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We will now return to all of our commenters
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that we have in our comment queue.
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Operator, Could you please call the next caller?
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Our next caller is Kent Bullard.
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You may go ahead.
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Good day Commissioners.
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My name is Kent Bullard.
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I live in Ventura, California.
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I have invested in having solar on my rooftop since 1994,
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which is generated a 100% of my electrical needs.
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I am opposed to the proposed NEM 3.0e decision.
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There should be no solar grid charge or tax.
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Rooftops solar saves all consumers money.
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As it prevents the need to construct new power generation
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and distribution facilities.
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Rooftop, solar places, the generation where it is needed
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in our community.
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If I have extra electricity and it is exported to the grid,
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do not make me pay for that.
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Figure a way of letting me donate it to my needy neighbors,
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but do not impose charges for us to provide
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energy to the grid.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Marlow Wilson.
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You may go ahead.
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This is Marlow Wilson from Berkeley.
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I did my part and installed rooftop solar.
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I also agree with everything said so far,
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but it's all used my time to emphasize that NEM 3.0
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is about PG&E profits.
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It parallels PG&E scam decades ago
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when they asked foreign, got raid hikes to upgrade
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their infrastructure and do maintenance.
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They didn't do all the work they agreed to do,
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the result, explosions and fires
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that have destroyed communities and killed people.
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They continue to play the same game.
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They've been held criminally liable.
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They violate their probation.
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They want to renege on their contracts.
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The CPUC is supposed to protect the public.
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Doesn't the P stand for public?
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PG&EO on the other hand is all about their profits.
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Supporting NEM is supporting the agenda of criminals.
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Who do you wanna support, the public or the criminals?
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Michael Sakamoto.
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You may go ahead.
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[Michael Sakamoto] Commissioners.
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Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you today.
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My basic argument much like those you've heard before,
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runs around the fact that in 2017,
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my wife and I invested a net $30,000
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in putting in a solar system.
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And now when we signed that agreement,
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we signed it with a understanding that it was an agreement
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between PG&E and my family and the CPUC
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in the state of California,
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that this was gonna be the rules.
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And now everybody's trying to change the rules.
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It's not fair and it's not right.
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Let alone the fact that you're destroying
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a viable business in solar energy.
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It's not right.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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And our next caller is Mona Kinkle. You may go ahead.
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Hi?
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My name is Mona Kinkle
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and I live in Encinitas, California.
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I purchased solar panels for my home in August, 2021.
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The panels were an investment of $21,000.
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I chose solar primarily due to climate change
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and for our planet.
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The agreement with PG&E my supplier
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was an important part of the financial decision.
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Less than six months ago,
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PG&E made an agreement with me for 20 years.
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Now, I hear that PG&E is requesting
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to void that agreement and reduce it to 15 years.
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That's wrong.
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It should be illegal.
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If allowed it ha sends an important message
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loud and clear that you can't count on an agreement
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with your electric company.
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Solar power is the right thing to do.
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There should be no tax of any kind.
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I want the utility Commission and Governor Newsom
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to reject this proposal and to protect rooftop solar,
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no solar tax, net metering that is fair
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and honor the 20 year agreements.
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Anything less is unacceptable.
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Thank you.
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Operator next caller please.
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Our next caller is Mellow Leeds. You may go ahead.
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Hello.
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My name is me Mellow Leeds,
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speaking on behalf of the North County Climate
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Change Alliance, nonprofit in San Diego.
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And I would like to thank you for the opportunity to speak
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and for igniting a firestorm of public outcry against
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efforts to impose the highest solar taxes in the country
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through your NEM 3.0 proposal.
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Let's be perfectly clear.
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Economics and science have spoken rooftop
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solar is now the cheapest form of electricity acquisition
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for ratepayers at the exact moment in history
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when rapid decarbonization is crucial in avoiding
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the most catastrophic effects in climate change.
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As president Jimmy Carter's dated in 1979,
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no one can ever embargo the sun.
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Today in 2022, I implore you to cease your attempts
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to embargo rooftop solar, and our clean energy future.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Peter stern.
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You may go ahead.
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Hello.
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I just got off mute.
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It's a lie that net metering discriminates
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against non-solar ratepayers and that solar
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doesn't pay its own way.
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The truth is that over a million consumers
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have installed solar with their own money in California.
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It provides multiple gigawatts of electricity
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to the utilities when they need it most during peak hours,
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it's a massive electricity infrastructure
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that the utility companies didn't invest
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a penny into building.
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It's free electricity to them that they sell
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to our neighbors at a massive profit.
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And in fact, the grid would collapse during the summer
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if solar didn't exist.
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There are only two opponents to solar,
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utility companies that are threatened
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because their predatory rates and practices
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drive consumers to solar and the electrical unions
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who oppose solar because the vast majority of the million
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plus solar installations were installed by non-union labor.
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It's your job to put the best interests
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of California's consumers first.
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So please do your job and protect consumers from monopolies.
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Opposed NEM as proposed by the utilities and the unions.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Steven Pope.
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You may go ahead.
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Good afternoon.
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When California deregulated electric utilities in 1996
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citizens were promised lower rates through competition
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and investor supported the infrastructure.
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While the utilities quickly reneged on this agreement,
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not to raise their rates.
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And we're now only realizing how badly
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the infrastructure is neglected.
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Fast forward into current events.
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We see Southern California Edison's rates and fees
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increasing to finance infrastructure, Pete,
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while their regular stockholder dividends steadily rise.
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My tone of OHI was 100% surrounded by the 2017 Thomas fire,
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which was sparked by Southern California
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Edison's antiquated equipment.
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My wife and I live in a senior subject development
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where I operate an amateur radio emergency service hub,
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and hope to offer a cool house to our neighbors in the event
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of another power outage during a heat emergency.
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I'd like to stress that widespread solar panels
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decrease the cost of long distance power lines,
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saving utilities millions of dollars.
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And to remind you that the state has set a goal
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of a 100% clean energy by 2045,
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why would you move in the opposite direction?
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Thank you very much.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Heather Hoff.
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You may go ahead.
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Hi.
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I care about climate change and clean energy.
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I want more clean energy
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and this here's something different for you.
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Adding more solar right now isn't helping.
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I urge everyone on this call to clean is look at the ISO
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today app from the California system operator,
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which clearly shows a huge peak of solar every day.
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That's great.
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What's not great is the even bigger peak
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of natural gas and imports after the sunset.
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This time is where we need more clean energy
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and solar can't provide it.
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We can't fix our climate and lower emissions
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with good intentions.
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I'm honestly sorry for all those that have built
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businesses and careers that now feel threatened.
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But as unpopular as this might seem,
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the net metering program is broken.
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And this is just the start in the right direction.
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Removal of the subsidy is not attacked.
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I support pane solar owners appropriately
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for the electricity they generate.
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I also care about social justice and see how everyone,
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even those who do not benefit is currently paying for it.
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We need clean energy technology that can deliver
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when we need it and the solar industry.
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It's your chance to prove it.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is from Sarah Greenwell.
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You may go ahead.
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Hello.
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My name is Sarah Greenwell.
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I live in San Francisco county
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and I'm scared about climate change.
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I'm also scared about what will happen
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as the crisis gets worse and we're scrambling
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over each other to do what has to be done
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including improve as what said improve
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the storage power that we have for home solar.
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But home solar is the gentlest way for us to go solar
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without taking a lot of space in the desert for solar panels
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or just committing a lot of rushed errors.
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So, I oppose the proposed decision.
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We don't need a solar tax.
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We need to make solar more affordable for working
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and middle class households.
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We must honor the existing 20 year protection
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for solar users.
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And by the way, the fossil fuel companies
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must start planning, training their workers
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to shift to the many other uses that can be made,
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must be made of their equipment and knowhow.
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There's no getting around it.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator?
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Next caller, please.
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Our next caller is John spasky.
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You may go ahead.
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My name is John spasky,
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I'm resident of San Lupo.
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I'm opposed to the recommended decision that places
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an owner grid access charge of solar customers.
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Solar should be affordable to working
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and middle class households.
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rooftop solar has played in a critical role in reducing
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California's climate greenhouse gas emissions,
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and needs to play an expanded role as California's
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to meet its climate change goals.
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The recommended decision is based on a recently updated now
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floor avoided cost calculated that distorts and understands
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the value of rooftop solar.
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As a result, the decision is flawed, myopic,
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and needs to be revisited.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Dolores Diaz. You may go ahead.
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Good afternoon.
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Can you hear me?
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Yes we can, please proceed.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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My name is Dolores Diaz and I am a homeowner in Chula Vista.
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And the purpose of my comment today
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is I want to echo whatever has said.
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I like many others rarely practice public comment,
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but the proposed decision to impose the solar taxes
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compels me to come and address you and the Governor today,
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I carefully weigh the crafted arguments
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posed by the utilities companies.
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And I can assure you that for every utility company
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argument, there's a stronger counter from the people.
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I'm raising my voice today to plead that you not impose
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any solar tax, not a cent.
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If you do, you'll hurt me and thousands of others like me,
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we don't have the resources to buy the ads
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that influence decision makers.
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So Governor Newsom, you said more work needs to be done.
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It's simple.
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Be courageous and say no to solar tax.
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Scrap the proposal.
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Be the hero we need you to be.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Jeremy Pearl.
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You may go ahead.
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Hello.
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My name is Jeremy Pearl.
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I'm the sales manager at Sandbar Solar here in California.
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I've been in the solar industry for over 15 years
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and Sandbar Solar has been in business since 2004.
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The current proposed net metering policy changes
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would devastate the solar industry in California
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and would decimate our 50 plus person company
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along with 60,000 solar jobs including my own.
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Growth and survival of solar plus storage market
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requires sound and forward thinking leadership
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from our policy makers.
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The current proposed decision to NEM 3.0
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must be significantly revised or rewritten entirely
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with honest inclusion of voices and interest from all sides,
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your job is to advocate for and create policy
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for the citizens of California.
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The current PD does not... does the opposite.
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The current PD does the opposite.
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Here's what we want.
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Eliminate the punitive monthly solar fees,
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structure a gradual step down across many years
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for the rate.
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Customers are credited for that solar energy,
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scrap the one sided ACC as it is deeply flawed.
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Lastly, maintain the 20 year grandfathering period
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for NEM one and named customers.
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The proposed changes to them will make a rooftop solar
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too expensive and unattainable
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for low and middle class families.
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Making solar luxury only the rich can afford.
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This would lead to the demise of our thriving industry.
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Is this how the Commissioners wish to leave
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their mark on our state?
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We need NEM three proposal...
(bell ringing)
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Thank you very much for hearing my comments.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Mark Hidinger.
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You may go ahead.
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Thank you.
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Yes.
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My name is Mark Hidinger from San Diego, California,
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and to prepare ourselves for retirement
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and reduce our monthly cost 15 years ago,
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my wife and I purchased a solar system at a cost
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of over $30,000 after all incentives.
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Two years ago,
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we added an additional $10,000 to purchase batteries.
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We have two electric cars, now that we are retired
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and on a fixed income,
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the electric companies wanna now increase our monthly costs
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and charge us for doing the right thing.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Operator next caller please.
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Our next caller is Suzanne Saunders.
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You may go ahead.
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[Suzanne Saunders] Hi, my name is Suey Saunders
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and I'm with indivisible Ross valley.
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The new proposal must include no solar tax
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of any kind, not one cent.
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My representatives, hus, Huffman and Feinstein,
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and many other state and federal politicians
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approach of proposal.
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They understand that is a utility lie
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that lower income residents pay for the energy
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provided by rooftop solar.
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I borrowed 20,000 to install solar panels
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so I could charge my electric vehicle cleanly.
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Electric vehicles can act as battery storage
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for solar, so they can solve the need
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for rooftop solar storage.
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Utilities are adding storage stations to harness
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this rooftop solar and use this clean power source at night.
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The real rise in electricity bills
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is due to utility caused fires.
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Utilities will need more lines causing these fires
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if we depend on distant solar farms to avoid
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polluting fossil fuels.
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Utilities cannot produce or buy enough clean energy
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to replace what would be lost
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from a declining rooftop, solar.
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California (alarm ringing) when you set aside
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a quarter of its plan to clean solar energy.
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(indistinct)
Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator next caller please.
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Our next caller is Kevin Moore.
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You may ahead.
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Dear Commissioners,
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thank you for the opportunity to speak on behalf
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of the 1.2 million working class homeowners in California
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who have invested in the future of our environment.
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My name is Kevin Moore.
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I'm a California resident living
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in an unincorporated Santa Rosa.
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Due to the inconsistency of the power grid.
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The rising cost utilities and is importantly
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to reduce carbon emissions.
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I installed solar panels on my roof last year.
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This investment was considerable, considering my income.
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I was excited to become more self-sufficient
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with my electrical needs,
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provide a power source at the point of use
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and reduce greenhouse gases to help the environment.
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I understand there's a proposal to add a tax
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to my utility bill and reduce the benefits
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for adding rooftop solar.
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This would be a very poor decision on the part
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of the Commission and Governor Newsom.
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It would contradict the state and federal energy policies
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of the last few decades and undermine
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our community's efforts to promote rooftop solar energy.
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Please don't let all the working class homers
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out of pocket investments go to the pocket
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(bell alarm ringing) of the poorly managed utility
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companies and their shareholders.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for your comments.
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Operator, next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Earl Hoffler.
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You may go ahead.
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Hi, is that Earl Koffler?
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Yes, please proceed.
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(indistinct)
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Hello?
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Yes, we can hear you please proceed.
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Hi.
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I was just about to send an email
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'cause I have to get off the line
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I've been waiting for over four hours,
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four and a half hours.
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I'm a retire fixed income who recently invested
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in solar in my personal home.
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I'm very upset about the proposed law and certainly
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would not have invested in solar in this law.
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Bottom line, I urge you not to change the regulations
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to tax or place fees in solar and in any shape or form.
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If changes are made, I urge tax sources
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of fuel using fossil fuels to recognize
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their environmental impacts and other negative effects.
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I think you should find ways so that the utilities actually
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pay solar a fair price for their energy into the grid.
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The regulation goals should be that the power utilities
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become maintainers of the grid rather than making money
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on energy production or tax where it came from.
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I would like to propose... to point out that the proposed
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changes would wish in our state's increasing problem
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with rolling blackouts due to peak energy
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uses through the summer.
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We have been helping this, but the regulation penalizes us.
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And finally, please don't retroactively impact me
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and the other eight percent or so solar contributors
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who justified in the decisions based
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on the existing incentives.
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Thank you.
(alarm ringing)
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Robert Long.
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You may go ahead.
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Oh, thank you very much
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for taking my call and to the Commissioners themselves.
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My name is Robert Long with pet California,
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and I also represent Gwen and Allen brown
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of Apto and with grandkids.
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And I would just like to say that with great expense,
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both of us have put solar power on our roof.
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And I don't think it's fair that PG&E
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who has disrespected the state and burned down
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so much of our town and cities
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and I don't think they should be rewarded.
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So thank you very much for listening to me right now.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Mara Felsen.
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You may go ahead.
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I'm a homeowner in San Diego
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upset to see the CPuC considering decimating
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the solar industry.
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Every article, every case study everywhere
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that has done what you're considering
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has shown to be a massive failure,
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unless your intention is to kill the industry.
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Government action drives behavior incentives put over
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a million for arrays on spawn rooftops in California
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and removal of incentives will reverse this progress.
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Likewise, the failure of government terrain
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and bad actors has compounded the problem.
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Year after year PG&E causes one monumental disaster
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after another with virtually no consequences,
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but rather than maintain their failing decrepit lines
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they pay themselves massive multi million dollar
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bonuses instead, all the while being saved from bankruptcy.
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How many monumental deadly screwups do we
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as citizens of California and ratepayers
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of this monopolistic utility have to endure?
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Or do we just have to keep paying higher and higher rates
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to a reckless utility that is apparently incapable
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of keeping us safe or managing an ever increasing
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pot of money that we all fund.
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This is Grotes governmental failure.
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Please, reverse course.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Andrew Baskin.
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You may go ahead.
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Hi there.
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I'm Andrew Baskin a homeowner in Menlo park, California.
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I urge you to reject the current proposal and any proposal
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that taxes people just 'cause they happen
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to own solar panels.
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We have a small solar array installed in 2007
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that provides only about 20% of our total electricity usage.
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We can't have a larger system because of surrounding trees,
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but we wanted to do what was right for the environment
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and to reduce our use of electricity from PG&E.
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So, we put a it in at our own expense.
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If the NEM proposal was adopted,
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the only economic choice for us
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and for many others like us with small systems
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would be to deCommission our solar panels
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and disconnect them.
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This is not the right direction for our state.
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The best choice for the environment and for utility
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ratepayers is to have distributed power generation
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and solar on rooftops,
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not industrial PV projects covering countryside,
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and certainly not fossil fuel plants.
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Please reject this proposal and any proposal
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that taxes solar panels.
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Thanks.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Tom Whitehead.
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You may go ahead
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Again, Tom Whitehead.
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Your line is open.
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Please check your mute button.
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Yes.
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I have a rooftop solar system in San Francisco
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and I'm most concerned about the climate implications
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of the current NEM proposal.
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I will be negatively impacted by the increased punitive fees
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for owning a solar system,
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but that doesn't bother me as much as the fact
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that the proposed NEM structure will disincentivize
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new distributed solar throughout California.
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We need more distributed solar and not less.
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We need the jobs and technology
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and manufacturing that this produces.
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We will need to maximize solar and make use of all
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space available for it rather than focusing
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exclusively on big industrial installations
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that encroach upon open space.
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I feel that the CPUC has been listening too much
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(alram wringing) to the IOUs and not enough to citizens.
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Thank you for your comment.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Elena waters.
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You may go ahead.
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Oh, wow.
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Finally.
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So, good afternoon.
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Thank you so much for taking my call.
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My public comment.
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So, I'm concerned about the fact that the public
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was not properly notified about this
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because it's going to impact us.
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And I feel we had a right to be notified prior
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to this going through like it is.
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I read through the documents.
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There's no provisions for medical baseline customers in it,
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low income programs,
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even though they're meant they're not available.
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I've applied three times more recently,
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the most recent denial was on 124
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that they do not service the PG&E area.
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My PG&E bill is between 55 and $90.
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The program would cost about $64
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for an eight kilowatt system for me.
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In addition to that agenda number,
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ID number 20295, they're asking for a 26.22 cent
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increase per kilowatt,
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which is gonna make this substantial.
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And it's already gonna hurt people on time of use.
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Customers are gonna be left with no choice,
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but to go off grid to a hybrid system.
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And that means that in the excess electricity
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is not gonna be fed back to the grid.
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(alarm ringing)
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Okay.
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Thank you so much.
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Have a good day.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Doug Rodman.
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You may go ahead.
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Thank you.
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My name is Doug Rodman and I own eco solar in Concuet.
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I've been in the solar industry for 42 years
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and I'm happy to be on the longest phone call I've ever had.
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Aside from all the other reasons
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that global warming is a bad idea.
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The additional fires that causes
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are responsible for the egregious suffering
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of all other animal species who don't know how to leave
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all their possessions behind and run to safety.
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Very few of them make it out alive during a fire,
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a baby Fox, Coyote or Wolf is no different than your dog.
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Please, can we start to think of the entire ecosystem
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rather than just corporate profit margins?
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Don't cut solar incentives,
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right when the environmental healing has just begun.
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Doubling incentives makes far better sense.
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Mother nature deserves far more respect
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than we have shown her.
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She has given us every single thing we have.
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Thank you for listening.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please..
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Our next caller is John Presley.
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You may go ahead.
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Hi.
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My name is John Presley.
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I live in Monterey and work for solar technologies.
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I've dedicated the past 15 years of my career
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to helping nonprofit profits,
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small and medium business owners reduce
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their electricity expenses with clean,
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renewable onsite, solar energy.
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The rooftop solar and industry has enabled me
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to provide for my family,
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become a homeowner and know that my efforts
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every day help mitigate the worst effects
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of climate change ensuring...
00:27:51.950 --> 00:27:54.553
And it looks like his line is disconnected.
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Please go to the next caller.
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Thank you operator.
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Next caller is a Patricia Saban.
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You may go ahead.
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I am Patricia Shaban
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from Walla Walla, California,
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and has had rooftop solar on my home for years.
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Commissioners, this grid participation charges outrageous.
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We need to continue to support solar clean power,
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to slow global warming, to protect open space
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and reduce the need for costly investment in the grid.
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Burdening solar utility customers with this outrageous
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charge will discourage future solar installations
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and devastate our solar industry.
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Putting California behind in meeting its climate goal.
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Californians want clean,
00:28:41.900 --> 00:28:44.380
renewable green energy sources
00:28:45.832 --> 00:28:48.590
and it's been proven by over 1 million installations
00:28:48.590 --> 00:28:50.640
and the many successful solar companies
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:51.970
throughout our state.
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Please do not approve the outrageous proposed solar tax.
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Thank you for listening.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Julia Lurvusian.
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Your line is open.
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My name is Julia Lurvusian.
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I hail from a combo of San Francisco and Sonoma counties.
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I have found that there are usually two reasons
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why something goes contrary to common sense,
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love and money.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and rule out love.
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In this case, PG&E wants to cover
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present financial deficits,
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but charging more will decrease
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the use and installation of solar.
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Aside from being bad for the planet
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and going contrary to California climate goals,
00:29:46.320 --> 00:29:50.050
it simply goes against common sense.
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Please don't listen to the money.
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Go with common sense.
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Thank you for taking the time to listen
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to all of the commonts.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please..
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Our next caller is Nancy Recher.
00:30:06.460 --> 00:30:07.310
You may go ahead.
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Nancy Recher from Crockett
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and Contra Costa county.
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I am strongly opposed to the financially punitive
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rooftop solar proposal,
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the solar tab and the reneging of the current
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net metering agreement both are giant steps backwards.
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Not only are they out of line with California Clean Energy
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Program, but it is, they are clearly intended
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to economically benefit the current California
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energy companies and their shareholders
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at the expense of a trusting public who like me
00:30:47.830 --> 00:30:50.730
voted with their wallets when they purchased rooftop
00:30:50.730 --> 00:30:53.300
solar systems and electric cars.
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If you are truly serious about helping people
00:30:56.540 --> 00:30:59.020
control their energy bills, avoid blackouts
00:30:59.020 --> 00:31:01.200
and fight climate change.
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You need to encourage more people to install rooftop solar,
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not financially penalize them for doing so.
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Stop the cold hearted bait and switch.
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Thank you.
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Thank you,
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operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is John Lancaster.
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You may go ahead.
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Hi, good afternoon.
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My name's John Lancaster.
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I'm a resident of Oakland, California.
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I'm a builder and an urban environmentalist.
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And as a builder, I know how many jobs are dependent
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on the solar industry and its ability to stay strong
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and keep moving forward.
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There's good momentum moving forward now.
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And many of my peers either have solar
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or leaning on adding it, as an environmentalist
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I would the need to footprint and continue
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towards meeting ourselves off lesser fuel.
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California is already way behind a meeting
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our climate goals and we cannot don't plan report
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or slow downs in California, signed up and board.
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Please don't let sports and Jerry vision a ForSight
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to lead the way in solar,
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be derailed by the CPUC in our current Governor
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and being a long fighter for environmentalism.
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I just have to wonder whether or not one
00:32:22.210 --> 00:32:23.650
of the previous callers was correct,
00:32:23.650 --> 00:32:27.271
and that this is a smoke screen so that they can step back
00:32:27.271 --> 00:32:31.007
after the sun ranges at really is demand.
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(indistinct)
(alarm ringing)
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Pam Willette.
00:32:40.910 --> 00:32:41.760
You may go ahead.
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Hi.
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My name is Pam Willette.
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I live in Los Soso.
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The best thing I ever did was putting solar panels
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on our roof 10 years ago,
00:32:55.530 --> 00:32:57.710
that solar system was worth the cost to me
00:32:57.710 --> 00:33:01.350
because we all need to do our part to combat climate change.
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I'm a middle class, retired person living on a fixed income.
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Net metering allows people like me to afford solar.
00:33:08.180 --> 00:33:11.390
Cutting the solar credit 80% and adding a solar tax
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to my monthly bill will hit me hard
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and kill the state solar industry,
00:33:15.300 --> 00:33:18.460
hurting businesses and costing thousands of jobs.
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Solar rooftops like mine generate excess power
00:33:21.110 --> 00:33:22.480
that shared locally,
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and it actually saves millions of dollars
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in maintenance costs on the long distance power lines.
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Contrary to what they'd like you to believe.
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Rooftop solar preserves land resources
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by cutting the need for more solar farms.
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If California wants to meet its goal,
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of carbon reduction, electric cars by 2035 and preserve
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its natural resources in the state needs residential solar,
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the CPUC NEM three proposals will kill these goals
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and harm the environment.
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NEM 3.0 benefits utility companies not Californians.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Gavin Rodriguez.
00:33:59.430 --> 00:34:00.263
You may go ahead
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Again, Gavin Rodriguez.
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Your line is open.
00:34:12.683 --> 00:34:14.130
Please check your mute button.
00:34:18.690 --> 00:34:19.523
Mr. Rodriguez?
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Operator, let's go to the next caller.
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Our next caller is Becken Feehu,
00:34:29.740 --> 00:34:30.663
You may go ahead.
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Hello Commissioners.
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My name is Becken Feehu,
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and I'm a Davis president since 1986.
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I agree with all advice today and again,
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the solar tab CPUC need to encourage
00:34:45.340 --> 00:34:48.510
more rooftop solar, not to discourage it.
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I want to focus my one minute time
00:34:50.220 --> 00:34:52.420
on one aspect of the purpose change.
00:34:52.420 --> 00:34:54.580
Moving from yearly to monthly to this
00:34:55.510 --> 00:34:59.254
is not hashing as a sun cycle is yearly not monthly.
00:34:59.254 --> 00:35:02.350
We need to consider all 12 months combined when designing
00:35:02.350 --> 00:35:04.650
the most efficient of top solar system
00:35:04.650 --> 00:35:06.320
to a specific location.
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Doing otherwise will give efficiency and hence California
00:35:10.263 --> 00:35:13.078
clean energy goals combined with the purpose
00:35:13.078 --> 00:35:15.190
energy success generation credit.
00:35:15.190 --> 00:35:17.030
This will have a significant impact
00:35:17.030 --> 00:35:19.600
on rooftop solar return and investment.
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Rooftop solar has much lower on environmental impacts
00:35:22.347 --> 00:35:25.309
and large solar, also by shedding the dwelling
00:35:25.309 --> 00:35:28.868
under reduce the need for in the living space
00:35:28.868 --> 00:35:33.037
below this increased conservation and energy efficiency,
00:35:33.037 --> 00:35:36.810
it has not been properly accounted for in the analysis,
00:35:36.810 --> 00:35:38.476
push by the IOUs.
00:35:38.476 --> 00:35:39.502
(alarm ringing)
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Thank you for the opportunity to speak.
00:35:41.424 --> 00:35:42.257
Thank you,
00:35:42.257 --> 00:35:43.623
Operator, next caller please.
00:35:45.290 --> 00:35:47.000
Our next caller is Jessica Cravin.
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:47.853
You may go ahead.
00:35:48.890 --> 00:35:49.750
Oh my God.
00:35:49.750 --> 00:35:50.583
Wow.
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Hi, my name is Jessica Cravin.
00:35:52.170 --> 00:35:55.510
I'm a member of the California democratic parties,
00:35:55.510 --> 00:35:56.410
environmental caucus.
00:35:56.410 --> 00:35:57.670
I'm the you look, climate collective
00:35:57.670 --> 00:35:59.500
and a bunch of other groups.
00:35:59.500 --> 00:36:02.240
I've been waiting on hold for five hours to make comment.
00:36:02.240 --> 00:36:03.073
And you know what?
00:36:03.073 --> 00:36:06.610
I don't need to say what every other person except for one
00:36:06.610 --> 00:36:10.210
out of 400 has said so far, but I will say it again.
00:36:10.210 --> 00:36:12.990
I deeply oppose what you guys are trying to do.
00:36:12.990 --> 00:36:17.070
And I find it heartbreaking that 400 of us had to spend
00:36:17.070 --> 00:36:20.320
five hours of our day on a phone call to tell you
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:22.340
the incredibly obvious,
00:36:22.340 --> 00:36:25.040
which is that we are in a climate catastrophes.
00:36:25.040 --> 00:36:26.410
It's not even a crisis anymore.
00:36:26.410 --> 00:36:30.550
We are experiencing climate collapse and we are here
00:36:30.550 --> 00:36:31.870
on a beautiful sunny day,
00:36:31.870 --> 00:36:35.020
begging a Commission that is supposed to be protecting
00:36:35.020 --> 00:36:37.220
the public in California,
00:36:37.220 --> 00:36:40.080
to not give into the lobbyists who are obviously
00:36:40.080 --> 00:36:42.060
calling the shot in the situation.
00:36:42.060 --> 00:36:45.390
I am asking you to not tax rooftop solar.
00:36:45.390 --> 00:36:46.700
I am a rooftop solar owner,
00:36:46.700 --> 00:36:48.040
like everybody else on this call,
00:36:48.040 --> 00:36:50.140
I did it because it's the right thing to do.
00:36:50.140 --> 00:36:52.170
And also because I figured that eventually
00:36:52.170 --> 00:36:55.240
it would become, we would break even on it.
00:36:55.240 --> 00:36:56.110
(alarm ringing)
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It's heartbreaking.
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I'm done.
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Thank you.
Thank you very much.
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Operator next caller please.
00:37:04.516 --> 00:37:06.690
And we have John Presley back online.
00:37:06.690 --> 00:37:08.760
He was disconnected earlier, sir.
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:09.610
You may go ahead.
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Thank you just to finish my comment.
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The proposed decision would decimate our industry,
00:37:16.310 --> 00:37:18.670
prevent California from meeting its climate goals
00:37:18.670 --> 00:37:21.010
and mortgage our next generation's future
00:37:21.010 --> 00:37:24.080
in exchange for boosting utility profit margins.
00:37:24.080 --> 00:37:27.330
I urge you to reject this decision and rewrite
00:37:27.330 --> 00:37:30.900
a new solution that protects the rooftop solar industry
00:37:30.900 --> 00:37:32.430
and my family's future.
00:37:32.430 --> 00:37:33.900
Thank you.
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Thank you.
00:37:35.060 --> 00:37:36.510
Operator, next caller please.
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And our next caller is Dave Chukla.
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:44.330
You may go ahead.
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:54.560
Again, Mr. Shukla, your line is open.
00:37:54.560 --> 00:37:56.143
Please check your mute button.
00:38:00.470 --> 00:38:01.303
Hello?
00:38:01.303 --> 00:38:02.310
Can you hear me?
00:38:02.310 --> 00:38:03.750
Yes, we can.
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Oh, great.
00:38:04.630 --> 00:38:05.890
Hello, CPUC Commissioners.
00:38:05.890 --> 00:38:06.723
Thank you for your time.
00:38:06.723 --> 00:38:08.370
Dave Shukla resident and ratepayer
00:38:08.370 --> 00:38:11.760
on record for the past 24 years in Long Beach.
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:16.230
One of the funniest highlights of 2022 so far
00:38:16.230 --> 00:38:19.030
was Governor Gavin Newsom's budget proposal on the 10th.
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:23.860
It must be said that seeing the Governor flex on everyone
00:38:23.860 --> 00:38:26.963
and tell the world we want your dollars.
00:38:27.890 --> 00:38:30.080
We want you to open clean energy economy
00:38:30.080 --> 00:38:31.653
businesses in California.
00:38:32.996 --> 00:38:34.999
That was pretty cool.
00:38:34.999 --> 00:38:36.820
It's thing I wanna hear.
00:38:36.820 --> 00:38:41.127
I also wanna hear from you the CPUC about NEM four
00:38:41.127 --> 00:38:44.713
rules that work for all Californians.
00:38:45.620 --> 00:38:47.670
For the past 24 years, we've been living across
00:38:47.670 --> 00:38:49.060
the street from these people.
00:38:49.060 --> 00:38:51.940
Edison has knowingly profited off of climate change
00:38:51.940 --> 00:38:55.910
that they now want you the CPUC to discriminate
00:38:55.910 --> 00:38:59.010
against me and my family's ability to do something.
00:38:59.010 --> 00:39:02.900
Anything science based about don't want that noise.
00:39:02.900 --> 00:39:06.520
Don't want no tax, no retro aggressive tax.
00:39:06.520 --> 00:39:09.175
Why don't you put lean on Edison instead?
00:39:09.175 --> 00:39:10.008
(alarm ringing)
00:39:10.008 --> 00:39:11.080
Why don't we open their book?
00:39:12.030 --> 00:39:12.863
Thank you.
00:39:12.863 --> 00:39:13.696
Reject them three.
00:39:13.696 --> 00:39:14.529
Make it better.
00:39:14.529 --> 00:39:15.640
Thank you.
00:39:15.640 --> 00:39:16.473
Thank you.
00:39:16.473 --> 00:39:17.770
Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Dan Campbell.
00:39:21.490 --> 00:39:22.750
Don Campbell, I'm sorry.
00:39:22.750 --> 00:39:23.583
Go ahead.
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:26.793
Yeah.
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Hi and thank you for staying around for all of this.
00:39:29.180 --> 00:39:31.330
I appreciate all the people that have been on this call
00:39:31.330 --> 00:39:33.750
and I just want to echo everything and the brilliant
00:39:33.750 --> 00:39:36.800
stuff that have been said in opposition to this
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:41.230
it is regressive and it will do no good for Californians
00:39:41.230 --> 00:39:44.340
and please take care and everybody stay online
00:39:44.340 --> 00:39:45.940
and keep the comments coming.
00:39:45.940 --> 00:39:46.773
Thank you.
00:39:47.660 --> 00:39:48.493
Thank you.
00:39:48.493 --> 00:39:50.037
Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Prety Mather.
00:39:53.530 --> 00:39:54.380
You may go ahead.
00:39:55.620 --> 00:39:58.990
Hi, I'm a, my name is Prety Mather.
00:39:58.990 --> 00:40:01.400
I'm a passionate solar system homeowner
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:02.903
from Irvine, California.
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I'm a customer with SCE.
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My family house has a large solar system already.
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However, we are in the midst of installing and purchasing
00:40:12.240 --> 00:40:16.490
another large solar system with power wall batteries
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to be installed in a few weeks.
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My extended family members own five houses
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with solar system in Orange county.
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We have several electric vehicles in our family
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that we charge at our houses.
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Please encourage largest solar systems and batteries
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for all Californians.
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Please give incentives to California,
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to increase solar energy.
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Please vote for California in terms
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of solar energy environment,
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climate changes and green earth.
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Please encourage solar systems
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and batteries for Californian.
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Please vote for homeowner solar companies,
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solar employees in all Californians.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, operator.
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Next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Kristen Bement.
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You may go ahead.
00:41:04.370 --> 00:41:05.203
Hi there.
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Good afternoon.
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My name's Kristen Bement calling in from LA county
00:41:07.530 --> 00:41:09.400
on behalf of Zero solar, where I work
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:11.150
and on behalf of my partner and our children
00:41:11.150 --> 00:41:12.780
who hope to continue living and thriving
00:41:12.780 --> 00:41:13.960
in this great state.
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I've worked in the California solar industry
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:17.110
for over 15 years.
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I wanna echo everything on this call as well.
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Amazing, all the comments here.
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I just wanna say California's rooftop,
00:41:23.710 --> 00:41:26.060
solar succeeds due to a huge diverse community
00:41:26.060 --> 00:41:28.230
throughout California, coming together in many ways
00:41:28.230 --> 00:41:31.210
to invest in solar power with their money,
00:41:31.210 --> 00:41:32.500
with their hard work.
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Why?
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Because the right thing to do for a planet
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and because it makes reasonable financial sense.
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I urge you to unanimously reject this terribly
00:41:40.120 --> 00:41:41.310
foreign proposal.
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It is designed to decimate the ability for a consumer
00:41:44.590 --> 00:41:46.950
to invest in benefit from rooftop solar in California
00:41:46.950 --> 00:41:50.180
and beyond and it passed it on questionably well,
00:41:50.180 --> 00:41:52.730
it is not designed to capitalize on the oppotunity
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we have to move clean energy from our abundant
00:41:55.430 --> 00:41:57.260
sunshine hours to the evening hours
00:41:57.260 --> 00:41:59.570
where greenhouse gas emissions are largest.
00:41:59.570 --> 00:42:02.570
We as a state should be focused on making more clean energy
00:42:02.570 --> 00:42:03.730
and moving into the evening.
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We should not be putting up financial barriers
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to clean energy.
(alarm ringing)
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:08.199
We should continue to leave this fire.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, operator.
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Operator, next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Seth Debbie.
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You may go ahead.
00:42:26.150 --> 00:42:27.900
Again, Seth Debbie, your line is open.
00:42:27.900 --> 00:42:29.400
Please check your mute button.
00:42:30.470 --> 00:42:31.640
Yeah, this is Seth Debbie
00:42:31.640 --> 00:42:33.430
with green day power.
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I employ 150 people in Sacramento,
00:42:37.420 --> 00:42:39.810
Fresno in Southern California,
00:42:39.810 --> 00:42:43.247
and we strongly oppose the new from NEM 3.0,
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I think the public has spoken.
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I've been on this call for five hours
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and it's pretty unanimous that people
00:42:50.200 --> 00:42:52.180
are not in support of this.
00:42:52.180 --> 00:42:53.080
And we are the public.
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We hope you listen to the public and this would decimate
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the jobs of my people and our employees.
00:43:00.590 --> 00:43:01.857
And it would decimate the customers,
00:43:01.857 --> 00:43:04.030
the thousands of customer as we set up
00:43:04.030 --> 00:43:06.340
over the last six years in business.
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And we hope that you'll reconsider and make proper
00:43:09.330 --> 00:43:11.730
adjustments to make this more equitable for everybody.
00:43:11.730 --> 00:43:13.035
Thanks.
00:43:13.035 --> 00:43:14.200
Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Ted Dunning.
00:43:19.980 --> 00:43:21.660
You may go ahead.
00:43:21.660 --> 00:43:23.350
Hi. My name is Ted Dunning
00:43:23.350 --> 00:43:25.680
and I'm a Professor, political science
00:43:25.680 --> 00:43:28.530
at UC Berkeley and the California native.
00:43:28.530 --> 00:43:30.680
I'm calling to register my extremely strong
00:43:30.680 --> 00:43:32.550
opposition to the proposed regulation,
00:43:32.550 --> 00:43:34.980
governing rooftop solar in California.
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My wife and I have installed a solar panel system
00:43:38.010 --> 00:43:39.920
and battery back capacity at our home.
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:41.770
And we drive electric vehicles.
00:43:41.770 --> 00:43:43.720
We have been so proud of California's national
00:43:43.720 --> 00:43:46.040
and global leadership on the environment.
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So, I'm absolutely horrified and ashamed
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to see the CPUC proposal,
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which takes a gigantic step in the wrong direction
00:43:52.630 --> 00:43:54.140
for climate change.
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I'm asking you CPUC Commissioners and Governor Newsom
00:43:57.090 --> 00:43:58.400
to fix this proposal.
00:43:58.400 --> 00:43:59.980
There should be no solar tax,
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not even a cent.
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In political science we call regulators
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who pass a proposal written at the heist
00:44:05.500 --> 00:44:09.050
of the very utilities they regulate captured regulators,
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CPUC Commissioners, please don't let yourself be captured
00:44:12.020 --> 00:44:14.290
by PG&E and the other utilities.
00:44:14.290 --> 00:44:16.120
Do the right thing for Californians
00:44:16.120 --> 00:44:18.610
for the environment and for our world's future.
00:44:18.610 --> 00:44:19.443
Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Carol Hart.
00:44:27.340 --> 00:44:28.190
You may go ahead.
00:44:30.380 --> 00:44:31.213
Hi.
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My name is Carol Hart and I'm a registered voter in Ventura.
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I have been a customer of three California utility companies
00:44:38.580 --> 00:44:40.940
and a shareholder of one of them.
00:44:40.940 --> 00:44:44.210
I purchased a grid tide solar system for my home
00:44:44.210 --> 00:44:47.380
in Mariosa county in 2012.
00:44:47.380 --> 00:44:50.360
I, along with my neighbors who leased their solar panels,
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:52.680
did our part to ease the grids energy burden,
00:44:52.680 --> 00:44:55.770
but would not have justified this expense without tax
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incentives and the low monthly minimum charge
00:44:59.050 --> 00:45:02.130
by my utility company at $10 per month.
00:45:02.130 --> 00:45:03.670
Now that I have moved to Ventura,
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I would like to invest in solar power and battery storage,
00:45:07.270 --> 00:45:09.420
but your potential actions are making me
00:45:09.420 --> 00:45:11.690
and countless others reconsider.
00:45:11.690 --> 00:45:13.740
I cannot justify the personal cost
00:45:13.740 --> 00:45:16.000
of another solar panel installation.
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:19.160
If you act in favor of utility company budgets
00:45:19.160 --> 00:45:22.320
over my rights as a California taxpayer,
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:25.320
please help us help you do the right thing
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:28.380
for our environment and for clean energy jobs
00:45:28.380 --> 00:45:32.140
by fixing or eliminating your solar tax proposal.
00:45:32.140 --> 00:45:33.233
Thank you very much.
00:45:34.370 --> 00:45:35.203
Thank you.
00:45:35.203 --> 00:45:36.920
Operator, next caller, please.
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Our next caller is David Born.
00:45:40.010 --> 00:45:40.860
You may go ahead.
00:45:42.260 --> 00:45:43.660
Hi. My name is David Born
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from San Francisco, California,
00:45:45.370 --> 00:45:47.870
and I do not work in the solar industry
00:45:47.870 --> 00:45:51.230
but I do work in sustainability strategy at Google
00:45:51.230 --> 00:45:53.500
and like so many other people on this call.
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I strongly reject the NEM 3.0 proposal.
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:00.610
I think it is crazy, but instead of repeating
00:46:00.610 --> 00:46:01.560
what everyone else has said,
00:46:01.560 --> 00:46:03.940
I did wanna address the two out of hundreds
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of people that I heard commenting for
00:46:05.620 --> 00:46:07.810
in favor of NEM 3.0 on this call.
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And then one was talking about a social equity issue.
00:46:11.130 --> 00:46:14.557
And I think, beyond the bait and switch for a existing.
00:46:14.557 --> 00:46:16.929
So owners like myself, the fact that you were,
00:46:16.929 --> 00:46:20.130
discouraging new homeowners from getting solar
00:46:20.130 --> 00:46:21.880
many of whom will be lower income families
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:24.910
that we need to join the fight on climate change
00:46:24.910 --> 00:46:27.160
is really antithetical to what California
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needs to be doing to address these climate goals.
00:46:30.230 --> 00:46:33.290
And of course the second, comment
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was about the solar energy spike during the day.
00:46:36.490 --> 00:46:39.300
And to that effect, we need to really be incentivizing
00:46:39.300 --> 00:46:42.340
badly storage in addition to rooftop solar.
00:46:42.340 --> 00:46:44.010
So that once everyone has it,
00:46:44.010 --> 00:46:46.670
we can of course have renewable energy at night as well.
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So, strongly recommend the CPUC reject this proposal.
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.101
And in fact, if you're gonna do anything--
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(alarm ringing)(indistinct)
Thank you.
00:46:54.540 --> 00:46:57.513
Thank you, operator next caller please.
00:46:59.741 --> 00:47:01.930
Our next caller is Cheryl Reynolds.
00:47:01.930 --> 00:47:02.870
You may go ahead
00:47:11.160 --> 00:47:13.450
Again Cheryl Reynoldsm your line is open.
00:47:13.450 --> 00:47:14.950
Please check your mute button.
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:17.460
Can you hear me now?
00:47:17.460 --> 00:47:18.293
Yeah.
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Yes, we can please proceed.
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Thank you.
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Okay.
00:47:20.856 --> 00:47:21.790
Thank you.
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Sherry Reynolds, out of Oceanside, California,
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I have a lot of reasons to be discouraged by the tax.
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I recently became a solar consultant sold my first job
00:47:35.290 --> 00:47:37.800
and I love this industry.
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:40.780
I have five grandchildren who three of which
00:47:40.780 --> 00:47:45.250
are in California, and my concern is about their wellbeing.
00:47:45.250 --> 00:47:48.670
If we are not able to clean up our environment,
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I hope you do vote against NEM three.
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And I appreciate the time.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Marisa Woodard.
00:48:01.890 --> 00:48:02.740
You may go ahead.
00:48:05.460 --> 00:48:07.210
Hi. My name is Marisa Woodard.
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I work at Hot Purple Energy in the Coachella valley.
00:48:10.010 --> 00:48:13.160
I've been in the solar industry for about four years.
00:48:13.160 --> 00:48:15.780
I love my career because solar and energy storage evolves
00:48:15.780 --> 00:48:18.050
with our lifestyle and demand for energy
00:48:18.050 --> 00:48:19.680
is always on the cutting edge of technology
00:48:19.680 --> 00:48:22.280
and the best part, it's renewable sustainable energy.
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That's good for our planet.
00:48:24.230 --> 00:48:27.280
Tens of thousands of Californians, including myself,
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:30.010
depend on our jobs for the livelihoods of our families.
00:48:30.010 --> 00:48:31.900
NEM three would kill the solar industry,
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leading many of us jobless and without the means
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to support our families.
00:48:35.430 --> 00:48:37.320
It is also out of line with California's
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.770
clean energy initiatives and it will lead
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to a decline in people going solar
00:48:41.530 --> 00:48:44.050
and as seen as a penalty to those who have already
00:48:44.050 --> 00:48:48.280
gone solar, please reject the NEM three proposal.
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Thank you for your time and the opportunity to contribute.
00:48:51.930 --> 00:48:53.131
Thank you, operator.
00:48:53.131 --> 00:48:54.798
Next caller, please.
00:48:56.097 --> 00:48:58.020
Our next caller is James Miller.
00:48:58.020 --> 00:48:58.870
You may go ahead.
00:49:00.810 --> 00:49:01.867
Hello.
00:49:01.867 --> 00:49:04.253
Thank you for taking my call.
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Commissioners, I live in Sherman Oaks
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and I work in the television industry
00:49:11.030 --> 00:49:15.550
and I strongly oppose this job killing utility
00:49:15.550 --> 00:49:17.870
enriching solar tax 3.0,
00:49:17.870 --> 00:49:21.970
which violates every tenant of the regulatory fairness.
00:49:21.970 --> 00:49:25.510
And it's likely illegal under federal law.
00:49:25.510 --> 00:49:29.170
I installed pollution free stable 21 solar panels
00:49:29.170 --> 00:49:31.873
on my Sherman Oaks house and drive an EV.
00:49:33.070 --> 00:49:36.100
Whatever excess energy I use, I sell back to the grid
00:49:36.100 --> 00:49:39.410
which helps stabilizes the grid while I produce
00:49:39.410 --> 00:49:42.080
clean, renewable energy to others.
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The state of California is known as the leader
00:49:44.230 --> 00:49:46.950
and trend centered, sustainable, renewable energy,
00:49:46.950 --> 00:49:51.020
and provides the path for other states to follow
00:49:51.020 --> 00:49:55.230
the CPUC proposal advocated by the utility, monopolies
00:49:55.230 --> 00:49:58.530
and fossil fuel industries is nothing but a big business
00:49:58.530 --> 00:50:02.160
profiteering Wolf and Reynolds clothing scheme,
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and must be rejected.
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(alarm ringing) This is a time to--
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Thank you very much Operator next caller please.
00:50:12.972 --> 00:50:14.890
Our next caller is Mike Roe.
00:50:14.890 --> 00:50:15.740
You may go ahead.
00:50:17.630 --> 00:50:19.300
Hi, I've listened to everybody on here
00:50:19.300 --> 00:50:20.930
and I have the same concerns.
00:50:20.930 --> 00:50:23.260
I say, let's take this fight to Twitter
00:50:23.260 --> 00:50:28.260
and get everybody to retweet a tweet I put together.
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My identity is @MikeRoe912.
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I'm like the dirty jobs guy,
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except without the w @MikeROE912.
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I've got the Commissioners copied on there
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:46.520
as well as Gavin Newso and other influential folks
00:50:46.520 --> 00:50:49.960
do the same, retweet my tweet and add yours
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:54.053
and hashtag no solar tax hashtag CPUC.
00:50:55.070 --> 00:50:57.020
And let's get this trending on Twitter.
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Thank you, operator.
00:51:00.340 --> 00:51:01.403
Next caller, please.
00:51:03.450 --> 00:51:05.110
Our next caller is Megan Chumley.
00:51:05.110 --> 00:51:06.103
You may go ahead.
00:51:10.358 --> 00:51:11.191
Yes.
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This is Megan Chumley.
00:51:12.970 --> 00:51:15.450
I'm a retired public health nurse
00:51:15.450 --> 00:51:18.060
from the Arden-Arcade area of Sacramento.
00:51:18.060 --> 00:51:20.343
I'm also a member of climate health now.
00:51:22.100 --> 00:51:25.810
Commissioners, if you are making the wrong decision
00:51:25.810 --> 00:51:28.910
to side with the corporate greed and their distortions
00:51:28.910 --> 00:51:32.210
of the facts and impose an owner's tax
00:51:32.210 --> 00:51:35.590
on rooftop solar owners, as well as unfair compensation
00:51:35.590 --> 00:51:38.280
for the electricity they provide to the grid,
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:41.190
you will be setting back decarbonization of our society
00:51:41.190 --> 00:51:45.320
at a time when we have maybe less than eight years
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:48.020
before runaway global warming will cause us
00:51:48.020 --> 00:51:50.140
all irreparable harm.
00:51:50.140 --> 00:51:53.360
Communities of color and the poor will fill the harm first,
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:54.820
but make no mistake.
00:51:54.820 --> 00:51:57.970
All of us, including you and your defendants
00:51:57.970 --> 00:51:59.810
may face extinction.
00:51:59.810 --> 00:52:03.070
We can't meet our clean power goals without encouraging
00:52:03.070 --> 00:52:05.510
fair and equitable rooftop solar.
00:52:05.510 --> 00:52:08.390
I beseech the Commission to make a wise decision
00:52:08.390 --> 00:52:11.000
about increasing the need for clean power
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:12.780
for the 21st century.
00:52:12.780 --> 00:52:13.613
Thank you.
00:52:14.690 --> 00:52:15.923
Thank you, operator.
00:52:15.923 --> 00:52:17.073
Next caller, please.
00:52:20.660 --> 00:52:22.950
Our next caller is Steven CDO.
00:52:22.950 --> 00:52:23.800
You may go ahead.
00:52:25.576 --> 00:52:26.750
Steve CDO retired.
00:52:26.750 --> 00:52:29.290
I do not agree with this change in policy.
00:52:29.290 --> 00:52:31.523
In San Diego, gas and electric electricity,
00:52:32.980 --> 00:52:36.920
our gasoline electricity among our largest monthly expenses.
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:40.673
Those of us on fixed income invested in solar in EVs
00:52:40.673 --> 00:52:42.680
unaware 20 years of net metering
00:52:42.680 --> 00:52:44.433
was a whim of the utilities.
00:52:45.410 --> 00:52:49.360
This goes beyond solar will cause people to pause
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:51.090
before installing batteries for fewer
00:52:51.090 --> 00:52:55.440
punitive CPUC changes applies the same to electric cars.
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:57.950
When the rate goes over a 25c/kwh
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:02.320
without rooftop solar, gasoline is cheaper.
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:05.640
It's clear the utilities wanna make solar go away.
00:53:05.640 --> 00:53:08.310
The proposed changes increases my monthly charge
00:53:08.310 --> 00:53:11.700
for electricity by several 100% disincentivizes,
00:53:11.700 --> 00:53:13.200
new solar instalations,
00:53:13.200 --> 00:53:17.040
therefore killing the rule rooftop solar industries,
00:53:17.040 --> 00:53:20.910
reestablishing the utility monopoly with NEM three,
00:53:20.910 --> 00:53:23.060
the utilities win the consumer
00:53:23.060 --> 00:53:25.780
and the solar industries lose.
00:53:25.780 --> 00:53:28.310
47 states have lower electric rates
00:53:28.310 --> 00:53:30.500
is the public utilities Commission
00:53:30.500 --> 00:53:32.783
or just (alarm ringing) utilities Commission.
00:53:32.783 --> 00:53:33.616
Thank you for your time.
00:53:33.616 --> 00:53:35.370
Thank you very much, operator.
00:53:35.370 --> 00:53:36.453
Next caller, please.
00:53:40.820 --> 00:53:43.570
Our next caller is Arthur pinnet.
00:53:43.570 --> 00:53:44.420
You may go ahead.
00:53:46.820 --> 00:53:47.910
Hello.
00:53:47.910 --> 00:53:50.470
We're lifelong residents in the city of Lakewood
00:53:50.470 --> 00:53:54.150
with rooftop solar on a retired crane operator,
00:53:54.150 --> 00:53:56.400
not rich by any stretch.
00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:58.593
We're middle class family in a humble home.
00:53:59.680 --> 00:54:00.650
We wanted to trade, try to save money
00:54:00.650 --> 00:54:03.100
on electricity and stop climate change.
00:54:03.100 --> 00:54:06.340
Five years ago, we replaced our roof and added solar.
00:54:06.340 --> 00:54:07.580
It was expensive for us.
00:54:07.580 --> 00:54:08.910
We couldn't afford it.
00:54:08.910 --> 00:54:11.120
If not for the incentive rebate.
00:54:11.120 --> 00:54:13.530
The savings from our solar eventually helped pay
00:54:13.530 --> 00:54:15.840
for a used plugin hybrid.
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:18.380
If this rule gets voted in with the monthly threes,
00:54:18.380 --> 00:54:22.393
plus the 80% cut on our excess energy onto the grid,
00:54:23.420 --> 00:54:26.650
mine would be economic solution will consider
00:54:26.650 --> 00:54:28.480
going off the grid.
00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:31.020
Edison meter could be disconnected.
00:54:31.020 --> 00:54:34.360
This won't be my preference, but for this ruling passing
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:37.400
if this proposals pass I'll certainly scare off,
00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:40.260
it will certainly scare off future solar customers
00:54:40.260 --> 00:54:42.040
and lose solar jobs.
00:54:42.040 --> 00:54:45.060
Governor Newsom, Commissioners don't force us
00:54:45.060 --> 00:54:48.030
to make tough decisions to leave the grid.
00:54:48.030 --> 00:54:48.863
Thank you.
00:54:49.790 --> 00:54:50.623
Thank you.
00:54:50.623 --> 00:54:52.073
Operator, next caller, please.
00:54:53.829 --> 00:54:55.970
Our next caller is Ryan McGuire.
00:54:55.970 --> 00:54:56.823
You may go ahead.
00:54:59.282 --> 00:55:00.723
Hi.
00:55:00.723 --> 00:55:03.983
Yeah, Ryan McGuire here of Claremont in El county.
00:55:03.983 --> 00:55:07.950
I have solar on my roof and also a solar installer
00:55:07.950 --> 00:55:08.920
for source solar.
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:12.233
And I'm just, I'm grateful for everybody on this call.
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:18.973
It's been, well over 240 minutes.
00:55:20.970 --> 00:55:25.490
who like those that over 240 years ago stood up
00:55:25.490 --> 00:55:28.930
against unfair taxes and rules that preceded
00:55:28.930 --> 00:55:30.333
the birth of this country.
00:55:31.979 --> 00:55:35.370
I just appreciate those that are doing the same thing today.
00:55:35.370 --> 00:55:38.630
Standing up against unfair tax and rules
00:55:38.630 --> 00:55:41.963
that seek to kill California solar.
00:55:43.340 --> 00:55:45.850
So, I trust we'll have the same outcome
00:55:45.850 --> 00:55:50.850
and this great solar industry in the state
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:55.820
will live on and prosper.
00:55:55.820 --> 00:55:59.201
And I like the guy's suggestion that we double
00:55:59.201 --> 00:56:01.703
the incentive for solar.
00:56:02.670 --> 00:56:03.503
Anyway, that's my vote.
00:56:03.503 --> 00:56:06.900
Definitely, please reject NEM 3.0,
00:56:06.900 --> 00:56:09.583
thanks for supporting and standing on.
00:56:11.460 --> 00:56:12.293
Thank you.
00:56:13.504 --> 00:56:14.337
Operator, next caller please.
00:56:16.230 --> 00:56:18.110
Our next caller is Jeanette king.
00:56:18.110 --> 00:56:19.003
You may go ahead.
00:56:22.690 --> 00:56:23.523
Good afternoon.
00:56:23.523 --> 00:56:26.500
This is Jeanette king live in Livermore
00:56:26.500 --> 00:56:29.170
in the San Francisco bay area.
00:56:29.170 --> 00:56:34.170
I do not (indistinct) on rooftop solar.
00:56:34.560 --> 00:56:37.910
I am a retired teacher and have rooftop solar
00:56:37.910 --> 00:56:41.280
on my home since 2006,
00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:45.450
which has produced all the electrical power that I use.
00:56:45.450 --> 00:56:48.000
I have recently installed a heat pump
00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:50.540
to replace my gas furnace.
00:56:50.540 --> 00:56:54.450
Rooftop solar is important for citizens like me.
00:56:54.450 --> 00:56:58.880
Net metering is financially sound for ordinary citizens.
00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:01.610
The state should honor the promise to people
00:57:01.610 --> 00:57:03.670
who have rooftop solar.
00:57:03.670 --> 00:57:07.440
Rooftop distributed solar is important for combating
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:11.400
climate change without compromising open space
00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:16.300
in agricultural lands or desert areas with industrial solar.
00:57:16.300 --> 00:57:18.673
Thank you very much for taking my comment.
00:57:19.830 --> 00:57:21.120
Thank you, operator.
00:57:21.120 --> 00:57:22.263
Next caller, please.
00:57:24.040 --> 00:57:26.030
Our next caller is John Taylor.
00:57:26.030 --> 00:57:26.880
You may go ahead.
00:57:28.300 --> 00:57:29.470
Thank you.
00:57:29.470 --> 00:57:33.720
I have absolutely no ties to rooftop solar industry,
00:57:33.720 --> 00:57:36.543
but the biggest cost is not them.
00:57:36.543 --> 00:57:38.920
It's the billions a month in transmission
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:40.290
and distribution charges.
00:57:40.290 --> 00:57:44.010
The utilities reging in and that price is going up,
00:57:44.010 --> 00:57:48.200
but like cell phones, solar TV is a disruptive technology.
00:57:48.200 --> 00:57:49.550
It can go anywhere.
00:57:49.550 --> 00:57:52.910
It does not need to be tethered to wires.
00:57:52.910 --> 00:57:54.890
If CPUC kills rooftop solar,
00:57:54.890 --> 00:57:59.020
that will cause more unnecessary transmission over build
00:57:59.020 --> 00:58:00.830
to deliver remote energy,
00:58:00.830 --> 00:58:03.070
the can and should be or generated at load
00:58:04.230 --> 00:58:06.650
that will compound the already outrageous charges.
00:58:06.650 --> 00:58:10.440
Customer will be stuck with on, in an item.
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:12.270
And we'll all miss the benefits you've heard
00:58:12.270 --> 00:58:13.603
about local generation.
00:58:14.550 --> 00:58:18.360
The POC is legally morally obligated to ensure
00:58:18.360 --> 00:58:20.540
the growth of distributed solar.
00:58:20.540 --> 00:58:22.417
So instead of gutting any NEM,
00:58:23.330 --> 00:58:26.270
maybe it's time to revamp the revenue allocation
00:58:26.270 --> 00:58:28.660
for these hugely lucrative of utilities.
00:58:28.660 --> 00:58:29.493
Thank you.
00:58:30.380 --> 00:58:31.320
Thank you.
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:32.953
Operator, next caller, please.
00:58:35.770 --> 00:58:37.510
Our next caller is from Ray Vargas.
00:58:37.510 --> 00:58:38.360
You may go ahead.
00:58:48.150 --> 00:58:48.983
Sorry.
00:58:48.983 --> 00:58:49.931
I was on mute.
00:58:49.931 --> 00:58:50.764
Good afternoon.
00:58:50.764 --> 00:58:55.350
As a C two EJC4W member, I say stop NEM three.
00:58:56.230 --> 00:58:58.190
Today's meeting was opened with an acknowledgement
00:58:58.190 --> 00:58:59.150
to black history months.
00:58:59.150 --> 00:59:02.130
While any support of NEM three is continued oppression
00:59:02.130 --> 00:59:04.460
by a systematically racist agenda
00:59:04.460 --> 00:59:06.530
by ways of policies like NEM three,
00:59:06.530 --> 00:59:09.410
which target the middle class and disadvantaged communities.
00:59:09.410 --> 00:59:11.410
I would like to echo all of the previous speakers today
00:59:11.410 --> 00:59:13.700
and their persuasive talking points as a layman.
00:59:13.700 --> 00:59:16.033
It is not hard to glean the NEM three benefits,
00:59:16.033 --> 00:59:18.160
PG&E and perpetuates support
00:59:18.160 --> 00:59:20.020
of monopolies and conglomerates.
00:59:20.020 --> 00:59:22.810
My indigenous ancestors are the stewards of the stolen land
00:59:22.810 --> 00:59:25.500
and is evident how the current system has managed our planet
00:59:25.500 --> 00:59:27.230
with greed based motivations.
00:59:27.230 --> 00:59:29.390
It's time to choose mother nature instead of pimping her out
00:59:29.390 --> 00:59:32.670
for a profit over our climate depends on it.
00:59:32.670 --> 00:59:34.860
Please embody the year the tiger reference this morning
00:59:34.860 --> 00:59:37.040
and choose courage to take steps towards dismantling
00:59:37.040 --> 00:59:38.970
the patriarchy and the corporate agenda.
00:59:38.970 --> 00:59:40.550
Thank you.
00:59:40.550 --> 00:59:41.760
Thank you.
00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:43.283
Operator next caller, please.
00:59:45.140 --> 00:59:46.790
Our next caller has Benard Summers.
00:59:46.790 --> 00:59:47.640
You may go ahead.
00:59:50.980 --> 00:59:51.813
Good afternoon,
00:59:51.813 --> 00:59:52.890
president Reynold, Commissioners.
00:59:52.890 --> 00:59:55.260
Thank you for your service and stewardship
00:59:55.260 --> 00:59:56.290
and thank you to my fellow,
00:59:56.290 --> 00:59:58.640
solar brothers and sisters on this call.
00:59:58.640 --> 01:00:00.101
My name is Benard Summers
01:00:00.101 --> 01:00:02.400
and I've been a leader in the solar industry for 17 years.
01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:04.490
I've helped create that thousands of jobs
01:00:04.490 --> 01:00:08.900
and thousands of homeowners I've helped by going solar.
01:00:08.900 --> 01:00:10.740
By the way, four kids, three grandkids,
01:00:10.740 --> 01:00:12.600
third generation army.
01:00:12.600 --> 01:00:14.880
I'm currently a CEO of Redemption Energy at blue based
01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:17.487
in San Diego, but we operate all over the US.
01:00:17.487 --> 01:00:20.090
Our current team focuses on well,
01:00:20.090 --> 01:00:22.420
Latino and Asian American communities.
01:00:22.420 --> 01:00:24.700
These are mostly disadvantaged families,
01:00:24.700 --> 01:00:27.340
many military and veterans like me,
01:00:27.340 --> 01:00:29.320
first responders and retirees.
01:00:29.320 --> 01:00:31.800
Many of these workers and the homeowners have ascended
01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:34.570
from the disadvantaged class to the middle class
01:00:34.570 --> 01:00:37.520
because of solar to propose NEM 3.0
01:00:37.520 --> 01:00:39.450
order will put these middle class families
01:00:39.450 --> 01:00:41.920
back into the disadvantaged class.
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:43.417
It will reverse the progress that we
01:00:43.417 --> 01:00:46.480
have been together in the past decade.
01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:49.270
Let's not let that go backwards now,
01:00:49.270 --> 01:00:52.070
if this order passes after more than 20 years
01:00:52.070 --> 01:00:54.870
of California residency, I will be relocating.
01:00:54.870 --> 01:00:56.780
There'll be next to this of California's talent
01:00:56.780 --> 01:00:58.670
to other parts of this great country
01:00:58.670 --> 01:01:00.730
to more so friendly states.
01:01:00.730 --> 01:01:04.090
I'll have to inform my team members to(indistinct) with me.
01:01:04.090 --> 01:01:04.923
Thank you.
01:01:04.923 --> 01:01:06.346
You looked up.
01:01:06.346 --> 01:01:07.546
Push pause Been revised.
01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:09.313
Thank you.
01:01:09.313 --> 01:01:10.393
Operator, next caller, please.
01:01:12.040 --> 01:01:13.840
Our next caller is Philip Yamo.
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:14.690
You may go ahead.
01:01:23.750 --> 01:01:24.583
Hello.
01:01:24.583 --> 01:01:25.416
My name is Philip Yamo.
01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:29.460
I'm directing producer of Collaborate Productions
01:01:29.460 --> 01:01:30.520
in Stockton, California.
01:01:30.520 --> 01:01:31.943
Member of the CEEE,
01:01:33.310 --> 01:01:37.270
I fail to agree with the decision made by the CPUC NEM 3.0,
01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:44.120
I believe this is detrimental to the low income communities
01:01:44.120 --> 01:01:46.000
abroad the state of California.
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:48.300
I find it difficult to have confidence
01:01:48.300 --> 01:01:49.690
in the cost shipped.
01:01:51.100 --> 01:01:53.070
Our infrastructure system and grid
01:01:53.070 --> 01:01:55.640
is at a critical stage I believe.
01:01:55.640 --> 01:01:57.580
Green energy and the economy is the beginning
01:01:57.580 --> 01:02:00.150
of environmental justice in our communities.
01:02:00.150 --> 01:02:03.140
Solar and energy storage should be our goal to begin
01:02:03.140 --> 01:02:07.070
the process and completely deCommissioned peaker plants,
01:02:07.070 --> 01:02:09.540
Why pay higher taxes for the hardworking Californians
01:02:09.540 --> 01:02:11.490
wanting to go green in the future.
01:02:11.490 --> 01:02:13.795
Everyone should have the opportunity to help clean up
01:02:13.795 --> 01:02:15.220
their polluted neighborhoods.
01:02:15.220 --> 01:02:17.390
Keep the public mind of the positive change
01:02:17.390 --> 01:02:19.590
in the solar is not the agenda.
01:02:19.590 --> 01:02:22.960
We need to support stopping equity in California.
01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:24.360
And thank you for your time.
01:02:25.540 --> 01:02:26.373
Thank you.
01:02:26.373 --> 01:02:28.013
Operator, next caller please.
01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:32.803
Our next caller is Carlos Bacar. You may go ahead.
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:36.590
Hi, can you hear me?
01:02:36.590 --> 01:02:37.433
Yes, we can.
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:39.153
Excellent.
01:02:39.153 --> 01:02:40.230
Carlos Bacar, Fresno
01:02:40.230 --> 01:02:42.020
work in marketing at energy concepts,
01:02:42.020 --> 01:02:43.570
a solar company here in Fresno.
01:02:43.570 --> 01:02:45.610
I am brand new to solar, probably the newest.
01:02:45.610 --> 01:02:48.180
I joined the industry just over a year ago,
01:02:48.180 --> 01:02:50.830
but I was a solar consumer many years before that.
01:02:50.830 --> 01:02:53.010
I am super excited about this industry.
01:02:53.010 --> 01:02:54.780
It really didn't exist in this current
01:02:54.780 --> 01:02:56.253
form just 30 years ago.
01:02:57.190 --> 01:02:59.010
I would like to urge the Commission to throw out
01:02:59.010 --> 01:03:01.260
the proposed NEM three decision and release
01:03:01.260 --> 01:03:03.096
an alternate proposal.
01:03:03.096 --> 01:03:05.510
With NEM three, I did what I've done many times
01:03:05.510 --> 01:03:07.280
in the past with difficult topics.
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:08.670
I showed it to my wife.
01:03:08.670 --> 01:03:11.660
She manages our finances anyways and thank God for that.
01:03:11.660 --> 01:03:13.840
And I asked her, would you have installed solar
01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:15.820
if these were the rules?
01:03:15.820 --> 01:03:17.970
I'm going to paraphrase her because I can't use
01:03:17.970 --> 01:03:19.410
her language, but she said,
01:03:19.410 --> 01:03:23.050
heck no, she thought it's actually happening.
01:03:23.050 --> 01:03:24.120
And I told her not yet.
01:03:24.120 --> 01:03:25.520
It's up to the utilities Commission.
01:03:25.520 --> 01:03:27.330
She got mad at me.
01:03:27.330 --> 01:03:30.530
I'm afraid too many average consumers will come to the same
01:03:30.530 --> 01:03:32.990
conclusion and kill our industry as we know it,
01:03:32.990 --> 01:03:34.910
I urge the Commission to please
01:03:34.910 --> 01:03:36.710
throw out the proposed decision.
01:03:36.710 --> 01:03:40.490
Please help me save my marriage, my job,
01:03:40.490 --> 01:03:43.210
and please save the solar industry as we know it today.
01:03:43.210 --> 01:03:46.270
Thank you, thank you very much for your time today.
01:03:46.270 --> 01:03:47.200
Thank you.
01:03:47.200 --> 01:03:48.893
Operator, next caller please.
01:03:50.780 --> 01:03:53.090
Our next caller is from Susan Aposky.
01:03:53.090 --> 01:03:53.983
You may go ahead.
01:03:55.120 --> 01:03:56.012
Hi.
01:03:56.012 --> 01:03:56.845
Thank you for taking my call.
01:03:56.845 --> 01:04:00.140
I'm a registered voter and tax payer and solar panel owner
01:04:00.140 --> 01:04:04.390
in Berkeley urging you to reject NEM 3.0,
01:04:04.390 --> 01:04:06.740
it takes us backwards instead of forwards,
01:04:06.740 --> 01:04:08.890
please say no to the solar tax.
01:04:08.890 --> 01:04:12.470
Make solar more affordable, not less for all of us.
01:04:12.470 --> 01:04:14.700
Please honor the existing 20 year protection
01:04:14.700 --> 01:04:16.170
for solar users.
01:04:16.170 --> 01:04:19.050
NEM 3.0 is nothing but a giveaway to the big utilities
01:04:19.050 --> 01:04:21.080
who's been frowned, criminally negligent
01:04:21.080 --> 01:04:24.340
and responsible for hundreds of wildfires.
01:04:24.340 --> 01:04:27.530
Please do not pub punish hardworking Californians
01:04:27.530 --> 01:04:29.600
for putting solar on their roofs.
01:04:29.600 --> 01:04:32.010
We're trying to prevent climate change,
01:04:32.010 --> 01:04:33.840
wildfires and blackouts.
01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:37.930
Not add to the problem as the utilities have been doing.
01:04:37.930 --> 01:04:41.100
Please put the public back in the California public
01:04:41.100 --> 01:04:43.870
utilities Commission and do the right thing.
01:04:43.870 --> 01:04:44.853
Thank you so much.
01:04:45.770 --> 01:04:48.520
Thank you, operator, next caller, please.
01:04:50.227 --> 01:04:52.560
Our next caller is Theresa Wynn.
01:04:52.560 --> 01:04:53.410
You may go ahead.
01:05:00.650 --> 01:05:02.530
Good afternoon Commissioner.
01:05:02.530 --> 01:05:05.300
My name is Theresa Wynn in San Jose.
01:05:05.300 --> 01:05:06.470
This is an issue.
01:05:06.470 --> 01:05:08.690
This issue very went to meet my family
01:05:08.690 --> 01:05:12.833
and all the residential and the consumer.
01:05:13.820 --> 01:05:16.970
I didn't know about the affordable solar for low income.
01:05:16.970 --> 01:05:20.140
So, I apply for personal loan for $15,000
01:05:20.140 --> 01:05:23.120
to purchase a solar panel for my house.
01:05:23.120 --> 01:05:28.120
And I am the only sole provider with income 48,000 per year.
01:05:29.900 --> 01:05:32.093
Solar panel has helped me a lot.
01:05:33.090 --> 01:05:35.520
You know, like I say every penny account.
01:05:35.520 --> 01:05:38.730
So they do save my energy bill.
01:05:38.730 --> 01:05:41.210
And I also believe that to teach my kids
01:05:41.210 --> 01:05:43.963
to be go green and clean air and savior,
01:05:45.330 --> 01:05:48.573
please do not adopt proposal for the solar tax.
01:05:50.090 --> 01:05:52.563
And just one quick request.
01:05:53.730 --> 01:05:55.813
Do you have a winning lottery numbers?
01:05:57.890 --> 01:06:00.020
Just a joke. (laughing)
01:06:00.020 --> 01:06:00.853
Thank you.
01:06:02.370 --> 01:06:04.763
Thank you, operator, next caller, please.
01:06:06.200 --> 01:06:08.130
Our next caller is Don Lebarake.
01:06:08.130 --> 01:06:09.013
You may go ahead.
01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:14.263
Yes.
01:06:17.420 --> 01:06:18.320
Please go ahead.
01:06:26.090 --> 01:06:27.170
And Don your line open.
01:06:27.170 --> 01:06:28.350
We're not able to hear you.
01:06:28.350 --> 01:06:29.850
Please check your mute button.
01:06:35.930 --> 01:06:36.933
Doesn't open.
01:06:38.070 --> 01:06:39.723
Mr. Lebarake, please go ahead.
01:06:53.870 --> 01:06:55.890
It looks like Don's line has disconnected.
01:06:55.890 --> 01:06:59.810
Our next caller is Sasha Champlinter.
01:06:59.810 --> 01:07:00.660
You may go ahead.
01:07:03.604 --> 01:07:05.150
[Sasha Champlinter] Hello. My name is Sasha Champlinter.
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I'm the owner of Harmony Air
01:07:07.520 --> 01:07:11.770
and we are a local family owned company in Lake county,
01:07:11.770 --> 01:07:15.410
California have been around for 15 years
01:07:15.410 --> 01:07:20.410
and we providing jobs for local people and their families.
01:07:21.160 --> 01:07:23.700
And I'm strongly opposed NEM three,
01:07:23.700 --> 01:07:26.930
because it's gonna kill our business.
01:07:26.930 --> 01:07:29.240
It's gonna take away the ability of our workers
01:07:29.240 --> 01:07:33.130
to have ability to provide their families.
01:07:33.130 --> 01:07:35.430
There is no mystery or doubt that NEM three
01:07:35.430 --> 01:07:39.320
is there to support profit for utilities,
01:07:39.320 --> 01:07:41.530
and it's certainly against people of California
01:07:41.530 --> 01:07:43.523
and climate and planet.
01:07:44.680 --> 01:07:48.080
Please do not support NEM three
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besides the economic problem.
01:07:52.370 --> 01:07:55.640
The distributed solar is the only way to support
01:07:56.720 --> 01:07:59.870
the local community over here during the power outages,
01:07:59.870 --> 01:08:04.870
due to fire, utilities have a certainly no way whatsoever
01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:09.740
to provide energy when the grid collapses
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during the(indistinct)(alarm ringing)
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Thank you very much.
01:08:13.497 --> 01:08:14.330
Thank you.
01:08:14.330 --> 01:08:15.380
Thank you very much.
01:08:15.380 --> 01:08:16.830
Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Jackie Eckland.
01:08:20.590 --> 01:08:21.443
You may go ahead.
01:08:22.700 --> 01:08:24.740
Hi, Can you hear me?
01:08:24.740 --> 01:08:26.990
Yes, we can please go ahead.
01:08:26.990 --> 01:08:30.240
Hi, Jackie Eckland residence of Torrance,
01:08:30.240 --> 01:08:33.520
please do not adopt the proposal for a rooftop solar tax.
01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:35.520
A couple years ago, I installed solar panels
01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:37.220
to protect the environment.
01:08:37.220 --> 01:08:38.270
I've always conserved.
01:08:38.270 --> 01:08:40.280
I was brought up that way to protect
01:08:40.280 --> 01:08:41.570
the environment, conserve energy.
01:08:41.570 --> 01:08:44.100
And when I was a customer of Southern California Edison,
01:08:44.100 --> 01:08:46.280
I paid no more than $35 a month.
01:08:46.280 --> 01:08:47.940
This new proposal would charge a higher fee
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than my old Southern California Edison bill.
01:08:50.970 --> 01:08:53.530
People will not be encouraged or able to afford
01:08:53.530 --> 01:08:55.830
to install solar panels if this passes.
01:08:55.830 --> 01:08:58.270
We've seen the effects of climate change in our state,
01:08:58.270 --> 01:09:00.110
this proposal does not help in this effort.
01:09:00.110 --> 01:09:02.840
It only rewards the utility companies.
01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:04.040
Thank you for your time.
01:09:05.370 --> 01:09:06.203
Thank you.
01:09:06.203 --> 01:09:07.493
Operator, next caller please.
01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:12.010
Our next caller is Faye Johnson.
01:09:12.010 --> 01:09:12.860
You may go ahead.
01:09:13.860 --> 01:09:14.860
Hi.
01:09:16.040 --> 01:09:18.840
I live in Santa Cruz in the Santa Cruz mountains
01:09:18.840 --> 01:09:23.840
and we are in the highest tier for wildfire risk.
01:09:25.380 --> 01:09:30.380
And we're also in the CZU lightning fire complex area.
01:09:31.020 --> 01:09:35.860
Although to be fair, this is not one that PG&E caused.
01:09:35.860 --> 01:09:40.860
So, we get a lot of those public safety power shut off.
01:09:41.060 --> 01:09:45.170
And when they shut off our power,
01:09:45.170 --> 01:09:49.580
we are at the end of the transmission line and PG&E
01:09:49.580 --> 01:09:54.100
has to travel over a 100 miles to check out
01:09:54.100 --> 01:09:58.460
elderly miles of transmission line.
01:09:58.460 --> 01:10:03.460
So, the local solar and storage batteries are just about
01:10:04.580 --> 01:10:08.770
our only chance to keep our medical appliances working
01:10:08.770 --> 01:10:11.240
and medications and food safe.
01:10:11.240 --> 01:10:15.490
Please do not tax us for having done the right thing.
01:10:15.490 --> 01:10:16.323
Thank you.
01:10:17.420 --> 01:10:18.253
Thank you.
01:10:18.253 --> 01:10:19.803
Operator next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Gary Brown.
01:10:23.140 --> 01:10:24.043
You may go ahead.
01:10:25.870 --> 01:10:27.120
Thank you.
01:10:28.170 --> 01:10:32.710
And thanks to the president and the Commissioners and staff.
01:10:32.710 --> 01:10:34.200
My name's Gary Brown.
01:10:34.200 --> 01:10:39.140
I'm a working class resident located in California
01:10:40.050 --> 01:10:44.403
and I've devoted a great deal of financial resources
01:10:45.890 --> 01:10:48.877
towards solar energy and the cars
01:10:50.100 --> 01:10:55.100
installing rooftop solar and electric vehicle
01:10:55.840 --> 01:10:57.790
and dealing with the finances.
01:10:57.790 --> 01:11:00.840
And I find it's shockingly disappointing
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that our Governor and the California Public Utility
01:11:04.390 --> 01:11:07.510
Commission would undercut and penalize working class
01:11:07.510 --> 01:11:09.940
Americans that invest and promote efforts
01:11:09.940 --> 01:11:14.290
to fight climate change, to stop the proliferation
01:11:14.290 --> 01:11:18.270
of air pollution by fossil fuel power plants.
01:11:18.270 --> 01:11:22.740
You know, this ruling runs contrary to the historical
01:11:22.740 --> 01:11:24.900
California clean air efforts to achieve
01:11:24.900 --> 01:11:27.290
sustainable energy goals.
01:11:27.290 --> 01:11:31.750
Not only is it disingenuous and bad faith regulatory policy,
01:11:31.750 --> 01:11:34.800
but it violate the principles of fairness
01:11:34.800 --> 01:11:37.320
to impose fixed charges on customers
01:11:38.781 --> 01:11:41.299
and who choose to install solar systems.
01:11:41.299 --> 01:11:43.920
This--(indistinct)
(alarm ringing)
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Thank you very much.
01:11:45.660 --> 01:11:47.204
Okay, bye.
01:11:47.204 --> 01:11:48.037
Thanks for your comments.
01:11:48.037 --> 01:11:49.583
Operator, next caller please.
01:11:52.240 --> 01:11:54.810
Our next caller is Ahe Ginsburg.
01:11:54.810 --> 01:11:56.040
You're not, line is open
01:11:56.040 --> 01:11:57.140
Can you hear me?
01:11:57.140 --> 01:11:57.973
Can you hear me?
01:11:57.973 --> 01:12:00.320
Yes we can, please go ahead.
01:12:00.320 --> 01:12:03.550
My name is Ahe Ginsburg and I'm involved in our family
01:12:03.550 --> 01:12:06.610
owned startup company GizmoPower.com.
01:12:06.610 --> 01:12:10.300
Gizmo power is spelled with an S and we created Gizmo power
01:12:10.300 --> 01:12:12.260
to support our daughter Antonia
01:12:13.707 --> 01:12:14.870
develop at market her invention,
01:12:14.870 --> 01:12:18.390
a powerful portable solar car port on wheels
01:12:18.390 --> 01:12:20.850
is integrated EV charger.
01:12:20.850 --> 01:12:23.400
With the current rate proposal and the solar tax
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we would not be able to grow our business in California.
01:12:26.740 --> 01:12:29.230
Net metering is a just compensation rate
01:12:29.230 --> 01:12:31.700
for renewable electricity generation,
01:12:31.700 --> 01:12:33.650
close to the location where the renewable
01:12:33.650 --> 01:12:35.690
electricity is needed.
01:12:35.690 --> 01:12:39.780
Distributed PV installations avoid significant upgrade costs
01:12:39.780 --> 01:12:41.750
to the electric grid in comparison
01:12:41.750 --> 01:12:44.020
to utility owned solar bonds,
01:12:44.020 --> 01:12:47.010
which are located far away from the users.
01:12:47.010 --> 01:12:49.460
As the California Public Utility Commission
01:12:49.460 --> 01:12:52.340
you should honor this reality and reject the distorted
01:12:52.340 --> 01:12:55.300
narrative of cross subsidy to derail
01:12:55.300 --> 01:12:59.500
the just compensation rate for are an effective technology.
01:12:59.500 --> 01:13:03.442
The current net metering compensation rate is not too high.
01:13:03.442 --> 01:13:04.344
(alarm ringing)
01:13:04.344 --> 01:13:05.570
The current net metering rate is too low
01:13:05.570 --> 01:13:07.804
if you take the additional real estate cost--
01:13:07.804 --> 01:13:09.513
Thank you very much
01:13:09.513 --> 01:13:11.190
Thanks for your comments.
01:13:11.190 --> 01:13:13.003
Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Jim Shaw.
01:13:15.620 --> 01:13:16.563
You may go ahead.
01:13:18.220 --> 01:13:19.880
Hi, my name is Jim Shaw.
01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:22.570
I'm with O'Connell Solar Consulting.
01:13:22.570 --> 01:13:26.870
Our primary business is representing farmers in agriculture.
01:13:26.870 --> 01:13:30.423
Agriculture is one of the cornerstones of our economy.
01:13:30.423 --> 01:13:32.470
It's one of the only industries that pays
01:13:32.470 --> 01:13:35.070
sickly pays retail for everything,
01:13:35.070 --> 01:13:37.763
and then sells at wholesale everything it produces,
01:13:38.730 --> 01:13:42.640
which still we faced with additional costs of doing business
01:13:42.640 --> 01:13:45.360
and hedging our electrical costs with solar
01:13:45.360 --> 01:13:47.880
is the only overhead we can hedge with
01:13:47.880 --> 01:13:50.850
to be both environmentally and financially sustainable
01:13:51.830 --> 01:13:54.750
because the majority of agricultural is seasonal
01:13:54.750 --> 01:13:57.540
were highly dependent on export credits.
01:13:57.540 --> 01:13:59.880
The proposals under consideration will destroy
01:13:59.880 --> 01:14:02.210
the economic feasibility of solar
01:14:02.210 --> 01:14:04.900
for our seasonal pumps and processors.
01:14:04.900 --> 01:14:07.920
The result, lost jobs in both solar
01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:09.590
and agricultural industries
01:14:09.590 --> 01:14:12.610
and higher food costs for everyone.
01:14:12.610 --> 01:14:15.110
Please rule against the proposed rate changes
01:14:15.110 --> 01:14:17.870
in their present form and continue to support
01:14:17.870 --> 01:14:21.330
customer side distributed energy.
01:14:21.330 --> 01:14:22.910
Thank you.
01:14:22.910 --> 01:14:25.313
Thank you, operator, next caller, please.
01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:30.570
Our next caller is Tom Thompson.
01:14:30.570 --> 01:14:31.420
You may go ahead.
01:14:34.877 --> 01:14:37.710
I just...(indistinct)
01:14:37.710 --> 01:14:38.970
Again Tom Thompson,
01:14:38.970 --> 01:14:39.960
your line is open.
01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:40.810
You may go ahead.
01:14:43.420 --> 01:14:44.253
I'm a loader.
01:14:44.253 --> 01:14:46.240
I work...(indistinct)
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Mr. Thompson, we're ready for your comments.
01:14:51.670 --> 01:14:52.503
Hello, I'm here.
01:14:52.503 --> 01:14:53.336
Thank you.
01:14:54.910 --> 01:14:56.960
Thank you for the opportunity to testify.
01:14:57.950 --> 01:15:00.110
My name is Tom Thompson and I'm the vice president
01:15:00.110 --> 01:15:02.163
of sales for the Solaria corporation,
01:15:03.440 --> 01:15:06.510
a renewable energy, solar energy technology company
01:15:06.510 --> 01:15:08.593
headquartered in Fremont, California.
01:15:13.540 --> 01:15:15.690
Solaria establishes global manufacturing
01:15:15.690 --> 01:15:18.360
and R&D base in the bay area over 20 years ago
01:15:18.360 --> 01:15:21.950
based on California's leadership in the public policy arena
01:15:21.950 --> 01:15:24.230
and the role that smart energy policies play
01:15:24.230 --> 01:15:27.200
creating viable competitive markets.
01:15:27.200 --> 01:15:29.630
It has worked during our two plus decades
01:15:29.630 --> 01:15:31.970
here we have employed thousands of Californians
01:15:31.970 --> 01:15:34.360
while contributing billions of dollars
01:15:34.360 --> 01:15:36.960
to California's economic engine.
01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:39.177
We are speaking an opposition to the proposed
01:15:39.177 --> 01:15:43.185
NEM three decision, what has become known as the solar tax.
01:15:43.185 --> 01:15:45.680
The NEM three proposed decision is extreme.
01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:48.190
It would quickly cut California's rooftop market
01:15:48.190 --> 01:15:51.980
by as much as 50% quoting to billions of dollars
01:15:51.980 --> 01:15:53.970
of economic activity.
01:15:53.970 --> 01:15:55.413
For me and my colleagues at Solaria,
01:15:55.413 --> 01:15:58.170
the NEM three proposed decision puts our jobs
01:15:58.170 --> 01:16:00.310
and our family's like security at risk,
01:16:00.310 --> 01:16:03.620
but the job killing effects of the NEM three solar tax,
01:16:03.620 --> 01:16:05.500
as you have heard from many today,
01:16:05.500 --> 01:16:07.058
extend well beyond solar area.
01:16:07.058 --> 01:16:08.160
(alarm ringing)
01:16:08.160 --> 01:16:09.492
Thank you very much.
01:16:09.492 --> 01:16:10.376
Thank you very much.
01:16:10.376 --> 01:16:11.209
I encourage you to consider it.
01:16:11.209 --> 01:16:12.042
Thank you.
01:16:12.042 --> 01:16:12.875
Thank you very much.
01:16:12.875 --> 01:16:14.110
Operator Nick caller, please.
01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:17.430
Our next caller is Stephanie Brown.
01:16:17.430 --> 01:16:18.373
You may go ahead.
01:16:23.070 --> 01:16:23.990
Hello.
01:16:23.990 --> 01:16:28.850
Stephanie Brown representing TWW Indivisible Los Gatos
01:16:29.700 --> 01:16:31.770
OCI orchard city indivisible,
01:16:31.770 --> 01:16:34.740
which is in Silicon valley and myself.
01:16:34.740 --> 01:16:38.330
I'm a resident of San Jose and I'm thrilled
01:16:38.330 --> 01:16:40.190
to be participating in this amazing
01:16:40.190 --> 01:16:41.590
demonstration of democracy.
01:16:41.590 --> 01:16:44.720
I'm honored to join these people as I'm sure
01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:47.610
the Commission is honored to be listening.
01:16:47.610 --> 01:16:50.160
And I also wanna welcome the two new Commissioners.
01:16:51.190 --> 01:16:55.250
I only wanna say join in with the other voices,
01:16:55.250 --> 01:16:58.240
but say that we need solutions
01:16:58.240 --> 01:17:01.410
for the climate crisis today.
01:17:01.410 --> 01:17:05.220
Not tomorrow, it's starting to be too late.
01:17:05.220 --> 01:17:08.040
So we really need the Commission to please
01:17:08.040 --> 01:17:11.960
lead our state in finding really good solutions.
01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:14.640
Let's not change the current incentive.
01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:17.430
As a matter of fact, please, I plead with you
01:17:17.430 --> 01:17:19.780
lead the Governor, lead the state,
01:17:19.780 --> 01:17:24.570
lead our citizens in increasing the incentives.
01:17:26.540 --> 01:17:27.653
Thank you very much.
01:17:28.740 --> 01:17:30.120
Thank you, operator.
01:17:30.120 --> 01:17:31.233
Next caller, please.
01:17:33.361 --> 01:17:34.970
Our next caller is Addison marks.
01:17:34.970 --> 01:17:35.883
You may go ahead.
01:17:39.100 --> 01:17:40.014
Yeah.
01:17:40.014 --> 01:17:40.847
Hi everybody.
01:17:40.847 --> 01:17:43.700
20 years ago, I started selling to home builders
01:17:43.700 --> 01:17:45.550
'cause I thought it was a good idea when a new home
01:17:45.550 --> 01:17:50.270
was being built to put solar on and now approaching
01:17:50.270 --> 01:17:55.270
19, 20 years later, we've done about a 100,000 homes
01:17:55.330 --> 01:17:58.220
that service, moderate single family
01:17:58.220 --> 01:18:00.850
multi-family homeowners with solar.
01:18:00.850 --> 01:18:03.040
Our team at Sun Tower has grown
01:18:03.040 --> 01:18:05.860
about 250 employees in our business unit.
01:18:05.860 --> 01:18:10.250
If NEM three passes, it's gonna undermine
01:18:10.250 --> 01:18:13.060
the value proposition for new homes.
01:18:13.060 --> 01:18:15.860
And it's actually gonna cause homeowners more
01:18:15.860 --> 01:18:19.370
to pay for energy than if they did not have solar at all.
01:18:19.370 --> 01:18:22.430
So, the result of this would be less affordable homes
01:18:22.430 --> 01:18:25.980
and an already expensive market in California.
01:18:25.980 --> 01:18:28.230
And will decrease California's residence,
01:18:28.230 --> 01:18:32.030
the ability to own an afford a home in our great state.
01:18:32.030 --> 01:18:34.870
So, I urge you on behalf behalf of California homeowners
01:18:34.870 --> 01:18:37.950
and new constructed homes that are being mandated
01:18:37.950 --> 01:18:41.430
to have solar to reject this proposal.
01:18:41.430 --> 01:18:43.300
Thank you very much.
01:18:43.300 --> 01:18:44.200
Thank you.
01:18:44.200 --> 01:18:45.713
Operator, next caller please.
01:18:48.030 --> 01:18:50.350
Our next caller is Marcy Snyder.
01:18:50.350 --> 01:18:51.323
You may go ahead.
01:18:56.550 --> 01:18:57.383
Yes.
01:18:57.383 --> 01:18:59.370
Good afternoon Governor Newsome
01:18:59.370 --> 01:19:01.180
and members of the Commission.
01:19:01.180 --> 01:19:04.460
My name is Marcy Snyder and I live in Fort Bragg.
01:19:04.460 --> 01:19:07.130
I think the voters are speaking really loudly to you
01:19:07.130 --> 01:19:09.350
and I want to thank all the people
01:19:09.350 --> 01:19:12.550
that have called in opposing this proposal
01:19:12.550 --> 01:19:16.760
by the investor owned utility.
01:19:16.760 --> 01:19:20.893
I have been a rooftop solar person.
01:19:22.176 --> 01:19:23.970
I've had rooftop solar for over 30 years.
01:19:23.970 --> 01:19:27.710
I urge you to please fix this proposal
01:19:27.710 --> 01:19:29.500
in the following ways.
01:19:29.500 --> 01:19:33.090
No solar tax, no one should be penalized
01:19:33.090 --> 01:19:35.273
for having solar on their rooftops.
01:19:36.740 --> 01:19:38.940
Net three metering.
01:19:38.940 --> 01:19:43.940
It has to be penciled out and to honor the 20 year contract
01:19:46.280 --> 01:19:51.280
with that you have with solar users scraps this proposal
01:19:51.300 --> 01:19:56.300
from the IOUs rooftop solar saves taxpayers money,
01:19:56.910 --> 01:20:01.290
rooftop solar directly mitigate addresses,
01:20:01.290 --> 01:20:02.466
California wildfire.
01:20:02.466 --> 01:20:04.640
(alarm ringing)
01:20:04.640 --> 01:20:05.473
Thank you.
01:20:05.473 --> 01:20:07.620
Rooftop, solar direct--
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Operator.
01:20:08.770 --> 01:20:09.603
Thank you.
01:20:09.603 --> 01:20:10.840
We need to move to the next caller.
01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:11.673
Thank you.
01:20:12.610 --> 01:20:15.050
Our next caller is Angelica Vale
01:20:15.050 --> 01:20:16.523
You, you may go ahead.
01:20:20.180 --> 01:20:21.350
Hello.
01:20:21.350 --> 01:20:22.960
Hi, my name is Angelica Vale
01:20:22.960 --> 01:20:24.330
and I live in TLE, California.
01:20:24.330 --> 01:20:26.270
I'm against the proposed solar penalty fee
01:20:26.270 --> 01:20:29.760
and I'm against slashing the value of rooftop solar by 80%.
01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:31.280
Nobody should pay a penalty for putting
01:20:31.280 --> 01:20:32.780
solar panels on their roof.
01:20:32.780 --> 01:20:35.820
Rooftop solar empowers homeowners and prevents harmful
01:20:35.820 --> 01:20:38.280
developments of solar fields by the utilities
01:20:38.280 --> 01:20:40.960
and extension of supporting grids, California
01:20:40.960 --> 01:20:45.180
should be doing more, not less to promote rooftop solar.
01:20:45.180 --> 01:20:48.400
Please show us your serious about the rate hikes,
01:20:48.400 --> 01:20:51.410
blackout, inner pollution saying no to the utilities
01:20:51.410 --> 01:20:54.060
profit grab and say yes to helping millions
01:20:54.060 --> 01:20:56.240
of working class people to get solar.
01:20:56.240 --> 01:20:58.380
Please support the expansion of solar
01:20:58.380 --> 01:21:01.340
and the battery storage by expanding tax rebates,
01:21:01.340 --> 01:21:03.660
state rebates, and making solar more affordable.
01:21:03.660 --> 01:21:06.290
Please end the support for NEM 3.0,
01:21:06.290 --> 01:21:10.213
please help reduce the ROI for the utility.
01:21:11.730 --> 01:21:12.563
Thank you.
01:21:13.570 --> 01:21:14.410
Thank you.
01:21:14.410 --> 01:21:15.903
Operator, next caller please.
01:21:17.280 --> 01:21:18.900
Our next caller is Jennifer Tanner.
01:21:18.900 --> 01:21:19.863
You may go ahead.
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Yes.
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Hi Jennifer Tanner, invisible California green team.
01:21:26.490 --> 01:21:27.387
Thank you all for hanging in there
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and letting all of us speak.
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There is a consortium of fossil fuel funded groups
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with the same agenda to Kill top solar all over America.
01:21:35.800 --> 01:21:38.760
And I see you're wondering about the similarity,
01:21:38.760 --> 01:21:42.200
as we speak, Florida legislature is considering a bill
01:21:42.200 --> 01:21:45.250
eerily similar to what the CPUC is proposing.
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Is that a coincidence.
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All over America, there are special actions
01:21:48.900 --> 01:21:51.470
in various states to kill top solar at the behest
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of the IOU'S for their profits at the expense
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of clean energy and climate resilience.
01:21:57.500 --> 01:22:01.150
Alec, a fossil fuel funded tank is notorious
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for promoting ideas to kill all of rooftop solar,
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is that who we listen to?
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120,000 people over 600 groups,
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cities and schools have already told you
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what the right thing is.
01:22:12.767 --> 01:22:15.170
And 450 people today.
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Please listen to them.
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Not fossil fuel funded interests,
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under your new leadership Commissioner Reynolds
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and the other two new ones.
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Can we please go back to California leading way?
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Linda Hemingway.
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You may go ahead.
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Okay.
01:22:39.277 --> 01:22:41.800
Hi, my name is Linda Hemingway.
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I live in Santa Rosa, California.
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15 years ago, we put solar panels on our house.
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We are retired teachers by definition not rich.
01:22:54.220 --> 01:22:58.130
We have, we are not part of the problem.
01:22:58.130 --> 01:22:59.530
We are part of the solution.
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We do our part.
01:23:02.530 --> 01:23:05.010
We brag about our solar panels all the time
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and encourage everyone we know to get them.
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We lived up to the deal we made 15 years ago.
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Now this proposed change breaks the rules
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and hurts folks like us.
01:23:16.550 --> 01:23:18.550
Please reject this proposal.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
01:23:21.320 --> 01:23:22.863
Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Dana Smith.
01:23:26.330 --> 01:23:27.180
You may go ahead.
01:23:28.850 --> 01:23:29.683
This is Dana Smith.
01:23:29.683 --> 01:23:31.710
I've been in solar for 11 years.
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I sell residential commercial, nonprofit, solar.
01:23:35.280 --> 01:23:38.520
I'm old enough to witness when tobacco companies could buy
01:23:38.520 --> 01:23:42.440
reports in white papers saying smoking didn't cause cancer
01:23:42.440 --> 01:23:45.140
and witness people that should know better believe them.
01:23:45.140 --> 01:23:48.880
I learned a new term today, captured regulator.
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Now I'm witnessing utilities buying reports
01:23:51.370 --> 01:23:54.000
that shift blame away from real problems.
01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:56.640
These reports have a few true facts about solar,
01:23:56.640 --> 01:23:58.900
but they're mostly misleading and untrue.
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A librarian would not know whether to file
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'em under fiction or comedy.
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The cost shift is true,
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but it's when consumers give too much
01:24:06.610 --> 01:24:08.840
hard earned dollars to the utilities.
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That's the true cost shift.
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Californians pay way too much,
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much higher than other places in the country in the world.
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It is the CPUCs responsibility.
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Fix that problem.
01:24:20.200 --> 01:24:21.800
Fix the utilities.
01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:23.390
Please leave solar alone.
01:24:23.390 --> 01:24:26.200
Consumers are fleeing these high rates.
01:24:26.200 --> 01:24:27.290
That's the problem.
01:24:27.290 --> 01:24:30.010
Fix high rates, please don't kill solar and close
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the only exit consumers have.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
01:24:36.100 --> 01:24:37.700
Operator our next caller please.
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Our next caller is Andrew Hoopers.
01:24:43.500 --> 01:24:44.350
You may go ahead.
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Hello?
01:24:51.133 --> 01:24:52.410
Can you hear me?
01:24:52.410 --> 01:24:54.330
Yes, we can hear you please go ahead.
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Okay.
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Last name is actually pubs.
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I'm a resident in SIM valley, California.
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And let me remind you, this is the CPUC mission statement.
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The California public utilities Commission
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serves the public interest by protecting consumers
01:25:07.220 --> 01:25:10.480
and ensuring the provision of safe, reliable utilities,
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service, and infrastructure reasonable rate
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with a comment, commitment, excuse me,
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to environmental enhancement
01:25:19.010 --> 01:25:21.580
and healthy California economy.
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I have to say, if you approve this,
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you are derelict in that mission statement.
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That's all I have.
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Thank you, operator.
01:25:29.433 --> 01:25:31.033
Next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Cindy Bailey.
01:25:34.290 --> 01:25:35.240
You make, go ahead.
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Hi, I'm Cindy Bailey.
01:25:38.020 --> 01:25:40.080
I live in Culver city, California.
01:25:40.080 --> 01:25:44.040
And I'm on this call to plead with you
01:25:44.040 --> 01:25:46.930
to oppose this proposal.
01:25:46.930 --> 01:25:50.480
It is flawed on so many levels
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for those people who called in to say they thought
01:25:52.530 --> 01:25:54.680
it was a good idea because we have our peak hours
01:25:54.680 --> 01:25:57.010
on some, not during the sunshine.
01:25:57.010 --> 01:26:01.250
Those of us who have batteries have a solution for that.
01:26:01.250 --> 01:26:03.930
We do the battery storage with our extra solar
01:26:03.930 --> 01:26:06.530
throughout the day, and then we give it back to the grid.
01:26:06.530 --> 01:26:08.760
So, the answer to that problem is to get
01:26:08.760 --> 01:26:12.203
more people and give more incentives for battery storage.
01:26:13.060 --> 01:26:16.380
I would absolutely agree with everyone else
01:26:16.380 --> 01:26:17.890
that is on the call.
01:26:17.890 --> 01:26:21.100
What they've said, I was a forestry major to begin with
01:26:21.100 --> 01:26:22.970
and ended up as a healthcare per professional
01:26:22.970 --> 01:26:24.460
and a first responder.
01:26:24.460 --> 01:26:29.460
So, I put on solar a year ago and with...
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I will not break even for two, three or four more years.
01:26:33.150 --> 01:26:35.620
And now if this goes through, I will never break even.
01:26:35.620 --> 01:26:38.290
It will have cost me to put solar on.
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I do pay grid fees every month on my adjusted bill,
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just like everyone else.
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Thank you.
01:26:44.840 --> 01:26:45.673
Thank you.
01:26:46.710 --> 01:26:48.263
Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Richard Scaff.
01:26:52.020 --> 01:26:52.853
You may go ahead
01:27:00.430 --> 01:27:02.200
Again, Richard Scaff, your line is open.
01:27:02.200 --> 01:27:03.700
Please check your mute button.
01:27:10.240 --> 01:27:13.130
Mr Scaff, Please go ahead.
01:27:13.130 --> 01:27:13.963
Hello.
01:27:13.963 --> 01:27:14.910
Can you hear me?
01:27:14.910 --> 01:27:16.590
We can hear you now, please go ahead.
01:27:16.590 --> 01:27:17.741
Okay.
01:27:17.741 --> 01:27:18.574
Thank you, I apologize.
01:27:18.574 --> 01:27:19.407
My name is Richard Scaff.
01:27:19.407 --> 01:27:21.760
I live in Sonoma county, one of the Northern California
01:27:21.760 --> 01:27:25.510
counties devastated by PG&E caused wildfires
01:27:25.510 --> 01:27:27.540
that has destroyed communities and killed
01:27:27.540 --> 01:27:28.470
numerous residents.
01:27:28.470 --> 01:27:31.570
I am calling to ask that you reject the for-profit electric
01:27:31.570 --> 01:27:35.110
utility proposed solar penalty tax.
01:27:35.110 --> 01:27:37.980
And instead ask that you ensure that solar and battery
01:27:37.980 --> 01:27:41.270
storage becomes more affordable for low income working
01:27:41.270 --> 01:27:42.910
in middle class households,
01:27:42.910 --> 01:27:44.720
but especially for vulnerable seniors
01:27:44.720 --> 01:27:46.210
and people with disabilities,
01:27:46.210 --> 01:27:49.300
many of whom are medical baseline customers
01:27:49.300 --> 01:27:53.810
and are 20% of the California population.
01:27:53.810 --> 01:27:56.100
And our rooftop solar and battery storage
01:27:56.100 --> 01:27:57.890
is the best and proven way for people
01:27:57.890 --> 01:28:00.060
to protect themselves from power outages.
01:28:00.060 --> 01:28:02.290
This is especially important for vulnerable seniors
01:28:02.290 --> 01:28:05.120
and people with disabilities who depend on consistent
01:28:05.120 --> 01:28:07.280
electricity to operate life supporting medical
01:28:07.280 --> 01:28:08.670
and mobility equipment.
01:28:08.670 --> 01:28:11.050
The portable batteries that the electric utilities
01:28:11.050 --> 01:28:13.410
have funded for a few vulnerable seniors
01:28:13.410 --> 01:28:16.120
and people with disabilities have proven inadequate
01:28:16.120 --> 01:28:21.080
and for the rest of the state's vulnerable ratepayers
01:28:21.080 --> 01:28:23.057
permanently installed residential batteries
01:28:23.057 --> 01:28:26.360
and solar to recharge those batteries as the only
01:28:26.360 --> 01:28:28.320
mitigation that will assure that vulnerable
01:28:28.320 --> 01:28:31.010
seniors and people with disabilities have the needed
01:28:31.010 --> 01:28:34.200
consistent electric use electricity
01:28:34.200 --> 01:28:38.260
during electric utility DE energy events.
01:28:38.260 --> 01:28:41.500
Thank you very much.
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Thank you very much.
01:28:42.780 --> 01:28:44.473
Operator, next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Pete Marsh.
01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:49.053
You may go ahead.
01:28:55.837 --> 01:28:57.400
Hi, good afternoon Commissioners.
01:28:57.400 --> 01:28:59.100
I'm Pete marsh, founder and owner
01:28:59.100 --> 01:29:01.300
of Vector Green Power in Long Beach.
01:29:01.300 --> 01:29:03.130
I'm a veteran having served 30 years
01:29:03.130 --> 01:29:05.690
in the US Coast guard and the defense industry.
01:29:05.690 --> 01:29:07.950
When I learned about the harm we're doing to our economy
01:29:07.950 --> 01:29:11.630
and public health through fossil fire, global warming,
01:29:11.630 --> 01:29:14.490
I committed to transitioning into a renewable career
01:29:15.480 --> 01:29:16.950
as my third career.
01:29:16.950 --> 01:29:20.100
I self apprentice in solar construction earned a C46
01:29:20.100 --> 01:29:23.820
contract years license and founded a small business.
01:29:23.820 --> 01:29:25.473
I could see as soon as I entered the industry
01:29:25.473 --> 01:29:28.390
that the original them was not sustainable long term,
01:29:28.390 --> 01:29:31.040
it was designed to create an important industry
01:29:31.040 --> 01:29:33.320
at which it has succeeded wildly.
01:29:33.320 --> 01:29:35.320
I acknowledge it needs revision,
01:29:35.320 --> 01:29:39.400
but this PD is a complex clumsy misdirected policy
01:29:39.400 --> 01:29:41.210
that would decimate my company,
01:29:41.210 --> 01:29:42.830
just like all the other business owners
01:29:42.830 --> 01:29:45.320
and solar employees you've heard from today.
01:29:45.320 --> 01:29:47.880
I proudly marched in the LA rally two weeks ago,
01:29:47.880 --> 01:29:51.040
wearing my hard hat and my fall protection harness,
01:29:51.040 --> 01:29:54.740
carrying a sign that explained it was because CPUC
01:29:54.740 --> 01:29:57.840
was threatening to push my business off the roof.
01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:00.380
My three amazing granddaughters and I employ you
01:30:00.380 --> 01:30:02.830
so please, don't do that.
01:30:02.830 --> 01:30:04.270
Thank you.
01:30:04.270 --> 01:30:05.570
Thank you.
01:30:05.570 --> 01:30:07.283
Operator, next caller please.
01:30:08.850 --> 01:30:10.710
Our next caller is Jason Scott.
01:30:10.710 --> 01:30:11.603
You may go ahead.
01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:18.150
Hello, my name's Jason Scott.
01:30:18.150 --> 01:30:21.100
I'm a volunteer board member of the school
01:30:21.100 --> 01:30:23.090
for children with autism.
01:30:23.090 --> 01:30:25.110
These children have behaviors that prevent them
01:30:25.110 --> 01:30:29.320
from attending a typical public school in district.
01:30:29.320 --> 01:30:31.530
Our program is essentially a last chance for many
01:30:31.530 --> 01:30:34.260
of these children who have autism
01:30:34.260 --> 01:30:36.620
from being institutionalized.
01:30:36.620 --> 01:30:39.490
Schools have been hit with egregious rate increases
01:30:39.490 --> 01:30:42.730
and are forced to pull funds from educational programs
01:30:42.730 --> 01:30:44.600
to pay their elected bills.
01:30:44.600 --> 01:30:46.830
One of the ways to schools are able to reduce their costs
01:30:46.830 --> 01:30:49.180
through their rooftop is through rooftop solar.
01:30:50.110 --> 01:30:52.730
Schools can afford or can't afford to fund solar.
01:30:52.730 --> 01:30:55.470
So, these are funded through PPAs where a bank funds
01:30:55.470 --> 01:30:58.340
the project and they charge the schools substantially
01:30:58.340 --> 01:31:00.800
less than what the utility does.
01:31:00.800 --> 01:31:02.870
The PPAs are modeled on 20 year agreements
01:31:02.870 --> 01:31:07.870
from the utilities proposed by the banks and models as such.
01:31:09.010 --> 01:31:10.590
The proposed changes are gonna nullify
01:31:10.590 --> 01:31:12.300
all of these agreements and change
01:31:12.300 --> 01:31:14.023
all of the terms retroactively.
01:31:14.890 --> 01:31:16.770
The financial model used for these agreements
01:31:16.770 --> 01:31:18.620
will be thrown out the window and the schools
01:31:18.620 --> 01:31:21.510
will be hit with even higher costs than before.
01:31:21.510 --> 01:31:25.199
If this is the bank rates and terms(alarm ringing)
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(indistinct) mortgage changing every bank owner--
01:31:31.330 --> 01:31:32.913
Operator, next caller please.
01:31:34.120 --> 01:31:36.530
Our next caller is Lionel Rodriguez.
01:31:36.530 --> 01:31:37.370
You may go ahead
01:31:49.580 --> 01:31:50.970
Again, Lionel Rodriguez.
01:31:50.970 --> 01:31:51.870
Your line is open.
01:31:51.870 --> 01:31:53.370
Please check your mute button.
01:32:10.310 --> 01:32:11.143
Operator.
01:32:11.143 --> 01:32:12.340
Let's move to the next caller.
01:32:12.340 --> 01:32:13.173
Thank you.
01:32:21.380 --> 01:32:23.620
Our next caller is GN. Caroline Park.
01:32:23.620 --> 01:32:24.470
You may go ahead.
01:32:27.502 --> 01:32:28.335
[GN. Caroline Park] Hello.
01:32:29.790 --> 01:32:34.790
My name is GN. Caroline Park from Tom land Los Angeles.
01:32:35.180 --> 01:32:37.300
I'm an executive board member in the California
01:32:37.300 --> 01:32:41.030
democratic party for identification purposes only.
01:32:41.030 --> 01:32:43.200
I strongly urge the Commission to reject
01:32:43.200 --> 01:32:47.090
the proposed decision and make solar more affordable,
01:32:47.090 --> 01:32:49.960
not less affordable for renters like myself.
01:32:49.960 --> 01:32:52.630
So we too can contribute to a clean
01:32:52.630 --> 01:32:54.660
and sustainable energy grid.
01:32:54.660 --> 01:32:57.810
This move is the opposite of climate action.
01:32:57.810 --> 01:33:01.730
It would pull the rug out from under clean businesses
01:33:01.730 --> 01:33:05.030
and existing solar infrastructure
01:33:05.030 --> 01:33:09.463
and cause us to rely on finite energy sources.
01:33:10.920 --> 01:33:14.800
This move would be the opposite of a just transition
01:33:14.800 --> 01:33:18.400
and you would be signing off on assured climate disaster.
01:33:18.400 --> 01:33:21.450
Please do the right thing and give Californian
01:33:21.450 --> 01:33:24.093
a sustainable future instead.
01:33:26.440 --> 01:33:27.390
Thank you.
01:33:27.390 --> 01:33:29.063
Operator next caller, please.
01:33:32.930 --> 01:33:34.850
Our next caller, is Thereser Chestmore.
01:33:34.850 --> 01:33:35.770
You may go ahead
01:33:43.470 --> 01:33:44.520
Again. Thereser Chestmore.
01:33:44.520 --> 01:33:45.410
Your line is open.
01:33:45.410 --> 01:33:46.910
Please check your mute button.
01:33:57.530 --> 01:33:59.510
And shall we go to the next caller?
01:33:59.510 --> 01:34:00.343
Yes, please.
01:34:00.343 --> 01:34:01.253
Thank you operator.
01:34:02.246 --> 01:34:03.978
Our next caller is Ryan Christensen.
01:34:03.978 --> 01:34:05.705
You may go ahead.
01:34:05.705 --> 01:34:07.050
[Ryan Christensen] Hi, my name's Ryan Christensen
01:34:07.050 --> 01:34:10.370
I'm marketing director at Renew Solar in Hanford.
01:34:10.370 --> 01:34:13.610
We serve a four county footprint and the NEM three proposal.
01:34:13.610 --> 01:34:15.453
Would've a terrible impact on our company
01:34:15.453 --> 01:34:17.680
and the communities that we serve.
01:34:17.680 --> 01:34:19.790
Over the last 15 years, renewable solar
01:34:19.790 --> 01:34:22.370
has returned hundreds of thousands of dollars
01:34:22.370 --> 01:34:23.770
to our communities.
01:34:23.770 --> 01:34:26.570
If this passes we won't be able to continue that support
01:34:26.570 --> 01:34:29.030
we give to at risk youth and recovery programs,
01:34:29.030 --> 01:34:31.170
law enforcement, local schools,
01:34:31.170 --> 01:34:32.780
and community centers, student health,
01:34:32.780 --> 01:34:37.200
and or student leadership programs and health organizations.
01:34:37.200 --> 01:34:39.640
We employ recovery addicts and former inmates
01:34:39.640 --> 01:34:42.240
who need a second chance and they might
01:34:42.240 --> 01:34:44.090
not otherwise get those.
01:34:44.090 --> 01:34:47.311
This proposal will reduce us opportunities for these folks
01:34:47.311 --> 01:34:50.810
to reenter our communities and become productive members.
01:34:50.810 --> 01:34:53.100
We counted a privilege and responsibility
01:34:53.100 --> 01:34:54.850
to support our communities.
01:34:54.850 --> 01:34:57.610
This proposal won't just harm our business.
01:34:57.610 --> 01:34:59.200
It'll harm our communities.
01:34:59.200 --> 01:35:02.130
We encourage you to reject this version and write a proposal
01:35:02.130 --> 01:35:05.300
that benefits all California constituents,
01:35:05.300 --> 01:35:06.760
not just the utilities.
01:35:06.760 --> 01:35:07.693
Thanks much.
01:35:08.820 --> 01:35:09.990
Thank you.
01:35:09.990 --> 01:35:11.600
And I would like to let everyone know
01:35:11.600 --> 01:35:15.640
that we will be taking a 15 minute break at 4:00 PM.
01:35:15.640 --> 01:35:17.920
We'll take a few more callers, before four,
01:35:17.920 --> 01:35:20.530
and then start a 15 minute break.
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Operator, please call the next...
01:35:22.440 --> 01:35:24.333
Please announce the next caller.
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Our next caller is Caroline leaving.
01:35:28.670 --> 01:35:29.520
You may go ahead.
01:35:32.870 --> 01:35:34.630
Hi, my name is Caroline leaving
01:35:34.630 --> 01:35:36.940
and I'm in Santa Cruz, California.
01:35:36.940 --> 01:35:39.730
Eight years ago, we invested in the solar system,
01:35:39.730 --> 01:35:41.890
installed on the roof of our home.
01:35:41.890 --> 01:35:45.840
We feel good helping out by reducing our dependency
01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:48.880
on fossil fuels and helping the environment
01:35:48.880 --> 01:35:50.330
at the same time,
01:35:50.330 --> 01:35:53.740
we also feel good helping to produce good clean,
01:35:53.740 --> 01:35:56.970
renewable energy that can be shared with our neighbors.
01:35:56.970 --> 01:36:00.130
Now PG&E wants to penalizes for are doing this
01:36:02.125 --> 01:36:04.240
by charging us a huge tax each month
01:36:04.240 --> 01:36:06.710
for producing free electricity for everybody
01:36:06.710 --> 01:36:08.560
to use through the grid.
01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:12.400
I can't believe that Governor Newsome would support
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such an outrageous assault on homeowners
01:36:16.170 --> 01:36:19.410
that are using our rooftops to create clean, renewable,
01:36:19.410 --> 01:36:23.670
energy for everyone to use instead of encouraging PG&E
01:36:23.670 --> 01:36:26.270
to start investing and supporting others
01:36:26.270 --> 01:36:28.220
to do the same thing.
01:36:28.220 --> 01:36:29.363
Thank you very much.
01:36:30.470 --> 01:36:31.720
Thank you, operator.
01:36:31.720 --> 01:36:32.743
Next caller, please.
01:36:34.600 --> 01:36:36.660
Our next caller is Nicholas SandMom.
01:36:36.660 --> 01:36:37.510
You may go ahead.
01:36:43.168 --> 01:36:45.483
[Nicholas SandMom] Hi, thank you for hearing me
01:36:45.483 --> 01:36:49.020
I'm president's Reynolds and Commission.
01:36:49.020 --> 01:36:52.170
I work in San Francisco for an independent
01:36:52.170 --> 01:36:53.800
solar company called Luminol.
01:36:53.800 --> 01:36:58.610
We're about 45 people and I got into solar to do my part
01:36:58.610 --> 01:37:00.793
to combat climate change.
01:37:01.920 --> 01:37:06.220
This proposed decision is strongly in opposition
01:37:06.220 --> 01:37:08.627
of what our company's designs do.
01:37:08.627 --> 01:37:12.190
And I strongly oppose the decision as written.
01:37:12.190 --> 01:37:14.300
I take care of my father financially,
01:37:14.300 --> 01:37:16.300
I have a good paying solar job.
01:37:16.300 --> 01:37:19.410
And this job will likely not be in existence
01:37:19.410 --> 01:37:21.540
if the proposed decision goes forward.
01:37:21.540 --> 01:37:24.990
As stated, the bullet points in the proposed decision.
01:37:24.990 --> 01:37:27.740
Number one states that any changes to net metering
01:37:27.740 --> 01:37:29.920
must be done to allow for the sustainable growth
01:37:29.920 --> 01:37:33.020
of solar in the California market.
01:37:33.020 --> 01:37:35.060
From a practical example over the last year,
01:37:35.060 --> 01:37:38.520
I'm on the sales team and I've seen leads and sold systems
01:37:38.520 --> 01:37:40.260
drop precipitously.
01:37:40.260 --> 01:37:43.150
And since the proposed decision was released early January,
01:37:43.150 --> 01:37:44.880
we've sold practically no system.
01:37:44.880 --> 01:37:48.660
So, it is clearly not going to work for Californians.
01:37:48.660 --> 01:37:51.550
Despite what the bogus reports from the utilities say,
01:37:51.550 --> 01:37:53.950
thank you so much (alarm ringing) for your consideration.
01:37:53.950 --> 01:37:55.546
Please reject this decision.
01:37:55.546 --> 01:37:56.427
Thank you.
01:37:56.427 --> 01:37:58.420
Thank you, operator.
01:37:58.420 --> 01:37:59.423
Next caller, please.
01:38:00.900 --> 01:38:02.940
Our next caller is Jill Easterday.
01:38:02.940 --> 01:38:03.793
You may go ahead.
01:38:05.620 --> 01:38:07.270
Hello everyone.
01:38:07.270 --> 01:38:10.640
My name is Jill Easterday and my grandma Dolores Davis,
01:38:10.640 --> 01:38:13.880
who's 89 years old, wanted to talk but then she got tired.
01:38:13.880 --> 01:38:16.060
So she needs to go take a nap.
01:38:16.060 --> 01:38:19.490
We ask that solars stay affordable for everyone
01:38:19.490 --> 01:38:21.420
like the speakers before us have stated
01:38:21.420 --> 01:38:23.660
solar power is good California residents,
01:38:23.660 --> 01:38:26.700
including my boyfriend's parents so have rooftop solar.
01:38:26.700 --> 01:38:28.760
It will benefit California's businesses
01:38:28.760 --> 01:38:30.860
like Tiger where my brother works
01:38:30.860 --> 01:38:32.870
and it will benefit the planet on which we live
01:38:32.870 --> 01:38:35.450
and which the next generations will inherit from us,
01:38:35.450 --> 01:38:38.540
which include my five nephews and one niece.
01:38:38.540 --> 01:38:41.680
We ask that the proposed net metering change be rejected.
01:38:41.680 --> 01:38:42.513
Thank you.
01:38:43.730 --> 01:38:44.820
Thank you, operator.
01:38:44.820 --> 01:38:45.973
Next caller, please.
01:38:48.160 --> 01:38:49.910
Our next caller is Scott WeCh.
01:38:49.910 --> 01:38:50.763
You may go ahead.
01:38:53.870 --> 01:38:55.310
Good afternoon, president Reynolds
01:38:55.310 --> 01:38:57.423
and Commissioners, one moment, please.
01:39:03.740 --> 01:39:05.770
This is actually Kyle Joaquin speaking
01:39:05.770 --> 01:39:08.280
on behalf of Scott WeCh representing a 100,000
01:39:08.280 --> 01:39:11.070
members of the state association of electrical workers.
01:39:11.070 --> 01:39:13.990
Additionally, the 55,000 members comprising
01:39:13.990 --> 01:39:16.800
the coalition of California utility employees.
01:39:16.800 --> 01:39:18.220
We would like to first and foremost
01:39:18.220 --> 01:39:20.830
acknowledge the Commission for their time and effort
01:39:20.830 --> 01:39:22.670
regarding the proposed decision.
01:39:22.670 --> 01:39:25.570
Originally we had scheduled hundreds of callers for today,
01:39:25.570 --> 01:39:26.890
but when the agenda changed,
01:39:26.890 --> 01:39:29.480
we canceled in deference to the Commission's time
01:39:29.480 --> 01:39:31.340
and their very demanding schedule.
01:39:31.340 --> 01:39:33.950
With that mentioned, I have two brief comments.
01:39:33.950 --> 01:39:38.950
First, the NEM cost shift will approach $8 billion by 2030,
01:39:39.110 --> 01:39:41.280
which is simply unsustainable.
01:39:41.280 --> 01:39:43.500
And that reality cannot be omitted.
01:39:43.500 --> 01:39:46.740
The state cannot continue to pay billions of dollars
01:39:46.740 --> 01:39:49.420
annually for diminishing resource.
01:39:49.420 --> 01:39:52.910
Those monies could be better directed to expand the state's
01:39:52.910 --> 01:39:56.602
energy portfolio while providing green job opportunities
01:39:56.602 --> 01:40:00.600
and access to renewable energy resources.
01:40:00.600 --> 01:40:03.672
Secondly, the opposition is fond on sighting,
01:40:03.672 --> 01:40:06.880
(alarm ringing) Arizona, Nevada, and Utah as models.
01:40:06.880 --> 01:40:09.292
Those current proposed decisions exceeds
01:40:09.292 --> 01:40:11.210
in the Aion states--
01:40:11.210 --> 01:40:12.572
Thank you.
01:40:12.572 --> 01:40:13.405
Thank you.
01:40:13.405 --> 01:40:14.600
Thank you, thank you very much.
01:40:14.600 --> 01:40:16.403
Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Jim bunch.
01:40:19.850 --> 01:40:20.763
You may go ahead.
01:40:22.300 --> 01:40:23.133
Thank you.
01:40:23.133 --> 01:40:25.763
Hi, this is Jim bunch, San Diego of California,
01:40:25.763 --> 01:40:27.710
I am husband of 20 years of proud
01:40:27.710 --> 01:40:29.370
dad of a high school student is right now
01:40:29.370 --> 01:40:31.690
learning about climate change in the deadly future
01:40:31.690 --> 01:40:33.170
that they're about to inherit.
01:40:33.170 --> 01:40:35.590
And I'm asking you to reject this proposal.
01:40:35.590 --> 01:40:37.960
I'm also chairman of the US Green Chamber of commerce,
01:40:37.960 --> 01:40:40.210
and I'm here representing my company that I co-founded
01:40:40.210 --> 01:40:41.520
eight years ago named Power,
01:40:41.520 --> 01:40:44.220
which is a public benefit coroperate of solar company.
01:40:44.220 --> 01:40:47.750
We have over 5,000 passionate sales reps in solar
01:40:47.750 --> 01:40:50.900
with 187 employees, 200 installation partners
01:40:50.900 --> 01:40:54.850
in 20 states and an army of tax paying homeowners
01:40:54.850 --> 01:40:56.870
who are saving thousands of dollars every year.
01:40:56.870 --> 01:40:59.500
But they're tired of being stuck with these never ending
01:40:59.500 --> 01:41:02.720
escalating costs of the utilities, just 48 hours ago
01:41:02.720 --> 01:41:04.280
was on the phone with SDG&E.
01:41:04.280 --> 01:41:06.380
They have another rate height coming into effect
01:41:06.380 --> 01:41:09.290
from 34 cents to 54 cents in the next few months.
01:41:09.290 --> 01:41:11.740
So let's work together, focus on three things
01:41:11.740 --> 01:41:14.460
number one more renewable and affordable energy
01:41:14.460 --> 01:41:15.770
for all households.
01:41:15.770 --> 01:41:18.770
Number two more jobs, at least no job destruction
01:41:18.770 --> 01:41:20.890
and number three decarbonization
01:41:20.890 --> 01:41:22.760
for all of humanity sakes.
01:41:22.760 --> 01:41:23.593
Thank you.
01:41:25.680 --> 01:41:27.993
Thank you, operator next caller please.
01:41:29.470 --> 01:41:31.510
Our next caller is Dennis Defas.
01:41:31.510 --> 01:41:32.360
You may go ahead.
01:41:34.600 --> 01:41:37.133
Hello, my name's Dennis Defas
01:41:37.133 --> 01:41:39.720
and I'm a homeowner in Cypress California.
01:41:39.720 --> 01:41:44.320
I retired in July, 2020 now living off of a fixed income.
01:41:44.320 --> 01:41:48.230
I convinced myself and my wife that if we purchased
01:41:48.230 --> 01:41:52.430
a solar and energy storage system from our savings,
01:41:52.430 --> 01:41:55.500
it would help us by first lowering our monthly
01:41:55.500 --> 01:41:57.390
expenses for the next 20 year.
01:41:57.390 --> 01:42:01.180
Second, keep us safe and from unplanned power outages
01:42:01.180 --> 01:42:03.970
and third help California be green.
01:42:03.970 --> 01:42:06.900
I received permission to operate my system
01:42:06.900 --> 01:42:09.000
in September, 2021.
01:42:09.000 --> 01:42:12.960
My carbon offset is 3.04 tons so far.
01:42:12.960 --> 01:42:17.740
Now I am forced to fight against any changes or any tax
01:42:17.740 --> 01:42:21.000
increases to my NEM 2.0 sold agreement
01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:23.030
because a deal is a deal.
01:42:23.030 --> 01:42:25.890
As California sold system owners,
01:42:25.890 --> 01:42:29.480
we cannot afford changes to our existing NEM agreements.
01:42:29.480 --> 01:42:33.490
We cannot afford to be charged new taxes of any kind,
01:42:33.490 --> 01:42:37.430
and we do not deserve to have our NEM's deals broken.
01:42:37.430 --> 01:42:39.410
So, please do the right thing.
01:42:39.410 --> 01:42:42.360
Stop hurting Californians like me and my family.
01:42:42.360 --> 01:42:43.193
(alarm ringing)
01:42:43.193 --> 01:42:47.300
Please, please totally reject the current NEM 3.0 proposal.
01:42:47.300 --> 01:42:48.909
Thank you.
01:42:48.909 --> 01:42:50.100
Thank you.
01:42:50.100 --> 01:42:52.730
We are now gonna be taking a 15 minute break
01:42:52.730 --> 01:42:53.580
before we break.
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I would like to remind all of our callers
01:42:55.890 --> 01:42:58.310
of the email address.
01:42:58.310 --> 01:43:00.180
If you are unable to stay on the line,
01:43:00.180 --> 01:43:03.280
you can send your comment by email.
01:43:03.280 --> 01:43:07.081
The email address is public dot advisor,
01:43:07.081 --> 01:43:12.081
ADVISOR@CPUC.ca.gov.
01:43:15.200 --> 01:43:16.033
Thank you.
01:43:16.033 --> 01:43:18.963
We will be breaking on a break until 4:15.
01:43:20.160 --> 01:43:20.993
Thank you all for standing
01:43:20.993 --> 01:43:22.733
by to these conferences resumed.
01:43:24.990 --> 01:43:27.370
President Reynolds you may proceed.
01:43:27.370 --> 01:43:28.260
Thank you.
01:43:28.260 --> 01:43:31.920
First, we need to establish a quorum with the clerk.
01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:33.093
Please call the role.
01:43:33.950 --> 01:43:35.000
Commissioner Houck?
01:43:36.469 --> 01:43:37.381
[Commissioner Houck] Here.
01:43:37.381 --> 01:43:39.355
Commissioner Shiroma?
01:43:39.355 --> 01:43:41.090
[Commissioner Shiroma] Present.
01:43:41.090 --> 01:43:42.524
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
01:43:42.524 --> 01:43:44.163
[Commissioner Rechtschaffen] I'm here.
01:43:44.163 --> 01:43:45.913
President Reynolds.
01:43:47.369 --> 01:43:48.760
[President Reynolds] Here.
01:43:48.760 --> 01:43:50.570
We have a quorum.
01:43:50.570 --> 01:43:53.740
We're now to resume the public comment portion
01:43:53.740 --> 01:43:55.130
of our meeting.
01:43:55.130 --> 01:43:58.173
Operator, Would you please call the next caller?
01:44:01.820 --> 01:44:03.750
Our next caller is Ruben Lee.
01:44:03.750 --> 01:44:04.600
You may go ahead.
01:44:06.510 --> 01:44:08.570
Hello, president Reynolds and Commissioners.
01:44:08.570 --> 01:44:11.840
So you're all super smart and you've heard all the facts,
01:44:11.840 --> 01:44:15.640
but I haven't heard much today about the impact on renters.
01:44:15.640 --> 01:44:17.430
I'm a solar employee.
01:44:17.430 --> 01:44:19.830
My mom still lives in the rent control apartment
01:44:19.830 --> 01:44:21.760
in San Francisco that I grew up in.
01:44:21.760 --> 01:44:24.820
And here's the way she sees this issue.
01:44:24.820 --> 01:44:28.084
Power companies are trying to charge people 60 bucks a month
01:44:28.084 --> 01:44:32.100
to put solar panels on their roof, plain and simple.
01:44:32.100 --> 01:44:34.480
That's like a gas charging you because
01:44:34.480 --> 01:44:37.663
you got an electric car and you don't buy their gas anymore.
01:44:38.720 --> 01:44:43.100
Only 6% of the state currently has solar on their roof.
01:44:43.100 --> 01:44:45.290
Most of those people are homeowners.
01:44:45.290 --> 01:44:47.490
So the power companies think aha!
01:44:47.490 --> 01:44:50.420
Now is the time to divide and conquer the voters.
01:44:50.420 --> 01:44:52.290
But with better public policy,
01:44:52.290 --> 01:44:54.910
renters could have solar right now.
01:44:54.910 --> 01:44:57.340
Virtual net metering is here.
01:44:57.340 --> 01:45:02.000
The only barrier is policy, economists Amod Faruki
01:45:02.000 --> 01:45:04.200
and others have clearly shown rooftop solar
01:45:04.200 --> 01:45:07.593
is actually cheaper for ratepayers, including my mom.
01:45:08.800 --> 01:45:10.840
So do the right thing please,
01:45:10.840 --> 01:45:14.230
and focus your efforts on expanding solar,
01:45:14.230 --> 01:45:16.840
low income people and renters.
01:45:16.840 --> 01:45:19.013
Thank you and sorry for being out of breath.
01:45:20.400 --> 01:45:21.500
Thank you.
01:45:21.500 --> 01:45:23.163
Operator, next caller please.
01:45:24.850 --> 01:45:27.210
Our next caller is Jerry WaTech.
01:45:27.210 --> 01:45:28.763
You may go ahead.
01:45:31.190 --> 01:45:32.300
Good afternoon Commissioners.
01:45:32.300 --> 01:45:33.521
My name's Jerry WaTech
01:45:33.521 --> 01:45:35.820
and I'm with the Public Power San Diego.
01:45:35.820 --> 01:45:38.800
A crew NEM three proposal before you places the burden
01:45:38.800 --> 01:45:41.420
of maintaining California's electrical grid on the backs
01:45:41.420 --> 01:45:43.130
of low and middle income people,
01:45:43.130 --> 01:45:46.240
homeowners and businesses who have already spent
01:45:46.240 --> 01:45:48.790
tens of thousands of dollars installing rooftop solar
01:45:48.790 --> 01:45:50.410
on their homes and buildings,
01:45:50.410 --> 01:45:53.000
but the goal of reducing their dependence on fossil fuel
01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:55.580
and helping to combat the present climate emergency
01:45:56.470 --> 01:45:58.800
in instead consider reducing the guaranteed
01:45:58.800 --> 01:46:02.640
10% profit margin of the IOU monopolies.
01:46:02.640 --> 01:46:04.810
IOU customers in California pay the highest
01:46:04.810 --> 01:46:07.150
utility rates in the continental US
01:46:07.150 --> 01:46:09.390
while the utilities profit...
01:46:09.390 --> 01:46:13.630
While the utilities profits increase eight percent annually.
01:46:13.630 --> 01:46:16.830
In San Diego, where I live SUGE makes million dollars
01:46:16.830 --> 01:46:18.400
a day in net profits.
01:46:18.400 --> 01:46:20.570
While the rate payers here are charged the highest rates
01:46:20.570 --> 01:46:23.550
in the state, please eliminate the regressive
01:46:23.550 --> 01:46:26.180
grid access tax on solar, rooftop solar
01:46:26.180 --> 01:46:28.800
in the current NEM proposal and side with the people
01:46:28.800 --> 01:46:30.770
of California and our planet.
01:46:30.770 --> 01:46:31.603
Thanks so much.
01:46:33.090 --> 01:46:34.330
Thank you, operator.
01:46:34.330 --> 01:46:35.453
Next caller, please.
01:46:39.250 --> 01:46:43.003
Our next is Alan Truex, you may go ahead.
01:46:48.710 --> 01:46:49.543
Yep.
01:46:49.543 --> 01:46:50.376
Hey, thank you very much.
01:46:50.376 --> 01:46:51.870
This is the first time I haven't had to compete
01:46:51.870 --> 01:46:53.034
with solar companies as we all await to speak
01:46:53.034 --> 01:46:57.520
on the same topic that we all agree on.
01:46:57.520 --> 01:46:59.219
Commissioners my name's Alan Truex the Sales Director
01:46:59.219 --> 01:47:01.930
of Vibe Solar at a Lancaster, California.
01:47:01.930 --> 01:47:04.730
We've been in business for 20 years and our veteran owned
01:47:04.730 --> 01:47:06.930
we've even created in a nonprofit organization
01:47:06.930 --> 01:47:09.840
called buy before to aim, to assist our community.
01:47:09.840 --> 01:47:13.210
It was to my understanding years ago that the solar industry
01:47:13.210 --> 01:47:16.060
would be sustainable due to the efforts of California
01:47:16.060 --> 01:47:18.780
to thrive in renewable energy.
01:47:18.780 --> 01:47:21.760
NEM 3.0 will affect my family, my children,
01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:23.760
and the family of my employees.
01:47:23.760 --> 01:47:26.080
NEM 3.0 will burden the environmental future
01:47:26.080 --> 01:47:28.890
we have pushed for for years will not be a clean energy
01:47:28.890 --> 01:47:32.260
state by 2050 if this program continues in place,
01:47:32.260 --> 01:47:34.740
our company will lose thousands or hundreds of thousands
01:47:34.740 --> 01:47:36.840
of dollars for this proposal and effect.
01:47:36.840 --> 01:47:39.220
Solar will no longer be a benefit to homeowners.
01:47:39.220 --> 01:47:41.040
We will have to consider moving our business to a different
01:47:41.040 --> 01:47:43.070
state than welcome solar with open arms,
01:47:43.070 --> 01:47:44.490
please reject this proposal to keep
01:47:44.490 --> 01:47:46.110
solar companies in business.
01:47:46.110 --> 01:47:48.770
California's one of the best states in the United States.
01:47:48.770 --> 01:47:51.000
Let's not impact our reputation.
01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:53.673
Thank you for your patience as we express our concerns.
01:47:54.920 --> 01:47:55.837
Thank you, operator.
01:47:55.837 --> 01:47:57.383
Next caller, please.
01:48:00.510 --> 01:48:02.890
Our next caller is Katherine Boberg.
01:48:02.890 --> 01:48:03.740
You may go ahead.
01:48:10.397 --> 01:48:11.440
[Katherine Boberg] Katherine Boberg
01:48:11.440 --> 01:48:14.250
CEO, of Center-fied Power California manufacturers,
01:48:14.250 --> 01:48:18.560
state safe energy storage systems for 11 years in 2020,
01:48:18.560 --> 01:48:20.860
California had approximately 9,800 fires
01:48:20.860 --> 01:48:22.830
with devastating losses.
01:48:22.830 --> 01:48:24.020
Some of the worst fires have been
01:48:24.020 --> 01:48:26.220
caused by utility infrastructure.
01:48:26.220 --> 01:48:30.040
Over 80 years old, the result of years of utility negligence
01:48:30.040 --> 01:48:32.000
to invest in their own infrastructure
01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:35.610
and meet their mandates, deliver safe, reliable power,
01:48:35.610 --> 01:48:37.350
Residents are paying for installing
01:48:37.350 --> 01:48:39.960
distributed clean generation infrastructure
01:48:39.960 --> 01:48:43.230
because the utilities are not, do not penalize citizens
01:48:43.230 --> 01:48:46.960
that are solving the environmental and economic disaster
01:48:46.960 --> 01:48:50.200
that you have created through decades of negligence.
01:48:50.200 --> 01:48:53.350
California utilities, and the CPUC need to reduce
01:48:53.350 --> 01:48:56.210
the increasing CO2 and methane levels that are driving
01:48:56.210 --> 01:48:59.680
climate change, drought, heat, wind, and fires.
01:48:59.680 --> 01:49:03.347
With rooftop solar generation achieves the utilities
01:49:03.347 --> 01:49:08.180
and CPUC need to incentivize not tax residents
01:49:08.180 --> 01:49:10.440
that are using their hard earned dollars
01:49:10.440 --> 01:49:13.060
to install distributed, clean solar generation
01:49:13.060 --> 01:49:14.840
and batteries in their homes,
01:49:14.840 --> 01:49:17.646
businesses and communities that create a resilient,
01:49:17.646 --> 01:49:19.860
(alarm ringing) safe, and prosperous economy.
01:49:19.860 --> 01:49:23.270
It is criminal to charge a solar tax or residents
01:49:23.270 --> 01:49:26.150
who are paying for the infrastructure and technology
01:49:26.150 --> 01:49:27.670
that solves for these issues--
01:49:27.670 --> 01:49:28.710
Thank you--
01:49:28.710 --> 01:49:29.543
[Katherine Boberg] Resilience, clean energy
01:49:29.543 --> 01:49:30.860
and CO2 reduction.
01:49:30.860 --> 01:49:31.693
Thank you.
01:49:31.693 --> 01:49:33.180
Thank you for your comments.
01:49:34.150 --> 01:49:35.753
Operator, next caller please.
01:49:36.800 --> 01:49:38.940
Our next call is Christopher Ward.
01:49:38.940 --> 01:49:39.773
May go ahead.
01:49:43.623 --> 01:49:44.810
[Christopher Ward] Under NEM three.
01:49:44.810 --> 01:49:48.337
My cost savings for solar would be reduced by 80%.
01:49:48.337 --> 01:49:50.930
The slow level of cost savings would end the financial
01:49:50.930 --> 01:49:54.180
benefit of future residential solar installations.
01:49:54.180 --> 01:49:57.610
The biggest cost impact is from instantaneous metering,
01:49:57.610 --> 01:50:01.230
which ignores the diversity benefits of 1.3 million
01:50:01.230 --> 01:50:03.830
California solar installations.
01:50:03.830 --> 01:50:07.380
If all solar residences were connected to a single meter,
01:50:07.380 --> 01:50:09.670
hourly metering data would substantially match
01:50:09.670 --> 01:50:11.740
instantaneous metering data.
01:50:11.740 --> 01:50:14.630
Consequently hourly metering for residential
01:50:14.630 --> 01:50:15.913
solar should continue.
01:50:16.760 --> 01:50:19.220
The fixed grid participation fee is substantial
01:50:19.220 --> 01:50:21.840
and no other residential electricity users
01:50:21.840 --> 01:50:25.060
are subject to such a fee in its present form.
01:50:25.060 --> 01:50:27.890
The grid participation fee should be rejected
01:50:27.890 --> 01:50:30.950
using electricity export rate that is less than
01:50:30.950 --> 01:50:33.640
the tariff generation rate is unfair and inconsistent
01:50:33.640 --> 01:50:36.500
with charging the full tariff rate for electricity use.
01:50:36.500 --> 01:50:39.563
It is unfair to impose additional cost risk
01:50:39.563 --> 01:50:42.470
on current solar customers by shortening
01:50:42.470 --> 01:50:44.930
the committed any end term to 15 years.
01:50:44.930 --> 01:50:45.763
Thank you.
01:50:47.170 --> 01:50:48.003
Thank you.
01:50:48.003 --> 01:50:50.178
Operate next caller, please.
01:50:50.178 --> 01:50:53.400
(audience laughing)
01:50:53.400 --> 01:50:56.000
Our next caller is Weston McGill.
01:50:56.000 --> 01:50:56.993
You may go ahead.
01:50:59.492 --> 01:51:01.426
That me that's me.
01:51:01.426 --> 01:51:03.850
Yes, we can hear you.
01:51:03.850 --> 01:51:05.530
Hello.
01:51:05.530 --> 01:51:06.670
Hi.
01:51:06.670 --> 01:51:08.540
Yeah, my name is Rustin McGill.
01:51:08.540 --> 01:51:10.133
It's my 12th year in energy.
01:51:11.040 --> 01:51:13.140
33 years old, California native installed
01:51:13.140 --> 01:51:15.090
my own solar system.
01:51:15.090 --> 01:51:17.350
I really just hope everybody actually reads
01:51:17.350 --> 01:51:20.290
the text and then applies it to how a system
01:51:20.290 --> 01:51:22.590
logically works and realize that it it's just
01:51:24.097 --> 01:51:25.200
gonna kill solar for everybody.
01:51:25.200 --> 01:51:27.403
We've been talking about 55,000 jobs.
01:51:28.300 --> 01:51:30.910
I think it's in the neighborhood of a hundred thousand jobs
01:51:30.910 --> 01:51:32.500
because I'm not talking about today's jobs.
01:51:32.500 --> 01:51:33.710
I'm talking about tomorrow's jobs,
01:51:33.710 --> 01:51:35.510
jobs that don't even exist yet.
01:51:35.510 --> 01:51:37.476
When I got into solar my job didn't even exist yet
01:51:37.476 --> 01:51:38.713
that exists today.
01:51:39.700 --> 01:51:41.170
So, I want you to think about that.
01:51:41.170 --> 01:51:43.240
I want you to think about what it means for the future,
01:51:43.240 --> 01:51:45.070
not for us today, as we make these decisions,
01:51:45.070 --> 01:51:47.030
but people 20 years from now,
01:51:47.030 --> 01:51:49.370
my children who will be adults and have financial
01:51:49.370 --> 01:51:53.920
and fiscal responsibility to be into NEM 15,
01:51:53.920 --> 01:51:57.440
where rates for an electric car now far exceed
01:51:57.440 --> 01:51:58.570
gas costs today.
01:51:58.570 --> 01:52:02.960
So, just think about more than what we're looking at today.
01:52:02.960 --> 01:52:04.680
The policy makes sense.
01:52:04.680 --> 01:52:08.820
It does need some changes, but it's really one sided.
01:52:08.820 --> 01:52:10.790
Thank you for your time.
01:52:10.790 --> 01:52:11.732
Thank you.
01:52:11.732 --> 01:52:13.182
Operator, next caller please.
01:52:16.338 --> 01:52:18.230
Our next caller is Lawrence Chapman.
01:52:18.230 --> 01:52:19.080
You may go ahead.
01:52:21.530 --> 01:52:24.350
[Lawrence Chapman] Yes, I'm a San Diego homeowner.
01:52:24.350 --> 01:52:28.570
I'm retired on a fixed pension and I installed solar
01:52:28.570 --> 01:52:32.410
12 years ago at a cost of $50,000.
01:52:32.410 --> 01:52:36.770
So I would not face increasing utility costs on retirement
01:52:36.770 --> 01:52:40.850
SDG&E has since then added a fixed monthly charge
01:52:40.850 --> 01:52:42.320
and moved the time window.
01:52:42.320 --> 01:52:45.100
So, I do not get full credit for my production
01:52:45.100 --> 01:52:46.780
during the day.
01:52:46.780 --> 01:52:50.440
I'm now seeing a bill of $2,000 a year.
01:52:50.440 --> 01:52:51.880
Whereas my previous bill,
01:52:51.880 --> 01:52:55.170
when I first installed the system was zero.
01:52:55.170 --> 01:52:58.530
If you approve 3.0, I will be completely removed
01:52:58.530 --> 01:53:01.170
from NEM in three more years.
01:53:01.170 --> 01:53:04.850
Instead of the full 20 years I was promised,
01:53:04.850 --> 01:53:08.730
allowing the utilities to renege on their promise to me
01:53:08.730 --> 01:53:11.600
is outrageous and un-American and I hope
01:53:11.600 --> 01:53:12.880
you will prevent it.
01:53:12.880 --> 01:53:13.713
Thank you.
01:53:14.560 --> 01:53:15.393
Thank you.
01:53:15.393 --> 01:53:16.813
Operator, next caller please.
01:53:18.300 --> 01:53:20.520
Our next caller is Courtney Corda.
01:53:20.520 --> 01:53:21.370
You may go ahead.
01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:24.660
Hi, good afternoon.
01:53:24.660 --> 01:53:27.920
I'm the co-owner of Corda solar in Danville.
01:53:27.920 --> 01:53:29.150
I'm just a little guy.
01:53:29.150 --> 01:53:31.940
I'm not a powerful union lobbyist and I don't have
01:53:31.940 --> 01:53:34.670
an assistant who could wait on hold on my behalf
01:53:34.670 --> 01:53:35.950
for nearly seven hours.
01:53:35.950 --> 01:53:37.550
I've done that all myself.
01:53:37.550 --> 01:53:38.760
Today's my birthday.
01:53:38.760 --> 01:53:41.180
So, while I have been on hold for seven hours
01:53:41.180 --> 01:53:44.630
for the chance to urge the CPUC to reject this horrible
01:53:44.630 --> 01:53:47.310
NEM three plan, I've missed birthday calls
01:53:47.310 --> 01:53:49.300
from my family and my friends.
01:53:49.300 --> 01:53:51.470
I can't speak for thousands of union members,
01:53:51.470 --> 01:53:53.690
but I can speak for my four installers
01:53:53.690 --> 01:53:56.970
who have helped hundreds of people in Contra Costa county
01:53:56.970 --> 01:54:01.310
go solar since 2007, please don't put us outta work.
01:54:01.310 --> 01:54:03.930
I'm not just worried about my company and my workers.
01:54:03.930 --> 01:54:06.680
I'm worried We've all lost sight of the big picture.
01:54:06.680 --> 01:54:09.870
Our state needs more solar, more storage
01:54:09.870 --> 01:54:12.630
and more innovation to reach our clean energy goals.
01:54:12.630 --> 01:54:17.630
We don't need more Cow toing to the utilities.
01:54:17.790 --> 01:54:20.140
Let's not make a dramatic and risky change
01:54:20.140 --> 01:54:21.830
to a working NEM policy.
01:54:21.830 --> 01:54:24.750
Please reject it, make it fairer and more gradual
01:54:24.750 --> 01:54:26.900
with no per kilowat solar tax.
01:54:26.900 --> 01:54:29.900
Please don't kill 60,000 solar jobs right now.
01:54:29.900 --> 01:54:32.777
Let ordinary Californians keep investing in solar.
01:54:32.777 --> 01:54:34.194
These four profits.
(alarm ringing)
01:54:34.194 --> 01:54:36.330
Thank you.
01:54:36.330 --> 01:54:37.163
Thank you.
01:54:37.163 --> 01:54:38.510
Operator, next caller please.
01:54:41.290 --> 01:54:42.970
Our next caller is Robert Hunt.
01:54:42.970 --> 01:54:43.803
You may go ahead
01:54:53.420 --> 01:54:54.370
Again, Robert Hunt.
01:54:54.370 --> 01:54:55.270
Your line is open.
01:54:55.270 --> 01:54:56.770
Please check your mute button.
01:55:02.240 --> 01:55:03.693
Mr. Hunt, please go ahead.
01:55:07.910 --> 01:55:09.800
Operator, let's move to the next caller.
01:55:09.800 --> 01:55:10.633
Thank you.
01:55:12.360 --> 01:55:15.550
Our next caller is Milton Mogada.
01:55:15.550 --> 01:55:16.403
You may go ahead.
01:55:17.346 --> 01:55:19.670
Mogada, a good afternoon everybody
01:55:19.670 --> 01:55:22.447
with my two KW system, I'll end up paying PG&E
01:55:22.447 --> 01:55:27.410
you need to be connected feeding the grid for PG&E.
01:55:27.410 --> 01:55:28.950
My name is Milton Mogada and I worked
01:55:28.950 --> 01:55:31.260
for roof tech in Summerville.
01:55:31.260 --> 01:55:35.590
I'm in the solar field since 1997, being that the CEC,
01:55:35.590 --> 01:55:38.320
the California Energy Commission by down program
01:55:38.320 --> 01:55:41.750
to incentivize solar PV began in 1998.
01:55:41.750 --> 01:55:45.620
So, I've been mostly involved in training this workforce.
01:55:45.620 --> 01:55:48.380
So on behalf of myself and all the solar contractors
01:55:48.380 --> 01:55:50.220
and installers of California,
01:55:50.220 --> 01:55:53.050
you must reject the current NEM proposal.
01:55:53.050 --> 01:55:56.560
Search proposal will negatively affect them
01:55:56.560 --> 01:55:58.900
and their families livelihood.
01:55:58.900 --> 01:56:01.220
You also must reject the current NEM three proposal
01:56:01.220 --> 01:56:03.920
in order to protect our consumers
01:56:03.920 --> 01:56:07.310
and make a positive impact on climate change.
01:56:07.310 --> 01:56:08.960
Thank you for your consideration.
01:56:09.860 --> 01:56:10.813
Thank you, operator.
01:56:10.813 --> 01:56:12.363
Next caller, please.
01:56:14.300 --> 01:56:16.150
Our next caller is Michael Zimerman.
01:56:16.150 --> 01:56:17.073
You may go ahead.
01:56:21.041 --> 01:56:22.932
[Michael Zimerman] I too excited,
01:56:22.932 --> 01:56:27.932
While NEM two is not fair beyond that punitive
01:56:29.148 --> 01:56:31.710
in the industry and near term.
01:56:31.710 --> 01:56:34.277
Mr. Zimerman, we're having trouble hearing you.
01:56:40.842 --> 01:56:42.040
[Michael Zimerman] Can you hear.
01:56:42.040 --> 01:56:43.412
That's better.
01:56:43.412 --> 01:56:47.645
[Michael Zimerman] (indistinct)
01:56:47.645 --> 01:56:49.080
Acknowledging that we're on them too is not fair.
01:56:49.080 --> 01:56:50.810
The replacement is beyond unfair.
01:56:50.810 --> 01:56:54.040
It's punitive killing the industry in the near term,
01:56:54.040 --> 01:56:57.420
in the midterm, able to exacerbate shrinking rate bases
01:56:57.420 --> 01:56:59.820
as off grid for the determined going off grid
01:56:59.820 --> 01:57:02.920
is an option today while politics isn't the purview
01:57:02.920 --> 01:57:05.680
of this and the energy consumer has collected memory.
01:57:05.680 --> 01:57:07.400
And if past is written, I can assure you
01:57:07.400 --> 01:57:08.450
this won't be button.
01:57:10.106 --> 01:57:12.660
The idea that dually executed NEM one and two agreements
01:57:12.660 --> 01:57:15.740
will be put and retroactively changed to 15 years
01:57:15.740 --> 01:57:18.680
is simply the most ill-conceived policy I've encountered
01:57:18.680 --> 01:57:21.320
in over 12 years of talking that such nonsense
01:57:21.320 --> 01:57:24.810
made into this California needs to encourage
01:57:24.810 --> 01:57:26.480
investments and economic activity.
01:57:26.480 --> 01:57:28.690
But if regulators get in the habit of breaching
01:57:28.690 --> 01:57:30.600
the market principles,(alarm ringing)
01:57:30.600 --> 01:57:33.160
in my opinion, norms of the rule of law
01:57:33.160 --> 01:57:36.270
any chilling effects on inward investments or even--
01:57:36.270 --> 01:57:37.103
Thank you.
01:57:38.133 --> 01:57:38.966
(indistinct)
[Michael Zimerman]
01:57:38.966 --> 01:57:41.847
Flood cap, we completely--(indistinct)
01:57:43.246 --> 01:57:44.079
Thank you for your comment.
01:57:44.079 --> 01:57:44.912
[Michael Zimerman] Thank you.
01:57:44.912 --> 01:57:45.745
Thank you.
01:57:45.745 --> 01:57:46.578
We do need to move on.
01:57:46.578 --> 01:57:47.411
Thank you for your comments.
01:57:47.411 --> 01:57:48.583
Operator next caller, please.
01:57:50.180 --> 01:57:52.030
Our next caller is Karen Perkin.
01:57:52.030 --> 01:57:52.880
You may go ahead.
01:57:54.460 --> 01:57:55.300
Hi, (clearing throat)
01:57:55.300 --> 01:57:58.110
I'm a retired teacher on a fixed income.
01:57:58.110 --> 01:58:00.280
I'm not in the solar industry
01:58:00.280 --> 01:58:03.270
and I don't have solar panels on my house,
01:58:03.270 --> 01:58:05.920
but I would assume I'm speaking for millions
01:58:05.920 --> 01:58:07.960
and millions who can't take seven hours out
01:58:07.960 --> 01:58:11.730
on a Thursday to talk with you.
01:58:11.730 --> 01:58:16.730
And NEM three would make rooftop solar unaffordable for me,
01:58:16.760 --> 01:58:18.783
and I'm assuming millions of others,
01:58:20.470 --> 01:58:23.000
PG&E shouldn't even exist.
01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:24.660
It's a monopoly.
01:58:24.660 --> 01:58:26.570
It's for profit.
01:58:26.570 --> 01:58:30.290
And you know, energy is a life and death matter,
01:58:30.290 --> 01:58:33.080
just like fire are life and death matter.
01:58:33.080 --> 01:58:37.110
We don't have a for-profit fire department to go around,
01:58:37.110 --> 01:58:41.680
putting out certain people's fires and not others.
01:58:41.680 --> 01:58:44.410
We should be supplying energy to people
01:58:44.410 --> 01:58:46.170
at an affordable rate,
01:58:46.170 --> 01:58:49.540
and certainly should not be making solar less affordable
01:58:49.540 --> 01:58:54.270
because climate the climate crisis is an emergency.
01:58:54.270 --> 01:58:56.163
I'm a member of fossil fuels,
01:58:57.480 --> 01:59:00.870
Fossil Fuel Free California Members are teachers
01:59:00.870 --> 01:59:04.270
a group that's trying to get our pensions divested
01:59:04.270 --> 01:59:06.450
from fossil fuels.
(alarm ringing)
01:59:06.450 --> 01:59:10.330
Also support many other environmental organizations
01:59:10.330 --> 01:59:11.823
that are not for this.
01:59:12.720 --> 01:59:16.000
And they want to see clean energy,
01:59:16.000 --> 01:59:17.670
not dirty energy.
01:59:17.670 --> 01:59:19.910
That's poisoning communities of color
01:59:19.910 --> 01:59:22.940
and poor neighborhood in our area.
01:59:22.940 --> 01:59:24.950
Thank you very much.
01:59:24.950 --> 01:59:25.990
Thank you, operator.
01:59:25.990 --> 01:59:27.103
Next caller, please.
01:59:28.640 --> 01:59:30.730
Our next caller is Andy McIlroy.
01:59:30.730 --> 01:59:31.580
You may go ahead.
01:59:34.120 --> 01:59:36.080
Hey, my name is Andy McIlroy.
01:59:36.080 --> 01:59:38.520
I work for sunlight financial.
01:59:38.520 --> 01:59:40.497
I've been in the solar industry for nine years
01:59:40.497 --> 01:59:42.440
and I live in Berkeley.
01:59:42.440 --> 01:59:44.790
I got on this call at nine o'clock
01:59:44.790 --> 01:59:47.210
thinking I would be slick and get in early in the queue,
01:59:47.210 --> 01:59:48.840
but I got kicked off a few times.
01:59:48.840 --> 01:59:51.210
And honestly, I couldn't be happier
01:59:51.210 --> 01:59:52.620
that it took this long to get on.
01:59:52.620 --> 01:59:56.100
'Cause there's so many awesome people making killer points
01:59:56.100 --> 02:00:00.470
and only like one or two people who are for the proposal
02:00:00.470 --> 02:00:02.600
and also happy birthday to the previous caller.
02:00:02.600 --> 02:00:05.833
So anyway, solar is much more than just a job for me.
02:00:05.833 --> 02:00:08.650
It's a career that I'm super proud of.
02:00:08.650 --> 02:00:09.483
It's green.
02:00:09.483 --> 02:00:10.316
It saves people money.
02:00:10.316 --> 02:00:12.937
It creates jobs, with this proposal
02:00:12.937 --> 02:00:14.770
it's like the utilities we found this clever,
02:00:14.770 --> 02:00:16.760
a totally dishonest way to pit ratepayers
02:00:16.760 --> 02:00:19.910
against each other while they benefit.
02:00:19.910 --> 02:00:23.140
It's gonna kill thousands of awesome solar jobs overnight,
02:00:23.140 --> 02:00:25.310
and homeowners will lose the valuable option
02:00:25.310 --> 02:00:26.960
of being able to go solar.
02:00:26.960 --> 02:00:28.270
And that just makes me really sad.
02:00:28.270 --> 02:00:30.360
So, rooftop solar is not the bad guy.
02:00:30.360 --> 02:00:32.410
Please reject the proposal entirely.
02:00:32.410 --> 02:00:35.460
Do not compromise on it, reject it entirely.
02:00:35.460 --> 02:00:36.293
Thank you.
02:00:37.933 --> 02:00:39.400
Thank you, operator.
02:00:39.400 --> 02:00:40.543
Next caller, please.
02:00:43.120 --> 02:00:45.010
Our next caller is Alex Feeder.
02:00:45.010 --> 02:00:45.860
You may go ahead.
02:00:47.320 --> 02:00:48.153
Good afternoon.
02:00:48.153 --> 02:00:49.510
My name is Alex Feeder.
02:00:49.510 --> 02:00:52.410
I've worked in the solar industry for 10 years.
02:00:52.410 --> 02:00:55.280
I work for sun green systems in Pasadena.
02:00:55.280 --> 02:00:58.370
We need more solar and storage to curb the impacts
02:00:58.370 --> 02:01:00.040
of our climate emergency.
02:01:00.040 --> 02:01:01.910
The NEM three proposal as it stands,
02:01:01.910 --> 02:01:04.070
would destroy the solar industry.
02:01:04.070 --> 02:01:06.960
Reducing the NEM terms from 20 to 15 years
02:01:06.960 --> 02:01:09.770
for existing solar customers ruins the trust
02:01:09.770 --> 02:01:13.300
we have in any future CPUC decisions If you can change
02:01:13.300 --> 02:01:14.650
your mind in the future.
02:01:14.650 --> 02:01:17.830
The fact that this and the monthly solar fees made it
02:01:17.830 --> 02:01:19.800
into the proposed decision is shameful
02:01:19.800 --> 02:01:22.510
and a profit grabbed by the utilities.
02:01:22.510 --> 02:01:24.030
You're supposed to regulate the monopolies,
02:01:24.030 --> 02:01:26.430
not help them profit off Californians.
02:01:26.430 --> 02:01:28.850
Personally, I rent an apartment in Southern in California
02:01:28.850 --> 02:01:33.660
and the way to help renters like me and 45% of Californians
02:01:33.660 --> 02:01:37.290
is to get solar is to empower the virtual net metering
02:01:37.290 --> 02:01:39.750
program and community solar program.
02:01:39.750 --> 02:01:42.690
Cal property owners justify the solar
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and benefit their tenants.
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The promo does nothing to help the 45% of Californians
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who are renters go solar by devaluing exported energy.
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(alarm ringing)
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Thank you all for taking the time.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is PR. T Neil.
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You may go ahead.
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Yes.
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Can you hear me?
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Yes, we can please go ahead.
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Okay.
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I wanna thank you for that...
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First and foremost Commissioners.
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I know this is one heavy agenda and I appreciate
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the opportunity to speak today.
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On behalf of my nonprofit that I founded 19 years ago,
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embracing the community leadership alliances.
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And if I'm winded it, 'cause I ran to the phone right now.
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I've been on it all day, but I help.
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What I wanna say is that the nonprofit addresses
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the greater Long Beach in Los Angeles areas
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and it focuses on underserved underprivileged communities,
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giving them resources in scaffolding
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they don't have in their daily lives.
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And it's all pursuing higher education
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and environmental stewardness.
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With that said, I would also like to expand
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my appreciation on what the Commission has proposed.
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The decision has began to address the net energy metering.
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However--(alarm ringing)
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Thank you.
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I'll read--
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Thank you for your comment.
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Bye--
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Operator, next Caller please.
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Our next comment is from Joanne Helvig.
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You may go ahead.
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Hi.
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Thank you so much Commissioners.
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My name is Joanne Helvig and I live in Oakland, California
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in a mostly low and working class neighborhood.
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I'm a single mother of two due to rising PG&E costs,
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I started looking into rooftop solar recently
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and I was very shocked to learn about that metering 3.0,
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I can tell you that my decision as the head of my household
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is a financial one and I would not be getting rooftop solar
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if I would have to fall under 3.0,
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which is a very difficult decision for me because
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I am an environmentally conscious person
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and I'm keenly aware of the state of our environment.
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What is happening in California, my family
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was only six miles away from the fires in near
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Plasterville California and they were evacuated.
02:04:33.650 --> 02:04:37.060
I like everyone else on this forum have seen
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sky turn to the color of blood in the late summer.
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We are alarmed at, I'm sure all of us are alarmed
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at the rising sea levels.
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And--(alarm ringing)
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Thank you.
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So I urge you to vote no
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on three point 'O'.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Seth Tilley.
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You may go ahead.
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Yeah.
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Hi, my name is Seth Tilley.
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I've been in solar since 2006 and I work
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for San Diego county solar live in San Diego, California.
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I not only feed my family with my career in solar.
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I'm also very proud to have a career
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that aligns with my values.
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And as my one year old grows older,
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I wanna be able to look in the eye
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and tell 'em that I did my part.
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So, I'm happy to be in this industry
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that meter NEM 3.0 as it was initially ruled
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would essentially kill the industry
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and make it impossible for California to achieve
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our zero carbon goal.
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So, I strongly urge the Commission to vote no
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on NEM metering 3.0
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and lastly I'll say that in the last years,`
02:05:51.047 --> 02:05:53.370
recent years solars become more achievable
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for middle and lower income people
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and NEM metering 3.0 would eliminate
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the opportunity.
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So, thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Jesse Elliot.
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You may go ahead.
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Hi.
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My name is Jesse Elliot.
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I live in Sanless Ville, California.
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I've been working in this industry,
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solar industry for the past 18 years.
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I currently own and JEBEL Engineering Construction
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and co-owner of solar motion.
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I helped grow one of the largest solar companies
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in the nation for 17 years.
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And let me tell you, no one is getting rich in our industry.
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We are all just making a living,
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providing jobs for Californians.
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And completely opposed to the current NEM three proposal.
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This is in asinine proposal and if you vote
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to move forward with it,(clearing throat)
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then you are admitting to all residents of California
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and many others that are actually watching this issue
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around the nation that you are incompetent
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and compromise corrupt.
02:07:03.690 --> 02:07:06.410
Do you really want that to be your legacy?
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It is simple, shred the current proposal
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resisting them one and two customers or to be left alone
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should be no new charges on customers
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for having producing solar energy.
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Thank you for your time.
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Thank you.
02:07:21.380 --> 02:07:22.923
Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Michael Luber.
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You may go ahead.
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Yes.
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My name is Mike Luber and I'm a retired
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civil engineer living in Orange county.
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My wife and I are strong supporters of California's
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environmental goals to combat climate alteration
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and to safeguard California's species
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and undeveloped places.
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One of the best ways to meet these goals
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is to encourage rooftop solar systems.
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Consequently, I ask the CPUC to not impose new fees
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on rooftop, solar connections to the grid
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or reduction in net metering rates
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and certainly not reneging on existing compacts
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between existing rooftop, solar owners
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and the state of California.
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Rooftop solar is superior to large distance solar
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installations because excess energy goes into the local grid
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and it's consumed locally avoiding
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the need for long transmission lines.
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That ruin (alarm ringing) the electric grid.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Next caller, please operator.
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Our next caller is Janice Barnett.
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You may go ahead.
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Hi.
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Can you hear me?
02:08:54.610 --> 02:08:56.170
Yes, we can go ahead.
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Oh great.
02:08:58.067 --> 02:09:01.190
Yes I think I've been on since 10 o'clock this morning.
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My name is Janice Barnett and in 2020,
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I bought a brand new home in Sacramento, California,
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and because it was a new build,
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it was mandated by the California law to have solar.
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There are many hundreds of home is currently being built
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right now in this area.
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And we're all forced to buy solar at our expense.
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Well, many of us are making house payments
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and still paying for our solars.
02:09:32.640 --> 02:09:37.640
And this proposal fee will be a very hardship on a lot of us
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that have to make ends meet in their...
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I don't believe that the state of California,
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could mandate the purchase of solar and turn around
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and penalize the homeowners for putting solar on their home.
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This bill will hurt future generations.
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We're happy.
(alarm ringing)
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(indistinct)
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Melissa Cahoun.
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You may go ahead.
02:10:15.490 --> 02:10:16.323
Hi.
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My name is Melissa Cahoun and I'm the head
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of marketing for SolarEdge Technology in North America.
02:10:21.060 --> 02:10:24.020
SolarEdge started of in 2006 and is the largest solar
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convert manufacturer with our us headquarters
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located here in California in Silicon valley.
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And I'm calling on behalf of the hundreds
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of California SolarEdge employees,
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as well as the thousands of large to small family owned
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solar businesses and homeowners serve
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to implore you to reject this proposal.
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Not only will this be devastating for solar jobs,
02:10:46.760 --> 02:10:50.010
but it will destroy the rate of new solar adoption
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betray the almost one and a half million health tools
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that have already gone solar and take California
02:10:56.020 --> 02:10:59.140
a huge step backwards in the fight for climate change.
02:10:59.140 --> 02:11:01.900
So, please don't erase environmental progress.
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Do not jeopardize the livelihoods of so many
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and continue to let California be the progressive leader
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for renewable energy.
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We're counting on you to do the right thing.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, operator.
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Next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Mary Lynn Round.
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You may go ahead.
02:11:20.430 --> 02:11:21.263
Yes.
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This is Mary Lynn Round.
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I am calling because at PG&E's apparent request,
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you are considering implementing a utility profit grab
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at the expense of the majority of California
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citizens and a plan that is not in alignment
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with California's clean energy goals.
02:11:41.510 --> 02:11:45.360
How sad that California's who have in good conscious
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started what is right for the planet by installing
02:11:49.400 --> 02:11:52.530
solar panels are now going to be cheated out
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of their Goodwill investment because PG&E a company legally
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responsible for loss of life and billions of dollars
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of property is going to request it of you.
02:12:08.120 --> 02:12:12.270
And the loss was done because of their negligence.
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I live in Northern California,
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where we have for season I after season inhaled smoke
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that contributes to health issues
02:12:20.090 --> 02:12:22.580
and our climate crisis every summer,
02:12:22.580 --> 02:12:27.280
a major reason, PG&E a failed to bury transmission lines
02:12:27.280 --> 02:12:30.726
and instead left the bus poorly maintained
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(alarm ringing) transmission lines.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much, operator.
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Next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Joshua Resnick.
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You may go ahead.
02:12:41.990 --> 02:12:42.823
Hello.
02:12:42.823 --> 02:12:44.106
Thank you.
02:12:44.106 --> 02:12:46.140
It's been waiting a while.
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My name is Joshua Rednick and I work
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for sun gauge in Oakland.
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I was born and raised in Berkeley
02:12:51.350 --> 02:12:53.920
and I've worked in solar for 11 years.
02:12:53.920 --> 02:12:56.990
I love my solar career because we are democratizing energy
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independence, working towards a cleaner future
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and contributing to job growth in California.
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The proposed decision would kill the value proposition
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for homeowners and my job and nearly
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70,000 other California solar jobs along with it.
02:13:10.250 --> 02:13:12.850
The current NEM three proposal is a disaster
02:13:12.850 --> 02:13:15.000
for the solar industry and for California,
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you must reject this, please.
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Thank you very much for listening and have a good day.
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Thank you.
02:13:21.310 --> 02:13:22.793
Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Sarah Ruth.
02:13:26.680 --> 02:13:27.573
You may go ahead.
02:13:28.520 --> 02:13:30.190
Hi. Can you hear me?
02:13:30.190 --> 02:13:31.179
Yes, we can please.
02:13:31.179 --> 02:13:32.012
Thank you.
02:13:32.012 --> 02:13:36.210
And I really wanna thank the Commission for this hours
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and hours long exercise and democracy.
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It's really very heartening.
02:13:39.630 --> 02:13:43.260
There have been hundreds of amazingly smart comments.
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I can't begin to touch.
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Thank you for letting them be said.
02:13:46.870 --> 02:13:50.320
I want to point out and speak to what a mayor
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said about how their work was...
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She was addressing her comments to the Governor
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that she'd been working for him and his agenda,
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'cause she believed in it.
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I'm struck by the fact that we're sitting here right
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on the phones of two initiatives that everybody wants.
02:14:07.260 --> 02:14:09.060
This and also the guaranteed healthcare
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for all that 80, 1400.
02:14:11.580 --> 02:14:13.050
Everybody wants that.
02:14:13.050 --> 02:14:15.080
Everybody here thinks this net metering
02:14:15.080 --> 02:14:16.283
proposal is ridiculous.
02:14:17.290 --> 02:14:22.290
I'm not sure what kind of productivity waste
02:14:22.750 --> 02:14:25.320
has been recognized here by all these people
02:14:25.320 --> 02:14:27.040
hanging on the phone all this time.
02:14:27.040 --> 02:14:28.910
It isn't good for us.
02:14:28.910 --> 02:14:31.540
Let's not do something that is done.
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I'm also concerned with the implication on schools.
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They're schooled across the country--
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(alarm ringing)
Okay, sorry.
02:14:38.680 --> 02:14:39.620
Thank you.
02:14:39.620 --> 02:14:41.460
Thank you, operator.
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Next caller please.
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Our next caller is Jan Ellen Dietrich.
02:14:46.930 --> 02:14:47.823
You may go ahead.
02:14:51.078 --> 02:14:51.911
[Jan Ellen Dietrich] Hi.
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Yes, Jan Ellen Dietrich is Ventura.
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I have small agricultural business.
02:14:56.430 --> 02:14:59.323
That's been saving to expand our solar system
02:14:59.323 --> 02:15:01.970
with the recommended battery storage
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and our net motivation is to help cut peaker use
02:15:05.320 --> 02:15:08.890
and GHG's, a young consultant helping people
02:15:08.890 --> 02:15:12.830
buy systems told me that if the news of this PG&E
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spread those calling him have how that have previously
02:15:16.850 --> 02:15:21.810
been confident and hopeful are now anxious and confused.
02:15:21.810 --> 02:15:24.780
They ask, should I hurry up because
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rules will change or wait.
02:15:26.900 --> 02:15:31.060
His valuable time is going to mitigate your confusion
02:15:32.120 --> 02:15:36.120
and not satisfying customers by selling systems.
02:15:36.120 --> 02:15:38.120
That's just crazy.
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So, I'm asking you to stop the disruption of these lives.
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Reestablish stability with ample incentives,
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for storage and equity for all.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Bill Binal.
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You may go ahead.
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Good afternoon Commissioners, Bill Binal.
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I live in San Diego county ground zero for solar.
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I've been involved in the renewable technology interest
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suite since 2009 I second and third,
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the motions to oppose this one sided net meeting NEM 3.0
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recommendations and echo all the arguments statistics
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previously given by my esteemed colleagues
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and concerned citizens.
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California has led the way in the worthy goal
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to create a renewable and sustainable world.
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Let's make a better world for our children,
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our grandchildren and future descendants.
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Don't turn back the clock.
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Let's move forward to creative technology.
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There is enough energy in the sun in two hours
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to power the entire for a year.
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Paraphrasing Thomas Edison even stated back in 1910,
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I put my money on the sun and solar energy.
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Let's hope we don't have to wait until all the coal,
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gas and oil are used up until we harness the sun.
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Please break it up.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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Take our next caller please.
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Our next caller is Shirley Shelanski.
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You may go ahead.
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[Shirley Shelanski] Okay.
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Hello?
Can you hear me?
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Yes we can please go ahead.
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[Shirley Shelanski] Oh, okay.
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Hi, this is Shirley Shelanski I'm opposed
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to the proposed NEM three measure.
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I'm a retiry and pleasant hill who had to fight
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for solar three years ago because I'm in an HOA
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of a private unit development.
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I chose solar to do my part in fighting climate change
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and improving air quality.
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If I use more energy than I get PG&E reimburses me
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at four percent or four cents.
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But if I use too energy, it true up,
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I pay 28 cents or more of whatever the going rate is.
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I feel like that's my role and I don't need
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to be further penalized by a tax.
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I also charge my hybrid plugin with clean energy.
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I don't wanna deal with dirty energy.
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I'm asking you to honor the 20 year agreement
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as well as making solar affordable to low
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and middle class residents.
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Solar provides good clean energy jobs
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and help us meet our climate goals.
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Rooftop solar will free up open space
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by having to, so we don't have to place
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large solar and wind projects.
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Please--
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Please pass this--
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Thank you.
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[Shirley Shelanski] Thank you.
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Thank you for your comments.
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Operator, next caller please.
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President Reynold.
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Our next speaker is Elester, Elester you are on muted.
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Go ahead and speak.
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Yes, can you hear me?
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Yes, we can please go ahead.
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Okay.
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Ladies and gentlemen of the CPUC
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this is a very serious issue.
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NEM three is an attack on our democracy
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and this is the real insurrection
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that's occurring in our country.
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Not November 3rd, like the former president said,
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and not January 6th, like the current one is saying
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this CPUC decision is the fight of our time.
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The corporate and monopolist utility companies
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are pushing this to make solar inequitable.
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Inequitable means not equitable.
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Contrary to the utilities, jargon
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and intentional misunderstanding
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and use of the word equity.
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It is inequitable for the working and middle class
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to go solar with NEM 3.0 because it is way too expensive.
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The Paris climate Accords,
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which we are now part of thanks to president Biden
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and push is made by Governor Newsom demand action
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to prevent the media threat of climate change.
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CPUC Commissioners, I'm talking to you right now,
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do not be a cohort in this interaction.
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If you do and vote for this,
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you'll be participating in economic treason,
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and you'll be labeled to domestic terrorist.
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Please understand (alarm rings) the way behind your vote.
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Thank you very much, Operator.
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Next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Charlie.
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(clearing throat)
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Excuse me.
(coughing)
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Excuse me, Charlie Popper.
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Yes.
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Can you hear me?
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Yes, we can please go ahead.
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Okay.
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I'm a retiree.
02:20:50.936 --> 02:20:55.936
I installed solar 15 years ago with the intent
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of reducing our impact on global warming.
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I live in, if you want to know exactly where I live,
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it's in Plumas county.
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It's the part of Plumas county with the big hole
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where the Dixie fire did not burn.
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And if I had never had any questions
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about how important it is to have solar
02:21:15.820 --> 02:21:20.820
for climate change this year, as I watched the fire burn
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all around us, I am very opposed to this proposal.
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I think it is going to penalize us for doing the right thing
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15 years ago, and it is going to have just the opposite
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effect on our impacts on global change.
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Thank you, please oppose it.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Tomlind.
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You may go ahead.
02:21:56.960 --> 02:21:57.793
Hello.
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Thank you for hanging in there all day.
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I appreciate the intention of the CPUC
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and some of the parties to improve equity
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and to encourage storage.
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But I wanna talk about unintended consequences.
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I'm concerned that this tariff proposal will not solve
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the problem of rate payer equity,
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but rather will likely make it worse.
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Even if the proposal of economous
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in the solar energy industry, there's one group
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that will be incentivized by this proposal.
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All of you on from know more better than most
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how much anger there is at private utilities in this state.
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As this proposed tariff makes grid tied PD uneconomic,
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just as battery prices are coming down.
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I expect the new tariff will likely lead more wealthy people
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to get batteries and take their solar off the grid.
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Leaving poor ratepayers,
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holding the bag to support the grid.
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Exactly what you were trying to counter.
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I'm not wealthy and I'm considering it.
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This takes those solar and storage
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resources inefficiently off the grid,
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just when the climate crisis calls on us
02:22:53.100 --> 02:22:56.157
to employ all the renewables and storage resources
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we can as effectively as we can.
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Unfortunately, the rate bases system is regressive
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and broken and private utilities seems up
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to the job of saving us.
(alarm ringing)
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Jan Warren.
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You may go ahead.
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Again, Jan Warren your line is open.
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Please check your mute button.
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Can you hear me now?
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Hello.
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We can hear you now, please go ahead.
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Okay, I'm sorry.
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Nevermind.
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I'm with the Interfaith Climate Action
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Network of Contra Costa County
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I live in Walnut Creek and we
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have rooftop solar on our home.
02:23:43.650 --> 02:23:46.300
Faith congregations have been putting solar
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on their rooftops to reduce their carbon footprints
02:23:49.750 --> 02:23:52.850
and many are adding battery storage to provide resilience
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hub in their communities.
02:23:54.950 --> 02:23:57.800
Interfaith Climate Action Network of Contra Costa County
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supports state funding through cap trade,
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and other state funding sources for low income households
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to install solar and reduce their energy financial burden.
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California can't meet their 2030 goals
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without rooftops solar.
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We are against the proposed solar penalty fee.
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Please save California jobs.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, operator.
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Next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Kathy Rowling.
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Please, go ahead.
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Hello, yes.
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And thank you for taking my call.
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My name is Kathy Rowling.
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I'm a school board member in city of Carlsbad,
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and we have written resolutions as well as other
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school districts in San Diego county.
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And the biggest issues that I see per schools
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is that we've had taxpayers invest millions
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and millions of dollars in solar arrays in school districts
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and this proposal penalizes those districts.
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And then again also discourages other districts.
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So, basically this really penalizes taxpayers
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and taxpayers are the same people as ratepayers.
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And the other thing to realize is that there is a school
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district and a school in every neighborhood,
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including disadvantaged neighborhoods.
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So, it's important to understand that schools
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can play an integral role.
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And that's a big part of fixing this net metering 3.0.
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So I highly encourage you to get rid of this proposal
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and start over with climate change
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and education schools in mind.
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Thank you.
(alarm ringing)
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Thank you, operator next caller please.
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Our next caller is Oeded Vogo.
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You may go ahead.
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Hi, my name is Oeded Vogo
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I'm with All Valley Solar in the Los Angeles area,
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and I've been in our thermal industry for 42 years.
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My reflection today on the international Holocaust day
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that we've all lost some things,
02:26:10.770 --> 02:26:14.603
and hopefully we will have some hope beyond
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loss of family members.
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It's about 77 plus years ago on December 31st, 1985.
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We lost the thermal solar industry as we know it
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with the killing of the tax credit,
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took over a decade to recover.
02:26:36.230 --> 02:26:41.230
Please don't approve the NEM three and make it
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solar death 2.0, thank you for listening.
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And I'm sorry for my breath walking here after seven hours.
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Bye, bye.
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Thank you very much Operator.
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Next caller please.
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Okay.
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Our next caller is William Dawson.
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You may go ahead.
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It looks like Williams line disconnected.
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Our next caller is Frank Fratus.
02:27:10.860 --> 02:27:13.207
You may go ahead or Fratus.
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Hello.
02:27:15.500 --> 02:27:16.823
My name is Frank Fratus.
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I believe this policy goes against US public policy,
02:27:23.500 --> 02:27:27.573
California public policy, and it doesn't make any sense.
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I think what will happen from this is maybe not a intended
02:27:33.231 --> 02:27:36.040
consequence is that these companies,
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rather than leave the state,
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they will come to come together and design and build systems
02:27:41.170 --> 02:27:43.820
that convert current systems to off grid.
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And I would be willing to participate in that.
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I'm not in the business.
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I'm retired.
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I do have solar panels and I do have a battery.
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And my net usage for the year last year was negative.
02:27:55.580 --> 02:28:00.580
So this public policy requires this rule to be denied.
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Thank you, operator.
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Next caller, please.
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Our next caller is there Theresa Chesmore.
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You may go ahead.
02:28:16.474 --> 02:28:17.307
[Theresa Chesmore] Hi.
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Can you hear me?
02:28:18.560 --> 02:28:20.651
Yes, we can please go ahead.
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[Theresa Chesmore] Oh yes.
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Hi, my name's Theresa Chesmore
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and I live in Fort Bragg, California,
02:28:25.617 --> 02:28:28.660
and my husband and I are retired and we just put
02:28:28.660 --> 02:28:32.530
solar panels on this month and we are connected.
02:28:32.530 --> 02:28:34.780
I wasn't fully aware of this,
02:28:34.780 --> 02:28:38.390
what was going on and we took the money and paid it out
02:28:38.390 --> 02:28:40.570
in full out of our meager savings.
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We have very little, because we couldn't keep up
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with the cost of the PG&E bill.
02:28:45.970 --> 02:28:48.770
And we've had it checked out by PG&E how do we come
02:28:48.770 --> 02:28:50.770
and look up the meter, blah, blah, blah.
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If this turns passes and we are not gonna get from these,
02:28:56.270 --> 02:28:58.110
the money that we put into the solar panels,
02:28:58.110 --> 02:29:02.290
who do we go to to get our money back to these solar panels
02:29:02.290 --> 02:29:07.290
that PG&E's going to benefit from not to mention
02:29:07.360 --> 02:29:10.400
why are they gonna put taxes on solar owners
02:29:10.400 --> 02:29:13.440
when I'm not sure, but I think PG&E themselves
02:29:13.440 --> 02:29:15.140
don't pay taxes.
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Thank you.
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Have a great day.
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Hope it doesn't pass, bye.
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Thank you, operator.
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Next call please.
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Our next is Leor Milligram Garner.
02:29:27.560 --> 02:29:28.410
You may go ahead.
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[Leor Milligram Garner] Hi. Yes.
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Thank you so much.
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I'm so happy.
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I stayed on the line for one extra minute.
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My name is Liore Milgrom-Gartner.
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I am the Norther Director for California Interfaith
02:29:40.260 --> 02:29:43.130
Power & Light, I'm a renter and a multifamily
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dwell and a trained economist.
02:29:45.440 --> 02:29:48.510
I come to you on my own behalf and that of over 800
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individuals of faith, committed to climate justice
02:29:51.430 --> 02:29:53.560
who signed onto our action alert.
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Rooftop solar must remain affordable.
02:29:55.610 --> 02:29:58.760
We ask for you increased incentives for the poorest among us
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and for batteries for a fall.
02:30:00.590 --> 02:30:03.000
The earth is calling on us to ask on climate.
02:30:03.000 --> 02:30:06.780
We need a SWIFT about clean energy while fortifying
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communities with microgrids,
02:30:08.460 --> 02:30:10.350
our congregations enabled by strong
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them are doing just that.
02:30:11.827 --> 02:30:14.790
Please continue and strengthen these policies
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so we can answer our call to care for the earth
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and one another.
02:30:18.380 --> 02:30:20.883
Thank you so much for this very long day.
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Thank you.
02:30:23.210 --> 02:30:24.773
Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is John panic.
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(indistinct chatters)
02:30:37.670 --> 02:30:39.993
Our next caller is John Panic.
02:30:41.240 --> 02:30:42.203
You may go ahead.
02:30:43.640 --> 02:30:44.590
Yes.
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This is John panic from Long Beach, California.
02:30:51.680 --> 02:30:53.653
I'm against this proposal.
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There's a lot of things that really haven't been said,
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and I apologize in advance if I insult anybody.
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But this egregious proposal is based
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basically on greed, if not entirely on greed.
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The lack of integrity is very evident
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and most people think there is collusion going on.
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I would hope you'd be able to prove contrary
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and be able to eliminate this proposal
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and actually give credits to net generators.
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Thank you very much.
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I appreciate it.
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Thank you.
02:31:41.283 --> 02:31:43.363
Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Adam Bagnall, may go ahead.
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Thank you.
02:31:52.430 --> 02:31:54.150
Hi, my name is Adam Bagnall.
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I'm a solar engineer for Solar Rebel
02:31:55.940 --> 02:31:58.580
and I've been working in solar for about nine years.
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I worked at Solar City in 2012 when Arizona public service
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gutted none and added steep monthly fees
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for solar customers.
02:32:06.020 --> 02:32:08.300
As a result, several solar companies pulled out
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of the state overnight leading to immediate job losses
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and effectively eviscerating the industry
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there for several years.
02:32:14.740 --> 02:32:16.280
Since California is the national
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trend center for clean energy.
02:32:17.860 --> 02:32:19.600
Not only will this cost as jobs,
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but it'll create a domino effect of other states
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having the same misinformed idea.
02:32:23.560 --> 02:32:26.020
I'm confident there's a solution that won't increase costs
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while maintaining price equity for non solar customers.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
02:32:31.410 --> 02:32:32.943
Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is David Erickson.
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You may go ahead.
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This is David Erickson.
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I'm a homeowner in Scotts valley, California.
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We urge you to reject NEM 3.0.
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This current solar tax proposal before you
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seems like a step backwards.
02:32:59.630 --> 02:33:01.220
We are currently in the midst of solar
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or electric power installation at our home.
02:33:03.600 --> 02:33:05.420
As an attempt to do our part for clean,
02:33:05.420 --> 02:33:09.410
renewable energy for lower ongoing energy costs
02:33:09.410 --> 02:33:11.320
and for maintaining electric energy during
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public safety power shutoffs.
02:33:13.400 --> 02:33:15.100
Additionally, excess power generated
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also feeds back to the electric grid,
02:33:17.190 --> 02:33:20.010
lowering the demand on fossil fueled powered generation
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plants and thus reducing pollution.
02:33:22.990 --> 02:33:26.480
It's unclear to me what theorY collected fees are for.
02:33:26.480 --> 02:33:29.870
Does the utility like PG&E retain them
02:33:29.870 --> 02:33:31.070
as revenue of profits?
02:33:31.070 --> 02:33:32.430
Are they collected for the state?
02:33:32.430 --> 02:33:34.323
If so, what is this Tax fund?
02:33:35.440 --> 02:33:38.260
Legislatures have passed measures for incentives
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for solar installation.
02:33:39.750 --> 02:33:43.240
This proposal counteracts those measures.
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We urge you to reject NEM 3.0, including any compromises.
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Thank you for listening.
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Thank you, operator, next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Missy Simpiino.
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You may go ahead.
02:33:59.890 --> 02:34:01.721
Hi, this is Missy Simpiino.
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I'm with the rooftop solar.
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I've been in North Solar Industry for nine years
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and I live in Roseville, California,
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and I appreciate you taking the time to listen to me,
02:34:09.067 --> 02:34:10.910
and I did wanna make two points.
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First of all, just say thank you for passing the initiative
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on California solar mandate, which was in massive
02:34:16.220 --> 02:34:18.510
in January, 2020, that all homes
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have to be built with solar.
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I do wanna say that with that in mind,
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every person that goes solar after the NEM three has passed,
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is gonna pay more for their utility costs than a customer
02:34:29.530 --> 02:34:32.040
that's connected directly to the grid.
02:34:32.040 --> 02:34:34.800
So, definitely will kill solar and putting every new
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homeowner at risk of paying
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more for their utility, which is crazy.
02:34:38.730 --> 02:34:40.700
The second thing I'd like to say is if you can,
02:34:40.700 --> 02:34:42.760
I implore you to go back and look at what happened
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in NEM one to NEM two, where you added transmission fees.
02:34:46.290 --> 02:34:49.830
Teaching E rates are 80% higher than any of the other person
02:34:49.830 --> 02:34:53.330
or any other utility company in the US.
02:34:53.330 --> 02:34:56.350
And therefore they buy more power than anyone else
02:34:56.350 --> 02:34:58.360
because there territories are so large.
02:34:58.360 --> 02:35:00.150
They buy at a lower rate than anyone else
02:35:00.150 --> 02:35:01.870
and charge more than anyone else.
02:35:01.870 --> 02:35:04.760
It's not the solar companies that are charging more money
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for the rates to go up--
(alarm ringing)
02:35:08.984 --> 02:35:10.550
or the solar utility companies mismanagement--
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
02:35:13.730 --> 02:35:15.090
Thank you, operator.
02:35:15.090 --> 02:35:16.123
Next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Allis Druffel.
02:35:19.430 --> 02:35:20.280
You may go ahead.
02:35:22.730 --> 02:35:24.480
Good afternoon Commissioners.
02:35:24.480 --> 02:35:25.843
My name is Allis Druffel.
02:35:26.878 --> 02:35:28.370
I'm the Southern California Director
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for California Interfaith Power & Light.
02:35:31.050 --> 02:35:33.710
We're excited by a recent survey that shows over
02:35:33.710 --> 02:35:38.110
300 houses of worship in the golden state employee solar,
02:35:38.110 --> 02:35:39.980
these faith organizations,
02:35:39.980 --> 02:35:42.170
more than and 800 Californians of faith
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and two dozen state and national faith organizations
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have signed onto our petition and support a revised
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net metering that does not have a monthly solar tax
02:35:53.070 --> 02:35:55.840
that honors the 20 year net metering protection
02:35:55.840 --> 02:35:59.470
for current solar customers and a net metering credit
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that works for working middle class families.
02:36:02.490 --> 02:36:06.370
We reject the false cost shift narrative and urge
02:36:06.370 --> 02:36:09.820
in them that protects solar jobs, public health,
02:36:09.820 --> 02:36:13.810
and the ongoing transition to a clean energy economy.
02:36:13.810 --> 02:36:15.083
Thank you so much.
02:36:16.080 --> 02:36:17.550
Thank you, operator.
02:36:17.550 --> 02:36:18.663
Next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Justin.
02:36:21.780 --> 02:36:22.773
You am I go ahead?
02:36:25.650 --> 02:36:28.330
Hi, this is Justin
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I'm in the solar industry here in the Bay area.
02:36:31.850 --> 02:36:33.170
I just wanna comment on some of the people
02:36:33.170 --> 02:36:34.333
that have been talking.
02:36:35.220 --> 02:36:36.780
It's great to hear them.
02:36:36.780 --> 02:36:39.930
That sounds like people are a little more educated
02:36:39.930 --> 02:36:41.900
and truthful this time around
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couple interesting points is the guy I was talking about
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having to disconnect solar,
02:36:47.130 --> 02:36:48.610
'cause it's not gonna be worth it anymore.
02:36:48.610 --> 02:36:51.850
Also the guy talking about the builders and the new bills
02:36:54.690 --> 02:36:55.800
that hasn't been addressed,
02:36:55.800 --> 02:36:59.730
what's gonna happen with, solar once it's deemed absolute
02:36:59.730 --> 02:37:02.130
for a lot of current customers and customers
02:37:02.130 --> 02:37:07.130
that are installing it, PG&E makes plenty of money
02:37:08.670 --> 02:37:11.580
off of so customers, other customers don't have to pay
02:37:11.580 --> 02:37:13.760
high rates because of solar customers.
02:37:13.760 --> 02:37:15.800
PG&E isn't gonna drop their rates.
02:37:15.800 --> 02:37:18.900
If there is less solar or if NEM three is passed,
02:37:18.900 --> 02:37:20.780
unions are not gonna be affected.
02:37:20.780 --> 02:37:22.220
The talk of so fields has nothing
02:37:22.220 --> 02:37:24.290
to do with anything in California.
02:37:24.290 --> 02:37:27.670
People have solar, mostly just have lower bills.
02:37:27.670 --> 02:37:29.130
They're not living off the grid
02:37:29.130 --> 02:37:31.439
and they're not stealing for PG&E.
02:37:31.439 --> 02:37:32.272
(alarm ringing)
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Please reject the NEM three and any of its amendments.
02:37:36.429 --> 02:37:38.113
Thank you very much.
02:37:38.113 --> 02:37:40.563
Thank you, operator, next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Yvette DeCarlo.
02:37:45.470 --> 02:37:46.950
You may go ahead.
02:37:46.950 --> 02:37:48.380
Hi, my name's Yvette Carlo.
02:37:48.380 --> 02:37:51.670
I'm a rooftop solar owner and former air resources board
02:37:51.670 --> 02:37:54.270
employee who worked on various climate change programs.
02:37:54.270 --> 02:37:56.410
And I can confidently say this is a distant
02:37:56.410 --> 02:37:58.630
and generous and harmful proposal.
02:37:58.630 --> 02:38:01.060
Rooftop solar helps utilities reduce the amount
02:38:01.060 --> 02:38:04.020
of energy they must generate or purchase themselves,
02:38:04.020 --> 02:38:06.650
Last March, PG&E boasted about exceeding
02:38:06.650 --> 02:38:08.630
their renewable compliance requirements.
02:38:08.630 --> 02:38:11.610
Thanks in big part to so to rooftop solar.
02:38:11.610 --> 02:38:12.690
And then a week later,
02:38:12.690 --> 02:38:15.390
they initiated this campaign to start blaming
02:38:15.390 --> 02:38:18.040
rooftop solar owners for not paying a fair share
02:38:18.040 --> 02:38:19.973
and as scapegoat to raise rates.
02:38:20.970 --> 02:38:23.907
So, basically big utilities are already starting to address
02:38:23.907 --> 02:38:26.930
and invest in large storage projects in changing their
02:38:26.930 --> 02:38:30.743
operational practices to lessen that duck curve challenge.
02:38:31.750 --> 02:38:34.180
Solar energy, it's arcing towards more affordability.
02:38:34.180 --> 02:38:36.330
So, I strongly urge you to vote no,
02:38:36.330 --> 02:38:40.440
one's proposal is to consider this, that if any utility
02:38:40.440 --> 02:38:43.970
can't survive on healthy profits versus enormous profits,
02:38:43.970 --> 02:38:46.130
they've come to the end of their useful life.
02:38:46.130 --> 02:38:48.030
Thank you so much for your time today.
02:38:49.340 --> 02:38:50.173
Thank you.
02:38:50.173 --> 02:38:51.663
Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Denise Al Halabi.
02:38:57.420 --> 02:38:58.563
You may go ahead.
02:39:02.560 --> 02:39:03.393
[Denise Al Halabi] Hello.
02:39:03.393 --> 02:39:05.230
My name is Denise Al Halabi.
02:39:05.230 --> 02:39:08.890
I work at Sungage Financial LLC in Oakland.
02:39:08.890 --> 02:39:12.889
Thank you, president Reynolds, the Commissioners and staff,
02:39:12.889 --> 02:39:16.250
although I've only worked in solar financing for a year.
02:39:16.250 --> 02:39:19.420
I absolutely love my solar career because I helped
02:39:19.420 --> 02:39:22.060
residential solar installer is provide the lowest monthly
02:39:22.060 --> 02:39:25.280
payment, financing to their customers
02:39:25.280 --> 02:39:27.883
in Southern California, Arizona, and New Mexico.
02:39:28.730 --> 02:39:31.640
What this August body of Commissioners plan to do
02:39:31.640 --> 02:39:35.300
when they agree to net energy metering 3.0
02:39:35.300 --> 02:39:38.310
is to drastically change my job as it functions today,
02:39:38.310 --> 02:39:41.013
destroy the livelihoods of many rooftop solar,
02:39:42.150 --> 02:39:44.820
their workers, how they care for their families
02:39:44.820 --> 02:39:48.270
and the communities they live in and essentially steal
02:39:48.270 --> 02:39:51.560
yes, steal their customers and potential customers
02:39:51.560 --> 02:39:55.490
ability to enjoy clean energy and all of its benefits
02:39:55.490 --> 02:39:59.610
like eliminating the ever tightening yolk of unrelenting
02:39:59.610 --> 02:40:01.810
utility bill escalations,
02:40:01.810 --> 02:40:05.200
please vote against this proposed criminal act.
02:40:05.200 --> 02:40:10.200
Just say no to NEM 3.0, are you listening to us?
02:40:10.990 --> 02:40:12.123
Thank you so much.
02:40:13.220 --> 02:40:14.980
Thank you, operator.
02:40:14.980 --> 02:40:16.360
Next caller, please.
02:40:18.200 --> 02:40:20.940
Our next caller is Lionel Rodriguez.
02:40:20.940 --> 02:40:21.790
You may go ahead.
02:40:24.272 --> 02:40:26.800
[Lionel Rodriguez] Thank you for the time Commissioners.
02:40:26.800 --> 02:40:29.000
I really appreciate you.
02:40:29.000 --> 02:40:32.680
I know it's a long day and we've been waiting for some time.
02:40:32.680 --> 02:40:35.960
My name is Lionel Rodriguez currently employed with solar
02:40:35.960 --> 02:40:38.980
optimum servicing the greater state of California
02:40:38.980 --> 02:40:40.810
in the city of Glendale.
02:40:40.810 --> 02:40:43.260
I've been in the California solar industry
02:40:43.260 --> 02:40:45.040
for over eight years.
02:40:45.040 --> 02:40:47.700
I'm currently married with five children
02:40:47.700 --> 02:40:51.433
ages from 17 down to seven years old.
02:40:52.800 --> 02:40:54.083
I'm proud to say that my oldest is gone
02:40:54.083 --> 02:40:56.520
into college this fisical year,
02:40:56.520 --> 02:41:00.480
and truly one of the most gratifying things as a father
02:41:01.360 --> 02:41:04.810
is to be able to put your child into college
02:41:04.810 --> 02:41:09.320
for a good education, for my oldest daughter.
02:41:09.320 --> 02:41:12.843
This opportunity to go to college has set a great example
02:41:12.843 --> 02:41:15.440
for her younger siblings.
02:41:15.440 --> 02:41:18.510
And it's bringing her some great joy as well as I,
02:41:18.510 --> 02:41:22.910
for as a parent, my job has allowed me to financially
02:41:22.910 --> 02:41:27.040
support my family as one income provider
02:41:27.040 --> 02:41:30.553
and also to pay for my daughter's college.
02:41:30.553 --> 02:41:32.348
(alarm ringing)
02:41:32.348 --> 02:41:34.980
Please don't pass NEM 3.0,
02:41:34.980 --> 02:41:37.030
it's gonna affect my family
02:41:37.030 --> 02:41:39.882
and many other Californians.
02:41:39.882 --> 02:41:40.990
Thank you so much for your time
02:41:40.990 --> 02:41:42.880
and God bless you and with the decision--(indistinct)
02:41:42.880 --> 02:41:43.713
Thank you.
02:41:44.900 --> 02:41:45.733
Thank you.
02:41:45.733 --> 02:41:47.373
Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Ian Cohen.
02:41:50.490 --> 02:41:51.340
You may go ahead.
02:41:54.510 --> 02:41:56.190
Can you hear me?
02:41:56.190 --> 02:41:58.420
Yes, we can please go ahead.
02:41:58.420 --> 02:41:59.253
All right.
02:41:59.253 --> 02:42:01.940
Good evening on Commission.
02:42:01.940 --> 02:42:04.528
I'm in high school reform Brentwood in county
02:42:04.528 --> 02:42:08.480
in the bay area, and I'm a passionate environmentalist.
02:42:08.480 --> 02:42:12.150
I have been working on an anti oil campaign successfully.
02:42:12.150 --> 02:42:15.900
I am fully against this measure because I personally
02:42:15.900 --> 02:42:19.170
have solar panels and I believe that and many attacks
02:42:19.170 --> 02:42:22.760
and solar panels will ruin the future of solar panels.
02:42:22.760 --> 02:42:23.917
It will not just her job,
02:42:23.917 --> 02:42:26.730
but it will hurt the Californian people.
02:42:26.730 --> 02:42:27.600
That's all I have to say.
02:42:27.600 --> 02:42:29.120
Thank you.
02:42:29.120 --> 02:42:30.290
Thank you very much.
02:42:30.290 --> 02:42:31.903
Operator next caller, please.
02:42:34.189 --> 02:42:36.380
And our next caller is Alexandra Massey.
02:42:36.380 --> 02:42:37.233
You may go ahead.
02:42:38.975 --> 02:42:39.808
[Alexandra Massey] Hello.
02:42:39.808 --> 02:42:41.530
My name is Alex Massey.
02:42:41.530 --> 02:42:44.110
I'm 18 years old from Ventura county and a member
02:42:44.110 --> 02:42:46.600
of California youth versus big oil.
02:42:46.600 --> 02:42:50.930
I strongly oppose the CPUC proposal to taxes rooftop solar
02:42:50.930 --> 02:42:54.520
because there should be no penalty of solar, of any kind.
02:42:54.520 --> 02:42:56.140
Look at what you're planning on doing.
02:42:56.140 --> 02:42:59.130
You're allowing polluting industries like PG&E
02:42:59.130 --> 02:43:01.860
to monopolize the energy and industry and allowing them
02:43:01.860 --> 02:43:03.710
to catalyze the climate crisis,
02:43:03.710 --> 02:43:07.100
which affects my future and my generation and frontline
02:43:07.100 --> 02:43:08.960
communities in California,
02:43:08.960 --> 02:43:12.040
California must move towards solar energy, not away from it
02:43:12.040 --> 02:43:14.240
and use rooftop solar to allow residents
02:43:14.240 --> 02:43:15.860
to get their own energy.
02:43:15.860 --> 02:43:18.770
CPUC you need to be on the right side of history,
02:43:18.770 --> 02:43:21.430
which is not the side of a fossil fuel industry
02:43:21.430 --> 02:43:24.070
that tries to penalize solar in California.
02:43:24.070 --> 02:43:25.550
You should also make these comments
02:43:25.550 --> 02:43:28.470
more accessible for people who want to express
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their opinions on these issues.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator next caller, please.
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And President Reynold,
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we have no additional callers at this time.
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Thank you.
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I'll just ask if there's anyone else on the telephone
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who would like to make a public comment.
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And if anyone would like to make a comment,
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please unmute your phone and press star one.
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A caller from Robert Hunt.
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You may go ahead.
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Last meeting, I commented on why
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MSPD is flawed and listen to callers in favor today.
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You've heard the opposite from People all levels
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of the industry, current PD customers,
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but only a few who don't have rooftop solar.
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And if they were here today,
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they would be even more furious.
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Additionally, today you do not get the same packing point
02:44:33.450 --> 02:44:34.710
repeated over and over.
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You heard amazing real world examples and a wide
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variety of reasons to reject this PD.
02:44:39.640 --> 02:44:41.930
I understand that current program is causing disadvantage
02:44:41.930 --> 02:44:44.190
rate repairs about $13 a month.
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If that is true, increase the access fee to no participants,
02:44:46.930 --> 02:44:50.460
which is about $10 to whatever it takes to offset that cost,
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which I heard would be about $16 a month.
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This PD will not only kill rooftop solar in California.
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It will result in the utility companies being free provider
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of renewable energy with remote solar farms requiring
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more transmission minus increasing prior danger
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are reducing good reliability.
02:45:06.520 --> 02:45:08.340
We instead should be moving toward distributed
02:45:08.340 --> 02:45:10.410
energy production and begging you to come up
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with other ways to promote rooftop salt while not negatively
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impacting disadvantage communities.
02:45:15.260 --> 02:45:17.980
Another possibility could be a of the California climate
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credit, but only for disadvantaged communities.
02:45:20.610 --> 02:45:21.443
Thank you.
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Thank you.
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One more time checking to see if there's anyone else
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on the telephone who would like to make a public comment.
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Our next caller is Bill Conley.
02:45:35.730 --> 02:45:36.580
You may go ahead.
02:45:38.090 --> 02:45:38.923
Yes.
02:45:38.923 --> 02:45:40.880
Hi bill Conley here from Stockton, California.
02:45:40.880 --> 02:45:43.810
I'm an independent consultant with power energy.
02:45:43.810 --> 02:45:48.210
And I ask Commissioners that you reverse the decision
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of NEM 3.0 as it will devastate my personal business.
02:45:54.120 --> 02:45:57.363
And so many others in the solar industry in California,
02:45:58.490 --> 02:46:01.550
the distributed rooftop generation of solar
02:46:01.550 --> 02:46:04.780
is a very economically viable solution
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to achieve our net carbon neutrality goals.
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And I would just suggest Commissioners that you consider
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your legacy in this decision process.
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Do you wanna consider yourselves those who carried on
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the relatively good NEM policy that currently exists?
02:46:24.950 --> 02:46:27.800
Or would you like to be remembered as the ones
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who destroyed solar in California?
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Thank you very much.
02:46:34.160 --> 02:46:35.410
Thank you, operator.
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Do we have additional callers on the line?
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We do have several, Nicole Braynky is our next caller.
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Go ahead.
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You gonna go ahead.
02:46:45.286 --> 02:46:46.119
Thank you.
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My name's Nicole Braynky and I'd like to thank and echo
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everybody that's spoken out in opposition today.
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I've worked in the solar industry for over nine years.
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I've helped over 650 homeowners go solar
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for obvious reasons.
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Those families, they put their faith and their trust in me
02:47:01.460 --> 02:47:03.480
and now their solar savings and their 20 year
02:47:03.480 --> 02:47:05.850
grandfathering is in jeopardy.
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If this is approved, I don't see how I'm gonna be able
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to sleep at night thinking that I ultimately
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put all of those families in our terrible position.
02:47:13.170 --> 02:47:15.090
Let's not forget that California incentivized
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all these people to go solar.
02:47:16.440 --> 02:47:19.320
And it's incredibly unfair and unjust to change the terms
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of their existing net metering agreements
02:47:20.960 --> 02:47:22.440
that are already at play.
02:47:22.440 --> 02:47:24.700
The argument that low income families are suffering,
02:47:24.700 --> 02:47:26.011
increasing utility rates,
02:47:26.011 --> 02:47:27.660
that the hands of the solar industries simply
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doesn't hold up.
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We all know that California utility companies
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are not gonna to lower their rates
02:47:32.800 --> 02:47:34.770
even if this proposal is approved.
02:47:34.770 --> 02:47:36.420
So, this won't help anyone except
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the utility companies and their profit grabs.
02:47:38.870 --> 02:47:41.010
I urge you to go back to the drawing board,
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find a way to assist all homeowners,
02:47:42.670 --> 02:47:44.730
to obtain solar regardless of income level.
02:47:44.730 --> 02:47:47.020
So California can continue to chart its path toward
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a 100% renewable by 2045.
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Please reject this proposal.
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(alarm ringing)
Thank you.
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Thank you, operator.
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Next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Dominic Driscoll.
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You may go ahead.
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[Dominic Driscoll] I think that's myself,
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Conrad Driscoll, Commissioners, Governor Newsom.
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I'm a small business owner of go solar pros
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in Modesto, California.
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Half of our employees are of Hispanic heritage.
02:48:18.400 --> 02:48:20.750
I've been in solar industry for 13 years
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and from my heart like hundreds of other commenters
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and only two or three that were supporting
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this ma'am I'm against it.
02:48:32.940 --> 02:48:36.920
I think that we need to relook at the whole package
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of what you're proposing.
02:48:38.420 --> 02:48:40.540
Understand this has been a long day.
02:48:40.540 --> 02:48:43.733
Appreciate your patience with all these comments,
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but like all of these commenters,
02:48:46.140 --> 02:48:48.460
I am a small business owner.
02:48:48.460 --> 02:48:52.660
We do not make millions or billions, is laughable to suggest
02:48:52.660 --> 02:48:54.343
that we do by these false ads.
02:48:55.180 --> 02:48:58.860
This proposed P' and the reduction of NEM credit is wrong.
02:48:58.860 --> 02:48:59.970
I will not only destroy...
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It will not only destroy the solar industry,
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but still severely reduce the positive direction
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on climate impact as you've heard.
02:49:08.470 --> 02:49:12.210
The similar awful decision in Nevada,
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very similar was reverse--
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(alarm ringing)
Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, operator next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Harry Walker.
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You may go ahead.
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I am a retired school teacher
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for (indistinct) California,
02:49:28.093 --> 02:49:30.590
and I urge you to reject NEM three
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and support rooftop solar Instead.
02:49:34.000 --> 02:49:37.780
I've been NEM two customer since 2019.
02:49:37.780 --> 02:49:40.130
I made sacrifices and went into debt
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because I thought it was important to put rooftop,
02:49:42.510 --> 02:49:44.730
solar and batteries on my house.
02:49:44.730 --> 02:49:48.940
I wanted to keep my PG&E bills affordable my pension
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and to support the grid during critical high demand Use.
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California now leads the US in protecting our
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environment and fighting climate change.
02:49:58.630 --> 02:50:01.950
To keep that lead rooftop solar should be cheaper,
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not more expensive.
02:50:03.720 --> 02:50:07.610
And Californians said every income level need access
02:50:07.610 --> 02:50:12.210
to solar powered homes, businesses and transportation.
02:50:12.210 --> 02:50:14.890
PG&E keeps raising rates.
02:50:14.890 --> 02:50:17.550
NEM three would let the corporation squeeze
02:50:17.550 --> 02:50:20.800
even more profit out of ordinary citizens.
02:50:20.800 --> 02:50:22.560
It's not fair.
02:50:22.560 --> 02:50:26.270
It's not as if we had a choice to go without lights or heat
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or the little guys please support us ordinary consumers.
02:50:31.830 --> 02:50:35.463
Thank you, operator, next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Bob Irwin.
02:50:40.300 --> 02:50:41.150
You may go ahead.
02:50:42.470 --> 02:50:43.760
Hi. My name is Bob Irwin.
02:50:43.760 --> 02:50:46.840
I represent solar unlimited for a veteran own company
02:50:46.840 --> 02:50:50.060
outta solar, out of Acadia, California,
02:50:50.060 --> 02:50:52.990
and represent my 15 employees or families.
02:50:52.990 --> 02:50:56.160
The over 12,000 customers we've served
02:50:56.160 --> 02:51:00.850
over the last 42 years and all the other workers
02:51:00.850 --> 02:51:02.310
who are affiliated with the solar industry,
02:51:02.310 --> 02:51:05.290
this would've a cascade effect on so many other businesses,
02:51:05.290 --> 02:51:08.100
other than solar, marketing, financing,
02:51:08.100 --> 02:51:10.060
distribution, supply roofers.
02:51:10.060 --> 02:51:12.850
There's just countless people whose whose jobs
02:51:12.850 --> 02:51:14.100
are really in your hands.
02:51:15.924 --> 02:51:17.870
It's been a long day and I appreciate your time.
02:51:17.870 --> 02:51:19.920
I know you're good people trying to reach a fair
02:51:19.920 --> 02:51:22.650
and equitable decision, but I want you to consider this,
02:51:22.650 --> 02:51:26.320
that this decision has far reaching ramifications.
02:51:26.320 --> 02:51:28.530
This is something maybe one of the largest or biggest
02:51:28.530 --> 02:51:30.120
decisions you make in your entire lifetime.
02:51:30.120 --> 02:51:34.260
So, please opposed this net metering three proposition.
02:51:34.260 --> 02:51:36.150
This is your legacy and you can be the hero
02:51:36.150 --> 02:51:37.890
or the villain in your own story.
02:51:37.890 --> 02:51:39.990
I ask you to please be the guiding light that sends
02:51:39.990 --> 02:51:42.320
solar on its way through California,
02:51:42.320 --> 02:51:44.270
the United States and the rest of the world.
02:51:44.270 --> 02:51:45.880
Thank you.
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Thank you.
02:51:47.140 --> 02:51:48.633
Operator, next caller please.
02:51:49.595 --> 02:51:53.033
Next caller is Dan Ebnar, you may go ahead.
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Yes.
02:51:55.799 --> 02:51:56.850
Hi, can you hear me?
02:51:56.850 --> 02:51:58.900
Yes, we can please go ahead.
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I appreciate everybody's comments.
02:52:00.830 --> 02:52:04.850
And I think that there's been enough said to the CPUC
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so far, my comment is directed towards Governor
02:52:08.800 --> 02:52:11.043
Gavin Newsom, and I hope you hear this.
02:52:11.990 --> 02:52:13.370
You aren't a nice buddy.
02:52:13.370 --> 02:52:14.830
The state is already tired of you.
02:52:14.830 --> 02:52:17.870
You barely skated by with this recall election.
02:52:17.870 --> 02:52:22.060
If you allow NEM 3.0 to go through, I promise you.
02:52:22.060 --> 02:52:24.210
You will not be reelected.
02:52:24.210 --> 02:52:26.630
Whether it's we will take to social media.
02:52:26.630 --> 02:52:28.100
We will take to the streets.
02:52:28.100 --> 02:52:31.310
You, your political career will end
02:52:31.310 --> 02:52:32.460
if you allow this to happen.
02:52:32.460 --> 02:52:35.600
And I will do everything in my power to help that happen.
02:52:35.600 --> 02:52:36.993
So do not allow this.
02:52:38.000 --> 02:52:39.493
Thank you.
02:52:39.493 --> 02:52:42.193
Thank you, operator next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Julie Mills.
02:52:45.400 --> 02:52:46.273
You may go ahead.
02:52:49.150 --> 02:52:50.730
Hi, this is Julie Mills.
02:52:50.730 --> 02:52:53.680
I oppose NEM three.
02:52:53.680 --> 02:52:56.390
I put solar and a battery in one and a half years ago
02:52:56.390 --> 02:52:59.510
on my house at a cost of $21,000.
02:52:59.510 --> 02:53:03.640
My electric bill prior to solar averaged about $40 a month.
02:53:03.640 --> 02:53:06.040
So I'll never get back the cost of installation
02:53:06.040 --> 02:53:08.880
and break even without out NEM three,
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we put it on for climate change to come back climate change.
02:53:12.642 --> 02:53:15.690
If NEM three goes through,
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I will pay significantly more for electricity with solar
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than I paid before I had it.
02:53:20.880 --> 02:53:22.280
The utilities say we need NEM three
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because low income people pay more
02:53:25.100 --> 02:53:26.890
to allow wealthy people to have solar.
02:53:26.890 --> 02:53:28.340
This isn't true.
02:53:28.340 --> 02:53:31.530
Home solar installation has saved money for everyone
02:53:31.530 --> 02:53:34.290
by reducing the need for more power plants.
02:53:34.290 --> 02:53:36.710
In addition, low income people are more impacted
02:53:36.710 --> 02:53:38.480
by climate change around the world.
02:53:38.480 --> 02:53:40.870
So, this will help everybody,
02:53:40.870 --> 02:53:42.970
including low income people.
02:53:42.970 --> 02:53:45.300
We need more solar to do everything we can
02:53:45.300 --> 02:53:47.170
to combat climate change.
02:53:47.170 --> 02:53:50.640
This proposal will make so solar prohibitively expensive
02:53:50.640 --> 02:53:54.540
for all, but the billionaire class and dramatically
02:53:54.540 --> 02:53:57.953
reduce new solar installation needs to save our planet.
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(alarm ringing)
Thank you.
02:54:00.340 --> 02:54:03.523
Thank you, operator next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Esperanza Vielma.
02:54:08.960 --> 02:54:09.913
You may go ahead.
02:54:12.537 --> 02:54:13.370
[Esperanza Vielma] Hello.
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Good afternoon.
02:54:14.203 --> 02:54:16.580
My name is Esperanza Vielma and I am
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the Executive Director of the Environmental Justice
02:54:18.740 --> 02:54:22.070
Coalition for Water, and also the co-founder
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of the Statewide C triple E along with Green the Church.
02:54:26.440 --> 02:54:30.350
And I wanna state that the fact is that this CPUC's
02:54:30.350 --> 02:54:33.870
mission is to serve the public and not the IOUs.
02:54:33.870 --> 02:54:38.740
We therefore trust that you as public servants will serve
02:54:38.740 --> 02:54:43.740
the public interest with a revamped equitable NEM policy
02:54:44.170 --> 02:54:47.560
with input from our environmental justice communities,
02:54:47.560 --> 02:54:51.650
our small solar companies, and other interested parties.
02:54:51.650 --> 02:54:55.240
Please keep California a solar leader in sustainable
02:54:55.240 --> 02:54:59.910
green energy while equitably serving the public.
02:54:59.910 --> 02:55:02.460
And please do not be the Commission
02:55:02.460 --> 02:55:05.030
that has killed rooftop solar.
02:55:05.030 --> 02:55:07.830
And again, I wanna thank you for your time
02:55:07.830 --> 02:55:09.573
and commitment to this effort.
02:55:11.530 --> 02:55:12.370
Thank you.
02:55:12.370 --> 02:55:13.863
Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is Jeff Rogers.
02:55:17.290 --> 02:55:18.645
You may go ahead.
02:55:18.645 --> 02:55:20.120
Jeff.
02:55:20.120 --> 02:55:22.340
This is Jeff Rogers.
02:55:22.340 --> 02:55:25.100
I'm gonna comment on NEM three.
02:55:25.100 --> 02:55:27.040
The simple and fundamental question
02:55:27.040 --> 02:55:29.050
is in addition to being required,
02:55:29.050 --> 02:55:31.920
to support the generation of clean and removable
02:55:31.920 --> 02:55:34.950
solar energy as a matter of California government
02:55:34.950 --> 02:55:39.377
public policy, do you as the CPUC regulating California
02:55:39.377 --> 02:55:43.770
public utilities represent the people of California or not?
02:55:43.770 --> 02:55:46.050
As required by law, do you act
02:55:46.050 --> 02:55:47.950
in the people's interests or not?
02:55:47.950 --> 02:55:50.570
Moreover, do you really want to act in the interest
02:55:50.570 --> 02:55:54.670
of the criminal PG&E as a California judge
02:55:54.670 --> 02:55:59.340
recently commented PG&E has pled guilty to 84 manslaughter
02:55:59.340 --> 02:56:02.970
charges for its ignition of the 2018 camp fire
02:56:02.970 --> 02:56:07.670
in Butte county is facing five felony and 28 misdemeanor
02:56:07.670 --> 02:56:11.310
counts arising out of the 2019 Kincade fire,
02:56:11.310 --> 02:56:15.580
in Sonoma county is facing pending involuntary manslaughter
02:56:15.580 --> 02:56:19.760
charges arising out of the 2020 Zog fire in Shasta county
02:56:19.760 --> 02:56:23.462
and is facing a civil suit by five counties,
02:56:23.462 --> 02:56:26.891
arising out of the 2021 Dixie fire.
02:56:26.891 --> 02:56:29.380
(alarm ringing) All this love is on five year
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probation for earlier crimes.
02:56:30.991 --> 02:56:31.824
Thank you.
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Thank you.
02:56:33.086 --> 02:56:33.919
Thank you very much.
02:56:33.919 --> 02:56:35.053
Operator, next caller please.
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Next caller is Ellen Weir.
02:56:40.030 --> 02:56:40.880
You may go ahead.
02:56:41.860 --> 02:56:42.693
Good evening.
02:56:42.693 --> 02:56:43.526
My name is Ellen Weir.
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I'm a homeowner and rooftop solar owner in Sacramento.
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We installed our solar panels at a cost of about $18,000,
02:56:51.450 --> 02:56:54.060
and we were hoping to get that back over the course
02:56:54.060 --> 02:56:56.820
of the 20 year lifespan of the panels.
02:56:56.820 --> 02:56:59.520
We were incentivized to do so by our local utility
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SMUD and by federal tax credits,
02:57:02.280 --> 02:57:03.670
but it's still barely penciled out
02:57:03.670 --> 02:57:05.660
for us to install our panels.
02:57:05.660 --> 02:57:09.120
We cannot afford to install battery storage
02:57:09.120 --> 02:57:11.180
to offset our solar generation,
02:57:11.180 --> 02:57:14.150
and we don't think we should be the ones to pay for it.
02:57:14.150 --> 02:57:16.240
We don't think rates going up across the state
02:57:16.240 --> 02:57:18.560
are necessarily from us as solar users,
02:57:18.560 --> 02:57:20.650
and we urge you to reject this proposal.
02:57:20.650 --> 02:57:21.483
Thank you.
02:57:22.620 --> 02:57:25.063
Thank you, operator, next caller, please.
02:57:26.720 --> 02:57:28.620
Our next caller is Liny Water.
02:57:28.620 --> 02:57:29.470
You may go ahead.
02:57:30.670 --> 02:57:31.503
Hi.
02:57:31.503 --> 02:57:33.620
So I read through the 204 page document,
02:57:33.620 --> 02:57:36.060
and I was noticing there was a lot of inaccuracies,
02:57:36.060 --> 02:57:38.700
including the price of what it would cost
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per kilowat to install.
02:57:40.460 --> 02:57:42.070
I got 20 bids recently,
02:57:42.070 --> 02:57:45.500
and my lowest was $2 and 80c/kwt.
02:57:45.500 --> 02:57:50.220
And that is not what was mention in the document.
02:57:50.220 --> 02:57:53.570
I did sign a solar contract to get solar installed,
02:57:53.570 --> 02:57:56.790
but there's a delay in PG&E in order to get the...
02:57:56.790 --> 02:57:58.560
'cause I need my electrical panel upgraded
02:57:58.560 --> 02:57:59.890
to get that put in,
02:57:59.890 --> 02:58:02.320
and there's a 40 day period of time.
02:58:02.320 --> 02:58:05.600
So I end up having to cancel my solar contract
02:58:05.600 --> 02:58:08.150
because I couldn't get the drop done
02:58:08.150 --> 02:58:10.950
in time by PG&E and there's a three to six month
02:58:12.150 --> 02:58:14.120
backup in some of theirs.
02:58:14.120 --> 02:58:16.870
And then the good thing is you can pull out,
02:58:16.870 --> 02:58:19.020
you can opt out at any em, it sounds like,
02:58:19.020 --> 02:58:21.630
and it sounds like I would have to a purchase a battery
02:58:21.630 --> 02:58:24.920
backup and be off grid in order to even put solar in.
02:58:24.920 --> 02:58:27.480
At this point, there are hybrid inverters
02:58:27.480 --> 02:58:30.970
that are being developed right now in prep for this.
02:58:30.970 --> 02:58:32.963
But I don't think that's the intention,
02:58:34.422 --> 02:58:36.550
but I just wanted to put that in to re-look
02:58:36.550 --> 02:58:38.420
at those numbers 'cause if you look at the numbers
02:58:38.420 --> 02:58:39.772
on PG&E's website for installers--
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(alarm ringing)
Okay.
02:58:42.032 --> 02:58:42.865
Thank you.
02:58:42.865 --> 02:58:43.698
Thank you.
02:58:44.700 --> 02:58:46.313
Operator, next caller please.
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Our next caller is I'm sorry.
02:58:51.420 --> 02:58:53.683
Shaza Shere, you may go ahead.
02:58:55.040 --> 02:58:55.873
Yes. Hi.
02:58:55.873 --> 02:58:59.330
My name is Shaza Shere and I work at mosaic
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where we've empowered thousands of residents to go solar.
02:59:03.150 --> 02:59:06.640
This proposed NEM three would not only break
02:59:06.640 --> 02:59:10.350
the promise of beneficial paybacks to all previous residents
02:59:10.350 --> 02:59:13.880
who thought they are controlling their household costs
02:59:13.880 --> 02:59:16.670
by moving towards renewable and energy,
02:59:16.670 --> 02:59:20.200
but it will also stop solar in its track
02:59:20.200 --> 02:59:22.080
by flashing the economic benefits.
02:59:22.080 --> 02:59:25.200
It will kill any further adoption within our state.
02:59:25.200 --> 02:59:27.600
When I speak to friends who already have solar
02:59:27.600 --> 02:59:29.970
on their roof, I find that they're not aware
02:59:29.970 --> 02:59:31.540
of these proposed changes.
02:59:31.540 --> 02:59:34.380
I can bet once they see how their utility bill
02:59:34.380 --> 02:59:36.380
will be affected by these changes,
02:59:36.380 --> 02:59:39.160
there will be many angry residents in California.
02:59:39.160 --> 02:59:41.080
We aren't even hearing of today.
02:59:41.080 --> 02:59:43.780
We are just the first wave you are hearing
02:59:43.780 --> 02:59:45.560
from so many of us today.
02:59:45.560 --> 02:59:48.720
Not only because NEM three will shutdown our floor
02:59:48.720 --> 02:59:51.770
to the solar industry, putting all our jobs at risk,
02:59:51.770 --> 02:59:54.820
but more ethically to each of us.
02:59:54.820 --> 02:59:57.000
We will have broken our promise of savings
02:59:57.000 --> 02:59:59.430
to our homeowners--
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Take this seriously.
03:00:00.830 --> 03:00:01.763
Thank you.
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Operator, next caller, please.
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Our next caller is Michael Peck.
03:00:08.910 --> 03:00:09.760
You may go ahead.
03:00:15.980 --> 03:00:17.660
Hi, apologize for delay.
03:00:17.660 --> 03:00:20.560
I'm calling in from Los Angeles where my wife and I
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bought a home after my mother-in-law passed away in 2017.
03:00:24.370 --> 03:00:26.510
And it's important to us then and now to make our home
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as environmentally sustainable as possible.
03:00:29.130 --> 03:00:30.410
When we installed solar panels,
03:00:30.410 --> 03:00:33.903
we chose to max out our available roof space with panels,
03:00:35.320 --> 03:00:37.630
even though we didn't need that much power
03:00:37.630 --> 03:00:39.670
today, I feed enough power back to the grid
03:00:39.670 --> 03:00:41.370
to power an additional home,
03:00:41.370 --> 03:00:43.780
but we're not paid for this excess production
03:00:43.780 --> 03:00:46.360
because Los Angeles water and power doesn't allow
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ratepayers to cash out their net metering credits.
03:00:49.650 --> 03:00:51.690
So, essentially what happens is LEDwP
03:00:51.690 --> 03:00:53.930
gets my excess power for free power.
03:00:53.930 --> 03:00:56.940
That's sustainable, well distributed throughout the grid,
03:00:56.940 --> 03:01:00.350
local to rate payers and resilient because we made
03:01:00.350 --> 03:01:02.420
the decision to install more panels than we need.
03:01:02.420 --> 03:01:05.000
And we were aware of that at the time.
03:01:05.000 --> 03:01:07.360
The California Public Utilities Commission would punish
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shoulder generators like me for maxing out my available
03:01:09.940 --> 03:01:13.670
roof space by charging me a fee based on installed capacity,
03:01:13.670 --> 03:01:15.990
which is just insanity for a state looking to promote
03:01:15.990 --> 03:01:17.830
a green energy transition.
03:01:17.830 --> 03:01:20.210
This is yet an another example of how the new net metering
03:01:20.210 --> 03:01:22.086
proposal is fundamentally flawed.
03:01:22.086 --> 03:01:23.890
My strong plan---
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03:01:23.890 --> 03:01:25.890
Thank you for your time.
Thank you.
03:01:25.890 --> 03:01:26.723
Thank you.
03:01:26.723 --> 03:01:28.143
Operator, next caller please.
03:01:29.524 --> 03:01:31.350
Our next caller is Seth Pearson.
03:01:31.350 --> 03:01:32.200
You may go ahead.
03:01:37.200 --> 03:01:38.590
Sorry about that.
03:01:38.590 --> 03:01:40.440
My name is Seth Pearson.
03:01:40.440 --> 03:01:42.490
I live in San Louis Obispo, California.
03:01:42.490 --> 03:01:46.310
I work for a company called Wicks roofing and solar's.
03:01:46.310 --> 03:01:49.150
I've been in the solar industry since 2008
03:01:49.150 --> 03:01:51.580
and I've personally hunt helped hundreds
03:01:51.580 --> 03:01:54.793
if not thousands of people go solar in my career.
03:01:56.654 --> 03:01:59.280
I think I'm speaking on behalf of everybody in the solar
03:01:59.280 --> 03:02:01.390
industry, as well as residents in the California,
03:02:01.390 --> 03:02:05.480
that the mentor proposition would be absolutely horrible
03:02:05.480 --> 03:02:08.820
to everyday homeowners as well as people working
03:02:08.820 --> 03:02:11.520
within the industry such as myself,
03:02:11.520 --> 03:02:15.720
the combination of the fixed rate charge the solar fee
03:02:15.720 --> 03:02:19.180
and the reduction of the export rate drive down
03:02:19.180 --> 03:02:23.030
the return and the payback period goes way up.
03:02:23.030 --> 03:02:25.840
Also a as California being an industry leader
03:02:25.840 --> 03:02:28.390
in solar would be setting a precedent
03:02:28.390 --> 03:02:29.760
for every other state.
03:02:29.760 --> 03:02:30.670
They all watch us.
03:02:30.670 --> 03:02:32.550
Whatever happens here, the subject
03:02:32.550 --> 03:02:34.580
to happen elsewhere throughout the country.
03:02:34.580 --> 03:02:38.620
And I just think it's very shortsighted decision
03:02:38.620 --> 03:02:40.293
to weigh in behalf of the utilities.
03:02:40.293 --> 03:02:42.439
I think we need to think about the job losses
03:02:42.439 --> 03:02:43.272
(alarm ringing)
03:02:43.272 --> 03:02:45.361
and the other things that be impacted as a result.
03:02:45.361 --> 03:02:47.402
Thank you
03:02:47.402 --> 03:02:48.235
Thank you for your time.
03:02:48.235 --> 03:02:49.950
Thank you for your comments.
03:02:49.950 --> 03:02:51.483
Operator, next caller please.
03:02:53.453 --> 03:02:55.360
And our next caller is Jane Pearson.
03:02:55.360 --> 03:02:56.283
You may go ahead.
03:02:57.370 --> 03:02:58.990
Hi, my name is James Pearson.
03:02:58.990 --> 03:03:01.200
I'm retired and I live in Gilroy.
03:03:01.200 --> 03:03:03.220
I got bumped out the first time
03:03:03.220 --> 03:03:05.720
'cause of my fungul finger on the phone,
03:03:05.720 --> 03:03:09.130
but I've had rooftop solar for 10 years.
03:03:09.130 --> 03:03:11.030
It reduced my electric bill.
03:03:11.030 --> 03:03:12.520
So I'd say at this point,
03:03:12.520 --> 03:03:14.530
even with the continual rate increases,
03:03:14.530 --> 03:03:18.520
my initial investment in solar should soon break even.
03:03:18.520 --> 03:03:20.800
That's only part of the reason I got solar.
03:03:20.800 --> 03:03:22.260
Climate change is real.
03:03:22.260 --> 03:03:23.727
The destruction of our wild spaces
03:03:23.727 --> 03:03:25.830
and the natural world is real
03:03:25.830 --> 03:03:27.990
action and not words is needed.
03:03:27.990 --> 03:03:30.530
This proposal by the Commission is a step back.
03:03:30.530 --> 03:03:34.220
Not a step forward, no solar tax, none,
03:03:34.220 --> 03:03:35.520
any changes in net meetings
03:03:35.520 --> 03:03:36.610
should be to make it more
03:03:36.610 --> 03:03:38.290
affordable not less.
03:03:38.290 --> 03:03:42.170
Keep the promise for 20 years of no changes to those rates.
03:03:42.170 --> 03:03:45.380
We've got millions of rooftops that could utilize solar.
03:03:45.380 --> 03:03:47.330
There's no need to increase our footprint
03:03:47.330 --> 03:03:49.830
on the desert wild spaces or to take up
03:03:49.830 --> 03:03:52.130
thousands more acres with long distance side
03:03:52.130 --> 03:03:55.460
transmission lines and electric car needs
03:03:55.460 --> 03:03:58.020
a solar roof and a solar home.
03:03:58.020 --> 03:03:58.853
Thank you.
03:03:58.853 --> 03:04:01.490
And thank you for all your time and patience today.
03:04:01.490 --> 03:04:02.787
This has been a long day.
03:04:04.910 --> 03:04:06.100
Thank you very much.
03:04:06.100 --> 03:04:07.673
Operator, next caller please.
03:04:09.990 --> 03:04:11.420
We have no more callers on the public
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telephone line at the time.
03:04:14.890 --> 03:04:15.723
Thank you.
03:04:15.723 --> 03:04:17.710
Can we take a minute to check, to make sure
03:04:18.810 --> 03:04:20.670
to see if there's anyone else on the telephone
03:04:20.670 --> 03:04:22.320
who would like to make a comment?
03:04:28.060 --> 03:04:28.893
Yes.
03:04:28.893 --> 03:04:30.577
To make a comment that would be star one.
03:04:59.520 --> 03:05:01.700
My next caller is Miss Avila.
03:05:01.700 --> 03:05:02.550
You may go ahead.
03:05:03.920 --> 03:05:04.753
Hi.
03:05:04.753 --> 03:05:06.100
My name is Rosario Avila.
03:05:06.100 --> 03:05:07.403
I live in Southern California
03:05:07.403 --> 03:05:09.350
and I just have two quotes
03:05:09.350 --> 03:05:11.217
I wanted to say today,
03:05:11.217 --> 03:05:13.160
but this first quote is from somebody
03:05:13.160 --> 03:05:17.550
in Canada who also faces the same issue in Canada.
03:05:17.550 --> 03:05:20.190
He says paying people to generate at equal
03:05:20.190 --> 03:05:22.450
or higher rates than utility.
03:05:22.450 --> 03:05:24.080
And I do get it.
03:05:24.080 --> 03:05:26.330
I paid and have solar rooftops,
03:05:26.330 --> 03:05:28.720
literally subsidizes the wealthier members
03:05:28.720 --> 03:05:31.910
of our society to the detriment of the poor.
03:05:31.910 --> 03:05:33.880
The left is upside down on this issue
03:05:33.880 --> 03:05:35.340
and needs to get it straight.
03:05:35.340 --> 03:05:38.620
These Robert Barons are stealing from the commons.
03:05:38.620 --> 03:05:41.680
The commons is reliable grid electricity.
03:05:41.680 --> 03:05:43.330
Another one is from the book,
03:05:43.330 --> 03:05:46.640
shorting the grid by Meredith Angwin
03:05:46.640 --> 03:05:48.090
the catch in general,
03:05:48.090 --> 03:05:50.320
the utility must pay for the retail price
03:05:50.320 --> 03:05:52.870
for the net meter power it purchases.
03:05:52.870 --> 03:05:54.940
And yet if net metering were allowed
03:05:54.940 --> 03:05:56.890
for everyone without a cap,
03:05:56.890 --> 03:05:59.670
we would have a tragedy of the commons.
03:05:59.670 --> 03:06:02.210
Prices would rise for everyone.
03:06:02.210 --> 03:06:05.360
And I just wanna say to the CPUC, thank you.
03:06:05.360 --> 03:06:07.540
This is a very difficult issue,
03:06:07.540 --> 03:06:08.830
but at the end of the day,
03:06:08.830 --> 03:06:11.001
we are talking about the commons,
03:06:11.001 --> 03:06:11.834
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which we all share.
03:06:12.680 --> 03:06:15.070
Thank you very much for your time.
03:06:15.070 --> 03:06:15.903
Thank you.
03:06:16.960 --> 03:06:18.727
Operator, next caller please.
03:06:19.990 --> 03:06:21.380
And we have no additional callers
03:06:21.380 --> 03:06:24.640
on the public comment telephone line at this time.
03:06:24.640 --> 03:06:25.473
All right.
03:06:25.473 --> 03:06:26.700
Well, I know folks waited a long time,
03:06:26.700 --> 03:06:28.100
so I'm gonna check one more time
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press star one if you are on the line
03:06:30.540 --> 03:06:32.190
and would like to make a comment.
03:06:41.320 --> 03:06:42.970
Operator, do we have anyone else?
03:06:44.220 --> 03:06:46.470
We have no additional callers at this time.
03:06:47.420 --> 03:06:49.680
Okay. With no more callers on the line.
03:06:49.680 --> 03:06:52.460
The public comment period is now closed.
03:06:52.460 --> 03:06:54.760
I did wanna take a moment to acknowledge
03:06:54.760 --> 03:06:57.830
members of the public who are very patient today.
03:06:57.830 --> 03:07:00.080
Waited on the line for many people,
03:07:00.080 --> 03:07:02.290
waited for more than seven hours.
03:07:02.290 --> 03:07:04.410
Thank you for your patience.
03:07:04.410 --> 03:07:06.790
We really appreciate your participation
03:07:06.790 --> 03:07:08.723
in the Commission's public process.
03:07:10.370 --> 03:07:13.433
With that, I will now turn to the public agenda.
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And we'll start with the changes to today's agenda.
03:07:19.860 --> 03:07:24.090
Item number two, three, and 15
03:07:24.090 --> 03:07:27.713
will be held to February 10th, 2022.
03:07:28.570 --> 03:07:32.833
Item number 19 will be taken up with the Consent Agenda.
03:07:33.960 --> 03:07:36.710
We will now take up the consent item.
03:07:36.710 --> 03:07:37.663
Is there a motion?
03:07:39.340 --> 03:07:40.173
So moved.
03:07:41.332 --> 03:07:43.520
Commissioner Rechtschaffen has made a motion.
03:07:43.520 --> 03:07:44.553
Do we have a second.
03:07:45.620 --> 03:07:47.007
Second.
03:07:47.007 --> 03:07:48.863
Second by Commissioner Houck.
03:07:50.490 --> 03:07:51.420
Agenda clerk.
03:07:51.420 --> 03:07:53.053
Could you please call the role.
03:07:54.290 --> 03:07:55.340
Commissioner Houck?
03:07:56.280 --> 03:07:57.113
Yes.
03:07:58.040 --> 03:07:59.190
Commissioner Shiroma?
03:08:00.260 --> 03:08:01.093
Aye.
03:08:02.100 --> 03:08:03.773
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
03:08:03.773 --> 03:08:04.606
Yes.
Yes.
03:08:05.980 --> 03:08:07.880
President Reynolds?
03:08:07.880 --> 03:08:08.913
[President Reynolds] Yes.
03:08:10.130 --> 03:08:14.560
The, Consent Agenda items have passed unanimously.
03:08:14.560 --> 03:08:16.393
We'll now take up the regular items,
03:08:19.550 --> 03:08:21.830
starting with item number 16,
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order extending line for reviewing PG&E's request
03:08:25.410 --> 03:08:27.060
to recover gas transmission
03:08:27.060 --> 03:08:29.133
and storage capital expenditures.
03:08:30.030 --> 03:08:31.793
I will present the first item.
03:08:32.760 --> 03:08:35.230
This order extending statutory deadline
03:08:35.230 --> 03:08:37.100
is for the proceeding considering
03:08:37.100 --> 03:08:39.730
PG&E request to recover gas transmission
03:08:39.730 --> 03:08:41.810
and storage capital expenditures
03:08:41.810 --> 03:08:45.080
that we're audited by our safety and enforcement division.
03:08:45.080 --> 03:08:48.987
Pursuant to decision 16-06-056.
03:08:51.380 --> 03:08:53.830
This order would extend the statutory deadline
03:08:53.830 --> 03:08:57.040
of this proceeding to July 30th, 2022.
03:08:57.040 --> 03:08:58.890
This extension will allow time
03:08:58.890 --> 03:09:00.360
for the Administrative Law Judge
03:09:00.360 --> 03:09:01.860
and the new assigned Commissioner
03:09:01.860 --> 03:09:04.010
currently myself to consider
03:09:04.010 --> 03:09:05.870
the proposed settlement that was submitted
03:09:05.870 --> 03:09:08.800
as well as the full extent of the record.
03:09:08.800 --> 03:09:10.223
I request your support.
03:09:11.830 --> 03:09:14.230
Go to questions from the Commission
03:09:17.460 --> 03:09:19.270
Hearing none, I'll ask whether
03:09:19.270 --> 03:09:21.323
there is a motion on item 16.
03:09:24.050 --> 03:09:27.583
I'll make move item 16.
03:09:28.890 --> 03:09:30.870
Motion by Commissioner Shiroma.
03:09:30.870 --> 03:09:31.870
Do we have a second?
03:09:33.642 --> 03:09:34.475
Second.
03:09:35.720 --> 03:09:37.740
Second from Commissioner Rechtschaffen
03:09:37.740 --> 03:09:40.740
with a motion and a second for item 16,
03:09:40.740 --> 03:09:42.683
agenda clerk, please call the roll.
03:09:44.700 --> 03:09:46.520
Commissioner Houck?
03:09:46.520 --> 03:09:48.130
Yes.
03:09:48.130 --> 03:09:49.280
Commissioner Shiroma?
03:09:50.202 --> 03:09:51.035
Aye.
03:09:52.140 --> 03:09:53.870
Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
03:09:53.870 --> 03:09:54.703
Yes.
03:09:56.280 --> 03:09:57.330
President Reynolds?
03:09:58.280 --> 03:09:59.113
Yes.
03:10:02.110 --> 03:10:03.963
The motion passes four zero.
03:10:05.620 --> 03:10:10.620
The next item on the regular agenda is item number 17,
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order extending statutory deadline,
03:10:13.420 --> 03:10:16.650
Fred Shahadi individually and as a trusty
03:10:16.650 --> 03:10:19.050
for the Fred Shahadi revocable living trust
03:10:19.050 --> 03:10:20.773
versus San Jose water company.
03:10:21.690 --> 03:10:23.990
Commissioner Houck, would you like to present?
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Thank you, president Reynolds,
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item 18 is a complaint case CC1904005
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Mr. Fred Shahadi versus San Jose water company.
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And on March 8th, 2021,
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the case was reassigned to my office
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on August 5th, 2021 the presiding officer's
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proposed decision or pod was served
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on the parties and the complainant
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filed an appeal of the pod
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on September 7th, 2021 on September 22nd, 2021
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San Jose water company filed its response.
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The complainant's appeal will be addressed
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in the very near future and this request,
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statutory deadline to March 31st, 2022
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to resolve the matter.
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And I ask for your support on this extension.
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Thank you.
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Do we have any comments or questions
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from Commissioners on item 17?
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Hearing none, I'll ask for motion.
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I'll move.
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Second.
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Motion from Commissioner Shiroma
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second from Commissioner Rechtschaffen
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agenda clerk, please call the role.
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Commissioner Houck?
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Yes.
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Commissioner shiroma?
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Aye.
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Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
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Yes.
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President Reynolds?
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Yes.
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The motion passes four zero
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turning next to regular agenda
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item number 18 order extending statutory deadline,
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utility telecom group, LLC versus bandwidth.com.
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CECLECLEC, Commissioner Rechtschaffen,
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Would you like to present?
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Thank you, president Reynolds, excuse me.
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Item 18 concerns a dispute.
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As you mentioned, between utility telecom group
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and bandwidth.com and it regards the porting of customers.
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Telephone numbers term porting
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refers to the process of transferring a phone number
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from one communications company to another
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when a customer changes providers.
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Utility telecom group is in mediation
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in a federal case that concerns
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the numbers that are at issue in this complaint,
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the parties is requested a continuance
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for the proceeding to allow time
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for the resolution of that federal litigation.
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The Administrative Law Judge granted a continuance
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and is receiving status updates from the parties.
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This order would extend the proceeding deadline
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to October 4th, 2022, to allow the parties
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the time needed for the mediation
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to continue and be resolved.
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I asked for your support.
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Thank you Commissioner Rechtschaffen,
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any comments or questions from Commissioners.
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Being none, is there a motion on item 18?
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I move.
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Motion by Commissioner Houck
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seconded by Commissioner Shiroma.
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We have a motion and a second on item 18
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agenda clerk, please call the role.
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Commissioner Houck?
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Yes.
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Commissioner Shiroma?
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Aye.
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Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
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Yes.
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President Reynolds?
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Yes.
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The motion passes four zero.
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Turning now to management reports,
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item 20 management report and discussion
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on recent consumer protection and safety activities.
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We are postponing the presentation
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scheduled for today to a later date.
03:14:11.700 --> 03:14:14.260
And we have no report on item 21
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management report and discussion
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on administrative activities.
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The next item on the agenda is the Commissioner reports.
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Who would like to go first?
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Commissioner Shiroma.
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Thank you.
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Yes, thank you.
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I know the hours late.
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I'll be brief, President Reynold.
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You announced the February black history month.
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And so February 1st is June new year
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and I wanted to share that the CPUC's
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African American coalition for unemployment and equity
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is launching the black history month theme
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of the past present and future representation
03:15:00.780 --> 03:15:03.210
I could see in diversity matters
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with a noontime discussion on February 1st,
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featuring Paul Henderson,
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director of the San Francisco
03:15:10.753 --> 03:15:13.470
department of police accountability.
03:15:13.470 --> 03:15:14.970
You'll be giving opening remarks
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and I'm pleased to be in seeing that kickoff event.
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The African American coalition
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is putting together a full month of activities
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events to celebrate the month and staff
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should keep an eye out for further announcements by email.
03:15:33.790 --> 03:15:36.200
I want to thank the planning committee members.
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Savan Martin, Bridget ON, Nicole Proper,
03:15:40.390 --> 03:15:42.840
Andrew Johnson, Lynn Moley,
03:15:42.840 --> 03:15:46.640
Ramon MoMA, Jamira Godley and Luan Testfy
03:15:47.530 --> 03:15:50.730
employees interested in joining AAC
03:15:50.730 --> 03:15:54.730
can email Ramon Moma and speaking
03:15:54.730 --> 03:15:59.730
of lunar new year, there is a new resource group
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called Hawaiian Asian Pacific Islander
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employee resource group or HAPI.
03:16:06.730 --> 03:16:10.380
And anyone interested in new more about HAPI
03:16:10.380 --> 03:16:12.980
can email assistant chief administrative law,
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judge passing McDonald,
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more information you need to be celebrating
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on February 1st as well.
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And then finally on next week,
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Thursday on February 3rd,
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I have a pleasure of speaking
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at the next pucks Toastmasters.
03:16:30.375 --> 03:16:35.375
Virtual open health pucks is a CPUC Toastmaster chapter,
03:16:37.320 --> 03:16:40.660
which has been in existence since 1972
03:16:40.660 --> 03:16:43.310
and has achieved the president's
03:16:43.310 --> 03:16:46.620
distinguished status for the last three years
03:16:46.620 --> 03:16:48.133
at the virtual open health.
03:16:48.133 --> 03:16:50.000
I share health public speaking
03:16:50.000 --> 03:16:52.440
has helped advance my career
03:16:52.440 --> 03:16:56.300
and I will share how I prepare for a public speech.
03:16:56.300 --> 03:16:59.030
And I'll take questions from attendees,
03:16:59.030 --> 03:17:01.050
anyone interested in improving
03:17:01.050 --> 03:17:02.180
their public speaking skills
03:17:02.180 --> 03:17:05.010
should check out the pucks and meanwhile,
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we can register for the February 3rd event @houck.org.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Commissioner Shiroma.
03:17:16.440 --> 03:17:17.660
Commissioner Houck, Would you like
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to make a Commissioner report?
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I have no report today.
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Thank you, president Reynolds.
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Thank you, Commissioner Rechtschaffen?
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I have no report.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I do have a brief report.
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I will keep it brief.
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Given the late hour, just two items to report on.
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I wanted to report that last week I attended
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the monthly middle mile advisory committee meeting.
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The committee plays an important oversight role as a state
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builds out the historic statewide open access middle mile
03:17:52.850 --> 03:17:57.310
broadband network created by SB156.
03:17:57.310 --> 03:17:58.930
At the meeting the committee received
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updates on the development of the initial
03:18:01.010 --> 03:18:04.040
middle mile projects announced in November.
03:18:04.040 --> 03:18:06.160
Caltrans reported that the state network
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can potentially leverage 700 miles
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of existing highway projects
03:18:10.730 --> 03:18:13.166
and our own communications director
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Rob Osborn presented on the impressive mapping
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that has been accomplished by our staff
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since the legislation was enacted in July.
03:18:25.140 --> 03:18:27.650
I also wanted to note that the resource
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adequacy reform workshops have concluded.
03:18:30.930 --> 03:18:33.710
There were a total of nine workshops that were held
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over the last five months under the leadership
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of former President Batjer together
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with the energy division team whose members
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have worked thoughtfully tirelessly on this effort,
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the workshop co-leads are now working
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to develop the workshop report
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that will be filed on February 28th.
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That concludes my report
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and that concludes the Commissioner report.
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The public meeting is now adjourned
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and the Commission will go into closed session.