be
here to address issues.
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Sir, go ahead.
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Thank you, Stephen.
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And if representatives
from Corix could approach,
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I just had some questions.
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I appreciate you making
yourselves available just to dig
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into a couple components
of the application.
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As they get settled.
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I just wanted to mention
that I am recusing myself
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on this case,
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as I did participate in the
cast when I was at OPUC.
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Okay.
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Um. Sorry Mr. Chairman.
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Can you state your
names and who you are
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for the record please.
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Thank you. My name's Evan.
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(coughing)
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Excuse me. My name's Evan Johnson.
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I'm here on behalf of
Corix Utilities Texas.
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With me is Darrin Barker,
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he's the president of
Corix Utilities Texas.
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We also have our witness in this case,
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Dr Bruce Fairchild in the room,
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to the extent the questions
you have, exceed our expertise.
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Thank you so much,
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Mr. Johnson and Mr. Barker,
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and thank you for being present.
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My questions relate to
the computation of ADFIT,
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the Federal Income Tax computation.
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And, so, staff and I,
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as we were reading
through the application,
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were just trying to make the
numbers work out in our own
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mind and how that would
be processed over time.
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And, as per your filing, it
all is baked into Exhibit F.
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And if you could,
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could you walk me through
how those numbers work out and,
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where we're headed is the
way we read it is that this
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would be accounted for
over an 18 year period.
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Is that, is this, is that right?
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Approximately 18 years.
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18 And a half? Okay
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Okay. So.
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Why the 18 years
because that's a long time.
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Five years has been
what's used in other cases.
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Can you explain that sir?
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I think I can.
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And if my answer is not
deep enough in the weeds,
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then Dr. Fairchild can come in
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Sure.
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and help explain it as well.
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But what's at issue here is, you know,
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we've agreed on an excess
deferred federal income tax
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balance that we are going
to return to customers.
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Within that balance,
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there's essentially two
buckets of deferred tax assets
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that we are returning back over time.
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One of those buckets
are related to accelerated
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depreciation.
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The company has taken in
the past on certain ones of its
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physical assets.
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Okay.
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That's the one that is
really driving a lot of the timing
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of this.
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The second bucket is
essentially all the other deferred
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taxes that are going to
be returned to customers.
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In the first bucket,
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under the federal tax code
and a number of different IRS
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private letter rulings,
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the IRS essentially directs
us to normalize our refund of
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these taxes,
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these ones related to
accelerated appreciation,
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rateably over the service
life of the physical assets
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that the accelerated
depreciation was taken on.
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So what we did is we utilized the,
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the remaining life for those
assets as calculated by our
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expert depreciation witness Dane Watson.
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We utilized the reversed
South Georgia method,
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which requires us to use the
average remaining life of our
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entire plant.
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You can find that on
pages 11 and 12 of his
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rebuttal testimony,
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and you can also go through
his depreciation schedules and
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it lays it out there.
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If we don't return to customers
over that period of time,
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that's matched to
the life of the assets,
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the IRS considers that
a normalization violation.
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And if we trigger a
normalization violation,
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it's possible the IRS
could come in and say,
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you're no longer eligible to take
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accelerated depreciation going forward,
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which obviously would be a huge
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detriment to our
customers and ourselves.
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The other bucket
here, the second bucket,
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we adopted staff's
proposal of five years.
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You have the discretion to
require us to return that over
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any period of time you like,
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but we adopted staff's
approach, which is consistent with,
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with what this Commission
approved in the center point rate
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case, a five-year period.
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Okay. Yeah, yeah. That's right.
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Okay, and you have approved
settlements adopting this same
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approach in CenterPoint's
most recent rate case
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and AEPs I think.
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So which aligns
with the IRS rule that,
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that you're trying to conform to,
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which is over the life of the asset.
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Right, so if you think
about it, you know,
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what you're trying to do is
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return the tax benefits to
each generation of customers
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who's taking advantage
or using the assets,
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paying for the assets.
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So not just customers today
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get the tax benefit, customers
over the entire life of the
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asset get it.
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Okay. And then second
question as it relates to this,
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so why is this being done via
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the revenue requirement rather than the,
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just a direct refund to
customers as per the file.
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You know, I'm sorry to say,
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I can't recall exactly why
we structured it this way.
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Okay.
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I think it was just easier
to capture it that way,
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but what the idea here is
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we've reduced our revenue requirement
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by that amortization amount,
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and we will keep
tracking it on our books.
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So to the extent we have
subsequent rate cases,
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it will stay on our books
for that full 18 years until we
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have captured it through rates.
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Okay.
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I mean is there a problem,
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if you did direct refunds to customers,
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just for our tracking.
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We're trying to make
apples to apples here,
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as we sort of go through these cases.
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I have, from an operation side,
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and maybe you can respond to that.
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I think it's more of cumbersome,
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but if you want to speak to
what the process would be.
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This is Darrin Parker.
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Yes sir.
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Is the question
direct refunds over the
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remaining life of the asset?
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Yes sir.
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So that would involve
basically a separate
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line item on the bill tracking
that separately I guess.
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Okay.
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Administratively
it's harder to do with
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the billing system, to add
more line items on a bill.
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And sometimes I worry that
we get so many line items that
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the bill gets a little bit
confusing for our customers.
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Okay.
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It's doable.
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I'll say that it's doable.
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I just have to look at the
amounts and talk with our
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billing department and see
what it takes to code that in.
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Okay.
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And, you know we have a
lot of different service areas,
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rate regions, customer
classes, so I think the reason
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it's cumbersome is 'cause it has to
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be calculated for everyone.
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Yeah and since you're
doing this consolidated filing.
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Okay.
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Right.
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Those were my
questions. Thank you sir.
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Those were eerily
similar to mine.
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And if it's an IRS
requirement then that,
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Yeah.
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seems pretty straightforward.
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I just want to make
sure it's consistent,
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which it sounds like it is.
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Otherwise the settlement seems.
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Sounds like it's the
federal government
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here to help right?
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Yeah.
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As usual.
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Can't do it in five,
but 18 will work.
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In terms of in this
consolidated, you know,
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mechanism, is what
I'm, we're all trying to get
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our minds wrapped around.
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So I just want to make sure if
we proceed down certain roads
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that we try to stick with it,
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and yeah, I mean, I'm okay.
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So with that, I'll wake
up again, and uh,
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Is it... go ahead.
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Let me get to the right one.
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So I would move to approve.
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Approve the proposed
order, as amended.
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Second.
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Yes approved.
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Motion and a second,
all in favor say aye,
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Motion passes.
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Thank you gentlemen,
Thank you
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for being here.
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Brings us to item
24, Mr. Journeay.
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24 is docket 50605.
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It's the petition for an order
appointing the temporary
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manager to Blue Cereus.
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The Commission
previously entered an order
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that allowed Lynn Sherman,
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the temporary manager
to end his management.
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Before you is a motion for rehearing.
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Thank you, sir.
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Short version is,
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not a ratemaking preceding
and we do have another
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pending ratemaking preceding coming up
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related to this case
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where I think this should
probably be handled,
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could be handled more smoothly.
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I agree that, yep.
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I would deny the motion for regroup.
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Agreed.
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Alright, is there a
motion to deny the motion?
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So moved.
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Second,
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All in favor, say aye.
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Aye.
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Aye. Motion passes.
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25 was consented, that
brings us to item number 26.
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Mr. Journeay.
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Item 26 is docket 52125.
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It's the complainant of
Mary Haywood against
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New Progress Water Supply Corporation.
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A proposal for decision
was issued on July 22nd,
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that would deny the complaint.
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I have a memo with
proposed changes to the PFD.
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Thank you, sir.
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Seems straight forward, if
you want to follow through
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the complaint, you gotta
show up and you gotta be called
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to show that you qualified.
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To serve.
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Any other thoughts on that?
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Or is there a motion to adopt
the proposal as modified,
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proposal for decision as
modified by Commission council.
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So moved.
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Second.
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all in favor say aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Motion passes. We're
not taking up 27 today.
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I don't have anything
for item 28 through 33.
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Y'all?
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No sir.
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Nope.
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All right.
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Do we have exec on 34?
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We have staff here to
discuss water critical load
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requirements.
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Yes. So thank you
chairman, Commissioners,
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just a couple of updates, quickly.
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We talked last time about the
work of our mapping committee
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and I committed to you all that
we would find a way to make
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the work of that committee public.
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So what we've done is
we've opened project 52404,
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and that is the project that
we will warehouse all of the
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project team updates and all
of the meeting minutes from our
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monthly meetings that we're having.
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So that's where the public
and interested stakeholders can
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find the activities of that committee.
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Thank you. Transparency's
always important.
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Yes, sir.
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Secondly, we've started
our communications with
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our sunset review team.
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Very preliminary
discussions at this point,
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but we have been told they
will be on site in April of 2022
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to begin our intro conference.
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So just want to give
y'all an update that that's
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when that work will really start.
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Good deal.
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And then two updates from
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Senate bill three implementation.
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The first is we were working
with ERCOT on conducting a load
00:20:57.840 --> 00:20:58.760
shed exercise.
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So the bill requires that they
conduct a summer and winter
00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:04.240
load shed exercise and now
that we've entered the fall,
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it's time that we really
start get going on that.
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So I've talked to Kristi and
we're going to get working on
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that in the next week to get
something solidified so we can
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make sure that we get that done and
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meet that requirement
in Senate bill three.
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And the second is we, you know,
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most of the discussion around
Senate bill three has been
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around electricity.
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There's also components about water.
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One of them has a deadline,
we have a deadline of
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November 1st for water utilities that
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want to be deemed,
designated as critical loads.
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They have to submit certain
information to the Commission,
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to their electric utility and
their retail electric provider
00:21:36.750 --> 00:21:38.100
by November 1st.
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So I just wanted to put
everyone at notice that
00:21:39.830 --> 00:21:41.660
that's in there, remind everybody,
00:21:41.660 --> 00:21:43.660
and to ask the utilities
and the reps that
00:21:43.660 --> 00:21:45.940
if those water utilities
have any questions to,
00:21:45.940 --> 00:21:48.390
you know work with them
and help hammer that out.
00:21:50.190 --> 00:21:53.585
Good note and want
to make sure we alert,
00:21:53.585 --> 00:21:57.431
the water utilities
hear us loud and clear.
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Yes sir.
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that please get on top
of that before the deadline
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Yes sir.
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All right, any questions
or comments for Thomas?
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No sir.
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All right, appreciate it.
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That brings us to item 35.
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I don't have anything
for 35 or 36, do y'all?
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No.
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No sir.
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No.
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All right, having already
taken care of all our business
00:22:18.410 --> 00:22:21.420
in closed session we have
no further public business.
00:22:21.420 --> 00:22:24.540
So this meeting of the Public
Utilities Commission of Texas
00:22:24.540 --> 00:22:25.923
is hereby adjourn.
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(gavel hitting wood)