WEBVTT 00:00:04.230 --> 00:00:06.730 The feed from this streaming event 00:00:06.730 --> 00:00:07.936 brought to you by. 00:00:07.936 --> 00:00:09.220 California Public Utilities Commission 00:00:09.220 --> 00:00:11.460 public voting meeting on this day, Thursday, 00:00:11.460 --> 00:00:14.580 October 7th, 2021. 00:00:14.580 --> 00:00:17.190 Today's call is being recorded if you have any objections, 00:00:17.190 --> 00:00:19.210 you may disconnect at this time. 00:00:19.210 --> 00:00:21.660 President Batjer you may proceed. 00:00:21.660 --> 00:00:23.490 Thank you operator. 00:00:23.490 --> 00:00:24.470 Good morning. 00:00:24.470 --> 00:00:26.730 We need to establish a quorum of the agenda 00:00:26.730 --> 00:00:28.080 clerk Please call the roll. 00:00:29.290 --> 00:00:30.340 Commissioner Houck. 00:00:31.730 --> 00:00:32.563 Here. 00:00:33.590 --> 00:00:34.740 Commissioner Shiroma. 00:00:35.710 --> 00:00:36.543 Present. 00:00:37.490 --> 00:00:39.413 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 00:00:39.413 --> 00:00:41.104 I'm here. 00:00:41.104 --> 00:00:43.065 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 00:00:43.065 --> 00:00:44.612 Here. 00:00:44.612 --> 00:00:46.020 President Batjer. 00:00:46.020 --> 00:00:49.450 Here, we have established a quorum, thank you all. 00:00:49.450 --> 00:00:51.233 Welcome everyone to the public. 00:00:52.500 --> 00:00:53.333 Excuse me. 00:00:53.333 --> 00:00:56.280 Welcome to the California Public Utilities Commission. 00:00:56.280 --> 00:01:01.280 I'm calling this meeting of October 7th, 2021 public agenda 00:01:01.690 --> 00:01:04.623 item 34, 94, to order. 00:01:05.916 --> 00:01:07.590 Due to the corona virus pandemic 00:01:07.590 --> 00:01:10.420 and the shelter in place order we are conducting today 00:01:10.420 --> 00:01:14.610 business meeting online and by remote participation 00:01:14.610 --> 00:01:18.410 meeting is livestream on the CPUC website. 00:01:18.410 --> 00:01:23.410 You can view the meeting at www.adminmonitor.com/CA/CPUC. 00:01:28.505 --> 00:01:31.660 Adminmonitor is all one word. 00:01:31.660 --> 00:01:35.480 Closed Captioning is available in English and Spanish 00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:36.850 through the webcast. 00:01:36.850 --> 00:01:38.640 You can click on the green button 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:42.190 to select your language of choice. 00:01:42.190 --> 00:01:44.590 We also have Spanish interpretation available 00:01:44.590 --> 00:01:47.730 during the public comment portion of today's meeting. 00:01:47.730 --> 00:01:51.447 Dial (800) 857-1917 passcode 3799627 pound 00:01:58.880 --> 00:02:00.610 and follow the instructions to be 00:02:00.610 --> 00:02:02.493 connected to the Spanish line. 00:02:03.810 --> 00:02:07.353 I ask that my colleagues and today's speakers remain 00:02:07.353 --> 00:02:11.020 mindful and speak slowly and clearly. 00:02:11.020 --> 00:02:16.020 I will also occasionally pause myself for interpretation. 00:02:16.134 --> 00:02:20.033 Suarez Sanchez will now repeat that paragraph in Spanish. 00:02:22.496 --> 00:02:26.413 (speaking on foreign language) 00:03:35.780 --> 00:03:36.850 Thank you. 00:03:36.850 --> 00:03:40.750 Public engagement is critical to the CPUC process. 00:03:40.750 --> 00:03:42.730 If you wish to make a public comment, 00:03:42.730 --> 00:03:47.730 dial into (800) 857-1917 and enter passcode 9899501 pound 00:03:55.610 --> 00:03:57.730 and press star one, 00:03:57.730 --> 00:04:01.750 you will be placed into a queue and the operator will 00:04:01.750 --> 00:04:05.320 take your name and information if appropriate, 00:04:05.320 --> 00:04:07.300 you will be called upon to speak. 00:04:07.300 --> 00:04:11.530 When we get to the public comment period in today's agenda, 00:04:11.530 --> 00:04:14.180 if you encountered difficulty calling into the public 00:04:14.180 --> 00:04:18.273 telephone line, please email votingmeetinghelp, 00:04:19.840 --> 00:04:24.840 votingmeetinghelp is all one word @cpuc.ca.gov. 00:04:27.750 --> 00:04:32.240 We will now turn to the public comment period in our agenda. 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:35.680 If you wish to make a public comment and you have already 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:38.410 dialed into the public comment, telephone line, 00:04:38.410 --> 00:04:42.840 please press star one and unmute your phone 00:04:42.840 --> 00:04:45.043 to enter the public comment queue. 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:51.040 CPUC rules do not allow for parties in proceedings to speak 00:04:51.500 --> 00:04:53.810 about open proceedings. 00:04:53.810 --> 00:04:55.110 The public can make comments, 00:04:55.110 --> 00:04:59.290 addressing items on the consent and regular agenda 00:04:59.290 --> 00:05:02.323 as well as items not on today's agenda. 00:05:03.190 --> 00:05:04.620 Please note, 00:05:04.620 --> 00:05:08.550 there will not be public comments on item 1224 00:05:10.400 --> 00:05:13.573 and all items on the closed session agenda. 00:05:15.100 --> 00:05:19.370 You will have one minute, let me repeat that, 00:05:19.370 --> 00:05:23.150 you will have one minute to speak today. 00:05:23.150 --> 00:05:27.450 You will hear a bell sound when your time is up, 00:05:27.450 --> 00:05:29.853 there will be a bell please listen for that. 00:05:30.760 --> 00:05:34.880 And please, please be mindful of other speakers in the queue 00:05:34.880 --> 00:05:36.960 and keep to your allotted time. 00:05:36.960 --> 00:05:40.640 We wanna hear everyone and we want to give everybody 00:05:40.640 --> 00:05:43.270 the opportunity to speak today. 00:05:43.270 --> 00:05:45.683 So please be mindful of the allotted time. 00:05:46.543 --> 00:05:48.830 As a reminder, also, 00:05:48.830 --> 00:05:52.300 please speak clearly and slowly to accommodate 00:05:52.300 --> 00:05:55.160 the Spanish interpreters who are available 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:57.810 during the public comment portion of today's meeting. 00:05:59.149 --> 00:06:02.320 With that guidance in mind I welcome today's speakers, 00:06:02.320 --> 00:06:06.940 I will now turn to the operator to open the public comment, 00:06:06.940 --> 00:06:09.007 telephone line thank you. 00:06:12.330 --> 00:06:13.163 Operator. 00:06:13.163 --> 00:06:14.396 Thank you. 00:06:14.396 --> 00:06:17.090 so our public comment, telephone line is now open. 00:06:17.090 --> 00:06:19.770 If you wish to speak during the public comment period, 00:06:19.770 --> 00:06:22.020 please press star one unmute your phone 00:06:22.020 --> 00:06:26.200 and clearly record your name and organization when prompted. 00:06:26.200 --> 00:06:30.510 Our first caller is Sudi Skull you may go ahead. 00:06:30.510 --> 00:06:31.500 Good morning. 00:06:31.500 --> 00:06:35.170 The copper landline is a lifeline and a medical emergency 00:06:35.170 --> 00:06:39.210 and incoherent landline 911 can be placed 00:06:39.210 --> 00:06:40.770 and then an ambulance will 00:06:40.770 --> 00:06:43.250 be automatically sent to the caller's address. 00:06:43.250 --> 00:06:45.680 A cell phone does not perform this function. 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:50.050 In 2016 AT&T tried to unsuccessfully dismantle the landline 00:06:50.050 --> 00:06:51.910 through a bill and state Congress. 00:06:51.910 --> 00:06:54.590 Now by pawning the landline onto frontier, 00:06:54.590 --> 00:06:59.590 which just emerge from Chapter 11 bankruptcy in April, 2021, 00:07:00.030 --> 00:07:03.610 AT&T is attempting again to dismantle the copper landline. 00:07:03.610 --> 00:07:07.080 Frontier is a mismanaged company that has not been able to 00:07:07.080 --> 00:07:10.630 sustain profitability since they took over rural districts 00:07:10.630 --> 00:07:12.960 in 2016 from Verizon, 00:07:12.960 --> 00:07:16.330 they infuriate their customers routinely by exasperated 00:07:16.330 --> 00:07:18.180 friend in Santa Cruz county has filed 00:07:19.237 --> 00:07:20.520 four complaints for the FCC. 00:07:20.520 --> 00:07:22.420 Their record of maintenance is poor. 00:07:22.420 --> 00:07:25.270 Obviously Frontiers personnel do not have the years of 00:07:25.270 --> 00:07:26.930 quality training and know-how 00:07:26.930 --> 00:07:30.470 they come with AT&T is ability to provide reliable, 00:07:30.470 --> 00:07:33.310 consistent copper landlines here in California, 00:07:33.310 --> 00:07:34.920 which we desperately need. 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:37.773 Vote no on AT&T application thank you. 00:07:39.860 --> 00:07:42.563 Thank you, operator the next caller, please. 00:07:44.110 --> 00:07:46.350 Our next caller is Rob Holly. 00:07:46.350 --> 00:07:47.183 You may go ahead. 00:07:47.183 --> 00:07:50.700 Hi, I'm Rob Holly from the solar rights Alliance. 00:07:50.700 --> 00:07:52.010 I wanna remind the Commission 00:07:52.010 --> 00:07:54.830 that the ACC model was prepared by E3 00:07:54.830 --> 00:07:57.250 a long time partner of the utilities. 00:07:57.250 --> 00:08:01.280 The alternative is the non-biased fiber clean energy model. 00:08:01.280 --> 00:08:05.280 The Fiber model looks out to 2050 using 10 times more data 00:08:05.280 --> 00:08:07.890 to look at every possible way to make the energy system 00:08:07.890 --> 00:08:09.320 more cost effective. 00:08:09.320 --> 00:08:12.430 It shows that the path to cleaner green power 00:08:12.430 --> 00:08:14.410 requires rooftop solar. 00:08:14.410 --> 00:08:17.690 This over require fewer long distance power lines. 00:08:17.690 --> 00:08:20.480 The report confirms a trend we've been witnessing over the 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:21.780 past several years. 00:08:21.780 --> 00:08:23.510 In 2018 alone, 00:08:23.510 --> 00:08:27.230 the state energy officials scale back $2.6 billion 00:08:27.230 --> 00:08:29.430 worth of power line projects. 00:08:29.430 --> 00:08:33.040 The ACC only looks out to 2030 relies on outdated 00:08:33.040 --> 00:08:36.900 assumptions and an unrealistic build-out of utility solar. 00:08:36.900 --> 00:08:40.320 Why is the Commission basing his decisions on a bias model 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:42.410 that lacks either the time span 00:08:42.410 --> 00:08:45.098 or accuracy to predict what will happen? 00:08:45.098 --> 00:08:45.931 Thank you. 00:08:47.130 --> 00:08:50.253 Thank you, operator the next caller, please. 00:08:55.758 --> 00:08:58.580 Our next caller is Brockie Payne 00:08:58.580 --> 00:08:59.430 you may go ahead. 00:09:00.746 --> 00:09:02.630 Hi, my name is Brockie Payne. 00:09:02.630 --> 00:09:05.810 I'm here to speak on behalf of the Mermaid California 00:09:05.810 --> 00:09:07.970 and a letter to be delivered to the Commission today, 00:09:07.970 --> 00:09:12.070 188 advocacy organizations are imploring the Commission to 00:09:12.070 --> 00:09:14.970 protect and strengthen the state's tent metering program. 00:09:14.970 --> 00:09:18.420 These organizations and leaders are part of over 400 00:09:18.420 --> 00:09:20.650 working together to save rooftop solar. 00:09:20.650 --> 00:09:22.810 The letter states that the framework of net-metering should 00:09:22.810 --> 00:09:25.830 be maintained and improved to meet the following goals. 00:09:25.830 --> 00:09:28.960 One, keep rooftop solar growing to fight climate change 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:31.290 and build a safer, more resilient grid, 00:09:31.290 --> 00:09:33.610 two prioritize equity, bring rooftop, solar, 00:09:33.610 --> 00:09:36.620 and storage to more low income families and communities 00:09:36.620 --> 00:09:38.930 and three it makes the large charge batteries standard 00:09:38.930 --> 00:09:41.531 with rooftop solar by 2030. 00:09:41.531 --> 00:09:44.010 That it keeps solar in the hands of everyday Californians, 00:09:44.010 --> 00:09:46.210 we need to maintain a strong net metering program. 00:09:46.210 --> 00:09:47.043 Thank you. 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:51.903 Thank you, operator the next caller please. 00:09:59.800 --> 00:10:01.473 Operator next caller, please. 00:10:04.060 --> 00:10:06.300 Our next caller is Esther. 00:10:06.300 --> 00:10:07.957 You may go ahead. 00:10:07.957 --> 00:10:09.987 Hi my name is Esther Anciso 00:10:09.987 --> 00:10:12.170 and I live in long beach, California. 00:10:12.170 --> 00:10:14.060 Please don't buy the utility line 00:10:14.060 --> 00:10:16.920 that rooftop solar is costing other people money. 00:10:16.920 --> 00:10:18.840 Rooftop solar is reducing the cost 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:20.430 of long distance power lines, 00:10:20.430 --> 00:10:22.540 which are the actual reason for high rates, 00:10:22.540 --> 00:10:24.640 blackouts and wildfires. 00:10:24.640 --> 00:10:26.890 Rooftop solar and battery storage projects 00:10:26.890 --> 00:10:30.750 are one of the best shovel-ready jobs creators out there. 00:10:30.750 --> 00:10:34.240 Rooftop solar offers lots of local jobs in every community 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:36.200 that cannot be outsourced. 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:37.033 Additionally, 00:10:37.033 --> 00:10:39.470 California will not meet its climate change goals. 00:10:39.470 --> 00:10:42.150 If we back off from rooftop solar, 00:10:42.150 --> 00:10:46.537 they're the limit to how much large scale solar and wind 00:10:46.537 --> 00:10:47.950 that they can build affordably 00:10:47.950 --> 00:10:51.270 and without encroaching on protected natural areas 00:10:51.270 --> 00:10:53.360 without a lot more rooftop solar, 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:56.310 the financial and environmental costs of clean energy 00:10:56.310 --> 00:10:59.093 will prohibitively hike, Thank you for your time. 00:11:01.280 --> 00:11:04.403 Thank you, operator next caller, please. 00:11:05.338 --> 00:11:08.100 Our next caller is David McCord, 00:11:08.100 --> 00:11:09.489 you may go ahead. 00:11:09.489 --> 00:11:11.443 Hi this was a David McCord 00:11:11.443 --> 00:11:14.310 and I'm a rate payer in El Sorito. 00:11:14.310 --> 00:11:18.460 I ask the CPUC to strengthen net energy metering 00:11:18.460 --> 00:11:19.820 for rooftop solar, 00:11:19.820 --> 00:11:23.560 and storage to encourage equitable installation 00:11:23.560 --> 00:11:25.640 on homes and businesses. 00:11:25.640 --> 00:11:27.950 As a key state agency, 00:11:27.950 --> 00:11:31.050 the PUC is charged with helping the state 00:11:31.050 --> 00:11:33.460 to achieve its climate goals. 00:11:33.460 --> 00:11:36.180 This means expanding renewable energy, 00:11:36.180 --> 00:11:40.790 including solar and storage, rooftop solar and storage 00:11:40.790 --> 00:11:43.990 enhances resiliency on the distribution 00:11:43.990 --> 00:11:47.590 grid as well as for individual customers. 00:11:47.590 --> 00:11:52.590 It also reduces the cost of long distance transmission, 00:11:52.970 --> 00:11:57.410 reducing the electricity the rates that we pay. 00:11:57.410 --> 00:12:00.380 The big utilities self-serving proposals 00:12:00.380 --> 00:12:04.290 for an ethereum metering would do the opposite. 00:12:04.290 --> 00:12:07.760 The PUC's role is to serve the public Good, 00:12:07.760 --> 00:12:11.140 not to help the utility is to maximize the profits for 00:12:11.140 --> 00:12:12.823 shareholders, thanks. 00:12:15.290 --> 00:12:19.188 Thank you, Mr. McCord operator, the next caller, please. 00:12:19.188 --> 00:12:21.700 Our next caller is Alan Marlene 00:12:21.700 --> 00:12:22.550 you may go ahead. 00:12:24.235 --> 00:12:25.935 Hello can you hear me? 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:29.363 Yes, we can please go ahead. 00:12:30.230 --> 00:12:31.143 Thank you. 00:12:32.270 --> 00:12:35.860 I'm Alan Marlene California residents. 00:12:35.860 --> 00:12:38.160 Last few weeks ago, I was driving home, 00:12:38.160 --> 00:12:42.330 saw a lightning storm and I was terrified not only because I 00:12:42.330 --> 00:12:44.430 was unexpected, there was no rain or anything, 00:12:44.430 --> 00:12:46.210 but also because I was worried it 00:12:46.210 --> 00:12:48.270 would start another wildfire. 00:12:48.270 --> 00:12:49.540 We were lucky that night, 00:12:49.540 --> 00:12:51.930 but I don't expect us to be lucky in the future 00:12:51.930 --> 00:12:55.720 and a more clean energy through rooftop solar will make 00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:57.610 climate change not so bad 00:12:57.610 --> 00:13:01.320 and we'll make future fire seasons, not so terrifying 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:03.760 and so I urge the CPUC to keep rooftop solar 00:13:03.760 --> 00:13:05.510 and battery storage growing 00:13:05.510 --> 00:13:08.520 when stuck in my house and get the wildfire, 00:13:08.520 --> 00:13:12.590 smoke local clean energy micro grids are the most 00:13:12.590 --> 00:13:17.590 effective way to do this and such as through rooftop solar, 00:13:18.030 --> 00:13:20.887 and it's important that you do not by the utility lie that 00:13:20.887 --> 00:13:24.140 we've taught solar is costing other people money. 00:13:24.140 --> 00:13:25.310 They're breeding criminals 00:13:25.310 --> 00:13:29.630 and don't trust anything they say, thank you. 00:13:29.630 --> 00:13:32.253 Thank you, operator next caller, please. 00:13:33.526 --> 00:13:36.690 Our next caller is Mike Policek. 00:13:36.690 --> 00:13:37.540 You may go ahead. 00:13:38.845 --> 00:13:41.290 Hi, I'm a resident of San Mateo county, 00:13:41.290 --> 00:13:43.720 about a half hour drive from Google, Tesla, 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:44.870 Silicon valley in general, 00:13:44.870 --> 00:13:47.653 but it lost power five times in the last six weeks. 00:13:49.122 --> 00:13:50.101 It's every few days, 00:13:50.101 --> 00:13:53.210 these outages are typically lasting 24 to 48 hours. 00:13:53.210 --> 00:13:56.140 PG&E's liability is normally not great in my area. 00:13:56.140 --> 00:13:57.980 It's not uncommon for us to lose electricity 00:13:57.980 --> 00:13:58.980 a few times a year, 00:13:58.980 --> 00:14:01.520 but in the last few years and months it's gotten much worse 00:14:01.520 --> 00:14:03.853 and this is happening at the worst time. 00:14:03.853 --> 00:14:07.010 When many of us are working or going to school from home, 00:14:07.010 --> 00:14:10.180 I understand this is a response to fire danger and PG&E 00:14:10.180 --> 00:14:11.940 setting breakers incorrectly 00:14:11.940 --> 00:14:12.773 and that these settings 00:14:12.773 --> 00:14:14.250 are in the process of being adjusted, 00:14:14.250 --> 00:14:16.840 but it's not acceptable to simply say 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:20.770 that we can either be safe or get reliable electricity. 00:14:20.770 --> 00:14:22.800 I've heard PG&E is working on improvements, 00:14:22.800 --> 00:14:25.940 but you at the CPUC must review how it is 00:14:25.940 --> 00:14:28.330 that you let things get this bad. 00:14:28.330 --> 00:14:30.610 Moving forward I urge you to demand detailed 00:14:30.610 --> 00:14:32.900 urgent goals with metrics from PG&E 00:14:32.900 --> 00:14:35.060 this is how normal businesses work. 00:14:35.060 --> 00:14:37.110 You must demand actions with names and dates 00:14:37.110 --> 00:14:39.030 that lead to the achievement of these goals 00:14:39.030 --> 00:14:41.310 and you must share all of this with the public 00:14:41.310 --> 00:14:45.380 so we can hold PG&E and the CPUC accountable, thank you. 00:14:47.413 --> 00:14:49.963 Thank you, operator the next caller, please. 00:14:51.256 --> 00:14:54.720 Our next caller is Dr. Sandra Miller Ross 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:56.800 with health and habitat, Inc. 00:14:56.800 --> 00:14:57.650 You may go ahead. 00:14:58.490 --> 00:15:02.900 I am a disabled hearing impaired senior citizen 00:15:02.900 --> 00:15:05.090 and have not received notice 00:15:05.090 --> 00:15:08.650 that AT&T is dropping landlines. 00:15:08.650 --> 00:15:13.650 I have six and request CPUC reject AT&T's 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:16.810 application and guaranteed 00:15:16.810 --> 00:15:18.833 present service will not diminish. 00:15:19.790 --> 00:15:24.430 VOIP and wireless are not reliable 00:15:24.430 --> 00:15:29.430 911 or emergency notifications very necessary 00:15:30.430 --> 00:15:34.040 in the fire prone area while are I live. 00:15:34.040 --> 00:15:37.970 My disabling electromagnetic sensitivity 00:15:37.970 --> 00:15:41.150 prevents me from using cell phones. 00:15:41.150 --> 00:15:43.600 I request CPUC, 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:48.260 make arrangements for people with disabilities to continue 00:15:48.260 --> 00:15:53.260 to have copper landlines and hold remote public 00:15:53.590 --> 00:15:58.590 participation hearings after clearly notifying all 00:16:00.005 --> 00:16:03.710 customers in California, thank you. 00:16:06.508 --> 00:16:10.038 Thank you, operator next caller, please. 00:16:10.038 --> 00:16:12.950 Our next caller is David Rusha, 00:16:12.950 --> 00:16:13.800 you may go ahead. 00:16:14.940 --> 00:16:17.040 Hello my name is David Rusha. 00:16:17.040 --> 00:16:19.101 The continued growth of distributed energy 00:16:19.101 --> 00:16:21.020 resources like rooftop, 00:16:21.020 --> 00:16:24.810 solar and community micro-grids is a vital importance in 00:16:24.810 --> 00:16:29.470 advancing all of the goals that California energy Commission 00:16:29.470 --> 00:16:31.920 has established for our state goals 00:16:31.920 --> 00:16:35.050 that utilities alone cannot achieve. 00:16:35.050 --> 00:16:38.630 The proposal submitted by to the PUC by investor owned 00:16:38.630 --> 00:16:41.950 utilities are shortsighted and self-serving 00:16:41.950 --> 00:16:45.210 and will cripple the growth of DER's in our state. 00:16:45.210 --> 00:16:48.650 I urge you carefully to carefully review the detailed study 00:16:48.650 --> 00:16:51.040 conducted by vibrant clean energy, 00:16:51.040 --> 00:16:53.860 that presents a comprehensive analysis of the ways that 00:16:53.860 --> 00:16:56.395 DER's bring long-term benefits to a broad, 00:16:56.395 --> 00:17:00.370 diverse sector of the state's population. 00:17:00.370 --> 00:17:03.560 Concluding also that DERS will 00:17:03.560 --> 00:17:06.800 in the long run save money for all rate payers, 00:17:06.800 --> 00:17:11.060 I and thousands of Californians invested in PV systems for 00:17:11.060 --> 00:17:15.160 the sake of our planet's future not for our pocketbooks. 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:18.880 Let DERS continue to be a part of the solution 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:23.097 to global warming, not part of the problem thank you. 00:17:25.270 --> 00:17:28.769 Thank you, operator next caller, please. 00:17:28.769 --> 00:17:32.979 Our next caller is Nina Beede you may go ahead. 00:17:32.979 --> 00:17:35.530 I'm Nina Beede party state 00:17:35.530 --> 00:17:38.120 that there's confusion about who AT&T 00:17:38.120 --> 00:17:42.530 is application to anyone 0507 effects there's no confusion 00:17:42.530 --> 00:17:46.010 AT&T has worked to eliminate copper line landline service 00:17:46.010 --> 00:17:47.620 for years through legislation 00:17:47.620 --> 00:17:50.020 and regulatory action and move customers 00:17:50.020 --> 00:17:52.690 to grossly inadequate hazardous phone service 00:17:52.690 --> 00:17:54.397 and to a phone company that's in quote, 00:17:54.397 --> 00:17:56.301 "Chronic failure status" 00:17:56.301 --> 00:17:59.320 AT&T wants to take away service to one group of us now 00:17:59.320 --> 00:18:01.980 and another group soon when people call AT&T 00:18:01.980 --> 00:18:03.580 for new service, 00:18:03.580 --> 00:18:06.440 AT&T says it doesn't provide copper line landline service, 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:07.690 excuse me anymore. 00:18:07.690 --> 00:18:11.120 I'm disabled by electromagnetic sensitivity as are thousands 00:18:11.120 --> 00:18:12.890 and thousands of people in the state. 00:18:12.890 --> 00:18:15.980 I can only use copper line landline service in my home. 00:18:15.980 --> 00:18:17.220 I got no notice, 00:18:17.220 --> 00:18:19.840 hold PPH hearings as parties request so that 00:18:19.840 --> 00:18:22.400 our testimony and critical issues can be in the record 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.220 and why taking away these landlines is discriminatory 00:18:25.220 --> 00:18:26.650 and can kill people, 00:18:26.650 --> 00:18:29.600 recap fees so that everyone can afford this essential 00:18:29.600 --> 00:18:32.490 and most resilient, dependable, and safe service 00:18:32.490 --> 00:18:35.280 make copper line the highest infrastructure priority 00:18:35.280 --> 00:18:37.730 along with the electric grid and stop AT&T 00:18:37.730 --> 00:18:40.340 dangerous overloading of utility poles, 00:18:40.340 --> 00:18:43.660 PG&E's mitigation plans on another topic are bunk 00:18:43.660 --> 00:18:46.710 in my city PG&E refuses to eliminate dead tree 00:18:46.710 --> 00:18:48.880 branches next to power lines and fuses 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:51.410 and does dangerous earth work around poles. 00:18:51.410 --> 00:18:53.620 While the Commission allows electric and gas meters 00:18:53.620 --> 00:18:55.830 that are known fire and electrical hazards 00:18:55.830 --> 00:18:57.870 on every building they're on grounded, 00:18:57.870 --> 00:18:59.390 they have inadequate surge protection 00:18:59.390 --> 00:19:01.880 and they contain explosive lithium battery 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:03.263 protect public now. 00:19:07.570 --> 00:19:09.750 Thank you for your comments 00:19:09.750 --> 00:19:12.383 operator the next speaker, please. 00:19:14.270 --> 00:19:16.940 The next caller is Marilyn Garrett. 00:19:16.940 --> 00:19:17.790 You may go ahead. 00:19:19.750 --> 00:19:23.750 I agree with all the previous speakers 00:19:23.750 --> 00:19:27.460 keep safe and reliable copper landmines 00:19:27.460 --> 00:19:32.460 reject AT&T's plans to end residential land lines service. 00:19:34.310 --> 00:19:37.560 Many of us have only landlines 00:19:37.560 --> 00:19:40.760 which works during electric power outages. 00:19:40.760 --> 00:19:45.760 I do not have a computer nor microwave radiation emitting 00:19:46.930 --> 00:19:51.280 cell phone due to the negative impacts on my health. 00:19:51.280 --> 00:19:56.250 If you were truly prioritizing public health and safety, 00:19:56.250 --> 00:20:01.220 your policies would require AT&T's maintenance and 00:20:01.220 --> 00:20:05.260 expansion of the reliable copper landlines 00:20:05.260 --> 00:20:09.320 and removal of the dangerous fire prone, 00:20:09.320 --> 00:20:13.040 wireless and health damaging microwave, 00:20:13.040 --> 00:20:17.597 emitting cell phones, cell tower, and WiFi technology. 00:20:18.940 --> 00:20:23.157 I call on you to prohibit corporations like AT&T from 00:20:24.578 --> 00:20:28.110 discriminating against and endangering 00:20:28.110 --> 00:20:30.890 and ostracizing anyone. 00:20:30.890 --> 00:20:35.820 Our lives depend on reliable copper landline service 00:20:35.820 --> 00:20:40.820 immediately deny AT&T's application to terminate 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:45.160 copper landlines, residential service, thank you. 00:20:46.414 --> 00:20:49.183 Thank you operator the next caller please. 00:20:50.179 --> 00:20:53.520 Our next caller is Margaret Jensen, 00:20:53.520 --> 00:20:54.370 You may go ahead. 00:20:55.829 --> 00:20:57.910 My name is Margaret Jensen 00:20:57.910 --> 00:21:00.400 and I live in Los Angeles. 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:05.400 I'm requesting that the CPUC protect and expand 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:09.260 rooftop solar and battery storage. 00:21:09.260 --> 00:21:12.980 My solar panels were installed nine years ago. 00:21:12.980 --> 00:21:17.980 They have generated 5,026 kilowatt hours so far this 00:21:19.530 --> 00:21:24.530 year and over 47,000 kilowatt hours since installation. 00:21:27.020 --> 00:21:30.180 In many years, months, weeks, and days, 00:21:30.180 --> 00:21:35.180 my system has put free electricity back into the grid 00:21:35.390 --> 00:21:37.210 for public use. 00:21:37.210 --> 00:21:41.520 I am happy to share my extra electricity. 00:21:41.520 --> 00:21:44.830 These panels have created local jobs, 00:21:44.830 --> 00:21:48.810 both in manufacturing and installation. 00:21:48.810 --> 00:21:53.520 I have not needed extensive grids to share my power. 00:21:53.520 --> 00:21:57.520 My panels have not caused any wildfires 00:21:57.520 --> 00:22:00.300 nor killed any wildlife. 00:22:00.300 --> 00:22:03.600 They did not cause any power outages 00:22:03.600 --> 00:22:06.050 or extensive maintenance. 00:22:06.050 --> 00:22:09.310 The only maintenance needed on my panels 00:22:09.310 --> 00:22:12.110 is annual washing. 00:22:12.110 --> 00:22:16.993 As a citizen I must now thank you. 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:21.973 Thank you, operator the next caller, please. 00:22:22.882 --> 00:22:26.583 Our next caller is Paul Arms you may go ahead. 00:22:28.360 --> 00:22:30.680 Hello Commissioners, happy Thursday. 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:33.160 My name is Paul Arms and the here is my minute. 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:34.470 I live in Huntington beach, 00:22:34.470 --> 00:22:36.800 California down here in Orange county, 00:22:36.800 --> 00:22:40.460 right where the long beach underwater oil pipeline first. 00:22:40.460 --> 00:22:41.910 I'm speaking as a resident, 00:22:41.910 --> 00:22:45.530 but as a former president of the Bolsa Chica land trust 00:22:45.530 --> 00:22:46.950 Bolsa Chica one of California's 00:22:46.950 --> 00:22:48.810 largest coastal wetlands 00:22:48.810 --> 00:22:51.490 and asking the Commissioners to come see the wildlife 00:22:51.490 --> 00:22:52.870 and the devastation, 00:22:52.870 --> 00:22:57.030 and then visit the burn forest of our magnificent state. 00:22:57.030 --> 00:23:01.410 It's time for a change obviously and my ask 00:23:01.410 --> 00:23:04.250 I want my country, my state, 00:23:04.250 --> 00:23:07.130 and my community to lead with renewable energy. 00:23:07.130 --> 00:23:10.260 I don't want to see burn forest or oil spills in Wetlands. 00:23:10.260 --> 00:23:14.600 Let's keep rooftop, solar, and that industry in California, 00:23:14.600 --> 00:23:17.970 let's see it made in USA and listen not add fees 00:23:17.970 --> 00:23:19.323 to make it more difficult. 00:23:20.230 --> 00:23:21.910 Remember in California, 00:23:21.910 --> 00:23:25.810 we put a little helicopter on Mars to JPL. 00:23:25.810 --> 00:23:28.750 It flies around on Mars using solar. 00:23:28.750 --> 00:23:31.410 We can keep, and we can put solar on groups easily. 00:23:31.410 --> 00:23:34.360 It's not rocket science that go around the sun 00:23:34.360 --> 00:23:36.480 365 days a year. 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:39.760 Let's look up in the sky for our future and our life and not 00:23:39.760 --> 00:23:41.760 down in the ground for our past. 00:23:41.760 --> 00:23:45.410 I'm signing off thank you have a super day. 00:23:45.410 --> 00:23:49.980 Nope, these please and remember one thing. 00:23:49.980 --> 00:23:52.860 If smokey, the bear could testify right? 00:23:52.860 --> 00:23:55.400 Only you can prevent, What would you say? 00:23:55.400 --> 00:23:57.130 Thank you for your time I appreciate it 00:23:57.130 --> 00:23:58.093 Have a super day. 00:23:59.830 --> 00:24:00.663 Thank you. 00:24:01.780 --> 00:24:03.964 Operator the next caller, please. 00:24:03.964 --> 00:24:06.960 Our next caller is Erica Adelson 00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:08.450 you may go ahead. 00:24:08.450 --> 00:24:10.210 Hi my name is Erica Adelson 00:24:10.210 --> 00:24:12.030 I live in Ukiah and I'm a member 00:24:12.030 --> 00:24:13.840 of the Redwood valley Grange. 00:24:13.840 --> 00:24:17.710 The Grange is an agrarian based national community service 00:24:17.710 --> 00:24:21.990 and mutual aid organization with 1700 local Chapters. 00:24:21.990 --> 00:24:24.440 Here in our Redwood valley Chapter, 00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:27.110 we are particularly worried about wildfires. 00:24:27.110 --> 00:24:32.043 We lost nine lives and 545 structures in the 2017 fire 00:24:32.980 --> 00:24:35.620 and our Grange building served as a critical community 00:24:35.620 --> 00:24:38.930 resource for evacuees serving hot meals, 00:24:38.930 --> 00:24:42.500 distributing supplies, and providing space for FEMA. 00:24:42.500 --> 00:24:45.360 We're now exploring the possibility of installing solar plus 00:24:45.360 --> 00:24:49.310 storage on our building so that we can serve as a cooling 00:24:49.310 --> 00:24:50.770 and charging station 00:24:50.770 --> 00:24:53.650 the next time there's a fire or a blackout. 00:24:53.650 --> 00:24:56.880 Our fear of wildfires and interest in solar lead us to bring 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:00.690 a resolution to the California state Grange a few days ago, 00:25:00.690 --> 00:25:04.160 the resolution which passed at the state level affirms the 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:06.120 Grange's support for solar 00:25:06.120 --> 00:25:09.310 and opposes any efforts to roll back net metering 00:25:09.310 --> 00:25:12.857 or impose any fees on solar customers thank you. 00:25:15.331 --> 00:25:18.233 Thank you operator to the next caller, please. 00:25:19.345 --> 00:25:22.200 Our next caller is Nancy Kelly 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:23.050 you may go ahead. 00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:26.270 Hello I'm Nancy Kelly 00:25:26.270 --> 00:25:29.430 I was top solar rate payer from San Diego. 00:25:29.430 --> 00:25:32.790 I'm 50 year plus resident of California, 00:25:32.790 --> 00:25:34.900 I've raised my family here and taught school 00:25:34.900 --> 00:25:36.550 until my retirement. 00:25:36.550 --> 00:25:39.530 My two granddaughters who live in California. 00:25:39.530 --> 00:25:42.820 There is nothing more important to me than that 00:25:42.820 --> 00:25:44.840 my children Grant's daughters 00:25:44.840 --> 00:25:46.930 and the families of my past students 00:25:46.930 --> 00:25:50.880 are provided with their right to a sustainable future. 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:52.900 The only way this can be accomplished 00:25:52.900 --> 00:25:54.780 is by inclusion of the growth 00:25:54.780 --> 00:25:58.990 of equitable, affordable rooftop, solar and battery storage. 00:25:58.990 --> 00:26:02.780 Please reject the inaccurate statements of IOUs 00:26:02.780 --> 00:26:06.170 rooftop solar is vital and overall economically 00:26:06.170 --> 00:26:08.390 beneficial for all, 00:26:08.390 --> 00:26:11.900 and most importantly, an imperative for a livable future 00:26:11.900 --> 00:26:14.893 for our children and grandchildren thank you. 00:26:19.370 --> 00:26:22.143 Thank you operator next caller, please. 00:26:23.041 --> 00:26:26.930 Our next caller is Rocco Ocampo 00:26:26.930 --> 00:26:28.450 you may go ahead. 00:26:28.450 --> 00:26:30.620 Thank you and Good morning. 00:26:30.620 --> 00:26:33.360 My name is Rocco Compo and I live in San Kundalini, 00:26:33.360 --> 00:26:36.450 California I'm an advocate of clean and renewable energy. 00:26:36.450 --> 00:26:40.070 I'm calling today that you to ask that you help keep solar 00:26:40.070 --> 00:26:43.050 affordable for families of all income levels and promote its 00:26:43.050 --> 00:26:46.450 use throughout our safe growth in the solar industry 00:26:46.450 --> 00:26:48.570 would directly aid the mandate to California, 00:26:48.570 --> 00:26:51.430 reach of fully renewable energy infrastructure, 00:26:51.430 --> 00:26:54.170 which is why it can be puzzling to discern why the proposed 00:26:54.170 --> 00:26:57.563 net energy metering 3.0 changes are even being considered. 00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:01.210 I pray that you would take into consideration our best 00:27:01.210 --> 00:27:04.899 interest before allowing the implementation of such a plan. 00:27:04.899 --> 00:27:08.810 Our current system of energy is based on nearly essentially 00:27:08.810 --> 00:27:12.120 a technology nearly a century old and not effective enough 00:27:12.120 --> 00:27:13.370 to give us affordable power 00:27:13.370 --> 00:27:14.990 without damaging the environment, 00:27:14.990 --> 00:27:17.720 causing wildfires and leaving people in many areas, 00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:20.290 experiencing power outages, 00:27:20.290 --> 00:27:23.170 solar battery storage in a safe and affordable way for us to 00:27:23.170 --> 00:27:24.700 have a reliable source of energy 00:27:24.700 --> 00:27:27.060 without the danger of the property and lives. 00:27:27.060 --> 00:27:29.730 During my three seasons fighting California wildfires, 00:27:29.730 --> 00:27:32.360 I found that utility companies such as Southern California 00:27:32.360 --> 00:27:35.910 Edison were found culpable for California wildfires, 00:27:35.910 --> 00:27:39.140 such as the Thomas fire in Santa Barbara during 2017, 00:27:39.140 --> 00:27:42.420 in which over 280,000 acres were burned 00:27:42.420 --> 00:27:47.333 due to down power lines, many brave men and lots of lives. 00:27:51.300 --> 00:27:52.760 Thank you, sir. 00:27:52.760 --> 00:27:54.623 Operator the next caller, please. 00:27:57.117 --> 00:27:59.300 Our next caller is Rennie Wise 00:27:59.300 --> 00:28:01.220 with solar rights Alliance. 00:28:01.220 --> 00:28:02.070 You may go ahead. 00:28:03.810 --> 00:28:05.400 Hi, my name is Ronnie Wise. 00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:07.170 I live in Fremont. 00:28:07.170 --> 00:28:11.160 I have kids two daughters that I'm very proud of. 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:14.030 I'm sure many of the attendees today have children too, 00:28:14.030 --> 00:28:16.160 and you all want the best for them. 00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:17.880 We want them to grow up and live a happy, 00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:22.070 productive life only there's just one problem with that. 00:28:22.070 --> 00:28:23.730 The planet is sick, 00:28:23.730 --> 00:28:26.890 the hot days are hotter and the cold days are colder. 00:28:26.890 --> 00:28:30.536 We suffer from droughts, forest fires and power outages. 00:28:30.536 --> 00:28:34.080 A lot of those forest fires and power outages were caused 00:28:34.080 --> 00:28:36.780 by the negligence of utility companies. 00:28:36.780 --> 00:28:40.040 Many people have died in many homes were destroyed. 00:28:40.040 --> 00:28:42.010 Does it seem right to you that we should reward that 00:28:42.010 --> 00:28:46.520 negligence by allow them to penalize rooftop solar power too 00:28:46.520 --> 00:28:49.080 why penalize something this successful in the fight to 00:28:49.080 --> 00:28:50.730 end global warming 00:28:50.730 --> 00:28:54.060 just so PG&E shareholders can make more money. 00:28:54.060 --> 00:28:57.290 Is this the legacy you want to leave behind to our kids? 00:28:57.290 --> 00:28:58.880 Vote with your heart against these net 00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:00.730 entering metering changes 00:29:00.730 --> 00:29:02.340 and help keep rooftop, solar alive, 00:29:02.340 --> 00:29:05.123 and the fight to save our planet thank you. 00:29:06.260 --> 00:29:09.563 Thank you, operator next caller please. 00:29:12.594 --> 00:29:16.110 And our next caller is Lawrence Abbott 00:29:16.110 --> 00:29:17.623 you may go ahead. 00:29:17.623 --> 00:29:20.310 Hi guess I have two comments 00:29:20.310 --> 00:29:25.310 one is that landline service needs to be 00:29:26.040 --> 00:29:30.280 maintained and restored and not cut back. 00:29:30.280 --> 00:29:33.060 It's too important for communication to have 00:29:33.060 --> 00:29:35.770 at least two types and of course landlines 00:29:35.770 --> 00:29:38.430 are the most reliable and especially 00:29:38.430 --> 00:29:41.830 every 10 years or so, we have a solar flares from the sun, 00:29:41.830 --> 00:29:44.450 which will definitely knock out every now and then, 00:29:44.450 --> 00:29:48.040 the major solar flares will knock out the wireless service 00:29:48.040 --> 00:29:50.350 first and that will just cripple communication. 00:29:50.350 --> 00:29:54.000 So we need to have wired for those events and for all 00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:56.520 events, the backup system for net metering, 00:29:56.520 --> 00:29:59.240 we must maintain that lead metering even 00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:01.990 and no new fees on net metering. 00:30:01.990 --> 00:30:04.550 In fact, we need to add more financial incentives 00:30:04.550 --> 00:30:07.320 because we need to transition to renewable as you quicker 00:30:07.320 --> 00:30:08.310 or we're all doomed. 00:30:08.310 --> 00:30:09.363 Thank you so much. 00:30:11.660 --> 00:30:14.467 Thank you, operator next caller Please. 00:30:23.420 --> 00:30:25.810 Operator do we have another caller? 00:30:25.810 --> 00:30:28.240 I apologize and at this time 00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:30.020 I show no additional callers, but again, 00:30:30.020 --> 00:30:31.500 if you would like to make a comment, 00:30:31.500 --> 00:30:32.820 please unmute your phone, 00:30:32.820 --> 00:30:36.910 press star one and record your name clearly when prompted. 00:30:36.910 --> 00:30:38.310 So I may introduce you, 00:30:38.310 --> 00:30:40.360 again that is star one to make a comment. 00:30:48.180 --> 00:30:51.278 Okay let's check the line again, operator. 00:30:51.278 --> 00:30:54.078 Yeah, please stand by for our next comment. 00:30:59.940 --> 00:31:02.833 Our next caller is from Mike Lane you may go ahead. 00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:05.620 Yeah. 00:31:05.620 --> 00:31:10.620 I'm calling to objective the race of the so-called Wi-Fi 00:31:12.873 --> 00:31:17.837 measurement, A20-02-003 and A21-08-015 so-called 00:31:25.560 --> 00:31:28.270 cost of a capital application. 00:31:28.270 --> 00:31:30.150 increased rate for that, 00:31:30.150 --> 00:31:34.350 it sounds to me that is to guarantee the PG&E 00:31:34.350 --> 00:31:36.593 to make a profit that's ridiculous. 00:31:38.460 --> 00:31:42.710 That's no, any firms should be guaranteed 00:31:42.710 --> 00:31:47.430 to make a huge profit and the way I look at it, 00:31:47.430 --> 00:31:51.230 the PUC should not act as a rubber stamp 00:31:51.230 --> 00:31:56.230 to approve each off their request for the rate increase, 00:31:56.590 --> 00:32:00.940 besides that, for the residential 00:32:03.806 --> 00:32:05.550 I think the first allowance is 00:32:05.550 --> 00:32:10.550 204, 204K WHS a way too low 00:32:11.116 --> 00:32:16.116 and once they go over, that would be jumped to tier two. 00:32:16.600 --> 00:32:20.513 So the tier one allowance should be raised to 250. 00:32:21.520 --> 00:32:26.520 Okay, so I hope PUC stand as a consumer's side, 00:32:29.700 --> 00:32:30.863 he set up at, 00:32:31.730 --> 00:32:35.843 the big corporate side to kind of balance thank you. 00:32:36.970 --> 00:32:39.653 Thank you operator next caller, please. 00:32:40.822 --> 00:32:44.083 Our next caller is Ann Harvey you may go ahead. 00:32:45.280 --> 00:32:46.700 Hi, I'm Ann Harvey. 00:32:46.700 --> 00:32:49.430 I'm a retired doctor in Oakland 00:32:49.430 --> 00:32:51.840 and a member of climate health now 00:32:51.840 --> 00:32:53.880 more than 500 healthcare professionals 00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:55.450 who recognize climate change 00:32:55.450 --> 00:32:58.180 as the public health and equity emergency 00:32:58.180 --> 00:33:00.050 of our lifetimes. 00:33:00.050 --> 00:33:03.940 As the most recent reports of the IPUC and international 00:33:03.940 --> 00:33:08.250 energy agency emphasize we have a very narrow pathway to 00:33:08.250 --> 00:33:12.490 avoid the worst irreversible catastrophic consequences 00:33:12.490 --> 00:33:14.220 of global warming, 00:33:14.220 --> 00:33:15.890 which is of course primarily due to 00:33:15.890 --> 00:33:18.580 fossil fuel extraction and combustion 00:33:18.580 --> 00:33:22.230 and the CPUC really needs to be a part of the solution, 00:33:22.230 --> 00:33:25.130 not promoting the problem please keep rooftop, 00:33:25.130 --> 00:33:28.810 solar and battery storage growing in California and make it 00:33:28.810 --> 00:33:31.420 more equitable so that millions of working class people 00:33:31.420 --> 00:33:35.333 can get solar in the coming years thank you. 00:33:37.884 --> 00:33:40.700 Thank you, Operator 00:33:40.700 --> 00:33:42.330 you think we have some more folks on the line. 00:33:42.330 --> 00:33:44.868 Could you bring on the next caller please? 00:33:44.868 --> 00:33:47.680 Our next caller is Nickton Champaneria 00:33:48.520 --> 00:33:50.070 you may go ahead. 00:33:50.070 --> 00:33:52.350 Yes Nickton Champaneria, 00:33:52.350 --> 00:33:54.320 retired quality engineer 00:33:56.760 --> 00:34:01.350 CPUC must not change the net-metering policy. 00:34:01.350 --> 00:34:05.083 It is promoted by utilities to make more money. 00:34:06.340 --> 00:34:11.340 The current metering policy is working and many people are 00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:15.290 interested in putting rooftop solar, 00:34:15.290 --> 00:34:19.803 and CPUC his role is to look at the goals of, 00:34:20.844 --> 00:34:25.844 our state that we need to be promoting green energy. 00:34:26.370 --> 00:34:31.370 It will be shameful if CPUC caves in 00:34:31.370 --> 00:34:34.607 with the utilities proposal thank you. 00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:39.683 Thank you, operator next caller please. 00:34:41.157 --> 00:34:43.470 And before we go to the next caller again, 00:34:43.470 --> 00:34:45.780 if you would like to make a comment, 00:34:45.780 --> 00:34:48.420 please press star one unmute your phone 00:34:48.420 --> 00:34:49.740 and clearly provide your name 00:34:49.740 --> 00:34:52.100 and organization when prompted. 00:34:52.100 --> 00:34:55.093 our next caller is Zack you may go ahead. 00:34:56.546 --> 00:34:57.870 Hi, good morning, 00:34:57.870 --> 00:35:00.300 net energy metering through residential rooftop solar 00:35:00.300 --> 00:35:02.477 is South side to the normal across 00:35:02.477 --> 00:35:04.190 homeowners for low income renters. 00:35:04.190 --> 00:35:06.570 It is an in equal policy, homeowners, 00:35:06.570 --> 00:35:08.770 rooftop solar grossly overestimate 00:35:08.770 --> 00:35:10.070 the value of the solar panels 00:35:10.070 --> 00:35:12.693 because of the net energy leading policy subsidy. 00:35:13.750 --> 00:35:15.606 These properties are not off the grid 00:35:15.606 --> 00:35:17.480 rather they rely on the grant, 00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:19.270 they rely on power from the grid, 00:35:19.270 --> 00:35:21.470 and they're unfairly enriched by the policy. 00:35:25.140 --> 00:35:28.123 Thank you operator the next caller please. 00:35:30.382 --> 00:35:32.230 And President Batjer at this time, 00:35:32.230 --> 00:35:35.780 I show no additional callers in the public comments queue. 00:35:35.780 --> 00:35:38.700 Okay operator thank so much. 00:35:38.700 --> 00:35:41.500 With no more callers on the line 00:35:41.500 --> 00:35:43.850 the public comment period is now closed. 00:35:43.850 --> 00:35:46.170 Thank you all for who called in this morning 00:35:46.170 --> 00:35:47.513 we greatly appreciate it. 00:35:50.430 --> 00:35:53.860 We have a slight adjustment to today's schedule. 00:35:53.860 --> 00:35:57.100 Before we move on to agenda changes, 00:35:57.100 --> 00:35:59.130 we will take up item 28, 00:35:59.130 --> 00:36:02.540 which is the management report and discussion on recent 00:36:02.540 --> 00:36:05.983 consumer protection and safety activities. 00:36:07.610 --> 00:36:12.000 Today, we have a presentation on the Commission's actions to 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:16.640 protect consumers customers during COVID. 00:36:16.640 --> 00:36:19.640 I will now turn to executive director Peterson 00:36:19.640 --> 00:36:23.573 to introduce today's speaker Rachael. 00:36:24.831 --> 00:36:27.350 Good morning thank you, President Batjer 00:36:27.350 --> 00:36:29.023 and thank you Commissioners. 00:36:30.160 --> 00:36:34.080 I really appreciate the opportunity to present to you today. 00:36:34.080 --> 00:36:38.010 This is the first of three presentations that I've asked 00:36:38.010 --> 00:36:40.300 staff to prepare that focus on our work 00:36:40.300 --> 00:36:42.823 on behalf of California customers. 00:36:43.910 --> 00:36:45.310 The first one today, 00:36:45.310 --> 00:36:47.870 you'll hear about the protections that the Commission 00:36:47.870 --> 00:36:52.770 established during the COVID-19 pandemic for people who fell 00:36:52.770 --> 00:36:55.393 behind on their electric and gas bills. 00:36:56.340 --> 00:36:59.140 At the next voting meeting in October, 00:36:59.140 --> 00:37:02.890 you'll hear about the work of our consumer affairs branch, 00:37:02.890 --> 00:37:06.550 which handles individual customer complaints across all of 00:37:06.550 --> 00:37:10.430 the types of utilities we regulate and the enforcement team 00:37:10.430 --> 00:37:13.813 that executes enforcement actions to benefit consumers. 00:37:14.870 --> 00:37:16.880 Then we'll hold off for a little bit because you'll have 00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:21.740 very full agendas in November, December, and in early 2022, 00:37:21.740 --> 00:37:25.010 we'll bring you our third presentation about how we are 00:37:25.010 --> 00:37:28.800 transforming some of our customer programs in order to 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:32.030 further our mission of ensuring that utilities provide 00:37:32.030 --> 00:37:34.113 affordable service to California. 00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:38.893 If we can go to the next slide, please. 00:37:44.640 --> 00:37:46.910 So as we turn to the protections 00:37:46.910 --> 00:37:49.600 for electric and gas customers, 00:37:49.600 --> 00:37:52.480 I do want to note that alongside these protections, 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:56.260 we took a number of different actions during the pandemic 00:37:56.260 --> 00:37:59.900 because COVID-19 exacerbated the digital divide 00:37:59.900 --> 00:38:01.350 across our state. 00:38:01.350 --> 00:38:03.140 In the early part of 2020, 00:38:03.140 --> 00:38:06.740 we requested that the five largest wireless providers 00:38:06.740 --> 00:38:10.436 and the 10 largest internet service providers in California 00:38:10.436 --> 00:38:13.730 wave data caps and overage fees. 00:38:13.730 --> 00:38:16.020 Later in December of last year, 00:38:16.020 --> 00:38:19.040 we impose a moratorium on late payment fees and 00:38:19.040 --> 00:38:22.993 disconnection for non-payment for communications customers. 00:38:23.950 --> 00:38:27.180 We also directed transportation network companies like Uber 00:38:27.180 --> 00:38:30.570 and Lyft to provide their COVID response plans, 00:38:30.570 --> 00:38:32.370 including details of how they plan 00:38:32.370 --> 00:38:34.480 to keep drivers and customers safe. 00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.350 In the event of increased community transmission 00:38:38.520 --> 00:38:39.510 throughout the pandemic, 00:38:39.510 --> 00:38:43.710 our rail safety staff figured out how to conduct virtual 00:38:43.710 --> 00:38:46.880 security inspections on all 37 railroads 00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:48.550 that operate in California 00:38:49.660 --> 00:38:51.620 and finally, after a short pause, 00:38:51.620 --> 00:38:56.620 our gas safety team resumed their regular inspections of gas 00:38:56.740 --> 00:39:00.270 systems in mobile home parks across California. 00:39:00.270 --> 00:39:03.290 They resumed those in summer 2020 and have continued 00:39:03.290 --> 00:39:06.326 performing that essential safety work. 00:39:06.326 --> 00:39:10.210 I'm really proud of the work that our Commission staff did 00:39:10.210 --> 00:39:13.650 to continue to actively protect people in California, 00:39:13.650 --> 00:39:15.210 both in response to, 00:39:15.210 --> 00:39:20.160 and despite this global public health emergency. 00:39:20.160 --> 00:39:23.890 So now I will turn to deputy executive director for energy 00:39:23.890 --> 00:39:27.600 and climate Edward Randolph for a more in-depth look at the 00:39:27.600 --> 00:39:31.010 protections that we've established for electricity and gas 00:39:31.010 --> 00:39:36.010 customers and how now we are establishing and ensuring that 00:39:36.200 --> 00:39:39.710 the utilities implement debt management programs 00:39:39.710 --> 00:39:42.563 as different moratoria are coming to an end. 00:39:43.550 --> 00:39:44.963 Ed turning over to you. 00:39:49.490 --> 00:39:53.780 Thank you, executive director Peterson, 00:39:53.780 --> 00:39:57.400 and thank you for actually scheduling this particular 00:39:57.400 --> 00:39:58.840 presentation at this moment in time. 00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:02.420 I think it's particularly timely to talk about the 00:40:02.420 --> 00:40:04.410 protections we were able to put in place 00:40:04.410 --> 00:40:06.230 during the pandemic. 00:40:06.230 --> 00:40:07.640 Right now, 00:40:07.640 --> 00:40:11.070 because we have a number of protections in place to 00:40:11.070 --> 00:40:15.030 transition as off of the moratorium on disconnection 00:40:15.030 --> 00:40:16.950 and other protections. 00:40:16.950 --> 00:40:20.480 That it's very important that we discuss this publicly 00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:21.900 so people are aware of this so this is, 00:40:21.900 --> 00:40:26.600 I find very time that I do want to start out broadly and 00:40:27.520 --> 00:40:32.020 similar to executive director Petersen's comments. 00:40:32.020 --> 00:40:36.690 I'm incredibly proud of the work that the Commission, 00:40:36.690 --> 00:40:41.690 the Commissioners staff and all the divisions have done, 00:40:42.540 --> 00:40:46.130 but especially of energy division of my own teams 00:40:46.130 --> 00:40:49.750 I did as a COVID stay at home orders 00:40:49.750 --> 00:40:52.660 were put into place almost immediately 00:40:52.660 --> 00:40:55.260 in the same days that we were dealing with 00:40:55.260 --> 00:40:57.530 working from home for the first time 00:40:57.530 --> 00:41:02.530 and transitioning to staring at video screens all day 00:41:02.930 --> 00:41:05.770 and not being in offices and figuring out 00:41:05.770 --> 00:41:07.242 internet connection issues. 00:41:07.242 --> 00:41:11.320 We did not miss a beat in proactively going out and 00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:15.690 identifying where they're going to be potential issues for 00:41:15.690 --> 00:41:17.380 electric and natural gas customers, 00:41:17.380 --> 00:41:19.948 and make sure we were immediately putting 00:41:19.948 --> 00:41:21.140 protections in place. 00:41:21.140 --> 00:41:23.570 I'm gonna focus on a few in this presentation, 00:41:23.570 --> 00:41:27.860 but others that we don't talk about in this presentation is 00:41:27.860 --> 00:41:32.860 that we were able to go out and very quickly track energy 00:41:33.200 --> 00:41:36.400 usage and look at new trends and energy usage, 00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:38.150 which did help us some down the road 00:41:38.150 --> 00:41:40.660 with some reliability forecasting. 00:41:40.660 --> 00:41:45.660 But that also allowed us to very quickly understand how 00:41:45.700 --> 00:41:50.700 people's bills are gonna change and that with higher energy 00:41:51.120 --> 00:41:54.570 usage under our tiered rate structure, 00:41:54.570 --> 00:41:57.010 people's bills were potentially not gonna go up 00:41:57.010 --> 00:41:59.274 proportionally, but we're gonna go up exponentially 00:41:59.274 --> 00:42:02.490 and could be huge impacts on some customers 00:42:02.490 --> 00:42:07.490 and that initial tracking and research was enabled you as 00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:11.370 the Commissioners to quickly put in place some changes in 00:42:11.370 --> 00:42:15.710 the tiered rate structures to minimize those impacts on 00:42:15.710 --> 00:42:20.710 customers and to quickly pivot how we distribute climate 00:42:20.730 --> 00:42:25.730 credits, which is a bill credit that shows up bi-annually on 00:42:26.080 --> 00:42:30.010 customer's bills so that they were showing up in months 00:42:30.010 --> 00:42:33.140 where the bill credit would be more helpful to customers 00:42:33.140 --> 00:42:35.097 and reduce the risk of customers 00:42:35.097 --> 00:42:37.120 not being able to pay those bills. 00:42:37.120 --> 00:42:39.700 So I'm extremely proud of all of that work, 00:42:39.700 --> 00:42:43.830 but moving on to specific actions there in this 00:42:43.830 --> 00:42:46.463 presentation, if we can move to the next slide, please. 00:42:49.070 --> 00:42:51.313 First and almost immediately, 00:42:52.200 --> 00:42:56.003 the PUC was able to issue orders, 00:42:57.040 --> 00:42:59.290 putting the moratorium on all disconnections, 00:42:59.290 --> 00:43:01.560 that most of the slide I will skip over the text, 00:43:01.560 --> 00:43:04.112 it's the process of how we got there, 00:43:04.112 --> 00:43:08.373 but with the help of legal division executive division, 00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:14.100 we were able to very quickly put in place a moratorium on 00:43:14.100 --> 00:43:19.100 disconnection for all customers for nonpayment. 00:43:19.870 --> 00:43:22.169 We also, it's not mentioned on this slide, 00:43:22.169 --> 00:43:26.590 directed the utilities to go back and reconnect 00:43:26.590 --> 00:43:28.530 any customer that was, 00:43:28.530 --> 00:43:31.240 had been disconnected previous to the moratorium 00:43:31.240 --> 00:43:34.430 and we're on a weekly basis 00:43:34.430 --> 00:43:37.390 and then as we kind of got down to smaller and smaller 00:43:37.390 --> 00:43:39.850 numbers, almost on a customer by customer basis, 00:43:39.850 --> 00:43:43.150 we're working with the utilities to make sure that each of 00:43:43.150 --> 00:43:47.240 those customers were reconnected out there 00:43:47.240 --> 00:43:50.010 to the point that after a few weeks, 00:43:50.010 --> 00:43:52.743 if you saw the weekly tracking of number of customers 00:43:52.743 --> 00:43:54.120 that are disconnected, 00:43:54.120 --> 00:43:57.130 the number we got zero across all utilities 00:43:57.130 --> 00:44:00.603 and it's remained that way, which I find, quite amazing. 00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:04.920 Yeah and the next slide, please. 00:44:07.560 --> 00:44:12.560 We also very quickly at the beginning of the moratorium, 00:44:13.510 --> 00:44:18.510 took some other actions that to help customers a main one 00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:23.960 out there was we directed the utilities to increase 00:44:26.600 --> 00:44:31.600 their well, with a focus on CARE and FERA, 00:44:32.240 --> 00:44:34.010 we took a couple actions there. 00:44:34.010 --> 00:44:37.980 The first action with the low income programs 00:44:37.980 --> 00:44:39.840 was to suspend, 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:44.053 any removal of customers from those programs in the suspend, 00:44:45.390 --> 00:44:49.210 any post enrollment verification for customers. 00:44:49.210 --> 00:44:53.134 So customers could automatically enrolled in the programs 00:44:53.134 --> 00:44:56.180 with very little effort as a matter of fact, 00:44:56.180 --> 00:44:58.163 these programs are, has still the case. 00:44:59.750 --> 00:45:03.840 You just need to call the utility and verify a few data 00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:04.980 points that you qualify 00:45:04.980 --> 00:45:06.550 and then you can be enrolled into it. 00:45:06.550 --> 00:45:07.460 But to that point, 00:45:07.460 --> 00:45:10.530 we also asked the utilities to dramatically 00:45:10.530 --> 00:45:12.453 increase their marketing and outreach, 00:45:13.730 --> 00:45:16.270 both through their own channels and working with 00:45:16.270 --> 00:45:18.053 community-based organizations. 00:45:19.080 --> 00:45:21.913 So customers were aware of these options. 00:45:22.770 --> 00:45:27.080 We really pushed them on messaging to customers 00:45:27.080 --> 00:45:28.460 that if they have, 00:45:28.460 --> 00:45:31.160 a simple message that if you have recently lost your job, 00:45:31.160 --> 00:45:34.230 you're most likely qualified for CARE 00:45:34.230 --> 00:45:36.660 and then it only takes a phone call to enroll, 00:45:36.660 --> 00:45:39.940 and you were immediately enrolled in the program 00:45:39.940 --> 00:45:42.510 and consequently there's data on another slide, 00:45:42.510 --> 00:45:43.343 but I'll bring it up here 00:45:43.343 --> 00:45:47.020 we saw an 18% increase in care participation 00:45:47.020 --> 00:45:50.650 due to those outreach programs 00:45:51.590 --> 00:45:54.300 and then on the energy savings assistance program, 00:45:54.300 --> 00:45:58.513 which is a low income energy efficiency program, 00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:04.410 we quickly identified risks to the workforce that works on 00:46:04.410 --> 00:46:08.260 that, that in the time of the stay-at-home orders, 00:46:08.260 --> 00:46:11.880 they were gonna be unable to do work and without 00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:16.223 paychecks and if we were not able to find a stable, 00:46:17.730 --> 00:46:20.230 stream to continue to pay those employees, 00:46:20.230 --> 00:46:23.330 the program could collapse on itself over time 00:46:23.330 --> 00:46:26.728 and so we're able to develop mechanisms to over a short 00:46:26.728 --> 00:46:28.053 period of time, 00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:32.653 keep the employees of those programs paid, next slide. 00:46:36.650 --> 00:46:39.810 And then results of some of these protections 00:46:39.810 --> 00:46:41.560 as I've already said, 00:46:41.560 --> 00:46:45.770 enrollment and care has increased by 18% over time. 00:46:45.770 --> 00:46:49.320 There's a statistic in here that care enrollment rate is a 00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.760 100% of eligible customers for anybody looks at 00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:54.720 that and says, well, that's an indication of fraud. 00:46:54.720 --> 00:46:57.770 What that is an indication is of the baseline number we use 00:46:57.770 --> 00:47:00.100 for eligible customers is actually pre COVID 00:47:01.210 --> 00:47:04.050 and now the baseline number of eligible customers is 00:47:04.050 --> 00:47:07.300 obviously much higher, but then the process in which, 00:47:07.300 --> 00:47:11.320 we set those baselines, hasn't been readjusted out there 00:47:14.010 --> 00:47:19.004 and then nearly a 1.5 million CARE and FERA customers 00:47:19.004 --> 00:47:21.700 did not have to recertify 00:47:21.700 --> 00:47:24.393 at the end of their initial eligibility period 00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:30.542 and then we were able to work with 65 different 00:47:30.542 --> 00:47:32.760 ESA Energy Savings Assistance, 00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:37.170 contractors to provide them $44 million in advanced payments 00:47:37.170 --> 00:47:39.320 to keep their employees employed 00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:41.643 during the stay at home orders, next slide. 00:47:44.200 --> 00:47:46.440 These next slides, I'm not gonna dwell on. 00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:51.440 They can be found on our website after the presentation. 00:47:52.100 --> 00:47:54.757 They simply show the growing amount of, 00:47:54.757 --> 00:47:59.757 and the dollar amounts of arrearages mean unpaid bills from 00:47:59.820 --> 00:48:03.430 customers across the utility, worth noting, 00:48:03.430 --> 00:48:05.640 I'll kind of point this out in a later slide that, 00:48:05.640 --> 00:48:08.030 as we've grown across the time, 00:48:08.030 --> 00:48:10.490 we're at the 1.4 billion mark, 00:48:10.490 --> 00:48:13.970 approximately in total on point I paid bills across 00:48:15.180 --> 00:48:17.930 all the utilities and if we can move to the next slide, 00:48:21.470 --> 00:48:24.167 and then similarly, this is tracking the, 00:48:25.940 --> 00:48:27.270 just the low income customers, 00:48:27.270 --> 00:48:30.833 customers who are enrolled in the care or the fear programs 00:48:30.833 --> 00:48:35.410 and their arrearage one thing that is worth noting 00:48:35.410 --> 00:48:36.410 if you were to flip it, 00:48:36.410 --> 00:48:38.460 I'm not gonna do this back and forth between the two 00:48:38.460 --> 00:48:43.460 slides is a large percentage of the customers who 00:48:45.610 --> 00:48:49.140 do have unpaid bills or back bills actually are not enrolled 00:48:49.140 --> 00:48:51.113 in the CARE and FERA program. 00:48:53.820 --> 00:48:56.500 It's been hard to kind of explain some of that and do the 00:48:56.500 --> 00:48:59.460 data dive on that over time. 00:48:59.460 --> 00:49:01.520 But it does mean if, as we, 00:49:01.520 --> 00:49:06.160 the disconnection moratorium is lifted or was lifted last 00:49:06.160 --> 00:49:09.810 week programs that are aimed at the care and fear eligible 00:49:09.810 --> 00:49:14.660 customers are not gonna cover all customers who were, 00:49:14.660 --> 00:49:16.397 had not paid their bills 00:49:16.397 --> 00:49:17.860 and over the next few months, 00:49:17.860 --> 00:49:20.920 I think it's pretty important to track kind of both 00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:23.283 categories of customers to see, 00:49:25.720 --> 00:49:27.740 how people are paying down their bills now 00:49:27.740 --> 00:49:32.570 that they're subject to being disconnected for nonpayment. 00:49:32.570 --> 00:49:33.563 Next slide, please. 00:49:37.060 --> 00:49:39.880 And then moving into, I think a very important thing 00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:41.170 and another part that I'm really proud 00:49:41.170 --> 00:49:42.533 of the Commission for, 00:49:43.810 --> 00:49:46.750 and especially under Commissioner leadership 00:49:46.750 --> 00:49:47.583 and pushing this, 00:49:47.583 --> 00:49:52.583 having a lot of foresight to design some programs 00:49:53.090 --> 00:49:57.720 that ease people off of the months 00:49:57.720 --> 00:50:01.760 where they wouldn't be disconnected for nonpayment, 00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:04.180 so that they have some mechanisms where they can actually 00:50:04.180 --> 00:50:09.180 afford to pay down their bills and not be hit with a massive 00:50:10.600 --> 00:50:12.690 requirement upfront. 00:50:12.690 --> 00:50:14.160 The first program is actually 00:50:14.160 --> 00:50:17.715 out of the state's budget this year 00:50:17.715 --> 00:50:19.330 referred to as the California Arrearage 00:50:19.330 --> 00:50:21.380 Payment Program or CAPP. 00:50:21.380 --> 00:50:26.380 This is a billion dollars general fund money that has been 00:50:27.190 --> 00:50:30.533 allocated to the department of community services CSD to 00:50:33.390 --> 00:50:38.080 help pay down unpaid utility bills out there. 00:50:38.080 --> 00:50:40.160 This doesn't the billion dollars 00:50:40.160 --> 00:50:42.890 isn't just for our jurisdictional entities, 00:50:42.890 --> 00:50:46.110 it also applies to the publicly owned utilities, 00:50:46.110 --> 00:50:49.037 but the split between them as about a little under 00:50:49.037 --> 00:50:51.180 $7 million, $700 million, 00:50:51.180 --> 00:50:55.880 going to the investor on utilities or the CCAs out 00:50:57.750 --> 00:50:59.833 there with the rest going to the POUs. 00:51:03.252 --> 00:51:07.710 The way this mechanism will work is as the CSD developed 00:51:07.710 --> 00:51:11.970 the rules, the utilities will be required to apply 00:51:11.970 --> 00:51:15.800 on behalf of their customers for the funding 00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:18.190 and once they collect that funding, 00:51:18.190 --> 00:51:21.480 they apply it to the eligible customers bills 00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:23.550 as they build credit automatically 00:51:23.550 --> 00:51:25.100 and so the customer themselves don't 00:51:25.100 --> 00:51:27.930 have to take any actions 00:51:27.930 --> 00:51:30.480 it will show up as a bill credit on their own bill. 00:51:31.410 --> 00:51:35.100 If we can move to the next slide, 00:51:35.100 --> 00:51:37.683 actually one critical point on this last slide, 00:51:38.530 --> 00:51:41.500 as far as disconnections go, 00:51:41.500 --> 00:51:45.280 any customers that are eligible for this program 00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:49.750 cannot be disconnected while the utility is 00:51:49.750 --> 00:51:53.170 going through the application process to get the funds 00:51:53.170 --> 00:51:58.170 and then the IOUs cannot disconnect any recipients of the 00:51:59.350 --> 00:52:04.040 funds for 90 days after the credit is applied. 00:52:04.040 --> 00:52:07.631 So there are some protections and safety nets against 00:52:07.631 --> 00:52:10.900 disconnection of these customers 00:52:10.900 --> 00:52:12.690 as we move through the process 00:52:12.690 --> 00:52:15.793 to get them their bill credits next slide. 00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:23.570 The by statute, the CAPP program has priority groups 00:52:25.420 --> 00:52:30.420 on how to allocate the funding at this moment in time, 00:52:31.670 --> 00:52:36.670 CSD is still working through guidelines on how applications 00:52:36.810 --> 00:52:40.350 from the utilities should be submitted and how that would 00:52:40.350 --> 00:52:44.203 apply to each of the priority groups, next slide. 00:52:49.050 --> 00:52:52.540 Timeline for the CAPP program, 00:52:52.540 --> 00:52:55.230 actually just kind of skipping to where we are now 00:52:55.230 --> 00:52:57.710 by the middle of this month, 00:52:57.710 --> 00:53:01.023 we expect CSD to open the application window. 00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:05.140 The window will close in mid September or mid December 00:53:06.500 --> 00:53:10.510 and we expect in the statute requires 00:53:10.510 --> 00:53:14.600 that all the funds be distributed by the utility by the end 00:53:14.600 --> 00:53:17.840 of January of next year, next slide 00:53:20.640 --> 00:53:22.720 and then now looking at two programs 00:53:22.720 --> 00:53:27.640 that the PUC has put in place around arrearage management, 00:53:27.640 --> 00:53:29.903 the first one was approved, 00:53:29.903 --> 00:53:34.560 by the Commissioners by you in June of this last year. 00:53:35.980 --> 00:53:38.190 But this is from a proceeding in a process 00:53:38.190 --> 00:53:42.220 that was actually started before COVID and applies 00:53:42.220 --> 00:53:47.220 and it's intended to work for customers with I've had 00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:51.270 trouble paying their bills over, 00:53:51.270 --> 00:53:52.763 long after we get, 00:53:54.260 --> 00:53:56.300 through the current disconnection in COVID, 00:53:56.300 --> 00:53:59.670 it's a permanent program out there there, 00:53:59.670 --> 00:54:04.580 and this program is set up to allow 00:54:04.580 --> 00:54:07.203 for the eligible customers out there, 00:54:08.260 --> 00:54:13.260 income based and based on how long your, 00:54:13.370 --> 00:54:16.210 your bills are past due and the amount of money 00:54:16.210 --> 00:54:19.060 in your past to bill on there. 00:54:19.060 --> 00:54:20.650 But those customers will be enrolled 00:54:20.650 --> 00:54:23.233 in this arrearage management plan, 00:54:24.080 --> 00:54:29.080 where they will pay down a portion of their back payment on 00:54:29.370 --> 00:54:33.943 their bill each month and as they pay down on each month, 00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:37.460 one 12th of their bill is forgiven. 00:54:37.460 --> 00:54:40.250 So if they are able to get on this plan 00:54:40.250 --> 00:54:42.083 and stay on these plans, 00:54:43.100 --> 00:54:48.100 they over time will actually owe less than less out there as 00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:51.460 part of the process and the hope would, 00:54:51.460 --> 00:54:55.490 these types of programs is you were giving an affordable 00:54:55.490 --> 00:54:58.720 option to customers, so they aren't disconnected. 00:54:58.720 --> 00:55:02.450 They aren't in default, but also allowing the utilities, 00:55:02.450 --> 00:55:03.803 a path to recover, 00:55:04.850 --> 00:55:07.410 much more revenue than they would if they had 00:55:07.410 --> 00:55:09.603 just disconnected the customer entirely. 00:55:11.997 --> 00:55:14.343 Kind of critically to know when we talk about this 00:55:14.343 --> 00:55:16.500 in all of these programs I, 00:55:16.500 --> 00:55:19.440 we talk about it as the IOU customers, 00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:22.583 the community choice aggregator customers are, 00:55:23.940 --> 00:55:28.940 billed by the IOUs part of their bill is to the IOU 00:55:29.130 --> 00:55:30.937 part of the bill to CCA 00:55:30.937 --> 00:55:32.617 and so for the generation point of this, 00:55:32.617 --> 00:55:36.670 the CCAs can choose to participate in this program as well. 00:55:36.670 --> 00:55:37.563 Next slide. 00:55:42.240 --> 00:55:44.590 Early data from this program, 00:55:44.590 --> 00:55:49.290 the arrearage management program just started 00:55:49.290 --> 00:55:52.960 so this shows you the initial months of data 00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.703 in terms of customer participation, 00:55:57.830 --> 00:56:01.760 amount of money that has been forgiven so far minimum amount 00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:03.820 of customers who've been enrolled in the program 00:56:03.820 --> 00:56:08.020 that have been removed from the program for nonpayment, 00:56:08.020 --> 00:56:12.210 given the kind of the youngness of the program 00:56:12.210 --> 00:56:15.550 and there's really only a few months of data. 00:56:15.550 --> 00:56:17.610 It's really impossible to kind of look at anything at this 00:56:17.610 --> 00:56:22.220 point in time, in terms of trends out there. 00:56:22.220 --> 00:56:24.260 We'd like to look at a longer-term data 00:56:24.260 --> 00:56:27.023 to note bigger trends, next slide. 00:56:30.100 --> 00:56:32.910 And then finally, 00:56:32.910 --> 00:56:37.910 in response to COVID and understanding that very large 00:56:40.450 --> 00:56:45.450 disconnection are very large amount of arrearage or 00:56:47.350 --> 00:56:50.730 unpaid bills for the utilities out there, 00:56:50.730 --> 00:56:52.640 knowing that there are a lot of customers that haven't paid 00:56:52.640 --> 00:56:54.830 their bills for very many, many months, 00:56:54.830 --> 00:56:56.480 have been unable to pay their bills for many, 00:56:56.480 --> 00:57:01.480 many months that we needed programs that gave them the tools 00:57:01.660 --> 00:57:02.860 to pay down their bills 00:57:02.860 --> 00:57:06.240 once they were expected to do that beyond that arrearage 00:57:06.240 --> 00:57:08.310 management program that I just discussed 00:57:08.310 --> 00:57:10.640 with limited to low income customers. 00:57:10.640 --> 00:57:13.820 So this is another program that the Commission approved 00:57:15.540 --> 00:57:18.143 this program is all residential 00:57:22.900 --> 00:57:25.370 and small commercial customers 00:57:25.370 --> 00:57:27.880 are eligible for this program 00:57:29.070 --> 00:57:33.523 any customer that needs that has a preset 00:57:36.420 --> 00:57:39.600 or established amount of unpaid bills 00:57:39.600 --> 00:57:41.780 as of September 30th, 00:57:41.780 --> 00:57:44.390 will automatically be enrolled in this program. 00:57:44.390 --> 00:57:47.330 They will be offered a 12 month payment plan 00:57:47.330 --> 00:57:48.653 to pay down their bills. 00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:03.633 Yeah and then critically on this exact number, 00:58:04.750 --> 00:58:08.360 there's also prohibitions on disconnection 00:58:11.210 --> 00:58:14.590 if they are enrolled in this plan and continue to make 00:58:14.590 --> 00:58:17.500 payments in this plan and can only be disconnected 00:58:17.500 --> 00:58:20.870 if they haven't made a payments under the new plan 00:58:20.870 --> 00:58:24.573 for three months so next slide. 00:58:25.820 --> 00:58:29.360 Ed I just wanted to maybe do a friendly amendment there. 00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:31.990 I think you were on the side of what was in place for the 00:58:31.990 --> 00:58:36.990 previous disconnections order in June of 2020, 00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:42.920 and this COVID protection in 24 months, either defaulted, 00:58:43.820 --> 00:58:47.580 into they have been defaulted except for the extension 00:58:47.580 --> 00:58:48.673 to a 24-month plan. 00:58:49.680 --> 00:58:51.300 Yep thank you. 00:58:51.300 --> 00:58:54.260 That's why I was confused at the slide I was looking at. 00:58:54.260 --> 00:58:55.160 I appreciate that. 00:58:56.350 --> 00:58:58.733 So now we are on the right slide for, 00:59:00.271 --> 00:59:02.290 the COVID protection plan 00:59:02.290 --> 00:59:07.080 and as I've, as I said, yeah, this is for customers, 00:59:07.080 --> 00:59:11.763 residential and small business customers who have unpaid 00:59:12.810 --> 00:59:17.810 bills at 60 days or more as of the 30th of September 00:59:18.950 --> 00:59:21.830 of this year, they're enrolled on a 20 months, 00:59:21.830 --> 00:59:23.520 24 month payment plan 00:59:24.930 --> 00:59:27.727 and there are the additional prohibitions 00:59:33.590 --> 00:59:36.620 on disconnect for the customers in a role in these plans 00:59:38.420 --> 00:59:41.206 until and unless they've missed up to three months 00:59:41.206 --> 00:59:42.350 of the payments, 00:59:42.350 --> 00:59:47.100 and then you can use the capitalistic model for any the CAPP 00:59:47.100 --> 00:59:49.180 money for those eligible customers 00:59:49.180 --> 00:59:51.090 to also help pay down these bills. 00:59:51.090 --> 00:59:52.033 Next slide please. 00:59:58.220 --> 01:00:03.080 And this is a list of non-CPUC programs that are also out 01:00:03.080 --> 01:00:08.080 there to help with energy assistance programs for folks that 01:00:09.290 --> 01:00:11.980 need the additional assistance out there 01:00:11.980 --> 01:00:14.513 and I think this is the last slide next slide. 01:00:18.420 --> 01:00:21.100 Yeah and I won't go through these specific examples, 01:00:21.100 --> 01:00:22.020 they're good illustrative, 01:00:22.020 --> 01:00:26.480 examples of customers under different situations 01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:31.470 and how they might be impacted by these programs 01:00:31.470 --> 01:00:33.350 kind of on a broad sense. 01:00:33.350 --> 01:00:38.350 You have a customer who couldn't pay their bill 01:00:40.550 --> 01:00:44.820 from August to November in the last year 01:00:44.820 --> 01:00:46.863 and has an unpaid balance of $500. 01:00:50.830 --> 01:00:53.750 Should be automatically enrolled in the COVID 01:00:54.623 --> 01:00:56.430 arrearage management program 01:00:57.323 --> 01:00:59.990 and that would bring what she owes per month for that past 01:00:59.990 --> 01:01:04.990 usage to $17 a month out there, a care customer, 01:01:05.750 --> 01:01:10.750 it has $1,200 in unpaid bills can be enrolled 01:01:13.344 --> 01:01:15.660 and the AMP program 01:01:16.640 --> 01:01:19.650 and as each month that they're paying down that bill they'll 01:01:19.650 --> 01:01:22.570 have $100 forgiven off that bill. 01:01:22.570 --> 01:01:23.840 That's also, 01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:27.293 if that customer is not enrolled in the CAP program, 01:01:28.350 --> 01:01:30.560 and then, you have a small business 01:01:31.790 --> 01:01:34.273 that has $4,000 in unpaid bills, 01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:39.420 they could be enrolled in the program where ultimately 01:01:39.420 --> 01:01:44.170 they'll need to only pay $133 a month over the period to 01:01:44.170 --> 01:01:47.290 meet their, to pay down their bills 01:01:47.290 --> 01:01:48.720 and then more important to you 01:01:48.720 --> 01:01:50.680 if you're still trying to figure out how to show a graph 01:01:50.680 --> 01:01:52.143 that shows all of this, 01:01:53.850 --> 01:01:55.670 there is almost no customer, 01:01:55.670 --> 01:01:58.240 there's no residential customer out there 01:01:58.240 --> 01:02:03.240 who when the moratorium was lifted last week, 01:02:06.120 --> 01:02:09.630 who would actually be subject to a disconnection 01:02:09.630 --> 01:02:14.570 immediately, the overlay of all of these programs in 01:02:14.570 --> 01:02:18.970 the periods and the requirements on the utilities, 01:02:18.970 --> 01:02:21.810 to not disconnect customers 01:02:21.810 --> 01:02:23.780 who were actively participating in 01:02:23.780 --> 01:02:26.760 these programs and paying down their bills 01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:27.940 mean at the earliest, 01:02:27.940 --> 01:02:30.490 somebody could be disconnected would be the 01:02:30.490 --> 01:02:33.250 end of this year, early next year. 01:02:33.250 --> 01:02:35.720 But as long as the customers are paying the minimum 01:02:35.720 --> 01:02:38.643 amount in, arrearage management programs, 01:02:39.500 --> 01:02:41.380 they will not be disconnected 01:02:41.380 --> 01:02:43.763 and with that, I'm available for questions. 01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:52.610 Are there any questions of Ed or Rachel 01:02:52.610 --> 01:02:54.343 from the earlier presentation? 01:02:56.880 --> 01:02:59.883 Okay yes Commissioner Shiroma. 01:03:01.650 --> 01:03:05.270 Not a question, but a kudos. 01:03:05.270 --> 01:03:09.667 When you think about March of 2020, and 01:03:11.910 --> 01:03:16.140 the teams that kicked into gear immediately, 01:03:16.140 --> 01:03:21.140 as Ed said with really not skipping a beat in looking at 01:03:21.300 --> 01:03:26.300 keeping our work on pace and looking at what needs to be 01:03:27.050 --> 01:03:31.670 done, to provide core relief for residential commercial, 01:03:31.670 --> 01:03:36.570 for the energy savings workers 01:03:37.820 --> 01:03:39.910 towards navigating the pandemic. 01:03:39.910 --> 01:03:44.470 It really is a testimonial to that the CPUC 01:03:45.930 --> 01:03:49.573 and the utilities that they regulate, 01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:54.380 can do things pretty quickly. 01:03:54.380 --> 01:03:59.380 We as state government, oftentimes are painted with, 01:04:01.160 --> 01:04:04.410 the review that we are are very slow, 01:04:04.410 --> 01:04:07.740 that we move into snail space was this presentation today 01:04:07.740 --> 01:04:08.993 really shows that, 01:04:11.705 --> 01:04:14.470 when there is that when there are issues 01:04:14.470 --> 01:04:17.830 right at our doorstep, we stand ready to address them. 01:04:17.830 --> 01:04:21.100 So thank you and the work continues 01:04:21.100 --> 01:04:24.000 and we have a lot more to do so thank you very much 01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:25.273 for the presentation. 01:04:26.230 --> 01:04:27.800 Thank you President Batjer. 01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:28.660 Yes thank you. 01:04:28.660 --> 01:04:30.267 Yes Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:04:31.340 --> 01:04:33.807 Yes thank you very much for the work 01:04:33.807 --> 01:04:36.690 and I know all of our divisions have been doing just such 01:04:36.690 --> 01:04:38.563 tremendous work during this time, 01:04:39.508 --> 01:04:43.850 just to acknowledge that the worker's gonna continue as 01:04:43.850 --> 01:04:45.524 Ed pointed out here. 01:04:45.524 --> 01:04:50.524 There's, if we're lucky we're gonna have the CSD funding, 01:04:51.110 --> 01:04:55.010 perhaps cover half of the debt, that it has a crude 01:04:56.010 --> 01:04:59.820 and so we're still gonna need more work together with 01:04:59.820 --> 01:05:02.360 our customers and our utilities 01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:05.650 and I hope that we can retain the collaborative approach 01:05:05.650 --> 01:05:09.521 that's been taking place with utilities and their customers 01:05:09.521 --> 01:05:12.253 and without the tool of disconnection. 01:05:13.300 --> 01:05:18.300 So this will be a new phase of how to maybe maintain a less 01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:23.923 punitive approach to getting customers back on track. 01:05:25.190 --> 01:05:27.510 So I wanted to just acknowledge that 01:05:27.510 --> 01:05:30.480 and also in the COVID proceeding, 01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:34.190 we still have issues that we are looking at. 01:05:34.190 --> 01:05:38.730 Obviously the remaining arrears is one of those issues, 01:05:38.730 --> 01:05:42.670 but also a more timely issue that we're looking at that 01:05:42.670 --> 01:05:46.360 recently came up at the IOB last week again, 01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:51.290 is this issue of having the tools to work with customers, 01:05:51.290 --> 01:05:53.840 more of a case management approach 01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:56.100 and as we heard today in our, 01:05:56.100 --> 01:05:58.110 a little bit of confusion on the default 01:05:58.110 --> 01:05:59.640 of the payment plans, 01:05:59.640 --> 01:06:03.500 just as an example that we have put in a lot of protections 01:06:03.500 --> 01:06:07.322 and options in place that they're really individualized 01:06:07.322 --> 01:06:12.322 and so we need a closer approach to our customers. 01:06:13.470 --> 01:06:18.380 So I hope to be developing that soon with the help of the 01:06:18.380 --> 01:06:21.372 energy division and with the help of our 01:06:21.372 --> 01:06:22.480 Stephanie Greenshop 01:06:23.560 --> 01:06:25.280 and just wanted to highlight that 01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:29.610 and really acknowledged just the continued work 01:06:29.610 --> 01:06:31.650 that's gonna be happening, 01:06:31.650 --> 01:06:34.363 especially as we start to face this reality, 01:06:35.268 --> 01:06:39.397 of disconnections looming again thank you. 01:06:42.900 --> 01:06:44.223 Yes Commissioner Houck. 01:06:45.380 --> 01:06:47.190 Just briefly I just wanted to thank, 01:06:47.190 --> 01:06:50.870 Ed and the staff for all their work on this proceeding, 01:06:50.870 --> 01:06:53.000 as the assigned Commissioner on the disconnections 01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:56.430 proceeding and decade with Commissioner Guzman Aceves 01:06:56.430 --> 01:06:59.925 on the arrearages I know firsthand how hard staff 01:06:59.925 --> 01:07:01.963 has been working in there. 01:07:02.861 --> 01:07:04.280 There's still work to do clearly 01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:06.340 as Commissioner Guzman Aceves said, 01:07:06.340 --> 01:07:09.500 that I really wanted to commend staff for how intelligent 01:07:09.500 --> 01:07:13.664 they've been in stepping up in such a unique 01:07:13.664 --> 01:07:17.007 and difficult circumstance so thank you. 01:07:19.305 --> 01:07:20.638 Thank you okay 01:07:22.770 --> 01:07:26.470 I wanna add my thanks of course, to the energy Commission, 01:07:26.470 --> 01:07:30.347 staff and energy division staff, excuse me 01:07:30.347 --> 01:07:35.250 and also thank you for your leadership, 01:07:35.250 --> 01:07:36.600 Commissioner Guzman Aceves, 01:07:39.230 --> 01:07:40.780 you have done along with Commissioner Houck, 01:07:40.780 --> 01:07:44.090 a terrific job on these proceedings, 01:07:44.090 --> 01:07:46.190 not only being a thought leader, 01:07:46.190 --> 01:07:50.040 but being a kind hearted thought leader and how we needed to 01:07:50.040 --> 01:07:51.700 deal with these very difficult things. 01:07:51.700 --> 01:07:52.850 So thank you, Ed. 01:07:52.850 --> 01:07:54.480 Thank you for your team. 01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:56.260 Thank you, Rachel Peterson 01:07:56.260 --> 01:07:58.750 for your wonderful leadership as well. 01:07:58.750 --> 01:08:01.160 I appreciate it all very, very much. 01:08:01.160 --> 01:08:05.593 Okay we will now move on in the agenda. 01:08:07.990 --> 01:08:12.990 First I would like to read the changes in today's agenda. 01:08:17.750 --> 01:08:21.250 So item number three will be held 01:08:21.250 --> 01:08:26.000 until October 21st, 2021 Commission meeting, 01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:29.640 item number six will also be held until 01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:34.060 October 21, 2021 Commission meeting. 01:08:34.060 --> 01:08:39.060 Item 12 will be held until October 21, 2021 meeting, 01:08:40.320 --> 01:08:42.840 item 13 will be held also 01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:47.087 until October 21st, 2021 Commission meeting 01:08:47.087 --> 01:08:52.087 and item 27 will be taken up with the Consent Agenda. 01:08:53.830 --> 01:08:55.590 Item number three, 01:08:55.590 --> 01:08:59.720 on today's meeting agenda was subject to a rate setting, 01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:04.600 deliberative meetings an RDM and a hold to the 01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:08.580 October 21st voting meeting was as been requested and 01:09:08.580 --> 01:09:11.520 granted as I just remarked. 01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:13.873 As a result of this item, 01:09:15.228 --> 01:09:18.880 as a result decided will be subject to a default 01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:20.860 ex-parte quiet period, 01:09:20.860 --> 01:09:25.860 pursuant to public utilities code section 1701.3H6 01:09:29.040 --> 01:09:32.050 This item may be subject to additional quiet time, 01:09:32.050 --> 01:09:35.933 If the Commission chooses to extend the default quiet time. 01:09:37.610 --> 01:09:42.040 The default quiet time is as follows, no oral 01:09:42.040 --> 01:09:44.540 or written ex-parte communications 01:09:44.540 --> 01:09:48.540 will be allowed from October 4th, 2021 01:09:48.540 --> 01:09:53.540 to the end of the October 7th, 2021 voting meeting, 01:09:54.480 --> 01:09:59.020 no oral or written ex-parte communications will be allowed 01:09:59.020 --> 01:10:03.430 starting October 18th, 2021 to the end of 01:10:03.430 --> 01:10:07.900 October 21st, 2021 voting meeting. 01:10:07.900 --> 01:10:10.860 If the Commission establishes additional quiet time 01:10:10.860 --> 01:10:12.210 for this item, 01:10:12.210 --> 01:10:16.220 oral or written ex-parte communications will be restricted 01:10:16.220 --> 01:10:19.083 during that additional quiet time. 01:10:19.980 --> 01:10:21.850 If this item is held again, 01:10:21.850 --> 01:10:24.720 the Commission will continue to have the ability to 01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:29.533 establish further ex-parte quiet periods. 01:10:31.260 --> 01:10:36.260 Okay with that, we will then take up the consent items. 01:10:36.410 --> 01:10:38.283 Is there a motion? 01:10:40.040 --> 01:10:41.610 So moved. 01:10:41.610 --> 01:10:45.643 Okay and second has been moved and seconded. 01:10:46.888 --> 01:10:48.510 We'll move the agenda clerk, 01:10:48.510 --> 01:10:51.763 please call the role on the consent items. 01:10:53.910 --> 01:10:54.960 Commissioner Houck. 01:10:57.690 --> 01:10:58.523 Yes. 01:10:59.767 --> 01:11:01.700 Commissioner Shiroma. 01:11:01.700 --> 01:11:02.533 Aye. 01:11:03.900 --> 01:11:06.270 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:11:06.270 --> 01:11:07.103 Yes. 01:11:08.030 --> 01:11:09.898 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:11:09.898 --> 01:11:10.731 Aye. 01:11:12.099 --> 01:11:13.759 President Batjer. 01:11:13.759 --> 01:11:14.592 Aye. 01:11:14.592 --> 01:11:17.270 The Consent Agenda items have been passed unanimously. 01:11:17.270 --> 01:11:18.103 Thank you. 01:11:19.157 --> 01:11:22.193 We will now take up the regular agenda items. 01:11:23.770 --> 01:11:27.563 Item number 22 is assigned to Commission Houck. 01:11:29.730 --> 01:11:31.230 Thank you, President Batjer. 01:11:32.130 --> 01:11:34.630 So prior to my assignment to this proceeding, 01:11:34.630 --> 01:11:36.912 I just wanna note that a tremendous amount of work went 01:11:36.912 --> 01:11:39.700 into the development of the mechanisms 01:11:39.700 --> 01:11:42.290 to minimize customer disconnections. 01:11:42.290 --> 01:11:45.930 Staff has worked hard to meet the mandates of SB 598 to 01:11:45.930 --> 01:11:49.600 protect rate payers from disconnections as evidenced by the 01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:51.940 phase one decision from June of last year, 01:11:51.940 --> 01:11:56.940 which was referenced by Ed Randolph in the presentation 01:11:58.300 --> 01:11:59.370 that we just heard 01:11:59.370 --> 01:12:02.710 and as well as the proposed decision before us today, 01:12:02.710 --> 01:12:07.100 I'd like to thank the assigned judge, judge Wang for all of 01:12:07.100 --> 01:12:08.920 her great work on this proceeding, 01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:12.260 energy division staff Ben Menzies and Paul Phillips 01:12:12.260 --> 01:12:14.180 and legal divisions, Christopher Cho 01:12:14.180 --> 01:12:16.410 for prioritizing this matter, 01:12:16.410 --> 01:12:19.210 as well as Sarah Thomas and legal division and judge 01:12:19.210 --> 01:12:22.500 Gerald Kelly for their work earlier in the proceeding. 01:12:22.500 --> 01:12:26.300 I also wanna thank my advisors McBrown and Kathleen Yips 01:12:26.300 --> 01:12:29.080 for all of their work in support of the PD 01:12:29.080 --> 01:12:32.730 and I wanna particularly thank and recognize the 01:12:32.730 --> 01:12:35.850 leadership of my BK partner, Commissioner Guzman Aceves, 01:12:35.850 --> 01:12:39.200 and her office for all of the contributions to this 01:12:39.200 --> 01:12:44.200 proceeding and for all of their creativity and being able to 01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:49.260 hand off something to me that was already in process. 01:12:49.260 --> 01:12:53.110 This order instituting rulemaking was open to address 01:12:53.110 --> 01:12:56.190 disconnection rates across California's electric and gas 01:12:56.190 --> 01:12:57.980 investor owned utilities. 01:12:57.980 --> 01:13:01.330 The proposed decision if approved creates a pilot program 01:13:01.330 --> 01:13:04.450 that will result in reduction of disconnections and improve 01:13:04.450 --> 01:13:08.710 reconnection processes and outcomes for customers at risk. 01:13:08.710 --> 01:13:11.120 As set forth in the order of the ramifications of 01:13:11.120 --> 01:13:13.720 disconnections for customers can be far reaching, 01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:16.680 including disruption of normal daily activities. 01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:20.070 Energy access is critical to economic and social stability 01:13:20.070 --> 01:13:23.260 and wellbeing even after a customer's paid their balance 01:13:23.260 --> 01:13:24.680 the reconnection process, 01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:27.430 particularly for gas service can be time consuming 01:13:27.430 --> 01:13:31.060 and costly disconnection rates and the years proceeding, 01:13:31.060 --> 01:13:32.640 the pandemic were increasing, 01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:35.190 which resulted in the adoption of this OIR in 2018, 01:13:36.820 --> 01:13:40.010 COVID-19 has greatly increased the number of customers that 01:13:40.010 --> 01:13:42.390 are unable to pay their electric and gas bills, 01:13:42.390 --> 01:13:45.410 and may still be at risk of disconnections without programs 01:13:45.410 --> 01:13:48.280 such as AMPs and the proposed programs set forth 01:13:48.280 --> 01:13:52.300 in this PD, but proposed decision directs, 01:13:52.300 --> 01:13:55.050 PG&E, SCG&E, SCE and SoCalGas 01:13:56.550 --> 01:13:59.210 to implement percentage of income payment plans 01:13:59.210 --> 01:14:03.140 or PIP pilot programs to help reduce residential 01:14:03.140 --> 01:14:06.160 disconnections of electric and gas service. 01:14:06.160 --> 01:14:09.090 PIP is a program that says the participants utility bill 01:14:09.090 --> 01:14:11.190 payment amounts in an affordable 01:14:11.190 --> 01:14:13.680 of the participants monthly income. 01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:15.930 Participants will receive a monthly bill CAPP 01:14:15.930 --> 01:14:16.900 for current charges 01:14:16.900 --> 01:14:20.070 based on 4% of their household monthly income. 01:14:20.070 --> 01:14:22.850 Customers of the large IOUs and participating 01:14:22.850 --> 01:14:26.450 CPAs who enrolled in the care program 01:14:26.450 --> 01:14:27.970 are eligible for the pilots, 01:14:27.970 --> 01:14:30.810 if they are located in good codes with the highest rates of 01:14:30.810 --> 01:14:34.240 disconnections or were disconnected two or more times during 01:14:34.240 --> 01:14:38.130 the 12 months prior to the disconnection moratorium, 01:14:38.130 --> 01:14:40.830 these are four year pilots and we'll test whether a PIP 01:14:40.830 --> 01:14:43.560 program can reduce the number of low-income households 01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:45.310 at risk of disconnection, 01:14:45.310 --> 01:14:47.600 encourage participation in energy savings 01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:49.710 and energy management programs, 01:14:49.710 --> 01:14:51.710 increase access to essential levels of 01:14:51.710 --> 01:14:54.920 energy service and control program costs. 01:14:54.920 --> 01:14:57.520 This program was initially envisioned and developed 01:14:57.520 --> 01:14:59.770 by my BK partner, Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:15:00.610 --> 01:15:01.840 Commissioner Guzman Aceves 01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:04.210 and her office have worked closely with my office 01:15:04.210 --> 01:15:06.790 on finalizing this PD and again, 01:15:06.790 --> 01:15:10.360 I want to thank her for all of the work that she's done in 01:15:10.360 --> 01:15:13.140 this proceeding and would like to ask her to provide further 01:15:13.140 --> 01:15:15.293 comments and background on this item. 01:15:27.080 --> 01:15:28.910 Yes thank you. 01:15:28.910 --> 01:15:31.280 Thank you Commissioner Houck. 01:15:31.280 --> 01:15:33.000 It's really nice to see 01:15:34.860 --> 01:15:38.000 this is the benefit of democracy and having new voices and 01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:43.000 new visions, taking over ideas and making them better 01:15:43.250 --> 01:15:45.730 and I wanna thank Mr. Houck for that 01:15:45.730 --> 01:15:49.760 and certainly Judge Wang and all the energy division staff 01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:51.858 that has done just that. 01:15:51.858 --> 01:15:56.858 I do also wanna thank really the community organizations 01:15:57.160 --> 01:15:58.810 that brought this concept forward 01:15:59.910 --> 01:16:03.020 and like some of our other areas, 01:16:03.020 --> 01:16:06.939 this is another area that California is not leading on, 01:16:06.939 --> 01:16:10.770 many states that have utilities that offer these programs 01:16:10.770 --> 01:16:14.780 and have offered them for some time, Colorado, Illinois, 01:16:14.780 --> 01:16:18.710 Nevada, and New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania, to name a few. 01:16:18.710 --> 01:16:21.770 I know there's much more in the Northeast and really it's 01:16:21.770 --> 01:16:25.100 the recognition that there are a subset of customers 01:16:25.100 --> 01:16:27.900 that are extremely low income. 01:16:27.900 --> 01:16:30.250 Some of the demographics of the other states have shown that 01:16:30.250 --> 01:16:32.860 they're usually elderly customers, 01:16:32.860 --> 01:16:35.120 very limited fixed income, 01:16:35.120 --> 01:16:37.570 and they simply cannot afford to pay. 01:16:37.570 --> 01:16:40.010 They do not have the disposable income. 01:16:40.010 --> 01:16:43.260 They can't afford to pay for the entirety of their bills 01:16:43.260 --> 01:16:45.331 and this is a dynamic that, 01:16:45.331 --> 01:16:48.763 the hypothesis of this whole pilot is that, 01:16:50.570 --> 01:16:54.100 we had an unfortunate situation is most likely prevalent in 01:16:54.100 --> 01:16:58.550 extreme heat areas with these elderly customers. 01:16:58.550 --> 01:17:00.200 So I'm very excited to be finally 01:17:01.559 --> 01:17:05.770 pushing this load out today with great enthusiasm, 01:17:05.770 --> 01:17:09.190 as we see the extreme heat that continues to grow 01:17:09.190 --> 01:17:14.010 and the sub-population that as Commissioner Houck mentioned, 01:17:14.010 --> 01:17:17.657 has been dealing with disconnections in a chronic way, 01:17:17.657 --> 01:17:20.750 and really another identification of them being 01:17:20.750 --> 01:17:23.193 a subset of customers that is, 01:17:23.193 --> 01:17:25.743 that should be targeted for this type of program. 01:17:26.930 --> 01:17:30.190 And I want to just highlight that having these fresh eyes on 01:17:30.190 --> 01:17:33.830 this proposal allowed us to really incorporate other 01:17:33.830 --> 01:17:37.040 proceedings work such as the affordability proceedings, 01:17:37.040 --> 01:17:41.090 as well as just looking at some of the results from the more 01:17:41.090 --> 01:17:45.083 recent findings of customers dealing with disconnection. 01:17:45.950 --> 01:17:46.783 So one, 01:17:46.783 --> 01:17:51.290 I really think judge Wang and energy division Ben Menzies 01:17:51.290 --> 01:17:53.250 and Paul Phillips for their work on that 01:17:53.250 --> 01:17:55.570 and of course, as Commissioner Houck mentioned, 01:17:55.570 --> 01:17:59.780 I wanna thank, work that brought this about in particular, 01:17:59.780 --> 01:18:01.870 I wanna recognize the Administrative Law Judge, 01:18:01.870 --> 01:18:03.240 Gerald Kelly, 01:18:03.240 --> 01:18:08.240 that put in a few years into this proceeding and just really 01:18:08.700 --> 01:18:11.828 led in the innovation and hearing from communities 01:18:11.828 --> 01:18:16.120 and doing the extra work on our end to take their ideas, 01:18:16.120 --> 01:18:18.180 build it into making a ruling 01:18:18.180 --> 01:18:19.740 and putting it into the record. 01:18:19.740 --> 01:18:21.960 Things that some of these organizations don't have the 01:18:21.960 --> 01:18:23.540 capacity to do. 01:18:23.540 --> 01:18:25.684 So I want to thank him for that. 01:18:25.684 --> 01:18:26.517 I also wanna thank 01:18:26.517 --> 01:18:29.890 my former chiefs of staff Adenika Adeyeye, 01:18:29.890 --> 01:18:32.860 who really did most of the drafting of this 01:18:32.860 --> 01:18:35.150 looking at all these state's programs, 01:18:35.150 --> 01:18:37.320 looking at all the comments from the stakeholders 01:18:37.320 --> 01:18:40.910 and the parties and putting the first proposal together 01:18:40.910 --> 01:18:42.730 over a year ago. 01:18:42.730 --> 01:18:47.540 So, and then of course my current advisor on this topic, 01:18:47.540 --> 01:18:51.960 Justin Fong, who has been just incredible 01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:53.940 to try to manage all of these issues, 01:18:53.940 --> 01:18:56.870 dealing with COVID years in particular, 01:18:56.870 --> 01:18:59.280 in all of these great solutions. 01:18:59.280 --> 01:19:02.000 So thank you Commissioner Houck for your leadership in 01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:05.510 getting this across and to your staff, Kathleen Yip, 01:19:05.510 --> 01:19:06.840 and everyone that you mentioned, 01:19:06.840 --> 01:19:08.503 including Christopher Shel. 01:19:09.380 --> 01:19:11.830 Thank you very much I look forward to supporting. 01:19:13.760 --> 01:19:17.753 Thank you any other yes Commissioner Shiroma. 01:19:19.530 --> 01:19:21.280 Yes thank you President Batjer. 01:19:21.280 --> 01:19:23.640 I support this proposed decision 01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:27.480 thank you Commissioner Houck, Commissioner Guzman Aceves 01:19:27.480 --> 01:19:32.013 there's Wang and the team in designing this PIP pilot, 01:19:33.080 --> 01:19:36.130 it will advance our knowledge and tools 01:19:36.130 --> 01:19:39.740 towards providing stable bills and peace of mind. 01:19:39.740 --> 01:19:44.220 I really appreciate too the PD speaking 01:19:44.220 --> 01:19:47.610 to close coordination between this pilot 01:19:47.610 --> 01:19:51.250 and the ISA and lyheep programs 01:19:51.250 --> 01:19:55.470 towards really linking up those synergies. 01:19:55.470 --> 01:19:56.870 Again thank you. 01:19:56.870 --> 01:20:00.333 I look forward to supporting this proposed decision. 01:20:02.246 --> 01:20:05.950 Thank you yes Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:20:05.950 --> 01:20:07.300 Thank you (clears throat) excuse me. 01:20:07.300 --> 01:20:11.690 I wanna echo the thanks and appreciation for everyone who 01:20:11.690 --> 01:20:16.010 worked on this and in particular Commissioners Houck, 01:20:16.010 --> 01:20:19.040 and Guzman Aceves, judge Wang, 01:20:19.040 --> 01:20:21.690 and then these Paul Phillips and others. 01:20:21.690 --> 01:20:26.460 It's a very creative program is innovative, 01:20:26.460 --> 01:20:29.280 even though as Commissioner Guzman says points out, 01:20:29.280 --> 01:20:30.580 there are a number of other states 01:20:30.580 --> 01:20:34.150 that have adopted similar programs. 01:20:34.150 --> 01:20:36.900 Without belaboring the points that have already made 01:20:36.900 --> 01:20:41.400 it is very important to note that this is a problem 01:20:41.400 --> 01:20:45.400 that predates the pandemic, too many utility, 01:20:45.400 --> 01:20:49.180 too many of our customers struggle to afford their utility 01:20:49.180 --> 01:20:52.601 bills and face this connection as a result 01:20:52.601 --> 01:20:56.890 and this is despite the fact that we have very generous 01:20:56.890 --> 01:21:00.360 and well subscribed consumer subsidy programs. 01:21:00.360 --> 01:21:04.540 There are still people falling through the cracks. 01:21:04.540 --> 01:21:07.763 This was made very clear in the Commissions, 01:21:07.763 --> 01:21:12.120 relatively recent affordability report, 01:21:12.120 --> 01:21:16.290 where we highlighted some of the hardships that are lower 01:21:16.290 --> 01:21:20.470 income rate payers states the kind of customers 01:21:20.470 --> 01:21:22.540 that Commissioner Guzman Aceves mentioned 01:21:22.540 --> 01:21:25.380 and just for example, 01:21:25.380 --> 01:21:30.380 we found that 13% of lower income households spend more than 01:21:30.450 --> 01:21:35.450 15% of their disposable income on electricity, 01:21:36.940 --> 01:21:40.540 11% pay over a third of their disposable income on 01:21:40.540 --> 01:21:42.170 utility services. 01:21:42.170 --> 01:21:46.210 So there are real hardships that people face. 01:21:46.210 --> 01:21:50.910 This is an excellent compliment to the many programs, 01:21:50.910 --> 01:21:53.990 including the loan, forgiveness arrearage management program 01:21:53.990 --> 01:21:57.730 that director Randolph talked about. 01:21:57.730 --> 01:22:01.820 We hopefully with the pilot customers will 01:22:01.820 --> 01:22:03.440 not just see lower bill, 01:22:03.440 --> 01:22:08.430 but reduce this connection fewer missed this payment. 01:22:08.430 --> 01:22:13.430 So I'm very happy to support this and appreciative of all 01:22:13.580 --> 01:22:16.503 the work that was done to get it ready, thank you. 01:22:18.300 --> 01:22:20.783 Thank you, any other comments? 01:22:21.900 --> 01:22:24.300 Okay seeing none will the agenda clerk 01:22:24.300 --> 01:22:26.603 please call the roll for item 22. 01:22:27.740 --> 01:22:28.790 Commissioner Houck. 01:22:30.517 --> 01:22:31.350 Yes. 01:22:32.981 --> 01:22:34.780 Commissioner Shiroma. 01:22:34.780 --> 01:22:35.613 Aye. 01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:38.410 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:22:38.410 --> 01:22:39.990 Yes. 01:22:39.990 --> 01:22:41.440 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:22:42.561 --> 01:22:43.394 Aye. 01:22:44.285 --> 01:22:46.073 President Batjer. 01:22:46.073 --> 01:22:47.120 Aye. 01:22:47.120 --> 01:22:50.690 The item number 22 passes unanimously. 01:22:50.690 --> 01:22:53.020 Thank you for all the hard work, 01:22:53.020 --> 01:22:56.303 on this to all staff and Commissioners. 01:22:57.323 --> 01:22:59.010 Item 23 is assigned to me and it says 01:23:01.780 --> 01:23:04.060 the Order Instituting Rulemaking OIR 01:23:06.240 --> 01:23:09.450 to develop safety culture assessments for the electric 01:23:09.450 --> 01:23:11.410 and natural gas utilities. 01:23:11.410 --> 01:23:15.630 The OIR will implement requirements of the state law 01:23:15.630 --> 01:23:17.770 and build upon Commission rulings, 01:23:17.770 --> 01:23:20.763 directing us to strive for greater utility safety. 01:23:21.880 --> 01:23:26.360 The OIR will help us do this by developing and adopting a 01:23:26.360 --> 01:23:30.500 safety culture assessment framework for regulated investor 01:23:30.500 --> 01:23:35.080 owned utilities, Senate bill 901, 01:23:35.080 --> 01:23:38.540 directed the Commission to establish a safety culture 01:23:38.540 --> 01:23:42.260 assessment for each electrical corporation conducted by an 01:23:42.260 --> 01:23:44.960 independent third party evaluator. 01:23:44.960 --> 01:23:47.760 SB 901 also required 01:23:47.760 --> 01:23:51.180 that the Commission set a schedule for each assessment, 01:23:51.180 --> 01:23:53.770 including updates to the assessment, 01:23:53.770 --> 01:23:56.400 at least every five years. 01:23:56.400 --> 01:23:59.750 Additionally, it prohibits the electrical corporations 01:23:59.750 --> 01:24:01.310 from seeking reimbursement 01:24:01.310 --> 01:24:04.160 for the cost of the safety culture assessment 01:24:04.160 --> 01:24:05.550 from rate payers. 01:24:05.550 --> 01:24:07.980 The Commission will utilize this proceeding 01:24:07.980 --> 01:24:11.029 to effectively implement SB 901, 01:24:11.029 --> 01:24:14.770 any relevant public utility code sections, 01:24:14.770 --> 01:24:18.960 which direct the Commission and each natural gas corporation 01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:22.410 to make safety of the public and gas corporation employees 01:24:22.410 --> 01:24:24.610 the top priority. 01:24:24.610 --> 01:24:27.050 Safety culture is an organization's 01:24:27.050 --> 01:24:29.670 values, principles, beliefs, 01:24:29.670 --> 01:24:33.820 and norms shared by individuals within the organization, 01:24:33.820 --> 01:24:38.250 manifested through their planning, behaviors and actions. 01:24:38.250 --> 01:24:41.600 It shows how all members of an organization work towards 01:24:41.600 --> 01:24:43.980 safe operations on a daily basis, 01:24:43.980 --> 01:24:47.960 and how that translates into safety outcomes. 01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:52.730 To be effective safety culture requires ongoing review 01:24:52.730 --> 01:24:54.130 and refinement. 01:24:54.130 --> 01:24:57.820 This OIR will allow us to build upon past efforts and 01:24:57.820 --> 01:25:01.700 improve upon safety culture of the utilities 01:25:01.700 --> 01:25:06.700 under our jurisdiction, all large electrical corporations, 01:25:07.330 --> 01:25:10.920 small multi-jurisdictional electrical corporations, 01:25:10.920 --> 01:25:15.620 large natural gas corporations and gas storage operators 01:25:15.620 --> 01:25:20.070 regulated by the Commission will be required to conduct 01:25:20.070 --> 01:25:22.220 safety culture assessment 01:25:22.220 --> 01:25:25.683 and this OIR will determine their scope and schedule. 01:25:26.520 --> 01:25:30.840 Emission of the CPUC is to ensure that consumers have safe, 01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:34.393 reliable utility services at reasonable rates. 01:25:35.420 --> 01:25:39.070 This OIR will help us fulfill that mission by requiring 01:25:39.070 --> 01:25:42.640 utilities to proactively prioritize safety, 01:25:42.640 --> 01:25:44.053 to better serve the public. 01:25:44.980 --> 01:25:48.190 I would like to thank all of the CPUC staff who worked so 01:25:48.190 --> 01:25:53.190 diligently on drafting this OIR from the ALJ division, 01:25:53.690 --> 01:25:56.800 Colin Rizzo from the safety policy division, 01:25:56.800 --> 01:26:01.570 Dan Baut, Benjamin Turner, Zava Gree, Emma Johnson, Ken Cost 01:26:03.878 --> 01:26:07.970 Carolina Van Peres, Alex Penida and Rich White 01:26:09.400 --> 01:26:11.360 from the legal division, 01:26:11.360 --> 01:26:15.360 Jaylen Lemay, and from my own office, my chief of staff, 01:26:15.360 --> 01:26:19.373 Shannon O'Rourke and my advisor, Nico Churchill, 01:26:20.380 --> 01:26:21.840 Shell, excuse me. 01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:23.790 I would like to ask, of course, 01:26:23.790 --> 01:26:28.790 all of your support for this OIR thank you. 01:26:29.007 --> 01:26:31.173 Are there any questions or comments? 01:26:33.370 --> 01:26:35.963 Yes Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:26:37.290 --> 01:26:39.473 Thank you, President Batjer. 01:26:39.473 --> 01:26:43.880 This is an important rulemaking to set standards and 01:26:43.880 --> 01:26:48.380 expectations to institutionalize safety culture assessment 01:26:48.380 --> 01:26:49.543 for our utilities. 01:26:51.030 --> 01:26:54.460 Safety culture is it's inherently 01:26:54.460 --> 01:26:56.560 difficult to evaluate, 01:26:56.560 --> 01:27:00.423 to monitor over time to know exactly what's being done. 01:27:01.410 --> 01:27:05.250 Establishing best practices for industries is very, 01:27:05.250 --> 01:27:06.623 very good policy. 01:27:07.462 --> 01:27:10.310 As the rulemaking notes 01:27:10.310 --> 01:27:14.320 we have a good foundation in place right now already. 01:27:14.320 --> 01:27:19.230 We have ongoing safety, cultural assessments of PG&E, 01:27:19.230 --> 01:27:21.543 as well as SoCalGas and Sempra, 01:27:22.560 --> 01:27:26.890 as well as the framework developed by our colleagues at the 01:27:26.890 --> 01:27:30.980 office of energy infrastructure safety. 01:27:30.980 --> 01:27:33.810 I just wanna mention in terms of the process, 01:27:33.810 --> 01:27:38.401 I agree with the recommendation to use workshops and staff 01:27:38.401 --> 01:27:43.401 proposal to develop the overall safety culture framework. 01:27:45.300 --> 01:27:47.730 We early on in 2019, 01:27:47.730 --> 01:27:51.690 we had a very informative workshop when we were examining 01:27:51.690 --> 01:27:55.730 what kind of safety culture and safety approaches we should 01:27:55.730 --> 01:27:57.710 use with respect to PG&E. 01:27:57.710 --> 01:27:59.110 We had outside experts in 01:27:59.110 --> 01:28:02.470 and learned a great deal from that. 01:28:02.470 --> 01:28:06.220 There's a very extensive body of research about safety 01:28:06.220 --> 01:28:11.220 culture and what constitutes safety culture really evolve 01:28:11.940 --> 01:28:16.090 over time with experience in different practices. 01:28:16.090 --> 01:28:21.090 I was really taken by a comment that Kevin Payne, 01:28:21.110 --> 01:28:26.110 the CEO of Southern California Edison made in August at our 01:28:27.660 --> 01:28:31.030 public safety meeting on utility safety practices. 01:28:31.030 --> 01:28:35.160 Well he pointed out how the organization's 01:28:35.160 --> 01:28:38.730 diversity equity and inclusion efforts 01:28:38.730 --> 01:28:42.053 have a very direct impact on safety culture. 01:28:43.984 --> 01:28:47.240 He said an employee sense of psychological safety 01:28:47.240 --> 01:28:48.640 impacts their performance 01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:49.990 and their willingness to engage 01:28:49.990 --> 01:28:51.700 and have common candid conversations 01:28:51.700 --> 01:28:54.743 and that's really true and that's something that we. 01:29:00.200 --> 01:29:05.200 One point the preliminary scope includes 01:29:05.340 --> 01:29:08.490 the question about whether the proceedings should apply 01:29:08.490 --> 01:29:11.423 to gas utilities and gas storage operators 01:29:11.423 --> 01:29:13.920 in addition to electrical corporations 01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:16.160 and to me, the answer yes, 01:29:16.160 --> 01:29:19.160 that it should, we've already done this, 01:29:19.160 --> 01:29:22.750 as I mentioned for PG&E and SoCalGas and Sempra, 01:29:22.750 --> 01:29:27.196 we've also done this for two gas storage companies, 01:29:27.196 --> 01:29:29.230 Wild Goose and Modi gas storage. 01:29:29.230 --> 01:29:32.340 I think this OIR is the best way to Institute 01:29:32.340 --> 01:29:35.410 a safety culture method, 01:29:35.410 --> 01:29:38.920 the safety culture assessments and management systems for 01:29:38.920 --> 01:29:41.980 all the energy utilities under our jurisdiction. 01:29:41.980 --> 01:29:43.790 So I would answer that question. 01:29:43.790 --> 01:29:46.610 Yes, of course we'll get public comments on that 01:29:46.610 --> 01:29:47.950 through the proceeding. 01:29:47.950 --> 01:29:51.123 With that I'll be strongly supporting this item. 01:29:53.680 --> 01:29:56.647 Thank you for that further annunciation of, 01:29:56.647 --> 01:30:00.170 of the OIR proposal Commissioner Rechtschaffen 01:30:00.170 --> 01:30:03.600 and appreciate that greatly well yeah Commissioner Houck. 01:30:04.780 --> 01:30:06.223 Thank you, President Batjer. 01:30:08.570 --> 01:30:12.460 I'd also like to thank the safety policy division team 01:30:12.460 --> 01:30:16.170 for all of their work on this and for your office president 01:30:16.170 --> 01:30:21.000 on this important day rulemaking 01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:23.570 that seeks to measure safety based on observable 01:30:23.570 --> 01:30:25.740 factors and outcomes. 01:30:25.740 --> 01:30:30.290 This OIR is required under SB 901 and represents an 01:30:30.290 --> 01:30:34.410 additional proceeding examining IOU safety measures. 01:30:34.410 --> 01:30:35.820 I am concerned, 01:30:35.820 --> 01:30:38.560 and I think we have some discussion about this at the voting 01:30:38.560 --> 01:30:43.120 meeting when the SCE general rate case was up regarding 01:30:45.520 --> 01:30:49.023 the number of highly technical safety related proceedings, 01:30:49.023 --> 01:30:52.630 that the Commission is engaging in that can potentially lead 01:30:52.630 --> 01:30:57.030 to bifurcation of issues or an academic examination of IOU 01:30:57.030 --> 01:31:00.190 safety matters as opposed to coordinated actual on the 01:31:00.190 --> 01:31:04.860 ground oversight and improved safety practices by IOUs. 01:31:04.860 --> 01:31:08.320 I believe this OIR however presents an opportunity for the 01:31:08.320 --> 01:31:11.180 Commission to consider how to streamline the various safety 01:31:11.180 --> 01:31:13.970 assessments that we kind of end, 01:31:13.970 --> 01:31:17.610 that we can efficiently track IOUs investments of rate payer 01:31:17.610 --> 01:31:20.270 funds and ensure that their expenditures result in 01:31:20.270 --> 01:31:21.740 measurable on the ground, 01:31:21.740 --> 01:31:24.090 actual improvements in safety 01:31:24.090 --> 01:31:26.070 and looking to streamline these efforts, 01:31:26.070 --> 01:31:28.490 we should also consider the timing of the various 01:31:28.490 --> 01:31:31.490 assessments to ensure that information can be effectively 01:31:31.490 --> 01:31:33.960 utilized across proceedings. 01:31:33.960 --> 01:31:37.500 I support efforts such as this OIR to provide opportunities 01:31:37.500 --> 01:31:39.760 that will allow for a close look at the number of 01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:42.830 proceedings and the manner in which we're assessing safety 01:31:42.830 --> 01:31:45.570 and we need to ensure that we reach meaningful 01:31:45.570 --> 01:31:47.040 and implementable results, 01:31:47.040 --> 01:31:50.367 that benefit rate payers and increased safety measures. 01:31:50.367 --> 01:31:53.890 So we must ensure that the regulated entities are being held 01:31:53.890 --> 01:31:56.430 accountable for safety to rate payers, communities, 01:31:56.430 --> 01:31:59.560 and the Commission while maintaining reliable service. 01:31:59.560 --> 01:32:02.620 I strongly believe this OIR has been crafted in a manner 01:32:02.620 --> 01:32:04.130 that will further these efforts 01:32:04.130 --> 01:32:06.420 and I also want to echo and agree 01:32:06.420 --> 01:32:08.560 with Commissioner Rechtschaffen in comments 01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:11.610 regarding incorporation of looking at 01:32:11.610 --> 01:32:14.310 gas, safety issues as part of this OIR 01:32:14.310 --> 01:32:17.980 and again wanna thank everyone that put in all of the effort 01:32:17.980 --> 01:32:19.033 for this proceeding. 01:32:20.870 --> 01:32:22.690 Commissioner Houck I wanna know if your dog 01:32:22.690 --> 01:32:25.163 is supportive or not of this item. 01:32:26.141 --> 01:32:29.103 I think it is and I really apologize for it. 01:32:33.155 --> 01:32:36.810 We know it was wonderful no, I'm just teasing. 01:32:36.810 --> 01:32:38.270 Okay any other comments? 01:32:38.270 --> 01:32:39.893 Oh, yes Commissioner Shiroma. 01:32:41.260 --> 01:32:43.568 Oh thank you President Batjer. 01:32:43.568 --> 01:32:46.227 I'm pleased to vote for the opening of this new OIR 01:32:46.227 --> 01:32:50.901 we have seen too many root cause analysis come back 01:32:50.901 --> 01:32:55.290 with preventable lessons learned hindsight 01:32:55.290 --> 01:32:58.170 certainly is 2020 in those cases, 01:32:58.170 --> 01:33:01.560 but what's important is that we also take actions now 01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:04.473 to be equipped with the foresight to prevent, 01:33:05.535 --> 01:33:06.970 it could be incidences. 01:33:06.970 --> 01:33:11.160 I believe this OIR will be a great opportunity for our 01:33:11.160 --> 01:33:15.500 utilities to indeed institutionalized your hardware, 01:33:15.500 --> 01:33:19.107 shaky culture throughout their organizations, 01:33:19.107 --> 01:33:23.500 including the board of directors, 01:33:23.500 --> 01:33:28.040 all geared towards rethinking and looking at 01:33:30.780 --> 01:33:35.332 best practices, looking at new ideas for safety processes 01:33:35.332 --> 01:33:40.332 and this is really the opportunity to look at what has been 01:33:41.130 --> 01:33:46.130 done as we have responded to COVID-19 and how can those 01:33:47.880 --> 01:33:51.870 activities, tools, and culture, 01:33:51.870 --> 01:33:56.870 and leading the entire team of people at the utility littler 01:33:58.500 --> 01:34:02.300 here, the CPUC have responded and responded as well. 01:34:02.300 --> 01:34:05.650 So thank you to the staff and the judges who have worked on 01:34:05.650 --> 01:34:09.253 this and brought this forward for our vote today, thank you. 01:34:11.140 --> 01:34:14.220 Thank you any further comments? 01:34:14.220 --> 01:34:15.990 Okay seen none will the agenda clerk, 01:34:15.990 --> 01:34:18.623 please call the roll on item 23. 01:34:20.040 --> 01:34:21.090 Commissioner Houck. 01:34:22.570 --> 01:34:23.403 Yes. 01:34:24.772 --> 01:34:26.991 Commissioner Shiroma. 01:34:26.991 --> 01:34:27.824 Aye. 01:34:28.835 --> 01:34:30.380 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:34:30.380 --> 01:34:31.213 Yes. 01:34:32.290 --> 01:34:33.740 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:34:34.691 --> 01:34:36.155 Aye. 01:34:36.155 --> 01:34:37.897 President Batjer. 01:34:37.897 --> 01:34:38.730 Aye. 01:34:38.730 --> 01:34:42.360 Item 23 passes unanimously, thank you all. 01:34:42.360 --> 01:34:47.340 Item 24 is assigned to Commissioner Houck, Commissioner. 01:34:51.373 --> 01:34:54.680 Okay I think my dog has quieted down a little bit. 01:34:54.680 --> 01:34:59.680 So this is an order extending statutory deadline for 01:34:59.870 --> 01:35:04.070 complaint case C 19-04-05, 01:35:04.070 --> 01:35:07.070 Fred Sahadi versus San Jose water company 01:35:07.070 --> 01:35:10.890 on August 5th, 2021 a presiding officer's decision 01:35:10.890 --> 01:35:12.750 was issued by the ALJ. 01:35:12.750 --> 01:35:14.540 On September 7th, 2021, 01:35:14.540 --> 01:35:17.940 the complaints and appealed the presiding officer's decision 01:35:17.940 --> 01:35:19.920 and extension of the statutory deadline to 01:35:19.920 --> 01:35:23.470 February 8th, 2022 is necessary to complete review 01:35:23.470 --> 01:35:25.190 of the appeal and with that, 01:35:25.190 --> 01:35:28.580 I asked for your support on the requested extension 01:35:28.580 --> 01:35:29.463 for this item. 01:35:30.570 --> 01:35:33.700 Thank you are there any comments or questions? 01:35:33.700 --> 01:35:36.713 Okay seen none will the agenda clerk please call the roll. 01:35:37.910 --> 01:35:39.123 Commissioner Houck. 01:35:40.630 --> 01:35:42.130 Yes. 01:35:42.130 --> 01:35:43.350 Commissioner Shiroma. 01:35:44.390 --> 01:35:45.960 Aye. 01:35:45.960 --> 01:35:48.080 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:35:48.080 --> 01:35:49.640 Yes. 01:35:49.640 --> 01:35:51.681 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:35:51.681 --> 01:35:53.220 Aye. 01:35:53.220 --> 01:35:54.170 President Batjer. 01:35:55.040 --> 01:35:55.890 Aye. 01:35:55.890 --> 01:36:00.040 Thank you he vote is unanimous for item number 24, 01:36:00.040 --> 01:36:02.230 moving now to item number 25 01:36:02.230 --> 01:36:04.527 as assigned to Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:36:06.630 --> 01:36:08.080 Thank you, President Batjer. 01:36:08.080 --> 01:36:10.950 This is another order extending the statutory deadline 01:36:10.950 --> 01:36:12.370 for a proceeding, 01:36:12.370 --> 01:36:16.710 dealing with the compliance and verification of our rules 01:36:16.710 --> 01:36:20.090 regarding prohibited fossil backup 01:36:20.090 --> 01:36:22.713 in the demand response programs. 01:36:24.130 --> 01:36:26.910 I very much wish that I didn't need this extension, 01:36:26.910 --> 01:36:31.623 but obviously the circumstances have much evolved since the 01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:36.320 beginning of this program and the rules that tied to this 01:36:36.320 --> 01:36:38.060 many of these programs. 01:36:38.060 --> 01:36:40.370 But in addition, some of this, 01:36:40.370 --> 01:36:43.210 some of the key staff on this have obviously been very 01:36:43.210 --> 01:36:46.970 focused on all of the recent priorities, especially the, 01:36:46.970 --> 01:36:49.015 some of the liability proceedings 01:36:49.015 --> 01:36:52.150 and so therefore we needed additional time 01:36:52.150 --> 01:36:54.340 to issue this as a proposed decision. 01:36:54.340 --> 01:36:58.260 So I'm requesting an extension until October of next year. 01:36:58.260 --> 01:36:59.093 Thank you. 01:37:00.430 --> 01:37:02.350 Thank you very much. 01:37:02.350 --> 01:37:06.783 Are there any comments or questions on item number 25? 01:37:09.482 --> 01:37:12.780 Okay seen none will the agenda clerk, please call the roll. 01:37:12.780 --> 01:37:13.830 Commissioner Houck. 01:37:15.050 --> 01:37:15.883 Yes. 01:37:16.920 --> 01:37:18.070 Commissioner Shiroma. 01:37:18.990 --> 01:37:19.823 Aye. 01:37:21.330 --> 01:37:23.360 Commissioner Rechtschaffen. 01:37:23.360 --> 01:37:24.980 Yes. 01:37:24.980 --> 01:37:27.269 Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:37:27.269 --> 01:37:28.102 Aye. 01:37:29.266 --> 01:37:30.986 President Batjer. 01:37:30.986 --> 01:37:32.270 Aye. 01:37:32.270 --> 01:37:35.550 Item 25 passes unanimously. 01:37:35.550 --> 01:37:39.700 Item 26 will be withdrawn because it is assigned 01:37:39.700 --> 01:37:41.250 to Commissioner Shiroma. 01:37:41.250 --> 01:37:45.710 It is because it is related to item 11, 01:37:45.710 --> 01:37:49.163 which we passed on the Consent Agenda today. 01:37:50.070 --> 01:37:55.070 So we will now move on in the agenda to management reports. 01:37:55.360 --> 01:38:00.360 We had one earlier today and there is no report for item 29 01:38:01.730 --> 01:38:03.440 management report and discussion 01:38:03.440 --> 01:38:05.223 on administrative activities. 01:38:06.332 --> 01:38:08.580 So we will turn now to the Commissioner's reports on the 01:38:08.580 --> 01:38:11.503 agenda and who would like to go first? 01:38:14.370 --> 01:38:18.110 Okay Commissioner Guzman Aceves. 01:38:18.110 --> 01:38:21.110 Did you say Commissioner Shiroma. 01:38:21.110 --> 01:38:24.540 Okay I wanted to just share a couple of updates 01:38:24.540 --> 01:38:26.090 that I've mentioned before, 01:38:26.090 --> 01:38:30.747 but really want to really encourage all of you as well as 01:38:30.747 --> 01:38:35.620 the public to join a workshop on Aliso Canyon and the 01:38:35.620 --> 01:38:39.070 alternatives that will be presented by our consultants, 01:38:39.070 --> 01:38:43.070 FTI consulting has been analyzing what will be needed, 01:38:43.070 --> 01:38:46.690 what kind of investments will be needed to replace natural 01:38:46.690 --> 01:38:50.200 gas function that Aliso Canyon currently serves. 01:38:50.200 --> 01:38:54.610 They have four portfolios of resource options and actions 01:38:54.610 --> 01:38:59.020 that they'll be presenting as well as a proposed portfolio, 01:38:59.020 --> 01:39:03.150 which will be incorporating some of the most cost effective 01:39:03.150 --> 01:39:07.010 elements from the four portfolios 01:39:07.010 --> 01:39:08.969 that they'll be looking at. 01:39:08.969 --> 01:39:12.720 And so this is on November 3rd, Wednesday, November 3rd, 01:39:12.720 --> 01:39:14.346 where they will be presenting this. 01:39:14.346 --> 01:39:19.346 We will obviously be looking forward to very much what the 01:39:19.510 --> 01:39:22.430 public has for feedback and the parties, 01:39:22.430 --> 01:39:26.700 and will be subsequently putting the report in the final 01:39:26.700 --> 01:39:29.880 report into the record and taking comment on that 01:39:29.880 --> 01:39:34.880 as we geared towards developing the set of actions that are 01:39:34.940 --> 01:39:38.550 necessary to phase out our dependency on Aliso 01:39:39.700 --> 01:39:42.040 and so I want to invite everyone, 01:39:42.040 --> 01:39:44.390 particularly the public and all of the parties 01:39:44.390 --> 01:39:47.630 and all of you Commissioners to join that workshop. 01:39:47.630 --> 01:39:48.683 Thank you very much. 01:39:50.809 --> 01:39:54.820 Thank you, Commissioner Shiroma. 01:39:54.820 --> 01:39:55.653 Thank you President Batjer. 01:39:55.653 --> 01:39:58.420 I have several items first. 01:39:58.420 --> 01:40:01.550 Which I want to put on everyone's radar 01:40:01.550 --> 01:40:04.090 that we will be having in micro-grids 01:40:04.090 --> 01:40:06.074 and resiliency workshop. 01:40:06.074 --> 01:40:11.074 Last January, we voted out a micro-grid incentive program, 01:40:13.103 --> 01:40:13.936 like your fund, 01:40:13.936 --> 01:40:18.470 clean energy market grants to support vulnerable populations 01:40:18.470 --> 01:40:23.470 impacted by grid outages, PSPSS and so forth. 01:40:24.040 --> 01:40:27.170 Over the summer PG&E Southern California Edison 01:40:27.170 --> 01:40:29.700 and San Diego gas and electric held 01:40:29.700 --> 01:40:33.420 community workshops to gather input on the design and 01:40:33.420 --> 01:40:36.463 implementation of the micro-grid incentive program. 01:40:37.620 --> 01:40:41.070 The 50 division staff is now finalizing the details 01:40:41.070 --> 01:40:44.710 for this upcoming workshop. 01:40:44.710 --> 01:40:45.690 During the workshop, 01:40:45.690 --> 01:40:50.130 the investor on utilities will present on areas of agreement 01:40:50.130 --> 01:40:54.210 from the summer workshops and share how they have community 01:40:54.210 --> 01:40:59.210 input into their micro-grid and center program drafts. 01:41:00.050 --> 01:41:02.720 This is all through the effort 01:41:02.720 --> 01:41:04.920 of making this program responsive 01:41:04.920 --> 01:41:08.150 to the needs of these vulnerable communities, 01:41:08.150 --> 01:41:10.803 which include low income communities. 01:41:11.760 --> 01:41:14.030 The date will be announced shortly. 01:41:14.030 --> 01:41:18.176 So I encourage interested parties to keep an eye on the 01:41:18.176 --> 01:41:23.176 R19-09-009 service list the data calendar for more details 01:41:26.221 --> 01:41:29.310 and then on October 22nd, 01:41:29.310 --> 01:41:33.800 we will be hosting a workshop on the iFoster pilot program. 01:41:33.800 --> 01:41:37.770 With many thanks to Commissioner Guzman Aceves, 01:41:37.770 --> 01:41:42.770 the IFoster pilot was adopted in a 2019 decision in order 01:41:43.060 --> 01:41:47.010 to bring foster youth in need to the lifeline program to 01:41:47.010 --> 01:41:50.710 access free and discounted communication of service, 01:41:50.710 --> 01:41:55.540 both telephone and WiFi hotspot service. 01:41:55.540 --> 01:41:59.040 We have gained a learning about the challenges 01:41:59.040 --> 01:42:00.690 of putting at the program 01:42:00.690 --> 01:42:03.190 and I've also identified the program as being 01:42:03.190 --> 01:42:05.500 very successful in a staff report, 01:42:05.500 --> 01:42:08.798 adopted by the Commission and a decision comes July 01:42:08.798 --> 01:42:11.200 of his past year. 01:42:11.200 --> 01:42:14.020 The workshop will include discussions on how the iFoster 01:42:14.020 --> 01:42:17.590 pilot can become a permanent part of the lifeline program 01:42:17.590 --> 01:42:22.010 and how to ensure continuity of service in foster 01:42:22.010 --> 01:42:24.960 youth age, out of the foster system 01:42:24.960 --> 01:42:28.640 and again, that will be on October 22nd, it'll be virtual. 01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:32.010 Start 10:00 AM all are welcome 01:42:32.010 --> 01:42:36.406 and details are on the Commissioners daily calendar. 01:42:36.406 --> 01:42:38.830 And then I'm pleased to announce a new advisor 01:42:38.830 --> 01:42:40.950 joining my team Andrew Dudican. 01:42:41.860 --> 01:42:45.950 Andrew will cover energy and transportation matters. 01:42:45.950 --> 01:42:48.150 Andrew comes from our consumer protection 01:42:48.150 --> 01:42:49.830 and enforcement division, 01:42:49.830 --> 01:42:53.000 where he was a senior analyst supporting the Commissioner's 01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:55.130 transportation network company, 01:42:55.130 --> 01:42:57.880 rulemaking and inter-agency coordination, 01:42:57.880 --> 01:43:00.320 including as the lead analyst 01:43:00.320 --> 01:43:03.080 on the autonomous vehicle program. 01:43:03.080 --> 01:43:06.380 Prior to joining the CPUC in 2019, 01:43:06.380 --> 01:43:10.060 Andrew spent a decade developing policy to support 01:43:10.060 --> 01:43:13.300 disadvantaged communities at Southern California Edison. 01:43:13.300 --> 01:43:17.170 He also co-led a partnership between utility and community 01:43:17.170 --> 01:43:21.070 based organizations to construct clean energy projects 01:43:21.070 --> 01:43:23.250 in their local communities, 01:43:23.250 --> 01:43:26.360 and to hold a bachelor of arts degree in mathematics 01:43:26.360 --> 01:43:28.270 from Pomona college, 01:43:28.270 --> 01:43:32.290 please join me in welcoming Andrew to my team, 01:43:32.290 --> 01:43:36.370 and he looks forward to continuing to work with all of your 01:43:36.370 --> 01:43:39.277 teams and the industry divisions thank you. 01:43:41.745 --> 01:43:43.045 Thank you, Commissioner. 01:43:44.730 --> 01:43:47.513 Anyone else wishes to yes Commissioner Houck. 01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:50.753 Thank you. 01:43:52.810 --> 01:43:56.670 I also would ask that you join me in welcoming some new 01:43:56.670 --> 01:43:58.283 staff in my office. 01:43:59.280 --> 01:44:03.290 First I'm pleased to announce that Christie Chu, 01:44:03.290 --> 01:44:06.900 who was recently at the energy Commission will be joining my 01:44:06.900 --> 01:44:09.300 office prior to joining the PUC 01:44:09.300 --> 01:44:11.230 Christie worked for 19 years 01:44:11.230 --> 01:44:13.510 at the California energy Commission, 01:44:13.510 --> 01:44:16.030 where she started as a project manager in the sighting 01:44:16.030 --> 01:44:19.350 transmission and environmental protection division. 01:44:19.350 --> 01:44:22.850 She went to work in the energy resource division as a demand 01:44:22.850 --> 01:44:24.960 response research manager, 01:44:24.960 --> 01:44:27.900 and as the project manager for the desert renewable energy 01:44:27.900 --> 01:44:30.890 conservation plan as an advisor, 01:44:30.890 --> 01:44:34.490 she also served as an advisor to energy Commissioners, 01:44:34.490 --> 01:44:36.570 Jeff Byron and Karen Douglas 01:44:36.570 --> 01:44:38.650 as the liaison to the disadvantaged 01:44:38.650 --> 01:44:40.590 communities advisory group 01:44:40.590 --> 01:44:42.920 and most recently in the efficiency division, 01:44:42.920 --> 01:44:46.140 working on building de-carbonization policies. 01:44:46.140 --> 01:44:47.900 So before working in the energy realm, 01:44:47.900 --> 01:44:51.238 Christie worked in the public programs office of the 01:44:51.238 --> 01:44:53.840 California integrated waste management board 01:44:53.840 --> 01:44:57.220 and for the city of Sacramento is a land use planner. 01:44:57.220 --> 01:45:00.210 Christie has a degree in environmental policy analysis 01:45:00.210 --> 01:45:01.840 and planning from UC Davis, 01:45:01.840 --> 01:45:04.740 and she looks forward to learning all about working 01:45:04.740 --> 01:45:08.410 at the states, post other energy agencies. 01:45:08.410 --> 01:45:12.800 So please join me in welcoming Christie to my office. 01:45:12.800 --> 01:45:17.580 I also will be having a new temporary advisor in my office 01:45:17.580 --> 01:45:20.840 Erin Seibert will be working in my office, 01:45:20.840 --> 01:45:23.800 starting on Monday through the end of March 01:45:23.800 --> 01:45:25.820 to cover MC Brown's workload 01:45:25.820 --> 01:45:29.950 MC will be starting maternity leave in the very near future 01:45:29.950 --> 01:45:34.700 and returning in roughly late March, early April. 01:45:34.700 --> 01:45:37.660 Aaron joined the Commission in 2011 01:45:37.660 --> 01:45:40.440 and comes to us from the ALJ division. 01:45:40.440 --> 01:45:42.000 During his time at the Commission 01:45:42.000 --> 01:45:44.550 Aaron has served as an Administrative Law Judge, 01:45:44.550 --> 01:45:48.140 former advisor to Commissioner Peterson and an analyst and 01:45:48.140 --> 01:45:51.490 program and project supervisor and energy division. 01:45:51.490 --> 01:45:54.000 Aaron holds a BA in English and psychology 01:45:54.000 --> 01:45:55.520 from Butler university, 01:45:55.520 --> 01:45:58.270 a master's degree in public administration from Columbia 01:45:58.270 --> 01:46:02.153 university and spent a year studying abroad in Oxford. 01:46:03.090 --> 01:46:05.480 In his free time he enjoys trying to keep up with 01:46:05.480 --> 01:46:07.450 his three energetic children, 01:46:07.450 --> 01:46:09.740 rowing and reading detective novels. 01:46:09.740 --> 01:46:13.640 So we're excited to have both of them 01:46:13.640 --> 01:46:18.640 and I also wanted to just mention the hyper workshop that 01:46:21.040 --> 01:46:21.900 I attended this week 01:46:21.900 --> 01:46:24.500 on grid interactive efficient buildings. 01:46:24.500 --> 01:46:28.107 On October 5th, 2021 the CEC 01:46:29.830 --> 01:46:32.550 held an eye for grid interactive efficiency 01:46:32.550 --> 01:46:34.591 workshop, which was a full day workshop 01:46:34.591 --> 01:46:36.010 and the morning was filled 01:46:36.010 --> 01:46:37.590 with a number of great presenters, 01:46:37.590 --> 01:46:41.150 including a keynote presentation from David Namso 01:46:41.150 --> 01:46:43.000 from the U.S. department of energy 01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:46.870 and I thought his talk was particularly interesting as he 01:46:46.870 --> 01:46:50.370 laid out the potential value of having grid interconnected 01:46:50.370 --> 01:46:54.510 buildings and recommended actions as to how we can get there 01:46:54.510 --> 01:46:58.120 and discuss her current DOE pilot projects underway 01:46:58.120 --> 01:47:00.930 and there was a lot of discussion concerning several actions 01:47:00.930 --> 01:47:03.450 that can be utilized and supported through the work we are 01:47:03.450 --> 01:47:05.660 doing here at the CPUC 01:47:05.660 --> 01:47:10.350 and I'm looking forward to having partnerships with the 01:47:10.350 --> 01:47:13.600 federal government and working in the same direction. 01:47:13.600 --> 01:47:18.160 Panelists also spoke about available and needed technologies 01:47:18.160 --> 01:47:22.720 evolving customer programs, equity issues, and overall, 01:47:22.720 --> 01:47:27.210 I thought it was a great workshop that highlighted synergies 01:47:27.210 --> 01:47:29.840 between the two agencies and a lot of the work that we're 01:47:29.840 --> 01:47:33.690 doing here at the PUC in regards to load flexibility, 01:47:33.690 --> 01:47:38.070 demand, response, and reliability issues. 01:47:38.070 --> 01:47:41.700 So I'm looking forward to seeing how we can work together to 01:47:41.700 --> 01:47:43.553 implement some of these measures. 01:47:45.460 --> 01:47:47.490 I also wanna thank Commissioner Guzman Aceves 01:47:47.490 --> 01:47:49.230 and her staff for leading 01:47:49.230 --> 01:47:53.490 events this month in honor, of a Hispanic history month, 01:47:53.490 --> 01:47:55.670 we had a number of great presentations on community 01:47:55.670 --> 01:47:57.970 organization and voting impacts. 01:47:57.970 --> 01:48:02.170 I also want to acknowledge that this coming Monday is 01:48:02.170 --> 01:48:03.940 indigenous people's day, 01:48:03.940 --> 01:48:05.647 and there's a number of activities 01:48:05.647 --> 01:48:07.270 going to around the state. 01:48:07.270 --> 01:48:10.110 I also noticed that the California Indian museum that was 01:48:10.110 --> 01:48:14.130 recently closed for repairs is now reopened and want to 01:48:14.130 --> 01:48:17.480 recognize and command Governor Newsome's administration for 01:48:17.480 --> 01:48:19.693 its recognition of indigenous people's day, 01:48:21.280 --> 01:48:23.560 as well as creating the truth and healing council and 01:48:23.560 --> 01:48:26.720 supporting policies such as the Commission or the land 01:48:26.720 --> 01:48:29.730 transfer policy and other efforts to develop meaningful 01:48:29.730 --> 01:48:32.290 consultation measures that ensure opportunities 01:48:32.290 --> 01:48:34.900 for tribal voices to be at the table 01:48:34.900 --> 01:48:38.920 and just a little history regarding indigenous peoples day. 01:48:38.920 --> 01:48:41.630 The first documented observance of Columbus day in the 01:48:41.630 --> 01:48:45.430 United States was in New York city in 1792. 01:48:45.430 --> 01:48:50.260 Any native people oppose the celebration of Columbus as it 01:48:50.260 --> 01:48:53.600 honored colonialism in the Western hemisphere, 01:48:53.600 --> 01:48:57.850 and that represented mass death and forced assimilation 01:48:57.850 --> 01:48:59.720 of many indigenous peoples. 01:48:59.720 --> 01:49:04.400 It wasn't until 1977 that the United nations international 01:49:04.400 --> 01:49:07.500 conference on discrimination against indigenous populations 01:49:07.500 --> 01:49:10.260 in the Americas proposed that Columbus day. 01:49:10.260 --> 01:49:13.160 We replaced with indigenous peoples day and an effort to 01:49:13.160 --> 01:49:16.110 recognize native peoples and encourage the Americans to 01:49:16.110 --> 01:49:18.250 rethink their history. 01:49:18.250 --> 01:49:20.030 Cities and states across the U.S. 01:49:20.030 --> 01:49:22.870 have replaced Columbus day with indigenous peoples day 01:49:22.870 --> 01:49:26.940 and the first date to do so with South Dakota in 1990, 01:49:26.940 --> 01:49:29.750 Berkeley was the first city to make the change from Columbus 01:49:29.750 --> 01:49:34.070 day to indigenous people's day in 1992 and by 2015, 01:49:35.290 --> 01:49:37.950 there was a gathering of over 6,000 native people and 01:49:37.950 --> 01:49:41.160 supporters at Randall's island in New York to recognize the 01:49:41.160 --> 01:49:45.393 history and continued perseverance of native peoples, 01:49:47.700 --> 01:49:50.490 which received worldwide attention and further the movement 01:49:50.490 --> 01:49:53.240 to formally recognize indigenous peoples day. 01:49:53.240 --> 01:49:57.360 In 2019 and 2020 California's Governor Gavin Newsome issued 01:49:57.360 --> 01:50:00.223 proclamations declaring indigenous peoples day, 01:50:01.410 --> 01:50:04.400 joining 18 other states in such recognition 01:50:04.400 --> 01:50:05.960 and I just want to end with a quote 01:50:05.960 --> 01:50:08.372 from Governor Newsome's proclamation, 01:50:08.372 --> 01:50:12.080 as we're moving, as Monday will be indigenous people day 01:50:12.080 --> 01:50:16.020 that in the spirit of reconciliation and re-examination, 01:50:16.020 --> 01:50:19.240 he said that he encouraged all Californians today to take 01:50:19.240 --> 01:50:22.810 time to celebrate indigenous peoples rather than the forces 01:50:22.810 --> 01:50:25.830 that tried and failed to eradicate them and let us reflect 01:50:25.830 --> 01:50:28.390 on how their resistance and persistence has shaped 01:50:28.390 --> 01:50:30.480 California for the better 01:50:30.480 --> 01:50:35.480 and so thank you for allowing me to provide that information 01:50:35.680 --> 01:50:36.653 in my report today. 01:50:39.540 --> 01:50:41.870 Thank you for that terrific reminder, 01:50:41.870 --> 01:50:45.183 of Monday being indigenous peoples day, 01:50:46.530 --> 01:50:47.830 Commissioner Rechtschaffen 01:50:49.940 --> 01:50:52.150 Thank you and thank you, Commissioner Houck. 01:50:52.150 --> 01:50:55.850 That was an extremely instructive and powerful summary. 01:50:55.850 --> 01:50:59.053 So really appreciate your providing that. 01:51:00.490 --> 01:51:04.450 Since everyone else's is hawking and advertising 01:51:04.450 --> 01:51:07.780 their panels, I wanna tell people about a two for one deal 01:51:07.780 --> 01:51:10.500 that you can take advantage of next week. 01:51:10.500 --> 01:51:13.830 If you really interested in transportation electrification, 01:51:13.830 --> 01:51:18.455 we have two great panels coming up on Tuesday of next week. 01:51:18.455 --> 01:51:23.455 The PUC and CEC and Gobiz are sponsoring the joint 01:51:24.770 --> 01:51:28.640 program from 9:30 to four about 01:51:28.640 --> 01:51:31.170 accelerating Ed infrastructure 01:51:31.170 --> 01:51:35.340 and deployment three panels on permitting rates 01:51:35.340 --> 01:51:38.470 and interconnection and Ed integration. 01:51:38.470 --> 01:51:43.470 The next day, Wednesday the 13th from one to four, 01:51:43.680 --> 01:51:45.960 we're gonna be having an on bonk with all of the 01:51:45.960 --> 01:51:50.700 Commissioners on electrification 01:51:50.700 --> 01:51:54.210 and it's a unique opportunity for us to discuss among 01:51:54.210 --> 01:51:57.310 ourselves in a public setting some of our priorities, 01:51:57.310 --> 01:51:59.450 we're gonna start out with a presentation 01:51:59.450 --> 01:52:02.510 from the energy division level setting, 01:52:02.510 --> 01:52:05.820 where we are our progress in our gaps. 01:52:05.820 --> 01:52:10.410 We'll hear from our sister agency at the energy Commission 01:52:10.410 --> 01:52:14.370 about the work that they're doing and the areas of focus for 01:52:14.370 --> 01:52:16.472 their infrastructure investment 01:52:16.472 --> 01:52:20.220 and then we're gonna have a one hour Commissioner round 01:52:20.220 --> 01:52:24.920 table discussion about what we collectively think our vision 01:52:24.920 --> 01:52:29.130 should be for optimizing the use of rate payer funds, 01:52:29.130 --> 01:52:32.110 what the utility role should be in the transportation 01:52:32.110 --> 01:52:34.130 electrification market, 01:52:34.130 --> 01:52:37.453 and specifically accelerating the adoption of Eds. 01:52:38.390 --> 01:52:42.720 So that's next Wednesday from one to four, 01:52:42.720 --> 01:52:45.280 I look forward to all my fellow Commissioners 01:52:45.280 --> 01:52:47.250 participating in of course the public 01:52:47.250 --> 01:52:49.497 and stakeholders are welcome to join as well 01:52:49.497 --> 01:52:52.013 and we hope that you do thank you. 01:52:53.280 --> 01:52:55.300 Thank you Commissioner. 01:52:55.300 --> 01:52:57.950 I would like to share a reminder that next Thursday, 01:52:57.950 --> 01:53:02.950 October 14th is our 19th annual supplier diversity on bunk 01:53:03.200 --> 01:53:05.003 on general order 156. 01:53:05.980 --> 01:53:08.670 This year is on bunk's, entitled, 01:53:08.670 --> 01:53:11.393 thriving and surviving during a pandemic. 01:53:12.760 --> 01:53:16.760 We hope the discussion will shed some new light on 01:53:16.760 --> 01:53:20.700 procurement challenges due to the pandemic and provide some 01:53:20.700 --> 01:53:24.900 solutions on how to increase participation with diverse 01:53:25.952 --> 01:53:29.010 suppliers in the utility supply chain. 01:53:29.010 --> 01:53:33.040 The on bunk can be viewed for the public on 01:53:33.040 --> 01:53:38.040 live on www.adminmonitor.com/CA/CPUC 01:53:40.480 --> 01:53:44.390 this is your viewing today's meeting, 01:53:44.390 --> 01:53:48.263 and the agenda is available on the CPUC website. 01:53:49.260 --> 01:53:51.653 We hope that many of you will join us. 01:53:52.870 --> 01:53:54.223 So with that, 01:53:55.280 --> 01:53:58.710 that finishes the Commissioners reports and the public 01:53:58.710 --> 01:54:01.340 meeting for today is now adjourned. 01:54:01.340 --> 01:54:04.870 Thank you we will be taking a 10 minute break, 01:54:04.870 --> 01:54:09.003 so let's just make it 10 minutes after 12 noon. 01:54:10.210 --> 01:54:11.043 Thank you.