WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.550 Momentarily, thank you. 00:00:01.550 --> 00:00:03.440 This meeting of the Railroad Commission of Texas 00:00:03.440 --> 00:00:04.990 will come to order to consider matters 00:00:04.990 --> 00:00:07.730 which have been duly posted by the Secretary of State 00:00:07.730 --> 00:00:10.320 for October 26th, 2021. 00:00:10.320 --> 00:00:12.700 Under our public participation policy, 00:00:12.700 --> 00:00:14.910 anyone designed to offer public testimony 00:00:14.910 --> 00:00:18.310 on any items that are not noticed on today's agenda 00:00:18.310 --> 00:00:20.760 was required to register in advance. 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:23.240 We did not have anyone registered in advance 00:00:23.240 --> 00:00:24.330 for this meeting. 00:00:24.330 --> 00:00:26.910 The Commission will consider the items on the agenda 00:00:26.910 --> 00:00:28.690 as posted on the agenda. 00:00:28.690 --> 00:00:31.063 Let's get started with item number one. 00:00:31.980 --> 00:00:33.810 Good morning, Chairman. Good morning. 00:00:33.810 --> 00:00:35.220 Chairman and Commissioners. 00:00:35.220 --> 00:00:37.310 For the record, my name is Claudia Gidoy. 00:00:37.310 --> 00:00:39.960 I'm representing the market oversight section 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:42.440 of the Oversight and Safety Division. 00:00:42.440 --> 00:00:46.210 Agenda item number one is case number 7053, 00:00:46.210 --> 00:00:48.680 the application of Texas Gas Service Company 00:00:48.680 --> 00:00:52.310 for test year 2019 annual interim rate adjustment 00:00:52.310 --> 00:00:54.090 for the unincorporated portion 00:00:54.090 --> 00:00:56.860 of the Borger SKellytown service area. 00:00:56.860 --> 00:00:59.380 This case is a second interim rate adjustment 00:00:59.380 --> 00:01:00.590 the company has filed 00:01:00.590 --> 00:01:03.030 for the Borger SKellytown service area. 00:01:03.030 --> 00:01:04.750 Since the final order was issued 00:01:04.750 --> 00:01:06.620 in the most recent statement of intent, 00:01:06.620 --> 00:01:10.130 gas utilities docket number 10766, 00:01:10.130 --> 00:01:11.910 the adjustment represents a decrease 00:01:11.910 --> 00:01:16.650 in the company's revenue requirement in the amount of $1,902 00:01:16.650 --> 00:01:20.180 of which $146 is refundable to customers 00:01:20.180 --> 00:01:22.130 subject to this order. 00:01:22.130 --> 00:01:24.270 The recommended adjustment does not include 00:01:24.270 --> 00:01:26.300 recovery of any costs associated 00:01:26.300 --> 00:01:29.530 with the winter weather event of February, 2021. 00:01:29.530 --> 00:01:31.730 I recommend approval of the intermediate adjustment. 00:01:31.730 --> 00:01:33.750 I'm available to answer questions. 00:01:33.750 --> 00:01:35.050 Are there any questions, members? 00:01:35.050 --> 00:01:36.710 No. Okay, I move we approve 00:01:36.710 --> 00:01:37.940 the examiner's recommendation. 00:01:37.940 --> 00:01:39.840 Is there second? Second. 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:41.180 Second, Commissioner Craddick. 00:01:41.180 --> 00:01:43.530 All in favor, say aye. Aye. 00:01:43.530 --> 00:01:44.770 Any opposed? 00:01:44.770 --> 00:01:46.533 Hear none, motion passes. 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:51.510 Agenda item number two is case number 7252. 00:01:51.510 --> 00:01:54.050 The application filed by Atmos Pipeline Texas 00:01:54.050 --> 00:01:57.010 for the 2021 Rider Rev adjustment. 00:01:57.010 --> 00:01:58.810 This is the fourth Rider Rev adjustment 00:01:58.810 --> 00:02:00.670 since the company's last statement of intent, 00:02:00.670 --> 00:02:03.900 gas utilities docket number 10580. 00:02:03.900 --> 00:02:05.610 In which the company's other revenue 00:02:05.610 --> 00:02:07.723 was approved at $69,411,586. 00:02:11.540 --> 00:02:13.240 This amount represents the benchmark 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:15.100 for a measurement of a debit or credit 00:02:15.100 --> 00:02:16.890 for the Rider Rev adjustment. 00:02:16.890 --> 00:02:17.900 In this application, 00:02:17.900 --> 00:02:20.030 the Rider Rev adjustment represents a decrease 00:02:20.030 --> 00:02:22.110 in rates to customers as other revenue 00:02:22.110 --> 00:02:24.950 increased to $104,682,821. 00:02:27.870 --> 00:02:31.380 The difference in other revenue from GUD number 10580 00:02:31.380 --> 00:02:36.380 is a decrease of $35,271,235. 00:02:36.780 --> 00:02:39.710 Of this amount, 75% or $26,453,426 00:02:42.620 --> 00:02:44.770 will be accredit to city gate service 00:02:44.770 --> 00:02:47.130 and pipeline transportation customers. 00:02:47.130 --> 00:02:49.350 I recommend approval of the Rider Rev adjustment. 00:02:49.350 --> 00:02:50.653 I'm available to answer questions. 00:02:50.653 --> 00:02:52.540 Are there any questions, members? 00:02:52.540 --> 00:02:53.400 No. 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:55.460 I move we approve the examiner's recommendation. 00:02:55.460 --> 00:02:56.340 Is there a second? Second. 00:02:56.340 --> 00:02:58.150 Second by Commissioner Wright. 00:02:58.150 --> 00:03:00.560 All in favor, say aye. Aye. 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:01.470 Any opposed? 00:03:01.470 --> 00:03:03.640 Motion passes, that item is approved. 00:03:03.640 --> 00:03:06.140 Agenda item number three. 00:03:06.140 --> 00:03:06.973 Austin. 00:03:08.335 --> 00:03:10.000 Good morning, Chairman and Commissioners. 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:11.960 Good morning. My name is Austin Gasky, 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:14.410 I'm Technical Examiner for the Hearings division. 00:03:14.410 --> 00:03:15.980 Item number three is the application 00:03:15.980 --> 00:03:17.720 of Blackbeard Operating LLC 00:03:17.720 --> 00:03:20.480 for a blanket exception to Statewide rule 10 00:03:20.480 --> 00:03:24.320 for the Sandhills clear fort and Sandhills tub fields. 00:03:24.320 --> 00:03:26.280 Additionally, Blackbeard requests to field wide, 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:29.270 maximum efficient rate and net gas-oil ratio 00:03:29.270 --> 00:03:31.290 of 300 barrels of oil per day 00:03:31.290 --> 00:03:34.430 with the daily casing head gas limit of 3000 MCF 00:03:34.430 --> 00:03:36.270 of gas per day per well. 00:03:36.270 --> 00:03:40.510 Alternatively, to field wide MER and GOR allowable increase, 00:03:40.510 --> 00:03:42.770 Blackbeard requests salvage classification 00:03:42.770 --> 00:03:45.846 for unlimited oil and gas allowables for the fields. 00:03:45.846 --> 00:03:48.140 Lastly, Blackbird request cancellation 00:03:48.140 --> 00:03:51.560 of accrued over production for its leases in the field. 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:53.820 Milwee Oil Incorporated, 00:03:53.820 --> 00:03:55.790 an operator in the Sandhills tub field, 00:03:55.790 --> 00:03:58.610 protests all components of the application. 00:03:58.610 --> 00:04:00.500 Milwee argues that Blackbird has not proven 00:04:00.500 --> 00:04:01.970 the need for increased oil and gas allowables, 00:04:01.970 --> 00:04:05.790 and Blackbeard's accelerated production of the fields 00:04:05.790 --> 00:04:07.733 will lead to premature abandonment 00:04:07.733 --> 00:04:10.150 resulting in stranded reserves. 00:04:10.150 --> 00:04:12.321 The examiners find insufficient evidence 00:04:12.321 --> 00:04:15.020 that field wide approval of Blackbeard's request 00:04:15.020 --> 00:04:17.410 would protect relative rights or prevent waste. 00:04:17.410 --> 00:04:19.550 The examiners recommend the Commission 00:04:19.550 --> 00:04:21.970 deny Blackbeard's request for blanket Statewide 00:04:21.970 --> 00:04:23.510 rule 10 exception. 00:04:23.510 --> 00:04:25.963 The request to classify the fields of salvage, 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:29.420 the request for field-wide MER and GOR, 00:04:29.420 --> 00:04:32.590 and deny cancellation of overproduction in the fields. 00:04:32.590 --> 00:04:34.660 However, the examiners do recommend approval 00:04:34.660 --> 00:04:36.140 of exception to Statewide rule 10 00:04:36.140 --> 00:04:38.960 for the subject leases being the 6-Pounder, 00:04:38.960 --> 00:04:41.130 the Yellowjacket and Landlubbers units. 00:04:41.130 --> 00:04:42.530 I'm available for questions. 00:04:43.385 --> 00:04:45.020 Members, Austin is available. 00:04:45.020 --> 00:04:48.410 We also have David Jackson with Milwee Oil company 00:04:48.410 --> 00:04:49.970 available for questions. 00:04:49.970 --> 00:04:51.970 Are there any questions for either Austin 00:04:51.970 --> 00:04:53.160 or Mr. Jackson? 00:04:53.160 --> 00:04:56.270 Chairman Christian, I've not been able to research 00:04:56.270 --> 00:04:59.130 this item as thoroughly as I would like. 00:04:59.130 --> 00:05:00.840 Therefore I would like to pass this item 00:05:00.840 --> 00:05:02.840 until our next conference, if that's okay. 00:05:02.840 --> 00:05:03.800 Very good. 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:05.960 Item is passed to the next conference. 00:05:05.960 --> 00:05:06.793 Let's move on. 00:05:06.793 --> 00:05:08.460 Thank you very much, Austin. Thank you. 00:05:08.460 --> 00:05:11.933 Let's move on to the item agenda 4-14. 00:05:12.910 --> 00:05:13.743 Ezra? 00:05:14.654 --> 00:05:16.700 Good morning, Chairman and Commissioners. 00:05:16.700 --> 00:05:18.540 For the record, my name is Ezra Johnson, 00:05:18.540 --> 00:05:21.939 Administrative Law Judge with the Hearings division. 00:05:21.939 --> 00:05:25.620 As mentioned, items 4-14 will be presented together 00:05:25.620 --> 00:05:27.810 as they have common parties and facts, 00:05:27.810 --> 00:05:30.730 and will require one vote and one order. 00:05:30.730 --> 00:05:33.570 These items concerning a motion for rehearing 00:05:33.570 --> 00:05:36.990 of a final order in these dockets granting an application 00:05:36.990 --> 00:05:39.477 of Tall Dune Resources, LLC 00:05:39.477 --> 00:05:42.510 to transfer operatorship of gas wells 00:05:42.510 --> 00:05:46.440 in the Conger PENN field in Sterling County, Texas. 00:05:46.440 --> 00:05:48.100 For the current operator of record, 00:05:48.100 --> 00:05:50.120 Siana Oil and Gas. 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:52.810 Siana filed a timely motion for rehearing 00:05:52.810 --> 00:05:55.290 stating that Tall Dune was obligated, 00:05:55.290 --> 00:05:57.040 but failed to provide written notice 00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:59.833 of the subject applications to Siana. 00:05:59.833 --> 00:06:02.520 Siana further claims that the form P4s 00:06:02.520 --> 00:06:04.800 for the subject properties were previously filed 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:07.220 in favor of a third party. 00:06:07.220 --> 00:06:10.920 Siana also argues that additional information is needed 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:13.790 to verify the good faith claim of Tall Dune 00:06:13.790 --> 00:06:16.480 to operate the subject properties. 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:20.143 Tall Dune filed a timely response opposing the motion. 00:06:21.290 --> 00:06:23.920 The motion does not allege with particularity 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:26.460 the additional information that is required 00:06:26.460 --> 00:06:29.830 to establish Tall Dune's good faith claim, 00:06:29.830 --> 00:06:33.190 or that Siana did not receive the notice of opportunity 00:06:33.190 --> 00:06:37.410 for hearing in these dockets from the Hearings division. 00:06:37.410 --> 00:06:40.120 The form P4s referenced in the motion 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:42.663 have been disclaimed by the third party. 00:06:43.523 --> 00:06:46.780 Accordingly, Siana's motion fails to allege facts 00:06:46.780 --> 00:06:48.640 and circumstances sufficient to show 00:06:48.640 --> 00:06:51.240 a valid basis for rehearing. 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:54.100 And in addition, the motion does not identify 00:06:54.100 --> 00:06:56.600 with particularity any findings of fact, 00:06:56.600 --> 00:06:59.160 conclusions of law, or legal rulings 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:01.600 that are claimed to be erroneous, 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:04.930 nor is there any indication of a legal and factual basis 00:07:04.930 --> 00:07:07.810 for any such claimed error has been indicated, 00:07:07.810 --> 00:07:11.760 as is required by the APA and Commission rules. 00:07:11.760 --> 00:07:13.700 The examiners recommend that the Commission 00:07:13.700 --> 00:07:15.950 deny the motion for rehearing. 00:07:15.950 --> 00:07:18.480 The motion will be overruled by operation of law 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:22.980 on December 2nd, 2021, and I'm available for questions. 00:07:22.980 --> 00:07:24.630 Members, we have Ezra. 00:07:24.630 --> 00:07:26.900 In addition to Ezra, we have Greg Clip 00:07:26.900 --> 00:07:29.340 with Tall dune Resources available. 00:07:29.340 --> 00:07:32.720 Are there any questions of Ezra or Mr. Clip? 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:33.590 No. 00:07:33.590 --> 00:07:34.423 No questions. 00:07:34.423 --> 00:07:36.602 I move we approve the examiner's recommendation. 00:07:36.602 --> 00:07:38.216 Is there a second? Second. 00:07:38.216 --> 00:07:39.740 Second by Commissioner Craddick. 00:07:39.740 --> 00:07:41.760 All in favor, say aye. Aye. 00:07:41.760 --> 00:07:42.822 Any opposed? 00:07:42.822 --> 00:07:46.517 Motion passes, those items are approved. 00:07:46.517 --> 00:07:50.182 Let's move on to the oil and gas Consent Agenda. 00:07:50.182 --> 00:07:53.699 And there are 63 items on the Consent Agenda. 00:07:53.699 --> 00:07:57.727 I move we approve items 15-77. 00:07:57.727 --> 00:07:59.731 Is there a second? 00:07:59.731 --> 00:08:01.574 On the flaring issues, 00:08:01.574 --> 00:08:03.997 I do have some questions for, 00:08:03.997 --> 00:08:06.713 I don't know if there's any presenters here today. 00:08:06.713 --> 00:08:08.546 John Moore or Johnson. 00:08:13.974 --> 00:08:17.124 Good morning. Good morning. 00:08:17.124 --> 00:08:18.542 Can you identify yourself, 00:08:18.542 --> 00:08:19.974 so that will have for the record? 00:08:19.974 --> 00:08:22.334 Yeah sure, for the record, my name is John Moore. 00:08:22.334 --> 00:08:25.566 I'm a Technical Examiner in the Hearings division. 00:08:25.566 --> 00:08:26.783 Thank you, sir. 00:08:26.783 --> 00:08:28.058 Thank you for coming up, John. 00:08:28.058 --> 00:08:29.099 Yes, sir. 00:08:29.099 --> 00:08:29.932 Do you mind? 00:08:29.932 --> 00:08:31.805 No, sure. 00:08:31.805 --> 00:08:34.834 John, thanks for being here. 00:08:34.834 --> 00:08:36.317 I really appreciate it, 00:08:36.317 --> 00:08:37.961 but first I wanted to commend you 00:08:37.961 --> 00:08:39.517 and the rest of the hearing staff 00:08:39.517 --> 00:08:42.565 regarding the mini state ride rule 32 flaring 00:08:42.565 --> 00:08:44.522 exception applications that routinely 00:08:44.522 --> 00:08:46.282 come before this Commission. 00:08:46.282 --> 00:08:47.498 You guys have done a great job. 00:08:47.498 --> 00:08:48.680 Thank you all so much. 00:08:48.680 --> 00:08:49.811 Thank you, sir. 00:08:49.811 --> 00:08:51.625 Starting in January of this year, 00:08:51.625 --> 00:08:52.890 after I was sworn in, 00:08:52.890 --> 00:08:54.718 I believe at one of my very first 00:08:54.718 --> 00:08:58.439 Commissioner's conferences, I made some specific requests 00:08:58.439 --> 00:09:01.108 to the Hearings division in an attempt to ultimately reduce 00:09:01.108 --> 00:09:05.274 both flaring volumes as well as lengths of flaring terms. 00:09:05.274 --> 00:09:07.133 I believe those items are working, 00:09:07.133 --> 00:09:09.877 but I wanted that trend to continue. 00:09:09.877 --> 00:09:12.980 To that end, I wanted to ask a few questions 00:09:12.980 --> 00:09:15.071 that might help overall flaring volumes 00:09:15.071 --> 00:09:17.591 continue to decrease. 00:09:17.591 --> 00:09:22.111 First, have we, do we, can we require that an operator 00:09:22.111 --> 00:09:24.276 consider the current cost of gas 00:09:24.276 --> 00:09:27.443 when performing cost benefit analysis? 00:09:28.671 --> 00:09:30.015 That's my one question 00:09:30.015 --> 00:09:32.412 that I'd like for you guys to consider. 00:09:32.412 --> 00:09:34.746 What about the price of the oil they are extracting? 00:09:34.746 --> 00:09:37.085 Shouldn't that be taken into consideration? 00:09:37.085 --> 00:09:38.067 That's another thing 00:09:38.067 --> 00:09:40.914 I'd like to see if you guys could consider. 00:09:40.914 --> 00:09:44.757 In addition, what about the actual cost of treatment 00:09:44.757 --> 00:09:47.586 to remove hydrogen sulfide, carbon dioxide, 00:09:47.586 --> 00:09:50.208 nitrogen from the gas stream? 00:09:50.208 --> 00:09:53.045 Are we verifying those estimates? 00:09:53.045 --> 00:09:58.045 In other words, whenever the comment comes up about H2S 00:09:58.226 --> 00:09:59.638 and what those costs are 00:09:59.638 --> 00:10:02.513 given the price of what natural gas is today, 00:10:02.513 --> 00:10:05.755 or have we got any way or do we know of any way 00:10:05.755 --> 00:10:07.766 to actually run those cost analysis? 00:10:07.766 --> 00:10:10.538 I'd like for you guys to give that some thought, 00:10:10.538 --> 00:10:11.581 if you could. 00:10:11.581 --> 00:10:13.908 Yes, sir. 00:10:13.908 --> 00:10:15.079 One last question. 00:10:15.079 --> 00:10:16.854 It's apparent that the country is suffering 00:10:16.854 --> 00:10:19.765 through some severe supply chain issues. 00:10:19.765 --> 00:10:22.080 Are we seeing any evidence of these issues 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:24.325 causing elevated flaring instances, 00:10:24.325 --> 00:10:25.864 and that's a question that I don't know 00:10:25.864 --> 00:10:27.972 if you know the answer to today, 00:10:27.972 --> 00:10:30.967 but what I'm hearing is that a lot of these parts and things 00:10:30.967 --> 00:10:34.612 that are needed for our compressors or our way backlogged 00:10:34.612 --> 00:10:36.014 because of supply chain issues. 00:10:36.014 --> 00:10:38.958 Is that something you guys have been hearing? 00:10:38.958 --> 00:10:40.669 I'll defer to Judge Johnson. 00:10:40.669 --> 00:10:43.083 He's got some personal experience with that. 00:10:43.083 --> 00:10:45.546 Okay. 00:10:45.546 --> 00:10:47.931 Once again, Ezra Johnson ALJ 00:10:47.931 --> 00:10:50.586 for the Hearings division for the record. 00:10:50.586 --> 00:10:54.609 Yes, Commissioner Wright, we have in our recent hearings, 00:10:54.609 --> 00:10:57.270 been getting indications from operators 00:10:57.270 --> 00:11:00.724 that supply chain issues and labor issues 00:11:00.724 --> 00:11:05.262 have created circumstances where equipment malfunctions, 00:11:05.262 --> 00:11:09.207 it is more difficult, takes longer to get replacement parts 00:11:09.207 --> 00:11:11.394 or replacement equipment, 00:11:11.394 --> 00:11:14.894 and that the labor shortage also may means 00:11:15.938 --> 00:11:18.641 that where equipment is available, 00:11:18.641 --> 00:11:22.267 there isn't always someone onsite to be able to install it. 00:11:22.267 --> 00:11:26.077 So they are asking us for additional flexibility 00:11:26.077 --> 00:11:29.910 in these rule 32 exception hearings to account 00:11:30.834 --> 00:11:32.251 for those issues. 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:36.507 So is that something you're seeing more and more today 00:11:36.507 --> 00:11:38.869 than say, a year ago? 00:11:38.869 --> 00:11:41.881 Well, certainly more than we were a year ago. 00:11:41.881 --> 00:11:44.530 Both the increase in demand 00:11:44.530 --> 00:11:47.363 that has resulted from the economy 00:11:48.596 --> 00:11:51.513 recovering from the global pandemic 00:11:53.245 --> 00:11:57.828 has accelerated the need for more parts and more labor. 00:11:58.685 --> 00:12:00.436 And right now, there's a lag 00:12:00.436 --> 00:12:03.519 in being able to obtain those inputs. 00:12:04.628 --> 00:12:09.628 So, yes, I can't say that we've had an overwhelming number 00:12:10.039 --> 00:12:12.075 of those requests, 00:12:12.075 --> 00:12:15.326 but we are starting at least starting to see an uptick 00:12:15.326 --> 00:12:19.389 in that being addressed, that being brought to us. 00:12:19.389 --> 00:12:21.694 Is there anything that you could think of 00:12:21.694 --> 00:12:23.127 that the Commission could be doing 00:12:23.127 --> 00:12:25.533 to help those circumstances besides requiring people 00:12:25.533 --> 00:12:28.450 to work 24 hours a day at the port? 00:12:29.317 --> 00:12:33.021 Well, I think I would need to humbly decline 00:12:33.021 --> 00:12:35.944 to speculate from my position 00:12:35.944 --> 00:12:37.549 about what the Commission could do 00:12:37.549 --> 00:12:40.535 about global supply chain issues. 00:12:40.535 --> 00:12:42.624 But if I were to say anything, 00:12:42.624 --> 00:12:46.728 it would be, there are, of course other legal uses 00:12:46.728 --> 00:12:49.749 to which this natural gas can be put 00:12:49.749 --> 00:12:52.774 besides being put into a pipeline. 00:12:52.774 --> 00:12:55.943 Anything the Commission can do to encourage 00:12:55.943 --> 00:12:59.067 other alternative uses I think would alleviate 00:12:59.067 --> 00:13:00.935 some of these problems. I agree. 00:13:00.935 --> 00:13:01.810 Well, thank you. 00:13:01.810 --> 00:13:02.643 Thank you both for your time. 00:13:02.643 --> 00:13:03.827 I appreciate that, 00:13:03.827 --> 00:13:05.865 and I would appreciate you guys giving some thought 00:13:05.865 --> 00:13:08.960 to my first questions and getting back to me on it. 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:10.291 Thank you. Certainly, certainly. 00:13:10.291 --> 00:13:12.606 Any more questions? No, sir. 00:13:12.606 --> 00:13:14.298 I appreciate that, 00:13:14.298 --> 00:13:16.801 and I appreciate the work that you're doing, Commissioner. 00:13:16.801 --> 00:13:19.662 It's something I think that I wanna brag about our staff, 00:13:19.662 --> 00:13:21.545 our Railroad Commission, 00:13:21.545 --> 00:13:23.292 and looking at the historical records, 00:13:23.292 --> 00:13:26.135 again, the Railroad Commission of Texas 00:13:26.135 --> 00:13:29.524 was one of the first environmentally concerned organizations 00:13:29.524 --> 00:13:31.837 in the nation, perhaps the world 00:13:31.837 --> 00:13:33.793 that was concerned with cleanliness. 00:13:33.793 --> 00:13:35.847 And my gosh, I can remember back in the, 00:13:35.847 --> 00:13:37.630 I can't remember back, but I remember that 00:13:37.630 --> 00:13:39.421 one of the first-- So you can? 00:13:39.421 --> 00:13:42.651 How far back are you going? When I was a child, okay? 00:13:42.651 --> 00:13:44.896 Kilgore, Texas had all this, I mean, 00:13:44.896 --> 00:13:46.324 it was one barrack after another. 00:13:46.324 --> 00:13:47.767 Dirty, muddy streets. 00:13:47.767 --> 00:13:50.019 You can go to the museum in the Kilgore and see, 00:13:50.019 --> 00:13:52.241 and it was the Railroad Commission of Texas 00:13:52.241 --> 00:13:54.249 that came in and cleaned up that thing. 00:13:54.249 --> 00:13:57.144 It increased the regulations, the spacing issues. 00:13:57.144 --> 00:14:00.171 I mean, it was invented by this institution. 00:14:00.171 --> 00:14:03.717 And it's kind of interesting to me that so little 00:14:03.717 --> 00:14:06.857 is known that when people gripe 00:14:06.857 --> 00:14:09.937 about the environmental issues and whatever, 00:14:09.937 --> 00:14:14.161 here's our staff in the organization for decades. 00:14:14.161 --> 00:14:16.694 I mean, the federal government admits 00:14:16.694 --> 00:14:19.520 and openly brags that in the past 50 years, 00:14:19.520 --> 00:14:24.270 we've decreased every EPA heinous gas by 77 plus percent. 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:29.923 Environmental deaths are down 99% 00:14:29.923 --> 00:14:32.597 since the last 100 years. 00:14:32.597 --> 00:14:36.225 It's just, I don't remember in the 2017 study 00:14:36.225 --> 00:14:39.893 that came back from the feds and from our Commission jointly 00:14:39.893 --> 00:14:42.606 that they could not find primary drinking water 00:14:42.606 --> 00:14:45.016 or even secondary resources drinking water 00:14:45.016 --> 00:14:47.461 that had been polluted for injection wells 00:14:47.461 --> 00:14:48.828 or disposal wells. 00:14:48.828 --> 00:14:49.786 And it goes on and on. 00:14:49.786 --> 00:14:51.006 The world's not perfect. 00:14:51.006 --> 00:14:53.914 We've got these problems, but that you're following this 00:14:53.914 --> 00:14:56.476 is such an example that I commend you, Commissioner, 00:14:56.476 --> 00:14:58.295 that we continue to follow it 00:14:58.295 --> 00:15:01.255 and correct things as best we can. 00:15:01.255 --> 00:15:05.174 In fact, it's amazing that flaring right now is, I think, 00:15:05.174 --> 00:15:07.009 anybody can correct me if I'm wrong, 00:15:07.009 --> 00:15:08.822 I'm usually wrong a lot of times. 00:15:08.822 --> 00:15:12.793 I think it's 0.55%, one half a percent. 00:15:12.793 --> 00:15:17.126 Almost 99.5% of natural gas is not being flared 00:15:17.990 --> 00:15:19.447 in the state of Texas. 00:15:19.447 --> 00:15:22.066 And that's just astounding to me. 00:15:22.066 --> 00:15:26.911 I think you hear so much negative in the media, the press. 00:15:26.911 --> 00:15:29.504 And the voters, the citizens are not aware 00:15:29.504 --> 00:15:33.287 of the good job our staff and this industry has done 00:15:33.287 --> 00:15:35.252 for a cleaner environment, 00:15:35.252 --> 00:15:37.917 the cleanest industrialized nation on the planet. 00:15:37.917 --> 00:15:40.881 Chairman, I think the Railroad Commission this year 00:15:40.881 --> 00:15:44.637 especially has done a great job about other ideas 00:15:44.637 --> 00:15:46.225 of what we do with flared gas 00:15:46.225 --> 00:15:48.307 and how we create more of a market for that. 00:15:48.307 --> 00:15:50.278 I'm so proud of our division 00:15:50.278 --> 00:15:52.188 that's been really on top of that. 00:15:52.188 --> 00:15:55.634 But I'm concerned now about did we get parts 00:15:55.634 --> 00:15:58.455 to go out and fix the problems that we have in the field? 00:15:58.455 --> 00:16:01.092 And you know, it's like we take one step forward 00:16:01.092 --> 00:16:03.002 and sometimes we get a step back. 00:16:03.002 --> 00:16:04.574 And I don't know how we control 00:16:04.574 --> 00:16:05.938 any of those issues right now 00:16:05.938 --> 00:16:08.318 with the way that our supply chain is. 00:16:08.318 --> 00:16:09.834 So that's got me concerned. 00:16:09.834 --> 00:16:10.787 Yes, yes. 00:16:10.787 --> 00:16:15.188 But again, very clearly that is of no fault of any people 00:16:15.188 --> 00:16:16.723 of the Railroad Commission of Texas. 00:16:16.723 --> 00:16:18.314 Not at all. And that you're aware 00:16:18.314 --> 00:16:20.463 of it and watching it is our job to monitor. 00:16:20.463 --> 00:16:21.815 And they're doing a darn good job 00:16:21.815 --> 00:16:23.027 and you're doing a darn good job. 00:16:23.027 --> 00:16:24.983 Appreciate you for it Thank you, I appreciate it. 00:16:24.983 --> 00:16:26.999 You wanna say anything (indistinct)? 00:16:26.999 --> 00:16:28.310 I don't doing anything-- 00:16:28.310 --> 00:16:30.711 (indistinct) 00:16:30.711 --> 00:16:33.414 I think agency has, historically, I agree. 00:16:33.414 --> 00:16:34.705 They've done a very good job, 00:16:34.705 --> 00:16:36.808 and I appreciate not just this agency, 00:16:36.808 --> 00:16:40.014 but this industry trying to work and move the ball forward 00:16:40.014 --> 00:16:41.893 and have best practices in the state. 00:16:41.893 --> 00:16:44.135 I think we have a good history of that, 00:16:44.135 --> 00:16:46.266 and I appreciate what this agency's doing 00:16:46.266 --> 00:16:48.506 and what our people do. 00:16:48.506 --> 00:16:53.183 It's great to be a part of these three Commissioners, 00:16:53.183 --> 00:16:54.797 I think are great team. 00:16:54.797 --> 00:16:56.947 I appreciate both of you, the work you do, 00:16:56.947 --> 00:16:59.983 and it is an honor to work for historically 00:16:59.983 --> 00:17:01.714 this agency, this Commission. 00:17:01.714 --> 00:17:03.197 It really is an honor. 00:17:03.197 --> 00:17:05.327 Okay, let's move on to agendas. 00:17:05.327 --> 00:17:09.091 There are 63 items in the Consent Agenda, all right? 00:17:09.091 --> 00:17:11.824 I move to approve items 15-77. 00:17:11.824 --> 00:17:13.318 Is there a second? Second. 00:17:13.318 --> 00:17:14.665 Second by Commissioner Wright. 00:17:14.665 --> 00:17:17.773 All in favor, say aye. Aye. 00:17:17.773 --> 00:17:18.660 Any opposed? 00:17:18.660 --> 00:17:21.192 Motion passes, those items are approved. 00:17:21.192 --> 00:17:24.178 Move on to the master default orders. 00:17:24.178 --> 00:17:26.565 There are eight master default orders. 00:17:26.565 --> 00:17:30.665 Staff request we pass items 86 to the next conference, 00:17:30.665 --> 00:17:34.140 so I move that we approve item 78-85, 00:17:34.140 --> 00:17:36.741 and pass item 86 to the next conference. 00:17:36.741 --> 00:17:38.096 Is there a second? Second. 00:17:38.096 --> 00:17:39.356 Second by Commissioner Craddick. 00:17:39.356 --> 00:17:41.273 All in favor, say aye. Aye. 00:17:41.273 --> 00:17:42.447 Any opposed? 00:17:42.447 --> 00:17:45.043 Motion passes, those items are approved. 00:17:45.043 --> 00:17:47.410 Let's move on to agreed enforcement orders. 00:17:47.410 --> 00:17:49.972 There are 118 agreed enforcement orders. 00:17:49.972 --> 00:17:53.162 I move that we approve items 87-204. 00:17:53.162 --> 00:17:54.715 Is there a second? Second. 00:17:54.715 --> 00:17:56.037 Second by Commissioner Wright. 00:17:56.037 --> 00:17:57.772 All in favor, say aye. Aye. 00:17:57.772 --> 00:17:58.648 Any opposed? 00:17:58.648 --> 00:18:00.700 Motion passes, those items are approved. 00:18:00.700 --> 00:18:02.550 That concludes the hearing section. 00:18:02.550 --> 00:18:05.180 We will now take up our administrative agenda. 00:18:05.180 --> 00:18:08.990 Agenda item 205 is the Executive Director Report. 00:18:08.990 --> 00:18:10.804 Good morning, Chairman and Commissioners. 00:18:10.804 --> 00:18:13.589 Wei Wang, executive director of the agency. 00:18:13.589 --> 00:18:16.440 As we come off the summer and get into the fall, 00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:18.160 I thought I'd give y'all a quick update 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:20.966 on the agency actions we have taken so far 00:18:20.966 --> 00:18:23.470 in terms of weather winter preparation 00:18:23.470 --> 00:18:25.060 for the upcoming winter. 00:18:25.060 --> 00:18:28.540 So back in March, when ERCOT revised their application form 00:18:28.540 --> 00:18:30.030 for critical load designation, 00:18:30.030 --> 00:18:32.040 which they allowed oil field services 00:18:32.040 --> 00:18:34.410 to be eligible for that designation, 00:18:34.410 --> 00:18:36.640 we send out a letter and notice or operator 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:39.370 to all of the operators under our jurisdiction 00:18:39.370 --> 00:18:41.960 asking them to apply for that designation. 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:43.290 And earlier this month, 00:18:43.290 --> 00:18:46.340 we also send out another notice to operator 00:18:46.340 --> 00:18:49.250 asking all operators to take all necessary actions, 00:18:49.250 --> 00:18:51.500 to prepare for the upcoming winter. 00:18:51.500 --> 00:18:53.630 In addition to that, we also reminded them 00:18:53.630 --> 00:18:56.210 to update their critical load designation 00:18:56.210 --> 00:18:59.020 and submit that information to their electric providers. 00:18:59.020 --> 00:19:00.610 And as recent as last week, 00:19:00.610 --> 00:19:03.860 we send out a third reminder telling operators 00:19:03.860 --> 00:19:07.180 to submit their application to their electric providers, 00:19:07.180 --> 00:19:09.800 their utilities by November 1st. 00:19:09.800 --> 00:19:11.920 In addition to that, as operators started 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:14.040 making modification to their facilities 00:19:14.040 --> 00:19:16.920 and during the fall to prepare for the upcoming winter, 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:19.740 we're sending our inspectors to these facilities 00:19:19.740 --> 00:19:21.890 to physically make observation, 00:19:21.890 --> 00:19:25.270 assess the situation, and also ask questions. 00:19:25.270 --> 00:19:27.430 So as of last week, we have visited 00:19:27.430 --> 00:19:30.310 over 300 facilities already. 00:19:30.310 --> 00:19:33.700 Our goal was to focus on the large producing leases, 00:19:33.700 --> 00:19:37.090 the gas processing plants and their ground storages, 00:19:37.090 --> 00:19:38.820 and transmission pipelines, 00:19:38.820 --> 00:19:42.480 as well as disposal wells to perform site visits, 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:45.236 make observation, and ask their staff on site 00:19:45.236 --> 00:19:48.320 about their plans and process and technology 00:19:48.320 --> 00:19:51.520 and equipment they're using for this upcoming winter. 00:19:51.520 --> 00:19:54.700 And we'll continue to do that throughout this winter. 00:19:54.700 --> 00:19:56.850 So again, that's just a quick update, 00:19:56.850 --> 00:19:59.090 and I'll continue to provide more update 00:19:59.090 --> 00:20:04.090 as we proceed with our plan for the site visits. 00:20:04.700 --> 00:20:06.540 So I'm available for questions. 00:20:06.540 --> 00:20:08.700 Wei, I'd like to say you guys have done 00:20:08.700 --> 00:20:11.920 a really good job about working with PUC here. 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:14.550 What I've seen this past couple of months. 00:20:14.550 --> 00:20:15.383 Great job. 00:20:15.383 --> 00:20:16.853 Thank you for leading that. 00:20:18.167 --> 00:20:20.760 And Wei, I appreciate you and the staff. 00:20:20.760 --> 00:20:24.829 And a couple weeks ago, I was out in Midland, Texas 00:20:24.829 --> 00:20:29.250 at an event and I was approached by some of the folks 00:20:29.250 --> 00:20:32.870 in the industry there that acquainted me with the fact 00:20:32.870 --> 00:20:35.470 that you had appeared before Senate Committee 00:20:35.470 --> 00:20:38.310 and that you were treated very disrespectfully. 00:20:38.310 --> 00:20:41.860 And I continue to receive that from different people 00:20:41.860 --> 00:20:43.470 in the industry that watched that. 00:20:43.470 --> 00:20:46.700 I want you to know that this Commission appreciates, 00:20:46.700 --> 00:20:49.340 supports, honors your work. 00:20:49.340 --> 00:20:52.700 You're one of the, you're a leader that we're proud of. 00:20:52.700 --> 00:20:56.760 And we, I apologize personally, 00:20:56.760 --> 00:20:59.770 how disappointed I am as how the Senate treated you 00:20:59.770 --> 00:21:01.200 in that situation. 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:02.210 It was inappropriate. 00:21:02.210 --> 00:21:03.250 It was rude. 00:21:03.250 --> 00:21:04.490 It was arrogant. 00:21:04.490 --> 00:21:06.600 It was everything that we don't like. 00:21:06.600 --> 00:21:09.060 And just want to let you know that I'm sorry 00:21:09.060 --> 00:21:10.540 that you experienced that 00:21:10.540 --> 00:21:13.790 and disappointed that our friends in the Senate 00:21:13.790 --> 00:21:15.850 decided to do that on that occasion. 00:21:15.850 --> 00:21:17.830 And there's a lot in the industry 00:21:17.830 --> 00:21:21.070 that are still talking about how unprofessional 00:21:21.070 --> 00:21:22.620 that entire situation was. 00:21:22.620 --> 00:21:26.350 So we appreciate you and want you to know that we are sorry 00:21:26.350 --> 00:21:29.300 you had to endure that, and thank you for your good work. 00:21:29.300 --> 00:21:30.133 Thanks, sir. 00:21:30.133 --> 00:21:31.870 I think, you know, I just wanna take the opportunity 00:21:31.870 --> 00:21:36.300 to say we have a culture here of one agency, one team. 00:21:36.300 --> 00:21:38.820 And everybody on our staff has been helping 00:21:38.820 --> 00:21:42.240 our newly created Critical Infrastructure Division. 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:45.890 We're actively hiring staff with our own gas division 00:21:45.890 --> 00:21:47.870 and our pipeline safety department. 00:21:47.870 --> 00:21:50.010 They've been sharing their inspectors 00:21:50.010 --> 00:21:51.760 to help with the site visits, 00:21:51.760 --> 00:21:53.930 and everybody is coming together, you know, 00:21:53.930 --> 00:21:58.260 on the multiple sections that's requiring the bill 00:21:58.260 --> 00:22:01.610 that we're all working together as one agency, one team 00:22:01.610 --> 00:22:04.550 to make sure that we are doing all we can 00:22:04.550 --> 00:22:06.430 to prepare for this upcoming winter. 00:22:06.430 --> 00:22:09.870 Well, and literally almost 1,000, 00:22:09.870 --> 00:22:11.650 how many total employees do we now have? 00:22:11.650 --> 00:22:13.420 We have a about 840. 00:22:13.420 --> 00:22:17.550 840 employees, and this agency are good folks 00:22:17.550 --> 00:22:19.140 across the state of Texas. 00:22:19.140 --> 00:22:23.330 We appreciate you, and we indeed are proud to be 00:22:23.330 --> 00:22:25.440 part of the team that's working to help the citizens 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:26.920 of Texas protect them and make sure 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:29.650 that we look over their natural resources appropriately, 00:22:29.650 --> 00:22:31.280 and honor you for the good work that you 00:22:31.280 --> 00:22:32.970 and all of our workers do. 00:22:32.970 --> 00:22:34.110 Thank you, sir. Thank you. 00:22:34.110 --> 00:22:35.670 And if I could just add, 00:22:35.670 --> 00:22:37.970 thank you, Wei, 'cause you and your team, 00:22:37.970 --> 00:22:40.130 you've got a whole group of them, 00:22:40.130 --> 00:22:44.200 not just on point and on task, all of them, 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:45.870 but frankly ahead of the game. 00:22:45.870 --> 00:22:48.970 So we appreciate it and y'all have reacted 00:22:48.970 --> 00:22:51.710 very appropriately and very quickly, I believe. 00:22:51.710 --> 00:22:55.820 And so, we are really appreciative of what you're doing 00:22:55.820 --> 00:22:58.562 and thank you for being very engaged 00:22:58.562 --> 00:23:00.350 and being a leader on this, 00:23:00.350 --> 00:23:03.860 'cause I think this agency has come back with good feedback 00:23:03.860 --> 00:23:06.730 and good information and are doing a good job 00:23:06.730 --> 00:23:07.563 across the board. 00:23:07.563 --> 00:23:09.210 So thank you for what you're doing 00:23:09.210 --> 00:23:10.850 and thank you for your team. 00:23:10.850 --> 00:23:11.683 Thank you. 00:23:11.683 --> 00:23:13.930 Thank you. Thanks, Wei. 00:23:13.930 --> 00:23:15.083 Randall Collins. 00:23:17.050 --> 00:23:18.750 Bring us words of wisdom, Randall. 00:23:19.760 --> 00:23:20.790 Or cut the mic off. 00:23:20.790 --> 00:23:22.109 Yeah, cut the mic off. 00:23:22.109 --> 00:23:24.582 (laughter) 00:23:24.582 --> 00:23:26.431 At least I probably (indistinct). 00:23:26.431 --> 00:23:28.387 (laughter) 00:23:28.387 --> 00:23:30.410 Chairman, Commissioners, for the record, 00:23:30.410 --> 00:23:32.630 I am Randall Collins, chief operating officer 00:23:32.630 --> 00:23:34.490 and stand up comedian. 00:23:34.490 --> 00:23:37.150 Item number 206 on the agenda seeks Commission approval 00:23:37.150 --> 00:23:39.550 for two solicitations and a contract amendment 00:23:39.550 --> 00:23:42.400 pursuant to the Commission's delegation of authority 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:46.770 and section 2261.254 Texas Government Code. 00:23:46.770 --> 00:23:49.298 The Commission's internal delegation of authority 00:23:49.298 --> 00:23:52.230 requires Commission approval for contracts 00:23:52.230 --> 00:23:54.470 in excess of $1 million. 00:23:54.470 --> 00:23:59.470 Section 2261.254 of Texas Government Code, 00:24:00.170 --> 00:24:03.440 requires approval of contracts and associated amendments 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:05.220 greater than $1 million 00:24:05.220 --> 00:24:08.070 or contracts for outside legal services. 00:24:08.070 --> 00:24:11.610 At issue today are two contracts or solicitations 00:24:11.610 --> 00:24:14.860 and one amended contract for site remediation. 00:24:14.860 --> 00:24:16.500 Approval of these items today 00:24:16.500 --> 00:24:18.460 will ensure the agency's continued development 00:24:18.460 --> 00:24:20.780 of the critical infrastructure division 00:24:20.780 --> 00:24:22.100 in compliance with SB three, 00:24:22.100 --> 00:24:24.980 and that the Commission remains on schedule 00:24:24.980 --> 00:24:26.720 in site remediation projects, 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:28.800 along with the necessary approvals 00:24:28.800 --> 00:24:30.900 pursuant to the Commission's delegation of authority 00:24:30.900 --> 00:24:32.370 and state law. 00:24:32.370 --> 00:24:35.650 The summary of the two critical infrastructure contracts 00:24:35.650 --> 00:24:38.870 and the site remediation amendment details and amounts 00:24:38.870 --> 00:24:40.670 are included in your notebooks. 00:24:40.670 --> 00:24:43.140 Staff requests Commission to approve the contracts 00:24:43.140 --> 00:24:45.980 and amendments and I'm available if you have any questions. 00:24:45.980 --> 00:24:48.670 Are there any questions, members? 00:24:48.670 --> 00:24:50.270 I move we approve these contracts. 00:24:50.270 --> 00:24:51.850 Is there a second. Second. 00:24:51.850 --> 00:24:52.910 Second by Commissioner Craddick. 00:24:52.910 --> 00:24:55.040 All in favor, say aye. Aye. 00:24:55.040 --> 00:24:56.010 Any opposed? 00:24:56.010 --> 00:24:57.880 Motion passes, that item is approved. 00:24:57.880 --> 00:24:59.390 Thank you. Thank you. 00:24:59.390 --> 00:25:03.530 Agenda item 207 is the proposed internal audit plan 00:25:03.530 --> 00:25:05.670 for fiscal year 2022. 00:25:05.670 --> 00:25:07.560 Good morning, Chairman and Commissioners. 00:25:07.560 --> 00:25:08.750 Dor the record, my name is Paul Delaney. 00:25:08.750 --> 00:25:11.200 I'm the internal auditor for the Railroad Commission. 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:13.480 Section 2102 of the Texas Government Code 00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:15.320 requires each state agency 00:25:15.320 --> 00:25:17.360 to prepare an annual audit plan, 00:25:17.360 --> 00:25:19.260 and then submit a copy of that plan 00:25:19.260 --> 00:25:23.130 to the State Auditor's office by November 1st of each year. 00:25:23.130 --> 00:25:24.520 As a result of that requirement, 00:25:24.520 --> 00:25:27.040 I conducted an agency-wide risk assessment. 00:25:27.040 --> 00:25:29.725 I received input from executive management, 00:25:29.725 --> 00:25:31.420 and then I developed the audit plan 00:25:31.420 --> 00:25:33.330 that you have before you. 00:25:33.330 --> 00:25:36.980 If any of the proposed audits are not completed in FY 22, 00:25:36.980 --> 00:25:39.510 they'll be added to the following year's plan. 00:25:39.510 --> 00:25:41.640 I'm requesting that the audit plan be approved, 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:43.640 and I'm available to answer any questions. 00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:45.440 Are there any questions, members? 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:47.870 I move we approve the proposed internal audit plan 00:25:47.870 --> 00:25:50.030 for the fiscal year 2022. 00:25:50.030 --> 00:25:51.320 Is there a second. Second. 00:25:51.320 --> 00:25:52.610 Second by Commissioner Wright. 00:25:52.610 --> 00:25:54.980 All in favor, say aye. Aye. 00:25:54.980 --> 00:25:56.010 Any opposed? 00:25:56.010 --> 00:25:57.820 Motion passes, that item is approved. 00:25:57.820 --> 00:25:59.520 Thank you. thank you. 00:25:59.520 --> 00:26:01.790 Agenda item 208 is an update 00:26:01.790 --> 00:26:03.603 from the Office of General Counsel. 00:26:04.600 --> 00:26:06.220 Good morning, Chairman, Commissioners. 00:26:06.220 --> 00:26:08.430 I'm David Cooney from the Office of General Counsel. 00:26:08.430 --> 00:26:09.520 We have nothing to report 00:26:09.520 --> 00:26:12.400 on the federal litigation side of this, 00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:14.830 but hold onto your hats, 00:26:14.830 --> 00:26:16.480 EPA is expected to publish 00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:20.920 its oil and gas methane emission rules this week. 00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:23.310 Staff has poised and ready to cooperate 00:26:23.310 --> 00:26:25.700 as we have traditionally on these rules 00:26:25.700 --> 00:26:29.600 with our sister agencies, the TCEQ and the PUC. 00:26:29.600 --> 00:26:32.930 We will be formulating comments once we see them 00:26:32.930 --> 00:26:36.220 and keep you posted of developments as they occur. 00:26:36.220 --> 00:26:37.890 Thank you, that's very significant. 00:26:37.890 --> 00:26:38.860 Appreciate you watching that. 00:26:38.860 --> 00:26:40.970 That's a high cost risk 00:26:40.970 --> 00:26:44.528 to the entire Governor family in the United States. 00:26:44.528 --> 00:26:45.720 Very dangerous. 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:46.553 Thank you, Dave. 00:26:47.610 --> 00:26:50.910 Agenda 209 item is our public participation item. 00:26:50.910 --> 00:26:52.290 No one is registered indicating 00:26:52.290 --> 00:26:55.820 that they wish to speak on any nonposted items. 00:26:55.820 --> 00:26:58.714 Agenda item 210 is our executive session item, 00:26:58.714 --> 00:27:01.330 which we will not be going into today. 00:27:01.330 --> 00:27:03.330 Are there any other duly posted matters 00:27:03.330 --> 00:27:06.100 to be brought before the Commission at this time? 00:27:06.100 --> 00:27:07.950 Hearing none, this meeting of the Railroad Commission 00:27:07.950 --> 00:27:10.510 of Texas is adjourned. 00:27:10.510 --> 00:27:11.960 Can I carry my water with me?